Re: z/VM 3.1 FTP

2007-03-09 Thread Peter . Webb
Hi Neil,

 

There is no configuration file setting that I know of. Instead, use the
PASSIVE FTP subcommand at the start of your FTP session to set passive
mode on.

 

Peter

 

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Hello,

We are running z/VM 3.1.
With the TCP/IP that ships with the above is it possible to have the
ftpserver operate in passive mode. I am looking in SRVRFTP  CONFIG   
and I do not see anything referring to passive mode. Is there another
config file somewhere ?

Thank you in advance.

 

Neil



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Re: 4.4 Gigabit (fibre) OSA

2007-03-09 Thread Eric Schadow
Lee

How is the OSA defined OSE or OSD.?

Try a Q ccuu ID and a Q CCUU and post the details.

eric




At 08:54 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote:
Hi all,

I have a 4.4 system that's moving to a new z9 and when they try to start 
the TCP/IP connection through the new OSA gigabit (fiber, not copper), 
they get:

DTCOSD055E The amount of input and or output queues supported by this 
adapter is insufficient for TCP/IP

And then the link shuts down.  The message says to reconfigure the OSA 
card.  The card hasn't been loaded with a static OAT or anything...

I've searched here, IBMLink (APARs or PSP buckets, both hardware and 
software) and several other places, but don't see anything.

(Why 4.4 -- Mother says only change one thing at a time.  5.2 is next)

Thanks for any pointers,
Lee

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Re: Multiple VM SMTP servers

2007-03-09 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
We have 5 on one stack and 3 on another stack but I know not why.

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Hi,

Is anyone running multiple VM SMTP servers to address problems with mail
agents getting timeouts because VM SMTP is busy?

I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same
port. Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another
for outgoing?

Thanks.


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Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-09 Thread RPN01
My assumption was that he just wanted to get out of the currently running
program, rather than returning to the calling routine, in which case,
exiting, possibly with a non-zero return code might fill the bill. Now, if
the subroutine were called by other means, then an exit might still get
you back into the calling program, in which case, it wouldn't be a strong
enough tool.

Without writing additional assembler code, wouldn't it be possible to do a
DIAG that would fail miserably enough to end all the running programs? Of
course, a simple CP SYSTEM RESET would also work well, though not leaving
the user where (s)he might expect to be.


On 3/8/07 7:38 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday, 03/08/2007 at 11:25 CST, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 That should do it... :)
 
 RPN01 wrote:
 How ?bout just a plain old ?exit??
 
 Perhaps you guys are really just questioning the purpose of having REXX
 generate a virtual HX?
 
 'exit' isn't even close to HX.  HX will potentially stop ALL running
 programs; 'exit' will just end the currently running REXX exec.  Think
 about an assembler program that calls myprog1 that calls myprog2.  What if
 the assembler program has an ABNEXIT active for 0x222?
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
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Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-09 Thread David Kreuter
Well you could I suppose one could write a CMS MODULE that does a B 14 and call 
it - that will certainly kill the running programs, but all hell would break 
loose - 
Not that I'm recommending this.
David
 



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My assumption was that he just wanted to get out of the currently running
program, rather than returning to the calling routine, in which case,
exiting, possibly with a non-zero return code might fill the bill. Now, if
the subroutine were called by other means, then an exit might still get
you back into the calling program, in which case, it wouldn't be a strong
enough tool.

Without writing additional assembler code, wouldn't it be possible to do a
DIAG that would fail miserably enough to end all the running programs? Of
course, a simple CP SYSTEM RESET would also work well, though not leaving
the user where (s)he might expect to be.


On 3/8/07 7:38 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday, 03/08/2007 at 11:25 CST, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 That should do it... :)

 RPN01 wrote:
 How ?bout just a plain old ?exit??

 Perhaps you guys are really just questioning the purpose of having REXX
 generate a virtual HX?

 'exit' isn't even close to HX.  HX will potentially stop ALL running
 programs; 'exit' will just end the currently running REXX exec.  Think
 about an assembler program that calls myprog1 that calls myprog2.  What if
 the assembler program has an ABNEXIT active for 0x222?

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
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OSA question

2007-03-09 Thread Westlund, Mats (Mainframe servers)
Why is the home address for the ESC1 link placed in the
OSA for device DEVGEF11 that is connected to another network


DEVICE CIP1   CLAW 7F00 LTCPIP TN19C10 NONE 20 20 4096 4096
LINK ESC1 IP 0 CIP1
DEVICE  DEVGEF11  OSD 3DB0  NONROUTER  AUTORESTART 
LINKLNKERI01  QDIOETHERNET DEVGEF11

HOME
  130.100.135.242  ESC1 
  153.88.236.29   LNKERI01 

from tcpip console
15:39:40 DTCOSD246I OSD device DEVGEF11: Assigned IPv4 address
153.88.236.29
15:39:45 DTCOSD246I OSD device DEVGEF11: Assigned IPv4 address
130.100.135.242

Regards
Mats Westlund
HP Sverige AB


Jeff Beck is out of the office.

2007-03-09 Thread Jeff Beck

I will be out of the office starting  03/09/2007 and will not return until
03/12/2007.

I will be out of the office Friday 3/9 and will return Monday 3/12. I will
respond to your note after 3/12. Thank you.

DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Brian Ferguson
I've got a site that is trying to use their VM system (4.4 on an IFL) to 

stage MVS volumes for disaster recovery.

They dump the MVS system off using DFDSS, and restore them onto the 
disaster system using standalone DFDSS under VM

This way they don't need to actually run and licence MVS on the recovery 

CPU, since MVS only runs during the actual tests. The staging allows them
 
to drop the recovery time considerably. 

And the VM system is running on the IFL on the box.

They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS.

And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the 
volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image.

The DFDSS being used is from a z/OS 1.7 system, they genned it onto a DAS
D 
volume and moved it to the new VM system and IPL the DASD to bring DFDSS 

up to do the restore.

The old CPU was a z900 and this worked just fine.

Since the move to a z9-BC however, they get:

HCPMCV1459E The
virtual machine is placed in check-stop state due to a system
   
malfunction with CPU 00. 
 
  

When they attempt to IPL the Standalone DFDSS code.

Has the IBM IFL code on the z9 series changed?

Anybody have any other suggestions?

Brian


Re: TIMEZONE

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Walter
Nothing's wrong your suggestion.  It's better and I'll change my code.

Background:
IIRC it's just that I had it written to go through the spring of 2042 (the 
fall of 2042 is after the TOD clock wraps).  Then I discovered that 
CPSYNTAX accepts dates in 2042, but CP balks at IPL for any dates after 
2041.  [CPSYNTAX only checks syntax, there can still be other problems in 
SYSTEM CONFIG that only an IPL will discover.]   So I added the Leave 
while reporting it to IBM, figuring that getting an APAR/PTF would be easy 
for this minor problem; then I could remove the Leave.  But IBM asked 
(reasonably) if they could fix it in some future release with an internal 
update rather than go the APAR/PTF route.  Given that we have a plenty of 
time before 2042 and IBM has better things to work on that something 35 
years from now, I agreed.   I never looked at that part of the code again.

Mike (Future candidate for U.S. Grand Poo-Bah, and still missing Val 
Breault's posts on VMSHARE) Walter  
Hewitt Associates 
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   Do ix=2007 to 2042/* What years do we want to cover?  */
   If ix=2042 then Leave  /* Old TOD clock wrapped in August 2042 */

Is this the Poohbah coding style?
What is wrong with this? 
   Do ix=2007 to 2041/* don't make me leave you at 2042 */

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Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Eric Schadow
Brian

I am pretty sure that IFL's can only run z/VM and Linux.




HCPMCV1459E The
virtual machine is placed in check-stop state due to a system=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
malfunction with CPU 00.=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20

When they attempt to IPL the Standalone DFDSS code.

Has the IBM IFL code on the z9 series changed?

Anybody have any other suggestions?

Brian

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Re: TIMEZONE

2007-03-09 Thread Jeff Henry

On 3/9/07, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


... and IBM has better things to work on than something 35 years from now,
...



That's what everybody was saying back in  1965 about the y2k problem.  :-)


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Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Pace

Correct.  An IFL will not run z/OS, or z/VSE  code.

On 3/9/07, Eric Schadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Brian

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Re: 4.4 Gigabit (fibre) OSA

2007-03-09 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Lee,

I am running a Gigabit with the card defined as QDIO on a z890
running zVM 4.3 (yes 5.2 is waiting here too).

The card came defined as QDIO.

But I did apply lots of PTF's to ensure that the z890 and the
QDIO stuff would run.

Take a look here

http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/aip.html 

Ed Martin 
Aultman Health Foundation
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 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Behalf Of Lee Stewart
 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:54 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: 4.4  Gigabit (fibre) OSA
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a 4.4 system that's moving to a new z9 and when they try to
start
 the TCP/IP connection through the new OSA gigabit (fiber, not copper),
 they get:
 
 DTCOSD055E The amount of input and or output queues supported by this
 adapter is insufficient for TCP/IP
 
 And then the link shuts down.  The message says to reconfigure the OSA
 card.  The card hasn't been loaded with a static OAT or anything...
 
 I've searched here, IBMLink (APARs or PSP buckets, both hardware and
 software) and several other places, but don't see anything.
 
 (Why 4.4 -- Mother says only change one thing at a time.  5.2 is next)
 
 Thanks for any pointers,
 Lee
 
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Re: TIMEZONE

2007-03-09 Thread Nick Laflamme

Jeff Henry wrote:
On 3/9/07, *Mike Walter* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


... and IBM has better things to work on than something 35 years
from now, ...


That's what everybody was saying back in  1965 about the y2k problem.  :-)



And because they said that, them mainframe thingies caught on! There was 
a reason they were so tight with those extra bytes for the 19  way 
back then! It might have had consequence, but I'm not sure it was the 
wrong choice _at the time_.


EXECSTAT priority

2007-03-09 Thread Phil Smith III
I'm wondering what priority means in HELP EXECSTAT:

With the RESident Option:

Code   Meaning

0  Exec exists in storage. Register 1 contains pointer to the fileblock.

4  Exec exists in storage and there is another one on dasd that has a
   higher priority. Register 1 contains a pointer to the fileblock.

I see no description of priority there, nor in HELP for EXECMAP or
EXECLOAD.  I hoped it meant the copy on disk is newer but no.

Ideas?
-- 
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(703) 568-6662 (cell)


Re: EXECSTAT priority

2007-03-09 Thread Don Russell

Well, here's my idea... (no proof though)

To me higher priority would mean it is the one that runs so even 
if there is a copy in storage, it won't be run, instead favoring the 
higher priority copy on DASD.


I don't know where/how the priority gets set though... :-( (Perhaps an 
undocumented feature of EXECLOAD?)


Don Russell




Phil Smith III wrote:

I'm wondering what priority means in HELP EXECSTAT:

With the RESident Option:

Code   Meaning

0  Exec exists in storage. Register 1 contains pointer to the fileblock.

4  Exec exists in storage and there is another one on dasd that has a
   higher priority. Register 1 contains a pointer to the fileblock.

I see no description of priority there, nor in HELP for EXECMAP or
EXECLOAD.  I hoped it meant the copy on disk is newer but no.

Ideas?
  


Re: TIMEZONE

2007-03-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Back in the '70s I was part of a group that spec'ed out a replacement mainframe.
 
$1 million dollars for each MB of ram.  That was when a million was a lot of 
money.
Programmers cost about $14,000 a year.
 
Got two bits unused in your data structure?  Make them flag bits.
And, of course, the high order byte of every 24 bit address was subject to 
being used.
 
Mainframer's have been concerned about memory ever since.  Even now, with 
$7,000 / GB of memory (list price) on a z9 BC, (in units of 8 GB).  Still too 
expensive to waste like we do with PC memory.
 
Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 Nick Laflamme [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/9/2007 10:21 AM 
Jeff Henry wrote:
 On 3/9/07, *Mike Walter* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... and IBM has better things to work on than something 35 years
 from now, ...


 That's what everybody was saying back in  1965 about the y2k problem.  :-)


And because they said that, them mainframe thingies caught on! There was 
a reason they were so tight with those extra bytes for the 19  way 
back then! It might have had consequence, but I'm not sure it was the 
wrong choice _at the time_.


Re: EXECSTAT priority

2007-03-09 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 08:46:56AM -0800,Don Russell Wrote:

} Well, here's my idea... (no proof though)
} 
} To me higher priority would mean it is the one that runs so even 
} if there is a copy in storage, it won't be run, instead favoring the 
} higher priority copy on DASD.
} 
} I don't know where/how the priority gets set though... :-( (Perhaps an 
} undocumented feature of EXECLOAD?)

Just a guess, but perhaps the disk copy has been updated (with xedit or
otherwise) since it was loaded into storage.

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Re: EXECSTAT priority

2007-03-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I remember there being a thread on this or a related topic, altho I 
doubt if the subject would match, back in about 1998 on VMESA-L.

Jim

Rich Greenberg wrote:

On: Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 08:46:56AM -0800,Don Russell Wrote:

} Well, here's my idea... (no proof though)
} 
} To me higher priority would mean it is the one that runs so even 
} if there is a copy in storage, it won't be run, instead favoring the 
} higher priority copy on DASD.
} 
} I don't know where/how the priority gets set though... :-( (Perhaps an 
} undocumented feature of EXECLOAD?)


Just a guess, but perhaps the disk copy has been updated (with xedit or
otherwise) since it was loaded into storage.

  



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When applying a Service Corrective

2007-03-09 Thread Sikich, Frank J.
Has anyone come across when issuing the put2prod that the system netid
file on 190 disk is overwritten.  I have had to recover this file twice
now when putting on a PTF.  Is this file being copied from somewhere
else that I don't know about.  
 
Thanks
Frank J. Sikich Jr.
EPS - MVS Support,  but now working on z/VM
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Re: EXECSTAT priority

2007-03-09 Thread Jim Vincent
It has to do with the CMS SET INSTSEG setting.   If the critter in question
lives on a disk higher in the file mode of the INSTSEG setting, then that
copy is going to get the priority.

For instance ours is normal set to file mode L.  I set it to A and copied
FILELIST EXEC from the 190 to my A disk.  Execstat shows it will still
execute from memory.  Set INSTSEG to L and execstat now says it will run
from disk.

q instseg
INSTSEG  = ON  L
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:07:58
set instseg on A
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:08:09
execstat filelist exec
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:08:15
xcopy filelist exec s = = a
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:08:20
execstat filelist exec
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:08:21
set instseg on l
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:08:25
execstat filelist exec
Ready(4); T=0.01/0.01 12:08:27

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The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 03/09/2007
11:35:48 AM:

 IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

 I'm wondering what priority means in HELP EXECSTAT:

 With the RESident Option:

 Code   Meaning

 0  Exec exists in storage. Register 1 contains pointer to the
fileblock.

 4  Exec exists in storage and there is another one on dasd that has a
higher priority. Register 1 contains a pointer to the fileblock.

 I see no description of priority there, nor in HELP for EXECMAP or
 EXECLOAD.  I hoped it meant the copy on disk is newer but no.

 Ideas?
 --
 ...phsiii

 Phil Smith III
 Velocity Software
 www.velocitysoftware.com
 (703) 476-4511 (home office)
 (703) 568-6662 (cell)


Re: When applying a Service Corrective

2007-03-09 Thread Kim Goldenberg

Sikich, Frank J. wrote:
Has anyone come across when issuing the put2prod that the system netid 
file on 190 disk is overwritten.  I have had to recover this file 
twice now when putting on a PTF.  Is this file being copied from 
somewhere else that I don't know about. 
Yes - the 490 disk, which is the maintenance disk for the 190, and is 
what put2prod uses to update the 190.


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Re: When applying a Service Corrective

2007-03-09 Thread Michael Donovan
Frank,

Check the copy of SYSTEM NETID on the MAINT 490 minidisk.   PUT2PROD will
first rebuild the CMS nucleus on the 490 disk and then copy the contents of
MAINT
490 to MAINT 190.  If the SYSTEM NETID file on 490 is different than your
190 copy,
this could explain why you have to keep recovering the 190 version.

Cheers!
 Mike





   
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Re: EXECSTAT priority

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 11:35 EST, Phil Smith III 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering what priority means in HELP EXECSTAT:
 
 With the RESident Option:
 
 Code   Meaning
 
 0  Exec exists in storage. Register 1 contains pointer to the 
fileblock.
 
 4  Exec exists in storage and there is another one on dasd that has 
a
 higher priority. Register 1 contains a pointer to the fileblock.
 
 I see no description of priority there, nor in HELP for EXECMAP or
 EXECLOAD.  I hoped it meant the copy on disk is newer but no.

It means that the exec was found in a DCSS (e.g. INSTSEG), but there is a 
copy on disk that has a filemode lower in the search order than the 
filemode associated with the DCSS.  It's just a warning that the in-memory 
copy will not be the one that runs, but here's the fileblock anyway since 
that's what you asked for.

Please submit an RCF if you'd like to see the text changed.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: OSA question

2007-03-09 Thread Miguel Delapaz
Without getting into too much detail (mostly because I can't remember the 
history), the z/VM TCP/IP stack sends ALL of the IP addresses in its HOME 
list down to any OSA that it is attached to.  Changes have been made to 
the OSA driver in z/VM 5.3.0 such that this no longer occurs.

Regards,
Miguel Delapaz
z/VM TCP/IP Development 


The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 
03/09/2007 02:33:33 AM:

 Why is the home address for the ESC1 link placed in the 
 OSA for device DEVGEF11 that is connected to another network 


Re: Multiple VM SMTP servers

2007-03-09 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:02:16 -0500 Aria Bamdad said:
That helps thanks.  I have 2 more questions:

1-If I move the outgoing servers to a different port, I also need to tell
all my clients to send mail on that port.  That's kind of a pain.  Would
it make sense to just add servers to port 25 and let them all send/receive?

Well, now you're changing the problem description, so yes, the answers change.

If you want this SMTP server to accept email from a non-VM based client,
then yes you either need to run it on port 25, or have the client
send it on that alternate port if it is capable.  It is no longer only
an outgoing server, but is an incoming server. (and if they end up forwarding
off VM, it is both incoming and outgoing)


2-The manual says that MaxMailBytes is the maximum number of bytes to accept
on a TCP connection.  Wouldn't setting this to 1 also restrict local
clients from sending mail!!  There is no mention of incoming or outgoing
in the description.

accepting on the TCP connect implies incoming.  There is no outgoing
restriction.  An outgoing-only server only accepts email via BSMTP from the
spool.

/ahw


Thanks.


On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:12:42 -0500 Alan Altmark said:
On Thursday, 03/08/2007 at 10:39 EST, A. Harry Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:05:28 -0500 Aria Bamdad said:
 I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same
port.
 Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another for
 outgoing?

 We have 1 incoming, and several outgoing.  Have your outgoing listen
 on a different port, and have a MAXMAILBYTES of 1.

And if you want multiple incoming servers, specify each server in the PORT
statement for port 25, but don't set MAXMAILBYTES to 1.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: TIMEZONE

2007-03-09 Thread Stephen Frazier
Back then we used 1 a character year, 0-9 was 1950-1959, A-J was 1960-1969 and K-T was 1970-1979. If 
you want to know why look at the punch card code. 0-9 was a single punch. A-J was a + (12 punch) 
with a 0-9. K-T was a - (11 punch) with a 0-9. We knew that this would break in 1980 but we thought 
by then we would not be using cards any more. :)

However VM came along and now we have virtual cards in our RDR and PUN. :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jeff Henry wrote:
On 3/9/07, *Mike Walter* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


... and IBM has better things to work on than something 35 years
from now, ...


That's what everybody was saying back in  1965 about the y2k problem.  
:-)




And because they said that, them mainframe thingies caught on! There was 
a reason they were so tight with those extra bytes for the 19  way 
back then! It might have had consequence, but I'm not sure it was the 
wrong choice _at the time_.


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Re: VM second level

2007-03-09 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
When the OS/390 guys ask me why I do VM I respond, Because I cannot handle the 
real world!

-Original Message-
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Parmelee, Phil
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:45 PM
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Subject: Re: VM second level


Just think of it as knowing that you are living in the Matrix.



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Thu 3/8/2007 12:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM second level



Yes, I'm having a real hard time with the virtual world but I'm 
progressing...  Thanks for all the help from everyone.

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 12:27 PM 
The simple answer is that, once your virtual machine is set up, everything 
you¹re interested in are the virtual components; You no longer need to deal 
with the ³real² devices.

In your virtual machine, all you get to see is the 12FF disk; the real DASD it 
resides on doesn¹t exist in your virtual world. The same can be said for your 
virtual NIC; you don¹t care what the real OSA card is at that point. Your 
terminal? It¹s whatever the virtual machine¹s console address was defined as. 
It doesn¹t matter what real terminal you¹re sitting at.

For DASD, you¹re going to label your minidisk, so you¹d use whatever label you 
initialized with. It doesn¹t matter what the label of the real DASD is, and you 
can use it, or some other label, based on your current needs.

You¹ve got to think ³virtually².
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 / ( ) \  507-284-0844   Rochester, MN 55905
^^-^^   -
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
 in practice, theory and practice are different.


 From: Fran Hensler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You could restore yoour original install tapes to you 2nd level 
 machine and then apply maintenance.

 /Fran
 -
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:32:58 -0500 Anne Crabtree said:
 That's probably what I want to do eventually.  I'm trying to learn 
 how to do this so I can test maintenance somewhere before putting it 
 on production (which is my only option at the moment).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 8:11 AM 
 You could put 510W01 in your 2nd level directory but it would be a 
 minidisk on the real 510W01 volume.

 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:06:24 -0500 Anne Crabtree said:
 I was confused as to whether I should put VM2CKP in the DIRECTORY
 stmt
 as opposed to 510W01.  I'm just not sure I set everything up right.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 7:49 AM 
 Anne -

 You would use the 12FF disk for your 2nd level directory.

 In fact you could not write the directory to 510W01 even if you 
 wanted to.  510W01 is not defined in your 2nd level machine.

 /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 43 
 years
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.724.738.2153
Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock

 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:36:28 -0500 Anne Crabtree said:
 I'm trying to set up a second level vm system following directions
 in
 Z/VM Running Guest Operating Systems  Chapters 6 and 7.  Here's 
 my directory entry on first level:

 USER VMTEST VMTEST 64M 128M BG
  MACHINE ESA 2
  OPTION TODENABLE
  ACCOUNT 1 VMTEST
  IPL CMS
  SPECIAL 400 3270
  CONSOLE 009 3215 T
  SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
  SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
  SPOOL 00E 1403 A
  LINK MAINT 0190 0190 RR
  LINK MAINT 019D 019D RR
  LINK MAINT 019E 019E RR
  MDISK  191 3390 217 0070 510W01 MR
  MDISK 1000 3390 287 0035 510W01 MR
  MDISK 12FF 3390 322 0070 510W01 MR

 I'm confused when I logon as VMTEST and create the USER DIRECT. In 
 DIRECTORY stmt, should it be:
 DIRECTORY 12FF 3390 VM2CKP   or do I have to use 510W01 since that's
 the real volid where 12FF is?  User OPERATOR looks like this: USER 
 OPERATOR AB12CD 32M 64M ABCDEFG  IPL 190 PARM AUTOCR
  MACHINE ESA 4
  ACCOUNT DEPT0001 BIN001
  SPOOL00C RDR  A
  SPOOL00D PUN  A
  SPOOL00E 4248 A
  CONSOLE  01F 3270 T
  * R/W disks
  MDISK  191 3390  000  END VMT191 WR ALL
  MDISK 1000 3390  000  END IPLDSK WR ALL
  MDISK 12FF 3390  000  END VM2CKP WR ALL
  * R/O disks
  MDISK  190 3390  000  END MNT190 RR ALL
  MDISK  19D 3390  000  END MNT19D RR ALL
  MDISK  19E 3390  000  END MNT19E RR ALL

 In SYSTEM CONFIG, I have:
 Checkpoint Volid VM2CKP From Cylinder 1 for 2,
 Warmstart  Volid VM2CKP From Cylinder 3 for 2
 CP_Owned Slot 1 VM2CKP

 but since VM2CKP is a label not an actual volume, I'm not sure if I
 did
 it right.

 I was trying to send this question to my buddy Phil at Velocity, 
 but
 it
 keeps coming back as undeliverable so I thought someone else could 
 probably clear this up for me. Thanks!




 Anne D. Crabtree
 System Programmer
 WV Dept of Administration - OT
 304-558-5914 ext 8885
 Fax 

Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 09:14 CST, Brian Ferguson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS.
 
 And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the
 volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image.

DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs.  As 
you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it 
won't run.  If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back 
it up.  DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU.

I can only speculate that standalone DFDSS detected a higher level of 
hardware and wandered into the Void and was Lost, being sent to the 
equivalent of Software Hell.  To find out whether this is true and/or 
intentional, you'd have to open a PMR (start with DFDSS).

But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Walter
 But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.

They are serial activities.  True in an LPAR.  But VM offers this unique 
thingy you may have heard of called a Virtual Machine.
If one is at a DR site and logs on multiple of these Virtual Machine 
thingies, each one *could* start a separate S/A DFDSS restore process.
If a master Virtual Machine thingy logged on and started CMS, in theory 
(and in practice for us years ago using VMBSAR) that master VM could 
AUTOLOG other restore-only Virtual Machine thingies with a passed 
parameter to define which disk should be restored, and the autologged 
Virtual Machine thingy could link back to the master's disk (and SCIF to 
it) to perform  any special setup, IPL the S/A DFDSS and the master 
Virtual Machine thingy could drive the commands through SCIF.  It's akin 
to another thingy called multitasking.  You might have heard of 
multitasking and these Virtual Machine thingies, but are just having a 
senior (or Friday) moment.  ;-)

And yes, DDR could back up the guest and perform the restore.   But I am 
not familiar enough with DFDSS to know if it can reliably backup a 
**running** z/OS system (I suspect not) such that the image can be 
reliably restored.  Open databases and other such apps usually make this a 
career-threatening technique.

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 09:14 CST, Brian Ferguson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS.
 
 And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the
 volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image.

DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs.  As 
you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it 
won't run.  If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back 
it up.  DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU.

I can only speculate that standalone DFDSS detected a higher level of 
hardware and wandered into the Void and was Lost, being sent to the 
equivalent of Software Hell.  To find out whether this is true and/or 
intentional, you'd have to open a PMR (start with DFDSS).

But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



 
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Re: TIMEZONE

2007-03-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack

Stephen Frazier wrote:
Back then we used 1 a character year, 0-9 was 1950-1959, A-J was 1960-1969 and K-T was 1970-1979. If 
you want to know why look at the punch card code. 0-9 was a single punch. A-J was a + (12 punch) 
with a 0-9. K-T was a - (11 punch) with a 0-9. We knew that this would break in 1980 but we thought 
by then we would not be using cards any more. :)

However VM came along and now we have virtual cards in our RDR and PUN. :)
  
I have real cards (5081's) in my shirt pocket.  I thought I had a life 
time supply but someone cleaned out a supply cabinet here and now I only 
have about 2 boxes left and no that isn't enough to share :-P


Jim


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Jeff Henry wrote:

On 3/9/07, *Mike Walter* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


... and IBM has better things to work on than something 35 years
from now, ...


That's what everybody was saying back in  1965 about the y2k problem.  
:-)


  
And because they said that, them mainframe thingies caught on! There was 
a reason they were so tight with those extra bytes for the 19  way 
back then! It might have had consequence, but I'm not sure it was the 
wrong choice _at the time_.



  



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Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
A gotcha if you are intending to get a starter system up and running 
with the *MVS *version of DFDSS or ADRDSSU or whatever it's called is 
that it cannot restore a CPVOL initialized disk.  Says so right there in 
the ADRDSSU manual.  We are doing our D/R with the idea of getting up a 
small (oxymoron) MVS system using the S/A ADRDSSU and then using that as 
a driver to restore the full MVS system as well as VM.  This doesn't 
have anything to do with an IFL but even if you could somehow get the 
S/A ADRDSSU to run in the IFL, you could not restore a VM system.

Jim

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But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 

another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.


They are serial activities.  True in an LPAR.  But VM offers this unique 
thingy you may have heard of called a Virtual Machine.
If one is at a DR site and logs on multiple of these Virtual Machine 
thingies, each one *could* start a separate S/A DFDSS restore process.
If a master Virtual Machine thingy logged on and started CMS, in theory 
(and in practice for us years ago using VMBSAR) that master VM could 
AUTOLOG other restore-only Virtual Machine thingies with a passed 
parameter to define which disk should be restored, and the autologged 
Virtual Machine thingy could link back to the master's disk (and SCIF to 
it) to perform  any special setup, IPL the S/A DFDSS and the master 
Virtual Machine thingy could drive the commands through SCIF.  It's akin 
to another thingy called multitasking.  You might have heard of 
multitasking and these Virtual Machine thingies, but are just having a 
senior (or Friday) moment.  ;-)


And yes, DDR could back up the guest and perform the restore.   But I am 
not familiar enough with DFDSS to know if it can reliably backup a 
**running** z/OS system (I suspect not) such that the image can be 
reliably restored.  Open databases and other such apps usually make this a 
career-threatening technique.


Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.





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On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 09:14 CST, Brian Ferguson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS.

And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the
volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image.



DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs.  As 
you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it 
won't run.  If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back 
it up.  DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU.


I can only speculate that standalone DFDSS detected a higher level of 
hardware and wandered into the Void and was Lost, being sent to the 
equivalent of Software Hell.  To find out whether this is true and/or 
intentional, you'd have to open a PMR (start with DFDSS).


But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.


Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



 
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Re: Multiple VM SMTP servers

2007-03-09 Thread David Boyes
 Is anyone running multiple VM SMTP servers to address problems with
 mail agents getting timeouts because VM SMTP is busy?

I have in the past. You can run multiple servers listening on the same
port by specifying multiple PORT statements in the TCPIP profile for
port 25 with different userids. 

 I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same
port.
 Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another for
 outgoing?

Not from the IP side. If your mail were arriving via the spool (eg, the
way it was done back in the CMS days), then you could do so, but not via
TCP. 

Just a caveat though: if you do run multiple SMTPs, you will start
seeing messages arrive in somewhat random order (see this list for an
example), where you often see replies before the original message. 


Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread David Boyes
 But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in
 another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in
the
 LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial
 activities.

Restoring a 1 pack VM system, then doing multiple DFDSS restores allows
you to have multiple restores occur in parallel, up to the number of
tape drives you have available, which dramatically speed up the restore
process. Standalone DFDSS is still pretty dumb about making use of
multiple devices; restoring under VM removes much of this stupidity. 


Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Tony Harminc
Alan Altmark wrote:

 DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs.  As 
 you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it 
 won't run.  If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back 
 it up.  DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU.

Surely this is backwards; it won't run because the IFL takes steps to make
sure it won't. And appears to break the promise in the PofO that says that
programs don't cause machine checks.

Regardless, if it's not licensed, then they shouldn't be running it.

Tony H.


Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 05:30 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Restoring a 1 pack VM system, then doing multiple DFDSS restores allows
 you to have multiple restores occur in parallel, up to the number of
 tape drives you have available, which dramatically speed up the restore
 process. Standalone DFDSS is still pretty dumb about making use of
 multiple devices; restoring under VM removes much of this stupidity.

You make my point, actually:  If the intent is to exploit z/VM's 
capabilities, then create backups using the z/VM utilities, not z/OS.

Otherwise, you have to use multiple LPARs to accomplish the same task.  So 
it's a question of how much z/VM will cost (on standard engines) vs. how 
much multiple LPARs will cost. 

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: DFDSS and an IFL

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 05:30 EST, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Alan Altmark wrote:
 
  DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs.  As
  you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it
  won't run.  If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to 
back
  it up.  DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU.
 
 Surely this is backwards; it won't run because the IFL takes steps to 
make
 sure it won't. And appears to break the promise in the PofO that says 
that
 programs don't cause machine checks.

If a program issues instructions in the PofO, rest assured it won't cause 
a check-stop condition.

 Regardless, if it's not licensed, then they shouldn't be running it.

Amen.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Ackerman
That use of orthogonal is common in computer science. Axes at right ang
les (orthogonal) are 
used to represent independent variables. These variables can be manipulat
ed independently. So in 
this sense orthogonal and independent are similar. But in computer sc
ience they talk about 
orthogonal design, rather then independent design, because the latter
 could mean many other 
things. 

I'm with Alan, and not just because he spells his name right!

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:00:58 +0100, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] w
rote:
 Alan Altmark wrote:
  Architecturally, the number of cylinders is orthogonal to the model
  number.  It just so happens that our model 'n' has 'm' number of cyl
inders
  on it.  The number of cylinders actually comes from the device itsel
f.

Sir Alan probably had the thumb at the wrong spot in the dictionary.
Maybe he meant independent or not defined by instead. Working with
mini disks we have learned not to expect the model number to define
the number of cylinders, and we probably rarely have to.

IMHO it's an omission that the number of cylinders of the disk is not
in the monitor data.

Rob
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Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Ackerman
No, finite fields cannot be ordered. In any ordered field 1  2  3  4 
 ..., which implies the field 
must be infinite. (If it were to loop around, it would violate the axio
ms defining an ordering.)

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It may be possible to construct a finite Galois field in which that is
true.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_field
 
 

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   Interesting problem - a system in which 4  7. Surely there is a
parallel universe somewhere ...


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   On Mar 6, 2007, at 3:35 PM, RPN01 wrote:


   New math.
   
   

   I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is
more than two and a half times as big as 27.
   

   Adam




Re: High Level Assembler

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:45:25 +1100, Graeme Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Fellow Listers,

I have been asked if we need High Level Assembler.

We have three exits that I know of
- VMSECURE but this can be done in REXX.
- RACF (I have read CMS Assembler is OK)
- RSCS - still to be examined

Does any-one know of a product that we need HLA  HLATK for.
We run zVM 5.2 with CA VM:Manager suite.

Thanks
Graeme Moss

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From
z/VM General Information 
GC24-6095-04 

High Level Assembler 
Although 
 not a prerequisite for z/VM, the IBM High Level Assembler, V1.5 
(5696-234) 
 or later, or an equivalent product, is required to: 
* 
   Create a new DMSTRT for system languages (NLS) 
* 
   Create image libraries for system printers (FCBs) 
* 
   Create GCS application segments (CONTENTS macro) 
* 
   Access major CMS application interfaces (CMSCALL) 
* 
   Access most CP application interfaces (DIAGNOSE) 
* 
   Modify the AVS tuning control module (AGWTUN) 
* 
   Use RAS tools (such as MDCHECK, FS2SFSER, AFTCHAIN, PRINTBLK, and 
PRINTFST) 
 
* 
   Use the API for data compression 
* 
   Use the CMS pipelines assembler macro interface 
* 
   Customize Language Environment or compile assembler routines used in 

mixed-language 
 user applications 
* 
   Use exit routines in z/VM features, such as DirMaint, or in VM-related
 products, 
such 
 as RSCS 
* 
   Create applications that exploit the IEEE Floating Point hardware faci
lity 
* 
   Add devices that cannot be sensed (updating HCPRIO ASSEMBLE) 
* 
   Perform local modifications to modules written in assembler 
* 
   Service the CP Loader (HCPLDR) 
* 
   Assemble any CP modules 
* 
   Use CP exit routines 
* 
Reassemble CP replacement parts for the RACF for z/VM optional feature

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America  (dot) com 


Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:09:32 -0600, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My assumption was that he just wanted to get out of the currently runnin
g
program, rather than returning to the calling routine, in which case,
exiting, possibly with a non-zero return code might fill the bill. Now, 
if
the subroutine were called by other means, then an exit might still ge
t
you back into the calling program, in which case, it wouldn't be a stron
g
enough tool.

HX takes you back to the command line. 
'exit' does not. 
HI does not, either. 
CP IPL does, but wipes out a lot of current state and reruns the PROFILE 
EXEC.

An assembler program that ABENDs is the closest thing to HX.

Of course, the real question is why do you want to HX from a REXX progra
m? There may be some 
other solution, if we know what you are trying to accomplish.


Re: Multiple VM SMTP servers

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:05:28 -0500, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

Hi,

Is anyone running multiple VM SMTP servers to address problems with
mail agents getting timeouts because VM SMTP is busy?

I was planning on adding one more SMTP server listening at the same port
.
Is there a way to dedicate one server to incoming mail and another for
outgoing?

Thanks.

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We run two SMTP servers on each VM system. The inbound one is called ISMT
P and it listens on 
port 25. Nothing special about it. The outbound one is called SMTP, it li
stens on port 8025, but 
never gets any incoming mail. It uses IPMAILER ALL to send all outgoing m
ail to our cMTA 
(Corporate Mail Transfer Agent). 

I have two so that ISMTP can access DNS while SMTP does NOT. Details a wh
ile back on this list. I 
didn't do this for performance, but I don't see why you could not have IS
MPT1,2,3,... all listening 
on port 25.