Re: OT: If you use linkedin.com...
A dollar says the are not doing a search on mainframe sysprogs to get faces for advertising. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: If you use linkedin.com... I don't know about you, but if they want to use my name and face, I expect them to rent it by the hour. I don't know about you, but I would not give up my sysprog job ... ;-) The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look. It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person. -- P. J. O'Rourke - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Separate virtual switch controllers
We just went through all this with a government contract - we had to have a presentation zone separated totally from a Data zone separated from an app zone, it was a nightmare. Technical (logic) has nothing to do with it, it is another chance for the dreaded Loch Ness Security Department to arise from the mire and take over. We created 3 VLANS on the mainframe. We had to kill our hipersocket connection because each VLAN was required to exit the mainframe out to Ethernet and proceed through network firewalls and subsequently return to the mainframe after the data was blessed. But wait, you can't have all that data coming back through one VSWITCH can you? Of course not. I would prefer not to discuss the OSA cards, that got in to real money. So all of our data does not go through the same OSA cards, that is my story and I am sticking to it. Anyway, got to learn a boatload, and spend lots of money, so all was not lost. If attaching this connection is against policy, I apologize in advance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPw From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:26 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Separate virtual switch controllers No One Controller can handle all the VSWITCHES you may want to create. I would create at least to Controller and code all your VSwitch definitions with a CONTROLLER * and two RDEV devices. Also you can use VLAN's to reduce the number of Ports and isolate the traffic through a switch. Larry Davis From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Separate virtual switch controllers We are working on a project to provide Internet access to select Linux guests on z/VM. The network team plans to use separate OSA's and virtual switches for this. For the initial testing, there will be one OSA and virtual switch for the presentation zone and a separate OSA and virtual switch for the secure zone. These are in addition to the existing virtual switch that we already have on our internal network. The network people have also asked for separate virtual switch controllers. Is there any reason to create separate controller virtual machines (DTCVSWx) for these virtual switches? My understanding is that no data flows through the controllers. They're just used to manage the virtual switches. I believe there was a statement from IBM that the two default controllers, DTCVSW1 and DTCVSW2, are sufficient for any number of virtual switches. Is there any security risk if the same controllers manage virtual switches for multiple zones? Dennis I want to express my gratitude to my family. To my mother and father who instilled in me the values that have carried me this far. -- former U.S. Representative Anthony Wiener, during his resignation speech This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
I just came from the calendar kiosk at the mall. They did not have any Mayan calendars, so I got one with cute little bunnies on it, guess we're good for 12 months! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 Or maybe they just thought that's all the calendar anyone would ever need, like 640K on a PC and 16MB on a mainframe? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer; MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Company Phone: (254) 761-6649 Fax: (254) 741-5777 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Rich Greenberg Sent: Wed 7/6/2011 4:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote: } However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. } } Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? I saw a cartoon a while ago showing 2 Mayans talking. One asked the other why the calendar ended in 2012, and the reply was thats where we ran out of space on the stone tablet. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
vswitch delete
Sorry to pose a seemingly simple question here, but I have now spent over an hour looking for the command. How do I delete a vswitch? i.e. the opposite of DEFINE VSWITCH VSW1 RDEV D905 AC00 CONTROLLER * David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: z196 = z10?
AA powered? THAT's green. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z196 = z10? After Z comes AA. At least in most spreadsheet programs. And by that time, I'll need to be in AA! grin On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 18:28 -0700, Tom Huegel wrote: My problem is that after 'Z' then what? Had they started with 'A' the whole alphabet lies ahead. I think 'Z' came from a German accent. Zee man is walking.. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: ipl tcpip
Can anyone share their profile tcpip and dtcparms file to accomplish this two stack setup? Can I share the same OSA address 9800-9802 or do I have to define 3 more? And any holes I am going to fall in? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 5:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ipl tcpip On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Thanks, I will take a look at auditor; the temporary TCPIP outage is not a problem. I have no way other than TCPIP to connect without physically going into our Secure Area where the HMC lives. As folks mention, a 2nd stack is the most flexible (also if you made a mistake in the configuration files). And be aware that for most configuration changes in VM TCP/IP, you really don't have to restart the stack... | Rob - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
ipl tcpip
How can I remotely bounce TCPIP without using by HMC? I want to send a command, say from maint, that would shut it down and subsequently bring it back. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: ipl tcpip
OSA From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ipl tcpip 2074 or OSA-ICC access? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.commailto:david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: How can I remotely bounce TCPIP without using by HMC? I want to send a command, say from maint, that would shut it down and subsequently bring it back. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: ipl tcpip
Thanks, I will take a look at auditor; the temporary TCPIP outage is not a problem. I have no way other than TCPIP to connect without physically going into our Secure Area where the HMC lives. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ipl tcpip I think you have two choices here, David. 1) log onto your z/VM system via another path other than TCP/IP, e.g., a locally attached 3270 or OSA ICC. 2) use a utility like AUDITOR (included with z/VM) to automatically xautolog TCPIP after you have forced it off. Of course, this will disrupt your TN3270 session for the length of time it takes for TCPIP to come back up. Have a good one. On 07/30/2010 10:58 AM, Dean, David (I/S) wrote: How can I remotely bounce TCPIP without using by HMC? I want to send a command, say from maint, that would shut it down and subsequently bring it back. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- Dave Jones V/Soft www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544 - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: ICKDSF format of new DASD
How do you init, with CPFMTXA? Thanks, cause I still waste all that time. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ICKDSF format of new DASD Hi Marcy, I use to format the whole volume under CPFMTXA or ICKDSF on z/OS and then turn around only to have Linux format them again a real waste of time. So now I just init cylinder zero with a z/VM Label for doc purposes and it works fine. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:15 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ICKDSF format of new DASD When we *had* zLinux POC guests, we formatted them under CMS using the LXFMT utility, see: http://www.sinenomine.net/products/vm/lxfmt Once formatted with LXFMT, the disk was accessible from Linux without dasdfmt. But your particular filesystem needs may require something more extravagant. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Martin Magat martinrmag...@yahoo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/20/2010 11:56 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ICKDSF format of new DASD Hi Marcy Based on our experience, we have no problem formatting just the first five cyl (0-5) before we attached them as linux dasd device mdisks. In turn, they will format them using their own linux utilities. rgrds --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: From: Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Subject: ICKDSF format of new DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 9:36 AM What is the current recommendation for new DASD purchases and ICKDSF CPVOL FORMAT for disk to be used for Linux. We've been formatting the whole thing. Once upon a time there was a DASD driver bug that this helped avoid, but I'm sure that has been fixed before. Marcy The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Define CPU's
This should be easy, but I don't want to mess it up and I am a little confused as to exactly what I need to add to USER DIRECTORY to double CPU's. I am under the understanding that based on my LINDFLT all USERS are getting the equivalent of one CPU. I need to double the power to a handfull of WebSphere servers. Below is my LNDFLT and the server I need to increase. We have a z10 with 3 IFL's aimed at the zvm LPAR. Thank you in advance PROFILE LINDFLT CLASS G IPL CMS MACHINE ESA MAXSTORAGE 2047M * OPTION QUICKDSP * STORAGE 128M CONSOLE 0009 3215 T NICDEF 600 TYPE QDIO LAN SYSTEM VSW1 SPOOL 000C 2540 READER * SPOOL 000D 2540 PUNCH A SPOOL 000E 1403 A LINK MAINT 0190 0190 RR LINK MAINT 019D 019D RR LINK MAINT 019E 019E RR LINK TCPMAINT 0592 0592 RR USER LNX086 PGDN86 10240M 10240M INCLUDE LINDFLT MDISK 191 3390 0001 0500 l8601a MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE MDISK 201 3390 0501 1500 l8601A MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE MDISK 202 3390 2001 8016 L8601A MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE MDISK 700 3390 0001 32759 L8602A MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE MDISK 701 3390 0001 32759 L8603A MR READ WRITE MULTIPLE DEDICATE ED00 ED00 DEDICATE ED01 ED01 DEDICATE ED02 ED02 David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Define CPU's
WebSphere caused the recommendation of the 2 CPU setup. I also appreciate all the educations on SET SHARE vs. SET CPU. I am now contemplating which cliff to jump off, if not both. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Define CPU's Another way of wording this is that adding CPUs to a virtual machine allows the guest to take advantage of multitasking, but does not increase the total amount of CPU time the image receives. If single threading tasks in the image is the bottleneck, then adding a CPU may relieve it. But if this isn't the issue, then it won't help. Now, I think I saw WebSphere mentioned somewhere along the line, and I think that it will take advantage of multitasking, given the increased number of available CPUs. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/8/10 10:20 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thursday, 07/08/2010 at 11:02 EDT, Martin Zimelis martin.zime...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you're max'ing out these virtual machines by consuming 100% of a real processor, it should be as simple as increasing their SHARE values. To finish the thought, adding virtual CPUs to a guest does not add CPU capacity to a guest; SET SHARE does. Adding another virtual CPU may allow the guest to better use the CPU capacity it has been given, increasing throughput or decreasing response time, or it may actually slow the guest down. It all depends on the application. A good performance monitor will tell you if a guest is constrained, and why. Of course, one must measure, change, and measure again to ensure that the changes had the desired effect. Sometimes after you release the hounds, you discover that the yard is a mess. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: MONDCSS segment update
Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how do I get rid of one? 0011 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A09000 09FFF SC R 2 N/A N/A 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS N/A01F00 01FFF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0009 CMSFILES DCSS N/A01900 01BFF SR A 3 N/A N/A 0008 SVM DCSS N/A01900 019FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS N/A01800 018FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0005 INSTSEG DCSS N/A01400 016FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0003 DOSINST DCSS N/A00900 0090F SR A 0 N/A N/A 0038 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A09000 09FFF SC S 0 N/A N/A -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so the monitor does need to stop and start. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run over memory being used somewhere else? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: MONDCSS segment update
I am positive I did not do what I want. I can kill the users since they are part of this project. If I do that and run saveseq mondcss will this straighten it out? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how do I get rid of one? No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to *MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so). And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not sure you did what you wanted to do. Rob 0011 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A 09000 09FFF SC R 2 N/A N/A 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS N/A 01F00 01FFF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0009 CMSFILES DCSS N/A 01900 01BFF SR A 3 N/A N/A 0008 SVM DCSS N/A 01900 019FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS N/A 01800 018FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0005 INSTSEG DCSS N/A 01400 016FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0003 DOSINST DCSS N/A 00900 0090F SR A 0 N/A N/A 0038 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A 09000 09FFF SC S 0 N/A N/A -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so the monitor does need to stop and start. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run over memory being used somewhere else? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: MONDCSS segment update
Have the nss segment done Have monwrite user set up Doing xautolog monwrite from maint Why does it keep saying inactive?? q mon MONITOR EVENT INACTIVEBLOCK4 PARTITION0 MONITOR DCSS NAME - MONDCSS CONFIGURATION SIZE 68 LIMIT 1 MINUTES CONFIGURATION AREA IS FREE USERS CONNECTED TO *MONITOR - MONWRITE PENDING-CONFIG -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update I am positive I did not do what I want. I can kill the users since they are part of this project. If I do that and run saveseq mondcss will this straighten it out? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how do I get rid of one? No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to *MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so). And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not sure you did what you wanted to do. Rob 0011 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A 09000 09FFF SC R 2 N/A N/A 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS N/A 01F00 01FFF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0009 CMSFILES DCSS N/A 01900 01BFF SR A 3 N/A N/A 0008 SVM DCSS N/A 01900 019FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS N/A 01800 018FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0005 INSTSEG DCSS N/A 01400 016FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0003 DOSINST DCSS N/A 00900 0090F SR A 0 N/A N/A 0038 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A 09000 09FFF SC S 0 N/A N/A -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so the monitor does need to stop and start. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run over memory being used somewhere else? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: MONDCSS segment update
Got it. Thanks for all the help. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update Have the nss segment done Have monwrite user set up Doing xautolog monwrite from maint Why does it keep saying inactive?? q mon MONITOR EVENT INACTIVEBLOCK4 PARTITION0 MONITOR DCSS NAME - MONDCSS CONFIGURATION SIZE 68 LIMIT 1 MINUTES CONFIGURATION AREA IS FREE USERS CONNECTED TO *MONITOR - MONWRITE PENDING-CONFIG -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update I am positive I did not do what I want. I can kill the users since they are part of this project. If I do that and run saveseq mondcss will this straighten it out? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Ok ,I have successfully(?) created two MONDCSS segs in the same address, how do I get rid of one? No, it's not successful yet... once you SAVESEG MONDCSS it will activate the skeleton (0038) and purge the current (0011). But you can't as long as the monitor is active and someone is connected to *MONITOR (the user count of 2 says so). And from what I can see here, the old and new are the same. So I'm not sure you did what you wanted to do. Rob 0011 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A 09000 09FFF SC R 2 N/A N/A 0010 GUICSLIB DCSS N/A 01F00 01FFF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0009 CMSFILES DCSS N/A 01900 01BFF SR A 3 N/A N/A 0008 SVM DCSS N/A 01900 019FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0007 CMSPIPES DCSS N/A 01800 018FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0005 INSTSEG DCSS N/A 01400 016FF SR A 9 N/A N/A 0003 DOSINST DCSS N/A 00900 0090F SR A 0 N/A N/A 0038 MONDCSS CPDCSS N/A 09000 09FFF SC S 0 N/A N/A -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONDCSS segment update Totally safe. Only users of the star monitor function will notice - so the monitor does need to stop and start. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run over memory being used somewhere else? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
MONDCSS segment update
Is it safe to change MONDCSS sizes on running system, i.e., I won't run over memory being used somewhere else? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
query command to text file
Ok, I apologize up front, this is probably real simple. I need to output a bunch of query commands to text files to download, e.g. in Linux ls output.txt. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: query command to text file
Thank you, saved me a ton of time. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: query command to text file From the command line:PIPE CP QUERY x | QUERY OUTPUT A -- or PIPE CMS for CMS queries ... Scott Rohling On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.commailto:david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Ok, I apologize up front, this is probably real simple. I need to output a bunch of query commands to text files to download, e.g. in Linux ls output.txt. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
zLinux / WebSphere spinup times
We are getting ready to put in to Production 10 new WebSphere / zLinux servers, each having 2 to 6 WebSphere Profiles, each server has 6 to 8 gigs allocated and they are attached to 3 IFL's on a z10. . Every morning when you first login to the WebSphere management console it is slow. After the initial logon response is fine. What's going on? Is something asleep? Cached out? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: What does the job market look like out there?
Believe it or not, this time I think all the old dinosaurs are AHEAD of the curve. We have been pushing this platform for 5+ years and it is finally beginning to ratchet up. Managers are beginning, finally, to understand the cost advantages, not only the hardware but (all IBM'ers please stop here) a huge amount in licenses. Five years to teach management plus five years to teach HR and recruiters...if a meteor doesn't strike and wipe all you Stegos out you could be eating leafy plants in the future. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lerret, Anker Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:59 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: What does the job market look like out there? H. Interesting. I'm contemplating a career switch from AIX/Linux ba ck to zVM (after a 15 year absence). Maybe that isn't such a hot idea. Anker Lerret Hewlett-Packard (nee EDS) - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: zVM CPU allocation
Check the steal column. This is an anomaly, but the numbers on this server are high and often, which is why I am questioning. We do see performance drops at this point, so something is not right. 0 0860 14652 937188 88826000 0 0 108 24 0 0 100 0 0 0 0860 14652 937188 88826000 0 0 109 23 0 1 98 0 1 1 0860 14232 937188 88826000 0 0 107 33 1 1 43 0 55 1 0860 13984 937196 888252002048 133 223 0 1 9 5 85 0 1860 13860 937200 88824800 848 511 1283 1 1 26 2 70 0 0860 13860 937200 8882480016 0 713 1283 1 2 26 7 64 0 0860 13860 937200 88824800 0 0 510 1118 1 1 71 0 27 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: zVM CPU allocation On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com wrote: As Rob and Alan have less blatantly stated, Linux CPU numbers are bogus in a virtual environment. However, with the addition of steal percentage (%st in top), the amount of CPU that is being stolen by the hipervisor, I believe many would agree that they are less bogus. I like your less bogus qualification. I'm trying to be more PC and call it different And if we're into word games; I don't like steal in this context. It suggests something you had was taken away. But in this case, you did not have it and it could not be taken from you :-) Most people *do* agree that you need both Linux and z/VM data to make sense of it or understand whether there is a problem. When someone claims to have wisdom in only a single metric, you normally don't have to try very hard to show him wrong. It is very easy to explain why the old Linux numbers were wrong (and by how much) when you had the z/VM data already. We use the VM monitor data to correct the Linux data. It is true that with the virtual CPU time accounting in Linux (that what produces the steal time) are not affected by that virtualization effect anymore. The numbers are still a bit off, but in normal situation the difference can be ignored. Unfortunately I often deal with abnormal situations where people have performance problems. In my Understanding CPU Usage presentation I show a case where z/VM claims the guest uses 30% of a CPU, Linux says it uses 6% of a CPU, and when you look for detailed per-process usage it adds up to 3% of a CPU (with the new improved numbers). I bring a stuffed penguin for someone in the audience who thinks Linux numbers are correct. And each time it goes back home with me ;-) This was indeed caused by a kernel bug. I think we identified 3 problems with the new CPU accounting in Linux because we match both numbers and want them to be correct. Eventually those bugs get fixed in your systems too. Whether the numbers are more correct or more often correct is not really the issue. I believe it is more important what the value of those numbers is for those who see it and whether they let you solve the performance problem. The reason the Linux admin looks at CPU usage is not because he is worried to wear out the CPU, but because he believes the rest is still available for him to use. In a virtualized environment it does not work like that. There's still a load of tools out there that don't show steal as part of the metrics, but just have user, nice, system. In that case it is better to see 99% to show the system is out of CPU than to see 25% and have no clue. But back to the original problem. If the 3 IFL's run at 10-15% we do not expect the old metrics in Linux to show 99%. There must be something else in the system causing this, and the monitor data would reveal the cause. Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
linux vmstat steal column
Is there a way to see what CP is doing during steals? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Linux / Websphere memory creep
OK, Marcy, based on the below, and the IBM info, I am moving past heap size and on to DircectByteBuffer use. Thank you! lnx086:/usr/WAS70/AppServer/java/bin # ./java -d32 -version Running a 32-bit JVM is not supported on this platform. lnx086:/usr/WAS70/AppServer/java/bin # ./java -d64 -version java version 1.6.0 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pxz6460sr5ifix-20090623_01(SR5+151659+151951+151086+151619+151750+152177+152017+152507)) IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 Linux s390x-64 jvmxz6460sr5ifx-20090612_37149 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - 20090612_037149_BHdSMr JIT - r9_20090518_2017 GC - 20090417_AA) JCL - 20090623_01 lnx086:/usr/WAS70/AppServer/java/bin # -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux / Websphere memory creep It was here http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21373312 You have a native memory issue. I did include my previous post below. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Linux / Websphere memory creep I will check on turning off JVM. Good point. No I did not see last post; I got kicked off the list for a couple of days, somehow, but all is well now. We are getting ready to go live with a large WebSphere environment and this could quickly become a real issue. Please resend me that link. To the list or my email is fine. Thank you. david_d...@bcbst.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:12 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux / Websphere memory creep Does the creep go away when you stop/start the jvm? Did you see my response to your previous post? The link included disusses native memory leaks (or extreme usage) in websphere. -- We have an app doing that too. See http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21373312 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21373312 Disabling AIO solves it, but our app can't run in sync mode for its batch. So right now it's going back and forth 2x daily. We have a PMR open with IBM. FWIW, it happens on Linux on Intel too with this app (vendor app). It does not happen on Windows. So it is Linux specific, not platform specific. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Linux / Websphere memory creep zLinux 5.4, SUSE 10.2. Running one instance of WebSphere 7 with 6 profiles / JVM instances. I started with 3 GIG, went to 5GIG, now at 6 GIG, and free memory still drops little by little, SWAP eventually begins to grow and finally performance goes to heck. Just like Windows (ouch) you reboot and everything is cool for a few more days I have read and heard the lectures on zLinux taking all you give it, but I need it to STOP. Yesterday procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 140192 273624 129759600 0 8 2850 241 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139448 273668 129755200 0 9 2254 249 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139076 273692 129752800 0 9 2235 245 1 0 99 0 0 Today procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 46300 292004 116002000 327 1783 269 3 0 94 0 3 0 0 0 46304 292064 115996000 214 2398 257 2 0 97 0 0 0 0
Linux / Websphere memory creep
zLinux 5.4, SUSE 10.2. Running one instance of WebSphere 7 with 6 profiles / JVM instances. I started with 3 GIG, went to 5GIG, now at 6 GIG, and free memory still drops little by little, SWAP eventually begins to grow and finally performance goes to heck. Just like Windows (ouch) you reboot and everything is cool for a few more days I have read and heard the lectures on zLinux taking all you give it, but I need it to STOP. Yesterday procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 140192 273624 129759600 0 8 2850 241 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139448 273668 129755200 0 9 2254 249 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139076 273692 129752800 0 9 2235 245 1 0 99 0 0 Today procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 46300 292004 116002000 327 1783 269 3 0 94 0 3 0 0 0 46304 292064 115996000 214 2398 257 2 0 97 0 0 0 0 0 45668 292164 116140800 046 1832 287 4 0 94 0 1 0 0 0 45420 292228 116134400 016 2635 269 1 0 97 0 1 Here is the page info from Perfkit. DASD page creeps up just as memory. Useridhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.001 Ownedhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.010 Readshttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.018 Writehttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.024 Stealshttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.030 2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.038 XMShttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.044 MSXhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.049 XDShttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.054 WSShttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.062 Resrvdhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.066 R2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.074 R2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.081 L2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.087 L2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.094 XSTORhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.101 DASDhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.109 Sizehttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.116 Usershttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.122 LNX086http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/USE.LNX086 .0 70.2 54.3 .0 .0 14.9 67.6 50.1 615164 0 71788 542585 4 40 69580 1134k 6144M Websphere Heap size adjustments have helped somewhat. Rob? Barton? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Linux / Websphere memory creep
I will check on turning off JVM. Good point. No I did not see last post; I got kicked off the list for a couple of days, somehow, but all is well now. We are getting ready to go live with a large WebSphere environment and this could quickly become a real issue. Please resend me that link. To the list or my email is fine. Thank you. david_d...@bcbst.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:12 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux / Websphere memory creep Does the creep go away when you stop/start the jvm? Did you see my response to your previous post? The link included disusses native memory leaks (or extreme usage) in websphere. -- We have an app doing that too. See http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21373312 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21373312 Disabling AIO solves it, but our app can't run in sync mode for its batch. So right now it's going back and forth 2x daily. We have a PMR open with IBM. FWIW, it happens on Linux on Intel too with this app (vendor app). It does not happen on Windows. So it is Linux specific, not platform specific. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Linux / Websphere memory creep zLinux 5.4, SUSE 10.2. Running one instance of WebSphere 7 with 6 profiles / JVM instances. I started with 3 GIG, went to 5GIG, now at 6 GIG, and free memory still drops little by little, SWAP eventually begins to grow and finally performance goes to heck. Just like Windows (ouch) you reboot and everything is cool for a few more days I have read and heard the lectures on zLinux taking all you give it, but I need it to STOP. Yesterday procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 140192 273624 129759600 0 8 2850 241 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139448 273668 129755200 0 9 2254 249 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139076 273692 129752800 0 9 2235 245 1 0 99 0 0 Today procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 46300 292004 116002000 327 1783 269 3 0 94 0 3 0 0 0 46304 292064 115996000 214 2398 257 2 0 97 0 0 0 0 0 45668 292164 116140800 046 1832 287 4 0 94 0 1 0 0 0 45420 292228 116134400 016 2635 269 1 0 97 0 1 Here is the page info from Perfkit. DASD page creeps up just as memory. Userid http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.001 Owned http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.010 Reads http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.018 Write http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.024 Steals http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.030 2GB http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.038 XMS http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.044 MSX http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.049 XDS http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.054 WSS http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.062 Resrvd http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.066 R2GB http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.074 R2GB http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.081 L2GB http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.087 L2GB http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.094 XSTOR http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.101DASD http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.109Size http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.116 Users http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.122 LNX086 http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/USE.LNX086.0 70.2 54.3 .0 .0 14.9 67.6 50.1 615164 0 71788 542585 4 40 69580 1134k 6144M Websphere Heap size adjustments have helped somewhat. Rob? Barton? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link
Linux / Websphere memory creep
zLinux 5.4, SUSE 10.2. Running one instance of WebSphere 7 with 6 profiles / JVM instances. I started with 3 GIG, went to 5GIG, now at 6 GIG, and free memory still drops little by little, SWAP eventually begins to grow and finally performance goes to heck. Just like Windows (ouch) you reboot and everything is cool for a few more days I have read and heard the lectures on zLinux taking all you give it, but I need it to STOP. Yesterday procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 140192 273624 129759600 0 8 2850 241 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139448 273668 129755200 0 9 2254 249 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0 139076 273692 129752800 0 9 2235 245 1 0 99 0 0 Today procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- -cpu-- r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa st 0 0 0 46300 292004 116002000 327 1783 269 3 0 94 0 3 0 0 0 46304 292064 115996000 214 2398 257 2 0 97 0 0 0 0 0 45668 292164 116140800 046 1832 287 4 0 94 0 1 0 0 0 45420 292228 116134400 016 2635 269 1 0 97 0 1 Here is the page info from Perfkit. DASD page creeps up just as memory. Useridhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.001 Ownedhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.010 Readshttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.018 Writehttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.024 Stealshttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.030 2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.038 XMShttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.044 MSXhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.049 XDShttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.054 WSShttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.062 Resrvdhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.066 R2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.074 R2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.081 L2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.087 L2GBhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.094 XSTORhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.101 DASDhttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.109 Sizehttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.116 Usershttp://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/HE.04.122 LNX086http://10.30.7.11:81/01BD5EB8/6E72/USE.LNX086 .0 70.2 54.3 .0 .0 14.9 67.6 50.1 615164 0 71788 542585 4 40 69580 1134k 6144M Rob? Barton? Come on. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM
Check your zipl.conf file, make sure the boot drive is correct, and rerun zipl. Your error is not related to the memory issue, the kernel can't find the boot disk. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Magat, Martin Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM Hello I am not sure if this is the right forum to send this question, but kindly hoping someone has encountered the same error: When we gave a (SUSE) SLES9 zLinux guest a 50G memory (user direct entry modification), it failed to come up with the following messages: --- RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. VFS: Cannot open root device dasdd1 or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) 02: HCPGSP2629I The virtual machine is placed in CP mode due to a SIGP stop from CPU 01. --- But for a SLES10 to be given such a memory size, we have no problems. May I know if there are such 'memory caps' on SLES9 on z/VM? Many Thanks! Best Regards, Martin Magat - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM
Just saw Marcy's post on this, whenever you see competing answers between us, go with her!! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM Check your zipl.conf file, make sure the boot drive is correct, and rerun zipl. Your error is not related to the memory issue, the kernel can't find the boot disk. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Magat, Martin Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SLES9 zLinux on zVM Hello I am not sure if this is the right forum to send this question, but kindly hoping someone has encountered the same error: When we gave a (SUSE) SLES9 zLinux guest a 50G memory (user direct entry modification), it failed to come up with the following messages: --- RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. VFS: Cannot open root device dasdd1 or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) 02: HCPGSP2629I The virtual machine is placed in CP mode due to a SIGP stop from CPU 01. --- But for a SLES10 to be given such a memory size, we have no problems. May I know if there are such 'memory caps' on SLES9 on z/VM? Many Thanks! Best Regards, Martin Magat - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
AUTO IPL
UNCLE! I have searched the archives and read the manualI know this should be an easy one. My new ZVM 5.4 IPL stops at the SAPL screen and makes me press F10 to load. This is the existing one that work: Features , auto_ipl , /* No prompt at IPL */ cold ,/*perform cold start*/ drain , Disable , /* Disable the following features */ Set_Privclass , /* Disallow SET PRIVCLASS command */ LogMsg_From_File ,/* No LOGMSG from SYSTEM LOGMSG */ Clear_TDisk , /* Don't clear TDisks at IPL time */ Retrieve , /* Retrieve options */ Default 20 , /* Default default is 20 */ Maximum 255 ,/* Maximum default is 255 */ MaxUsers noLimit , /* No limit on number of users*/ Passwords_on_Cmds , /* What commands allow passwords? */ Autolog yes ,/* ... AUTOLOG does */ Link yes ,/* ... LINK does */ Logonyes /* ... and LOGON does, too*/ This NO work: requires F10 at SAPL Features , auto_ipl , /* No prompt at IPL */ cold ,/*perform cold start*/ drain , Disable , /* Disable the following features */ Set_Privclass , /* Disallow SET PRIVCLASS command */ Clear_TDisk , /* Don't clear TDisks at IPL time */ Retrieve , /* Retrieve options */ Default 20 , /* Default default is 20 */ Maximum 255 ,/* Maximum default is 255 */ MaxUsers noLimit , /* No limit on number of users*/ Passwords_on_Cmds , /* What commands allow passwords? */ Autolog yes ,/* ... AUTOLOG does */ Link yes ,/* ... LINK does */ Logonyes /* ... and LOGON does, too*/ David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: AUTO IPL
In HMC the LOADPARM is empty. OK, I have fixed? it. I have been doing a load from the HMC. I did an Activate instead and it worked. Subsequently load and activate are working. Any insight? Thanks as always. David Anything that is not a mystery is guesswork From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: AUTO IPL You can also enter CONS in the LOADPARM field, it will also bypass the SAPL screen, but pass CONS= to CP Example: CONSSYSG starts CP on the Integrated 3270 console 2009/12/14 Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.commailto:mike.wal...@hewitt.com David, What are the arguments on the HMC (or from 1st level when IPLing a 2nd level system) when you IPL? If you DO include an argument LOADPARM dev_addr, then the SALIPL screen will appear, requiring F10 to load the system. If you DO NOT include the LOADPARM dev_addr, an IPL should not display the SALIPL screen. Remember that when entering CP SHUTDOWN REIPL, the loadparms used during the previous IPL are used again (display them with: CP Q IPLPARMS). With CP SHUTDOWN REIPL you can specify many of the parms that are available in SALIPL. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.commailto:david_d...@bcbst.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 12/14/2009 10:20 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject AUTO IPL UNCLE! I have searched the archives and read the manual?.I know this should be an easy one. My new ZVM 5.4 IPL stops at the SAPL screen and makes me press F10 to load. This is the existing one that work: Features , auto_ipl , /* No prompt at IPL */ cold ,/*perform cold start*/ drain , Disable , /* Disable the following features */ Set_Privclass , /* Disallow SET PRIVCLASS command */ LogMsg_From_File ,/* No LOGMSG from SYSTEM LOGMSG */ Clear_TDisk , /* Don't clear TDisks at IPL time */ Retrieve , /* Retrieve options */ Default 20 , /* Default default is 20 */ Maximum 255 ,/* Maximum default is 255 */ MaxUsers noLimit , /* No limit on number of users*/ Passwords_on_Cmds , /* What commands allow passwords? */ Autolog yes ,/* ... AUTOLOG does */ Link yes ,/* ... LINK does */ Logonyes /* ... and LOGON does, too*/ This NO work: requires F10 at SAPL Features , auto_ipl , /* No prompt at IPL */ cold ,/*perform cold start*/ drain , Disable , /* Disable the following features */ Set_Privclass , /* Disallow SET PRIVCLASS command */ Clear_TDisk , /* Don't clear TDisks at IPL time */ Retrieve , /* Retrieve options */ Default 20 , /* Default default is 20 */ Maximum 255 ,/* Maximum default is 255 */ MaxUsers noLimit , /* No limit on number of users*/ Passwords_on_Cmds , /* What commands allow passwords? */ Autolog yes ,/* ... AUTOLOG does */ Link yes ,/* ... LINK does */ Logonyes /* ... and LOGON does, too*/ David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed
Re: Rookie question z/VM Linux vol and z/OS backup
Yes, can he not just do cpfmtxa and choose label? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:55 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Rookie question z/VM Linux vol and z/OS backup Yes, you can use CPFMTXA or ICKDSF (using CPVOL) and just format cylinder 0... we've had to do this a few times in the past. Scott On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Charles Grady charles.gr...@dol.state.ga.usmailto:charles.gr...@dol.state.ga.us wrote: OK. I have a z/VM vol that contains a 'full pack' mdisk for a linux guest. when trying to back up this vol from z/OS with DFDSS he complains about there not being a valid VTOC. IS there a way to just clip the VTOC to get the information in the right format and NOT distroy the data. The mdisk is cyl 0001-3337 on volid NLNX0A. Thanks. ** GDOL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This transmission may contain confidential information protected by state or federal law. The information is intended only for use consistent with the state business discussed in this transmission.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action based on the contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete this email and notify the sender immediately.Your cooperation is appreciated. ** - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
GUI out on zlinux DB2?
I'm upgrading our db2connect 8 to 9 and came across this tidbit. Note: In previous releases, the DB2 Administration Tools, such as the Control Center, were supported on all platforms. As of Version 9, the DB2 Administration Tools are supported only on Windows(r) x86, Windows x64 (AMD64/EM64T), Linux(tm) on x86, and Linux on AMD64/EM64T. For all platforms, you can use the DB2 command line processor (CLP) to administer instances and databases. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.db2.udb.uprun.doc/doc/t0024680.htm Huh? No zLinux. This is not exactly helping the rush to zLinux mainframe. We've been using zLinux DB2 since 2004 and I use it these tools all the time. And yes, I know it's GUI - so shoot me. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: zVM CPU allocation
Regarding the Share command... Apologize for the haphazard responses, I don't seem to be getting my zvm mail... -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Dean Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: zVM CPU allocation Don't know, good point, I did not know that. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: zVM CPU allocation
Thank you Now that you mention it, Rob has told me that in the past at a SHARE. I sincerely wish I could use zVPS...8( I will continue to not take reality - virtual or otherwise - seriously. Life is too important to be taken seriously - Oscar Wilde. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: zVM CPU allocation As Rob and Alan have less blatantly stated, Linux CPU numbers are bogus in a virtual environment. The CPU reporting problem has been corrected in ESALPS (now zVPS) for those that want to use linux numbers for anything useful. If you don't have a mechanism to correlate the linux cpu numbers to reality, then one would not want to take the virtual reality too serious David Dean wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:01:52 -0600, Alan Ackerman alan.acker...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Where are you getting the 99% number? Which version of Linux are you running? Older versions of Linux were fooled by the CPU being taken away and reported high values of CPU utilization in 'top' and elsewhere. If all the numbers are from PerfKit, they don't make sense. You cannot have 3 users running at 99% and have the 3 IFLs running at 10-15% each. Are you sure you are looking at the same time interval? If you are looking at both Linxu and VM tools, they may not match up. Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:17:26 -0500, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: OK, this is for all you guys that understand the magic tunnel in which CPU processing (usage) flows from an IFL to a zLinux server. We have a z10 running zVM 5.4 in a dedicated LPAR with 3 dedicated IFL's. We have approximately 30 zLinux servers. Using IBM PerfKit, I list all of the individual USER / zLinux CPU usages, each of which generally run in the 1 to 5 % range. These servers do of course peak higher but on average they are pretty low. We then take a look at the 3 IFL's and see usage of maybe 5% on each. Now, let's say we have a USER / server or two or three go berserk and peak CPU at 99 % for an extended period of time. We then look at the IFL CPU usages and all three have climbed to maybe 10 to 15% each. How did the CPU get allocated? Is it always spread evenly across the IFL's, is that a setting? Why, if there were 3 USER / servers running at 99%, was more CPU not allocated from the 3 IFL's? Why did the IFL's decide to allocate X amount and go no further. In the USER DIRECTORY I allocate storage but not CPU. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E- mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: zVM CPU allocation
less bogus? Now I feel better. Just kidding, I sincerely appreciate all the help I get from you guys. This mail list has been priceless. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: zVM CPU allocation As Rob and Alan have less blatantly stated, Linux CPU numbers are bogus in a virtual environment. However, with the addition of steal percentage (%st in top), the amount of CPU that is being stolen by the hipervisor, I believe many would agree that they are less bogus. Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061 - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
zVM CPU allocation
OK, this is for all you guys that understand the magic tunnel in which CPU processing (usage) flows from an IFL to a zLinux server. We have a z10 running zVM 5.4 in a dedicated LPAR with 3 dedicated IFL's. We have approximately 30 zLinux servers. Using IBM PerfKit, I list all of the individual USER / zLinux CPU usages, each of which generally run in the 1 to 5 % range. These servers do of course peak higher but on average they are pretty low. We then take a look at the 3 IFL's and see usage of maybe 5% on each. Now, let's say we have a USER / server or two or three go berserk and peak CPU at 99 % for an extended period of time. We then look at the IFL CPU usages and all three have climbed to maybe 10 to 15% each. How did the CPU get allocated? Is it always spread evenly across the IFL's, is that a setting? Why, if there were 3 USER / servers running at 99%, was more CPU not allocated from the 3 IFL's? Why did the IFL's decide to allocate X amount and go no further. In the USER DIRECTORY I allocate storage but not CPU. David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
DASD Service Date
Is there a command to see the date DASD was formatted? Or placed in service? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
DASD additions for zLinux
Is there anyway to get zVM to recognize new DASD for zLinux boxes WITHOUT a restart? In my current procedure, I add the DASD to zVM SYSTEM, CPFMTXA, add the lines to my USER DIRECTORY, and IPL the USER. I can then go to my zLinux box and add the space to my logical volume. A live SET command? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: DASD additions for zLinux
So the Linux box will suspend while I am doing the CP Link? That could be a prob...but it does beat an IPL. Thank you From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD additions for zLinux As soon as the entries are in the user directory, you can log on to the console of the Linux guest and issue #CP LINK * cuu cuu MR, and BEGIN (if the Linux guest stopped when you logged in. Linux will then detect the device and you can proceed. #CP DISC to disconnect and leave the Linux guest running. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DASD additions for zLinux Is there anyway to get zVM to recognize new DASD for zLinux boxes WITHOUT a restart? In my current procedure, I add the DASD to zVM SYSTEM, CPFMTXA, add the lines to my USER DIRECTORY, and IPL the USER. I can then go to my zLinux box and add the space to my logical volume. A live SET command? - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link
Yep, and if you have two controllers for failover to two OSA's this is a problem ... am I up or am I down? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Miguel Delapaz Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link Shimon, Stop the interface with IFCONFIG VSECM DOWN first. It turns out that IFCONFIG doesn't use the actual device status to decide whether an interface is UP or DOWN...it considers a device UP if it has usable routes (i.e. it can actually send traffic). We should probably change that :-) Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 08/23/2009 05:01:55 AM: Hi, I tried to use IFCONFIG to remove a link. According to the help file the interface must be inactive first. I assumed that an interface which is DOWN can be considered inactive, but apparently I was wrong: IFCONFIG VSECM VSECMINET ADDR: 10.1.5.2 P-T-P: 10.1.6.2 MASK: 255.0.0.0 DOWN BROADCAST MULTICAST POINTOPOINT MTU: 32760 VDEV: 0902 TYPE: CTC PORTNUMBER: 1 CPU: 0 FORWARDING: ENABLED RX BYTES: 0 TX BYTES: 1524 READY; T=0.13/0.14 14:51:26 IFCONFIG -SHOW VSECM -REMOVE DTCIFC2668E -REMOVE CANNOT BE SPECIFIED FOR AN ACTIVE INTERFACE READY(8); T=0.11/0.12 14:51:35 Can someone explain what else I need to do to remove this interface? Thanks, Shimon - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link
We had a situation where one of our OSA links died, but failover did not occur. It appeared to us that the zVM was not aware that the card was actually down. This seemed similar to what you were referencing. I could be wrong. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Miguel Delapaz Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link IFCONFIG doesn't display information about VSWITCHes or their controllers...so I'm not sure what you're referring to. Could you clarify? Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM Development Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com Yep, and if you have two controllers for failover to two OSA's this is a problem ... am I up or am I down? - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Virtual vs. Physical Memory in ZVM
HELP! Warning -the below is from an IBM rep, the name removed to protect the innocent(?). This is a portion of the analysis comparing real (physical) memory needs for zLinux guests versus AIX. The 2:1 ratio used below (in my humble opinion) is extreme overkill. I need the experts (you) to comment. The main disclaimer is that we have no way to determine whether the virtual memory requirements (which are used to calculate the real memory) would be significantly less on System z. In most cases they are. For example, 6GB is a pretty large Linux guest memory size for a WAS guest unless they are running super large Application HEAP spaces and / or are running multiple JVM's in each Linux guest. Nonetheless if we use a 2:1 Virtual to Real memory Ratio then we simply take all the guests add them up divide by 2 for the required real Central Storage, add in about 500 MB for VM and 2 GB for Expanded Storage. 5 - Linux Guests with DB2 at 6 GB Virtual = 30 GB Virtual 20 - Linux Guests with WAS at 6 GB Virtual = 120 GB Virtual - 150 GB Virtual / 2 = 75 GB Real + 500 MB Real + 2GB Real = 78GB Real David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: MP effect on z/VM Linux hosting
Me too! I am dying out here, I need METRICS! (see earlier post) David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MP effect on z/VM Linux hosting Can you email me that chart? Or is it paper? And thanks Alan A for that link. That helps. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] MP effect on z/VM Linux hosting interesting to try and locate the knee. I found a copy of the Reed Mullen chart I mentioned. On a z990, the MP effect for VM kicked in seriously at 14 processors for VM workload. For z/OS workload the MP effect became serious at 9 processors. I suspect that the z10 is a very different animal, but at least it's a baseline. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Virtual vs. Physical Memory in ZVM
Thank you, the problem however is exactly what you allude to, what size do they REALLY need to be. IBM is comparing WebSphere RAM needs between AIX, Windows, and zLinux. We have historical data that help us compare AIX needs to Windows needs, but no one is able to help us determine how that compares in zLinux land. Subsequently when an app comes along that specifies 8G in AIX or Windows people are making the leap to say that we will need 8G on zLinux...which is ludicrous...it is an apples to oranges comparison. Are there any studies, metrics, stats, whatever that anyone has that could help? Also, for this project I am referring to a heavy WebSphere / Java environment. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Virtual vs. Physical Memory in ZVM David, I don't think anything stated below is wrong. I would question whether you really need those guests to be 6G. Our WAS 6.1 guests range from 1G-8G, with the majority of them in between 1G and 2G. The overcommittment ratio you tolerate depends heavily on the robustness of your paging subsystem. It also depends on how idle/not idle they are. At one point we had about 100 servers, about 1/2 of them WAS on 24G of real, overcommitt of maybe 5:1. That was painful (and amazing that VM can page in the 10's of thousands per second). But it was test/dev. We wouldn't do that to production. At the moment, I'm looking at one test system that is 2.1:1 on 44G with 38 servers up on it. It is paging only a couple of hundred per second on average and hasn't gone higher than about 2500/sec today. No one is complaining. That one can probably go to 2.5:1 with no issues. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:47 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Virtual vs. Physical Memory in ZVM HELP! Warning -the below is from an IBM rep, the name removed to protect the innocent(?). This is a portion of the analysis comparing real (physical) memory needs for zLinux guests versus AIX. The 2:1 ratio used below (in my humble opinion) is extreme overkill. I need the experts (you) to comment. The main disclaimer is that we have no way to determine whether the virtual memory requirements (which are used to calculate the real memory) would be significantly less on System z. In most cases they are. For example, 6GB is a pretty large Linux guest memory size for a WAS guest unless they are running super large Application HEAP spaces and / or are running multiple JVM's in each Linux guest. Nonetheless if we use a 2:1 Virtual to Real memory Ratio then we simply take all the guests add them up divide by 2 for the required real Central Storage, add in about 500 MB for VM and 2 GB for Expanded Storage. 5 - Linux Guests with DB2 at 6 GB Virtual = 30 GB Virtual 20 - Linux Guests with WAS at 6 GB Virtual = 120 GB Virtual - 150 GB Virtual / 2 = 75 GB Real + 500 MB Real + 2GB Real = 78GB Real David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
PAV's
Is there a way by looking at the device numbers below to tell which is a PAV? I know how to go back and Q PAV the answer but is there any way to tell by looking, a way the numbers are generated that would tell me? 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 B01A L7601A 2 B0D4 L7601A 3 C31E L7602A 4 C395 L7602A 5 C41E L7603A 6 C4F2 L7603A 7 * * * End of File * * * David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: PAV's
I use PerfKit, is it in there somewhere - a summary? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PAV's a good performance too would tell you this. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Is there a way by looking at the device numbers below to tell which is a PAV? I know how to go back and Q PAV the answer but is there any way to tell by looking, a way the numbers are generated that would tell me? 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 B01A L7601A 2 B0D4 L7601A 3 C31E L7602A 4 C395 L7602A 5 C41E L7603A 6 C4F2 L7603A 7 * * * End of File * * * David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: omegamon
Thanks to all. After my brain began to work again I recalled that I had done this for perfkit, vswitch, etc., BUT since they all have templates available in the user directory, I guess it didn't stick to my 1970's college brain. This is the best list I have ever used. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: omegamon On Friday, 07/31/2009 at 11:29 EDT, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: I am installing zVM omegamon on my 5.4 system. Can anyone tell me why I have to create a NEW id called 5698A36B to install it, why I can?t use MAINT? I am linking the id to all the MAINT disks?. And, yes I will continue to read the manuals, but just hoped someone had some insight. To build on what John and Bill have said, every product has to have some place to store its data (base files, service updates, build lists, etc.). Decades ago it was decided that each product would have its own user ID created to store the data. Each product could have its own installation/service scheme (SES and the Shared File System hadn't been invented yet). Further, it is possible to have multiple releases of a single product installed, and each has its own set of files. Keeping them separate is much easier when the disks are owned by separate user IDs. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
omegamon
I am installing zVM omegamon on my 5.4 system. Can anyone tell me why I have to create a NEW id called 5698A36B to install it, why I can't use MAINT? I am linking the id to all the MAINT disks And, yes I will continue to read the manuals, but just hoped someone had some insight. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: CP Query wildcards
Thanks to all for the help. Please, Sir, I want some more. Oliver PIPE cp q dasd | zone w5 wildcard /VMA*/ | cons FPLSCB027E Entry point WILDCARD not found FPLMSG003I ... Issued from stage 2 of pipeline 1 FPLMSG001I ... Running zone w5 wildcard /VMA*/ Ready(-0027); T=0.01/0.01 14:20:12 David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards or PIPE cp q dasd | zone w5 wildcard /VMA*/ | cons;-) - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
CP Query wildcards
Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: CP Query wildcards
Can I have it? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Because the command syntax requires a DASD pack name. I once wrote an EXEC to perform what you are attempting to do. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: CP Query wildcards
Wow, thanks to all for the help!! David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? It's just an observation, not a rant against Unix. Actually, I LIKE Unix and wish we all made more use of OpenVM. So ... to make 'q dasd' work the way David expresses, that function would need to call some kind of globbing subfunction. Same thing for 'ifconfig' in Linux and Unix. We need normalized namespace globbing, something which can be used by commands which don't necessarily do files, commands which are part of non-Unix stuff (like the CP Nuc). This stuff has been implemented in C time and again. Too bad CP doesn't have a C runtime instantiated. Oh ... wait ... It does! :-) And now back to your regularly scheduled list traffic. -- R; On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:58, Dean, David (I/S)david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: [LINUX-390] DB2 Connect and Linux on Z
We have used db2 Connect on zLinux for several years. We recently upgraded to z10 from z9 and saw no changes. We also upgraded from 5.2 to 5.4 in the process. We do use hipersockets and a vswitch. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of James Olson (Services - 6) Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] DB2 Connect and Linux on Z I think I can clear my question a little. I have been told by the DB2 team that they believe they think they have read somewhere in the zOS 1.10 software and/or hardware engineering information that DB2 use of Hipersockets is different on the Z9 hardware (which we are on) compared to the Z10 hardware. = Jim Olson Dominion Resource Services, Inc Senior Software Engineer OSS - Operating System Support Phone: (804) 771-3456, Tie Line: 8-736-3456 Email: james.ol...@dom.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] DB2 Connect and Linux on Z On Wednesday, 06/10/2009 at 01:33 EDT, Tom Duerbusch thdbu...@swbell.net wrote: I don't think UDB uses zIIP engines. They use IFL engines. Performance seems to be good, especially over hipersockets. Boy, this conversation has taken an intresting turn. :-) The question is whether DB2 Connect on Linux on System z talking via DRDA to DB2 on z/OS across HiperSockets will enjoy the same zIIP benefit as the same DRDA transaction would receive when acccessed by some other host via OSA-Express. The advice the OP received that DB2 on z/OS would treat DRDA connections via HiperSockets differently than those made via OSA is suspect. First, I don't know how DB2 could tell the difference. Second, it doesn't make sense because packets could flow via HiperSockets OR via OSA on the same TCP connection! A call to the Support Center would clarify the issue. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: PERFSVM on VM54
Good step by step in Getting Started with Linux System z (SC24-6096-03) chapter 11. Includes web interface. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wilson, Roger Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PERFSVM on VM54 We just installed VM 5.4 and I am having problems getting to PERFSVM remotely. Any suggestions This is my profile exec TRACE OFF SET CMSTYPE HT GLOBAL MACLIB MAIN DMSGPI DMSOM CPLIB CP SET RUN ON CP SET EMSG ON CP SET RUN ON CP SET PF01 IMM VMCX PERFSVM CP SET PF02 IMM EXEC GETPERF CP SET PF04 IMM EXEC GETCICS CP SET PF03 IMM QUIT CP SET PF06 RETRIEVE BACKWARD CP SET PF07 IMM TRAN RDR ALL * PR CP SET PF08 IMM PUR RDR ALL CP SET PF09 IMM EXEC GETCICS CP SET PF10 IMM EXEC GETOPE CP SET PF11 IMM EXEC GETCOMP CP SET PF12 IMM #CP DISC CP SET 370ACCOM ON CP TAG DEV 00E A7C8 SET AUTOREAD OFF ACCESS 319 P ACCESS 545 H ACCESS 196 B ACCESS 432 G ACCESS 222 C ACCESS 333 S GLOBAL MACLIB MAIN DMSGPI DMSOM CPLIB GLOBAL DOSLIB PL82764 CP LINK 5VMPTK40 201 201 RR READ ACCESS 201 F CP LINK PERFRPT 193 546 RR RPASS ACCESS 546 I SET CMSTYPE RT SET RUN ON SET PF12 RETRIEVE PERFKIT - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Shared File System Interface
Two excellent explanations by Mr. Troth and Mr. Laflamme, they are right on. Thank you. The sad part is we set this scenario up to overcome POLITICAL boundaries between I/S fiefdoms and showcase the technologies. We do not do this in production. Some of the guys still tics. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:29 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Shared File System Interface Layers upon layers. Or ... airport hubs and multi-hop flights. You need to go from Nashville to Brimingham, but you're flying Delta. Well, Delta's hub is in Atlanta, so your trip will have a layover there. Might as well drive! Maybe you got a new office. You're spartan enough, so you can haul your stuff within the same building. Oh ... but there's a contract with some facility manglement firm, so you have to pay $300 for them to do it ... just because. And you have to wait. In this case, NFS brings more overhead. LOTS more. (Disclosure: I use NFS ... A LOT ... but I also know there are times one should not use it.) Using NFS to give Linux access to SFS files is ... like that Atlanta layover. Overhead makes z people ... well, twichy. (Some z people and other systems programmers actually shudder at wasteful overhead, though I that the concept is of no concern to ... er, uh ... Agile programmers.) (Ooohhh... I may have hit a nerve with that jab.) -- R; On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Gary M. Dennis gary.den...@mantissa.com wrote: Twitchy - is a squirrel and best friend of Wolf W. Wolf in Hoodwinked. twitchy as used below makes me, well Twitchy. Could you elaborate on why use of SFS via NFS Sort of makes the z guys twitchy --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis Mantissa Corporation On 5/1/09 7:39 AM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Yep. Then you can Samba out the NFS to window's boxes and have a really nice file server. Sort of makes the z guys twitchy though. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:15 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Shared File System Interface On Wednesday, 04/29/2009 at 01:06 EDT, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: Nope, afraid notbut it would be way cool if Linux, as a guest of z/VM, could read/write SFS directories and files. It can. It just needs to use NFS to do it. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
OK, so now instead of reading some we will read nothing. After you have done something 20 times you do not need a 3000 page manual, you need something quick. I vote to keep them. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Please tell me I did something stupid On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) BOO! HISS!!! I will *read* a one page guide. Although I will apparently SKIP WHOLE STEPS, like INSTVM DVD. a 300 page manual? Not so much. So, any idea why the DOSINST and CMSDOS segments didn't want to rebuild (I stupidly had CF1 accessed and was screwing around with SYSTEM CONFIG while PUT2PROD was running, so I had to rebuild CMS and all the segments the old-fashioned way)? I seem to recall this failing before sometime. I don't think I've ever actually used those segments, so I doubt it matters. Adam - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing
What is the difference between a computer salesman and a used car salesman? The car salesman knows when he's lying. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Life is too important to be taken seriously -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Robert J Brenneman bren...@gmail.com wrote: There is most definitely a MP factor with IFLs, just like there is with CPs, and just like there is with every other SMP architecture that exists today. There is no significant difference between an IFL and a ***full speed*** CP when it comes to the MP effect and capacity planning. The sentence resembles the tests at school where you have to put words on the dots to make it a correct statement. Maybe IBM marketing folks were unable to finish that one. And I can see why... I have seen a similar statement with zAAP sizing. If z/OS is indeed such that management of those processors runs on the zAAPs itself, then you could conclude that adding zAAPs to your configuration does not increase the MP overhead in z/OS itself as when you added real CPs. But the thing that *is* relevant to z/OS shops is that adding IFLs to their CP-only machine (to run z/VM and Linux) does not increase the MP effect in z/OS. Adding 10 IFLs does not slow down your 10 CPs running z/OS (apart from low level hardware effects like sharing the bus and cache with twice as many processors). My guess is that the person writing that sentence wanted to clarify this part. But your guess is a good as mine. Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Perfkit setup on 5.2 upgrade to 5.4
We are upgrading zvm 5.2 to 5.4. I am configuring Perfkit to match the 5.2 setup including web interface. When I run Profile I get the following error: FCXBAS500I Performance Toolkit for VM FL540 FCXAUT406E Invalid authorization 'PERFSVM' for user VM54PROD at * (File: FCONRMT AUTHORIZ *) ( 2: '* VM54PROD PERFSVM CMD') Monitor event started -- recording is activated Monitor sample started -- recording is activated Here is my FCONRMT AUTHORIZ file: 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 VM54PROD PERFSVM SFSERV CMD DATA 2 * VM54PROD PERFSVM CMD 3 VM54PROD * DATA 4 * * * End of File * * * Why is it reading Line 0002 at all? Thank you David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Life is too important to be taken seriously - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: FTP over HiperSockets network
Alan, we put ours in the individual user definition. It works. Should we have put it under TCPIP as you stated below, and what's the dif? Thanks. USER LNX052 PGDN52 768M 768M INCLUDE LINDFLT DEDICATE ED09 ED09 DEDICATE ED0A ED0A DEDICATE ED0B ED0B David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:02 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FTP over HiperSockets network On Friday, 01/23/2009 at 12:20 EST, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: Is anyone running FTP on z/VM connecting to FTP server on z/OS over a HiperSockets network? If so can you share with me the steps to take to get this working? The general sequence is: 1. Define a HiperSocket chpid and subchannels. Give the z/VM partition access to three of them (at least) and bring them online. 2. Add DEDICATE statements for the three subchannels to TCPIP's directory entry. 3. Add DEVICE/LINK/HOME/START statements to PROFILE TCPIP. The IFCONFIG command can assist you if you're uncertain about the statements you need. But don't take my word for it! Take a gander at the often-ignored and always-overlooked z/VM Connectivity book in the z/VM library. ;-) Please note that there is an error on p.82 IODEVICE ...,UNIT=IDQ USERPRM=(parmname,OS_num) is incorrect. It should read IODEVICE ...,UNIT=IDQ,CHPARM=(code) where (code) has the OS values in the table. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: FTP over HiperSockets network
Got it, thanks. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FTP over HiperSockets network On 1/23/2009 at 11:12 AM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Alan, we put ours in the individual user definition. It works. Should we have put it under TCPIP as you stated below, and what's the dif? Terry wants to use it from z/VM, not Linux. So, the devices need to be given to TCP/IP. Mark Post - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
zvm 5.2 storage limits, zlinux?
We have a virtual zLinux SUSE 10.1 file server on zVM 5.2 that currently supplies over 600 Gigs of DASD (SAMBA 3 file storage) to end users. Is there a point (technical or logical) when we should build a second server rather than continuing to grow this server? Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Flashcopy
Does Flashcopy take care of open file issues, any way around quiecing? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Flashcopy Worked! Thanks very much, Steve. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steve Wilkins wilki...@us.ibm.com wrote: I looked at the code real quick :- it looks like you'll have to VARY OFF then back ON the 2 real volumes that back B28A B28B to refresh the field being checked. Sorry. Do this with the VM/CP VARY command. Steve Wilkins IBM VM Development z/VM I/O Strategy Inactive hide details for Mark Pace ---01/14/2009 01:59:18 PM---I just activated the license on our DS8100 for Point-in-time CoMark Pace ---01/14/2009 01:59:18 PM---I just activated the license on our DS8100 for Point-in-time Copy. But I'm having a problem. From: Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 01/14/2009 01:59 PM Subject: Flashcopy I just activated the license on our DS8100 for Point-in-time Copy. But I'm having a problem. flashcopy b28a 0 b28b 0 HCPNFC332E Invalid control unit type - B28A Ready(00332); T=0.01/0.01 13:52:00 So I thought maybe something needed to change some definition in the DS8100. I searched and searched and found nothing. I searched IBMLink and did not find anything for the HCPNFC332E error. So on a whim I decided to try it on my z/VSE guest that is running under this VM. ixfp snap,syswk1:vsewk1 AR+0015 IXFP23D SNAP FROM CUU=286 CYL='' TO CUU=284 CYL='' NCYL='0D0B' - REPLY 'YES' TO PROCEED 15 yes AR 0028 1H09I OPER INFO SYSXXX=286 AR 0028 SUBSYSTEM STATUS CHANGE: FL-COPY RELATION ESTABLISHED AR 0028 1H09I OPER INFO SYSXXX=284 AR 0028 SUBSYSTEM STATUS CHANGE: FL-COPY RELATION ESTABLISHED AR 0015 IXFP22I SNAP TO CUU= 284 STARTED AT 18:39:28 GMT 01/14/2009 AR 0015 IXFP20I SNAP FUNCTION COMPLETED AT 18:39:28 GMT 01/14/2009 AR 0015 1I40I READY AR 0028 1H09I OPER INFO SYSXXX=284 AR 0028 SUBSYSTEM STATUS CHANGE: FL-COPY RELATION TERMINATED AR 0028 1H09I OPER INFO SYSXXX=286 AR 0028 SUBSYSTEM STATUS CHANGE: FL-COPY RELATION TERMINATED Worked perfectly. So now I have to wonder why it does not work in z/VM. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Flashcopy
What about my 99.9% uptime? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Flashcopy On Wednesday, 01/14/2009 at 02:51 EST, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Does Flashcopy take care of ?open file? issues, any way around quiecing? Flashcopy is a way to copy disk content. If it isn't on the disk, it doesn't get copied. As a consequence, you need to get the data out of memory and onto the disk. The best way to do that is to shut down the app and the server, flashcopy all the disks, restart the server and app. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Secure FTP
Between LPARS we use hipersockets, that way the data never hits the corporate LAN. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Secure FTP Hi I am trying to figure out how to set up Secure FTP on z/VM so that I can send data from my z/VM LPARS to my z/OS LPARS. Mostly I want to get my z/VM z/Linux performance data over to my capacity folks on the z/OS for reporting. I am not sure how to go about setting Secure FTP up on z/VM. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Clean up the spool
Thank you, yes, this is exactly the information I wanted. I would be very interested in more information, if this redundant information for this list, you can send me info offline. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Clean up the spool Hello, David. Yes, you can get into trouble deleting some types of spool files CP uses the spool space to hold a number of different types of files: 1) the guest virtual machines' RDR, PRT and PUN spool files 2) spooled virtual machine console log files 3) DCSS (shared executable code libraries, like LE, and data areas, like MONDCSSS) 4) NSS (shared ipl-able operating systems and utilities) 5) National Languages support files (German, Kanji, American English, etc.) 6) VM and CP dump files There are other types of spool files, but they are seldom employed in today's VM systems. Generally, as a rule, you want to limit your spool file cleaning task to only the virtual machines' RDR/PRT/PUN files and the console log files. Deleting DCSSes and/or NSSes can cause virtual guest failures of different types.e.g., deleting the CMS NSS will cause virtual machines that issue an IPL CMS command to fail, because CP can not locate the CMS NSS. Deleting the MONDCSS means that you will not be able to collect CP performance data, as CP will not have any place to put it. It is possible to recreate such DCSS and NSS spool files, but it's something of a pain. Drop the list a note if you'd like further details on the spool space and what files it holds. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: And what are the dangers? I know what spool files do technically, but am not comfortable with what kind of data resides there. Will I get in trouble deleting spool files? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Clean up the spool Hi My spool is getting a little to big and I want to clean it up. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? Is there a command to clear files from the spool?. Asked as a 'new-be' but getting there!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Clean up the spool
And what are the dangers? I know what spool files do technically, but am not comfortable with what kind of data resides there. Will I get in trouble deleting spool files? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Clean up the spool Hi My spool is getting a little to big and I want to clean it up. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? Is there a command to clear files from the spool?. Asked as a 'new-be' but getting there!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
CPFMTXA Multiple drives
When building new Linux boxes, I have to format several drives. I normally log as Maint and do them one at a time. Is there a way to do multiple drives simultaneously, or log to Maint sessions multiple times? Any ideas as always are greatly appreciated. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z
The Novell site can be very particular. I, too, use Mozilla / Firefox 3 successfully, but only when the Novell site deems me worthy. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z I use IE7 or Firefox 3. Both seem to work acceptably. Safari works too, but the other two are more common. On 11/17/08 7:53 PM, Raymond Noal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, What do you recommend someone use to download files from the Novell site for zSeries Linux files? I've tried MS Internet Explorer and Mozilla/FireFox and neither of them works. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Slow SSH response
Are any Windows Servers involved? MS just rolled out a bunch of RPC patches that disconnected all of our zLinux and AIX SAMBA servers from the network; messed up something with WINS / DNS. We had to add the servers back to the domains, even the ones that were on separate SAMBA domains, but that were accessing the windows DNS boxes. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Slow SSH response Do the guests have correctly configured nameservers? I've seen ssh be really slow while it tries to do a lookup on the connecting IP if there's a nameserver timeout. For the Record: This process has worked for nearly a year w/o any incident. Yesterday was the first noted failure and there were two. As my luck is running today, the linux admin is out today. I'll need to verify the DNS issue w/him tomorrow. I'm fairly confident DNS issues are not the culprit here. 20+ other guests did not experience a similar issue. Thanks for the thought, but I can't verify yes or not until tomorrow. Steve Mitchell Sr Systems Software Specialist Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas (785) 291-8885 'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest or you're not! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential, trade secret or privileged information. Any unauthorized review use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: migrate 5.2 to 5.4
No 51D maybe? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: migrate 5.2 to 5.4 Help. I am upgrading 5.2 to 5.4 utilizing Guide for Automated Installation and Service version 5 release 4 - being a rookie, I am going BY THE BOOK. Everything is good so far to the migrate section, I have run migsetup, miglink, ipl'ed, logged on as maint. Here is my prob Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:20:05 ident MAINTAT ZVMV5R40 VIA *11/04/08 09:28:31 EST TUESDAY Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:28:31 q accessed Mode Stat Files Vdev Label/Directory A R/W34 191 MNT191 C R/W 1093 193 MNT193 S R/O 691 190 MNT190 Y/SR/O 1021 19E MNT19E Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:28:43 migrate all 5.2 Unknown CP/CMS command Thanks in advance David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: migrate 5.2 to 5.4
OK, went back through it step by step and it worked. User error. Computers are very unforgiving little beasts. Thanks for the replies. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: migrate 5.2 to 5.4 No 51D maybe? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: migrate 5.2 to 5.4 Help. I am upgrading 5.2 to 5.4 utilizing Guide for Automated Installation and Service version 5 release 4 - being a rookie, I am going BY THE BOOK. Everything is good so far to the migrate section, I have run migsetup, miglink, ipl'ed, logged on as maint. Here is my prob Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:20:05 ident MAINTAT ZVMV5R40 VIA *11/04/08 09:28:31 EST TUESDAY Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:28:31 q accessed Mode Stat Files Vdev Label/Directory A R/W34 191 MNT191 C R/W 1093 193 MNT193 S R/O 691 190 MNT190 Y/SR/O 1021 19E MNT19E Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:28:43 migrate all 5.2 Unknown CP/CMS command Thanks in advance David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Value added by z/VM versus VMWARE
Why would anyone want to take a cherry pie and spread crap on top? No offense intended. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:59 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Value added by z/VM versus VMWARE If z/VM supported virtual x86 systems, that support would make the platforms extremely competitive and, potentially, cause a sea change in the source of computing resource for x86. Considering the average CPU utilization for x86 desktop systems (less than 15% by some estimates), such support could make for a good match; guest systems that do practically nothing and a virtualization system with a remarkable ability to allocate resources among a large number of guests. On 11/2/08 2:12 PM, Paul Raulerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what confuses me- the two platforms, mainframe and x86 are hardly competitive to each other. --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
migrate 5.2 to 5.4
Help. I am upgrading 5.2 to 5.4 utilizing Guide for Automated Installation and Service version 5 release 4 - being a rookie, I am going BY THE BOOK. Everything is good so far to the migrate section, I have run migsetup, miglink, ipl'ed, logged on as maint. Here is my prob Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:20:05 ident MAINTAT ZVMV5R40 VIA *11/04/08 09:28:31 EST TUESDAY Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:28:31 q accessed Mode Stat Files Vdev Label/Directory A R/W34 191 MNT191 C R/W 1093 193 MNT193 S R/O 691 190 MNT190 Y/SR/O 1021 19E MNT19E Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:28:43 migrate all 5.2 Unknown CP/CMS command Thanks in advance David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4
We have the Big Bang theorists and the Creationists (Die and come back). This is going to be a long thread... David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4 Marcy Cortes wrote: I'm a fan of the big bang method myself. It's always worked well for us. I like knowing that what I'm running is what IBM actually ran for an extended period of time. Just my 2 cents. Marcy Yeah, it's always worked for me too. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question
Small thing, we back up all of our drives, including 200's, through MVS and then do the Linux minidisks through TSM. This allows us the ability to easily retrieve individual files, but the MVS DASD backups are the way to go when a Linux box goes belly up. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Linux guest 191/200 disk question Hello all. We're bouncing around an idea to change the way we allocate Linux guests. Currently, we have a mdisk that has all of the Linux 191 disks on. We then have separate 200 disks (mod9's). We're thinking of combining the two, such that we have a 1 cylinder 191 mdisk, then 10015 cylinders for the 200 disks. This would allow us to move the linuxes from one lpar to another as needed. It would also make them more self-contained. We're facing a dasd upgrade in the near future, and this would make that a little easier. Other than the fact that the 200 disk is backed up by TSM and the 191's via MVS's FDR, can you guys shoot some holes in this theory? Let me know if you see any other problem areas that I haven't thought of? Thanks! MA Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
Me either, she is exactly right, which shows as soon as I go to the next screen Again, thanks all. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Well, I'm certainly not going to argue with Carol! But the Description column on the MIGR51D EXEC could have been a little clearer, maybe something like: Description of Previous Components -- Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Dean, David (I/S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/23/2008 12:50 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Ready(00099); T=0.14/0.15 13:42:54 listfile migr51d * * (iso FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME MIGR51D EXEC W2 V 63146 2 2008-06-10 07:25:47 MIGR51D HELPINST W1 V 71114 2 2003-05-28 08:15:06 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:43:19 LISTFILE MIGRATE $RESTART * (ISO DMSLST002E File not found Ready(00028); T=0.01/0.01 13:44:50 LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 34193-01 31307 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80330 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 61448-50452 900 MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 305 1574-34 3106 4680 151D 151D L R/W26 3390 4096 280 1199-26 3481 4680 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 18000 MNT493 493 W R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 30060 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 45000 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:46:31 Apparently no restart file. Thank you very much. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Since thus far there no replies I'll take a stab at helping. Could you issue and post the replies to the following commands: LISTFILE MIGR51D * * (ISO LISTFILE MIGRATE $RESTART * (ISO TYPE MIGRATE $RESTART * Q DISK Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Dean, David (I/S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/23/2008 12:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Ok, I am to the point of running MIGR51. Here is my first screen. It looks to me like it wants to install 5.2 components instead of 5.4. I have accessed a minidisk (L) as 151D with a copy of the OLD 51D. When MIGR51D asks me for the existing system?s mode I choose L. Help? Thanks. M NCP 5648063L NONE ACF/NCP V7R8M1 D AVS 5VMAVS20 APPLIED AVS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CMS 5VMCMS20 APPLIED CMS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CP 5VMCPR20 APPLIED CP component for Z/VM 5.2.0 D DIRM 5VMDIR10 BUILT Install/service DirMaint using minidisk D DV 5VMDVF20 APPLIED DV component for z/VM 5.2.0 D GCS 5VMGCS20 APPLIED GCS component for z/VM 5.2.0 David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Yes Thanks From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 And just to be safe, link to it RR Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Put a Link statement in the first level ID as 151D or any other free DASD address. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm The information contained
Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
Ok, I am to the point of running MIGR51. Here is my first screen. It looks to me like it wants to install 5.2 components instead of 5.4. I have accessed a minidisk (L) as 151D with a copy of the OLD 51D. When MIGR51D asks me for the existing system's mode I choose L. Help? Thanks. M NCP 5648063L NONE ACF/NCP V7R8M1 D AVS 5VMAVS20 APPLIED AVS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CMS 5VMCMS20 APPLIED CMS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CP 5VMCPR20 APPLIED CP component for Z/VM 5.2.0 D DIRM 5VMDIR10 BUILT Install/service DirMaint using minidisk D DV 5VMDVF20 APPLIED DV component for z/VM 5.2.0 D GCS 5VMGCS20 APPLIED GCS component for z/VM 5.2.0 David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Yes Thanks From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 And just to be safe, link to it RR Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Put a Link statement in the first level ID as 151D or any other free DASD address. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
Ok, I am to the point of running MIGR51. Here is my first screen. It looks to me like it wants to install 5.2 components instead of 5.4. I have accessed a minidisk (L) as 151D with a copy of the OLD 51D. When MIGR51D asks me for the existing system's mode I choose L. Help? Thanks. M NCP 5648063L NONE ACF/NCP V7R8M1 D AVS 5VMAVS20 APPLIED AVS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CMS 5VMCMS20 APPLIED CMS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CP 5VMCPR20 APPLIED CP component for Z/VM 5.2.0 D DIRM 5VMDIR10 BUILT Install/service DirMaint using minidisk D DV 5VMDVF20 APPLIED DV component for z/VM 5.2.0 D GCS 5VMGCS20 APPLIED GCS component for z/VM 5.2.0 David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Yes Thanks From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 And just to be safe, link to it RR Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Put a Link statement in the first level ID as 151D or any other free DASD address. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
I apologize, I may have posted twice. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Since thus far there no replies I'll take a stab at helping. Could you issue and post the replies to the following commands: LISTFILE MIGR51D * * (ISO LISTFILE MIGRATE $RESTART * (ISO TYPE MIGRATE $RESTART * Q DISK Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Dean, David (I/S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/23/2008 12:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Ok, I am to the point of running MIGR51. Here is my first screen. It looks to me like it wants to install 5.2 components instead of 5.4. I have accessed a minidisk (L) as 151D with a copy of the OLD 51D. When MIGR51D asks me for the existing system's mode I choose L. Help? Thanks. M NCP 5648063L NONE ACF/NCP V7R8M1 D AVS 5VMAVS20 APPLIED AVS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CMS 5VMCMS20 APPLIED CMS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CP 5VMCPR20 APPLIED CP component for Z/VM 5.2.0 D DIRM 5VMDIR10 BUILT Install/service DirMaint using minidisk D DV 5VMDVF20 APPLIED DV component for z/VM 5.2.0 D GCS 5VMGCS20 APPLIED GCS component for z/VM 5.2.0 David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Yes Thanks From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 And just to be safe, link to it RR Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Put a Link statement in the first level ID as 151D or any other free DASD address. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
Ready(00099); T=0.14/0.15 13:42:54 listfile migr51d * * (iso FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME MIGR51D EXEC W2 V 63146 2 2008-06-10 07:25:47 MIGR51D HELPINST W1 V 71114 2 2003-05-28 08:15:06 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:43:19 LISTFILE MIGRATE $RESTART * (ISO DMSLST002E File not found Ready(00028); T=0.01/0.01 13:44:50 LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 34193-01 31307 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80330 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 61448-50452 900 MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 305 1574-34 3106 4680 151D 151D L R/W26 3390 4096 280 1199-26 3481 4680 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 18000 MNT493 493 W R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 30060 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 45000 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:46:31 Apparently no restart file. Thank you very much. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Since thus far there no replies I'll take a stab at helping. Could you issue and post the replies to the following commands: LISTFILE MIGR51D * * (ISO LISTFILE MIGRATE $RESTART * (ISO TYPE MIGRATE $RESTART * Q DISK Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Dean, David (I/S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/23/2008 12:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Ok, I am to the point of running MIGR51. Here is my first screen. It looks to me like it wants to install 5.2 components instead of 5.4. I have accessed a minidisk (L) as 151D with a copy of the OLD 51D. When MIGR51D asks me for the existing system's mode I choose L. Help? Thanks. M NCP 5648063L NONE ACF/NCP V7R8M1 D AVS 5VMAVS20 APPLIED AVS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CMS 5VMCMS20 APPLIED CMS component for z/VM 5.2.0 D CP 5VMCPR20 APPLIED CP component for Z/VM 5.2.0 D DIRM 5VMDIR10 BUILT Install/service DirMaint using minidisk D DV 5VMDVF20 APPLIED DV component for z/VM 5.2.0 D GCS 5VMGCS20 APPLIED GCS component for z/VM 5.2.0 David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Yes Thanks From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 And just to be safe, link to it RR Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Put a Link statement in the first level ID as 151D or any other free DASD address. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You
Re: Very Slow Linux Running Second Level z/VM
Absolutely forget 2nd level for anything Linux wise beyond testing. David Dean Information Systems BCBST Tennessee *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Very Slow Linux Running Second Level z/VM We had the 'exact' problem at our DR test in 07. After much research and discussion it was determined 'virtualization' beyond the 2nd level is not going to preform well. I believe thats what Rob is explaining. This year we ran our linux guest on their VM system. Ran GREAT! I believe there was a presentation at SHARE in Aug on this very topic. Steve Mitchell Sr Systems Software Specialist Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas (785) 291-8885 'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest or you're not! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential, trade secret or privileged information. Any unauthorized review use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
This is my first complete migration. I have created a second level 5.4 instance, and have run the RSU service and put2prod. Everything has gone well. I am using the Guide for Automated Installation and Service for 5.4. I know this is a rookie question; I promise I have searched the archives. BUT, how do I link to the old 51D on a separate 2nd Second Level System for migration? Thanks in advance. This list is unbelievable. David Dean Information Systems BlueCross and BlueShield of Tennessee *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4
Thanks all. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Yes Thanks From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 And just to be safe, link to it RR Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from 5.2 to 5.4 Put a Link statement in the first level ID as 151D or any other free DASD address. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
ZVM Linux losing WINS
We have Novell 10.2 zLinux on 5.2 ZVM running a SAMBA domain controller handling authorization. This centralized authorization hands out SAMBA shares on multiple zLinux servers as well as several AIX servers. Communication from the zLinux box is through a vswitch setup on the ZVM. This has worked well for several years now. In the past couple of weeks our Windows network infrastructure has begun to lose our SAMBA servers and we are having to hard code names into the WINS database on the Windows WINS server (I am not on that side of the house, so I do not really know how that piece is accomplished). Although the opinion is that the problem resides in the Windows Networking, I want to cover all bases, and wondered if anyone has experienced anything like this. The windows boxes are patched on a weekly basis. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: z/VM 5.2.0 on z10
Bank of America...and management drives a 10 year old Ford for stability, right? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2.0 on z10 Thank you for your suggestions of reasons to run 5.3.0 and 5.4.0. I had already presented them to management, but I have been instructed to use 5.2.0. My only hope of changing management's mind is to give him reasons NOT to use 5.2.0. Reasons to use the newer releases have not been persuasive. We're just starting a POC, so we have no good information on workload requirements. There's nothing in 5.3.0 or 5.4.0 that we MUST have. That means no requirement for link aggregation, for example. To put this in political terms, we're past Vote for me, I'm a better candidate. I need Vote against my opponent, because he's an extremist. The end-of-service date for 5.2.0 is not sufficient for vote against. By the way, I'm sad to say that an SF Bay Area congresswoman ran on, My opponent is an extremist a few years ago. She won. Dennis A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away. -- Barry Goldwater -Original Message- Is anyone running z/VM 5.2.0 on a z10? I know it's supported (with PTF's). I want to know if customers are actually running it. My management wants us to build some new systems to host Linux guests on z/VM 5.2.0, even though most of our other systems are on 5.3.0. They want stability, and one of the ways they attempt to get stability is by staying behind and hoping other sites will find problems first. I'm concerned that if we're the only ones running the combination of z/VM 5.2.0 and z10, that we will find those problems first. Dennis O'Brien We are Borg of America. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Boulder Outage
Someone from UTK can spell TCPIP? David Dean UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSE KNOXVILLE, CLASS OF 1979. *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Scollard Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Boulder Outage Greetings, The problems in Boulder also seem to be affecting ptf.boulder.ibm.com as I have not been able to connect to that ftp site all afternoon. Guess I didn't need that TCPIP fix after all! :) Larry Scollard University of Tennessee, Knoxville Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch
Yes, where will I find the message? Will it show in perfkit exceptions? Thanks, Marcy, this has been an issue for us. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch Does that include fiber that got unhooked at the patch panel or just HW problems on the OSA? I'll have to go looking for that message since we are on 5.4 It would be nice if the Q VSWITCH command told you when a link wasn't really operational (I see it does in LACP group, which is nice!). Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Ellen Carollo Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch Marcy - z/VM 5.4.0 added support to monitor VSWITCH backup OSAs. If there is a = problem message HCP2845I will be issued indicating the device number and = the VSWITCH name. Mary Ellen Carollo z/VM Networking Development On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:10 -0500, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are folks monitoring their backup osa's on the vswitch? How do you know they haven't lost connectivity and won't be there when you need it?= (asking because, well, yeah, that can happen :) Marcy Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: DASD PAV's
Thank you, Dennis HCPDTS6866E Device CE32 cannot be detached from the system because HCPDTS6866E it is a base Parallel Access Volume for which one or HCPDTS6866E more alias volumes are attached to the system. When I attempt to attach drives to my second level zvm. I do a q pav xxx, get a list and detach them. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD PAV's David, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do. Are you using dedicated DASD or minidisks for your guests? If you're using dedicated DASD, take the volsers in question out of the User_Volume_Include list in SYSTEM CONFIG. This will leave the volumes FREE at IPL time instead of attached to SYSTEM. You can then attach them to guests, or better yet, put them in the directory entries for the guests so that they're attached automatically when the guest logs on. Aliases should be defined on DASDOPT statements that immediately follow the DEDICATE statements for the base devices. If you're using minidisks, leave the base and alias volumes attached to SYSTEM. Add DASDOPT or MINIOPT statements immediately after the MDISK statements for the base devices. DASDOPT is use for full-pack minidisks, and MINIOPT for non-full-pack minidisks. Since you say the aliases are attached, I presume you're not using HyperPAV. HyperPAV aliases are normally FREE, not attached. Dennis O'Brien We are Borg of America. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 06:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] DASD PAV's I apologize if this is not the correct forum for this question. We have recently been upgrading systems for our coming move to z10. This includes MVS 1.9, and zVM 5.4. Now when we IPL we get all these Parallel Access Volumes attached to the DASD that I have to detach individually before I can attach them to a second level system. Any help? Thank you David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: DASD PAV's
Wow, thanks. Do you know why this started; is this a new feature with our recent upgrades to zvm54 or mvs19? This is a new phenomena. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD PAV's And now that I see the Q PAV command .. that's probably even easier to use to write a little code and detach the pavs.. Q DASD DETAILS works - but I was using it because I was after the sizes as well (I like being able to tell if it's a 3390-3, 9, 27, whatever) Scott Rohling On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a code snippet I use to see the DASD on the system, see the sizes, and also see if they are a PAV base or alias: /* Show DASD on system, with sizes, etc */ Address Command 'PIPE CP Q DASD | STEM DASD.' Do i = 1 to dasd.0 Parse VAR dasd.i . daddr . duser dvol dnum . 'PIPE CP Q DASD DETAILS' daddr '| STEM DD.' Parse VAR dd.1 . 'CYLS =' dsize . Parse VAR dd.7 . ':' pav . Say daddr left(dvol,6) left(dsize,8) pav End Here's an example of what it spits out: 6029 LT6029 10017BASE 602A LT602A 10017BASE 602B LT602B 10017BASE 602C LT602C 10017BASE 602D LT602D 10017BASE 6076 LT602D 10017ALIAS 6077 LT602D 10017ALIAS 6078 LT602D 10017ALIAS You could use this and modify it to detach PAV aliases if it would help (put it before the 'Say') : If pav = 'ALIAS' then 'CP DETACH' daddr 'SYSTEM' Now whether you really want to detach all PAV aliases is another story .. So here's something you can pass a volume id to: /* Detach any PAV aliases using volid passed */ Address Command Arg volid 'PIPE CP Q DASD' volid '| STEM DASD.' If rc 0 Then Exit rc Do i = 1 to dasd.0 Parse VAR dasd.i . daddr . duser dvol dnum . 'PIPE CP Q DASD DETAILS' daddr '| STEM DD.' Parse VAR dd.7 . ':' pav . If pav = 'ALIAS' then 'CP DETACH' daddr 'SYSTEM' End Hope that helps - Scott Rohling On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Dean, David (I/S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Dennis HCPDTS6866E Device CE32 cannot be detached from the system because HCPDTS6866E it is a base Parallel Access Volume for which one or HCPDTS6866E more alias volumes are attached to the system. When I attempt to attach drives to my second level zvm. I do a q pav xxx, get a list and detach them. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD PAV's David, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do. Are you using dedicated DASD or minidisks for your guests? If you're using dedicated DASD, take the volsers in question out of the User_Volume_Include list in SYSTEM CONFIG. This will leave the volumes FREE at IPL time instead of attached to SYSTEM. You can then attach them to guests, or better yet, put them in the directory entries for the guests so that they're attached automatically when the guest logs on. Aliases should be defined on DASDOPT statements that immediately follow the DEDICATE statements for the base devices. If you're using minidisks, leave the base and alias volumes attached to SYSTEM. Add DASDOPT or MINIOPT statements immediately after the MDISK statements for the base devices. DASDOPT is use for full-pack minidisks, and MINIOPT for non-full-pack minidisks. Since you say the aliases are attached, I presume you're not using HyperPAV. HyperPAV aliases are normally FREE, not attached. Dennis O'Brien We are Borg of America. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 06:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] DASD PAV's I apologize if this is not the correct forum for this question. We have recently been upgrading systems for our coming move to z10. This includes MVS 1.9, and zVM 5.4. Now when we IPL we get all these Parallel Access Volumes attached to the DASD that I have to detach individually before I can attach them to a second level system. Any help? Thank you David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com
Re: Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch
Got to agree with Marcy. We monitored ours through q vswitch and it always showed the backup. But when the Primary went down David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:35 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch Not so sure about that. I couldn't find any messages about the loss of our F400 on this vswitch (but it could have happened some time ago). q vswitch teevsw0 VSWITCH SYSTEM TEEVSW0 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 2Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Aware Default VLAN: 0755Default Porttype: Access GVRP: Enabled Native VLAN: 0755VLAN Counters: OFF MAC address: 02-00-0E-00-00-01 State: Ready IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 RDEV: F600.P00 VDEV: F600 Controller: DTCVSW1 RDEV: F400.P00 VDEV: F400 Controller: DTCVSW2 BACKUP It still shows as the backup when I know for a fact it is down (the cisco viewpoint shows it down ). I'd like to be able to monitor them from VM as well (that's what I should have said - it does sound like the cisco side is aware) - so I guess I have to look into the SNMP monitoring David suggested. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch The system manages the Primary and backup connections and if either one is lost a message ends up on the Operators Console. I use the QUERY VSWITCH command to check the current Status like this q vswitch VSWITCH SYSTEM VMPNET Type: VSWITCH Connected: 1Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Unaware MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01 State: Ready IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 RDEV: 0C40 VDEV: 0C40 Controller: DTCVSW1 RDEV: 0C50 VDEV: 0C50 Controller: DTCVSW2 BACKUP Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Monitoring the backup OSA on the vswitch How are folks monitoring their backup osa's on the vswitch? How do you know they haven't lost connectivity and won't be there when you need it? (asking because, well, yeah, that can happen :) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
DASD PAV's
I apologize if this is not the correct forum for this question. We have recently been upgrading systems for our coming move to z10. This includes MVS 1.9, and zVM 5.4. Now when we IPL we get all these Parallel Access Volumes attached to the DASD that I have to detach individually before I can attach them to a second level system. Any help? Thank you David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Need some help with REXX EXEC
Look in the Getting Started with Linux on System z book, chapter 9. That may have what you want. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need some help with REXX EXEC If we are just re-booting we just INIT6 on the Linux guest. I am setting up something so that when we take everything down for maintenance and such I want to do it from VM. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Macioce, Larry Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need some help with REXX EXEC Why not just use cron and issue a shutdown ? mace From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:24 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need some help with REXX EXEC If you use the signal facility the Linux image will shutdown and VM will wait for it to shutdown prior to completing VM's own shutdown process. Larry From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Need some help with REXX EXEC Hi I am trying to write a REXX exec to shutdown my z/Linux guests. I am having trouble figuring out a couple of things: 'MAKEBUF' RC = 0 DO FOREVER; /* WILL GET MESSAGES UNTIL GUEST DOWN */ 'WAKEUP (IUCVMSG QUIET'/* MESSAGE HAS ARRIVED */ PARSE PULL MSG /*GET RETURNED MESSAGE*/ /* PARSE VAR MSG TYPE F1 F2 MSGID F3 GUEST REST */ IF RC = 6 THEN /*IF RC = 5 TYPE = '*CP', */ /* (MSGID = 'HCPSIG2113I'| MSGID = 'HCPSIG2112I') THEN */ DO IF FUNCTION = 'SHUTDOWN' THEN First, I am not seeing the Shutdown message coming back to the BUFFER (MAKEBUF). I would like to parse the message to make sure it is the message I am looking for. I did a QUEUED on the BUFFER and there was nothing on the STACK. Any ideas why or even if this message should/is not coming back to the BUFFER? Second, After I receive the HCPSIG2112I message that says the guest has been shutdown, and I check and it has, but instead of dropping into the code it just sits there in RUNNING and I need to hit the ENTER key to get going again. Is there something I need or can do to simulate the ENTER KEY. Note: All of the code is not shown here! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
disconnect second level zvm
Why can I not disconnect my second level zvm test system like I do other users? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
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Help. This is a second level test system that used to work. Any ideas what I did? DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSVMLIB does not exist David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
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Yes and yes. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Help. This is a second level test system that used to work. Any ideas what I did? DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSVMLIB does not exist COLD Start? Purge some NSS files? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist
On 2nd level? Or first? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Most common reason is a COLD start. Remember, segments live in spool. Second reason, spool volume offline. VMFBUILD ( ALL should fix it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:08 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Help. This is a second level test system that used to work. Any ideas what I did? DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSVMLIB does not exist David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist
Last question (ahh, probably not) but where does vmfbuild live? Drive? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:18 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist 2nd. You want the current level from the 2nd level system built in 2nd level spool. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist On 2nd level? Or first? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Most common reason is a COLD start. Remember, segments live in spool. Second reason, spool volume offline. VMFBUILD ( ALL should fix it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:08 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Help. This is a second level test system that used to work. Any ideas what I did? DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSVMLIB does not exist David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist
Thanks for all the info everyone! David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:43 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist Hi, David. To use the VM/SES-E routines, MAINT needs to have it's 5E% minidisk at file mode b and it's 51D minidisk at file mode d. Hope this helps. Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Last question (ahh, probably not) but where does vmfbuild live? Drive? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:18 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist 2nd. You want the current level from the 2nd level system built in 2nd level spool. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist On 2nd level? Or first? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Most common reason is a COLD start. Remember, segments live in spool. Second reason, spool volume offline. VMFBUILD ( ALL should fix it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:08 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Help. This is a second level test system that used to work. Any ideas what I did? DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSVMLIB does not exist David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Tracking Hot Spots
Any experience out there with Omegamon for zvm and linux that sits on top of Perfkit? Does it give more / better info? Easier? We currently use Perfkit for real time monitoring and are fairly satisfied with that. We do not have the drill down into the linux boxes set up (rmfpms?), any links, input, etc. on that would also be really appreciated. Thanks for all the excellent info I am getting here. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LOREN CHARNLEY Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Tracking Hot Spots Your best bet would be to investigate the Velocity Software Suite, they are the only ones to have the performance monitor for VM. You would probably have to customize the reports that you would need but that is fairly straight forward. Velocity also has an excellent support staff. Loren Charnley, Jr. IT Systems Engineer FAMILY DOLLAR (704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327 (704) 814-3327 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Tracking Hot Spots We have a situation where we need to discover what hot spots exist in specific virtual machines, where they are spending the most execution time, from outside the machines in question. Are there any tools that can do this type of monitoring? Turning on traces in the machines has been rejected because of the impact to the machines. Regards, Richard Schuh NOTE: This e-mail message contains PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual or individuals to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying of this e-mail or the information contained herein or attached hereto is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, notify the person named above by reply e-mail and please delete it. Thank you. Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
