HCPJRL780E / HCPJRL145I
On a test system with zVM 5.3 someone tried to logon with incorrect password more than the allowed 5 times. Does anyone know where the 60 minutes or other value is set to allow the user to logon again ? HCP780E (XAUTOLOG failed for userid -) Maximum password attempts exceeded, , try again later. , , Explanation: You attempted to logon using LOGON, AUTOLOG or XAUTOLOG with an , incorrect password more times than the system permits. For security reasons, , the system will not allow you to logon until a waiting period has passed. , , System Action: When the number of unsuccessful logon attempts exceeds the , limit of ten (or the limit defined by the system administrator), the system , issues this message and denies further logon attempts for 60 minutes (or for a, period of time defined by the system administrator). , , User Response: Try to logon again later with the correct password. If you do , not know your password, contact your system administrator for assistance. , , This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: HCPJRL780E / HCPJRL145I
Thank you! From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPJRL780E / HCPJRL145I There is a way, however. If it is important that the user be able to log on immediately, you can turn logon journaling off and then back on (SET JOURNAL command.) This will wipe out any current journal counts for everybody and start counting from 0. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of peter.w...@ttc.ca Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:35 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPJRL780E / HCPJRL145I Hi Ann, This behaviour is defined in your SYSTEM CONFIG file in the 'Journaling Information' section. Here is ours: Journaling , Facility On , Set_and_Query Off , Logon , Lockout after 10 attempts for 60 minutes , Account after 0 attempts , Message after 10 attempts to OPERATOR , VM_Logo after 5 attempts , Link , Account after0 attempts , Message after0 attempts to Operator , Disable after 10 attempts Once a user has reached the logon lockout limit, I know of no way to reset the user. They must not attempt to logon for 60 minutes, or else the timer starts again. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: February 2, 2010 13:41 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPJRL780E / HCPJRL145I On a test system with zVM 5.3 someone tried to logon with incorrect password more than the allowed 5 times. Does anyone know where the 60 minutes or other value is set to allow the user to logon again ? HCP780E (XAUTOLOG failed for userid -) Maximum password attempts exceeded, , try again later. , , Explanation: You attempted to logon using LOGON, AUTOLOG or XAUTOLOG with an , incorrect password more times than the system permits. For security reasons, , the system will not allow you to logon until a waiting period has passed. , , System Action: When the number of unsuccessful logon attempts exceeds the , limit of ten (or the limit defined by the system administrator), the system , issues this message and denies further logon attempts for 60 minutes (or for a, period of time defined by the system administrator). , , User Response: Try to logon again later with the correct password. If you do , not know your password, contact your system administrator for assistance. , , This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner
Re: Basic FTP question
Thanks you! I upgraded to 3.2.8. Looking good. Filezilla is a wonderful thing. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Cal Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question It would be /userid.disk With FileZilla being graphic I put /fisherc.192 in the Remote site: box to put transfer files to and from my 192 disk. /fisherc.rdr also works but of course it does not display any files. For shared file system it would be /filepool:directory Also it looks like z/VM support was added at level 3.0.2 (2007-10-17) http://filezilla-project.org/versions.php Cal Fisher MVMUA website http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ My Navy memoirs http://www.the-fishers.com/cal/Navy - Original Message - From: Michael Coffin michaelcof...@mccci.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Basic FTP question Example please. Are you saying, for example, CD /MIKE.191 or CD MIKE./191? -Mike -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Cal Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question For Filezilla to display the VM files you need to have a / infront of the directory. Under Site Manager Advanced for Default remote directory: enter / I am using 3.2.7.1 I think this problem started with zVM 5.3 Cal Fisher MVMUA website http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ My Navy memoirs http://www.the-fishers.com/cal/Navy - Original Message - From: Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) ann.sm...@thehartford.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Basic FTP question I missed your earler post about Filezilla. I use Filezilla a lot with the linux servers. I never pursued it much with z/VM since I never could get it to display the VM filename/filetype. I see all files with the name of my id for file name. Is there an option to fix the display of file names on VM? I'd rather use Filezilla. I currently have 2.28b installed This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: Basic FTP question
You can FTP then GET files to the tdisk you previously defined and accessed as X. FTP othervm User: myuser Password: mypassword get others.exec others.exec.X -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:53 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question I was thinking more on the lines of: Define Tdisk Acc as X or whatever FTP to X or whatever Send the file to the user. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 03:32 EDT, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Can you define a tdisk to put it on? You cannot FTP to a tdisk since they are not LINKable. However, if you have a vdisk mdisk in your directory entry you can FTP to it., though you cannot ftp to a vdisk created by the DEFINE command. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: Basic FTP question
For what it is worth WS_FTP pro works between zVM and Windows PC. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question Can you define a tdisk to put it on? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Henry Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Basic FTP question I'm trying to set up an ftp session from my PC to z/VM V5.1. I've tried a= couple FTP products (FileZilla WinSCP) which produces errors Faile= d to retrieve directory listing. I finally found an ftp product that works = (CoreFTP) but the CMS 191 disk is accessed as read only so I can't transf= er any data to it. Is there a setting in the z/VM FTP server that causes thi= s? Can I issue a SITE command (or something else) that will put the mdisk in= write mode? == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: Basic FTP question
I missed your earler post about Filezilla. I use Filezilla a lot with the linux servers. I never pursued it much with z/VM since I never could get it to display the VM filename/filetype. I see all files with the name of my id for file name. Is there an option to fix the display of file names on VM? I'd rather use Filezilla. I currently have 2.28b installed -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Hodge, Robert L Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question I've been using Filezilla for years. For minidisks to work you need to limit the number of connections to one, otherwise you receive the message about the minidisk being read-only. This is because when Filezilla connects it is given a write link to the minidisk, but if connections are not limited to one, then for a file transfer, Filezilla obtains a new connection which is read-only. Filezilla works fine with SFS when setting list-format to Unix. Works fine with the reader option. And it works with SSL protected sessions. You need version 2 of Filezilla for SSL to work with z/VM 5.3. If you have z/VM 5.4 and the test fix for TCP/IP APAR PK87640, then Filezilla version 3 SSL protected FTP sessions work just fine. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question For what it is worth WS_FTP pro works between zVM and Windows PC. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Basic FTP question Can you define a tdisk to put it on? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Henry Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Basic FTP question I'm trying to set up an ftp session from my PC to z/VM V5.1. I've tried a= couple FTP products (FileZilla WinSCP) which produces errors Faile= d to retrieve directory listing. I finally found an ftp product that works = (CoreFTP) but the CMS 191 disk is accessed as read only so I can't transf= er any data to it. Is there a setting in the z/VM FTP server that causes thi= s? Can I issue a SITE command (or something else) that will put the mdisk in= write mode? == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: Moving On II
Sad to hear the news. You will be missed. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Moving On II Greetings folks, The proverbial last shoe dropped Thursday, when I was notified that my position at 3M has been eliminated. If anyone in the Minneapolis/St Paul area is looking for person with solid z/VM, zLinux, TSM, Unix System Services, and yes, even a bit of SMP/E experience, I'd appreciate hearing from you. I have so many of you to thank for all the help you've given to me and others in the VM community for all these 28+ years. I'll still be lurking here on IBMVM and others. Hopefully something will turn up so I can continue to get my daily REXX/Pipes/USS fix. Very best regards, Mark Wheeler Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign up today. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Access_02 2009 This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4
We used to do the stepped approach until zVM 4.4 or 5.1. Originally we did CP/GCS and TCPIP then did CMS later. That was until TCPIP became dependent on CMS. Now we're Big Bang believers. If you must do stepped -remember CMS BEFORE or AT SAME TIME as TCPIP. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4 That brings up a question. Is there any known inconsistency that will be exposed if I upgrade the CP from 5.2 to 5.3 first? Big Bang is not to my liking at this time? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:15 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4 On Thursday, 10/30/2008 at 10:13 EDT, Edward M Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I thought that TCP/IP and CMS were tied to each other level wise. They work on different levels but there could be inconsistencies. You are correct. A particular release may include a TCP/IP change that depends on a new CMS function that depends on a new CP function. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If a service that TCP/IP or one of its servers needs isn't present in CP and/or CMS, that app will typically stop. We try to do it gracefully and it is our general rule to check for the availability of a new service when the server starts - not waiting until it is actually needed. This way the error appears right away. If you don't do a big bang: 1. Upgrade CP 2. Upgrade CMS 3. Upgrade TCP/IP with all of its attendent servers What is underneath needs to be newer than what rides on top. We do our best to make this work if it's reasonable to do so, but there are limits. E.g. When the SSL support for z/VM 5.4 ships later this year, it will not work with an old stack and the new stack will not work with the old SSL server. The expense of making it work was prohibitive. Within reason we'll support a mixed configuration while you are migrating. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.
Re: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745.
I'm not sure what the 'JL' command is but it sounds like you want your job sysout, jesmsg, etc. to stay over on the JES3 side. You might try editing the jcl on the VM side to include a //*MAIN ORG statement to override the origin similar to //*MAIN ORG=jes3node.LOCAL where jes3node is your zOS BDT node name. You can use OUTPUT or FORMAT statements as well but //*MAIN ORG might be best. I don't know what 'JL' is but we send jobs and data from zVM to zOS sendimng output to various vendor softcopy and output storage products. Some need special output classes. But if your current jcl works from VM with RJE then NJE may work fine if you try options with //*MAIN ORG. Always glad to see someone else using JES3. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark T. Regan, K8MTR Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM RSCS as RJP to JES3, replace current process and last 3745. We have an old process that is used to support submitting jobs from VM to JES3. The current process uses a 3745 running EP on it. Here's the EP configuration for them: The RSCS Side: *## EPNCPAB GROUP DIAL=NO, X LNCTL=BSC, X SPEED=9600, X CLOCKNG=EXT, X CODE=EBCDIC, X CU=2701, X DUPLEX=FULL, X TERM=3277, X TYPE=EP RSCSB1 LINE ADDRESS=(196,32-0),TERM=3135 RSCS 43B #1 RSCS1 LINE ADDRESS=(197,32-2),TERM=3135 RSCS 43C #1 *## The JES3 side: *## RJE GROUP DIAL=NO, X LNCTL=BSC, X CLOCKNG=EXT, X CODE=EBCDIC, X CU=2701, X DUPLEX=FULL, X TERM=2020, X TYPE=EP LNE2 LINE ADDRESS=(321,3D-3,3D-1),TERM=3135 RSCSB LNE3 LINE ADDRESS=(322,23-3,23-1),TERM=3135 RSCSC ** The VM side is using RSCS (TYPE is MRJE) to appear to JES3 as a RJP workstation. In JES3 it's defined as T=S370, with a console and three devices: RJPLINE,N=LNE2,A=(SYX,03D,SYY,03D,SYZ,03D),S=9600 * RJPTERM,N=VMX02,T=S370,RD=1,PR=2,PU=1,B=400,O=BFIX,G=VMX CONSOLE,TYPE=RJP,DEST=NONE,LEVEL=14,LL=79,JNAME=VMX02 DEVICE,DTYPE=RMT3211,TRAIN=(NO,RN),HEADER=YES,JNAME=VMX02PR1, FORMS=(NO,),DGROUP=VMX DEVICE,DTYPE=RMT3211,TRAIN=(NO,RN),HEADER=YES,JNAME=VMX02PR2, FORMS=(NO,),DGROUP=VMX DEVICE,DTYPE=RMT2540P,JNAME=VMX02PU1,DGROUP=VMX * Since our goal is to eliminate this last 3745, we would like to keep the impact to the users as minimal as possible. There are hundreds of jobs that are submitted from our two z/VM systems, a lot of them out of their scheduler systems. We have found that a lot of these jobs were set up ages ago, so there is no original author support for them anymore. In addition to using the RSCS to JES3 lines to submit jobs, the users also use a JQ function to requeue jobs as needed. The resulting console commands go across the RJP connection to JES3 too. The users also use a JL function that allows them to view the JES3 job output by accessing the JES spool directly. We have heard about Visara's FEP-4600 Communications Controller product, which supposedly supports EP connectivity, and we will be looking at it. Is the Visara product the only one out there? Are there any other options that we could pursue that will entail not having to force the application support people to make changes? I'm sure they would prefer something that would require them not to make any changes at all. We have a NJE connection between the z/VM and JES3 systems, but what we have heard is that without a JES3 mod, the incoming jobs are flagged as remote jobs and not local jobs. Therefore any resulting output can go back to VM by default. Supposedly the JES3 mod would somehow flag the job as being local to the JES3 system. Thanks. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
R.I.P. 3290
They are finally getting rid of old 3174 control units and we wiill lose our old 3290 local terminal. We had set up it's big screen with 4 terminal sessions. 19 plasma screen. A big deal at the time. It provided the anti-green screens. Kind of orange-y amber. Supposedly better on your eyes. I can't really remember how long we've had it. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.
I do remember you can get messages about shared Y- stat for the Y disk. Same goes for S-stat if you were to copy the 190 disk. The saved segments have to agree with the minidisks. Use DDR to copy the old disk to the new disk. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks. One addition question: Doesn't all of this (19E 19D) have some effect on the saved segments for CMS? Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/27/2008 9:52 AM Hi, Howard. Try the following: 1) create another VM user id with the proper privileges. Call it, say, MAINTX. 2) create the new MAINT mindisks on the new volume,using your favorite directory manager tools. 3) logo off of MAINT 4) from MAINTX, link to both the old MAINT's minidisks, and the new minidisks on the new volume. 5) do a DDR from each old minidisk to the new one. 6) update all of the other user directory entries to point to the new MAINT minidisk locations, and bring the directory online. It will not matter that other users have links to MAINT's old minidisks, as these links should be r/o only. As users log off and back on again, they will pick up the new location for MAINT's minidisks. When the last user using the old minidisk location logs off, you can then reclaim that DASD space for other uses. No shutdown and no IPL required. Good luck. Howard Rifkind wrote: Hello all, I have to move user maint's minidisk to a new volume. Problem is that there isn't either a first level or second level system here I could use to do this and a good number of other logged on users who can't be shut down have links to maint's minidisks to say the least is the 19E 19D. Management says no shutting down VM and no IPL. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.
I also would not create another id. Just create new MAINT mdisks, do DDR copies and then flip flop the mdisks in MAINT's directory and DIRM REPLACE. We use DIRMAINT. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks. Why an extra user? Just use MAINT, and change the addresses. I'd use the password fields to tell which is which, for example MDISK A190 3390 nnn mmm oldvol RR OLD190 TOREMOVE mmdd MDISK 0190 3390 kkk mmm newvo RR ALL And, if you have an ESM, the passwords on the MDISK records don't count anymore, so you can then also store some information on the 190 MDISK record. 2008/6/27 Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Howard. No, there is no effect on the CMS saved segments...they are only effected if you change the their contents, not just their location. Howard Rifkind wrote: One addition question: Doesn't all of this (19E 19D) have some effect on the saved segments for CMS? Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/27/2008 9:52 AM Hi, Howard. Try the following: 1) create another VM user id with the proper privileges. Call it, say, MAINTX. 2) create the new MAINT mindisks on the new volume,using your favorite directory manager tools. 3) logo off of MAINT 4) from MAINTX, link to both the old MAINT's minidisks, and the new minidisks on the new volume. 5) do a DDR from each old minidisk to the new one. 6) update all of the other user directory entries to point to the new MAINT minidisk locations, and bring the directory online. It will not matter that other users have links to MAINT's old minidisks, as these links should be r/o only. As users log off and back on again, they will pick up the new location for MAINT's minidisks. When the last user using the old minidisk location logs off, you can then reclaim that DASD space for other uses. No shutdown and no IPL required. Good luck. Howard Rifkind wrote: Hello all, I have to move user maint's minidisk to a new volume. Problem is that there isn't either a first level or second level system here I could use to do this and a good number of other logged on users who can't be shut down have links to maint's minidisks to say the least is the 19E 19D. Management says no shutting down VM and no IPL. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Moving zVM systems( with linux guests) to new dasd
Thanks to all that replied to my question! Although TDMF is probably much faster than DDR's, the zVM dasd is not currently defined to zOS. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:04 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving zVM systems( with linux guests) to new dasd Do you have access to a z/OS system that is outside of the z/VM lpar(s)? We used TDMF to move z/VM and zLinux DASD (while z/VM and zLinux are down) from a z/OS lpar. It worked with out a problem. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Moving zVM systems( with linux guests) to new dasd We are going to be moving our zVM systems to new IBM dasd (DS8300). In past dasd migrations we had used REXX execs and some assembler code to basically DDR all volumes from the old dasd to the new. We would shutdown the system and run the DDR's from one of the other VM systems. The zOS dasd is being moved as well and TDMF is going to be used. Apparently TDMF can copy the dasd while the systems are up. But we were told there is no TDMF for VM. For VM systems with linux guests it will take a while to do DDR's. We may do linux guests individually (shorter outage windows). My question is about best practices for dasd migration for zVM systems with linux guests. My gut feeling is you still would want the linux guest down while dasd is copied. We mainly have ext3 filesystems. Is there any TDMF in the works for zVM (or some other method of copying while systems are up)? Do folks define full pack minidisks? Or is it still best to shutdown the linux servers? Looking for suggestions from others who may have gone through this process. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Moving zVM systems( with linux guests) to new dasd
We are going to be moving our zVM systems to new IBM dasd (DS8300). In past dasd migrations we had used REXX execs and some assembler code to basically DDR all volumes from the old dasd to the new. We would shutdown the system and run the DDR's from one of the other VM systems. The zOS dasd is being moved as well and TDMF is going to be used. Apparently TDMF can copy the dasd while the systems are up. But we were told there is no TDMF for VM. For VM systems with linux guests it will take a while to do DDR's. We may do linux guests individually (shorter outage windows). My question is about best practices for dasd migration for zVM systems with linux guests. My gut feeling is you still would want the linux guest down while dasd is copied. We mainly have ext3 filesystems. Is there any TDMF in the works for zVM (or some other method of copying while systems are up)? Do folks define full pack minidisks? Or is it still best to shutdown the linux servers? Looking for suggestions from others who may have gone through this process. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
How does z/VM obtain time ?
I am not sure what the options are for external timers and I think the z9's and probably z10's have some new way of obtaining time. We currently have external timers that are somehow magically connected to the zVM lpars. The timers obtain time from a naval observatory. Anyway, electricians managed to kill some of the mainframe cables (copper melts). They are replacing the cables to the timers this weekend. I am wondering how to verify the new cables work. I always thought (I could be wrong) zVM obtained the time from the hardware (HMC? SE?). Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: How does z/VM obtain time ?
Thanks John. We use an external timer. I just wondered if after they replace the cables do I have to do anything like a POR (power on reset) for the lpar to get it's time refreshed from the external timer. I will check the doc you mention here. You say zVM doesn't keep in synch but I wonder if the lpar does. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How does z/VM obtain time ? Ann, If you don't use the z/VM IPL prompt to change it's LPAR'as TOD clock then z/VM's LPAR gets its TOD clock set equal to the External Time Reference (ETR) or on z10 Server Time Protocol (STP) time at LPAR-activation time if you're using an ETR or STP, and thereafter the LPAR's TOD drifts a bit. Unlike z/OS, z/VM doesn't include the code that supports keeping in synch with the ETR/STP. See Sysplex Timer and VM http://www.vm.ibm.com/faq/vmgen.html#Header_2 See http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg242070.pdf page 83 section 4.2 VM/ESA Long story short- if your machine's TOD clock is set ok then just let z/VM's LPAR inherit it. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How does z/VM obtain time ? I am not sure what the options are for external timers and I think the z9's and probably z10's have some new way of obtaining time. We currently have external timers that are somehow magically connected to the zVM lpars. The timers obtain time from a naval observatory. Anyway, electricians managed to kill some of the mainframe cables (copper melts). They are replacing the cables to the timers this weekend. I am wondering how to verify the new cables work. I always thought (I could be wrong) zVM obtained the time from the hardware (HMC? SE?). Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: How does z/VM obtain time ?
Thanks agin. The doc has what I needed. I need to ACTIVATE the zVM lpars. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How does z/VM obtain time ? Ann, If you don't use the z/VM IPL prompt to change it's LPAR'as TOD clock then z/VM's LPAR gets its TOD clock set equal to the External Time Reference (ETR) or on z10 Server Time Protocol (STP) time at LPAR-activation time if you're using an ETR or STP, and thereafter the LPAR's TOD drifts a bit. Unlike z/OS, z/VM doesn't include the code that supports keeping in synch with the ETR/STP. See Sysplex Timer and VM http://www.vm.ibm.com/faq/vmgen.html#Header_2 See http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg242070.pdf page 83 section 4.2 VM/ESA Long story short- if your machine's TOD clock is set ok then just let z/VM's LPAR inherit it. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How does z/VM obtain time ? I am not sure what the options are for external timers and I think the z9's and probably z10's have some new way of obtaining time. We currently have external timers that are somehow magically connected to the zVM lpars. The timers obtain time from a naval observatory. Anyway, electricians managed to kill some of the mainframe cables (copper melts). They are replacing the cables to the timers this weekend. I am wondering how to verify the new cables work. I always thought (I could be wrong) zVM obtained the time from the hardware (HMC? SE?). Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer
It depends on what specific things you want the z/VM systems programmer to support-such as: Install and maintain z/VM any specific IBM and ISV products under z/VM (SES and non-SES) any existing REXX exec's any existing Assembler programs any existing Exits and Mods guest operating systems such as VSE, zOS, Novell SuSE Linux, RedHat Linux. Will the zVM sysprog support just the zVM or install and maintain the guest OS as well? Support operators and provide procedures Hardware concerns (HCD/IOCP gens, dasd migrations, tape support etc.) Backup concerns (In-house and DR backups, DR procedures, tape encryption, etc.) From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer If you were hiring a new z/VM systems programmer what would be the 5-10 most important questions you would ask the applicant? If you have suggestions please also include answers...Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer
Oh and add Security concerns (support of DIRMAINT and RACF or VMSECURE or TOPSECRET , or whatever Security products you use.) From: Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:08 PM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: RE: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer Oh and add Network support (IP and SNA connections, network printer support via RSCS) From: Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:56 PM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: RE: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer It depends on what specific things you want the z/VM systems programmer to support-such as: Install and maintain z/VM any specific IBM and ISV products under z/VM (SES and non-SES) any existing REXX exec's any existing Assembler programs any existing Exits and Mods guest operating systems such as VSE, zOS, Novell SuSE Linux, RedHat Linux. Will the zVM sysprog support just the zVM or install and maintain the guest OS as well? Support operators and provide procedures Hardware concerns (HCD/IOCP gens, dasd migrations, tape support etc.) Backup concerns (In-house and DR backups, DR procedures, tape encryption, etc.) From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer If you were hiring a new z/VM systems programmer what would be the 5-10 most important questions you would ask the applicant? If you have suggestions please also include answers...Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: VTAM R.I.P.
Still have the VTAM cow here though it may have gone to its final lonely pasture. (NETVIEW, SAS and other cows are gone now). From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:47 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VTAM R.I.P. Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :- Z NET,QUICK Couldn't be 'QUICK' enough for us. We managed to eliminate it from VM by the middle of last year. We went back to using basic mode CTC connections to z/OS until they got themselves up to 1.7 with the ability to use TCPNJE. The interesting thing was that it was the huge cost of VTAM that was the main motivation for us. Given that the product was functionally stabilised and needed virtually zero support for a number of years we were struggling to see why. Once we looked at VTAM, and eliminated it, this led us to look at a number of other relatively high cost products that we have ways to eliminate, replace or reduce. I am not saying that we would not have looked at these anyway but the high cost of VTAM was the catalyst to start looking. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment
I'm sure the people planning for the new hardware have considered it. I was just concerned that in their plan they had no native physical tape for VM. Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Have you considered how you will get data from the local VTS to the remote VTS? Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: Thanks. I was hoping to VMTAPE mount the maintenance tapes to the other VM systems as FOREIGN tapes. And yes, there will be a VTS at the remote DR site. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment
We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We have 5 VM systems with separate VMTAPE catalogs. They currently do not have any native physical tape drives planned for the VM systems. We normally do maintenance on 1 VM system and use DDR and SPXTAPE to propogate to the other VM systems. Is anyone familiar with using virtual tape with DDR and SPXTAPE? Can I just VMTAPE mount the virtual tape as a FOREIGN tape and be able to do DDR restore and/or SPXTAPE load? I am also wondering about how to do SPXTAPE's for DR. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment
Thanks for the info. We did install DFSMS - at least now have an RMSMASTR id. But the new tape hardware is not yet installed. But we'll still be using VMTAPE since it manages the tape catalog. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We do DDR's and SPXTAPE every day to virtual (VTS) tapes. Treat them like physical tapes. SPXTAPE's for DR - same as using physical tapes: if the spool files won't fit on one tape you'll need to mount enough scratch tapes for SPXTAPE to use: vmtape mount scratch 181 dsn jrr.spxtape.1OF3 (retpd 21 vmtape mount scratch 182 dsn jrr.spxtape.2OF3 (retpd 21 vmtape mount scratch 183 dsn jrr.spxtape.3OF3 (retpd 21 CP SPXTAPE DUMP 181-183 SPOOL ALL (or whatever subsets of spool you want) I haven't tried it in a long time, but if you're not using the DFSMS sharing exit (or are, but code its rexx exec to allow it), you can mount any volid in the VTS by using DFSMSRM MOUNT commands. I'm not sure if VMTAPE supports that. Experiment, try it. The fine print on DFSMSRM MOUNT says a peer-to-peer VTS won't let you change a volume's category but that's not a show-stopper, shouldn't need to. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We have 5 VM systems with separate VMTAPE catalogs. They currently do not have any native physical tape drives planned for the VM systems. We normally do maintenance on 1 VM system and use DDR and SPXTAPE to propogate to the other VM systems. Is anyone familiar with using virtual tape with DDR and SPXTAPE? Can I just VMTAPE mount the virtual tape as a FOREIGN tape and be able to do DDR restore and/or SPXTAPE load? I am also wondering about how to do SPXTAPE's for DR. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment
It's probably me that is confused. I have been told VM will have virtual tape but no native tape. They also have used the term 'backend tape'. I obviously have more to learn. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics side to make it a tape based VTS system (with a very large disk cache). Then, there is the IBM TS1120. These are real tape drives (not virtual). So, if your VM system can get access to your IBM TS1120 drives, just backup to them for off site storage. If you can only get access to the virtual tapes, then backup to a virtual tape and, on a system that has access to the IBM TS1120, do a tape copy from the virtual tape located in the IBM DS8300 to a real tape mounted in the IBM TS1120. The IBM TS1120 drives support hardware encryption. That is great. However, in a disaster recovery situation, it may not be so great. Until you get the disaster recovery tested with encryption, you may want to create your VM recovery tapes, without encryption enabled. With the VTS, you do have to execute some code to tell the VTS what tape you want. VMTAPE should be able to handle this. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Obstruction A cat must lay on the floor in such a position to obstruct the maximum amount of human foot traffic. Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/24/2008 1:41 PM We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We have 5 VM systems with separate VMTAPE catalogs. They currently do not have any native physical tape drives planned for the VM systems. We normally do maintenance on 1 VM system and use DDR and SPXTAPE to propogate to the other VM systems. Is anyone familiar with using virtual tape with DDR and SPXTAPE? Can I just VMTAPE mount the virtual tape as a FOREIGN tape and be able to do DDR restore and/or SPXTAPE load? I am also wondering about how to do SPXTAPE's for DR. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment
Yes I do mean the CA VMTAPE product. I have opened issues with CA. I need to upgrade both VMTAPE and VMBACKUP, apply a patch to support encryption and convert to LMP keys. I've never supported these products but the folks at CA who support them are very helpful. No problems there. They are great to work with. I'm just trying to see how other VM Support folks make use of virtual tape in regards to DDR and SPXTAPE for maintenance and for DR. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imler, Steven J Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Hi Ann, When you say VMTAPE ... I assume you mean CA's VM:Tape product. If this is the case, just call CA's VM Customer Support or open an issue yourself for VM:Tape via CASupport so we can get a bit more information about your configuration and make some recommendations about what the best options are for what you need to do. JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 02:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We have 5 VM systems with separate VMTAPE catalogs. They currently do not have any native physical tape drives planned for the VM systems. We normally do maintenance on 1 VM system and use DDR and SPXTAPE to propogate to the other VM systems. Is anyone familiar with using virtual tape with DDR and SPXTAPE? Can I just VMTAPE mount the virtual tape as a FOREIGN tape and be able to do DDR restore and/or SPXTAPE load? I am also wondering about how to do SPXTAPE's for DR. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment
Thanks. I was hoping to VMTAPE mount the maintenance tapes to the other VM systems as FOREIGN tapes. And yes, there will be a VTS at the remote DR site. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Ann, You shouldn't have any trouble using virtual tape with VM or VM:Tape. We use it here, primarily for VM:Backup and VM:Spool. VM:Spool uses SPXTAPE under the covers. I'm sure DDR will work fine, too. One phase of our DR process mounts virtual tapes as FOREIGN on another VM system, and it works fine. My only question is, if your virtual tapes are in a VTS, how will you get them to the DR site? In our case, the VTS is physically at the DR site, and the production system has a channel extension connection to it. A peer-to-peer VTS might also be an option. Dennis O'Brien No government deprives its citizens of rights without asserting that its actions are reasonable and necessary for high-sounding reasons such as public safety. A right that can be regulated is no right at all, only a temporary privilege dependent upon the good will of the very government officials that such right is designed to constrain. -- Herbert W. Titus and William J. Olson, attorneys for Gun Owners of America -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 14:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment It's probably me that is confused. I have been told VM will have virtual tape but no native tape. They also have used the term 'backend tape'. I obviously have more to learn. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics side to make it a tape based VTS system (with a very large disk cache). Then, there is the IBM TS1120. These are real tape drives (not virtual). So, if your VM system can get access to your IBM TS1120 drives, just backup to them for off site storage. If you can only get access to the virtual tapes, then backup to a virtual tape and, on a system that has access to the IBM TS1120, do a tape copy from the virtual tape located in the IBM DS8300 to a real tape mounted in the IBM TS1120. The IBM TS1120 drives support hardware encryption. That is great. However, in a disaster recovery situation, it may not be so great. Until you get the disaster recovery tested with encryption, you may want to create your VM recovery tapes, without encryption enabled. With the VTS, you do have to execute some code to tell the VTS what tape you want. VMTAPE should be able to handle this. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Obstruction A cat must lay on the floor in such a position to obstruct the maximum amount of human foot traffic. Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/24/2008 1:41 PM We are running zVM 5.2 and currently still have manual 3490 tape drives. We may soon be getting an IBM DS8300 (shared with zOS) with TS1120 virtual tape. We have 5 VM systems with separate VMTAPE catalogs. They currently do not have any native physical tape drives planned for the VM systems. We normally do maintenance on 1 VM system and use DDR and SPXTAPE to propogate to the other VM systems. Is anyone familiar with using virtual tape with DDR and SPXTAPE? Can I just VMTAPE mount the virtual tape as a FOREIGN tape and be able to do DDR restore and/or SPXTAPE load? I am also wondering about how to do SPXTAPE's for DR. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * * This communication, including
Re: Number of IFLs to zLinux guests
You can use SET SHARE to stop the CPU runaways. We have one bad app server we decided to cap permanently. The application code problems have actully been on a Windows server -but it impacts the oracle db on the mainframe- we just capped the test db server so it doesn't impact the other servers. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of IFLs to zLinux guests We're running about 40 Linux guests on a total of four IFLs, spread across two LPARs and CECs. Roughly 20 guests in each LPAR. We're about to add an additional IFL to each LPAR, not for capacity, since we're normally running at about 10 - 20 percent, but to handle the case where a single rogue guest consumes everything it can get for awhile. We'll continue to build one and two virtual CPU guests, but have the third engine to avoid allowing a single guest with dual virtual CPUs from eating the entire system. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 3/19/08 2:36 PM, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z9 ECs here and a z10, but I'm not counting him yet... In prod - we have 45 or so guests on 18 IFLs In test - we have had 100 or so guests on 2 IFLs. So, the ratio is either 50:1 or 5:2 :) You can see why everyone says it depends. If you can get the testers to play well together (wiki page coordination is what we do), I think one could have a ratio to work with in test. Prod is going to require measurement and planning :) Memory is usually a bigger issue than CPU. At least with CPU you can prioritize things so not all feel it. If you are heavily paging, everyone feels it. (i.e 100 on 24G = pain, 100 on 48G = happiness) (PS. We started with 2 :) Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harris, Nick J. Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Number of IFLs to zLinux guests Hello All, Is there a golden rule about the number of IFLs to support production Linux guests? I understand all shops are different and 'it depends' applies...but we are curious as to the ratio of IFLs to Linux guest in other shops. Are there any shops out there running zLinux guests in production under z/VM with two or less IFLs besides us? We have four production Linux guests and twenty one test Linux guests supported by two IFLs on a z9BC. TIA Thanks, Nick Harris Lead Systems Programmer Texas Farm Bureau Mutual Insurance Company 7420 Fish Pond Rd. Waco, TX 76710 254.751.2259 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Number of IFLs to zLinux guests
It depends. The cpu power of a z9 (or now z10) is larger than a z9BC.You need to consider what 'size' IFL's you're talking about, what kind of applications- do they do a lot of I/O use cpu, use memory, etc. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harris, Nick J. Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Number of IFLs to zLinux guests Hello All, Is there a golden rule about the number of IFLs to support production Linux guests? I understand all shops are different and 'it depends' applies...but we are curious as to the ratio of IFLs to Linux guest in other shops. Are there any shops out there running zLinux guests in production under z/VM with two or less IFLs besides us? We have four production Linux guests and twenty one test Linux guests supported by two IFLs on a z9BC. TIA Thanks, Nick Harris Lead Systems Programmer Texas Farm Bureau Mutual Insurance Company 7420 Fish Pond Rd. Waco, TX 76710 254.751.2259 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: VM commands for IBM dasd
Rather than ssh can the DS CLI run on a linux guest on zseries? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM commands for IBM dasd On Tuesday, 12/11/2007 at 11:52 EST, Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have used SUN/STK dasd for VM systems for years and have exec's and programs that make use of the VM command line interfaces- for except 'sibmenu snap minidisk' Rather than using the sibmenu GUI (ISPF on VM ) interface we code REXX exec's to process dasd work (creating dasd volumes, dasd migration of minidisks from one volume to another, etc.) With IBM dasd (DS8100 or DS8300) does IBM provide commands for VM? The CP FLASHCOPY command is available if you have purchased Copy Services on the dasd (and you can do some stuff with DSF). There is no CMS CLI to make the box do your bidding, though you could trigger a Linux guest to ssh into the controller and use its resident CLI to do what you need. And we were just discussing a CMS-based SMI-S client over in the LINUX-390 listserver yesterday Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
VM commands for IBM dasd
We have used SUN/STK dasd for VM systems for years and have exec's and programs that make use of the VM command line interfaces- for except 'sibmenu snap minidisk' Rather than using the sibmenu GUI (ISPF on VM ) interface we code REXX exec's to process dasd work (creating dasd volumes, dasd migration of minidisks from one volume to another, etc.) With IBM dasd (DS8100 or DS8300) does IBM provide commands for VM? Ann Smith Mainframe Systems Support -zVM and zLinux Support Integrated Technology Delivery IBM Global Service Integrated Operations At The Hartford Work phone: 860-547-6110 Pager: 800-204-6367 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: RSCS on 5.3
Thanks Les. It's just PROP seems like basic VM capability but the cost of the OTC's for 5 IFL's probably makes it not an option. We had been under the impression that TCP/IP features were free. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RSCS on 5.3 Thanks for the information. I was hoping TCPNJE would be free. We now have 2 VM lpars on 2 different processors that support linux guests. We wanted to use PROP between the 2 systems. None of the RSCS NJE features, including TCPNJE, are free. All require a license. In fact, not all TCP/IP features are free. TCPASCII and UFTD require a license as well. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Removing NETVIEW
Title: Removing NETVIEW Since IBM is dropping VSAM for VM we are eliminating NETVIEW on our VM systems. It has left some 'remnants' of its previous life on our VM systems. At system IPL right after the 'directory is brought online' message we see: HCPCRC8080I NETVIEW is not connected to the *LOGREC system service. HCPCRC8080I NETVALT is not connected to the *LOGREC system service. When we enter 'Q REC' we receive the following response: RECORDING COUNT LMT USERID COMMUNICATION EREP ON 002 SYSEREP ACTIVE ACCOUNT ON 020 SYSACNT ACTIVE SYMPTOM ON 002 OPERSYMP ACTIVE EREP ON 002 NETVIEW INACTIVE EREP ON 002 NETVALT INACTIVE Ready; Is there any way to remove NETVIEW from the system common area without a COLD IPL? The HCPCRC808I message seems to indicate a COLD IPL is needed. * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
VM Tape encryption
Title: VM Tape encryption Did anyone ever find a good way to encrypt DDR tapes? I remember folks asking about this a while back. Also, is anyone using VMBACKUP encryption? Does it meet current regulations? * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about ISPFVM on z/VM V5R2
For what it's worth- We run zVM 5.1 and ISPDCSS is at 1F00-1FFF and ISRDCSS is at 2000-20FF. We don't use any language DCSS's. What size virtual stoarge does your id have (Q V STOR) and does 'Q SEGMENT' show anything loaded at the location ISPF wants? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Dudley Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about ISPFVM on z/VM V5R2 Dave, the returned error code (41) gives a hint...the CMS storage where the ISPF dcss needs to go is already being used by something else. My guest is that your CMS user ids on your new 5.2 system are significantly larger than they were on your old system. Try setting the virtual storage for the CMS guest down below the location of the ISPF dcss and see if that doesn't at least allow ISPF to start. Yeah - it looks like there are some conflicts. Here is a partial of a q nss all map: FILE FILENAME FILETYPE MINSIZE BEGPAG ENDPAG TYPE CL #USERS PARMREGS VMGROUP 0021 NLSGER DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0020 NLSKANJI DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0035 NLSUCENG DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0034 NLSAMENG DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 00012 N/A N/A 0049 ISPDCSS DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A So now I need to figure out how to move the ISPDCSS to a new location. Or move the NLS DCSS. Any ideas as to which is easier? I don't know how to adapt the VM/XA or VM/SP HPO instructions to the newer environment. Are there any more modern instructions for changing the ISPDCSS BEGPAG? -- Thanks Craig DJ Craig Dudley wrote: Hi, I am converting from a z/VM V3R1 system to a z/VM V5R2 system. I have ISPF VM V3R2 on my 3.1 system. I copied all the minidisks from the 3.1 system to the 5.2 system. I SPXTAPEd the ISPDCSS SVM DCSS' from the 3.1 spool to the 5.2 spool. We XAUTOLOGed ISPVM on 5.2 and it came up without any errors on the console log. This was verified by logging onto ISPVM and running the PROFILE manually. When my user tries to invoke ISPF for VM, I get: DMSSLG332E No user additions were loaded RETURN CODE FROM SEGMENT MACRO (LOADSYS) IS 41, SEE YOUR SYTEM PROGRAMMER ISPF DCSS SEGMENT NOT LOADED 81 *-* 'ISPDCS ISPDCSS ISPVM 'arg string +++ RC(998) +++ With my 5.2 system I received a ISPF for VM V3R2 program directory but it seems to be written with VM/XA or VM/SP HPO in mind. So we are looking into the DMSSLG332E message. What we don't know is why the ISPDCS ISPDCSS ISPVM is failing. Please note that this is not ISPF/PDF, just ISPF. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks -- Craig Dudley Manager, Mainframe Technical Support Group Office of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1506Fax 603-271-1516 * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: Question about ISPFVM on z/VM V5R2
In addition to 'Q SEGMENT', 'NUCXMAP' might help at least show what's loaded in the virtual machine. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Dudley Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about ISPFVM on z/VM V5R2 Dave, the returned error code (41) gives a hint...the CMS storage where the ISPF dcss needs to go is already being used by something else. My guest is that your CMS user ids on your new 5.2 system are significantly larger than they were on your old system. Try setting the virtual storage for the CMS guest down below the location of the ISPF dcss and see if that doesn't at least allow ISPF to start. Yeah - it looks like there are some conflicts. Here is a partial of a q nss all map: FILE FILENAME FILETYPE MINSIZE BEGPAG ENDPAG TYPE CL #USERS PARMREGS VMGROUP 0021 NLSGER DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0020 NLSKANJI DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0035 NLSUCENG DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A 0034 NLSAMENG DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 00012 N/A N/A 0049 ISPDCSS DCSS N/A02000 020FF SR A 0 N/A N/A So now I need to figure out how to move the ISPDCSS to a new location. Or move the NLS DCSS. Any ideas as to which is easier? I don't know how to adapt the VM/XA or VM/SP HPO instructions to the newer environment. Are there any more modern instructions for changing the ISPDCSS BEGPAG? -- Thanks Craig DJ Craig Dudley wrote: Hi, I am converting from a z/VM V3R1 system to a z/VM V5R2 system. I have ISPF VM V3R2 on my 3.1 system. I copied all the minidisks from the 3.1 system to the 5.2 system. I SPXTAPEd the ISPDCSS SVM DCSS' from the 3.1 spool to the 5.2 spool. We XAUTOLOGed ISPVM on 5.2 and it came up without any errors on the console log. This was verified by logging onto ISPVM and running the PROFILE manually. When my user tries to invoke ISPF for VM, I get: DMSSLG332E No user additions were loaded RETURN CODE FROM SEGMENT MACRO (LOADSYS) IS 41, SEE YOUR SYTEM PROGRAMMER ISPF DCSS SEGMENT NOT LOADED 81 *-* 'ISPDCS ISPDCSS ISPVM 'arg string +++ RC(998) +++ With my 5.2 system I received a ISPF for VM V3R2 program directory but it seems to be written with VM/XA or VM/SP HPO in mind. So we are looking into the DMSSLG332E message. What we don't know is why the ISPDCS ISPDCSS ISPVM is failing. Please note that this is not ISPF/PDF, just ISPF. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks -- Craig Dudley Manager, Mainframe Technical Support Group Office of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1506Fax 603-271-1516 * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
