Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)

2008-01-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,
sorry for the top post (yahoo go)
I transact on ICICI Bank all the time with firefox 2 on fiesty fawn. haven't 
faced any problems in funds transfer or bill pay

Shamail Tayyab wrote:
 Saurabh Nanda wrote:
 Hi,

 Has anyone been able to successfully transact on the ICICI Netbanking
 website using Firefox 2.0. By transact I mean able to transfer funds,
 etc. Basically anything that requires:

 (a) your transaction password to be entered, or
 (b) the debit card grid verification to be performed).

 My session has consistently been timed out immediately after (a) above.

 While Googling around, I came across a forum where someone claimed
 that due to a JS error the session times out in Firefox 2.0, but the
 site works on Firefox 1.5.

 Does anyone know where I can get a Firefox 1.5 package (or tarball)
 for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I've been trying to search for it, but in
 vain.

 Help will be appreciated,
 Saurabh.
   
 i've paid my Dish TV renewal twice on it. First time the page timed out 
 after cliking OK, though the transaction succeeded. The next time... it 
 worked just fine.
 My be the first time, it was because of some network problem at my side!
 My Browser version is: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; 
 rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)
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[ilugd] please do this, for a free ipod nano

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Re: [ilugd] Disabling Access to Windows OS computer on Ubuntu (linux) Network

2006-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kishore Bhargava wrote:
 Ram,
 
 One very lame way of doing this is to not assign a default gateway for the 
 machine. I have
 seen many Win Admins do this, but like I said its extremely lame. Using 
 iptables of a
 proxy would be a better way. But if its only this one machine, then just 
 remove its
 default gateway and it will not be able to access anything outside your 
 network. However,
 it will access all services on your network.
 
 Cheers...Kishore

Thanks Kishore

one more thing,

a. when I ping the network 192.168.0.255 -b it does not show the windows 
machine , i have to physically go over and get the ip which it self is 
okay but seems dangerous since I don't know which machines are logged in 
? ?? unlike for all the other linux machines.

Also the network is really simple - just an internet server based on 
DHCP being enabled

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Disabling Access to Windows OS computer on Ubuntu (linux) Network

2006-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Akshay Lamba wrote:
 
 
 Probably multiple way's of doing this, here's some off the cuff:
 1. Provide it with an IP tied up with it's MAC (or a static IP) and then
 create a iptables (firewall) rule to drop all packets from that IP.
 2. Use squid and squidguard to allow/disallow internet access.
 
 Akshay
 
I cannot see the machine when pinging the broadcast ip

also our network is really simple and I don't know what it entails to 
set up squid

thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] Cannot play VCD on Ubuntu 5.10

2006-03-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
विवेक ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote:
 ram,
 have you tried playing the VC using the menu item saying play vcd or 
 something?
 It should just play fine.
 
 
Hi Vivek

Tried all 3 suggestions as give

But I reinstalled a whole lot od lib and gstreamer and other related 
files from a ubuntu beginners link

but got errors for w32codes and libdvdcss2

however now when I use the comman line xine or totem vcd:// it works ok

but with mplayer I get some message saying that I need to install more stuff

May be I just need to install mplayer all over again

thanks


message while trying to use mplayer:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mplayer vcd://
MPlayer dev-CVS--4.0.2 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Celeron 2/Pentium III Coppermine,Geyserville (Family: 6, 
Stepping: 6)Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled for Debian.


86 audio  200 video codecs
Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
Try adding echo 1024  /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq to your system 
startup scripts.
Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
Setting up LIRC support...
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support.
You will not be able to use your remote control.
Playing vcd://.
track 01:  adr=1  ctrl=4  format=2  00:02:00  mode: 0
track 02:  adr=1  ctrl=4  format=2  00:18:58  mode: 0
Cache fill: 19.51% (204512 bytes)RAWDV file format detected.
VIDEO:  [DVSD]  720x480  24bpp  29.970 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==
Trying to force audio codec driver family libmad...
Opening audio decoder: [libdv] Raw DV Audio Decoder
Unknown/missing audio format - no sound
ADecoder init failed :(
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
Cannot find codec 'dvaudio' in libavcodec...
ADecoder init failed :(
ADecoder init failed :(
Cannot find codec for audio format 0x56444152.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
==
vo: X11 running at 1400x1050 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (:0.0 = local 
display)
==
Opening video decoder: [dshow] DirectShow video codecs
Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: qdv.dll, /usr/lib/win32/qdv.dll, 
/usr/local/lib/win32/qdv.dll
Warning: DS_Filter() could not open DirectShow DLL.  (DLL=qdv.dll, 
r=0x87e37b8)
Failed to create DirectShow filter
ERROR: Could not open required DirectShow codec qdv.dll.
You need to upgrade/install the binary codecs package.
Go to http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/dload.html
VDecoder init failed :(
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffdv] vfm:ffmpeg (FFmpeg DV decoder)
==
Audio: no sound
Starting playback...
V:   0.0   0/  0 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0 0%

Exiting... (End of file)
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[ilugd] Cannot play VCD on Ubuntu 5.10

2006-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

This is an old bug bear
back to haunt me yet again

Am running Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy on a Compaq Armada E 500.

I just received a VCD with the following files / folders

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/cdrom0$ ls -aR
.:
.  ..  cdi  ext  mpegav  segment  vcd

./cdi:
.  ..  cdi_imag.rtf  cdi_text.fnt  cdi_vcd.app  cdi_vcd.cfg

./ext:
.  ..  lot_x.vcd  psd_x.vcd  scandata.dat

./mpegav:
.  ..  avseq01.dat

./segment:
.  ..

./vcd:
.  ..  entries.vcd  info.vcd  lot.vcd  psd.vcd

***
The biggest data file is avseq01.dat

neither totem , or mplayer or Xine recognize this and I am unable to
play it ???

what do I need to do to get this running

I checked out google and got this link for exactly the same problem
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-94863.html

I installed gstreamer and totem managed to play it , but quite badly 
then I tried installing totem-xine and it went and stooped even playing 
jerkily
and tried to install everything but have not been able to apt-get 
w32codecs or libdvdcss2 -


so now what do I need to do to get ordinary vcd's to play.

Thanks
ram



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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tanveer Singh wrote:

 
 About the native language stuff, people here have lots of native languages.
 So people suggesting - Get out of colonial hangup should write their mails
 in all 15 languages specified in the constitution so as mails are understood
 by all of us. The orignal poster can take the lead and start sending out his
 mails in 15 languages :D

am not sure that the original poster meant what you describe. Maybe he 
meant if you are writing in a native language write using the original 
langauge script and the fonts available in that language

If one were to read letters written in other languages (not romanized 
versions) then one often sees similar use of nativized english (other 
language words). To some extent this is visble even in regional language 
newspapers.

Just because we can't read / write / speak other languages does mean we 
  lump all of them together and stick to one langauge beyond which we 
think its the end of the world.

We need to make the effort to try it out in our own lives to start with.

ram

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[ilugd] Error is Using ufraw

2006-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I apt-get installed ufraw, a tool to process raw images created using a 
digital camera.

It worked fine once -

after that i get the following error message
  ufraw

(ufraw:16083): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib

(ufraw:16083): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers

*Floating point exception*


When I use the command line to open an image using ufraw it accesses the 
image and when i do a save it just goes blink and i get the 
floating point exception message


what should I do to figure out whats wrong.

***
On another note for nikon digital camera users this is a cool tool to 
process the .nef (raw images)

thanks

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Reinstalling Ubuntu on dual booted machine

2006-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
विवेक ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote:
 actually one could do so ... with the CD by changing the CD references
 from one CD to another.
 but the beter way of handling this .. is to keep you home directory(I
 would reccomend it to be home directory partition) intact and  install
 on the / partition.
 cheers
 vivek
 
 On 3/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Gaurav wrote:

why not this ..
1)change all references in your /etc/apt/sources.list from warty
tohoary
2) sudo apt-get  update
3) sudo apt-get -f upgrade

Hi

Managed successfully to install Ubuntu Breezy. Was worried till it asked 
  that there were other OS's it recognized and said I should go ahead 
and overwirite the MBR allowing for access to the other OS as well.

Thanks

But my problems don't end there

The T43 hangs when restarted from Hibernate, theres no sound

so am working on those now.

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Reinstalling Ubuntu on dual booted machine

2006-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
विवेक ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote:
 actually one could do so ... with the CD by changing the CD references
 from one CD to another.
 but the beter way of handling this .. is to keep you home directory(I
 would reccomend it to be home directory partition) intact and  install
 on the / partition.
 cheers
 vivek
Ah! Forgot
Yes I did that so there was not much downtime couple of hours and the 
machine was back to normal - (well almost if no sound is normal)

ram


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Re: [ilugd] T43 hibernate and free problems (rethreaded)

2006-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
am rethreading since the topic is changing

Sudev Barar wrote:
 On 03/03/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
But my problems don't end there
The T43 hangs when restarted from Hibernate, theres no sound
 
 
 First confirm that acpi is working. One simple way I try is by cat
 /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info or cat
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
 Maybe gurus can point out better command here.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
present: yes
design capacity: 51840 mWh
last full capacity:  47870 mWh
battery technology:  rechargeable
design voltage:  10800 mV
design capacity warning: 2393 mWh
design capacity low: 200 mWh
capacity granularity 1:  1 mWh
capacity granularity 2:  1 mWh
model number:IBM-92P1087
serial number:1988
battery type:LION
OEM info:SANYO

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/t
temperature  trip_points
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
temperature: 48 C


what to make of this

ram


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[ilugd] Reinstalling Ubuntu on dual booted machine

2006-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I need to install ( upgrade) from Ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 (Breezy) on a 
Thinkpad T 43 machine. Which is dual booted with Win XP.

Do I proceed with a normal install or is there any precautions I should 
take, to ensure that WiN XP remains and I don't have to fiddle around 
with it.

Thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] Reinstalling Ubuntu on dual booted machine

2006-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Akshay Lamba wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 13:36 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Do I proceed with a normal install or is there any precautions I should 
take, to ensure that WiN XP remains and I don't have to fiddle around 
with it.
 
 
 I upgraded in a similar setup and it pretty much worked intuitively.
 
 Akshay

Thanks for the encouragement
here I go

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Reinstalling Ubuntu on dual booted machine

2006-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sudev Barar wrote:
 Just go and install. Ubuntu prompts for dual booting.
 --
Thanks for the encouragement

here i go

:)
ram

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Re: [ilugd] Reinstalling Ubuntu on dual booted machine

2006-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gaurav wrote:
 why not this ..
 1)change all references in your /etc/apt/sources.list from warty
 tohoary
 2) sudo apt-get  update 
 3) sudo apt-get -f upgrade
 
1. No bandwidth

2. whatever little rading I have done says don't upgrade

3. There is a little problem of some maybe corrupted files and am 
wondering if a windows type solution of a totally fresh reinstall will 
solve the problem

regards
ram

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Re: [ilugd] Directory repated / mirrored / copied problems in Ubuntu 5.04 on Thinkpad T 43

2006-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gora Mohanty wrote:
 Heh, thanks for the headscratch. I think what you are seeing is an
 effect of symbolic links. If I understand your description above
 correctly, you can get the same effect by doing
   mkdir ~/mydir
   ln -s ~/mydir ~/mydir  # Create a symlink to itself within the dir.
   touch ~/mydir/a ~/mydir/b   # Create some sample files
 Is this what you mean? This might have happened due to some 
 misconfigured package. You can tell whether ~/mydir/mydir is a symlink
 by doing a ls -l ~/mydir which would show an arrow in the name of
 the symlink. It is probably OK to remove it, unless the package is 
 somehow dependent on it. In any case, it does no harm to leave it in
 place.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/theo/Troubled_files # cd delhi\ fes\ mtg/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/theo/Troubled_files/delhi fes mtg # ls -l
total 6648
-rwxrwxrwx   1 theo theo   25600 2005-09-02 09:01 Declaration.doc
drwxrwxrwx  12 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 delhi fes mtg
-rwxrwxrwx   1 theo theo  101888 2005-09-02 09:01 Dharchula29Oct04.doc
-rwxrwxrwx   1 theo theo  286720 2005-09-02 09:01 final report.doc
-rwxrwxrwx   1 theo theo 3531375 2005-09-02 09:01 full_report.pdf
drwxrwxrwx   2 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 gallif
drwxrwxrwx   2 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 Gallif-25April05
-rwxrwxrwx   1 theo theo   37376 2005-09-02 09:01 hrworkplanjune05.doc
drwxrwxrwx   6 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 medplantheofin
drwxrwxrwx  12 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 medplantsrep
-rwxrwxrwx   1 theo theo   29696 2005-09-02 09:01 rst meet 27th july.doc
drwxrwxrwx   3 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 theofc2tofc3
drwxrwxrwx   5 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 theo_ta_bill
drwxrwxrwx   2 theo theo4096 2005-09-02 09:01 wildmeat
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/theo/Troubled_files/delhi fes mtg #

***
So I can't see any symbolic links but what is visible is the strange 
directory name delhi\ fes\ mtg/ so I renamed the folder to delhi_fes_mtg 
and it seems to have solved one level of problems at least. Now I had 
repeat directories only till the 5 level, which I have deleted and now 
have one hopefully clean directory.

Though I still don't understand why this should happen -

thanks
ram
 
 Regards,
 Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Directory repated / mirrored / copied problems Head Scracth Continues

2006-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gora Mohanty wrote:
 
 Don't know then. If your description is accurate, this makes little
 sense. Spaces in a directory/file name are quite valid, and I do not
 know why renaming it would change things. One thing that you should
 probably do right away is unmount the directory (if it is mounted
 somewhere other than below /), and run fsck on the partition. If the
 directory is just a sub-directory on /, use a live CD or distro CD
 in rescue mode, and run fsck on /. File-system corruption could
 conceivably be a source of this problem, though I do not see how it
 would lead to the symptoms that you describe.
 
 Regards,
 Gora
 
 
 
Hi

Well after thinking that the problem was solved and needing to run fsck 
I cam across the same probblem.

1. The offending folders (now up from one to 2) were sourced from a USB 
Disk - 256 MB Capacity.

When we load the disk and try and check its size in properties the size 
continues running upto 2.3 gb and then it slowly creeps up.

I tried to delete it from the USB Disk it said permission denied ,

I chmod 777 'ed the entre disk and was operating from sudo - and then 
tried to delete it it simply refused.

So I have isolated the USB Disk (keeping it safely in my inner pocket) 
but there are residual problems. That similar files exists in the 
backups I had taken earlier.

So If I run fsck , what precautions should I take - and how should I go 
about it.

regards
ram

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[ilugd] FTP Transactions not working on Fire Fox

2006-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I needed to upload some data via an ftp site.

Am using firefox ( the instructions say that we should use I.E 6 and above).

First I am supposed to be able to upload data by dragging a folder onto 
this site and it would then copy the contents using FTP

I accessed this once and dragged the said folder across to copy to the 
totally blank area - it showed activity for quite a while and then blank.

After this when I now try and access this site it asks for a username 
and password - which it seems has not been enabled (meaning it should be 
operational without these requirements)

To check what would happen if I used I.E I went to a Win XP machine and 
everything worked as it was supposed to

The ftp site opened up and showed lots of data that had been uploaded. I 
took me no time to upload my data and also it asked for no password etc.

***
So assuming this site was designed only for I.E could there have been a 
way I could have transferred these files using a linux based machine and 
  browser.

In the mean time I have to sit in front on windows and this time I am 
wincing

ram


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[ilugd] Directory repated / mirrored / copied problems in Ubuntu 5.04 on Thinkpad T 43

2006-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

For some time now there is a strange problem that is recurring on a 
Thinkpad T 43 running Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary.

One particular directory repeats it self within itself many many times. 
I gave up trying to count at some 40th level or so.

The contents of the directory withing the directory are the same and if 
any file is deleted from any of the mirrored / copied / imaged 
(imagined) directories it also gets deleted from the main (first directory)

so any tips on this error.

thanks
ram

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[ilugd] Hibernation problem in Compaq E 500 Laptop running Ubuntu 5.10

2006-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Am running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) on a Compaq Armada E 500 laptop. The 
hibernate option is enabled, some times after restarting the computer 
from this hibernated position all I get is a blank screen. I can access 
alternative login prompts using the Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2 etc keys) and can 
login but when I try startx command it says X session is already 
enabled. Using the Ctrl+Alt+F7 Key I can go back to the session that was 
supposed to come out of hibernation but its still a blank screen.

So what can I do to figure out
a. Why this is happening.
b. If I can login using an alternate prompt are there tools I could use 
to stop the main session and restart another session.

thanks
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[ilugd] ACPI / acpid error

2006-02-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I am getting this error message on a Thinkpad T 43 running Ubuntu 5.04

Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI 
subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running

Did a google search and found similar errors posted but no easy solution.

Problem is I don't understand what the problem is because this is a 
recent error.

Some of the links I checked were (or where I found a mention to this error)
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51014highlight=access+ACPI+events

http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~alorca/linux2onlaptop.html

So can someone suggest what news to be done

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Re: [ilugd] Problem in installing Linux on SATA drive

2006-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ankit Kumar Sharma wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have a Intel p-4 machine and i m trying to install RH linux on it.
 Installer is unable to detect the SATA drive and returns error. Should I use
 other distro to work on this SATA drive?
 
 Thanks and regards
 anki
Hi

There are already many replies but just for morale

we have two P4 Machines with SATA drives both are running Ubuntu 5.04 - 
there were no problems in stetting it up. One machine has recently been 
upgraded to Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) no problems again.

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Re: [ilugd] Meeting with Mark Shuttleworth and Klaus Knopper

2006-02-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Mathur wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks to Kishore's efforts, both Klaus Knopper and Mark Shuttleworth
 have agreed to meet with ILUGD members and supporters.  The details
 are as under:
 
 Event:Meet Mark Shuttleworth and Klaus Knopper

WOW

Great going ILUGD

all the folks who attend have a good time

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Others: Very Cool Tool to convert Images to HTML

2006-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
 At 2006-01-28 15:02:50 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Dont mean to pick nits but your subject made me very interested in
something that is converting images to HTML [...]

indeed such thing exists.

http://www.text-image.com/convert/
 
 
 As it happens, I'm working on something that can be accurately described
 as an image-to-HTML converter. It takes one-bit-colour (PGM) images, and
 outputs an HTML block containing Braille character references that look
 like the input image. :-)
 
 -- ams
 
So when can we have a look :)

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Others: Very Cool Tool to convert Images to HTML

2006-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ankur Rohatgi wrote:
 Dont mean to pick nits but your subject made me very interested in
 something that is converting images to HTML, now that i had to see.
 
 It is just an image gallery creator so something like that in the
 subject line would have kept my heart from missing a beat :).
 
I don't understand enough but thanks to your query
oops goes my dream

I thought that the html files created were actually what we could pass 
around, so on a sample folder I deleted one of the image files on which 
the html was based and boing the image disappeared from the slide show 
as well ( rather a blank screen ) :(

now I know why you missed a heart beat. mine is beating back the 
shattered dreams as well.

ram



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Re: [ilugd] Gnome-Dictionary does not not work offline

2006-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj shekhar wrote:
 in infinite wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thus on 01/25/06 20:00:
 
I checked the settings and the following are the two options that are shown

Default Server: dict.org
Port 2628

I have unchecked all the websites options so that it works always offline.

So whats wrong and what should i do to make sure that the dictionary 
works offline.
 
 
 Nothing wrong - it works as designed :-) . I am not sure if there are 
 any offline dictionaries available.  If you want spell checking, aspell 
 can do that. (do info aspell for the fine manual)

Thats a bit of a sad blow for folks like me who don't have decent 
internet connections.

Its there someother option of locally getting the databases making it 
pretend that its working online ???

thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] linux interview questions

2006-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shiv wrote:
 hi,
   i interview a lt of ppl on linux  solaris and i can tell you no muggin up 
 will help.
   within 5 qs its wasy to make ouot whether someone has actually worked  in a 
 linux environment or just heard aboout it from friends
 
Out of curiosity (i have no intention of applying for a sys admin job) 
what are the 5 q's you would normally asked. ;)

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Working Solution for Gnome-Dictionary does not not work offline

2006-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Uh, just run dictd locally and set your preferred server to 127.0.0.1,
 then you'll be able to use the local dictionaries.

Done thats and Whoopy it works , tested it by going offline and sure 
enough it works.

Ubuntu 5.10 (DVD ) had in its repositories some of the dictionaries and 
a Thesaurus as pointed out in the link sent by Abhijit

 
 You might need to configure dictd a bit (tell it what dictionaries are
 available, etc) -- it's been a long time since I ran it locally.
seems easy enough in the gnome-dictionary preference - too easy in fact 
so am i missing anything

thanks and regards
ram

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[ilugd] Gnome-Dictionary does not not work offline

2006-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I recentnly installed some data bases

dict-moby-thesaurus
dictd - the dictionary server
dict-dcide an English dictionary
  and a few others

I thought that these would work offline. In fact if not for the error 
message today, I am sure I even used it offline.

However today, while working offline I got the following error message


Unable to perform requested operation.

Either the server you are using is not available
or you are not connected to the Internet.
*

I checked the settings and the following are the two options that are shown

Default Server: dict.org
Port 2628

I have unchecked all the websites options so that it works always offline.

So whats wrong and what should i do to make sure that the dictionary 
works offline.

regards
ram



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[ilugd] Others: Very Cool Tool to convert Images to HTML

2006-01-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I received this link - its truly an amazing programme

Ubuntu / Debian Users Could try apt-get install igal

it worked for me and am amazed at its efficiency and how it creates 
slides shows on html files.

***
original message:
An amazing program to get your prints on html. I could not get gwenview 
top work very well - definitely try this!
R
http://www.stanford.edu/~epop/igal/igalman.html



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Re: [ilugd] Error in SSH POrt 22 is Closed

2006-01-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
विवेक ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote:
 ok this actually means.. that you have ssh-client installed but not ssh server
 To install ssh server package, you need to run this command line or
 use synaptic/any apt tool to install openssh-server .
 
 command
 apt-get install openssh-server
 /command
 
 Hope this helps
 cheers
 Vivek

Yes it does and everything is up and running

Thanks
ram
 


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Re: [ilugd] Error in SSH POrt 22 is Closed

2006-01-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Naresh Narang wrote:
Can I edit ssh_config and remove the # in front of
the line
Host *
#   ForwardAgent no
big snip
#   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
#   *Port 22*
#   Protocol 2,1
 
 
 
 Can you post the output of rpm -qa|grep ssh
 
here it is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ rpm-qa|grep ssh
bash: rpm-qa: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ rpm-qa |grep ssh
bash: rpm-qa: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ rpm-qa | grep ssh
bash: rpm-qa: command not found


anyway the solution's been posted in one of the previous mails
meaning it just had to install openssh-server and that solved this 
particular problem

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] Error in SSH POrt 22 is Closed

2006-01-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
V Vivek wrote:
 Ram,
 Ubuntu package management does not support rpm(redhat package manager). 
 in ubuntu
 command
  dpkg -L openssh-server
 dokg -L packagename
 /command
 would give you similar results.
 

 Can you post the output of rpm -qa|grep ssh
 
 

Hi Vivek,

*The solution you provided earlier worked well* ,it took me about 10 
seconds or less per machine. So no worries,

I did not want to sound rude, by not answering, when someone was asking 
for outputs to help so I posted it. and also said that my problem has 
already been solved by an earlier

Thanks for the dpkg solution, will do it for other programmes.

cheers
ram

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Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format

2006-01-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Linux For You  december Issue I think has a article on Data Recovery 
from crashed hard Disks. Its probably not for novices but gives a fairly 
good over view of the effort involved and what could be done.

Sorry I don't know if there is a link to it on the net but you could 
check out the magazine or the LFy website.

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Re: [ilugd] Error in SSH POrt 22 is Closed

2006-01-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
V Vivek wrote:
 Ram,
 You need to start the ssh daemon for the port to be open for access.
 
How ???

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.9 port 22: Connection refused
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
   
 
 This means that sshhd is not running. try starting it using command 
 //etc/init.d/ssh start /command
 
There is no directory / file like that as below:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /etc/init.d/s*
/etc/init.d/screen-cleanup  /etc/init.d/skeleton   /etc/init.d/sysklogd
/etc/init.d/sendsigs/etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd
/etc/init.d/single  /etc/init.d/sudo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
however there is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /etc/ssh
moduli  ssh_config
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
  so in this case how do I start it up.

Can I edit ssh_config and remove the # in front of the line
Host *
#   ForwardAgent no
big snip
#   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
#   *Port 22*
#   Protocol 2,1
big snip

would this work

Though I think there is something amiss in this method.

Also would I need to similaly start other services ,
thanks
ram



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[ilugd] Other-Legal Question regarding download of files

2006-01-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I was curious about the legal aspect of the following situation.

Suppose the website of X organization has a section for downloads and a 
download is available of a files of documents and publications which 
have also been printed and published and is being sold as well. And that 
this download section has no restrictions, any one can find it and make 
a download (no passwords , no registering etc). And Person *C* after 
downloading the file makes it available on another website. Then what 
are the legal implications

Can the original website owner prevent such a move.

Further if *X's* site does not have any legal disclaimers saying 
anything about downloads etc what effect would it have.

The printed out documents may themselves be Copyrighted under various 
laws etc but if people have access to a scan of the same and do not 
share the print out or display it in supposed gross voilation of piracy 
of printed material then what are the implications.

And what happens when the original site withdraws the download and it 
continues to be available at other non official location.

And finally what happens if someone from outside the source country 
places such files as a download , what laws are applicable.

thanks
ram

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[ilugd] Error in SSH POrt 22 is Closed

2006-01-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I recently upgraded, 3 machines, to Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy. I cannot use ssh 
to connect to other computers using 5.10 on the network. The following 
is the error message

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.9 port 22: Connection refused
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

I did a port scan and found that the following services were open on the 
machine

PortState   Service
139 opennetbios-ssn
445 openmicrosoft-ds

On another machine running Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary
the following ports are open
PortState   Service
22  openssh
25  opensmtp
53  opendomain
110 openpop3
111 opensunrpc
139 opennetbios-ssn
445 openmicrosoft-ds
697 openunknown
886 openunknown
2049openunknown

So two queries
1 How do i get the ports to be open
and
2. What are the implications of these various open ports and do I need 
to close any of them

thanks
ram


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Re: [ilugd] Linux and Laptops -- Help required

2006-01-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Akshay Lamba wrote:
 I would recommend that you run a live CD on the model before purchasing
 just to make sure there isn't any glaring incompatibilities.
 

Would it be possible to have a list of To Do's when running a Live CD to 
see if everything (well almost) works.

There are so many different feature to be checked it would be helpful 
for some of us who have a hard time getting the linux unfriendly 
hardware to start running.

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[ilugd] Downloading Websites

2006-01-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Its there a programme through which its possible to download an entire 
website.

I tried Downloader for X and it started doing something so am asking for 
suggestions, advice.

thanks
ram

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[ilugd] Ubuntu 5.10 - Universe Packages

2005-12-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy on two machines. By and large the CD 
contains much of what is required, However a lot more seem to be 
accessible only through the universe repository option over the net.

Is it possible to get these repositories (the universe ones) on an add 
on CD or something. Considering that the internet connection we have is 
not really suitable for large scale downloads. And if such a CD is 
available (for download , replication etc) would it carry more than just 
the Universe repository options.

Any ideas


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Re: [ilugd] Waiting for a child to die

2005-12-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 Your subject line got me really confused. :-)
 
 rrs
 
Same here

it got me quite upset actually.

ram

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[ilugd] Formatting External USB Hardisk

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I want to format a 80 GB External Harddisk as a backup drive to be 
accessible by both Linux and Wincedows. Is using FAT32 a good option 
(considering that having to allow access from wincedows is a necessity 
for the time being).

Secondly : are there an restrictions on how large the FAT32 partition 
can be .

Thirdly will rsync work to back up from a ext3 drive to a FAT32 drive 
and how reliable will this be

Lastly is this the right command

cfdisk /media/usbdisk**

I am using Ubuntu 5.04


will appreciate the advice / suggestions

thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] Adding Hindi 5.10

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I installed all packages for Hindi in Ubuntu-5.10 including IIIMF and 
 /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dev
 
 

Hi
I am riding on this mail but the query is a bit different.

I too want to install Hindi on ubuntu 5.10 so what do I need to do.

***
Secondly how come Hindi is not part of the original bundling in 5.10. 
??? while there are many other indian languages

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[ilugd] Messaging Rules in Thunderbird

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I use Thunderbird 1.0.2.

And am part of different mailling lists. In some of these I need to send 
copies to a fixed set of receipients over and above the main receipient.

Is there a way I can make a mailing rule that if a mail is being sent to 
*x address* it should always be cc'ed bcc'ed to the some other  y and z's

Can't seem to see if such a facility exists, will appreciate help from 
other thunderbirders

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] Messaging Rules in Thunderbird

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shiv wrote:
 hi,
   not too sure about rules. there is a facility in the address book that lets 
 you create a list of email addresses. 
   I generally use these to send out mail to standard recipients. eg.
   if i had to send out mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and also want it to be cc'ed 
 to 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] I create a list in the address book 
 with  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that i just type the list 
 name in the cc  field and thunderbird does the rest. The obvious drawback 
 with this  method is that i cannot dynamically create a list. The list has to 
 be  created beforehand but I can live with that!!!
   
Thanks

I can live with that too :)

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Making an Interactive CD

2005-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 On Wednesday, 21 Dec 2005 12:47 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nope. Use the browser to check the links. Openoffice cannot handle all the 
 content-type a typical browser can handle. Just because OOo cannot handle a 
 linked resource doesnt mean that the browser will have the same problem.
 Use openoffice to only check links pointing to text within the same document 
 i.e. internal links.
 
Yep realized that, so have to keep accessing the file in a browser to 
check the links. was just wondering if there was an html editor that 
would allow the same behaviour as a browser, thats why the question.

ram


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Re: [ilugd] requiring centos cd in dec meet

2005-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Akshay,
No i havent cheked about ubuntu. Actually i am having a serer running on
RHEL . So i want a OS similar to it for mine local PC, so a friend
suggested me of centos as it is redhat based, he said ubuntu is debian
based. I do not know the difference between those redhat based and debian
based. Anyway if you have ubuntu i can install that also , if u suggest.
Also pl. give me details from where i can get it.
Friends i will be really happy if one can give me that CDs now before the
meet ASAP . Mine contact no. is 9350893331.
Expecting a reply.
--
Regards
Abhishek Jain

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From: Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:02:11 +0530
To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Subject: Re: [ilugd] requiring centos cd in dec meet


On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 08:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 I do require centos 64 bit edition cds for myself, if anyone can bring it
 at dec meet i shall be very grateful.
 I wont mind paying for it.
 Also I am having AMD Athlon 64 bit PC can anyone suggest me an appropriate
Have you considered the 64 bit ubuntu?

Akshay


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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Was interested in knowing more about some of the points raised by Gora.

I cannot come for the Dec 25 meet so would appreciate posts on the list 
it self


Gora Mohanty wrote:
 Hi,
At the ILUG-D meeting on the 25th,
 I would also like to have an open discussion on the following items:
   1. Mentoring student programmers in FOSS: snipped

   2. Better collaboration with other LUGs, the National Resource
   Centre for FOSS (NRCF), and other parties.

What is the NRCF about , what resources does it provide

   3. Helping organizations migrate to Linux.

Having migrated to Linux am interested to know what are the strategies 
organizations are adopting and what problems are being faced. Particular 
interest is in organizations that do not have Sys Admin skills and those 
that are deploying at the user / desktop level. And those that are 
migrating their legacy hardware as well.


 I would be glad to prepare a short presentation outlining these areas,
 but getting involved in any of these would require a concerted effort
 on the part of ILUG-D members.

would it be possible to upload the presentation to the ILUG website so 
that some of us remote members may access it.

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] Making an Interactive CD

2005-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shiv wrote:
 Hi,
   I would suggest that you use LaTex to generate the document (CD). and  then 
 use latex2html to generate the html;   hyperlinking/crossreferences etc are 
 all available in LaTex.  www.ctan.org should give you more ideas.
 
Why can;t I use OpenOffice web writer and save as html with all the 
links an all intact. Have never used latex so find OOo easier

Secondly i will be crating many interlinked pages so don't know how 
thats will work in latex

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] Making an Interactive CD

2005-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 On Monday, 19 Dec 2005 9:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Was Using Open Office writer / web to save pages as HTML and was
creating hyperlinks to a set of folders, images and other HTML pages.
 
 
 Also take a look at nvu (http://www.nvu.com/), a WYSIWYG HTML editor.
 
will take a look at it - thanks
 When links are meant to be used in a browser, why are you trying to visit 
 them 
 within OOo?

To see whether the links work
 
 Try to see that you use relative links to the images and other contents.
 
Thanks
 Are you unable to edit hyperlinks within OOo itself? Try keeping your cursor 
 in the middle of a hyperlink text, and then click the hyperlink button.
 
thanks again
 
 - Sandip
 


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[ilugd] Making an Interactive CD

2005-12-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi
Am reposting this mail , because am not sure if it reached the list the 
first time (as there were no responses)

Was trying to figure out what all it takes to make an interactive CD.

Was Using Open Office writer / web to save pages as HTML and was
creating hyperlinks to a set of folders, images and other HTML pages.

So are there any guides to designing a simple interactive cd with the
following requistes

1. HTML based index pages

2. Images and links to bigger images

3. Links to Documents as PDF files (so how will the pdf files open)

and how to make sure that all these links work on the final cd

So what would be the simple tools and techniques that would help make /
design CD's. Is there a better software than OOo , but as simple.

Some of the problems I have faced till now are

1. Was trying to make a hyperlink to a pdf file in an HTMl file.

When I am editing the html file in open office and try and open the link
  to the pdf file I get the following error message.

No Corresponding External Application could be found for the given file
type.
Please Check the Open Office.org settings

But when I open the same link using a browser the link offers to open or
save.

2. After making hyperlinks I am unable to edit them


3. Some of the images I used in the HTML files are Jpeg and png ,
however when I copy the whole set of files to another location the png
images remain but the jpeg images show up as just a small nothing
icon. So should I use only png's

Any solutions to this.

Will appreciate any pointers and advice

thanks




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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
Can i get Centos 64 bit CDs in the meet at 25/12/2005 or earlier than that.
Can someone bring that for me. if yes pl. pl. do contact me.

I hope i am not dilluting the subject as i want to be in the meet to get
the CDs.
--
Regards
Abhishek Jain

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From: vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- Supreet Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Suggestions welcome

 Can you cover Gnu make, how to generate/buld
makefiles etc etc.

regards
VK


Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have  a
solution in search of a problem.


http://creative.linux-delhi.org

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[ilugd] How to Print Images files to PDF

2005-12-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I do a lot of scanning of documents. But need to convert them into PDF 
so that they can be combined and kept to gether.

GIMP does not have an export to PDf option . I checked their manual and 
could not find a reference to PDF.

Is there some tool I could use to to convert jpeg files to pdf.

or is there a simple method when scanning to save straight to pdf.

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] How to Print Images files to PDF

2005-12-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sudev Barar wrote:
 
 May not be best but open OpenOffice document, import images and save
 as PDF file.
 
 --
 Sudev Barar
 Learning Linux
 

Seems like an option

will try and let ou know

thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] How to Print Images files to PDF

2005-12-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
Is there some tool I could use to to convert jpeg files to pdf.

or is there a simple method when scanning to save straight to pdf.

 
 
 would this be useful?
 
jpegtopnm image.jpg  image.pnmstall.pnm
pnmtops image.pnm  image.ps
ps2pdf image.ps image.pdf
 

easier to save directly to ps and then to pdf

 offcourse it could be turned into a simple shell script!

that sounds like something for the long run


thanks
ram
 
 Karunakar
 


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[ilugd] Making an Interactive CD

2005-12-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Was trying to figure out what all it takes to make an interactive CD.

Was Using Open Office writer / web to save pages as HTML and was
creating hyperlinks to a set of folders, images and other HTML pages.

So are there any guides to designing a simple interactive cd with the
following requistes

1. HTML based index pages

2. Images and links to bigger images

3. Links to Documents as PDF files (so how will the pdf files open)

and how to make sure that all these links work on the final cd

So what would be the simple tools and techniques that would help make /
design CD's. Is there a better software than OOo , but as simple.

Some of the problems I have faced till now are

1. Was trying to make a hyperlink to a pdf file in an HTMl file.

When I am editing the html file in open office and try and open the link 
  to the pdf file I get the following error message.

No Corresponding External Application could be found for the given file 
type.
Please Check the Open Office.org settings

But when I open the same link using a browser the link offers to open or 
save.

2. After making hyperlinks I am unable to edit them


3. Some of the images I used in the HTML files are Jpeg and png , 
however when I copy the whole set of files to another location the png 
images remain but the jpeg images show up as just a small nothing 
icon. So should I use only png's

Any solutions to this.

Will appreciate any pointers and advice

thanks


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Re: [ilugd] Two questions regarding auto run cd's

2005-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mayank Jain wrote:
 
 Yeah, wine is nice. With all the efforts of crossover office being
 poured back into wine, I think, wine is now mature enough  should be
 able to do it easily.

Good old wine in good old bottles.
Lets drink and make merry for yet another wincedows killer

regards
ram
 
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[ilugd] Two questions regarding auto run cd's

2005-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Two queries:

1. Most autorun CD's that are available with public information - 
Government departments esp. Are all designed for Wincedows. Is there any 
way to run them on GNU/Linux (Wine etc)

2. IS there a way to design a CD / DVD that could auto run on more than 
one OS platform (actually am only interested in Wincedows and GNu/Linux 
as yet)

thanks and regards
ram




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[ilugd] Blackberry and Linux

2005-12-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

was curious to know if anyone of the list knows of blackberry being used 
with Linux OS. and if so what are the reviews etc.

and was seeing on the net that there is anothr device called Treo.

How do the two compare.

would appreciate your various opinions.

and Yes I did a search on the net and am then asking the list.

regards
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[ilugd] 2 problems in Thunderbird

2005-11-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Am facing two problems in Thunderbird 1.0.2 on Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)

1. After reading all the mails the in folder continues to show unread 
mails (*in bold and brackets*) they disappear some time later or 
sometimes remain till the next lot of mails get downloaded.

2. The inbox takes a long time to load , after start up of Thunderbird.

will appreciate knowing what is wrong and how to rectify.

regards
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[ilugd] How to know what kind of server / os a website is being served from

2005-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Will browsing the net some icons appear on the address bar, before the 
address, sometimes its the Linux penguin, other times other icons.

So a few related questions:
1. Do they indicate anything

It also brought to mind whether the websites with the Penguin where 
served by a linux server etc.

and finally how would / could  one make out what kind of server or OS 
are the webpages, websites based on / served from.

I am not sure if I have scripted the questions well but am asking anyways

thanks and regards
ram

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[ilugd] Continuation of websites related mail

2005-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HI

Missed this part out


am using firefox

many sites are displayed well, but in many more the display of the sites 
gets a bit wierd , icons and para's overlap, text runs over each other etc.

So how does one make out if the website (pages) are designed to be 
displayed well in non IE ( e)   open source web browers.

thanks again

ram

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Re: [ilugd] How to know what kind of server / os a website is being served from

2005-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may read up more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon

Quick ways include: curl -I http://india.gov.in  (try it  :)  ).
Also look at http://httptype.sourceforge.net/  by Philip.


Regards,
Manish
*
Raj Mathur wrote:
 
 It's probably the favicon.ico, a feature initiated by internet
 exploder 

 telnet server 80
 HEAD / HTTP/1.0
 
 Usually gives a good idea.
 

 
 Regards,
 
 -- Raju

***
if you use standard css - firefox displays it well, but not ie. Good
designers add tweaks for ie. Bad designers only design for ie -
which is not standard css and displays badly on firefox

-- regards kg

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Thanks for all the responses -

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Re: [ilugd] EXT3-fs error, unablet o read inode blocks

2005-11-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Shekhar wrote:
 in infinite wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thus  On 11/18/2005
 04:01 PM:
 
The choice is yours to make depending on what you have easily available
at your end.


Will try and let you know -
 
 
 What happened after this ?  I would really like to know how you solved
 the problem.  Since you noted that you were getting an error which was
 something like 'cannot find /proc' - I had a suggestion.  Once I had
 deleted /dev/ttyS0 by mistake.  To solve the problem - I did a 'cd /dev'
 and then 'make /dev/ttyS0' .  Maybe you can try doing a 'make /proc' and
 then checking if it gets recreated.
 
Have not yet tried anything -
will post the results of what I do as soon as it gets done.

regards
ram


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Re: [ilugd] What option for a 486 (win 95) machine

2005-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
M.Balakrishna Pillai wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:56 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi

What would be a good GNU/linux OS option for a standalone 486 machine, 
32 mb RAM , currently running win 95.
 
 
 If you mean distribution ?
 Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (Potato)
 
a. is it gui -
and b. Would somebody have it in delhi - am willing to collect it from 
New Delhi etc.

thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] EXT3-fs error, unablet o read inode blocks

2005-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
EXT3 -fs error (device hdb6): ext3_gen_inode_loc: unable to read
inode 
block _ in inode 17992 :  block 360456
inode 180012  block 360457
 
 
 The only thing which can make the filesystem driver throw an error is
 if the physical media is absent.
I can login as root and can see that the various files are there.

and both HD's seem to be functioning partially.

Also while bootup it gets to saying unpacking kernel and so on.

There are two HD's - tried doing a df command and it fails

tried doing cfdisk - just to check what it says and again it gives an 
error message

says /proc is missing.


then tried checking if the /home was there - Yes its present
 
 Since this is a hard disk and I assume a non hot swapable one - your
 media has had a failure. Just get it replaced and use a different media
 to boot your OS before you try to retrieve anything from this one.
 

Was thinking of live booting knoppix  and recovering the data - on to 
cd's and then trying a reformat and re install

would it be a good option

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] EXT3-fs error, unablet o read inode blocks

2005-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Was thinking of live booting knoppix  and recovering the data - on to
 
 cd's and then trying a reformat and re install would it be a good
 option
 
 You would need space to save the data you can retrieve. Therefore
 either go for a new hard disk with minimal OS installed or you have a
 machine with sufficient disk space accessible using knoppix.

if the data is just a few cd's worth copying them using an external cd 
writer would be possible. Or are you saying that because of the problems 
in the hd it won't even let me write to the cd's

Alternatively I could use an external usb connectable hd and use knoppix 
to transfer rapidely ???

would any of these work

thanks
ram




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Re: [ilugd] EXT3-fs error, unablet o read inode blocks

2005-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
 
 
 You basically need to do two things :
 1. Boot from a reliable media - could be pxe, knoppix, zipslack
 anything as long as it is not from the corrupt hard disk.
 2. Ensure sufficient disk space is available to the OS once you have
 booted from something. This could be a CDR, DVDR, local hard disk, USB
 drive, NFS mount, FTP server, another linux box with SSH on it.
 
 The choice is yours to make depending on what you have easily available
 at your end.

Will try and let you know -

thanks
ram

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[ilugd] EXT3-fs error, unablet o read inode blocks

2005-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I am getting the following error on a PIII Desktop which has two HD X 20 
GB and 128 mb RAM. Running Ubuntu 5.04 (Ubuntu Hoary )

Starting Ubuntu...

EXT3 -fs error (device hdb6): ext3_gen_inode_loc: unable to read inode 
block _ in inode 17992 :block 360456
inode 180012block 360457

* cannot execute  /etc/init.d/rc
* entering run level 2
* cannot execute  /etc/init.d/rc

I did a google search with the key error parameters
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=ext3-fs+error+%3A+unable+to+read+inode+blocksourceid=mozilla-searchstart=0start=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefoxrls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial

but the results were way above.

I can login as root , and have seen that all the data files ( we 
require) are there.
Can someone say what is wrong and what needs to be done.

Will be grateful for the help.

ram

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[ilugd] What option for a 486 (win 95) machine

2005-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

What would be a good GNU/linux OS option for a standalone 486 machine, 
32 mb RAM , currently running win 95.

Uses would be data and word processing and connecting to the internet 
using a phone- modem connection. Users are novices with no experience in 
any OS but would like to as GUI as possible , atleast equivalent to win 95.

Languages - english and hindi would be really preferable.

Will be grateful for your suggestions

thanks
ram

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Re: [ilugd] *Hello* : keyboard problem with hindi

2005-10-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gora Mohanty wrote:
OS - Ubuntu
 
 
 Which version?
Hoary Ubuntu 5.04
 

Most likely, you are using
 the GNOME keyboard switching applet, which uses xkb
 internally. 

Yes, I have an applet on the panel and use that to switch

The problem is either due to a
 misconfigured keyboard as you surmise, or possibly
 an error in the Hindi keyboard map. 

I have (as suggested by Kenneth Gonsalves) tried pressing all the key 
and key combinations but all the characters are not there. The problem 
is compounded by the ctrl function keys resulting in characters rather 
than sofware control keys . Eg Ctrl A = select all results in

ctrl a = ो instead of select all
ctrl c = म instead of copy
ctrl v = न instead paste
ctrl z =  ॆ
ctrl y = ब

etc, etc

ू
If you give me
 the above information, I can try to fix the problem.
 
 Regards,
 Gora
 
 
   


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Re: [ilugd] hello

2005-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
quite a lot of shu sha about shusha

I have been typing in hindi for about 6 years - first CDAC leap and then 
ileap - using english keyboards mapped to inscript hindi key layouts. It 
took about a week to keymap them to the brain.

we could sent documents to people who had the same fonts on their system 
, or as pdf 's or send them the fonts as well,

But CDAC leap / ileap was a pain in many different ways

this leap / ileap had phonetic capabilities and they were quite sad to 
say the least.

Then, we began using Kruti Dev font that worked on M$office . OOowriter 
etc , using a hindi typewriter keyboard - this again took a week to  map 
to brain - the new keyboard layout *using* the same english keyboard

there was the option of stickers but it was far easier to have a print 
of the keyboard lying around to refer to as and when required.

Again everytime we sent documents electronically it was with the font 
and the keyboard layout.

Now we are using Ubuntu,   which has hindi and many other indian 
languages as default and we recently figured that the default hindi 
fonts use the inscript keyboard - so maybe again we will have to relearn 
the new keyboard
  but this time its hopefully going to be more stable, because everyone 
- will use the same underlying system - what keyboard (layout) they use 
isupto them - *as I have been educated  recently on this list*

but the beauty is now we can have the same hindi that appears at login , 
the same when we use an editor in hindi mode etc

and even more beautiful is
if you are unicode ready then बडा अच्छा

राम


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[ilugd] *Hello* : keyboard problem with hindi

2005-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Continuing with the discussion on indic languages on Linux.

I have a new problem

OS - Ubuntu
Computer Armada - E 500 Laptop

I was trying to  use hindi to type a letter in OOo
the problem is
a. that the shift keys don't work
b. the ctrl function keys through up hindi characters, instead of the 
function.

Till yesterday I was writing only simple words and short sentances - so 
the problem did not come up

The Keyboard chosen is a Generic 104 keys PC keyboard. Could this be the 
problem and should I choose anyother keyboard (from the list) or is the 
problem elsewhere

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] Hello

2005-10-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abhay wrote:
 
 To get rid of the pain caused by keymap, have a look at Shusha fonts.
 They are phonetic Fonts thus they will work with the common US keyboard 
 layout.

Thanks, will pass on this keyboard concept to the various phoneticians 
around,

I would like to stick to typing hindi directly.

thanks
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[ilugd] FWD: New FSF Award for Projects of Social Benefit

2005-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:00:09 +0530
  From: Anivar Aravind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: New FSF Award for Projects of Social Benefit
 
  The Free Software Foundation (FSF) announces the creation of a new
  annual award, and a call for nominations:
 
  Free Software Award for Projects of Social Benefit
 
  This award is presented to the project or team responsible for
  applying free software, or the ideas of the free software movement, in
  a project that intentionally and significantly benefits society in
  other aspects of life.
 
  We look to recognize projects or teams that encourage collaboration to
  accomplish social tasks. A long-term commitment to one's project (or
  the potential for a long-term commitment) is crucial to this end.
 
  This award stresses the use of free software in the service of
  humanity. We have deliberately chosen this broad criterion so that
  many different areas of activity can be considered. However, one area
  that is not included is that of free software itself. Projects with a
  primary goal of promoting or advancing free software are not eligible
  for this award (we honor those projects with our annual Award for the
  Advancement of Free Software
  http://www.fsf.org/news/fs-award-2005.html).
 
  We will consider any project or team that uses free software or its
  philosophy to address a goal important to society. To qualify, a
  project must use free software, produce free documentation, or use the
  idea of free software as defined in the Free Software Definition
  http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html. Work done
  commercially is eligible, but we will give this award to the project
  or team who best utilizes resources for society's greater benefit.
 
  Please send your nominations to [EMAIL PROTECTED], on or
  before Monday 30 November 2005. Please submit nominations in the
  following format:
 
  * Put the name of the project or team you are nominating in the
  email message subject line.
 
  * Please include, in the body of your message, an explanation (40
  lines or less) of the project, how it uses free software or free
  software ideas, and why you think it is especially important to
  society.
 
  * Please state, in the body of your message, where to find the
  materials (e.g., software, manuals, or writing) which your
  nomination is based on.
 
  We will announce the members of the 2005 award committee shortly. --
  John Sullivan Program Administrator | Phone: (617)542-5942 x23
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Re: [ilugd] Hello

2005-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
विवेक ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote:
 Ram, there is the this default gnome keyboard applet with devnagari
 support for it. and You can also use Bolnagri which is an input method
 too.
 links below
 cheers
 vivek

Hi
I got what everyone was saying - hindi was already installed on my 
system - in fact all the indian languages which came with ubuntu - hoary 
- so I have added the applet to the task bar and can switch between 
hindi and english as easy as a mouse key

कया आप यह पढ सकते हैं । मगर यह keymap बडा pain हैं ।

घन्यवाद
राम

ps - where is the half akshar key in this keymap - Bhasha - which seems 
to have been made by Microcost

ram

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[ilugd] long ILUG meet in the Himalaya changed title

2005-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux Lingam wrote:

 er winters in himalayas is not a low-season but a high-season. lots of
 folks wanna see and play with snow. most schools and colleges have a short
 winter break. the tourists season is buzzing at that time. you need to plan
 early, book early, and know your way around to get those exceptional
 discounts.
 
 but then maybe i'm wrong. maybe not.

In the context of the ILUG - D meet in the Himalaya - Novemeber is 
really not snow season - unless one goes high up. But it is still not 
low season - every   one seems to have holidays during those days. 
Reservations will need to be done *now*

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Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu

2005-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sudev Barar wrote:
 
 
 Ram,
 There are few printers from HP that run under Linux but need
 initialising when powered on. HP1005/1010 are two such printers. I
 do not remember the URL for this information but linuxprinting.org
 site gave me the work around and as long as the printer remains
 powered on it will keep working with whatever driver you load.
 You have to initialise the printer by giving a cat command and a
 download srcipt. I can look up thursday if you do not find any
 solution. Today being holiday at office. Alternatively google for this
 pon mailing list, I remember (vaguely) posting this solution a year or
 more back.
 
Hi,

Actually posting the solution would really help

We have searched the net and got the following links ad even followed 
them up. But we are probably missing something somewhere - and the we 
are all non techies - so there is a good chance of missing something 
obvious.

Yesterday we tried the following (with regards to the HP 1005).

followed the links at
http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php/Adding_an_HP_LaserJet_1000_to_Linux
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1005

I think I repeated what Vivek did earlier - to try and get some response 
- even a damn blinking LED from the printer but zilch

first I did this
  $ wget http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz
 $ tar zxf foo2zjs.tar.gz
 $ cd foo2zjs

Then I followed the following instructions

Now compile and install it. The INSTALL file contains more detailed 
instructions; please read it now.

Compile:
 $ make

(Optional) Get extra files from the web, such as .ICM profiles for color
correction, and firmware:
 $ ./getweb 1005# Get HP LJ1005 firmware file

Then I did this:

Install driver, foomatic XML files, and extra files:
 $ su
 # make install

After this I tried
gnome-cups-manager the print manager and tried to install and stuff but 
it continues to show both pbmtozjs and foo2zjs- but nothing seems to happen.

I even tried the following
sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
1.Find the the LogLevel option:
LogLevel info
and change the line to:
LogLevel none – changed to this on Oct 11th 2005
Save, exit, and type in the command
$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart

still nothing

*Are you suggesting that I do this*
cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1005.dl  /dev/usb/lp0

in cups script: /etc/init.d/cupsys

I can open the said cupsys file and edit it ad add the line , the 
question is where - the file (when opened in gedit ) has a lot of colors 
and operators or whateever they are called.

That am willing to try

Secondly, would't I need to do this once the printer is working ?? which 
at the moment it is not.


regards
ram
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 Sudev Barar
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[ilugd] Touch and no go HP 1005

2005-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay
So now I have conected a usb cable to the HP 1005 printer and ran the 
following command

cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1005.dl  /dev/usb/lp0

ad now it atleast acknowledges that it may work - it shows a paper out 
blinker and stuff but I still cannot print.

I guess the next step is to select the correct USb port - so how do I 
check that.

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Touch and no go HP 1005

2005-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I guess the next step is to select the correct USb port - so how do I 
 check that.
 
lsusb

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Re: [ilugd] Unable to setup HP 1005 printer on Ubuntu

2005-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saurabh Nanda wrote:
 
 
 Simply issue the command given above once you plug-in the printer, and
 hotplug detects/initializes that a USB printer has been plugged-in.
 After you uploaded the firmware the printer should make some whirring
 noises and some LEDs should blink. If that is happening you are on the
 right track - you simply need to get the software/application level
 drivers working.
 
 Nandz.
 --
Well it did make some noises and stuff, it also responds to showing 
paper out.

But.

This is the result of the usb devices connected - where it is shown -
:~ # lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID :
Bus 004 Device 001: ID :
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 03f0:1317 Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 1005
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

Should I try and add a new printer all over again, because by default it 
goes back to parallel port #1

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Hello

2005-10-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ankit Malik wrote:
 [Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju]
 

 I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially because I have
 forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know anyone who would like to take
 the initiative to help Bill Kendrick in this regard?

Can you give more details
How much text is it ?
What font(s) ?
What keyboard does the font require ??

If I get these details - may be able to help

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Hello

2005-10-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 3:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Ankit Malik wrote:

[Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju]


I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially
because I have forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know
anyone who would like to take the initiative to help Bill Kendrick
in this regard?

Can you give more details
How much text is it ?
What font(s) ?
What keyboard does the font require ??
 
 
 font? keyboard? why do you need to know these? the unicode strings 
 produced are independant of both font and keyboard



I run ubuntu and still don't know how to use unicode to type hindi - but 
using a ttf font , and a hindi typewriter keymap (board) i get my hindi 
work done -
so was asking from my perspective.

the various people who are working on indic fonts say that they can map 
the font to any keyboard - but if there is a default that Ankit is using 
it would have helped me figure whether I could help

ram

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Re: [ilugd] Hello

2005-10-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 4:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I run ubuntu and still don't know how to use unicode to type hindi -
but using a ttf font , and a hindi typewriter keymap (board) i get my
hindi work done -
 
 
 nobody uses unicode to type hindi. You type hindi using some keyboard 
 layout and some font. But what is stored is a unicode string which is 
 what  is needed. so your hindi typewriter keymap and ttf font are fine 
 for the purpose as long as you use something like babel to convert the 
 strings
 
okay babel babe here we go

but I would rather like to learn to use unicode fonts and stick to them

so will have to get the indic people to help me on that

ram

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[ilugd] Accessing a Wincedows 98 Machine

2005-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

This is actually a follow up to an earlier mail regarding the HP 1005 
that does not work (as yet) on ubuntu (linux).

AS it works with Wincddows 98 , we were wondering , if there was a way 
of accessing it over the lan net.

But, the problem: The network server is an Ubuntu box. And we have not 
been able to access the Wincedows 98 machine,

the server is setup as DHCP ??

So what do we need to do to be able to access this wincedows machine.

Funnily , while it is on the same network, through which our internet is 
also routed it can ping the various network ips and also access the 
internet, but no where does it show up on the Ubuntu network.

will be grateful for any advice

regards
ram

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Re: [ilugd] Accessing a Wincedows 98 Machine

2005-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gaurav Mishra wrote:
 What is Wincedows 98..?
 
ouch !!!
Windows 98 machine

ram

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Re: [ilugd] long BLUG meet outside Bangalore.

2005-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Mathur wrote:

 I'm game provided it's somewhere in the Himalayas :)

For those really keen on pursuing the himalayan dream or Corbett get 
away here is some relevant information:

Corbett National Park is presently closed and will )reopen after 15 Nov*.
The best place to stay , and enjoy is Dhikala - inside the NP. The other
two places are Bijrani and Sonandi - not as good

Ramnagar the entry point to Corbett NP and its surroundings is overnite
from Delhi - by Train -

Outside of the NP there are a whole range of places private and
Government,  to stay - from very very high end ones - to some basic ones
where the accommodation is in tents and huts.


relevant links -
both of which are private operators and
http://www.indianwildlifeportal.com/national-parks/corbett-national-park.html
http://www.corbettnationalpark.com


Another place deeper in the Himalaya - is Binsar Wild Life Sanctuary
4 hours drive from Kathgodam. Kathgodam is overnite by train from delhi.

There is again High end accommodation, as well as KMVN, - government run 
  decent accommodation. The views are fantastic and its inside a Leopard 
Sanctuary.

http://www.kmvn.org/

link to the binsar section - which has the tariffs
http://www.siplweb.com/kmvn/accomodation-tariff.asp?lid=2trhid=21

  The tariffs:
  Room Category  Room Type   No. of RoomsRoom Rent
  Family SuitSuper Delux-SD  2   1200 Rs.
  Double bed Standard -S 5   600 Rs.
  Double bed Delux -D11  800 Rs.
  Double bed Super Delux-SD  8   900 Rs.


where to reserve:

Central Reservation Centre
Manager,
Centrral Reservation Centre,
C/O Parvat Tours
Near Rickshaw Stand
Tallital, Nainital-263001
Phone : (05942) 236374, 235656, 231435, 231436
Fax No.: (05942) 236374
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*Delhi Office*

PRO, KMVN
103, Indra Prakash Building,
21, Barakhamba Road, New Delhi-110001
Ph : (011) 23712246, 51519366
Fax : (011) 23319835
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hope this information helps
ram

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Re: [ilugd] long BLUG meet outside Bangalore.

2005-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vivek khurana wrote:
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 snip
 
Hope this information helps
ram
 
 
  Wow, not to pull someones leg, but Ram looks like a
 good travel planner. So Ram you have volunteered to
 arrange for ilugd travel if an outstation trip
 happens.

Thought that something like that would happen but unlucky me  ;) - I am 
closer to Binsar then Delhi, and that ain't close at all.

  But I can help get whatever information is required and phone numbers 
and so on.

  Hope you are based in delhi or NCR region.

Nope , sorry
 You can coordinate with Sudev who has already
 volunteered to arrange such meet.

Whatever help is required in terms of contacts, directions and stuff I 
can try and get. But believe me most of it was of the internet :) , just 
knew where to look.
 
 regards
 VK
 
regards
ram
 Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have  a 
 solution in search of a problem.
 
 
 
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 The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The 
 distinction is yours to draw...
 
 
   
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[ilugd] X session - how to start programmes that are in the panel menus

2005-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

I am just getting to grips with using ssh and remote X sessions. (on 
Ubuntu Hoary)

I am able to access many of the programmes , as I would on a local 
machine. However, there are some programmes that I am unable to even 
find out how to start.

eg. There is a programme called Network Tools (Application  System 
Tools  Network Tools. Just cannot seem to be able to start it or even 
find it.

using the double tab command to figure out all programmes starting with 
*n or N* also does not show up the relevant programmes.

Any ideas on how to find the above mentioned programm and other such 
programmes that are located in the panel menus.


thanks

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Re: [ilugd] X session - how to start programmes that are in the panel menus - Solved

2005-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 
 On Sunday, 2 Oct 2005 14:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 eg. There is a programme called Network Tools (Application  System
 Tools  Network Tools. Just cannot seem to be able to start it or even
 find it.

 using the double tab command to figure out all programmes starting with
 *n or N* also does not show up the relevant programmes.



 Havent used gnome for a while. Doesnt right-clicking on the menu item 
 give you properties or some similar option where you can find the 
 name of the app?

 
 Tried that, the two options that appear are - add this launcher to 
 panel, and add entire menu to panel
 
 but will try and follow up if the name can be got from elsewhere
 
 ram
 
 
but I dragged the stuff to the panel and did right click and got the 
properties and name - its called gnome-nettool

thanks - it helps

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Re: [ilugd] X session - how to start programmes that are in the panel menus

2005-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Shekhar wrote:
 in infinite wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thus  On 10/02/2005
 03:01 PM:
 
 
Tried that, the two options that appear are - add this launcher to 
panel, and add entire menu to panel

but will try and follow up if the name can be got from elsewhere
 
 
 Click on Add the launcher to the menu.  When the icon appears on the
 menu, right click and select properties.  See the text that appears in
 the command textbox.
 
 
thanks - just figured that about the same time your mail came in

thanks once again
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Re: [ilugd] Mailing list stats

2005-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pankaj kaushal wrote:

thanks for the stats

 Sorted by messages posted:
  Total Total  Total
   Messages  Original  Lines:
 Posted:Lines:
 
  3:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   114  2172  5152  (58% noise)
 
 Sorted by original lines posted:
  Total Total  Total
   Messages  Original  Lines:
 Posted:Lines:
 
  3:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   114  2172  5152  (58% noise)
 
 Sorted by total lines posted:
  Total Total  Total
   Messages  Original  Lines:
 Posted:Lines:
 
  3:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   114  2172  5152  (58% noise)
 Top threads posted:
 
  Total Total  Total
   Messages  Original  Lines:
 Posted:Lines:
 

 From the look of things - it does seem like that I am one of the noisy 
posters. Consistently at 58 %

Few queries and observations
1. What is noise
2. Could it be because of HTML being turned on - because till recently 
the default setting on thunderbird was HTML on.

Also I noticed that in one of the threads after turning HTML off the 
noise level did come down

Lastly there seems to be some correlation between higher noise in 
threads that are by newbies ??

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Mailing list stats

2005-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Mathur wrote:
 
 Noise is how much you've quoted from earlier mails vs how much you
 have actually written yourself.  I'm low on noise since I take the
 fascist approach towards snipping off all that isn't absolutely
 relevant to the current post.  Hey, if I can't trim stuff off my tummy
 at least I can trim it off my posts :)

What I have always wanted to ask - how is it that you are able to get 
the senders name against each line in all your replies - - I am sure you 
don't do it manually - so how
 
 
 I don't know about that -- a mailing list will either (a) accept HTML,
 (b) remove it and leave plain-text or (c) ban it.  ILUGD follows (b)
 to the best of my knowledge.  After removal of HTML your post is
 identical (more or less) to what it would have been if you'd posted
 with HTML turned off.
 
 [10 points to anyone who can make sense of the previous sentence -- I
 can't!]

makes sense to me -
do I get the 10 points - :)
only don't ask how ILUGD turns HTML off

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Mailing list stats

2005-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Ram What I have always wanted to ask - how is it that you are
 Ram able to get the senders name against each line in all your
 Ram replies - - I am sure you don't do it manually - so how
 
 My mail client (Emacs/Xemacs) does that using a package called
 Supercite.
 
So is that available for say thunderbird as well
, its quite a neat utility

regards
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Re: [ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community

2005-09-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
 At 2005-09-26 15:46:09 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
The Community license provides a free version of Community Server that
can easily be upgraded to a commercial license.
 
 
 BTW, this seems like an entirely coincidental use of community. It's
 not even clear to me if this communityserver.org thing is a real free
 software license (but I didn't look terribly hard).
 
 -- ams
 

Yes , that was why I posted it , it is quite apparent that the community 
they mean is nothing to do with this community. but as it appeared in a 
google search for licenses I just thought of putting it down

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Re: [ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community

2005-09-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
 At 2005-09-26 15:46:09 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
ams wrote:


Now I'm confused.
 
 
 I'm still confused. I'm afraid I'm finding your argument a bit difficult
 to follow, and I'm not even quite sure whether you're being sarcastic or
 not. Nevertheless:
 
 
with rights there are responsibilities or duties.
 
 
 We're talking about rights assigned under copyright law in a license. If
 those rights come with responsibilities or duties, then the license MUST
 say so explicitly. If it does not, then those duties or responsibilities
 have no more legal standing than figments of someone's imagination.
 
 You can't assign rights in a license, expect people to accept them, then
 suddenly unveil new requirements after the fact. That makes a mockery of
 contract and copyright law.
 
 And you're missing the point in this earlier message:
 
 
Because it would be nice to think we are not talking only licenses and
legalities.
 
 
 We are talking about freedom.
 
 A free software license is a tool that seeks to protect freedom while
 promoting widespread sharing. Its strength lies in its foundation in
 copyright law. Without that foundation, there would be nothing that
 could protect your freedom.
 
 In short: there is nothing only about licenses and the law. They are
 *fundamental* to the idea of Free software, and they (and the details
 thereof) cannot be ignored or handwaved away.
 
 
*copyleft (very simply stated) is the rule that when redistributing
the program, you cannot add restrictions to deny other people the
central freedoms.* http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
 
 
 Fine.
 
 
By not participating in creating that enabling environment is actually
turning a blind eye to the issue of access to choice , access to free
software and in this context freedom.
 
 
 Yes.
 
 And by turning a blind eye to those issues, they do not affect *your*
 freedom in any way. Therefore they are not violating the terms of the
 license that gives them the freedom to use copylefted software.
 
Actually they do - turning a blind eye and doing nothing does affect 
others. I will not explain - but its called complicity of silence (or 
something like that). But a crude example - if I come across an 
excellant piece of software - say Firefox and love using it but do not 
pass it around and do not make the effort to pass it around , then I am 
turning a blind eye and not enabling others to make the same choice, nor 
am I strenghtening the Free Software initiative, Infact my silence is 
allowing IE or MS$ a bit of a better chance - even if its just one more 
person. Even One person.

 If they believe in the idea behind Free software, then they might want
 to participate to a greater degree. But that is entirely their choice,
 and if they believe or choose otherwise, *you* are not affected.

Again, people are affected , for the same reason, when a group keeps 
silent about anything, when they are not proactive it does affect some 
one , some where. That they do no participate and cannot be held 
responsible for not participating is another issue and of course they 
are not legally liable.
 
 Of course, if you can convince them that it is a good idea for them to
 participate more, and do more to promote freedom, that would be a good
 thing. But that isn't a question of obligations. The community's role
 is partly to create an environment, as you say, that helps people to
 understand and appreciate the issues; but that isn't the function of
 the license per se. The two complement each other.

The enabling environment takes effort and that effort is often 
difficult. Individuals in the community have to overcome that negative 
feedback and still plug away. There is no short cut
 
 (The license can't beat users over the head with the community, and the
 community can't beat users over the head with the license. :)
 

Maybe we can ask for some license fencing competition :) at the next 
community meeting.


 The GPL does ensure that nobody can legally take away anyone's freedom
 to use, modify, or redistribute GPLed software.

It does and that is a big freedom


 -- ams
 
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Re: [ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera

2005-09-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:08:43 +0530
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 I know you must be speaking from experience ;).
Yes a friend blew up his Ninon d70 because he connected his camera to a 
faulty USB port and boom Rs 15 kn went up in smoke.

 I too do the same, but one Q I have wrt to the camera cable
 usually the cables coming with the camera have a cylindrical blob at
 the camera end, how much does it affect usage?  what is it for?

Not sure excatly - the nikons and the Lumix have one end as a USb 
connector and the other is almost like a laptop power connector( the 
section that goes into the laptop - ) only tinier. In the the two 
cameras' I have used these are only for data transfer -the cables to 
charge the camera battery is different (again not recommended ).
 
  My canon A70 used to work with such a cable, but not with a straight
 cable (which doesnt have the blob). this cable only works for cameras
 showing up as USB storage.

Again no idea - does the same cable do the battey charging ??
 
 karunakar
 
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Re: [ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera

2005-09-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 Sep 2005 1:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My canon A70 used to work with such a cable, but not with a
straight cable (which doesnt have the blob). this cable only works
for cameras showing up as USB storage.

Again no idea - does the same cable do the battey charging ??
 
 
 he has been asking about his blob for the last six months - i hope 
 someone puts him out of his agony soon :-)
 
maybe you Kuranakar should post (make available ) a digital image of his 
blob - it might help.

ram

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[ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community

2005-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

This is regarding the digressed thread of Where is the Community and 
the many different elements of disucssion.

Here are some replies
Ram wrote :
 Call is social responsibility, call it a *request from the community*
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 Sounds more like dictating a social *duty*.

with rights there are responsibilities or duties.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 So what is this antagonism towards people making money or people with 
 wealth
 who are using this software? Why do we care? As long as the community 
 keeps
 getting better and better over time, we have accomplished what we 
have to.

 When you use words like responsibility or giving back, you *are* 
 talking
 about strings attached to using Free software. If there are such 
 strings, put
 them in the damn licence, otherwise nobody has the right to interpret 
 the
 licence or its spirit, whether they are Free or closed source 
 software


Thanks , I will remember that the various open source / free software 
licenses (GPL ASF etc) does not say anything about *any community* hence 
there are no expectations from the community or its members hence no 
*duties*.  And won't interpret more than what the license of any free / 
libre software gives / allows.

And When I do have the opportunity to release software under a Free 
Software License will remember to incorporate some aspects of community.

 So what is this antagonism towards people making money or people 
with wealth
 who are using this software? Why do we care? As long as the 
community keeps
 getting better and better over time, we have accomplished what we 
 have to.

Raj Mathur Wrote
 I agree with Sandip: making money from FOSS is perfectly legitimate
 (dammit, I do it myself!), and you cannot ask the user of a software
 for anything beyond what the software license enjoins him/her to do.

No antagonism at all. This is what I said
where the community is the large amorphous mass (whose collective 
resources base is large but individual resource base disparately 
distributed) and the corporate are the proprietory privateers (who have 
even larger private and unshared resources) whose sole motive is profit, 
wherever it may come from and *whatever the cost*.

The key words are whatever the cost and that cost to me is freedom to 
choose my software and freedom to enable other to choose theirs.

ams wrote:
 Now I'm confused.

 At 2005-09-24 12:39:26 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is that cliched statement of freedom - ones freedom ends when
  it begins to affect anothers [...]
  they are not (rather should not be) free to choose to *not contribute*

 Why not? And what are you saying they should contribute, exactly?
 And how do their decisions in this regard affect your own freedom?

-- ams

Contribute to enabling others to make the same free choices. It takes a 
kind of supportive enviroment to enable people to make a choice - so the 
beneficiaries of the free software movement community have a 
responsibility to make that opportunity available to others. Thats the 
contribution I am trying to highlight which appears in this copyleft 
statement.

*copyleft (very simply stated) is the rule that when redistributing the 
program, you cannot add restrictions to deny other people the central 
freedoms.* http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

By not participating in creating that enabling environment is actually 
turning a blind eye to the issue of access to choice , access to free 
software and in this context freedom.

I am not sure if freedom comes with out duty or responsibility. I 
question what kind of freedom it is that does not at the very least ask 
of its beneficiaries to make sure others get what they have got, that is
freedom to ensure everyone has the same playing field . the same free 
state.

As a consequence of this discussion I read some of the popular Free 
Software licenses none of them have anything to say about communities 
and contribunting back to the community. The closest to community 
license was this:


Licensing Community Server
There are 3 options for licensing Community Server:

 *
   Community license
   The Community license provides a free version of Community Server 
that can easily be upgraded to a commercial license. The Community 
license is perfect for non-profit or non-commercial applications. The 
Community license can be used in commercial applications as long as the 
license agreement is adhered to.


The following are  drawn from GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
   Version 2, June 1991

To protect your rights, we need to make restrictions that forbid
anyone to deny you these rights or to ask you to surrender the rights.
These restrictions translate to *certain responsibilities* for you if 
you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it.


The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions
of the General Public License from time to time.  Such new versions will
be similar *in spirit

Re: [ilugd] Slow FC4

2005-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Yes even i do too face the same problem.
During installation also i was facing problem , i googled and i found that
i need to enter a word before pressing enter.
It is not even detecting mine in built lan card. 
Also i found the performance not acceptable in terms of speed of
applications.
I have AMD 64 bit processor with 512 MB RAM.
--
Regards
Abhishek jain

Original Message:
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From: vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:50:40 -0700
To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Subject: [ilugd] Slow FC4


I've been messing with FC4 for a few days now...and it seems a little
sluggish to me...compared to FC3or am I just imagining it?
Overall the installation was also very odd.it refused to boot after i
completed installation
Simply gave a blank screen after loading modulesI did a hard reboot and
then it worked perfectly till the next reboot...and then again a few
reboots later.same story..
It detected the display as VESA...so i let that be ...because i figured that
it was the safest setting.
the hardware (IBM T20) ran flawlessly with FC3.
Anyone else have a similar experience?

Best regards,
Vikram Ranade
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