[ilugd] Google Summer of Code 2013 - projects on language technologies

2013-04-11 Thread sankarshan
For GSoC 2013, ankur.org.in and, SMC are selected as mentoring
organizations. Both of these organizations list projects related to
enhancements in language technologies.

More detail is available from
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/ankur_india
and, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/smc

I'd request that you help us forward the links to interested students
and, mentors.

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Re: [ilugd] MediaGoblin - Our own Media Publishing Software

2013-04-01 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM, FRDManiac Parin frdman...@f-m.fm wrote:
 MediaGoblin[1] is a free software media publishing platform that anyone
 can run. You can think of it as a decentralized alternative to Flickr,
 YouTube, SoundCloud, etc. It's also:

http://docs.mediagoblin.org/ states GNU MediaGoblin is a platform
for sharing photos, video and other media in an environment that
respects our freedom and independence.

Both this statement and, the segment in your original email fail to
simply describe what it does. Free software media publishing
platform/ decentralized alternative may be obvious to technically
aware users or, hackers. It isn't so obvious at a mass scale (and,
neither is it easily localized). I'd request that when creating a
tagline, it be kept simple.


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Re: [ilugd] Need help in Research Work

2013-02-25 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Arindam Roy arindamroy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am working  in a research work at IIT Delhi regarding *Failures/Security
 Aspects of Management Information System*. In this i had to find out all
 the failures and security problems which are being faced in implementing /
  running the  MIS systems . Further i had to develop  Decision tool for
 selecting MIS system in the organisation. I had gone through journals and
 articles regarding that but one point always stucks my mind  that like as
 we all know SAP-ERP s/w are uesd to make such robust MIS systems but they
 are costly to impliment and even requires further expertisation. If such
  MIS system are made by Open source technologies then it can reduce the
 financial part and can provide more flexibility. Anyone  who has idea of
 MIS based on open source or any suggestion /  references for such pls
  provide.

Since you mention SAP ERP, have you had the chance to look at OpenERP
and Compiere ?


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Re: [ilugd] [fosscomm] Migration to GNU/Linux: Suggestions needed

2013-01-10 Thread sankarshan
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Mohit Singh gmohitsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have really started a mission to FOSSify complete B.Tech. CS labs
 from first to fourth year. We want a full-fledged running GNU/Linux
 system on each computer. We want to utilize a distro which may run
 even on modest hardware with full support for software development
 projects of B.Tech.

 So I am really talking about replacing Oracle with MySQL and Visual
 Studio with * (something still under search - C,Java,JDBC with
 MySQL,JSP will be used mostly).

The devil is always in the details. You'd want to look at the current
usage of the software stack and assess whether migrating to anything
would require extensive re-learning. The idea is not merely to
migrate, but, to do it in a manner that your end users do not have to
flounder around due to lack of hand-holding or, documentation.

I've often noticed posts on the LUG-Chennai list about FOSSLabs being
set up. Perhaps you can look at the archives and check how to go
about. An article was also published at
http://www.linuxforu.com/2011/09/baskar-selvaraj-interview-foss-power-in-170-tamil-college-labs/


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Re: [ilugd] Laptop for Fedora any recommendations?

2012-02-07 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, abhishek jain
abhishek.netj...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am Planning to purchase one Laptop with Fedora on with intel Core i3 + 2
 GB RAM, any recommendations on model?
 Should i prefer Dell  or HP? or else.

Although by no means a complete representation, you can take a look at
http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html to figure out
what works and what doesn't etc


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Re: [ilugd] [CrossPosted] Re: LibreOffice In Indian Languages

2012-02-06 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:

 For your amusement, you might find some 'founders' here:
 http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/board/

That's the Board of Directors I'm guessing. I'd hesitate to call the
first set of BoD as Founders.

 In that case I need to know more about it. Can you connect me to someone?

The BoD should provide you with a way to connect to Charles Schulz and
Florian Effenberger. Between them they covered NLC and Marketing at
OO.o and, now at LibO.o


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[ilugd] [CrossPosted] Re: LibreOffice In Indian Languages

2012-02-05 Thread sankarshan
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am meeting with the Founder of LibreOffice at FOSDEM and he was interested
 in knowing what kind of localization work is going on for LibreOffice. I
 think there are some active communities. I would like to connect them with
 LibreOffice can you point me to someone?

If the 'Founder' of LibreOffice (and, I am amused to note that there
is a Founder given that OpenOffice.org was always a committee) isn't
already talking with the L10n dev group then I'd be mighty unhappy
with the way things are. The L10n contributions to OO.o swung over to
LO.o the moment the repositories and workflows were set up.

ps: If you are cross posting for wider audience, stating it in the
subject line itself is a good thing to do.
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Re: [ilugd] Getting started with Linux Kernel Development

2011-12-11 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:41 AM, TANUJ free2talk@gmail.com wrote:

 It's been a while since I am using linux now. I wish to start developing
 kernel modules. Could you please suggest some good resources for it?
 I have the knowledge of architecture of operating systems, it's just I want
 to explore the kernel further. Also, are there any such courses offered by
 any training companies (in Delhi)?

Sometime back I came across the Hello World ! version of writing
Kernel Modules -
http://psankar.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-to-write-kernel-module.html
That and http://lxr.linux.no/linux should allow you to begin
studying and writing a few modules.




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Re: [ilugd] [OT]: FLOSS Start-Ups In India?

2011-11-20 Thread sankarshan
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are planning a series of stories and interviews of open source start-ups
 from India (Linus' interview triggered the need). So, if you know any such
 start-up please let me know.

What is an open source start-up ?

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Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books

2010-11-17 Thread sankarshan
2010/11/18 Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org:
 can I read html, text, PDF files of my own?

The Kindle or, any other ebook reader for that matter supports a set
of file formats. Is your question specific to whether you can transfer
self-published content to the device and read ? If that is the
question then yes, if you are converting it to the format supported by
the device.


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Re: [ilugd] Fedora Repo in RHEL

2010-04-19 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:41 PM, subodh subodh.rohi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I use fedora repository to install software in RHEL ?? If yes then how

You are probably looking for http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL


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Re: [ilugd] How to install Ubuntu 9.10 form Network

2010-04-09 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:43 PM, narendra sisodiya
narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Imagine the condition for lab for 100 computers
 *Case 1 *- Hardware conf of all 100 comp is same
  -- what is the best way to install Ubuntu 9.10 in whole lab

https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ is what you could look at

 *Case 2 *- Hardware conf of all 100 comp is different from each other
  -- what is the best way to install Ubuntu 9.10 in whole lab

If the configuration are different in every possible way between each
machine (that is a lot of combinations), you could try and look at
installing a bare minimum installation via a recipe/manifest and then
build on that using package installation methods.



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Re: [ilugd] Open Source tool for Knowledge management

2009-10-20 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM, gopal krishna
mgopal_kris...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I would like to have a very basic Functionalities like to place Documents/  
 papers  with a Key word search facility which can be updated my all users.

For example, if you look at http://www.openkm.com/Features.html it
provides an overview of features you could choose to have.


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Re: [ilugd] Open Source tool for Knowledge management

2009-10-19 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, gopal krishna
mgopal_kris...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Can anyone please suggest me any good open source Internal Knowledge 
 management tool as I need to implement the same.

It would be good to have a list of features that your implementation
considers _must_have_ and, other features that are good to have.
Knowledge Management systems include a wide swathe of software and
tools. If you'd like to hone in on the appropriate one, it is best to
start with the features you are looking for.


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[ilugd] Fwd: [OLPC India] Volunteers needed for deploying OLPCs in Delhi

2009-09-04 Thread sankarshan
Please contact Saurabh directly.

/sankarshan


-- Forwarded message --
From: Saurabh Adhikari adhika...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Subject: [OLPC India] Volunteers needed for deploying OLPCs in Delhi
To: olpc in...@lists.laptop.org


We need a number of volunteers asap to help roll out the deployment of
OLPCs in New Delhi.

From those who can help plan, to hands on techies, to coordinators and
managers and those with great communication skills.

It will be a great help if all of us spread the word and look for
folks who would really like to participate.

Thank you.

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Re: [ilugd] Kickstart Problem

2009-08-08 Thread sankarshan
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Kamal Kishorekamal...@gmail.com wrote:

          I am not able to install through kickstart with PXE. Please help
 and tell what is the procedure in RHEL5?

It is a bit difficult to figure out what you are doing and, what is
not working, with the data you have provided, perhaps you'd like to
read through 
http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Installation_Guide/ch-kickstart2.html

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[ilugd] Forwarded from : [fosscomm] URGENT: Need to lobby with NASSCOM, MAIT and MCIT

2009-07-06 Thread sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)

http://lists.fosscom.in/pipermail/network-fosscom.in/2009-July/000346.html

I don't recall reading blogs post the fosscomm meet, forwarding the URL 
to the appropriate mail to the list.


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[ilugd] [Commercial] Quality Assurance Engineer openings at Red Hat, Pune

2009-06-02 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
The following Quality Assurance Engineer roles are in the process of 
being hired at Red Hat (Pune). Interested candidates may send in their 
resumes to careers-in at redhat dot com. Please mention in the subject 
line of the mail the role.


*JBoss Operations Network Quality Assurance Engineer*

JON Essential Duties and Responsibilities: As a Quality Assurance 
Engineer for JBoss Operations Network, you will be responsible for 
expanding our existing test automation framework, as well as evaluating 
and implementing new Open Source tools to verify the quality of the 
product. The job will have you working with an international team of 
Software Developers and fellow QA Engineers. Primary focus is on WebUI 
automation and agent testing. Will be responsible for writing test plans 
and test cases for assigned functional areas. Will then be responsible 
for running manual tests, writing automated tests, and running automated 
tests. Also responsible for writing, verifying, and closing bugs on each 
version of the product.


JON Job Requirements:

* Knowledge of how to use a defect tracking system (JIRA or 
Bugzilla preferred).
* Knowledge of how to use a revision control system (Subversion 
preferred).

* Ability to read and write Java code.
* Previous experience with automated testing tools.
* Expertise in Selenium a major plus.
* Demonstrated skills in Middleware and/or application servers.
* Basic knowledge of database usage and ability to write SQL.

*Satellite and Proxy Quality Assurance Engineer*

Satellite/Proxy Essential Duties and Responsibilities: As a Quality 
Assurance Engineer for the Red Hat Network Satellite and Proxy products, 
you will be responsible for expanding our existing test automation 
frameworks, as well as evaluating and implementing new Open Source tools 
to verify the quality of the product. The job will have you working with 
an international team of Software Developers and fellow QA Engineers. 
Primary focus is on API, WebUI, and client tool testing. Will be 
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Satellite/Proxy Job Requirements:

* Knowledge of how to use a defect tracking system (Bugzilla 
preferred).
* Knowledge of how to use a revision control system (Git, 
Subversion,or CVS preferred).

* Good skills in at least two of: Java, Python, Perl, BASH, or Ruby.
* Previous experience with automated testing tools.
* Expertise in Selenium and/or JUnit a major plus.
* Excellent skills in reading and writing technical documentation 
in English.

* Demonstrated skills in Linux systems administration.
* Basic knowledge of database usage and ability to write SQL.
* Basic previous experience in Solaris administration a plus.

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Re: [ilugd] Remove Membership from ilugd Group.....

2009-05-11 Thread sankarshan
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Asif Zaheer sa_naz...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Pls remove my member ship from the group ilugd
 User: Syed Asif Zaheer
 Email : sa_naz...@yahoo.com.

 Pls do the need full asap.

Self-service appreciated via: http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd

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Re: [ilugd] Request for ILUG-D Elections FAQ please

2009-05-06 Thread sankarshan
2009/5/6 Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) dines...@gmail.com:

 The LUGs should now move to provide umbrella for more specialist
 interest groups like Python, PHP, C/C++, RoR, Databases, Cloud
 Computing, Security, Application specific software stacks, Policy and
 evangelize related topics and such.

Why would the specialist groups be interested in a LUG umbrella ? I am
not playing the devil's advocate here (more so because that cameo is
generally used to spew unbridled sarcasm), but am specifically
interested in a discussion. While the thought did cross my mind, I
haven't had a comprehensive idea about what would make such an
embedded presence work.


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Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments

2009-05-06 Thread sankarshan
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote:

 BTW, OpenOffice reads PDF?  I didn't know that!

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport


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Re: [ilugd] oracle buys sun

2009-04-23 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote:

 on the other hand, i hope oracle gets inspired by its collection of
 software to start considering
 converting its model away from software licenses to services, thereby
 making oracle software foss.

You do realize that ORCL has had significant contributions to the
'plumbing bits of Linux'. http://oss.oracle.com/ and, just because
it is a Friday -
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/webcomics/unbreakable-prophecy.svg from,
http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/fedora-weekly-webcomic-unbreakable.html




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Re: [ilugd] PDF Urdu font problem

2009-04-12 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote:
 On Friday 10 Apr 2009, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org
 wrote:
  The characters are all here, because if you select and copy the PDF
  text (e.g. in Kpdf) and paste it into an editor it displays the
  complete Urdu text beautifully.

 If you use the same font to write something in a standard editor/word
 processor and output it to PDF, does it render b0rked or as_expected?

 Interesting diagnostic!  Yes, if I paste the text from the PDF into OOo
 writer, convert all to Nafees font and generate a fresh PDF it looks
 just fine.

Umm.. I was looking at whether - if you use a new OOo writer document
and, with the same font selected input randomly using appropriate
layout whether it gets rendered.

 Maybe I should get Joomla to just use OOo to generate PDFs from pages
 (j/k :)

Well, on the face of it, turns out that Joomla seems to be pushing out
a PDF that does not seem to render alright. Might be worth poking at
the internals to see how Joomla does generate the PDF. And, the
original post would be a good puzzle on indlinux list :)

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Re: [ilugd] PDF Urdu font problem

2009-04-09 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote:

 The characters are all here, because if you select and copy the PDF text
 (e.g. in Kpdf) and paste it into an editor it displays the complete
 Urdu text beautifully.

If you use the same font to write something in a standard editor/word
processor and output it to PDF, does it render b0rked or as_expected ?


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Re: [ilugd] Blog post about Freed.in Day 1

2009-03-05 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, shirish shirisha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also from what little I understand, these matters are still evolving.
 As Mr. Duggal of Supreme Court says it

 The same case presented the same way to 5 different judges may lead
 to 5 different decisions

 I have my own take in the manner.

I don't know if you have written that 'take' down somewhere, but it
would be interesting to know more about that. The rationale is that
there must be a reason why you feel comfortable CC licensing your
mails to the mailing lists and, if that reason is put down somewhere
it would perhaps lead to a discussion rather than the shotgun-scatter
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Re: [ilugd] Blog post about Freed.in Day 1

2009-02-25 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, shirish shirisha...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/freedin-day-1/

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundation is for historical purposes
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Re: [ilugd] Blog post about Freed.in Day 1

2009-02-25 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Kishore Bhargava

 I didn't actually point to any URL at all, I just clearly mentioned the
 Fedora Project as a supporter of the community and specifically a
 supporter of freed.in/2009.

Wonderful. You made our day :)


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Re: [ilugd] [X-Post] LGPL License Option Added to Qt

2009-01-14 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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 QtSoftware has decided to add LGPL license to Qt. Following has more details.

and thereby all the fun goes out of the mailing lists


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Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes

2008-12-09 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Raj Mathur wrote:

 That's not fair on a number of users actually.  You will find a large 
 number of people only file bugs when there's a compelling reason for 
 them to continue using a (sub-)system and the bug-fix is something they  
 can't live without, or if they're committed to the bug-fix process.  

Yes, I'd agree with you there. It has been a significantly less number
of users who actually file bugs. And, there are reasons above the ones
you pointed out. Things like {back|stack}traces or crash data (most of
the times without appropriate debug symbols though) are easily tooled to
be sent across to the defect trackers without asking the user for too
much details. A somewhat similar thing is observed with
sysreport/son_of_sysreport. In this case, having a checksysreport setup
does allow you to analyze the data as well. Or, for example the
kerneloops package that allows you to just send the data back for some
analysis.

These days a larger number of user-space applications are letting users
have the option to send across the crash/stall feedback without doing
too much. Pulseaudio is one example.

In a case like the one Swapnil pointed out, it would have been a good
idea to let NetworkManager developers understand the use case and
perhaps put in place a roadmap for such tooling to be included.

Without user feedback of defects, software improvements is going to be
very difficult. The catch is that such feedback loops aren't easy.

 In an ideal world I agree we must all file bug reports as rigorously as 
 possible.  However, in real life other considerations tend to take 
 precedence and the report just becomes a ``Will do when I have some 
 time'' item somewhere low down in the list.

*sigh* that's sadly true. And, I'd be more than happy if some student
decides to take on a project that will develop or enhance tooling to
report user_space bugs to appropriate defect trackers.

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Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes

2008-12-08 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 I installed Fedora 10, but when I enter 255.255.255.0 in the subnet mask, it
 automatically changes to the default gateway address, I am using static IP
 setting and am not using the new network manager.

Why aren't you ?




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Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes

2008-12-08 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 Gateway IP is not being masked by subnet mask, it remains the one I entered.
 But the subnet gets replaced by the default gateway IP. I almost reached to
 the point of start using F10 insted of Ubuntu, but thanks to the Fedora
 Team, I am back to Ubuntu for their bugs.

Thanks to you we also know that LFY folks don't subscribe to the idea of
filing bug reports. Lead on.


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Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes

2008-12-08 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Atanu Datta wrote:

 Sankarshan, the problem with Bugzilla is that it's been designed with a 
 developer or a general geek in mind. Even Cory Doctorow, featured on RHM 
 [http://www.redhat.com/magazine/020jun06/features/video_doctorow/], in an LJ 
 interview published in November issue says Bugzilla is too difficult for a 
 general user to use. Can't things be made easier? GNU/Linux used by everyday 
 users also nowadays.

Is that a feedback after the recent refresh of the bugzilla.redhat.com ?
I'd have thought that https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi was
simplified to a large extent enabling easy filing of bugs.

Bugzilla is an upstream project and RFEs go at (guess what ? :))

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:UE

 Like Amarok has a nice system, and maybe other projects can try to replicate 
 the model. Whenever Amarok crashes, it brings up KMail with the dump and the 
 address and the subject line filled in the compose window. All I need to do 
 is 
 click send. 

GNOME has a similar BugBuddy. Sending of crashes by mail is a somewhat
different UseCase than what Swapnil just put out.

 Problems I encountered with Fedora 10 KDE4 Live CD: X wouldn't start. Knew 
 that the problem was it was using the nv drivers which has problems with my 
 stupid display card anyway, so I needed to set it to vesa.  

Again, you do realize that if you don't want to file a bug there are a
bunch of fedora-* lists that you can post this too ?

 Who knows? Or should I file a bug report on non availability of system-config-
 display?

If you did file a bug, someone from the bug triaging team would have
taken some time to re-assign components if it were not properly filed.
We could do with some bug triage love (and that's probably true for a
lot of projects), but bugs do get triaged and assigned.

 So, just because someone hasn't filled a bug doesn't mean, he is too lazy to 
 do it. It's often that he gets too confused while filing it. I know how 
 Swapnil utilises his time at least -- goes and installs GNU/Linux on people's 
 computer, who are otherwise not even familiar with the term operating 
 system. Configures the system as per the person's requirements. Teaches him 
 how to use the system. And tells him how to keep his system updated. Just 
 because he doesn't know how to file a bug report doesn't make him a bad 
 community member, does it?

You know what ? Swapnil isn't your typical Linux desktop user (and by
that yardstick neither are you). So, in spite of the fine tasks that he
does by installing Linux desktops for folks, he does belong to the group
that is involved with LFY. So, if someone from a magazine that pushes
out a reasonable mix of technical and non-technical Linux content
doesn't demonstrate the right way to do things on a mailing list - I
call that a FAIL. Not a massive FAIL, but a FAIL.

If he doesn't know how to file a bug or, does not want to that really
isn't a big deal. I tend to meet a lot of folks who don't want to.

It is just that. I wasn't really keen to question his competence or what
he does with his time. Just that given the amount of time he has been
posting/writing I tend to take it for granted that
http://producingoss.com/en/bug-tracker.html isn't new for him.



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Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes

2008-12-08 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 With all due respect, Sankarshan, now where does LFY come into picture? Did
 I post the issue as LFY member? I don't know who you work for and it doesn't
 matter to me at all.

Nope the mistake is mine and I did just point it out in a response to
Atanu separately.

 And since I use Ubuntu I am registered member or Launchpad and have filed a
 few bug reports there -- but I am _not_ a techie. Also, I post here as
 Swapnil, who is a writer and a passionate GNU/Linux _user_.  I will not
 appreciate anything pointing at my connections with LFY. Period.

You do write technical content and knowing how software development in a
FOSS scenario works is kind of expected. A writer and a passionate
GNU/Linux user would be aware of how to ensure that his/her problems are
logged into appropriate defect tracking systems *and* end up helping
others - wouldn't you agree that it is the basis on which FOSS develops ?

It is good to know that you do file bugs on LP. But, filing bugs does
not require one a techie (whatever that may mean). So, if you are
interested in strawman arguments feel free. I would not agree to the
concept pushed across by Atanu and you that bug filing systems are not
meant for users. They could do with enhancements and simplifications,
but for that too you need to file requests. Not just throw up hands and
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[ilugd] [Commercial - somewhat] Re: M$ Excel to Open Office Calc Migration

2008-11-25 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
narendra sisodiya wrote:

 * do we have expert or consultancy which can help/service in migration
 process. ?

Rajesh (cc: ed) does that professionally.




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Re: [ilugd] List of Corporates using Linux Desktops?

2008-11-24 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Chirag Anand wrote:
 I agree with everyone here...regarding FOSS companies. The reason that I
 raised this point is the recession that we are facing today. Nobody is sure
 of their placements in any company. The only ray of light that we see today
 is open source projects and FOSS companies.

I believe you have got it wrong there. Open Source Projects or, FOSS
companies are not folks who look appealing during a downturn. The moot
point is that if you spend your time becoming a better
programmer/developer, your skills are invaluable to any company. Free
and Open Source Software (projects) provide you a much nicer way to
become such a programmer. These kind of projects teach you most of the
stuff that the rigor of academics might not be coaching you in - working
with virtual teams, getting your code through peer review, building
skills in communication, handling of version control systems etc.

The curricula you read is aimed at teaching you the fundamental building
blocks - what you build using them is completely up to you.

However, FOSS companies have their stakeholders and they work in an
environment that is somewhat different from the culture of non FOSS
companies. Most of the time, hiring in FOSS companies are thus more
quirky than in traditional ones.

 The current thinking of students is that if we are spending time on open
 source projects or even promoting Linux, should give us some fruits in the
 future. Otherwise, its considered a time waste.

Then I'd say that the students are not very smart. Please read the above
paragraph. You need to spend time to become better programmers. There
isn't any other easy way to get a fulfilling job.

 So, my question is: 1. Should students start contributing to open source in
 a hope to get a job?

They should start contributing and keep on contributing because practice
makes you a better performer.



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Re: [ilugd] List of Corporates using Linux Desktops?

2008-11-21 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Chirag Anand wrote:

 Can you tell me, that so many FOSS companies are here on this mailing list
 but why you do not come to campuses?? Or why you do not take freshers (i may
 be wrong here), but i have seen job openings in LFY...not a single opening
 for freshers. Please tell me, where do we go (FOSS students) for gaining
 some experience? Ultimately, even if we go to companies like tcs, infy etc.
 we wont be getting any FOSS exposure there. 

A reason could be that FOSS companies don't recruit in the volumes that
other companies of the SWITCH group do. I know for sure that my company
doesn't recruit in that numbers. So, sometimes campus recruitment time
isn't the best times to get talking with the Placement Cell.

A company (and especially a FOSS company) has to have somewhat different
parameters when selecting and interviewing candidates. Some of these
include looking at an existing portfolio of code (hint: they want to see
code that is available via some repository checkout, not some project
that is sitting their on your HDD). So, while you are a student start
contributing to project(s). Learn how to produce open source software
(take a read through producingoss.com)

I work at a small company that does FOSS and we do recruit freshers who
demonstrate ability and accomplishments (not necessarily measured in
years of service)

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Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got a mail from Dell, regarding the same and it says:
 
 According to the email received, I understand that you are trying to  
 install Linux operating system on the machine, and you want to know if your  
 warranty will be effected or not. The warranty is for the hardware and not  
 for the software.The hardware warranty would not be effected.

I hope you did check with Dell as to whether it was alright passing the
above on to a wider audience. Thanks for sharing the information though





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Re: [ilugd] Compiling Online With GCC

2008-11-04 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Chirag Anand wrote:

 We are hosting a programming competition in our college this weekend. We
 have a RHEL 4 server in our college on which we are planning to upload the
 code, compile the code there only and matching with the output. The problem
 is, that we want everyone to do all this from their rooms, from where the
 server is directly accessible. We dont people to go to labs and code. This
 will increase participation. But i am not able to find a script that does
 this, which can be run on the server through apache.

Would you like them to code while logged into the server or, just upload
the code on to the server and run it ?

Either way, would allowing uploading code to appropriate /home for the
users and asking them to compile it work ?

Since it is RHEL4, using various gcc versions to code/test and then
running it on the RHEL4 box might lead to fun :)

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu’s Shuttleworth: “I don ’t think anyone can make money from the Linux desktop ”

2008-10-31 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
 Some interesting reading here:
 
 Ubuntu's Shuttleworth: I don't think anyone can make money from the
 Linux desktop
 
 Check out this URL:
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2894tag=nl.e539

And I don't think there is anything new in that. The question for the
desktop (which is a product that cuts across various types of users) is
who actually 'pays' and how much is considered to be the ceiling from
the perspective of the user. At a larger level, distributions are
collections of binaries - how those binaries end up being consumed (in
terms of UseCases) is hyped by the media as being the platform definition.




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Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Email archival without mailing list software

2008-10-30 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Saurabh Nanda wrote:
 Read my thoughts at
 http://nandz.blogspot.com/2008/10/email-archival-without-mailing-list.html
 -- does anyone know of something similar that exists already?

I'd tend to think that any company which values the need to archive
communication related to projects has set in place tooling that allows
this to happen. The catch here is that not many small/small-ish
technology setups maintain and administer their own IT backends. For a
surprisingly large number, it is still a hosting+domain name on 3rd
party which makes putting in place a mailing list infrastructure difficult.

I remember Abhas (of Deeproot) talking about this around 2 years ago,
but I don't know if they have gone ahead and worked out some tooling to
solve this issue.


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Re: [ilugd] FSF, say goodmorning to Microsoft Azure

2008-10-28 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Linux Lingam wrote:

 for software has jumped out of tape-reels and floppies, away from cds
 to more of downloads, and quite soon,
 will rapidly move away from hard-disks, to the 'hosted computing
 model' and its ilk.
 
 or, in brutally simplistic words, 'software inside a web-browser'
 available on almost any device, but hosted and maintained over servers
 on the internet.

not 'software has ..' or 'software inside a web browser' but services
provided via a web browser. In that effect, it isn't any different from
the Nokia phone you use (or, even the Nokia keyboard that has the driver
bits fairly opaque). What I comprehend from your (rather sensationalist)
first paragraph is for the FSF to start looking into areas which are
currently being talked about inside the EFF.

From the time the mobile phones and related embedded devices provided
capacities to access applications by using IP addresses, SaaS has been
in rapid usage. However, SaaS, while becoming larger in footprint isn't
going to do away with SaaA (software as an application). What it will do
is bring into forefront a newer set of legislative and privacy issues
primarily related to data controls and data restrictions (and thus, data
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Re: [ilugd] The Google Cookie Conspiracy

2008-10-23 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
amar akshat wrote:

 I recently had my paper accepted for publication in IAENG conference WCECS
 2008 @ San Francisco regarding Google Cookies. The paper title was Security
 Mutation Algorithm For  Google Print and Google Search Security Deficiency.
 I had discovered the fact that Google in one way or the other is exploiting
 the in awareness of the layman for may be refining its searches and results.

The $subject of your mail is intriguing - is there a link to your paper
so that folks can read it ? Or, are you considering putting up a link
after the conference is over ? (I understand some conferences would not
like a link to be put up before the event)



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Re: [ilugd] Debian is GNU/Linux, Debian is the most stable and popular Free Linux distribution. It guarntees the four freedoms of GPL and any body can gain commercial benefits by selling the debian ,

2008-10-16 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
M.S.Yatnatti wrote:

[snip]

 In the following article Debian is mentioned as Non-Commercial linux 
 distribution.IN my view it is incorrect. My view is all are free linux 
 distributions in terms of freedom.All can be commercially benefited if some 
 body wants to do open source business.To understand this only common sence is 
 needed.If i am wrong please correct with your logics if you have it. Read and 
 comment with logic.Without reading dont comment.
 Following article mentions the terms commercial linux distributios and non 
 commercial� linux distribution which to my view is incorrect.If in your view 
 the terms are correct you are free to keep those terms.But be open and not 
 shut the doors of list for other views.

[snip]

 My humble request let us call Debian as GNU Linux free distribution instead 
 of calling Debian as non-commercial distribution. As Debian represents great 
 freedom and most popular Linux distribution as many other distributions are 
 based on it. Please avoid flames and personal attacks.In my view all Linux 
 distributions are free Linux distributions in terms of Freedom.For any typo 
 mistakes please forgive me.

Let me ask a different question here - if someone is not happy with or,
finds some grievance with the services/products/solutions/consultancy
offered by your business (I note that you are a CEO, and hence would be
running some business), would you prefer them to have a debate on a
mailing list or a forum with $subject like Does Mr Yatnatti's company
violate the Customer Service Agreement or, would you prefer that they
get in touch with your team/you and figure out how to resolve the crisis ?

There are ways and means of obtaining and enhancing knowledge, and,
given that this is a list for Linux Users (and a few developers), unless
you are very specific on what you desire, it would be a time-sink for a
lot of folks to read through your mails and attempt to comprehend the
end objective. For example, for this current mail, it would be a nice
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Re: [ilugd] Understanding the GNU GPL definition of free software. Is The classification of free and commercial Linux Distribution is incorrect.?

2008-10-15 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Hmm... here we go again :)

M.S.Yatnatti wrote:

 Linux distributions are free. Free means freedom and not about cost.
 whether they call themselves  free or commercial. GPL is all about
 four freedoms not about cost. FSF  suggest the few words to be
 avoided  one among them is commercial. 
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

And ... ?

[snipping off some of the stuff, since we have been recursively going
over this for a while]

 Disclaimer: This is not legal opinion. This is only for debate.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=debate has some
interesting explanations of the word debate. One of the words there is
consideration. Now, in any form of debate, each party 'listens' to the
other and thereupon attempts to build upon pre-existing argument data in
order to arrive at some conclusion.

I don't see that happening in the threads you have initiated. So, what
gives ?

Discussing about Free Software, Commercial Software, GPL and related
licensing is appropriate for a LUG list. However, not many here are
qualified lawyers and I'd still request you to get in touch with SFLC,
or even the FSF's legal folks or GPL-Violation folks if you feel that
Red Hat has violated GPL. In each case, you would be required to provide
some sort of start off point or evidence to support your contention.


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Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India

2008-10-11 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:
 Dear sir ,
 We have noted your points .Thanks for your feed back.For some persons 
 freedom� of software is looks like fun.When we lose total freedom then only 
 we understand the value of freedom. But FOSS is big community .it will take 
 care of every body's fun.Least bothered even if some body calls me stupid.I 
 am continuously getting good response. My new sub question ? � 
 Is Red Hat Enterprise
 Linux violates the fedora license Agreement (GPL) ? which is available
 at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/License Agreement By its
 trade marks policy available at
 http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/ 

And, to re-iterate - have you asked Red Hat about it ? While all the
people on the list can provide view points and interpretation, that
would be their personal points-of-view (unless they are a lawyer, or,
they represent some company's perspective on this question).

If asking Red Hat isn't what you plan to do, have you asked this query
to the SFLC ?



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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Contest To Encourage Students

2008-10-11 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 During the Software Freedom Day discussion @ Delhi, there was a point that
 how we can work towards further promoting/increasing penetration of Free
 Software in India. There was a suggestion to start a Contest at student
 level to encourage them to work on Free Software/ GNU/Linux systems.

The Seneca College Wiki has a list of problems from various Projects
that have been put up. A similar list could lend itself well to a
contest 'perhaps'.


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Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India

2008-10-10 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:

 Thanks for your response. I
 did not asked you to provide me what red hat says in its websites .As
 you have forwarded me the list. I need your views on the topic .Your logic.

I am pretty much surprised as to why you are so eager to obtain,
collect, collate and perhaps annotate everybody's views without asking
the party-in-question their views or perspective (assuming that you have
started this thread with the basic assumption that the responses in LFY
were incomplete).

One of the URLs provide you a means to contact Red Hat's Counsels. I'd
strongly suggest that you do that as well. Creating a volume of traffic
on a mailing list on an issue that a majority believe to be resolved
generally points to either [i] you are being unclear about the
fundamentals of trademarks, copyrights or GPL or, [ii] you are eager to
get Google juice to your site via trolling



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Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India

2008-10-09 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
[there is no sane way I could unwrap the word wrap in this mail -
apologies in advance]

M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote:

 I really unable to understand why my mails in the list are cobbling.Don't 
 worry about that . In few days I shall have document neatly typed in very 
 proper manner..Do you thinkh that we don't need GPL� any more or GPL is 
 strong , which can defend the internal and external threats.Is it illegal to 
 redistribute RHEL? if so why? Under what provision of trademark law� Redhat 
 claims the copyrights and where it has registered the copyrights for RHEL. 
 Does it own RHEL..How redhat is GPL compliant.Fedora is upstream and open 
 gate when it flow down stream in the name of RHEL its gate are shut.which is� 
 derived version of Fedora becomes owned by Redhat under trademarks. Your 
 views might be diffrent than others .Please let me know your views only .Let 
 us know your logic.

It appears that you have exhausted the response pool of the list. If so,
while you are typing out all the points raised by you, would it also be
possible for you to visit
http://www.redhat.com/legal/legal_statement.html (unless you have
already done so) along with
http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/ and
http://www.redhat.com/legal/legal_statement.html#claim

http://www.redhat.com/about/contact/ would provide you more information.

It is always a good idea to attempt to contact the vendor, as opposed to
a general list about questions on a vendor's product.




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Re: [ilugd] which mailing list sending/management/archiving software used for ilugd ?

2008-10-08 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Nalin Savara wrote:

 Can someone tell me which mailing list sending/management/archiving software
 used for ilugd ?

http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist would have your answer
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[ilugd] [Commercial] Software Support Engineer - Level 3 opening at Red Hat, Pune

2008-10-03 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
The role expects the Engineer to resolve complex customer problems on
Red Hat Enterprise Linux and related Red Hat products.

The Engineer is expected to work closely with the Development
Engineering Team and the Support Organizations. In this role, the
Engineer will analyze upstream development against current reported
defects and develop patches to resolve the issues.

The role expects the Software Support Engineer to

* Develop and recommend corrective workarounds.
* Use skills as a seasoned, experienced professional with a full
understanding of industry practices and company policies and procedures;
resolves a wide range of issues in imaginative as well as practical ways.
* Demonstrate considerable judgment in selecting methods and techniques
for obtaining solutions.
* Interacts with senior internal and upstream communities
* Participate in customer facing activities like customer calls and/or
customer visits to present the technical details of a technical support
issue
* Works independently on tasks with minimal guidance on complex issues.

Job Requirements :

* 5 or more years related experience, BS or MS in engineering field
* Excellent understanding of Linux kernel, virtual memory, networking
and NFS concepts and protocols.
* Upstream Linux Kernel engagement (patches submitted for upstream
inclusion) preferred
* Familiar with other operating systems including Linux, Solaris, AIX,
Tru64 and Microsoft Windows Server desirable
* Good understanding of hardware and computer architecture
* Senior development level experience with C, be comfortable to write
kernel patches
* Good communication skills in English


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Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor

2008-09-30 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Gaurav Mishra wrote:

 GPL doens`t says that when you use some code , Go spoonfeed the
 changes back to developers, The code is open all there , And the point
 made by canonical not to make it upstream for each project is valid
 and practical. No way some company go behind 1000`s bugzilla to track
 what`s happening

Hmm...ok, for a moment step back from the 'Canonical doesn't contribute'
line and associated blips to view the talk video at the point where Greg
whiteboards the way things work.

Pause it there. And, then ask yourself - if you were a consumer of a
distribution and invest in stuff around it, how would you want your
distribution to become a 'good citizen' ?

This would be the third time (and possibly the last) that I'd be writing
in about ignoring the 'Canonical' lines in Greg's talk and just think
about the whiteboard (and perhaps do a quick read through producingoss.com)




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Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor

2008-09-29 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

[snipped the quotes from Greg's blog]

 And this response brings me back to my main point of my talk, which most
 people seem to have missed as they were upset at me pointing out Canonical's
 lack of upstream contributions. And that point was, and still is: Developers
 who are not allowed to contribute to Linux should change jobs!*

^^^ that's the take-away. The whole ruckus about Canonical was something
that distracted everyone from this.

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Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor

2008-09-28 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 So, I am bringing this issue to the lista and have people's opinion as to
 how much Canonical has contributed and how wise is the decision to use
 Ubuntu?

I'd say that the 'Canonical' aspect of Greg's talk has over shadowed a
much more pertinent take-away from it - that contributions to the
upstream is a pretty good way to get things done (or, control destiny).
In fact, this message could work out nicely in events where iLUG-D
organizes, participates.


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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-23 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 I admire that piece and completely agree with you. Instead of asking new
 users to relocate, lets put more and more FOSS things on windows. Once they
 are ok with Firefox, then OO.o...and much more, it won't be much of an issue
 pulling off Windows base and replace with complete GNU/Linux system. This is
 a better approach and something which could work for masses who are not much
 aware about the vision part of Free Software movement.

but how does it look for the application developers who need to maintain
build systems for various operating system bases ?

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Re: [ilugd] Need Fedora 9 DVD.

2008-09-05 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
narendra sisodiya wrote:

 Again, I do not know, how much it is needed. Will is be benefical to have a
 repo at Delhi ?

It should be adding to the user experience when downloading Fedora from
India. So, if one were to look at setting up a Fedora mirror for the
public based out of North India, where should one start looking ?

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Re: [ilugd] Need Fedora 9 DVD.

2008-09-04 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
narendra sisodiya wrote:
 You can also take from IIT D,
 it has internal repository http://10.10.4.1

Is there a chance that IIT Delhi can be the host to an external mirror
for Fedora ?

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Re: [ilugd] Google's browser - Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Raj Mathur wrote:

 Not too late to start supporting the existing developers and projects 
 instead of starting your own incompatible projects, Google!

http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/09/01/quick-thought-on-blizzards-thoughts-on-google-chrome/

It is a pretty bizarre “market” where the major participants are, in
market share order:

   1. a repeatedly convicted monopolist that makes no money off its
product in this market
   2. a non-profit that makes no money (directly) off its product in
this market, only indirectly off ads1
   3. a company that makes no money off its product in this market
   4. a company that actually makes money2 off its product in this market
   5. (probably up to 3 or 4 soon) a company that sells a lot of ads, in
large part through #2, but which won’t make any money off its product in
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Re: [ilugd] Free Community Linux for Enterprises

2008-08-31 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Smruti wrote:

 Impressive yet scary. People always had an impression that writing open
 source software and giving them away for free is not the end. You STILL can
 earn money through support. But after things like this, is there still a
 place left for making a buck or two?

[quote]

Not surprisingly, the opportunity to cut costs is an important driver of
community Linux, but Lyman makes an interesting point, noting that a
rise in internal expertise -- and a willingness to use it -- is a key
enabler of the nascent trend.

[/quote]

That 'internal expertise' has to come from some where isn't it ?


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Re: [ilugd] Buying a laptop, suggestions

2008-08-27 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Raj Mathur wrote:

 In a nutshell, it's a Core2 Duo, 2GB of RAM, widescreen (ugh!) 1280x800 
 resolution (ugh!), 160GB disk, standard WiFi, Ethernet, DVD writer, 
 card reader, etc.

The TechSpecs state that it is a IntelPro 3945ABG - so should be good to
go on all distributions. To be absolutely sure - you might want to use a
LiveUSB to boot it up :)

And thanks for pointing this hardware, was planning to get a laptop
myself and this looks to fit the usage model


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Re: [ilugd] Meet today - feedback - where does the money comes from in FOSS

2008-08-23 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
abhishek jain wrote:

 A question arised - what is the motivator behind the FOSS development,
 is it money, or rather can it be money.

There is an existing body of papers on similar themes at
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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Quality Engineering - Identity Management openings at Red Hat

2008-07-31 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Raj Mathur wrote:
 On Thursday 31 Jul 2008, Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ) wrote:
 [snip]
 Sr Software Engineer Identity Management
 
 RH having an identity crisis? :)

LOL :) It is actually called Identity and Access Management Group ie 
IAM, but that leads to more such in-jokes


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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Quality Engineering - Identity Management openings at Red Hat

2008-07-30 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Red Hat is building out the suite of products including Red Hat
Directory Server, Red Hat Certificate System and Red Hat Enterprise IPA.

Openings are for Senior Software Engineer, Quality Engineering for
Identity and Access Management Group at Red Hat, Pune.

Essential Requirements:

Candidates to have around 5 years of related experience with the following:

+ LDAP servers or similar network based technologies
+ Comprehensive understanding of PKI, Digital Certificates, SSL
+ Knowledge of Operating Systems internals related to kerberos, DNS, SSH etc
+ Experience in building testing frameworks and test automation
+ Scripting language exposure Shell, Perl / Python
+ Experience of working with Directory Services products

CVs in Open Document Format to be sent to jrajopad at redhat dot com
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Re: [ilugd] Linux compatibility with Dell Latitude laptop

2008-07-16 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
sonika tyagi wrote:

 I am planning to buy a laptop. As my institute supports only the
 dell-latitutes at this moment. I wish to know if Fedora 7 or above (or Red
 Hat enterprise) works all right with it. Dell-precision is the seond choice
 I have if 'latitute with linux' option does not work out.

A significant number of folks on fedora-india mailing list use Dell 
Latitude(s) with Fedora or RHEL5.x and most of the stuff seems to work 
out of the box with Fedora 9. If you do have problems, try #fedora-india 
on Freenode or, the mailing list at: 
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Re: [ilugd] Licences and all that

2008-07-10 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Would you be interested in a discussion at the next ILUGD meet on the 
 various types of FOSS licences, what precisely they imply for the 
 developer, distributor and user and how to use them?  

I would be for one. Can someone please (if it is not too much of a 
problem) record this ?



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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-03 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
shirish wrote:
 Hi all,
  You guys are a real riot. I liked the whole thread :)
 
 /me ducks from a flame

Hmm... curious that you should ponder that your liking a thread would 
set ablaze the list.

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:

 I am forwarding a mail I sent to timezone mailing list sometime back.
 I should have first discussed this on the ilugd list, but it is still
 not late.

Given that you have already posted to the tz mailing list, what do you 
hope to achieve by posting it to the LUG-D list ?

 I don't mean to introduce a geographical divide, but just want the
 timezone package to be politically correct.

I read that you've stated as to being unaware of why Kolkata is the 
current choice. In that perspective, what would make your suggestion 
politically correct ?

Lastly, what has been the outcome of your mail to the tz mailing list ?


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Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena

2008-06-18 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
narendra sisodiya wrote:
 Nice to Read ..

And one can only hope that Prachi hasn't talked about information that 
should not be public





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Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] X-post - survey of FOSS success stories

2008-06-10 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

 The goal of the study is to bring out into public a reliable and
 independent compilation of some instances where FOSS implementation has
 been carried out successfully in India.

http://skoch.in/html/skoch_redhat_world_is_open_awa3.html has a list of 
projects and there are a few more with IOSN / APDIP

Caveat: I work at Red Hat, but the URL is not meant to be a PR material 
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Re: [ilugd] Binary Compatibility between distros

2008-04-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Anoop John wrote:
 I had a request recently from a firm in Trivandrum to try to set up
 their software (Altair Hyperworks) on RHEL 3. I took fedora, assuming
 that if it worked on RHEL it would on fedora too, and with some minor
 tweaks in the installation script I was able to set it up on Fedora 8.

https://www.redhat.com/apps/isv_catalog/AppProfile.html?application_id=4345 
is does appear to be listed for RHEL4 as well - did you get the RHEL3 
one working on Fedora 8 ?





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Re: [ilugd] Binary Compatibility between distros

2008-04-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Dinesh Shah wrote:

 What the kernel version has to do with running a program? It is the
 libraries that matter while running any binary. Some posters here has
 already asked the OP to run ldd and find the library dependencies.

there are a few applications which do require specific kernel versions. 
admittedly these are few, but these are from large ISVs as well.

 If you have a distro and your program which is LSB compliant you will not
 see much problems.

the configuration files may or may not be a problem, but there have been 
cases of applications not just working across RHEL3.x and RHEL4.x 
because of features included in the later version. a very rudimentary 
example could be applications assuming lower resistance from SELinux in 
RHEL5.x compared to RHEL4.x and failing in execution.

at the end of the day, the runnability of the application is something 
that is a function of the ISV development process which in turn also 
influences the OS development

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Re: [ilugd] Binary Compatibility between distros

2008-04-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Harish Pillay wrote:

  If you have a distro and your program which is LSB compliant you will not
  see much problems.
 
 Yes, that is what LSB has helped achieve.

not completely though. the LSB Application Testing suite checks for 
symbol usage across what can be called the  highest common factor ie 
hugely generic across distributions. there are still distribution 
specific symbols (among other things) that applications can and do use 
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Re: [ilugd] Bangalore, 15th April: Candle light vigil for Document Freedom

2008-04-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Linux Lingam wrote:

 wish our community in delhi was this active. any takers at RKGIT?

http://www.ukuug.org/ooxml/ has a well reasoned argument on the ooxml issue




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Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml

2008-03-20 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Nagarjuna G. wrote:
| India's BIS votes against ooxml.  out of 19 members, five of them did not
| attend the meeting, one of them abstained, five voted in favor of
ooxml, and
| the rest voted against.

Congratulations to all those who worked long, worked hard and worked
against tremendous odds to make this happen.

~sankarshan

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[ilugd] [Cross Posted] Mozilla Project Accepted for SoC

2008-03-18 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2008/03/mozilla_project_accepted_for_s.html

Mozilla Project Accepted for SoC

The Mozilla Project has been accepted to participate in the Google
Summer of Code.

The student application period opens in a week's time, on March 24th,
and itself only lasts a week. Therefore, we need to do two things before
then:

~   1. Whip the proposed projects list into shape. Please continue to
brainstorm here. We're looking for more ideas than we've currently got.
if you suggested something earlier, check back to see if we have any
questions about your idea.
~   2. Find some students. If you know of any, please encourage them to
check the project list and consider applying.


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Re: [ilugd] Share Your presentations of freed.in 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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| No Reply till now..:(

http://frodo.hserus.net/pipermail/freed/2008-February/000155.html





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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Software Engineer opening at Red Hat (Pune)

2008-03-09 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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There is an opening for a Software Engineer at Red Hat (Pune) in the
team that I am part of. The ideal candidate is required to have a good
grasp of POSIX standards, FHS guidelines and possess familiarity with
LSB guidelines pertaining to distributions. Should be comfortable with
using traditional debugging tools for userspace, can demonstrate
competence in scripting and scripting languages and familiar with the
processes of producing open source software. We are looking at relevant
experience of around 3 years, but that is flexible

If interested, do drop a mail with your CV attached (PDF / text / ODF)
along with a small portfolio of code to sankar at redhat dot com. Please
do put Software Engineer in the $SUBJECT line.  Please do not reply to
this list.

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Re: [ilugd] eeepc.in any users here?

2008-03-05 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Vikas Rawal wrote:

| We have our own HCL MiLeap to compete with EEEPC. For roughly similar
| price, MiLeap gives a conventional 30 GB HDD rather than a 4 GB solid
| state drive in EEEPC. MiLeap also has a tablet style thing (MiLeap Y)
| for about 30K.

Isn't the one with the conventional HDD priced at ~30K ?



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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Friendly budget 2008?

2008-02-29 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

| taxing packaged software does not necessarily mean the budget is FOSS
| friendly. i would call the budget foss-friendly ONLY IF this tax, or
| some part of this tax, is used by the government to fund, support,
| nurture, adopt, and further FOSS development and deployment in the
| country and globally.

Venkatesh pointed out this URL to me the other day:
http://planningcommission.nic.in/aboutus/committee/wrkgrp11/wg11_IT.pdf
[~ 3 MB]

The intent is fairly well defined, the will to action needs to be measured


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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Friendly budget 2008?

2008-02-29 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

| plain htm summary somewhere?

The fine gentleman who had passed the PDF link had also expressed the
intent to summarize it on his very fine blog ;) ie you-know-whom-to-poke





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Re: [ilugd] Invitation to Hindi, Kasmiri, and Urdu localisation workshop at Sarai: 7-8 Mar.

2008-02-27 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

| surely you mean internationalisation? afaik localisation is country/
| region specific and not language specific

http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Concepts
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source Product/Item comparison tool

2008-02-20 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Is there any Open Source tool to compare items where users can select n
| number of items and compare them in tabular format.

Are you asking for a view aspect of a query run on a database that has
the specific features_to_compare per item ?


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Re: [ilugd] And the winners for FOSS India Awards are...

2008-02-19 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Top 20 winners for FOSS India Awards were finalised on 15th of Feb during
| Open Source India Week's Delhi edition. NRCFOSS sponsored these awards by
| taking care of the prize money, which is Rs 5 lakh-- where each winner
| will get Rs 25,000!

Kind of interesting to note that a few GSoC candidates did not put in
their bits ... *sigh*


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Re: [ilugd] Linux Distros DVD and CDs

2008-02-17 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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narendra sisodiya wrote:

| at [EMAIL PROTECTED] , we conduct various Linux workshop and Installathon 
inside
| campus. anybody/company willing to distribute Distro DVDs/CDs via
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] IITD students can contact us.

Doesn't the [EMAIL PROTECTED] have a local mirror/sync of the distributions ?

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Re: [ilugd] what news of OSIW

2008-02-15 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

| am sure people are attending. what's happening?
| how's it going?
| haven't been able to stumble across any news from the mumbai and
| bangalore segments either.

If you wait a wee bit longer, I am sure Rahul's going to dedicate an
issue to it :)

| strangely the site doesn't have the daily update somewhere, either.

tsck tsck - even twitter would have helped




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Re: [ilugd] computer teaching compulsory in haryana

2008-02-15 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

| the article does not mention whether this is based on muft and mukt
| software and world-class open-standards.
| anybody knows?

If it is the same regime that was around 2 years back then it might not
be muft-mukt etc etc. I'll ask around though - thanks for the pointer



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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Shrinivasan T wrote:

| now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.
|
| Requirement is
| 1. multi user
| 2. every user can upload files on any format
| 3. email notification on new file arrival to all users
| 4. search
| 5. download link
| 6. if file is video or audio play it online.
| 7. list file by user, type, tag, category etc.

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ allows you to see how various CMS match up.
Given that you have more or less narrowed down the requirement
specification, you should be able to figure out what you need

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Re: [ilugd] SATA Disk not detected at time of installation

2008-02-11 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Lokesh Bhog wrote:
| Please let me know if there are know issues with installing RHEL 3.0
on SATA Disk ST3160215AS  160GB  - Has any one tried installing Linux
using this hard disk - which version of Linux supports this?

RHEL3 Update 5 should have the necessary bits enabled. Do check up with
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[ilugd] Thread Hijacking [was:Re: Uptime]

2007-11-21 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Norat Saraswat wrote:
 hi all
 good day
 i want to a  used(6 month)   laptop
 if any one have and want to sell than tellme

Now look here Norat, with whatever good intentions you may be having,
thread-hijacking [1] is really a bad way to go forward on a mailing list
(LUG list or any other). Take some time to compose a new mail and of
course try and be a bit polite :)

:sankarshan


[1] http://www.answers.com/topic/thread-hijacking
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Re: [ilugd] archives

2007-11-11 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

 I went to the ilugd website, clicked mailinglists, and then clicked  
 this list and then clicked archives and got nowhere

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi seems to work for me
- - is it something else you are looking for ?


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[ilugd] [OT] Re: [Commercial] Why not enroll in FOSS India Awards?

2007-10-31 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Niraj Sahay wrote:
 Are you working on any free software or open source (FOSS) project? Do 
 you know anyone who is?

For a brief moment I read the $SUBJECT as why *not* in the sense of why
one should not enroll :) you might have chosen another sentence
construct for better stickiness


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Re: [ilugd] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-30 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

 upcoming and/or facebook is another.
 
 facebook? i think they got bought over by microsoft. also wonder how
 easy is it for people to view, add, edit, or comment *without*
 registering to their service. 

How about upcoming then ?


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Re: [ilugd] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

 am googling since two days, can't find a complete and/or comprehensive
 list of foss or foss-related events scheduled for 2008.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/community/events is one road to
take, upcoming and/or facebook is another. Point of course is that most
of the FOSS events in India don't have the time or energy to chalk out
a media/public face plan that would ensure greater and organised
participation from delegates and speakers

LFY had its moments to emerge as the consolidated calendar site, but I'd
daresay that they have lost it

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Re: [ilugd] Firefox behaves differently on Linux?

2007-10-13 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Subhodip Biswas wrote:
 Hmmm .. i agree with the fact that alt+number does have limitation if
 number of tabs are in two digits.
 So ctrl+tab or ctrl+pgdn is more efficient.

Ctrl+Tab does allow you to flip through the open tabs doesn't it ? How
much does Tab Mix Plus
[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1122] help ?




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Re: [ilugd] Spam Re: Hindi Rendering Problem

2007-10-06 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 03-Oct-07, at 1:44 PM, Ajay Kumar wrote:
 
 Type about:buildconfig without the quotes in firefox's address box.
 You will see something like the following, and would need to check for
 the --enable-pango flag.
 
 wonderful - so after 3 years or so, firefox guys are uninterested in  
 the second largest country in the world. How come Konqueror manages it?

Now I am getting a bit confused here. Ajay wrote about checking for ie
whether the --enable-pango flag exists or not. Not checking it ie
enabling it. I have no doubts that Konqueror is a fine browser capable
of handling Indic display/rendering and printing. However, that is
precisely not the point. In the last 2 cases where I have read (either
on mailing list or IRC) about Firefox b0rking on Indic, screenshots are
in place to show that given a particular base OS and a particular
Firefox release, Indic rendering does work (and these days as does Indic
printing). What could be well served if out of all this Konqueror is
best, Firefox drags a** mail a framework of some sort arises which is
relevant to test cases that can prove whether the particular website
when viewed using Firefox provides a functionally complete viewing
experience. That might turn out to be more than helpful given that the
Firefox roadmap is perhaps aimed at a Cairo integration too (from
existing Pango).

If it is a distribution specific issue, you are practised enough to file
a distribution bug along side filing one upstream. Additionally, there
is a Mozilla Project Day at foss.in/2007 - do raise these issues there
ie if you still want to see Firefox as a browser comparable to if not
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Re: [ilugd] Hindi Rendering Problem

2007-10-02 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Puneet Lakhina wrote:

 I was trying to view a website in Hindi when i encountered this problem, a
 website: http://manaskriti.com/kaavyaalaya/kaho_kaise_ho.stm
 using unicode for hindi text: displays improperly on my Firefox 2.0.0.6. The
 problem is that the matras are placed incorrectly, then the adhe akshar
 appear with a halant and not as aadhe akshar(technically correct but its
 difficult to read that ways).
 
 ैE.g. लेिकन renders as लेकिन

Can you take a quick look at the following:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/runa-sankarshan/1475000680/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/runa-sankarshan/1475000624/

If they are buggy still would help me file relevant bugs

:Sankarshan

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Re: [ilugd] ssh on a different virtual console

2007-08-22 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Vikas Rawal wrote:
 I would like to run an x-server on a separate virtual console
 (control+alt+f12), open an x-term there, ssh to the server, and start
 gnome. That should give me access to two different machines on two
 virtual consoles (my local machine on ctrl+alt+f7 and remote machine
 on ctrl+alt+f12).

gdmflexiserver ? Although why you won't use screen within your local
machine's terminal is a question :)


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Re: [ilugd] Mandriva 2007 Spring Edition

2007-08-16 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 16-Aug-07, at 3:03 PM, Sahil Dave wrote:
 
 the free edittion is really good, even i am using it..
 but one of my friend wants the spring edition specifically, may be  
 for some
 official purpose.
 
 the spring edition *is* free - there *is* a free dvd for download

I guess you did make your point of view amply clear - what would be far
more interesting is why you seem/appear not to be in favor of someone
buying a Mandriva ?


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Re: [ilugd] Mandriva 2007 Spring Edition

2007-08-16 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

 a friend of mine 'bought' a Mandriva, spent USD 80 on it, because he  
 wanted a box, manual and support. I was quite happy because that way  
 Mandriva gets some money to support the great work they are doing.  

Good. That clears up one of my doubts as to whether you were more biased
towards never buy/purchase what is available for download group that
sometimes crops up on various mailing lists.

 But, i find implied somewhere in some of the comments on this thread,  
 the idea that 'free' mandriva is 'pirated'. It is not. I think the  
 paid for versions have some closed drivers or some other features.  
 And has more software on the DVD than the free DVD - which means what  
 is missing on the DVD has to be downloaded - that's all.

In spite of the facility of being able to download bits that make the
free DVD equivalent to the commercial DVD, if the original question was
with a clear intent of willingness to pay, I would say that it will be
generally better to encourage folks to pay to purchase.


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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Software Engineer openings at Red Hat (Pune)

2007-08-05 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Red Hat has multiple openings for Software Engineers at Pune.

Provided below are the job descriptions along with TAGs which should be
used in $SUBJECT line of the application.

Please ensure that you provide the CV in Open Document Format (ODF) to
sankar {at} redhat {dot} com and jrajopad {at} redhat {dot} com.

For both the openings participation in existing Free and Open Source
projects would be an added advantage.

* Sr Software Engineer (SrSWENGG)

Software engineer with a strong technical background to ensure the
reliability of Red Hat products and services. The primary focus will be
to solicit and prioritize detailed feature requests to support software
portfolios running within the larger Red Hat Enterprise Linux ecosystem.
An ideal candidate would have demonstrated people, project management
experience and excellent communication skills. Other skills include
software skills to develop the test environment, create test automation,
execute functional tests, deliver in depth defect reports

Required Skills:

Knowledge of Standards and Guidelines pertaining to the following:

+ FHS
+ LSB
+ Freedesktop Standards
+ Portland Project Guidelines
+ Packaging Guidelines
+ Knowledge of RPM
+ Python, Ruby
+ GNU Coding Standards
+ Autoconf/Automake
+ GDB

Profile:

o 5+ years work experience with a designing, coding, debugging, and
deploying software in a leadership role.
o Firm foundation in at least one object oriented programming language
(Python or Ruby) with some experience of other technologies,  scripting
languages, databases and software engineering. (essential)
o Robust experience of *nix /APIs/ ABI compatibility. (essential)
o An understanding of how commercial software fits into an Open Source
world.
o Deep understanding of FHS, LSB, GNU coding standards, Guidelines.
(Essential)
o Strong proficiency with RPM and RPM specfile syntax.
o Understanding of configuration management principles.
o Must understand the general software development release cycle, source
management and defect management methodologies in Linux environment.

* Associate Software Engineer (ASWENGG)

Software engineer with a strong technical background to ensure the
reliability of Red Hat products and services. The primary focus will be
to solicit and prioritize detailed feature requests to support software
portfolios running within the larger Red Hat Enterprise Linux ecosystem.
An ideal candidate would have demonstrated people, project management
experience and excellent communication skills. Other skills include
software skills to develop the test environment, create test automation,
execute functional tests, deliver in depth defect reports

Required Skills:

Knowledge of Standards and Guidelines pertaining to the following:

+ FHS
+ Packaging Guidelines
+ Knowledge of RPM
+ Python, Ruby
+ GNU Coding Standards
+ Autoconf/Automake
+ GDB

Profile:

o 1+ years work experience with a designing, coding, debugging software
o Firm foundation in at least one object oriented programming language
(Python or Ruby) with some experience of other technologies,  scripting
languages, databases and software engineering. (essential)
o Robust experience of *nix /APIs/ ABI compatibility. (essential)
o Strong proficiency with RPM and RPM specfile syntax.
o Understanding of configuration management principles.
o Must understand the general software development release cycle, source
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Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

 what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month?
 dvd discs have come down in price, but some of the data-files are
 individually larger than 10gb (home video) and cutting and storing
 sliced versions across discs is rather inelegant.

If you can handle bandwidth cost, go for Amazon's service, might be
helpful. Else buy some HDD and back them up using amanda (perhaps ?)

On a side note, you are becoming somewhat of a niche UseCase - worth a
mention in your LFY column ;)


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