Re: Safeguarding Volumes

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On Aug 19, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Al Poulin 
mailto:alfred.pou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would like to reformat an external hard drive at the media level, hopefully 
to salvage it for another few years. It contains three CCC volumes that I want 
to safeguard. A fourth volume has corrupted files. What is the best procedure? 
All volumes are formatted Journaled HFS Plus, NOT APFS.

As I understand it, Disk Utility First Aid

I use Carbon Copy Cloner to backup four computers to the external drive as 
bootable clones. Each CCC volume resides in its own partition. The volume for 
my main computer has corrupted files which have not been resolved by 
reformatting that volume singly with Disk Utility Erase and then cloning anew. 
I want the clones to remain bootable.

Having all the volumes on one physical disk is a ‘all your eggs in one basket’ 
and that basket is starting to fall apart...file corruption that is NOT fixed 
by fixed by reformatting and restoring a volume on a partition is very often 
indicative of hardware failure impending. (unless the corrupted files are ALSO 
corrupted on your main computer, in which case your backup is faithfully doing 
it’s thing.)

What is cheaper to replace: a hard drive? or your data? That’s always the most 
relevant question to ask in these cases.


Can I simply drag each volume to another media, to either my iMac’s internal 
drive or another external drive?

I would use CCC to copy each volume from the multi-partition drive to a new HDD 
for each one. Ideally more than one copy,  and then stored in separate physical 
locations. If they’re small volumes, you can use SSD’s..ssd’s are quite 
reliable now and if you’re backing up small volumes little ones are pretty 
inexpensive. 120 gb ones can be had for around $20) Heck depending on the size, 
you might get away with USB sticks…

For archival purposes SSDs are pretty good.

Would I need to create separate partitions for each volume? Otherwise, should 
the volumes be set into disk images? Bombich (CCC vendor) recommends using disk 
images “sparingly.” Then, would I update each disk image in subsequent clones, 
or would I “Restore” each volume to permit updating the clones?

I would not use disk images.



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Re: iMac G5

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You can try TenFourFox: https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ That 
gives you an up-to-date browser.


On May 18, 2021, at 9:45 AM, R. A. Cantrell 
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I was gifted an iMac G5 1.8 a few years ago and fiddled with it a while and 
could not get it to a very serviceable situation. Has Safari, has Firefox, but 
I get a lot of "could not establish secure connection" and "unsupported 
browser" responses. I would like to get it sorted out so that I can re-gift it 
to some people who need it. It has 10.4.11 running and the computer seems to 
run right, but it will present insurmountable difficulties for the intended end 
user. Any help?
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Re: Which Mac group?

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On May 16, 2021, at 8:22 PM, Paul Londoner 
mailto:paul.londo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Bruce Johnson, I thought I should tell you how things have moved on for me.

I never said I could afford anything like $649, or even $400! I'd never even 
heard of Fleabay before, but I joined and found out that they had no Macs near 
me. I assume this is because I'm not in the USA.

Wow, I was using an old nickname for E-Bay in that email


Next, I bought a cheap MacBook Pro 13" (mid 2012) with 8Gb and a 500Gb HDD from 
eBay for less than the equivalent of $267. I was very happy with this, but 
after about two weeks the screen started flickering like mad, as well as 
blanking out and turning green! I don't think this had anything to do with me 
installing "Patched Sur", because it didn't happen immediately after that.


That indicates  a loose screen cable connection, which it appears you 
discovered!

After this, I thought I should buy another, cheaper MacBook Pro 13" (mid 2012) 
and see what I could do with it. I bought one for just under the equivalent of 
$151 also from eBay, which was showing the screen saying that it couldn't find 
an operating system. After it was delivered, I soon had Catalina installed on 
its 500Gb HDD. I quickly found out that this MBP (mid 2012) has only 4Gb of 
RAM, the very reason why I bought my second recent Mac, although it's 
upgradedable! It seemed to work more slowly than the other MBP.

Slower RAM and only 4GB of it will do that every time.


Later on, I bought a Philips 00 screwdriver and removed the back of the MBP 
with the faulty screen. I also have a new set of Torx screwdrivers. I had a 
look round and checked that the Philips 00 screwdriver would also unscrew the 
bracket holding the RAM in.

You do not need to unscrew any brackets to replace RAM in MacBooks with 
replaceable RAM! This is OWC’s RAM replacement video 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh9hazA5hRo for that model. All you need to do 
is remove the 10 screws holding on the back; the ram has spring clips holding 
it in.


 replaced the back of this MBP, but I lost one screw and another one wouldn't 
go in! The next thing I knew, I found that the screen was no longer giving me 
any problems!  This is still the situation a few days later and I'm  typing 
this message on it!

https://www.ifixit.com is your go-to guide for all of this. All of their Mac 
disassembly guides are excellent. I”d take another crack at your 2013

If you ever need to work on things with teensy screws, I ABSOLUTELY reccomend 
getting a piece of egg-crate foam like this 
https://foamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Egg-Crate-Foam.jpg You can 
usually find a chunk for free. This keeps all the teensy screws accessible and 
contained.  The best part is that I can dig into each well with my fingers and 
pick up one screw without disturbing any og the surrounding wells…whenever I 
work on a Mac or PC I can put the case screws into the wells in the same 
pattern they go in, put the screws for a subassembly together, etc.

It’s saved my butt a thousand times over.


I've made up a music track in Logic X Pro, and made a 1080p video on my Nokia 
2.3 phone and MBA. I've also made a 1080p video on my Nokia 2.3 phone and my 
first MBP after the faulty screen problem disappeared. I'm now planning to 
upgrade one of both of my MBP computers to 16Gb and an SSD.


Both excellent and worthwhile upgrades.

I hear that some people can even upgrade the CPU on these 2012 MBP models from 
i5 to i7, so I'm considering having that done, but I don't think I could do it 
myself. Some people like to use the Davinci Resolve software, but I'm not sure 
what it can do which iMovie can't. Does it do CGI or what's so special about 
it? My ambition is to upgrade my MBP 2012 computers to be more powerful than 
models from years later. My ultimate goal is to create a clone of an Apple 
Silicon MacBook, using an iPad, a Raspberry Pi, or a Banana Pi computer.

That…won’t work very well. Sure the iPad, RasPi is ARM based, but the M1 is 
more than just the SOC Apple uses (which, BTW is a LOT more powerful than any 
of the chips in the aforementioned devices.)

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Re: Which Mac group?

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On Apr 1, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Paul Londoner 
mailto:paul.londo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Bruce Johnson, I've done some more research on the Apple Appstore using the 
facility of clicking on the link "runs on this MacBook Air" to check 
compatibiliy on older versions of macOS and here's what I found out.

SOFTWARE FROM APPLE APPSTORE WHICH  I HAVE INSTALLED OR CONSIDERED INSTALLING 
ON MY MACBOOK AIR EARLY 2014 (4GB) SO WOULD ALSO WANT TO RUN ON A "MacBook Pro 
17" 2.66GHz Core i7 mid 2010"

Latest supported macOS is only 10.13 High Sierra!! 
(EveryMac.com<http://EveryMac.com>)


https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT210222

I assume that older versions of the apps above are available from the 
Developers section of the Apple website, requiring a $99 annual subscription. 
Can you tell me which of the apps above is available from there for macOS 10.13 
High Sierra?

I don’t have a paid subscription to the developer section, so I don’t know. I 
have a free one and there are only a variety of developer tools available to me 
for downloading.

Given that these seem to be requirements for you; I'd start looking for a newer 
MacBook pro. Mid 2012 ones will run Catalina, I just worked on one of those 
yesterday. The cutoff for MacBook Pros for Big Sur is mid 2013.

Some casual Googling turned up this deal : 
https://www.macofalltrades.com/apple-macbook-pro-15-inch-2-3ghz-quad-core-i7-retina-mid-2012-mc975ll-a-1-excellent-condition/?setCurrencyId=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw3pWDBhB3EiwAV1c5rMTXqV0raCGYfhx6oSMEULzyEAu6NG5edyg-sjsr20PODHpL1XVTLRoC5bcQAvD_BwE

Also don't discount picking up an 8GB MacBook Air 2014; I found lots for ~ $400 
on fleabay.



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Re: Which Mac group?

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On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:12 PM, Paul Londoner 
mailto:paul.londo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have done a lot of research into the Mac and its software. What I found out 
was that unless you have the latest macOS installed, then when you try to 
download apps from the Apple Appstore, you either can't download them or can't 
run them.

This isn’t even remotely true. Yes there are apps that require Big sur, but 
when you log into the App store it knows what version of OS X you’re running. 
Compatibility to older versions of the OS is up to the app developers 
themselves. For Apple products, that is most likely to be limited to only the 
past two or three versions.

I found out about this using a Toshiba Satellite Hackintosh with High Sierra 
installed. I even found out where the settings were that said which version of 
macOS was required. I think this was in the plist files. I changed these 
settings to match High Sierra, but these programs still didn't run.

Changing the plist for the App will not change whether or not it runs in that 
OS. They’re not artificially limiting you to a set OS, the OS version in the 
plist file reflects the required support libraries in the OS.

>From what I've heard, unless I was running the latest macOS Big Sur, I heard 
>about a job training course for designing a UI. It said that I must own a Mac 
>to do this and use particular software, but I can't remember the name of this 
>software at the moment. AFAIK, I was only able to download XCode, and Keynote 
>from the Apple App Store, because I'm running macOS Big Sur. Even If I was 
>running Catalina I may not have been allowed to download this software.

The current compatibility for Xcode in the App store is listed as 10.15.4 
Keynote only require 10.15 or later. If you run the App store App it tells you 
‘it will run on this ” if you click on that it switches to tell 
you the minimum version

Older mac OS versions are freely available from Apple:  
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211683 back to Yosemite 10.10 and 10.7 and 
10.8 are available for purchase 
https://www.apple.com/shop/help/downloadable_software

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Re: Which Mac group?

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Honestly this is the last LowEndMac Google group running, afaik. I haven’t 
gotten any  post from any of the others in a long time.

The list of Macs that run Big Sur is pretty straight forward 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211238 and it does go back quite a way; The 
machine I’m writing this on is a 2014 MBA with 4 MB of ram, running Big Sur. 
That said it’s not my main system; I haven’t used it as such for a while. But 
with 4GB you’ve always had to balance how many apps you’re running with what 
you’re doing. This works well as email/web browsing/text editing/photos system.

Honestly I’ve been down the  same Hackintosh and ‘hacked OS’ macs path and it’s 
been more trouble in the end, than it was
worth. I found I was spending more time working ON my computer than working 
WITH it.

Find a Mac you can afford on that list above move on.


On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:46 AM, PaulBX 
mailto:paul.londo...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Unfortunately I haven't used this group for some time, but have still been 
getting emails from it.


In 2012 I bought a Blueberry iMac G3 (1999) and not long after that I got a Mac 
Pro G4 "Quicksilver" Mac free of charge from Freecycle. My motive for getting 
both of these Macs was to find out more about the Mac in general, especially as 
I was doing some free music recording sessions in a studio where the sound 
engineer/producer was using Logic Pro 9. I think the Mac in the studio was a 
desktop Mac Pro with an Intel Xeon CPU, but whatever model it was it had a 
silver mesh case.


Unfortunately what I found out was that these Macs had virtually nothing in 
common with the Mac in the studio and wouldn't even run Safari! I no longer own 
either of these Macs.


After this experience I decided to create a Hackintosh laptop, by installing 
hacked versions of macOS from the website Hackintosh Zone. Unfortunately the 
two or three times I did this it was with limited success. There were problems 
with the graphics and one installation refused to boot up without the USB 
installer being plugged in. Each time I was only able to use the Hackintosh for 
a few weeks.


Eventually I decided to buy a new/old MacBook, which could run the latest macOS 
Big Sur. I now own a MacBook Air 13 inch (early 2014). I don't think this group 
is suitable for someone who owns this type of Mac so I am looking for another 
group which would support it. My MacBook Air has 4Gb of RAM and I’ve started 
getting reports that my memory is low, so I should close some apps.


One idea of mine is to buy whichever old MacBook Air or MacBook Pro I can 
afford, which has at least 8Gb RAM fitted, then install a patched version of 
macOS Big Sur.


I have looked on the website lowendmac.com<http://lowendmac.com> as well as on 
Google Groups to try and find another group which would be more suitable for me 
in my current situation, but I can't see a list of groups on 
lowendmac.com<http://lowendmac.com/> and as for Google groups all I can say is 
groups that I am a member of or have read using Google Chrome. I can't bring up 
an index listing lots of groups.



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Re: External backup drive recommendations

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I’ll second Mark’s suggestion, I've had good luck with their HDD’s (both 2.5” 
and 3.5” ) for Time Machine use.

On Jan 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Mark Syder 
mailto:marksy...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I like Seagate external discs. If she's not using a large amount of the 1Tb, a 
disc is probably good enough.

Mark

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 01:28, William Spencer 
mailto:wspence...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there: My wife’s 2nd computer has just been replaced with a new 1TB SSD 
Mini, and we need to get a backup for it. I’d be glad to know your recommended 
sources, makers, and types (meaning HD vs. SSD). The size would be probably 
1-1.5 TB, I guess, no need for more than that as far as I know; the data at 
issue will not change very often at all since it’s a single use/function 
machine—meaning it only gets used for one specific activity that does not 
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Re: Time Machine configuration...?

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“It just works!” :-) Glad it’s working!!!

On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Bill Spencer 
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Well, I have no idea how it happened, but the iTunes drive is already getting 
backed up. So I bothered you for nothing, more or less. Thanks! Bill

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 1:45:49 PM UTC-5 
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On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote:

I have reformatted the backup drive and set TM to back up the internal HD to 
it, but how do I point the live external iTunes folder to the backup drive 
also? I can't see any way to do that. Thanks again! me


The directions are here: 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3153995/how-to-make-sure-time-machine-backs-up-external-drives.html

Time Machine automatically puts external HD’s on the exclusion list, so you 
have to remove the iTunes drive from there before you can include the iTunes in 
the backup.


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Re: Time Machine configuration...?

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On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

I have reformatted the backup drive and set TM to back up the internal HD to 
it, but how do I point the live external iTunes folder to the backup drive 
also? I can't see any way to do that. Thanks again! me


The directions are here: 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3153995/how-to-make-sure-time-machine-backs-up-external-drives.html

Time Machine automatically puts external HD’s on the exclusion list, so you 
have to remove the iTunes drive from there before you can include the iTunes in 
the backup.


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Re: Time Machine configuration...?

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On Jan 17, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Thank you both for this information. Unfortunately I am not in a position to 
buy another external HD so I will have to manage with what I have. In reading 
through your comments, I realized that there's no need for the iTunes backup to 
be in a separate partition (at least, I think this is so); I have no idea why I 
set things up that way originally. (I continue to refer to "iTunes" even though 
it's not called that anymore...one cannot usually teach old dogs new tricks.) 
Here's what I think I'll do, subject to your better advice:

  1.  Reformat the backup drive to APFS without a partition
  2.  Set up Time Machine to back up the main HD to the newly-formatted 
external HD
  3.  Copy the contents of the current iTunes drive to the newly-formatted 
backup drive.
  4.  Reformat the current iTunes drive to the new format
  5.  Copy the backed-up iTunes material back to the newly-reformatted external 
iTunes drive
  6.  Set up Time Machine to back up the external iTunes drive to the 
newly-formatted external HD

Will this approach work? Or, what do I need to change in that proposal? Again, 
my thanks for your input. Bill

To re-aquaint myself with the original problem: you have your iTunes stuff on 
an external drive by itself, and a backup drive that was used by CCC to back up 
the iTunes volume and internal HD’s as separate volumes? You never actually 
specified what was on each external volume.

if it’s like this:
external Disk 1: iTunes
external Disk 2:Partition 1  existing CCC internal backup, partition 2 existing 
CCC itunes backup

1) reformat backup drive as a single partition. I do not know if the OS lets 
you format hard drives as APFS, but it will be offered as an option if so. 
(Remember, drive reformats like this are done at the Physical disk level in 
Disk Utility the one named Seagate or WD something something, not the Volume 
level)

2) Set this newly formatted volume as your Time Machine volume and point both 
the internal HD and external iTunes **folder** to it for backing up.

No need to be copying back and forth like you were planning.

OTOH if the partition drive is your internal backup and your ‘live’ iTunes 
volume, I’d reformat the remaining one copy the live iTunes to it and then 
reformat the whole new backup drive as a single volume and then point the 
internal HD and the iTunes folder on the (now) external iTunes volume to Time 
Machine.

Time machine isn’t picky about the drive formatting it’s backing up, just the 
formatting of it’s drive.

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Re: Time Machine configuration...?

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On Jan 1, 2021, at 12:57 PM, William Spencer 
mailto:wspence...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi there: I’ve got Big Sur installed now, and I’m hoping to be able to use Time 
Machine to do my backing up rather than Carbon Copy Cloner, which is what I’ve 
been using for quite a while now. But I can’t see how to configure TM to do 
what I need. Here’s the setup:

  *   I have three physical HDs, one internal to the Mini and two external.
  *   One of the externals is partitioned, so the system actually thinks I have 
four HDs.
  *   The idea is to back up the internal to one partition and the standalone 
external to the other partition.

 Time Machine is a real ‘fire and forget’ backup system…you turn it on and you 
don’t have to fuss with it ever again.

Time machine backs up the booted volume (plus any mounted external volume, 
optionally, see link below)

IS the standalone external another bootable drive? Then, unfortunately what I 
would do is back it up with CCC (or it’s own Time Machine Configuration while 
booted) That way you can do the back up internal to one partition, the external 
to another. and be able to recover them both as bootable drives; you cannot use 
a bootable volume backed up as a mounted external drive in Migration Assistant 
(which is how you restore an entire volume from Time Machine)

  *   TM isn’t showing me one of the (partitioned) HDs as a possible 
destination for a backup.

Likely it is because it’s not the correct format (see below)


  *   It also isn’t showing me the internal HD as a source.

You don’t select a source in Time Machine. It backs up the currently booted 
volume. By default it excludes external drives but you can undo that in the 
preferences: 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3153995/how-to-make-sure-time-machine-backs-up-external-drives.html
 (you can also exclude items on the boot drive that way as well. My email 
folders, for example are excluded, because all my email “lives” on the server, 
so restoring my email is merely a matter gdropping the account, re-adding it 
and re-synching the folders.

This doesn’t work if you use POP or have local non-synched folder (they show as 
‘On my Mac’ in the list in Mail)

  *   The two it's showing (which are for what used to be called iTunes, one 
the source and the other the destination) are formatted as Mac OS Extended 
(Journaled); the two it isn’t showing (for the HD itself, ditto) are formatted 
as APFS.

I”m not sure why, Big Sur is supposed to use APFS fro Time Machine, at least 
per the Ars Techhnica Big Review: 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/macos-11-0-big-sur-the-ars-technica-review/9/#h1


  *   Is that difference in format a (or the) issue?
  *   If I reformat anything I will lose all that data, as you know.
  *   How can I proceed?

Honestly, what I would do is purchase a new larger external HDD (mine is a 4TB 
one I got at Costco for ~$80-$90 I think, on sale) and set it up as one or two 
time machine volumes. (depending on why you want those two drives backed up to 
different partitions)

Time Machine is a multi-point backup/restore system (It’s been a very long time 
since I've used CCC for this purpose) It maintains a database of changed files 
and folders and only backs up the changes as it goes. So you want to have (imo) 
at a minimum 2X your backed up data as free space, 3X is closer to optimal.

So I’d look at how much you have to back up to start, and size it from there.

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Re: Video editing question

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On Dec 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, William Spencer 
mailto:wspence...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi there: I seem to be being hauled toward getting into some basic video 
editing/production. I could please use some insight into the 
advantages/disadvantages of Final Cut Pro vs. Adobe Premiere Elements. I have 
never really done anything with video editing, and I really doubt I will have 
any very high-end needs—pretty basic is what I’m expecting. The pricing is 
quite different from what I can see, and cheaper is certainly better if 
possible.


I’ll echo Beverly here; before jumping into the deep end make sure iMovie 
doesn’t do what you need; I’ts worth a try anyway, and for someone new to the 
process offers a gentler learning curve...
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Re: Backing up options for the new OS

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Presuming that Apple doesn’t change things for OS 11, yes you can. By default 
Time machine doesn’t back them up but you can configure it to do so.

https://eclecticlight.co/2017/05/25/advanced-time-machine-backups-multiple-sources-multiple-destinations/


On Nov 3, 2020, at 6:31 PM, William Spencer 
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Hi there: Here’s the story: I have two external drives in addition to the 
internal one on the Mini listed below. One of the externals contains everything 
that used to be in iTunes (I haven’t bothered to rename to drive), because the 
main HD is not roomy enough to hold it all. The other external drive is the 
backup, partitioned to handle the main HD and the iTunes material separately. 
Up to now I have been using Carbon Copy Cloner to make my weekly backups 
because—well, I don’t remember why it appeared at the time that Time Machine 
could not handle backing up everything since it’s split among two different 
drives (one internal and one external), but that’s what I thought so there we 
are.

With the new OS that Apple is issuing in the near future I would like to 
revisit the backup strategy, please. Could someone please confirm whether or 
not I can back up everything using Time Machine given the way it’s all 
configured now? And is Time Machine the best tool for backing up, or should I 
continue using CCC even though it may not be compatible with the new OS right 
away?

All thoughts welcome. Thanks in advance, as always!
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Re: Keychain loosing passwords

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:32 PM, 'Russell Courtenay' via iMac Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I fear: Apple suggests a ‘secure’ password there is no way 
> you’ll remember so you try it. Then it never gets saved in your password! 
> Sometimes I enter a password on a website and in never asks ‘do you want to 
> save that password?’
> 

Check the password tab in safari preferences..it might be there.

However I”ve used iCloud keychain for years without anything like this.

> Is this unusual? It has happened to me several times, I have a password file 
> in my file cabinet but seriously, with 500 plus online logins, it is not up 
> to date. Now with greater security on Google and the like, I guess they are 
> physically reviewing reset requests and it takes days...

90% of my online logins are the same stupid password, because 90% don’t really 
need that kind of security. Something that would let a bad guy get at my money 
or other things of importance have secure ones, but sites that make you log in  
to look at old forum posts? They get the stupid easy password.

I”ve run into some sites that don’t prompt you to save the password; it’s 
something in the way the sites are written. 


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Re: Mail vs. Gmail...?

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I would drop the account, restart the Mac and re-add the account to see if that 
fixes it. I”ve had to do that occasionally with email accounts on people’s 
computers.

On Aug 7, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

OSX version is 10.15.6--is there more we need to know? IMAP is set as account 
access, and I can't find anything about synching spam (or other) folders but 
there was never an issue until a few weeks ago.

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 2:48:06 PM UTC-4, 
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Version of OS X? The way Mail has handled GMail accounts has changed over the 
versions.

Is Gmail set to be accessed as an IMAP account? << wrote:

Hi there: In the past month or so, I've begun having some problems with Mail 
and its interaction with my Gmail account:

  *   When I launch Mail, it brings in the messages from Gmail as usual but 
after I open them or delete them, they don't get marked as opened or deleted in 
the Gmail web interface. If I select the "unread" ones there and mark them as 
read, they switch back to unread the next time I go in. Mail will show them as 
read, but the web interface doesn't. This only applies to messages received on 
or after the 4th of August.
  *   The items in the Spam folder in the web interface don't get brought 
across to Mail at all (with very few exceptions). Not that I care so much about 
my spam collection, but I want to see what's there in case something got 
flagged that shouldn't have.
  *   Some messages, but not all, refuse to display their content when I open 
them in Mail--I just get the header and a blank screen, so I have no idea what 
they contain. Occasionally if I close and reopen them repeatedly the content 
eventually appears, but not very often. They display fine in the web interface, 
just not in Mail.

The web interface issues apply regardless of whether I use Chrome or Safari.

Any ideas will be gratefully received. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Mail vs. Gmail...?

[Bruce Johnson]

Version of OS X? The way Mail has handled GMail accounts has changed over the 
versions.

Is Gmail set to be accessed as an IMAP account? <<mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Hi there: In the past month or so, I've begun having some problems with Mail 
and its interaction with my Gmail account:

  *   When I launch Mail, it brings in the messages from Gmail as usual but 
after I open them or delete them, they don't get marked as opened or deleted in 
the Gmail web interface. If I select the "unread" ones there and mark them as 
read, they switch back to unread the next time I go in. Mail will show them as 
read, but the web interface doesn't. This only applies to messages received on 
or after the 4th of August.
  *   The items in the Spam folder in the web interface don't get brought 
across to Mail at all (with very few exceptions). Not that I care so much about 
my spam collection, but I want to see what's there in case something got 
flagged that shouldn't have.
  *   Some messages, but not all, refuse to display their content when I open 
them in Mail--I just get the header and a blank screen, so I have no idea what 
they contain. Occasionally if I close and reopen them repeatedly the content 
eventually appears, but not very often. They display fine in the web interface, 
just not in Mail.

The web interface issues apply regardless of whether I use Chrome or Safari.

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Re: Catalina vs. iTunes: some questions

[Bruce Johnson]

On Oct 24, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:


I'm pretty sure my Mini is a later 2014 version; I got it from the Apple store 
online (as a refurb) in spring 2015.


Yeah then it probably is. So is mine which I got *new* [sob] from the Apple 
Store in July of 2018.

yes, mere months before the exponentially improved and more capable models were 
released. For grins and giggles I looked up what Apple would give me as a 
trade-in for it: $143.

Now THAT’S Depreciation!  $750 to $143 in three months.

I didn’t really have a choice though, my old one had died, so I was kinda 
stuck. Had I *known* the new ones were coming I’d have figured out how to hold 
off and wait, but you know Apple, they love them some surprises :-/

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Re: Catalina vs. iTunes: some questions

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On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:


  *
Will my classic iPod (the last model they made) still work with Catalina and 
the replacement for iTunes?

No idea, but if it works with iTunes in OS X 10.14, I expect it might. I’d 
definitely do some research first!


I found this info yesterday: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210611 No 
mention of what models are supported.



  *   I back up iTunes (& everything else) to another separate, external 
partitioned HD using Carbon Copy Cloner because I have been under the 
impression that Time Machine can't handle the separate HD for iTunes, though I 
forget why that’s the case

ISTR Time Machine can only back up HFS+ or APD volumes, so if it’s a MS-DOS 
volume it won’t work.

The backup drive isn't MS-DOS so on that score it should be okay. But I have a 
dim memory that because the backup is partitioned (one for the HD, one for the 
iTunes drive) Time Machine wouldn't work...something about having to select the 
"drive" at the time of backup, but again it's been quite a while so I'm not 
sure.

This is older info https://www.baligu.com/pondini/TM/32.html and this is newer 
but is the same instructions, so I”ll bet it works: 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3153995/how-to-make-sure-time-machine-backs-up-external-drives.html

Also if your Mini is a 2012 model it has an additional SATA connector on the 
logic board to support the server configuration Apple sold; you can get this 
from OWC to install a second drive. 
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/DIDIMM11D2/  I did this on my old 2011 
model to make a DIY Fusion drive with a 1TB HDD and a 128GB SSD. Worked great 
until the HDD went south.

Sadly (and infuriatingly), while the pads are present on the logic board in a 
2014 to host a socket for the PCIe SSD’s such as used in Macbook Air’s , the 
socket itself is missing :-( so on a 2014 you’re limited to a single drive.

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Re: Catalina vs. iTunes: some questions

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On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:41 AM, William Spencer 
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Hi there: I have not yet installed Catalina and need to know a couple of things 
first, please:


  *   I currently keep iTunes on a separate, external HD due to the fact that 
there’s not enough room for it on the main HD (capacity 250GB, but iTunes 
currently uses a bit over 500GB)
  *   Will Catalina understand and maintain that separation?

I see no reason why it shouldn’t. This information is stored in the iTunes 
database, presuming you’re running the current pre-Catalina version.

That said, if you’re speaking of the Mac Mini in your sig, it’s only moderately 
difficult to swap in a 1 Tb SSD (currently ~$100) which neatly solves the whole 
space issue.


  *   Will my classic iPod (the last model they made) still work with Catalina 
and the replacement for iTunes?

No idea, but if it works with iTunes in OS X 10.14, I expect it might. I’d 
definitely do some research first!


  *   I back up iTunes (& everything else) to another separate, external 
partitioned HD using Carbon Copy Cloner because I have been under the 
impression that Time Machine can't handle the separate HD for iTunes, though I 
forget why that’s the case

ISTR Time Machine can only back up HFS+ or APD volumes, so if it’s a MS-DOS 
volume it won’t work.


  *   Will that backup strategy continue to work with Catalina, or will Time 
Machine be the way to go? Or will backing up be handled differently now?

I’ve seen no indication that Apple’s abandoning Time Machine any time soon 
(although there have been under-the-hood changes with Catalina ) but external 
drive backups like you’re describing are straight forward Finder disk copies, 
so that’s not going away either.

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Re: CD/Disk Drive needed

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pretty much any USB DVD rw will work. They’re dirt cheap: 
https://www.google.com/search?q=usb+dvdrw&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimuNasg_3bAhXpllQKHZZcC0MQ_AUICigB&biw=1963&bih=1296

Mine at work is a slotloader I scavenged from an old defunct powerbook, put 
into an external USB case I picked up for $10. God for the rare occasions we 
ever use them anymore.

> On Jun 30, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Michael Angell  wrote:
> 
> I am runing Mac OS X 10.13.5 (High Sierra) on a  2015 iMac (m  that has no 
> slots for a CD! Is tis typical for that model,
> 
> or is that the current state of the art? It has several (4?) USB ports on 
> back, so there must be an external drive that can Read and Write, but I don 
> 't know even what to list/look for. Any sugestions or advice would be 
> extremely appreciated.  
> 
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
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Re: symantec

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Symantec has this but I don’t know what version it’s for. 
https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.TECH132120.html

On Jun 29, 2018, at 9:31 AM, R. A. Cantrell 
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Hey Bruce,
  Glad to see you are still around. Running 10.4.11, no disks 
at hand.

All the best,

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On Jun 29, 2018, at 6:40 AM, R. A. Cantrell 
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Listers,
  I have not owned a desktop Mac for some time. I recently acquired an 
iMac G5 1.8 and it has Symantec installed. How can I get rid of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhfPyreR_sE  8-)

Personally I’ve never acquired a used Mac that I didn’t reformat the disk and 
re-install everything right off the bat; that would definitely get rid of it.

What OS is it running? OS X? OS 9?  Symantec version? Do you have an 
installable os disk?

If not, look for an uninstaller with the application, or in OS X in the 
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Re: symantec

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Listers,
  I have not owned a desktop Mac for some time. I recently acquired an 
iMac G5 1.8 and it has Symantec installed. How can I get rid of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhfPyreR_sE  8-)

Personally I’ve never acquired a used Mac that I didn’t reformat the disk and 
re-install everything right off the bat; that would definitely get rid of it.

What OS is it running? OS X? OS 9?  Symantec version? Do you have an 
installable os disk?

If not, look for an uninstaller with the application, or in OS X in the 
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Re: What is the lock port on my imac computer?

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It’s the spot you can attach some sort of security lock: 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht204392 (see all the way at the bottom)

Like this : 
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Re: I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

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> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Lacie Govan  wrote:
> 
> Ok it's running on os x 10.4 tiger and I was able to make it passed the 
> password problem I reset it then it went to a welcome screen and asks a few 
> questions one of the questions is how do I connect to internet well I only 
> have a mobile hotspot and no matter what I select I can't get passed this 
> problem. And so sorry I'm completely stupid when it comes to technology.

You may be able to see the mobile hotspot as a WiFi connection, although some 
of the ones I’ve seen require using some sort of client application. Your 
particular hot spot should have come with directions of some sort.

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Re: Why did I receive the post about a Saudi Billionaire and the US Senate?

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It is trivially easy to forge the visible ‘From’ address on any email; this is, 
after all, why I apparently send myself spam all the time 8-) Email addresses 
are harvestable from all sorts of places (or heck even just synthesized. Back 
when we had a more hands-on approach to managing spam here we would routinely 
see long lists of names with ‘@pharmacy.arizona.edu’ attached, regardless of 
whether or not the accounts referenced actually existed. )

If you have enabled junk filters in your mail client (and/or use any of the 
online email services, who also tend to have effective spam filtering) the next 
most effective anti-spam strategery is: the delete key. delete it and move on. 
I vaguely remember seeing something like this email, to be honest I didn’t even 
really pay attention to what folder it landed in (which would be related to the 
list address per my account rules), just went “Well this is dumb” and hit the 
delete key.

More traffic is usually generated on mailing lists complaining about errant 
spam than the actual spam itself, often by several orders of magnitude.


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I visited the iMac list page ( which Google calls a group )

I do not see anything on there about a Saudi .

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Re: Migration Worked but not Keychain Local Items

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I believe you can import the keychain file from the old iMac:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7875747


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Al Poulin  wrote:
> 
> Using Setup Assistant, I migrated from my old iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) with 
> El Capitan 10.11.6 to a new iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) initially with 
> Sierra and now upgraded to High Sierra 10.13.4.
> 
> 
> 
> All is well except for Keychain. Most Local Items did not transfer. Is this 
> to be expected?
> 
> 
> 
> Is there an easy way to pull my old Local Items keychain? Or must I rebuild 
> the list manually?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

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> On Dec 17, 2017, at 2:08 AM, Colin Yarwood  wrote:
> 
> Once we found VisiCalc we used our Apples as desktops for accounts and 
> investment appraisal as well as Payroll with an Apples Silentype printer.

Heh, the very first Apple II I ever saw in the flesh, so to speak was one a 
friend got from an accountant she knew. The top rows and left hand column with 
the row numbers from VisiCalc were permanently burned into the monitor. 
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Re: Now this is Apple like the good old days!

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Hah, I used to have a monitor like that on my desk. Nothing else, because it 
covered pretty much the whole desk. The cable alone for it cost me something 
like $85 8-X some weird Mac Video to 5 bayonet plugs thing like an elephant’s 
trunk comparatively…

We’ve come a long long way...


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Someone gave me a huge Quadra tower 12 years ago that cost over 10 as specced 
when new around 1992. It was a great boat anchor.
It weighed almost as much as the high end 21 inch CRT that came with it. I gave 
it to another LEMMER who has his own private museum.


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On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Bruce Johnson 
mailto:john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> wrote:
Those lazy, crazy IIFX days of old, when Macs were almost literally worth their 
weight in gold :-P

You have to toss the VESA adapter into your shopping cart to do it, but you can 
once again BTO a single Mac that comes in at more than $10,000

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Now this is Apple like the good old days!

[Bruce Johnson]

Those lazy, crazy IIFX days of old, when Macs were almost literally worth their 
weight in gold :-P

You have to toss the VESA adapter into your shopping cart to do it, but you can 
once again BTO a single Mac that comes in at more than $10,000 

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Re: using tv as monitor disables computer display

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Re: need schooling

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In Finder, select Preferences under the Apple menu.

Make sure ‘Hard disks’ is checked; by default in newer versions of OS X it’s 
unchecked. Now the hard drive will show on the desktop.

Under that is ‘New Finder Windows show:” set it to Macintosh HD (or whatever 
your hard drive is called) or your computer.

This is a good start; I think Apple’s recent trend of hiding the file system is 
unnecessarily confusing.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/31rk5x1hcka59hn/my%20finder%20prefs.png?dl=0

You can also use the ‘Go’ menu in Finder to get to various locations on the 
system.



On Nov 9, 2017, at 5:30 PM, 'edward defonzo' via iMac Group 
mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Bruce:thanks for the comeback.

i've got two iMacs one 5,2 and one 9,1

love em both and when i calm down

i'll carefully learn to ask questions.

when i look in finder i see my photos only

what should be in FINDER?  this is my iMac 9,1

eddie


On Thursday, November 9, 2017 2:12 PM, Bruce Johnson 
mailto:john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> wrote:



On Nov 9, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Al Poulin 
mailto:alfred.pou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Apple Stores quit their own One to One service two years ago.

If you are moving over from a Windows PC, Apple has (or used to have) a 
tutorial on line to help in the transition.

It’s been swallowed up in their ‘New to the Mac’ stuff: 
https://support.apple.com/explore/new-to-mac

Apple stores DO still have ‘Basics’ classes, as well, just not the one-on-one 
stuff.

but the best way of ‘getting schooled’ is ask away here.

Best chance we can help is if you can tell us what Mac model, OS version and 
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Re: need schooling

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On Nov 9, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Al Poulin 
mailto:alfred.pou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Apple Stores quit their own One to One service two years ago.

If you are moving over from a Windows PC, Apple has (or used to have) a 
tutorial on line to help in the transition.

It’s been swallowed up in their ‘New to the Mac’ stuff: 
https://support.apple.com/explore/new-to-mac

Apple stores DO still have ‘Basics’ classes, as well, just not the one-on-one 
stuff.

but the best way of ‘getting schooled’ is ask away here.

Best chance we can help is if you can tell us what Mac model, OS version and 
apps you're talking about, or wht you’re trying to do.

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Re: Extracting audio-only from DVD audio

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Google is your Big Brother Friend :-P

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.macbidouille.com%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D204337%26hl%3DDVD%2BAudio&edit-text=<https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?showtopic=204337&hl=DVD+Audio&edit-text=>

It appears that the file may actually be a classic Mac application because the 
Sourceforge link goes to a .sit.hqx file 8-0

You may be able to extract it with ffmpeg 
http://www.savvyadmin.com/extract-ac3-dolby-digital-with-ffmpeg/

pre-compiled mac versions are available here http://www.ffmpegmac.net and there 
are a couple gui frontends: http://www.iffmpeg.com (looks like it may be 
commercial, or at least shareware) http://datura.sourceforge.net and 
https://www.ffmpegx.com both open source, and possibly this which appears to be 
some sort of AV super toolkit http://www.selur.de

I do know I've used ffmpegx in the past to convert audio and video files from 
one to another.



On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Thank you for the link...but it seems to be in French, and thus not accessible 
to my mono-lingual brain. FYI the recording specifies 5.1 Dolby Digital AC-3 
and DTS Surround Sound, and that it plays on all DVD-Audio and DVD-Video 
players. Am I out of luck?

Thanks! Bill

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:59:51 AM UTC-4, Seth Jones wrote:
DVD-Audio (aka DVD-A) is a high fidelity audio format that competed with SACD.  
Both are pretty much dead audio formats (have been for about 10 years now).  
DVD-A doesn't have video.  It is audio only.  It may be recorded at 24 bits per 
sample at a bit rate as high as 192 khz, though 96 is more common.  DVD-A 
recordings may be in 5.1 surround.  The only way to hear the full quality of 
this recording is to play with a DVD-A player.  You can play these discs in a 
regular DVD player if they have a separate track that plays in the standard DTS 
5.1 format that your movies have.  This forum post may be helpful.  
http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?showtopic=204337&hl=DVD+Audio

On Oct 17, 2017 8:52 PM, "William Spencer" > 
wrote:
Hi there: I have a commercial recording of some music, which was issued as 
DVD-audio rather than CD-audio. There’s video material included, which I guess 
accounts for that. My question is this: I want to export the audio so that I 
can store it in iTunes, but I have no idea how to do so. (DVD Player is the app 
that launches automatically when I insert the disc.) Is there a reasonably 
simple way to do so?

As always, my thanks in advance!

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Re: Merging jpegs...?

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> On Sep 16, 2017, at 3:11 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio  
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> 
> Graphics Converter is $ 40 which is not much. It may be a greeat program. I 
> never used it. Probably because I always thought of it as " just" a file 
> conversion program.

It’s an excellent batch processor, as well as a quite functional editor. One of 
my annual tasks is gathering a motley bunch of kid’s photos for our academic 
summer camp, then running through cropping to 4x3, and exporting at 640c480 for 
our badge making software for their camp badges. GC makes it a pice of cake; 
$40 is dirt cheap for the functionality and Thorsten has been a Mac supporter 
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Re: Malware on my iMac

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> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:13 PM, mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Bruce!  I got the correct version of Malwarebytes and it fixed things 
> right up.  My iMac is fast again.
> 
> You were around on the Umax Group back in the day, right?

Possibly…All these lists have kinda merged together in my memory...


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Re: Malware on my iMac

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On Aug 10, 2017, at 12:32 PM, 
mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I recently got a message supposedlly from my ISP saying I had some bad malware 
and they were quarantining me and would freeze my computer.

This is a scam.

They gave me a number to call to get the problem fixed.  I didn't believe it so 
I contacted Apple and they gave me a link to Malwarebytes.  I ran it on my 
os10.11 drive and it said it cleaned it out.  But I only have 10.11 to enable 
my iPhone to talk to the iTunes on the iMac.  My main software is on my 10.7.5 
drive.  So on my 10.7 drive I get the same message this morning.

If this is popping up when you run a web browser, the issue is in your 
browser’s cache. This is a fake malware scam. Malwarebytse should have been 
able to find the error on the 10.75

I contact Apple and they say I am out of warranty and I will have to pay $180 
to have them fix it.  I asked if there was any software that I could use to 
clean my Mac out and prevent it from happening again.  They said there isn't.  
They also said reformatting the drive would not fix the problem.

That last right there is absolute hogwash.


So- Is there software out there that is good stuff and will enable me to fix 
the problem and help to keep it from happening again?  I have seen various ads 
for this kind of software but I am loath to trust some random company.

Malwarebytes offers a version that workws with 10.7.5 
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/177821-anti-malware-for-mac-os-x-1075/



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Re: Driver locations?

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> On Aug 6, 2017, at 12:50 PM, William Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there: My wife is trying to install a new touch-screen monitor for a very 
> unusual application she uses. The old monitor was just too big for the space 
> available. From what I understand, the new monitor (Planar PT1945R) works 
> fine except for the touchscreen functionality. I was just on the phone with 
> the Planar folks, who said that there are actually two different drivers to 
> install, one from Planar and another from an outfit called UPDD (it seems the 
> Mac is very unfriendly about touch-screen technology…). He also said it would 
> be very useful to remove the driver for the old touch-screen monitor (made by 
> Tyco).
> 
> My question is this: where do I find that old driver? I have never understood 
> how the Mac sets up the libraries with all that stuff in them.
> 
> As always, my thanks in advance!

Under OS X drivers are installed in the /Library/Extensions and 
/System/Library/Extensions folders. 

There may also be startup items associated with the devices in 
/Library/LaunchAgents, /Library/LaunchDaemons, and the corresponding  
/System/Library/LaunchAgents, /System/Library/LaunchDaemons folders.

You can find information about them, by running System Information and clicking 
on ‘Extensions’. It will either be a ‘Not Signed’ or ‘Identified Developer’, 
more than likely.

Start in Safe mode, find the kext files associated with the Tyco drivers move 
them to the trash and restart.

If you can find an ‘Uninstaller’ for the device drivers in the installation 
package, this is the best because that way you can be reasonably sure all the 
bits-n-pieces are removed. 

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Re: Apps and windows behaviour in OSX 10.9 Mavericks

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Bruce Johnson  
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> 
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 11:16 PM, GMail Valter Psicof  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I just upgraded my iMac 24" Early 2009 to OSX 10.9 (from OSX 10.6), and
>> I found a new behaviour I dislike.
>> With 10.9, after boot the Mac opens up both the apps and the windows that I
>> left open at the previous shutdown (if I turn on "Reopen windows when
>> logging back in" in the shutdown dialogue).
>> 
>> Problem is, since I DO want the _windows_ to reopen (I usually left open
>> many of them), but I do NOT want the _apps_ to reopen, I find myself forced
>> to close any app manually before shutdown.
>> 
>> Ideally, I would like a behaviour like it was in 10.6: windows kept open
>> between restart, apps do not.
>> Do you know any way to make it possible in 10.9? Maybe with some Terminal
>> wizardry? :-)
>> 
>> (googling this gave nothing)
> 
> Perhaps an applescript tied to shutdown that closes all apps but Finder?

Also as a heavy user of Spaces, I find leaving anything open to be pretty much 
useless, since all the windows upon logging back in open in the same space. 

I don’t apportion spaces by app, but by project which means app windows are 
scattered among several spaces. I finally gave up and just a) quit shutting 
down or logging off and b) unchecking the box to open things when I log in 
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Re: Apps and windows behaviour in OSX 10.9 Mavericks

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> On Aug 4, 2017, at 11:16 PM, GMail Valter Psicof  
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> Hi, I just upgraded my iMac 24" Early 2009 to OSX 10.9 (from OSX 10.6), and
> I found a new behaviour I dislike.
> With 10.9, after boot the Mac opens up both the apps and the windows that I
> left open at the previous shutdown (if I turn on "Reopen windows when
> logging back in" in the shutdown dialogue).
> 
> Problem is, since I DO want the _windows_ to reopen (I usually left open
> many of them), but I do NOT want the _apps_ to reopen, I find myself forced
> to close any app manually before shutdown.
> 
> Ideally, I would like a behaviour like it was in 10.6: windows kept open
> between restart, apps do not.
> Do you know any way to make it possible in 10.9? Maybe with some Terminal
> wizardry? :-)
> 
> (googling this gave nothing)

Perhaps an applescript tied to shutdown that closes all apps but Finder?

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Re: early 2009 iMac dead after using patcher tool to install Sierra

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On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:49 AM, GMail Valter Psicof 
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Il giorno 17/07/17 20:28, 
"mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.ansberry1...@gmail.com>" ha scritto:

I tried to use the patcher to install Sierra on my early 2009 iMac running
10.7.5.
I  know it's not my business, but... why "forcing" an OS over a machine
that's *eight* years older than the OS? I think that OS wouldn't run well
anyway.

Because that iMac was just under the cutoff for that version of the OS (late 
2009 imacs made the cut, and there really isn’t much difference hardware-wise 
between the two). It runs Yosemite just fine; so it’s not a huge stretch to 
try, and this has been widely published:

<http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-install-macos-sierra-on-older-mac-3654960/>
the tool itself:

<http://dosdude1.com/sierrapatch.html>

Also detailed instructions are there, such as what to do if you get a “NO” 
symbol after installing…

Follow the directions carefully, folks, when handling digital power tools!


It won't boot using any of the short cuts to make it select another drive.

This is more troubling, because even if the internal disk is fubar this should 
still work.

All I can suggest is try resetting the PRAM (boot while holding down 
command-option-P-R for a couple boot chime cycles) and seeing if that works to 
allow booting from an external volume.


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Re: Early 2009 iMac with Sierra (unsupported)-Brightness won't work

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On Jul 13, 2017, at 11:13 AM, fishjoy...@gmail.com<mailto:fishjoy...@gmail.com> 
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Hi,
After reading your response, I went back to look for some of the solutions.
Here is one posting that I found"
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/fixing-brightness-with-custom-edid.219413/

However, after rereading it, it appears that this is for laptops, and not the 
iMac 91. Sorry for not reading more carefully.
So, perhaps there is no known fix for the iMac 9,1 and Sierra at this 
time--unless someone out there knows of one.
Thanks,

Ah yes, building Hacks like this requires delving into some pretty arcane 
hardware driver stuff.

One (kinda remote) possibility is look into using Automator to make a script to 
raise the brightness on login? The app you have may be controllable via 
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Re: Early 2009 iMac with Sierra (unsupported)-Brightness won't work

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Late-2009 or later. Early-2009 is just on the wrong side of  the cutoff: 
http://osxdaily.com/2016/06/14/macos-sierra-compatibility-list/


On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Russell Courtenay 
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I thought that the 2009 iMacs were Sierra compatible, why would they NOT be?!?

Russell Courtenay
July is national what month?
tinyurl.com/julybeans<http://tinyurl.com/julybeans>

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Re: Early 2009 iMac with Sierra (unsupported)-Brightness won't work

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>From further reading, it sounds like there may be another solution that may 
>require a higher technical proficiency than I have. However, I am hoping that 
>someone can explain the solution so that I can follow it and implement it. Or 
>perhaps someone can point me to a place that clearly explains how to fix this.

If you could provide a link to this solution rather than just implying it 
exists, those of us who are technically proficient may be able to help :-)

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Re: FaceTime/iSight question(s)

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> On Apr 22, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there: I am just now beginning to experiment with using FaceTime with the 
> machine below; I bought a second-hand iSight camera not long ago to use with 
> it, but am baffled by some things. So I'm sorry to ask what may well be 
> obvious questions, but...well, here goes.

I found a bunch of references like this googling the issue, but all of them 
said the symptom is a black screen, not a clearly working camera :-/ but it’s 
worth a shot:

http://osxdaily.com/2013/12/27/fix-there-is-no-connected-camera-error-mac/

Does the camera work in other apps like Photo Booth?

I did find  bunch of reports regarding Facetime not working with the original 
iSight under OS X Sierra.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7677858?start=0&tstart=0

If the issue turns out that it’s because of this bug, any UVC "USB Video Class” 
USB camera will work with OSX out of the box. You may get others to work via 
macam http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net.

UVC webcams are readily available and cheap online. Kind of sucks because the 
iSight is such a gorgeous piece of over-engineering :-)

<https://www.ebay.com/p/?iid=112318365093&lpid=82&&&ul_noapp=true&chn=ps>

The MS LifeCams are pretty nice, we have been recommending them for folks here 
wth PC’s for videoconferencing.



>   • I'm apparently supposed to enter my Apple ID and password in order to 
> activate FT but I cannot for the life of me find where to do so.

When I started facetime on my computer just now, it prompted me to log in right 
in the FT screen. Maybe trash FT prefs?

>   • Are there network configurations I need to set to use FT? I don't see 
> any but maybe that's part of the issue.

Nothing other than a working one.

>   • Am I right in remembering that the camera has a built-in microphone?

Yes it does.

>   • My parents' iPad is what I tried calling; I heard the dialing/ringing 
> sound but they show no indication that I tried contact them. I assume that 
> will change once I get the above resolved...?
> 

My wife and I have had issues like that in the past, solved by having the other 
party call back. We’ve had it happen in both directions.

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Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 3 updates in 1 topic

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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:39 AM, Colin P D Yarwood  
> wrote:
> 
> Why not start holding down Ctrl+R
> 
> This should start you on a web based system and enable you to use Disk 
> Utility from the web unless your Resident OS is very old? Then you can 
> install a new version of your OS from the web and all will be well if your 
> had isn't damaged.
> 

I don’t believe that was available until OS 10.7; this is a G4 iMac; the latest 
OS it can run is 10.5.

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Re: imac 17 inch flat panel spin and freeze spinning will not start please help

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> On Apr 8, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Johnson  
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> 
> If that doesn’t work, press the Command-V keys immediately to see the verbose 
> boot screen

“press the command-V key immediately while starting up”…I meant. Sorry for the 
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Re: imac 17 inch flat panel spin and freeze spinning will not start please help

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> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Bernard Bailey  wrote:
> 
> Hello I have a imac 17 inch flat panel qt3051nwnhx just spin will not start 
> what can I do to get it to start properly, and thank you.
> 

So all you have is the gray Apple icon and a spinning gear? What version of OS 
X? Will it boot from an OS X installer disk? 

If it does, run Disk Utility to check the hard drive, if it doesn’t boot from 
the installer disk, disconnect everything connected to it (including 
mouse&keyboard) and try. You may have a flaky USB device causing an issue.

If that works, plug in the keyboard and  hold down the shift key while it 
starts, to boot into safe mode. If that works you know the computer is probably 
ok, and i was something that was plugged in, or a some program or device driver 
that was just installed or updated.

If that doesn’t work, press the Command-V keys immediately to see the verbose 
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Re: Touch-screen monitor question

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On Apr 5, 2017, at 7:57 AM, Dan Cottler 
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On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

What choices are there for a 19" 5:4 (or could be 4:3...) touchscreen monitor?

*blink* Touchscreen *blink blink* for a Mac

I thought there was no support for that in macOS.!?

How exactly does that work?

The interface emulates a mouse, or graphics pad. Same principle as Wacom’s 
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Re: Touch-screen monitor question

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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Man, I looked and looked on their site and got nothing. What's your magic 
> formula, anyway?

My google-fu was strong yesterday. click on the ‘shopping’ link when you do a 
search. It works really well…too well. Now every website I go to for a couple 
weeks is going to have ads offering to sell me 19” touchscreen monitors 8-)

> This should do the trick perfectly. Thanks! Bill

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Re: Touch-screen monitor question

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Yeah, I suspect so. 16:9 is pretty much the standard aspect ratio for screens 
these days; but I did find one at Monoprice that was cheaper. It looks like 
what you’re looking for. Monoprice is a good supplier, we’ve gotten a lot of 
stuff from them.

https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=15483&gclid=CP6q-OjjgdMCFc9hfgodIncNUQ

They used to be just cables and such but they’ve grown tremendously, everything 
from guitars to 3D printers now...


On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Thanks, Bruce, as always! Unfortunately, my wife does not want a wide screen; 
she wants a 19" at either 4:3 or 5:4. I think this stems from the amount of 
linear space available in the very unusual spot where the monitor will live. 
This seems to limit the choices a good deal from what I can gather. Based on 
that Newegg search it seems that +/- $500 is the lowest price we'll find...? 
Bill

On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 2:12:08 PM UTC-4, 
joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu<http://pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:
Also, looking for 17-20” models brought up a whole bunch at around $500…I think 
the pricing difference is that those seem to be geared towards 
commercial/industrial use, whereas the cheaper ones are geared towards home 
use; not as rugged.

But if your use case is not severe one of those 21” $199 ones would work, I’ll 
bet.


On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Bruce Johnson 
> wrote:

Newegg has a bunch of them:

<https://www.newegg.com/Touch-Screen-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-514>

Most are 16:9 aspect ratio, though...



On Mar 31, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Bill Spencer > wrote:

Hi there: What choices are there for a 19" 5:4 (or could be 4:3...) touchscreen 
monitor? Is there anything below around $500? That's all I can find but I may 
well be looking in the wrong places or the wrong ways. As always, my thanks in 
advance!

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Re: Touch-screen monitor question

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Also, looking for 17-20” models brought up a whole bunch at around $500…I think 
the pricing difference is that those seem to be geared towards 
commercial/industrial use, whereas the cheaper ones are geared towards home 
use; not as rugged.

But if your use case is not severe one of those 21” $199 ones would work, I’ll 
bet.


On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Bruce Johnson 
mailto:john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> wrote:

Newegg has a bunch of them:

<https://www.newegg.com/Touch-Screen-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-514>

Most are 16:9 aspect ratio, though...



On Mar 31, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Hi there: What choices are there for a 19" 5:4 (or could be 4:3...) touchscreen 
monitor? Is there anything below around $500? That's all I can find but I may 
well be looking in the wrong places or the wrong ways. As always, my thanks in 
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Re: Touch-screen monitor question

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Newegg has a bunch of them:

<https://www.newegg.com/Touch-Screen-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-514>

Most are 16:9 aspect ratio, though...



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Hi there: What choices are there for a 19" 5:4 (or could be 4:3...) touchscreen 
monitor? Is there anything below around $500? That's all I can find but I may 
well be looking in the wrong places or the wrong ways. As always, my thanks in 
advance!

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Re: USB Digital Video Converter

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On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Russell Courtenay 
mailto:unknownid...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have been wanting one of these for years to play around with but hesitated to 
pay $70 for the El Gato device so I plunked down a whole $7 for a generic 
version off of eBay.

The auction said 'Mac' in the title but I didn't believe that as it showed a 3" 
cd, which I KNOW won't work on any Mac, but I figured I'd try it anyway, most 
of the software is built into modern operating systems I suppose...

So I couldn't resist and popped it open to reveal some very generic looking 
chips…

\Plug it into your Mac, then open System Information, go to the USB section and 
see if it says the product and vendor id is:

Kensington Slimblade Trackball:

  Product ID: 0x2041
  Vendor ID: 0x047d  (Kensington)
  Version: 1.07
  Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Kensington
  Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 12
  Current Available (mA): 500
  Current Required (mA): 100
  Extra Operating Current (mA): 0


Googling that will often lead you to the OEM and suitable downloadable drivers. 
WIthout the driver it won’t properly show all the details or work, but it’s 
often enough info to hunt down the drivers, or at least the OEM. if mac drivers 
exist…

But, as Michael Shaw says any non-slot loading optical drive will also work 
with those 3” cd’s.




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Re: Forgot Keychain password

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Julia Brinckloe  wrote:
> 
> http://tidbits.com/article/14437
> 
> Scroll down to keychain password. Hope it helps. 

Just a tip: if you do have to go the Single User route, the instructions there 
are incomplete:

• Reboot into Single User mode by restarting the Mac and holding 
Command-S while the system comes back up. Numerous lines of status messages 
will scroll by.

• Once you have a command-line prompt, enter this command to mount the 
root Mac OS X drive as writable, so you can make changes to the filesystem:

mount -uw /

You really want to do a ‘fsck  -fy' command first. Fortunately OS X tells you 
that when you boot into single user mode. 

<http://www.everythingmacintosh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/single_user_mode_fschk.gif>

I repeat the fsck command until it reports that no changes were made to the 
file system before I mount the volume for read/write access. 99.999% of the 
time this means running it only once or twice. If it comes up reporting errors 
on the second run, there’s likely something wrong with the disk.

Navigating single user mode is a useful tool; you can use it to ‘break into’ a 
Mac you don’t have a password for, just do the above, then delete the file 
/var/db/.AppleSetupDone and reboot. The Mac now thinks that it’s never been set 
up and walks you through creating an admin account. All the other users, 
applications, setup, etc are retained. 

I do this with new laptops where I work: I set up the mac with our standard IT 
support local account, install all the required apps, printers, VPN, etc, then 
delete that file and hand it to the end user. They can set up the account name 
they want and password, so we never have to write those down ;-) 

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Re: Forgot Keychain password

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Fred Thiel  wrote:
> 
> My iMac running SnowLeopard 10.6 asked me for my Keychain password. The 
> menulet isn't even showing up in the menu bar anymore. I tried every 
> combination of every password I could think of, but none worked. I need to 
> know how I can reset the password without knowing the password.
> any help will be greatly appreciated.
> 

Unless you set it specifically to be different, the Keychain password is your 
login password; To reset your keychain password you use Keychain Access in your 
Utilities folder. 

(note this is in 10.12, your choices may be different in 10.6!) There used to 
be a keychain repair function, as I recall, you can try that.

In my version of Keychain Access You can right click on the ‘login’ keychain 
and select ‘delete’ This deletes the existing ‘login’ keychain, along with any 
saved passwords, alas, but the whole point of the keychain is to make getting 
at your saved passwords hard.

In my version of Keychain Access there’s an option in the Keychain Access 
preferences to reset the default keychain. This gives you a new one, but does 
not delete the old one, so if at some point you do recall the old password, you 
can retrieve the saved items in it.

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Re: Replacement For Bias Peak?

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> On Feb 20, 2017, at 2:01 PM, dave  wrote:
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> Hi All,
> 
> I just had to junk my old iMac. I got a newer iMac running Yosemite. But I 
> now find that my old, trusty audio editing software, (Bias Peak now 
> discontinued) doesn't seem to want to work anymore. Does anyone know that 
> Peak program? And, is there anything out there that'll match Peak 
> capabilities. (I know about Audacity, but the clean interface and some 
> capabilities of Peak don't quite match.
> 
> Anything else around anyone knows about? Thanks.

Rogue Amoeba’s Fission is one <https://www.rogueamoeba.com/fission/> . No 
experience using it, though other RA apps I’ve used in the past are great ‘it 
just works’ programs...

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Re: iTunes won't burn a playlist in order

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> On Feb 18, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
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> Hi there: Whenever I try to burn a playlist to CD via iTunes (12.5.5.5), it 
> insists on burning the tracks in the reverse order from what I want. I am 
> tired of wasting all those discs. How do I get it to burn in the right order? 
> As always, my thanks in advance!

Here’s a possible solution 
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2532221?start=0&tstart=0> (I vaguely 
remembered doing this to fix one of mine, back in the day when I still burned 
CD’s…)

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Re: Mysterious Question Mark (?) Appears Sometimes

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It’s a broken link to a folder or volume :

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5089194?start=0&tstart=0

On Feb 10, 2017, at 11:00 AM, dave 
mailto:david3...@verizon.net>> wrote:


For the last couple of weeks I've started to notice that, when I open certain 
files, that a question mark appears in the banner that runs across the top of 
the window. Other than appearing in those spots, it doesn't seem to do anything.

What causes this? Is it anything to worry about? And, how do I get rid of it?  
Thanks.

Dave

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Re: CD won't import

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I’ve got no idea how to test one, I’ve got an optical drive cleaner around (you 
can get one just about anywhere: Target, WallyWorld, Best buy, Office Depot or 
Staples, Walgreens, Biglots, even.)


I suspect picking up a new external one is probably a good idea, though, since 
you use it a fair bit. These are cheap and readily available: 
<http://www.bestbuy.com/site/verbatim-slimline-double-layer-8x-external-usb-dvdrw-cd-rw-drive/5403300.p?skuId=5403300&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=7ede505a-5977-4469-9b34-a1d6448918aa&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg228160&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2>

Just a random example from Google. These have the great advantage that you 
don’t have to disassemble your iMac to fix it, and you can use them on 
computers that don’t have optical drives too. 

I have one at work that I use even though my iMac’s drive is fine, because I’ve 
got a second monitor up where the disc goes in and out, and it’s been useful 
numerous times for it’s portability.

> On Feb 5, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Yes it was. How would I check it, please?
> 
> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 12:06:49 PM UTC-5, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu 
> wrote:
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> > On Feb 4, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote: 
> > 
> > Doesn't play in iTunes. But I put it in my wife's older iMac and it 
> > imported into her iTunes fine (if slowly) so I just copied the files across 
> > and I guess I'm okay. Should probably burn a new disc just on principle. 
> > Thanks! 
> 
> Was this on the same machine you had that DVD error on? Might be a failing or 
> dirty optical drive in the Mac. 
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Re: CD won't import

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> On Feb 4, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
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> Doesn't play in iTunes. But I put it in my wife's older iMac and it imported 
> into her iTunes fine (if slowly) so I just copied the files across and I 
> guess I'm okay. Should probably burn a new disc just on principle. Thanks!

Was this on the same machine you had that DVD error on? Might be a failing or 
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Re: CD won't import

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> On Feb 4, 2017, at 6:39 AM, William Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there: I recently bought a used CD that plays fine in the car and through 
> the stereo, but when I try to import it into iTunes, the import always fails 
> about 80% of the way through. Any thoughts on why, and how to fix the 
> problem? Thanks! 

I'm not sure, I’ve run across a couple CD’s like that; some error in the 
encoding or disk damage that the players skip over but iTunes can’t. I've got a 
couple others where the imported songs skip between tracks and back during 
playback. 

Does it play in iTunes? Maybe try importing it first via Audacity thence into 
iTunes? Make a disk image of it and see if THAT imports?

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Re: Error 36 while copying a file

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Then copy it to a USB thumb drive on the Windows system then transfer to the 
Mac. It may be a wonky dvd, and the drive in the Windows laptop is more 
forgiving of data errors than the Macs. If you have a Big lots nearby they 
routinely have 8 and 16GB thumb drives for sale for cheap. I have a bunch 
laying around that I turn onto OS X installers so I can quickly boot from one 
to fix, reformat or update a Mac here at work.


On Jan 27, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

P.S.: It plays fine on my Windows laptop at the office...

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 9:45:30 AM UTC-5, Bill Spencer wrote:
Hi there: I got two DVDs last night from a friend, which include three videos 
recorded last month. Two files on one DVD and one on the other. The disc with 
two files copied across fine. The disc with one file kept failing with an error 
36 message. (I assume my source is a Windows user but am not certain.) My quick 
search brought up these two pages among many others:

https://www.macissues.com/2015/05/25/what-to-do-about-error-36-and-other-io-errors-in-os-x/

http://osxdaily.com/2015/02/21/fix-error-code-36-finder-mac-os-x/

Are these two pages on the right track? Is there some other method I can use to 
copy the file to my Mac for editing, one that avoids this error? This is a very 
time-sensitive project--it must be complete by Tuesday of next week at the very 
latest--and I will be very grateful for any thoughts or suggestions on this 
point. Thanks!

Bill Spencer in Maryland
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Re: MediaHuman Audio Converter?

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On Jan 5, 2017, at 1:19 PM, William Spencer 
mailto:wspence...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi there: Does anyone here know anything about this freeware? I need to convert 
FLAC audio images that include a cue sheet to Apple Lossless for storage in 
iTunes. Thanks in advance, as always!


Dunno about that program, but Audacity can do this. I know it imports FLAC.

<http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_exporting_to_itunes.html>

ffmpeg is a simple install on the Mac; they have an OS X installer : 
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Re: Working G3 iMac?

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On Jan 4, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Clark Martin 
mailto:cm...@sonic.net>> wrote:


I feel like the Data Security Dalek: "DE-MAGNETIZE! DE-MAGNETIZE!” 8-)

Just be thankful the policy isn’t to do a DOD wipe procedure.  Could be a 
little difficult trying to find an 8” drive… or computer to use it.

Given the amounts of iron oxide flakes that peeled away as I was shredding 
them, I expect that process would have lasted for two, maybe three disks before 
the drive was unusable.

I'm pretty sure, though, that shoving them three at a time through a 
diamond-cut shredder left no real chance of recovering decades-old NMR studies 
or Xerox Star docs (we had two of them in the College when I got here in ’91. 
Amazing machines. )

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Re: Working G3 iMac?

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On Jan 4, 2017, at 12:33 PM, charles lenington 
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I have 10+  iMacs that were taken from service by drilling through bottom of 
case killing hard & cd/dvd drives. I'll have to check for model id.


The hard drives I can see, but what did those poor CD drives ever do to 
anyone?? :-)

(sez the guy currently degaussing about 150 3.5” floppy disks and spent a 
couple of hours running some 8” (!) disks through our shredder a while 
back…someone discovered a couple boxes of old data disks in storage and 
university policy is "Destroy all data!”

I feel like the Data Security Dalek: "DE-MAGNETIZE! DE-MAGNETIZE!” 8-)

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Re: Working G3 iMac?

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On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Bruce Johnson 
mailto:john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> wrote:


On Jan 4, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Zeke Ulrey 
mailto:sansuig900...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm two hours south of Spokane, WA.  Anyone know of a functioning 500Mhz or 
higher G3 iMac, anywhere?  (Every time the CRT goes out in mine I pull the guts 
and put it in another.  I've done this three times since 1999.)

Finally, for the first time, I'm having difficulty locating a donor.  All I 
really do is download music and play iTunes with it but these machines are 
perfect for that, humming along unobtrusively…

Find a 15” lcd VGA monitor and swap it out for the CRT. Should fit without too 
much modification (although you will likely need to disassemble it) and connect 
to the internal VGA port.

Here’s some info : 
<http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/imac-g3-from-crt-to-lcd.1914390/>

That would be a one-of-a-kind project!

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Re: Working G3 iMac?

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> On Jan 4, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Zeke Ulrey  wrote:
> 
> I'm two hours south of Spokane, WA.  Anyone know of a functioning 500Mhz or 
> higher G3 iMac, anywhere?  (Every time the CRT goes out in mine I pull the 
> guts and put it in another.  I've done this three times since 1999.)
> 
> Finally, for the first time, I'm having difficulty locating a donor.  All I 
> really do is download music and play iTunes with it but these machines are 
> perfect for that, humming along unobtrusively…

Find a 15” lcd VGA monitor and swap it out for the CRT. Should fit without too 
much modification (although you will likely need to disassemble it) and connect 
to the internal VGA port.


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Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

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The url broke in the email. ‘tup.dmg’ was left off the end

404 is ‘url not found’


here’s the reconstructed url:

<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45977818/Software/Opera_25.0.1614.71_Setup.dmg>

just tested this one...


On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:51 AM, David Checkman 
mailto:david3...@verizon.net>> wrote:

Valter,

All that happens when I click the link you provide is to get an error message 
(#404 whatever that is).

Dave

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dave mailto:david3...@verizon.net>>: Dec 08 08:31AM -0800

Anybody posting a reply for getting Opera don't bother posting a link if
it's like this: "oldapp ... " As some others have said it might screw
up you computer. I'm still left wondering where a legitimate download link
can be found that'll work on Snow Leopard. The link aeyoan suggested just
brought an error message: "Alert 550 Failed to change directory."

Dave

GMail Valter Psicof mailto:valter.psi...@gmail.com>>: 
Dec 09 12:26AM +0100

Il giorno 08/12/16 17.31, "dave" ha scritto:

> I'm still left wondering where a legitimate download link
> can be found that'll work on Snow Leopard. The link aeyoan suggested just
> brought an error message: "Alert 550 Failed to change directory."

I got that error when trying to download an FTP link; you might have better
luck using an FTP client.

Anyway, since I happen to have the installer DMG file, I uploaded it to my
Dropbox account.
It's Opera 25.0.1614.71, the latest version for OSX 10.6 (AFAIK):
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45977818/Software/Opera_25.0.1614.71_Se
tup.dmg>

HTH,
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Re: Running Snow Leopard Server

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Not as far as I know. Apple specifically allowed virtualization of SL Server, 
provided it was running on an OS X host, so all three VM programs will prevent 
you from installing the client SL.

That said, the major differences between Server and Client were the additional 
GUI server tools for  managing the various services and the removal of the 
simultaneous AFS connection limit in client.

Aside from not being able to provide more than 10 simultaneous AFS file service 
connections, client can run any server service that Server can, you just have 
to use traditional Unix command-line tools to manage and configure them.

This 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Server#Mac_OS_X_Server_10.6_.28Snow_Leopard_Server.29>
 
lists the underlying services, in the ‘Technial Specs’ section of what OSS 
tools are used for services in OS X Server.

> On Dec 3, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Al Poulin  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Bruce,
> 
> And could I install the client SL to run my legacy FMP instead of using the 
> SL server?
> 
> Thanks
> Al Poulin
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Bruce Johnson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Al Poulin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A couple questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have an iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) which runs Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 on 
>>> one partition and El Capitan OS X 10. 11.6 on another partition.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a shrink-wrapped Mac OS X Server V10.6.3  Rev 1.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can I install the Snow Leopard server on the El Capitan partition so that I 
>>> can launch and use my legacy version FileMaker Pro 8.0v3? This FMP will not 
>>> launch in El Capitan.
>>> 
>>> 
>> VirtualBox, Parallels And VMWare Fusion will let you install SL Server in a 
>> VM under El Capitan. 
>> 
>> <https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-OS-X-Snow-Leopard-on-a-virtual-machine-thats-running-on-a-MacBook-Pro>
>> 
>> Here’s directions for VMWare 
>> <http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/MacOSX_10_6.html>
>> 
>> Here’s info for VirtualBox <https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes>
>> 
>> This is probably the best way to go. VB is a robust VM system, and it’s free.
>> 
>>> Next year, I will buy a new iMac. I believe I cannot install the client 
>>> Snow Leopard on it. Will I be able to install the Snow Leopard server?
>>> 
>> 
>> You’re correct you cannot install Snow Leopard on it; nor can you install SL 
>> Server on it, directly.
>> 
>> You will be able to install SL Server in VB, Parallels or VMWare Fusion VM's
>> 
>> 
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Re: Running Snow Leopard Server

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On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Al Poulin 
mailto:alfred.pou...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello,


A couple questions.


I have an iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) which runs Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 on one 
partition and El Capitan OS X 10. 11.6 on another partition.


I have a shrink-wrapped Mac OS X Server V10.6.3  Rev 1.


Can I install the Snow Leopard server on the El Capitan partition so that I can 
launch and use my legacy version FileMaker Pro 8.0v3? This FMP will not launch 
in El Capitan.

VirtualBox, Parallels And VMWare Fusion will let you install SL Server in a VM 
under El Capitan.

<https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-OS-X-Snow-Leopard-on-a-virtual-machine-thats-running-on-a-MacBook-Pro>

Here’s directions for VMWare 
<http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/MacOSX_10_6.html>

Here’s info for VirtualBox <https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes>

This is probably the best way to go. VB is a robust VM system, and it’s free.


Next year, I will buy a new iMac. I believe I cannot install the client Snow 
Leopard on it. Will I be able to install the Snow Leopard server?

You’re correct you cannot install Snow Leopard on it; nor can you install SL 
Server on it, directly.

You will be able to install SL Server in VB, Parallels or VMWare Fusion VM's



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Re: Macs and viruses

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On Nov 18, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Russell Courtenay 
mailto:unknownid...@gmail.com>> wrote:


This modern ransomware threat is scary, I have a separate, removable external 
hard drive for weekly backup for this reason on the PC server, just wish I 
could get Windows to recognize the mirrored raid on the main drive!


Yep we’ve gotten bitten by ransomware here, our main file server was hit; 
fortunately the user account  involved only had access to one workgroup 
directory. It was a big one though and they were impacted pretty heavily for 
the nearly 12 hours it took us to restore from tape.

It was educational for them; and prompted a few questions like:

"What would happen if this happened to my home computer?”
“You would have to pay the ransom, or just restore your latest backup. You DO 
have a latest backup don’t you?”
“Oooohh”

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Re: Macs and viruses

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On Nov 18, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Hi there: My wife has lately been getting spam emails, allegedly from her email 
provider, which include links to click to resolve "problems"--you know the 
drill. She has not taken the bait, but when I contacted the provider on her 
behalf to triple-check that her account is still in the clear, I got quite a 
lengthy sales pitch for all sorts of Mac-related anti-virus and security stuff 
that they want us to buy. I have never really worried about that sort of thing 
in the past, but times do change and I thought I would see what the received 
wisdom is nowadays about the need for such programs...and if there is a need, 
what to install. She's on 10.10.5 and I'm on 10.11.something.

So long as her system is set to update automatically, Apple routinely pushes 
out new definitions for their built-in anti-malware stuff so there’s that 
protection first off.

The overwhelmingly vast majority of malware out there still targets Windows 
(and increasingly Android) so a security suite for OS X is, in my professional 
opinion, largely unnecessary. If you want a more detailed analysis mention what 
they’re offering. (If it says Intego or Norton’s anywhere in the name it’s 
garbage, IMO)

If you want to pay for a decent one, ClamXAV is inobtrusive, low on resource 
use and flexible.

<http://www.clamxav.com> It used to be shareware now it’s commercial, $30 for 
any computer you own. ($21 if either of you are associated with an EDU 
institution)

My University provides us with Sophos Antivirus, which is also not half-bad, 
but requires an annual subscription.

As our UA policy (especially in a college that routinely deals with 
HIPAA-protected data) requires that all computers, regardless of OS run some 
sort of antivirus, I’ve gotten ClamXAv, mainly because it lets me manually scan 
any mounted volume or folder, whereas Sophos only protects the boot volume. 
Since I have to routinely mount ‘foreign' disks this is useful.

But any antivirus or antimalware software is necessarily reactive; they only 
protect against threats they know of, and most of the current threats aren’t 
viruses, but ransomware, keyloggers to steal banking credentials,  and ‘fake 
antivirus’ offers.

Apple’s taken some big strides ‘under the hood’ in 10.11 and 10.12 in locking 
down and protecting the system to guard against this kind of thing, too, as a 
proactive step…even root doesn’t have access to some parts of the OS without 
special authentication being provided, but your userland files are susceptible 
to ransomware encryption. Fortunately none of the known variants are currently 
able to encrypt Time Machine volumes, so it’s not a major deal for Mac users if 
you’re backing up your stuff.

Vigilance against the phishing (and they’re ALWAYS phishing emails, no matter 
how official they sound), and keeping good backups are, in the end, better than 
any anti-malware solution, and it sounds like your wife is well versed in the 
‘delete key’ method of dealing with them :-)

Backing up your stuff is important, because drive failure, computer failure, 
damage or theft is much more likely than a malware infection.

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Re: How to keep the thing from going to sleep

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If setting ‘Computer Sleep’ to ‘Never’ in the Energy Saver prefs doesn’t work 
you probably need to reset the power manager 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295 and reset the PRAM/NVRAM 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204063



On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bill Spencer 
mailto:wspen...@jhu.edu>> wrote:

Hi there: I was using Audacity to digitize a couple of LPs over the weekend, 
and discovered the hard way that when the Mini goes to sleep Audacity stops 
capturing the signal. I went into system prefs and told the display not to 
sleep, and told the energy saver to stay awake, but neither change worked...I 
still had to jiggle the mouse from time to time to be sure it all went 
correctly. What was I missing? I (obviously) don't really want to have to 
babysit the system like that in the future when doing this. As always, my 
thanks in advance!

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Re: Printer recommendations?

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Russell Courtenay  wrote:
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> I'll keep that in mind. We are looking for an AirPrint compatible wifi 
> printer for our iPhones but would like to use it with whatever Macs we are 
> running too….

I picked up an Epson WF-3640 at Costco for like $135 on sale that I've been 
quite pleased with. Wireless, scanner/copier (with multi-sheet feeder) two 
paper trays, handles up to legal size paper in the tray, AirPrint etc. 

I’ve also had good luck with recent HP multi-function inkjets but they’ve 
started playing DRM games with their cartridges, locking out refilled carts.

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Re: iMac 24" Early 2009 - Power consumption info

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 5:28 PM, N. Shani  wrote:
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> One explanation as to why Windows will show a much higher power consumption 
> may be related to the fact that it is emulated?

BootCamp is not emulated: it’s running windows natively on the Mac hardware; 
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Re: Can't import a CD to iTunes

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> On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there: Every once in a while my little Samsung CD drive won't be able to 
> read a disc for import into iTunes. When it does happen (not very often), if 
> I unplug its USB connector from the Mini and then reinsert it, all's well, 
> but now I've got a disc where even that doesn't work. Any ideas on why, or on 
> how to resolve this? As always, my thanks in advance!

I’ve run across a couple audio CDs that just won’t read properly from a CD-R/RW 
drive. At the time I had a weird portable CD player that had a USB port to 
allow you to use it as a CD-ROM drive and it worked.

Do the CD’s play in a normal CD player? Maybe it’s a damaged disk.

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Re: Printer recommendations?

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Honestly, from my experience with brother laser printers, it might be worth 
coughing up for a new drum.

The ones we’ve had here have been amazingly reliable.

On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:28 PM, William Spencer 
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Hi there: Our Brother wireless all-in-one is giving us a message that its drum 
needs to be replaced. The cost of doing so appears to be about the same as that 
of buying a new printer. So I’m wondering what anyone might recommend for a 
basic laser all-in-one with wireless connectivity. Brother and Canon seem to 
come up frequently but I’m glad to get other opinions. The top price would be 
$150, less is always better. Thanks!

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Re: To Upgrade or Not to Upgrade

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On Sep 26, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Julia Brinckloe 
mailto:jmbri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Wow, big thanks for the extensive response. And appreciate reminder of the 
security issue--which Mac users didn't have prior to the whole intel 
partnership. At least it seemed Mac code was better written.


Ehhh, it more of a ‘a lot more people are using them’ kind of thing, the Mac 
user base is big enough to attract attention, and the bad guys are becoming a 
teensy bit less Windows centric; still 99.9% of all the exploits are for 
Windows machines.

FYI my main system is the Mac mini and a Dell PC sharing a monitor, mouse and 
tablet on a switch. They share peripherals via a home network. I like your 
solution--to clone Mavericks on an external drive and upgrade the main drive. 
I'd partition my main drive but at 500GB it's not so big these days. (My first 
computer was an IBM Headstart PC with no hard drive at all--everything stored 
on floppies. And my first Mac had a 20 MB HD and 8 or 16 MB RAM. Technology 
flies..)


Mine was an Apple ][+ with two floppies…good ol’ days!  Even my first Mac (a 
Plus) only had two floppy drives to start. I remember the day I went to  the 
local computer store’s clearance event and picked up a staggeringly huge 30mb 
SCSI HDD. I would NEVER run out of space with THAT huge thing! ROFL. Now I 
carry around a ‘tiny’ 2GB USB thumb drive around in my pocket...

I'm wondering if I have to install Yosemite before upgrading to El Capitan. But 
I'm sure Apple has an FAQ on that.

No you do not. You can update directly from OS’es as old as 10.6.8. You WILL 
need to find a copy of El Capitan somewhere, because the only one available 
from Apple now is Sierra. Apple only ever offers a single version at a time. 
Your Mac WILL run macOS Sierra, though, and based on short experience on my 
test machine, it’s about the same size/speed/disk footprint..


I confess I'm most reluctant to part with Mavericks because I live ten minutes 
away from the real thing, and seeing it on my desktop, I'm home.



The Mavericks Waves pictures are still part of the built-in desktop pics in 
Sierra…


Thanks again. You know your stuff.
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Re: To Upgrade or Not to Upgrade

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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:37 AM, 'douglasjar' via iMac Group 
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> Open for suggestions, 
> Major flood last wensday
> My apple 2,apple 2 plus,GS,mac 1 [4 of],Mac 1 plus,pizza box,Mac silver [many 
> of each model under 3 feet water]
> PDP-8 with 350÷ disk  and 3 to 500 pc type in flood zone.

Flood ‘act of nature’ flood or ‘busted pipe flood’?

Pop any PRAM batteries out of them, asap, and wash them in clean water.

You will want to disassemble them as much as you can for this process. Let them 
air dry (in an enclosure with Damp RId if your humidity is insane, as I’d 
expect to to be in flood situation.) If it’s an ‘Act of Nature’ type of flood 
there will be a lot of gunk, mud, nasty nasty stuff. Burst pipe floods are 
often just ‘let everything dry'.

I got a G4 from a friend who rescued a bunch of Macs from a flood in Richmond 
VA a number of years ago, after Hurricane Gaston. 
<http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/flood/index.html> and my part cleaning up 
one of those <http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/swampthing/swampthing.html>

It took a while to clean it out (not pictures was the power supply cleanout: I 
took the case off of the PS and it was a mud brick. I simply grabbled the PS by 
it’s cables and kept dunking it in a 5 gallon bucket of water until all the mud 
was washed away, then left it in the sun to dry for a day.

Note, this is AFTER my friend had hosed them all out, let them dry and fired 
them up to see if it worked! 

If you move fast and avoid corrosions you should be ok. SwampThing lasted as my 
primary desktop for several more years, although I did eventually update the 
CPU, RAM, and Video card. I only replaced it when I went to an Intel mac.


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Re: To Upgrade or Not to Upgrade

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On Sep 26, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Julia Brinckloe 
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I have a query regarding Mac system upgrades.

I am currently running Mavericks (OSX 10.9.5) on my Mac Mini, 2.3 GHz Intel 
Core i5, 16 GB RAM.

I've been reluctant to upgrade to Yosemite or El Capitan because this works 
well for me (and my peripherals). I know upgrades use more memory. Not sure 
about support for older peripherals.

Is there any real advantage to upgrading--enough to override "if it ain't 
broke, don't fix it"..?

Performance improved on my Mini of similar spec (2011) updating to Yosemite 
then El Cap. I’m looking at upgrading it to Sierra, in fact.

There were a number of nice features with the last three updates, plus you’re 
going to be missing security updates, soon.

More to the point, unless you’ve got Yosemite or El Cap installers cashed 
somewhere, you can only update to Mac OS Sierra now, because that’s what you 
can get form the App store.

The best performance update I ever did for my Mini was put one of these in it: 
https://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm?Ntk=Primary&Ns=P_Popularity%7C1&Ne=5000&N=100369&Ntt=data+doubler
 , adding an SSD to it and making my own Fusion drive with it: 
http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/storage-drives/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html
 I used a 750MB 7200 rpm drive and the 240gb SSD. My Mini boots up in 30 
seconds. Not as fast as the 13 second boot time for my all-ssd 2013 MacBook 
Air, but WAY faster than the original.

Simply replacing the internal hard drive with an SSD is a *MASSIVE* performance 
improvement over the glacially slow HDD’s that Apple saddled the Mini’s with. 
Seriously. A professor bought a bunch of 2012 minis for his lab and kept 
complaining about how slow they were, and swore our “Windows” (not really) 
network was to blame, because he was downloading 4 and 500MB NIH datasets and 
they were taking forever. I replaced the hard drives with SSD’s and his 
*network* speeds went up. because the bottle neck had been those gawdawful 5400 
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Re: OS X backup script

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Re: Trouble booting from external drive

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> On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:30 AM, GMail Valter Psicof  
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> Which software did you use for cloning?
> I seem to remember there's something that needs to be copied (or fixed) for
> a cloned OSX to be bootable; hence not all clones are born equal.
> Using Carbon Copy Cloner I always had successfully booting clones.

There’s a checkbox in CCC to make the clone bootable. It’s checked by default 
so most people never notice it.

Yes the disk also needs a boot partition. I think repartitioning the backup 
drive (which will also reformat the drive), and then redoing the clone is a 
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Re: Trouble booting from external drive

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> On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Russell Courtenay  
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> Backed up and tried the  restart to boot from the NewerTech drive and 
> got the circle X symbol and it booted from the internal drive. Ran Disk 
> Utility on the external drive, it made some minor fixes, same thing.
> 
> I won't be able to try again till tomorrow night but what do I try next?

Check the Disk partition scheme on the OWC drive. I’ll lay odds its FAT32 not 
GUID. To fix this you have to go into Disk utility, select the drive (not the 
volume) and click on the Partition tab. Select 1 partition and select GUID as 
partition type.

Also, updating the RAM in that iMac is easy and IIRC they’ll take up to 8 or 
16gb. 2GB is marginal even for Snow Leopard. with 4 or 8 gb that iMac will run 
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Re: second hand Mac--no administrative password

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On Jun 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Russell Courtenay  wrote:
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> There should be something that could be done, it seems there are THOUSANDS of 
> locked iPhones out there...
> 
> Russell Courtenay
> 

The problem is that anything that “could be done”  will essentially allow 
people to take over stolen iPhones as well. It’s a hard call.

Of course from Apple’s POV it’s not hard at all; they’ll cheerfully sell you a 
new one! ;-)

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Re: second hand Mac--no administrative password

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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Russell Courtenay  wrote:
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> Now to figure out what to with locked iDevices…

Cutting boards, doorstops? iDevices *have* to be unlocked by their previous 
owners to be usable, both removed from ‘find my iPhone’ under the original 
apple id, and unlocked by the carrier if it’s a cellular device, although if 
the device is to be used on the same carrier that may not be necessary? I”m not 
sure about the latter, but I do know that when I got my current iPhone, the 
original owner had to remove it from their Apple account before I could use it.

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Re: second hand Mac--no administrative password

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> On Jun 15, 2016, at 8:47 AM, lagunacool  wrote:
> 
> Hell Group-
>A friend gave me, what I think is a 20 in. iMac 6.  It belonged to her 
> ex-boyfriend whom she does not talk to anymore.  The administrative password 
> is in his name, so I can not authorize any updates to the system.  As result, 
> I feel the computer is deteriorating and is able to do less and less. (can't 
> do Netflix,Youtube is barely functioning)
> I did try to do the "secret code" that you see online that is supposed to 
> allow you to change the password.  I've made several attempts at this with no 
> success.
>   My question is can I buy newer OSX system install disks. wipe the whole 
> thing clean and start over with my own new password?  I guess the biggest 
> question is do you need the old password to be able to install a newer 
> version of the OS or am I completely screwed?
>   Thanks to anyone who can help with this problem.


You don’t even need to do that.

Start the computer in single user mode by holding down the command and S keys 
while starting up. 

You will come up to a purely character screen.
enter (exactly! This is also shown at the prompt when booted in single-user 
mode)

/sbin/fsck -fy 

And hit return. The computer will do things for a while then come back to the 
prompt. If it says that changes were made to the disk. run the command again. 
(you should be able to hit the up arrow to get to the previous command)

Once it says no changes have been made enter the following line (again, 
exactly!) followed by a return:

/sbin/mount -uw /

Then enter:

rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone

(Note: the period in front of Apple is important)

followed by a return

Then enter:

reboot

and return 

to restart the Mac. It will now come up like it’s a brand new Mac and prompt 
you to create your user account (which is an admin account). Nothing else will 
be changed, but all the files and such under the old admin account will be 
under that account.

Fixing it so that you have access to those files is easy, once you have your 
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Re: Help

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On May 17, 2016, at 6:35 AM, davidw1235 via iMac Group 
mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I have an imac G5, Powermac8,2 running Leopard. Recently it's been acting weird.
I am unable to move any folders on the desktop, I can open folders, and launch 
Applications, but I can't drag and drop anything.
The Desktop picture/background no longer chganges upon restart, before it 
changed each time it started up.
 the Desktop always starts up with the same window open no matter what. and 
Yes, I have closed it and restarted.
Some Applications, like AOL won't start upi. Persistence helps but not always.

Stupid zeroth step: try a different mouse. A mouse with a flaky left button 
will produce the “I can start things but not drag and drop” symptoms.

In fact I had that very experience just last week. Suddenly the Finder became 
weirdly unresponsive…the trackball pointer moved around, right-click worked, 
but I couldn’t click on anything. It was particularly annoying because the 
little microswitch was making the same noise and same ‘click’ feel, usually 
they’re clearly mushy or no longer ‘click’ when pressed. Replacing my trackball 
fixed it. Any three button USB mouse will work properly in OS X.

Can you drag folders around in finder Windows? Ie: is it only your Desktop 
folder that’s affected?

First step: Start in safe mode. Shut the Mac down, and hold down the Shift key 
while starting up. Keep holding it until the progress bar appears. This deletes 
some program caches and such that may cause this behavior. Once it starts up 
and comes to the login prompt, you can restart immediately in normal mode.

Second step : Delete Finder and Desktop preferences. Go to your Library folder 
(in finder Go > Library), find the Preferences folder and find the files 
com.apple.desktop.plist and com.apple.finder.plist move them to the trash and 
restart.

if it persists still, boot from your leopard installer DVD and select Disk 
Utility from the Utilities menu and check your hard drive.

If the drive checks out ok, and all of the above have not fixed it, reboot to 
your computer, go into System Preferences and create a new Administrative user 
account.

Log off and back in as the new user and see if you still have the problems. If 
you do, this is something related to the system and re-installing OS X should 
fix it.

If you don’t have the problems, then the issue is something with your regular 
user account. Re-installing OSX doesn’t fix this; but diagnosing the issue will 
taske some detective work.

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Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

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> On May 6, 2016, at 5:40 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio  wrote:
> 
> I was not familiar with your model. I thought maybe it had a PCI slot behind 
> a trap door. 

No iMacs have ever had PCI slots.

> If you have had it for a while I am rather surprised you do not have the 
> disassembly down to a fast routine.
> 

iMacs, at keast post the white plastic models, have been remarkably long lived. 
RAM is easy to get to, the Hard drive is retty much the only other thing that’s 
not part of the logic board. Working on them is not rocket science, but it’s 
not simple, either. I replaced the HDD in my mid-2010 model ad it took me an 
extra several days because I broke a tiny $2.95 cable that used a slightly 
different connector than the directions I had said. Making sure I didn’t break 
the heavy, delicate, horribly dust-attractive glass screen on my 27” model was 
the biggest hassle. Also I ended up fabricating a useful tool form a heavy 
paperclip to help pull up the LCD screen.

<https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/e1yysSwMNh6o4xqh> 

> My experience has been that if I was going to keep an old machine going I had 
> to learn to work on it. I hate opening laptops but I will do it rather than 
> pay hundreds.
> 
> A set of step by step diagrams is a good thing to have.

ifixit,com has good takeapart diagrams for most macs.

> But I understand the reluctance.
> A power screw driver and some bits makes it a lot easier.
> 
> Casually looking at 2.4 Core 2 says it had a 7200 rpm drive.
> You put a huge  5400 rpm drive in it. 2 bottle necks right there if that is 
> the case.

That makes a huge difference. A professor bought some Mac Mini’s for his lab as 
general-purpose computers (these were 2011 models, iirc) they were horribly 
slow, the HDD speed even reduced the network speeds. replacing them with SSD’s 
was like night and day.

> Some partitioning into a new boot volume with smaller space, might that help ?

Nope. Personally I’d bite the bullet and open it upto replace the HDD, just be 
real wary of the LCD vertical synch cable, it’s quite delicate and easy to 
break…make sure you get a good grip on the connector. In my case my forceps 
slipped off, grabbed the wires and quite efficiently ripped them out of the 
connector. This is complicated by the fact that you can only raise the LCD 
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Re: FW adapter choices?

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> 
> On Apr 20, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there: I want to connect an iSight camera to my Mini. Is there much of any 
> difference in connection quality between a FW-to-Thunderbolt adapter vs. a 
> FW-to-USB 3.0 adapter? Thanks!

Apple’s FW-Thunderbolt adapter has given me no problems, ever in all the years 
I've used it. I’ve never connected an iSight, but I have connected a video 
camera, without issue. No ideas about the USB 3 adapter…sad to say I still 
don’t have any Mac with a USB3 connection...

Get the FW800-TB one, connecting that to a FW400 port is just a matter of 
getting a FW cable that has a 400 connector on one end and an 800 on the other. 
$5 at Monoprice: <http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=3542> and it lets you 
connect to FW 800 ports as well (for things like Target mode on older Mac 
laptops and such. 

Monoprice also has the FW800 to FW 800 cable as well for about the same price.


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Re: Replace HDD iMac 2007

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> On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> 
> I've noticed this to be an issue with my 2008 iMac 24". The original 750 GB 
> HDD was greyed out by Disk utility, and wasn't even remotely capable of being 
> formatted, citing a "unable to mount disk" issue everytime.
> 
> I went the hard way and disassembled the entire machine, replacing the HDD 
> with another one, though, I feel there are other possible solutions. 

I doubt it, that’s a common failure mode I’ve seen with HDD’s, and I wouldn’t 
rule out that as the OP’s issue.

It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve gotten a bad HDD out of the box. One of our 
PC suppliers got a bad lot one time and I got two DOAs in a row on a single 
warrantee repair; that was a lotta pain sitting on the telephone having them 
walk me through stuff I know perfectly well before they believed me.

“Yes I have replaced hard drives before. 
Yes I observed static safety precautions. 
Yes, I tried swapping cables and SATA ports on the logic board. 
I swapped in a spare, much smaller drive we have and it worked perfectly so I 
know it’s not the logic board, cabling or operator error.”

That particular vendor was out of business within a few months, so lord knows 
what shady gray market source they had for their HDD’s.

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Re: Replace HDD iMac 2007

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> On Mar 5, 2016, at 5:43 PM, geof...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> When I boot off DVD, the iMac won't recognise this disk -
> diskutil shows the name, but says it is 0 bytes and 
>   won't allow format (greyed out).

Are you looking at the disk itself in Disk utility or the volume? It could 
simply be unpartitioned, and so you have to do that, but you only get that 
option if you select the disk, not the volume. 

It could also be a DOA disk…your iMac should have no problems with a SATA III 
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Re: HP printer driver update problem

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> On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Charles Lenington  wrote:
> 
> On 2/26/16 2:53 PM, davidw1235 via iMac Group wrote:
>> Can't you download directly to a flash drive and check that for bugs before 
>> installing?
>> 
>> BTW, I am still recovering from a nasty P.U.P. I picked up the beginning of 
>> the month.
>> But that happened to my laptop PC not any of my iMacs
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
> 
> P.U.P. ?

I think he means this: <http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/PUP>

Either that or he found a particularly mean (and smart!) stray dog that doesn’t 
like PC’s :-P

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Re: HP printer driver update problem

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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Bob Whiton  wrote:
> 
>> It is the industry's way of saying you are not spending enough money fast 
>> enough.
>> 
> 
> Actually, HP was surprisingly helpful with this, and I even got to talk to a 
> service rep on the phone.  It turns out that HP hasn’t issued a driver update 
> for this printer since 2006.  This update was all Apple.

All that Apple does is package the vendor-supplied drivers into a single driver 
bundle, so if HP hasn’t updated the driver since 2006, the driver in the newly 
supplied Apple package should not have changed (if it was included at all). 
Apple’s web page for the driver update SHOULD list all the printers included in 
the package.

However, if HP hasn’t updated the driver in ten years, that means the printer 
is > 10 years old; it might be time to send it to that farm upstate where it 
can play with all the other old printers :-/ or just use it with your old 
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Re: Extending the life of an old iMac - Overheating, Windows, etc.

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Eric Volker  wrote:
> 
> My second question relates to Boot Camp and Windows. The logical version to 
> install would be Windows 7, but only 32-bit OS’s are supported on this iMac. 
> Where on earth would I find a 32-bit version of Windows 7?
> 

I would avoid messing with Bootcamp; a VM solution like VirtualBox or Parallels 
is as good IMO and doesn’t require rebooting 
 
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Re: Dead HDD?

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If the RAM and HDD’s were bad, I doubt you would get as far as you get; after 
all, the Finder is running at that point if nothing else.

Have you tried logging in as a different user? If the problem is something in 
your user profile, you can re-install OSX from now until the heat death of the 
universe and it won’t fix a thing.

> On Dec 24, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Thomas Fritsch  wrote:
> 
> i managed to find a spare hdd now unless i got THAT unlucky that its bad too, 
>  i'm right back at the orginal issue (apps bounce but no open/freeze up) i 
> tested the ram but im Still thinking thier faulty  and i dont have any pcs to 
> run a ramtest on. 
> 
> unless hdd + ram's bad i'm curious just how far i knackered my old iMac ;-;

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Re: HD capacity needs for storing audio CDs

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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there: I'm considering transferring all my commercial audio CDs to HD 
> storage, and wonder if there's a rule of thumb about how many CDs would fit 
> onto a drive of X capacity. For example, if I had say 100 CDs that each 
> included 70 minutes of music, how big would the HD need to be to accommodate 
> all those CDs (encoded in a lossless format)? 

It depends on the format.

If you rip a 650 MB CD to a .wav or .aiff format you use 650 MB or a little 
more depending on the format overhead; they perform no compression at all.

Using FLAC or ALAC (Apple Lossless), you can get 50% or better compression of 
the file, depending on the music, at the cost of considerable time spent 
ripping the CDs. Both are akin to .zip files, in that they do lossless 
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Re: Installing classic on Tiger o/s 10.6.8 on an o4 E-mac

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> On May 28, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Dave Sheppard  wrote:
> 
> I'm attempting to install o/s 9 on this e-mac but it keeps coming up "cannot 
> find an os 9 system folder. Well duh! I'm trying to install one! I need to 
> run classic as I have many files created in  classic soft ware as late as o/s 
> 9.2. I have install cd's for o/s 9, os 9.1update but I don't have the 
> original Tiger disc as this was a used computer. What am I doing  wrong?
> Can somebody enlighten me?

Emacs need a minimum of 9.2.2, so your disks won’t work.

You can try this trick: 

<http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=486.0>

Here’s the NetBoot Image link:

<https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US>


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Re: What do you use your (old) iMac for in 2015?

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> On May 26, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Neil Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Well, the bad news is that it looks like in my case it's the PAV board, which 
> seems to be the cause of many a G3 iMac's demise. Since I'm not comfortable 
> dealing with high voltages, and this machine is getting a bit too slow, I 
> suspect it's going to be farewell ;-(


Ah well, you can always turn it into a planter, an aquarium,  or a cat bed :-) 
<http://kieuthings.com/2012/02/24/happy-friday-imac-cat-bed/>

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Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 3 updates in 2 topics

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On May 25, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Colin Yarwood 
mailto:colin.yarw...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Bruce

It was looking good and I did hget there but you will remember I have 10.3.9 at 
present...

On the payback site it says:

"CCC 2.3 currently works on Tiger, however you must be running at least 10.4.2. 
 I am still working on an upgrade that will introduce many long-awaited 
features. For now, clone away with version 2.3."


The text for the download link on the wayback page:
Download v. 2.3 
Now!<https://web.archive.org/web/20060323223755/http://www.bombich.com/software/files/cccloner.dmg>
 (Mac OS 10.2.x - 10.3.9, 10.4.2+)

This version will definitely work with your OS X version.

--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: 2001 iMac. Is this machine still useful?

[Bruce Johnson]

> On May 23, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Clark Martin  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Guys 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> First the bad news - CCC : (the authors tell me) is not compat with 10.3.9 
>> :-(
> 
> The current version isn't but there is a version that is, I used CCC a bunch 
> with 10.3 and 10.4.
>> 


The Wayback Machine is your friend:



This is just one version chosen at random, but the download worked.

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