Goodbye...
Hi. I have enjoyed being on this group and if my circumstances change then I shall join again, but for now, goodbye. Simon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: imac g3 (Summer 2000 Indigo) only reflecting 1/2 size of memory installed
Mia It could be incompatible RAM. This happens in the black PowerBook G3 range, some RAM (high density or low density, I can never remember which) will only be detected at half its actually rate, something to do with the number of chips. With the PowerBooks you need sticks with chips on both sides. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks there. Simon On 1 Oct 2009, at 00:32, Mia wrote: Hi there, I've been trying to upgrade an i-Mac G3 (Summer 2000 Indigo-http:// www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/stats/imac_dv_400_indigo.html). In the System Info, the Dimm 0 slot only shows 1/2 the value of the memory inserted (i.e. half of 512mb/256mb), and shows no memory inserted in the Dimm1 slot. I'm assuming the slots are faulty, but is there a way to fix? Firmware is updated, and the machine is currently running Jaguar. But, this was a problem even when it was running 9.0. Help? Thanks Mia Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cooling issues with my iMac G3 blueberry
Hi. I had one maxxed on RAM, large hard drive, dvd drive fitted and running Tiger and the thing used to smell it got that hot. A burning plastic smell. It was a 400Mhz slot loading model. You have to remember it is only a G3 and most apps will stress out the processor and other internal components. Adding a fan sounds like a cool idea (no pun intended) if it was done neatly. Simon On 28 Sep 2009, at 18:29, Elliott Price wrote: Unless it's getting really, really hot, enough to crash your system, I would say it's not that much of a problem. Since they don't have a fan and cool by letting the heat rise up and out of the vent around the handle, if that area is hot it means the computer's insides aren't as hot. It's the same kind of thing as the compact macs. If it is a problem, your solution sounds like a viable one. (Although the thought of cutting up an iMac is disturbing to me...) I wonder how the structural integrity would be without the Blueberry top case? That would let more heat escape (And also be a potential shock hazard...) Anyways, hope that was helpful... :) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: So i've been bugging you for weeks about my new blueberry iMac and... the bugger overheats after a few hours of use... I'm tempted to slice out the handle and replace it with a massive blue LED fan, or 2 smaller blue LED fans on either side. I know this will ruin the origional ness of the iMac (bigger HDD, max ram, new CD-RW\DVD-ROM drive, upgraded speakers, who knows what else...) , but I don't care... it isn't like anyone really wanted this anyways, and I don't plan on selling it anytime soon. I would power it off the same cord for the HDD, and it would be attached to an inline rheostat to allow for adjustment of speed (or to allow me to turn it off) Any one have any better ideas for cooling it\placement of fans\ways to keep it cool without butchering the case? Thanks for he help currently, and i've (hopefully) gotten the wireless thing fixed (bad channel, cordless phones were interfering) -christian Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing Mobo on G3 Imac
Hi. It's easy. Done it loads of times. Simon On 22 Sep 2009, at 21:00, Jasiu wrote: How difficult is to change the Mobo on a G3 Slot Loading Imac? Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
Hi. To reiterate what I said earlier, I run Leopard on an 867Mhz G4 TiBook originally with 768MB of RAM. It is my main Mac and I do everything on it. It runs lovely. Very happy with the performance and I run apps like OpenOffice, Photoshop, GIMP, VLC, Audacity etc daily without too much hassle... I upped to 1GB of RAM and the difference was noticeable. I'm not naive, yes a newer Mac would be faster but this one suits me. Simon On 10 Sep 2009, at 23:01, Jarett DeAngelis wrote: I haven't ever found that to be the case on that class of hardware, but your usage may be much more limited than mine. Rich media web browsing, Entourage, Adium and moderate use of Dashboard will occupy those resources very, very quickly. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
Wayne Go for it. Leopard runs perfectly well with 1GB of RAM. Of course it will be better under 2GB. I had a 1.25Ghz G4 eMac. It had 1.5GB of RAM and Leopard ran lovely on it. I currently have an 867Mhz G4 PowerBook TiBook. It has 1GB of RAM and Leopard runs lovely on that too. Simon On 9 Sep 2009, at 20:23, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote: I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Vigorous disk ejector?
Hi. Yes it seems the Cube was totally opposite. It had such a strong fuzzy pad it prevented discs popping out properly. Some times you had to pull on them gently to get them out. Simon On 25 Aug 2009, at 10:28, Susan Platter wrote: I wish my Cube would do that; I frequently have to eject several times before the disk even pokes out far enough to get my fingers on it! :D Regards Susan Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Imac wireless
Hi. iMac G3 with a slot loading drive are Airport compatible with a bracket. I have used usb sticks under 10.3 and 10.4 successfully. Ones with a RaLink chipset are pretty good but not as good as Airport. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) - original message - Subject:Re: Imac wireless From: Robert Esposito bobespos...@mac.com Date: 18/08/2009 11:11 Hi, The original Apple Airport Card 802.11b will fit most iMacs with an adapter. Make sure you get the adapter. Do not buy the newer Apple Airport extreme cards. They are faster than the original card but don't work in G3 iMacs. I have never had success using usb external wireless but they may work too. I still use 802.11b cards in my Apple Cube. I find it is still quite useful in those Macs that were built to take advantage of it. Best Wishes, Bob On Aug 17, 2009, at 10:03 PM, epic93d...@gmail.com wrote: What is there for a g3 imac in terms of wireless networking. I heard of airport but I have no idea about the details of it. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Kernel panic on eMac
Hi. eMacs are known for bad capacitors in later models. I had one with blown ones and one sign is unexplainable kernel panics. You seem to have done enough to narrow down the hardware. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: adding ram to an eMac
Hi. If it is a 700 or 800mhz model it will take PC133. If you have installed memory in a G3 iMac then it is pretty much the same. Access is via a hatch on the underneath. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac trouble
Matthew What exactly is the problem? When you say it doesn't boot does it just stop or does it display a message? Simon On 31 Jul 2009, at 03:26, Matthew LoRe wrote: Hi, Firstly let me say hello to everyone. I am newly posting to the list. I signed up a few weeks ago. I have a 1Ghz eMac that almost never boots up the first time. If I pull the plug and then try again it starts the second time. Is there a better/safer way to reset an eMac? Has anyone had an experience like this? If it's a software issue I sure don't know what it is, I upgraded to 10.4 a few weeks back and initially it stopped having this problem but now it is doing it again. Any expertise would be appreciated. Sincerely, Matt Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS9.x on G4 imacs?
Hi. Remember Leopard has no Classic support. However if your Mac still supports booting into OS9 and has higher enough requirements to support Leopard you can dual boot between to the two. I do on my PowerBook G4. Simon On 28 Jul 2009, at 10:47, Mike Linnett wrote: Yep, that should work! Any powermac G4 apart from the fw800 ones will boot os9 (either just the classic, or dual boot with X), not sure of the situation with 'books or anything tho, someone else will probably chime in though On 28 Jul 2009, at 10:42, williamd willi...@wyoming.com wrote: I read somewhere that certain models of G4 imacs can boot into os9 as well as X. But does this also mean they can use OS 9 without installing X? Thanks for any info. bill Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: AirPort card for imac G4?
Hi Airport Extreme cards are all the same. If you have one that has it BTO (built to order), then this is something different and one newer Intel machines is a small board on the inside and not a physical card like the one Jim has. The card Jim has is I presume a silver card which is user installable. The original Airport card was used in G3 iBooks and G3 PowerBooks (Pismo) as well as PowerBook G4 Titaniums, early eMacs (700 and nVidia 800Mhz), iMac G3 (slot loaders with additional Airport bracket), iMac G4 (upto 800Mhz), PowerMac G4 (AGP graphics 'Sawtooth up to the August 2002 Mirror Door). Airport Extreme cards were used in machine models after those mentioned above, inc: PowerBook G4 Aluminums, iBook G4, eMac ATI 800Mhz and above, iMac G4 1Ghz and above, PowerMac G4 Mirror Door FW800 and above. PowerMac G5. Plus PowerPC Mac Minis. All Intel machines have built in Airport Extreme on a mini card as mentioned above. Some of the very last PowerPC models also had it built in via a mini card. So in short, the Airport Extreme card Jim has from his iMac G4 will fit, so will one from the above machines I listed. Hope this helps. Simon On 25 Jul 2009, at 21:23, Jim Scott wrote: On Jul 25, 2:51 am, williamd willi...@wyoming.com wrote: I would like to add an airport card to my G4 imac, 1.0ghz, 15-inch, usb 2.0 model. As i understand it i need an Airport Express card, but is there more than one of these? I see many listings for use on Mac laptops- would this be the same card? bill According to this Apple web page http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2256?viewlocale=en_US , your USB 2.0 iMac requires a standard Airport Extreme card. The one in my hand I pulled out of my 17 iMac G4 with USB 2.0 is about 1-7/8 wide by 2-5/16 long. The model number is A1027 and that's written on the front above the Airport Extreme lettering. Yes, there are a variety of Airport Extreme form factors in Apple laptops, including some that include bluetooth as well as wi-fi capabilities. You want the one I describe. HTH, Jim Scott Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Re:
Me neither. --- visit my Mac website at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) - original message - Subject:Re: Re: From: Tim Grimes timothykgri...@yahoo.com Date: 25/07/2009 22:29 Perhaps one of you could explain to me what has outraged the prima donas amongst us? I'm not seeing spam in any Emails recevied from this group? Cheers --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Justin Reichert macjc50...@gmail.com wrote: From: Justin Reichert macjc50...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Re: To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 10:48 AM Seriously? Spamming links to a small email list? If you're going to spam your link maybe you should think about posting it in a smaller, dumber email list. xD On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com wrote: On Jul 19, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Brian Troisi wrote: Thank you for positing phishing website links. It's sooo helpful / sarcasm If you're going to spam links here, please leave. If you didn't send it (virus or something), then please fix it. Who is the culprit!! Throw the dirty devil out!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX on iMac G3
Cliff I had a Snow 600Mhz iMac G3 and it ran Mac OSX 10.4 perfectly. My son used it for a year. You might want to up the RAM to 1GB but it will run it no problems. My first iMac was a 400Mhz Indigo and it ran 10.4 no problem too. I have run 10.4 on as little as a 233Mhz iMac and it was ok. Simon On 4 May 2009, at 20:55, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm migrating this post from the G3-G5 list Ihave access (for a good price) to a lightly used iMac M5521 EMC 1857 40 GB HD 600 Mhz 512 RAM RN1144XIKOBFS06 that might work as a data logger for our Oregon Scientific Weather Station. if it will run OS X so that I can run Weather Tracker http://www.afterten.com/ Comments on suitability of this iMac for my purpose are appreciated, with any recommendations for necessary upgrading. thank you Cliff Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Broadban on my old imac?
Troy The simple answer is yes. Your iMac will be able to connect to the net via ethernet no problems. You say you have 9.2 - so that should be fine. I run 9.2.2 on my PowerBook and it connects to my router via ethernet no problem. You might need to go into the TCP/IP Control Panel and tell it to use Ethernet. Been a while since I set up an OS9 machine. Simon On 3 May 2009, at 10:06, Kiwiboy wrote: Hi there A few months ago we finally got broadband at home, which has been great, and tonight I was wondering if I would be able to get my old imac to run it. It is a PowerPC G3 266Mhz running OS 9.2 The broandband modem we have at home is a wireless Thomson, but it has 4 cable jacks and I have a long enough cable to run to the room the imac lives in. Firstly, will my beloved imac be able to run broadband, and if so, how do I go about setting it up? Do I need to tweek some configure boxes in the control panel, or is there some software I will need to get first. Also will OS 9.2 allow me to do this? I am a relative novice to Macs - have collected a few vintage ones now and am enjoying them :) Any help is greatly appreciated. Cheers Troy Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mac Mini In G3 iMac Case...
Hi I love the G3 iMac and miss it. I was thinking of stripping the insides out of a G3 iMac - leaving the screen there and replacing it with a Mac Mini. If I mounted it in the right place I could use the slot in the front of the iMac for the drive slot and hook up the existing speakers. Obviously this is all in my head - I have yet to put it to paper. What do you all think? Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Slow bootup?
Bill Slow start up can be a lot of things, but I don't think it is RAM. Low RAM would cause slow start up but it was also make the whole machine slow. I think you said you were running Leopard, but I don't remember how much RAM you had. I have 768MB of RAM in Leopard and it isn't slow to start up or use. I would suggest, repair disk permissions and check your start up items. Make sure you have plenty of free space on your drive too. Then see. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Slow bootup? From: Bill Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu Date: 29/03/2009 22:45 On Mar 29, 1:30 pm, Manuel Marques manuelmar...@gmail.com wrote: Even so, you have little RAM in this machine. I'd recommend bumping it to 2 gig, at least... the memories of my iMac when it had only a gig of RAM still haunt me - when I launched iPhoto, it was a total nightmare :P. MM Hmm...that wouldn't make things _progressively_ slower, would it? Plus, we are really pretty light users at our house for the most part: no film or video, very very little with photos or audio or downloads of any kind, the vast majority of use being the internet basics and pretty basic document/spreadsheet-type stuff. Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Combo drive for slot-load G3 iMac
Dan I think the connections on the drives are the same but the drives in iBooks/PowerBooks/Mac Minis/G5 Intel iMacs and different shape to G3 iMacs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. You could probably fix it in somehow. From memory I think the G3 iMac and G4 Cube use the same drives. It might be easier to fit a DVDRW than find a compatible Combo drive. There was a model of iMac G3 that shipped with a CDRW drive (the graphic model I had at work did) but it couldn't read DVDs. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Combo drive for slot-load G3 iMac From: Dan the listmom lowend...@gmail.com Date: 26/03/2009 10:30 I have a 400 MHz CD-ROM G3 iMac and a 450 MHz DVD-ROM model. I'd like to install a Combo drive (CD-RW/DVD-ROM), but the only thing I can find online is a SuperDrive from MCE for $149. I have no need to burn DVDs, but I would like to be able to use DVDs in either of these and have the option of burning a CD now and then. I have an 867 MHz 12 PowerBook G4 that I'm parting out, and it got me to thinking. This 'Book has a slot-loading Combo drive - is it possible and practical to install that in one of my iMacs? Thanks in advance for any help! Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dodgy eMacs
Hi As youu know. My 1.25Ghz eMac is up the shoot. It's my little boys so I need to replace it asap. I have read lots of forums about it and it seems to only affect the 1.25Ghz models. I've got two 800mhz eMacs which are fine and I had a 1Ghz ATI model from new which wasn't affected either. So I am wondering if it is just the 1.25Ghz models that suffer from this. If so I shall get a different model either a 1Ghz or a 1.42Ghz one. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac Checked Board
Hi. Well even booting from my PowerBook in Target Mode didn't help. So it isn't the hard drive. Booted into Tiger and it last ten minutes before it kernelled. Booted into Leopard (I have both on my PowerBook) and it lasted about 10 mins again. Although when I first booted it into Leopard it came up with an Open Firmware screen and a message saying invalid memory access. I then tried again and it booted all the way. It is just one capacitor by the looks of it. Are all the logic boards compatible with each machine. I might try and pick up a new board, although I did pick up my 3 eMacs (2x 800Mhz and this 1.25Ghz) for only £125 inc delivery a few months ago - so I might just order another one. I could probably make more selling the bits from this broken one to cover the new one. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac Checked Board From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Date: 21/03/2009 18:57 At 1:05 PM -0500 3/21/2009, ./aal wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:54 PM + 3/21/2009, Simon Royal wrote: There are no bulges on any of the capacitors. Ok. That's good. heh. I was half hoping something obvious amiss would make this diag easy. take it from my 30+ yrs of electronics exp they dont always bulge before popping Dan he mentioned white stuff on one, .bad board oops. Missed that. Yer right. At least that cap needs replacing. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic and Tiger HELP!!!
Hi Well has anyone tried to use Internet Explorer under Tiger and Leopard - it isn't a pretty experience. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 21 2009, Brian Troisi wrote: On Mar 21, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Beverly Woods wrote: Po-en Tsai wrote: Hi all!, Thanks! I have finally got it working from my OS9 installation discs. Thanks for all the help! Now I can use Internet Explorer 5! OK, now I am really mystified. 1) Why do you want to run Internet Explorer 5? 2) You do know that Internet Explorer 5.2.3 runs in OS X, right? I know! This is weird Next time, you should tell us why you're trying to fix the problem, then we could easily link you to a IE5 os x download as opposed to speculate why classic will not install right ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic and Tiger HELP!!!
Hi. Won't the netboot image from Apple suffuce here? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Classic and Tiger HELP!!! From: Brian Troisi btrois...@gmail.com Date: 20/03/2009 11:26 On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Po-en Tsai wrote: Hi, I have a iMac G3 running Mac OSX 10.4, and I would like to put on Classic, but I don't have a Classic System Folder... I have the original iMac OS9 CD's, but it doesnt seem to let me install Classic without installing OS9, then installing OSX again - which I dont want to do. The only solution I have found that suits me is get a OS9 Classic Folder from someone that already has Classic installed. The folder should be in your Root of your HD, for example Macintosh HD / System Folder. It should have a OS9 icon on it. Would anyone have a solution? Or a copy of the OS9 Classic System Folder they can zip and host on something like Rapidshare for me? I'd love to zip up my Classic System Folder... but I think that may be illegal. I'm not sure. I'll see what other people have to say. If I can't do that, there's still a way to get classic without installing from a CD. I'll tell you that if I can't zip up my folder. Good luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic and Tiger HELP!!!
Hi. As long as you installed OS9 drivers when installing OSX, otherwise you wont be able to install OS9 afterwards. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Classic and Tiger HELP!!! From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Date: 20/03/2009 17:10 Po-en Tsai wrote: Hi, I have a iMac G3 running Mac OSX 10.4, and I would like to put on Classic, but I don't have a Classic System Folder... I have the original iMac OS9 CD's, but it doesnt seem to let me install Classic without installing OS9, then installing OSX again - which I dont want to do. The only solution I have found that suits me is get a OS9 Classic Folder from someone that already has Classic installed. The folder should be in your Root of your HD, for example Macintosh HD / System Folder. It should have a OS9 icon on it. Just boot from the OS 9 CD and run the installer. Don't format the disk and don't do a clean install. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail Glitch or Gmail Goof?
Hi Do you have the new Safari 4 Beta by any chance. I know a lot people who have had Mail and Growl problems after installing it. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 18 2009, Po-en Tsai wrote: Weird! I wouldnt think it was Mail, as it doesnt seem like the program to have such a obvious glitch! Are you sure you were looking at the right accounts? On 3/17/09, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: Hello: Using Apple Mail 3.2 on aluminum iMac with two Gmail POP accounts. This morning from Account #1, I used the Reply button twice to respond to two different messages. Much to my surprise, they showed up coming back to me in my Account #2 and not in Account #1. And sure enough, they are in the Sent box of the online Gmail account #2. In the Sent box of Apple Mail, the two outgoing items sit in Account #1 where they belong. What's going on? In two tests from Account #1 this evening, everything is fine at online Gmail. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: g3 memory
Hi I love the high end G3 iMacs, even in this Leopard age they can really rock. I miss them actually. It was cheaper for me to upgrade my son to a G4 eMac with 768MB of RAM than it was to upgrade his Snow G3 iMac to 1GB of RAM and the performance increase is superb - after all he is only 6. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 7 2009, Mark W. wrote: The 600s will really Rock 'n Roll with a couple of 512s. just so amazing what these old obsolete iMacs will do. I have 3 of the 600s ..also have a couple for parts. if ya need anything i will help you out if I can...for free always. Mark --- On Thu, 3/5/09, thomas head headbon...@gmail.com wrote: From: thomas head headbon...@gmail.com Subject: g3 memory To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 10:31 AM good day. i just bought an indigo 600 mhz. i was told it can handle 1 gig of memory. if so, where do i purchase and is it a hassle installing? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Non Destructive Partitioning
Hi I want to repartition my hard drive. I currently have an 80GB drive (or 74.5GB as it shows up in OSX as), split into two. 73GB for Leopard and 1GB for OS9. I want to add a third partition for Tiger - only a small 3GB one, taking Leopard down to 70GB. I have used iPartition before on a number of occasions successfully, via Target Mode on another Mac, but I don't own iPartition (it was a friends Mac - who I have lost contact with). I Googled it this morning and aparently as of 10.4.6 you can do it using Terminal, but it looks a bit scarey. Is there any other program you can do it with? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Non Destructive Partitioning
Dan. I saw sense, although I don't have a full back up of my Mac at any given time, just the important files - about 2GB backed up online. I don't have a big enough external storage device. I do however have my sons eMac with just enough free space. So I used SuperDuper to clone my Leopard install to an image on his hard drive via target mode. Then I repartitioned the PowerBook into 3 (one for Leopard, one for Tiger and one for OS9). At present I am cloning the Leopard image back. Fingers crossed. Then my OS9 image (which is a puny 200MB) and then I will install Tiger. I have succesfully used iPartition, but like you say I want it nice and cleanly done. Also apologies for the double posting. Simon --- Repartitioning is RISKY. VERY RISKY. Oh wait. If you have up to date backups -- why not just do it right? Repartition the drive properly, laying down a *clean* partition map, with Disk Utility, then reload the volumes from your backup. Why go to the risk of having the data loss and a foo partition map (that NO repair tool can fix!)? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Non Destructive Partitioning
Dan Well it worked. I backed up Leopard to a sparseimage onto my sons eMac. I had a little scarey moment when I went to clone it back again. I couldn't select the .sparseimage file in SuperDuper. Luckily renaming it .dmg did the trick - phew! One other tip. Before cloning it back, mount the image before cloning and don't just select the .dmg file. I now have three partitions and three operating systems. 70GB for Leopard, 3.8GB for Tiger and 745MB for OS9 and I can boot into any of them. In fact I am writing this in Tiger while running Software Update to get the last few updates. Simon --- Nice! Let us know how it goes. I haven't tried the backup-into-an-image bit before. - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Intel iMac Startup Freeze
Hi I have an Intel iMac (2006 model) and it started doing the same thing. Then it started slowing down, hanging and panicking. Then the internal hard drive stopped being recognised. Then it gave up the ghost permanently. The DC board burnt out - taking the hard drive and logic board with it. It may not be the case for you. Have you tried checking the disc in disk utility? repair permissions and verify disc. Also check the RAM is seated properly. Simon --- I haven't noticed any other oddities with this machine: no panics or slow running. It is a 20-incher from mid 2007 and has had a 300GB disk fitted by the previous owner. It is running 10.5.6 and has 3GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM. It started up perfectly this morning but yesterday I had to use the off button to do a restart. It began doing this roughly two months ago. Regards Susan On Feb 20, 10:17 pm, Simon Royal m...@simonroyal.co.uk wrote: Susan What version iMac is it and what version of OSX are you running? Have you noticed any other oddities with the machine, like panics or slow running in general? Simon --- My second hand Intel iMac (no AppleCare) occasionally freezes during startup, at any stage from the pale blue screen right up to immediately after the login screen. Is this a symptom of a disk problem? Regards Susan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Get OS 9.2.2. For Free
Brian. I wrote exactly that. Simon --- I can help you with that. Just download the Netboot for OS 9 from this website: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243 Then once downloaded, use Pacifist to extract the System Folder to the root of your HD. Once there, you can select that folder as the System Folder in System Preferences. That is a fully functional, legal, Mac OS 9 install. It works fine for classic, and booting into (but you can't boot into it if you have a newer PowerBook.) Good luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More eMac Problems
Al The SMART status is verified. Simon --- In Disk Utility, what does the S.M.A.R.T. status say? This can give an indication of some hardware problems. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
More eMac Problems
Hi. I posted a few weeks ago about a text panic on my little boys eMac. Well it hasn't been the same since. Random lock ups when starting or using Safari and numerous Kernel Panics. I ran Disk Utility and the boot drive had an error when I ran the Verify Disc option. Something about BitMap Error. I repaired it and it was succesful and presumed everything was ok. A few days later the problem came back, so I repaired it once again, but the problem is back again. System is: eMac 1.25Ghz, 1GB RAM, 80GB hard drive (which I fitted a few months ago), running 10.4.11. Is the hard drive shot? Is it worse than that? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quark 6.1 - OS 10.5.4
Frederick. I'm sure 6.1 had problems in Tiger too. There was an update to 6.5 that sorted the problems in Tiger, maybe they will work for Leopard. I shall have a look at my Quark. What probs were yoi having? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Quark 6.1 - OS 10.5.4 From: Frederick Falkenberg falkenb...@cybermesa.com Date: 08/02/2009 23:06 Thank you and much appreciate for your tips Bruce Johnson. Frederick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Panic
Tim I started in normal mode and got this bizarre message. Simon -- If you started up in verbose mode, I think that you get a similarly verbose kernel panic message. Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: thumb drives (jump drives)
Hi I have an Iomega 128MB Mini USB drive which I have had for about 10 years, it is still going strong, it has outlived many other USB drives. Since the move to OSX (back in 10.1) it has been formatted to HFS+ and it is used every day. Don't see how HFS+ can shorten the life of a drive. Simon --- dont format flash with a journaling filesystem --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Panic
Dan It wasn't a normal panic. Not the dark box with 'you need to restart your Mac' written in lots of languages. It was similar to the text when you start up in verbose mode. Simon --- If it took the whole OS down, it was a kernal panic. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Safari Panic
Hi. My 6 year old son has an eMac 1.25Ghz running 10.4.11. He is free to use it as I have set him up with no admin rights and limited Finder (but not Simple Finder). A couple of days he called me upstairs to be greeted with a, what I believe is called a verbose panic - white text outlined in black overlaying the desktop. He had simply booted and opened Safari and then it threw that up. It has never crashed before and has been fine since. Is this just one of those blips or should I be worried? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac
Amanda I bought an Intel iMac 17 1.83Ghz when the first came out and it came with 512MB of RAM (running Tiger), the jump to 1GB made a massive improvement. The move from 1GB to 2GB was also noticeable. I would recommend upping from 1GB to 2GB especially under Leopard. Intel Macs can run Tiger, but you need an Intel version of Tiger. A Leopard DVD will install on either PowerPC or Intel machine. Tiger however requires specific discs depending on the architecture you are using. All retail versions of Tiger prior to 10.4.4 were PowerPC only. After 10.4.4 you can install them on either architecture (someone correct me if I am wrong). Intel Macs use APM as a partition scheme but Intel use GUID as a partitioning scheme. Therefore a Tiger/Leopard installation from a PowerPC Mac will not boot an Intel Mac and visa versa. If you require Tiger on an external, I suggest you find a retail version of Tiger which is higher than 10.4.4 and install it on an external drive with GUID partitioning. Simon On 9 Jan 2009, at 22:20, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All, I finally broke down and bought a new Mac. Okay... all the Macs I've bought have been new =to me=, but this one is like really new... I'm owner number one. It's the iMac 20 2.4GHz model. I =really= want the 24 3.06 GHz, but do I really NEED it. No prolly not. I'm a little amazed at the performance increase over my G4/1.6GHz. Gregory wasn't a slouch, but Irving (the iMac) just screams! He has 1GB ram... would increasing to 2GB show a significant performance boost? I don't do a lot of heavy graphics/video/audio work... mostly watching movies while working on an occasional spreadsheet. Lastly... can an Intel Mac boot Tiger... and do it from an external Firewire drive? I ask because I have a few apps that aren't upgraded for Leopard. On the G4 running 10.5 , I could boot from the external drive with 10.4 and run them. Thanks for any advice Amanda --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: putting a DVD into a Ruby iMac?
Peter I cannot see why this shouldn't work. It is a pretty straight forward procedure to swap optical drives. They are both slot drives. The Ruby according to MacTracker is an iMac DV, which came with either a 24x CD or a 4x DVD. I had the 500Mhz Snow version which came with a DVD drive and it worked fine for playing DVDs. All of the iMacs in this range have the same graphics card. Simon On 19 Dec 2008, at 10:54, Peter Mc Court wrote: Greetings all, I have a Ruby iMac (G3, 400MHz, 36GB HD, CD drive, 256MB RAM, OS9.2.1, Firmware 4.1.9, Airport card, model number M7706). Ruby has a 24XCDROM player. I also have a Tangerine iMac with a dead mobo, but with a functional slot loading 4XDVD drive. My question: can I swap Ruby's ATA CD drive with the Tangerine's ATA DVD? I'm concerned about Ruby's architecture - I cannot run Apple's DVD player on her as I get the message that the graphics card is not supported. And, I know that this is not a small job, so I'd like any input before I embark on major surgery. Cheers and TIA, Peter --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: putting a DVD into a Ruby iMac?
Peter The Tangerine iMac with a slot drive is the batch of models prior to the Ruby you have. I see no reason why it shouldn't play DVDs. Like I said I had a Snow version and it came with a DVD and played them fine. It must have the same video card as your Ruby so I don't see a problem. Both the Tangerine and Ruby have 4MB 2x AGP graphics cards. Simon On 19 Dec 2008, at 13:27, Peter Mc Court wrote: Thanks (again) Simon. Some more info: my Ruby is a Summer 2000 (400 MHz) version, with an ATI Rage 128Pk/128Pro card (8MB VRAM). The defunct Tangerine (with DVD drive) has an ATI Rage 128K/128VR card (8MB VRAM). The only reason I would like to put a DVD in Ruby would be to play films for my kids. However, if I can't show films with Ruby's video card, then I'll skip swapping out Ruby's CD drive, and use Firewire Target Disk Mode for software/OSX installations etc. Cheers - peter On 19 Dec 2008, at 12:10, Simon Royal wrote: Peter I cannot see why this shouldn't work. It is a pretty straight forward procedure to swap optical drives. They are both slot drives. The Ruby according to MacTracker is an iMac DV, which came with either a 24x CD or a 4x DVD. I had the 500Mhz Snow version which came with a DVD drive and it worked fine for playing DVDs. All of the iMacs in this range have the same graphics card. Simon On 19 Dec 2008, at 10:54, Peter Mc Court wrote: Greetings all, I have a Ruby iMac (G3, 400MHz, 36GB HD, CD drive, 256MB RAM, OS9.2.1, Firmware 4.1.9, Airport card, model number M7706). Ruby has a 24XCDROM player. I also have a Tangerine iMac with a dead mobo, but with a functional slot loading 4XDVD drive. My question: can I swap Ruby's ATA CD drive with the Tangerine's ATA DVD? I'm concerned about Ruby's architecture - I cannot run Apple's DVD player on her as I get the message that the graphics card is not supported. And, I know that this is not a small job, so I'd like any input before I embark on major surgery. Cheers and TIA, Peter --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: putting a DVD into a Ruby iMac?
Lyle If you want a nerve wrecking experience try swapping plastics. I had a dead Orange iMac with great plastics and a working Blue iMac with smashed plastics. I stripped all the plastics from both machines and put the good innards in the Orange plastics. Simon On 19 Dec 2008, at 13:25, Lyle Lathem wrote: I never could get the plastic case off mine. Luckily the battery was on the bottom under a shield. Lyle Simon Royal wrote: Peter I cannot see why this shouldn't work. It is a pretty straight forward procedure to swap optical drives. They are both slot drives. The Ruby according to MacTracker is an iMac DV, which came with either a 24x CD or a 4x DVD. I had the 500Mhz Snow version which came with a DVD drive and it worked fine for playing DVDs. All of the iMacs in this range have the same graphics card. Simon On 19 Dec 2008, at 10:54, Peter Mc Court wrote: Greetings all, I have a Ruby iMac (G3, 400MHz, 36GB HD, CD drive, 256MB RAM, OS9.2.1, Firmware 4.1.9, Airport card, model number M7706). Ruby has a 24XCDROM player. I also have a Tangerine iMac with a dead mobo, but with a functional slot loading 4XDVD drive. My question: can I swap Ruby's ATA CD drive with the Tangerine's ATA DVD? I'm concerned about Ruby's architecture - I cannot run Apple's DVD player on her as I get the message that the graphics card is not supported. And, I know that this is not a small job, so I'd like any input before I embark on major surgery. Cheers and TIA, Peter --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Kyle. I know. This has been done. Software Update. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser From: Kyle Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/12/2008 07:21 If you click on the Apple icon on the top left, there will be a link that says something like update files. You need to connect to the internet and run this program. It is similar to running windows update. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Apple Updater? Are you talking about Software Update or is there something else I am missing? Simon On 8 Dec 2008, at 02:31, Kyle Parish wrote: Make sure you use the apple updater to get the latest drivers and everything. This won't hurt. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM, ./aal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan The PowerBook has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the eMac has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Radeon 9200. In terms of drivers, well they are Macs running Leopard with built in drivers. The eMac has more RAM and about 60% more processor power. Speed does not equal processor power A Ferrari is faster than a train, but which will get 100 tons of freight coast to coast first? after some interesting reading I found your answer the eMac(ppc 7447a) does not have L3 cache, the powerbook(ppc 7455) does The cpu speed only comes into play once the data is actually in the cpu even though the emac has a substantially higher clock speed the powerbook spends less time waiting for data to work on even if you had a 40ghz cpu it would be slow if it took a second to xfer data to the cpu here are some links if you are curious emac specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.25.html powerbook specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_867.html G4 cpu wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4#PowerPC_7447.2F7457_.22Apollo_7.22 cache wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_cache -- I'm a PC AND I RUN LINUX!!! Dean Martin - If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Dan What further information would you like? The eMac has an 80GB 7200RPM Seagate drive, not stock and the PowerBook has an 80GB 5400RPM drive, not stock. Both machines totally up to date running 10.5.5. eMac has a genuine Airport Extreme card, PowerBook has a Buffalo Airstation as Airport Extreme card. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/12/2008 16:38 At 10:01 AM + 12/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: I did provide all the information needed and to be honest it isn't a major problem. Ohkay. In any case, both machines were using the same circumstances. But there IS a difference between them and without further information there's not much we can suggest. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Dan. File sharing is on. Turning off make no difference. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/12/2008 18:23 At 5:54 PM + 12/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: What further information would you like? Well... Does the visualizer stutter when the file sharing is NOT in use? When turned off? If it does, then what does Activity Monitor show as the top few CPU using processes? There is SOMETHING in that eMac taking away resources from the visualizer. The point is to look around to find it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB 1.1 Ports Upgrade?
Hi Is there such a thing as a firewire to USB converter. Must admit I haven't seen them, but it might give you faster USB via Firewire. Simon On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:51, ./aal wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Have a Bondi iMac, 233mhz, 96mb, 4GB HD with 2 USB 1.1 Ports. and OS 9.2 Can these ports be upgrade to USB 2? If so, how? Thank you Frederick Falkenberg, a 81 year old grandfather Sorry those are built into the motherboard, no upgrade possible -- I'm a PC AND I RUN LINUX!!! H. L. Mencken - Platitude: an idea (a) that is admitted to be true by everyone, and (b) that is not true. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Hi Apple Updater? Are you talking about Software Update or is there something else I am missing? Simon On 8 Dec 2008, at 02:31, Kyle Parish wrote: Make sure you use the apple updater to get the latest drivers and everything. This won't hurt. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM, ./aal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan The PowerBook has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the eMac has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Radeon 9200. In terms of drivers, well they are Macs running Leopard with built in drivers. The eMac has more RAM and about 60% more processor power. Speed does not equal processor power A Ferrari is faster than a train, but which will get 100 tons of freight coast to coast first? after some interesting reading I found your answer the eMac(ppc 7447a) does not have L3 cache, the powerbook(ppc 7455) does The cpu speed only comes into play once the data is actually in the cpu even though the emac has a substantially higher clock speed the powerbook spends less time waiting for data to work on even if you had a 40ghz cpu it would be slow if it took a second to xfer data to the cpu here are some links if you are curious emac specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.25.html powerbook specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_867.html G4 cpu wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4#PowerPC_7447.2F7457_.22Apollo_7.22 cache wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_cache -- I'm a PC AND I RUN LINUX!!! Dean Martin - If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: worth of used imac
Laura Have a look on www.mac2sell.net Simon On 7 Dec 2008, at 02:29, Laura wrote: thanks John. 2 summers ago I upgraded the fan, the hard drive (to a 500gb) the ram (to 2gb), an added airport card and the optical drive, knowing full well I would never get the money back.(It was kind of a trip taking it all apart too!) But I can't really see selling less than $500. Not looking good on the sites I am looking at . Oh well, I guess I will just keep it! I was hoping to get some cash to buy the pretty new BIG imac. Thanks Laura --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Publisher equivalent?
Dan As a Mac user and a graphic designer, I despise Publisher, not only for being a M$ product and for being a very lame excuse for a DTP program. It's like Word with a few extensions and extra tool bars. Simon On 2 Dec 2008, at 20:49, Dan wrote: At 5:27 PM -0800 11/30/2008, Bill Spencer wrote: I am just dipping my toe into the waters and am wondering if there's a viable equivalent to MS Publisher out there? There are quite a few page layout apps available. Which you use depends on your needs, of course. As far as I can tell MS does not make a Mac version, *COUGH* and in an admittedly quick look at Versiontracker I did not see anything comparable. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. As usual my thanks in advance! Again, it depends on your actual needs. My housemates use MS Publisher on a PC to do a pretty bi-monthly newsletter and an annual yearbook for their RV group. Nothing they do cannot be done in AppleWorks. Pages would work too. They use Publisher because he's a PC person and this is her way of getting him to Do Stuff instead of play Spider all day. (that's gotta be the greatest justification I've ever heard for using MS products! ow. my brain hurts now). Ok, I take that back. There are things they can do in Publisher that don't happen on a Mac. Publisher looses data, photo resolution, formatting, and crashes arbitrarily -- totally corrupting the .pub file. Never had that happen in AppleWorks. So I guess that's a joy we've just missed ... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Publisher equivalent?
Dan I use high end / high price products. I use them because of the features that aren't in cheaper products. Do I fall into that 1%. I think that is pretty low, what about all the designers who use Adobe, Quark, Microsoft products, like myself, most of which are Mac users. I do agree a lot of people buy expensive products without realising there are cheaper or free alternatives that would suit their needs. I wrote an article on Office Suites for LowEndMac pointing out this very idea. http://lowendmac.com/ed/royal/08sr/free-office-alternatives.html If you need the features in high end software then go for it, but you should check out free or cheaper alternatives - they may suit your needs and save you money. Simon On 2 Dec 2008, at 21:49, Dan wrote: At 1:07 PM -0800 12/2/2008, MIKO's Support, Design and Development Services wrote: Apple provides Pages with iWork. Pages works great for me! iWork is not very expensive. Adobe provides the VERY expensive inDesign. SOP in any market, although Adobe makes it worse. Most people that buy those high-end / expensive products use only those features that would be found in the less expensive products. Those markets depends on the supidity of their customers to survive. There are a few people, probably 1% of the market, that actually use/need the advanced features. Of course, if the market was actually targetted to just them, they'd never buy the software as it would cost 10billion quatloos per copy at those volumes. MS Word vs AppleWorks, heck... MS Word vs TeachText is a great example. heh. I ran into an interesting marketing coup the other day. A new Mac user that was perfectly happy with the cheaper product, MS Works (not sure of the product name) on his Windoze laptop, absolutely insisted the only equivalent was full-on MS Office ($400 ?) on his new Mac. He was SHOCKED to see what Pages and *cough* NeoOffice could do. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac base screws
Hi I recently upgraded the internal hard drive and optical drive in mine. Quite easy too. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: emac base screws From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22/11/2008 14:35 There are 2 sizes of anything, it either fits, or it doesn't! Yes, I know that feeling really well. I too have an eMac that I have yet to take apart. Garth In a message dated 11/22/2008 1:33:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody know off the top of their head what size allen/hex wrench the screws for the clear/acrylic base takes? I can't find my big set and hate to buy a new set. Charles **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
Dan Please don't lecture me about bottom posting, it is only 'advised' not enforced and it is a very outdated system. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 19 2008, Dan wrote: At 3:07 PM + 11/19/2008, Simon Royal wrote: Please remember to bottom post and trim on these LEM lists. It helps keep things orderly and makes sure that all issues are covered. A bit frustrating, since you only answer some of the questions because of your top posting... No config info. No settings info. No location set-up info. Everything looks fine, everything was working fine when I had WEP turned on. Then I changed the SSID and used WPA. Does it work if you go back to WEP? It only happens when the Mac is first switched on, but not all the time. No, it never happens after sleep and I have automatic login so never have logged in manually. So switched on means a cold boot? By random I mean it will be fine for two or three days, working fine and auto connecting on start up and then the next day it will not. What happens if you change channels? I haven't looked in the system log. Really, everything above is moot. ALL debugging of network problems STARTS with checking the log. Without the information from the log, config, etc, we're just taking shots in the dark here. - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
Dan I didnt mean to offend and I did read all the replies, most didnt make any difference and Im still working through the rest. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20/11/2008 17:15 At 8:17 AM + 11/20/2008, Simon Royal wrote: Dan Please don't lecture me about bottom posting, it is only 'advised' not enforced and it is a very outdated system. Simon, Please go back thru this thread, re-reading every post. You will find that there are questions asked for which you have provided no answers -- why? Because the questions were lost because of top posting. People here have a lot of ideas of how to fix problems but they only work IF we know what problem is. We need details. Without those details - the questions answered - we're just spinning our wheels. 10 posts into this issue and still no solution. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
Chris Yes, but more chances of a different one not working. I look at it as I have 3 fully working Macs with no problems. Also, the problem is completely random, so I could go through this and two days later it happens again. I'd rather not disturb a working network. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still From: Christopher Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20/11/2008 21:45 Hi Simon, I think you are spending far too much time trying to fix this. At this stage, I would be resetting the Airport Extreme to factory defaults and reconfiguring it with an SSID with no spaces and WPA/WPA2 security with no spaces. Then I would be going into each Mac (I think from memory you said there were 4), deleting all the existing network configurations under System Preferences - Network - Advanced - Airport and then reconnecting each Mac to the new Airport network you have just created. Make sure each connects and is able to use the network/ internet before moving to the next. Simpler, less time consuming and more likely to work. cjc On 21/11/2008, at 5:42 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Dan I didnt mean to offend and I did read all the replies, most didnt make any difference and Im still working through the rest. Simon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
Hi I still have not resolved my problem in Leopard. It seems to be Leopard specific as none of my other Macs do it. It just randomly on start up forgets to my wireless network and I have to manually join. I have Googled the problem and it seems a lot of other people have the same problem under Leopard, but no resolve. It started since I changed from WEP to WPA. My SSID is hidden, if I changed this to broadcast SSID would this make any difference. My wife is getting quite annoyed that she has no internet when she turns the Mac on. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
Jim Thanks for the reply, no I only have my access point in the preferred list. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 19 2008, Jim Emery wrote: Hi Simon, I had a similar issue on my laptop. I had a long list of known wireless access points stored in network sytem prefs. I found that culling this list helped the connection establish more reliably. I am not sure if this applies to your situation but thought I'd mention it. Jim On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I still have not resolved my problem in Leopard. It seems to be Leopard specific as none of my other Macs do it. It just randomly on start up forgets to my wireless network and I have to manually join. I have Googled the problem and it seems a lot of other people have the same problem under Leopard, but no resolve. It started since I changed from WEP to WPA. My SSID is hidden, if I changed this to broadcast SSID would this make any difference. My wife is getting quite annoyed that she has no internet when she turns the Mac on. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Self Assigned Airport Extreme
Hi One on my eMacs is playing up this morning. I have 5 machines connected wirelessly and, 3 of which are turned on. My eMac is working fine, my PowerBook is working fine, even my phone is working fine, but the other eMac just keeps getting a self-assigned IP address. I have turned Airport off and on again a number of times, but no change. I have restarted the Mac, but no change. It was working fine yesterday and I have changed nothing. I have another eMac sitting in the same room (both of which are only 10 foot away from the router), which I just turned on and this connects no problem. I have turned it off again. Any ideas. Would turning the router off and on again help? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hello iMac List
Steve I know this. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Hello iMac List From: Steve from Raleigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15/11/2008 02:12 According to the (free) application MacTracker, the only eMac rated at 1.25Ghz was known as the eMac (USB 2.0) and it uses a G4 chip--to be precise, PowerPC 7447/7457 (G4) FYI, it was introduced April, 2004 and discontinued Mauy, 2005. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Forgetting Wireless
Hi I recently updated my wireless settings on my router. I changed the SSID, moved from WEP to WPA and set it to hidden SSID. I have four Macs and a phone connected wirelessly. 2x eMacs running Tiger, an eMac running Leopard and a PowerBook G3 running Tiger, and obviously my Symbian mobile phone. None of the other Macs have a problem, but my eMac running Leopard never remembers the network. When you switch it on, you have to rejoin, yet all the other Macs remember and it is active straight away. I am running 10.5.5 with the latest updates added. Any ideas? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
