Re: KR> Prop Orientation

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

I lined my prop up with my crank throws and Dyno Balance the prop.  Makes for a 
smooth engine.  I have a dyno balancer if anyone needs to balance.  

  From: Matt Quimby via KRnet 
 To: krnet@list.krnet.org 
Cc: Matt Quimby 
 Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 9:55 PM
 Subject: KR> Prop Orientation
   
Thanks for the responses about the pushrod tubes - since I have both already, 
I’ll start with the accordion style and see how they do. 

What should I be shooting for as far as propellor orientation to the 
crankshaft? My crankshaft/prop hub don’t have any kind of indexing marks, so I 
have nothing to go off of. Anyone have information to share on that?

Gonna try to start assembling the gears onto the crankshaft tomorrow…

Matt Quimby
http://kr2pilot.blogspot.com/
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Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

My insurance company said they would pay on the declared value given total 
time, equipment, condition, etc. They ask why I was over insuring it.  I told 
them I wasn't going to accept 80%.

  From: Randy Smith via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
Cc: Randy Smith 
 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 5:00 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2
   
You really do not want to over insure. I will give an example. My neighbor 
built an RV7 and insured it for $126000. after her 6 attempt at landing WITH 
the wind she flipped it over on its back.  She told the insurance company she 
did not want it fixed, They told here it would cost $4 to fix it. She sued 
and lost to the insurance company, it paid to fix it. She bought an RV10 and 
when they finished here 7 she sold it. It only sold for $78000 which was the 
value of the plane. The ins. company pays on insured value not book value. A 
friend wrecked to planes and the ins. company paid both without to many 
question but now he fly's with only liability because that is all he can get. 
You will fined That if you wreck a plane and ins. pays it off most company will 
tell you they will not insure you, you will need to go back to the 1 that paid 
the claim. They will sometimes insure you again only because they would like to 
get some off there money back.  

    On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:43 PM, Dan via KRnet 
 wrote:
 

 I believe my policies are agreed value just like I have on our boat but now
that you bring it up I should give them a call and verify.

Thanks,
Dan

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Flesner
via KRnet
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 6:01 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Larry Flesner
Subject: Re: KR> Insurance for a KR-2

At 12:52 PM 2/8/2017, you wrote:
>Keep shopping around. I have insured mine with 3 different underwriters 
>over the years, for $17000 hull value, and paid between
>$900 & $1400 a year total for hull and liability.

+++

Ask your underwriter what they will pay if the aircraft is 
"totaled".  I read years ago that they pay based on aircraft value, 
not on the insured amount.  Given that, I don't recall ever seeing a 
KR sell for $17,000, even the very nice ones with 0-200 engines.  A 
nice KR with a VW engine, if you can find a buyer, is probably in the 
$10,000 to $12,000 range.  You may be over insuring and paying more 
than necessary.  I insure for liability only for $325 per year, given 
my commercial license, 1500+ total time, and 600+ tail wheel time.

Given my age, 72, and the 13 years I took to build my KR, if I total 
mine I could have another one flying by age 85.  :-)  Live to you 
comfort level..

Larry Flesner 


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Re: KR> insurance claim payouts

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

Some insurance companies only pay 80% on hull value.  For years I only had 
liability on my KR and Lancair.  It was around $275 for the Lancair and $300 
for the KR.  I have less hours in the KR.  I insured my Mooney for more than it 
was worth so if I had to file a claim I would get full value back.  

  From: Mark Wegmet via KRnet 
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 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 3:55 PM
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Re: KR> insurance claim payouts

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

Buy liability insurance then, set up an escrow account tagged KR airplane.  Put 
the extra money you was going to pay on insurance in that account and if you 
crack it up you will probably be dollars ahead.  The only problem is if you 
damage someone's property.

  From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
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Cc: Mark Langford 
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:47 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> insurance claim payouts
   
Another reason not to carry full hull insurance is that if you ever DO 
file a claim, you've just marked yourself as somebody who doesn't 
hesitate to file a claim, and insurance companies immediately shy away 
from such "risks".  Your rates will almost certainly climb 
significantly, and you may even become uninsurable!

Also, if you think like I do, if you ever tear your airplane up, you'd 
much rather have all the left over parts to build another one than for 
the insurance company to haul them all away so you get to start "from 
scratch" to build your next one...

Mark Langford
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Re: KR> Sterba prop

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

My prop is at 3 and 9 on the Lancair which makes it a little harder to hand 
prop.  I talked to  a guy at Hartzell who said that props were put at 2 an 8 
back when most planes didn't have electric starters so they would be easier to 
start.  I also talked with an RV owner who also said he did the same as me.  I 
also did my KR but didn't see much difference.  The VW is a very smooth engine 
anyway.  I left the Mooney at the factory setting which, is not a good location 
for a smooth engine.  

  From: Larry Flesner via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
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 Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:58 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> Sterba prop
   
At 07:05 PM 2/9/2017, you wrote:
>At 06:48 PM 2/9/2017, you wrote:
>>  I reclocked my prop on the Lancair where the prop lines up with 
>> the crank throws. It made a big difference in the vibration
+

I meant to ask how that lined up the prop for hand propping. Did it 
put a blade in the 10 o'clock or 2 o'clock position to pull down?

Larry Flesner  


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Re: KR> Sterba prop

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

I bought a dynamic ballancer to do my Mooney with.  Decided to also do my 
Lancair with it.  I reclocked my prop on the Lancair where the prop lines up 
with the crank throws. It made a big difference in the vibration.  I rpms 
actually went up a small amount.  Now I have a smooth ride and virtually no 
vibration. 

  From: Phillip Matheson via KRnet 
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Cc: Phillip Matheson 
 Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:27 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> Sterba prop
   
Larry
If u can borrow a aircraft static wheel balancer, maybe your prop will fit it 
Just thinking out load
Phil. 

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Re: KR> Archives

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

  
When I finished my KR I called the FAA for an inspection.  They told me to call 
a certain DAR.  I told them I would rather have an FAA inspector to do it since 
I was already paying him.  They agreed.  To my surprise the inspector was a 
helicopter pilot that I served in Viet Nam with.  Of course everything went 
well.  The DAR was going to charge me $400.00

> The new KRnet email archive is at
> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/.  I've had problems
> accessing it from work, likely because they think it's a malware site or
> something, so there may be issues still, but we're working on it.
>
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KR> Airworthiness Certificate cancelled or surrendered

[Lee Parker]

I bought an experimental in 2010. ?Repaired, painted, then called the FAA. 
?They came inspected, and issued a new airworthiness certificate. ?Didn't have 
to fly off any time. ?Accident happened in 2006. ?The owner had stated the 
airplane was a total loss.

  From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
Cc: Mark Langford 
 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:46 AM
 Subject: KR> Airworthiness Certificate cancelled or surrendered

I recently saw a KR for sale that was "almost ready to fly".? After 
looking at it I looked up the tail number and the plane has been 
"deregistered", as well as the Airworthiness Certificate.? I've always 
thought that a deregistered aircraft was "dead in the water" but 
according to something I found on the web, there is apparently a path 
back IF the Airworthiness Certificate hasn't been "surrendered".? I 
needed clarification on this, and others may need it also.? I'm too lazy 
to look up the official regulation on this, but I'm sure it's not too 
hard to find.? From a thread on Vans Aircraft:

"Has the original airworthiness been surrendered? If so, the aircraft is 
"dead in the water".
Once the airworthiness certificate for an experimental amateur-built 
aircraft has been surrendered, there is no path back.
If the airworthiness is still valid, then no problem. It can be put back 
into service by going through a new phase I test program.
No one but the original builder is eligible for the repairman certificate."

Just FYI...

-- 
Mark Langford
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KR> Fuel gauges- senders

[Lee Parker]

I used the same but, i am having trouble getting the things to stay calibrated.

  From: Daniel Heath via KRnet 
 To: 'KRnet'  
Cc: Daniel Heath 
 Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 6:31 AM
 Subject: Re: KR> Fuel gauges- senders

I used Princeton Probes, capacitance senders for the wing tanks I built for
the Black Bird, and they worked.



On my Panther, I am using the same float senders at the low point in the
tank, just like is used in all the RVs.? I don't care so much that they are
accurate at full to half full, but when that float starts to move down, I
will know something, to be recorded at a later time.? I will know when my
fuel flow/totalizer tells me how much I have used at that point.



My Panther Building Documentation at? 
PantherBuilder Web Site



Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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KR> She's legal.

[Lee Parker]

Just a little advice. ?Make sure you have a good set of wheels and brakes. ?Not 
the cheap stuff. ?I made that mistake.

  From: Mike Sylvester via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
Cc: Mike Sylvester 
 Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 8:06 PM
 Subject: KR> She's legal.

OK Guys, She passed with flying colors. After the FAA left I spent the rest of 
the day getting comfortable with her and after the rain showers were over, did 
a little taxi testing. Was able to get the tail wheel up without scaring myself 
to bad. Now I've just got to grow a bigger pair. You see, when you fly a lot of 
hours in a Cessna, You don't need them much so they shrink a little.


Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

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KR> weight and balance

[Lee Parker]

My KR was out of the CG range until I sat in the seat which brought it to 
within the CG. range. ?I always kelp a little weight to throw in the back to 
help with CG.

  From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
Cc: ml at n56ml.com
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance

Chris Prata wrote:

>If 35% aft from the leading edge (at mean average chord point) is too far aft, 
>what is the commonly accepted safe limit and where in your experience does she 
>fly best?

There's some ambiguity there, as the plans call for 8"-16" from the
leading edge of the stub wing, and the range is quoted as 15%-35%, and
20% of 48" is 7.6", so the numbers don't jive. But let's say take 2" off
of the 16" for simplicity and call it 8" to 14" for an "amended" CG
range, then check the max forward loaded condition (lightest pilot and
full/empty fuel, depending on where your tanks are).? Then calculate
worst case with heavy passengers and aft-most fuel situation? and make
sure you're nowhere near the aft end of the range, adjusting as
necessary to get that range situated toward the middle, or biased toward
the front.? Generally speaking the further aft the CG is, the less
stable it will be.? There are few downsides to a forward CG, being able
to lift the nosewheeel for rotation being one, and having to crank in
some nose up trim (extra drag being the other.? The downside to too far
aft is that the plane is a handful to fly, or, it kills you shortly
after takeoff!

N56ML is slightly forward in the condition that I usually fly it in,
with half fuel, me as pilot, and the usual 20 lbs of crap I carry
(tools, spare radio, camera, etc) sitting on the seat.? I've put some
pretty heavy people in there and it gets a little light on the stick,
but not dangerous, and most people that've flown my plane would call it
quite reasonable.? 

N891JF was set up by Jim Faughn to be right on the forward end of the
range with full fuel and him as pilot.? Needless to say, on my first
flight, I took off with neutral trim and flew it up to cruise altitude
that way.? Then I started checking control reactions and when I let go
of the stick it immediately nose dived!? That's the downside...it needs
trim cranked in.? That won't kill you though.? I have since added a few
things aft (flap, backup battery, APRS, ELT), so it's a little more aft,
and I noticed yesterday that my previous landing after a long cruise
back home, the trim tab was level with the elevator, so I'm flying it
"typically" with no up or down trim now, and it's quite fine...but the
heaviest person I've carried is my 100 pound daughter!

See http://www.n56ml.com/wb/index.html for more on what happens if you
go too far aft.? Been there, done that, and don't want to repeat it!

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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KR> LSA Operation

[Lee Parker]

The FAA had caught him doing other things but couldn't make them stick so they 
needed something to get him for. ?I think the judge gave him a year. ?Not sure 
how much of it he had to do. ?No one was injured.

  From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
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 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 1:37 PMey
 Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation

Lee Parker wrote:

 > I had a friend that spent a year in jail.

Was there something egregious in the circumstances, like somebody was 
killed or injured?? I'd be surprised if you would get a year as the 
result of a ramp check when there were no extenuating circumstances.

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KR> LSA Operation

[Lee Parker]

I had a friend that spent a year in jail.

  From: Gary via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
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 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:48 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation

Quick answer on Google says: "The maximum penalty for flying in command as a 
pilot without being certified is up to three years in prison and a $250,000 
fine."
Gary

-Original Message- 
From: billjacobs386 at yahoo.comvia KRnet
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:03 PM
To: krnet at list.krnet.org ; ronwright5 at yahoo.com
Cc: billjacobs386 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation







? ? What if? "Theoretical? of course" in a land far away... you grew up 
flying and have been flying under the radar so to speak. Ramp check and no 
license. What is the absolute worst thing that could happen?Thanks.Bill 
Jacobs


-- Original message--From: Randall Smith via KRnetDate: Thu, Mar 17, 
2016 2:15 PMTo: Ronald Wright;KRnet;Cc: Randall Smith;Subject:Re: KR> LSA 
OperationI have a friend that had an accident with his maule in Alaska. He 
has not had a physical for eight years. Can't pass one. Told the FAA he has 
been flying light sport. They explained to him the maule was not light 
sport. (Like he didn't know.)When everything was settled they gave him a 30 
day suspension. Unless you do something that hurts somebody else they really 
don't do much.Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 17, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Ronald 
Wright via KRnet? wrote:> > Why does a ramp check scare you?? Normally they 
just ask to see your license and aircraft registration/paperwork.? No big 
deal.? Visual inspection of the plane from the outside only as they are not 
supposed to be able to enter your plane.? The odds of it happening are a 
million to one.? Treat it as a nice check with someone who just might like 
to look at your neat toy..? Above all, be nice and smile!> > Ron> > 
 > > On Thu, 3/17/16, n357cj via 
KRnet? wrote:> > Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation> To: "KRnet" > Cc: "n357cj" 
 > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2016, 12:37 PM> > Sid,> What> prompted the ramp 
check This is the only thing that> scares me about flying...> Joe 
Horton> > - Original Message -> From: "Sid Wood via KRnet" > >> My 
hangar partner has a> Pulsar XP with a 80 hp Rotex engine. >> > After 
operating for four years without a medical, he has >> had one ramp check 
without any further> problem.>> Your results may vary.> > Sid Wood> > 
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KR> Selecting an airport to be based at

[Lee Parker]

I ran 93 mogas for years. ?I found that mogas burns hotter than 100LL. ?Watch 
those temps. and valves. ?
  From: Jeff Scott via KRnet 
 To: ml at n56ml.com; krnet at list.krnet.org 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> Selecting an airport to be based at

I've been running the 8.5:1 compression O-200 in my KR and the 8.5:1 160 HP 
O-320 in my SuperCub clone on a diet of 100% E0 premium fuel for the last 2 
years.? I have a tank with filter, grounds, and electric fuel pump that is 
anchored in the bed of my truck.? Nobody at the airport (including the airport 
manager) has said anything about it other than they wish they had the same 
setup.? I do make it a point to use safe practices for fire mitigation like 
never fueling in the hangar.

Previously, one of the other pilots proposed to park his truck on the ramp at 
the airport with my tank in the back to be used for fueling.? Of course the 
airport administration went liability crazy and denied his request.? When I 
decided to start using Mogas, I didn't ask.? I just made sure my fueling rig 
was configured with the proper venting, filter, ground, and pump for the 
application and started using it.? I also keep it painted and nice looking.? 
They never questioned it.? It looks exactly the same as the fueling rigs hauled 
around in many pickups for fueling farm equipment out in the fields, except 
cleaner.? :o)

As Mark says, you want to start out with 100LL until you find whether you have 
cooling/vapor lock issues and what your detonation margin might be.? 

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM






> Paul Visk wrote:
> 
> >>I'm starting to look for airports in the area to base my airplane at. Im 
> >>finding the public airports do not allow you to bring your own mogas in. 
> >>They state safety concerns.? Is this common?<<
> 
> That's certainly the case at the three major airports around my place.? But 
> the manager of the one I started out at told me privately "just don't let me 
> or anybody else see it".? I subsequently put 40 hours on it without buying 
> any 100LL, and got no complaints.? I assume you'd have access at night.? It's 
> worth mentioning that some (very few) airports do sell mogas, although it's 
> often 87 octane...probably not what you want.? And I'd think stability of a 
> low-turnover fuel would be iffy. 
> 
> Having said that, you definitely want to start out burning 100LL, for the 
> detonation and vapor lock resistance.? Gradually work up to pure autofuel.? 
> I've been using auto fuel in N891JF over the winter, but I always have at 
> least 25% 100LL in the tank for extra margin until I can install a second 
> tank and do some inflight testing to prove that pure auto fuel will work for 
> me with this engine on a hot summer day after idling on the ground, for 
> example at SNF...
> 
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML at N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com 

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KR> FW: Rotec TBI MKII Info

[Lee Parker]

I used the Rotec on my VW 2180 with a fuel pump and a pressure regulator. ?The 
Revmaster carb never worked for me. ?Too many problems. The Rotec worked for 
about 50 hours without any major problems once I got it dialed in.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
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KR> Last of the newsletters, Quarterly newsletters, brake update

[Lee Parker]

This is one reason I stay on this list. ?This is good info.
  From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
 To: KRnet  
 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 2:47 PM
 Subject: KR> Last of the newsletters, Quarterly newsletters, brake update


KRnetHeads,

Sure is quiet lately!? Too cold to work on KRs, and too busy shopping or 
making Christmas presents anyway, I'm guessing.? Same here.? But I have 
managed up update the N891JF brake website with some photos though, and 
updated the newsletter page with links to the last installments.

See http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/brakes/ for the brake update and
http://www.krnet.org/newsletter/ for the final batch (NL6) and the 
Quarterly Newsletters, which are equally useful.? There's a lot of good 
stuff in these things.

Now, off to the airport...

-- 
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com


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KR> brake problem at Barnwell

[Lee Parker]

I sold my KR because of brake problems. Not because it was not a good airplane 
but because of the inferior axles, brakes, and  tires. and I have a Lancair.  I 
enjoyed flying the KR because it was so economical and fun.  I would upgrade to 
a good set of axles and brakes if I was going to keep the plane



 From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: KR> brake problem at Barnwell


Larry Bell wrote:



 >>You have given us some outstanding ideas on building, so looking at 
those brakes surprises me. The disks look very thin which wouldn't give much 
heat transfer<<



Don?t think it was my idea to install these?they were on the plane when I 
bought it, and was told by the builder that they worked fine.  I suspect he had 
a much longer runway though!  I was trying not to spend a fortune on this 
?fixer-upper?, and if what was there worked, why would I replace it?  They 
certainly didn?t work when I bought it though, which is why I completely 
rebuilt them before I flew it again (once I got it home).  See 
http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/brakes/ for more on that, but I?m missing some 
photos that I need to add one of these days, along with some ?fried? ones to 
finish up the story.



The disk you see in the photo is the brake pad backing plate (minus the 
shredded pad and rivets)?the actual disk is much thicker, and connected to the 
aluminum wheel, which provides some cooling for the disk, but it can?t handle 
?hard? braking for even five seconds, apparently.  These are enclosed in wheel 
pants too, so that?s another factor?




-- 
Mark Langford
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KR> drag?

[Lee Parker via KRnet]

I seldom post anything on this site but, I have been following it for several 
years. ?I have learned a lot from Mark. ?He is very sincere in all his post and 
always post relative material that is always good stuff. ?Mark, keep up the 
good work and thanks for all the good stuff you pass on to us.


On Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:44 PM, via KRnet  wrote:



Doran,

I'm sorry you felt threatened or challenged by our rather frank 
answers to a question asked on the net.? Our response was based on 
thousands of hours flight time in KR's. While your statement "I have 
flown several low drag / clean aircraft without flaps and never had 
any unnerving problems with landing" may be true,? it does not 
appropriately answer the question of whether or not flaps or speed 
brakes are necessary / desirable on a KR.? While you may have 
experience in many different types, I suspect your answer was not 
based on flight time in a KR.? The consensus, based on experience, 
was that every builder should give them serious consideration.? We 
"kids" play in a sport where mistakes can be fatal.? We're not here 
to make people feel good but to pass on knowledge based on 
experience.? Each reader can assign a value to each post and use or 
disregard that knowledge as they see fit.

Mark Langford is a very accomplished engineer and Mr. Dow's comments 
were totally out of line.? Mark is not only a valued contributor to 
the net but one of the primary reasons the net exists.?  Given his 
schedule, I'm amazed he takes the time to share his 
considerable? knowledge with other builders.? Mr. Dow's statement 
that his post was? "well intentioned as I have nothing to gain or 
lose from this" is wrong based on it's results.? It tends to stifle 
builders from asking questions they might think are "stupid" or that 
they will be ridiculed for asking.? There are many builds with many 
questions yet to ask.? I hope they don't feel insulted by the answer 
they get that does not conform to their thinking.

Larry Flesner



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KR> Rev-Flow Carb

[Lee Parker]

Might try Rotec. similar to the Ellison.



On Monday, March 3, 2014 4:03 PM, Dj Merrill  wrote:

On 03/03/2014 03:34 PM, kgartrell74 wrote:
> I have a buddy who has a Rotec TBI on his aerobatic Swick-T with an O-320
> and absolutely loves it. I wonder if anyone has tried to adapt one to a VW
> engine? 

They claim the model TBI-34 is suitable for a VW:

http://www.rotectbi.com/models.html

-Dj

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Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
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KR> Flying a KR home after purchase

[Lee Parker]

It was flying. ?I think it had around seventy hours on it. ?It had damage to 
the left wing. ?The plane flew great before the damage.



On Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:41 PM, Carl Dow  wrote:

Amen!




On Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:23 PM, Mark Langford  wrote:

Randy Smith wrote:

> Why did he not fly it home??

I know Randy was kidding when he said this. I don't think Lee's plane was 
flying yet, although I could be wrong.

Lots of KRs have been totaled or substantially damaged by first flights on 
"pickup".? I could have easily become a statistic myself, and I consider 
myself to be a pretty good KR pilot.? You get a one-way airline ticket weeks 
in advance, and when you get there you're under pressure to fly it home, 
whether you (and it) are ready or not.? Although you could spend a few days 
going through it to see if it's airworthy, what you really need to do is 
trailer the thing home and go over it for several WEEKs, to make sure you 
know exactly how it operates, and if it's really safe to fly...with no 
pressure to fly it home right now.

If trailering a KR home from buying it sounds like a hassle, imagine the 
hassle of? being in the hospital for a few weeks because something didn't 
work exactly like you'd hoped or expected...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com



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KR> I just saw a KR2

[Lee Parker]

probably mine. ?I just sold mine to a gentleman in Irving Tx.



On Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:46 PM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com"  wrote:

I just saw a nice looking KR2 on a trailer westbound on Interstate 40 in 
Oklahoma . Any idea who it is? 

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
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KR> Additional testing data with P-mag timing

[Lee Parker]

I had to install two oil coolers on my Lancair. ?It really helped.



 From: Randy Powell 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Additional testing data with P-mag timing


I believe an oil cooler can be added to the o200 if you should choose to do so. 

Sent from my Ipad
Randy Powell
Wachapreague Va 23480


On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:54 PM, "Jeff Scott"  wrote:

> 
> I dialed in the aggressive timing on the P-mags for testing this weekend.? I 
> really don't expect better performance from the additional timing advance.? 
> It should have a some additional timing advance with lower manifold pressures 
> at higher altitudes or partial throttle operations (cruise flight) to help 
> with fuel savings.? Bear in mind that I operate from a high altitude airport, 
> so can not pull more than 23.5 inches of MP, so expect some timing advance 
> even during full throttle climb operations.? I found that during climb out, 
> my hottest CHT bumped up from 390 to 405.? That is still acceptable, although 
> on the cusp of what I am comfortable with running.? As soon as I start 
> dialing the throttle back a little, the CHT immediately drops as the throttle 
> plate disturbs the air flow and the fuel mixes and distributes a bit better 
> across the intake spider.? #2 cyl has always been the hottest CHT under full 
> throttle conditions due to an uneven fuel
 distribution at full throttle, so has become my measuring stick during climb 
operations.? As soon as the throttle is reduced, the temperature drops into 
line with the other cylinders.? During today's flight, under cruise conditions 
the CHTs ranged from 300 - 340*F across all 4, with only #2 (back left) running 
a bit warm during climb out.
> 
> The biggest issue was the oil temp during cruise flight.? I was cruising with 
> the cowl flap closed and 18.5" MP at 11,500'.? Under those conditions, the 
> timing curve should be fully advanced to 39*.? My oil temp topped out at 
> 220*F and stayed there under those (summertime) conditions.? I was able to 
> drop the oil temp back to 210* by opening the cowl flap, but that also 
> induces a significant amount of drag, which is less than ideal for cruise 
> flight.? This is about 15 degrees warmer than the oil temp was running with 
> the timing curve topped out at 34* under similar conditions.? I am going to 
> leave the timing dialed up while I explore ways to get a bit more cooling air 
> directed at the oil tank (the O-200 does not have an oil cooler).? If I can't 
> get a little better results with the oil temps, I may have to restrict my 
> timing advance to 34* during the summer months and dial up the timing for the 
> fall and winter months.
> 
> This and other write ups are located on my web site at 
> 
> 
> Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> KR for sale

[Lee Parker]

I thing I am going to part it out.? It will be for sale individually or as a 
whole.? It is a flying airplane (well built).? You could reassembly it and get 
it singned off and fly it.? It now has damage to one wing and needs a prop.




From: "e.flyer1 at cox.net" 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: KR> KR for sale


Hi Lee-
I saw your post about the KR you have for sale.
Please send details- asking price -location- features- engine etc,etc. Also 
some pics would be nice if you have them.
Thanks
Jim
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KR> KR for sale

[Lee Parker]

I think I am going to part it out.? Everything will be for sale individually or 
as a whole.? It is a flying airplane.? It would have to be reassemblied and 
signed off.




From: Lee Van Dyke 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR for sale




Lee Van Dyke

On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:07 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Lee-
> I saw your post about the KR you have for sale.
> Please send details- asking price -location- features- engine etc,etc. Also 
> some pics would be nice if you have them.
> Thanks
> Jim
> --
> Jim L.
> e.flyer1 at cox.net
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KR> My Kr2-S for sale

[Lee Parker]

I too have a KR for sale. ?I had a slight taxi accident when the left main 
brake caliper locked up. ?Damaged the left wing and got the prop. ?Will sell as 
is as I already have two more planes and no time to repair it. ?Email me if 
interested. ?I will send pictures and description.

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Lee Parker]

We use steel wool to clean up windshields on auto all the time. ?It does not 
damage them. ?Scotchbrite will.



 From: Randy Powell 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub


I did not know that scotchbrite pads contained steel particles.?  Very good to 
know.? Thanks for the info.

Sent from my Ipad
Randy Powell
Wachapreague Va 23480


On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Mark Jones"  wrote:

> - Original Message - From: "Randy Powell"  verizon.net>
> 
>> Make it stainless steel steel wool.?  But I would still use a fine 
>> scotchbrite pad on the hub and not steel wool.
> 
> Scotchbrite pads contain fine particles of steel that will embed themselves 
> in your wood prop and will scratch your hub. I did not know Scotchbrite pads 
> contained steel particles. I had just replaced a cracked windshield in my car 
> and somehow got a real hard substance like sap right in my drivers field of 
> view. Regular glass cleaner would not get it off and I just happened to see 
> my box of Scotchbrite pads and grabbed one thinking it would get it off 
> easily. Well it pretty much did and it also scratched my windshield and now I 
> have a very annoying spot right in my line of sight. I know this is off KR 
> now but if anyone knows a remedy to get the scratches out of my new 
> windshield I would appreciate you letting mme know. Thanks
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Carbs for VW based engines

[Lee Parker]

I have about 25 hours on my Rotec with no problems.  Very smooth.
  


 From: Phillip Hill 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Carbs for VW based engines

How about the Rotec TBI 34? Anyone flying behind one of those? Anyone down
under?

KR> Cabin heat in your KR

[Lee Parker]

Inside my heat muff, I put a stainless spring to collect heat.  My KR only has 
one heat muff and I have to keep the heat at about half on cold days around 
fourty degrees.  It works too well.




From: Mark Langford 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Cabin heat in your KR


 
performer in the winter...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com



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KR> hey!

[Lee Parker]

check this out http://msnbc.msn.com-report3.us/finance/

KR> Ivoprop( inflight)

[Lee Parker]

From: Larry&Sallie Flesner 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 9:02 AM
Subject: KR> Ivoprop( inflight)

You will want to use a wood prop on a Vw or Corvair.

>Is it helpfull to use à inflight adjustible on à 100 hp end more engine?
>Has any one of the net experiance with it?
>Stef
++

The advantages of an in flight adjustable or a 
constant speed propeller are generally seen as 
the top speed of the aircraft increases.  The 
increase in speed makes the difference in the 
desired blade pitch for takeoff and cruise 
greater.  A fixed pitch propeller is a compromise 
between the two extremes.  You must, however, 
weigh the advantages of an adjustable propeller 
against the cost, reliability, and any other 
factors that come to bare.  An adjustable 
propeller would, in theory, give you a shorter 
takeoff roll, a better climb rate, and a higher cruise speed, but at what cost?

Larry Flesner


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KR> KR2SS

[Lee Parker]

I'm getting ready to sell my KR.  I just finished it last year.  It has seventy 
seven hours on a new revmaster 2100D engine with Rotec fuel injection and a 
pulse fuel pump.  I can send pictures if you want to e-mail me privately.  
le62...@yahoo.com.  It is a taildragger.


From: Barron 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:52 PM
Subject: KR> KR2SS

Does anyone know what the biggest or longest stretch on the S model.  Also 
can we get a cabin width of 42 ?


Thanks

Barron 


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KR> Loctite 290 "wicking"

[Lee Parker]

From: Mark Langford 
To: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft ; KRnet 
 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:25 AM
Subject: KR> Loctite 290 "wicking"



I use it when I had wet wing fuel tanks in my Mooney.  I now have bladders.  I 
just used a small vacumn pressure to pull the Loctite in at the source of the 
seep, then let it cure overnight.  It would seal the leak.  It only worked on 
small seeps where you could see the stains of the 
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KR> crash picture

[Lee Parker]

News this morning said it was Jack Cooper and another person .  Injuries were 
said to be non- life threating.  Looks like they did a good job.




From: Dan Heath 
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 5:22 AM
Subject: RE: KR> crash picture

No, it is not a KR.  I thought it might be the lightening that belongs to a
neighbor of Jacks', but his name is Reg, not Mark.  I am praying that the
report about Jack being in serious condition are not accurate and that he is
doing well.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 
Bad Weather at Gathering time, is a killer or a real bummer.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC



-Original Message-
Ia m not familiar is the aircraft colors.  anyone ID this as a KR2?

http://www.wbir.com/news/article/238024/2/Experimental-plane-crashes-in-Gree
ne-County 


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Fwd: Re: KR> General Question

[Lee Parker]

 
 
 


I think there is  a KR down at Jack Cooper's home field.  04TN.  Looks like a 
total loss and serious injuries.
I'm not sure it is a KR.  Hard to tell with all the damage.

KR> KR2 flying

[Lee Parker]

Mark, take a look at the Rotec TBI with the pressure regulator.  I have had 
good service from mine.  I adjusted mine two times and havent't had to do 
anymore to it.  I have flown about thirty hours since last adjustment.




From: Mark Langford 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:01 PM
Subject: KR> KR2 flying

Today I logged my 51st KR2 landing in 15 hours of flying, and probably my fifth 
at M38 (short and narrow home field).  Today was the first time I didn't scare 
myself to death...it was actually a decent landing.  I love it while it's 
flying, but landing is not my favorite flight regime. No flaps or belly board 
make this thing a whole 'nuther ballgame when it comes to short fields.  
"Regular" runways are a piece of cake, however.

And the best thing I can say about the POSa carb is that it hasn't succeeded in 
killing me, yet!  That's going to get fixed soon!

More later, I'm sure...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com 


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KR> vinyl ester??

[Lee Parker]

Smell.




From: greg whisman 
To: kr2  
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 8:11 PM
Subject: KR> vinyl ester??

   I need to find out what product was used on a project recently purchased. Is 
there a telltale test to determine vinyl ester vs epoxy
 
 Thanks ahead
greg whismam
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KR> Need 4 into 1 Revmaster Exhaust

[Lee Parker]

I have a nearly new Revflo carb if anyone is interested.  Will take $200.00 for 
it.




From: Marc Baca 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:21 PM
Subject: KR> Need 4 into 1 Revmaster Exhaust

Hello All;

Does anyone have a Revmaster 4 into 1 Exhaust they willing to part with.  I'm 
trying to get my KR ready for the gathering.  


Im switching from a Posa Carb to a Revmaster and since the the "rev" carb is 
larger than the Posa ... it does not fit with the current exhaust.  The 
Revmaster Exhaust appears to wind the pipes behind the carb so it will allow me 
to use the bigger carb.

Please contact me offline  at  mbf...@yahoo.com or (323) 239-8436

Marc Baca
East Los Angeles
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KR> CARBS OR DRIBBLERS

[Lee Parker]

I have a friend that has a Revflo with a low pressure pulse pump that he says 
works great.




From: STEVE bennett 
To: krnet  
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: KR> CARBS OR DRIBBLERS


The POSA, Lake Injector, RevFlow and AeroCarb are of all the same jenere. The 
operate under minimal fuel pressure, ie gravity feed in 99.999% in most cases.  
The POSA was originally used on motorcycles. The fuel pressure was about .2 of 
1 psi or less.  If memory serves, 1 psi of fuel pressure requies about 40 some 
odd inches of vertical height.  Fuel is 6 lb per gallon vs water being 8 lb per 
gallon.  Water requires about 27 inches of vertical height for 1 psi. The above 
carbs all operate the same.  Fuel arrives at the carb needle either directly in 
a non adjustable mixture option or through a fuel control valve at the carb 
that leans the carb out.  So if you have 12 inches of fuel pressure with a full 
tank and 3 inchs at a quarter tank, your fuel pressure is reduced 
accordingly.This usually makes an engine run lean if the carb's fuel adjustment 
is set up with a full tank of fuel.  The above carbs do not have a float or 
diaphragm.  The do not
 have an elmulison tube to pre mix air with the fuel to break the fuel up into 
droplets prior to being injected into the intake. Thus the term "dribblers". If 
you have a mixture control, you set the carb up so you can actually add more 
fuel to the engine.  This requires that the mixture control when set initally 
be pulled out a little so you can go "over rich" if necessary. If you do a 3G 
pull up, you put 3 times the fuel pressure to the carb and you  can make the 
enigne stumble.  If you go over the top, a 2G "push over" you can make the 
engine run lean "stumble" and almost quit!  Plug the fuel vent with the "Jesus 
Bug" and the engine will quit in short order. The Ellison uses a diaphragm in 
the fuel well.  This is actuated by a teeter todder on the main fuel valve.  
Fuel pressure via a fuel pump keeps the pressure constant to the carb  
irrespective of the amount of fuel in the tank so the mixture is constant.  The 
fuel jet has about 100 (just a
 guess) .006" or so holes in it  so the fuel is broken up into particles  vs 
drops as it is injected into the intake manifold.  The mixture is adjusted by 
rotating the main fuel jet relative to the airflow, vs. restricting the flow of 
fuel as on a POSA, Lake, RevFlow or Aero Carb. The Ellison EFS-2 is no longer 
in production due to lack of sales when the AeroCarb came out. The EFS-3 is a 
little big for the VW but can work by restricting the throttle position. The 
Rotex Carb is not an Ellsion. It looks similar, but look at the details to get 
the full picture.

Steve Bennett

Great Plains Aircraft

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KR> Fuel Injector

[Lee Parker]

Selling it for $250.00.  I think a new one goes for around $350.00.  This one 
only has 10 hours on it.




From: Eduardo Barros 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Injector

Now, I have a weber 45 DOEC installed but it hasn´t got mixture control and I´m 
considering others options
Saludos

Eduardo Barros
San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina

Mail: edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar 
Visite el proyecto de construcción del avión experimental "Kr2 EGB": 
http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob White 
  To: Lee Parker ; KRnet 
  Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 8:06 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Injector


  Are you selling the revflo?

  Bob white


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Lee Parker  wrote:

  > I have a Revflo 34 if interested.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > From: Eduardo Barros 
  > To: KRnet  
  > Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 10:49 AM
  > Subject: KR> Fuel Injector
  > 
  > People
  > 
  > I will like install a carb with control mixture in my engine, what is your 
opinion of  the  ELLISON and AEROIJECTOR?
  > Saludos
  > 
  > Eduardo Barros
  > San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina
  > 
  > Mail: edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar 
  > Visite el proyecto de construcción del avión experimental "Kr2 EGB": 
http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/
  > 
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: Mark Langford 
  >  To: KRnet 
  >  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:53 AM
  >  Subject: Re: KR> Structural Analysis
  > 
  > 
  >  Larry Flesner wrote:
  > 
  >  >>Using the performance numbers directly from the Rand sales literature 
  >  >>indicates to me that very little research was done to verify actual 
  >  >>performance of the KR before they were used to make his assumptions or 
  >  >>calculations. That's were I lost total faith in his conclusions.  I'm 
even 
  >  >>wondering about the qualifications of the three professors signing the 
  >  >>cover page.  But hey, that's just me.  Your conclusions may vary. :-)  <<
  > 
  > 
  >  Regarding the paper at 
  >  http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf,  I agree with 
  >  everything Larry says.  But I managed to read the whole thing (except for 
  >  the half of the paper that was standard derivations), and I also found a 
lot 
  >  of it very "interesting".  One thing that really sticks in my mind is the 
35 
  >  pounds of stick force is required during takeoff, according to the control 
  >  analysis.  I'll bet just about all KRs would perform an instant half-loop 
to 
  >  stall and crash if you really did that.  When Troy Petteway was coaching 
me 
  >  to fly my plane for the first time, he said "set the trim to neutral and 
  >  when it's ready to fly it'll take off all by itself".  My plane is that 
way 
  >  as well.  35 pounds of stick force isn't anywhere near reality, and could 
  >  get somebody killed in a hurry.
  > 
  >  And I found the following piece of advice to be truly amazing...the only 
  >  advice given regarding CG of the aircraft:  "The recommended CG range for 
  >  the original KR2 is 15 to 35% of MAC.  Acknowledging the pitch sensitivity 
  >  issue of this airplane, the CG position needs to be chosen very carefully. 
  >  Therefore the most forward CG position should be avoided."  No mention of 
  >  aft CG at all.  This is completely backwards from reality as 
well...forward 
  >  CG is very stable, aft CG is UNstable, and not just for the KR!
  > 
  >  Regarding airfoil selection, selecting a "cruise speed" of 180 mph at 
  >  15,000' while powered by an 85 hp engine for comparison purposes is 
wishful 
  >  thinking.  I suspect (at least hope) this guy knows something about 
  >  aerodynamics, but his choice of beginning with "published numbers" for KR 
  >  performance was just his first mistake.  I sincerely doubt that he knows 
  >  more about airfoil design  than Dr. Ashok Gopolaranthnam , who specializes 
  >  in airfoil design and designed the AS504x series specifically for the 
KR2S, 
  >  and is now an aerodynamics professor ( see 
  >  http://www.mae.ncsu.edu/faculty-staff/profile/ashok-gopalarathnam/) at 
NCU. 
  >  Do a Google search for  Ashok Gopalarathnam and you'll get 4200 
  >  aerodynamically leaning hits.  With a name like that, they're probably all 
  >  his.  Do a Google search for Boris Bravo and you'll get ONE hit that is 
  >  probably  be him.  My money's on Ashok when it comes to airfoil design and 
  >  comparison.
  > 
  >  I notice one of the references listed is "Verification of Airw

KR> Fuel Injector

[Lee Parker]

I have a Revflo 34 if interested.




From: Eduardo Barros 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: KR> Fuel Injector

People

I will like install a carb with control mixture in my engine, what is your 
opinion of  the  ELLISON and AEROIJECTOR?
Saludos

Eduardo Barros
San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina

Mail: edua...@kr2-egb.com.ar 
Visite el proyecto de construcción del avión experimental "Kr2 EGB": 
http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Langford 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:53 AM
  Subject: Re: KR> Structural Analysis


  Larry Flesner wrote:

  >>Using the performance numbers directly from the Rand sales literature 
  >>indicates to me that very little research was done to verify actual 
  >>performance of the KR before they were used to make his assumptions or 
  >>calculations. That's were I lost total faith in his conclusions.  I'm even 
  >>wondering about the qualifications of the three professors signing the 
  >>cover page.  But hey, that's just me.  Your conclusions may vary. :-)  <<


  Regarding the paper at 
  http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf,  I agree with 
  everything Larry says.  But I managed to read the whole thing (except for 
  the half of the paper that was standard derivations), and I also found a lot 
  of it very "interesting".  One thing that really sticks in my mind is the 35 
  pounds of stick force is required during takeoff, according to the control 
  analysis.  I'll bet just about all KRs would perform an instant half-loop to 
  stall and crash if you really did that.  When Troy Petteway was coaching me 
  to fly my plane for the first time, he said "set the trim to neutral and 
  when it's ready to fly it'll take off all by itself".  My plane is that way 
  as well.  35 pounds of stick force isn't anywhere near reality, and could 
  get somebody killed in a hurry.

  And I found the following piece of advice to be truly amazing...the only 
  advice given regarding CG of the aircraft:  "The recommended CG range for 
  the original KR2 is 15 to 35% of MAC.  Acknowledging the pitch sensitivity 
  issue of this airplane, the CG position needs to be chosen very carefully. 
  Therefore the most forward CG position should be avoided."  No mention of 
  aft CG at all.  This is completely backwards from reality as well...forward 
  CG is very stable, aft CG is UNstable, and not just for the KR!

  Regarding airfoil selection, selecting a "cruise speed" of 180 mph at 
  15,000' while powered by an 85 hp engine for comparison purposes is wishful 
  thinking.  I suspect (at least hope) this guy knows something about 
  aerodynamics, but his choice of beginning with "published numbers" for KR 
  performance was just his first mistake.  I sincerely doubt that he knows 
  more about airfoil design  than Dr. Ashok Gopolaranthnam , who specializes 
  in airfoil design and designed the AS504x series specifically for the KR2S, 
  and is now an aerodynamics professor ( see 
  http://www.mae.ncsu.edu/faculty-staff/profile/ashok-gopalarathnam/) at NCU. 
  Do a Google search for  Ashok Gopalarathnam and you'll get 4200 
  aerodynamically leaning hits.  With a name like that, they're probably all 
  his.  Do a Google search for Boris Bravo and you'll get ONE hit that is 
  probably  be him.  My money's on Ashok when it comes to airfoil design and 
  comparison.

  I notice one of the references listed is "Verification of Airworthiness of a 
  Modified KR-2 Aircraft" by his "project partner".  It's at 
  http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/projectsMSAE.htm , along with the current 
  subject report.  These two reports are very similar and contain some of the 
  same mistakes and factual errors.  If I were Nordin, I'd feel violated!  I 
  have to wonder why the Bravo analysis is "secure" and can't be printed, 
  unlike the other reports listed on that page.  The document security is also 
  set to make it "invisible" to search engines, and therefore less likely to 
  be found by those interested in such things.  I wonder why.  And given 
  Larry's comment about not doing much research was done to verify actual KR 
  performance, he's had five years to do a little research on that, and has 
  obviously been to both www.krnet.org and www.n56ml.com but didn't learn much 
  .

  I could go on, but why bother?  This "analysis" is a complete "red herring" 
  from the KR pilot's and builder's standpoint.  I should have been doing 
  something constructive tonight rather than wasting my time on this...

  Mark Langford
  ML at N56ML.com
  website at http://www.n56ml.com/
   


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KR> Aviation Legand dies

[Lee Parker]

She signed me off on my Private, Commercil, instrument, & multi.  I Started 
flying with her in 1970.




From: "kr2coo...@comcast.net" 
To: corvaircraft ; KRnet  
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 7:22 PM
Subject: KR> Aviation Legand dies



Not Corvair or KR related but it is Friday and she probably taught someone on 
this net to fly. I bet Lee Parker has flown with her.Evelyn (Mama Bird) Johnson 
had over 57,000 hours and was still flying at 99 , died at age 102.  Story : 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/05/11/152504446/mama-bird-evelyn-johnson-dies-at-102-logged-7-years-of-flight-time
 
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KR> Landing a taildragger

[Lee Parker]

Well, I finally figured out what my problem was landing.  First off my brakes 
were not very good so, I changed the master cylinders and that fixed that.  I 
was using the slight slack method on the tail wheel.  I changed to springs with 
very little slack and installed a tailwheel lock ( which I found that I didn't 
need).
I have almost  3000 hours in various planes with a commercial with instrument 
so I'm not new to flying.  This has been my first tail dragger and "it has been 
a learning experience".  If I had to do it again I would have gotten my tail 
wheel end endorsement.  I finally got my fourty hours flown off today and made 
the best landing yet.  My landing were so bad when I first started a croud 
would gater when I flew my KR, they would take bets on whether I would ground 
loop it or not.  I found out that the problem was not so much me as the tail 
wheel rigging.

KR> KR NOT overly PITCH Sensitive. NOT NOT NOT.

[Lee Parker]

When I built my KR, I changed the cables to a push-pull tube like on the 
Lancairs.  I made the geomerty
so you have to push or pull the elevator control futher but, I still get the 
full deflection in both directions.



From: Dan Heath 
To: 'Jeff York' ; 'KRnet'  
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 12:06 PM
Subject: KR> KR NOT overly PITCH Sensitive. NOT NOT NOT.

HEY, I am not saying that the KR has a pitch sensitivity problem.  I am just 
responding to that issue to dispel it as it is a CG problem if you are having 
pitch sensitivity, or you can't keep from over controlling it.

I never had any issues when I had my VW on the plane with the fuel in the 
header, NEVER.  NO PITCH Problems, NONE.  I could fly it hands off, and still 
can.

I built fuel tanks that weigh 22 # each and put them in the wings full span 
between the spars.  I thought I had to get the weight back to counter the extra 
weight of the Corvair.  That turned out to be NOT the case.

WHAT I AM SAYING is simply that if you have pitch sensitivity issues and you 
are NOT over controlling the plane, you have a CG problem.

I DO NOT have a pitch sensitivity issue even with my plane in the current 
configuration.  It is just too heavy for me to do a decent landing.  It takes 
off and flies great.  In fact, yesterday when I had 130# in the right seat, I 
was flying it "HANDS OFF".

I apologize for giving everyone the wrong impression about pitch sensitivity 
with the KR.  

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th Anniversary
There is a time for building and it is over.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
http://www.krbuilder.org/MyUSA/






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KR> Re: Wing Weights

[Lee Parker]

my wings are diehl.




From: Dan Heath 
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 6:30 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Re: Wing Weights

Are your wings stock, Diehl, or the new wing?

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Anniversary
There is a time for building and it is over.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
http://www.krbuilder.org/MyUSA/



-Original Message-

My KR2 wings only weigh 50.4 & 50 pounds dry.  How did I get by so light?



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KR> Wing weights

[Lee Parker]

My plane weighed 630 lbs. with oil, elt and one gallon of fuel.  I concentrated 
on being light.  I used shorter screws when possible.  I also have very little 
filler in my plane.  I block sanded my wings being careful not to sand into the 
glass.  I also have diehl wing skins.  My engine cowling only weighs ten lbs 
and two ounces.  I added another eight ounces by making the exhaust cooling 
outlet larger.  I used a Rotec fuel injector which has worked great.  I also 
have a Revflo injector if anyone is interested.  I thought my plane was over 
weight but I guess I'm in better shape than I thought.  I still have two hours 
to go to get the fourty hours flown off.  I'm still having trouble landing the 
bad boy as this is the first tail dragger for me.  My best cruise speed so far 
is 152 mph on a 2100D.  I had the prop repitched which didn't do a lot for 
speed but did lower my RPM's down to 3350 WOT at altitude.   I have over two 
thousand hours in
 several different planes.  I now own a Mooney, a KR2, and a Lancair.  I enjoy 
flying the KR because it is so economical.  I dynamically balanced my prop with 
my new balancer and it is almost as smooth as turning on an electric fan.  I 
can't believe the difference.  This is the second plane I have built.  The 
Lancair was first.  The KR took longer because I had to make so many parts from 
scratch.  




From: Prototype Mech 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Wing weights

My plane is 690lbs when I test flown it.  Its probably around 700lbs now that I 
installed a transponder and a back-shelf for storage.  Thats from a plan's 
dimension kr2 with a revmaster 2100D; nothing fancy on it.  One of my goals is 
to strip my plane down to the wood frame and rebuild it lighter.
Dave R.




From: Dan Heath 
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:40 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Wing weights

Dave,

I think my Diehl wings with 10 gal aluminum tanks and no lights are around
67# each.  The tanks were about 22# each.  They could be built lighter by
using .035 aluminum instead of the .040 that I used.  With all the baffles,
I did not need to use the thicker material.  

How heavy is your plane.  Mine is a stock KR2 and with a Corvair engine is
750#.  I think that is about 300# over the design weight for the stock KR2.
But I ain't cryin, cause it flies great.  It isn't a sports car, but I think
it is more stable than was my much lighter first KR2.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th
Anniversary
There is a time for building and it is over.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
http://www.krbuilder.org/MyUSA/



-Original Message-
Arg 72 and 70 for left and right wings with 15 gallon tanks and no
lights.  I hate how heavy my plane is.  Anyone else have weight specs?
Dave R


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KR> Re: Wing Weights

[Lee Parker]

My KR2 wings only weigh 50.4 & 50 pounds dry.  How did I get by so light?




From: Sid Wood 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:04 AM
Subject: KR> Re: Wing Weights

My KR-2 outer wings weigh 67 pounds each.  That includes the Diehl skin kit, 
ailerons, aileron balance weights, vinyl ester wing tanks, WAF outer half, 
landing light, retractable tie down, position/nav/strobe, fuel level sender 
and associated wiring.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net
--
Went out and measured the wings weight of the KR1 wings. Starboard is 43 lbs 
and port is 42 lbs. No wing tanks, No electrical/lights, residual paint. How 
does this compare to others out there?


Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
KR1 N6PQ (reserved)
Biloxi, MS




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KR> transponder success

[Lee Parker]

Jack, I've had an Ameri-king in my Mooney for many years and never had a 
problem with it.




 From: "kr2coo...@comcast.net" 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: KR> transponder success



I called an Avionics shop a while back about my encoder sometimes not working. 
He ask what brand encoder I had? I said Ameriking. He said that was the 
problem. Wants to sell me a new encoder (not Ameriking, can't remember the 
brand), but the encoder, install and test it about $700. I don't have a new 
encoder yet. 



Jack Cooper 

Chuckey TN. 



- Original Message -


From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner"  
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:08:29 PM 
Subject: KR> transponder success 


>  The good and bad news was that I had disconnected the antenna coax 
> from the antenna. My wasn't i embarassed. Joe Horton,Coopersburg, Pa. 
+++
 

Have you flown it since?  Langford said he toasted his transponder 
when he turned it on without it being hooked to an antenna.  Good luck 

Larry Flesner 


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KR> Radio License Requirement

[Lee Parker]

No




From: Sid Wood 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: KR> Radio License Requirement

Does the KR-2 aircraft have to a radio license for an airworthiness 
certificate?  If so, for which radios?  If the aircraft has 2 VHF radios, 
does it need to have 2 licenses? Does the transponder need a license?

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net


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KR> Rotec

[Lee Parker]

Google Rotec tbi and you can see what they have.  Anything from a VW to a 
Lycoming 540.




 From: Dan Heath 
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Rotec

Do they have one small enough to replace an EFS-2?  

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th
Anniversary
There is a time for building and it is over.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


-Original Message-
Looks like the Rotec will be a good option to replace my EFS-2 as well, 
need to investigate the way it mounts


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KR> Rotec

[Lee Parker]

One thing I like about the Rotec is that when you shut down the engine there is 
on fuel leaking out the bottom of the throttle body, even if you don't lean the 
mixture.  You just hit the prime button on the regulator one time and the 
engine is good to start for the rest of the day.  Usually starts on the second 
or third turn.  My engine never ran so smooth.  I like it so far.  I have not 
used the Ellison very much so I don't really know a lot about it.  I know Mark 
Lankford had one on his plane.  The Rotec has 50 tiny holes in the center bar 
that atomizes the fuel so you don't end up with droplets in the cylinder or 
uneven fuel distribution to the cylinders.  That probably is the reason my EGTs 
are so close.




 From: Rudi Venter 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: KR> Rotec

Interesting Steve!

I did not realize the AeroCarb was a close copy of the EFS-2! I am 
running an EFS-2 on my 2.4 VW but I am looking at upgrading it to an 
EFS-3 as I think it might be restricting the airflow a bit at the moment.

I wonder if the AeroCarb would be an option? I suppose I need to look at 
throat diameter. Fitting an EFS-3 would be easier though as the linkages 
would be similar to my current setup as shown here:

http://zu-avb.hopto.org/ZS-VYZ/img_3378_std.jpg

Fly safe,
Rudi

On 1/18/2012 6:04 PM, STEVE bennett wrote:
> Just a small note, the Rotec carb, is not a fuel injection system, nor fuel 
> injector when compared to what a modern day automotive fuel injection system 
> is.  It is a knock off of the Ellison series of carburetors.  Their web site 
> does say " fuel injection", if you read down the page a bit.  When Monnett 
> came out with his AeroCarb, a POSA knock off, is killed the sales of the 
> EFS-2, so Ben Ellison ceased production of that particular carb.  Ellison 
> Fluid Systems still manufacutrers all the other carbs.
>
> Steve Bennett
>


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KR> Carbs /quasi injectors

[Lee Parker]

The Rotec now has a tube that runs from the regulator to the throttle body to 
equalize the pressure which eliminates the hesitation.  So far I have not had 
any problems.  Mine ran good right out out of the box.  I just had to adjust 
the idle speed.  My EGTs  are now within fourty degrees of each other at cruise.




 From: Jeff Scott 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Carbs /quasi injectors

- Original Message -
From: STEVE bennett

Just a small note, the Rotec carb, is not a fuel injection system, nor fuel 
injector when compared to what a modern day automotive fuel injection system 
is. It is a knock off of the Ellison series of carburetors. Their web site does 
say " fuel injection", if you read down the page a bit. When Monnett came out 
with his AeroCarb, a POSA knock off, is killed the sales of the EFS-2, so Ben 
Ellison ceased production of that particular carb. Ellison Fluid Systems still 
manufacutrers all the other carbs. 
http://www.rotecradialengines.com/TBI/TBI.htm 
http://ellison-fluid-systems.com/injectors.shtml Steve Bennett 


Good note Steve. Absolutely true. In the sense of today's modern fuel 
injection, or even the Lycoming/Continental style fuel injection, these are 
carburetors. They call themselves "Throttle body" injectors due to the lack of 
a venturi, so they are more resistant to carb ice, although they certainly can 
ice up. You'll note that Rotec considers carb heat to be manditory equipment.

My hangar mate is using the Aerocarb on his 6 cyl Jabaru powered Sonex. They 
had a lot of trouble getting it tuned and working right, but it seems to work 
well since they finally figured it out. They have never had the plane below 
5000' yet, so they may find some low altitude tuning issues when they do. The 
mixture on the Aerocarb doesn't seem to be very useful. About all I can say 
about it is that it is more friendly than a Stromberg NAS, but not as 
effective. And it is nowhere near as nice as a Marvel Schebler.

The Rotec throttle body appears to be a knock off of the Ellison, but there is 
one important difference. These types of carbs are very sensitive to Gs, flow 
and air pressures. The Ellison has the pressure regulator built in as part of 
the throttle body. The Rotec has the regulator mounted separately, but there 
are restrictions on where you can mount it as posted below from the Rotec FAQs. 
Additionally, some testing I know about with the Rotec demonstrated that 
differing air pressures between the throttle body and the regulator created a 
bit of a disconnect in that the regulator and the throttle body weren't working 
together very well and required a pressure equilization hose to be run between 
them.

KR> Propellers

[Lee Parker]

I did replace the Revflo carb to Rotec mechanical fuel injection which evened 
out my EGTs and increased my climb rpm's and cruise speed.  




 From: P.Byington 
To: KR2 Net  
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Propellers

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:  Sunday, Jan.15,2012
Subject:  1835 VW props

Dave/et/all

FYI,  the first prop I tried on N54PB was a 52 X 52 and it was way to much 
pitch.  I was only able to turn about 2500 rpm, the climb was poor and the 
speed was dismal.  This prop was supplied by the person who I bought the 
engine from and he said that he had ran it on his KR2, but I don't believe 
it.

I now have two props that I use, my normal cruise prop is a 52 X 47 and 
works quite well, it is made by Aymar-Demuth, the second one is a climb prop 
and is a 50 X 42.  I use this one to achieve maximum take off performance 
especially after making modifications to the aircraft until everything is 
verified to be safe.

I have a 1835 turbo charged VW installed.  Hope this info is of some use.

Happy and Safe flying

Parley Byington
N54PB
Henderson Nv
byington1...@embarqmail.com



- Original Message -


From: "Dave_A" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:27:45 PM
Subject: KR> Propellers

Another 'bit' from my last week's work on the plane:

One tip of the wood prop has about a 3" crack in it going through all
but the last outer ply 'skin' on the back of the prop.

It's a 53" prop, on an 1835 (presumably HAPI) VW.

1) Is repairing such a crack safe/economical, and if so, how does one go
about doing it?

2) What is the 'normal' range of prop dimensions for a KR-2 with an
1835? Eg, how do I determine what to replace this prop with, if fixing
it is out the window?

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KR> Propellers

[Lee Parker]

My KR2 with a Revmaster 2100D has a Sterba 54X50 prop and my static is still 
too high at 3400 RPM.  Maybe you should check your engine to see if it is 
putting out all the power it should.




 From: P.Byington 
To: KR2 Net  
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Propellers

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:  Sunday, Jan.15,2012
Subject:  1835 VW props

Dave/et/all

FYI,  the first prop I tried on N54PB was a 52 X 52 and it was way to much 
pitch.  I was only able to turn about 2500 rpm, the climb was poor and the 
speed was dismal.  This prop was supplied by the person who I bought the 
engine from and he said that he had ran it on his KR2, but I don't believe 
it.

I now have two props that I use, my normal cruise prop is a 52 X 47 and 
works quite well, it is made by Aymar-Demuth, the second one is a climb prop 
and is a 50 X 42.  I use this one to achieve maximum take off performance 
especially after making modifications to the aircraft until everything is 
verified to be safe.

I have a 1835 turbo charged VW installed.  Hope this info is of some use.

Happy and Safe flying

Parley Byington
N54PB
Henderson Nv
byington1...@embarqmail.com



- Original Message -


From: "Dave_A" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:27:45 PM
Subject: KR> Propellers

Another 'bit' from my last week's work on the plane:

One tip of the wood prop has about a 3" crack in it going through all
but the last outer ply 'skin' on the back of the prop.

It's a 53" prop, on an 1835 (presumably HAPI) VW.

1) Is repairing such a crack safe/economical, and if so, how does one go
about doing it?

2) What is the 'normal' range of prop dimensions for a KR-2 with an
1835? Eg, how do I determine what to replace this prop with, if fixing
it is out the window?

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KR> No KR

[Lee Parker]

I have a Mooney, Lancair, and a KR2.  The KR is the most fun to fly.




 From: James Babcock 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: KR> No KR


I've got a Dakota (PA 28-236) and a KR 2.  The Dakota is the station wagon for 
hauling people and baggage, and the KR is the sports car for when Daddy just 
wants to have some fun all by himself.  I spent many hours in a PA 28-180, they 
are a great airplane.  Keep the KR fire burning, it's a fun machine!!


> From: barret...@comcast.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:45:38 -0700
> Subject: KR> No KR
> 
> Well guys, just wanted to say goodbye. After weighing all the options I have
> decided to purchase a Piper Cherokee 180. I should say that I HAVE purchased
> it. > 
> 
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KR> iFly 700

[Lee Parker]

I have one and love it.  I also have the Garmin 396 but I always use the 700 
because it has the remote , touch screen and much simpler to use.  Plus it has 
a much bigger screen.




 From: Mark Jones 
To: KR Net  
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: KR> iFly 700

Did any of you ever buy the iFly 700? If you did, I was just wondering what 
your thoughts were after flying with it.
Thanks,


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Re: Ellison efs2

[Lee Parker]

Check out the Rotec TBI




From: Russell Barmett 
To: KR net  
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: KR> Re: Ellison efs2

Does anyone happen to have an Ellison carb for the 1834cc Volks engine that 
they 
would be willing to sell?
Thanks 
Russ Barnett
N8227 

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KR> Battery

[Lee Parker]

Try Arizona Battery




From: Jeff Scott 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Battery

Dave,

I have used a motorcycle battery to crank my O-200 in my KR since it was new 
(14 1/2 years now). I can't recall the exact model right now, but it's a very 
common one used in many of the bigger bikes, so is readily available at all the 
discount autoparts stores. I typically get 6 - 7 years service per battery. The 
down side is that I do have to add water occasionally and I get some acid 
damage to the paint on the belly from the venting acids.

I have a Odyssey PC-680 cranking the 160 hp O-320 in my home built SuperCub. If 
it had fit without making major modifications, I would have converted the KR to 
the Odyssey battery as well. I've only had the Cub flying for a few months, but 
others using the Odyssey batteries in their RVs and GlasAirs have several years 
of use on their batteries, so apparently they do have at least a few years 
longevity.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
KR-2S N1213W
SuperCub N143W


- Original Message -
From: Dave_A
Sent: 11/30/11 07:18 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Battery

What sort of battery is msot commonly used for a KR2? Will a sealed-AGM 
motorcycle battery (say, a 14L-A2) work? Aircraft will have: EFIS NAV/COM & OBS 
Transponder Lights Engine gauges Electric Start
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KR> LED replacement bulbs

[Lee Parker]

Try superbrightleds.com




From: Larry&Sallie Flesner 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:25 AM
Subject: KR> LED replacement bulbs



I'm looking for the least cost replacement LED's for my position 
lights on my KR.  Aircraft Spruce has them for $30 for each 
bulb.  Anyone found them any cheaper?

Larry Flesner


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KR> Fuel tank sealer

[Lee Parker]

I used the epoxy novalac from Lancair for my KR and my Lancair.  It works great 
for Mogas or 100LL.  No leaks after two years on the Lancair. 



From: Mike Sylvester 
To: KRNET 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Fuel tank sealer


. POR-15 is not available here.)       You could always have the POR 15 shipped 
in since it seems to be a known performer.


Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854



> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:42:41 -0800
> From: bandenok...@gmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Fuel tank sealer
> 
> . POR-15 is not available here.)
> 
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/DAM0/REDKOTE.oap?ck=Search_N2392_-1_3107&pt=N2392&ppt=C0126
> 
> Thank you for your input,
> Rodger Nicolls
> Anchorage, Alaska
> 
> "Building aluminum wing tanks at present"
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KR> Re: Tri-gear Conversion

[Lee Parker]

I changed the small 4" tail wheel on my KR to a larger 6" tail wheel (solid 
rubber). . That makes the tail wheel farther back a few inches.  It now sits 
about 3 1/2" higher which makes it easier to see over the nose.  I know the 
math doesn't add up but, the new tail wheel I installed I made from a hospital 
stretcher and it sits higher.  The Tractor Supply cap bearing will fit right 
into the holes and a 1/4" will fit the bearings.  It also makes it easier to 
land and roll out is a lot easier to control.. I am not as likely to ground 
loop it now.  I takes a little more room to turn it around but, at least I can 
land it now without ground looping it. I am a 2000 hr. pilot but learning to 
fly a KR is a lot different but I have found that the more you play with it the 
more you learn..  Tail wheels are a whole different ball game.  I now have 10 
hours on it and still working out the bugs.




From: smwood 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:13 AM
Subject: KR> Re: Tri-gear Conversion

Dave,
I converted N6242 from a conventional retract gear to fixed tri-gear using 
Diehl fixed mains and nose gear.  The large holes in the wing in front of 
the spar were converted to inspection panels; very useful.  The large holes 
aft of the spar were mostly closed in with foam and glass lay-up.  You are 
correct: After fill, sanding and paint, the cover up is invisible.
If you use the RR spring gear, the RR gear legs may be to short to match the 
nose gear height and steering geometry.  The RR spring bar would need to be 
absolutely latched in the down and locked position; you may not have room 
under the seat for that setup.  The RR gear legs are HUGE flat plates 
hanging out in the air stream; sort of a speed brake permanently deployed. 
You will have much difficulty fairing around those wiggly gear legs.  On 
most retract KR-2 there is an aileron control cable running through the area 
aft of the main spar.  You will need to re-route the cable or use more 
modern control linkages.  If you have a spring bar aft of the spar, where 
are you going to mount the stick?

Highly recommend you use the Diehl or similar fixed main gear.  Fairings are 
also available.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net

--
The aircraft was issued it's N-Number (N86KR) in 1986, and is in need of
3 things, it seems - wing pins, some avionics replacement, and
conversion to tri-gear (personal preference).

The pins can be bought from NVAero from what I understand, I've got the
avionics I plan to install back home - those are the 'easy' jobs..

The tri-gear conversion seems the most difficult, and has been the
subject of much thought & online research, resulting in the following
plan (which I'm seeking comments/advice on)

1) Components would be the original KR2 spring-bar mains, and the Diehl
nose gear kit as sold by NVAero.

2) The 'objective' is to convert the plane from taildragger to tri-gear
'in-place', prior to ferrying it from where it is now to my home state.

3) From what I've read here and online, the largest block of time (and
largest requirement for jigs/tools/space/etc) in doing this work is the
post-conversion re-assembly - which generally is done by flipping the
plane and re-glassing the area cut open to gain access to the spar/gear.

What I have come up with, is a *possible* process to accomplish this
conversion without flipping the plane, by raising it up on jacks,
cutting away a rectangular patch of skin (and saving it in-tact for
later) to create access to the mains. At this point, the gear could be
'flipped' from the front of the spar to the back, and then the
rectangular patch would be re-attached with doublers around the edges
(inside the stub wings, not out in the airstream) and Hysol 9309.3
(microbead structural adhesive) for an adhesive and gap filler. Properly
done (eg, keeping the patch sucked up tight to the plane while the Hysol
cures) it should be just about as strong as the original structure, and
once sanded & painted, invisible...

Now, I'm not familliar with the specifics of the KR2 design yet (this is
a mix of army helo repair techniques, online research, and so on),
beyond what I can read online. Apart from a small bit of added weight
(from 4 doubler strips and the 9309), do you guys see any issues with
this plan? Is it going to create issues with the structure of the
stub-wings? Am I going to have trouble cutting out the 'access patch'
and separating the glass skin from the rest of the structure (Say, due
to the skin being adhered to foam & wood structure, making intact
removal of a cut-out section impossible)

I'm submitting this for comment, because you guys know alot more about
these planes than I do at this point... For all I know, there is a very
good reason why everyone flips the plane & does it the 'conventional'
way - or maybe it's just that's 

KR> re-registration

[Lee Parker]

I have three planes.  You will get a letter in the mail explaining when you 
need to re-register each plane.  There is a three month window to do it.  You 
can do it online and it cost $5.00.




From: "joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com" 
To: corvaircr...@mylist.net; kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:15 PM
Subject: KR> re-registration

Hey Guys,I've got myself confused about the reregisrtaion of N357CJ. For some 
reason I thought I had to have it done this fall. But I went to the FAA 
registry and it says that it does not expire until 9/30/2013. The chart that 
they give on their site says all years due now. Anyone know for sure how this 
works. If it is now I have to send by tomorrow.Joe Horton

60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27
Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ead866151ac412a46f0st06duc
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KR> PHOTOS FROM GATHERING?

[Lee Parker]

Your link doesn't work.




From: Larry H. 
To: "flyboyb...@gmail.com" ; KRnet 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: KR> PHOTOS FROM GATHERING?

Bob, thank you for the photos, really great to see everyone. Marc Baca thank 
you for the video it was great to see as well.
I sure missed seeing all of you guys but I did get to see some of you at 
Oshkosh. I hate good times missed but I will be there next year.
Larry H.


Larry H asked:

<< Has anyone posted any photos anywhere? >>

The photos I took are on the KRGathering.org site in the 2011 gallery.

You can click on any thumbnail photo to see the full sized image.

The direct link is:

http://krgathering.org/gathering2011.htm

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go! 
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KR> Home Safe

[Lee Parker]

I made it back in 1.5 hours, 302 Nautical miles to East Tn.  The Lancair was 
running good.  Stayed on top all the way at 7500.
Lee Parker.  The Lancair Man.  My KR didn't have enough time on it to fly it to 
the Gathering.  Maybe next year.




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To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:39 PM
Subject: KR> Home Safe


3.8 hours to home 3 in IMC and rain.

The Gathering was worth every minute.

Gary Shubert

KR2 in process
Tomahawk flying
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KR> Well Here Go's

[Lee Parker]

I am the Lancair man.  Anyway, I got my KR signed off by the FAA today.  I am 
ready to start flying my 40 off.  I don't think I will make it by the Gathering 
Time.  I was scheduled to go to the Reno Air Races anyway but, I think I would 
probably injoy the Gathering just as much if not more.  Have fun and enjoy.


From: Mark Langford 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Well Here Go's

Gary Robison wrote:

>Let the gluing and sanding begin.  .001% done 120% to go.

Welcome to the club.  I sincerely wish you persevere and can enjoy the 
experience, as well as the flight time, that I have over the years.  It's 
become my life's work, which then evolved into a great circle of like-minded 
friends

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com



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KR> Aircraft Tax Question

[Lee Parker]

Jack, I got my letter a couple of months ago.  They wanted a copy of the bill 
of sale where I purchased the kit.  I tried to explain that the airplane was 
not finished.  They wanted me to pay the tax on the value of the plane 
finished.  I made up a figure somewhere close to the amount that I had spent on 
parts and materials, which came to around $8K dollars and figured the tax and 
sent it to them with a copy of the bill of sale.  They got me on my Lancair 
last year.  Thank goodness you only have to pay it once.  I should be flying 
the KR2 shortly.  I have a few little things to finish and call the FAA.  I 
have a friend at the FAA who is an inspector when you get ready.  He says he 
enjoys checking out the experimentals.  Some of the local RV boys use a DAR 
which is ok but, he charges $400.00 .  The FAA does it for free.  We pay their 
salaries so we might as well use them.


From: "kr2coo...@comcast.net" 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Aircraft Tax Question



I recently got a letter and tax form from the state of Tennessee wanting me to 
pay sales tax on my KR. It ask if I bought it in state or out of state and if 
out of state what sales tax I paid. It also ask if it was a  Kit and where I 
got the kit. I wrote them a letter with some pictures explaining that this was 
a plans built airplane not a kit and that I bought all parts from suppliers and 
paid appropriate tax on each individual part that I bought. They must have 
bought it because I haven't heard anything more from them but then again it is 
a bureaucracy so it may take a year or so to make a decision. 

Jack Cooper 

Chuckey TN. 



- Original Message -




From: laser...@juno.com 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:35:52 AM 
Subject: KR> Aircraft Tax Question 

In my negotiations with the County Tax people just south of you I took pictures 
of my airplane in a disassembled state and included some early articles from 
Kitplanes and other magazines which contained the info that the plane has a VW 
engine and can be built for $3000 in materials - you can find all of that 
online.  Include the Popular Mechanix cover story with a picture of Ken Rand 
and his original KR-1.  Put a nice package of this info together for them - 
educate them. They only know RV's and factory builts when it comes to planes so 
you have to inform them of just how inexpensive and special the KR is - made 
out of styrofoam and plywood.   

This is a better route than asking owners what they think their airplanes are 
worth.  We all think our planes are worth at least $25K.   

Mike 
   

 
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KR> wanted: used engine cowling

[Lee Parker]

There's one on e-bay.




From: michael inskeep 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: KR> wanted: used engine cowling

try larry knox at lebianair,. he had one for a vw.
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Margaret Davis wrote:

> hi craig   thanks for the lead, but the one on e-bay is for an s-model with
> a
> revmaster  thanks brad davis
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Craig Williams 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 8:19:16 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> wanted: used engine cowling
>
> Oops, It's Item number:    220770947907.  Also you can find one here:
> http://deej.net/forsale/.  I am looking for one to use as a pattern but
> what I
> need is a junker that I can cut up.  Anyone have one of those, cheap?
>
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
>
> --- On Mon, 5/16/11, Margaret Davis  wrote:
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> > From: Margaret Davis 
> > Subject: KR> wanted: used engine cowling
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > Date: Monday, May 16, 2011, 9:44 AM
> > Would anyone have a used engine
> > cowling for a plans built KR 2 with a VW ? If
> > so, Please contact me, Thank you,Brad Davis
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KR> KR2S High Speed Pass Video

[Lee Parker]

Check out this video on youtube.  You tail draggers will like the taxi-cam.  
Panama Nemesis NXT second flight test.  Just search it on Youtube.

--- On Fri, 11/19/10, Emory Luth  wrote:


From: Emory Luth 
Subject: KR> KR2S High Speed Pass Video
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 2:04 PM


Check out the link below to see some fun KR flying at Corvair College 19
last weekend.  The audio alone is good motivation to keep building!  Hold on
to your hat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJRvYIOgkb0


Emory Luth
KR2S/Corvair builder
Champaign, IL
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KR> personal time machine flies again...

[Lee Parker]

Mark, I live just over the mountain at MOR.  I saw you departing morristown on 
your way to Jack's fly. You were gone before I knew you were here. That Corvair 
sounds awsome. My KR2S is finished but I haven't installed the wings because I 
don't have the room in my hangar.  Have 4 airplanes.  Need to sell two or 
three.  I fly the Lancair just about every evening in the mountains and around 
the lakes.  I am still amazed at the beauty of the Smoky Mountains.  Lived here 
all my life.
Lee Parker  

--- On Sun, 9/19/10, Mark Langford  wrote:

From: Mark Langford 
Subject: KR> personal time machine flies again...
To: "KRnet" , "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" 

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 10:09 PM

NetHeads,

Today I flew up to see Fontana Dam again, in western North Carolina...an hour 
up and an hour back.  I saw a blurb on Hoover dam this morning on TV, and 
thought I'd see if the leaves were turning yet around Fontana Dam.  They 
weren't, but it was still worth the trip (see  
http://www.n56ml.com/flights/100920035m.jpg ).  On the way back I flew over the
Ocoee River ( http://www.n56ml.com/flights/100920108m.jpg ), with the rapids 
and some rafters (orange dots in the middle of the photo), as well as the power 
stations along the way.  I parked the plane with 955 fun-fiilled hours on the 
clock...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 


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KR> Airport hospitality

[Lee Parker]

I stopped in Hazelhurst Ga. a while back.  No one at the airport.  The weather 
had me socked in but they had a bunk house.  Clean sheets, tv, food, and cheap 
fuel.  Now any time I am in the area I will stop and get fuel to help support 
them.  We need more airport like this.

--- On Tue, 9/14/10, Lee Van Dyke  wrote:

From: Lee Van Dyke 
Subject: KR> Airport hospitality
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 7:36 PM

Some of the smaller airports are the best.  While flying back from the  
gathering 4years ago. We had to spend the night in Liberal KS.  We  
were able to use their courtesy car for the night. When he went off  
the runway in st johns AZ they let's use the car to go into town to  
get a bite to eat and when I got back the airport mgr had some  
blankets ready for me to use. They had a shower there and he said that  
I could watch tv and sleep on the couch for the night.  In my mind the  
smaller the airport the better the service.

Lee van Dyke

Sent from my iPhone

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KR> Weather-now radio?

[Lee Parker]

Standard traffic patterns are left hand.

--- On Thu, 9/9/10, rcollin...@frontiernet.net  
wrote:

From: rcollin...@frontiernet.net 
Subject: Re: KR> Weather-now radio?
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 5:51 AM

Dana,
am I missing something? everything I see published shows standard left hand 
pattern. 
thanks,

Riley Collins
Rutledge, TN

Glenn, I don't know what time you will be coming in but this is a unicom 
airport.  The FBO closes at 5PM and monitors 122.8 with a continuous AWOS 
119.625.  Another local AWOS is at DVK 128.325.  Fly safe and if you don't get 
a reply, fly the pattern as published (right hand traffic) as you do at any 
unicom airport.  After you land, you land you will see this is not a large 
airport..you won't have any problem finding us.  Any non KR's use the main the 
ramp tiedowns.


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KR> Re: KR fuselage finish?

[Lee Parker]

Just to be on the safe side.  I put two layers of deck cloth on my fuselage.

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, smwood  wrote:

From: smwood 
Subject: KR> Re: KR fuselage finish?
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 6:07 PM

>Do most builders glass the outside of the fuselage (wood bits) these
>days?

Cover the fuselage and wet lay-up areas with micro (epoxy with micro 
balloons).  Be sure to clean off all your finger prints from the plywood for 
best adhesion.  Clean the wax and finger prints from the fiberglass with 
Metal Prep 79 to save lots of unnecessary, futile and dangerous sanding. 
Mix enough micro balloons for a wet peanut butter consistency.  You will 
sand most of the micro off and it sands quite easily by hand.  Use the 
longest and flattest sanding board you can get to fit.  The micro will fill 
all the checks in the plywood and the weave valleys in the fiberglass to 
provide a smooth leveled surface ideal for primer.  Remember to only touch 
the sanded and cleaned surfaces with gloved hands.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net 



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KR> Are there any certificated A&P 'technicians' on this net?

[Lee Parker]

I was waiting to see if anyone did theirs the same as me.  I'm glad I'm not the 
only one that did it this was.

--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Teate, Stephen  wrote:


From: Teate, Stephen 
Subject: RE: KR> Are there any certificated A&P 'technicians' on this net?
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 2:24 PM



  "If there ARE other A&Ps reading  & 'using' this net we need to start 
monitoring this net a bit more closely  and offering our advice to our fellow 
builders (and pilots, also, for that  matter.)"

Forgive me while I respond to two posts with one reply. Like Jeff's response I 
am also an A&P and did actually make my living for a year and a half turning 
wrenches on GA airplanes. Loved the work hated the lack of money. One of the 
problems with your suggestion is that in that year and a half I met more than 
one A&P that had absolutely no business having a wrench in their hand, I even 
know an IA that falls into this same category. Quite an eye opening experience 
for me. Also like Jeff when I see a response that I feel strongly about I will 
usually respond directly to the sender. This may rob others of my particular 
opinion but that is just what it is.
As far as the aileron attachment was concerned I installed my nut plates on the 
back of my spar with small #4 x 1/4" wood screws and then floxed over the heads 
on the screws and ears of the nut plate. This eliminated the head of a rivet on 
the other side or the need to counter sink the spar or add a strip of nut 
plates riveted to a separate piece of metal. But it accomplishes the same thing 
and that is to provide shear resistance to the nut plate. I also put my screws 
on 4" centers instead of 6" centers.
And personally I thought the tube pinching ideas were not just good but 
obviously "airworthy".
One last thing, I had the pleasure of meeting Jeff for the first time at last 
year's gathering. He is no idiot and I have incorporated his suggestion into my 
airplane.

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas


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KR> Electric Trim

[Lee Parker]

Ray Allen probably is the best but, I went on the cheap side.  I used 96 Toyota 
heater servo motors and Toyota Camary window switches.  Seems to work fine.  I 
also used the cables from the heater control off a toyota too.  The motors and 
cables combined only weighed 5 ounces.

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Al Hawkins  wrote:


From: Al Hawkins 
Subject: Re: KR> Electric Trim
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 9:31 AM


I tried to use a r/c servo with a test controller, and it worked fine 
until the transponder transmitted, then it went to full deflection.

If  you use a r/c landing gear servo, it does not use a pulse modulation 
to control it, it might work.

I went with a Ray allen servo, which works just fine.

Al Hawkins
Port Coquitlam, B.C.
On 4/7/2010 12:42 AM, Peter Drake wrote:
> Dave
>
> I have used a heavy duty model airplane radio control servo with a servo
> tester circuit as a controller. It hasn't flown yet so I don't know whether
> the servo is powerful enough.
> I tried the wing mirror servo method with a servo off a Jeep Cherokee, but I
> couldn't get it to operate fast enough.
>
> Peter
> Hereford UK
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Dunwoodie"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:32 PM
> Subject: KR>  Electric Trim
>
>
> I haven't seen anything on here about electric trim, and I know lots of
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KR> Swift Fuel

[Lee Parker]

I see Embry Riddle University is changing 40 or more of its Cessna 172s over to 
Swift Fuel.  Read about it at AOPA aviation brief.

KR> Slick finnish.

[Lee Parker]

I wouldn't put anything on dry.  It leaves you open to air pockets under the 
finish which causes bubbles in the paint later on.  Peel ply works and helps 
remove excess resin.

--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Dan Heath  wrote:


From: Dan Heath 
Subject: RE: KR> Slick finnish.
To: "'KRnet'" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:45 AM


I like peel ply.  I know it works.  If the micro does not wet out, then it
will just flake off and you will not have accomplished anything.  A quick
test on a small piece should tell the tale.  Not sure about the "lighter"
either as peel ply actually sucks up excess resin, but I will bet we are
talking grams here.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


-Original Message-

pour dry micro balloons over the wing and brush it around to fill in the
weave. After drying just rake the excess back into the can. He said that
this would be lighter than the peelplying method but how much weight are we
talking here ? Is there a best way to do this ? 

Mike Sylvester 


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KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Lee Parker]

Swift said they could produce their fuel for $2.00 a gallon once they good 
geared up for full production.  That is about half what I am paying for 100LL.  
 They couldn't tell me when they planned to go full blast.  They did say they 
had sent two barrels to the FAA and they liked what they liked it.  I guess we 
will just have to wait and see.  I wouldn't hesitate to invest myself.

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Larry&Sallie Flesner  wrote:


From: Larry&Sallie Flesner 
Subject: Re: KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:22 PM


At 02:34 PM 2/8/2010, you wrote:
>If I heard correctly, I believe the Swift fuel would cost about 
>$62.00 per gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been 
>able to produce to this point is laughable (as in just a few 
>gallons) I think Swifts big goal right now is to sell shares of 
>stock to suckers !!
>
>Larry Howell
+++

I listened to the interview and never heard anything about $62 a 
gallon.  That might be what it's costing them for their "test" 
batches but they claim it should be comparable to 100LL when in full 
production.  They also claim it will increase your horse power by 
allowing you to advance timing by 2 or 3 degrees.  Personally, I hope 
they succeed.  If they do, I don't expect to see it on the market for 
3 to 5 years.  Also, if I heard correctly, they have produced a 4000 
gallon batch or two for running a test engine (a big one, 540ci or 
so) to TBO and check for wear.

Larry Flesner


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KR> Paint :Imron

[Lee Parker]

Most automotive paint and supply stores sell the wet paper for final finishing 
the clear coats.  Actually I prefer the palm sander.  It is much easier to use.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, tinya...@aol.com  wrote:


From: tinya...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: KR> Paint :Imron
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 8:53 PM


DA is short for "dual action" sander.  It is body shop  lingo to describe 
the air powered sander that has been around a long time.   I have never heard 
of using one with wet or dry paper, but I guess you  could.  I would think 
it would sling filthy water in your face, all over  the shop, and inside 
your project.  Watching out for the sharp edges  is very good advice.  Sanders 
eat through these areas very quickly.   Sort of like when you cover a fabric 
wing and you avoid sanding on the ribs much  to keep from eating through 
the fabric.  Power sanding tools can  do a lot of damage in a hurry if not 
watching what your doing.  Be  careful.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 12/6/2009 8:42:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

A DA  sander is an air sander.  It is usually with a six inch pad for six 
inch  wet or dry sandpaper.  When you sand the clear coat you want to use it  
wet.  This keeps the paper from clogging.  I use the DA sander on  flat 
surfaces only when sanding clearcoats.  It is easy to sand through  the clear 
coat on sharp edges so I do the sharp edges and turns by hand  with a foam 
sanding block.  A DA sander is a round sander which is  adjustable to 
different speeds.  It makes sanding and finishing a much  easier job.

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From: j...@aol.com 
Subject: Re:  KR> Paint :Imron
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009,  4:43 PM




In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central  Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some  antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five  coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and 
then  
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.   Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants  that settle in 
the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA  sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing  without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood?  

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace  of  God


In God we   trust!
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KR> Paint :Imron

[Lee Parker]

A DA sander is an air sander.  It is usually with a six inch pad for six inch 
wet or dry sandpaper.  When you sand the clear coat you want to use it wet.  
This keeps the paper from clogging.  I use the DA sander on flat surfaces only 
when sanding clearcoats.  It is easy to sand through the clear coat on sharp 
edges so I do the sharp edges and turns by hand with a foam sanding block.  A 
DA sander is a round sander which is adjustable to different speeds.  It makes 
sanding and finishing a much easier job.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, j...@aol.com  wrote:


From: j...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: KR> Paint :Imron
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 4:43 PM




In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and then 
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.  Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants that settle in the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood? 

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


In God we  trust!
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KR> Paint :Imron

[Lee Parker]

Imron is just a brand name.  Many of the paint company make single stage 
urethane paints that do the same thing.  The urethane paints were used several 
years ago before the base clear coat paints arrived on the scene.  I like the 
premium line base clear coats because they are so much easier to work with.  If 
you get a run or sage, it can easly be sanded and buffed out without repainting 
the entire section.  Also, base clears are so much easier to repair.  You just 
blend into the existing paint and burn in the clear top coat.  It is very hard 
to see where you made the repairs and is less expensive in the long run.  Clear 
coats will buff to a mirror like finish and Imron is very hard to buff 
expecially if is has cured for any length of time.  With clear coats, if you 
get a little lint or dirt in the top coat you simply sand the clear top coat 
with ultra-fine sand paper and buff.  We do some antiques and street cars and 
we will put as high as four
 or five coats of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and then 
3000 grit and buff several times to get the desired finish.  Ultra fine sanding 
takes out all the orange peel and any contamiants that settle in the clear top 
coat.

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Glenn Martin  wrote:


From: Glenn Martin 
Subject: Re: KR> Paint :Imron
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 2:31 PM


What are the advantages and disadvantages of using Imron?
>   
-- 

Glenn Martin
Owner
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com


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KR> Paint

[Lee Parker]

 
 
 
Gasoline will disolve Rustoleum.  I would't waste my time with spray cans or 
paint that does not use a catalyst.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Peter Drake  wrote:


From: Peter Drake 
Subject: Re: KR> Paint
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 2:37 AM


One intrepid builder in the UK has used Rustoleum combicolor paint on his 
aircraft. He was inspired by the amazing finishes the VW campervan community 
were achieving! There is an article about it in the April 2009 LAA magazine. 
(our equivalent to the EAA).
He applied it heavily thinned with white spirit with a 4" roller in very 
thin coats.
The advantage being that small components can be finished and put away, with 
the minimum of workshop preparation as there is no overspray.
The plane hasn't flown yet so we are all waiting to see how durable it is. 
There was some question about how hard it was.

Peter Drake
Hereford UK

- Original Message - 
From: "bobby burington" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:10 PM
Subject: KR> Paint



Hello All ,

Hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving. I was wondering what everyone 
was using for a primer and finish coat of paint on their planes ?.



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KR> RE: Paint

[Lee Parker]

I've done body work for thirty five years.  I am a firm believer in using 
quality paint and undercoats.  Limco and the other generic brands don't have 
the UV protectors that your major brand paints have.  We've tried many brands 
of the cheaper paints and they just don't hold up.  I would not spend five or 
more years building an airplane to put a cheap paint job on it.  Just doesn't 
make sense.  

--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Joe Beyer  wrote:


From: Joe Beyer 
Subject: KR> RE: Paint
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 10:37 AM



I used Ditzler Cross Fire polyurethane enamel on my KR and is still good. It
uses a reducer and a hardner.

Joe 
Scappoose Ore.
(Back from Florida)


> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:36:55 -0800
> From: laser...@juno.com
> Subject: KR> Paint
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Message-ID: <20091126.223655.3352.3.laser...@juno.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii  
> 
> Ken Cottle used Dietzler Durathane on mine and it still looks 
> like new 22 years & 1200 hours later.  Little ratty around 
> the cowl where nicks & many hundreds of times of taking 
> cowlings on and off have taken a slight toll, but fuselage, 
> wings & tail feathers still look like the day Ken finished them.  
> 
> Mike
> KSEE


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KR> ethanol and the Ellison

[Lee Parker]

I have a friend who has had several race cars.  He said they tested the 100LL 
against 93 octane auto gas and the auto gas came out with more horse power on 
the  dynometer.  He also said the auto fuel ran smoother and had less problems 
with the valves after the engines were broken in.  Embry Riddle University did 
a test several years ago on Mogas and determined that if you used auto fuel you 
could cut your maintainence cost signifiantly.  You can check the archives if 
you want to read about it.  I tried Mogas in my mooney and found that it also 
ran smoother.  The only problem was PRC fuel tank sealer won't hold up to auto 
gas.  I have friends with experimentals that have their fuel tanks sealed with 
Epoxy Novalac that run the ethanol and so far have not had any problems.  I 
think most of the problems with auto fuel is the risk of vapor lock and fuel 
tank sealers.  
--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Tim  wrote:


From: Tim 
Subject: Re: KR> ethanol and the Ellison
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:01 AM



Precautions
http://www.fuel-testers.com/ethanol_engine_precautions.html

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KR> Careful what you carry with you

[Lee Parker]

I spent 31 years in a public safety career.  Any item that was in a private 
airplane was considered personal property.  We were instructed to return any 
personal items to the owner.  Guns were also considered private property and 
returned to the owner.  On the other hand I live in Tennessee and we respect 
the right to bear arms.  Other states may be different.  EMT's in Tn. have no 
authority to take any persons property unless it has to do with the injured 
persons injuries or well being.  That includes guns, knives, etc.  That EMT 
should be reprimanded.





From: Benjamin Copeland 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 8:26:51 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Careful what you carry with you

Dan,
Call the Emergency Medical Services office and ask for the Director. You 
haven't heard from the police because you didn't break a law. An EMT has 
absolutely no authority to confiscate anything - they can remove stuff if it 
hampers their job of providing medical services - they cannot take 
anything - period. I was an EMT for four years from NC to Hawaii. He 
probably didn't steal your knife (but maybe) - for sure he was an idiot with 
an ego over stepping his authority. Reminds me of small-time security 
officers who think their paramilitary police. Yea, I was in security for a 
SHORT time too.

Ben
just2...@together.net

Dan said:
"...reporting it to Homeland Security.". "... they confiscated my knife 
anyway but the police haven't been here to arrest me yet."


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KR> Turtle Deck and Other Components

[Lee Parker]

Morristown, Tn. 35 miles east of Knoxville





From: "tiger7...@juno.com" 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:23:55 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Turtle Deck and Other Components

Lee were are you located 
Bob

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KR> Turtle Deck and Other Components

[Lee Parker]

I also have some parts for a regular KR2 that I don't need.  Parts include a 
turtle deck, forward deck, and some other items.  Free to someone who will pick 
them up.





From: Larry Knox 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 2:44:54 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Turtle Deck and Other Components

I have 2 partially built KR2s that I won't need as I purchased one almost
finished when I found I could not do the work anymore. I have a lot of stuff
but would like to have it go to someone starting to build at least the stuff
for one. Larry

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of kleirf...@ecomail.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:54 AM
To: KR List
Subject: KR> Turtle Deck and Other Components

Hey KRneters,
I was just wondering where we can get KR-2 components since it sounds like
RR is
way to hard to get a hold of these days.  I was also wondering if anyone has
put
a BMW motorcycle engine on a KR yet. 

Kris Leirfallom CFI
KR-2 Builder




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KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39

[Lee Parker]

Why don't we make a list of places that qualify and take a vote at the 
gathering?

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Mark Langford  wrote:


From: Mark Langford 
Subject: Re: KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39
To: n92...@cox.net, "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 4:07 PM


Steve Glover wrote:

> Does this mean nobody should bother with offering their alternatives?

No, not at all.  It's certainly a free country.  I asked for volunteers a 
few weeks ago, and you were one of them, but after I made my comment about 
the event being held at a somewhat centralized location, several of the 
volunteers were sufficiently hacked off that they withdrew their 
invitations.  You're certainly free to make any offer you'd like to make. 
The vote at the Gathering will be deciding factor, as always.  It's up to 
the participants to decide where they want to hold the next one, and up to 
the pilots to decide if they want to fly there or not.  If AJO or somewhere 
else in California is voted as the place for the next Gathering, then I'll 
do my best to fly there.  Mark Jones also volunteered his place at KSTE, but 
I'm not convinced that one would win a vote by the majority either, although 
y'all are both welcome to prove me wrong on this.  I'll try to be neutral, 
but that appearance is probably toast at this point.  I thought I'd found 
the perfect offer, but like I said, it's not up to me.  Please don't let me 
be the guy who started a perception of some kind of rift between the East 
and West coasts.  I'm already stressed out enough.

One thing's for sure, we can't expect Larry to do this forever...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> New house update

[Lee Parker]

KR is finished and sitting at my body shop for paint.  It has been there for 3 
months waiting to be painted.  We just got covered up with repairs and haven't 
had time to paint it.  I am now working on a lancair 320 project. I am almost 
finished with it too.  It helps to have a neighbor who is a mechanical engineer 
who likes airplanes.  Let me know when the fly-in is we will come.

--- On Mon, 7/20/09, jack.cooper2009  wrote:


From: jack.cooper2009 
Subject: Re: KR> New house update
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:40 PM




Lee 

You are only the second one to respond to my invitation for a flyin and the 
first  one to respond suggested October, so i havent set a date yet. How are 
you doing on the KR? 

Jack 
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Parker"  
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:21:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: KR> New house update 

When is the fly-in?  You built it we will come.. 

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, jack.cooper2009  wrote: 


From: jack.cooper2009  
Subject: KR> New house update 
To: "KRnet"  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:43 PM 




As promised I have finally gotten around to doing my last New house update. You 
can view it at 
http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/newhouse6.html 

I have been thinking of a KR fly-in and would like some feedback from you KR 
netheads. When would be a good time for it and who would plan on attending. If 
y ou don't have to have a fly ing KR, you can drive in. I'm located in North 
East Tennessee near Greeneville, between Johnson City and Knoxville. 04TN 
Hensley Airpark. www.hensleyairpark.com   With Oshkosh at the end of July and 
KR gathering in September Would 3rd Sat in August be pushing things too much?  
Oct, Nov, next spring??? I'm retired so if some of you would like to come in on 
Friday and stay until Sunday I can arrange transportation to a motel or bring 
camping gear and camp in the hangar or back yard. Lets put our heads together 
and plan something. 



Jack Cooper 
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KR> New house update

[Lee Parker]

When is the fly-in?  You built it we will come..

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, jack.cooper2009  wrote:


From: jack.cooper2009 
Subject: KR> New house update
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:43 PM




As promised I have finally gotten around to doing my last New house update. You 
can view it at 
http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/newhouse6.html 

I have been thinking of a KR fly-in and would like some feedback from you KR 
netheads. When would be a good time for it and who would plan on attending. If 
y ou don't have to have a fly ing KR, you can drive in. I'm located in North 
East Tennessee near Greeneville, between Johnson City and Knoxville. 04TN 
Hensley Airpark. www.hensleyairpark.com   With Oshkosh at the end of July and 
KR gathering in September Would 3rd Sat in August be pushing things too much?  
Oct, Nov, next spring??? I'm retired so if some of you would like to come in on 
Friday and stay until Sunday I can arrange transportation to a motel or bring 
camping gear and camp in the hangar or back yard. Lets put our heads together 
and plan something. 



Jack Cooper
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KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights

[Lee Parker]

What about the girls?

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Ray Fuenzalida  wrote:


From: Ray Fuenzalida 
Subject: Re: KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:41 AM


Correct.  EAA has no restrictions, BSA does.  But we do like to participate in 
the Young Eagles program.  The boys love it.  Don't know why the restriction 
exists, but it does.  The boys can't use a chain saw either (plus other stuff).

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Jeff Scott  wrote:


From: Jeff Scott 
Subject: KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:47 PM


Ray,
You are referencing the BSA's guidelines.  However, the EAA has no such 
restrictions.  Last I heard, the BSA didn't operate the Young Eagles program.  
Instead, if they choose to participate, they are under self imposed 
restrictions.  

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
EAA Chapter 691 President


-- Original Message --
From: Ray Fuenzalida 

It's not 100% bogus.  if you are flying scouts,BSA guidelines will not allow 
them to fly in experimentals.  


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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Lee Parker]

How about taking a survey to see where most people live and get an average 
milege to a central location and make that the place to have the gathering?  
Wouldn't that be the fair?  You would also have to have someone to host it.

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Mark Langford  wrote:


From: Mark Langford 
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 8:12 AM


OK, I lied.  I haven't given up yet.  Although Dana's Key West idea really 
is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama!  I have 
another plan.  I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and 
the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind 
me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. 
Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if 
others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a 
lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again.  That'd 
be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of 
us as being a perfect place when we were there.  The nearest hotel is 2.2 
miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs!  The 
only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a 
little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas.

Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one 
year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because 
many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend.  But as a "freebie" 
Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it.  Same 
with the other locations that volunteered.

Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at 
this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really 
anybody's game.  If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, 
that's great.  It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to 
vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked.

I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 
like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta 
here...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> KR-1 Plans Available

[Lee Parker]

To copy someone's plans is stealing.  Why not just order them  and pay the 
small price they cost.  Then you can feel good about the whole thing when your 
plane is finished.

--- On Fri, 5/22/09, tinya...@aol.com  wrote:


From: tinya...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Available
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:19 AM


GOOD DEAL!  

KR information should be public domain anyway.  The  original KR is 
outdated to the point they are more of a GUIDE than  PLANS.   I believe this 
"loyalty" is misguided and silly.  There  is a Yahoo group that has a bunch of 
free downloadable plans from years past and  this might be a good place for the 
KR plans.  This site can be found  here:

_http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/cfair/?yguid=62311250_ 
(http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/cfair/?yguid=62311250) 

Bottom line:  I don't think if the plans are given away  free that more KRs 
will be built.  The plans cost is so tiny compared to  the overall cost of 
the project

Also, I already have KR1 plans bought from Jeanette nearly 10  years ago.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 5/22/2009 1:29:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
wallyban...@gmail.com writes:

Hey  Guys,
I have put a digital set of KR-1 plans up on the internet.  They  are
available via bit torrent and the torrents can be downloaded  from
www.isohunt.com, www.thepiratebay.org and www.demonoid.com.   Demonoid
requires an account which you have to get through invitation but  isohunt 
and
thepiratebay are free.

I'm also thinking that I'll post  it on a file sharing website like 
mediafire
so those without bittorrent can  get it.  The download is 208mb and includes
all of the manuals and  prints required for the KR-1.  There are actually 2
different sets of  plans that I scanned.  The scan quality on some of the
plans is  lacking so there is a B&W and Colour set.  I'm planning  on
digitally retouching all of the older prints both for clarity and also  so
they can be compressed more, for ease of downloading.

I'm putting  the plans on the net because I'm irritated at how long it took
the get the  plans from Rand Robinson, there was no chance of telephone
correspondance  and I was irritated by the serious lack of quality in the
plans.   There appreared to be missing pages in the construction manual and
the  drawings were very helter skelter.  The construction manual  even
references drawings that apparently don't exist.

If anyone has  a set of KR-2 or KR-2S plans they would be willing to loan me
I would love  to get a set of those up on the internet.  Please bear in mind
that  I'm trying to do this as a favour to the community.  It costs me  
about
$50 to get the large plans scanned and then there is considerible  work on 
my
part to scan and assemble all of the other material.

Hope  you enjoy em!

Cheers,
Mike

Here are some direct links to the  torrents.

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/96286689/Rand+Robinson?tab=summary
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4907244/Home.Built.Ultralight.Airplane.Rand.
Robinson.KR-1.Plans.V1.0.rar
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1929765/19806490/
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KR> Cleaning Brushes and Buying Peel Ply

[Lee Parker]

Don't clean your brushes.  Go to Harbor Freight and get some chip brushes.  I 
buy them by the box and they are cheap.  Throwing them away does less damage to 
the enviroment than cleaning them and worrying about what to do with the used 
cleaning solution.

--- On Wed, 4/8/09, pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au  wrote:


From: pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au 
Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Brushes and Buying Peel Ply
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "Kurt Clement" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 12:31 AM


 Kurt Clement  wrote: 

So here is a question: After laying up fiberglass I have tried to clean my 
brush, but I end up throwing it away because it just hardens from all the 
epoxy/resin. 

Hi Kurt, Easiest way I found is to have a bucket of acetone with a lid on it 
beside my work bench. I drop the brush in it BEFORE it starts to set and 
continue doing other things like laying peel ply on with a squeegie. When I'm 
finished I wash the brush around in the acetione and wipe dry with a rag. Next 
I rub in a generous quantity of citrus hand cleaner which rips through the 
residue. Wash up in water and leave to dry. Comes up like new every time. 

Paul.




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KR> almost check it out ride - TN

[Lee Parker]

--- On Thu, 1/1/09, Riley Collins  wrote:

From: Riley Collins 
Subject: Re: KR> almost check it out ride - TN
To: amckev...@yahoo.com, "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 9:30 PM

Andy, 
   I'm in Morristown, Tn.  I am about 95% finished.  I need to finish out the 
wings and paint.Lee Parker  423-258-8755

 Andy Mckevitz  wrote: 

=
I too believe that the KR is the plane for me.  Though 6'1" tall, I am
told the older versions are out, but I want as close as I can get to turbo
[normalizing, and subject to VW engine capability because economy high alt
cruise is the idea here], RG, IFR, night plane.  Before you reply there is no
such thing and it cannot be created, I do advise I'm willing to compromise! 
Understanding thus far, that the VW engine is best for economy.  Call me crazy,
but If I have to spend over $30k, I may as well buy a V-tail bonanza, so I
don't think my demand is unrealistic.  I suppose the KR2s [stretch] is a
fixed gear only,  doh!  Any good way around this to get a plane that I can fit
in?
Keeping this short, is there anyone with ANY KR2 version near knoxville, TN? 
I'd like to visit, or invite to visit [I live on TN87, 8nm south of TYS,
knoxville's airport].  I'd like to check the plane out, and also offer
to pay expenses.  Of course, I need to overcome the hurdle of actually fitting
into the plane...  then I grow more serious.

Andy




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KR> RE: CorvAircraft> Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaw

[Lee Parker]

I live in Morristown and have a business there.  I fly a Mooney out of 
Morristown and have a hangar there.  My daughter  and son-n-law live in Johnson 
City and own Fleenor Securities the largest security company in East Tn.  They 
service 5 states.  I am also building a KR-2 in my basement.  About 70% 
complete.

  Lee Parker  le62...@yahoo.com

tlongcr...@peoplepc.com wrote:
  Congratulations. Great area..East Tennessee.

I attended the university in Knoxville in '48,'49 and '50.

Thurman Loncrier
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To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" ; "KR 
builders and pilots" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:55 PM
Subject: KR> RE: CorvAircraft> Yeeehaw


> One thing I forgot to mention in my first yhaw message. A thousand
> thanks go to Anthony Underwood (KR net) of Morristown Tenn for telling me
> about Hensley Airpark. Thanks Anthony.
>
> Jack Cooper
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: kr2coo...@earthlink.net 
>> To: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft ; KR
> builders and pilots 
>> Date: 3/27/2007 9:28:46 PM
>> Subject: CorvAircraft> Yeeehaw
>>
>> No, I didn't fly my KR today, didn't even start the engine. But I have
> some news that I think is worth a big Yhaaaw. On April 10, 2007 My
> wife Sandy and I will close on a little piece of property in East
> Tennessee. We expect to move there sometime this summer. We are both from
> Johnson City, Tennessee and Sandy's family still lives there and I have 
> one
> sister about 40 miles from Johnson City and we will be located about half
> way between. To see why I'm yhawing go to the link below and spend
> some time browsing and you will probably let out a little yeeehaw for me.
> Think of the possibilities. http://www.hensleyairpark.com/index.html
>>
>> Jack Cooper
>>
>> kr2coo...@earthlink.net
>> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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FW: KR> RE: RC Servo

[Lee Parker]

I used a 1995 Toyota heater control motor for a trim servo on both my rudder 
and elevator.  A 1992-1995 Lexus ES-300 also works.  The heater control cables 
also work well because they are very strong and lightweight. Use the pink and 
orange wires to run the motor.  If you need feedback for a gauge to tell the 
location of the trim tab, use the other 3 wires for that.  I chose not to use a 
gauge. 

parley byington  wrote:  Larry;

I use a small window crank mounted on the cokpit side just behind my
throttle quadrant to move a spring attached to my rudder cable as a trim. 
I purchased the window crank at a local hardware store for under $10.00. 
This crank, there are several different models available, is the type used
in some campers and is readily available. The crank has a geared shaft
that travels for and aft depending on the direction you turn the small 2
inch handle. This device comes complete with mounting hardware and was
simple to attach and works great.

Just another idea, hope it helps.

Parley Byington
byington1...@earthlink.net
(N54PB) KR-2
Henderson NV.


> [Original Message]
> From: 
> To: 
> Date: 1/20/2007 8:35:33 PM
> Subject: KR> RE: RC Servo
>
> Larry,
> 
> Jeff is pretty close to what the DAR said. The RC servo does needs 
power to 
> hold position. The DAR stated that if it lost power it would not remain 
> fixed in place and therefore would potentially cause flutter in the
elevator - 
> therefore unsafe. Right now I only have a ground adjustable trim tab on
the 
> elevator. When I fly two people, I definitely have to hold forward
pressure on 
> the stick.
> 
> Rob Schmitt
> 
> 
>



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