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Enter identifier> also a picture of the Airport usually provided here...by local Flyer's http://www.airnav.com/airports/ From: "Mark Langford" A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be nice. I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks. A 2800' grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how tall the grass is. Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside hangar storage would be imperative. After all, we leave them outside for days at SNF and OSH every year. I forgot to mention camping in my first message. Camping on the field would be very good. A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's camping area with the pond/swimming hole. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com
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Dana Overall wrote: > Hum, so I guess Key West is out of the picture.:-( Sorry > Steve, no shirts, hats or sea shells > > But then again Steve, as one poster put it...we are probably groupees.. > Groupees? Heck that probably ranks up there near the top as one of the better things I have been called. OK, I think all of us Groupees need some special attire to set us apart from the other Attendees; I am thinking http://www.margaritavillestore.com/browse.cfm/4,2404.html You'll find us over near the neon palm tree and Melody Mountains. Steve Eberhart Only three days till my Airworthiness Inspection. Man these hours are ticking past sooo slowly.
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> >Mark, > > >Is that an invitation > > >Larry Flesner > > Just a thought. I have not cleared anything with the airport authority. If > it becomes a reality, I will make a formal proposal at the Gathering > Mark Jones (N886MJ) Hum, so I guess Key West is out of the picture.:-( Sorry Steve, no shirts, hats or sea shells But then again Steve, as one poster put it...we are probably groupees.. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
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At 07:28 AM 6/8/2009, you wrote: >How about taking a survey to see where most people live and get an >average milege to a central location and make that the place to have >the gathering? Wouldn't that be the fair? You would also have to >have someone to host it. +++ Check out http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929131.jpg for a map to see where the "attendees" travel from. Like Mark Langford said in an earlier post, the Kansas City area would probably be the most centralized area. Southern Illinois is not far off. Speaking of the Gathering, I will try to get rolling on putting it together including updating the www.krgathering.org web page. Bob Lee, are you out there? Please set up a registration page for this years event. I'll go over the rest of the site and see what else needs updating and post to you direct. Thanks. Larry
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How about taking a survey to see where most people live and get an average milege to a central location and make that the place to have the gathering? Wouldn't that be the fair? You would also have to have someone to host it. --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Mark Langford wrote: From: Mark Langford Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 8:12 AM OK, I lied. I haven't given up yet. Although Dana's Key West idea really is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama! I have another plan. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again. That'd be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of us as being a perfect place when we were there. The nearest hotel is 2.2 miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs! The only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas. Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend. But as a "freebie" Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it. Same with the other locations that volunteered. Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really anybody's game. If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, that's great. It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked. I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta here... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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Mark L. wrote Saint Paul, MN. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. I was also thinking of Red Oak IA. but didn't want to chime in because it is only 5 hours from me and it would seem like I'm being selfish. Patrick Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
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>Mark, >Is that an invitation >Larry Flesner Just a thought. I have not cleared anything with the airport authority. If it becomes a reality, I will make a formal proposal at the Gathering Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com
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At 07:28 PM 6/7/2009, you wrote: >So how would central Wisconsin KSTE http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSTE be >for a Gathering? Mark, Is that an invitation Larry Flesner
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I do like the sounds of KSTE, maybe I can have the MISS CAROLYN in the air by then. So lets make Mark Jones the 2010 host! Only 950.5 miles for me. Mike Turner Edgewood NM, USA So how would central Wisconsin KSTE http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSTE be for a Gathering? Stevens Point has a lot of great features such as cool temps in Sept, an uncontrolled airport, lots of hotels, lots of beer, lots of bars, uncontrolled field with a 6000' main and a 3600 runway. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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>I like the idea or Arlington as well. I guess I do not understand the >issues >people have with a bit of airplane traffic or controlled airports. Are >there really that many KRs that don't have radios or transponders? There are very good reasons why we do not want to be at a controlled airport and here are a few: 1) We do high speed fly bys down the runway at about 50 feet off the ground. 2) Sometimes there are two or three KR's doing it at the same time. 3) Sometimes we take off as a group. 4) There are the times where people stand right next to the runway taking video and photos. 5) We sometimes do timed flights with the judges standing at the end of the runway. 6) There are upwards of 100 folks out on the ramp at any given time. 7) Then there are contests like spot landing, flour bomb drop, etc. 8) I remember Marty Roberts at Lake Barkley climbing to 3000 over the airport and dropping a roll of toilet paper and seeing how many times he could cut it before it hit the ground. These are just some of the reasons we do not want a controlled field for a KR Gathering. So how would central Wisconsin KSTE http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSTE be for a Gathering? Stevens Point has a lot of great features such as cool temps in Sept, an uncontrolled airport, lots of hotels, lots of beer, lots of bars, uncontrolled field with a 6000' main and a 3600 runway. Most likely could get one of the corporate hangers to store planes in at night. Oshkosh is 65 miles away for those who have never seen it and the Airventure museum. The Wisconsin Dells (worlds largest water park vacation spot) are 75 miles away for those who would like to go there before or after the Gathering. And for you Packer Fans Green Bay is only an hour and a half away. Anyway, just a thought. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com
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> I guess I do not understand the issues >people have with a bit of airplane traffic or controlled airports. Are >there really that many KRs that don't have radios or transponders?ted +++ Ted, Radios, no. Transponders, probably. I'm guessing you've not been able to attend a KR Gathering or seen any of the PROFESSIONAL videos that video Bob and Terry have shot at the past Gatherings. A KR Gathering is a "down home", "hey, look at those suckers go" ( a three KR loose formation fly-by) with several more KR in the pattern making solo runs, other KR drivers giving rides to those persistent enough at "begging". At times the KR's are all on the ramp with cowls and other panels removed and people poking, prodding, photographing, and asking questions about every part of the KR imaginable. The KR Gathering is where everyone and anyone is welcome but the KR is front and center. The 2009 Gathering will be my 20th consecutive Gathering and it has only gotten bigger and better over the years. I miss the changing locations that occurred in the past but it seems that everything came together at Mt.Vernon and the attendees keep voting to return each year. Personally, I'd like to have a break from hosting (this will be my 6th consecutive year as host) and be able to spend more time sharing my KR with the attendees. Like every KR, mine is unique and I'd like to share some of the things I've done with fellow builders. My KR, different as it is , has worked well now for 350 hours. Having the Gatherings in the central U.S. has worked well as no one has to travel more than "half way", so to speak. I'm sure there are many good locations for the Gathering to take place. We only need someone to step up to the plate and make the invitation. I'll gladly share the knowledge I've gained these last five years as host. Any takers ? Larry Flesner
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I like the idea or Arlington as well. I guess I do not understand the issues people have with a bit of airplane traffic or controlled airports. Are there really that many KRs that don't have radios or transponders? Iv'e gone to oshkosh and the KR guys show up for a day or two at the beginning of the week and then are gone. It would be fun to have some other things to look at besides KRs (no disrespect intended, of course I would spend most my time with you goodfellas). At Oshkosh the KR guys stood around for a couple of hours and dispersed anyway. just a thought, ted
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Dana Overall wrote: > > By golly if you want it in Key West, I'll host it again:-) > > Put my RSVP in for Key West and put me down for two shirts and a hat with the Key West logo. Will be flying my aluminum RV but Dana and I will park on the other side of the tracks :-) Steve Eberhart RV-7A Airworthiness Inspection next Thursday :-)
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> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:33:28 -0500 > From: has...@mncable.net Now all of the sudden, > there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those > Locations that have been offered. > > You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be > made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. > > Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would > want to put that effort out for those who have commented. > Good Luck, > > Dick > Salol, MN Dick and Bill, you seem to have taken constructive input as a personal attack, that was far from my intent. If you did take it as you seem to have, please accept my apology as no -itching and complaining was coming from me. Yes, I do realize the work involved in hosting the gathering, as I have hosted it twice. Also, the location is voted on and selected at the gathering. I really don't think the people who fly to the gathering are tethered to their home airports or limited to the local treeline. By golly if you want it in Key West, I'll host it again:-) No more comments from this end, I'm going flying, > Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
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Hi Bobby, Well, I will stop at what I have said so far. The main reason for what is now the expired offer is that Warroad, from any place on the east coast is no more than 1700 miles, From the West, 1600 miles, From the south of Texas... 1500 miles. It equaled it out for the coast lines. Plus, bring Canadian Builders into the picture because we are a Port of Entry. Aside from having some of the Greatest Pike Fishing in the World for them folks that wish to stay on, There is always a Museum and 40 acre Plant of the Largest Custom Window Manufacturer in the U.S. Today. Polaris Plant is 20 miles to the West. Arctic Cat 60 miles south for those who are interested in wheels or tracks when flying is not possible. With that... I will say... Good Day... Dick Salol, MN bobby burington wrote: > Hey Dick , > I feel the same as you do , was gonna offer up central California but gald I > waited. Not gonna happen now > > Bobby Burington > California KR Builder > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >
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> From: Richard Hasbrook > Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not > believe I would > want to put that effort out for those who have commented. > Good Luck, > > Dick > Salol, MN Hey Dick , I feel the same as you do , was gonna offer up central California but gald I waited. Not gonna happen now. Its ok for all the US border state KR owners to fly to the little KR groupies home gathering but not ok for them to fly more than an hour to get their "rootbeer", But you gotta remember most of these guys only fly circles around their home field on sundays and the farthest cross country they do is the last tree line you can see from the tower. If they had to use a chart or do flight planning for REAL cross country, they would be lost and scared and would never make it to your gathering anyway !. Bobby Burington California KR Builder > From: Richard Hasbrook > Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not > believe I would > want to put that effort out for those who have commented. > Good Luck, > > Dick > Salol, MN
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"Dick" wrote: > ALL we see is Complaining about Locations, and NOT ONE > Thanks Guys for the Offer... It will be taken into consideration!!! Guilty as charged. Please accept my humblest apologies. Over and out... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
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Amen! Richard. Bill Weir - Original Message - From: "Richard Hasbrook" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 With respect for the KRNet group as a whole, I will keep this as short as possible and NOT state my full feelings. When I offered to Host in Northern Minnesota, there was NO limits as to what part of the country you had to be in. (There were NO boundaries given) Same Goes for the NW, E, and NE Coasts!! You requested information on who would be interested in Hosting, and many of us answered that request. Now all of the sudden, there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those Locations that have been offered. You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. To get the Grilles around, and set aside a meeting place. To get local people to be drivers for those who would like to go see some local sites, and transportation to the convention site. Much time could be spent in the prep for such an event. Yet... ALL we see is Complaining about Locations, and NOT ONE Thanks Guys for the Offer... It will be taken into consideration!!! Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would want to put that effort out for those who have commented. Good Luck, Dick Salol, MN Mark Langford wrote: > OK, I lied. I haven't given up yet. Although Dana's Key West idea really > is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama! I have > another plan. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and > the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind > me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great > people. > Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if > others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things > a > lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again. That'd > be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of > us as being a perfect place when we were there. The nearest hotel is 2.2 > miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs! > The > only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a > little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas. > > Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California > one > year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year > because > many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend. But as a "freebie" > Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it. Same > with the other locations that volunteered. > > Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at > this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really > anybody's game. If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it > in, > that's great. It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to > vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked. > > I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 > like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta > here... > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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With respect for the KRNet group as a whole, I will keep this as short as possible and NOT state my full feelings. When I offered to Host in Northern Minnesota, there was NO limits as to what part of the country you had to be in. (There were NO boundaries given) Same Goes for the NW, E, and NE Coasts!! You requested information on who would be interested in Hosting, and many of us answered that request. Now all of the sudden, there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those Locations that have been offered. You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. To get the Grilles around, and set aside a meeting place. To get local people to be drivers for those who would like to go see some local sites, and transportation to the convention site. Much time could be spent in the prep for such an event. Yet... ALL we see is Complaining about Locations, and NOT ONE Thanks Guys for the Offer... It will be taken into consideration!!! Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would want to put that effort out for those who have commented. Good Luck, Dick Salol, MN Mark Langford wrote: > OK, I lied. I haven't given up yet. Although Dana's Key West idea really > is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama! I have > another plan. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and > the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind > me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. > Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if > others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a > lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again. That'd > be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of > us as being a perfect place when we were there. The nearest hotel is 2.2 > miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs! The > only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a > little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas. > > Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one > year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because > many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend. But as a "freebie" > Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it. Same > with the other locations that volunteered. > > Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at > this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really > anybody's game. If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, > that's great. It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to > vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked. > > I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 > like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta > here... > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >
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OK, I lied. I haven't given up yet. Although Dana's Key West idea really is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama! I have another plan. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again. That'd be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of us as being a perfect place when we were there. The nearest hotel is 2.2 miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs! The only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas. Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend. But as a "freebie" Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it. Same with the other locations that volunteered. Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really anybody's game. If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, that's great. It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked. I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta here... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
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> From: n5...@hiwaay.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:47:58 -0500 > > But let me get this straight now...every suggestion so far has been along > the extreme perimeter of the country...west, northwest, north, northeast, > far east. All we're missing is the tip of Florida. > > So I guess I'll give up at this point, and see y'all at MVN in 2010. I'll > just be content to talk Joe Horton into meeting me at various places, and > visiting folks like Dan Heath or John Backer... As a former host of the 2 KR gatherings, I have to chime in on Mark's observation. I have been watching this thread with interest. Even though I do have a KR anymore, I do try to stay in contact with the KR crowd and attend the gatherings, I'll be at MVN this year. I am sure many who have posted suggestions have great airports. However, they have all seemed to be on one coast or the other, extreme NE or extreme NW, I'm like Mark, how come someone hasn't chimed in with Key West yet:-)? The reason I held the gathering at Lake Barkley, a 1.5 hour flight west for me at the time, instead of my home airport, which is centrally located anyway, is Lake Barkley is a little further west which allowed the western people a better opportunity to attend while not ruling out the eastern people. My opinion, and it's just mine, as I have no dog in this fight (not very PC with the Michael Vick thing:-) but I think you really want a more centrally located airport than on a coast. If you do go with a coast location, plan on buying fewer shirt, hats and don't buy as much food, you will have immediately reduced the attendance of the gathering. Optimal location: Midwest, away from town, multiple runways, large hangar, restaurant, banquet area, close to a commercial airport with camping.hum, sound like anyplace any of us has visited. BTW, sorry I missed the Wings and Wheels yesterday, Elaine and I flew as a two ship to Columbus, OH to help supervise (never can have enough supervisors) the move of a friends RV-10 from the paint shop, did a little acro on the way, visited two graduation parties, had a great dinner and flew back just before sunset, in time to get home and watch a movie with a couple of tasty barley popsgonna fly to Texas next Friday for a three day formation clinich.get off this computer gang and go do something on your project, flying is much more fun than building!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009
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Everything is very close, I've been to em' all, like Arlington best Closest for Alaska builders ;-) - Original Message - From: "Scott" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 I like the idea of Arlington. On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:07 AM, "Tim" wrote: > Why not use the Arlington EAA Fly-injust the right size > http://www.nweaa.org > > > __ ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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If you're talking about going on the weekend that they are also having the big Flyin, I'm not sure that's a great idea. First off, witnesses. Then there's the diluted crowd of folks who we'll spend our time talking to, rather than to each other or new/other builders, and then there's the air traffic. I know once I fly into OSH or SNF, I'm happy I made it in one piece and call it good until I fly out early in the morning on departure day. Arlington's probably not nearly that bad, but I wouldn't feel like it was really a "KR Gathering" if there were several thousand other planes hoards of people there. But let me get this straight now...every suggestion so far has been along the extreme perimeter of the country...west, northwest, north, northeast, far east. All we're missing is the tip of Florida. So I guess I'll give up at this point, and see y'all at MVN in 2010. I'll just be content to talk Joe Horton into meeting me at various places, and visiting folks like Dan Heath or John Backer... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
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I like the idea of Arlington. On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:07 AM, "Tim" wrote: > Why not use the Arlington EAA Fly-injust the right size > http://www.nweaa.org > > > __
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Thanks Richard. Jim James E. Sellars, B.A., (Econ.), CFP International Financial Planner Keybase Financial Group Inc. 120 Queen St, Moncton, N.-B. Canada E1C-1K7 Phone: (506) 856-7977 | Fax: (506) 859-8504 Email: jsell...@wealthmanagementcanada.com jsell...@keybase.com Web: www.WealthManagementCanada.com -Original Message- From: Richard Hasbrook [mailto:has...@mncable.net] Sent: June 5, 2009 2:39 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 Northern Minnesota... 6 Miles off the Canadian Border in Minnesota Dick Salol, MN Deems Herring wrote: > Canada > > > > > > >> From: jsell...@keybase.com >> To: kr...@mylist.net >> Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 >> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:26 -0300 >> >> Richard; >> Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located? >> Jim >> >> > > _ > Insert movie times and more without leaving HotmailR. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutori al_QuickAdd_062009 > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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Northern Minnesota... 6 Miles off the Canadian Border in Minnesota Dick Salol, MN Deems Herring wrote: > Canada > > > > > > >> From: jsell...@keybase.com >> To: kr...@mylist.net >> Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 >> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:26 -0300 >> >> Richard; >> Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located? >> Jim >> >> > > _ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >
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Canada > From: jsell...@keybase.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:26 -0300 > > Richard; > Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located? > Jim > _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
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> Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located? See http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRRT . If you haven't discovered www.airnav.com , it's the way I plan regarding airports that I'm flying into. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
Richard; Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located? Jim James E. Sellars, B.A., (Econ.), CFP International Financial Planner Keybase Financial Group Inc. 120 Queen St, Moncton, N.-B. Canada E1C-1K7 Phone: (506) 856-7977 | Fax: (506) 859-8504 Email: jsell...@wealthmanagementcanada.com jsell...@keybase.com Web: www.WealthManagementCanada.com -Original Message- From: Richard Hasbrook [mailto:has...@mncable.net] Sent: June 5, 2009 7:20 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 I will throw in the Possibility of Warroad, MN On the SW Shore of Lake of the Woods... But will have to do some checking first with the local Chapter and Airport Manager. I do not think Camping space would be a problem, Meeting site has possibilities, but Hangers are rather full... tie down only. A Casino, and 3 fair Motels 1 mile away from Airport. If there is interest, I will need time to check it out take care Dick Salol, MN Mark Langford wrote: > So that's it? California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina? The far > extremes of the country? I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be nice > if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees. > Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting the > Gathering? > > Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me. We still > need to get a mass KR "fly-out" to the West organized sometime, and Steve's > airport at Corona sounds fine for that. That's 1760 miles for me, which > would take 12 hours of flying, 50 gallons of fuel one way, with at least > four fuel stops along the way. Maybe I need to add that extra wing tank > first. And we wonder why the west coast guys don't show up every year... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website: www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
Why not use the Arlington EAA Fly-injust the right size http://www.nweaa.org
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
I will throw in the Possibility of Warroad, MN On the SW Shore of Lake of the Woods... But will have to do some checking first with the local Chapter and Airport Manager. I do not think Camping space would be a problem, Meeting site has possibilities, but Hangers are rather full... tie down only. A Casino, and 3 fair Motels 1 mile away from Airport. If there is interest, I will need time to check it out take care Dick Salol, MN Mark Langford wrote: > So that's it? California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina? The far > extremes of the country? I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be nice > if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees. > Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting the > Gathering? > > Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me. We still > need to get a mass KR "fly-out" to the West organized sometime, and Steve's > airport at Corona sounds fine for that. That's 1760 miles for me, which > would take 12 hours of flying, 50 gallons of fuel one way, with at least > four fuel stops along the way. Maybe I need to add that extra wing tank > first. And we wonder why the west coast guys don't show up every year... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website: www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
So that's it? California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina? The far extremes of the country? I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be nice if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees. Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting the Gathering? Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me. We still need to get a mass KR "fly-out" to the West organized sometime, and Steve's airport at Corona sounds fine for that. That's 1760 miles for me, which would take 12 hours of flying, 50 gallons of fuel one way, with at least four fuel stops along the way. Maybe I need to add that extra wing tank first. And we wonder why the west coast guys don't show up every year... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com
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That would make sense; Hampton is 7B3 and the runway is 2100'. Camping of the field happens during the annual flymarket weekend so I don't know why it would be different any other time. We also have PSM in Portsmouth, a ANG (KC135) base 11,321 X 150 near a Mt Vernon sized city. Lots of Lobsta' for those that like. Paul Derry, NH - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:54:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 airgu...@comcast.net wrote: > Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. > Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up > restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and > shoportinities). A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be nice. I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks. A 2800' grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how tall the grass is. Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside hangar storage would be imperative. After all, we leave them outside for days at SNF and OSH every year. I forgot to mention camping in my first message. Camping on the field would be very good. A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's camping area with the pond/swimming hole. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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They do have 1 large hangar, numerous t-hangers, and some private hangers. I am not connected with this airport, just fly there. Paul Derry, NH - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:06:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 What about overnight aircraft hangar space? See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of airgu...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:59 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and shoportinities). 00 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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If anyone is interested in a trek to California I could check in to what accomodations I can come up with at Corona (AJO). Nice uncontrolled field. Real homey but not as big as Mt. Vernon. 3200' runway. Fairly close to everything So Cal has to offer for entertainment for the families or spouses. Steve Glover --Original Message-- From: Mark Langford Sender: krnet-boun...@mylist.net To: KR Net ReplyTo: KR Net Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 Sent: Jun 2, 2009 7:54 AM airgu...@comcast.net wrote: > Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. > Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up > restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and > shoportinities). A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be nice. I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks. A 2800' grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how tall the grass is. Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside hangar storage would be imperative. After all, we leave them outside for days at SNF and OSH every year. I forgot to mention camping in my first message. Camping on the field would be very good. A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's camping area with the pond/swimming hole. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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airgu...@comcast.net wrote: > Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. > Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up > restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and > shoportinities). A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be nice. I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks. A 2800' grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how tall the grass is. Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside hangar storage would be imperative. After all, we leave them outside for days at SNF and OSH every year. I forgot to mention camping in my first message. Camping on the field would be very good. A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's camping area with the pond/swimming hole. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
At 07:59 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. +++ That depends. Just where is this strip located and would it be possible to "flag" some of those pebbles so we could avoid them. I'd hate to have to buy a new prop. :-) Larry Flesner
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At 05:31 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote: >I'm guessing that Larry Flesner would like just sit back in a lawn >chair and watch the KRs go by next year. Think about it... > >Mark Langford + Mark and I discussed this issue on the phone and I told him that it would not hurt my feelings whatsoever if the location changed. This years Gathering will be my 20th consecutive Gathering and host for the last five years, year six coming up. I drove or flew to 13 Gatherings before my KR was completed and since completion I've made the 20 mile trip to Mt.Vernon each year. I too would like to fly to a new location. It might mean missing a Gathering for weather, etc., but I would probably drive in that case. I'd hate to break a 20 year string. I can't begin to thank everyone for the GREAT support, both physically and financially, that everyone has given while I've been hosting the Gathering. Mt.Vernon has a great facility and the support from Chris Collins and staff, as well as the FBO, has been over the top. Chris would like to see us make Mt.Vernon the permanent home for the Gathering but we must make the wishes of the attendees our number one priority. Change is sometimes good, even if it just makes us appreciate what we had. If someone wishes to host the 2010 Gathering at a different location I will give them my complete support on planning and hosting the Gathering. Just do your homework and make your invitation known to the group. Just one thing. I would appreciate a nice shade tree to set under while I watch the KR's doing their fly-bys. :-) Till then, I'll see you at Mt.Vernon. Larry Flesner
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Mark Langford asked Would somebody please volunteer to host the Gathering NEXT year? I would be happy to host it at my home field Orangeburg SC. OGB that might be a little far for some, being on the east coast, sort of. But we have plenty of hanger space 2 long perfect runways a great Eaa Chapter building, room for camping ETC. I cook a mean southern pit Bar B Que and wouldn be happy to do one for you. Dan Heath has been there plenty of times what do you think about it Dan? Joh
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
What about overnight aircraft hangar space? See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of airgu...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:59 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and shoportinities). 00 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and shoportinities). 00
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How about chino, ca? On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:04 PM, "Jeff Scott" wrote: > I have to say, I was really looking forward to a gathering in > Granada, MS and was disappointed when it was turned down. I like > the idea of doing Mt Vernon every other year, or maybe I should say > flying somewhere other than Mt vernon every second or third year. > Larry and Chris do a great job and set the bar very high, but I'd > like to travel to some other places as well. The challenge is to > find people towards the middle of the country willing to host a > Gathering. > > We could do a Los Alamos (KLAM) Gathering. It has all the > benefits. A one way airport with the West end of the runway right > against a housing area, no overflights, no go arounds, no touch and > goes, restricted area (R-5101) at the South airport boundary, field > elevation of 7200', density altitude during September is usually 9 - > 10,000', no hangar space (other than my hangar), no FBO, and the > main highway into town is right next to the runway so every little > incident involves a phone call to the police followed by a phone > call to the FAA. Yeah, this place should be ideal! Actually, this > place makes me really look forward to retiring and leaving it behind. > > OK, surely somebody (or everybody) flies from a better airport than > this. So how about some proposals? I'm anxious to travel to > someplace different. > > -Jeff Scott > Los Alamos, NM > > > Click now to find great remedies for hangovers! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKyJnkyj3sT0mUASYpBF2kCLZ4zcTAvrOCLJCDZoEzuc1wnLpW19m/ > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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I have to say, I was really looking forward to a gathering in Granada, MS and was disappointed when it was turned down. I like the idea of doing Mt Vernon every other year, or maybe I should say flying somewhere other than Mt vernon every second or third year. Larry and Chris do a great job and set the bar very high, but I'd like to travel to some other places as well. The challenge is to find people towards the middle of the country willing to host a Gathering. We could do a Los Alamos (KLAM) Gathering. It has all the benefits. A one way airport with the West end of the runway right against a housing area, no overflights, no go arounds, no touch and goes, restricted area (R-5101) at the South airport boundary, field elevation of 7200', density altitude during September is usually 9 - 10,000', no hangar space (other than my hangar), no FBO, and the main highway into town is right next to the runway so every little incident involves a phone call to the police followed by a phone call to the FAA. Yeah, this place should be ideal! Actually, this place makes me really look forward to retiring and leaving it behind. OK, surely somebody (or everybody) flies from a better airport than this. So how about some proposals? I'm anxious to travel to someplace different. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM Click now to find great remedies for hangovers! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKyJnkyj3sT0mUASYpBF2kCLZ4zcTAvrOCLJCDZoEzuc1wnLpW19m/
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
KRnetHeads, I've been thinking for a couple of years now that while Mount Vernon is a great place for the KR Gathering (there may be no better place), I miss going somewhere different. I wouldn never have gone to Red Oak Iowa, Pine Bluff Arkansas, Perry Oklahoma, Lake Barkley Kentucky, Covington Tennesse, or Columbia Tennesee if we hadn't moved around every year. Given that Mount Vernon really is perfect, and Larry does a job that's probably impossible to top as far as running it goes, can we accept that maybe we ought to mix it up a little, and maybe move it every other year to somewhere else, but go back to Mount Vernon every OTHER year rather than EVERY year? This would give Larry and Chris a well-deserved break, get us a little closer to folks in other places that aren't quite as close to Illinois an opportunity to attend (although I know if you're a real KRhead you'll drive whatever it takes), and more importantly, break up the monotony! I talked to Scottish KR bilder/pilot Willie Wilson (G-DGWW) the other day, and he lamented it's been three years since he attended a Gathering, partially because having it in the same place has taken some of the shine off of it. Back when we moved it every other year, he had the opportunity to visit a different part of the country every time he came to the US, whereas now he goes to the same old place, stays at the same hotel, etc. So here's what I'm asking. Would somebody please volunteer to host the Gathering NEXT year? I can't do it because my airport is "private" and it's not legal to fly in if you are not an owner (or part owner, as in stockholder). Wayne from Mississippi volunteered to host it a few years ago (twice), but died before we allowed him to do it. I'm sure there are others who would like the opportunity to put their airport on the KR map. The requisites are that the airport has to be uncontrolled (or the controller is blind and deaf), somewhat out of town so the FBO doesn't get alot of complaints or has good neighbors, food has to be brought in (a big grille and burgers will work), someplace for the banquet is good (although I've enjoyed the ones in the hangar at Pine Bluff and Mount Vernon), inside storage at night for the KR's is a big plus, and the host has to do all of the organization. Support from an EAA chapter would be helpful, and local church or high school band groups often have fund-raising efforts that will do the cooking for you. H...I may have just killed it right there! But it never hurts to dream. As an example of what you can do, Dana Overall hosted one at Lake Barkley and that was a very long way from where he lived, yet it was still a great success. I'm guessing that Larry Flesner would like just sit back in a lawn chair and watch the KRs go by next year. Think about it... Mark Langford "variety is the spice of lifesheep AND goats..." N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
