KR> KR2s plans and manual FROM NVAERO (Long)

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Steve

Tho' I'm not a KR builder, I follow the site as my interest in the KR history 
and future is vivid.  Being in business for many years, I follow your 
frustration and can not try to understand your vast hurdles to stay in 
business.  My hat's off to you!  I feel that anyone that will read your story 
will understand that a short wait can be endured and that you are honest and 
have the best intents to help Keep The KR's Flying...Good Luck...

Sincerely  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:57 AM, I FLY KRs wrote:

> Hello Jeff and Netter's,
> 
> I guess I should make a few clarifications regarding nV Aero and parts/
> plans availability.
> 

KR> KR2s plans and manual FROM NVAERO (Long)

[omotosho olalekan]

Hi  Steve,

Nice to read  from  you and  wish you a  recovery from  any  loss  you  have 
suffered  from,  if  i  could understand  you clearly  plans  and  manual are  
aailable  but am  specifically  concerned about we  international  buyers  
which 
you  have  speared  the  info  in your  mail,  I  would just  like  you  to   
clarify  when  WE  international  buyer  can  make  order  for  plans  and  get 
them  with speculated  time.

Regards,


Steve  






From: I FLY KRs <n92...@cox.net>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 11:57:55 PM
Subject: RE: KR> KR2s plans and manual FROM NVAERO (Long)

Hello Jeff and Netter's,

I guess I should make a few clarifications regarding nV Aero and parts/
plans availability.

It has been no secret that since taking over providing plans and materials
we have had a few setbacks.  Between being flooded twice, another hangar
move to get out of the flood zone, and my knee surgery it has been difficult
to keep up with orders.  In addition, I work a regular job full time running
two companies as well as nV Aero. I didn't really get back to work until
early this year from my knee surgery.  On a personal level given my injuries
and economy, like many I had to short sale my house and lost a large sum of
cash money last year. 

Early in the year we had a hiatus in plans availability.  That has been
resolved and now have plans in stock.  I have been out of town much over the
past month or so which is why some plans have not been shipped.  In
reference to lack of availability internationally, we are evaluating our
position with overseas shipping. I will spare the details here. What I can
tell you is we have lost several thousand dollars shipping overseas.  We
also receive orders from people who expect us to ship plans or parts without
payment.  They then wonder why they have not received their orders or that
the orders have been cancelled.  We always attempt contact first.  

There are a couple builders on here with legitimate gripes about our
delivery time frame.  I completely understand their frustration and we are
doing everything we can to get their products to them.  The delay was with
the new airfoil wing and tail skins.  Given the above listed setbacks we
had, the production schedule was delayed on tooling and fabrication.  I am
happy to say that parts are in the molds now and we should have all
backorders completed shortly. We retained a composites company to produce
many of our items until we can get caught up and organized at the new
hangar.  

Those who know me know I always follow through on what I say I will do.  nV
Aero is no different.  We will always get your products to you.  We
certainly are not getting rich from the company.  In fact most months I came
out of pocket for our operating expenses.  It doesn't bother me for two
reasons.  1) I am dedicated to providing support for the KR series of
aircraft and keeping the design alive. 2) It truly is one of the few
affordable aircraft you can build with the level of performance the KR
offers.

After the short time we have been operating I now see some of the things
Jeanette had to deal with.  I can't say I blame her for much of what has
transpired over the past several years. We have had some great conversations
regarding history of the KR's and experimental aviation in general.  She
really has a great wealth of knowledge and experience with some of the
pioneers in the experimental world.

We have received several inquiries from people wanting specs and dimension
of our products.  I have learned some are wanting to duplicate or "improve"
what we have.  Eric and I have quite a large investment in this venture and
we have no intention of facilitating rip offs.  If some feel that I am not
responsive to their inquiries that we feel may not be of a genuine nature or
who are attempting to fleece the system, too bad.  Those of you who know me
know I have "somewhat" of a temper.  I am working on doing better in this
area but I admit I am no angel.  One person in particular that I most likely
owe an apology to is Jose Fuentes.  I had been dealing with a few things
regarding business and home.  I'll just say our communication did not go
well.  Some information regarding the flood, etc. was posted on the net and
he sent me a very nice email.  Unfortunately I did not reply but publicly
would like to now let him know it was appreciated.

At any rate, we are still here and intend on supplying the KR community with
plans and parts for a long time.  We will not facilitate frauds or play nice
with those who think that we owe them something just because they call.  If
anyone does call, please leave a message.  Don't leave a nasty gram on the
machine after several previous calls if you didn't leave any messages.  That
is a sure way to not receive any help from me.  I do have a real job and
work 10 - 15 hours a day just like many of you. 

KR> KR2s plans and manual FROM NVAERO (Long)

[I FLY KRs]

uld be fun to
create a bit of commotion with the speeds this KR-1 is capable of.  Mark you
would have loved this thing!

Regards,

Steve Glover
steve.glo...@nvaero.com
www.nvaero.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Jeff Scott
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:50 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual

I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the
only company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an export
problem or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't getting rich
doing this.

 FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but historically
she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you are outside the
US boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the opposite, although I
don't know if there is an issue with export for him. My personal experience
with sellling parts ourside of the US was horrible, through no fault of
either the buyer or seller.

 There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay
occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be
your last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the
legalities of the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one can't
obtain a legal copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.

 Jeff Scott
 Los Alamos, NM



- Original Message -

 Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than
nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning
Fourie South Africa _
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[Henning]

Hi Patrick and Robin,
Thank you for taking interest in my request for obtaining the plans and
manual.

By referring to a registered supplier I mean a supplier of KR2s plans that
is legally approved(i.e. Serial #,and all relevant requirements that can be
submitted in order to receive a builders number from our local aviation
authorities and registration of the homebuild aircraft)

The reason why I required about such supplier is that I tried to order the
plans from nvaero but did not received and answer from them on resent
communications and thus required weather there were other suppliers from
whom these plans can be obtained.

Please do understand me correctly as I do not try to discredit Mr.Glover in
any sense and do not have any intention to do so.
I am totally prepared to pay all relevant costs as advertised and stipulated
by nvaero.

I am not interested in any pirate copies since that will only make a lot of
expenses void at the end.

Thank you again,
Henning Fourie 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+h.fourie=vodamail.co...@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+h.fourie=vodamail.co...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
Patrick and Robin Russo
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:56 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual

Henning.
 I don.t Know what you mean by registered supplier". Tell us exactly what 
you are looking for. We may be able to advise you or help.We are a group 
that shares at the front door not thru the back door!
Pat
- Original Message - 
From: "Henning" <h.fou...@vodamail.co.za>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: KR> KR2s plans and manual


> Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than
> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals.
>
>
>
> Henning Fourie
>
> South Africa
>
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[Paulo De Tarso Montanaro]

Marc BacaOk ! You see ! a lot of people have problems to recive his documents , 
It I was talk about ,..
Marc sorry I try to speak in your language > Yo estaba a hablar exactamente 
essas paroles mas penso que nao me compreenderam Tu me compreendes ?

Paulo de Tarso Montanaro11-7194-3952



> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:26:53 -0700
> From: mbf...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> De acuerdo .. tambien yo hablo castellano.  Si hay dificultades yo se los 
> puedo 
> comunicar a Steve en NVAero.
> 
> Marc Baca
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Patrick and Robin Russo <patru...@myfairpoint.net>
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:05:23 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> 
> Paulo, I am certain that there is a misunderstanding only,  NOT a problem. 
> Tell us what the problem is and I am sure that we can help.We are a group 
> gathered to solve, share and resolve problems. No puedo hablar Portugese, 
> puedo hay muchos de nosotros quien hablan espanol. Como puedo ayudar te??
> Pat Russo
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paulo De Tarso Montanaro" <ptmo...@hotmail.com>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> 
> 
> >
> > good afternoom,
> > excuse-me people, I buy mine project with Steve Glover, and I was waiting 
> > for 3 months and I dont think is good to copy a pirate project of "good 
> > google" You dont have a registration number, a copy have horrible details. 
> > It I think
> > best regards from Brasil
> >
> > Paulo de Tarso Montanaro55-11-7194-395255-11-4617-8040 - R 8060
> >
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:50:14 +
> >> From: jscott.pla...@gmx.com
> >> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> >> To: kr...@mylist.net
> >>
> >> I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the 
> >> only company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an 
> >> export problem or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't 
> >> getting rich doing this.
> >>
> >>  FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but 
> >> historically she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you 
> >> are outside the US boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the 
> >> opposite, although I don't know if there is an issue with export for him. 
> >> My personal experience with sellling parts ourside of the US was 
> >> horrible, through no fault of either the buyer or seller.
> >>
> >>  There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay 
> >> occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be 
> >> your last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the 
> >> legalities of the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one 
> >> can't obtain a legal copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.
> >>
> >>  Jeff Scott
> >>  Los Alamos, NM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >>  Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than 
> >> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning 
> >> Fourie South Africa _
> >> ___
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[Paulo De Tarso Montanaro]

Hello ! Patrusso,how are You !
Perhaps was one misunderstanding, but ,.
I think is a problem !, people out of EUA want to buy a project and dont obtain 
it lawful. I said that mine project delay 3 months and I waiting for it last 
year.The mail service in Brasil open all  :  little boxes, big boxes, books, 
package, etc.. and have a tax of importation very expensive,.. after all 
this facts have a delay to transit goods.
I observe that in internet have a manual in russian, and some peoples sale 
project too and this copys of manuals and this project dont have registration 
number,  are horrible xerox ,...etc,..etcits correct ? Do you know ?
Sorry if I not make me understand, ok !
Another thing : Portuguese is another language and brasilian peolpe dont speak 
espanish,... perhaps ,..yes misunderstanding,... 
Hasta la vista ,  in português = Até Breve ! I'll be back ,  in português = Eu 
voltarei 
best regards
Paulo de Tarso Montanaro55-11-7194-3952- mobil



> From: patru...@myfairpoint.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:05:23 -0400
> 
> Paulo, I am certain that there is a misunderstanding only,  NOT a problem. 
> Tell us what the problem is and I am sure that we can help.We are a group 
> gathered to solve, share and resolve problems. No puedo hablar Portugese, 
> puedo hay muchos de nosotros quien hablan espanol. Como puedo ayudar te??
> Pat Russo
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paulo De Tarso Montanaro" <ptmo...@hotmail.com>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> 
> 
> >
> > good afternoom,
> > excuse-me people, I buy mine project with Steve Glover, and I was waiting 
> > for 3 months and I dont think is good to copy a pirate project of "good 
> > google" You dont have a registration number, a copy have horrible details. 
> > It I think
> > best regards from Brasil
> >
> > Paulo de Tarso Montanaro55-11-7194-395255-11-4617-8040 - R 8060
> >
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:50:14 +
> >> From: jscott.pla...@gmx.com
> >> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> >> To: kr...@mylist.net
> >>
> >> I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the 
> >> only company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an 
> >> export problem or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't 
> >> getting rich doing this.
> >>
> >>  FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but 
> >> historically she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you 
> >> are outside the US boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the 
> >> opposite, although I don't know if there is an issue with export for him. 
> >> My personal experience with sellling parts ourside of the US was 
> >> horrible, through no fault of either the buyer or seller.
> >>
> >>  There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay 
> >> occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be 
> >> your last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the 
> >> legalities of the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one 
> >> can't obtain a legal copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.
> >>
> >>  Jeff Scott
> >>  Los Alamos, NM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>
> >>  Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than 
> >> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning 
> >> Fourie South Africa _
> >> ___
> >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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[Marc Baca]

De acuerdo .. tambien yo hablo castellano.  Si hay dificultades yo se los puedo 
comunicar a Steve en NVAero.

Marc Baca






From: Patrick and Robin Russo <patru...@myfairpoint.net>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:05:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual

Paulo, I am certain that there is a misunderstanding only,  NOT a problem. 
Tell us what the problem is and I am sure that we can help.We are a group 
gathered to solve, share and resolve problems. No puedo hablar Portugese, 
puedo hay muchos de nosotros quien hablan espanol. Como puedo ayudar te??
Pat Russo
- Original Message - 
From: "Paulo De Tarso Montanaro" <ptmo...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: KR> KR2s plans and manual


>
> good afternoom,
> excuse-me people, I buy mine project with Steve Glover, and I was waiting 
> for 3 months and I dont think is good to copy a pirate project of "good 
> google" You dont have a registration number, a copy have horrible details. 
> It I think
> best regards from Brasil
>
> Paulo de Tarso Montanaro55-11-7194-395255-11-4617-8040 - R 8060
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:50:14 +
>> From: jscott.pla...@gmx.com
>> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
>> To: kr...@mylist.net
>>
>> I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the 
>> only company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an 
>> export problem or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't 
>> getting rich doing this.
>>
>>  FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but 
>> historically she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you 
>> are outside the US boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the 
>> opposite, although I don't know if there is an issue with export for him. 
>> My personal experience with sellling parts ourside of the US was 
>> horrible, through no fault of either the buyer or seller.
>>
>>  There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay 
>> occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be 
>> your last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the 
>> legalities of the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one 
>> can't obtain a legal copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.
>>
>>  Jeff Scott
>>  Los Alamos, NM
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>>  Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than 
>> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning 
>> Fourie South Africa _
>> ___
>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>
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[Patrick and Robin Russo]

Paulo, I am certain that there is a misunderstanding only,  NOT a problem. 
Tell us what the problem is and I am sure that we can help.We are a group 
gathered to solve, share and resolve problems. No puedo hablar Portugese, 
puedo hay muchos de nosotros quien hablan espanol. Como puedo ayudar te??
Pat Russo
- Original Message - 
From: "Paulo De Tarso Montanaro" <ptmo...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: KR> KR2s plans and manual


>
> good afternoom,
> excuse-me people, I buy mine project with Steve Glover, and I was waiting 
> for 3 months and I dont think is good to copy a pirate project of "good 
> google" You dont have a registration number, a copy have horrible details. 
> It I think
> best regards from Brasil
>
> Paulo de Tarso Montanaro55-11-7194-395255-11-4617-8040 - R 8060
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:50:14 +
>> From: jscott.pla...@gmx.com
>> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
>> To: kr...@mylist.net
>>
>> I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the 
>> only company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an 
>> export problem or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't 
>> getting rich doing this.
>>
>>  FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but 
>> historically she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you 
>> are outside the US boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the 
>> opposite, although I don't know if there is an issue with export for him. 
>> My personal experience with sellling parts ourside of the US was 
>> horrible, through no fault of either the buyer or seller.
>>
>>  There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay 
>> occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be 
>> your last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the 
>> legalities of the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one 
>> can't obtain a legal copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.
>>
>>  Jeff Scott
>>  Los Alamos, NM
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>>  Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than 
>> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning 
>> Fourie South Africa _
>> ___
>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>
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KR> KR2s plans and manual

[Patrick and Robin Russo]

Henning.
 I don.t Know what you mean by registered supplier". Tell us exactly what 
you are looking for. We may be able to advise you or help.We are a group 
that shares at the front door not thru the back door!
Pat
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From: "Henning" <h.fou...@vodamail.co.za>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: KR> KR2s plans and manual


> Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than
> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals.
>
>
>
> Henning Fourie
>
> South Africa
>
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KR> KR2s plans and manual

[Paulo De Tarso Montanaro]

good afternoom,
excuse-me people, I buy mine project with Steve Glover, and I was waiting for 3 
months and I dont think is good to copy a pirate project of "good google" You 
dont have a registration number, a copy have horrible details. It I think
best regards from Brasil

Paulo de Tarso Montanaro55-11-7194-395255-11-4617-8040 - R 8060


> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:50:14 +
> From: jscott.pla...@gmx.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2s plans and manual
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the only 
> company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an export 
> problem or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't getting rich 
> doing this.
> 
>  FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but historically 
> she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you are outside the 
> US boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the opposite, although I 
> don't know if there is an issue with export for him. My personal experience 
> with sellling parts ourside of the US was horrible, through no fault of 
> either the buyer or seller.
> 
>  There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay 
> occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be 
> your last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the 
> legalities of the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one can't 
> obtain a legal copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.
> 
>  Jeff Scott
>  Los Alamos, NM
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
>  Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than 
> nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning 
> Fourie South Africa _
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[Jeff Scott]

I am a bit puzzled. Why would you specifically not want to deal with the only 
company in existance trying to support the KR builders? Is it an export problem 
or a personal issue? I know Steve at NVAero sure isn't getting rich doing this.

 FWIW, you may be able to buy plans through Jeannette Rand, but historically 
she has been very difficult to deal with, especially if you are outside the US 
boarders. My experience with Steve has been just the opposite, although I don't 
know if there is an issue with export for him. My personal experience with 
sellling parts ourside of the US was horrible, through no fault of either the 
buyer or seller.

 There is an outfit that sells CDs with pirated plans on them on Ebay 
occasionally. Not very good quality from what I've heard, but that may be your 
last resort. Please, let's not get into a discussion about the legalities of 
the pirated plans. I don't like them either, but if one can't obtain a legal 
copy, then I'd go to that as a LAST resort.

 Jeff Scott
 Los Alamos, NM



- Original Message -

 Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than 
nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals. Henning Fourie 
South Africa _

KR> KR2s plans and manual

[Henning]

Could anyone please give me the contact details of companies (other than
nvaero) that are registered suppliers of KR2s plans and manuals.  



Henning Fourie

South Africa

KR> KR2S Plans

[ashwin belmar]

Dear sir ,
 I am  intrested in the set of plans i am located in India 
and building the airplane here . i will pay all the shipping charges to india .
how can i make the payment let me know

Capt.Ashwin Belmar


+91 9845570847
 CEO
 Belmar Aviation





From: Q500 . <q...@msn.com>
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 12:47:56 AM
Subject: KR> KR2S Plans

I have a set of KR2S Plans that are approx. 2 years old and have never been 
used.  They are in new condition. Due to health reasons I now need to sell 
them. 


Asking $250 and I will pay for shipping to U.S. addresses. All others, $250 
plus 
the actual cost of shipping.

If interested let me know.

Thank you,

Roger
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[Henning]

Good day Roger,
I am definitely interested in the plans. I have been trying to get plans
from nV Aero since early this year. They informed me that it will be
available early March 2011 but I have not heard anything from them since.
Are there any other KR2s plans suppliers besides them?

I am living in South Africa, if you are prepared to mail the plans to me I
can forward you my details.

Regards,
Henning Fourie 

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. 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 9:18 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> KR2S Plans

I have a set of KR2S Plans that are approx. 2 years old and have never been
used.  They are in new condition. Due to health reasons I now need to sell
them. 

Asking $250 and I will pay for shipping to U.S. addresses. All others, $250
plus the actual cost of shipping.

If interested let me know.

Thank you,

Roger
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[Q500 .]

I have a set of KR2S Plans that are approx. 2 years old and have never been 
used.  They are in new condition. Due to health reasons I now need to sell 
them. 

Asking $250 and I will pay for shipping to U.S. addresses. All others, $250 
plus the actual cost of shipping.

If interested let me know.

Thank you,

Roger

KR> KR2s Plans and Quick Build Parts

[Stephen Glover]

Hello Barry,

It looks like Jeanette is going to keep the plans for now.  As of our last
conversation she did say we would be able to list them through our web site
in addition to those who would prefer to purchase the regular mail method
through her.  We just received our resale license today and are awaiting the
credit card vendor to get us connected.  As of the Gathering or shortly
thereafter we will be live with product and will be taking orders.

I received confirmation today our cores for the new airfoil are up next to
be CNC'd so we should have the wings and center section by the time we
return from the Gathering as well.  I don't know how many would be
interested but we decided to go ahead and make skins for the entire tail
group also. 

Things are picking up speed now. We have an order for a fast build kit and
have three in process of being assembled. The shop is still not completely
organized but it will get there.  We are picking up a CNC hotwire for the
new design and are looking at a CNC water jet cutting machine to keep most
of our stuff in house.  There should be more info soon as well as revealed
at the Gathering...

Thanks for asking.

Regards,

Steve



-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:03 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> KR2s Plans and Quick Build Parts

Hey Steve Glover

Are you on selling KR2 Plans yet?
And have you got your WEB page of quick build parts for the KR2 up yet?

For those that missed it see Stephen Glover's emails for July 2, 2009 in the
archive.

Regards

Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia



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[Barry Kruyssen]

Hey Steve Glover

Are you on selling KR2 Plans yet?
And have you got your WEB page of quick build parts for the KR2 up yet?

For those that missed it see Stephen Glover's emails for July 2, 2009 in the
archive.

Regards

Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia

KR> KR2s Plans

[Todd Price]

Karl,
Yep I'm pulling the trigger and sending off my money order today or
tomorrow.

Todd

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Karl-Johannes Stich
wrote:

> Todd,
> yes, they will come. It took about 10 weeks to get my plans including
> shippping time.
> I sent am money order to Rand Robinson and got my plans!
>
> Karl Stich
> Paderborn, Germany
> > That's what I'm going to do.  I was just making sure that the plans were
> > still available.  Thanks for the info.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Pete  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Todd,
> >> FWIW the best bet is to take the KR leap of faith.
> >> Send a cheque with the appropriate details and wait.
> >> If you send it, they will come.
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >> Peter Bancks.
> >> Australia.
> >>
> >>
> >> Todd Price wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the
> >>> people at Rans to get back to you?
> >>>
> >>> Todd
> >>> Chandler,AZ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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[Todd Price]

Yes I forgot the D in Rands

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM, <airgu...@comcast.net> wrote:

> You say people at Rans - you mean Rand Robinson?
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Todd Price" <soneraipi...@gmail.com>
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 7:58:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: KR> KR2s Plans
>
> Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the
> people at Rans to get back to you?
>
> Todd
> Chandler,AZ
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[airgu...@comcast.net]

You say people at Rans - you mean Rand Robinson? 



- Original Message - 
From: "Todd Price" <soneraipi...@gmail.com> 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 7:58:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: KR> KR2s Plans 

Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the 
people at Rans to get back to you? 

Todd 
Chandler,AZ 
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[Karl-Johannes Stich]

Todd,
yes, they will come. It took about 10 weeks to get my plans including 
shippping time.
I sent am money order to Rand Robinson and got my plans!

Karl Stich
Paderborn, Germany
> That's what I'm going to do.  I was just making sure that the plans were
> still available.  Thanks for the info.
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Pete  wrote:
>
>   
>> Todd,
>> FWIW the best bet is to take the KR leap of faith.
>> Send a cheque with the appropriate details and wait.
>> If you send it, they will come.
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Peter Bancks.
>> Australia.
>>
>>
>> Todd Price wrote:
>> 
>>> Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the
>>> people at Rans to get back to you?
>>>
>>> Todd
>>> Chandler,AZ
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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[Todd Price]

That's what I'm going to do.  I was just making sure that the plans were
still available.  Thanks for the info.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Pete  wrote:

> Todd,
> FWIW the best bet is to take the KR leap of faith.
> Send a cheque with the appropriate details and wait.
> If you send it, they will come.
>
> Cheers.
> Peter Bancks.
> Australia.
>
>
> Todd Price wrote:
> > Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the
> > people at Rans to get back to you?
> >
> > Todd
> > Chandler,AZ
> >
> >
>
>
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[Pete]

Todd,
FWIW the best bet is to take the KR leap of faith.
Send a cheque with the appropriate details and wait.
If you send it, they will come.

Cheers.
Peter Bancks.
Australia.


Todd Price wrote:
> Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the
> people at Rans to get back to you?
>
> Todd
> Chandler,AZ
>
>   

KR> KR2s Plans

[Todd Price]

Are the KR2s plans still available or does it just take awhile for the
people at Rans to get back to you?

Todd
Chandler,AZ

KR> KR2S Plans

[Kenneth R Gallaher]

Hi Guys does anyone have a set of plans for sale KR2 or KR2S. Just reply to
keng...@gmail.com.
Thanks Kenneth Gallaher

KR> Kr2s plans

[Tim]

I'm curious about that, so will check.

*side note, thinking of your email address 'RdRacer'.Last night, two 
teenagers (18yrs) were caught Drag Racing on our 3000' runway, in there big 
4x4 P/U's (Oil Jobs)


- Original Message - 
From: 


> how much can it cost to ship plans?
>
> Todd  Thelin
> "The older I get...The faster I was!"
> rdrace...@aol.com

KR> Kr2s plans

[rdrace...@aol.com]

In a message dated 6/12/2009 6:45:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t...@telus.net writes:

Shipping  to India, would require $$$

I'd look closer to your area ie:  Europe


how much can it cost to ship plans?

Todd  Thelin
"The older I get...The faster I was!"
rdrace...@aol.com

912-596-8057
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KR> Kr2s plans

[Tim]

Shipping to India, would require $$$

I'd look closer to your area ie: Europe

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From: "ashwin belmar" <ashwinbel...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:07 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Kr2s plans



Dear tim,
I can send you a Bankers check for the amount if u donot want to give out ur 
bank ac no.
ashwin
--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Stephen Glover <n92...@cox.net> wrote:


From: Stephen Glover <n92...@cox.net>
Subject: RE: KR> Kr2s plans
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 6:50 PM


Hmmm, don't know if I would be sending my bank account number to India.
Paypal might be better Tim.


Steve Glover
Long-EZ N2121U
Former KR-2 N902G
Corona, CA
kr02g at cox.net



-Original Message-

Dear Tim.
I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your
plans if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i
can transfer $250 asap.


Thanking you best regards
ashwin

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[ashwin belmar]

Dear tim,
    I can send you a Bankers check for the amount if u donot want 
to give out ur bank ac no. 
ashwin
--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Stephen Glover <n92...@cox.net> wrote:


From: Stephen Glover <n92...@cox.net>
Subject: RE: KR> Kr2s plans
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 6:50 PM


Hmmm, don't know if I would be sending my bank account number to India.
Paypal might be better Tim.


Steve Glover
Long-EZ N2121U
Former KR-2 N902G
Corona, CA
kr02g at cox.net



-Original Message-

Dear Tim.
   I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your
plans if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i
can transfer $250 asap.
 
 
Thanking you best regards 
ashwin

l


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[virg...@bellsouth.net]

   I would be vey careful, Virg


Stephen Glover wrote:
> Hmmm, don't know if I would be sending my bank account number to India.
> Paypal might be better Tim.
>
>
> Steve Glover
> Long-EZ N2121U
> Former KR-2 N902G
> Corona, CA
> kr02g at cox.net
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> Dear Tim.
>I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your
> plans if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i
> can transfer $250 asap.
>  
>  
> Thanking you best regards 
> ashwin
>
> l
>
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[Tim]

Right after you send me yours  ;-)

- Original Message - 
From: "ashwin belmar" <ashwinbel...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s plans



Dear Tim.
I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your plans if it has not 
been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i can transfer $250 
asap.


Thanking you best regards
ashwin

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Tim <t...@telus.net> wrote:


From: Tim <t...@telus.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s plans
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:34 PM


Yes> KR2 Manual & Plans & KR2S supplements & W.Wynne Corvair converstion
manualAll serial Numbered Orginals from RRand

$250.usd

CldLk-Tim


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From: "Harry" <2ddha...@ceinternet.com.au>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: KR> Kr2s plans



Hi,
Does anybody have a set of KR2S plans they would
like to sell?
Harry
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[Stephen Glover]

Hmmm, don't know if I would be sending my bank account number to India.
Paypal might be better Tim.


Steve Glover
Long-EZ N2121U
Former KR-2 N902G
Corona, CA
kr02g at cox.net



-Original Message-

Dear Tim.
   I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your
plans if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i
can transfer $250 asap.
 
 
Thanking you best regards 
ashwin

l

KR> Kr2s plans

[ashwin belmar]

Dear Tim.
   I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your plans 
if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i can 
transfer $250 asap.
 
 
Thanking you best regards 
ashwin

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Tim <t...@telus.net> wrote:


From: Tim <t...@telus.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s plans
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:34 PM


Yes>  KR2 Manual & Plans & KR2S supplements & W.Wynne Corvair converstion 
manualAll serial Numbered Orginals from RRand

$250.usd

CldLk-Tim


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From: "Harry" <2ddha...@ceinternet.com.au>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: KR> Kr2s plans



Hi,
Does anybody have a set of KR2S plans they would
like to sell?
Harry
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[Tim]

Yes>  KR2 Manual & Plans & KR2S supplements & W.Wynne Corvair converstion 
manualAll serial Numbered Orginals from RRand

$250.usd

CldLk-Tim


- Original Message - 
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To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: KR> Kr2s plans



Hi,
Does anybody have a set of KR2S plans they would
like to sell?
Harry
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[virg...@bellsouth.net]

Yes Rand Robinson, Virg


Harry wrote:
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> Does anybody have a set of KR2S plans they would
> like to sell?
> Harry
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[Harry]

Hi,
Does anybody have a set of KR2S plans they would
like to sell?
Harry

KR> KR2S PLANS

[Allen Wiesner]

FWIW

In the standard assembly procedure "N" is supposed to be left out until the 
Stab. is installed.
When I started I had had a full scale print made of the side layout and 
measured all of the stringers.
"N" measured 10.75", inside to inside on the longerons, but note that that is 
the vertical (flat) dimension.
That's all the info I have since the Fat Lady is oversize in all dim's. and 
since she has been built using a different 
assembly procedure.  

 Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS S/N 1118  T/D / CorvAIR
65 Franklin Street
Ansonia, CT  06401-1240


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From: Bill Weir <billw...@lon.imag.net>
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 8:06:50 AM
Subject: KR> KR2S PLANS

Have just started KR2S and am laying out sides on table. Using the plans sheet 
for the 'S is good until I come to the rear. I guess what I need is the 
dimension for "N". Like, Help".

Bill Weir
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KR> KR2S PLANS

[Bill Weir]

Have just started KR2S and am laying out sides on table. Using the plans sheet 
for the 'S is good until I come to the rear. I guess what I need is the 
dimension for "N". Like, Help".

Bill Weir

KR> KR2S plans

[psh...@netscape.com]

I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read about the 
delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have a pristene set of 
plans and or just started project for sale? Reply to psh...@netscape.com, oh 
yeh I live in South Mississippi.
IHS  PAT S

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KR> KR2S plans

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
about delays, Virg

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700  writes:
> 
> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read 
> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have 
> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply 
> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
> IHS  PAT S
> 
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KR> KR2S plans

[skp...@charter.net]

Just put a check in the mail for the plans and the supplement for the "S".  
Start getting your shop in order. Your plans will arrive without a phone call. 
You will then need to send in the registration page and let the fun begin.

Also let us know who and where you are.  KR people get around a lot and might 
be able to stop by to see your progress and help with questions. I travel to 
south Mississippi quite often.

Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama


 psh...@netscape.com wrote: 
> 
> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read about the 
> delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have a pristene set of 
> plans and or just started project for sale? Reply to psh...@netscape.com, oh 
> yeh I live in South Mississippi.
> IHS  PAT S
> 

KR> KR2S plans

[Dan Heath]

Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
either keep at it, or build something else. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 06/08/07 15:40:00
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans

Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
about delays, Virg

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700 <psh...@netscape.com> writes:
>
> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read
> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have
> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply
> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
> IHS  PAT S
>
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KR> KR2S plans

[D Lively]

Pat:

I purchased my original set of plans from Ken Rand himself at his office in 
Huntington Beach in '76.  I since took over a project  complete with plans.  I 
spoke with Jenette Rand at the last gathering and about a month ago I got 
around to transferring the registration of the plans I got with my project via 
fax about a month ago and about a week later or so she called to confirm all of 
 the information with me by telephone.  She did this though there was nothing 
additional in it for her.

I am sure she will contact you but be patient for at this time of  year there 
are many EAA Fly-ins and suspect she attends many which means there will be a 
lot of time away from the office and it is as businesses go a small operation 
but she is dedicated.

Donald Lively
Burlington IA 52601




- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


> Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
> left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
> either keep at it, or build something else. 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
> Date: 06/08/07 15:40:00
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans
> 
>Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
> about delays, Virg
> 
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700 <psh...@netscape.com> writes:
>>
>> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read
>> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have
>> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply
>> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
>> IHS  PAT S
>>
>> _
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>>
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KR> KR2S plans

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
> left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
> either keep at it, or build something else.

I guess if you're a trend analyst, the next step in this progression would
be a check in a bottle...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
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KR> KR2S plans

[John]

I have an original receipt for plans that came with my kr2, but the
plans are all 8 1/2 by 11" photocopies.  were the original plans full
sized?  I have no rib or former templates, etc.

jg

KR> KR2S plans

[kenneth l wiltrout]

It's funny how it works with the FAA, 8 yrs ago during the certification
process they asked what the ser # was, I could have said anything but I used
the # Jenette gave me. I got the impression they just wanted a # and could
care less. The last thing the FAA will do is check up on anything
experimental.

Kenny Wiltrout
Kutztown, Pa

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Of D Lively
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:59 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: psh...@netscpe.com
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans

Pat:

I purchased my original set of plans from Ken Rand himself at his office in
Huntington Beach in '76.  I since took over a project  complete with plans.
I spoke with Jenette Rand at the last gathering and about a month ago I got
around to transferring the registration of the plans I got with my project
via fax about a month ago and about a week later or so she called to confirm
all of  the information with me by telephone.  She did this though there was
nothing additional in it for her.

I am sure she will contact you but be patient for at this time of  year
there are many EAA Fly-ins and suspect she attends many which means there
will be a lot of time away from the office and it is as businesses go a
small operation but she is dedicated.


Donald Lively
Burlington IA 52601





- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


> Faxed her early last week, with my return fax number, no answer.  Called
> left a message early this week, answer.  This is typical, you just have to
> either keep at it, or build something else. 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
> Date: 06/08/07 15:40:00
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans
> 
>Fax to RR and leave a return Phone Number. Ask her
> about delays, Virg
> 
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:39:36 -0700 <psh...@netscape.com> writes:
>>
>> I had started writing a check for the KR2S plans, and then read
>> about the delays.  So I thought I would try this first.  Anyone have
>> a pristene set of plans and or just started project for sale? Reply
>> to psh...@netscape.com, oh yeh I live in South Mississippi.
>> IHS  PAT S
>>
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KR> KR2S plans

[D Lively]

John:

There Plans I have and even the original set had Full size inboard & outboard 
plywood rib dwgs plus a full size bulk head drawing plus a few other of some 
lesser metal parts.  Those full size plywood rib & firewall drawings are 
indispensable as you can accurately trace them to piece of paper or using 
carbon paper transfer the outline to a template which makes things easier and 
less prone to you making an error.

I do not think you have everything.  The large rib template were not continuous 
mut multi-piece with match lines but they were full size.  I then copied them, 
put the match lines together & guled it onto a piece of masonite and made a 
full size template to assure all ribs were the same.

I am sure that with the reciept No. she will get you what you need but you may 
need to pay something for the copies & shipping.  She may also what an 
explanation about the copy you have to assure that someone did not violate RR 
copyrights.   She knows who the plans were sold to originally.

Don Lively
Burlington IA




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To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


>I have an original receipt for plans that came with my kr2, but the
> plans are all 8 1/2 by 11" photocopies.  were the original plans full
> sized?  I have no rib or former templates, etc.
> 
> jg
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> KR2S Plans for Sale

[Nick Brennan]

I am selling the plans for my KR2S.

They are 100% complete, and only about 3 months old.

I'm looking for $200 + actual shipping cost.

I'll take either Paypal or a check (if check, the check's gotta clear first).

Nick
nickdbren...@comcast.net

KR> KR2S Plans for Sale

[Solly Melyon]

Hello nick,
  I hope I'm the first guy to respond.  I am interested in the plans and 
agreeing to the price you ask. 
  I'll be traveling tomorrow  but will try to check my mail.  Please provide an 
address to send you the check or a bank check by Monday.
  In any case my cell #  404.667.2828
  Thanks, Solly melyon

Nick Brennan  wrote:
  I am selling the plans for my KR2S.

They are 100% complete, and only about 3 months old.

I'm looking for $200 + actual shipping cost.

I'll take either Paypal or a check (if check, the check's gotta clear first).

Nick
nickdbren...@comcast.net
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KR> KR2S plans

[Harry Matthews]

Hi,
Has anybody got a set KR2S plans they would like to sell?
Harry.

KR> KR2S plans for sale

[k...@spottedowl.biz]

Harry, and all

I've discovered that for me building a plane is not going to be realistic.
I have a set of KR2S plans that need a new home.  I am the second owner and
neither of us built anything.  The first owner included around a ream of
printouts from the KR archives. He also faxed RR to tell them he had sold
the set to me.  I will do the same for who ever buys it. The price list in
the set shows Nov 2000 prices.

I would like to get $175 plus shipping for the set.  The box weighs about 10
pounds.
UPS wants $160 to ship to Australia.  The US Post office wants $60 for 4-10
days and $30 for 4-6 weeks.

For those stateside, I would also consider parts for a 1983 Mercedes 300D as
trade, especially a working cruise control amplifier.

This what I have so you can confirm it is a complete set.

3 ring binder with 118 page manual
drawing "the KR-2"
Kr2 firewall template
KR2 Drawing No. 2  May 1986 release change letter B Inboard and outboard
wing template ..
KR2 Drawing No. 1 Change B 3-31-88  Fuselage Assembly

Sheet W1 KR-2S Spar Details
Sheet W2  KR-2S Wing details
Sheet W3 KR-2S Airfoils
Kr2s firewall template
Drawing A  KR2s Horizontal Framing Layout
Drawing B  KR2s  Shows stabilizer Ribs and spars and hinge details
There is also a brochure with RR parts kits and a price sheet that shows
prices effective Nov 2000.

--
Wesley Scott
k...@spottedowl.biz
Bryan, TX 77803

KR> KR2S plans

[bobby burington]

Hello All,

I have found an old VW motor in the back of a neighbors garage but I'm not 
shure where the numbers are or what numbers to look for to tell the model 
number or if it is a usable motor. So hopefully someone out there can email 
with the location of the numbers and what to look for.  Or, if you could tell 
me a referance book to get on the VW motor that has all the info, I could do 
that also.

Thanks
Bobby
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KR> KR2S plans

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Read off the serial number of the engine. It is a long number
on the case. Send it along and I will see if I can cross reference for 
you, Virg

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) bobby burington
 writes:
> Hello All,
> 
> I have found an old VW motor in the back of a neighbors garage but 
> I'm not shure where the numbers are or what numbers to look for to 
> tell the model number or if it is a usable motor. So hopefully 
> someone out there can email with the location of the numbers and 
> what to look for.  Or, if you could tell me a referance book to get 
> on the VW motor that has all the info, I could do that also.
> 
> Thanks
> Bobby
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KR> KR2S plans

[Myron (Dan) Freeman]

Hi Bobby;

It's usually located on the top of the case (or block) near the oil fill 
area (pulley end) or on some it may be on the top near the flywheel end. 
I've seen them in different locations but always on the top of the block to 
the best of my knowledge.

Regards
Myron (Dan) Freeman
Indpls, Ind. 46203 USA. Home of the
2007 World Champion Indpls, Colt's
mfreem...@indy.rr.com
Posted - Sunday, 03/25/07 5:17 pm 

KR> KR2S Plans

[Phil Matheson]

I posted Australian Bank Cheque off to RR on the 6th Dec 06.
My plans arrived today 2nd Jan 07.
Not to bad, and did not have to hassle them.
Thanks R & R.

Phil Matheson
VH-PKR
Australia
KR Web Page
www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/

KR> kr2s plans

[Chad and Jackie Stenson]

Anyone got a set of complete KR2S plans they want to sell?  Looking at 
starting a build this winter.

Thanks
chad

KR> kr2s plans

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Fax Rand Robinson, Virg
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:17:13 -0600 Chad and Jackie Stenson
 writes:
> Anyone got a set of complete KR2S plans they want to sell?  Looking 
> at 
> starting a build this winter.
> 
> Thanks
> chad
> 
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Miami ,Fl

KR> kr2s plans

[Steven Phillabaum]

Dear Chad and Jackie Stenson;

I spent more on plastic clamps that I needed than I did on the plans to build 
the KR. PLEASE JUST ORDER THEM.  When the plans arrive you will feel you have 
jumped over the line and you will be on your way.  Good Luck
> 
> From: Chad and Jackie Stenson <cjsten...@ameritech.net>
> Date: 2005/11/08 Tue PM 08:17:13 EST
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> kr2s plans
> 
> Anyone got a set of complete KR2S plans they want to sell?  Looking at 
> starting a build this winter.
> 
> Thanks
> chad
> 
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Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama

KR> KR2S plans

[Mark Langford]

Dennis Mingear wrote:

>Should I order the 2S plan supplement sheets.

Absolutely.  Lots of details that were left out of the KR2 plans, as well as
improvements.  Certainly worth 75 bucks in the grand scheme of building a KR
anything.  They are basically a sheet or two to add to the manual and
several large drawings.  They could stand to be much better, but then they
would cost much more.

Info available at http://www.fly-kr.com/kr2s.htm .  It's sort of interesting
that not many people are referred to this link, but it is the offocial Rand
Robinson web site.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
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KR> KR2S plans

[Dennis Mingear]

Thanks for the info Mark, it is very much appreciated. Denny

Mark Langford  wrote:Dennis Mingear wrote:

>Should I order the 2S plan supplement sheets.

Absolutely. Lots of details that were left out of the KR2 plans, as well as
improvements. Certainly worth 75 bucks in the grand scheme of building a KR
anything. They are basically a sheet or two to add to the manual and
several large drawings. They could stand to be much better, but then they
would cost much more.

Info available at http://www.fly-kr.com/kr2s.htm . It's sort of interesting
that not many people are referred to this link, but it is the offocial Rand
Robinson web site.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> KR2S Plans #1087

[StRaNgEdAyS]

Hello there all!
I figured I'd chip in with an introduction.
My name is Peter Bancks, My wife Sarah and I live in the sunny (but cold at
the moment) South East of Queensland Australia. We recently recieved KR2 and
KR2S plans # 9670 and #1087 respectively. We intend on building the S
variant.
We are about 2 hours out of Brisbane in a small country town called
Blackbutt (yes REALLY).
Out here there is not a lot to distract us from the task of building our
first plane together (apart from the fact my wife is currently 8 weeks
pregnant with our first child), so we hope to have it completed within 2
years. I do believe a friend of mine shot Murphy (of Murphy's Law fame) last
week, so until they find a replacement (probably Shamus, Murphy's second
cousin) we should be able to make some decent progress!
That's about all for now, will keep you all posted, and submit a web address
to be added to the KRnet.org list as it gets done.
Cheers,
Peter and Sarah Bancks

KR> KR2S Plans #1087

[Ronald Metcalf]

Out here there is not a lot to distract us from the task of building our 
first plane together

>>>

Good Luck Pete (& Sarah)

I am sure you have already done this, but if not, research the mods that are 
most popular before you start.

After many months of doing exactly that, for what it is worth, I believe 
that a KR2S with the cockpit widened to 39" (or so) and the fuselage 
stretched something like 4" ahead of the main spar and AT LEAST 14" aft of 
the rear spar makes for a near perfect and very cost effective 2 seat 
airplane.

These mods are relatively simple and have no negative impact on the design 
intergity (strength) of the fuselage.  The do impact on factory supplied 
canopy and deckings.

There are tons of other mods including the updated with section, better 
hinges for the tail feathers etc. - then a thousand engine options ranging 
from Rotary, through Veedub to Vair, or a regular certified motor - even a 
turbine if you wish.

You will have ample time to consider these in the months (years) ahead.  The 
mods mentioned above happen in the early stages of building and need a 
decision before you start.

Good luck
Ron

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KR> KR2S Plans #1087

[Allen G. Wiesner]

>Hello there all!
>I figured I'd chip in with an introduction.
>My name is Peter Bancks, My wife Sarah and I live in the sunny (but cold at
>the moment) South East of Queensland Australia. We recently received KR2 and
>KR2S plans # 9670 and #1087 respectively. We intend on building the S
>variant.

>I do believe a friend of mine shot Murphy (of Murphy's Law fame) last
>week, so until they find a replacement (probably Shamus, Murphy's second
>cousin) we should be able to make some decent progress!

Welcome to the group.  I assume your friend is a relative of Ned Kelly. 

Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 
65 Franklin Street
Ansonia, CT 06401
(203) 732-0508

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KR> KR2S Plans #1087

[Phillip Matheson]

Peter & Sarah
Welcome.
We have a few builders here in Australia, If I can be of any help please
contact me, I'll send another email off the net, to welcome you again.

Phillip Matheson
mathe...@dodo.com.au
Australia
VH PKR
See our engines  and kits at.
http://www.vw-engines.com/
http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
See my KR at Mark Jones web
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html

KR>Kr2s plans and ply wood for sale

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 Kr2s plans and aircraft plywood sides already cut to size and one 4'x8' full 
size.one firewall not cut yet.and side frames glued together allmost ready for 
ply skin .$400.00.takes it all .I allso have a corvair engine ready for 
conversion allready taken apart and cleaned 200.00 Bob At (936)854-2644

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Where ar eyou at Bob? I might be interested.

David Mikesell
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KR>KR2S Plans

[ggrabow...@lwtm.com]

I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S.  I have reviewed plans
sets before for large projects such as airplanes and sailboats, and often
found that the clarity and quality were poor, even for the more expensive
sets.  I'm trying to solicit some feedback to ensure that this is not the
case with the KR plans.  Although what constitutes good quality and clarity
is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback from those that have
already built (or are building) from these plan sets would be a good
indication.  Any comments would be most appreciated.  Thanks.

Greg S. Grabowski
Systems Manager
Leatherwood Walker Todd & Mann, P.C.
(864) 240-2440
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KR>KR2S Plans

[wa7...@aol.com]

 I think positive or negative feedback from those that have
already built (or are building) from these plan sets would be a good
indication.  Any comments would be most appreciated.  Thanks.
Greg S. Grabowski

I had an early set and found all the information on them I needed.
With the KR net for support you will have help other builders don't have.
Just be sure it's the plane for you, hopefully without too many changes.
Lynn Hyder

KR>KR2S Plans

[F Ross]

--- ggrabow...@lwtm.com wrote:
> I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S. 

> is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback
> from those that have
> already built (or are building) from these plan sets
> would be a good
> indication.  Any comments would be most appreciated.

Greg,
The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the
case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of
KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd
get an idea of how difficult building it would be.
Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find
the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same
for the KR-1 plans.


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EAA Chapter 35,
San Geronimo, TX
RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK
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KR>KR2S Plans

[ggrabow...@lwtm.com]

Frank,

Thank-you for your response.  I must admit, I'm a little skeptical as I've
had several negative responses.  I really want to build a wooden aircraft,
and I think I've narrowed my choices to the KR2S or a GP-4 (there don't seem
to be many choices available).  I really don't want to buy the kits, and
would like to fabricate my own from the plans.  Are the KR2S plans
sufficiently detailed to allow this, or are they simply assembly plans that
require you to purchase the parts prefabricated?  Thank-you again for your
insight.

Greg  



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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:37 AM
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans


--- ggrabow...@lwtm.com wrote:
> I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S.

> is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback
> from those that have
> already built (or are building) from these plan sets
> would be a good
> indication.  Any comments would be most appreciated.

Greg,
The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the
case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of
KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd
get an idea of how difficult building it would be.
Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find
the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same
for the KR-1 plans.


=
Frank Ross, 
EAA Chapter 35,
San Geronimo, TX
RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK
alamo...@yahoo.com

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KR>KR2S Plans

[Bob Sauer]

Greg,

I have fabricated all my own parts for my KR2S without any difficulty. It
does take some studying and several times over the plans, but for the basic
airframe, its all there. No engine forward, landing gear, instrument panel
or hydraulic brakes, but all of this stuff is available on the internet. It
just takes time.

Bob Sauer
Sun City West, AZ
From: resa...@cox.net
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To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: KR>KR2S Plans


> Frank,
>
> Thank-you for your response.  I must admit, I'm a little skeptical as I've
> had several negative responses.  I really want to build a wooden aircraft,
> and I think I've narrowed my choices to the KR2S or a GP-4 (there don't
seem
> to be many choices available).  I really don't want to buy the kits, and
> would like to fabricate my own from the plans.  Are the KR2S plans
> sufficiently detailed to allow this, or are they simply assembly plans
that
> require you to purchase the parts prefabricated?  Thank-you again for your
> insight.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: F Ross [mailto:alamo...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: KR builders and pilots
> Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans
>
>
> --- ggrabow...@lwtm.com wrote:
> > I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S.
> 
> > is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback
> > from those that have
> > already built (or are building) from these plan sets
> > would be a good
> > indication.  Any comments would be most appreciated.
>
> Greg,
> The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the
> case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of
> KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd
> get an idea of how difficult building it would be.
> Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find
> the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same
> for the KR-1 plans.
>
>
> =
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> EAA Chapter 35,
> San Geronimo, TX
> RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK
> alamo...@yahoo.com
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KR>KR2S Plans

[Joseph H. Horton]

Greg 
What Bob said is correct except that I found that when I ordered some of
the kit packages from Rand Robinson that additional instruction came with
each item. With the top deck premolds and header tank there was at least
10 additional pages, with the landing gear and brakes there was also
another 8 or 10 pages of instructions. I do not know why they aren't
provided with the book and I also believe it should be. Bottom line is
that the plane can be built from the instructions and having accesss to
all the information provided here on the net can put you months ahead of
the way I started 9 long years ago.
Good Luck -- Joe Horton 
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:27:22 -0700 "Bob Sauer"  writes:
> Greg,
> 
> I have fabricated all my own parts for my KR2S without any 
> difficulty. It
> does take some studying and several times over the plans, but for 
> the basic
> airframe, its all there. No engine forward, landing gear, instrument 
> panel
> or hydraulic brakes, but all of this stuff is available on the 
> internet. It
> just takes time.
> 
> Bob Sauer
> Sun City West, AZ
> From: resa...@cox.net
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KR>KR2S Plans - wood airplanes.....

[KRJerry]

.Gavin,

You might take a look at Falconer (Canada) airplanes. 

KRJerry
Jerry Mahurin
Lugoff, SC
e-mail: krje...@bellsouth.net
Website: http://KR-Builder.org 
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Subject: RE: KR>KR2S Plans

Frank,

Thank-you for your response. I must admit, I'm a little skeptical as I've
had several negative responses. I really want to build a wooden aircraft,
and I think I've narrowed my choices to the KR2S or a GP-4 (there don't seem
to be many choices available). I really don't want to buy the kits, and
would like to fabricate my own from the plans. Are the KR2S plans
sufficiently detailed to allow this, or are they simply assembly plans that
require you to purchase the parts prefabricated? Thank-you again for your
insight.

Greg



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From: F Ross [mailto:alamo...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:37 AM
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans


--- ggrabow...@lwtm.com wrote:
> I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S.

> is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback
> from those that have
> already built (or are building) from these plan sets
> would be a good
> indication. Any comments would be most appreciated.

Greg,
The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the
case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of
KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd
get an idea of how difficult building it would be.
Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find
the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same
for the KR-1 plans.


=
Frank Ross,
EAA Chapter 35,
San Geronimo, TX
RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK
alamo...@yahoo.com

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