[lace] old postings
Hello spiders For those looking for the list what to bring with you and other subjects: Old postings can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/ Jo Falkink with a faster online grid generator on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Browsers -was roseground
Tamara wrote: That's *5* browsers, all of them more stable than the Internet Explorer, for which reason they're recommended by most computer-knowledgeable people and quite popular. So I really think that between them they're likely to be used by much more than 1-1.5% of Internet-connected people. Don't know how the number 1-5% came into my head. Examining my own counter 82% of the visitors have MS-IE 5.0 or higher. Examining http://www.lokk.nl it's even 94% That makes 6-18% non MS-IE. Or else the writer is someone with an overweening ego: take my way, or the highway... Well, I'm happy to take the highway; there are more interesting people there to meet :) I agree. But this list is the wrong place to complain, if each arachnean would try to convince A.P. Limouzin he should convert from XML to HTML before publishing It would make the main part of his site accessible. I tried once again today. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] online grid generator
Dear spiders who tried http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html in vain: it should be working now. Sorry, for MS-IE 5.0+ only. With another browser you have to download some program anyway so I didn't re-invent those wheels. Wheels that will be much faster anyway. By the way, afer the first time you don't need to be online to push the generate button. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] roseground
A french site has very good pictures. Some pages I had to try a few times until they worked. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html select cours from the menu under etudes des fond press the button lancer le cours or try directly http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/fonds/ select: fonds de mariage Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Browsers -was roseground
... but in general it's not good practice to make a site inaccesible to a lot of potential visitors. It's a choice of the webmaster whether he/she considers something like 1-5% as a lot. What is it that IE 5.5 for Windows can do that 5.2 for Mac can't? ... Brenda Andre-Piere Limouzin is using modern techniques like XML and VML. These techniques are not yet widely supported. I already tried to explain him he should do the translation from XML to HTML before publishing the pages, but failed to convince him, perhaps if more complain... He does speak English but he explained me English emails are likely to be ignored (considered spam). As for the utf-8 Character Encoding, that might be caused by being French. I'm using myself VML on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-NL.html only supported by MS-IE 5.0 and newer. This technique creates pictures that are razorsharp on paper and at any scale. There is an alternative for VML but then visitors have to install something similar to acrobat reader for PDF files. So I had a choice: disappoint some of my vistors for a small part of my site, or enforce all to download software, which they usually won't do: afraid of trouble, too 'puter-illiterate or too lazy. Jo Falkink On 21 May 2005, at 16:24, J.Falkink-Pol wrote: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html select cours from the menu under etudes des fond press the button lancer le cours - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Prague visit report
Hello Spiders A while ago I asked for lacy places in Pague, Faye Owers requested a report as she also plans a trip, so here it is for others as well. Anne Bednar Garrison reccommended a shop of Iva Prokov on http://www.palickovani.cz When I tried too look for the street Chalabalova, it appeared to be in the outskirts of Prague and I gave up supposing it was a private address. Somehow I failed to notice the website is of the Zcech lace association. As they also have English pages I'd sugest to ask them for more information. Places where I spotted lace: Clockwise round the Old Town square: second shop past the Nicolas church (which is direct on the square) you'll find the Vlasta Galeria, between the yellow arches past the Tyn church (which hides between another building) you'll find downstarirs a painted silk shop. The souvenir shops at the lower entrances (one hidden in an arch on Valdstejnske nam 162) of the Palace Gardens. The church of Our Lady of Victory. An antique shop named AHASVER in the street street Prokopska. Linnenshops where the Karlova/Husova cross, on the Celetna (on your left hand) a third one I forgot to note down. The church, the silk shop and souvenir shops mainly sell typical Czech picture lace: portraits styled like on ttp://mujweb.cz/www/palickovani/index.htm castle views, madonnas and the infant Jesus (http://www.pragjesu.info ). The more hidden garden entrance also had some evening dresses and more artistic pieces. Someone wrote she was sorry to have skipped the Golden Lane because of its entrance fee. Don't be. It was included in our all in one ticket. The rest we valued, but the Golden Lane is just a street with cramped tourist shops. The litle lace I spotted frome the street appeared to be ugly sewn at the corners when taking a closer look. Janice Blair supposed the Vlasta Galeria was the shop that closed the door for OIDFA members. I can imagine. The shop has written elite all over it, and sells at rather elite than relatively cheap prices. The cheapest set of earrings where 1800 crowns, about 60 Euros. Everywhere signs to forbid fotographing. I hardly needed one. Looking just twice for less than 5 minutes and back in my hotel I could draft the designs of at least 5 different models. With an invasion of skilled lacemakers the whole collection would lay on the street, and a crowded shop doesn't look very elite, wouldn't it? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Prague
Hello Spiders Within a litle less than 2 weeks I'm visiting Prague with my husband for a short holiday. What lace shops/exibitions could there be left in the city? I tried a German list but the only answer I got was the national museum. But I also vaguely remember stories about shops closing down as soon as the owners spotted OIDFA visitors. So there must be more. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Travel restrictions
Hello Ruth and Dona As it is off-topic and I'm not on chat, I'm answering privately. Australia must have good winds, as I heard foot and mouth disease reached the UK through certain high winds after sand storms in the North African desert. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] please not only tiny urls
Hello Spiders The tiny urls may be convenient to prevent having to copy and paste long urls back together. But every advantage has its disadvantage. It makes it hard for me to me to recognize wether the final url is already in the collection of bobbin lace links (http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linknew-EN.html) on my website. I already have too little time to maintain this collection as I would like. Please also list the original url along with the tiny URL or check by yourself on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html whether it is a new site and notify me. hmm, checking these pages I see it needs repairs (done while writing this message), why did nobody complain? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] The spelling of such a name
Hello spiders Tell your keyboard to behave mid European and accents wait for vowels to sit on them, coonvenient for French too. Type something else and it becomes a plain single/double/back quote. Close to the calculator and paint you can find sepcial symbols, no cheat sheet required any more. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] btbunn1
Who knows btbunn1 signing with Brenda? She was so wrong, it made me suspicious. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] atract young lacemakers
Except conventions there's another point of concern to attract young lacemakers. Let me tell my own story. I started lace making at my mid-teens with a few books. Those days I never thought of seeking contact with other lace makers, lacemaking was just one of many things I experimented with. I just happened to have a lacemaking classmate between the age of 18-22 we exchanged a few patterns but didn't work together, the mainly male classmates sniggerd already enough. Wonder what became of her. No internet those days. Just one computer with about 8 terminals for more than 90 informatics students. At a working but still single age the lack of contact became troublesome, for example I couldn't find thread thin enough for Honiton so I started to unravel all kinds of cloth. Most threads were too week, others made my bobbins jump all over the pillow. But then I discoverd a booklet with a contact adress. The woman lived almost at a walking distance! I wanted courses for the more complicated lace types. Despite the crowded city where I lived then, no evening lessons were available at a bycicle distance. Only at daytime but then I had to work for a living. Years later I bought myself a car, then she located for me a reachable group gathering at evenings. My later husband called it a kantkloskletsklubje. A word to break your tongue (which k is followes by an l and which not?). Kantklos is lace bobbin, kletsen is chit-chatting, klubje is a little group. Not very much teaching but a lot of inspiration and opportunities to find the specilized lace suppliers. Just what I needed, as a course might have required too much time to keep up with the rest off the class. Today I feel guilty as I myself am teaching (beginners) only at daytime on my one-day off per week. But I need the evening to recover enough to be able to sleep and go sound to work the next day. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] threads
Helen As you already noticed Brenda is our thread expert, but I collected some more from the web on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-EN.html Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] visit to the Netherlands
Hello Shirley It is a pitty you are just a week too early. 16-20 March Breda has a Textile festival, including a lace workshop with Ulrike Löhr! Consider a trip to Brugge, might be one or two hours by train. Brussels is even closer: Museum voor het Kostuum en de Kant Violetstraat 12 (new entrance), Brussels (Belgium) mo-vr 10-12.30 and 13.30-17 (wedn closed) en sa-sun 14-17 http://www.brucity.be/ Verfijnde Kunstnijverheid - lace in the 19e and 20e century Jubelpark 10, Brussels tue-vr 9.30-17 uur sa-sun 10-17 uur http://www.kmkg-mrah.be/ Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] split cloth stitch quadrants
Hello spiders The current pattern of the month is much clearer. http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/leanne.htm I looks like a simple runner and pins inside. But previously I guessed the top and bottom were too airy, so they evolved like drawn at the bottom of http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/Spleet-als-spin.gif The crossed spider principle intrigues me, but as I'm a visual type I don't understand, I gave it a try in the same drawing. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] split cloth stitch quadrants
Hello Spiders http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/bestbookmarks.htm and several other Torchon patterns on the same site show split cloth stitch quadrants. Te pictures are vague. I tried to immitate them as shown on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/spleten.jpg It looks like happy a mutant. Can somebody tell or show me how to do these? Another attempt made te top and bottom to disjunct. So I'm puzzled. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Knipling user group
Hello Spiders I created an international group for (would be) users of the Knipling software where they can help one another. You can read more and join at http://groups.msn.com/ksug For those wo didn't get response from http://www.knipling.de please try http://www.nytiknipling.dk/ The site is Danish but at the bottom you'll find an e-mail address, they do speak English. Jo Faklink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] online grid generator
Hello Spiders For those with Micorsofts Internet Explorer I published an on-line grid generator on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html As I'm not too familiair with inches, I would like to know what would be usual distances between pins, and how do you spell these values? Brenda: the speed (or rather the lack of it) must remind you of old days. So I'm afraid this method is too slow for your fantasy grids. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] liggende poes
You might want to cut pieces of say 15 cm / 6 inch per passive pair, and knot that to some cheap thread with the same twist. For the runner you'll need more, take a colour that is not used as a runner or for the fillings. The knots may work awfull, but give you a probe of about 5 cm / 2 inches with a minimum of thread used. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] wire lace with hammer and nails
Hello Spiders http://www.kantopleiding-nko.nl/Aktiviteiten/Aktiviteiten.html by Joep Verhoeven, student of the Design Academy in Eindhoven with the help of the NKO. We have a TV personality called Joep van 't Hek. So this Fence of Youp is a word play. Speaking of promoting lace without remebering the youg of their great-grand-ma's... What about armoured glass? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Amsterdam Rijksmuseum
Lynn Carpenter wrote When we visited in the fall of 1998, we saw lots of lace. I remember having visited the Rijksmuseum some years ago for a special *temporal* exhibition. I saw about wat Lynn described. The exhibition was on the occasion of the 75's aniversay of the Kantsalet and the lace was their posesion, not the museum's. That explains the 75 I saw recently on this list too. I'm not sure wether that was 1998. I checked the items of the Kantbrief of that year but didn't find any reference. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 117 etc.
Hello Spiders Usually our houses are bigger, but one of the authors of Kant uit Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer has a living room of only 15x10 foot and sometimes teached 5 at a time. As she sais: Where there's a will, there's a way. I myself don't do much advertising. I used to have name-cards in the local needlework shop, but now only have the internet and still I had to say no a few times this season. Sadly the needlework shop isn't wat it used to be some 5 or 10 years ago. Their reaction: we used to be able to order for a single piece, that became 2, 5, 10. It lays too long and the colours fade before we can sell. So the wholesalers also play a sad role in the supplying chain. Quantity over quality. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoers / difficult name
We could say Den Moer instead of 's Gravenmoers maybe? Those things only happen for big cities. Like we call Paris Parijs en Köln Keulen, like you call Den Haag The Hague but don't translate lesser known villages. Nobody would understand you with Den Moer. We also have a neighbouring village Moerkappelle Chappel in the moor/shwamp. So den Moer wouldn't distinguish. I would like that - I trip over the apostrophe, first off vbg You would trip also over the pronounciation of the sch, only possible by Dutch, Swiss and Arabs. 'schuine' I think would translate to 'diagonal' let's call it Schuine Half-Stitch (Torchon) :p I would stick to Diagonal Half Stitch Torchon, recognisable and pronouncable for everyone. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] aficot?
Jean Barrett What is a horn aficot? I didn't find it in the dictionary. Jo Faklink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] bobowa
Hello Tamara and Weronika On a German list I found the link http://www.kloeppelstube.com/frset-tipps.html Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: measuring transparency
Hello Mary Might this page have what you meant ? http://www.lacemakerusa.com/thread/supplies.htm Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] pair or two singles
I sometimes use an intermediate form of throwing in pairs: Half of the bobbins I wind as full as possible. For the other half I try to assess the length needed (has been explained before, try to search the archive http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/), and wind just that on the other bobbin, or even knot very short ends to pre-wound bobbins (don't mix Z and S twist, they'll undo each others twist). That reduces constant winding / dsicarding / running by half. Sometimes I cheat with an extra twist (not within half stitches) to exchange long and short threads. This however takes more care for tensioning. Ulricke Loehr's Handbuch mit 400 Tricks und Kniffen shows how to recover from half stitch mistakes. German but the drawings speak for themselfs. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] learning note / wood through trees
Dear silent newbees For the silent beginners among the group: Why not post the learning notes (reccommended by Patty Dowden) on the list? Other beginners thus might learn a lot about things they don't bother to ask or even didn't thought of. Don't feel ashamed to warn others for your own mistakes. To set an example the 4000-pins Torchon sampler pops up again. I'm trying to stay ahead of my students. It appears I discover many mistakes after pulling the pins when it is much to late to redo. It appears to be difficult to see the lace-wood through the pin-trees. I should really take the time to frequently examine my work, peek between the pins if lines of the pattern are visibly at irregular spots, indicating mistakes. I should also use a magnifier to peek at various angles to detect irregularies. It is just a coincidence I'm working the pattern with a much finer thread than my students. But I think I wouldn't have learnt the lesson above with the original thread, so now I can pass on this hard learnt lesson. So that's another lesson: to level your own skils with your students, reduce the size if possible. For that matter I also value the recommendation of Lucie DuFresneto (and experienced it myself) to just prick a pattern to learn. Thus you might not need to do everything your students are doing and still get a better understanding of what they need to do. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lassen /joining
That's absolutely right. Het lassen may not be the traditional way of joining Bucks, and it may not be *quite* as reliable/strong as it is on laces which have 4 pairs coming into each pin, but it's still a most excellent join, able to withstand mistreatment (washing). The only way it would be too bulky is if a single repeat constituted half or more of your total lace length (ie, half of the edging was double, and half single). Tamara P Duvall I don't understand the last statement. You work a repeat twice but sew at most 2 zig-zagging rows of pins, and cut the remainders of the double worked repeats. On our side ofe the pond, you have the possibiliy to let some professional sew your lace. As you might not know the ideal place two sew you would have to work a full repeat twice for the best possible result. When you do it yourself you might decide to do less on a very lengthy repeat. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] on the list ? / Kingfisher
Did I overlook my own message about a little kingfisher in birds and animals in honiton lace of Saikoh Takano? Or didn't it reach the list/digest at all? Does this message reach the list? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lost website
Hello Tamara I thought to check with him first, but I don't have either the URL (if they have a website) to see, or the e-address (to ask)... The Google search (admittedly, inept, given my 'puter skills. Or lack thereof g) came up with several hits, but always on someone else's webpage, with no direct connection that I could discern... Fragments of old web page may be archived. Try http://web.archive.org/*/http:// on the adressline of your browser and complete this with the address you found on someone else's webpage. This archive however has more holes than a swiss cheese. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] mum-ware
LOL: I saw the expression mum-ware once before and really thought that particular software developer wanted to surprise his mother! Now I understand he meant himself as the mum of his software. I like the idea, but do you really expect people transfering a small donation to a museum, when a lot more money would stay behind with the bankers? Just because the museums happens to be at the other side of the ocean. In general, when someone publishes something privately: consider to involve retailers in European countries respective on the continent. More and more craftshops are disappearing. Please make it possible for at least some to survive and stay as spiders in the distrubution web, we need them. Buying from a local retailer may be a much lower threshold than (not) arranging some collective shipment to reduce the costs. For just one single second the though came to my mind to sugest such collective orders on the Dutch mail list. But sugesting is organising and isn't that the job of retailers? I don't consider it mine. Don't make the mistake that one European supplier is enough. We may have one coin now in a large part of Europe, but that doesn't make us a country. The threshold to order something only 200 km away, may almost be as big as ordering something from the other side of the world. Jo Falkink For European suppliers see http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html NL Dutch Leveranciers DE German Gewerbliche seiten FR French Sites commerciaux - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #275
You do not have the time to go back and correct, he'd say. Your children are at home, crying hungry, he'd say. Every minute you make lace counts, as does every minute you spend undoing it, he'd say. Tamara P Duvall My mother used to say: Wo walks fast doesn't see it, who walks slow doesn't look, is day dreaming she meant with the last. But I'm still able of undoing up to 6 times the same part, though if I can invent a work-around that isn't too vissible, I don't hesitate. For example a forgotten twist in a halfstitch part: cut the wrong threads with a tiny knot, pull back both very carefully, reknot while exchanging the threads and pull in place. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] hands-up
Dear Alice: a PS Don't try too many bobbins on a cookie, I wouldn't know how to stack them. Pick also your smallest cookie as you better get your fingers behind the bobbins, when they are halfway outside the pillow. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbin sources
With less annotations and more chaotic, I compete with the lacefairy on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html Even with this sloppy attitude it is hard to stay up to date. So bobbin lace links not yet on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html are welcome, like the new locations of links on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/lostlinks.html Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] om en om, correction
I described om en om with cloth stitches, should have been half stitches. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] om en om
Adele and other spiders The dictionary translates om en om with - in turns - turn and turn - turn and turn about - every other one It is a contemporary technique/mesh/ground developped by Lidwien Roording. You repeat (a) cloth stitch, (b) cloth stitch, pin, cloth-stitch The next row b below a an a below b. See http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/groene-hart\ select plakboek, then doedag nov 2001 I guess it is not related with De Linnenkast Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] UFO's on pillows
Somebody wrote she neede a new pillow for every workshop, as she never finished the previous ones. I someteimes pull a project from the pillow leaving the pins in the cardboard pattern. A larger threshold to start again, but takes much less space. Either secure the bobbins for example in a crochetet ladder, or (for shorter length) make one big plait (like plaiting hair) and even wind off the bobbins. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thread comparison
Must be something with Russian lace of Sebastiana van den Herik. In a book I own she also mentions Moravia, but no strength. Fil Fleur is no longer produced. Colcotton is Dutch (see my links). Colcotton 34/2 = 29 dD (see http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-EN.html) Should equal Campbell Trademark 80/3 (sheepshead, England) Jo Falkink Subject: [lace] Thread comparison While in Prague I bought some patterns from the Netherland LOKK group. The language isn't as much a problem as the threads required for the pattens. Would could I use as equivalents to the following:- DMC Fil Fleur which is equivalent ( so it seems) to Colcoton 34/2 Madeira Spectra Mez Reflecta mettalic Miriam in hot Arad, Israel - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace link
Thanks for thinking of my link collection. Whenever anyone is in doubt whther I have a link or not, please look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html It has all the links ordered by address. http://www.cipka.sk/ Jo, if you click on Linky (very difficult, Slovak is, no? g) there are links to other lace sites, some of which you might not have; I have not explored them, though noticed that Lenka Suchanek's Silverpin (which you *do* have) is there. Tamara P Duvall - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thread leftovers
I try to store leftovers on bibbins with the the original spool and same with leftovers rewound in bundels on the earlier mentioned embroiders bobbins. But may time I forget and put all on a pile for other decorative purposes. The last few years I'm mainly doing Flanders and white Milanese and use the same thread for both. Sometimes I have to resize the Milanese pattern for that purpose. So I wind a half set of bobbins with as much thread as I the bobbin can comfortably hold. That reduces the loss by almost 50%. It also reduces the boring winding task. For the mother bobbins I use a fast winder, hardly worth the trouble for short pieces, then I use the string method. Like spinning on a wheel versus spindle: the first faster by the hour, the other faster by the week. For Flanders I'm trying to learn neadle weaving. You start and end with plaited fringes, and work a repeat or so double, more in case of strating problems. After the weaving the remainders are cut of: two half repeats + one fringe each. The lost thread is really just a few cm. I heard of someone who processed these remaining pieces into postcards, but don't know the details. Jo Faklink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] subject line
Please use descriptive/informative subject lines not simply: question/help/digest-nr-xx. I can't read everything and know of others who even left the group because it was just too much, I don't like to join them. A good subject lines help to be selective and might keep me within the group. Also change the subject line when the subject (coincidence?) of a discusion changes. Otherwise it's easy to miss interesting discussions that started less interesting. Jo Falkink Who really needs to reduce the jungle backdoors into a garden. Summer here has been quite wet up to now. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Prag Workshop
Hello Tamara I was lucky to find some back up while you were gone, a second question on your mask was solved with the help of Jacquie. Jo wrote you skipped an exercise, but I think you learnt a much more valuable lesson. When I converted to hands up I also became a CT-er. More on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Midlands on flat pillows
Robin P wrote: Foam is too light by itself, it needs a wood base to make the pillow sit still. I don't like it for Midlands bobbins because they lay flat on the flat surface and are hard to grab, but Continentals have a narrow waist that sits above the flat surface and so are easier to grab. I once solved that by padding my gatlap like a quilt. Well... as I'm not a quilter I only stitched the edges. A gatlap is Dutch for a cover sheet whit a hole in the center. The lace under the sheet, the bobbins through the hole above the sheet prevents the threads catching earlier pushed pins. Now I'm working hands up, folding the padded sheet into a half circle gives a nice extension for my sometimes too small travel cookie (32cm 12 1/2). Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] UFO's OIP
Hello Spiders The informal inquieries gives a lot to catch up with after a 3 weeks holiday. Here my late contribution to projects/object/work in progress (PIP/OIP/WIP) and unfinished objects (UFO's) Recently a friend gave me I her late mothers bobbins. She also told me she started knitting again. Then I rememberd 4 unfinished knit pullovers started between 1981-1990... That seems about to equal the price winner but is not lace and I handed them over so they are no longer my projects. In 2000 I asked for 1 meter display on a fair, but a few weeks before I found out they gave me 4! So I decided to pull out all my pillows and mount some finished projects and start some new ones. Among others the mandarin duck of Takano/Luxton for my honiton pillow. To my surprise no rost yet, but the thread doesn't seem to be white any more. I also started a not too complex Flanders edge to work on, not to be finished ever: I save it for other demonstration occasions. Two other Flanders pieces are finished but for the needle weaving. That makes 4 UFO's. Also 3 small Rosaline corners are waiting to be mounted on a handkerchief since about 1997, perhaps I'll use one for the luggage label for the Lacemakers' Census (http://www.laceguild.demon.co.uk). About February I started the Milanese palm tree of Read/Kincaid as it fits more or less on my travel pillow (a cookie of 12 1/2 or 32 cm) an requires not too many bobbins. For years I was dreaming to make a mask to display at my hair dresser (http://www.jmhaarmode.nl images on top) who collects masks. Then I found Tamara's Durga Ma (http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/00-03/00-03-Pages/Image6.html) and fell in love with it. After finishing the leaves of the palm tree I had to move it to get the bottom part inthe center ofthe tiny pillow, I decided that was a good occasion to interrupt and start the mask. My recent holliday (hiking around the Mont Blanc every other day, so plenty of time the other days) I used to make some exercises to try the new braids. But until now I don't understand how Tamara worked the Chrysantheum in the paislys and the onion. Her instructions look simple but I get a much less attractive result. So I'm stuck untill she's back or somebody else could be of help. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] strawberrie
Better late than never... Another reaction on the Dutch list: The pattern appeared in the 3rd year of Kantkwartaal nr. 3, Mai 1998 copyrighted indeeed by Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes Jo Falkink Hallo kletsklosjes, Ik heb even moeten zoeken, maar alsnog gevonden: er staat een kantklospatroon van een aardbei en een aardbeienkleedje in Kantkwartaal jaargang 1, nr. 3. Deze is in mei 1988 verschenen. Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes heeft het copy-right van het patroon en is waarschijnlijk ook de ontwerpster. Beter laat dan nooit zal ik maar zeggen Groeten van een fervent kantklosster, die helaas ook nog een heleboel andere verplichtingen heeft, Wilma Martens-ten Dam. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] kantwartaal
I asked on a Dutch list. Kantkwartaal has been issued by Jolanda de Boer during 13 years until the start of 2000. Most patterns were hers. Hanke had a quick look but couldn't find the strawberrie (aardbei) pattern though she only missed nr 3 of the 3rd year. Jo Falkink Ik heb alle afleveringen van het Kant Kwartaal die ik heb doorgekeken (vluchtig gebladerd). Het kant kwartaal is in 13 jaargangen uitgegeven, met 4 afleveringen per jaar. Begin 2000 is ze (= Jolanda de Boer)er mee gestopt. Ik heb ze niet kunnen vinden (alhoewel ik nog 1 uitgave mis: jaargang 3 nummer 4). Vanaf het 8e jaargang was het makkelijker zoeken, er zit dan een index bij. Maar als ze er zeker van is, dat het van het Kant Kwartaal is, dan is meestal de ontwerpster Jolanda de Boer, (uitgeverij Linja) te Boertange. groetjes, Hanke - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] underground
The message There is no group Arachne7 keeps poppin gup. What am I doing wrong? You may have missed a later message that a dash was added to the name to make the 7 stand out more clearly So you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne-7 Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 7 wives 7 contintents
Hello David I never heard of the rhyme or story before, so please excuse my ignorance. Jo Falkink The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, [...] That's a great idea, except that down here they didn't wear anything David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] sizes / panels - 3D figures
Hello Spiders Perhaps someone could check wether the size requirements concers shipment or exposition. It would be a pitty if Tamara guessed wrong. The man and his wifes could be made 3D, with for example some transparent or couloured coneshape slipped into it as a supporting base. That would leave more room for other ideas on the panels, but maybe they should shrink also. The/some sacks could also be made 3D: a straigth piece folded once, sides sewn, some cord to close, stuff them and slung them over the shoulders of the wifes or layed around their feet. the 0111 ground could be used for the bags with a cat her and there. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ArachneSeven / Arachne7
So why not just call it ArachneSeven or ArachneProject? I used Arachne7 as a short version. I recommend that you keep it off the Yahoo directory Done from the start. Though parts of the group migth be exposed as soon as the result is in exhibition. For example photographs and the calander, to follow the project when it travels around the world for exhibition. For example when my group in Gouda celebrates its 25 aniversary in 2010. y'all decide whether the yahoo route is a good one or not, set something up (if not; Jo's already set up a yahoo one, if it turns out to be *the* choice) and ... If no-one objects and comes with something else... ... tell us when it's open, and how to join it (and let's hope I can manage The group is open exept that no-one yet offered me a introduction message for the home page. I guess it should contain some non-disclosure agreement. I also want some co-moderators for several reasons of which I mention some: 1) I don't wan't to be the boss. 2) Some groups get orphanised when somehow the account of the one and only moderator gets corrupted. 3) I only dial in on the web once or twice per Dutch evening (one hour before GMT), and during holidays (Dutch seem to have a lot) also someone must be available, just in case. 4) It would be good to have some moderators from various corners of the world. 5) I didn't save all the messages so I won't recognise most email adresses whether they are truly Arachne-members or spammers. 6) I might be too 'puter-literate to see the problems that others might have. But I don't expect problems. Though they can do more, the main task of a moderator is during startup. You'll get notification messages for new members, after verification simply hit reply and send to accept, or forward to an address specified in the notification to reject. I'll give the moderator all rights (so they even can throw me out ;-) To join go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne7 sign-in or sign-up and hit the join button. Just read the instructions at the site and the emails you get during joining. Jo Falkink. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] anonymous
Dear 7-spiders I've two volunteers as moderator so we're launched!!! Anonymous messages can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but lets first give everybody participating a chance to join to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne-7 Bedtime is near (hoping this time no other neighbours are celebrating) so I might not react quickly. Let's stream in the ideas and resumees a while longer. We are not yet in a hurry. Perhaps a few proposals would be even better then we could discuss pro's and cons and finally create a poll to vote, also anonymously. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 7 wives 7 contintents
Hello Spiders The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, however, Antarctica? A Japanese Kimono, an Indian from North America (the mens costumes are more impressive), a colourfull South Amercian, from Europe many period or fokloristic costumes could be picked. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] underground
Hello Spiders I prepared a Yahoo group with the proper settings and facilities to go underground. If another method is chosen to go underground, no hurt feelings. No hurry too. As soon as someone feels like taking the lead for the project (not me), she can go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne7 If already using yahoo you can sign *in* and and join the group. If new to yahoo, you should first sign *up*. After following the instructions (you can use the same e-mail address as you use for Arachne) you might need to return to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne7 to click join the group. Then wait for messages by me to accept you. The first two I'll make a moderator to accept the other participants in the project. So if you don't want to become a moderater (duties and possibilities are not complicated), wait until the group has at least 3 members. I see a possible problem with threads: I'm afraid few threads are available worldwide. As for the 12/24 hour system: In the Netherlands we write the 24 hour system with a dot between the hours and the minutes. But we speak in the 12 hour system. To make things more complicated 10.30 pronounces as 1/2 11, dropping the 'before' where the English put 'after'. Once (long before the cell-phones) my father in law woriedly phoned me to ask if I knew were his wife was. It appeared he advised her a late train due to conversion errors. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] aracne project
Hello Spiders To easy organise mailing end exchanging files and pictures between participants, it might be an idea to create a sibling yahoo-group. It opts for moderated mebmership and a non-public archive. It provides photoalbums, files, calendars, polls etc private to the group. The Arachne archive is public so anyone can steal our ideas! So may be we should not wait too long! Or can the public archive be cleared selectively? I'm willing to create the yahoo-group, but only if a few other moderators participate immediately. The most important moderator task would be accept/reject/invite members (check if they are Arachnians?) , perhaps help/hint others with some technical details. Jo Falkink. please respond also privatly as I receive digests - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] seven...
I happen to live in a village called Zevenhuizen: 7-houses, but what to make of that? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] contact film
Hello Spiders I print with a desk-jet as I have it always at hand. I used to use blue matte film. But switched to couloured paper as blank film is much more easily available as window decoration, next to the wall paper. But maybe that is just the case for crowded regions. Select a matte one without structure. I must admit the ink and/or glue does come off to the pricking needle. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ring saga
Hello Jane and Spiders Hi All, Thanks Jo for your website. That looks like an Jo who? Oh me! Whenever will I get used to that name? But signing with Joke on English lists ... excellent way to make rings! I have two questions though - what thread size are you using and how big is the finished ring? I made all my Rosaline and their pearls with Eg. cotton 120/2, the rings become about 4 mm - 1/6. Now I see my ruler has inches divided by 10, 8 and 6, so a question raises: why/when which division? I see I forgot to mention on my site to put the thin needle in a vise or cork for better grip. Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/rosa-parel-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ring stick alternative
Hello Jane, Bev and everyone Thank you for sharing your 'ring' tips Jane [...] Somehow I missed that part. I get an inkling to try a Rosaline motif. Using the ring stick is an improvement for me, on the R.p. method of stitching them on paper. The ring stick I obtained appeared to be too wide for my taste. Look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/rosa-parel-EN.html for another method, never sure wehther I reinvented a wheel. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Rosemarie Shephard
Hello Spiders On a second carefull look I could find the heartflower of Rosemary in Jana Novak's book. It was further down than the flowers. But then again, a heart shape is a very universal symbol, both hearts have different slopes, different numbers of pins and different braids. The method of making the hearts 3D I've seen applied to other shapes and non-lace (e.g. paper) crafts. You can't forbid that method for an original design, as you can't forbid any half-stitch braid. But I still can't find a flower in Jana Novak's book that resembels the five petals more than any other of the flowers. I'd still bet on the Morphic Resonance. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Rosemarie shephard seems OK to me
Hello Spiders I agree we should be carefull with making accusations. It happend to me someone categorised my designs as those of someone else. I suppose she just recognised them both as Rosaline without even knowing that term. I happen to have Kantklossen in vrije vorm of Jana Novak. I suppose it is the Dutch version (1984) of Fry Knypling. I really can't recognize any of the 10 flowers of Jana to even resemble http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/images/5petals_thumb.jpg I'd bet on the Morphic Resonance. Or maybe they just inspired one another having seen just glimpses of each others work. From the year mentioned earlier I can't tell who must have been first. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ads
Hello Spiders As I'm only a member of Lace and not of Lace-chat, I can't object. But for example with TheoBrejaart (no affiliate, just a customer) you can subscribe individually to a newsletter. That seems a better system to me, perhaps allowing 1 mail with just a link per quarter or year, to give newbees a chance. Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html a collection with links to more than 700 bobbin-sites, among others lots of suppliers. May be someone could help me regroup them by country/state just copy the text into a mail and add your comment. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] needle pin
Needle pin: Do try and use a proper one, [...] Is it just a needle in a vice, point out, or a pin with a bead as head? [...] Don't forget, if you knit, you're used to pulling threads through loops using a needle without a hook on the end... With knitting you have two needle-points in one loop, and the loops can borrow some length of their neighbours. Lace isn't that flexible... But I never tried. Don't remember exactly how I did it. Quit Honiton quite some years ago. As a mere coincidence the spool of 170/2 was about empty :-) Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mounting lace on fabric
Clay Blackwell wrote: The most exhaustive work on the subject of (joining and ) mounting lace is Het Lassen en Aannaaien van Kant by Louise Allis-Viddeleer. Theo Brejaart has this book and the English translation listed on his website. It is on the page for Dutch books. http://www.theobrejaart.nl/frame.html No affiliation. Eve It may be exhaustive but in my humble opinion it is not allways very clear. Reminds me someone once mailed me a clearer diagram for Flanders following the route also shown by Mary Niven in her book on flanders but drawn differently. With this diagram I could enhance Louise's drawing using colour to distinguish between the ... (sorry, can't find this word) and returning route. It is on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lassen/LouiseAllisViddeleer.gif Louise's route still left me a problem at the turning point. Reminds me also I still have two UFO's waiting to try this technique for the first time. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mounting lace on fabric (correction)
[...] following the route also shown by Mary Niven [...] Sorry, looking closer once again, it appeard to be three different methods! Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Avoiding New Grey Lace
A friend of mine once showed a pice of lace that seemed bleeched partly: halfway she stopped smoking! Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Dewey Decimal Classification
Helen, Could you tell me a little more about this system, or refer to a site that explains it? I think it might be good to add a phrase or 2 about that on my page http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/bieb-EN.html The Dutch version of that page is more extensive, but I dn't dare to make similar statements for other countries. Jo Falkink A former Pica employee, ever heard of it as a Librarian? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] jugglin bobbins
Hello Spiders Speaking of jugglin bobbins: On a holliday in the Italian Alpes I once looked at ladies making lace. They make some Torcon-like lace but without a pricking and only pins at the edges (and a moving one at the bottom of the V). From time to time they make what looked to me as a TCTC, spread theair arms and realy throw the bobbins for another TC with the same pairs. Unfortunately none shared a language with me, though I speak 3 and a little of a 4th as long as they cut the phrases into single words. Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] hands-up hands-down
Weronika, Tamara and other Spiders, The earlier discussion on the hands-up hands-down subject must have been before I joined Arachne. I switched to what appears for me to something between hands up/down what worked well for me. I show on my site how I use a cookie-pillow and overcame the problem of the bobbins all wanting to hang in the center due to gravity. http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/kant-EN.html I did not know by then of the kloepelkaemme used in eastern Europe for the same purpose. I added some examples between the german links on my site. Again laer I found another solution with wooden beads on cardboard: http://www.korki-4.de/kloeppeln/kloeppeln.html An advantage of the hands down system: the bobbins can dangle outside the pillow. So a cookie pillow need not to be very much bigger than the motiv. Lately I took it with me on a Nile cruise as it fitted in a suite case, and it wasn't even the biggest suitecase I've seen during the trip. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] bobowa
Weronika, So, my contention is that Bobowa may be known, but against its collective will :) Hmm. I can see that. The lacemakers are definitely there, there's even a school as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure they don't use computers... Don't be too sure: http://web.archive.org/*/http://www.bobowa.pl/koronki/* It is a pitty that this archive is like some of our cheese: it has lots of holes. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] passement...
Tamara question as well, but... *In Polish*, we have a word pasmanteria (which seems to have been stolen directly from French) and it covers Be carefull comparing (almost) identical words in different languages. Once I confirmed a Swiss gui not to be serious. He laid down his spoon: Do you mean the French or German serious? I answered to be honest: the Dutch. It appeared that the French interpretation resembles the Dutch: I meant he was a joker from time to time, but in German serious just means trustworthy. Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Unusual lace pillow and stand
I wonder if the posting was meant to go up on April 1st, instead of April 2nd? Lots of magazines put a spoof article in the April issue - are the editors of LOKK Kantbrief likely to have done so too? (Great minds think alike and all that). I don't think so, as the Dutch members recived it already a while ago. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Unusual lace pillow and stand
I wonder if the posting was meant to go up on April 1st, instead of April 2nd? Lots of magazines put a spoof article in the April issue - are the editors of LOKK Kantbrief likely to have done so too? (Great minds think alike and all that). I don't think so, as the Dutch members recived it already a while ago. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] meaning of spangles
Hello lacemakers Someone collecting beads asked me whether the beads in a spangle may have some meaning. I guessed not, except adding weight to the bobbin and being fancy. But as a continental lacemaker I don't spangle and don't know about the history of spangles. Can anybody enlighten me? Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-NL.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honiton with coloured silk
Hello all For those who don't yet know me from the Yahoo groups, I refer to my website. About 20 years ago I only had lace-making books and didn't know other lacemakers, nor lacemaking-suppliers. So I didn't even know how to get white thread thin enough for the patterns form Elsie Luxtons books. So I experimented with unraveling various types of cloth. Some thread apeared not to be twisted at all and thus too weak, others were too elastic, so my bobbins jumped all over my pilow. Taffeta (tafzijde in Dutch) appeared to be the most succesful, but I didn't like the material for this type of lace. To slippery and too eager for the inside curves. How does Piper silk behave or can it be made more sticky somehow? Jo Falkink http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/kant-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]