[lace] old postings

2005-06-12 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello spiders

For those looking for the list what to bring with you and other subjects:
Old postings can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/

Jo Falkink
with a faster online grid generator on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html

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[lace] Browsers -was roseground

2005-05-23 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Tamara wrote:

 That's *5* browsers, all of them more stable than the Internet
 Explorer, for which reason they're recommended by most
 computer-knowledgeable people and quite popular. So I really think that
 between them they're likely to be used by much more than 1-1.5% of
 Internet-connected people.

Don't know how the number 1-5% came into my head. Examining my own counter
82% of the visitors have MS-IE 5.0 or higher. Examining http://www.lokk.nl
it's even 94% That makes 6-18% non MS-IE.

 Or else the writer is someone with an
 overweening ego: take my way, or the highway... Well, I'm happy to
 take the highway; there are more interesting people there to meet  :)

I agree.
But this list is the wrong place to complain, if each arachnean would try to
convince A.P. Limouzin he should convert from XML to HTML before
publishing It would make the main part of his site accessible. I tried
once again today.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] online grid generator

2005-05-23 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Dear spiders who tried http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html in
vain: it should be working now.
Sorry, for MS-IE 5.0+ only. With another browser you have to download
some program anyway so I didn't re-invent those wheels. Wheels that will be
much faster anyway.
By the way, afer the first time you don't need to be online to push the
generate button.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] roseground

2005-05-22 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
A french site has very good pictures. Some pages I had to try a few times
until they worked.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html
select cours from the menu
under etudes des fond press the button lancer le cours
or try directly http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/fonds/

select: fonds de mariage

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Re: Browsers -was roseground

2005-05-22 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 ...
 but in general it's not good practice to make a site inaccesible to a
 lot of potential visitors.

It's a choice of the webmaster whether he/she considers something like 1-5%
as a lot.

 What is it that IE 5.5 for Windows can do
 that 5.2 for Mac can't?
 ...
 Brenda

Andre-Piere Limouzin is using modern techniques like XML and VML. These
techniques are not yet widely supported. I already tried to explain him he
should do the translation from XML to HTML before publishing the pages, but
failed to convince him, perhaps if more complain... He does speak English
but he explained me English emails are likely to be ignored (considered
spam).
As for the utf-8 Character Encoding, that might be caused by being French.

I'm using myself VML on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-NL.html
only supported by MS-IE 5.0 and newer. This technique creates pictures that
are razorsharp on paper and at any scale. There is an alternative for VML
but then visitors have to install something similar to acrobat reader for
PDF files. So I had a choice: disappoint some of my vistors for a small part
of my site, or enforce all to download software, which they usually won't
do: afraid of trouble, too 'puter-illiterate or too lazy.

Jo Falkink


 On 21 May 2005, at 16:24, J.Falkink-Pol wrote:

  http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html
  select cours from the menu
  under etudes des fond press the button lancer le cours

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[lace] Prague visit report

2005-05-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

A while ago I asked for lacy places in Pague, Faye Owers requested a report
as she also plans a trip, so here it is for others as well.

Anne Bednar Garrison reccommended a shop of Iva Prokov on
http://www.palickovani.cz When I tried too look for the street Chalabalova,
it appeared to be in the outskirts of Prague and I gave up supposing it was
a private address. Somehow I failed to notice the website is of the Zcech
lace association. As they also have English pages I'd sugest to ask them for
more information.

Places where I spotted lace:
Clockwise round the Old Town square: second shop past the Nicolas church
(which is direct on the square) you'll find the Vlasta Galeria, between the
yellow arches past the Tyn church (which hides between another building)
you'll find downstarirs a painted silk shop. The souvenir shops at the lower
entrances (one hidden in an arch on Valdstejnske nam 162) of the Palace
Gardens. The church of Our Lady of Victory. An antique shop named AHASVER in
the street street Prokopska. Linnenshops where the Karlova/Husova cross, on
the Celetna (on your left hand) a third one I forgot to note down.

The church, the silk shop and souvenir shops mainly sell typical Czech
picture lace: portraits styled like on
ttp://mujweb.cz/www/palickovani/index.htm castle views, madonnas and the
infant Jesus (http://www.pragjesu.info ).
The more hidden garden entrance also had some evening dresses and more
artistic pieces.

Someone wrote she was sorry to have skipped the Golden Lane because of its
entrance fee. Don't be. It was included in our all in one ticket. The rest
we valued, but the Golden Lane is just a street with cramped tourist shops.
The litle lace I spotted frome the street appeared to be ugly sewn at the
corners when taking a closer look.

Janice Blair supposed the Vlasta Galeria was the shop that closed the door
for OIDFA members. I can imagine. The shop has written elite all over it,
and sells at rather elite than relatively cheap prices. The cheapest set of
earrings where 1800 crowns, about 60 Euros. Everywhere signs to forbid
fotographing. I hardly needed one. Looking just twice for less than 5
minutes and back in my hotel I could draft the designs of at least 5
different models. With an invasion of skilled lacemakers the whole
collection would lay on the street, and a crowded shop doesn't look very
elite, wouldn't it?

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Prague

2005-04-17 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

Within a litle less than 2 weeks I'm visiting Prague with my husband for a
short holiday. What lace shops/exibitions could there be left in the city? I
tried a German list but the only answer I got was the national museum. But I
also vaguely remember stories about shops closing down as soon as the owners
spotted OIDFA visitors. So there must be more.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Travel restrictions

2005-04-16 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Ruth and Dona

As it is off-topic and I'm not on chat, I'm answering privately.
Australia must have good winds, as I heard foot and mouth disease reached
the UK through certain high winds after sand storms in the North African
desert.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] please not only tiny urls

2005-04-06 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

The tiny urls may be convenient to prevent having to copy and paste long
urls back together. But every advantage has its disadvantage. It makes it
hard for me to me to recognize wether the final url is already in the
collection of bobbin lace links
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linknew-EN.html) on my website. I
already have too little time to maintain this collection as I would like.
Please also list the original url along with the tiny URL or check by
yourself on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html whether it is a
new site and notify me.

hmm, checking these pages I see it needs repairs (done while writing this
message), why did nobody complain?

Jo Falkink

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RE: [lace] The spelling of such a name

2005-03-26 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello spiders

Tell your keyboard to behave mid European and accents wait for vowels to sit
on them, coonvenient for French too. Type something else and it becomes a
plain single/double/back quote. Close to the calculator and paint you can
find sepcial symbols, no cheat sheet required any more.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] btbunn1

2005-03-20 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Who knows btbunn1 signing with Brenda? She was so wrong, it made me
suspicious.

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[lace] atract young lacemakers

2005-03-19 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Except conventions there's another point of concern to attract young
lacemakers. Let me tell my own story.
I started lace making at my mid-teens with a few books.  Those
days I never thought of seeking contact with other lace makers, lacemaking
was just one of many things I experimented with. I just happened to have a
lacemaking classmate between the age of 18-22 we exchanged a few patterns
but didn't work together, the mainly male classmates sniggerd already
enough. Wonder what became of her. No internet those days. Just one computer
with about 8 terminals for more than 90 informatics students.

At a working but still single age the lack of contact became troublesome,
for example I couldn't find thread thin enough for Honiton so I started to
unravel all kinds of cloth. Most threads were too week, others made my
bobbins jump all over the pillow. But then I discoverd a booklet with a
contact adress. The woman lived almost at a walking distance! I wanted
courses for the more complicated lace types. Despite the crowded city where
I lived then, no evening lessons were available at a bycicle distance. Only
at daytime but then I had to work for a living.

Years later I bought myself a car, then she located for me a reachable group
gathering at evenings. My later husband called it a kantkloskletsklubje. A
word to break your tongue (which k is followes by an l and which not?).
Kantklos is lace bobbin, kletsen is chit-chatting, klubje is a little group.
Not very much teaching but a lot of inspiration and opportunities to find
the specilized lace suppliers. Just what I needed, as a course might have
required too much time to keep up with the rest off the class.

Today I feel guilty as I myself am teaching (beginners) only at daytime on
my one-day off per week. But I need the evening to recover enough to be able
to sleep and go sound to work the next day.

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[lace] threads

2005-03-14 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Helen

As you already noticed Brenda is our thread expert, but I collected some
more from the web on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-EN.html

Jo Falkink

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[lace] visit to the Netherlands

2005-03-01 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Shirley

It is a pitty you are just a week too early. 16-20 March Breda has a Textile
festival, including a lace workshop with Ulrike Löhr! Consider a trip to
Brugge, might be one or two hours by train.

Brussels is even closer:

Museum voor het Kostuum en de Kant
Violetstraat 12 (new entrance), Brussels (Belgium)
mo-vr 10-12.30 and 13.30-17 (wedn closed) en sa-sun 14-17
http://www.brucity.be/

Verfijnde Kunstnijverheid - lace in the 19e and 20e century
Jubelpark 10, Brussels
tue-vr 9.30-17 uur sa-sun 10-17 uur
http://www.kmkg-mrah.be/

Jo Falkink

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[lace] split cloth stitch quadrants

2005-02-23 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello spiders

The current pattern of the month is much clearer.
http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/leanne.htm
I looks like a simple runner and pins inside.
But previously I guessed the top and bottom were too airy, so they evolved
like drawn at the bottom of
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/Spleet-als-spin.gif
The crossed spider principle intrigues me, but as I'm a visual type I don't
understand, I gave it a try in the same drawing.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] split cloth stitch quadrants

2005-02-20 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders


http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/bestbookmarks.htm
and several other Torchon patterns on the same site show split cloth stitch
quadrants.
Te pictures are vague. I tried to immitate them as shown on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/spleten.jpg
It looks like happy a mutant. Can somebody tell or show me how to do these?
Another attempt made te top and bottom to disjunct. So I'm puzzled.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Knipling user group

2005-02-18 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

I created an international group for (would be) users of the Knipling
software where they can help one another. You can read more and join at
http://groups.msn.com/ksug
For those wo didn't get response from http://www.knipling.de please try
http://www.nytiknipling.dk/ The site is Danish but at the bottom you'll find
an e-mail address, they do speak English.

Jo Faklink

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[lace] online grid generator

2005-02-16 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

For those with Micorsofts Internet Explorer I published an on-line grid
generator on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html
As I'm not too familiair with inches, I would like to know what would be
usual distances between pins, and how do you spell these values?
Brenda: the speed (or rather the lack of it) must remind you of old days. So
I'm afraid this method is too slow for your fantasy grids.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] liggende poes

2005-02-16 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
You might want to cut pieces of say 15 cm / 6 inch per passive pair, and
knot that to some cheap thread with the same twist. For the runner you'll
need more, take a colour that is not used as a runner or for the fillings.
The knots may work awfull, but give you a probe of about 5 cm / 2 inches
with a minimum of thread used.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] wire lace with hammer and nails

2005-02-12 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

http://www.kantopleiding-nko.nl/Aktiviteiten/Aktiviteiten.html
by Joep Verhoeven, student of the  Design Academy in Eindhoven with the help
of the NKO. We have a TV personality called Joep van 't Hek. So this Fence
of Youp is a word play.

Speaking of promoting lace without remebering the youg of their
great-grand-ma's...
What about armoured glass?

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Amsterdam Rijksmuseum

2005-02-06 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Lynn Carpenter wrote
 When we visited in the fall of 1998, we saw lots of lace.

I remember having visited the Rijksmuseum some years ago for a special
*temporal* exhibition. I saw about wat Lynn described. The exhibition was on
the occasion of the 75's aniversay of the Kantsalet and the lace was their
posesion, not the museum's. That explains the 75 I saw recently on this list
too. I'm not sure wether that was 1998. I checked the items of the Kantbrief
of that year but didn't find any reference.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] 117 etc.

2005-02-03 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

Usually our houses are bigger, but one of the authors of Kant uit
Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer has a living room of only 15x10 foot and
sometimes teached 5 at a time. As she sais: Where there's a will, there's a
way.

I myself don't do much advertising. I used to have name-cards in the local
needlework shop, but now only have the internet and still I had to say no a
few times this season. Sadly the needlework shop isn't wat it used to be
some 5 or 10 years ago. Their reaction: we used to be able to order for a
single piece, that became 2, 5, 10. It lays too long and the colours fade
before we can sell. So the wholesalers also play a sad role in the
supplying chain. Quantity over quality.

Jo Falkink

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Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoers / difficult name

2005-01-13 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 We could  say Den Moer instead of 's Gravenmoers maybe?

Those things only happen for big cities. Like we call Paris Parijs en Köln
Keulen, like you call Den Haag The Hague but don't translate lesser known
villages. Nobody would understand you with Den Moer. We also have a
neighbouring village Moerkappelle Chappel in the moor/shwamp. So den Moer
wouldn't distinguish.

 I would like that - I trip over the apostrophe, first off vbg

You would trip also over the pronounciation of the sch, only possible by
Dutch, Swiss and Arabs.

 'schuine' I think would translate to 'diagonal'
 let's call it Schuine Half-Stitch (Torchon) :p

I would stick to Diagonal Half Stitch Torchon, recognisable and pronouncable
for everyone.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] aficot?

2004-12-28 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Jean Barrett 

What is a horn aficot? I didn't find it in the dictionary.

Jo Faklink

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[lace] bobowa

2004-12-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Tamara and Weronika

On a German list I found the link
http://www.kloeppelstube.com/frset-tipps.html

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Re: measuring transparency

2004-12-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Mary 

Might this page have what you meant ?
http://www.lacemakerusa.com/thread/supplies.htm

Jo Falkink

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Re: [lace] pair or two singles

2004-12-01 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
I sometimes use an intermediate form of throwing in pairs:
Half of the bobbins I wind as full as possible. For the other half I try to
assess the length needed (has been explained before, try to search the
archive http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/), and wind just that
on the other bobbin, or even knot very short ends to pre-wound bobbins
(don't mix Z and S twist, they'll undo each others twist). That reduces
constant winding / dsicarding / running by half.
Sometimes I cheat with an extra twist (not within half stitches) to exchange
long and short threads. This however takes more care for tensioning.

Ulricke Loehr's Handbuch mit 400 Tricks und Kniffen shows how to recover
from half stitch mistakes. German but the drawings speak for themselfs.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] learning note / wood through trees

2004-11-20 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Dear silent newbees

For the silent beginners among the group: Why not post the learning notes
(reccommended by Patty Dowden) on the list? Other beginners thus might learn
a lot about things they don't bother to ask or even didn't thought of. Don't
feel ashamed to warn others for your own mistakes.

To set an example the 4000-pins Torchon sampler pops up again. I'm trying to
stay ahead of my students. It appears I discover many mistakes after pulling
the pins when it is much to late to redo. It appears to be difficult to see
the lace-wood through the pin-trees.
I should really take the time to frequently examine my work, peek between
the pins if lines of the pattern are visibly at irregular spots, indicating
mistakes. I should also use a magnifier to peek at various angles to detect
irregularies.

It is just a coincidence I'm working the pattern with a much finer thread
than my students. But I think I wouldn't have learnt the lesson above with
the original thread, so now I can pass on this hard learnt lesson.
So that's another lesson: to level your own skils with your students, reduce
the size if possible. For that matter I also value the  recommendation of
Lucie DuFresneto (and experienced it myself) to just prick a pattern to
learn. Thus you might not need to do everything your students are doing and
still get a better understanding of what they need to do.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] lassen /joining

2004-10-24 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 That's absolutely right. Het lassen may not be the traditional way of
 joining Bucks, and it may not be *quite* as reliable/strong as it is on
 laces which have 4 pairs coming into each pin, but it's still a most
 excellent join, able to withstand mistreatment (washing). The only way
 it would be too bulky is if a single repeat constituted half or more
 of your total lace length (ie, half of the edging was double, and half
 single).

 Tamara P Duvall

I don't understand the last statement. You work a repeat twice but sew at
most 2 zig-zagging rows of pins, and cut the remainders of the double worked
repeats. On our side ofe the pond, you have the possibiliy to let some
professional sew your lace. As you might not know the ideal place two sew
you would have to work a full repeat twice for the best possible result.
When you do it yourself you might decide to do less on a very lengthy
repeat.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] on the list ? / Kingfisher

2004-10-16 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Did I overlook my own message about a little kingfisher in birds and
animals in honiton lace of Saikoh Takano? Or didn't it reach the
list/digest at all? Does this message reach the list?

Jo Falkink

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[lace] lost website

2004-09-14 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Tamara

 I thought to check with him first, but I don't have either the URL (if
 they have a website)  to see, or the e-address (to ask)... The Google
 search (admittedly, inept, given my 'puter skills. Or lack thereof g)
 came up with several hits, but always on someone else's webpage, with
 no direct connection that I could discern...

Fragments of old web page may be archived. Try
http://web.archive.org/*/http://
on the adressline of your browser and complete this with the address you
found on someone else's webpage. This archive however has more holes than
a
swiss cheese.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] mum-ware

2004-08-31 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
LOL: I saw the expression mum-ware once before and really thought that
particular software developer wanted to surprise his mother! Now I
understand he meant himself as the mum of his software.

I like the idea, but do you really expect people transfering a small
donation to a museum, when a lot more money would stay behind with the
bankers? Just because the museums happens to be at the other side of the
ocean.

In general, when someone publishes something privately: consider to involve
retailers in European countries respective on the continent. More and more
craftshops are disappearing. Please make it possible for at least some to
survive and stay as spiders in the distrubution web, we need them. Buying
from a local retailer may be a much lower threshold than (not) arranging
some collective shipment to reduce the costs.
For just one single second the though came to my mind to sugest such
collective orders on the Dutch mail list. But sugesting is organising and
isn't that the job of retailers? I don't consider it mine.
Don't make the mistake that one European supplier is enough. We may have one
coin now in a large part of Europe, but that doesn't make us a country. The
threshold to order something only 200 km away, may almost be as big as
ordering something from the other side of the world.

Jo Falkink
For European suppliers see http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html
NL Dutch  Leveranciers
DE German  Gewerbliche seiten
FR French  Sites commerciaux

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #275

2004-08-23 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 You do
 not have the time to go back and correct, he'd say. Your children are
 at home, crying hungry, he'd say. Every minute you make lace counts,
 as does every minute you spend undoing it, he'd say.

 Tamara P Duvall

My mother used to say: Wo walks fast doesn't see it, who walks slow doesn't
look, is day dreaming she meant with the last. But I'm still able of
undoing up to 6 times the same part, though if I can invent a work-around
that isn't too vissible, I don't hesitate.
For example a forgotten twist in a halfstitch part: cut the wrong threads
with a tiny knot, pull back both very carefully, reknot while exchanging the
threads and pull in place.

Jo Falkink

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Re: [lace] hands-up

2004-08-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Dear Alice: a PS

Don't try too many bobbins on a cookie, I wouldn't know how to stack them.
Pick also your smallest cookie as you better get your fingers behind the
bobbins, when they are halfway outside the pillow.

Jo Falkink

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Re: [lace] bobbin sources

2004-08-07 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
With less annotations and more chaotic, I compete with the lacefairy on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html
Even with this sloppy attitude it is hard to stay up to date. So bobbin lace
links not yet on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html
are welcome, like the new locations of links on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/lostlinks.html

Jo Falkink

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[lace] om en om, correction

2004-08-06 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
I described om en om with cloth stitches, should have been half stitches.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] om en om

2004-08-05 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Adele and other spiders

The dictionary translates om en om with
- in turns
- turn and turn
- turn and turn about
- every other one
It is a contemporary technique/mesh/ground developped by Lidwien Roording.
You repeat (a) cloth stitch, (b) cloth stitch, pin, cloth-stitch
The next row b below a an a below b.

See http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/groene-hart\
select plakboek, then doedag nov 2001

I guess it is not related with De Linnenkast

Jo Falkink

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[lace] UFO's on pillows

2004-08-01 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Somebody wrote she neede a new pillow for every workshop, as she never
finished the previous ones. I someteimes pull a project from the pillow
leaving the pins in the cardboard pattern. A larger threshold to start
again, but takes much less space. Either secure the bobbins for example in a
crochetet ladder, or (for shorter length) make one big plait (like plaiting
hair) and even wind off the bobbins.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Thread comparison

2004-08-01 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Must be something with Russian lace of Sebastiana van den Herik. In a book I
own she also mentions Moravia, but no strength.
Fil Fleur is no longer produced. Colcotton is Dutch (see my links).
Colcotton 34/2 = 29 dD (see
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-EN.html)
Should equal Campbell Trademark 80/3 (sheepshead, England)

Jo Falkink

 Subject: [lace] Thread comparison

 While in Prague I bought some patterns from the Netherland LOKK group. The
 language isn't as much a problem as the threads required for the pattens.
 Would could I use as equivalents to the following:-

 DMC Fil Fleur which is equivalent ( so it seems) to Colcoton 34/2
 Madeira Spectra
 Mez Reflecta mettalic

 Miriam
 in hot Arad, Israel

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Re: [lace] lace link

2004-08-01 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Thanks for thinking of my link collection. Whenever anyone is in doubt
whther I have a link or not, please look at
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html
It has all the links ordered by address.

 http://www.cipka.sk/

 Jo, if you click on Linky (very difficult, Slovak is, no? g) there
 are links to other lace sites, some of which you might not have; I have
 not explored them, though noticed that Lenka Suchanek's Silverpin
 (which you *do* have) is there.

 Tamara P Duvall

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[lace] thread leftovers

2004-07-30 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
I try to store leftovers on bibbins with the the original spool and same
with leftovers rewound in bundels on the earlier mentioned embroiders
bobbins. But may time I forget and put all on a pile for other decorative
purposes.

The last few years I'm mainly doing Flanders and white Milanese and use the
same thread for both. Sometimes I have to resize the Milanese pattern for
that purpose. So I wind a half set of bobbins with as much thread as I the
bobbin can comfortably hold. That reduces the loss by almost 50%.
It also reduces the boring winding task. For the mother bobbins I use a
fast winder, hardly worth the trouble for short pieces, then I use the
string method. Like spinning on a wheel versus spindle: the first faster by
the hour, the other faster by the week.
For Flanders I'm trying to learn neadle weaving. You start and end with
plaited fringes, and work a repeat or so double, more in case of strating
problems. After the weaving the remainders are cut of: two half repeats +
one fringe each. The lost thread is really just a few cm. I heard of someone
who processed these remaining pieces into postcards, but don't know the
details.

Jo Faklink

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[lace] subject line

2004-07-30 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Please use descriptive/informative subject lines not simply:
question/help/digest-nr-xx. I can't read everything and know of others who
even left the group because it was just too much, I don't like to join them.
A good subject lines help to be selective and might keep me within the
group.
Also change the subject line when the subject (coincidence?) of a discusion
changes. Otherwise it's easy to miss interesting discussions that started
less interesting.

Jo Falkink
Who really needs to reduce the jungle backdoors into a garden. Summer here
has been quite wet up to now.

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[lace] Prag Workshop

2004-07-27 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Tamara

I was lucky to find some back up while you were gone, a second question on
your mask was solved with the help of Jacquie.

Jo wrote you skipped an exercise, but I think you learnt a much more
valuable lesson. When I converted to hands up I also became a CT-er.
More on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Midlands on flat pillows

2004-07-20 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Robin P wrote:  Foam is too
light by itself, it needs a wood base to make the pillow sit still.  I don't
like it for Midlands bobbins because they lay flat on the flat surface and
are hard to grab, but Continentals have a narrow waist that sits above the
flat surface and so are easier to grab. 

I once solved that by padding my gatlap like a quilt. Well... as I'm not a
quilter I only stitched the edges. A gatlap is Dutch for a cover sheet
whit a hole in the center. The lace under the sheet, the bobbins through the
hole above the sheet prevents the threads catching earlier pushed pins. Now
I'm working hands up, folding the padded sheet into a half circle gives a
nice extension for my sometimes too small travel cookie (32cm 12 1/2).

Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html

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[lace] UFO's OIP

2004-07-18 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

The informal inquieries gives a lot to catch up with after a 3 weeks
holiday. Here my late contribution to projects/object/work in progress
(PIP/OIP/WIP) and unfinished objects (UFO's)

Recently a friend gave me I her late mothers bobbins. She also told me she
started knitting again. Then I rememberd 4 unfinished knit pullovers started
between 1981-1990... That seems about to equal the price winner but is not
lace and I handed them over so they are no longer my projects.

In 2000 I asked for 1 meter display on a fair, but a few weeks before I
found out they gave me 4! So I decided to pull out all my pillows and mount
some finished projects and start some new ones. Among others the mandarin
duck of Takano/Luxton for my honiton pillow. To my surprise no rost yet, but
the thread doesn't seem to be white any more. I also started a not too
complex Flanders edge to work on, not to be finished ever: I save it for
other demonstration occasions.

Two other Flanders pieces are finished but for the needle weaving. That
makes 4 UFO's. Also 3 small Rosaline corners are waiting to be mounted on a
handkerchief since about 1997, perhaps I'll use one for the luggage label
for the Lacemakers' Census (http://www.laceguild.demon.co.uk).
About February I started the Milanese palm tree of Read/Kincaid as it fits
more or less on my travel pillow (a cookie of 12 1/2 or 32 cm) an requires
not too many bobbins.

For years I was dreaming to make a mask to display at my hair dresser
(http://www.jmhaarmode.nl images on top) who collects masks. Then I found
Tamara's Durga Ma
(http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/00-03/00-03-Pages/Image6.html) and fell in
love with it. After finishing the leaves of the palm tree I had to move it
to get the bottom part inthe center ofthe tiny pillow, I decided that was a
good occasion to interrupt and start the mask. My recent holliday (hiking
around the Mont Blanc every other day, so plenty of time the other days) I
used to make some exercises to try the new braids. But until now I don't
understand how Tamara worked the Chrysantheum in the paislys and the onion.
Her instructions look simple but I get a much less attractive result. So I'm
stuck untill she's back or somebody else could be of help.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] strawberrie

2004-06-18 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Better late than never... Another reaction on the Dutch list:

The pattern appeared in the 3rd year of Kantkwartaal nr. 3, Mai 1998
copyrighted indeeed by Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes

Jo Falkink

 Hallo kletsklosjes,

 Ik heb even moeten zoeken, maar alsnog gevonden: er staat een
 kantklospatroon van een aardbei en een aardbeienkleedje in Kantkwartaal
 jaargang 1, nr. 3. Deze is in mei 1988 verschenen. Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes
 heeft het copy-right van het patroon en is waarschijnlijk ook de
 ontwerpster.
 Beter laat dan nooit zal ik maar zeggen

 Groeten van een fervent kantklosster, die helaas ook nog een heleboel
andere
 verplichtingen heeft,
 Wilma Martens-ten Dam.

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[lace] kantwartaal

2004-06-09 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
I asked on a Dutch list.
Kantkwartaal has been issued by Jolanda de Boer during 13 years until the
start of 2000. Most patterns were hers. Hanke had a quick look but couldn't
find the strawberrie (aardbei) pattern though she only missed nr 3 of the
3rd year.

Jo Falkink

 Ik heb alle afleveringen van het Kant Kwartaal die ik heb doorgekeken
 (vluchtig gebladerd). Het kant kwartaal is in 13 jaargangen uitgegeven,
met
 4 afleveringen per jaar. Begin 2000 is ze (= Jolanda de Boer)er mee
gestopt.
   Ik heb ze niet kunnen vinden (alhoewel ik nog 1 uitgave mis: jaargang 3
 nummer 4).
 Vanaf het 8e jaargang was het makkelijker zoeken, er zit dan een index
bij.

 Maar als ze er zeker van is, dat het van het Kant Kwartaal is, dan is
 meestal de ontwerpster Jolanda de Boer, (uitgeverij Linja) te Boertange.

 groetjes,
 Hanke

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Re: [lace] underground

2004-06-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 The message There is no group Arachne7 keeps poppin gup.
 What am I doing wrong?

You may have missed a later message that a dash was added to the name to
make the 7 stand out more clearly
So you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne-7

Jo Falkink

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Re: [lace] 7 wives 7 contintents

2004-06-07 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello David

I never heard of the rhyme or story before, so please excuse my ignorance.

Jo Falkink

 The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, 
 [...]
 That's a great idea, except that down here they didn't wear anything 
 David in Ballarat

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[lace] sizes / panels - 3D figures

2004-06-06 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

Perhaps someone could check wether the size requirements concers shipment or
exposition. It would be a pitty if Tamara guessed wrong.

The man and his wifes could be made 3D, with for example some transparent or
couloured coneshape slipped into it as a supporting base. That would leave
more room for other ideas on the panels, but maybe they should shrink also.
The/some sacks could also be made 3D: a straigth piece folded once, sides
sewn, some cord to close, stuff them and slung them over the shoulders of
the wifes or layed around their feet. the 0111 ground could be used for the
bags with a cat her and there.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] ArachneSeven / Arachne7

2004-06-06 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 So why not just call it ArachneSeven or ArachneProject?

I used Arachne7 as a short version.

 I recommend that you keep it off the Yahoo directory

Done from the start. Though parts of the group migth be exposed as soon as
the result is in exhibition. For example photographs and the calander, to
follow the project when it travels around the world for exhibition. For
example when my group in Gouda celebrates its 25 aniversary in 2010.

 y'all decide whether the
 yahoo route is a good one or not, set something up (if not;  Jo's
 already set up a yahoo one, if it turns out to be *the* choice) and ...

If no-one objects and comes with something else...

 ... tell us when it's open, and how to join it (and let's hope I can
manage

The group is open exept that no-one yet offered me a introduction message
for the home page. I guess it should contain some non-disclosure agreement.
I also want some co-moderators for several reasons of which I mention some:
1) I don't wan't to be the boss. 2) Some groups get orphanised when somehow
the account of the one and only moderator gets corrupted. 3) I only dial in
on the web once or twice per Dutch evening (one hour before GMT), and during
holidays (Dutch seem to have a lot) also someone must be available, just in
case. 4) It would be good to have some moderators from various corners of
the world. 5) I didn't save all the messages so I won't recognise most email
adresses whether they are truly Arachne-members or spammers. 6) I might be
too 'puter-literate to see the problems that others might have. But I don't
expect problems.

Though they can do more, the main task of a moderator is during startup.
You'll get notification messages for new members, after verification simply
hit reply and send to accept, or forward to an address specified in the
notification to reject. I'll give the moderator all rights (so they even can
throw me out ;-)

To join go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne7 sign-in or sign-up and
hit the join button. Just read the instructions at the site and the emails
you get during joining.

Jo Falkink.

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[lace] anonymous

2004-06-06 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Dear 7-spiders

I've two volunteers as moderator so we're launched!!!

Anonymous messages can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but lets first give everybody participating a chance to join
to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne-7
Bedtime is near (hoping this time no other neighbours are celebrating) so I
might not react quickly.

Let's stream in the ideas and resumees a while longer. We are not yet in a
hurry. Perhaps a few proposals would be even better then we could discuss
pro's and cons and finally create a poll to vote, also anonymously.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] 7 wives 7 contintents

2004-06-04 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, however, Antarctica?
A Japanese Kimono, an Indian from North America (the mens costumes are more
impressive), a colourfull South Amercian, from Europe many period or
fokloristic costumes could be picked.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] underground

2004-06-03 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

I prepared a Yahoo group with the proper settings and facilities to go
underground. If another method is chosen to go underground, no hurt
feelings. No hurry too.

As soon as someone feels like taking the lead for the project (not me), she
can go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne7
If already using yahoo you can sign *in* and and join the group. If new to
yahoo, you should first sign *up*. After following the instructions (you can
use the same e-mail address as you use for Arachne) you might need to return
to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne7 to click join the group. Then
wait for messages by me to accept you. The first two I'll make a moderator
to accept the other participants in the project. So if you don't want to
become a moderater (duties and possibilities are not complicated), wait
until the group has at least 3 members.

I see a possible problem with threads: I'm afraid few threads are available
worldwide.

As for the 12/24 hour system:
In the Netherlands we write the 24 hour system with a dot between the hours
and the minutes. But we speak in the 12 hour system. To make things more
complicated 10.30 pronounces as 1/2 11, dropping the 'before' where the
English put 'after'. Once (long before the cell-phones) my father in law
woriedly phoned me to ask if I knew were his wife was. It appeared he
advised her a late train due to conversion errors.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] aracne project

2004-06-02 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

To easy organise mailing end exchanging files and pictures between
participants, it might be an idea to create a sibling yahoo-group. It opts
for moderated mebmership and a non-public archive. It provides photoalbums,
files, calendars, polls etc private to the group.
The Arachne archive is public so anyone can steal our ideas! So may be we
should not wait too long! Or can the public archive be cleared selectively?

I'm willing to create the yahoo-group, but only if a few other moderators
participate immediately. The most important moderator task would be
accept/reject/invite members (check if they are Arachnians?) , perhaps
help/hint others with some technical details.

Jo Falkink.
please respond also privatly as I receive digests

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[lace] seven...

2004-06-01 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
I happen to live in a village called Zevenhuizen: 7-houses, but what to make
of that?

Jo Falkink

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[lace] contact film

2004-05-31 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

I print with a desk-jet as I have it always at hand. I used to use blue
matte film. But switched to couloured paper as blank film is much more
easily available as window decoration, next to the wall paper. But maybe
that is just the case for crowded regions. Select a matte one without
structure. I must admit the ink and/or glue does come off to the pricking
needle.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Ring saga

2004-05-23 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Jane and Spiders

 Hi All,  Thanks Jo for your website.  That looks like an

Jo who? Oh me! Whenever will I get used to that name? But signing with Joke
on English lists ...

 excellent way to make rings!  I have two questions though -
 what thread size are you using and how big is the
 finished ring?

I made all my Rosaline and their pearls with Eg. cotton 120/2, the rings
become about 4 mm - 1/6. Now I see my ruler has inches divided by 10, 8 and
6, so a question raises: why/when which division?
I see I forgot to mention on my site to put the thin needle in a vise or
cork for better grip.


Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/rosa-parel-EN.html

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[lace] ring stick alternative

2004-05-21 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Jane, Bev and everyone

 Thank you for sharing your 'ring' tips Jane [...]

Somehow I missed that part.

 I get an inkling to try a Rosaline motif. Using the ring stick is an
 improvement for me, on the R.p. method of stitching them on paper.

The ring stick I obtained appeared to be too wide for my taste. Look at
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/rosa-parel-EN.html for another method,
never sure wehther I reinvented a wheel.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Rosemarie Shephard

2004-05-20 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

On a second carefull look I could find the heartflower of Rosemary in Jana
Novak's book. It was further down than the flowers. But then again, a heart
shape is a very universal symbol, both hearts have different slopes,
different numbers of pins and different braids. The method of making the
hearts 3D I've seen applied to other shapes and non-lace (e.g. paper)
crafts. You can't forbid that method for an original design, as you can't
forbid any half-stitch braid.
But I still can't find a flower in Jana Novak's book that resembels the
five petals more than any other of the flowers.

I'd still bet on the Morphic Resonance.

 Jo Falkink

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[lace] Rosemarie shephard seems OK to me

2004-05-19 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

I agree we should be carefull with making accusations. It happend to me
someone categorised my designs as those of someone else. I suppose she just
recognised them both as Rosaline without even knowing that term.

I happen to have Kantklossen in vrije vorm of Jana Novak. I suppose it is
the Dutch version (1984) of Fry Knypling. I really can't recognize any of
the 10 flowers of Jana to even resemble
http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/images/5petals_thumb.jpg
I'd bet on the Morphic Resonance. Or maybe they just inspired one another
having seen just glimpses of each others work. From the year mentioned
earlier I can't tell who must have been first.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] ads

2004-05-17 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

As I'm only a member of Lace and not of Lace-chat, I can't object. But for
example with TheoBrejaart (no affiliate, just a customer) you can subscribe
individually to a newsletter. That seems a better system to me, perhaps
allowing 1 mail with just a link per quarter or year, to give newbees a
chance.

Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html
a collection with links to more than 700 bobbin-sites, among others lots of
suppliers. May be someone could help me regroup them by country/state just
copy the text into a mail and add your comment.

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[lace] needle pin

2004-05-10 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 Needle pin: Do try and use a proper one, [...]

Is it just a needle in a vice, point out, or a pin with a bead as head?

 [...]  Don't
 forget, if you knit, you're used to pulling threads
 through loops using a needle without a hook on the
 end...

With knitting you have two needle-points in one loop, and the loops can
borrow some length of their neighbours. Lace isn't that flexible...
But I never tried. Don't remember exactly how I did it. Quit Honiton quite
some years ago. As a mere coincidence the spool of 170/2 was about empty :-)

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Mounting lace on fabric

2004-05-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 Clay Blackwell wrote:
  The most exhaustive work on the subject of (joining and )
  mounting lace is Het Lassen en Aannaaien van Kant by
  Louise Allis-Viddeleer.
 

 Theo Brejaart has this book and the English translation listed on
 his website. It is on the page for Dutch books.

 http://www.theobrejaart.nl/frame.html

 No affiliation.

 Eve

It may be exhaustive but in my humble opinion it is not allways very clear.
Reminds me someone once mailed me a clearer diagram for Flanders following
the route also shown by Mary Niven in her book on flanders but drawn
differently. With this diagram I could enhance Louise's drawing using colour
to distinguish between the ... (sorry, can't find this word) and returning
route. It is on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lassen/LouiseAllisViddeleer.gif
Louise's route still left me a problem at the turning point.
Reminds me also I still have two UFO's waiting to try this technique for the
first time.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Mounting lace on fabric (correction)

2004-05-08 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 [...] following the route also shown by Mary Niven [...]
Sorry, looking closer once again, it appeard to be three different methods!

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Avoiding New Grey Lace

2004-04-22 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
A friend of mine once showed a pice of lace that seemed bleeched partly:
halfway she stopped smoking!

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Dewey Decimal Classification

2004-04-22 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Helen,

Could you tell me a little more about this system, or refer to a site that
explains it? I think it might be good to add a phrase or 2 about that on my
page
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/bieb-EN.html
The Dutch version of that page is more extensive, but I dn't dare to make
similar statements for other countries.

Jo Falkink
A former Pica employee, ever heard of it as a Librarian?

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[lace] jugglin bobbins

2004-04-19 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello Spiders

Speaking of jugglin bobbins: On a holliday in the Italian Alpes I once
looked at ladies making lace. They make some Torcon-like lace but without a
pricking and only pins at the edges (and a moving one at the bottom of the
V). From time to time they make what looked to me as a TCTC, spread theair
arms and realy throw the bobbins for another TC with the same pairs.
Unfortunately none shared a language with me, though I speak 3 and a little
of a 4th as long as they cut the phrases into single words.

Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html

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[lace] hands-up hands-down

2004-04-18 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Weronika, Tamara and other Spiders,

The earlier discussion on the hands-up hands-down subject must have been
before I joined Arachne. I switched to what appears for me to something
between hands up/down what worked well for me. I show on my site how I use a
cookie-pillow and overcame the problem of the bobbins all wanting to hang in
the center due to gravity.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/kant-EN.html
I did not know by then of the kloepelkaemme used in eastern Europe for the
same purpose. I added some examples between the german links on my site.
Again laer I found another solution with wooden beads on cardboard:
http://www.korki-4.de/kloeppeln/kloeppeln.html

An advantage of the hands down system: the bobbins can dangle outside the
pillow. So a cookie pillow need not to be very much bigger than the motiv.
Lately I took it with me on a Nile cruise as it fitted in a suite case, and
it wasn't even the biggest suitecase I've seen during the trip.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] bobowa

2004-04-18 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Weronika,

  So, my contention is that Bobowa may be known, but against its
  collective will :)

 Hmm.  I can see that.  The lacemakers are definitely there, there's even
 a school as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure they don't use
 computers...

Don't be too sure:
http://web.archive.org/*/http://www.bobowa.pl/koronki/*
It is a pitty that this archive is like some of our cheese: it has lots of
holes.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] passement...

2004-04-12 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Tamara

 question as well, but... *In Polish*, we have a word pasmanteria
 (which seems to have been stolen directly from French) and it covers

Be carefull comparing (almost) identical words in different languages.
Once I confirmed a Swiss gui not to be serious. He laid down his spoon:
Do you mean the French or German serious? I answered to be honest: the
Dutch. It appeared that the French interpretation resembles the Dutch: I
meant he was a joker from time to time, but in German serious just means
trustworthy.


Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html

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[lace] Unusual lace pillow and stand

2004-04-04 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 I wonder if the posting was meant to go up on April 1st, instead of
 April 2nd? Lots of magazines put a spoof article in the April issue -
 are the editors of LOKK Kantbrief likely to have done so too? (Great
 minds think alike and all that).

I don't think so, as the Dutch members recived it already a while ago.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] Unusual lace pillow and stand

2004-04-04 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
 I wonder if the posting was meant to go up on April 1st, instead of
 April 2nd? Lots of magazines put a spoof article in the April issue -
 are the editors of LOKK Kantbrief likely to have done so too? (Great
 minds think alike and all that).

I don't think so, as the Dutch members recived it already a while ago.

Jo Falkink

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[lace] meaning of spangles

2004-03-29 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello lacemakers

Someone collecting beads asked me whether the beads in a spangle may have
some meaning. I guessed not, except adding weight to the bobbin and being
fancy. But as a continental lacemaker I don't spangle and don't know about
the history of spangles.
Can anybody enlighten me?

Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-NL.html

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[lace] Honiton with coloured silk

2004-03-27 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello all

For those who don't yet know me from the Yahoo groups, I refer to my
website.

About 20 years ago I only had lace-making books and didn't know other
lacemakers, nor lacemaking-suppliers. So I didn't even know how to get white
thread thin enough for the patterns form Elsie Luxtons books.
So I experimented with unraveling various types of cloth. Some thread
apeared not to be twisted at all and thus too weak, others were too elastic,
so my bobbins jumped all over my pilow. Taffeta (tafzijde in Dutch) appeared
to be the most succesful, but I didn't like the material for this type of
lace. To slippery and too eager for the inside curves. How does Piper silk
behave or can it be made more sticky somehow?

Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/kant-EN.html

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