[lace-chat] Re: broiler

[Thurlow Weed]

We have a 1923 Glenwood Utility stove (gas and wood-burning).  The oven 
compartment doubles as the broiler.  The oven heats from a burner 
underneath the oven bottom, whereas the burner for the broiler is in the 
oven compartment on the ceiling.  It's an incredibly intense heat, and 
any recipe instructions calling for the food item to be placed 2-3 
inches below the broiler [burner] must be ignored.  Said items must be 
placed minimum 8 inches below, or even on the bottom oven rack.


Ruined a perfectly good filet mignon discovering this!  The outside was 
scorched beyond recognition, and the inside was stone cold.  The second 
attempt placed the meat near the bottom of the oven compartment, and it 
turned out perfectly.   Once the broiler taught me how it wanted to be 
used, I've mastered it.  Depending on what I'm wanting to cook, it's 
faster than the microwave.


Thurlow
in Lancaster, Ohio,
where Spring has *finally* arrived.

On 4/7/2013 3:35 PM, lacel...@frontier.com wrote:

To me, a griddle is a frying surface.  Home griddles are often a rectangular 
pan that sits across two burners on a stove.  Some stoves have a griddle in the 
middle, between the burners.  Commercial units are just a large frying surface.

Put 'griddle' in the eBay Search and see the variety of things that come up.

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[lace-chat] hacked account?

[Thurlow Weed]

 For several weeks now I've been receiving list messages from "Sabine"
via lace-chat.  All have been associated with offering "pleasure."  So
I'm wondering if someone's been hacked.  Has anyone else been receiving
these messages?
--
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Organist
Whitehall United Methodist Church
Whitehall, Ohio
res. Lancaster

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Re: [lace-chat] Names

[Thurlow Weed]

I've got one to match that!  Came across a female "Porphyria."  Nothing 
like being named after a rare and potentially fatal blood disorder!


Thurlow
Lancaster OH


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AND a  Clamidia! 
If any one doesn't know the John Thomas or the Clamidia email me. The  
Clamidia is spelt different from the infection!   Vivienne



  


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Re: [lace-chat] Re: American Meat

[Thurlow Weed]

That sauce sounds *wonderful!*  I think it might be very tasty on duck 
as well.


Thurlow
Lancaster OH

kilroy...@aol.com wrote:

I used to make the Cornish Hens stuffed with, Uncle Ben's long grain & wild
rice with an orange sauce.  I make up all of my own recipes and I have not
made this one in a while, so this is from memory.

Cook the rice.  Add to it sauteed mushrooms, shallots and thyme.  Stuff the
birds with the rice mixture.  Make a sauce using grated orange rind, fresh
orange juice, sherry, salt, pepper and thyme.  Baste the birds with the sauce
before putting in the oven and throughout the cooking.

Enjoy,
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Truths for mature adults

[Thurlow Weed]

I was observed a husband in a department store being asked by a sales 
assistant if he needed help with anything.  He responded, "I lost my 
wife about an hour ago in this store, and it's been quite enjoyable!"


Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio

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In a message dated 10/19/2010 2:13:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
joybee...@comcast.net writes:


<>
Then your husband won't be able to locate you when you get separated  in 
the mall, one of the most important advantages of cell phone  use.
 
Devon


  


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Re: [lace-chat] my favorite comic strips ... and vuvuzelas

[Thurlow Weed]

 It is interesting that until recently I had never heard of Vuvuzelas. 
Through Facebook, I came across the music for "Vuvuzela Concerto in Bb." 
Now they're appearing on chat, and numerous FB postings.  They seem to be
rather insipid!

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  dom from Paris , france .
  
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Whitehall, Ohio

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Re: [lace-chat] cotton gloves

[Thurlow Weed]

 Some cotton gloves are heavier than others; mine are a medium weight. 
To be honest, I've never been aware of debates regarding whether or not
to use them.   I'm not certain that the bleach used in the manufacture
would be residual in the gloves, and would think that washing would
remove any residuals.  I can agree though, that turning pages can at
times be awkward, as well as picking up a very flat sheet from a very
flat surface.  I was always taught the reason for using cotton was
because of its ability to absorb sweat and oils.

Snug latex [surgical] gloves might be an option for providing better
grip, though I find them quit hot and sweaty! 

Overall, interesting points you raise, Linda.  Something to browse on the
Web and see what experts have to say about.  I'm all in favour of
whatever it may be that is best to use for whatever material to keep it
from deteriorating!  Maybe I should keep a selection of handling devices
ready to go?  This may become a very informative thread!

Thurlow

Linda Walton wrote:

  Thurlow Weed wrote:
  [snip]

Also, having some experience with archival materials, I would
*very
strongly recommend* you handle such documents minimally, and when
you do
wear white cotton gloves.  The cotton will keep the oils in your
skin
from contacting the paper and causing further deterioration.

  What is the general feeling these days among archivists and curators
  about the use of white cotton gloves?  I've noticed that some places
  demand them, while others prefer you not to use them.

  While I can see the protective argument, I find that it is hard to
  handle documents, textiles, and other fragile items while wearing
  them - so I worry about doing more damage than I prevent.  It is
  especially difficult to turn pages or pick up a sheet from a flat
  surface.  And I always feel clumsy and often hot.  Does the bleach in
  white cotton constitute a risk?

  Is there an ongoing debate?  Would some other sort of glove - maybe
  thin silicon rubber? - or an instrument be better?  Does skin oil
  help to conserve - say - parchment?

  While I'm happy to keep to the rules of any library or museum
  allowing me to examine their archives, I'd like to know the best way
  - or at least the various arguments - for handling things of my own.

  Linda Walton,
  (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.,
  surrounded by archives I've just been loaned for a new study I've
  been asked to make - and feeling anxious!).

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Re: [lace-chat] old and fragile

[Thurlow Weed]

 Goodness, what a treasure to find!!  My partner and I have been very
busy with genealogy and quite familiar with such gems.   Carl's got
several items of that nature that he's taken to a local framer's and had
carefully framed under museum glass (can also use archival glass), which
protects against UV damage.  The framer is experienced in handling
delicate antiquities so we trust her completely in that process.  All
mounting is done using acid-free archival preservation materials.  He
just had a charcoal sketch of his ggg-grandmother conserved in this
manner.

Your rolled up situation presents its own set of problems.  Doubtless it
has been rolled up for quite some time and will resist unrolling.  It's
probably quite dry, which is not a good situation.  I had an idea on
this, so I surfed the web a bit and found this information which confirms
my thoughts on how to address this: (from
http://www.loricase.com/faq.html)

7. I have an old wedding certificate that has been stored rolled up for
many years. It is quite brittle. How can I safely unroll and flatten it?

Often when paper objects have been stored rolled for many years, they
become quite brittle. In order to safely unroll your certificate,
moisture needs to be restored to the document (known as humidification).
Placing your document in a humid environment for several hours should
make it more flexible, allowing you to carefully unroll and flatten it.
Watch out for ink on the document that might bleed (don't humidify it if
the ink will run). You may have to experiment with the level of humidity
and the amount of time you leave the document exposed; monitor to make
sure it does not get saturated. Attempt to carefully unroll the document
while it is still humid; do not proceed if it resists or begins to crack
or tear. You could then flatten it by placing the document between two
pieces of blotting paper, and then place a heavy object on top for a few
days.

***

If I were doing this, I would try placing the document on a clean dry
linen cloth on an immaculately clean baking sheet and place on an oven
rack; I would then place a pan of very hot water on the bottom of the
oven.  The oven compartment will keep the humidity in one place.  Do NOT,
of course, turn the oven on!  You will want to leave the oven door open a
bit to allow excess heat to escape -- you want humidity, not heat.  Let
it sit for maybe an hour and then check to see if the paper is willing to
unroll any, and check for possible ink runs, per above.  If no ink runs
and paper not willing to unroll yet, keep humidifying, and change out
with fresh hot water as needed.

Also, having some experience with archival materials, I would *very
strongly recommend* you handle such documents minimally, and when you do
wear white cotton gloves.  The cotton will keep the oils in your skin
from contacting the paper and causing further deterioration.  If there is
a historical or preservation society in your area, you could contact them
for guidance as well.  Larger organisations (such as state historical
societies) usually have people on staff experienced in such matters.

Good luck!

Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio

cearbh...@mywdo.com wrote:

  I am asking for advice on "non" lace preservation. I found my great
  grandparent's original marriage certificate and their family record (a large
  Victorian sheet which has all the births deaths and marriages inked in) Both
  are rolled up and FRAGILE. How do I unroll and preserve them from
  deteriorating further and falling apart?? I thought maybe ironing them
  between waxed paper?? (works for preserving fall leaves that come off of
  trees) These are from the late 1800's so very very old. I REALLY REALLY
  REALLY want to keep these. I am the family historian (I do the genealogy
  research) and any and all original family documents are very precious.

  Thanks in advance

  Cearbhael

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Re: [lace-chat] Snapshot of my life

[Thurlow Weed]

Uhm, I appear to be squeaking by in the 11-15 range.  Unfortunately, 
there are several things not on the list that, if added, would suggest I 
remember watching Methuselah growing up


To start with, "typewriters."  My other half told me about two years ago 
his young niece (then 11 years old) asked him, "Uncle Carl, what's a 
typewriter?"


Yikes!  :)

Thurlow in Lancaster Ohio

Jean Nathan wrote:



Older Than Dirt Quiz :
Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about.
Ratings at the bottom.
1. Blackjack chewing gum
2.Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water
3. Candy cigarettes
4. Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles
5. Coffee shops or diners with tableside juke  boxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines on the telephone
8 Newsreels before the movie
9. P.F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11.. TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and 
were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were 
only 3 channels... [if you were fortunate])

12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14. 45 RPM records
15. Greenstamps
16. Hi-fi's
17. Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19. Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Roller skate keys
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-ins
24. Studebakers
25. Wash tub wringers

If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young
If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older
If you remembered 11-15 = Don't tell your age
If you remembered 16-25 = You're older than dirt!
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Re: [lace-chat] Wrapping presents with a cat in the house

[Thurlow Weed]

 This is when you recuperate with the Christmas Rum Cake you made
earlier.  Even though it probably didn't turn out that great, it's got
enough rum in it, it won't matter.

Thurlow Weed
Organist & Composer
Whitehall UMC
Whitehall, Ohio

Jean Nathan wrote:

  Deleted the message before replying to it, so can't remember who
  asked.

  Wrapping Presents with a Cat in the house

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[lace-chat] Re: Yoghurt making

[Thurlow Weed]

 All this yoghurt making is making my mouth water!!  I think it was last
year I was able to procure some raw milk from a dairy and made my first
ever yoghurt, though I didn't use a machine -- don't have one.  Made it
the old-fashioned way.  Boy, was it delicious!!!  Beats the store-bought
stuff, even the organic, any day!
--
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Organist & Composer
Whitehall UMC
Whitehall, Ohio

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[lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

[Thurlow Weed]

Spiders,

I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with a perplexing health situation, 
and I'm hoping that our vast knowledge base might contribute something 
useful (as it so often does!).


For several months now, I've been dealing with chronic insomnia.  It 
appears to have initially been brought about my colon stasis ("polite" 
way of saying I was plugged up for a while).  That was dealt with, diet 
changed to be much healthier.  My doc suspected my thyroid might be 
involved as well, and testing determined I'm mildly hypothyroid.  So now 
I'm on medication - Armour Thyroid 30mg.  After a couple of weeks, the 
doc re-checked TSH levels and saw that although they had gone down, he 
felt they hadn't gone down enough in those two weeks, so he increased 
the dosage to 60mg.  Since then my insomnia has gotten worse (every 
other night I'm unable to fall asleep, even with sleeping pills).


I've just spent quite some time online searching medical forums about 
this, and have learned that too high a dosage can cause marked 
insomnia.  A coworker of mine who also has hypothyroidism (for many, 
many years) said it takes time to lower TSH levels, one has to be 
patient.  I'm also looking up info on hypothyroid friendly diets.


So I'm curious if anyone else has had similar experience to what I'm 
dealing with here.  Any input/thoughts, etc are most welcome!


Thurlow Weed
Lancaster OH
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Re: [lace-chat] Cats and mice

[Thurlow Weed]

This gave me a chuckle!  Our house, granted is a large one -- 18 rooms 
total, of which 14 are regular "living" rooms.  There is an unfinished 
walk-up attic which houses the library annex, a reading area and a pipe 
organ.  About a month ago I was inside the organ checking the compass 
springs on the partially-finished tracker windchest and discovered to my 
unpleasant surprise *mouse droppings* inside!


Of course, the garret is off-limits to felines, but there is no rodent 
food source up there, which means they would have to descend to the 
hunter's lair to forage; three of our six cats are skilled hunters!  We 
had *a* mouse last fall, which Alexei (our Russian blue) was able to 
dispatch with greatest efficiency. 

What mouse in its right mind would take up residence in a house with six 
cats, one of whom in particular is a most ruthless mouser!? 


Thurlow
Lancaster OH
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Alice Howell wrote:

Had a true story to pass on.



Postnote -- DH reported that one of the mice was larger than the rest of them, 
so I have hopes that they caught the adult mouse and got rid of the whole 
bunch.  This is the first time in 35 years that we have had any mice.  None of 
our other cats ever had a chance to catch a mouse.


  


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[lace-chat] :) He said to me

[Thurlow Weed]

We haven't had too many funnies on the list lately, and this one just 
landed in my inbox, so I thought I'd share.

Thurlow
Lancaster OH

HE SAID TO ME
 
He said to me . . . I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing 
to put in it
I said to him . . . You wear pants don't you?

He said to me . . . Shall we try swapping positions tonight?
I said . That's a good idea - you stand by the ironing board while I sit 
on the sofa and snore!
 
He said to me... ... What have you been doing with all the grocery money 
I gave you?
I said to him . .Turn sideways and look in the mirror!

He said to me. . Why don't women blink during foreplay?
I said to him .. . They don't have time

 
He said to me. . Why is it difficult to find men who are sensitive, 
caring and good- looking?
I said to him . . . They already have boyfriends.
 
He said...What do you call a woman who knows where her husband is every 
night?
I said. .. . A widow.
 
He said to me . . . Why are married women heavier than single women?
I said to him .. . . Single women come home, see what's in the fridge 
and go to bed. Married women come home, see what's in bed and go to the 
fridge..

SEND THIS TO A SMART WOMAN WHO NEEDS A LAUGH AND TO THE GUYS YOU THINK 
CAN HANDLE IT!


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[lace-chat] quiet list?

[Thurlow Weed]

Just wondering if it's my 'puter has done something inconsiderate, but I 
haven't had anything from chat since 6/2.  Is the list really that quiet?


Thurlow
Lancaster OH
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Re: [lace-chat] English Civil War question

[Thurlow Weed]

 Brenda, this explains a small puzzle I've had about the text which
didn't seem to make sense.  The letter begins: "James Duke of Lenox
knight of the most noble order of the Garter and one of the Lords of his
Ma.ties most honoble privie Concell and Jerom Earle of Portland Baron of
Mayland Captaine and Governor  of the Isle of Wight and Vice Admiral of
the seacost in the said Isle and Comtie of Southton Lords Leiuetennts of
the said Comtie."

It was the "Lords Lieutenants of the said County" that has puzzled me. 
Looking at the signature of the Portland on the one link, it is not a
match to the one on my document.  This makes me wonder if they would have
had "assistants" (by whatever title) who signed these sorts of documents
on their behalf, and perhaps sealed them as well? 

The document is starting to fall apart, and I'm increasingly considering
that it should be preserved/conserved by an appropriate historical entity
in an appropriate setting.  But of course, before I might actually do
anything like this, I want to learn as much as I can about it.  I'm
finding I have lots of things yet to discover here, all quite exciting!

Thurlow

Brenda Paternoster wrote:

  Lennox and Portland were jointly Lords Lieutenant of Hampshire (or is
  it Lord Lietenants of Hampshire?) which is why they were charged with
  raising a militia.

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[lace-chat] English Civil War question

[Thurlow Weed]

Greetings to all spiders on this the first day of Spring!

So why is it so much colder today than yesterday?  :(

I have a question highly off-topic, but there is such a wealth of 
knowledge here I'm hoping someone on the list is an English Civil War 
history buff or historian or have connexions thereunto and can provide 
some help.


For many years I've had years a military draft (conscription) document 
signed and sealed by the James 4th Duke of Lennox and Jerome 2nd Earl of 
Portland, and is dated 12 December 1636.  It commissions a man with "the 
charge and leadinge of all the able men from the age of sixteene to 
threescore furnished and unfurnished to be taken within the hundreds of 
Odiham and Crondall."  It is a form letter, with all spaces completed 
with the name of the man commissioned, where to bring them, who is in 
charge, etc.  My late father found this piece of paper folded up and 
stuck inside an old book in a second-hand bookseller's.  I think he paid 
25 cents for an uninteresting book just so he could get this 
interesting-looking "old document" stuck in its pages.


I'm curious to know if such a thing would be considered a rare document, 
would this be something of significant interest to history buffs or 
historians, does it have any value, etc., as well as suggestions for 
preservation, if other than a good quality acid-free sleeve.


Please respond privately.

Thurlow Weed
Lancaster, Ohio
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Re: [lace-chat] Crocodiles etc.... (Long Message)

[Thurlow Weed]

This made me think of a sea voyage I took with my parents in 1977 to 
Nassau, Bahamas from Miami.  We were all birdwatchers, and my father had 
somehow tracked down a birder in Nassau.  The gentleman gave my father, 
as a gift, a bottle of Cuban rum -- Batista rum!  As we came through 
Customs in Miami, of course we had nothing to declare, since the rum was 
pre-Castro and thus perfectly legal!  The Customs agent, however, was 
quite prepared to confiscate the rum and write up some official-looking 
paperwork, and probably have us all detained for attempting the smuggled 
contraband rum into the U.S.  However, when my father pointed out the 
*date* on the label -- I think it was 1952.


A very disappointed Customs agent!  One wonders where that bottle would 
have ended up, had it been contraband?  In the evidence locker? or 
perhaps in the agent's home liquor cabinet...?  :)


Thurlow Weed
Lancaster, Ohio

Sue Duckles wrote:
  We  
saw a rum factory (but don't mention the French authorities and the  
rum.)  Chris got his Cuban  
Cigars, (we weren't allowed them when we went to Nassau in '02 because  
we couldn't take them back to Miami).  


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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Agnes and the world of measures

[Thurlow Weed]

One would hope with a very highly accurate scale 

One that has intrigued me, as there seem to be several values, is the 
stone.  Different values for different commodities.  At least for 
measuring human weight, the stone seems consistent at 14 pounds.


Thurlow
Lancaster OH

Agnes Boddington wrote:

but just wonder how you measure 27.34 grains .
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[lace-chat] Re:

[Thurlow Weed]

I've not seen such a thing before, but I decided to Google "wooden 
earring stands" and found *lots* of things of very similar design.  
Compared to the others, I'd say this is a very modern design, whereas 
the ones I found online are more "classical."  I suspect you're correct, 
Margery, in saying it's an earring stand.  Alas, being a man without 
pierced ears, I have no need for such things, and clip-ons look like 
they would be painful to wear.  (Sorry, couldn't resist putting this in! 
)


Here's a link to one of the earring stand sites I found, for 
comparison:  http://www.tiswood.co.uk/jewellery/earring%20stands.htm


Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio

Margery Allcock wrote:

Malvary wrote:
Sorry to post to both boards, but sister Jacquie has asked me to post the
following pictures for some urgent help in identifying this object.  

I think it's an earring stand.  


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[lace-chat] French help needed

[Thurlow Weed]

French-fluent spiders, Help!

I need to have a brief cover letter translated into French.  The 
hospital where I work has no French interpreters, and our Interpretive 
Services dept advised I use freetranslation.com.  I tried that, but even 
with my excessively limited knowledge of the language, it didn't look 
right.  Then I noticed the disclaimer saying it was a "gist" translation 
intended only to convey the general meaning.


Please respond privately, and I can email the short cover letter.


Thank you!
Thurlow Weed
Lancaster Ohio
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Re: [lace-chat] Gobbledygook

[Thurlow Weed]

Eschew obfuscation.



"As leading knowledge navigators you are mission critical
to achieving robust and effective discharge pathways
from the secondary phase of the intensive learning scenario.">


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Re: [lace-chat] Dictionary with Word

[Thurlow Weed]

All, 


I simply *must* throw a comment in on this one!

I have a tendency to use archaic words from time to time, as well as 
obscure words and terminology.  It generally provides much amusement to 
see what the spell checker -- both in Word and Mozilla Thunderbird 
(e-mail) -- will suggest as alternatives.


Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio



Dear Friends,
I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to REMOVE from the
dictionary which is part of Office 2003. I accidentally added one spelled
incorrectly and can't stand it popping up all the time.

Thanks
David in Ballarat



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Re: [lace-chat] FW: Please Be Extremely Careful

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Wendy,

You get points for your sincere concern and wanting to look out for us.  
Unfortunately, this virus is a hoax that has been circulating since 
2002.  Whenever I get a warning like this, I check it out at Snopes.com. 
Most of the time, these warnings are hoaxes, but every once in a while 
they turn out to be true hazards.  Goodness knows nobody wants to have 
their 'puter compromised by these hackers.  My own machine was partially 
hijacked in December -- task manager was disabled, and a few other 
things were disabled as well.  I had to reload Windows.  While I was 
fortunate in being able to save *all* my data files in Word, Excel and 
other programs, I lost *all* emails & addresses, as well as Internet 
bookmarks.


Anyhow, here's the Snopes link about this matter:  
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp



Thurlow Weed
Lancaster, OH

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Re: [lace-chat] Locomotives (steam)

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As long as we're venturing from adjectives as nouns into steam 
locomotives (locomotors? ), I'll have to put my two cents in. 

When I lived in South Florida, I was quite active with the Gold Coast 
Railroad, which operated several locomotives, including a steamer.  For 
about five years I operated a 4-6-2 light Pacific oil-burning steam 
engine from 1913 for our weekend runabouts on the property.  I enjoyed 
it immensely and in due time got quite accustomed to the 120-degree heat 
in the engine cab in the middle of August.  The 95-degree warmth outside 
absolutely felt like air-conditioning when you stepped down from the cab.


I also had the joy of being part of history:  The museum owns and 
maintains the U.S. Presidential Pullman, the "Ferdinand Magellan."  In 
1990, the Pentagon requested use of the car in Ogdensburg, New York for 
the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Ogdensburg Agreement.  This 
is the joint US/Canadian defence agreement.  The agreement was signed on 
a sister car to the Magellan, however, that car was no longer 
roadworthy.  Of the seven cars in the original fleet, only two remained: 
the Magellan and one sister.  It was also appropriate that "U.S. No. 1" 
be the car used for this auspicious occasion.


Since the car must be attended at all times if out on an exhibition 
tour, three of us got to live aboard this armoured fortress for a month 
while it went from Miami to upstate New York and back.  Of course, we 
slept in the crews quarters and in Stateroom A.  Staterooms B & C were 
*absolutely* off limits, though we did use the connecting shower, as we 
weren't able to get the one in the crew quarters to work right.  (Hadn't 
been used since Kennedy administration.)  The only real workout was in 
NY, when the air pressure in the water tank had run out, and I got to 
manually pump it up again for about an hour.  (Imagine pumping an 
over-sized bicycle pump for an hour!)


Thurlow
Lancaster OH

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[lace-chat] shapely music

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Spiders,

My curiosity is getting the better of me, so I'm going to pose a musical 
question.  Vicki in Maryland is doing her musical survey of our number, 
and after a marvellous weekend past of Sacred Harp (shape-note) singing, 
I'm curious if any other spiders out there do Sacred Harp or other 
shape-note singing (Missouri Harmony, Southern Harmony, etc). 

Also, though it's not shape note music (that I'm aware of), how about 
singers of West Gallery Music in the UK?


So, any shape-note or west gallery singers out there beside little ol' 
me?  :)  Please respond privately.


Thurlow
Lancaster Ohio

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Re: [lace-chat] Dutch lace makers

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If you're including half-Dutch lacemakers, then Lancaster, Ohio is where 
I'm hanging out.  My mother is Dutch (born & raised in Den Haag), and my 
father was an American from Texas.  And they met and married in Rome, 
Italy, which is where my mother assures me my existence began.


Agnes Boddington wrote:

OK, so where else in the world are we Dutch lace makers hanging out?
I was born not that far from where Anneke lives: Brunssum near Heerlen.
Married an Englishman and moved to UK; rest of family all in the 
Netherlands, quite a few still in the south of Limburg.
So "groetjes" to all my fellow Dutch lace makers from a foggy and cold 
East England.

Agnes Boddington

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[lace-chat] music on line

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 Spiders,

The only thing this has to do with lace is that as a musician I weave
notes together in a fashion similar to lace, only it involves sound
instead of thread.  I also weave together music on paper.

For those of you with a penchant for liturgical music, I feel a minor
obligation (?) to toot my own horn, as it were.  There is a wonderful
public domain choral music library on the Internet, mostly for long dead
composers, but also for many living ones who, like myself, just want to
get our music out there and available to people.  I've created a page and
uploaded what I have thus far been able to typeset:
http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Thurlow_Weed

Anyone interested is welcome to download and print music for performance
use -- it's free music!  I seem to recall we've got not only musicians in
our group, but a few clergy as well.

Thurlow Weed
Lancaster, Ohio

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[lace-chat] Re: cat survey

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I suppose I'll go ahead and list my menagerie

Sheridan Alexander: a neurotic Maine Coon.  He hasn't been the same 
since he lost his buddy Sir Christopher Sebastian, World-Famous 
Adventurer and Explorer about two years ago.  Keeps to himself, and 
"nests" in strange places, such as a litter box, the window sash, 
staircase newel, top of an open door, etc.


Aleksei Krishtof,  a Russian Blue

Miss Josephine Claire, a Turkish Angora, white with black.  A little 
princess; all others are beneath her. (Wonder if she's got Persian blood 
in there somewhere?)


Louisa Peabody,  possibly Turkish Angora, orange tabby colour.  She's 
"special needs":  she milks everybody for attention, thinks she's 
neglected


Victoria Elizabeth.  Appears to be a red point Siamese tabby.  A very 
sweet, gentle disposition, and plays "mother" to all the others except 
Aleksei, to whom she seems more a consort.  Victoria walked right in one 
morning as my SO opened the door to leave for work.  Curiously, *none* 
of the other cats ever gave her a single hiss, swat, or any other 
aggressive gesture.   I've never seen this happen with a new cat in the 
place.  She was instantly accepted by all.  Has anyone else encountered 
this sort of thing?  Also, Aleksei insists on sleeping by himself, yet 
he allows Victoria to curl up next to him.  Any others trying that get a 
hiss and a swat.


All the children have had their reproductive privileges rescinded.


Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio
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Re: [lace-chat] :-) Tourist office enquiries

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These remind me of a gentleman I've known for many years who was the 
ticket seller for the Hemingway House Museum on the island of Key West, 
Florida.  He was also a retired Vaudeville actor and could think quickly 
on his feet.  All this came in handy for answering questions the 
tourists posed.  The most frequently asked questions (and I actually 
heard someone ask one of these) were, "Does the water go all the way 
around the island?" and "Will there be more than one sunset tonight?"  
Without fail, he could come up with a different answer to the same 
questions every time!


I decided one day to pretend to be a tourist and ask him about the water 
going all the way around the island.  He replied, "Yes, but only on the 
Pacific side!"  (Key West is an island with the Atlantic Ocean on one 
side and the Gulf of Mexico on the other.)  For those of you familiar 
with Hemingway and his cats, he's often been asked if the cats milling 
about the house and grounds are real cats.  Also questions such as, "Is 
that real water in the swimming pool?"


Thurlow in Lancaster, OH
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Jean Nathan wrote:
We have several local tourist offices in this area, and the one in 
Wimborne (a couple of miles from were I live) has just reported some 
of the enquries they received from visitors during the past year. They 
made me laugh, but perhaps that's just because I live in the area.





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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Folding a t-shirt

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WOW!!!  Rather impressive how nimbly she does it!.  I got a folded 
T-shirt out of my dresser so I could try this.  After a couple of tries 
(trying to find the midway down point on the shirt), I got the hang of it.


I wonder if there's a similar snappy method for packing long-sleeve 
button down shirts for travel...


Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio


Sue Babbs wrote:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=IbTnRkEn8U8

-

having watched a couple of times I had to try it out for myself and 
was amazed. It works! So quick and easy, and with such neat 
results. Wow!


Sue

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[lace-chat] user manual warnings

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Spiders,

It is amazing the apparent issues people have had with various 
appliances and tools to warrant all manner of odd warnings in User Manuals.


Yesterday I purchased a new coffeemaker as my old one died Saturday.  I 
perused the User Manual to see what interesting dire warnings there 
might me, if any.  I was not disappointed.  Item number 10 on the list 
reads, "Do not place this appliance on or near a hot gas or electric 
burner or in a heated oven."


I presume there have been those trying to bake their coffee?

The same manual, on the next page, informs that "a short power supply 
cord is provided to reduce the hazards from becoming entangled in or 
tripping over a longer cord."  Tripping over?  I'd have to be ambling 
down the countertop, and I rather prefer to walk on the floor, thank you 
very much!   Fortunately, the next entry informs me that I may purchase 
an extension cord if I "exercise care in its use."


Of course, this is a Mr Coffee 12-cup coffeemaker  I wonder if other 
brands have similar warnings about not baking your drip coffeemaker.


Thurlow
sunny Lancaster, Ohio

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Re: [lace-chat] English as it is Spoked

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The one that has crept into American English that irritates me is the 
use of "impacted" instead of "affected."   For example, "People were 
impacted by the weather."  What's wrong with "People were *affected* by 
the weather."  (Unless, of course, people were in the path of a large 
meteorite, in which case I suppose they could quite literally be 
impacted...)


Thurlow


David wrote:

There are a few expressions which have crept into Australian English 
(goodness knows from where) that really bug the pedants. These include 
such phrases as:


- "growing an economy", where the verb "to grow" seems to have 
replaced those such as: to develop, improve, increase, enlarge, 
advance, expand, etc. I've even heard it used with reference to 
"growing the audience numbers"

- "ahead of" has replaced: prior to, before
- "in back of" has replaced: after, following, behind.



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[lace-chat] grammar and spoked Henglish

[Thurlow Weed]

This promises to be a most interesting thread.  There was a movie made 
here in the US called "The Village," which was about a modern-day 
Utopian community living as if it were the 1800s.  It's variously 
categorised as horror, adventure or drama, though it really isn't any of 
those.  One of the things one notices is the particulars of grammar, 
most especially avoiding a preposition at the end of a sentence.


This was spoofed marvellously in one of the "Scary Movie" series (I 
don't recall which one; it's a sequence of US movies that spoof 
well-known horror/scary movies).  In a scene spoofing "The Village," one 
of the characters utters this line, which I actually wrote down so I 
would remember -- and it shows that no matter how hard you try, those 
prepositions are sometimes unavoidable:  "Do not speak of that of about 
which we talk of not speaking about."


And this comes as the last of a sequence of increasingly prepositioned 
sentences, each one getting increasingly worse until it ends with that 
'masterpiece.'


Thurlow
in Lancaster Ohio,
who speaks not of that of about which we do not speak, about which I 
have already spoken.. [insert endless groaning here :) ]  And if 
your brain can get around that one, consider it your mental exercise for 
the week


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Re: [lace-chat] call centres

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This puts me in mind of the incident that happened -- twice -- to my 
SO.  He works in HR (Human Resources [Personnel]) on the second floor of 
a hospital campus building.  The same building also contains various 
offices, and physician offices.  A female (yes, blonde!) came in looking 
a bit puzzled/confused/lost.  She was looking for Dr So-and-so's office.


"Do you have the Suite number?" asked Carl.  "Yes, this paper I have 
says he's in Suite 402, but I don't know what floor that's on."  (Uh, 
that would be the 4th floor!)


When he was coming back from lunch there was another woman (not blonde, 
probably a dye job ) studying the building directory.  Carl offered 
his assistance, and learned that this lady, too, was looking for a 
physician office, which she could identify on the directory along with 
the suite number, but had no idea that her destination (Suite 306) was 
on the third floor.


Apparently, this sort of thing happens about once a week.  He'd just 
never had it happen twice in the same day.


Thurlow
Lancaster Ohio

Joy Beeson wrote:

 to explain sweetly and gently to her that computers needed power 
just like office lights, and if the office lights were out, then the 
computer was too, and that yes, if she
hadn't saved her work she had probably lost everything she'd done so 
far in WordPerfect.





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Re: [lace-chat] A piece of useless trivia

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Not only that, if one does not use a twenty-four hour clock, it will 
happen twice in the same twenty-four hour period AM and PM.  So it will 
actually happen four times this year.  Of course, I'll miss two of them, 
as I'm not normally in a state of wakefulness at 2 AM.  I'll catch the 2 
PM one...


Of course, there are 24 time zones around the world --- need I go on?  

Thurlow
Lancaster Ohio

Jean Nathan wrote:

Now shoot me down and tell me it's wrong that it will never happen 
again - I didn't come up with this:


At three minutes and four seconds after 2 AM on the 6th of May this 
year, the time and date will be 02:03:04 05/06/07. This will never 
happen again.


Of course in the UK it won't be until three minutes and four seconds 
after 2 am on the 5th June this year because we use the logical 
sequence of day, month, year, not month, day, year.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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Re: [lace-chat] Fwd: Are you smarter than a 5th grader???

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I would have to agree with that one, possibly because (among other 
things) I've never lived in the "Four Corners" area, nor did we devote 
any attention to it when I was in elementary school (that I can 
remember).  Or possibly it's because there is only so much room for 
information in my body, that I had to clean out the bits I wasn't using 
to make room.  Yeah, I like that one better. 

Anyhow, my way of playing "Trivial Pursuit" is just to read the cards -- 
the heck with the board and all the other parts!


Tamara P Duvall wrote:


My source wrote:


 My source and I agreed that the quiz tested memory for trivia rather 
than smarts.


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Re: [lace-chat] Fwd: Are you smarter than a 5th grader???

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I would have to agree with that one, possibly because (among other 
things) I've never lived in the "Four Corners" area, nor did we devote 
any attention to it when I was in elementary school (that I can 
remember).  Or possibly it's because there is only so much room for 
information in my body, that I had to clean out the bits I wasn't using 
to make room.  Yeah, I like that one better. 

Anyhow, my way of playing "Trivial Pursuit" is just to read the cards -- 
the heck with the board and all the other parts!


Tamara P Duvall wrote:


My source wrote:


 My source and I agreed that the quiz tested memory for trivia rather 
than smarts.



Thurlow
Lancaster Ohio

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[lace-chat] music software

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Spiders,

Before I forget, which I practically already have, I would like to thank 
everyone for the suggestions on how to get the cat's piddling safely out 
of an antique raw wool lined quilt.  Because fresh air seems to play an 
important role in the cleaning, I'm forcing myself to wait until Spring 
gets here and actually *stays* here to I can clean the quilt and put it 
carefully on the line outside for airing.


Now then, my music software question.  I'm looking for a music-writing 
program that doesn't cost an arm and two dozen legs that can do what I 
want.  I've tried a couple of downloaded free trial programs, but none 
of them seem to do what I want them to (simple things like tie or slur 
notes together in different voices within the same measure).


Over the years I've written quite a number of hymn-tunes, and one Missa 
Brevis, and I would like very much to get a music program that will 
allow me to write four-part hymns and put the verses within the staves 
and lined up with the correct notes.  Surely this is an inexpensive 
program that will do this easily?  I don't need anything that will allow 
me to write a symphony or anything terribly fancy, and I don't need lots 
of "bells and whistles" so long as there is a means to transpose the MS 
if I wish.


People in my church choir seem to get panicky and nervous when presented 
with music manuscript, so I need music writing software that will 
accommodate simple hymn writing.  Help!



Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio
home of a 2007 White Easter (at least the eggs were coloured -- made 'em 
easier to find in the snow)


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[lace-chat] Italian/Pompe

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 Spiders,

I forwarded this business to my mother, whose Italian is "meno moso"
(more or less still there -- she and my late father used to speak a lot
of Italian; it was the only other language they shared that I couldn't
understand.  Very useful for "adult speak" not for children).

She informs me this is 16th century Italian, and that a few hundred years
have somewhat changed the language a bit.  She had to cheat with her
dictionary a little it to refresh her memory here and there, and attempt
to account for changes in the language, but here is her synopsis; I hope
this helps.  It's actually starting to make some sense now (I think!):

Opera = work;
non = not,no;
men = (it could mean an abbreviation for meno = less);
bella = nice, beautiful;
chi = who, he who;
utile = (a) useful, practical, or (n.m.) profit, gain;
& neccesaria = and necessary;
et non piu veduta in luce = no longer seen in the light
luce = light, brightness, aperture, splendour.

the "chi utile" has me puzzled, since utile is an adjective or noun, not
a verb.

Thurlow in Lancaster OH
Heavy snow yesterday, flurries today.  Why am I collecting Easter eggs in
the snow?

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying

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Dear Spiders,

Well now, I suppose that's plausible.  As I understand it, "ruddy" is a 
reworking of "bloody."  For example, Gilbert & Sullivan's "Ruddigore"  
was a play on "Bloody Gore."  "Bloody" was considered to be (and I 
believe still is) a rather rude adjectival epithet.  "Ruddy" becomes a 
somewhat more polite version.  Of course, "ruddy" is "red-coloured," 
thus the association with blood. 


Thurlow
Lancaster OH
where it is now snowing somewhat heavily on the blooming tulips, 
jonquils, lilacs, dogwoods, and so forth, and we are looking at several 
more nights well below freezing.  We want Spring back!


H. Muth wrote:


Hello all,

I agree with Tamara about the first part of the saying and think that 
the second must be "ruddy son of a bitch!"  I've never known how 
'ruddy' is an insult.  I don't use any of these myself (in general, 
don't swear at all) but have heard them all at one time or another.


Heather
Abbotsford, BC
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[lace-chat] Cleaning perplexity

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Dear spiders,

I am faced with a perplexity on how to clean something, and I'm hoping 
our vast reservoir of cumulative knowledge might come to the rescue.


I have several quilts made by my great-grandmother, and from time to 
time use them on my bed, as they are wonderfully warm.  Recently 
however, a new feline member of the family, for reasons unknown, felt 
the need to relieve herself on my bed.  Fortunately I caught her at it 
before she could complete the process.  While there was a modern 
washable blanket on top of the quilt, enough soaked through onto the 
quilt to soil it.


The quilt is made of calico (so it's cotton), and it's lined (insulated) 
with raw unwashed wool.  So then, how does one clean this sort of  
soilage out of this type of quilt, other than carefully?  Should I use 
something like Woolite?  Will that work?  I don't want to try anything 
yet for fear of doing something untoward to the wool.  I was able to 
blot considerable excess urine with paper towels immediately after the 
adventure.


Thurlow
Lancaster, Ohio
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Re: [lace-chat] Tourism questions

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Having grown up in Key West, Florida I've heard all manner of 
interesting questions.  My favourite experience was the tourist couple 
standing at an intersection (Eaton and Simonton streets) looking at a 
local map and the street sign and obviously trying to figure out either 
where they were, or how to get somewhere from where they were.  As I 
approached them, I said, "You look a little lost.  I live here, may I 
help you?"  They replied yes, I could, they were looking for Eaton 
Street.  I pointed to the street sign they had just been looking at and 
then indicated the street.  The man replied, "We saw the sign but 
weren't sure if it was correct."


A friend of mine worked for many years as ticket seller at the Hemingway 
House, and is a Solomon's wealth of "stupid tourist questions."  The 
marvel of it is, he can offer different answer no matter how many times 
he's asked the same question!  Since Key West is an island, the various 
geological/geographical things one would associate with an island are 
applicable.  That having been said, here is my all-time favourite 
question, and answer that I've heard him provide:  Q- Does the water go 
all the way around the island?  A - Yes, but only on the Pacific side. 
(The same tourist came by on the way out and asked if there was more 
than one sunset that evening.)


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Re: [lace-chat] Spot the ....... and strings raffle

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Jean Nathan wrote:

Now that the end of 2006 has arrived, and all the stuff the 
shopsoverstocked with for Christmas is being cleared, it's time to 
play "Spot the first Valentine card" and "Spot the first Easter egg" 
(Cadbury Cream eggs don't count).


Upon popping into the local Meijer's store (a combined supermarket and 
department store) to pick up a bag of dry cat food this afternoon, I 
discovered as I passed by the greeting card section a prominent riser 
containing Valentine's Day cards. 

Since we love Halloween, I keep telling my other half we should start 
putting out the Halloween decorations around July or August for the 
benefit of those people who actually put up their Christmas decorations 
3 months early.


I will say, however, that I was delighted to see this past Thursday 
someone who still had a Halloween decoration up -- one of those witches 
who's flown into something.  In this case, the gable end of a small 
house.  If some people (like the people who live across the street from 
us) want to leave their Christmas decorations up for several months 
after the holiday, I say Halloween decorations are fair game as well.


Next year we plan to bake Halloween cookies for Christmas ... just to 
catch people by surprise, and to hopefully knock some sense into at 
least one


All this having been said,  Happy & Prosperous New Year to all!!


Thurlow
Lancaster Ohio
a warm wet winter so far, and I'm not complaining -- it's keeping the 
heating bill down


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Re: [lace-chat] Butter versus Margarine

[Thurlow Weed]

Dear Spiders,

For the most part, this is a hoax.  Being a butter-lover myself (baked 
things just do *not* taste as good with margarine, IMO) I was curious 
about all this.  Hurrah, something in defense of butter, perhaps?  But 
alas, not so, or at least not entirely.  Here is a link to the Snopes 
Urban Legen Reference Pages, and it gives quite a bit of info about 
butter and all the non-butter "alternatives" that are on the market 
today:  http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp.


Be all this as it may, I do not "contaminate my refrigerator with margarine.

Thurlow
Lancaster OH
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David in Ballarat wrote:


Dear Friends,
I haven't checked the validity of the discussion below - merely forwarding

David in Ballarat

Subject: Can't believe we eat this stuff!


Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys.  When it 
killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the 
research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure 
out what to do with this product to get their money back.  It was a 
white substance with no food appeal so they added the yellow coloring 
and sold it to people to use in place of butter.  How do you like 
it?  They have come out with some clever new flavorings.


DO YOU KNOW...the difference between margarine and butter?

Read on to the end...gets very interesting!

Both have the same amount of calories.

Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams.

Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over 
eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.


Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods

Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few only 
because they are added!


Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the 
flavors of other foods.


Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around 
for less than 100 years.


And now, for Margarine..

Very high in trans fatty acids.

Triple risk of coronary heart disease.

Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and 
lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) increases the risk of 
cancers up to five fold.


Lowers quality of breast milk.

Decreases immune response.

Decreases insulin response.

And here's the most disturbing fact  HERE IS THE PART THAT IS 
VERY INTERESTING!


Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC..

This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and 
anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, 
changing the molecular structure of the substance).


You can try this yourself:

Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded 
area. Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:


* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that 
should tell you something)


* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional 
value; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny 
micro-organisms will not want it as a home to grow.  Why?  Because it 
is nearly plastic.


Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

Share This With Your Friends.(If you want to "butter them up")

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[lace-chat] Names & Titles

[Thurlow Weed]

 Rosemary's post got me thinking a bit about my upbringing.  I was
discussing this thread with my mother by phone this morning, and she too,
despised being addressed as "Mrs Thurlow Weed."  She had her own name,
thank you very much.  Shortly after she was married, she encountered "Mrs
Thurlow Weed, the former Auwina van Dijk."  As far as she was concerned,
she still was very much "Auwina," nothing "former" about it. (And still
is to this day!)  In the US, she formally uses Auwina Weed, but when she
goes to the Netherlands to visit, the uses her maiden name of van Dijk.  
Part of it, she admits, is linguistics, as people in the US often become
helpless with a Dutch surname, and in the Netherlands the English "Weed"
produces some interesting spelling variations.

With regard to titles, I was always taught to address my elders as Mr or
Mrs So-and-so.  It was taught as a form of respect, that children are
never to address an older person by their first names.  That would be
disrespectful.  Of course, earned titles such as Dr, Rev, and so forth
were always appropriate.  As one grew up, this practise would be
continued to some extent among one's peers in business settings, until
such time as the professional relationship was close enough to allow
address by first name, or if one was invited to do so. One of my peeves
is the tendency nowadays of children addressing people of their parents'
or grandparents' generation by their first names.  I am not often in
surroundings with young children, but on the rare occasion that I find
myself so, I occasionally find myself correcting an (in my mind)
erroneous introduction, and I insist young children address me as Mr
Weed.  They're not old enough to address me by my first name.  
Addressing an elder by first name is a privilege, not a right.

Recently though, I'm finding younger people (in their 20s, I'm 40) are
addressing me as "Sir."  While I suppose this is done out of respect, I
find it a bit startling, as it is unexpected.  Am I starting to look that
distinguished, or just that old and wrinkled?  According to my SO, it's
the latter; according to everyone else, it isn't.  :)

I must add though, that my first grade teacher has implored me, since I'm
now an adult, to please address her as "Jeanne."  While I appreciated the
invitation, I told her she made such an impression on me as a child, and
drove home so firmly how to address one's elders, I had to politely
decline and continue to address her as "Miss Gruenwald."  It would feel
rude and impolite to do otherwise.  She laughed and then lamented that
she had the same trouble with nearly all of her former pupils.  "Perhaps
I taught them too well," she said with a chuckle.

But now I'm curious:  the tendency in the US of children addressing
elders by their first name; while I abhor it, I am curious to know if
this is the case in other countries as well.  Is this a US phenomenon, or
does it exist elsewhere?

Thurlow
an old-fashioned person
Lancaster, OH

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[lace-chat] first names

[Thurlow Weed]

This is certainly a very interesting thread! When my parents met, which 
was in Rome, Italy, the Italians didn't quite know what to do with my 
fathers names, Thurlow Weed.  Somehow it became "Carlo Guidi."  Some 
time ago I joined the local Dutch Club (since I'm half Dutch), and 
joined up in as Thurlow.  When I attended my first get-together, I 
discovered that while I've been in the US my whole life, nearly all the 
others were more recent arrivals, and they were having trouble either 
remembering or getting their tongues around "Thurlow."  I decided from 
that point on with the club I would go by my very Dutch middle name of 
"Berend."  Not only did they know what to do with that name and could 
easily remember it, but it would do my mother proud, as she sometimes 
complains I don't use that name enough!  I'm named Berend after my 
g-g-g-grandfather Berend Kunst, a famous Dutch poet and portrait painter.


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Re: [lace-chat] Surnames

[Thurlow Weed]

OK, I didn't think I was going to jump into the midst of the 
nomenclatural frolic, but what the heck.  It's been an interesting 
thread and answered several questions I often pondered.  Now with my 
mother being Dutch, when she married my American father, she followed 
Dutch tradition and used her married surname first, followed by her 
maiden name  (Weed-van Dijk.)


Now with regard to Jean's comment here, I knew a gentleman back home 
(Key West, Florida) originally from Scotland, I believe, named Denys 
Fitzpatrick.  It seems his family were all titled at some point, but 
then during his father's time, the monarch stripped him and his heirs of 
their title.  I'm not sure, but I think it was over some minor affront 
of some sort -- that's what I vaguely remember Denys telling me years 
ago.  His father got around it by making "Lord" or "Lady" part of his 
children's names. 

I'm also thinking that the use of hyphenated names in the U.S. is a 
relatively new thing.  It used to be rare to see it, and then only 
(usually) among the more affluent "society."  Now I see it quite a bit 
among all types of people.  I work in a hospital medical records 
department, and often end up processing stacks of birth certificate 
worksheets for inclusion into the mother's chart.  Sometimes the married 
mother is hyphenated; sometimes the baby is, regardless of whether or 
not the parents are married at the time.


Thurlow
Lancaster OH

Jean Nathan wrote:



A girl I once worked with joined the AA (car breakdown service), and 
the membership arrived in the name of Lady whatever-her-real-name-was. 
So from then on she decided to be known as that, saying that it wasn't 
a title - her first name was now "Lady".


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[lace-chat] :) Deja vu (amended)

[Thurlow Weed]

Tamara pointed out that no Pope died in 1981.  I nosed around the 
Internet, and found hits on this little bit everywhere.  I also came 
across a blog (samizdata.net) where this is being discussed and points 
out the Pope John Paul II was shot in 1981, but as we all know, survived 
that attempt on his life.  A blogger submitted this version of how it 
probably should have read to make it more accurate.  Even with some 
corrections, it's still interesting to see the commonalities between the 
two years.


And thanks to the Arachnes who informed me about the Ashes tournament.

*
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/007744.html

I believe it should have read as follows:

In 1981, Prince Charles got married, Liverpool were crowned Champions of 
Europe, England wins the Ashes and the Pope was shot.


In 2005, Prince Charles got married, Liverpool were crowned Champions of 
Europe, England wins the Ashes and the Pope dies.


Next time Prince Charles gets married, somebody better warn the Pope!


Posted by Stephen Gunter  at November 24, 
2005 03:10 PM 


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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Deja vu?

[Thurlow Weed]

This was forwarded to me by my former partner who seems to have the gift 
for finding such tidbits.  Thought I'd share.  But I also need education 
here:  what is the "Ashes tournament?"  I've never heard of this.  Would 
one of you wonderful Arachnes down under fill me in?  (It's annoying me 
not to know what is is that's happened twice along with the other three 
things!)


*

Year 1981
1. Prince Charles got married
2. Liverpool crowned soccer Champions of Europe
3. Australia lost the Ashes tournament.
4. Pope Died


Year 2005
1. Prince Charles got married
2. Liverpool crowned soccer Champions of Europe
3. Australia lost the Ashes tournament
4. Pope Died

Next time Charles gets married, somebody warn the Pope.

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[lace-chat] RE: Scotland names

[Thurlow Weed]

I thought something seemed odd about the LIL PRoof A business, but I'm 
not necessarily that alert at the hour of the morning I first read the 
article.  But now that it's been pointed out, it's so obvious it's 
embarrassing. 

However, if anyone is interested, I have an article I wrote several 
years ago (I update the date annually) about the Annual Spaghetti Snail 
Festival in Italy.  It even talks about the indigenous Semolina Flowers 
that grow up in the mountains near beds of fossilised snails.  It'll 
probably have to be an attachment, and it's long, so I hesitate to cut 
and paste to the list.

Thurlow
Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] scotland names (long)

[Thurlow Weed]

I'm pleased to know that it appears to be the EU Parliament pulling a 
fast one on us. When I sent the original email, I hadn't much time at 
hand, but have since googled and found nothing about this. I did, 
however, find all manner of fascinating sites with things about Scottish 
Gaelic and English "translations."

I was concerned that all this PC stuff had gotten quite out of hand -- 
goodness knows it's bad enough in the US. My email program (Mozilla) 
sends forwards as attachments, so I'm hesitant to send the fwd to the 
list, not knowing how it will show up. So I'll try the cut and paste 
method here. Ah, it looks like it's going to work.

Black day as EU fools with place names
EUROPEAN bureaucrats will push forward legislation today to force the 
Scottish Executive to change place-names that offend or discriminate on 
the grounds of race and gender.
In a move the Nationalists described as the "ultimate madness in 
political correctness", it has taken only a quorum of four Euro 
commissioners from Italy, Germany, France and Spain to redraw Scotland's 
map.
The German commissioner, Arlo Pilof, the architect of the 2006 Race and 
Gender Equality Imposition Code (conformity), an amendment to existing 
rules, said: "We believe many names do not conform, and we started with 
Scotland because it is the worst of the culprits with offensive names 
such as Skinflats, near Grangemouth."
However, he promised the Scottish Executive could apply for grants of up 
to €43.6 million (£28 million) to facilitate change.
That was dismissed yesterday by the Scottish Chambers of Commerce as a 
"drop in the ocean". A spokesman said: "Changing stationery and business 
cards could cost that alone."
The commissioners in Brussels have demanded "race and gender-sensitive" 
names found for towns such as Motherwell, Blackburn, Helensburgh, Fort 
William, Campbeltown, Peterhead, Lewis and Fraserburgh be changed.
A Scottish parliamentary group, set up in anticipation of the 
legislation, has made a start. Fort William, in the shadow of Britain's 
highest mountain, would become Fort Nevis by 2006, under one suggestion.
Edinburgh City Council is considering revising Arthur's Seat because the 
commissioners said its ancient name contained sexual undertones "likely 
to offend those visiting Edinburgh".
Under the new amendment the word "Glen" could be banned as 
gender-biased. Scotland Office officials have suggested a change to 
Vale, as in Valecoe and the Great Vale.
An SNP spokesperson said: "This is monstrous buffoonery, an outrageous 
waste of resources and politically correct madness.
"I understand, for example, that North Lanarkshire Council will consider 
plans to change Motherwell to Parentwell," the spokesperson said. "What 
is Dunbartonshire going to do with Helensburgh?"
Under European rules going back to 1986, a quorum of four member state 
commissioners have the right to table what is known as a "L.I.L Proof 
A", a prelude to any legislation which proposes to amend or remove a 
name or description "relating to a city, town or centre of habitation 
with more than eight people of voting age".
The four commissioners tabled the L.I.L Proof A in December and today 
the legislation will go before a committee of ten commissioners. It is 
expected to be law by 1 April, 2006.
The Scottish Executive had sought to win exemptions for places beginning 
with "Black", but the bureaucrats were adamant they were racist.
"We could hardly have places like Colouredford or the Coloured Isle, the 
Coloured Cuillins," said a spokesman.
However, the Executive has come up with an alternative, to revert to the 
Gaelic rendition of black - dubh - which it believes will be acceptable.
The spokesman added: "They won't know the difference, hopefully. And 
Burndubh and Dubhford don't sound too bad."
However, the greatest difficulty will be experienced by the producers of 
Ordnance Survey maps.
A spokesman said: "This is a nightmare, amending every map. I understand 
there will be a hiatus, where old maps are acceptable. But new maps will 
have to be in place by 2007.
"More cartographers will be needed and the process of re-tooling 
machines will begin next year.
"Inevitably, the cost will be high and prices will go up. We estimate, 
for example, a map such as the Landranger series for North Skye will 
retail at £94.20 by 2007."
Mr Pilof revealed that England would be next on the agenda, citing the 
Isle of Man as particularly worthy of change.
A Manx spokesman said yesterday: "I hope this is a long way off. We are 
two-time losers, what with the island's name and Douglas as the capital. 
It's ridiculous, isn't it?
"It's as if these people sat there all day and made up this stuff."

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[lace-chat] scotland to change place names?

[Thurlow Weed]

My former partner forwarded me an interesting article about the latest 
PC stuff going on in Scotland.  Considering the timing of the piece, I'm 
hoping that it's really a clever April Fool's Day thing, but nowadays, 
such PC things are far to common (unfortunately).

Place names such as Blackwell, Helensburgh, and Motherwell are 
considered non-PC, and likely to offend people.  I understand one 
proposal is to change "Motherwell" to "Parentwell."  (But mightn't this 
be offensive to grandparents?  )

Please, somebody tell me this buffoonery is all in jest for the Fools of 
April.

Thurlow in Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] :) hapless olympian

[Thurlow Weed]

This link will take you to a very amusing website reflecting the Olympics.  I
kept thinking about Mr McGoo while watching the animations.  I have an
"average" computer, and it took a little while to load, but it was well worth
the wait.  It gave me a good laugh before leaving for work this morning.

http://home.datacomm.ch/marco.fernando/fla/bozzetto/olympics.swf

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[lace-chat] thank you for help

[Thurlow Weed]

Spiders,

Thanks to the many of you who responded to my mystification with regard to
"dsps."  I now know that this is a "dessert spoon" and that it is roughly two
teaspoons, half a tablespoon.  This sounds like a "vintage" measure, yet none
of my 100-year-old cookbooks have it.

Now I can make the sweet shortcrust pastry dough I need for the tarts, and
make use of the two dozen strawberries I picked from the garden yesterday.  I
finally "planted" a dish of beer amidst the strawberries yesterday -- I'm told
this will help greatly in keeping the slugs away from MY strawberries.  I
don't like "prior usage" on my berries.

Thurlow
Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] recipe help needed

[Thurlow Weed]

Help!  I've found a lovely recipe for strawberry tarts, but the pastry recipe
contains a measurement with which I'm unfamilar, unless it's a misprint on the
website.  The recipe calls for "2 dsps icing sugar."  Can anyone tell me what
what or how much a "dsps" is?

Thurlow
Lancaster OH
where the strawberries are abundant this year.
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[lace-chat] sherry sauce for ice cream

[Thurlow Weed]

We recently made this recipe which we have found absolutely delicious, and at
the risk of being branded both a traitor and a hypocrite, will say it's better
than chocolate syrup on ice cream, though this applies only to vanilla ice
cream.  A flavoured ice cream will hide the taste of the sauce, so go ahead
and use chocolate.

This is a recipe that came from Marcussen's, a very well-known and favourite
caterer in Lancaster OH in the late 1800s thru early 1900s.  The sauce will be
light caramel coloured when done.

Wine Sauce

2 cups sugar
2 cups white corn syrup
1/2 cup hot water
2 cups sherry
2 teaspoons red food colouring

Cook sugar, corn syrup, and water to 234 degrees F.  Let cool; then add 2 cups
sherry and 2 teaspoons red food colouring.  Stir.  Serve over vanilla ice
cream.  Yield one quart, and keeps for months.

Now, my SO doesn't drink, but I haven't pointed out to him yet that since this
sauce is allowed to cool before adding the sherry, a highly reasonable portion
of the alcohol will be unevaporated.  In time, I may share this with him...

Thurlow
Lancaster OH
who's just had a bowl of vanilla ice cream with LOTS of Marcussen's sauce

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[lace-chat] evils of chocolate (long)

[Thurlow Weed]

Fellow chocoholics, there is danger in our sinful ways!  At least according to
Dr Kellogg and the directives found in the cookbook of the famous Battle Creek
Sanitarium.  I found a 4th edition at an antique store this afternoon, and
have had fun (?) reading through it.

Some recipes actually sound quite good, but others, such as lentil toast (for
breakfast) or delicious (?) oatmeal water, leave my tastebuds running for the
hills.  (Beet coffee?)

The section on beverages points out, with regard to tea, that "there is every
evidence that this common beverage is exceedingly harmful, and that the evils
of its excessive use are second only to those of tobacco and alcohol."

It continues to point out that tea contains two harmful substance, tannin and
theine, and that theine is in the same class of poisonous alkaloids as
cocaine.  Further, "The dependance of the habitual tea-drinker upon the
beverage, and the sense of loss when deprived of it, are among the strongest
proofs of its evil effects, and should be warnings against its use."

"Coffee, cocoa and chocolate rank in the same category with tea, as beverages
which are more or less harmful.  Coffee contains caffein, a principal
identical with theine and a modified form of tannin, though in less quantity
than tea.  Cocoa and chocolate contain substances similar to theine and
equally harmful, though usually present in much less proportion than in tea."

There probably weren't too many lacemakers spending any time at the
Sanitarium.

But for something that sounds *really* good on a hot day, they have a recipe
for *real* pink lemonade.  After you've made lemonade (with real lemons, of
course, and sugar), add a quantity of strawberry juice, red raspberry,
currant, or cranberry juice.  Sounds much better than "Oatmeal Drink" just
four above it.

Thurlow
in Lancaster OH
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Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: Bread Statistics

[Thurlow Weed]

Dear God in heaven!!!   I've got two loaves in the kitchen right now!!
Should I incinerate them?  Shoot them?  Drown them in a bucket?  How do we
protect ourselves?

And how dangerous is pita bread?

I was going to have a bedtime snack of some strawberry preserves on a slice
of bread, but I think I'll go for a small bowl of ice cream instead.  I just
hope I'm not attacked by bread in retaliation for rejecting it. :)

Thurlow
Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] for Vancouver CAN lacers

[Thurlow Weed]

I'm hoping someone in or around Vancouver, Canada can help with a question
that's got me intrigued.  My mother reads a Dutch newspaper (Hollandse Krant)
and she noticed an advert for a travel service located at 774 Thurlow Street.
My name is unusual enough, but to find a street by the same name piques my
curiosity.  Can anyone tell me after what "Thurlow" this street is named?

Thurlow Weed
Lancaster  OH
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Re: [lace-chat] Silly warnings on packaging

[Thurlow Weed]

Obviously this has been a problem at one point, though it begs the question
of what the person may have been trying to clean or remove on their person.
The mind reels with very strange images on this one!



> I just bought a packet of limescale remover wipes for my bathroom and
> kitchen sinks - if the water in Poole was any harder, it wouldn't come out
> of the taps. I found they don't actually work, so it's back to the liquid
> stuff. The warning on the packet of wipes is "Not to be used for personal
> hygiene."
>
> Jean in Poole
>
>

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[lace-chat] RE: Handicapped parking

[Thurlow Weed]

About two years ago, I had a serious illness from what turned out to be a
throat infection -- an exuberant overgrowth of the normal flora.  It was not
found early despite 2 trips to the MD and 1 to the ER.  It was three weeks
after the ER visit that I was finally able to get in to see the ENT
(ear/nose/throat specialist), who found the problem in about 10 seconds.
However, the pain was so intense up to then, that every swallow caused
excutiating pain in the throat and ear.  The ER doc had prescribed Tylenol 3,
and also Lidocaine (mixed 50/50 w/ Maalox) to use in the interim.  Because of
the frequnecy and strength of the medications, they not only took away the
pain, but also took away neuromuscular control in my legs.  I found myself
needing a handicapped placard for my car.

The experience was a real eye-opener when I would go to the market and see
people (glare at people?) without handicap ID parking in a spot that I really
needed, as I was walking with a cane at the time -- for a year, actually.  It
really drove home to me how important those spaces are, and what life savers
they are.

When I could walk without the cane, it was time to renew the placard, which I
decided not to do.  Though it was an effort, I chose to park in the nearest
regular space, even if it was some distance away.  God had seen fit to restore
reasonable walking ability to me, and more walking would be of great benefit
for my rehab.  And there were those who needed the space much more than me.
However, I now glare quite enthusiatically at those who "steal" the
handicapped parking slots!


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Re: [lace-chat] Re: rhyming words

[Thurlow Weed]

> At 03:36 PM 28/10/03 -0800, Joy Beeson wrote:
> >Let me sit and eat this orange
> >I sprained my knee, now it's a sore hinge.

Now this strikes me as something Gilbert & Sullivan would have come up with.
If anyone could force things into rhyming, they could!  ("Very Model of a
Modern Major-General is full of them.)

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Re: [lace-chat] Home again

[Thurlow Weed]

It's of course a frequent reaction, but startling, if not a tad frightening
to be coming from medical staff.  Doctors and nurses need to be very patient
people in order to deal with their patients in hospital.  And there are some
patients who can *really* test patience!  I work in a hospital, and it never
ceases to amaze me how nurses who are in the profession for the call
(healing the sick) are more and more in the minority.  Too many new nurses
are in it for the money first, patients second.  I also find it interesting
that those who really care about their patients have a pretty much zero
error rate on their paperwork and charting, probably because they take the
time to "do it right."

I'll get off my soapbox now...!

Thurlow
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> I took my travel pillow into hospital with me, but only mananged a couple
of
> inches of insertion - I wasn't there for recreation. The staff and other
> patients were absolutely fascinated, but the universal reaction was "I
> wouldn't have the patience to do that."
>
> Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] forest fires

[Thurlow Weed]

Yes, I noticed that today while reading the news at MSNBC.com.  There was a
lengthy article about it, and as I read, I couldn't help but wonder why it
hasn't been more newsworthy.  So many people being affected, fires so hot
that houses don't just burn, they actually explode; overall so much
devastation.  I recalled that though I had watched the evening news on TV
the night before, no mention was made of fires whatsoever.  And as long as
the fires have obviously been burning, I was quite surprised.  The European
heat wave has more coverage.  Now, lest I step onto a big soapbox here, I'll
get of the shoebox I've started with.  My thoughts and prayers are with all
those thousands of people who are now dealing with the loss of nearly
everything they own, and what a nightmarish ordeal it must be to rebuild
*everything* after such tragedy.  May God be with you and keep your lives
safe.

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Subject: [lace-chat] forest fires


> Amazing isn't it?  Last week we had around the clock coverage of the
blackout
> in Eastern Canada and the States.  Here in British Columbia we have the
worst
> forest fires going on in over 75 years..but we barely rate a footnote in
the
> news.  We have over 870 fires raging right now.  Forty thousand people
have
> been evacuated from their homes, and one complete subdivision in the city
of
> Kelowna has been destroyed, five others are now in danger too.  Is it any
> wonder that the people living in the Western part of the country feel
> alienated when this sort of thing is only noted in passing... and we're
still
> hearing about the blackout ad nauseum?  Sharon on Vancouver
Island...watching
> for fires with the rest of the Valley
>
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[lace-chat] Re: Power cuts

[Thurlow Weed]

I think I'll add my two cent's worth (of experience!).  I grew up in Key
West, Florida.  Our electicity came from a local generating plant and one
ont eh next island, both of which were quite old.  I think it was in the mid
1980s that the main plant was constantly breaking down at the same time they
were refitting everything to burn a less expensive fuel oil.  The result was
that they couldn't keep up with demand, and we had scheduled "brown-outs" of
about 4 hours per day, twice a day.  We also had daily UN-scheduled outages
as well, which could last anywhere from five minutes to five hours.

At the same time, our seawater desalinization plant was falling apart.
(Built by Westinghouse as an experimental project in the early 60s and given
a life expectnacy of 10 years.)  So we had water hours as well.  For about 2
hours per day, you had water pressure on the ground floor, and a reasonable
trickle on the next floor level.  During non-hours, you could fill a glass
in about 5 minutes.

We had a well and a cistern, so we always had water.  However, if we wanted
hot water for the bath, we had to heat it on the stove in the kitchen, carry
the pot 60 feet to the other end of the house, up 22 steps to the bathroom.
For cold water, we just hooked the garden hoze nozzle on a ship's pulley and
hoisted it upstairs to the back porch, and brought the hose in through the
bathroom door.  But unless you could take to 60 degree well water or 68
degree cistern water, you were stuck with schlepping that big pot of hot
water.  (Heck, we never went swimming unless the ocean was at least 78!
Freezing cold at anything below that!)  We lived with some electric and som
water for about two years, and learned valuable skills of how to adapt, how
to do without, and always have plenty of oil lamps and candles ready.  In
the evenings, we always had a small votive candle going in the living room,
so that if we had an unscheduled outage, we would have just enough light by
which to get more lamps, candles, flashlights...

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[lace-chat] music help needed

[Thurlow Weed]

Dear spiders,

Help!  I have been scouring the internet for quite a while for a particular
piece of organ music, but with no luck.  I'm hoping that perhaps a musical
spider, maybe in Belgium or elsewhere in Europe might know a "secret
source."

I'm looking for the music for "Improvisata" by Edgar Tinel, a Belgian
composer of the mid 19th to early 20th century.  There are one or two new
CDs out featuring his music, so one would think the music is available
somewhere.  But no luck with Schirmer or Novello or any other major, minor,
or obscure source that I can find.  I heard this piece broadcast recently,
and it is so wonderful that I want very much to have the music to add to my
organ repertoire.

Any music manuscript detectives in our web?

Thurlow in Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] Health tips update

[Thurlow Weed]

I would like to thank the great number of you who responded with so many
helpful suggestions.  Several of you suggested various versions of inhaling
(but only as far as the nose!) warm salt water.  I had all but forgotten
that trick and how helpful it was to me several years ago.

In the health food section of our supermarket I came across and herbal tea
containing, among other things, slippery elm bark, licorice root, and
marshmallow root, all of which are demulcents.  Halfway through the first
strong cup I immediately noticed a difference in the state of my throat.
This, spaced carefully with the salt water thing, has proved marvellous.

Now since I posted this plea for help, my SO has generously, though
exceedingly unintentionally, taken my brochitis upon himself, and is now as
miserable as I was but a few short days ago.  I'm about at the end of my
bout, and his is just beginning, so your many helpful suggestions will
continue to be of benefit.  (And hopefully to keep me from catching it
back!)

This (lace-chat) is certainly a strong web of fine silk created by some fine
spiders who really care not just about their work, but as much about each
other.  Thank you.

Thurlow
coughing and hacking away in Lancaster, Ohio
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[lace-chat] health tips?

[Thurlow Weed]

I know amongst are ranks are many experts on almost everything, and now I am
seeking suggestions for anything that can help me with bronchitis.  I caught
a cold about a week ago, and just as it was about to go away, it was very
rude and turned into acute sinusitis and acute bronchitis. My doctor gave me
an Rx for Levaquin, which is starting to do its thing, and I've been
drinking lots of chicken broth to the extent that I think I'm going to
sprout feathers anytime now.  I've also been having lots of fresh-squoze
orange juice and the hot water-vinegar-honey thing.  At least my fever's
gone down from where it was for two days (104.1) to a more manageable 99.2.

Anyone in lace-land have any other old-fashioned (or new-fashioned) aids to
getting bronchitisi/sinusitis to hurry up and go away?  I do want to thank
"Dr." Tamara Duvall, however, with providing us with the usual humour almost
everyday to read -- laughter is excellent medicine!!  (Even though it
initiates a coughing fit...)

Thurlow in Lancaster Ohio
who just learned all about the Mighty Mississippi this morning on the
History Channel
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Re: [lace-chat] :-) Anbody wanna sing?

[Thurlow Weed]

Jean,
these are marvellous!  I've just read through the titles and can answer some
of the questions for the gardener wannabe.  In order to attract the
"pleasing Japanese beetles, just plant Sterling Silver roses -- they seem to
thrive on them, and make the blooms look like less that what they're
supposed to, and more like swiss cheese. The strawberries are an excellent
way to attract slugs, who seem to have had little regard for the fact that I
planted the strawberries for me and not for them.  I won by using slug
killer granules, though I've learnt since then that taking a small empty cat
food tin and filling it with beer will do the same thing.  Perhaps this is
included in a chapter of the book about growing beer...?

Thurlow
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- Original Message -
From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:01 PM
Subject: [lace-chat] :-) Anbody wanna sing?


> Having looked at the web site Toni gave about gardening songs, I chose
> gardening books from the box at the bottom. Well worth looking at. I
> particularly liked these suggested book titles:
>
> How to weed thistles in the nude
>
> Nuclear Gardening -- Making Radiation Work for You
> . . . and the sequel (published posthumously) . . .
> Pest Control For Very Large Insects
>
> The Many Plants I've Known (and Killed)
> There are a whole load more:
>
> http://home.golden.net/~dhobson/conbooks.htm
>
>
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[lace-chat] RE:Onions/summer reading

[Thurlow Weed]

I think I'll de-lurk here and put in my two cents' worth.  I have always
loved onions, especially raw, though like most others I cry like a baby when
peeling and slicing.  Howeverm Jean Nathan's advise about aviding cutting
into the root seems worth a try. Hopefully I'll remember it next time I'm
faced with an onion.  Onios also contain a substance called quercitin which
is supposed to be one of the best things for soothing an irritated or
inflamed bowel.  This can be very useful for those with Crohn's disease.
Unfortunately for my SO, who has this uncomfortable affliction, onions
generally aggravate the, and the quercitin has no effect at all.

Thinking again about peeling onions -- considering I'm dealing with a cold
right now, my nose is still stopped up enough that I don't think it would be
able to detect onion fumes and send the message to the tear ducts to turn on
the faucet...

And since we've been discussing summer reading, I/ve finally pulled out for
a re-read The Complete Lucia by E.F.Benson.  It is a most delightful set of
books in one volume, and years ago the BBC made two of them into a short
series which starring Sir Nigel Hawthorne and Prunella Scales, among others

Thurlow in Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] Bats and Pterodactyls

[Thurlow Weed]

We had the most entertaining adventure Monday morning.  I had had a
sleepless night and my stomch was quite discombobulated for reasons unkown,
and I had already caleld in to work to advise I wouldn't be in.  Meanwhile,
my SO is getting ready for work, and as he comes up the stairs from having
showered downstairs, I hear a bit of a shriek from the landing.  He comes
running in my bedroom, announcing, "There's a bird or a bat in the house!"
Here I am groggy and queasy, having to identify some flying creature at 5
am.  Turns out to be a bat.  Carl escapes to go to work, I go back to bed.
Later that morning (stomach OK now, just hungry, and head dizzy from no
sleep) I get up to keep occupied so I can sleep normally.  I find the bat,
coax it onto a broom, take broom to window, juggle broom, bat flies away.

About noon I get a call from Carl, hoping I've gotten rid of the bat.  I
hear people giggling and chortling behind him; it was great amusement all
day for his co-workers.  By the time he got home, he had himself convinced
(sort of) that it wasn't really a bat, but a huge pterodactyl with razor
teeth and fangs 3 feet long trying to kill him.  Why it could have shredded
him in an instant!  And those tremendous claws on those enormous 6-foot
wings!  Thus inspired, I wrote a two-page short story of the Pterodactyl
Crisis, replete with allusion to the legendary Jabberwock.  Couldn't find
anywhere to insert mimsy borogoves, thoughno giring and gimbeling in the
wabe, either.  It still made for a frumious story about what was really the
cutest little bat.

Thurlow in Lancaster, Ohio
where the house (castle in the story) is current;y both bat-free and
pterodactyl-free
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Re: [lace-chat] Automatic Morons

[Thurlow Weed]

My mother's landlord back home had the same idea years ago, and it resulted
in an interesting twist.  The neighbour across the street ( a very busy
street, mind you) was a burly Russian fellow who couldn't stand the loud car
stereos, and applauded our landlord when he cranked up the stereo in his
third floor apartment, which resulted in whatever was on the phonograph
could be heard quite clearly in the street.  Onnly one complaint resulted:
The Russian called Sheridan and asked him if he could turn the music up just
a little louder, as he was having trouble hearing it over the traffic, and
he didn't have that particular recording of Wagner.  We all got a good
laugh out of that one.

At work one day somebody in the department had their desk radio turned up a
bit, thinkign everybody else wanted to hear the song playing at the time.
(It was her favourite, so she thought it was everyone else's as well.)  I
popped in my CD of Florence Foster Jenkins and turned that up.  When there
was a protest over that "noise,"  I simply stated that if they can turn up
their noise for everyone's hearing, so can I.  The other radio got turned
down immediately (with apologies), after which I turned mine down, and
replaced Florence with some quiet Vivaldi (turned quite low).



> One day I got sick of
> the music when he decided he wanted to play his music from his stereo
> system from inside the house so it could be heard outside.
> I happened to have the 1812 Overture on my CD system (cannons and bells
> as well) and I turned it full bore and let it play through. I have not
> had any real problems with him since. I know know this is a rotten way
> to treat classical music, but it worked.
>
> Linda McCrae
> Frankston Victoria


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