Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting without deleting :)

2009-11-10 Thread Heather Stovold
Without looking at your database - I suspect that both you and your husband
are likely only entered once in the database (probably) - but that there has
ended up being 3 marriages for the 2 of you.   You need to check if you are
listed as having other marriages and if so, say to unlink people from the
extra marriages.

Now that said, as you deleted your husband, and then reentered him, you
probably don't have the 3 marriages anymore, and don't need to do that
so go to your husband's parents, select to Add child, then select add an
existing person - then select your husband to add to their family.

(note that it is always best to make a backup before you do things like
merges, or deleting someone, or anything else when you aren't sure what to
do to accomplish what you want done.)


Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Thanks Sherry - the problem is we would rather be able to sort by the DOB
column (or potentially any column shown) so that we can look for people with
the same or similar birth dates that don't have the same name.  I know if it
was a standard date field it would probably be trivial code - but I do
recognize that genealogy dates are not in a standard date field.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are exactly the
 same.

 All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a
 John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John
 Does.


 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/



Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Yes, it is more dificult I recognized that.

However - if the programmers are already doing a secondary sort on dob (the
primary sort being on Name - and Sherry from Legacy said that Legacy does
the secondary automatically when you are sorting by name for all names that
are the same) - they obviously have the code available to sort the dates
(even the non-standard ones)  so that makes it pretty trivial to this
programmer mind.


On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote:

 Heather Stovold wrote:

 Thanks Sherry - the problem is we would rather be able to sort by the DOB
 column (or potentially any column shown) so that we can look for people with
 the same or similar birth dates that don't have the same name.  I know if it
 was a standard date field it would probably be trivial code - but I do
 recognize that genealogy dates are not in a standard date field.


 And dates taken from the GRO are definitely non-standard, being entered as
 month Q year, where month is Mar or Jun or Sep or Dec. A standard can
 not be used for this since the month Q combination is shorthand for 1
 month - 2 to last day month.

 Definitely *not* a trivial exercise for the programmers :-)




Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Now, just sort the name list... (the name index) - then I don't need to know
who to select or tag beforehand.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Robert Carneal USA
carnea...@adelphia.netwrote:

 Art-

 Let me reword what I think you said--

 You want to be able to open a family file, any family file, and select
 several people. Their names may, or may not, be similar.   Then, using the
 list of people you selected or tagged, and just those people only, you want
 to sort by birthdate, perhaps oldest to youngest, or youngest to oldest.

 Have I got it?

 Thanks.

 Robert


 At 2009-10-23  03:55 PM, you wrote:

 Sherry/Support wrote:

 snip The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are
 exactly the same.

 All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a
 John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John
 Doe's.snip

 Yes Sherry, but it would be much simpler and more helpful to tag a group
 of
 ancestors and sort by DOB regardless of name variations.

 Art Seddon
 :
 :
 : Thanks for using Legacy.
 :
 : Sherry




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Heather Stovold
Besides the rotating through spouses  (and thanks, I didn't know about the
rotating through siblings!) I love the view 1/2 kids.   In Family view -
right-click on a child (any), and then from the menu that comes up, select
Vies - Show 1/2 kids.   You will now see any kids that have one parent from
the family (and a parent not in the family being viewed) - along with the
name of the other parent in brackets.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
 wrote:

 You got my personal favorites!


 Arnold Sprague wrote:

 Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

 #1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is easy
 to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking on the
 adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.

 #2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one spouse,
 it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely left-clicking on
 the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins of the Family View.

 #1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who are in
 the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each of them using
 the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or boos, as an event and
 thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the Clipboard, to all siblings
 who are in the same census.)

 Arnold Sprague



 At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

 Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I
 picked
 up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new
 users
 sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
 these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
 favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should
 drop
 everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

 Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

 Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Heather Stovold
hm - that might go down better with people if you did both at once that
is

What I really love about Legacy is.   What I don't like about Legacy
is (or I really wish Legacy could do this.   - so that people
would see both at once, and not get thinking it was a bad programmer.

As a programmer (not from Legacy) it can definately be helpful knowing what
people would like, or what they find complicated about a program, or
improvements and although there is a way to put in suggestions (which I
have) - sometimes a discussion can bring out a better way to do
something  on the other hand, I could see how a negative thread could
upset people, or could give new people the wrong impression about a great
program.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot 
br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

 PS - I'm sure those at Millennia are taking note of this thread, or at
 least
 probably already know what's on our mind (or at the very least SHOULD know
 what's on our minds.) But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new
 thread called The least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that
 in the past and a few jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect
 that
 if I didn't like it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have
 come and gone but even at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about
 posting
 a laundry list of those items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up
 one at a time and add my sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to
 test
 the waters.?



Re: [LegacyUG] Most have switched?

2009-10-19 Thread Heather Stovold
Well I, for one, had switched...  I first used a genealogy program in 1988,
and Legacy didn't exist at that point.  I was very careful about changing
programs for a lot of reasons (including a couple of bad experiences.) - but
switched to Legacy a few years ago after being recommended by a friend (and
then I read reviews etc.)

I think with a careful read, that you are correct - the person was
indicating that any genealogy program is overwhelming if it is their first
ever genealogy program - and that even making a switch can take a while to
get used to the differences.This is true in general of any computer
program.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote:

 Well that's sad. Is it really true? People only turn to Legacy after
 frustrations with other programs? I would have thought, after all these
 years, that most of us went looking for a genealogy program and chose
 Legacy, based on reviews, ads, free trials, etc.  Legacy is the only program
 I have used. I chose it about 12 years ago and found it quite intuitive,
 relative to other (non-genealogy) programs I had used. (I realize Legacy was
 simpler then.) I have to skip over all the vague references on this list to
 FTM, etc., which are meaningless to me.

 I hope you are saying that _any_ first-time genealogy program can be
 overwhelming, depending on one's general computer experience, rather than
 saying that Legacy, in particular, is overwhelming.

 I suspect that following this List can often be much more overwhelming than
 basic use of the program itself.  :-)

  Ward

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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Lost and needing help


 Mary,
 Is this the first genealogy program you have used?  I can see how it could
 be VERY overwhelming to someone who has never used a computer genealogy
 program before.  Most of us have switched from other programs (and it still
 can be a little daunting).

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Re: [LegacyUG] no name people

2009-10-08 Thread Heather Stovold
you can leave the wife as unknown   and I would personally just have the
last name for the father - no unknown, or mystery, or anything like it for
the first name.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy
 program, so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a
 family.  I have put in Mystery Mayo for the unknown father, but, since I
 don't know either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how
 to input it.  Advice?

 Jane Sarles



Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order

2009-09-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, I use EST for my estimates just using cultural norms - and I know
they can be off.  I use CAL if I've calculated the date from something like
a census, or a tombstone which basically gives me an age at a point of time
(which of course can also be way off).  I use ABT basically if someone in an
interview said something like - it was about 1920  of if I have a range
of dates from various sources (that range more than a couple of years) - and
I am picking something to put in the birth field - all the others would go
in the alt.birth fields...  and of course if I have the exact date or year,
it has nothing before it.
So far, most of my estimated dates have been fairly close (within around 5
years or so) - but I certainly look for information from a range of fields.
  It helps me keep my people straight (and stops me from merging a person
with his same-named grandfather a mistake I made decades ago in another
program and took me a while to fix)

It works well for me


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 Robert Arens wrote

 I approximate 30 years per generation, marriage at about 25, first child
 one year after marriage, a child every two years, the wife is 2 years
 younger than the husband. In some large family groups I've been off by as
 much as 40 years.




Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order (dates or no dates?)

2009-09-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Might have been me  I just reposted my system a moment ago.  I use CAL
when calculated from an age at a time ABT when an aprox date was listed
somewhere else - and EST when I am figuring out an estimated year from other
people's info and cultural norms...

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Seems like someone recently posted here (I have a stickie on this!) that
 they use abt 1820 when the year has been indicated by a source; e.g.,
 census listing.  But they use est 1820 when they're using some other
 algorithm to come up with the year; e.g., Robert's calculations.  Anything
 with abt can help research; anything with est is just a help to identify
 people in the list.
 --Paula in Texas



Re: [LegacyUG] Children Sort Order

2009-09-21 Thread Heather Stovold
Well actually - I always put in an estimated birth date - marked as an
estimate  it works well for keeping track of different people with the
same name, or for helping me know aproximately when to look for someone.
Having an estimated birthdate helped me realize that 2 people with the same
name in my database were in fact the same person.  (I checked a lot of
information around it first...)
So yes, I would love a global sort children - although I think I do have
them all sorted.

And I think that they could have a global sort-children option which leaves
alone (and brings up for review?) and families that have any children
without a birth or christening date



On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote:

 Doris wrote:

 Does anyone know if there is blanket way to perform a “sort order of
 children” for a family file as a whole? So far, I am doing it with each
 married couple with children but this way is taking too long and I keep
 missing some so this becomes a common occurrence on my potential problem
 report.


 As others have said, there isn't any global function such as you describe.

 Why would you want this? Think about it! Have you got birth and/or baptism
 dates for everyone in your file? If not, then a global sort will place those
 without dates before those that do have dates. Probably not what you're
 looking to do :-) You'd still have to go back to each family to make sure
 that the children are in the right sequence.

 --
 Best regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg.





Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

2009-09-17 Thread Heather Stovold
One thing I didn't mention if you use my method here - always make sure that
you are looking at the database you think you are in Legacy!   You want to
make changes in the file you think you are making changes.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com wrote:

 What I do, is I download the information into a DIFFERENT Legacy
 database  I include something like Research, or something like that in
 the name.  So probably something like  Research Smith FS  (a Research
 database on the Smith line that I got off of Family Search.  I can put more
 information on where I got it in something like the Research Notes.
 I use my research databases as CLUES as to what might be the information.
  When I have verified the information for a person or family from sources, I
 usually use Spit-Screen to drag the person into my main database (after
 making sure I have Cleaned the person places, etc to fit the standards I
 use to input information.)   Again - I'm only moving a person or maybe a
 family.

 Therefore, I don't have garbage cluttering my database, yet I have the
 information readily available.  And I don't have to type in everything
 either.



Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

2009-09-17 Thread Heather Stovold
What I do, is I download the information into a DIFFERENT Legacy
database  I include something like Research, or something like that in
the name.  So probably something like  Research Smith FS  (a Research
database on the Smith line that I got off of Family Search.  I can put more
information on where I got it in something like the Research Notes.
I use my research databases as CLUES as to what might be the information.
 When I have verified the information for a person or family from sources, I
usually use Spit-Screen to drag the person into my main database (after
making sure I have Cleaned the person places, etc to fit the standards I
use to input information.)   Again - I'm only moving a person or maybe a
family.

Therefore, I don't have garbage cluttering my database, yet I have the
information readily available.  And I don't have to type in everything
either.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net wrote:

 Tom,



 Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other
 day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually
 right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure
 how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since
 I don't do well with clutter in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way
 through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter
 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or
 delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit
 of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's
 research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the
 proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that
 verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy
 DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way?



 Sherry





Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views

2009-09-16 Thread Heather Stovold
I have seen this happen in my file too - and I am 95% sure I reported it,
but I might not have.  (And when I say reported it - I mean to support.)
I have a woman who had some kids illigit - and I don't know the father.
 Then she married and had a few more.  (just to make it more complicated, he
was married before and had kids before too but that doesn't affect
this.)  He died, and then a number of years later, she had another child -
and the only place a father is mentioned, it is the long-deceased
husband so it appears that he was illigit too.

I don't use people named unknown - I just let the program put in unknown.

So I have the first children linked to mom, with an auto-generated unknown
father.
Then the next children linked to her and her husband
The last child linked to mom, with a different auto-generated unknown
father.

When viewing the family with the mom and either of the unknown fathers, the
children of the other unknown father are not shown.  They all show up
correctly when viewing the family of the mom and her husband.

As I only have this situation once in my own files, and it is a family I am
working with a lot, I just remember the little bug.  To me it is more of an
annoyance than anything, as I find the show 1/2 kids as a huge bonus I had
never expected or had in any other program i have used.

These people were entered a LONG time ago, so I don't remember the order I
used to enter them or link them - but I'm not sure that matters.


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Thena Jones tsjone...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hello,

 Not all of the half-siblings appear in children's lists of the mother's 5
 Family Views. I have selected to show 1/2 kids. This is a complicated
 family and I hope I am clear about this.

 (I am using version 7.0.0.109, on Windows Vista.)

 When I bring up the mother's Spouse list and select either of the entries
 for unknown, one of the children - one of the 2 daughters - disappears
 from the children list.




Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views

2009-09-16 Thread Heather Stovold
Only if the bug bothers you.  I was just letting the original poster know
that it was not just an anomaly of their database, but that it exists
elsewhere.  I see no reason why I can't have 2 unknown fathers (auto
created) associated with the mother and kids as that was the situation.  I
have seen no other problems show up with these families - and for me it is a
minor annoyance that I would rather have then to create actual records for
the fathers.  That was a decision I made when I first noticed the problem,
and I chose not to make the records for the unknown fathers.
As a programmer (not of Legacy), I can even see how this bug would likely
have occurred in code - or in the logic used to create the list of 1/2 kids.
- It is a problem that does not bother me.  I let support know about it but
it isn't a high priority to me.

Just wanted to let the poster know that they are not alone in seeing it.

But thanks Ron, for going to the effort of recreating it and coming up with
the work around.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote:


 Heather,

 Please see my response to the OP. When there are more than one unknown
 fathers it is necessary to specifically use the name Unknown (or anything
 else) for *both* unknowns.




Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?

2009-09-10 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, as someone with a Maiden Name that starts with Mc - here is my rant.
 (ignore if you like.)
I personally always hated it when someone put a space in my name.  Drove me
crazy!   I also hated it if people got the capitalization wrong.  Even if
someone was doing all-caps, I would do that c little and I hated it when
people had it in caps.  (Hey, in typing class (back in the old days of
typewriters...) - in timed tests - I would take the time to roll the paper
to superscript the c)

So - I would personally say - never, never, never put a space in.   I don't
think that people with a name with a Mc tend to put a space in when they use
it.

That said - I don't think there is a standard



 What's the standard for entering surnames that begin with Mc.. leave
 a
 space or not?  For example, Mc Dowell or McDowell...?



Re: [LegacyUG] Merging from Split Screen

2009-08-15 Thread Heather Stovold
I don't have a lot of time to do this response, and it has been a while
since I've done drag+drop from a split file - so this is from memory.
It helps if you think of the drag and drop more as an import than a
merge  so it is asking if the person (people) that you are dragging
should keep the same RIN/MRIN's (if available) or if it should just give
them the next free new numbers.The people in the file receiving the
person (people) will not have their numbers changed.

I hope that helped a bit!

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:19 AM, MJ Harper mjohar...@comcast.net wrote:




 So I've opened split screen view.  I have my current New Creation 02 Aug
 2009 file on the left.  I have a file on the right that has info I've
 entered from an Ahnantefal

 Now, in the New Creation file, I've entered from Harry's son Anson, down
 to me.  I want now to add the Harry on back to the Anson on down.  I tried
 to drag and drop Harry as Anson's father.  But it wants to know what to do
 about the RIN and MRIN's.  I don't know what I should tell it.  How can I
 save all the RIN's and MRIN's in New Creation, and still merge with Harry
 on back?  If I say *keep original ID numbers*, which original numbers
 are kept, Anson's or Harry's?




Re: [LegacyUG] Access Table

2009-08-11 Thread Heather Stovold




 He imported from a gedcom, renumbering his MRIN's.  He wants a way to
 re-number them the way they were.




Re: [LegacyUG] Access Table

2009-08-11 Thread Heather Stovold
Sorry - I seemed to have deleted my answer while clearing out the extra
stuff.
If the Gedcom is still available - make a new file, import the gedcom,  and
don't renumber the MRIN's

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.comwrote:




 He imported from a gedcom, renumbering his MRIN's.  He wants a way to
 re-number them the way they were.




Re: [LegacyUG] Another idea on place holders, pseudonyms etc.

2009-07-20 Thread Heather Stovold
How about  Donald Duck???
Oh wait - I have a  -grandfather whose name was actually Donald Duck.
(yes, we have a Duck line,  and yes, his name was Donald Duck.  From actual
records, not just an online database.)

What is an obviously fake name might not actually be fake.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Gmail momalo...@gmail.com wrote:

 This might work for some!!!  When I have a spouse and have no idea of their
 name could be I give them a pseudonym that is obviously made up like :
 Zelda Zebra or Zion Zebra or Mickey Mouse or Minnie Mouse . . . what ever
 suits my fancy at the time.  This way, I know that the names are so



Re: [LegacyUG] Post not shown

2008-12-30 Thread Heather Stovold
Because you are using gmail.  gmail doesn't show your post to a mail group
(any) until someone has answered it.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I subscribed to the list.  Why is my post not shown?






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Re: [LegacyUG] linking siblings without parents

2008-12-22 Thread Heather Stovold
I know I had acase where I didn't know what surname to put for the father.
(the kids were sometimes under McCaslin, and sometimes under Caslin - so
I didn't know what the father used.)  - I know that I was able to create
parents that were both unknown (with creating real records) - and link all
the siblings to them.If you need me to re-figure out how I did it, let
me know.But generally I would do what everyone else said - create a
father with the surname and link the kids to him.




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Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

2008-11-29 Thread Heather Stovold
Unfortunately, it is a problem with the message server that comes up every
now and then.  It is annoying - but just delete them, and it will probably
go away soon



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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrading to Vers. 7.0

2008-11-23 Thread Heather Stovold
I'll have a go at answering your questions   congrats on your Christmas
present to yourself.

To your question about all the bugs being worked out - well, it would be
impossible to EVER say that ALL the bugs have been worked out on any
software - but I think most of the big ones have. I think there are some
reporting ones still, but don't really keep track.

For downloading - I don't think there was anything too special.  I usually
choose to download the whole thing to my computer and install from there.  I
would do a backup of all your databases BEFORE switching to V7 - just in
case.

You don't need to uninstall the previous version if you are going to install
it to the same location V6 was installed, or if you are going to use both
versions.  (There isn't generally a need to use more than one version - I
can think of a couple of reasons, but generally you wouldn't want to.)  If
you want to install V7 to a different place than V6 was - then I would
uninstall V6

When you open your existing data files in V7, they will go through a
conversion process.  It is straightforward, and has no issues that I am
aware of.  You won't be able to use that file in V6 anymore.  (Note, if you
use the Clooz program and use the same data file in Legacy and in Clooz
(linked data) - the Clooz program doesn't recognize V7 files so you
would want to make a copy of your datafile to use in Clooz before you open
the file in Legacy V7 - and then keep them seperate.   If you don't use
Clooz, then don't worry about this note)

Where you install the program is up to you - works no matter where you
install it.

Hope this helps!




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 Have waited to upgrade to Vers. 7.0 from 6.0 for some time and think I am
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 out?  Anything special I need to know about the downloading process?  Do I
 uninstall the previous version first?  Does my data automatically go into
 the new version?  Seems like I saw some exchanges about where the program
 should be located - Program files or C:  drive, which is where my current
 version is located.  Thanks for any help so I don't wind up with a problem
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to list step parents status and sealing

2008-11-22 Thread Heather Stovold
yes she has 2 sets of parents - 1) her biological father and mother, 2)her
step-father and mother.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Bernard Doddema [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 If I look at a report, it shows she has two sets of parents.  That wouldn't
 be correct, would it?



 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It also applies in this situation:  my wife was recently sealed in the
 temple to her stepfather and mother.  obviously, the stepfather is not her
 biological fatherI have her listed underneath her biological father
 (first marriage) with her other siblings.  Then for sealing purposes, I also
 added her under the stepfather (2nd marriage) and in children settings used
 stepfather.  The problem with that is it now shows that her brother and
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Re: [LegacyUG] splitting up a family tree

2008-11-04 Thread Heather Stovold
 I think Bill has a good reason tohave the databases seperate.   I do find a
smaller database CAN be less confusing, and if there isn't much interest on
the other side, and no inter-relations than it makes sense to me to keep it
seperate.  This can be especially true if husband and wife are BOTH doing
their own research and don't agree on a standard way to do things.

(ie, one person uses the 4 location standard, and puts churches and
cemetaries etc in the address screen - the other uses free-form locations
and puts addresses right in the location. etc)


If one of the children gets interested in their step-parents genealogy, it
is still available to them so I don't see that being a sad state of
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Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RIN's

2008-09-28 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, my sugestion is to keep everyone in the one legacy database file - and
then just create smaller gedcom files based on focus groups.   It seems like
a lot less work!






 Any suggestions on how to NOT duplicate numbers in two different family
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Re: [LegacyUG] County formation event

2008-07-06 Thread Heather Stovold
 Would a chronology report do?  (or can't you select to turn on the
Chronology in the individual report? - I don't have Legacy open right
now...)

I would just create a custome timeline, and include it in the Chronology
report.



   heads than I.  I wish to do a sort of individual time line, so that a
  person's individual report would print it out, but no other report would.
  I
  would like to make an event that gives county formation, with the date
 and
  the parent county, and have it appear in the individual report in its
 proper
  chronological place.  When I try to make a new event category, it will
 not
  allow me to specifiy which report it will or will not print in.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 Deluxe and Clooz 2.1

2008-07-05 Thread Heather Stovold
You need to have a seperate Legacy database and a seperate Clooz database if
you are using Legacy v7.  Clooz was setup to use a Legacy v6 database - and
the makers of Legacy changed the database for version 7.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted/Step Daughter

2008-07-02 Thread Heather Stovold
Yes, that is how it works.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:19 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perhaps I'm not looking at my file in the proper light.

 If I add my step/adopted daughter, and select 'show half-siblings' (or some 
 title close), then my daughter shows up twice in my family view,  once as my 
 daughter (even though I have set relationship to step or adopted), then she 
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Deleting Unused Locations

2008-07-02 Thread Heather Stovold
All I can think is to try running the Check/Repair of the database
then try again

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Garry Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have tried using the Options - Delete (Location) facility - it reports
 that Location is being used. Cannot delete this location, it is being used.
 Would you like to view the records that use it? Yes/No. Clicking on Yes, I
 get the message No records were found to use this location. Weird!!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Followup to Discussion about Periods after Initials.

2008-06-30 Thread Heather Stovold
I would expect that they would exclude Harry S Truman, and similarily
named people from finding that potential error - same as I have to
exclude my ancestor that married someone with the same last name.
That is why Legacy is flexible!

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Gary Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As in the case of: Harry S Truman.  His whole middle name was S , not an
 abbreviation.  Should his family simply add a period arbitrarily, as needed,
 so as to not upset the software?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Heather Stovold
Put the street address in the description of the residence event, and
the city/town, county, etc in the Place field.   It doesn't increase
your location list, and is shown correctly in the sentace created by
Legacy by default.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Elizabeth Cunningham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But when I enter residence as an event, the place shows up in the Location
 list.  How else can I show a grandfather who moved every year and  had his
 first 4 children in 4 different towns if I don't use residence as an
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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring backups from v4, v5, v6 now using v7

2008-06-28 Thread Heather Stovold
That is a question that can only be answered by the programmers, or
someone that has done it.

I'd suggest that you get a v4 backup, and try opening it (in a new
database) in v7 and see what happens.   Either way you will have your
answer.

As a programmer (by trade - not of Legacy), I can say that it
basically depends on if they have left in the database conversion code
for all the versions, in case someone upgrades from a really old
version.

If it doesn't work - then contact them, they may have a utility they
can use to update it for you.



On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Tracy Skegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Listers

 I didn't always keep the scraps of paper I wrote down information from
 conversations with family members, I have changed my ways now.  So
 without printouts or other more accessible electronic versions of my
 file that list my sources, I thought of restoring some of the backups
 I've kept.

 I've been entering data and backing up since v4, I didn't always
 upgrade my backups to the next version or create periodic gedcoms as I
 upgraded through the latest versions.  Had I created gedcoms I could
 now just view them through GENViewer or GenMatcher, reports with
 sources would have helped me out now too, but back then I didn't do
 what I do now.

 I want to now get to the older backups and check some of my sourcing
 and information.  Will I have to load v5 and restore v4 backups into
 it?  Then load v6 and restore v5 backups into it?  I've always kept a
 copy of the full download (not upgrade) of each version as it becomes
 available, so I could load them again.  I'd just like to know if I
 will need to?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Heather Stovold
Probably - I haven't really tried the mapping yet.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Mary Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/28/08, Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Put the street address in the description of the residence event, and
  the city/town, county, etc in the Place field.
 If you do that, it's my understanding you can only map to the town
 itself, not the exact street address(es).  Or am I wrong??
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Re: [LegacyUG] More basic questions

2008-06-27 Thread Heather Stovold
1 - If you are using the 4 place level convention, then yes, if you
only know the state you would put in the extra commas..., ,
Indiana, USA.But it is up to you if you are going to do it that
way or not.  Just be consistant.   (btw, I do use the 4 levels like
that)

2. -  It does depend a lot on the event on if there is a big
difference from the Description field or Notes.   For the most part, I
would use the Description field.   For instance, using the Description
field for the Religion event, you get a sentance (shown at the bottom
of the event screen, and in various reports) that says He was
Anglican from 1841 to 1856.   If I put Anglican in the notes the
sentance would say He had a religion from 1841 to 1856. Anglican.
For the Census event, it looks like the description field is for the
name of the census - I don't use it, but just tried filling it in.
With the description blank it says He appeared on the census
in..  If I put in, say Canadian - it says He appeared on the
Canadian census in...

I generally only use the event notes to put in something unusual to
note.For instance, I have someone that was partially listed in a
sentance, and then crossed out and another family member put in the
same line.   So, in the notes of the event, I commented on that.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Firstly, let me express much gratitude to the very helpful answers that have
 appeared from so many of you.  It is really something to have such great
 help available.

 I am trying to batch my newbie questions so as not to clutter up the list
 too badly.

 1.  This is the reverse of my first Place question.  If one does not know
 the name of the town, or perhaps, even the name of the County, but only the
 state, do I understand from the demo tour that is should be put in by using
 commas thusly, , Indiana, USA?  Will that serve to make my Master Place
 list all in good order?

 2.  In the Event screen, I do not understand the distinction between
 description and notes.  For instance, if the event is a census listing, the
 Event is Census, the Description would also be Census, and I guess the
 note would be the information contained in the census listing.  Or would the
 Description be the information contained in the census listing?  The
 Description and the Notes seem to me to be redundant.

 3.  In my practice set, I have Helen Holloway dying in Shelbyville, Shelby
 County, Kentucky, USA.  I have put in the place, but wish to add the
 hospital.  However, when I click on the plus sign after the place space,
 nothing happens - no other screen opens up.  How do I put the address in?

 I am saving all the answers to my questions in a folder on my email titled
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Re: [LegacyUG] English counties

2008-06-26 Thread Heather Stovold
No Ron, I am not suggesting that.  The information would be filled in
by the user.   Basically, I get tired of always having to think when I
enter a place on what it was called at the time.   I use the smae
locations a lot, but I always have to sit and think - especially if
I've been working in another area for a while.   (example of my
thoughts  ok - this is in Medicine Hat, Alberta - but wait, it
wasn't Alberta until 1905, before that it was NWT  oh - this birth
was IN 1905 - was that before or after it became a province - I better
go check online (or in my chronology screen, if I have it in a
timeline)).   Sure - I would need to do the research the first time -
but if I put it all in for the locations I use, then I wouldn't have
to check, and check, and check...For Ontario, I am doing a lot of
stuff in around the years that it kept changing, and I can NEVER
remember (was it Upper Canada first, or Canada West first) - I just
get sick of always having to look it up.

So - just the short answer - I'd expect the users to be putting in the
information as it comes up - but the program can check, if you have
indicated that a physical location had more than one name at various
dates


On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:08 AM, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Heather,

 Please clarify. I do hope you are not suggesting that Legacy should 
 produce/include every change in a location throughout time and the world. I 
 suspect that I might need a mainframe!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator

2008-06-26 Thread Heather Stovold
Feb 30th was a real date in a couple of coutries at a couple of
specific times..   there is a chance it was one of those

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/february-30.html

Probably in Legacy (to make this on topic) you would have to turn off
the date check on these instances, and make good notes for people.



On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:26 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
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 I was only reporting an unresolvable error, not
 judging his lifestyle, or sobriety.
 Rich in LA CA
 --- ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Go on, Rich he'd probably had a few pints may even a
 2 day session!


 Ron Ferguson

  Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:40:27 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  I have a church record that the priest had done
  baptisms on February 30, then the next day was
 March
  1. He obviously thought the whole day that year
 had
  extra days in February. So if he ever found his
  mistake, he did not tell anyone?
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Re: [LegacyUG] More very very newbie questions

2008-06-25 Thread Heather Stovold
For the Event - what goes into description question - it depends on the
event  for a residence event, I put in the street address (if I have it)
- the city etc goes in location.   for the religion event, I put in the name
of the religion (ie, Catholic, or Anglican, etc).   I only use the note
field for something different or unusual.

For the cause of death - it is the Medical notes

hope this helps

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 1. Can I do a find and replace for places?  For instance, in the past I
 have used Co. for County and abbreviations for states.  I would like to
 change to spelling out the county and state   Is there a feature that will
 allow me to do that globally?

 2. On the Event Screen, what kind of information goes into description.
  The note itself goes into the box below, and the type of note is enter in
 the event box.
 3.  Where would be the place to add township, which one would know in only
 some cases?  If township is put in only when it is known, wouldn't it affect
 the order of the master place list?

 4.  Where does one go to put in  cause of death?

 Sorry to ask so many basic questions.  I know the answers will be in the
 material sent with the Deluxe version, but I am still trying to evaluate how
 much difficulty I will encounter.

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Re: [LegacyUG] English counties

2008-06-25 Thread Heather Stovold
A suggestion I put in (during but near the end of V6) would address
this   I'd like to be able to setup a customized timeline of place
locations.  This would be something that the genealogist would do for
locations, not a database that would be done by a companyBasically
for a location, you could setup start and end dates for a name, including
the current name

So - for my all favorite location (ok, the main place I'm doing research
right now...)

1791-1841 Etobicoke, York, Upper Canada, British North
America
1841-1 Jul 1867 Etobicoke, York, Canada West, British North America
1 Jul 1867 - Present   Etobicoke, York, Ontario, Canada

What I suggested, is with that info, if I used the place with a date, it
could (with my permission?) correct the name if I put in the wrong one...
it might be fun logic - but would be very helpful!

With mapping, it could put in the current place name for the search









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wrote:

 This is actually a worldwide problem. I use the choice
 'location on date of document' instead of 'current
 location name'. I have this in USA, France, Norway,
 Sweden, England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Germany. It
 takes diligence to maintain.
 Rich in LA CA
  --- Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How do genealogists handle the English counties
  where the county lines have been redrawn and towns
  have been moved from one county to another, so that
  you have a record (census, birth, etc.) showing one
  county name and VE don't find it because it is now
  in another?
 
  I guess one way would be to use the name on the
  record, locate the town and move the pin regardless
  of present day county lines?
 
  Art Seddon,
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Re: [LegacyUG] English counties

2008-06-25 Thread Heather Stovold
Yes, I'm aware of making timelines for Chronological views, and have
made a couple that were sent (by request) to Legacy.  I have used it a
lot.

But my request has a lot more potential other than just showing the
changes on a printout or screen (and only if the right one turned
on...)

Imagine entering in a new person, born in Etobicoke in 1843.  You
enter in the Birth information as  1843  Etobicoke, York, Ontario,
Canada - and then a box comes up and says something like  According
to the information you have previously entered, this location was
Etobicoke, York, Canada West, British North America on the date 1843.
Change location to match?I hate always having to look up when a
location changed.

Also - this requested feature would allow the mapping to work, by
using the current name for the mapping feature.

Much more useful than just seeing it in a chronology.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:54 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have the Deluxe edition, the Chronology view is
 the place to do it. I have input the boundary changes
 under a grouping for each state or province. Here is
 an example of what I have done. I input the county
 info for my family, but this quick work all happened
 before birth.
 Good luck
 Rich in LA CA

 Life Range: 30 Jul 1849 - 14 Apr 1915
 Age:-38
 1811~Wayne County, IN created from Dearborn, Clark
 and St. Clair, succeeding Wayne County, NWT.:
 -38
 1811~Franklin County IN created from Dearborn and
 Clark.: -36
 1813~Madison County IN created from Delaware New
 Purchase.: -35
 1814~Switzerland County IN created from Dearborn and
 Jefferson.: -33
 1816~Indiana becomes a state.:
 30 Jul 1849 Birth:  United States, Indiana, Shelby
 County.
 You will find many uses for this tool.
 Rich in LA CA


 --- Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  A suggestion I put in (during but near the end of
  V6) would address
  this   I'd like to be able to setup a customized
  timeline of place
  locations.  This would be something that the
  genealogist would do for
  locations, not a database that would be done by a
  companyBasically
  for a location, you could setup start and end dates
  for a name, including
  the current name
 
  So - for my all favorite location (ok, the main
  place I'm doing research
  right now...)
 
  1791-1841 Etobicoke, York, Upper
  Canada, British North
  America
  1841-1 Jul 1867 Etobicoke, York, Canada
  West, British North America
  1 Jul 1867 - Present   Etobicoke, York, Ontario,
  Canada
 
  What I suggested, is with that info, if I used the
  place with a date, it
  could (with my permission?) correct the name if I
  put in the wrong one...
  it might be fun logic - but would be very helpful!
 
  With mapping, it could put in the current place name
  for the search
 
 
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] best practice for information collaboration

2008-06-08 Thread Heather Stovold
Just one note - I haven't used intellishare - so not sure how that will work
out with this

One area I've found problems in general with sharing information between
people is if someone is deleted, or changes like that.   say my mom (or
person I'm sharing data with) discovered that someone wasn't a member of a
family they had been put into  so they discover that John Brown wasn't a
child of Mary and Roger Brown - and so she deletes himwhen I do a
merge of her data - I still have John Brown in my database, and don't know
to delete him.




On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:30 PM, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the meantime you can still use Merge on the two files if you can get
 them together on the same computer, and assuming they're both Legacy files.
  If not, get the other one as a gedcom, import it into Legacy so it is
 another Legacy file.  Then do a Merge on them.  Once you get the hang of
 that, it works really well.
 --
 JL
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

  Susan Daily wrote:

 Paul, there is something called intellishare - you can read the Help
 file to learn a little more about it. I've never used it, so can't
 give the step by steps to take. You might search the archives for
 intellishare also to see what the regular users of it have to say.

 Here is part of the Help file:
 After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group
 return a copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and
 reconciliation.
 The Keeper then follows this procedure:
 Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after
 making a backup of course).
 Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.
 From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and
 choose the IntelliShare option. ...

 I think it would help you with your issue.

 Susan D.

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Paul Maclauchlan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 I have been encouraging a relative of mine to add family stories and
 memories to the notes section of her database.  She has also been in
 touch
 with other members of the family to get exact date and place information.

 We both started from the same database at a known time in the past.  I
 have
 a copy of that file.  Since that time I have made additions and changes
 to
 my copy and she has made additions and changes to hers.  Now I would like
 to
 transfer the changes she has made in her database into my own.

 How can I identify these changes?  What is the best way to manage the
 information?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 with Clooz

2008-06-04 Thread Heather Stovold
I don't have Legacy 7 yet - but the Author of Clooz, on the Clooz user
group, has said that it will not interface with Legacy 7 because of the
change in the Legacy database.

SO - if you are using Legacy 6 and Clooz integrated together (using the same
database for both) - you will want to copy the Legacy 6 version of your
family files BEFORE opening it with Legacy 7 - and use the copy in clooz.
You will have to update them seperately, like you would have in version 1 of
Clooz, or like people using clooz eith a different genealogy program




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 Now that Legacy 7 is out and about, has anyone tried to interface it with
 Clooz 2?  It worked with Legacy 6, but I don't know about the new version.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Calculating Relationships

2008-05-25 Thread Heather Stovold
Actually, although I've used Legacy for quite a while, I've only used the
actual Relationship Calculator 1 or 2 times - so I had to have a look at it
to figure it out.

I have to admit that the information probably isn't presented in the
clearest fasion  I was able to figure it out quickly because I know how
most relationship calculators work   I'd have to think a bit on how I'd
want to see it improved.




On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Brian Lightfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Thanks Heather for going through the steps to figure out what I was
 saying. And you have stated it exactly.



 I guess what I'm trying to bring to light is that these additional
 relationships are not easily discerned; those experienced uses of Legacy can
 look at the information presented and tell what is up but it is not obvious
 to the un-initiated.





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Re: [LegacyUG] no problems yet...evertthing is great...yea 7!

2008-05-25 Thread Heather Stovold
And Manuals take a LOT longer to create, especially hard copy ones - because
of the printing times  so manuals are often completed before the
software is, so there is time to print them

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  The only real problem with Legacy version 7
  is that feature(s) are included in the user
  manual which haven't yet been implemented.
  Too bad they didn't wait to put the manual out
  until all the planned features were workable.

 Then you would have people bitching and moaning that there was no manual!
  It's a no-win situation.

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pre-Confederation Quebec/Canadian Place Names

2008-05-25 Thread Heather Stovold
Well actually, I'd have to double check if I actually DO use BNA in the
short location.   but of course, that is the problem of using
abbreviations/initials  for anything!  :) One reason why I rarely use
them in genealogy.   (ie, in my long names, I use United States. in the
short names I DO use USA - but I spell out all the provinces and states in
both)

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Using BNA for short location names could be confusing.. BNA is the
 Airport code for Nashville, Tennessee. *grin*




  - Original Message 
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:54:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pre-Confederation Quebec/Canadian Place Names

 For Ontario, I've been using (for example)

 Etobicoke, York, Canada West, British North America

 or

 Etobicoke, York, Upper Canada, British North America

 I use BNA for the short location names..



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Re: [LegacyUG] Calculating Relationships

2008-05-24 Thread Heather Stovold
Ok, I brought up a case of 1st cousins marrying in the Relationship
Calculator to see if I can figure out what you are saying/asking

With my file, I have a John Smart and a Mary Smart who married who are 1st
cousins.  We have a few generations back in the file as well.

In the relationship calendar, I see 3 main zones.   The top area shows
that with the information I have in my file, John and Mary are related in 4
different ways.   (there are 4 lines of information...)  On each line of
info - to the left, it lists the common ancestor(s).  To the right, it lists
the relationship of John and Mary to EACH OTHER (not the ancestor) when you
calculate it from the listed common ancestor.The information is ordered
from the most close relationship to the furthest.

So - for the first line of information - on the right it says that John and
Mary are Husband (/Wife).  They are listed as the common ancestor, because
that is how they are related...

On the 2nd line of information - to the right - it says that John and Mary
are 1st Cousins.  Their grandparents (who are the same people) are the
common ancestors listed.

On the 3rd line of information - to the right - it says that John and Mary
are 2nd Cousins.  Their great-grandparents (who are the same people) are the
common ancestors listed.

On the 4th line of information - to the right - it says that they are 3rd
Cousins.  Their gg-grandparents are the common ancestors.

As I get further back on this line, they will be cousins to each other in
further and further degrees.  For cousins, this is normal.

The middle area shows how each person is descended from the common ancestor
for the relationship you have selected in the top area.

The bottom area is to select for whom you wish to find the relationships.

I hope that clarified it a bit




On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Brian Lightfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 After spending a great deal of time between the Relationship Calculator
 Help
 file and trying out various instances of intermarriage, I see that Legacy
 may have the information there but it is not obvious as to what the true
 meaning is. This takes a little explanation.

 For example, in my case of 2nd cousins being married, using the
 Relationship
 Calculator Legacy is insistent on showing the relationship as husband or
 wife, as if that weren't obvious given the fact that the user would have
 entered their names onto the family view pages as husband and wife.

 What the user would need to do when exploring relationships from
 intermarriages would be to ignore/bypass the supposed result window
 entitled
 Relationship after clicking on the Calculate Relationships button, and
 then view the list of Common Ancestors that may appear below it.
 Strangely, this list of common ancestors will start off showing the name of
 the husband and wife once again. What purpose that redundancy serves is
 beyond me. I believe that the names of the next set of common ancestors
 will
 give the additional relationship of the husband and wife.

 OK, a little humility is needed here. I am no expert at doing these
 calculations in my head and quite frankly I cannot come up with something
 like 7th grand uncle three times removed without using a computer. So my
 first viewing of these Common Ancestors when calculating the
 relationships
 of known cousins that married had me very perplexed as to the meaning of
 why
 the names of these common ancestors were being shown. At first I thought it
 meant that each spouse was related to the common ancestor with the
 relationship as shown. But apparently Legacy means that this relationship
 that is shown for the common ancestor is an additional relationship between
 the husband and wife. In my example of the married second cousins, the
 first
 set of common ancestors (after the redundant listing of the husband and
 wife
 again) shows 2nd cousin.

 Here is where I may have misunderstood things. At first, I thought that
 this
 designation meant ONLY that each spouse was related to those shown as the
 common ancestor as being their 2nd cousin. I'm no expert on the infinite
 relationship possibilities but I thought it entirely possible that a
 husband
 and wife could both be 2nd cousins to other people without being 2nd
 cousins
 to each other. Maybe that's wrong and if a husband and wife are both 2nd
 cousins to other people then they MUST be 2nd cousins to each other. If
 that's the case, then Legacy has the correct answer -- not necessarily
 clear
 to us humans, but nonetheless the correct answer.

 Why can't there be something as simple as stating they (the husband and
 wife) were 2nd cousins? How does FTM manage to make it so simple?

 Just to complicate my one particular example of married 2nd cousins, Legacy
 shows a next set of common ancestors as 3rd cousins. I'm not sure if this
 occurs in all cases of married cousins or if it means their first set of
 common ancestors were also married cousins. Wow, interesting.

 

Re: [LegacyUG] Pre-Confederation Quebec/Canadian Place Names

2008-05-24 Thread Heather Stovold
For Ontario, I've been using (for example)

Etobicoke, York, Canada West, British North America

or

Etobicoke, York, Upper Canada, British North America

I use BNA for the short location names..




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[LegacyUG] One question on v7 coming

2008-05-13 Thread Heather Stovold
 Just so I can make my plans on things...

Do our data files go through a version change when we upgrade to v7?   That
is, did the structure of the database change?   (I'm pretty sure it will
have, with the expected changes.)

To put it another way - can a person with v6 use a database that has been
created or edited with v7?

Thanks for letting me know either way!




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Re: [LegacyUG]

2008-05-07 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, I have seen you ask this about 3 times today, with no response.  I had
a look, and off-hand couldn't find a way, so I'm assuming no one else does
either




On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Jay S. Van Zeeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am trying to map the emigrants to a Google map of Europe and I am hoping
 that someone can help me with a  search to show me the immigrants. I
 thought
 that a search for someone with a born location that doesn't contain USA
 and their death location does contain USA, but I cannot get a does not
 contain field in the search.

 As an alternative, in those that I do have immigration dates I have an
 event
 called immigration. This, however, will not give me all immigrants as
 some
 of these are hard to find their arrival. I have family immigrants as early
 as 1630.

 I have been unable to create a search string that will give me what I
 want.

 Does anyone have an idea?

 Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] I received 35 messages about subscribe unsubscribe

2008-05-07 Thread Heather Stovold
You are on - there has appeared a bug or something today - everyone is
getting notices   I have had well over 60 - for some reason the number
is varying for various people.   It only started today

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Darlene  Don Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I unsubscribed for 10 days due to a death in my family, airline flights,
 etc. and subscribed, again, May 2nd and was getting messages just fine, and
 when I logged on this morning I received over 35 messages saying I was
 either subscribed or unsubscribed, and the last one said that I could not
 post to the list!  I am checking to see if this e-mail goes through!  The
 last e-mail I got was around 2 AM today!  I did check the archives and there
 was a couple e-mails for today listed.  Help!  I want to be on this list!

 Sincerely,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes

2008-05-07 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, this isn't a big help for you for fixing it automatically - but I do
have a couple of suggestions for the future

I believe that you can set up the default value for the Living Flag - you
can change it to No so that future entries are more likely to be
correct.   of course, if you put in any more people that are alive you
need to remember to change them.  That might be a problem in the future if
you forget, and you post stuff on a website or something...

The other thing I recommend, which would have let you use the Advanced set
living   I have found it very useful to give everyone an estimated
birth-date if I don't have a birth date for them.  It helps me keep people
straight.   I put the year in after EST so I know it is just my estimate.
( EST 1867) for instance.(I also use CAL for dates I have calculated
from an age and year, and ABT if someone has given me an aprox date)
Anyway, with the estimated dates, the Advanced Set Living works well.

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Keith Bage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm afraid I've historically not been very good at maintaining the
 Living flag in Legacy and drastically need to tidy this up. Does anyone
 have a quick way of doing this? I am aware of the Advanced set living
 function BUT this is only any good if I have a date of death. The main
 problem for me is that I have many instances where all I have is a name with
 no dates. These may be many generations back but I don't know of a way to
 identify these as being beyond by 120 year living flag default.



 Any help appreciated.





 Keith Bage

 BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

2008-05-07 Thread Heather Stovold
I put them in the one area - and in the source text I put in the info I got
from that source.   I realize that if I don't have it print the source text,
it isn't clear what info I got where.I have to admit that I'd prefer the
date/place to be seperately sourced at times  mainly for the main vital
events.



On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Keith Bage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How do others handle the situation where you have one piece of info from
 one source and one from another that combine into one field. I'm not
 explaining this well so let me give an example.



 I have a death date from source #1.

 I have a death location from source #2.

 If I allocate a source to the death date (source 1)the date AND location
 are highlighted to indicate they are from the same source. If I then add
 source 2 that appears to relate to the date as well as the location.



 So, can I combine the date  location OR should they be in separate
 events i.e alt.death



 Appologies for the explanation (it's late).



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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeated emails.

2008-05-06 Thread Heather Stovold
Got them too - they all say they were sent at pretty much the same time
(early morning here) - so they might not have realized it was
happening

I'm sure it was just a glitch - but I feel for those with limited
bandwidth!

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wrote:

 I'm afraid that this is off topic. My apologies, but I am desperate  I
 have tried to contact the List Owner but to no avail. I have received about
 30 identical emails, stating that I have been subscribed. I have been
 subscribed for years! I cannot stop them coming. Perhaps someone will read
 this and advise me.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Compiling single database from 3 separate Legacy files

2008-05-06 Thread Heather Stovold
Assuming you want to bring in everything in the files - you want to do a
File - Import - From: Legacy File

You will want to do this for each file you want to bring in.   Keep a backup
of your destination database from before the import  You will then
want to do a Merge to combine people that were in more than one file.

I think you can setup for the import to start at a certain RIN (above
already used) - some people do this to help with the merge, because then
they know which file it came from

I use the drag and drop for a person or a family - but for a whole database,
the import would be the way to go.

Hope this helps!

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Barrie Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've searched the Help section, and can see where GEDCOMM file compilation
 is covered, but my need has to do with including people from 3 Legacy files
 into a single major file.

 I have my family details in one file, and now want to add components of my
 wife's family(families) to my database.

 I understand Split Screen, and have opened 2 files side-by-side and have
 familiarised myself with the mechanics.

 Here's what I'd like to do:

 Access my wife's mother's side of the her family, and copy that
 information to my wife's entry in my DB.

 Can I Import (copy?) the whole branch in one action? She has family back
 to 1645 on her mother's side, and that's a lot of individual copying. Better
 if I could bring them in en masse.

 I assume I could then save the composite file with another name, and make
 that the file I'll work on from then on.

 I've got backups galore, so can afford to try all options. Any help/advice
 gladly received. And TIA to anyone who posts.

 --
 Regards






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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging family files, advantages/disadvantages

2008-05-04 Thread Heather Stovold
I also use my oldest child.

In Legacy, you can have many of the screens show, at all times, the
relationship to a person in the database.  Most people would choose
themselves.   Then most of the time, they can see at a glance how the
person/people they are editing is related to them.   That is why you would
pick a particular person.  (Note that this feature is different from the
Relationship Calculator, where you can pick any 2 people and find out how,
if at all, they are related, including multiple relationships.)

I use my oldest child so that I can see relationships displayed for my lines
AND my husband's lines.

Also note that you can also set up to use the standard ancestor colours
for the 4 gg-parent lines.  I also set that to my oldest child so that it
matches with the relationships.These are also displayed on many screens,
and can be used (optionally) on many reports.

Hope this clarifies a bit!




   I note you mention using your oldest child as  a starting point for
 relationship calculation, somone else mentioned that also. What is the
 reason for that, why pick a particular person?
 
  Colin.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Blood Groups

2008-04-29 Thread Heather Stovold
If it tends to run in the male lines only, I think some of the new
Legacy-Chart DNA charts will at least make it easier to figure out who might
have the gene...

I know there are programs out there as well that are specific for genetic
tracking of diseases they are similar to genealogy programs, but have
specialized charts  with symbols to show who has the disease, who is
likely a carrier, etc.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Transcriptions/originals

2008-04-27 Thread Heather Stovold
I would keep both sources (and I do)

I have sources along the lines of

Census - Transcription - 1881 - Ontario, York West
Census - Index - 1881 - Ontario, York West
Census - Image - 1881 - Ontario, York West
Census - Film - 1881 - Ontario York West

I would use up to all 4, depending on what I have used.   (These are
examples, I don't have all 4 of these for this census)

For the 1881 Census, I use an online index a lot.  It is ALMOST a
transcription - but doesn't have a couple of the columns, which has been
important.  (for instance, I had a person that was obviously in some sort of
institution or hospital, as the household in the index had a few hundred
people, and the head of the household was a doctor.   From the film, I found
he was in an asylum.)The Canadian 1871 census only has strays and head
of the house - so it is important to note that it was in an index.

Transcriptions are that - someone's interpretation of what it said

Image - This source is a digital image of the census books.   - For me, it
can make a big difference where that came from.  For the Canadian 1851
census, there is a site with a transcription and the images - but they only
did 1 page of the 4 pages for each household!   The 2nd page has very
important info, and the other 2 pages are almost always blank - but could be
important if not But the archives site has images (no transcription
or search) of all the pages..

Film - I actually went to a library to look at the actual film.

Each one, although in theory should have the same info, can have different
info, and I want to know

a) which ones did I actually look at
b) exactly which info did I get from each

when I'm looking at my data - so I use ALL sources that I used for ALL the
info I find in each one.  Sure, most of the time, it is the same - but at
least I know where I got the info.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Numbers

2008-04-22 Thread Heather Stovold
 Just wanted to totally agree here - the RIN numbers are mostly for Legacy
to use to track different people, and to link people together, and can be
ignored.   They are viewable because a lot of people use them for their own
purposes as well.

Just wanted to add that if you are mostly using the Ahnentafel numbers to
help you recognize and figure out direct relationships to your main person,
you may be interested to find out that you can set Legacy up on a lot of
screens to show how each person is related to a person that you setup.






 on, regardless of how they are related to each other.  For Legacy
 purposes, each person needs to have a RIN (to link the various parts
 of the database together), but you can safely ignore it.

 If you wish to show the Ahnentafel numbers on screen regularly, you
 can include it in the User ID field for each individual (I'm not aware





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Re: [LegacyUG] Blank Screens

2008-04-16 Thread Heather Stovold
Not sure if this will help, as I certainly haven't had this problem
but I would backup your file, and then do a File Maintenance and Check to
see if there is some sort of problem with your family file

As there was data loss, I would also contact customer support (which is one
of the reasons I said to make a backup - they may want to look at your file
as close to the data loss as possible).  I had a problem that I contacted
customer support, and they were fantastic!

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, Rich --

 I've made some very creative mistakes, and someday this will probably be
 one of them.  But not this time.  :-D

 Thanks!

 Kris





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Re: [LegacyUG] Curious why: difference between contains and equal to

2008-04-16 Thread Heather Stovold
Equal to means that the field has the EXACT same item

Contains means that the field has that item, but may have more


For instance,  if you are searching on Name for   Heather

Equal to would find any records that the person's name was Heather, and no
other ones

Contains would find records were the person's name was Heather Kay,
Heather Marie, and Donna Heather


Does that help a bit?



On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Pat Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I set up my search equation to find all parties in the database
 that (1) do not have a birth date OR (2) do not have a death date
 and in the How to look I first chose contains and in the
 What to look for I left blank, but that didn't accomplish what
 I wanted.  I went back to the search equation and chose Equal
 to leaving everything else the same and that worked.  Now I'm
 curious why; it would seem that, at least in this case, both mean
 the same.






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Re: [LegacyUG] saving file, etc

2008-04-14 Thread Heather Stovold
Did the data also change, or just the way you have the screens setup to view
the data?

I'm pretty sure that stuff like the columns you are viewing in Index View,
and other screen configuration changes are global, not dependant on what
database (or family file) you are looking at.   They are stored in .usr
files to indicate your user settings.




On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Pat Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cathy, Sherry, Ron and Jenny:

 I first copied the original file using the save as, then made the changes
 to the new file.  When I went back to see the original file, it too had
 changed to match the new file (easy to tell the change as the original file
 had several more columns in the index view than the new file did; after
 deleting those columns in the new file and then going back to look at the
 original file, those columns were missing in the original file as well.)

 I asked Sherry for help and am eagerly awaiting what she can come up with.

 BTW, I'm using the latest updated version 6.






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Re: [LegacyUG] How to Source...

2008-04-13 Thread Heather Stovold
I have 2 sources - Personal Knowledge of [my full name, including maiden
name]  and Personal Knowledge of [my husband's full name].   I used them for
sources on things that we know first-hand  like occupation, marriage
date (I also have the marriage certificate sourced), community service, etc.

For stuff that other people know - like my mom or dad, or whoever - I have
Interview sources - so that I can record that they told me something




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Re: [LegacyUG] Census vs Residence Events

2008-04-13 Thread Heather Stovold
At the moment, I think you are confusing an Event with a Source.   There are
a few things (like a census) which can sort-of be both - but residence isn't
one of them.

On each person in your family, you want to go to the place to edit each
individual, and say Add and then choose Residence.

For the Description, you can put in the Address (I don't put City, etc
there)
Date you put in the date range
Location: Here is where I put City, Province/State, etc

Then, while still in the edit event box - you can click on the little icon
with all the books to add the source.   No idea what the Evidence book would
say - but for personal knowledge stuff, I have a Master Source with the
Title Personal Knowledge of [my full name].  I don't have many fields
filled in, probably me as an author and that is about it.In the source
details, I would put in the date I recorded this in my database, my own
surety level (which CAN vary), and possibly some comments on how I know
it.

If the event is the same for several people, you can copy the whole event to
the clipboard (there is a little clipboard icon in the event screen/box) -
copy it, and then paste for each person.  It will even copy the source for
you!

Hope that helped!



On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mary Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 New to research. Have Eliz. Shown Mills Evidence! Book in hand. Have
 listened to Geoff's CDs. Don't understand exactly what to enter as a
 Master
 Source List Name when it comes to residences, as queried by Keith.
 Starting
 with myself (I am part of a large family, so I could use this master
 source
 for all my family), what do I put as the Source List Name -- the address?
 Then the Type, what do I put when it's only personal knowledge and no
 records exist? (military moves, every 24 months!) That would make the
 Author me or perhaps my parents giving me what they recall, right? No
 Title exists, so do I leave that blank?
   Just need a jump start, please, and I'm off and running.
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Re: [LegacyUG] maiden or married name - suggestions please

2008-04-09 Thread Heather Stovold
When I don't know, I leave the main surname blank, and put Alice as the
name  and I do an AKA with the full name, and source the AKA.  I'd put
in the notes (of the source, and maybe also the person's main notes) that I
don't know if it is a married or maiden name.   - usually I know from the
relationships though

I'm sure you will get a lot of different answers!



On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Valerie Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am wondering how people treat a death/burial of eg 1850 CULLODEN Alice,
 India Records, Bengal Presidency, Vol 77 f 189.

 I know how to put these references in to the source list but I am wanting
 suggestions about the fact that I do not know if Alice is her maiden name
 or
 her married name ?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Cremation and Burial

2008-04-06 Thread Heather Stovold
I put the burial info in the Burial field, and used a Cremation even for the
cremation info.  Mind you, it was the same dates for my relative




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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

2008-04-03 Thread Heather Stovold
No problem from me Joseph - I wasn't exactly sure of the tone of your
message, although the caps on the one word did make it sound like you might
have been using a not-so-nice tone I tried not to take it that
way

Although I haven't had any of your other questions come up in my own
genealogy (but I did know a rape victim who became pregnant through the
rape) - here is how I would probably handle the issues in Legacy

1) Test-tube or Doner babies.

Mother would have all her info of course.   I'd either use the default
Unknown father, or add a father named something thrilling like Sperm
Doner and of course boxes like This couple never married checked off
etc   I think I'd lean towards the Unknown father, and having
appropriate comments in the notes

2) Surragate Mother

There would be a few variations on this because there are variations of
surragate mothers  There are 4 variations I can think of   1 - Sperm
and Egg from the couple that are the parents  2) Sperm from a doner, Egg
from the mother that will be the parent   3) Sperm from the father that will
be the parent, Egg from a doner, or the surragate mother (that might be 2
variations I guess) and 4) Sperm and Egg from a doner (once again, a
sub-variation is the Egg is from the surragate mother)

Basically, I would have the child linked to the parents that are raising the
child.  Probably everything else about it in notes, that could be
private.If the genetics of it is important, you could also link the
child with other parents to reflect the origin of the sperm and egg
(whichever) - and the child status setupIf really important to you,
you could also add a link to the surragate mother as a parent, with the
child status setup. But again, for the most part I would personally
just have the 1 parent link (to the parents raising the child), and the
other stuff in notes.

3) Rape Victim Child

This is a tough one because of the sensitivity of the whole thing.   I would
have the mother's info, and the father set to the default unknown, with the
stuff in notes, possible to be made private.   The big problem of course is
if the Rape information is made private (and assuming the people are all
alive), it makes it look like the victim doesn't know who the father was
because of her morals instead of the actual circumstances but at the
same time, if you put the Rape info so all can see, well that is a hard
thing to be reminded of or told to just anyone too.   Of course, someone in
this position already has to deal with the circumstances anyway.

4) Clone  (I know you didn't mention it, but someone else did)

Well, as there isn't a human clone yet, it is all academic  I think in
theory the parents are the parents of the original person who was
cloned. but some people might say there is 1 parent - the original
person.In any case, hopefully I won't have to deal with this question!



On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Heather, this brings up another aspect of charting children.  Consider, a
 woman has a test tube baby by an unknown father (donor)   How does one
 do that one??   ...Serugate mothers (is that the same)?  Rape victims who
 get pregnant by an unknown assailant??

 This is getting rather interesting to me.

 Joseph
 p.s.  Sorry if I'd offended you with my previous response.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Linking parents with children

2008-04-02 Thread Heather Stovold
Does it say 1/2 before the childs name???

If so, I think you will find that the child is linked to the mom, and an
unknown husband/father.  (and that you have show 1/2 children turned on,
which I advise...)

What you need to do, is unlink the child from the mother, and then in family
view, with both parents showing, say to add an EXISTING child.  I would also
look at the marriages for the mother, and see if there are 2 listed, one to
an unknown.

If would also double check that the husband doesn't have 2 marriages.


Hope that helps



On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ooops Help I goofed.

 I wanted to link a child I had entered with a wife a few days ago, to his
 parents which I just entered today.

 When I link Parents to child, when I look in the family view, it shows the
 child's name and mothers name in ( ) next to it. I am sure this isn't right
 but don't know how to fix it.
 Example:

 Dad   Mom
 AlbertAnna

 Child
 John (DOB/D) (Anna)


 When I enter the child and parents at the same time this doesn't happen.

 I know there are Wise and Helpful Masters of Legacy on this list.
 Please give me some guidance.

 Most appreciated,
 Christina

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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

2008-04-02 Thread Heather Stovold
Fine - reword the question to How does a person get descendants without
having a sexual partner?

Either way, you generally want the spouse/other/whatever person included on
a descendants list, as they are the mothers/fathers of the next generation
of decendants which was the ACTUAL point of the question

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It's called FORNICATION   sexual relations without the obligation,
 responsibility. and
 commitment of marriage.

 Joseph



 Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
  How does a person get descendants without having a spouse?
 
  Elizabeth
  researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
 
 
 
  Do you know how I can create tags for the following:
  1) Descendants - Which I'm looking for those related by blood, (No
  Spouses (I guess there are not really descendants)
 
 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Column Size on Index List

2008-04-01 Thread Heather Stovold
Just grab and drag the little bars between the columns on the column
headers.Also, if you double click on the little bars, it will make the
column just big enough to show the longest data in that column.  I find that
handy for stuff like RIN that is pretty small

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Gayle Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Any suggestions as to how to reduce the width of the columns on the Index
 List?  It would be much more useful to be able to see more columns on the
 screen at one time so you could identify the individual you are looking for
 without having to scan sideways.  At the present time I can only see RIN #
 and Name on the screen.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help regarding how many in the family trees do I keep.

2008-03-24 Thread Heather Stovold
Yes, I agree, it depends what you want

A long time ago, my personal database had everything from my mom's database,
and everything from my dad's database.   Both my mom and dad had gone wide
(ie, doing a lot of research of decendants, to the present day) to try to
find people that might have solutions to their respective road-blocks etc.
My mom also had some ancestors of people that were no longer closely related
enough to be called relatives  (ancestors of people related only through
marriage, and maybe a couple of marriages.)

I would get so confused as to who was who (although it showing relationships
(where there are one) helped a lot  but it got so confusing for me, and
I was so overwhelmed.So I know keep a few legacy databases.

There is my proven  database, the main one I use, and the only one I
actively update.   It has mostly my direct ancestors, and the descendants of
all my grandparents.   I also have the siblings of my ancestors, and maybe
just a little off the path too  It is just stuff I have more directly
proved for myself.

I then have various research databases.  There is one each for my mom, and
my dad.   When I get updates from them, I replace it with the new one.
This has a LOT more stuff than my proven database - especially my mom's.  It
is their research.  Whenever I am working on a new problem, I always check
with the appropriate one, to see what they have, and what their sources are,
so I know where I may want to look.  (If possible, I get them to scan any
documents they have.)   Of course, I am also doing research on people they
might not have anything on yet.

If I find something on the internet (which is actually rare for the lines
I'm working on) - I create a new legacy file from the gedcom so I
can use it as a base to do research from.

The cool think is I can open my proven database and one of the research
database side by side - and if there is something useful, I can
drag-and-drop in a person or family one at a time as I am ready for them.

Note that I don't keep my research databases up-to-date - they are just a
reference of what might be true


So, you need to decide what is useful for you, and what will help you the
most.   If all the extra people are confusing you, then you may want to have
a main file that you mostly use, with just the main family name. and
keep another file with all the info of all the extra lines. I just
wouldn't be trying to keep them both up-to-date, because that is extra work,
and gets very confusing (did I put the change here, there, or no-where???)




On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:22 AM, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Valerie,

 It depends entirely on what you want! I have two main databases, one is
 for my own family tree which includes everybody with a connection
 irrespective of surname.

 The other is more or less a Ferguson one-name tree in this I include the
 husband of a Ferguson and their children. You may wish to stop at the female
 and just put a note in to say she married Fred Jones.


 Ron Ferguson

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Help regarding how many in the family trees do I
 keep.
  Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:45:56 +1100
  
  For my study of the CULLODEN name I have received 5 different gedcom
  files as well as all the names I am collecting from my own research.
 
  My problem is what do I keep in the main file?
 
  For example I have 4 generations of a CULLODEN family. In the 5th
  generation, lets say, there are 7 children 1 boy and 6 girls all of whom
  marry and all of whom have children right down to the present day.
 
  I am finding that all of these people down from, in this case, the fifth
  generation who do mot bear the CULLODEN name, are making the file
  cumbersome so I would like to know how everyone else handles this
  situation please.
 
  One thought was to keep all the separate gedcoms, add them to THE
  CULLODEN FILE and then delete each female after they loose their
  CULLODEN name. Oh can I HEARR THE SHOUTING NOW 
 
  It would be necessary to say there were x children and their descendents
  on a separate file named BATES.ged so that it is obvious that the line
  continues and that the records are available.
 
  I realise that all these people that I am not including in the main
  database are still CULLODENs by descent but I would think that any
  enquiries would come from a CULLODEN question.
 
  I am not thinking very clearly on this subject so please 

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Heather Stovold
And I know some people have already suggested putting stuff to an email, or
other internet space. and that would qualify

Just wanted to definately recommend an off-site backup.   I lost the vast
majority of my genealogy in 1988 (before I was on the internet) because
of. a house fire!  I lost all my paper documents, my computer, my zip
disk backups.   except that I was a computer programmer by trade, and
knew the practice of most software companies of having an offsite
backupand I had a zip disk in my safetly deposit box.   It wasn't
the most up-to-date (about a month old), and the software I used at the
time didn't do sources and my notes only had a few sources but I had
something!

So - I recommend offsite backups!




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Re: [LegacyUG] Charting Print Question

2008-03-18 Thread Heather Stovold
 It is for Beta testers only.  (I was one near the beginning, but no longer
really have time.)   If I'm not mistaken, the Beta testers are a couple of
versions ahead of the release too.



 - BTW what's the Legacy Charting Beta List and where is it? Or is it for
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[LegacyUG] Suggestion of how to document/source

2008-03-16 Thread Heather Stovold
I am looking for suggestions on how to source or document how I have
determined a relationship.

Basically, I have the Will of a Thomas Dixon, who died  in 1856 and a
James Dixon, who died in 1862.   Thomas Dixon is a known relative  we
suspected that a James Dixon might be a relative because he had been a
witness to some of Thomas' children's christenings

Both Thomas Dixon and James Dixon had an executor named Richard Dixon.
(same location, same occupation)

Thomas Dixon, when naming his executors, specifically says that Richard
Dixon is his brother.
James Dixon, when naming his executors, specifically says that Richard Dixon
is his son.  (he also left him stuff)

So, if it is the same Richard Dixon, (baring any non-mentioned
step-relationships) that would make James Dixon the father of Thomas Dixon.

Looking at the signatures of Richard Dixon on the various affidavits in the
2 estate files - the signatures match very well, showing that it is the same
Richard Dixon.

So - how in the world do I source/document the relationships... so that when
I look at the list of sources, I see I have a source???




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Re: [LegacyUG] charting pre-edition

2008-03-05 Thread Heather Stovold
 Because it is easier for people to learn to use a program if it has an
interface that is standard... ie, one used by other programs.  As
Microsoft (rightly or wrongly) has the most people using its programs, it is
a main standard to follow.

I well remember the days when in one program, to get help, you would press
ctrl-H, another program it was alt-H, yet another it was F1, and
another it was F3 (I think), etc etc.   Another wide variation on how to
save.  etc, etc.   It is a lot easier to use programs if most of the
programs use the same keystrokes to do common things - and the same with the
menus and toolbars, and other graphical interfaces.

I for one am glad that Legacy is using a commonly used interface for the
toolbars and menus.


 months for my vision to adjust.  With unlimited creativity available for
 designing graphical interfaces, why would Legacy be imitating Microsoft,
 unless there is intent to be the default genealogy program in one their
 future operating systems?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinked individuals

2008-03-04 Thread Heather Stovold
File maintenance does NOT remove them. hope that helps a bit!

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM, familyjesse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Can anyone tell me if doing file maintenance removes all unlinked
 individuals? I have some people that I can't seem to find. If file
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Re: [LegacyUG] Detailed Search Problem

2008-02-28 Thread Heather Stovold
I just did a simple Detailed Search with version 6.0.0.189  and it
worked fine.  (indiv. with name equal to Thomas)   I thought it was
the latest version - but I see on the home tabe there is a
6.0.0.190.  Which version are you using?

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:45 PM, William Robinette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using Legacy Deluxe addition and running Winows XP Pro. I have the
 latest build of Legacy. A problem has  suddenly developed in which I am
 unable to get the Detailed Search to work any longer. All other parts of
 the program work fine. No matter what conditions I select I get a return
 of : No records were found that match the search criteria. I had been
 doing a lot of editing and searching using Detailed Search with no
 problems for several weeks now. I keep thinking there must be some
 simple solution to my problem but I can't figure it out. Please help.

 Bill





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[LegacyUG] Did you know

2008-02-28 Thread Heather Stovold
I was looking around on the Family view, and noticing the tool tips
for the various places that you put your cursor.  Most of them I
already knew about, because of this group.  (like clicking beside the
husband rotates through his spouses, etc)

Well, did you know that on the little clock at the bottom of the
screen, if you click on that, you can set an alarm?  Basically you can
set it to go off at a certain time, to tell you to go do something
else, like go to bed!

It is amazing what you find in this program if you just look around!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Heather Stovold
People seem to do the AKA's differently - kind of a personal choice thing.

I put married names into AKA's, and I also put in any spelling variations,
nicknames, and total misspellings that I have FOUND used for a person.   I
don't put in spelling variations that are common for the surname, if I
haven't found them listed by that name.

So, for instance, for my ancestor Ellen McCaslin - her name is listed as
Ellen McCaslin   I have:

Ellen Dixon[married name]
Ellen Caslin   [1851 census]
Ellen McCasline  [medical records]
Ellen McCastin  [index to 1881 census - took me a while to find the family
because of that one!)

For Sarah Anne Dixon  (married name McCaslin) - because she was sometimes
called Anne or Ann, there are entries like

Sara Ann Dixon
Sarah Anne McCaslin
Anne Dixon
Annie Dixon
Ann McCaslin

and various other combinations - but again - only the ones that I've seen
her called by in a document






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wrote:

 When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually seen
 on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?

 I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source attached
 to
 each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the name
 variations you have actually seen.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Heather Stovold
Yes, I probably said that I had found in documents - but I would have
recorded those nicknames in the AKA's as well  (or maybe used the nickname
feature of the main name if they were pretty much used all the time)  -
I'd probably put in a few people as sources (or the person themself as the
source, if still alive) - and a note that they were generally called that -
or called that by buddies in the military, or whatever.

Basically, I used the AKA's to make sure that I would recognize that person
in another source if they were done the same.  I don't put all the spelling
variations that might exist (just the ones that I've seen for the person) -
as I generally know the variations, etc.

And, from the last time AKA's were mentioned, I'd really like to see these
broken up a bit in the future   Married names seperate from AKA's,
Spelling variations/mistakes in another area, and then Nicknames, and name
changes.   I'd like them seperate so that I can turn on the different types
individually in the index view.  (Ie, I'd like to see just the main names,
the name changes/nick names, and sometimes the married names - but not all
the spelling variations - or whatever combination makes the most sense)

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally, I record the ones I know were in use, even though they don't
 show up on any official documents.

 examples followed




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a second Residence Event trouble

2008-02-22 Thread Heather Stovold
 The Cause of Death that shows up in the family view (if selected) isn't one
of the events.  You enter it by going into notes, selecting the Medical tab,
and filling in the Cause of Death field there





 Can I ask about something else?  I added a Cause of Death event via the
 Indiv Information event screen.  Why doesn't the information I entered for
 cause of death show up in the family view for this person?  Cause of Death
 is one of my 5 customized display choices for the family view.  I've
 always
 wondered about this.

 Dennis







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Re: [LegacyUG] name list problem

2008-02-21 Thread Heather Stovold
I haven't had that problem  but here are a couple of thoughts

Have you tried a Fix/Repair on the database?

If you turn on the AKA's in the index, do the missing people show up then?

Is it always the same people missing, or are they missing one day, there
another, and someone else missing?   (I hope it is the same people - it
makes it easier to do the testing)

If you create a new database, and then import everyone from the old database
- does it happen in the new database?   (Make sure you keep them straight -
and get rid of the extra database once you have determined if it happens in
the new one or not)

Other than that, I'd try calling support, and seeing if they have any ideas,
as I haven't heard of anyone else with the problem, so it seems strange that
you are having it - and for more than a year - making me wonder if there is
something wierd with the database

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I asked this question several years ago and never really got an answer
 that helped. It wasn't such a problem then, but now my database is so much
 larger that it's often a real problem.For some unknown reason I don't seem
 to get all of my people in my database. When I go to the surname list and
 look for someone, they aren't there. But I work around it by going to the
 wife or child's name etc, and the original person that I was looking for
 really is there. So everytime I look to see if I have a particular name and
 it doesn't show up, I have to try to work around it with other connections.
 This is time consuming and quite frankly real annoying. Can anyone tell me
 what the problem is and hopefully how to fix it. ThanksNancy






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Re: [LegacyUG] a few questions

2008-02-17 Thread Heather Stovold
1)  Traditional Top-Down tree

No idea what she means by that.

2) Charting

Coming in v7

3) Number of Data Files

not sure what she means by that   You can have as many different data
files (with different trees, or same trees) as you want.  I have about 6 -
although I have a main one - the others are research ones..

hope that helps a bit

 Another person has put together a matrix of the differences in
 the software packages. The only one that comes anywhere near
 Legacy is RootsMagic (which I had tried but did not like). In her
 matrix she has a few statements that confused me and I wanted to
 get some of your opinions.

 1) traditional top-down tree (what is it?)
 2) drag and drop charting (since I don't do charting I have not
 idea)
 3) number of data files (she lists 2 for Legacy and 35 for RM)






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Re: [LegacyUG] sudden shutdown

2008-02-15 Thread Heather Stovold
No idea what happened, or why - you should have been fine. but it sounds
like one of your .usr files got changed - not your data file.




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wrote:

 Earlier today when my computer was doing a regular scan Legacy suddenly
 stopped responding and shut down.  I wasn't using the program at the
 time and had tried to close it by right-clicking the icon on the bar at
 the bottom of my computer screen.  I re-started the computer and tried
 to open Legacy again.  It asked me which file to open and found the
 Master.fdb file that I use but when it opened, all the fonts had changed
 to the default and other minor things were different.  I then closed
 that and opened up one of my backup copies but the file still looks
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Re: [LegacyUG] timeline question

2008-02-14 Thread Heather Stovold
You can make, or customize any timeline you want, and then when looking at
the individual's timeline, you can say to use it or not



On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Is there way to add an individual timeline entry to someone's timeline
 without adding it as an event?

 I would like to add when MS became a state and when certain counties were
 formed because it would show why a person was in Greene Co, MS in 1819 but
 then in Perry Co in 1820 (Perry was formed from Greene in April 1820)

 I could make a timeline for MS with when the state was formed as well as
 when all the counties were formed but not only would that be very time
 consuming, 99% of the counties wouldn't apply to my individuals)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Document

2008-02-12 Thread Heather Stovold
And until v7 - attach it as a video or sound file - change the dialog to
look for all files (*.*)

On Feb 12, 2008 5:33 PM, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that's coming up in version 7.0.

 JL
 http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/

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  Where/how can I attach a document that is not a picture file (for
  example, a .pdf file)? I searched the archives but did not really find
  a solution.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Younger Members LUG

2008-02-11 Thread Heather Stovold
I don't know of any.  (btw, I started genealogy at age 16)

I do have various links and resources for young genealogists, from about age
8 to teenage appropriate links (depending on the link) if any of that
would help.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I copy a Master Source?

2008-02-09 Thread Heather Stovold
 v7 is going to have a whole new source templates and other stuff redone




 me some hope and at least a work-around.  Gene, your idea is a great one!
 The fact that it's so easy to overwrite an existing Master source is very
 scary--at least to me.  We shouldn't have to worry about that.  Hoping the
 good folks at Legacy fix this feature soon.  There should just be a
 plain
 old copy and save function for Master Sources, dependent on nothing but
 hitting save and naming the source.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Undo Surnames in CAPS

2008-02-09 Thread Heather Stovold
There is a surname list - and it remembers the way the caps were the first
time you used the name  kind of confusing.  You can go to (from top
menu)  View-Master Lists-Surnames   or you can, when entering a name,
click on the little down arrow to the right of the surname field.Pick
the name in All-caps from the list, and then click on the Edit button and
fix it.  I think it will change in everywhere used.

On Feb 9, 2008 4:00 PM, Georgia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I began using Legacy, I inadvertently entered some surnames in all
 caps, not realizing I could get the program to do this for me when desired.
 Now that I am listening to all the training cds, I want to undo the names I
 did incorrectly.  However, because of autofill, anytime I go to that name
 and try to redo it, it fills it in the way it was first done.  I do have the
 option checked for Don't change what I enter.  Should I uncheck that to
 make the changes?  And then check it again when I have finished?

 Unfortunately, these are the primary names in my ancestry so each time I
 add a new cousin, etc. with one of these last names, the problem repeats
 itself.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Date calculator

2008-02-06 Thread Heather Stovold
It has no idea what you are calculating - Select Date is designed to fill in
whatever date field you were in when you started the calculator.

On Feb 6, 2008 1:29 PM, Nancy Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 When I am using the date calculator, I noticed something that might be a
 bug.

 If I know a death date and age at death, I enter the death date and open
 the date calculator while my cursor is still in the death date field. This
 auto-populates the second date in the calculator. Then I fill in the
 appropriate years, months and days and select calculate. A first date is
 then calculated and my cursor moves to the first date field. When I then
 choose Select Date, I would expect the first date to fill in the birth
 date field, but it does not, instead, it replaces what I had in the death
 date field.

 Shouldn't it fill in a first date field instead.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Clooz and Legacy 7 ????

2008-02-05 Thread Heather Stovold
Couldn't you just make a copy of your Legacy Database, and use the copy in
Legacy, and the other one just in Clooz?   Just make sure you never open the
Clooz one in Legacy after v7?




On Feb 5, 2008 5:24 PM, G. C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Debbie,
 Thanks for the reply. I have already been in touch with Liz and there is
 no
 current way to disconnect a clooz and Legacy database once connection is
 established.
 I was hoping that someone from the Legacy support staff would help with
 this.
 G.C. Oliver


 GENEALOGY: Disturbing the dead and irritating the living.
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie
 Freeman
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:43 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz and Legacy 7 

 Hello G.C.,

 Check with Elizabeth or the Legacy folks first.

 You might try to restore your Clooz file from the Clooz Zip file.

 It has been some time since I tried to do that.

 It might give you the option screen again where you chose to keep the file
 separate from Legacy.

 Good Luck,

 Debbie Freeman



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. C.
 Oliver
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:31 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz and Legacy 7 

 Debbie,

 Thanks for the reply. You are correct that you can have a Clooz database
 without Legacy. The only problem is when you create a Clooz database
 linked
 to Legacy it cannot be used without that Specific Legacy file. If you then
 convert that file to Legacy 7 your Clooz file containing all of your
 research may become useless. I have a rather large Clooz 2.1 file that is
 very helpful.

 G.C. Oliver


 GENEALOGY: Disturbing the dead and irritating the living.
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie
 Freeman
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:42 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz and Legacy 7 

 Hello,

 Clooz can and does work with or without Legacy. I use both programs.

 Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens knows more than I of course. I will try to
 answer.

 Please read both programs Help section.

 Follow the directions and you should/will be able to create a new Clooz
 database within minutes.

 It will work without Legacy.

 My Clooz files are separate.

 I will pass on a hint though.

 When you create the Clooz databases name them different enough to tell the
 difference.

 You could put a C in front of the Clooz files and an L in front of the
 Legacy files.

 Example - CSmith or LSmith.

 Elizabeth is and has been great about helping us users use her program.

 I totally understand her view point as well.

 Good Luck
 Debbie Freeman


 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. C.
 Oliver
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:54 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Clooz and Legacy 7 

 The following is a cut and past from the Clooz UG. It is from the
 Elizabeth
 Kerstens the author of Clooz. I use Clooz and my Clooz database will not
 work without Legacy. This it is very disturbing. Especially the part that
 7
 may not work with Clooz and the Legacy folks are not helping with the
 transition. My only option is to NOT upgrade.

 Help! Anyone got a suggestion.

 G.C. Oliver
 Athens, Ga. USA
 Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CLOOZ] Clooz and Legacy
 Clooz 2 and Legacy 6 work together currently. The folks at Legacy come out
 with updates more frequently than I am capable of doing, so Clooz 2 may or
 may not work with Legacy 7. I am not happy with the integration and the
 expectations that it causes, especially because I haven't been able to get
 implementations made on the Legacy side that assist with the integration.
 So
 I am not going to pursue that course any more, or pursue integrating with
 other genealogy programs other than to import GEDCOMs. It's a programming
 nightmare to keep up with all the programs out there in their various
 stages
 and I can't afford to try, nor can I expect to keep up as a one-person
 company with a contract programmer. I'm sorry, but it's a bigger fish than
 I'm capable of frying. I am working on an update to Clooz 2.1 that will
 fix
 a few issues and add some functionality, but it won't be out probably
 until
 the end of this year or early next year.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Primary Name and AKA

2008-02-01 Thread Heather Stovold
Makes sense to me!

On Feb 1, 2008 10:18 AM, Erik Pilgaard Vinther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Whether the reason for the missing Vinther at Anton's christening was due
 to
 a clerical error or some other reason I don't know, but there is no doubt
 that Anton perceived him self as a Vinther. Therefore I'm inclined to set
 his primary name as Anton Marius Winther, and his christening name as an
 AKA
 name.

 Any views on this are very welcome.






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[LegacyUG] Drag-Drop Problem, and Importing Sources Problem

2008-01-29 Thread Heather Stovold
I updated to 6.0.0.179  - and now if I have 2 different files open in
split-view, I can no longer drag-drop from one to the other - and in
general, it seems to get lost and end up with the same file opened in 2
windows.   Happened ONLY after I upgraded to .179 - anyone else had the
problem?  (I've put in a bug report.)  - and if you use this feature, and
haven't upgraded - don't.

Also - for some reason, I have one source that won't import from one file
to another.  This was from .178 (or whatever I had before I upgraded).   I
tried to import lists from the Sources options menu - and got a lot of
them - but not the one I wanted.   I tried tagging just that one source in
the first database, and saying to import only the tagged source from the
sources options menu - ended up getting nothing.   Tried drag-dropping a
person that used that source and got the problem above.  Tried doing an
Import of the person that used the source using Import from a Legacy File
- the person imported, but not the source.   ARGH!   The Source was created
yesterday, is of type correspondance.  Nothing else remarkable about
it.   Anyone else had this problem???  (also submitted a bug report.)

This is aggrivating, because I'm trying to get all the info from this source
in, so I can file the papers before they get swallowed by my desk, so to
speak.I also have used drag-drop and split-view a lot!   I'm now
stalled.




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Re: [LegacyUG] My Grandfather's Name Change

2008-01-29 Thread Heather Stovold
I have a similar situation, I believe, where one of my people changed his
name a few times.

For his main name, I used his birth name - and put each of his other names
as aka's, and documented them.He is linked to everyone he is related to,
using his birth name.   It is a matter of opinion as to which name you want
to use as his primary name.   I make sure that the aka's are printed on any
forms etc I print.

What I would like, is to have a place to store aka's (other names they went
by, whether by an official name change, or a nickname.)  Then seperately, I
would like married names.  And also seperately, I would like misspellings -
where I would put any misspelling of their name that I have seen for that
specific person.   Then I'd like to be able, in the index, to turn on (or
off) the aka's and married names (seperately), but leave the misspellings
out.  (I use aka's for all of these!)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Please help - doubles

2008-01-29 Thread Heather Stovold
One method (may not be the only or best...)  - make sure (as you said you
have) that the individuals are not duplicated... just the marriage.

Decide which of the 2 (duplicate) marriages to keep.   Go to the one you
want to get rid of in Family View.

Right Click on Each child - Select Unlink from Parents

Bring up the marriage you are keeping in Family View.   For each child you
unlinked from the duplicate marriage, if they are not already here, click on
a blank child spot, and say Add Existing Son/Daughter then select the
child to add.

When all the children are in the marriage you are keeping,  Click on the
Spouses button of either the husband or wife.  This should show both
marriages.  Select the one you WANT to get RID OF - and click on Delete.  It
will give you a warning box, asking if you want to delete the marriage, and
unlink the people.  Make sure there are no children listed, then go ahead.
I think if there are no children, you can use the unlink button too.

Hope that helps!



On Jan 29, 2008 2:11 PM, Debbie Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I went back and cleaned up the file. I thought. But I still seem to
 develop
 multiple marriages.

 How do I merge the double marriages to make one marriage to fix my
 problem?

 Same spouses, 2 marriages. No people are doubles.

 One marriage has the child I merged to the parents the other marriage has
 the rest of the children.

 I still have a few children that I need to connect to their parents.






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Re: [LegacyUG] My Grandfather's Name Change

2008-01-29 Thread Heather Stovold
True enough - I just meant a variation from the spelling that seems to be
the most used for the individual or family

But that said - I'd like a seperate place to put the spelling variations I
find for any individual. - seperate from the AKA's

On Jan 29, 2008 5:51 PM, Dave Naylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 29 Jan 2008  Heather Stovold wrote:

  also seperately, I would like misspellings - where I would put any
  misspelling of their name that I have seen for that specific person.

 Playing devil's advocate here . . .

 There is no such thing as misspellings because there was no such
 thing as correct spelling!






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Re: [LegacyUG] Drag-Drop Problem, and Importing Sources Problem

2008-01-29 Thread Heather Stovold
Thanks all - Check/Repair killed the source in the database - so there was
something wrong with it (which is what I figured)Drag and Drop does
seem to be working now - so probably just because of the messed up
database.   I had put in a bug report - but wanted to warn anyone that used
the feature.So for now - it looks like it works ok, and it was just the
file.

Cust support has the file and will look at it.

Thanks!

On Jan 29, 2008 5:54 PM, Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Heather,

 I don't know what is happening for you. I just tried the Split View
 and drag and drop with build 179 and it's working fine here.  Which
 may be even more frustrating for you. :-(

 I've no idea why a particular source won't import. It's possible a
 Check/Repair might sought out that issue. If it doesn't I'd put in a
 bug report on that.

 Cathy






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Re: [LegacyUG] Address lists

2008-01-27 Thread Heather Stovold
Go to your Address list  (I just did a click on the + of a burial event.
Click on Address List button.   Find your cemetary, and select it, then
click on Show List   That will give you a list of everyone that used that
cemetary.

From there, there is a Print button, or you can tag everyone if you want to
do something more to them.

That is one of the things I like about the Address list!

Hope that Helps!




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Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

2008-01-24 Thread Heather Stovold
Well, I would do something like

Washington, , District of Columbia, United States
I don't know if there is a county or not.


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 How should District of Columbia for Washington,  D.C. be sited?  City,
 County, State, USA???







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Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS

2008-01-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Just want to say that I personally would never use a filing system that uses
MRIN's or RIN's as the basis.

The reason?   Several years ago, I did (MRINs) - and then something
happened, and all my MRINs got changed.   Fortunately, I had on all my file
folders the Surname, Firstname, so was able to rearrange them.

And even though Legacy is fantastic software, From having done computer
genealogy for 20 years now, I realize that the likelyhood is that at some
point, there may be a reason that I will need or decide to change software -
and my MRIN's and RIN's could get messed up then.

As I also got sick of duplicates being required for more than one family, I
now use a document numbered system.  Has advantages, and of course some
disadvantages too.

Just a thought to keep in mind though




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