[LegacyUG] Legacy Forum (was: Impossible to unsubscribe?)

2009-11-11 Thread John S. Adams
There is a lightly used message board on RootsWeb:  
http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.software.legacy/mb.ashx


John S. Adams
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Re: [LegacyUG] Charts For Requesting Info

2009-10-18 Thread John S. Adams
Take a look at the Legacy Ancestor Book Report.  From your family file, 
select the individual you wish to send the report to.  On the Options page, 
under Insert Underlines for Missing check Given and surnames and Dates 
and places.  Then select the number of desired generations.  Go to Report 
Options and select the information and format you wish to include.  Return 
to the Ancestor Book page and select Preview.  If this is what you want, 
send it to the selected relative and ask him to fill in the blanks.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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I'd like to create a chart similar to the following, so I can forward it
on to have others fill in missing blanks.
I'd like to be able to specify how many generations to create, when
individuals are not in DB create placeholders for them with categories,
and have categories displayed with known and unknown info.
If info is known in Legacy Fill in the info, if not Leave a blank space
behind Category Field
If we can not currently do this in Legacy, is there a 3rd party app if
gedcom is imported to that will create this type of chart? 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Location time line

2009-10-10 Thread John S. Adams

Jane,
Unless I'm misunderstanding your request, the Chronology view should provide 
what you're looking for.  Access it from the tab above the Legacy screen to 
the left of the Research Guidance tab.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Location time line


I should like to see something like the timeline that one gets in the
Reserach Guidance section of Legacy, which can be printed or saved.
Unfortunately, I cannot find a way to print that timeline.  Often I need a
summary of locations associated with a particular person, so that I have a
quick way of choosing what geographical location to search.  I have not
found a report that does that. Am I missing one?

I am thinking of one a timeline very like the one in Research Guidance,
giving person's name, type of event, date, and location.  Is there a way 
to

print that which I just haven't discovered?

Jane Sarles





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Re: [LegacyUG] Does anyone know how to increase max number of children from 60 to 99

2009-09-20 Thread John S. Adams

Do you have someone who has more than 60 children?

John S. Adams
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Does anyone know how to increase the maximum number of children from 60 to
99 in Legacy 7 Delux?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Chart question

2009-09-19 Thread John S. Adams
2. It would also be great if I could do one chart, such as the hourglass, 
with our grandfather's ancestry on one side and grandmother's ancestry on 
the other. Is this possible?


Try the Bow Tie chart with a child of the grandparents as the focal 
person.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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From: Mary Figgins mbfigg...@yahoo.com
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Chart question


I'm trying to put together a descendancy chart for a small family get
together of my mother, her sibling and their children and
grandchildren. Some the of the cousins have never met each other and
don't know who each other are. The chart is to help them know how we all 
fit
together. There a few things I'd really like to have on the chart but 
can't find. I'm using Legacy Charting.


1. Is it is possible to show children of
previous marriages of the spouse? My sister and brother have both
married people who have children by a previous marriage. Even though
they are not blood relatives, these older children are considered
part of our family. I remember my uncle have boys older than me. I just 
found out that they were his wife's from a previous marriage. Can a chart 
show these children? If not, is there some way to cleanly edit the chart 
to insert them?


2. It would also be great if I could do one chart, such as the hourglass, 
with our grandfather's ancestry on one side and grandmother's ancestry on 
the other. Is this possible?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mary Beth Figgins







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Re: [LegacyUG] Handling Divorces in Charting

2009-09-19 Thread John S. Adams
I think this is possible by creating 2 hour glass charts, one for each 
parent.  With some judicious editing and moving of boxes, and probably a lot 
of trial and error, the printed pages could be taped together to create such 
a chart.  I don't know of any way to do this in one digital file.  It's kind 
of a cut and paste job, but possible.  Give it a try.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Can anyone advise me how to solve the following problem.


 Most people want to see the ancestors of both of their parents and
their descendants, however I find no chart that will do this.  I like the 
hour-glass chart, but it only shows the ancestors of the selected person 
and his/her descendants (not the ancestors of his/her spouse).


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Re: [LegacyUG] Charting - ancestry

2009-09-19 Thread John S. Adams

Mary,
See my post of a few minutes with the mistaken subject line of Re: 
[LegacyUG] Handling Divorces in Charting.


John S. Adams
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Is it possible to have a chart that shows ancestor and descendants of a
couple?  I can get a hour glass that gives the descendants of a couple and
the ancestors of one person in the couple.  Can it show the ancestors of
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Re: [LegacyUG] Chart question

2009-09-19 Thread John S. Adams

Mary Beth,
Instead of creating a separate chart for each child, I would add a phantom 
child to the grandparents and name it something like, Jane, Thomas, and 
Cynthia, JONES or Children of Sam and Margaret JONES, and choose the 
phony kid as the focal person for the chart.  Of course you need to delete 
the phantom after you've printed your chart.


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Duh! I guess I can do one from each of the children showing them in that 
position.


Mary Beth






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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source

2009-09-16 Thread John S. Adams
When I first started to source my data, I used the rule of thumb that a 
Master Source was any single document whether it was a single page, as a 
Birth Certificate, or millions of pages, as the 1900 U.S. Census.  Of 
course, as time passed I encountered many sources for which this format 
wasn't a good fit.  And then I came across collections of data, such as 
Ancestry.com has.  So now I use the collection (e.g., Texas Marriage 
Collection, 1814-1909) as a Master Source.  Almost all my Birth/Death 
certificates that I use as Master Sources were created with the Basic Source 
template, so the individual name is included in the Title.  If you are 
determined to keep the BC as a Master Source, you might try entering 
individual identifying date in the Text or Comments fields and checking the 
Include on reports box and see if you can get wording that works for you.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source
because information from each certificate relates to a number of different
people.  A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, 
ages

(hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents
marriage date and place, and birth informant.  Other certificates 
similarly

have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s).

I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template 
for

a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll
countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most
other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of
fields)

There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate
relates to.

If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage
place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out 
source

list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the
information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List 
Name

to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports.

The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there
does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player.
These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something?  Do 
I
have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get 
a

source that tells me whose birth is being recorded?

How does anybody else cite a birth certificate?

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[LegacyUG] Reports of Migration Patterns--was Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

2009-09-09 Thread John S. Adams
You can also create an Event Report.  Just tag the individuals you want to 
include, and make a report for the tagged individuals for Residence events. 
Use Options to select the data you want to include, e.g. Date, Place.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Location



Mike:

I believe you can accomplish the migration patterns for an individual 
using

Legacy as follows:

1.  Place a Resident event for the individual for each resident location,
e.g., at college, 1st job, 2nd job, etc -- I have about 15 resident events
for myself for each location that I have lived at - be sure to include the
city, county, state, country location in the resident event
2.  Then View the Chronology Tab and it will display the time history of a
person very nicely -- this provides a 1 or 2 page summary of a persons 
life

3.  You can also map an individual and it will map all of these resident
event locations during the persons life.

When I 1st started using Legacy, I didn't use event, but I now place 
Census

events, resident events, and others for each person so I can use the
Chronology reporting capability and the mapping capability.

Try this for yourself in your database, you might like it.
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:48 PM, michael barberi 
michaelbarb...@yahoo.comwrote:



Ron:

Thanks for responding.  My main point was that there is no single place 
in
Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors.  I believe that 
this

information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues.
Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of
individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created 
through
an broad Event, such as Residence History.  In one click on your 
mouse

or in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see
at-a-glance the most important information summarize appropriately. 
You

can then compare such migration information to other family members, etc.
Patterns will emerge that will enable you to write a great family story.

It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that 
we

all could see a migration pattern plotting chart.  It would be also
interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other 
family

members information.  Hence, one could view a complete family's migration
history.  Any thoughts?

Mike Barberi

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question

2009-09-03 Thread John S. Adams

Judy,
The Master Source should be the same for each individual.  The differences 
should be entered in the Detail screen.  After you create the Master Source 
with the common information for the letter, select that for as the source 
for the first individual and enter the text for him in the Source Detail 
screen.  For the next individual, select the same source, but change the 
Detail text.  Thus, for each individual, the Master Source info will be the 
same, but the Detail text will be different.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Master source question

I have a question about master sources. I am a new user, and am adding 
some
new people to my file. I have a document (a letter) which I want to use as 
a

master source for these new people.

So I created a master source, and started inputting the pertinent text for
each person as I went along.

However, I find that this seems to be a snowballing effect...the text for
the last person reappears for the new person and so on.

How do I create a master source, such as a document, that is used for
multiple people, and just refer to the part that pertains to a certain
individual in that individual's source?

Judy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth/Born Sentence Structure

2009-09-01 Thread John S. Adams
I assume you are trying to create a Descendant BOOK Report.  You cannot 
include Events on the Descendant CHART.  In the Book report you can select 
Report Options and then check the very first box on the Include tab, 
Addr for birth, chr, death, bur., marr. to include addresses for those 
events. The addresses appear as follows:


John SMITH was born on 1 Sep 1950 in Hometown, Home County, California, USA 
(Hometown Memorial Hospital, 3330 Main St., Hometown, CA, USA).


This may not be the exact format you want, but I don't think you can change 
the sentence structure.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Birth/Born Sentence Structure


Mike,

Your answer makes the most sense.  The Birth/Born, Baptism/Christening,
Death, Burial and possibly Marriage should be considered as 'information'
not 'events'.

How would you stop these 'events/information' from printing?

Thanks Again,
Ron Howell

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth/Born Sentence Structure

Ronald E Howell wrote:


   Is it possible to change the sentence structure for the 'Birth/Born'
event to include an address?  For example: ' was born at (Hospital
Address) in (City, County, State, USA)'.  I known the structure can be
changed on other events, but would like to do this with birth, death, and
marriage.  The report I'm trying to do this on is a 'Descendant Report'.
   I am running the current update to Legacy (7.0.0.107).
   I have looked through the Legacy Archives and could not fine anything

to

help.


Problem: Birth, Baptism/Christening, Death and Burial 'events' are not
Events in the sense that they normally have definitions in the Master
List of Event Definitions. Nothing to stop you adding these as Events
along with your own definition of how they print. Of course, you'd have
to stop the 'events' from printing as well.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants narrative report query

2009-08-27 Thread John S. Adams

Gwen,
It looks to me that the starting person for the report is an ancestor of the 
sisters.  Therefore, each sister appears as a descendant and the husband 
would appear twice (once as the husband of each of the sisters) and so would 
his information.  If the starting person was an ancestor of the husband, he 
would appear just once and so would his information.  Also, in the case of a 
man married twice to non-sisters, only one of the wives would be a 
descendant and the other wife would not be mentioned.


I'd have to do a little experimenting to try all the variables of family 
relationships, so your situation might be something else.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: Noddie 7thw...@ihug.co.nz
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants narrative report query


Hi Ron and thank you for your reply to my query.

I understand your answer and believe Legacy is working fine for me.

What I cannot come to grips with is I have a similar situation  (though 
they are not sisters this time) in the same family
where another brother married twice but his Noted events only show up 
with one spouse and I have not changed any of the settings to make  this 
appear otherwise.?

Weird.

Thanks again

Gwen
Land of the long white cloud - New Zealand



On 27/08/2009, at 7:55 PM, ronald ferguson wrote:



Gwen,

As I understand your question, I believe that Legacy is acting 
correctly, and in a way which I would wish.


If I go to either of the sisters then I would expect to see her 
husband's details, if they are only set for one sister then how  would I 
know which, indeed would I even know that they are with the  other, if 
they are not there?


You can minimise what is shown by unchecking show spouses  notesbut do 
note that this would apply to all spouses.



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From: 7thw...@ihug.co.nz
Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendants narrative report query
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:06:07 +1200


Hi
I have created a descendants narrative report for my relative. I 
checked the detail and find on the following pages I have  duplicated 
information which I believe is not correct.


I have a chap who married two sisters, the 2nd after the first  sister 
died. I have events entered for this chap, but am finding  on my report 
and it is only with him, that the events for :Noted  events in his life: 
are printing out twice. Once for his entry for  his 1st wife and then 
again for the entry with his 2nd wife (her  sister). I have other 
relatives who have been married twice and  this does seem to happen with 
them. Have I pushed some magic  button and made it appear twice by 
mistake. I do hope someone can  help with this as I have checked my 
settings and cannot find an  answer.


In the options for the report under include I have ticked
Events for husband and wife
Events for marriage
Notes all of these options are ticked

I have tried unchecking events for husband and wife and events for 
marriage alternatively and this does not fix the problem

Thanks for any kind help with this.
Ta

Gwen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

2009-08-23 Thread John S. Adams

Chick,
Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting 
couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and 
spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren 
on the fourth, etc.  In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart 
type.


By direct descendant chart, do you mean the chart described above without 
showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.?


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books


John,

Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families.  That
method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact,
I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4
generations at a time.  I am not sure I know what a drop-down
descendant chart is.  Is it printable in a book or a web page?

FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I
rather not go back to it.  Does anyone know if one of the Legacy
add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart?

Chick


On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adamsoldbr...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

Chick,

I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or 
box

descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu.

You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart 
with
Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first 
chart

would show the starting couple with all their children and children's
spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then 
a

chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired
number of generations. The number of pages required would of course 
depend
on the number of generations and the number of children in each 
generation.


Is this what you're looking for?

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Alastair,
Thank you for your response. I am not ready to publish as yet. I am
still trying to determine what should go in the book and what type of
charts to use. It is difficult to create a readable chart with more
than 4 generations on a single standard size page. An ancestor chart
or pedigree chart can easily span several generations with
continuations to other pages, but that does not work very well with
descendant charts. I am looking for a way to create a descendant
chart in multiple pages suitable for a book. Another possible way to
reduce the size of a descendant chart would be to show direct
descendants only.
Chick





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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

2009-08-23 Thread John S. Adams
In that case, I think the Relationship Calculator would produce the desired 
chart.  However, carefully proofread any chart, as the RC is rather buggy.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: Valerie Laskowski lask...@att.net
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No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and
having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route.
The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature.

At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have 
to

make one for myself to see if it matches.
Valerie

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Chick,
Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting
couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and
spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, 
ggrandchildren
on the fourth, etc.  In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant 
Chart

type.

By direct descendant chart, do you mean the chart described above 
without

showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

2009-08-22 Thread John S. Adams

Chick,

I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or box 
descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu.


You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart with 
Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts.  The first chart 
would show the starting couple with all their children and children's 
spouses.  Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children.  Then a 
chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired 
number of generations.  The number of pages required would of course depend 
on the number of generations and the number of children in each generation.


Is this what you're looking for?

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Alastair,
Thank you for your response. I am not ready to publish as yet. I am
still trying to determine what should go in the book and what type of
charts to use.  It is difficult to create a readable chart with more
than 4 generations on a single standard size page.  An ancestor chart
or pedigree chart can easily span several generations with
continuations to other pages, but that does not work very well with
descendant charts.  I am looking for a way to create a descendant
chart in multiple pages suitable for a book. Another possible way to
reduce the size of a descendant chart would be to show direct
descendants only.
Chick 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

2009-08-06 Thread John S. Adams
Welcome to the club.  I first reported problems with the Relationship 
Calculator 6 or 8 years ago.  I even sent a copy of my family file to Legacy 
at their request so they could attempt to resolve the problem.  I never 
heard back from them.  There have been many reports of RC problems on this 
forum over the years, but very little, if any, response from Legacy.  There 
are still problems in v7.0.097 with 1/2 relationships (e.g., 1/2 Granduncle 
reported as Granduncle), relationships changing when Swap is selected, and 
duplication or omission of generations at times.  I have nothing near the 
30+ generations that you have, but I'm sure the chances of errors increase 
exponentially with more generations.


I would really like to be able to use the RC as I think the charts it 
produces would be very useful.  However, I can't trust the accuracy unless I 
proofread it in great detail.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN


I am again having relationship problems with the database.

Bad enough that the relationship that shows in Family View and o Pedigree
View are not the direct relationship but the closest relationship.  Many
agree with me that THAT should be the default or, at the VERY least, an
option!

However, I now have ancestors that are listed as NOT direct ancestors by
Relationship Setting or Calculating.
They are correctly shown as direct ancestors by Ancestor Colors and by
direct ancestor tagging.

I have a 29th GGF and GGM who had two children.  One is shown as 28th GGM,
but her full brother is shown as 28th GGU and his wife as Wife of 28th 
GGU.
Right clicking on the + next to the Relationship to see other 
relationships
does not list as another relationship the fact that they are my 28th GGF 
and

29th GGM.  And, all their descendants are incorrectly calculated by
Relationship Calculator!

I have my Relationship Calculator set to find the closest 20 relationships
and closest 2 paths, as Brian had me do when I last had this problem.

It must be a bug if Ancestor Colors and Ancestor Tagging can make them
direct ancestors but Relationship Calculator cannot.

Anyone help?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See

2009-08-03 Thread John S. Adams
One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all 
individuals in you file.  This will sort everyone by birth date.  You can 
save a PDF of this report have it on hand to refer to at any time.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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CE,
Secondary sorting in the index does not sort the DB by birth date. It
sorts on names (or RIN) first. I would like to see sorting on birth
date completely independent of the name. Take a look at Rebecca's
example.  Sorting the index on another field should not pose a problem
for the programmers.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See

2009-08-03 Thread John S. Adams

Mary,
If you look carefully at the Calendar List, you will see that, within each 
date, the names are sorted by birth year.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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2009/8/3 John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com:

One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all
individuals in you file. This will sort everyone by birth date.

Unfortunately, there is no sort order within each birth date, so it's
near-impossible to spot matches in a large data set.
Mary Young






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Re: [LegacyUG] Magically Appearing Unknown Spouses and Parents

2009-07-21 Thread John S. Adams

Hear! Hear!, Ron.

One thing I have noticed with Legacy over the years, is the increasing 
complexity of the program.  When I first bought Legacy, about version 4.0, 
or so, I was fairly new to genealogy and genealogy programs.  The things 
that most appealed to me were the reviews and user testimonials that 
classified Legacy as user friendly, intuitive, and with a short learning 
curve.


Now, some of the most common complaints are that it is too complicated, or 
that some features are too confusing (e.g., the Picture Center), or that 
access to some options aren't intuitive, or that the learning curve is too 
steep.  For myself, there are many feature which, although they appear to be 
very useful, I don't use or bother to learn because it takes too long to 
become comfortable with them.


I understand that all these bells and whistles have been added in response 
to user demands and for competitive reasons; and that many have been 
add-ons rather than integrated into a comprehensive program because 
extensive re-programming might affect long time users' saved user files, 
reports, formatting, events, charts, etc., etc.  The result may be that 
Legacy, as well as other genealogy and office utility programs caught in 
this competitive vicious cycle, will sink under its own weight.  New 
programs which are designed from scratch to include the features which we 
now take for granted or can't live without and are more intuitive and 
user friendly because of that design, will take over the market and the 
dinosaurs will sink into the tar.


The temptation is to say , I like Legacy 7 (or 6 or 5) so I will stick with 
it.  But when Version 8 or 9, comes out with new innovative and flashy 
features, can we resist upgrading?


I'm certainly glad I'm not a software programmer or marketing director.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Let us be perfectly clear as to what Legacy is. It is a genealogy database 
with some facilities for producing reports and webpages. It is not, and I 
hope never will be, a full blown word processing package or desktop 
publishing software.

.


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[LegacyUG] Another backup problem

2009-07-14 Thread John S. Adams
I have Legacy 7.0.0.97 Deluxe, Win XP, 1 Gb RAM, 250 Gb hard drive.  I have 
Reminder to make a backup when exiting Legacy checked.  When I close 
Legacy by using the program Exit icon or clicking Exit on the File 
drop down menu, I get the Are you sure you want to exit Legacy? message. 
If I check Yes, I get the backup reminder.  However, if Legacy is open 
when I turn off the computer using the windows icon, I get the Are you 
sure... message.  If I check Yes, Legacy closes immediately and does not 
display the backup reminder.


If I backup my file using the Backup Family File command on the File 
dropdown menu, it backs up correctly.  If I then close the computer using 
the Windows mandated procedure, THEN I get the backup reminder, even though 
I just backed it up.


Annoying.  Does anyone have any thoughts?

Any help appreciated.

John S. Adams
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Re: [LegacyUG] Another backup problem

2009-07-14 Thread John S. Adams

Ron Ferguson wrote:
Legacy will only ask if you wish to back-up if you have changed the file 
during the session. If no changes have been made then you will not be 
asked.


Yes, I made sure to make at least a minor change each time I tested the 
various shut down procedures.


Jenny Benson wrote:
My only thought is that I would always close all programs down correctly 
before shutting down the computer, if at all possible.  Lots of programs 
do things (delete temporary files, etc) when they are closed down and 
should be given the opportunity to do so.


Gary Templeman wrote:

I will second Jenny's suggestion.


I had thought of this, but I have always thought that one purpose of the 
Windows correct turn off procedure, i.e. using the Turn Off Computer 
button, was so that Windows could insure that all open programs were exited 
correctly, and also to save time and mouse clicks required to exit multiple 
programs.  The fact that I get Are you sure you want to exit Legacy led me 
to believe that using the Windows procedure to exit was O.K.


Thanks for all the responses.  I will try changing my habits and close all 
programs before turning the computer off.


Thanks,
John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Another backup problem

2009-07-14 Thread John S. Adams

Thanks, Ron

John S. Adams
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John,

I have just recalled that a while back I think I read that if Legacy was 
shut down from the windows Task Bar then the option to create a back-up 
was not offered.




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Re: [LegacyUG] OverWriting

2009-07-13 Thread John S. Adams

David,
When you get the Backup screen upon closing Legacy, you will see in the top 
half of the screen a bar labeled Select Name and Location for Data Backup. 
If you press that bar, a screen will open which allows you to enter any file 
name you wish.  If you haven't done so in the past, Legacy will 
automatically give it the same name as your family file.


Directly underneath the selection bar is a line that says something like 
Currently:   C:\Legacy\BACKUP\DavesFamily.zip.  If you don't select a new 
name for the file, you will get the pop-up alert that says, Backup Data 
Files - File Already Exists and below that, 
C:\Legacy\BACKUP\DavesFamily.zip already exists.  Overwrite existing file? 
If you select Yes, your backup will be saved with the same name, but the 
last backup you made will be overwritten (destroyed).  You haven't lost any 
data, but will only have one backup--your latest.


The reason you get the message about not finding any multimedia files, is 
probably because you don't have any.  In the lower half of the Customize 
Backup screen, just above the Multimedia selection bar, is a check box 
labeled Multimedia Files.  It is probably checked.  Uncheck it and you won't 
get the message again.


If you want Legacy to automatically change the name of the backup file each 
time you backup, click on Options at the bottom of the screen.  You can 
select to append the date, time or both to the file name.  This will 
automatically give a different name to each backup you make and allow to see 
at a glance when it was made.  You won't get the overwrite message because 
a new file is created and your old backup files are retained.  The 
disadvantage to this is that, unless you regularly delete old backup files, 
you end up with dozens of old backups.  I just looked at mine and had over 
30, each of about 8 megabytes.


To look at your backup files, go to My ComputerC: driveLegacyBackup.

All of this reminds me that I have a problem with Backup which I will ask 
about in a later post.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

P.S.  David, this forum is a sanctuary for the stupid and depressed. 
Welcome to the club.

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OverWriting


Patti Wyble wrote:
It sounds like you overwrote your new database with your older one? Have 
you tried opening the database from each location? (Close any Legacy 
database you have open and double click the file from inside the folder 
to make sure you're looking at the right one.) I would have thought it 
would ask to confirm overwriting your new file onto the flash drive, so 
please double check that.


When Legacy closes, it asks if you want to make a backup. When is the 
last time you did so?


-Patti




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From: David MacDiarmid david.macdiar...@snp.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:47:03 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] OverWriting

Hi,I put myself in a very Depressing situation last night.Not being too 
computer literate i thought it best to download all my Legacy info onto 
my flash drive,(not used since Nov 2008).I got to a point in my attempt 
to do this,flashdrive plugged in etc' i was asked the question do you 
want to overwrite and i pressed yes or something.The flashdrive has now 
taken all my Legacy History back to Nov 2008 Can anyone helpme ,i feel 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Questionnaires

2009-06-18 Thread John S. Adams
SourceWriter use Interviews and change the wording (e.g., Interviewee 
to Respondent) to suit you.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing Questionnaires


I have a number of questionnaires that I have received back from family
members. Any ideas on how to cite them using either source writer or the 
old

format?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts

2009-06-14 Thread John S. Adams

Veronica,
You could create such a chart by printing out two descendant charts and 
cutting  pasting the paper.  And you wouldn't have to do much, if any, 
cutting, if you judicially arranged the individual boxes.  However, I can't 
think of any way to create a single computer file that merges the two.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts



Hi everyone,



I'm a relatively new user of Legacy Family Tree v7.0 and I have a query in 
regards to charting. What I am trying to do essentially is create a 
standard descendant chart but with two groups of descendants merged on the 
one chart - that is, I am trying to get the descendants of both of my 
grandparents on the same chart, where the common link is the marriage of 
my parents. I can create the separate charts for each set of my 
grandparents easily enough but I can't seem to combine them together, by 
copying/pasting or otherwise.




Does anyone have any tips on how I can achieve this, or if it is even 
achievable in Legacy Charting v7.0?




Thanks in advance.



Veronica.

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Re: [LegacyUG] citing US genweb

2009-06-05 Thread John S. Adams

Linda,

I use the InternetWebsite, generic template.

For the Master Source, I entered the following:

Source List Name:  USGenWeb
Website Title:  The USGenWeb Project
URL:  http://www.usgenweb.org/

I left the other fields blank, but you could add more info to make the 
result to your liking.


For the Source Detail, I enter:

Date Accessed:  [date]
Item of Interest:  ILGenWebDekalb CountyCemetery InformationKingston 
CemeteryHarper
Actual Source Text:  Harper, Jerome; B5, 10 Sep 1828, 23 Dec 1893 [although 
I choose not to print this out in reports]


The resultant citation looks like this:
*The USGenWeb Project* (http://www.usgenweb.org/: accessed 23 Aug 2008), 
ILGenWebDekalb CountyCemetery InformationKingston CemeteryHarper


[*...* signifies italics]

You can, of course, play around with the entries until you get a citation 
that you like.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA


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Subject: [LegacyUG] citing US genweb


I am braving the wrath of certain individuals on this list, hoping that I
have my ducks in a row and won't offend anyone with my question. I have 
used
plain text and have searched the archives for a suitable answer but not 
sure

I have entered the right search terms.

I would like to know if I can use Sourcewriter for citing the US genweb 
(or

world genweb). It is so useful for research, but I don't know how to cite
it.  Do I use internet? and if so, where do I go from there?

In my old sources, I have used Genweb, United States, with (for instance)
Kansas, Ford County, Newspaper articles (accessed 30 Jun 2003) in the 
detail

and then citing the article I read.  But I don't like the way it looks,
especially with the professional looking Sourcewriter citations.  Does
anyone else use information from GenWeb as a source when using 
Sourcewriter.



Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Reports and Books

2009-06-05 Thread John S. Adams
Look at ReportsPublishing Center, where you can combine any Books with any 
Reports.


John S. Adams
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Can one make a report and add it somehow to a book?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Book Results and possible Bug

2009-06-05 Thread John S. Adams

Nina,


One picture is listed twice in the Attached Pictures section in the
middle/lower section of the Picture Center.  How do you delete the 
duplicate
picture? It's in the events section of the person.  It doesn't delete 
when

I try to do it.


Can't give you any help on the Picture Center.  I don't have much experience 
there.


I think I probably am expecting too much from the Legacy program and 
should
just be satisfied with the stock pages as Title Page which I would like 
to

separate to be on more lines or even add a picture on the title page.  Not
really needed . . . I'll just shorten the title!!! And be satisfied!


I'm not sure what you want here.  However, there are 4 lines on the Title 
Page for the Descendant or Ancestor Reports and I have been able to enter 
100 characters on each line.  How much info to you need to put in the title?


You can certainly put a picture on the Title Page.  Click on Title Page and 
on the screen that comes up, click Include Picture on the left side.


Someone pointed out that LUG rules discourage file attachments.  How 
should

I be doing this


Just don't add an attachment to your e-mail.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA


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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple lines of descent report

2009-05-28 Thread John S. Adams

Jim,
Using [CoupleNames] works for me.  But if you want to have the title include 
the phrase including associated families of , I guess you'll have to enter 
it manually.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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Thanks for the shout Valerie.  I had found all those reserved words to 
customize the various fields, but what I was thinking that there might be 
a setting somewhere to auto title the report with each of the couples 
names that are the basis for the multiple lines.  Guess not so, I'll 
just not be so lazy and type in the various couples names.

thanks again,  Jim


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Of Jimquist
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Multiple lines of descent report

Shouldn't the Title Page indicate the multiple lines covered in the 
report

instead of reading just Descendants of Joe Blow.
Seems like the Title Page might read:
Descendants of Joe Blow and Juli Jones
including associated families of Jim Smith and Lucy Crow; Dale Dunn and
Mini Mouse
I don't find a way to have the program do this automatically, so am 
either

missing something or it wasn't intended to operate in this manner.  If I
type it in on the set up page for the title page, it will work.
Am I a bit off-base in my thinking?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Reports - Ancestor or Descendant Reports - Paternal Or Maternal Side Only

2009-05-20 Thread John S. Adams
1.  Just select the father (or the mother) of the starting person and create 
the report for him, or
2.  Export the paternal line or maternal line to a new file and create the 
report from there.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Paternal Or Maternal Side Only


Is there a way to have Legacy 7 produce ancestor or descendant reports 
(not

charts), for only the paternal or maternal side of the starting person on
the report? When I click on the record selection button I do not see any
option to select a particular family line.

Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] A SourceWriter Question, and follow-up on the AKA problem

2009-05-15 Thread John S. Adams
I would use the Directories template in SourceWriter.  You can select 
Online images or Online database, as appropriate.


Hope this helps,
John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Me being the stickler for accuracy that I am, I have a question as to how 
to source this one.


My ancestors' Centre County, Pennsylvania 1890 census was destroyed, like 
most of the 1890 census. However, there is a surviving Postal Directory, 
which is available online, and is an attempt to reconstruct the 1890 
census for that county.


My question is: how do I record the source? It's not the census itself, 
it's a directory. But it represents the census in this case, with much of 
the same information as the census.


Referring back to my AKA problem (remember, my nicknames in quotes in the 
given name field somehow magically transferred to the AKA field): I found 
that it happened with all four of my files, but since my files are so 
small, I was able to make the corrections individually. So thank you to 
Dennis K. for the offer to check the file.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheet Error - Calculated Date Terminology

2009-04-28 Thread John S. Adams

Ron,
It appears you are right IF you have set the program language option to 
English (UK), i.e., English English.  However, try changing the language 
setting on the report screen to English (US).  For me at least, this then 
causes cal to be displayed as Ber.  In other words, if the program 
option is set to one version of English, but the language option for a 
report is set for a different version, the Ber anomaly seems to appear. 
The same thing seems to happen with abt and cir for approximate dates. 
I guess this doesn't apply to Book Reports as I don't see anyplace to change 
the language settings for them.


John S. Adams
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John,

I can assure you that in English English Cal is reproduced as Cal - at 
least on my set up.




Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheet Error - Calculated Date Terminology

2009-04-27 Thread John S. Adams

Kay,
Could the Report Language on the FGR screen be set to something other than 
U.S. English?  If you are using Australian, Canadian or UK English, cal is 
rendered as ber.  Why, I have no idea.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Terminology



Ron -

Yes, I checked the Prefixes mentioned below. Calculated shows correctly 
as cal. I'll try to investigate further later today to see if I may have 
done something weird that would affect the output.


Thanks,
Kay

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Terminology




Kay,

I cannot see how it can be due to Legacy7 or we would all have the sme 
problem, and this one seems to be limited to your files.


Have you checked the Prefixes in OptionsCustomiseDates? Although if 
these were incorrect I would have expected them to affect all instances.




Ron Ferguson

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheet Error - Calculated Date 
Terminology

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:13:51 -0700

Connie -

The strange thing about this is that calculated dates show correctly as 
cal

3 April 1849 on all reports except the FGS. Every individual with a
calculated date shows ber instead of cal on the FGS. I've not seen 
this

problem before Version 7. Not sure if it commenced with Version 7 or the
newest build. Immediately did a check and repair and reboot - the glitch 
is

still there.

Thanks,
Kay

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheet Error - Calculated Date
Terminology




Kay,

I'm using the same build as you, and on my one example entered since
installing this build, it shows properly on Print Preview of an FGS as 
cal

not ber (also a calculated birth).

Connie


Kay Fordham wrote:


Using 7.0.0.90
Build Date of: 13 March 2009

When I use the calendar feature to calculate a date (in
this case birth), it shows properly as cal 3 April
1849 in the Family View; however, in the print preview
and printed copy it shows up as ber 3 April
1849. No problem with the others; i.e., bef, abt, aft.
Can anyone else duplicate this anomaly?

Thanks, Kay Fordham



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Re: [LegacyUG] Starting Master Source List

2009-04-23 Thread John S. Adams

Howland,
Double click the Sources icon (pic of books), either from the tool bar at 
the top of the Legacy screen, or from the Family View tool bar directly 
below individual data for the person you want to source.  A list of your 
Master Sources will open.  If you have not recorded any sources, it will be 
blank.  On the upper right is a column of buttons.  The 3rd one down is 
labeled Add.  Click on it.  A screen will open asking if you want to use 
SourceWriter.  Click Yes and a menu of available template types will open. 
If you don't see one on the list that seems appropriate, enter a keyword in 
the field at the very top (e.g., Obituary) and click on the Search 
button.  A list of templates which might fill you needs will open.  Choose 
one and following the prompts.


If this isn't clear, please ask again.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Kirsten:

??? Thank you for your response.
??? That would work perfectly I would think.? But as a beginner on 
sourcing, how to I get there?? Do I type in Family Group Sheet  Privately 
Held? to start or does some sort of template drop down; one that I have 
been unable to find so far?


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Re: [LegacyUG] A book including everyone in my data base

2009-04-10 Thread John S. Adams

June,
I haven't seen a response to your query.  Perhaps because it isn't entirely 
clear what you are asking for.  Do you want one of the standard book reports 
which includes everyone in your data base?  Or a listing of everyone?  The 
only way I can think of to include everyone without a huge amount of 
duplication, is to open the Name List and customize the columns to include 
the information you want.  You can show the relationship of each person to 
your son if you wish.  However, this list will be in alphabetical or RIN 
order, and may not be what you want.  If your data base is relatively small 
(maybe a couple of hundred names), one of the book reports might work for 
you.  Please clarify what you are looking for.  I'm sure someone on the list 
will be able to help.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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I would like to produce a book which includes everyone from my son down
regardless of the connection. So far the only one I have been able to
produce seems to limit the people who are included.



Could someone please advise if this is possible.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source and event for passenger lists?

2009-02-26 Thread John S. Adams
I use the Travel event for this--I believe it is a Legacy-provided event, 
but if not, you can create one.  There is a Passenger Manifest source 
template (Immigration  EmigrationUnited StatesPassenger Manifests) which 
works well for this and doesn't necessarily imply immigration.  Even though 
it is reached by selecting United States, I see nothing in the template 
format which would exclude records from other countries.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Hi,
I have a group of 4 people that I found on the New York Passenger
Lists, 1820-1957 who arrived on Pan American Airways returning from
Bermuda.  When I start to set-up a Master Source I don't see anything
for traveling or passengers or tourists.  The closest I see is for
immigration and they were not immigrating but returning from a vacation.
How should I set-up the Master Source for this?

How should I define this in the Events?  I don't see any templates for
traveling there either.

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors

2009-02-20 Thread John S. Adams
I tried this and the first thing I noticed was no ADAMS, my primary line, in 
the list.  When I went to Asahel ADAMS, my earliest ancestor, on the Family 
View screen, the parents block was empty.  I then selected Asahel's son Asa, 
my next earliest direct line ancestor.  With Asa as the primary person, 
Asahel appears in the parents block with a + at the left of his name. 
This indicates that there is a parent in the database for Asahel.  When I 
moved Asahel into the primary location, I noticed that the icon for parents 
was colored in and indicated 1 set of parents.  When I clicked on it, the 
pop-up screen showed parents unknown  unknown.  At the bottom of that 
pop-up is a button labeled Unlink from Child.  Selecting that deleted the 
unknown parents.  I ran the find direct line ancestors with no parents 
routine again and the resulting list correctly showed Asahel ADAMS.


I'm not sure how the unknown parents got attached to Asahel, but this may be 
your problem.  Check the parents icon on your earliest ancestors.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From Legacy News:

End-of-line ancestors. We all have them. We think about them. We study
them. We even dream about them. Once we find their parents, we do a
quick Genealogy Happy Dance, and then it starts over again - we now
have new end-of-line ancestors.

Who are your end-of-line ancestors? Let Legacy Family Tree identify
them for you using one of the two following methods.

Special Search List

First, in the Family View, navigate to yourself.
Click on Search  Find  Miscellaneous tab.
Select the Direct-line ancestors with no parents option and click on
Create List.


WELL - I did this - and quite a few of my End-of-line Ancestors ARE
NOT IN THE LIST!!  There is NO McKain!!  NO Horn (my maternal
Grandfather).  Apparently this was a good idea - gone wrong!  Ideas??

Keith


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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-16 Thread John S. Adams
Why have you been forced to become a splitter?  I'm a lumper (for 
Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source for each US census year 
and I use the Sourcewriter.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

I used to be a die hard lumper.  I only had one source for the 1900 census 
(for example).  However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to 
become a splitter :) :) :)  Here is what my source list looks like...


Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880
Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900
Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave)
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality)
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave)
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810

This of course is just a small snippet.  I have them organized this way so 
that I can find my master source quickly.


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Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM
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Michele --- I have a question for you.  I know this has been addressed on
this list before -- so sorry for asking again.

But I too transcribe census records as you do.  How do you list them in 
your
master source list?  Do you list each census seperately or put all the 
1900

Census records under a 1900 census listing?

Thanks for your input!
Tamie


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Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I 
really

pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship
etc)

Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)...

Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born 
in

GA
Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write
Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS
Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS
Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS
Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS
Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS
Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS


Or a later census (1930)...
Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42,
married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both
parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule
Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, 
able

to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English
Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write,
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, 
logging

[2nd word unreadable]
Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write,
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm
Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this
year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, 
speaks

English
Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended 
school

this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS,
speaks English
Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents
born in MS, speaks English
Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents
born in MS, speaks English


I copy the event and add it to each person listed.  When you run a 
report

it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice
progression of what happened in their life.  They start out living with
their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then
sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life.  You don't 
see

it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census.

It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort.  Another 
thing,
as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking 
at
transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again 
and

have to re-analyze it.  Or course if there is ever a question I can pull
the census page up easily.

Michele

Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-16 Thread John S. Adams
I don't enter county and state in the Master source--leave'em blank.  In the 
Detail Source, where it asks for Jurisdiction City (which I think is 
incorrect--cities don't have jurisdiction over census operations), I enter 
City/Township/County.  Works great.


You have to be flexible with Sourcewriter.  Don't let it intimidate you. 
Play around with it to see how entering different data in the available 
fields will affect the output.  Many ways to skin a cat (or template).


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


Because it asks for the county and state?

michele

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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Why have you been forced to become a splitter?  I'm a lumper (for
Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source for each US census 
year

and I use the Sourcewriter.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

--
From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

I used to be a die hard lumper.  I only had one source for the 1900 
census

(for example).  However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to
become a splitter :) :) :)  Here is what my source list looks like...

Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880
Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900
Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave)
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality)
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave)
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810

This of course is just a small snippet.  I have them organized this way 
so

that I can find my master source quickly.

- Original Message - 
From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


Michele --- I have a question for you.  I know this has been addressed 
on

this list before -- so sorry for asking again.

But I too transcribe census records as you do.  How do you list them in
your
master source list?  Do you list each census seperately or put all the
1900
Census records under a 1900 census listing?

Thanks for your input!
Tamie


- Original Message - 
From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I
really
pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a 
relationship

etc)

Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)...

Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born
in
GA
Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write
Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS
Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS
Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS
Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS
Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS
Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS


Or a later census (1930)...
Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42,
married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both
parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule
Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18,
able
to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English
Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and 
write,

born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer,
logging
[2nd word unreadable]
Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write,
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm
Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this
year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS,
speaks
English
Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended
school
this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born

Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Picture

2009-02-16 Thread John S. Adams

Kris,
You don't need to print your pictures out from Legacy.  Open the picture in 
a photo program and print it out there.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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I want to make a print of a JPG that I have attached to source detail. 
When I click on it, the only way I can see to print it is Print Picture 
Album.  This is fine -- it's the only picture there.


I've been able to get rid of the border lines and the page number at the 
bottom, but I can't figure out where the title Report at the top of the 
page is coming from.  How do I get rid of it?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tracking Individuals

2009-02-15 Thread John S. Adams
When I run across individuals or families who appear to be connected to my 
family, I enter them into Legacy as Unlinked Individuals.  I then add BDM 
and event information as I find it, just as I would for a linked person. 
Then, if I find that they are related to the main line, I have all the data 
available and I can just link them in.  I presently have 21 island trees 
containing from 1 to 46 people.


The idea of entering them into a ToDo list to keep track of them is good; I 
may have to try that, as I am chronically disorganized.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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Thanks, Jenny - your idea is a good way to keep track of these people!!  I 
appreciate your response.


Judy





Judy wrote
I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate 
knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not 
be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so.



Jenny wrote:

But it occurs  to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something 
like Other

People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task
Description as one comes across them.  If one inserted each name in
alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list
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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-15 Thread John S. Adams

What error?  What child?  What correct designation?

John S. Adams
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Actually, the error occurs when the couple involved are the biological 
parents of the child.  Only if one of them were a step-parent and not the 
biological parent of the child should the spouse be called husband or wife 
of the Grand Uncle or Grand Aunt rather than by the correct designation.


Carolyn
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LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships


 I believe that is worded that way is because the Grand Uncle is the 
person related by blood.  If the aunt were the one related by blood, it 
would be worded Grand Aunt and the husband would be husband of Grand Aunt.

 My 2 cents
 Mary
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   I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind,
you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be
Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle.

  Just 2 cents,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-14 Thread John S. Adams
I think the Relationship Calculator is, in theory, a great tool.  I really 
like the charts it produces showing the relationships of distant cousins. 
HOWEVER, I have almost stopped using it because it is so rife with errors 
and has been from at least Legacy 5.0.  The most obvious is that, with some 
multiple relationships, if you click the Swap button, different 
relationships are displayed, which is wrong.  Less obvious problems can be 
found if one traces relationships by hand and then uses the calculator.  I 
found one case where a generation was skipped.  The problems are 
ongoing--Legacy has solved some, but others persist.  Every time I look at 
it and try different relationships, I find more problems.  There was a 
thread on this subject in Aug 2006.  Some of the problems discussed then 
involved 1/2 relationships and some of those have been fixed, but I can 
still produce at least one.


I hope that Legacy can do a thorough redesign of the RC soon and it becomes 
a reliable tool.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Unfortunately, this is not the case.  Direct ancestors are not being 
identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF.  His mother is shown as my 24th 
GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship 
Calculator says there is no relationship between father and son, between 
mother and son, or between husband and wife!


And that's just one of the messed up ones.  It also happens as close as my 
6th GGParents!


Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with 
incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug.


Carolyn 





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Re: [LegacyUG] travel vs emigration

2009-02-13 Thread John S. Adams
I think the Immigration/Emigration events would be used when an individual 
changed his permanent residence from one country to another, regardless of 
whether he changed citizenship.  I would record a return visit to his native 
country as a Travel event, unless he stayed there permanently, in which 
case, it would be another Immigration or Emigration event.


John S. Adams
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Subject: [LegacyUG] travel vs emigration


Hello listers,

I have several people who have left Belgium for the US in the early 1900s. 
For those that I know to have stayed/died in the US, I have used event 
Emigration (mostly for their first travel, if other info is missing). For 
those who have come back/died in Belgium, I've used event Travel. Howeevr, 
I realised that I haven't used this consistently, and maybe not even 
correctly.


When is a person considered emigrated? When they first entered the 
country, or when they requested nationality, or when they received it? We 
can have people travelling a few times and then emigrated. We could also 
have people who have traveled after they emigrated...


I'd be interested to know how other people record those situation? I am 
just starting now to look across the pond and I definitely don't want to 
have to go back and redo ever single event...


thanks in advance for your advise/experience,
nina






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Re: [LegacyUG] How to identify the commonly used first name?

2009-02-08 Thread John S. Adams
I think you also have to check the Alternate given and surnames box in the 
upper left corner of the Include tab under Report Options.
(If alternate names aren't included in the report, they obviously won't be 
in the Index.)


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Nope!

Ruth
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 They don't if you check the checkbox located in Index Options?

 Bert 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View Enhancement

2009-02-01 Thread John S. Adams
The current 5 generation Pedigree View shows 16 names in the last 
generation.  If I reduce the screen to half size on my 19 monitor, I can 
just barely read the names.  The 16 lines cover about 6 vertical inches.  10 
generations would have 512 names in the last generation, so I would need a 
screen about 16 FEET high in order to read the names.  12 generations, 2048 
names, 64 foot high screen.  Don't have room in my den for a billboard. 
Eight generations might be doable if I had 97 monitor.  That might take up 
only one wall.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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My thought would be user selectable number of generations. I currently use 
5

with 1/2 of my screen. Once could select 6, 8, 10 or 12 depending on need
...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON


From: couim...@cogeco.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View Enhancement
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:09:27 -0500


How about 6-8?


C.G. Ouimet
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Re: [LegacyUG] My surnames / A selfish search

2009-01-21 Thread John S. Adams
Or, create an Ancestor Book Report for youself, including an index; 
customize the index to include Birth  Death Years on Names.  From the 
Preview screen, print out just the Index.  This should give you exactly what 
you want.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] My surnames / A selfish search


On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:00:35 -0700, Arnold Sprague
aspra...@chicagogsb.edu wrote:


I would like to be able to do a search within Legacy of all the
surnames my ancestors have. At a certain point, it becomes impossible
to remember them all.


How about this:

1) Clear a tag.
2) Select yourself and then tag all your ancestors using Advanced
  Tagging.
3) Then do a Detailed Search for everyone with the tag on.
4) Once you get the Search List, click Print and customize the output
  with the fields you want to see.

HTH,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sibling relationships

2009-01-06 Thread John S. Adams
Because it is much, much, much easier to modify your e-mail environment than 
to control the behavior of hundreds of strangers.


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Why is the solution always something other than simply following the list
rules?   Every time someone raises the issue of list rules being broken, 
the

discussion quickly turns to something everyone else on the list can do to
cope with it.   And usually the person raising the issue becomes the
villain.   The list has rules for a reason.   We all agreed to follow 
them.








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Re: [LegacyUG] BOOK

2009-01-06 Thread John S. Adams

Huh?

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Where do I find information to help me do this .  . . preview, etc.  I've
looked at all the tapes in Legacy 7 Deluxe.

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[LegacyUG] Report Problems

2008-12-08 Thread John S. Adams
I have been playing around with Individual Reports and Family Reports in 
preparation for sending some info to a group of new found cousins and 
discovered the following problems:


1.  Indiv Rpt:
Whether or not any notes are checked on the Include tab, Marriage Notes 
show up
If Show other spouses is checked, Marriage Notes for all spouses are 
displayed
The Marriage Notes choices are greyed out, as I think they should be--but 
the notes should not be included in an Individual Report


2.  Family Group Record
The Marriage Notes perform as expected--no apparent problem
If General, Research, or Medical Notes are selected, they appear as 
follows:

   General Notes:  Husband - Esther Lee
   General Notes:  Wife - Esther Lee
Can't get the husband's name to display for notes.

I have only viewed in Preview, have not printed.

I have version 7.0.0.76 Deluxe; XP, 1 Gb RAM.

Anyone else experience these problems?

John S. Adams
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Re: [LegacyUG] Latest Update (7.0.0.76)

2008-12-04 Thread John S. Adams

No you don't.  Go to CustomizeSourcesSource Detail Defaults

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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I have just discovered that I have to edit every single source citation 
individually to select include on reports every time on the text of source 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

2008-12-03 Thread John S. Adams

Elizabeth,
As I usually select Pack information on one line for Descendant Charts, I 
have not encountered this problem.  I unchecked that box and still didn't 
see the gap.  Then I noticed that you had marriage info displayed and I 
didn't.  When I included marriage, the gap showed up.  It looks like a 
buglet.  The program has left a space for marriage info between the 
husband's b. and d. info.  Don't think you can delete it on screen.  If you 
are going to print it as a text or HTML doc, you would have to edit out the 
gaps.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

Yes, certainly the gap is useful between husband and wife, it is the gap 
between birth and death - now marked with Xs - that I don't want.

Elizabeth

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Hope Bagot Bees
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is an example of the preview of a Descendant chart in Legacy.   I
understand the gap between his death date and his wife's name is for
clarity, but how can I remove the line gap between born date and died
date for Charles, please?

Charles Berjew Brooke J.P. [29]
born: 5 May 1839, 13 Gilbert Street, Grosvenor Sq. Middlx
XX
died: 10 Aug 1922, Brantham, Suffolk

+ Jane ROBINSON [30]
born: 2 Feb 1840, Liverpool
marr: 24 Jun 1862, Lee Chapel, Lee, Kent
died: 27 Jun 1891, Highbury, Middlesex






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Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?

2008-11-24 Thread John S. Adams
British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between 
areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, 
or even the Russians.  Even the borders and names of the British Colonies 
changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey.  Very 
confusing.  I haven't been consistent.  I think I'll have to add a North 
American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy 
library.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA


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I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh 
North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter 
the location as USA.
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Re: [LegacyUG] copy master sources to new family file

2008-10-28 Thread John S. Adams

Joan,
I add unconnected people to my main file as New Unlinked Individuals with 
all the info I have on them and Sources.  If I find others who are related 
to them but not to my main tree, I link them also.  They will appear as a 
separate tree which you can view by selecting ViewTree Finder.  When or if 
you do find a link to your main tree, it is simple to link them and all the 
data and sources you've entered will be there.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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Subject: [LegacyUG] copy master sources to new family file

I have a bunch of people that are involved in my current research. I don't 
know yet how they all connect so can't really put them in my tree. However 
I have a lot of data about them and would like to put them somewhere. 
Someone suggested I start a new family file of just these people and then 
connect them when I can. As these people come from the same area as my 
already connected people, I would like to copy all my master sources to 
the new file so I don't have to re-enter them again. I can't figure out 
how to do that.


BTW - is starting a separate family file the way you all deal with 
unconnected people too? Do you have any other suggestions??


Joan


Researching BOND and CASHIN in Port Felix Nova Scotia.
Researching BROWN and LAFORET in Boston Mass.
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

2008-10-19 Thread John S. Adams

Kris,
I just tried sourcing the relationship of an individual to his father.  Here 
is how I went about it.


1.  Select the father on the Family View screen.
2.  Right click on the Children's list.
3.  Select Children's Settings.
4.  Select the child you wish to source.
5.  In the Relationship to Father field, select the relationship 
(Biological, Adopted, etc) OR leave it blank.

6.  Click on the Source icon on the left of the screen.
7.  You will be taken to the Assigned Sources for:  Charles L. ADAMS 
screen.

8.  Make sure the Show all Events box on the left side is checked.
9.  Highlight the Father Rel: field.  You may have to scroll down to find 
this field.

10.  Click on Cite a Master Source button and enter your source.

When you choose a Report, make sure you have checked the Child-parent 
relationships box on the Include tab and the Print source citations on 
the Sources tab.


I looked at the Individual Report, Family Group Record, and the father's 
Descendant Book Report.  The child-parent relationship and correct source 
were displayed.  I haven't looked at other reports.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.
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Well, we must both be muddy the same way, 'cause this makes perfect 
sense to me.  Thank you!  :-)


Kris

Jessica Morgan wrote:

After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
definately no right or wrong way.

Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

Clear as mudd?

Jessica Morgan


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wrote:

Hi, Ron --

Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one seems 
to

understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are 
linked
through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for this in 
the

*mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, I source the
child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in the *child's*
information screen -- but what about the parents' information screens?

I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the 
report

can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents through that
source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates?  And I'm using 
a
combination of other information and sources to determine that Baby Doe 
is

the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census
information that all points to this being the child of these parents, 
what
FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that this 
source,

or these sources, link these individuals that will also show up on an
ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father or mother
relationships in the Children's settings?

Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the 
child of
this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined that, I 
then
tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before I'm dead 
myself?


Kris



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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

2008-10-19 Thread John S. Adams

Sorry, it my last post
7.  You will be taken to the Assigned Sources for:  Charles L. ADAMS 
screen.

should read:
7.  You will be taken to the Assigned Sources for:  [child's name] 
screen.


Didn't intend to further confuse and already confusing subject.

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Hermosa Beach, CA 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with event wording

2008-09-29 Thread John S. Adams
I would use the Relocation event for moves within a country and the 
Emigration or Immigration events for moves from one country to another.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Relocation Event.   Relocated? John relocated from India to 
Scotland...


Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:41:55 -0500
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with event wording



Hello,



I'd like to create an event for when people move from one place to 
another, not just list their residence at a given date.  As I have it now, 
I am using the word 'moved' as an event name.  The word moved just doesn't 
see quite right--it doesn't flow very well.  I guess I could use removed 
or removal, but I had never heard that word until I started doing 
genealogy.  So far, the event reads as follows:





Moved: John moved from India to Scotland when he was 11 years old in 1877 
or 1878.




Any ideas?



Thanks,

Melanie Tucker






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Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens' place of birth on family view?

2008-08-23 Thread John S. Adams

Barb,
On the CustomizeGeneral tab, make sure you haven't checked the Never popup
Info Boxes box.  You should be able to hover your mouse cursor over the
child's name and see a popup box that displays his BMD data.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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On a family view, I can see the name of the children, the year of birth
and death and symbols to indicate if married, had children.  Is it
possible to set an option somewhere to see the place of birth as well?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names

2008-08-23 Thread John S. Adams

Bill,
It appears that you may not be checking the Addr for birth, chr, death,
bur., marr. box on the Report OptionsInclude tab for your report.

I enter the cemetery name in the Name field of the Burial Address and it
shows on the Individual Report as (for example):

Burial Date:  20 Jan 1979Place:  Whittier, CA
Addr:  Rose Hills Memorial Park

and in a book report as:

...was buried on 20 Jan 1979 in Whittier, CA (Rose Hills Memorial Park).

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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..Am interested in the best way to input cemetery names - considering
how they will be displayed in reports. The video “Legacy for Beginners”
(in “3- Basic Data Entry”) indicates that cemetery names should not be
included as the initial part of the entry in the “Buried ...in...” section
of the “Individual's Information” screen because of database sorting
problems. It doesn’t address the inclusion of the cemetery name at the end
of the entry but suggests that the proper location of the cemetery name is
in the “Burial Address” screen – that by inserting the actual name of the
cemetery in the name section of the “Burial Address” screen the cemetery
name will then be shown as part of burial entry on the Family View screen
and on reports. I don't find this to be the case and believe that what is
shown in the video is the leftover entry from previously demonstrating
what happens when the cemetery name is inserted as the initial
part of the burial location input on the “Individual's Information”
screen. Maybe I am doing something wroing but from my limited experience
in using the Legacy software, it appears that simply inserting the
cemetery name in the Burial Address screen doesn’t do the job.

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Re: [LegacyUG] less steps to make a back up?

2008-08-06 Thread John S. Adams

Windows already does this.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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One thing Legacy could add to make backups better is the option to 
automatically add the current date to the backup file name. Adding it 
manually is error prone and tedious.


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Re: [LegacyUG] less steps to make a back up?

2008-08-06 Thread John S. Adams
I'm sorry.  Didn't mean to imply that the date was part of the file name. 
But when you click the Select Name and Location bar, its easy to see 
the date of each backup in the Details view of your files.  Why should 
Legacy duplicate this?


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Not as part of the file name where it would be easy to see and prevent 
overwriting.


Jeff

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Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread John S. Adams
You probably clicked on the 3 bars of the Source Clipboard when attaching 
the source to the 1900 census event.  This is labelled, Add Clipboard 
Source to All Used Fields.  You should have clicked on the single bar, Add 
Clipboard Source to Current Field.  I've made this mistake enough times to 
be an expert at it.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a particular
individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source to each of 
about
15 events. I am manually removing it from each event (except the 1900 
census

event to which it belongs).



I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am not
aware?



Thanks for any input.



Janis Walker Gilmore





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Re: [LegacyUG] GPS Coordinates

2008-07-21 Thread John S. Adams

Cool, indeed, but can you make a phone call?

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

From: G Oliver
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Interesting that this topic has just now came up. Recently I purchased an 
ATT Blackjack II for $ another 2 year commitment.


The first thing that I did was install Pocket Genealogist, but only for 
reference as I am always afraid that I will mess something up when I merged 
with legacy. I really have not explored what PG can do with GPS.


What I was really interested in was getting the Internal GPS working and 
usable without spending any more money. So I went about searching for free 
programs and this is what I found.


1. To open up the GPS for other programs: 
http://www.myblackjack2.com/hacks-and-mods/modaco-gps-hack/


2. To start the GPS and provide coordinates etc. : 
http://www.smartphone-freeware.org/download/gps-test-1.04   /This may be all 
you want.


3. A freeware GPS program GPSVP: http://gpsvp.com/

I then loaded the GPSVP program with  GARMIN TOPO maps in my area. There is 
a freeware version that may work : http://www.ibycus.com/ibycustopo/


With these programs loaded I start the Gpstest program, it acts as a front 
end for the GPS. When it gets a fix, I then  start GPSVP.


Works like a charm. I can now lookup relatives take pictures, get exact 
coordinates, (save waypoints, tracks etc) and bring it all home to enter 
into Legacy using one little cellphone.


Cool.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cash entry files in SourceWriter

2008-06-29 Thread John S. Adams
Patti,
It appears you put GLO in the search field at the top of the Add a New 
Master Source screen in response to the question, What kind of source do you 
want to cite?  If instead, you use the menu below that and go to Land  
Property records, you can then select (1) Cash entry filesBasic format or 
(2) Land office records (U.S.) with appropriate medium (microfilm, online 
data base, etc).  If your file is a photocopy, option (1) will probably work 
for you.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA


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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:52 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Cash entry files in SourceWriter


I wanted to enter a cash entry land file that I got from the National  
Archives but I think are considered GLO records.  When I look at the  
drop-down menu for options to choose from for GLOLand  Property  
recordscash entry files, I see only options for CD/DVD databases or  
FHL.  Then under Land grants, I see Land  Property recordsland  
grantsstate land office records for public lands basic format.
That would seem right except that I didn't think they were state  
land offices.  I thought the land offices were under the jurisdiction  
of the federal government, not the state.Is there another way, I  
should be doing this?

Patti



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[LegacyUG] SourceWriter options

2008-06-29 Thread John S. Adams
I see a lot of questions to this group which indicate to me that many users are 
hung up on the literal titles of the various source templates.  After 
experimenting with SourceWriter for a while, it seems to me that it is quite 
flexible and that many templates can be adapted for sources other than those 
specified in their titles.  

Some examples:

1.  Some time ago someone noted that while there is a template for Birth 
Records index, there is none for Death Records index.  I used the Birth Records 
index template and just titled it California Death Index.  The printed 
citation reads just fine and doesn't reference birth anywhere.

2.  A request was made for a way to make a Master Source for an on-going 
correspondence and to cite an individual letter or e-mail in the Detail.  Since 
this is the way I like to source, (e.g. Master:  Smith Correspondence; Detail:  
e-mail to J. S. Adams dated 29 Jun 2008) I tried various approaches and found 
that by judicious use of the available fields I could produce acceptable 
citations (although perhaps not in strict accordance with Mills' examples) 
using either the single e-mail template or the Artifact template.  I think the 
Letters template could also work.

3.  A recent discussion concerned how to cite government employment records.  
There a several templates which could probably be adapted.  I tried the School 
Records template and that seemed as though it would work.  Other templates that 
might work are Insurance Company Records, Military RecordsPension Files, or 
Railroad Records.  

4.  Government Land Office Records.  See my posting today re:  Cash Entry Files.

I think the Artifact template could be adapted for any collection of documents, 
letters, photos, etc.

My point is that SourceWriter is flexible.  If you experiment, you can probably 
find a template that will work for that unique or unusual source you want to 
cite.  The title of the template usually doesn't show up in the printed 
citation.

I'd like to hear others' opinions on this.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options

2008-06-29 Thread John S. Adams
Patti,
I certainly agree that it is much easier to use a template designed for the 
particular source at hand.  But my point is, if the available templates don't 
seem to match, a little exploring and tweaking may produce acceptable results 
without adding interminably to the Legacy wish list.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA




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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:26 PM
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John, 


I think I realized that I probably could make other things work, but I also 
figured that if there was a template specifically designed for the particular 
information and format, I'd rather use that. Also, it usually helps to 
understand the thinking behind how certain options are chosen. (for example, it 
was helpful for me to understand that state land probably just meant the GLO 
office located in a particular state rather than a state government land 
office) So then rather than floundering around tweaking things and maybe using 
different options each time, I'd rather understand the logic behind the options 
available so that I can make the best use of the design of the SourceWriter.  I 
do have Evidence Explained and that helps immensely as to seeing the general 
categories and understanding the logic behind those categories.  Just as 
someone tried to enter an unidentified and undated newspaper into the newspaper 
selection rather than in to artifacts as EE shows. You're presented with 
options you don't know what to do with if you've not chosen the option that 
most closely aligns with EE and by extension Legacy SourceWriter.  It's much 
easier in the long run to understand and then choose the option designed for 
the specific purpose.


Patti






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Re: [LegacyUG] More basic questions

2008-06-28 Thread John S. Adams
Trippsibs5 wrote
A tip from this LUG was to add the Individual Report icon to the Main 
(icon) toolbar. With one click, you can see how any individual event 
(but not marriage events) looks in a report before you add 20 more and 
decide Oh, that's not what I wanted.

Or add the Family Group Report icon instead of the Indiv Rpt to also get the 
marriage events.

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Re: [LegacyUG] More very very newbie questions

2008-06-25 Thread John S. Adams
Question 2., below:  You can put anything you want or leave it blank.  Look at 
the area at the bottom of the Event screen.  As you type in the data fields, 
the wording that will appear on your reports is displayed.  As you enter into 
the Description field, if you don't like the way the sentence looks, change the 
wording.  You can globally change the way an Event is worded by clicking on the 
Edit Event Sentence Definition button or change the wording for just the one 
event you are working on by clicking on the Sentence Override tab above the 
Notes box.
For example, I enter something like, in the household of Samuel Jones in the 
Description field.  This will print out in a report as:  
He appeared in the census on 15 Apr 1870 in the household of Samuel Jones in 
Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA.

Question 3:  I use the standard 4 position entry for US locations:  
Town/City/Township, County, State, Country.  If the location in an incorporated 
city or town, I enter that in the first position.  If the location is rural, 
not in a town, I enter the township.  I don't think the township is necessary 
if the location is an incorporated community.

Good hunting,
John S. Adams
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Subject: [LegacyUG] More very very newbie questions


1. Can I do a find and replace for places?  For instance, in the past I 
have used Co. for County and abbreviations for states.  I would like to 
change to spelling out the county and state   Is there a feature that 
will allow me to do that globally?

2. On the Event Screen, what kind of information goes into 
description.  The note itself goes into the box below, and the type of 
note is enter in the event box. 

3.  Where would be the place to add township, which one would know in 
only some cases?  If township is put in only when it is known, wouldn't 
it affect the order of the master place list?

4.  Where does one go to put in  cause of death?

Sorry to ask so many basic questions.  I know the answers will be in the 
material sent with the Deluxe version, but I am still trying to evaluate 
how much difficulty I will encounter.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread John S. Adams
I don't usually bother with street addresses, but for Birth, Marriage, Death, 
Baptism, Burial, I also enter the name of the hospital, cemetery, church, etc. 
in the address field accessed by the + sign.  The only problem I have with it 
is that when you include the address on a report, it shows up following the 
event as Address:  Riverside Cemetery.  The Address: lead-in annoys me, but 
I'll live with it.

Elsie, you don't have to enter a marriage location event to record the 
marriage address.  From the marriage screen, click on the house icon at the 
top and a screen will open where you can enter marriage address info.  Don't 
know why this couldn't be somehow standardized with the Birth and Death address 
methods.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



For cemeteries and churches, I use the + sign after the burial and 
baptism fields that leads to the address list and enter it there. 
Don't know if this is how most people do it. For marriages I have to 
make an event called Marriage location and then put the church, etc, 
in the description field and the town, county, etc in the Place field. 
I do that for census info also. Ex:  Residence, 1930, (desc:) at 253 
Railroad Avenue in the town of (place:) High Falls, Ulster Co., New 
York, USA..






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Re: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

2008-05-16 Thread John S. Adams
The logic is very simple:  Cash Flow.

Last summer it was announced that Ver. 7 would be released soon.  Why would 
new potential customers buy Ver. 6 at full price when they knew they would have 
to spend full price again in a few weeks or months for Ver. 7?  They wouldn't.  
They'd either wait, meaning Millenia's cash flow would drop to zero; or they 
would buy another program, meaning Millenia would have lost customers, probably 
permanently.  So Millenia offered an incentive--Buy now, get Ver. 7 at no 
additional cost when it is released.  In effect, new customers after June 2007 
paid in advance for Ver. 7 and received Ver. 6 in the interim.  Since they've 
already purchased Ver. 7, they get it first.  Sounds fair to me.  I bought Ver. 
6 shortly after it was released in 2005.  Should I get Ver. 7 free?  It would 
be nice, but I'm willing to pay full price.  I want Millenia to stay in 
business.

As I recall, Millenia has made the same offer for the last several releases.  
It makes business sense, and they are after all in business.  No profit, no 
Legacy.

just my ¢¢

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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  From: Krisjan 
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  Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:16 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!


  Ken,

   You said:

   Those who purchase in last 10 months have already paid for Legacy 7.0 
   Deluxe and really deserve to have it first.

   My question is: What about the loyal customers who started way back with
   Legacy version 2.0; also bought version 3.0 and version 4.0 and version 5.0
   and purchased the download version of version 6? (By the way I have CD's of
   each of these versions except v6.0, for which I have my customer number, to
   prove my point). Are these people because they bought the new versions more
   or less at the time that each was released not MORE important than Johnny
   Come Latelies that only bought a copy within the last 10 months?

   I must admit your explanation as to who really deserve to have the new
   version first, makes no logic sense to me.

  Christiaan





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Re: [LegacyUG] V6 - Adding Correspondence to Legacy

2008-05-14 Thread John S. Adams
Steve,
I would record the letters as sources, transcribing the contents in the text 
field or scanning them and attaching them as pictures, or both.  The letters 
probably contain information about various family members which you would enter 
for those individuals and use the letter(s) as sources.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Ayres 
  To: Legacy User Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:12 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] V6 - Adding Correspondence to Legacy


  Mike, I like the idea of putting the version number first to assist 
sorting/reading so here goes.
   
  I have a number of very old letters from my G/Parents that I would like to 
document somehow in a general area as distinct from an individuals notes if 
possible in Legacy but cannot see how it can be done.  I am looking at Clooz 
as a possibility but would like to try and keep everything within Legacy to 
avoid another avenue for a mess to sort out latter, I'm having enough fun with 
what I have without creating anything else.
   
  Regards
   
  Steve




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Re: [LegacyUG] how to show two brothers' lines

2008-03-27 Thread John S. Adams
Connie,
Probably not with Legacy Charting, but you can do this nicely with the 
Relationship Calculator under Tools.  The chart you can print from this may 
be what you want.

John S. Adams
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  Subject: [LegacyUG] how to show two brothers' lines


  In Legacy or the new Legacy Charting, is there an easy way to show only 
  the descendant lines of two sons of a given marriage?  There were 10 or 
  more children, but I want to show my daughter (on one page, if possible) 
  how she and her third cousin once-removed are connected, without 
  confusing her with the other 8 siblings.

  Have not done much charting in the past, and have played around with 
  both programs, with no success.

  Connie Beattie





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Re: [LegacyUG] charting - shrink to one page, move title box

2008-03-26 Thread John S. Adams
First, select to topmost, left icon (looks like pedigree chart)
Select Page Setup
Select Landscape
The chart will align to the Landscape orientation and the Title block will be 
correct
Now adjust the box sizes until your chart fits on one page
I just did this for a 6 gen half-fan chart and printed it.  It is generally 
readable, but I would think that any more generations would not be.

Hope this helps.

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  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:21 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] charting - shrink to one page, move title box


  I am trying to shrink a half-circle fan chart to fit on one page. I can't 
find a place that gives this global capability. I only find a place to change 
the size of boxes. Also, I have rotated the chart to landscape (better use of 
space), but the title remains on the landscape side. Is there any way to change 
that?
  Thanks,
  Dee Whiting




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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I keep my locations menu open?

2008-02-24 Thread John S. Adams
Try this:
Tag the locations you want
Create a Location Report of the tagged locations
Save the report to your Desktop as a PDF file
Open the PDF report and size it and your Legacy display so that you can read 
both
Edit

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I keep my locations menu open?


  Hi Elizabeth,

  Thanks for your reply and yes, printing is what I have been 
  doing. It is just that I was wondering if there was any way to 
  have more screens (drop down menus) open and still edit the 
  family view.

  Myrna 



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Re: [LegacyUG] CHILD OF UNMARRIED PERSON

2008-02-16 Thread John S. Adams
Dick,

Regardless of anyone's druthers, the boy is biologically linked to both 
parents, and should be so recorded.  Your cousin IS the father, his amorata 
IS the mother--period.

Remember, the information which appears on the Family Screen is only seen on 
your computer.  All reports which you may share with others will show the 
relationship you select (partners, significant other, close 
friends,---whatever).

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jennifer Crockett 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] CHILD OF UNMARRIED PERSON


  In the Marriage Information screen you can change Husband to
  father and Wife to mother. You can also alter the report
  phrase to partnered, had a relationship with, had a one
  night stand with  or anything you like instead of married.

  Jennifer


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  Dick
  Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2008 1:35 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] CHILD OF UNMARRIED PERSON

  I had already done all those steps ... the problem is that they
  were never married or even lived together ... yet Legacy
  insists on labeling her ( Johnson ) as wife / spouse ... 
  even with the never married option checked! 

  If she hadn't raised the son alone, it might be easier to simply
  delete / unlink either her or the father from the son ... which
  goes back to square one, who do I link the boy to?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Land purchase event

2008-02-11 Thread John S. Adams
Nancy, 
I use the following Sentence Definition for Land envents:

[HeShe] [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace]. ([Notes]) [Sources]

I enter the following info into the Event fields:

Event:  Land
Description:  description of land, to/from whom land sold, price
Date:  date of land transaction document
Place:  location of land
Notes:  legal description of land and any other pertinent info

Here is an example of my entries for one transaction:

Description:  bought 53 acres from Samuel and Elizabeth Penny for $50
Date:  1 Apr 1851
Place:  , Delaware County, Iowa, USA
Notes:  
W2/3 of NE¼ of NW¼ of Sec 17, T90N, R4W, in Delaware Co., and W2/3 of SE¼ of 
NW¼ of Sec 17, T91N, R4W, in Clayton Co. Both parties were residents of Dubuque 
Co, IA. Witnessed by James A. Ginger, J.P., and James Martin.



The Event will print out as:



He bought 53 acres from Samuel and Elizabeth Penny for $50 on 1 Apr 1851 in 
Delaware County, Iowa, USA.  (W2/3 of NE¼ of NW¼ of Sec 17, T90N, R4W, in 
Delaware Co., and W2/3 of SE¼ of NW¼ of Sec 17, T91N, R4W, in Clayton Co. Both 
parties were residents of Dubuque Co, IA. Witnessed by James A. Ginger, J.P., 
and James Martin.)



Just my method.  You have to develop an approach which you are satisfied with.



Hope this helps.



John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA





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  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:17 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Land purchase event


  I am looking for suggestions on entering land events. I see that there is 
an event that is probably a default as I have not dealt with land records 
before so I am sure I did not enter it.
  When I use that, the sentence reads that John Doe owned land...
  If I have a record of a purchase, I want to enter the date, the price and 
from whom it was purchased. I know I can either do a sentence override or 
create a new event, but I thought I'd see if anyone already has a land purchase 
event and would share the sentence format.
  Thank you,
  Nancy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen

2007-12-09 Thread John S. Adams
Nope, Ruth--that's still not it.

The color differences on the Name List differentiate Male from Female (at least 
on mine).  The color change indicating that a source has been added are on the 
Individual's Information screen, where you originally enter the data.

John S. Adams
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  From: Ruth Nerud 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen


  Oh, I just got it - it's blue on the Name List screen - I thought it would be 
on the Family View. Sorry!!

  Ruth Nerud
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From: Sharon Perdue 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen


Been using Legacy for several years and I never knew this, and never 
noticed that the field names were actually a different color.  Very cool!  Love 
this list.

Sharon
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Keener 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen


  That fixed it George.  

  Thank you,

  Jim


  On Dec 8, 2007 10:31 PM, George/Kathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim,
I had this problem quite a while ago and if I remember
correctly I think I fixed it by changing the color scheme 
back to the Legacy default. Not sure which scheme I had
changed to that seemed to have caused the problem.
George


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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:26 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen


I know the field names are supposed to be turned blue when
there is a source
entered for that field, but I just noticed that my field
names are now
black, regardless of whether there is a source listed for
the event or not.
I've searched through my manual and online help files and I 
can't figure out
what has happened.  I'm sure the problem is probably in the
customize
section, but I can't seem to find it.  Can someone please
help?

Thanks to everyone who posts here.  I love it.  Rarely post, 
read every day.

Jim

Jim R. Keener
Sevierville, TN  USA





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[LegacyUG] Source Clipboard (was: Source Dropdown Box)

2007-12-07 Thread John S. Adams
You can select 1 source from among several on the Clipboard, but it is not 
straight forward.  This is a method I stumbled on by accident.

1.  Load the sources (up to 5) on your Clipboard; check Prompt for Detail on 
each Source screen.
2.  When you want to attach a single source to an event, click on the Open 
Source Clipboard button (the blue up arrow button on the left of the screen).
3.  When the Source Clipboard screen opens, if the source you want attached 
isn't on the Source 1 page, move it there using the Swap buttons on the 
right.
4.  Click the OK button.
5.  Click the Attach Clipboard Source... button (the blue dash or 3 blue 
dashes buttons on the left of the screen).
6.  When the Source Detail screen opens, click on the Save button.
7.  The next Source Detail screen (for Source 2) will then open.  If you do not 
want to attach this source, click on the Cancel button.  The Clipboard will 
close and Source 2 and all subsequent sources will not be attached.

If you want to attach more the one, but not all of the sources on the 
Clipboard, make sure that you move the desired sources to the front in step 3 
and click on the Save button to attach each one.

This work-around does require a little work, but if you have a large number of 
events you want to attach multiple sources to, it might save some time.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Bert van Kootwijk 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 5:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Dropdown Box Idea


  In that case that feature is useless.

  Bert

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  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Dropdown Box Idea


   Bert van Kootwijk wrote
  You can have up to 5 different sources on the clipboard. See help.: 
  Source clipboard
   
   Yes, I know that, but when you Paste it pastes all 5 Sources.  (I often 
   paste multiple sources, as I said) but I want to be able to choose which 
   I paste.  Or is this capability in there somewhere and I haven't found 
   it?
   -- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Writing text

2007-09-29 Thread John S. Adams
I think it would depend on your audience.  If it's a book for family, where the 
readers know that you wrote it, use the first person.  If you're submitting a 
book or article for publication in a journal, use the third person.  I often 
insert my comments in notes followed by something like:  --jsa, 9/29/07.  You 
might reserve the General Notes field for first person narratives and use the 
third person in all Events Notes and Sources.  Then you could choose which 
notes to print in a Report or Book, depending on the intended readers.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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  From: June 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:22 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Writing text


  When entering text do people write in the 1st person, or just give facts.

   

  For example - when I write information that my mam has told me about her mam 
is it more common to says that 'my mam said that grandma' 
or is it more common to say that Pauline Smith said that her mother 


   

  I currently use 'my mam said' because although my family history is full of 
facts and official data, it is something that I am putting together (with a lot 
of enjoyment) for my children and their children.

   

  I am still interested in how others do it though because I have adapted many 
of the things I do due to the messages on this forum. And have also learned a 
lot about the things I have been missing out on.

   

  Thank you

   

  June (Chan)

   

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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing the order of Chinese names

2007-09-26 Thread John S. Adams
Thank you June.  Of course the given and generation names should be in the 
SUFFIX field.  Be sure that the Put comma before titles suffix on the 
Customize/Data Format screen is UNCHECKED.
Sorry for confusing things further.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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  From: Cathy 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing the order of Chinese names


  Hi John and June,

  I think John meant to put the first name and generation name in the 
  Title Suffix field given that you want the Surname to print first.
  You could also put the first name and generation name in double 
  square brackets in the Given Name field followed by a quoted name - 
  the name you want used in narrative.

  Then in report options on the Format tab, check Remove Quoted name 
  AND use Quoted Name in narrative.

  This then lists him as

  CHAN  Chung Sing

  and the narrative reads:
  Sing married June on ...

  So:
  Given Names: [[Chung Sing]] Sing
  Surname: CHAN
  Suffix: Chung Sing
  AKA John CHAN

  I think this will work pretty well. It did when I tried it.

  Cheers,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing the order of Chinese names

2007-09-26 Thread John S. Adams
Cathy, not June.  Sorry again.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: John S. Adams 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing the order of Chinese names


  Thank you June.  Of course the given and generation names should be in the 
SUFFIX field.  Be sure that the Put comma before titles suffix on the 
Customize/Data Format screen is UNCHECKED.
  Sorry for confusing things further.

  John S. Adams
  Hermosa Beach, CA

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[LegacyUG] Names and locations

2007-09-20 Thread John S. Adams
The discussions about how to enter adopted vs. biological surnames and the 
formatting of place names prompts me to offer my philosophy.  When entering 
this information, I try to keep in mind what will help me, other researchers 
or future descendants find the relevant sources.


In other words, for an individual, what name would be that under which most 
of his vital records are listed?  If a child were adopted in infancy and the 
original birth record was deleted and replaced by one in his adopted name, 
it would make sense to enter his adopted name in your records as his primary 
name.  If he was adopted by a step-father when he was a teenager and took 
the step-father's name, his birth certificate, baptismal and school records 
would probably be recorded under his birth name, but subsequent records 
would be recorded under his adopted name.  If he changed his name later in 
life, for whatever reason, his personal records would be recorded in both 
names.  I think you have to make a decision about which name would most aid 
researchers and list any others in notes.  Of course, if the person is still 
living, deference to his, or his immediate family's, wishes should be taken 
into account.  If you choose to use the genealogical standard of always 
entering the birth name (if known), you should use the AKA field to list 
all other names under which relevant data might be recorded.  And use copius 
notes to document name changes.


Concerning location formats:  I think that the four position (i.e., city, 
county, state, country), standard which Legacy encourages (but does not 
impose), originated in some of the old line genealogical societies in the 
U.S.  In order to standardize submittals from many subscribers or 
applicants, these societies developed these standards which were then 
adopted by the LDS and most of the U.S.-based genealogy software 
program(me)s.  In my personal experience, the important things are, first, 
to identify locations where records can be found, and second, to define the 
geographic location of an event.  For most of my U.S. ancestors, the bmd 
records, land records, and court records are held by the county.  The most 
narrow geographic location is defined by the city or township.  Therefore, I 
always try to include the county and smallest geographic entity 
(village/town/city/township).  As has been vigorously pointed out by several 
posters here, the 4 position U.S. standard location doesn't accommodate 
most British or European place names.  The best approach is to CONSISTENTLY 
enter locations from the smallest to the largest geographical/political 
entity.  This could involve 3, 4, 5, 6 or more, entities.  I think Legacy 
will accommodate them all.  Of course, border and name changes over the 
years complicate all this, so notes are important.


My 2 cents.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

2007-09-12 Thread John S. Adams
The original question referred to an asterisk next to the relationship.  It 
designates a relative of a later, or younger generation.  E.g., my first 
cousin's granddaughter is my 1st cousin, twice removed.  My grandfather's 1st 
cousin is also my 1st cousin twice removed.  The cousin's gr dau is marked with 
an * to indicate a younger generation.  Grandpa's cousin has no *.

John S. Adams
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Just another day in paradise.
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  From: Mitch Mackrory 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship


  From the Help File ...

  Preferred Child

  The Preferred child is generally a direct line ancestor.  This child
  is shown in the child list with a leading asterisk (*).  You can
  change the Preferred child by right-clicking any child name and
  choosing the Set to Preferred Child option.

  Cheers, Mitch

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   What it means the * person is the prefered descendant
   and/or direct line for RIN #1. I forgot where the
   options to set these are, but there are a few choices
   there.
   Rich in LA CA
  
   --- Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that
both my first cousin
once removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin
twice removed (the
baby) have an asterisk (*) next to their
relationship to me above the names.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] further to the 93-page pension file

2007-09-10 Thread John S. Adams

Janis,
I have 4 CW Pension files obtained from the National Archives and Records 
Administration (NARA).  They range in size from 56 to 160 pages and all are 
on 8 1/2 x 11 sheets.  I haven't considered putting them in sheet 
protectors because they are photocopies, not original documents.  However, I 
might reconsider since NARA has recently increased their fees, so if my 
copies should fade or be damaged, the replacement cost would be significant.


I store each file in a separate legal size hanging folder.  I have the 
sheets in each folder sorted by date of creation (as best I could 
determine).  Each file is a Master Source.  While reviewing my sources, I 
find I have, as usual, been inconsistent in my sourcing formats.  However, 
an example of a Master Source would be:


Name: Auld, A. T.: CW Pension File

TITLE: Federal Pension File: Auld, Alexander T. WC 427516 (Elizabeth A. 
Auld), Claim No. 1097258


TYPE: Military

AUTHOR: U. S. National Archives

PUBL. FACTS: Created 1892-1906, copied 9 August 2002; Washington, DC

RECORDED: 15 Aug 2002

REPOSITORY: National Archives and Record Administration (NARA), Washington, 
DC


COMMENTS: Alexander T. Auld's Pension Application File (Civil War), Claim 
No. 1097258


Photocopy of Full Pension File received by John S. Adams from the National 
Archives and Records Administration


(NARA), Washington, DC, on 15 August 2002. This file consists of 100 legal 
size pages.


File includes affadavits testifying to his character and disabilities from, 
among others, the minister of the Kansas


City, KS, Washington Avenue Methodist Episcopal Church, the Post Master and 
Assistant Post Master of Kansas


City, the Mayor of Kansas City, and a judge of the Court of Common Pleas.

[In another CW Pension Master Source, under Comments, I summarized the 
contents by writing an extract of each document that had genealogical 
significance.  This ran to 43 paragraphs and nearly 3 pages.  This was 
perhaps overkill.]




The Source Detail might be entered like this:



DETAIL INFORMATION:  Certified copy dated 17 Sep 1895 of Marriage License, 
Jackson Co, MO, Recorder


COMMENTS:   Marriage of A. T. Auld and Mrs. E. A. Wilson on 6 Dec 1883 
performed by W. A. Crawford, minister, M. E. Church, in Jackson Co, MO.




The resulting Source Output on a report would then be:



U. S. National Archives, Federal Pension File: Auld, Alexander T. WC 427516 
(Elizabeth A. Auld)


Claim No. 1097258 (Created 1892-1906, copied 9 August 2002; Washington, 
DC), Certified copy dated 17 Sep 1895 of Marriage License,


Jackson Co, MO, Recorder.



Hope this helps,

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.



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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] further to the 93-page pension file


In fact, how do you handle the whole file, start to finish? I plan not to 
transcribe the whole file, nor to scan it. I will scan key pages, and attach 
them to the appropriate events.  I also plan to lightly number, in pen, each 
of the pages for my own reference. Normally, I would print a label that 
contains the full sourcing and document number, and attach one to the front 
of each sheet, when possible, or to the back of sheets where it is not 
possible. Again, however, I do not plan to do that with this enormous file.


Would you take a page inventory, listing each sheet and the essence of what 
each contains? Not a full abstraction, more of an inventory summary?


I should clarify that I have worked with big files like this before, but I 
have never had them well organized. As I clean up my sourcing, I am trying 
to give document numbers to each and put them in 3-ring binders.


Janis




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Re: [LegacyUG] WAS: Chapman Codes, Now: List of Chapman codes

2007-09-03 Thread John S. Adams
Or just look in Legacy Help.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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  From: Drew Smith 
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  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WAS: Chapman Codes, Now: List of Chapman codes


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapman_code

  Drew Smith

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   This discussion about Chapman codes got me to thinking-  Does anyone
   know of a comprehensive list of Chapman codes I can save and use as a
   reference? Perhaps even a book I can buy?
  
   Currently, I go by whatever the United Nations has as a code for a
   country. I figure they are as recent as I can get. But I have been
   wanting something I can put in a briefcase and take with me, if possible.




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to print a location list please ?

2007-09-02 Thread John S. Adams
Go to Reports, choose Location Report.  Choose the options you want, be 
sure to check Include specific events and Include event date.  If you do 
not want all locations listed, tag the desired locations first and select to 
include only tagged locations in the report.

John S. Adams
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  From: Dawn Crowley 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to print a location list please ?


  Is there a way to create a list that is sorted by location, rather than 
  person?  For example:

  CA, Contra Costa, Antioch
Martin, Althea Ann d. 11 Nov 1908
Sneade, Sarah Jeffries  m. 19 Nov 1934
Wightman, Bessie Bresse  b. 1 Apr 1888  m.  20 Jul 1920
Wightman, Carleton Eugene b. 2 Aug 1880
  CA, Contra Costa, Brentwood
Lindsey, Lillian m. 18 Aug 1901
Wightman, Carleton Eugene m. 18 Aug 1901
  etc.

  Thanks,
  Dawn





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Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

2007-08-27 Thread John S. Adams
i only receive messages in English

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  Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases .. )


  NO ENVIEN MAS MENSAJES


  - Mensaje original 
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  Para: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Enviado: domingo 26 de agosto de 2007, 19:12:44
  Asunto: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases .. )


  I think this is a wake up call to include Source
  photos, etc. in the backup list for the future, if not
  current. For myself, I add the documents to both the
  source and an individual or two. For the present, I
  have created a person named Fake Name, and he would be
  perfect to add ALL photo/documents into until this
  situation is resolved. This is not a quick fix,
  depending on quantity.
  Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] County Didn't Exist Then

2007-08-09 Thread John S. Adams
While there was some disagreement at the time about what country North 
Carolina was in, that disagreement was resolved at Appomattox Courthouse in 
1865.


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] County Didn't Exist Then


.
Is anyone putting a different country (CSA?) than USA for states that 
seceded during the Civil War?
ex: born 25 Sep 1861   Mount Pleasant, Cabarrus County, North Carolina, 
CSA (USA/Jul 1868)




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Re: [LegacyUG] [Fwd: Report/GED How-To or Wishlist Item]

2007-08-04 Thread John S. Adams

Kirk,
I think you can accomplish what you want to do by tagging the individuals 
you want in the lineage and exporting the tagged individuals to a new Legacy 
file.  You can then create any report you want or a GEDCOM from the new 
file.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.

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Subject: [LegacyUG] [Fwd: Report/GED How-To or Wishlist Item]


Since I finally bothered to find this list (something I should have done 
years ago when I started using Legacy), here is a HUGE item I find that I 
can not do today and have really needed to do on many occasion:


1) I want a report of all the direct lineage between any two given people 
(assuming of course that the lineage exists) ... I don't want this report 
in the form of boxes, I want a textual narrative report that I can share 
easily with others. The report should allow me to include spouses and 
children (of just those people on the direct line).


2) substitute REPORT above with GED-export (i.e. to be able to take the 
folks that would be in the report above and export them to a GED file).


I have a few other reporting packages outside of Legacy and have not found 
this (as I describe) in those either.


Thanks,
- Kirk Beaty




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Report/GED How-To or Wishlist Item

2007-08-04 Thread John S. Adams

Correction to last post:
First, Untag all Tag 1, or whatever Tag you wish to use.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Report/GED How-To or Wishlist Item



I apologize to the group for not trimming my last post.

Kirk,
Try this:
1.  Select the earliest individual.
2.  Open the Descendants tab.
3.  Select Options from right hand side.
4.  Select Cutomize Columns.
5.  Choose to display a column for (for example) Tag 1.
6.  Now, rather than UNTAG the people you don't want, go down the list and 
TAG all the people you want to keep.  This should be easier than 
untagging, depending on how big this line is.

7.  Export all Tag 1 individuals to a new Legacy file.

Not very direct, but it should do what you want.

Good luck,
John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Hi John,

Thank you for the response.   I actually tried to do this .. I found 
(unless I am doing it wrong) that using this tagging method with the 
lineage focus group, included more than the line (at least when including 
spouse/children) .. i.e. it included the spouses descendants beyond the 
immediate line of interest.So this left me with much more than I 
wanted.   And it took way too much manual untagging to make this 
practical for any but simple cases.
It could still be a matter that I am not aware of something here, but I 
found with quite a bit of trying that I could not do what I described.


Thanks,
- Kirk Beaty




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Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with date

2007-02-15 Thread John S. Adams

There was no year 0 A. D. (or 0 B.C., for that matter).

John S. Adams
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66ºF., clear skies, calm sea

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I triedbut it did not do the trick. Something to do with dates
being on 'both sides of 0 A.D.??? I am not sure. Anyone from Legacy
can shed some light?

Thanks,

Rob Vader

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I will see what I can do there, haven't look at that possibility yet. 
Thanks,


Rob

On 2/14/07, glove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Rob
 Have you tried setting the format in the 'dates' tab on the customise
 screen? You can set the format of 'BC' at the bottom on the right.
 Graham

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with date

 Hi,

 I am having a problem with entering a specific date period for an
 event. The period is 1 B.C. till 11 A.D. I am using the Dutch version
 of Legacy6 De Luxe (pre-release). I have tried entering in all
 concievable combinations B.C. before, after, etc. with, or without
 dots, 4 digit years. Every time I get an indication that the date
 period is not recognised. Any suggestions?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Automatic sentences for events in reports

2006-12-22 Thread John S. Adams
In the Report Options menu, under Event Format, select Use List Style 
formatting instead of Use envent sentencing formatting.


John S. Adams
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Automatic sentences for events in reports



I see that the Deluxe Edition, which I have, automatically forms
the events into sentences when printed.  How about if I don't
want to use them in sentences, is there a way to shut off that
option?  I had hoped the 'sentence override' would do it, but it
doesn't.  I really hate to just delete all the options under
sentence override.   Any suggestions?  What do others think
about the automatic sentences and their useage - the pros and
cons.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-08 Thread John S. Adams

Just another example of two peoples separated by a common language.

John S. Adams
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And English is *our* language so.  ;-)

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:46:57 +0100

Judy wrote

One Source for Comma Rules

http://www.northland.cc.mn.us/owl/comma_rules.htm


I think that just goes to prove that there is one law for the UK and one 
for the USA!


Not only does it cite the example of using a comma after an address such 
as the OP was referring to, but it also includes it before the and in a 
list (eg Aunts, Uncles, and Cousins) which I was taught *never* to do and 
is not generally done in this country.

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[LegacyUG] Entry of uncertain data

2006-10-08 Thread John S. Adams
I have often seen place names and dates entered in angle brackets,, to 
indicate probabale, but not proven info, as in the examples given.  I don't 
know if this is an accepted genealogical convention, but it is used often in 
the IGI and other databases.  I use it in those situations so that when I 
see the brackets, I know the information is based on assumption rather than 
hard data.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.

- Original Message - 

3) Where a person dies is not usually so important as where he was living
at the time of his death, and just because he was living in County X
doesn't mean that he died in County X.  How do you handle that kind of
info?



5) Since his parents lived their entire lives in County X, it's reasonable
to assume he was born there, but his mother could have gone to visit her
mother in County Y for the delivery.  How do you handle info that is
PROBABLY true but you don't really have any way of KNOWING? It's
disconcerting not to have ANY idea where someone was living.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Internet Accessable LEgacy Database

2006-10-02 Thread John S. Adams



Camron,
Have you explored the "Intellishare" feature of 
Legacy? I have never used it, but I understand it is designed specifically 
for situations like yours.

John S. AdamsHermosa Beach, CA"Just another 
day in paradise."

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  From: 
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:05 
  AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Internet Accessable 
  LEgacy Database
  
  Hi,
  
  I am with a team of Legacy users who aresharing, combining and 
  collecting genealogyinformationspecific surname. Does Legacy 
  offer space on the Internet where we can upload our database from which we can 
  all share, add and monitor? If not, is it possible to point Legacy's 
  "OPEN FILE" to an Internet address of which we could hold our database? 
  
  
  Another method maybe to install 'remote access' software. Has 
  anyone tried 'remote access' software to enable theirgroup to gain 
  access to a common PC?
  
  If not, how else is it possible for a group to be able to combine 
  talents, research time and information?
  
  Thanks,
  Cameron D.



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Re: [LegacyUG] entering death certificates into events

2006-09-02 Thread John S. Adams
Add PDF files and most other non-picture files just as you would picture 
files except that you check the Sound icon.  On the Load Sound File 
screen, change the Files of type: entry from Sound Files to All Files 
then select your PDF file and click Open.  Your PDF file will then be 
attached to the source (or the event or the individual).  This has been 
discussed on the LUG recently.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.

- Original Message - 
From: LAURA Taylor-Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] entering death certificates into events


I forgot to mention that my death certs are pdf documents on my hard drive 
and saved to a disk. So how do I add a picture of the death cert to the 
source? Is there a way to change the pdf document? I understand about 
scanning pictures, but I don't know about what documents I can scan. Do I 
have to print all of my death certs in PDF and then scan them into the 
computer?

Help!



From:  La Nell Shores [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] entering death certificates into events
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 10:09:00 -0500

I abstract the contents of the death certificate and put it into notes.  I
also use it as a source but so much of the information is pertinent to 
other

information about the person, I want to see it in the notes.



Abstract of Oklahoma Death Certificate:

Mrs. Nancy Johnson died 23 June 1923 State University Hospital, Oklahoma
City at age 63; Father, Joe Looper; Mother Don't know; cause, abdominal
malignancy; usual residence, Britton, OK; Cemetery Rose Hill; no informant
was listed; Ed Hahn, undertaker; place of birth - Arkansas



From this I have learned to look for the old Hahn Cook Street and Draper
Funeral Home for records, census info in Britton, OK, her mother probably
(she did) died at an early age, no husband listed so probably a widow or
separated (she was separated), etc.  If I only used it as a source I might
miss some of the other clues to her life.



La Nell





-Original Message-
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] entering death certificates into events



I would use the certificate as a source not as an event putting all the
relevant info in the various field used for sources in the appropriate
fields used in entering sources



Lee C

Nashua NH USA

- Original Message -



Does anyone have a good way to enter death certificate info into the 
events?


I have quite a few death certificates that I need to enter into Legacy and
have not a clue how to do it.
Sincerely,
Laura



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate name icon

2006-09-02 Thread John S. Adams
Right click in the Family View Toolbar and select the icons you want to 
appear.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:25 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Alternate name icon



I have the new .108 update -- I don't know whether that's the problem --
anyway on the edit screen beside the person's name there used to be an
icon you could click on to enter an alternate name --now it is suddenly
gone and there a To Do icon instead.!!!

How do I get the alternate name icon back??  (I've checked Options,
Customize and Help, but no luck.

Pat H



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships Calculator

2006-08-30 Thread John S. Adams

Jim,,
Half-siblings properly show in the children section in the lower half of the 
Family View screen.  This is not the problem I'm talking about.


The relationship setting is more busted than I thought.  In trying to more 
clearly explain the problems I've encountered, I set someone other than 
myself as the starting person for relationships.  I then looked at a 
half-sibling of the starting person.  The relationship shown above the name 
of the half-sister reads, Half Source.  What does that mean?  Her spouse 
is Husband of Half Source.  But what is more alarming is that the son of 
the half-sister is identified as Half Son.  That's not any relationship 
that I'm familiar with.  This person is a half-nephew of the starting 
person.


The problems in the Relationship Calculator do occur when I have more than 
one relationship. For example, I select the relationship between myself and 
a distant cousin.  I get the following relationships:

1/2 2C1R
5C3R
6C3R

When I hit the Swap button, I get:
1/2 2C1R
5C3R
1/2 6C3R

There is no reason that swapping the 2 individuals should change these 
relationships.  Obviously, if one is Uncle and the other Nephew, the 
relationships will change, but that's not the case here.


There are other problems in the RC, and I will try to document them all 
sometime and report them to Support.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Winfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships Calculator



John,

Have you selected to show 1/2 siblings on the Family screen.  I have
the latest build and this part works correctly for me.  On the
relationships issue, is it possible you're seeing the relationships
that you are seeing changing when you swap the names is because there
are more than one relationship between the two people?  Look at the
top of the screen - if there is more than one line, each line is a
different relationship.  I have one where a gggrandmother is also my
2nd cousin 4x removed.  That was hard to find.

Jim




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Re: [LegacyUG] Fam. Members by Generation

2006-08-07 Thread John S. Adams


- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fam. Members by Generation




It is only recently that I have been giving thought to statistics and
I am disappointed that Legacy does not provide reports such as this.
The above is simple math and Legacy should be able to produce a report
such as you have described, easily.


I don't know why you should be disappointed with Legacy.  Not matter how 
simple it would be to program such a report, do many people want it?  Would 
a significant number use it?  There are thousands of simple to include 
features that Legacy or any other gen program COULD include, even if only 
1/10 of 1% of users wanted them, but at the cost of a bloated, more 
difficult to use program.  We already suffer from feature inflation and 
options glut as it is.


IMHO
John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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