RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Legacy Web Pages - Login & password

2008-11-28 Thread Mark K

For those more technically inclined I found this info on my providers website.
 
What server-side scripting options does iiNet have? 

Perl 5.8 (for CGI scripting). File extension is .cgi or .pl - see CGI Help for 
more information. 
PHP 4.3.10 (For standalone PHP scripts). File extension is .php - see PHP Help 
for more information. 
SSI. File extension is .shtml - see SSI Help for more information. 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [LegacyUG] Creating Legacy Web 
Pages - Login & passwordDate: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:40:36 +0900


I am looking at putting my gene info on the web BUT only so authorised people I 
know can access it.
 
I have several people looking for info from my data file and this seems the 
easiest ongoing way of giving other access to the information.
 
How then do I set up the web pages so that someone needs a login and pw to 
access the information?
 
ty for any assistance 

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[LegacyUG] Creating Legacy Web Pages - Login & password

2008-11-28 Thread Mark K

I am looking at putting my gene info on the web BUT only so authorised people I 
know can access it.
 
I have several people looking for info from my data file and this seems the 
easiest ongoing way of giving other access to the information.
 
How then do I set up the web pages so that someone needs a login and pw to 
access the information?
 
ty for any assistance 
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[LegacyUG] How do I print tagged individuals

2008-11-26 Thread Mark K

 
I have tagged about 20 unrelated people in my family file.
 
How do I print out just the tagged people?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Male Children Changes Name by Deed Poll

2008-11-25 Thread Mark K

Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to do this?
It has also been included as an event.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [LegacyUG] Male Children Changes 
Name by Deed PollDate: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:58:35 +0900


How do I show that the male child changes his name by deed poll.
I have shown his children with his new name (as the birth certificates) but not 
sure what to do about his surname.  I currently show both in the surname field 
with his birth name normal and new name in brackets.
 
 

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[LegacyUG] Error: entering new location

2008-11-24 Thread Mark K

 
I'm using version 7 with all updates on vista64.
 
Everything has been working fine but I have just noticed that when I enter or 
change a location I get an error.
If I use an existing location there is no problem.
 
However, if I enter a new location in the born or died I get an error on the 
confirm new location box that pops up.
 
The standardisation tip box pops up with three boxes that are usually greyed 
out and which you can not click on.
 
Clicking anywhere in the box gives the "ding" sound to show an error.
 
I am then stuck here, I cannot get out of this.
 
If I press enter a few times the program normally shuts down.
 
Previously, I have been able to enter new locations with v7 so I dont know if 
its an error with some update as I use legacy infrequently.  
Legacy says im up to date.
 
 
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[LegacyUG] Male Children Changes Name by Deed Poll

2008-11-23 Thread Mark K

How do I show that the male child changes his name by deed poll.
I have shown his children with his new name (as the birth certificates) but not 
sure what to do about his surname.  I currently show both in the surname field 
with his birth name normal and new name in brackets.
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

2008-10-17 Thread Mark K
Thanks
I'm using hotmail, and didn't realise it was sending in html.  I don't know how 
to tell it not to send in html but will do a search on it.
 
As you say this does show if they are twins but not if they are adopted or step 
children.
 
What I had to do was to go in and create a new category in the child status box 
to show the description, in this case "step".
 
 



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc> Date: Fri, 17 
> Oct 2008 19:33:35 -0800> > Mark, now that it has been pointed out to me, 
> Legacy does not do this by > color, but, in fact, uses the wording after the 
> child's name. Go to > Options>Customize>View. In the lower right corner you 
> can select "Show > Status on Family View". (By the way, we are supposed to 
> post messages in > text format only, not html.)> > Elizabeth> researching the 
> descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson> > - Original 
> Message - > From: Mark K> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Sent: 
> Friday, October 17, 2008 7:26 PM> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings 
> - step, adopted, twin etc> > > Ron where do I select what colors to show each 
> different child relationship. > I have looked several times.> > I have 
> managed to color by sex but I cannot find where it does this by > 
> relationship - twin, adopted etc as you have been able to.> > > > > > > > 
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens 
> settings - step, adopted, twin etc> > > It displays automatically if you have 
> it selected.> > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Mark K <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:> > I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed 
> the male children in > square boxes and female children in rounded boxes.> > 
> It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of child ie twins, > 
> adopted etc> > Is there any way to display the status of the children in the 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

2008-10-17 Thread Mark K
Thanks for the instructions.
I have this turned on alreadyThis will show if they have a spouse or have 
children but for me it doesn't show if they are twin, adopted, stillborn etc
 
Elizabeth - nice to see another ex reunion user.  The program was amazing at 
the time it came out. 



> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:37:42 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens 
> settings - step, adopted, twin etc> > To see child status in family view, go 
> to Options, Customize, View and> under "Show Status on Family View", check 
> the box for "on children".> The child status will then display in family view 
> (assuming a child> status has been set thru "Children's Settings"). Note that 
> if you have> multiple columns of children showing in family view there may 
> not be> room to see the child status.> > Linda> > > 2008/10/17 Elizabeth 
> Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > But the original poster is correct. 
> There is no way to show specific settings in Family View for children who are 
> twins or stillborn, or are adopted. In Reunion for Windows, these children 
> had specific colors and could be differentiated at a glance. Legacy does 
> provide some differentiation for step-children, and, of course, there is the 
> gender color difference, but not the multiplity of choices available in the 
> other program.> >> > Elizabeth> > researching the descendants of William and 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

2008-10-17 Thread Mark K
Ron where do I select what colors to show each different child relationship.  I 
have looked several times.
 
I have managed to color by sex but I cannot find where it does this by 
relationship - twin, adopted etc as you have been able to.



Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc
It displays automatically if you have it selected.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed the male children in 
square boxes and female children in rounded boxes.
 
It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of child ie twins, adopted 
etc
 
Is there any way to display the status of the children in the family view?


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RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

2008-10-17 Thread Mark K
Well I have looked in the help and to options-cusotomise and have missed it.
 
Can someone please tell me where I select this option



Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc
It displays automatically if you have it selected.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed the male children in 
square boxes and female children in rounded boxes.
 
It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of child ie twins, adopted 
etc
 
Is there any way to display the status of the children in the family view?


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[LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

2008-10-17 Thread Mark K
I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed the male children in 
square boxes and female children in rounded boxes.
 
It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of child ie twins, adopted 
etc
 
Is there any way to display the status of the children in the family view?
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RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children

2008-10-16 Thread Mark K
Ron again thanks for your suggestions.
You are right the report will show the relationships but unfortunately it is 
also very verbose.
 
I may end up word processing the report I want myself.
 
The problem I have is that all these programs are focused on the line of an 
individual, whereas I want the details for a couple.  This is not meant as a 
criticism of reunion.Another example is a cousin of mine who is a close friend 
of mine.  He has been with his current partner for 20 years.  She had two 
children from a previous marraige.  Stan has 3 children from 2 previous 
marriages.
 
If we all get together at christmas or for a bbq etc there will frequently be 
Stan, Jane and their five children.  However, if I use a descendent report It 
will only show his or her children, not all of them.  If I set them all up as 
step children then they will be included but I wont know who the biological 
parent is unless I use the large descendant book report.
 
What I am after is a one page report that shows the 7 people.
 



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 
> 15:06:14 +0100> > > Mark,> > If the only addition you require is the 
> inclusion of the Child Status then the Descendant Book Report may be what you 
> are looking for -given that the child is linked to your uncle as either step 
> or adopted. This can be included using Report Options>Include.> > > Ron 
> Ferguson> > 
> _> > 
> *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs> http://www.fergys.co.uk> 
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/> For The 
> Fergusons of N.W. England See:> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/> 
> _> > > > 
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / 
> Reports 1/2 children> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:27:49 +0800> > > > > > I 
> checked also and it works fine.> > > > However, in the report while it shows 
> a different surname there is no indicator for the child status. ie it does 
> not say that the person is adopted or a step child, they have the same status 
> the biological children.> > > > > > > > Re which report - I don't care what 
> report it is, simply one that will show all the children of both people, not 
> just the one focus person.> > Ideally what I am after is a report that states 
> the biological children of the couple, and then also the children of their 
> other marriages. A sort of two sided descendant report.> > > > In a normal 
> descendant report it shows the other spouses of the focus person, and any 
> children. I would like the report to show the other spouses of the spouse and 
> their children also.> > > > > > In this case it is two of my uncles, and all 
> my life the children that I grew up with were one family unit and that is 
> what I would like to see.> > > > I hope this makes some sense.> > > > If 
> there isn't any such report, I can wp it, I wont have any choice :)> > > > > 
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 
> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / 
> Reports 1/2 children> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:35:08 +0100> >> >> > Mark,> 
> >> > I have just checked and my reply to your first email was correct.> >> >> 
> > Ron Ferguson> >> > 
> _> >> > 
> *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs> > http://www.fergys.co.uk> 
> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/> > 
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/> 
> > _> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 
> Charting / Reports 1/2 children> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:39:10 +0800> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > hi Ron> >> > I was looking at descendant reports/charts and 
> want to see all the children of both parents, not just the marriage.> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> >> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children> >> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 
> 08:12:17 +0100> >>> >>> >> Mark,> >>> >> You do not say which (or what sort 
> of) chart, so I cannot test this for you, but have you tried linking and 
> setting the relationship to "step child" - which after all would be accurate. 
> I am not sure if this option is there by default but if not you can just add 
> it.> >>> >> I think it is just the need to link to the step father which is 
> important.> >>> >

RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children

2008-10-16 Thread Mark K
I checked also and it works fine.  
 
However, in the report while it shows a different surname there is no indicator 
for the child status.  ie it does not say that the person is adopted or a step 
child, they have the same status the biological children.
 
 
 
Re which report - I don't care what report it is, simply one that will show all 
the children of both people, not just the one focus person.
Ideally what I am after is a report that states the biological children of the 
couple, and then also the children of their other marriages.   A sort of two 
sided descendant report.
 
In a normal descendant report it shows the other spouses of the focus person, 
and any children.  I would like the report to show the other spouses of the 
spouse and their children also.
 
 
In this case it is two of my uncles, and all my life the children that I grew 
up with were one family unit and that is what I would like to see.
 
I hope this makes some sense.
 
If there isn't any such report, I can wp it, I wont have any choice :)



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 
> 13:35:08 +0100> > > Mark,> > I have just checked and my reply to your first 
> email was correct.> > > Ron Ferguson> > 
> _> > 
> *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs> http://www.fergys.co.uk> 
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/> For The 
> Fergusons of N.W. England See:> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/> 
> _> > > > 
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / 
> Reports 1/2 children> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:39:10 +0800> > > > > > hi 
> Ron> > I was looking at descendant reports/charts and want to see all the 
> children of both parents, not just the marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 
> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / 
> Reports 1/2 children> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:12:17 +0100> >> >> > Mark,> 
> >> > You do not say which (or what sort of) chart, so I cannot test this for 
> you, but have you tried linking and setting the relationship to "step child" 
> - which after all would be accurate. I am not sure if this option is there by 
> default but if not you can just add it.> >> > I think it is just the need to 
> link to the step father which is important.> >> >> > Ron Ferguson> >> > 
> _> >> > 
> *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs> > http://www.fergys.co.uk> 
> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/> > 
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/> 
> > _> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Charting / 
> Reports 1/2 children> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:40:59 +0800> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> > My uncle and his wife had 1 child from their marriage.> >> >> >> > 
> Before they were married each had been married and had one child.> >> >> >> 
> >> > I have set the family view to show 1/2 children so when I look at my 
> uncles family card it shows him and his wife and three children - their son, 
> his son from his previous marriage and his wife's son from her previous 
> marriage.> >> >> >> > However whenever I try to chart this it will only ever 
> show two children, and not the son of the his wife.> >> >> >> > If I show the 
> wife's son as being adopted by my uncle then he will show in the reports such 
> as descendants but it does not show his real father, just my uncle.> >> > 
> Also, on the family view their is then 4 children showing, including the now 
> adopted son who is shown twice as both adopted and as a 1.2 child.> >> >> >> 
> > I hope you can understand what I am trying to show here.> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> Is there any report or chart that will simply show the true relationships of 
> my uncle and aunt, and their three children. They were always treated as 
> simply one family.> >> >> >> > thanks for any help> >> >> >> > Mark> >> >> > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children

2008-10-16 Thread Mark K
hi Ron
I was looking at descendant reports/charts and want to see all the children of 
both parents, not just the marriage. 
 
 



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 
> 08:12:17 +0100> > > Mark,> > You do not say which (or what sort of) chart, so 
> I cannot test this for you, but have you tried linking and setting the 
> relationship to "step child" - which after all would be accurate. I am not 
> sure if this option is there by default but if not you can just add it.> > I 
> think it is just the need to link to the step father which is important.> > > 
> Ron Ferguson> > 
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> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 
> 1/2 children> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:40:59 +0800> > > > > > > My uncle and 
> his wife had 1 child from their marriage.> > > > Before they were married 
> each had been married and had one child.> > > > > I have set the family view 
> to show 1/2 children so when I look at my uncles family card it shows him and 
> his wife and three children - their son, his son from his previous marriage 
> and his wife's son from her previous marriage.> > > > However whenever I try 
> to chart this it will only ever show two children, and not the son of the his 
> wife.> > > > If I show the wife's son as being adopted by my uncle then he 
> will show in the reports such as descendants but it does not show his real 
> father, just my uncle.> > Also, on the family view their is then 4 children 
> showing, including the now adopted son who is shown twice as both adopted and 
> as a 1.2 child.> > > > I hope you can understand what I am trying to show 
> here.> > > > > > Is there any report or chart that will simply show the true 
> relationships of my uncle and aunt, and their three children. They were 
> always treated as simply one family.> > > > thanks for any help> > > > Mark> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children

2008-10-15 Thread Mark K
However, if I turn off the 1/2 children view that is a global setting as I 
understand it, not just this one family.
 
thanks



Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:11:15 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children
Regarding the 4 children showing on the Family View, I don't worry about it.  
Legacy shows that as an aid, it does not show on any report that I know of.  
You could, of course turn off the 1/2 children setting and it would only show 3 
children.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My uncle and his wife had 1 child from their marriage.
 
Before they were married each had been married and had one child.
 
I have set the family view to show 1/2 children so when I look at my uncles 
family card it shows him and his wife and three children - their son, his son 
from his previous marriage and his wife's son from her previous marriage.
 
However whenever I try to chart this it will only ever show two children, and 
not the son of the his wife.
 
If I show the wife's son as being adopted by my uncle then he will show in the 
reports such as descendants but it does not show his real father, just my uncle.
Also, on the family view their is then 4 children showing, including the now 
adopted son who is shown twice as both adopted and as a 1.2 child.
 
I hope you can understand what I am trying to show here.
 
 
Is there any report or chart that will simply show the true relationships of my 
uncle and aunt, and their three children.  They were always treated as simply 
one family.
 
thanks for any help
 
Mark 
 


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[LegacyUG] Charting / Reports 1/2 children

2008-10-15 Thread Mark K
My uncle and his wife had 1 child from their marriage.
 
Before they were married each had been married and had one child.
 
I have set the family view to show 1/2 children so when I look at my uncles 
family card it shows him and his wife and three children - their son, his son 
from his previous marriage and his wife's son from her previous marriage.
 
However whenever I try to chart this it will only ever show two children, and 
not the son of the his wife.
 
If I show the wife's son as being adopted by my uncle then he will show in the 
reports such as descendants but it does not show his real father, just my uncle.
Also, on the family view their is then 4 children showing, including the now 
adopted son who is shown twice as both adopted and as a 1.2 child.
 
I hope you can understand what I am trying to show here.
 
 
Is there any report or chart that will simply show the true relationships of my 
uncle and aunt, and their three children.  They were always treated as simply 
one family.
 
thanks for any help
 
Mark 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Online download of Legacy 7 Question:

2008-06-22 Thread Mark K
I believe it is installed to the root directory as some programs have issues 
writing to files in the C:\ProgramFiles\ directory.
 
Personally, I have a strong dislike for any program installing to the root 
directory but with some you have no choice.How some programs work properly from 
the C:\ProgramFiles\ directory and others don't would seem to be an issue with 
the people writing the program.
 
Mark


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Legacy 7 Question:Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:55:56 -0400



Legacy defaults to installing in C:\Legacy.  
 
But, you can change that to install wherever you want it to.  C:\Program 
Files\Legacy follows the recommended Windows naming system for programs and is 
where I installed it.
 
Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Art Seddon 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Online download of Legacy 7 Question:

Legacy V7 installed in C:\Legacy by default, not C:\ProgramFiles\Legacy on my 
XP computer. 
 
It may do different on Vista.
 
Art Seddon
 

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From: Tim Rosenlof 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Online download of Legacy 7 Question:

 


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of John MagyariSent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:45 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [LegacyUG] Online download of Legacy 7 Question:
When every you overwrite any file, with any program, the previous files are 
replaced by the new ones.Yes 
Legacy installs to C:\Legacy by default.Legacy use to default to C:\ , Now it 
defaults to C:\Program Files\Legacyv7
If you want to keep old version(s) of Legacy and have new one just install 
Legacy7 somewhere else likec:\legacy7then if you want to keep you old Database 
Files for Ver 5.Copy the old version 5 files 
 
if you are talking .usr files. If you are talking about moving the actual 
program files, uninstall from the uninstall from the start menu or control panel
 
 (usually located in "C:\legacy\data"  into the new Legacy7 Location\data 
 
they will be converted. Keep your data files in different place. v2, v3, v4 
etc. If you open database files with new version once converted previous 
versions will no longer be able to access them.  This is how most programs 
work. 
 
Correct.
 
If you didn't want to convert, keep the same version.
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpDownloadVersion6.asp jdmDeborah K. 
Millemaci wrote: 





I downloaded the latest version of Legacy Friday evening and installed it.  Am 
I wrong to assume that it "overwrites" the previous versions? 
Correct.   I tried to download Version 5 which was on my desktop...and I 
received the mssage "Are you sure you want to deleter Version 7.0.  If you 
could give your exact steps, we may be able to help you better. Downloading 
Ver5, and so on.
 
Thanks,
Tim Rosenlof Has anyone else had this problem? - 
Deb~~ Researching the Following 
Familiy Ancestors: Taylor Family From Carter County, KY(Taylor Branch - 
Willard)Hicks Family From Boyd County, 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?

2008-06-19 Thread Mark K
All of my options and settings changed over to the new version with no problem. 
 I installed into the default directory.
 
mark



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> [LegacyUG] Install does not use previous Options from 6?> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 
> 2008 15:29:26 -0400> > FWIW I thought to mention that my installation of 
> Legacy 7 Deluxe converted > my previous Legacy 6 Deluxe data file with no 
> apparent problem. Because it > warned me that the converted file would no 
> longer be readable by version 6 I > took the precaution of first copying all 
> my Legacy data files to another > folder labeled "Legacy 6 data files". (I 
> had also made a full backup of my > data partition to a external drive before 
> installing version 7 just in case > of problems )> > One early thing I 
> noticed on opening Version 7 was that even though it > converted my fdb file, 
> it did not incorporate the options I had modified in > Legacy 6. Not a major 
> problem and I just went through them all to change > them the way I liked 
> them in version 6 including the file locations, but it > would have been nice 
> if it had done that as part of the "update". I did > install version 7 in its 
> own separate folder (my careful nature) - in case > that was the reason why 
> version 7 did not find and adopt the previous > options of version 6. 
> Installing version 7 in the same folder as the old > version 6 might have 
> avoided this but then I would have had no way to go > back and compare.> > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-17 Thread Mark K
Hi Darlene
 
First you Internet provider is not IE 6.  That is the web browser you are 
using.  The ISP is completely different and should not make any difference to 
viewing a web page.
 
While I do not use it, it may be worthwhile to try accessing ancestry.com with 
a different web browser called firefox2. (mozilla.com/firefox I am pretty sure.)
 
I am not sure what you mean when you say that "I had service pack 3 and had to 
delete it".  You can not simply delete SP3.  It needs to be uninstalled.  Have 
a read of the microsoft knowledge base article here 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950249.  Of these methods I prefer using system 
restore if you have not added anything important since then.
 
I know this is pedantic, but computers are very black and white, the grey is 
where they do not work.  It is very likely that any uninstall of SP3 has left 
odd files on your computer.
 
If you have no luck, and you had no trouble viewing ancestry.com before sp3 I 
would consider reinstalling the OS from scratch, but this will depend on how 
many applications you have installed and what backups you have and your level 
of understanding.
 
The best way is to reformat your hard drive which means everything on it will 
be deleted.  You will need backups for everything and anything you want.
 
While this is a big step, if you have had XP on your computer for several years 
it is normally a great way to clean up your computer.  I do my computer every 
6-12 months and it is an enormous headache but it does tend to clear up all the 
little issues computers get.
 
Mark
 
 
 
 
 



> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:18:03 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: 
> [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning 
> Ancestry.com!> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > I have a Dell 
> desktop Dimension with Windows XP 2002 service pack 2. I had service pack 3 
> and had to delete it. My Internet provider is IE 6. I still can't get to the 
> images. I deleted all of my .ocx files and ative x files, as well. Now when I 
> go to Ancestry.com I do not click on the enhanced viewer, but the screen 
> freezes the moment I click on basic viewer. I have searched all over the 
> Internet, on Rootsweb and Ancestry and tried all the suggestions, even ones 
> on this list, to no avail! I am feeling pretty hopeless, here! If I can't get 
> the images, I will not renew my subscription with Ancestry! I have wasted a 
> lot of time already!> > Darlene> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You are never too old 
> to set another goal or to dream a new dream." ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 > > > > 
> --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > From: Mark K 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off 
> of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!> > To: 
> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 6:48 PM> 
> > If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if> > you state 
> the brand of processor (intel or amd), the> > operating system (XP or Vista) 
> and what service pack you> > are on. It has already been stated that an amd 
> based> > computer with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and> > it is 
> not the fault of the user. It is also worth> > mentioning which browser and 
> version.> > > > Mark> > > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700From:> > 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG]> > Off topic, but 
> need help, off of this list, concerning> > Ancestry.com!Got this announcement 
> when I finished the> > email"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be> > 
> preventing viewing original records"> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, 
> Christina> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Darlene,I am having problems as 
> well. I have not done> > anything to my computer and tried both browsers IE 7 
> and> > Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry about the> > 
> problem.Christina> > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & 
> Don Hicks> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Hi I cannot see the images on 
> Ancestry.com, any longer. I> > had automatic updates on my Windows XP Service 
> pack two and> > it downloaded the update with service pack three. Over the> > 
> weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell desktop> > computer and 
> finally got Dell tech support to help me. I> > had two viruses while I had 
> Norton turned off, for 1/2 a> > day and so the techs reinstalled Windows and 
> I have service> > pack 2, now. When I first did searches,

[LegacyUG] RE:

2008-06-16 Thread Mark K
If you right click on an empty area of the pedigree view there is an option 
"show spouse/child and sibling lists".
 
Mark


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:19:51 
-0500Subject: 




hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the Legacy 7 
manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if this question has 
already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone if it has   
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does not look 
like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then the ancestral lines 
to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not there, it would be great to 
see spouses and the vital stats for the person.
 
Thanks
Shelly
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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Mark K
If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the 
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and what 
service pack you are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based computer 
with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not the fault of the 
user.  It is also worth mentioning which browser and version.
 
Mark


Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!Got this announcement when I finished the 
email"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original 
records"
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Darlene,I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer 
and tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry 
about the problem.Christina



On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi  I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic 
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with 
service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell 
desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had two 
viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs 
reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did searches, 
at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine, but when I 
tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up and running and 
I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and deleted it, but it 
made no change in my access to images.  There are probably more files hidden.  
Can someone please give me a heads up on what could be the problem?  I payed 
$300 for another year with Ancestry.com in March and not getting the census 
images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any and all help with this [EMAIL 
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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

2008-06-16 Thread Mark K
Unfortunately the idea of using cds / dvd as an archive medium may not be as 
good as many people believe.  The failure rate after several years is very high 
with either partial or total failure to read the files.
 
With external hard drives and now even 8GB flash drives so cheap these are a 
much better option.
 
Mark
 
> I take a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,> 
> naturalisation, etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD> 
> name and storage locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's> 
> house in case we have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire> 
> safe. 

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:54:26 +0100> > I 
> can't offer specific advice on a numbering system, as mine is all over the> 
> place at the minute. However, the mention of plastic sleeves compelled me to> 
> offer some words concerning general storage issues. > > I learned just how 
> bad plastic sleeves can be when I inherited a lot of> family documents from 
> my grandfather, and more recent pictures stored by my> parents back in the 
> '60's and '70's in those "magnetic" photo books. > > The chemicals in plastic 
> (petroleum?) "leeches" colours from photos, turning> them yellow and pale. 
> Paper documents also suffer degradation.> > I don't know if modern plastics 
> have the same problem, but to be safe I only> use archive-quality supplies. 
> To help cut down on expense, double-up two> documents to a sleeve (back to 
> back) when possible - but never mix modern> paper with older linen-based 
> paper. Perhaps being over-cautious, I also> insert archive-quality cardboard 
> to help protect against damage. (A local> picture framer gives me off-cuts 
> from his photo-mounting work, which has> been a real cost-saving.)> > I take 
> a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,> naturalisation, 
> etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD> name and storage 
> locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's> house in case we 
> have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire> safe. I learned this 
> after the home of my parents home burned down and we> lost many treasures.> > 
> Michele wrote, "I do not have paper documents for every single marriage> 
> (many marriages are sourced using electronic databases or digital census> 
> records which I do not copy)."> > I couldn't make out whether Michele saves 
> things you find on the internet,> but if you don't, please do, as you never 
> know how long the information will> be there! I save them to disk and also 
> print out for storage at another> location.> > Just some food for thought...> 
> > Christine> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve> Sent: 16 June 2008 08:00> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing 
> system> > Michele,> > I have just converted/sorted all my junk into MRIN 
> order. (Well a lot of it> so far)> > No3. The MRIN is shown at the bottom of 
> the screen labeled "M: X" X=> Marriage Number.> > No1. Yes.> > No2. I have 
> been using File Folders bought from the local Big W store (Read> Wal-Mart in 
> US) with the MRIN and Family Names written on the flap. I store> all my notes 
> and a copy of any certificates in the folder. I only make up a> folder when I 
> have some notes or documents for the Family so yes I have gaps> in my filing 
> cabinet. One day I might just be lucky and find some info on> all the 
> "gaps".> > No4. I File all Original Marriage/Death/Birth Certs in Plastic 
> sleeves in a> separate folder and enter the basic info into a couple of 
> databases that I> made. The DB gives me a number eg: MC001 (Marriage 
> Certificate No 1) and I> put this number in the File ID in Legacy. I put a 
> label on the plastic> sleeve with the File ID, Person's Name & MRIN so I have 
> a quick cross ref> between my folders and Legacy. This way I am able to see 
> at a glance if I> have entered the data into Legacy or not.> > All of the 
> above has come from the LUG group, there is so many wonderful> ideas out 
> there that you can pick and choose bits to suit your own> circumstances and 
> they are all the "Right Way" to do things as long as you> can follow your 
> system. I hope to use the above with photos as well once I> get them sorted 
> in the next year or so.> > Steve> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele> Lewis> Sent: 
> Monday, 16 June 2008 1:30 PM> To: Legacy E-Mail List> Subject: [LegacyUG] 
> MRIN filing system> > I need to revamp my paper filing system. Now that I 
> have Legacy 7 I figure > now is a good time. I have a couple of questions for 
> those people that use > Legacy and use the MRIN filing system.> > 1. Lets say 
> I am working with MRIN #420 all I do is file all

RE: [LegacyUG] Index view to Family view

2008-06-15 Thread Mark K
At present when I am in index view and I find the person I want I have to click 
on them to select them and then click on the Family tab.
 
If I double click on the name it opens up there Individual information which I 
do not want.
 
In the Options Customise I can change what a double click does, but I am happy 
with how it is set for every other screen, it is only in the Index View that I 
want a double click to do something different to the default and go to family 
view.
 
Is there a setting somewhere to do this.
 
I am also aware that I can do Alt m
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-15 Thread Mark K
Perhaps you should try some of the filtering and sorting options that have been 
mentioned numerous times in this thread and then you would not even notice it.
 
Mark



> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:34:07 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: 
> [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > My 2 Cents or should I say Pennies> 
> Hasn't this subject been flogged to death. there must have been 40/50 mails 
> on this subject. It> started out about the mail that was being generated on 
> the Lug. Is this not what is happening with> this. I thought the Lug was for 
> everyone to help each other with Problems with Legacy not problems> with 
> reading and sorting mail.> Bob C> > > --> > Regards> Bob Cunningham> > I am 
> Researching:-> Cunningham...Prestonpans, East Lothian> 
> Marr.Prestonpans, East Lothian> 
> Ritchie..Prestonpans, East Lothian> 
> Thomson..Prestonpans, East Lothian> 
> Taylor...Dunbar, East Lothian> 
> Catleugh.Haddington, East Lothian> 
> SharpTorryburn/Cowdenbeath, Fife> 
> Stuart...Inverallan, Moray> > > > Legacy User Group 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45

2008-06-14 Thread Mark K
Makes sense.  I was hoping for a "versions" file of some description that 
details what the update fixes.
 
Mark



> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:58 +1200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update 
> from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45> > It is not "normal" for updates within a version 
> to be announced. They > are made available, and you can then download them 
> when you become aware > of them. Your Legacy program will check for updates 
> automatically every > 30 days and alert you to any waiting.> > You can go to 
> the Home tab to see what your installed version is, and > what the latest 
> available version is, and download any new one waiting. > See "Update, 
> Legacy" in the index of the Help System.> > Hope this helps. :-)> > Kind 
> Regards,> Wendy Howard> -- > Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand> 
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ > 
> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/>> > - Original 
> Message -> *From:* "Randolph Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> *To:* 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> *Sent:* 06/14/2008 3:45:23 AM +1200> 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45> > > > Where 
> is it?> >> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:> > > >> If I missed this in the mailing list I apologise but has 
> anyone noticed that> >> there has been an update for legacy 7. This is not 
> legacy 6 to 7, but for> >> 7.> >>> >> I have not seen this mentioned on their 
> website and can not find any details> >> of what has changed.> >>> >> Has 
> anyone else noticed this?> >>> >> Mark> > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade to V7 I need convincing........

2008-06-14 Thread Mark K
The first point is that this is a forum with a lot of the more advanced users 
and the few bugs that have been reported have certainly not been critical, to 
me at least.  Here you will find the users that find issues and report them.
 
For a major release there has not been that many issues and you would expect 
these to be cleared up with an update.  
 
What I would do is keep a list of the bugs reported, any solutions found and 
then see if they even relate to features that you use.
 
If any bugs are on features you don't use or only minor then no real issue for 
you.
 
Perhaps wait for the next update.Mark



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> [LegacyUG] Upgrade to V7 I need convincing> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 
> 09:21:04 +1000> > Hi,> > I am one Legacy User (Deluxe V6 last Build) who at 
> this point of time is > hesitant about upgrading to V7. There just seem to be 
> quite a lot of "bugs" > reported it seems. More than what I thought normal 
> but of course I have > been reading the same messages arriving in my mailbox 
> more than once!! Does > get a bit confusing after awhile, or at least for me 
> anyway. > > It would be appreciated if those who have moved "on" would 
> clearly share > their experience in how they feel V7 performs. What positives 
> they feel and > what negatives also the ease of moving from one screen to 
> another etc etc.> > Yes, I have been to Legacy's Home page and looked at 
> various examples of how > things can be done etc etc. but I want to hear from 
> the everyday Legacy User > regarding "your" thoughts about the upgrade. Is it 
> really worth it in your > opinion?> > Yes, I have also tried the "Standard" 
> version of 7 so have a "little" idea > of what it's about, though I need 
> quite a lot of convincing to move > 'Up":-> > I love this program but 
> don't want something I am going to swear at if it > whilst using!!!> > 
> Hopefully I can be CONVINCED!!> > Thanks in advance> Rachel Alliston> Lake 
> Macquarie, Australia > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-14 Thread Mark K
I already have 6 different email addresses, 4 for work, my "real" email address 
to my domain and hotmail.  I do not want another.  I use hotmail as it is tied 
into messenger and the kids use it to contact me through their mobile phones.
 
Forums have advantages that a mailing list can not address, that said both have 
a place.  A forum can also act as a mailing list, email people every post if 
they so want.
 
Someone else started the forum concept and got shot down for it.  The responses 
against a forum have largely been from people not familiar with them, and those 
for a forum from people who use them a lot such as myself.
 
Have a look at this thread started on rootsweb.
 
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.legacy/1/mb.ashx
Please look at it in flat view.
You don't need to log in to look at it.
It was started in 1999 with the latest response in March 2008.  There are 19 
posts, all in order and you can see everything that happened.
 
Contrast that to even your response, it only deals with my latest email.  
Someone else would have no idea of the other posts or context of the original 
query in most cases.
 
It is a pity that Legacy do not support the forums on rootsweb.  Although they 
are basic it would at least be a start down the path of salvation or perhaps 
damnation.
 
Mark



> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:15:44 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for 
> legacy solutions only?> > Mark,> > Have you considered unsig a Gmail address 
> specifically for the LUG? It> may be just what you want.> > It automatically 
> threads e-mails by subject, has a huge storage> capability (over 6GB at 
> present), and a very simple search facility> (type the search phrase/word(s) 
> you want, click the "Search Mail"> button, and it will search through *ALL* 
> your e-mails for those with> the phrase you require, with this phrase 
> highlighted in each e-mail).> Since I moved to Gmail some time ago, I have 
> never had to delete a LUG> message and I currently have over 5000 email 
> threads from the LUG (yes> that's *five thousand* threads), most with a 
> number of e-mails in> them, yet I'm still only using 301MB (4%) of my 6822MB 
> storage space.> > You can also apply Labels to e-mails (similar to folders) 
> and then> create a filter to apply a label to specific e-mail messages. You> 
> then can view the title and the first few words of the e-mail in a> list, and 
> decide whether or not you wish to read it.> > It really works very well, and 
> I've never looked back (and I use a> very *VERY* slow dial-up at home, 
> usually getting speeds of a max of> 25Kb).> > Regards,> > Dermot.> > > > 
> 2008/6/13 Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:>  I use hotmail for the Legacy 
> mailing list. Yes I can sort it> by subject but> > choose to sort it by date 
> received as I also receive other email on this> > email address.> >> > If I 
> chose to use outlook I could filter the incoming email and sort> > 
> accordingly.> >> > I expect that many people use hotmail or similar web based 
> emails with> > limited filtering capabilities.> > Mark> > > > > Legacy 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45

2008-06-14 Thread Mark K
I found it on the "Legacy Home" tab in Legacy itself.  I can not find it on the 
legacy web site.
 
Mark



> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:45:23 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update 
> from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45> > Where is it?> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:31 AM, 
> Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >> > If I missed this in the mailing 
> list I apologise but has anyone noticed that> > there has been an update for 
> legacy 7. This is not legacy 6 to 7, but for> > 7.> >> > I have not seen this 
> mentioned on their website and can not find any details> > of what has 
> changed.> >> > Has anyone else noticed this?> >> > Mark> > 
> > > Email Australia. Be part of history. Take 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-13 Thread Mark K
I use hotmail for the Legacy mailing list.  Yes I can sort it by subject but 
choose to sort it by date received as I also receive other email on this email 
address.
 
If I chose to use outlook I could filter the incoming email and sort 
accordingly.
 
I expect that many people use hotmail or similar web based emails with limited 
filtering capabilities.
Mark


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for 
legacy solutions only?Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:07:10 -0400



Mark,
 
Can't you sort your In Box by Subject?
 
Tom
Ill-Informed and Unedjucated But Able to Delete Unwanted Subjects in a Second

- Original Message - 
From: Mark K 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

What a lot of ill informed nonsense.
 
How on earth is it easier to sort through every damn email than to simply look 
at a forum and then choose the topics you are interested in ONLY.
 
You don't get every single useless, repeated and unwanted email clogging up 
everything.
 
Message boards are in no way slower to email and usually faster, all the ones I 
use are instantaneous.  
Your point of sorting a mailing list is uneducated - a forum is basically a 
sorted email list except you don't have to receive or look at every email, you 
only look at what you are interested in.
 
If you were on dial up now I doubt you would be wanting to receive  a 100 plus 
emails daily on a slow list let alone the thousand you would receive on most.
 
Did you ever wonder why mailing listed have almost died everywhere and forums 
took over - faster, easier, better searching, better history and you only look 
at what you want.  
 
Mark



> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:23:53 +0800> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?> > If there ever is a forum 
> for Legacy, hopefully it will be set up like > the Rootsweb ones and 
> gatewayed to a mailing list so you never have > to go to it.> However, in my 
> experience of Rootsweb, messages gatewayed from the > Boards are generally 
> from beginners and almost impossible to respond > to except to ask for 
> clarification of their problem or request.> > Message Boards are so much more 
> time consuming. Perhaps my > perspective was set when I was on dial up. 
> Message Boards are so slow > to use compared to email. However, I still am 
> usually frustrated by > trying to find stuff on Message Boards to the point I 
> give up.> > With a mailing list you can sort very quickly in so many 
> different > ways - certainly necessary at the moment with the mail delays.> > 
> Cheers,> Cathy> > At 04:39 AM 9/06/2008, you wrote:> >YES! This is exactly 
> what we don't need!. Please please can we > >have this NOT?> >There are many 
> of us who loathe using an on line support forum. I> >prefer to read messages 
> via email rather that waste my time logging on> >to a forum to see if there 
> are any message that I have absolutely no> >interest in.> >> >--> >Regards,> 
> >Ron Bernier> >> >> >On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Judith H <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >YES! This is exactly what we need! Please please can 
> we have this? Geoff?> >> >> >---Original Message---> >From: Brian 
> Lightfoot> >Date: 6/7/2008 4:17:39 PM> >To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for 
> legacy solutions only?> >What you are asking for is a support forum with 
> threaded subjects, something> >that many other companies with products and 
> services have already set up.> >For example, there could be specific 
> categories for sources, one for bug> >reports, one for installation problems, 
> one for charting, etc. In addition,> >such forums tend to eliminate the users 
> receiving copies of each and every> >message posted, including those messages 
> to which the user has no interest.> >Many forums allow the user to specify 
> something along the lines of notify> >me of all responses to this message 
> which means they would receive an> >e-mail notification about the message 
> subject to which they have expressed> >an interest. On the downside, what the 
> user may miss is a new subject opened> >to which they may have a great 
> interest but have no knowledge that it was> >ever posted. This requires the 
> user to visit the forum web site to check for> >new subject matter being 
> posted. Why Millenia has not gone this route is a> >mystery to many of us as 
>

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45

2008-06-13 Thread Mark K
 
 
If I missed this in the mailing list I apologise but has anyone noticed that 
there has been an update for legacy 7.  This is not legacy 6 to 7, but for 7.
 
I have not seen this mentioned on their website and can not find any details of 
what has changed.
 
Has anyone else noticed this?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 set relationships

2008-06-13 Thread Mark K
Mike thanks for this, that is a great way at looking at relationships.  I had a 
pdf that showed you how to calculate it but this is much easier.
 
Mark



> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:18:20 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 set 
> relationships> > Robert57P via Gmail wrote:> > Nope - that's not what I was 
> looking for. Yes, it prints a good chart > > of the relationship between 
> those 2 people. But I recall a "generic" > > chart that showed no names, just 
> a diagram that showed what a "second > > cousin once removed" was - i.e.: it 
> had a whole series of relationships > > on one chart (self, parent, grand 
> parent, great grand parent, etc, etc, > > etc).> > Reports--> Books/Other--> 
> Forms Centre> > -- > Regards,> Mike Fry> Johannesburg.> > > > Legacy User 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-13 Thread Mark K
Whether or not legacy want to change to a forum or not is obviously up to 
Legacy.  They could also decide to support the forum on rootsweb, but hopefully 
it would be better forum software than that.
 
I strongly doubt the forum would ever be hosted by yahoo, but whenever any 
site, not just a forum, asks for personal information I doubt that the 
information that I give is of much use to them.
 
Regardless discussing the issue can do no harm.
 
It would however help if people educated themselves on their comments.  For the 
benefit of Gene, yes many people are making uneducated comments on using forums.
 
For the several people who have commented that they do not want to log onto a 
forum guess what - you don't need to.  Most forums will let you read them 
without logging on.  You will need to login to post a comment in most cases, 
but not all.
 
However, remember while you are not willing to subscribe to a forum you did to 
this mailing list.  If you choose to join a forum all the major browsers will 
save your login information and you will only ever have to do it once, again 
similar to subscribing to this mailing list.
 
What you will not have is double posts, posts turning up hours to days later, 
and posts totally out of order.  You will see all the posts in a thread in 
order so that you can follow a conversation without people responding to an old 
email or posting the same answer several times.  Your answers will make more 
sense as they are in order and all the posting are there together to see at 
once, no opening or searching for several emails.
 
Most also offer to email you is someone replies to your posts, or to a thread 
you are interested in.  You can turn this feature off when you want but if you 
dont and someone replies to a query several months later you will be notified 
and understand what the response is about as all the old posts will be there 
also.
 
You can even choose to have all the posts on the forum emailed to you so you 
would not even notice any difference to this mailing list.
 
Even rootsweb has a flat view option on their forum


Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:05 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?
Please - don't make us log on to a forum. Also, Yahoo email registration 
requires you give your DOB and other info. I don't want it!
I'd rather wade through some non-specific stuff than have to go to another 
location to find my Legacy Group.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-13 Thread Mark K
Firstly, I take exception to someone taking what I have said out of context.  
If you actually read Cathy's earlier reply she said that she last used a forum 
when she was on dial-up or a comment similar to that.  I was last on dial-up 
about 10 years ago.  Forums have changed a lot in that time. As Cathy's answer 
implied, her understanding of forums and their features was from several years 
back and she has not used one since she was on dial-up.  To me her comments are 
uneducated (on this topic), and I do not believe that is an unreasonable 
conclusion based on her own comments.  However, she is entirely free to have 
her opinion and express it, as am I.
 
Secondly, I would use the rootsweb "forum" except there is no such thing.  If 
you look on rootsweb it is a "mailing list".  There is also a "mail archive".  
I can not find any forum for Legacy on there.
 
If Cathy had taken exception to anything I wrote then I expect that she would 
have emailed me her concerns, she seems to be a person who can stand up for 
herself.
 
The one thing you did get right is that mailing lists are odious to me.  I 
could go on about the benefits of a forum such as the ability for people who 
like a mailing list to still get every posting as an email, but I won't go on 
about it.  I do like to click on a topic and see every response to that query 
without having to open email after email, or go searching for an email from a 
few months ago to make sense of a reply.  However, you do not seem to 
interested in a discussion on email lists vs forums.
 
Mate the only person who has been rude is you, try reading your own response. 
It is very disturbing the way you take comments out of context and try to make 
an issue out of them.  On a forum this is called "trolling".
 
If you applied your own criteria to yourself, and are not a hypocrite, I trust 
you will unsubscribe from this list but somehow I doubt it.
 
Cheers
Mark
 



> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:58:49 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for 
> legacy solutions only?> > Mark K wrote:> > What a lot of ill informed 
> nonsense.> > > > How on earth is it easier to sort through every damn email 
> than to > > simply look at a forum and then choose the topics you are 
> interested in > > ONLY.> > > > You don't get every single useless, repeated 
> and unwanted email clogging > > up everything.> > > > Message boards are in 
> no way slower to email and usually faster, all the > > ones I use are 
> instantaneous. > > Your point of sorting a mailing list is uneducated - a 
> forum is > > basically a sorted email list except you don't have to receive 
> or look > > at every email, you only look at what you are interested in.> > > 
> > If you were on dial up now I doubt you would be wanting to receive a > > 
> 100 plus emails daily on a slow list let alone the thousand you would > > 
> receive on most.> > > > Did you ever wonder why mailing listed have almost 
> died everywhere and > > forums took over - faster, easier, better searching, 
> better history and > > you only look at what you want. > > > > > I suggest 
> you unsubscribe if mailing lists are so odious to you. Having a strong 
> opinion about > something does not give you the right to call someone who 
> believes otherwise uneducated. You are a > rude individual who doesn't even 
> know how to follow the rules of the list you are criticizing. > Please 
> unsubscribe and go to the forum on rootsweb. We will all be much happier.> > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] REnumbering RINS's

2008-06-12 Thread Mark K
Thanks for your response, and Cathy's.
 
When I looked at the option in tools, renumber RIN's something didnt click and 
it looked like I had to renumber each one individually.
 
Anyway worked a treat
 
Thank you both
 
Mark


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RINS'sDate: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:19:57 +0200


Export to a legacy file and select the option to renumber rin'sEvert van Dijken


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [LegacyUG] REnumbering RINS'sDate: 
Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:45:34 +0800


I have imported into my database a gedcom.  The RIN's are totally out of 
sequence and as the RIN's in the gedcom were 500,000+ for some reason all the 
new ones are created after that also.  Is there some way to renumber the file?
 
Thanks
Mark

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RE: [LegacyUG] REnumbering RINS's

2008-06-12 Thread Mark K
Ron in response to why - because it annoys the hell out of me for some reason 
being so out of sequence.  
 
My family file has a total of about 7,000 people and the imported on was about 
500 people.
 
Legacy did not create the gedcom.Thanks for your reply
 
Mark



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] REnumbering RINS's> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:04:37 +0100> > > 
> Mark,> > Why bother as their order is totally unimportant and in any event, 
> although I haven't checked I would be very surprised if Legacy created a 
> Gedcom using the RINs. There is no way of automating a change of RINs from 
> within Legacy and with 500,000+ it would take years to do it manually (even 
> if you don't get lost after the first 100 or so :-) ).> > > Ron Ferguson> > 
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> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
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> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:45:34 +0800> > > > > > I have imported into my 
> database a gedcom. The RIN's are totally out of sequence and as the RIN's in 
> the gedcom were 500,000+ for some reason all the new ones are created after 
> that also. Is there some way to renumber the file?> > > > Thanks> > Mark> > > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
I depends when you bought version 6.  
 
Contact Millennia direct with details of when you purchased version 6.
 
Mark



> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:19:23 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
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> always been a> payment with a major revision.> Keith> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 
> at 9:08 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > I have been off of 
> the email list for quite some time and have just now> > rejoined so please 
> forgive me if this question has been asked a gazillion> > times.> >> > I 
> thought that those persons that have bought Version 6 would get a FREE> > 
> upgrade to Version 7? What happened with that? I just went to the web site> > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
Hi Sherry
 
I will give them a week or so more to catch up then send an email.  It's 
certainly not urgent.
 
Mark



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:38:35 -0700> > If 
> you purchased the download manual for v6, you should have received the> 
> download instructions to download the v7 manual. Check directly with Sales.> 
> You can contact them by sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by> phone 
> from the US and Canada 1-800-753-3453.> > > Thanks for using Legacy.> > 
> Sherry> Customer Support> Millennia Corporation> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com> > We are changing the world of genealogy!> > 
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.> 
> Thanks.> > > ----Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark K> Sent: Tuesday, 
> June 10, 2008 12:52 AM> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7> > I just realised what has happened.  I 
> bought Legacy in May as a download> only package with the manual. I thought  
> that the upgrade would include both> but I am obviously wrong.>  > NP if I 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
I just realised what has happened.  I bought Legacy in May as a download only 
package with the manual. I thought  that the upgrade would include both but I 
am obviously wrong.
 
NP if I need it I will buy it seperately. Mark



> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:56:58 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
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> 7> > Mark,> > You can purchase the v7 manual by going to the legacy store> 
> (http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440). When there,> select 
> "Legacy Products" on the menu on the left of screen, and scroll> down to 
> "Legacy Family Tree 7.0 User's guide", at a cost of USD14.95,> or Legacy 
> Family Tree 7.0 User's Guide (Download Only) at a cost of> USD9.95 (This is a 
> PDF version, which can be stored on your computer,> and read with Adobe 
> Reader or other similar software).> > Regards,> > Dermot.> > > 2008/6/8 Mark 
> K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Is there a manual that you can download for version 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
I just realised what has happened.  I bought Legacy in May as a download only 
package with the manual. I thought  that the upgrade would include both but I 
am obviously wrong.
 
NP if I need it I will buy it seperately. Mark



> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:56:58 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual version 
> 7> > Mark,> > You can purchase the v7 manual by going to the legacy store> 
> (http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440). When there,> select 
> "Legacy Products" on the menu on the left of screen, and scroll> down to 
> "Legacy Family Tree 7.0 User's guide", at a cost of USD14.95,> or Legacy 
> Family Tree 7.0 User's Guide (Download Only) at a cost of> USD9.95 (This is a 
> PDF version, which can be stored on your computer,> and read with Adobe 
> Reader or other similar software).> > Regards,> > Dermot.> > > 2008/6/8 Mark 
> K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Is there a manual that you can download for version 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources - Master and Detail

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
As I understand it OP = Original or Originating Poster

> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources - 
> Master and Detail> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:43:10 -0400> From: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> > Intermittently on this LUG I see references to "OP". What's 
> that stand for? > Operator? Operating Program? OutPut?> - Original 
> Message - > From: "Jenny M Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:20 AM> 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources - Master and Detail> > > >> > Elizabeth 
> Richardson wrote> >>What do you have checked in 
> Options>Customize>Sources>Source Detail > >>Defaults ?> >> > Another rather 
> confusing instance of having different places to select the > > same options! 
> However, I have "Include Source Details text on source > > citations on 
> reports" ticked in Options and on the Source Details tab and > > still 
> confirm the OP's findings.> > -- > > Jenny M Benson> >> >> >> > Legacy User 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
thanks Bob
 
I'm not sure what the deal is with the manual.  When I bought version 6 a 
little while ago (May)I got the manual but didn't think I would have to buy one 
for v7.
 
Mark


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 
11:31:41 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Mark,
 
Check their sales page.  You can buy a printed manual or buy a PDF manual  or 
go with no manual.  The help files are pretty good, but I still bought a 
printed manual 'cause it is easier to read in the "easy chair" and easier to 
highlite and dog-ear.  Unfortunately several of the sections at the end simply 
say "see the xxx section in the program's HELP file".  But what is documented 
in the manual (a lot), is documented well.
 
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Bob

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To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

Is there a manual that you can download for version 7 and if so where can I 
download it?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
What a lot of ill informed nonsense.
 
How on earth is it easier to sort through every damn email than to simply look 
at a forum and then choose the topics you are interested in ONLY.
 
You don't get every single useless, repeated and unwanted email clogging up 
everything.
 
Message boards are in no way slower to email and usually faster, all the ones I 
use are instantaneous.  
Your point of sorting a mailing list is uneducated - a forum is basically a 
sorted email list except you don't have to receive or look at every email, you 
only look at what you are interested in.
 
If you were on dial up now I doubt you would be wanting to receive  a 100 plus 
emails daily on a slow list let alone the thousand you would receive on most.
 
Did you ever wonder why mailing listed have almost died everywhere and forums 
took over - faster, easier, better searching, better history and you only look 
at what you want.  
 
Mark



> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:23:53 +0800> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?> > If there ever is a forum 
> for Legacy, hopefully it will be set up like > the Rootsweb ones and 
> gatewayed to a mailing list so you never have > to go to it.> However, in my 
> experience of Rootsweb, messages gatewayed from the > Boards are generally 
> from beginners and almost impossible to respond > to except to ask for 
> clarification of their problem or request.> > Message Boards are so much more 
> time consuming. Perhaps my > perspective was set when I was on dial up. 
> Message Boards are so slow > to use compared to email. However, I still am 
> usually frustrated by > trying to find stuff on Message Boards to the point I 
> give up.> > With a mailing list you can sort very quickly in so many 
> different > ways - certainly necessary at the moment with the mail delays.> > 
> Cheers,> Cathy> > At 04:39 AM 9/06/2008, you wrote:> >YES! This is exactly 
> what we don't need!. Please please can we > >have this NOT?> >There are many 
> of us who loathe using an on line support forum. I> >prefer to read messages 
> via email rather that waste my time logging on> >to a forum to see if there 
> are any message that I have absolutely no> >interest in.> >> >--> >Regards,> 
> >Ron Bernier> >> >> >On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Judith H <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >YES! This is exactly what we need! Please please can 
> we have this? Geoff?> >> >> >---Original Message---> >From: Brian 
> Lightfoot> >Date: 6/7/2008 4:17:39 PM> >To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for 
> legacy solutions only?> >What you are asking for is a support forum with 
> threaded subjects, something> >that many other companies with products and 
> services have already set up.> >For example, there could be specific 
> categories for sources, one for bug> >reports, one for installation problems, 
> one for charting, etc. In addition,> >such forums tend to eliminate the users 
> receiving copies of each and every> >message posted, including those messages 
> to which the user has no interest.> >Many forums allow the user to specify 
> something along the lines of notify> >me of all responses to this message 
> which means they would receive an> >e-mail notification about the message 
> subject to which they have expressed> >an interest. On the downside, what the 
> user may miss is a new subject opened> >to which they may have a great 
> interest but have no knowledge that it was> >ever posted. This requires the 
> user to visit the forum web site to check for> >new subject matter being 
> posted. Why Millenia has not gone this route is a> >mystery to many of us as 
> it would eliminate the constantly repeating message> >of plain text only , 
> etc. Maybe we ll see it sometime in the future.> >Brian> >> >> >> >Legacy 
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[LegacyUG] REnumbering RINS's

2008-06-11 Thread Mark K
I have imported into my database a gedcom.  The RIN's are totally out of 
sequence and as the RIN's in the gedcom were 500,000+ for some reason all the 
new ones are created after that also.  Is there some way to renumber the file?
 
Thanks
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

2008-06-08 Thread Mark K
I do not understand why they dont use a forum instead of a mailing list.  Many 
of the emails would disappear as its much easier to find old answers and you 
only have to look at the items you are interested in.
 
Rootsweb host many other forums.



> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:21:01 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for 
> legacy solutions only?> > Al Wakenhut wrote:> > Would it be possible to set 
> up a special email list limited to those of > > us whom have specific 
> questions about using Legacy? Not to complain, > > but many of us do not have 
> the time to read a large volume of emails > > from people who have complaints 
> about the service or just want to chat. > > I could further explain my 
> question but then I would only be adding to > > the problem.> > > > Thank 
> you, > > > > Al> > In as much as running an email list costs $, who is to pay 
> for it, considering we already have one > free list paid for by Millenia?> > 
> By all means, feel free to start your own but, as for me, I think I'll put up 
> with the questions > that do not interest me to get to the ones that do. It's 
> cheaper all around that way. ;-)> > -- > Gene Y.> n2kvs> Researching Young, 
> Zies, Harer & Cox with> Legacy Family Tree> http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/> > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

2008-06-08 Thread Mark K
Is there a manual that you can download for version 7 and if so where can I 
download it?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

2008-06-08 Thread Mark K
ROFL have u even tried Vista?  I have vista 64 with 8gb.  This is simply the 
best OS MS have ever made.  
It is more stable than windows 2000 even was and makes XP look like rubbish.  
You need to remember XP was an enormous memory hog in its time.  The majority 
of people use XP with 2GB ram.  Before XP 256 MB was considered a lot of ram so 
XP increased ram usage by 8 times and vista maybe double for most people and 
vista is the memory hog, go figure.
 
IE7 is a standard part of windows as far as MS is concerned and a developer has 
every right to develop for it.
IE7 may not have been part of your OS originally but it is a recommeded part of 
it today.  SP1 and SP2 were not part of XP initially and  SP3 includes IE7 I 
believe.  
 
Since the mapping program uses virtual earth, which is a MS program, guess what 
- it requires IE7.
 
The point is you are complaining to Legacy when the issue is not theirs.  They 
are doing the right thing and developing on the recommended platform.  
The issue is with the software you are using.  You should be complaining to the 
communications software people, not Legacy.Further, Legacy do not require that 
you use IE7 as your browser, simply that it is installed on your computer.  
This is the newest genealogy software out there and they are using the latest 
software, naughty them, and you are complaining that they didnt develop the 
program for what is now a dead OS.  Silly them, where is there forward 
plannning.
 



> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:41:30 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7> > IE 
> 7 was never part of my OS (XP Media Manager) and cannot use it as > other 
> programs I use for a daily at home job require IE 6 ONLY, so IE 7 > is not an 
> option. I just bought a new computer a year ago, so don't > plan on anything 
> new in the near future and definitely not a memory hog > OS like Vista.> > I 
> use other genealogy software programs and none "require" a certain > browser, 
> such as IE 7--I will just have to use them for any mapping I do.> > Mark K 
> wrote:> > Better yet they should write a whole separate program for you with 
> > > separate pricing options. How dare they expect users of windows > > 
> programs to actually have the browser that comes built into the > > operating 
> system.> > > > I hope you also got your discount from microsoft since they 
> supply IE7.> > > > This programs cost under $30 and I simply cant believe the 
> people > > whingeing about it took a few hours to get a password (on the free 
> > > version no less). Before they there were people that had been so > > 
> loyal as they had the program since v5 or earlier and they should get > > a 
> free upgrade.> > > > Honestly some of you people are incredible.> > If I was 
> you I would consider being a true american and sue them for > > selling you a 
> product under false pretences or something - don't let > > them get away with 
> it.> > > > Of course you may also consider suing the people who make the > > 
> communication tools that don't work with windows and IE7 but tht would > > 
> seem a bit unfair, I mean one person makes software that works with > > the 
> operating system and one makes software that doesn't and guess who > > you 
> complain to. And yes, IE is as close to being a part of the > > operating 
> system as anything can be.> > > >> > > > 
> > > 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:50:57 -0500> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7> >> 
> > There should be a discounted upgrade price for those that don't> > have or 
> cannot have IE7--as we cannot use the "deluxe" map> > feature. I have a job 
> with several communication tools that> > require that I NOT have IE7, so I 
> don't have a choice of whether> > to have it or not.> >> > Cathy wrote:> >> > 
> Have you entered your Deluxe Customer Number?> >> > You won't get mapping 
> until you do.> >> > You can get to the maps through the icon on the toolbar - 
> if> > it isn't there - customise the toolbar by right clicking on an> > empty 
> spot and then following the directions.> > This takes you to the map for the 
> highlighted individual.> >> > Or go to the Master Location List and check the 
> Show Maps> > checkbox.> >> > Remember you need to have IE7.>

RE: [LegacyUG] v7

2008-06-07 Thread Mark K
Not here.

> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:53:57 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7> > We 
> download-only version users appear to be extremely low on the> priority 
> list.> > I've sent a couple of emails to sales and am waiting patiently for a 
> response.> > Have any download-only pre-paid V7 users received an email with 
> their> new customer number?> > -- > Al Mallory> Whitby, Ontario> > > > On 
> Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:00 AM, decfam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Hi I 
> received an email this morning from Legacy news, "FeedBlitz> > [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]; on behalf of; Legacy News> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" advertising v7 
> ungrade from v6 at the official> > price!!!Like others I have been waiting 
> for email indicating that my paid> > for ungrade is available with password 
> etc.I purchased v6 within the> > official time to get the download free!! Can 
> some official from Legacy> > explain please. Declan> >> >> >> >> > Legacy 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7.0 - Great Job

2008-06-07 Thread Mark K
Very, very similar to my experience.  I am happy to say I got the serial number 
this-morning for my upgrade.
 
Very smooth and hassle free.
 
Imagine the audacity of someone who first agrees to the conditions of purchase 
where it tells you how long it may take to get the password / serial number and 
then they complain and complain.  Makes you wonder.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.0 - Great 
JobDate: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:16:13 -0500




HEAR,HEAR   Great job to all at Millennia.

- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Keough 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.0 - Great Job 
I usually lurk but needed to weigh in on this -First off, Jan - I hope all goes 
well for you with your test results - what you are facing is indeed the serious 
stuff of life.Second, the LUG received advance notification late afternoon 
Wednesday June 3 from Geoff that Version 7 was ready to download/purchase, 
something we have all been waiting for (some more patiently than others).  I 
went to the site, reviewed the choices, made mine and shopped - everything on 
the site was clear and quite user-friendly (9:30 pm).  Within 10 minutes I 
received via email a receipt and thanks for my purchase.  Within 5 hours I 
received my password and instructions (2:00 am!).  This morning when I went 
through my email I followed the instructions and everything went smoothly - all 
my customizations moved from Version 6 to 7 without any problem.  Now I am up 
and running and able to play with the new version.Excellent job Millennia - I 
could not be more pleased.  I am hoping you all get some well deserved rest 
soon.  I am also hoping that some on this list get over themselves and their 
amazing sense of self importance or the sense that they know how to do 
everything better.  Millennia is selling this product, they know their 
capabilities and time constraints.  They can put the product out there and we 
can purchase or not on their terms - in many, if not all, instances when our 
purchases are made on line our credit cards are debited prior to receiving a 
product - I don't know why Wynthner is so aggrieved (not only in this instance 
but also a laundry list of "business issues" over the past month). Life is too 
short and most often the glass is half full! I have finally had enough of this 
second guessing of Millennia and I for one think you did an excellent job with 
your roll out.  Enough already.- Original Message - From: "Wynthner" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, 
June 04, 2008 8:35 AMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Install password for 
Legacy 7.0 Free versionJan, sorry about your problems butIf I purchase 
something and the charge hits my account today then I should be able to use the 
product today-PERIOD.If it takes 24 hours to process the e-mailed password then 
the account shouldn't be charged until that e-mail is sent-PERIODWhy the devil 
should they have use of my money for 24 hours when I can NOT use the 
product??- Original Message From: Jan Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:49:16 PMSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] 
Help with Install password for Legacy 7.0 Free versionLet’s get some 
perspective into this please! I am sick of all the whingers- and I know I am at 
risk of being ticked off for being off-topic, but ithas got beyond a joke. I 
have been as keen as anyone else to get my handson Version 7.0. 30 minutes ago 
I paid for Deluxe 7.0, and within 5 minutesI got confirmation of my order - 
along with a reminder of what was clearlyspelled out on the website - that I 
would receive a separate email withdownload instructions and password by the 
end of the next working day (butprobably sooner!) So I wait! The world is not 
going to come to an endbecause I don't have it this minute! In the whole scheme 
of things havingto wait for the password is very, very minor. You see, I am 
waiting forresults of a CT scan and liver biopsy to see if I do in fact have 
secondarycancer from the breast cancer I thought I had beaten for six years! 
Sort ofmakes waiting for a Legacy password pale into insignificance doesn't 
it!Millennium staff - thank you for a fantastic product at a fantastic price.I 
hope all the whingers have hard drive crashes! 
:-)Cheers,JanFrom: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat WalkerSent: Wednesday, 4 June 
2008 1:29:PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [LegacyUG] Help with Install password for 
Legacy 7.0 Free versionVery frustrating--I am a paid customer. I wanted to 
upgrade to the 7.0Deluxe from my 6.0 Deluxe. First I downloaded the free 7.0 
version and thenpurchased the upgrade. In the meantime, I was told I would be 
emailed theinstall password (used to be family for 6.0) so I could at least 
play aroundwith the 7.0 standard.Alas, I got no such email and the recorded 
message on 

RE: [LegacyUG] Help with Install password for Legacy 7.0 Free version

2008-06-07 Thread Mark K
If I remember correctly there was initially a message where you downloaded it 
saying that it could take up to 24 hours to email the password, but we will 
ignore that for now anyway - better to rant about something.
 
Regardless, what a ridiculous load of rot you are arguing!  
 
I bet you wait more than a few hours every time you order anything through the 
post and you pay up front then or they don't send the item.  Out goes amazon, 
ebay and any other form or mail order/delivery.
 
Have you ever paid a deposit on anything - a house, a car, maybe a tv.  
 
You could have done the same here and mail ordered your copy, at least this way 
you would have given then a few days to plan where to holiday with the interest 
they got on your money.  This is of course assuming it even goes into a 
interest bearing account.  
 
Regardless what a petty person you are.  I hope the rest of the world is more 
generous to you than you are to others. 
 
How about you tell us all how much interest you were actually charged for the 
few hours they had you money and then worked out how much legacy made on your 
money.  Despite your assertions its not even pennies.  If if they had an 
interest bearing account they would not have earned close to even 1c in 
interest.
 
It literally cost you a thousand times more money to make the support call 
because you are so impatient, than any interest they may have made or you lost. 
 Maybe they are getting kickbacks on the calls?I am new to this mailing list 
but as I said previously - I have never known such a lot of petty, small minded 
whingers than what I have seen on this mailing list!



> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:59:20 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> [LegacyUG] Help with Install password for Legacy 7.0 Free version> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > I use a debit card, not a credit 
> card, so it indeed MY money and not the card company's money of which we are 
> speaking. > Just think of the money Legacy could get in one day on alll 
> orders. Not much for any one orderr but pennies do add up.> We are speaking 
> of principle. The principle that if you pay for something your use of that 
> something should not be dependent on delayed information to enable that use.> 
> I do not consider pointing out items that are not consumer friendly to be 
> complaining.> > > - Original Message > From: GeoSci <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 
> 4, 2008 7:23:08 PM> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help with Install password for 
> Legacy 7.0 Free version> > Wyner,>   You just like to complain!  If you paid 
> by Credit Card - the CC> company is out - not you - until your bill comes.  
> And the interest> you might get on $20-20 at todays rates - just pick up that 
> many> pennies in a parking lot somewhere!  Get real!> Keith> > On Wed, Jun 4, 
> 2008 at 11:35 AM, Wynthner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Jan, sorry about 
> your problems but> > If I purchase something and the charge hits my 
> account today then I should be able to use the product today-PERIOD.> > If it 
> takes 24 hours to process the e-mailed password then the account shouldn't be 
> charged until that e-mail is sent-PERIOD> > Why the devil should they have 
> use of my money for 24 hours when I can NOT use the product??> >> >> > - 
> Original Message > > From: Jan Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:49:16 
> PM> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help with Install password for Legacy 7.0 Free 
> version> >> > Let's get some perspective into this please!  I am sick of all 
> the whingers> > - and I know I am at risk of being ticked off for being 
> off-topic, but it> > has got beyond a joke.  I have been as keen as anyone 
> else to get my hands> > on Version 7.0.  30 minutes ago I paid for Deluxe 
> 7.0, and within 5 minutes> > I got confirmation of my order - along with a 
> reminder of what was clearly> > spelled out on the website - that I would 
> receive a separate email with> > download instructions and password by the 
> end of the next working day (but> > probably sooner!)  So I wait!  The world 
> is not going to come to an end> > because I don't have it this minute!  In 
> the whole scheme of things having> > to wait for the password is very, very 
> minor.  You see, I am waiting for> > results of a CT scan and liver biopsy to 
> see if I do in fact have secondary> > cancer from the breast cancer I thought 
> I had beaten for six years!  Sort of> > makes waiting for a Legacy password 
> pale into insignificance doesn't it!> >> > Millennium staff - thank you for a 
> fantastic product at a fantastic price.> > I hope all the whingers have hard 
> drive crashes! :-)> >> > Cheers,> > Jan> >> > 
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Walker> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 
> 2008 1:29:PM> > 

RE: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

2008-06-06 Thread Mark K
Better yet they should write a whole separate program for you with separate 
pricing options.  How dare they expect users of windows programs to actually 
have the browser that comes built into the operating system.
 
I hope you also got your discount from microsoft since they supply IE7.
 
This programs cost under $30 and I simply cant believe the people whingeing 
about it took a few hours to get a password (on the free version no less).  
Before they there were people that had been so loyal as they had the program 
since v5 or earlier and they should get a free upgrade.
 
Honestly some of you people are incredible.
If I was you I would consider being a true american and sue them for selling 
you a product under false pretences or something - don't let them get away with 
it.
 
Of course you may also consider suing the people who make the communication 
tools that don't work with windows and IE7 but tht would seem a bit unfair, I 
mean one person makes software that works with the operating system and one 
makes software that doesn't and guess who you complain to.  And yes, IE is as 
close to being a part of the operating system as anything can be.
 

 


Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:50:57 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7
There should be a discounted upgrade price for those that don't have or cannot 
have IE7--as we cannot use the "deluxe" map feature.  I have a job with several 
communication tools that require that I NOT have IE7, so I don't have a choice 
of whether to have it or not.Cathy wrote: 
Have you entered your Deluxe Customer Number? You won't get mapping until you 
do. You can get to the maps through the icon on the toolbar - if it isn't there 
- customise the toolbar by right clicking on an empty spot and then following 
the directions. This takes you to the map for the highlighted individual. Or go 
to the Master Location List and check the Show Maps checkbox. Remember you need 
to have IE7. Cathy At 08:11 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote: 
I have watched the "What's new" video and have just downloaded the Del V. 7- I 
know that I have downloaded the version due to the fact that I can add the 
"married" name option for the index-  however, the mapping feature is not seen 
on the ribbon at the top of the screen- in fact, it still looks like V.6- do I 
need to switch it on some where?  I can't wait to play with it and really start 
to clean up my sources. Thanks, Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines:   
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RE: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7

2008-06-05 Thread Mark K
Ok here is what I did as I was too impatient to wait for a response and this 
mailing list took hours to post my query (I still cant believe everyone uses a 
horrible mailing list rather than a forum).
 
Anyway, what I did was first to backup my entire legacy directory (c:\Legacy) 
and all my datafiles.  I found further details on the download page that said 
to uninstall legacy 6 so I did then and then installed V7.
 
Since it needed a password and I didnt have it after many hours I emailed 
legacy and they sent it to me.
 
I then installed the new one into c:\legacy.  It picked up all my old settings 
and preferences as the uninstall didnt uninstall everything, obviously, and v7 
works fine.
 
By uninstalling you do get some old drivers off your system which is probably 
the main advantage to doing it this way.
 
I expect in the next week I will get a reg key for v7 and will then be very 
happy.
 
I agree with many users that sending the pw when you dl is not working very 
well, and it didnt work for me but have a thought for Legacy.  They will 
literally tens of thousands of people hammering the system at the one time.  
 
There will be glitches. For a little bit of patience, and some manners, 
everyone will end up a lot happier.
 
Anyway, back to waiting for my serial number :)
 
Mark



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:21:20 +0100> > 
> > Amongst other things your settings are all there> > > Ron Ferguson> > 
> _> > New 
> Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office> 
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> _> > > > 
> > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 03:08:38 -0700> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: 
> Re: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7> > To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> >> > Why do you recommend installing 
> over version 6?> >> > ___> > Wayne Martell> > 
> Victoria, BC, Canada> >> >> > - Original Message -> > From: Ken 
> McGinnis> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 
> 03, 2008 10:14 PM> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7> >> >> > As 
> always, make a backup of your family file. Then we recommend that you> > 
> install over the top of Legacy 6.0. Legacy 7.0 will convert your family> > 
> file to a newer format to handle the new sources and other new features.> >> 
> > Thanks> >> > Ken McGinnis> > Millennia Corporation> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com> > We are changing the world of genealogy!> 
> >> > _> > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7

2008-06-04 Thread Mark K
Hi Ken
 
"I simply recommended users install over 6.0 which from our point of view 
simplifies tech support calls.   The end user only have one copy of Legacy. 
Legacy was designed to be installed over the previous version and simply work"
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpInstall4Over3.asp
Please uninstall any older versions of Legacy before installing Legacy 7.0: 
is inconsistent with your advise below and 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpBackup.asp
Yes, please backup your current family file before installing the new version. 
Before you backup, ...
 
FYI so you can change the page to reflect your comments here.
 
Mark
 
 



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> Re: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 03:26:45 -0700> > 
> It's just simpler for the average person. Since v7 converts your family files 
> > the only way to keep v6 on your computer and to also have v7 would be you 
> now > have to copy family files to new locations. For example you would have 
> to copy > family files from C:\Legacy\Data (v6 files) to C:\Legacy7\Data (v7 
> files).> > If you have pictures in C:\Legacy\Pictures the v7 files will still 
> work. But, > a few months from now when you want to get rid of v6 from your 
> computer because > you never user it any longer you will not be able to 
> remove the v6 folder > because it still contains the pictures. Of course you 
> can move the pictures, > video files, sound files, and other data type items 
> like these over to your v7 > folders. But, now that they are moved you now 
> have to go into Options, > Customize, Locations tab, and click the view 
> Current List of Multimedia > Locations" button and form this screen start 
> changing each of the folders from > the old location to the new location. Or, 
> get tricky and do a global Search > and Replace on PicturePaths.> > Most of 
> the user settings will be retained and a normal user of Legacy simply > 
> installs it and continues to work on famiy history. They don't have to 
> re-setup > everything to their liking.> > I guess it's just several small 
> things that for probably a lot of people on this > list installing to a new 
> folder would be a piece of cake but for many users who > are not very famiiar 
> with computers and getting around software I feel it is > easier for them to 
> just install right over 6.0 which is where it will default > to.> > I simply 
> recommended users install over 6.0 which from our point of view > simplifies 
> tech support calls. The end user only have one copy of Legacy. > Legacy was 
> designed to be installed over the previous version and simply work.> > If you 
> know how to work with files and are pretty good working with Legacy go > 
> ahead and install to a separate folder as it's really not that big of deal 
> and > you will be able to quickly figure out any small thing that needs to be 
> done.> > Either way is fine with me, you choose.> > Thanks> > Ken McGinnis> 
> Millennia Corporation> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com> We 
> are changing the world of genealogy!> > - Original Message - > From: 
> "Wayne Martell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:08 
> AM> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installing version 7> > > > Why do you recommend 
> installing over version 6?> >> > ___> > Wayne 
> Martell> > Victoria, BC, Canada> >> >> > - Original Message - > > 
> From: Ken McGinnis> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Sent: 
> Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:14 PM> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installing version 
> 7> >> >> > As always, make a backup of your family file. Then we recommend 
> that you > > install over the top of Legacy 6.0. Legacy 7.0 will convert your 
> family file > > to a newer format to handle the new sources and other new 
> features.> >> > Thanks> >> > Ken McGinnis> > Millennia Corporation> > [EMAIL 
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[LegacyUG] Installing version 7

2008-06-03 Thread Mark K

I have downloaed version 7 and was wondering if it is best to uninstall version 
6, install to a new directory or simply install over the existing program?
 
Thanks
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