[LegacyUG] Basic versus Sourcewriter Source Entry
I have been a user of the Basic version of source entry and had built my own templates over time I'm comfortable using. Yesteday I thought I'd play around some with the Sourcewriter entry process on my 'Test' database. Today I'm working on my 'Main' database and went to add a new source. The Sourcewriter window opened. I can't find a way to get back to the Basic window option. What am I missing? Thanks for your help. Gary Illinois USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Images---Source and Event
I am having second thoughts pertaining to my event and source methodology. I enter an event, then attach my source evidence to the event---included with the source evidence is an image of the source (census page, birth record, death record, etc). I'm beginning to wonder if I should also attach the same source image to the event itself. I would then have the image attached to both the source and the event to which the source applies. Value in this? Shortcomings? Certainly there is an extra step involved, but perhaps I'm not seeing far enough down stream where having the image attached to both the source and the event would be useful. I'm curious how other Legacy users work this. Thanks Gary O'Fallon IL USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Wide Monitor vs. Old (4:3) Monitor
I use a laptop and desktop simultaneously. Very useful. At the risk of straying too far from Legacy topics, do the users of two desktop screens use only 1 keyboard? Presumably so. I'm not clear how one sets up the computer to accomodate one keyboard and two screens. Or, how Legacy is seen on both screens at the same time. I'm supposing it's different than simply using the split screen view option Legacy offers. I'd welcome anyone contacting me off LUG to share their expertise about simultaneous dual screen use (family.na...@gmail.com). Thanks Gary O'Fallon IL USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Puzzled----Master Location List and Virtual Earth
I work from both a desktop and laptop. As it applies to genealogy I try to keep the two operating identically when I can. When opening the Master Location List on my desktop [View-Master Lists-Location] it opens with the Microsoft Virutal Earth view (Location and People using this location lists at the top of the screen, map at the bottom of the screen). When opening the Master Location List on my laptop it opens with the standard Legacy view, just a list of locations. The Microsoft VIrtual Earth view on my desktop is very nice, I'd love to have the same view on the laptop; but I don't recall configuring my desktop to accept the Virtual Earth view. Am I missing something in the Legacy configuration that is preventing the laptop from presenting the same Virtual Earth view as on the desktop? It's puzzling. Both systems have the latest build, 7.0.0.86. Thanks for any advice you're willing to share. Gary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Puzzled----Master Location List and Virtual Earth
Ron Thanks for your prompt and reliable as always reply. I just now checked the boxes Show People and Show Map on the Master Location Screen and the desktop and laptop screens are now identical. If others aren't aware of this feature, avail yourself of it---it's a worthy addition. Thanks again, Ron. Gary On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:40 AM, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Gary, Have you switched the map on? Bottom, right; Show Map. Ron Ferguson Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:24:49 -0600 Subject: [LegacyUG] PuzzledMaster Location List and Virtual Earth From: family.na...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I work from both a desktop and laptop. As it applies to genealogy I try to keep the two operating identically when I can. When opening the Master Location List on my desktop [View-Master Lists-Location] it opens with the Microsoft Virutal Earth view (Location and People using this location lists at the top of the screen, map at the bottom of the screen). When opening the Master Location List on my laptop it opens with the standard Legacy view, just a list of locations. The Microsoft VIrtual Earth view on my desktop is very nice, I'd love to have the same view on the laptop; but I don't recall configuring my desktop to accept the Virtual Earth view. Am I missing something in the Legacy configuration that is preventing the laptop from presenting the same Virtual Earth view as on the desktop? It's puzzling. Both systems have the latest build, 7.0.0.86. Thanks for any advice you're willing to share. Gary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Use of Picture Center to rename picture files
The reply below sparked interest with me. I thought I exhausted all features of the Picture Center (limited as they are). I didn't realize one could use the Picture Center to rename picture files; I could use this feature from time to time. Excuse my asking if the feature is obvious and I'm merely overlooking it, but where in the Picture Center do you access this feature? Perhaps others would welcome the advice also. Thanks Gary -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009 10:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Limits in a BOOK fixed now organize ideas and HTML When you rename a picture, do it in the Picture Center within Legacy and you don't need to reattach it. If you rename outside of Legacy (in Windows) you will have to reattach the picture. A naming standard is very helpful in organizing your pictures. How do you file your papers? I recommend using the same system for your pictures. I use the MRIN system for all my filing, so I start each picture name with that family's MRIN. It doesn't matter where you store your pictures, but have a plan and stick to it. I use multiple folders under Legacy/Pictures. As I don't yet use the Publication Center or put things on the Internet, I'll leave the other questions to someone else. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Companion--PDF Exchange Driver
Just got a new laptop loaded with Vista. Installed Legacy Charting Companion (v 1.1.2). Tried viewing a chart before printing. Got error notice: Could not find PDF-Exchange Driver I have a Adobe Professional 7.0 loadedone would think I had all the horsepower needed. Any suggestions? Thanks Gary near St Louis MO USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing marriage status -- not possible??
Don Many are hopeful---me certainly included---the Legacy folks fixed this shortcoming in their upcoming revision. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Cook Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing marriage status -- not possible?? The flaw I have found in adding marriage events, is that I see no way to have them included on the Individual Report. To me, it seems like the divorce, or whatever that happens in the marriage, happens to the couple collectively and individually but Millennia doesn't see it that way. Certainly not a biggy but be aware! Don Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Hear. Hear. I would never consider a filing system other than document (item) numbered. Any other way is fraught with problems and extra work. I am surprised by the number of people who follow an MRIN filing system. Perhaps because an expert genealogist suggested itbut not an expert librarian. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Stovold Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Just want to say that I personally would never use a filing system that uses MRIN's or RIN's as the basis. The reason? Several years ago, I did (MRINs) - and then something happened, and all my MRINs got changed. Fortunately, I had on all my file folders the Surname, Firstname, so was able to rearrange them. And even though Legacy is fantastic software, From having done computer genealogy for 20 years now, I realize that the likelyhood is that at some point, there may be a reason that I will need or decide to change software - and my MRIN's and RIN's could get messed up then. As I also got sick of duplicates being required for more than one family, I now use a document numbered system. Has advantages, and of course some disadvantages too. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
A numbering system by document has been addressed several times in the past. A key word search on 'file system' or 'organizing files' should bring up a number of comments. Suffice to say, visit a library in your local city/town---the cataloging/numbering system by document (item) has been in place for a couple hundred+ years. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS We use the MRIN Filing System because we LOVE it. It takes about 5 seconds to print a report from the marriage list showing all names and MRIN's in whatever order you'd like. Granted, having to re-insert them into a database gone awry could be a real pain. I guess we trust Legacy to not bring us to that point. Exporting and importing your database into other software 'should' keep your numbering intact. Having said all that, perhaps you could enlighten us about what a 'document numbered' system is? JL Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]
That all being said--- I don't want to stray too far from the context of the original email plea Why doesn't the function work? Perhaps the Legacy staff can shed some light. Thanks again Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Bienia Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname] If you follow the standard formats used by NEHGS or NGSQ, the maiden name should appear between the given names and the married surname, enclosed in parentheses, although the word née may or may not be required. I have seen it the way you indicate because people entered the married surname as the woman's surname, then entered the maiden name, i.e. (née SIMONSON) into the suffix field. Most genealogy programs don't have separate fields for maiden name and married name, and are set up to have the maiden surname entered into the surname field. Legacy, while it only has a single name, does allow us to set up the child sentence for reports to include the maiden name and the married name. (You can also do this for other sentences, but it is less effective and more difficult to predict results than in the child sentence template.) If a woman had been married several times, the arrangement would be Irene (née SIMONSON) (DOE) (SMITH) ANDREWS Where Doe would have been her first married surname, Smith her second, and Andrews is her last married surname. However, Legacy doesn't have a way to handle this. The best we can do is create a child sentence with her maiden name and her husband's surname. While I wrote the above section on multiple married names, I'm not sure how Legacy would handle that circumstance with the [WifeMarriedSurname] variable. I would expect it would be the married surname in context of the sentence. Bill William H. Bill Bienia, PLCGS Cobblestone Legacies Genealogy and Family History Services PO Box 321, Hillsburgh, ON N0B 1Z0 www.cobblestonelegacies.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]
Susan Thank you for your comments. Your supposition may be accurate. Your comments reminded me of festering issue. I am an advocate of placing the residence of a married couple as an Event under Marriage Information. Regrettably no Marriage Information Events appear on Individual Reports. I don't understand the logic of this. It makes sense to record one address of a couple in one location (as an Event under Marriage Information) than the same address in two separate locations (as an Event under each individual). When running Individual Reports, it would still be appropriate to have the joint marriage events appear on the Individual Reports for both individuals. Not doing so gives a very inaccurate chronological report of significant life events on the Individual Reports. Soin response to your question, no, the event was not created in Marriage Events. I do very little placing of events there because of Legacy's limitation of not having the information appear on Individual Reports. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Daily Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname] Gary - I didn't follow the whole thread, so I'm sorry if this was asked. Was the event created in Marriage Events or Individual Events? I would think it cannot work in Individual Events because the program would not know which marriage to take the surname from. At least a Marriage Event would show which spouse. Susan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Children in Family View
I see the following statement on the Family view screen for one of the children listed: ½ Lillian Danielson [1631] (Circa 1913-) (Laura). I don't understand (or remember) how the (Laura) reference came to be. Can anyone shed light on where a reference in this manner/in this position might come from? Thanks, Gary O'Fallon IL Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Children in Family View
Ah-hathat's it of course! Thanks Ron. I need to clear the cobwebs, my absence from the program for several months is showing. Gary O'Fallon IL USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children in Family View Gary, Obviously because of the 1/2, the child is either step or adopted. To show which mother Legacy shows the first name of the child's mother Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Children in Family View Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 05:43:25 -0600 I see the following statement on the Family view screen for one of the children listed: ½ Lillian Danielson [1631] (Circa 1913-) (Laura). I don't understand (or remember) how the (Laura) reference came to be. Can anyone shed light on where a reference in this manner/in this position might come from? Thanks, Gary O'Fallon IL Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] photo database - off topic
Mary Beth You bring up a very good point about Legacy's photo album limitations. Unlike some others who have responded recently to photo questions, I fully support entering ALL photos you have into Legacy. This would include all the info you have about each photo: names, date, place, etc. It is a good way to connect your photos to the people they represent and have that info all in one place. The downside of all that data entry is the data output. There is no format I'm aware of at this time within Legacy to display each photo with all its relevant information (caption, date, description, file ID, RIN, etc). The Scrapbook does not do this. I'm being patiently optimistic something will be developed. It does not seem to be a monumental task to developit just isn't high enough yet in the priority pecking order. As a holding pattern option, you might consider tapping into the Access database and creating an Access report to present the photos and data info you've entered in Legacy. If I could help you with that I wouldI'm not Access literate enough to do thatbut I do know it's doable. If anyone is capable, or has already done such, I'd greatly appreciate having your report format. Good luck. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Figgins Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:24 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] photo database - off topic Does anyone know of inexpensive software where you can put a copy of a photo and information about the date, place, people in the photo, where the photo came from, etc? Something like a database. I just started using the photos section in Legacy and it is near what I want except it can't be used separately. I would like to be able to search a database for Grandmother and find pictures of her as a child. Or the twins and the chocolate pudding. Or list all those from Larry's photo album. The Legacy picture center is close but I would like something freestanding. Most programs I've looked at only let you do captions. Not the detail I want. I started a database in an old version of Alpha Five but couldn't figure out how to link/import photos. Mary Beth Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Events
Jan You may have noted from the Archives messages related to this subject comments regarding Marriage Events/Facts not appearing on Individual Reports. This, I believe, is a serious enough shortcoming of Legacy to require correcting in the next revision. For those of us who prefer entering Events/Facts of married couples on the Marriage Information screen, events such as joint addresses, ownership of joint property, joint pet ownership, joint travel information, etc., these Events/Facts will not appear on Individual Reports. This can present confusing gaps of missing data when using these Individual Reports. A suggestion has been submitted to provide report options to include Marriage Information Events/Facts on Individual Reports. Until this is done, you must either make duplicate entries on the Individual Information screens, one for each individual of the marriage, thus doubling your entry time and leading to several page FGR reports; or make double entries, one on the Marriage Information screen and one on the Individual Information screens. Far from ideal in either instance. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Stitz Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Events Mike, Jenny, Ron, and Susan, Thank you for your suggestions that you sent on my question. I had been trying different things (like Mike's sandbox idea) using the Preview under the Descendant Narrative Report. I have the basic Legacy program but will later buy the Deluxe version and I wondered if not putting the marriage in the Events/Facts on the Indivdual's page would cause a problem for me in the future in other reports. Thank you again. Jan I have been entering names of people on the Individual's Information Page and have been entering their marriages in the Events/Facts part of the page. Also, I have been entering this information when the marriage information page appears under Events/Facts. I was looking at the Preview under Descendant Narrative Book Report and for a couple, I have this information coming up 3 times - as noted event in her life and noted event in his life as well as noted event in their marriage. I would only like it to come up under noted event in their marriage. If I don't enter the marriage under Events/Facts on the Individual's Information Page will that be a problem for me in any of the other Reports? Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
Bruce I'm glad this issue has resurfaced again. It was discussed briefly back in February (under a 'marriage events' subject), but I don't believe much was concluded. Whether dealing with occupation information or some other Event, a method should be established on each Event entry screen, for instance a box to check as for Private, that would enable each Event entered to appear both in the marriage view and the individual view, and then also appear on reports (FGR and Individual). Now, I realize the downside to this is the appearance of identical information on the FRG report under individual and marriage event areas. This could be remedied by permitting a suppression option under Report Options if one preferred to keep the information from appearing in both areas. An address event is a classic example. If entered under the marriage event screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen (nor on the individual report). As Bruce implied, not having Event information available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood sequence of Events in a person's life. The current workaround for this is to enter the same information twice, once on the marriage event screen and once on the individual event screen; or, don't make such entries under Marriage Events. I don't believe either is necessary given computer technology. Interested to hear the positions of others on this. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events Bruce, I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a Marriage Event. The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over Europe and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in London. I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in hotels miles away from their families. Ron Ferguson From: Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700 I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events. I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage. Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events. Then I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage would not match where he lived at that time. The Residence Events after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report. How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for Resident Employment (and other) Events? Thanks, Bruce Jones Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
Russ We're not talking about current residence here. We're talking about an historical account of residences throughout one's life. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R G Strong Genealogy Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:57 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events Be advised that the address house icon on the marriage event screen was designed to be used to record the address where the marriage took place not the peoples address. You should still use the address Icon on the individual's screen. If you put their current address in each individual's screen then when you do an address list report you should check the option to not print duplicate address. To show address of couple in the marriage event screen one would use the Residence event definition instead. Russ - Original Message - From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events Bruce .. An address event is a classic example. If entered under the marriage event screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen (nor on the individual report). As Bruce implied, not having Event information available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood sequence of Events in a person's life. .. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events Bruce, I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a Marriage Event. The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over Europe and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in London. I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in hotels miles away from their families. Ron Ferguson From: Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700 I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events. I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage. Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events. Then I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage would not match where he lived at that time. The Residence Events after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report. How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for Resident Employment (and other) Events? Thanks, Bruce Jones Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail- archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical
RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
You are correct Mary. And as you suggest, why a simple, non-specific (generic) File ID is useful---such as P0001 (Photograph), D0001 (Document), N0001 (Newspaper), B0001 (Bldg/Monument), C0001 (Census), L0001 (Letter/Correspondence), R0001 (Recording), etc. The File ID can then be attached to as many individuals as applicable. What method do you use to create a report of File IDs and Individuals? Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing And what do you do for pictures of more than 1 person? And what about cemetery monuments that have more than 1 person on it? And what about documents that have more than 1 person on them, such as a Census? Thats why I have chosen to do all of my file names (documents and photos) generic. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny V Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:17 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and documents for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format; LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for individuals, LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages, DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for Documents, Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc. Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people of the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash. I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with relatives they are very easily located. Hope this helps John Valencic On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to keep digital copies of your original. This would then become your 'master copy'. From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem appropriate for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc). As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary. I have one folder under my Legacy directory titled Images. Within this folder I have several sub-folders. My preference is to keep all 'people' images in one sub-folder titled Photograph. I also have digital images of buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census records, documents, etc. These are also all filed in separate sub-folders according to their subject category. How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference. I prefer a simple numbering system (File ID). For example, my Photographs are labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on. My Documents are labeled D0001, D0002, D0003, and so on. The same applies to my other image categories. Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image fields such as Caption, Date, Description, and File ID. And also permits assigning images to specific individuals. This is where I record the necessary details about each image. Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this information. The report sorts by File ID. Suggestions have been submitted to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options. Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of the images. Many people use MS Access since Access is directly compatible with Legacy's data base. However, this requires a reasonable understanding of the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the desired reports. Not a lighthearted undertaking. Once Legacy establishes a more sophisticated report capability for images, the process will be simple and efficient. If I can help further with any specific questions, feel free to email me directly. Gary O'Fallon IL, USA Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
Mary Yes; that currently is the only option without using a supplemental program. Hopefully the Legacy staff will include additional Image/File ID report options in the next release given the popularity of attaching images to individuals and Source detail. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing Gary, I have used the FILE ID report under Miscellaneous Reports. I'm not aware of any other. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing You are correct Mary. And as you suggest, why a simple, non-specific (generic) File ID is useful---such as P0001 (Photograph), D0001 (Document), N0001 (Newspaper), B0001 (Bldg/Monument), C0001 (Census), L0001 (Letter/Correspondence), R0001 (Recording), etc. The File ID can then be attached to as many individuals as applicable. What method do you use to create a report of File IDs and Individuals? Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing And what do you do for pictures of more than 1 person? And what about cemetery monuments that have more than 1 person on it? And what about documents that have more than 1 person on them, such as a Census? Thats why I have chosen to do all of my file names (documents and photos) generic. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny V Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:17 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and documents for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format; LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for individuals, LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages, DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for Documents, Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc. Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people of the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash. I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with relatives they are very easily located. Hope this helps John Valencic On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to keep digital copies of your original. This would then become your 'master copy'. From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem appropriate for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc). As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary. I have one folder under my Legacy directory titled Images. Within this folder I have several sub-folders. My preference is to keep all 'people' images in one sub-folder titled Photograph. I also have digital images of buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census records, documents, etc. These are also all filed in separate sub-folders according to their subject category. How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference. I prefer a simple numbering system (File ID). For example, my Photographs are labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on. My Documents are labeled D0001, D0002, D0003, and so on. The same applies to my other image categories. Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image fields such as Caption, Date, Description, and File ID. And also permits assigning images to specific individuals. This is where I record the necessary details about each image. Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this information. The report sorts by File ID. Suggestions have been submitted to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options. Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of the images. Many people use MS Access since Access is directly compatible with Legacy's data base. However, this requires a reasonable understanding of the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the desired reports. Not a lighthearted undertaking. Once Legacy
RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
A filing (or catalog) system, which includes the process of numbering originals and digitial images, is just that---a filing system. It is intended to catalog items for easy/effiicient retrieval. It is not a genealogy system to identify relationships---Legacy performs that mission quite well. Expecting more from your file numbering system than where an item is located is fraught with unwieldy complications. A simple acid test when considering file numbering systems is the number of copies needed of an original. If more than one copy of an original is needed, the system should be rethought. Any numbering system which contains a name or is associated to an individual, by its nature will require multiple copies when more than one person appears or is mentioned. When multiple copies begin appearing, your filing system has become inefficient and will eventually become ineffective. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loran Braught Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: Loran AAVBRAUGHT Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing As mentioned previously, I file almost everything using a basic Ahnentafel numbering system (not maps; they are by state/county, and not census; they are by year/state/county). The main advantages are filing by ancestry (starting with #1 and working back each generation) rather than descendancy; plus easily identifying people by their generation relationship. Ancestral recording generations from present back any ancestors is the logical order of researching. All descendancy systems depend upon selecting one ancestor and start from that person recording to present . Another advantage is seeing everyone as related to others of each generation (RIN/MRIN offer no display of relationships) and depend entirely upon computer searching (randomly scrambled in a file cabinet). Even correspondence files can be stored or/and recorded by Ahnentafel; then sub-filed alphabetically by the name of the correspondence for that Ahnentafel number. The disadvantages are seeing some descendants with long ID numbers (but they still show relationship) and having to individually assigning the correct (User ID in Legacy) Ahnentafel ID numbers. Maybe some day some genealogy program will consider accommodating that entire numbering system to match the standard Ahnentafel numbers from every pedigree chart). In regard to Photos; just organize the photo album by Ahnentafel numbers. In the case of group photos I cross reference everyone in the photo to the eldest known direct line ancestor in that photo (of course this means that different surname albums are created). As for documents, the Ahnentafel numbers work just great, although I separate notebooks of vitals from other documents and subdivide other documents into major categories such as military, religious, occupation, etc. to suit my needs (but all of those are in the same ahnentafel numbered notebook for that surname. Incidentally, I also use the basic color coding for surnames to keep my paternal direct surname line files, notebooks, and photo albums in blue, etc. Finally I am certain of only one thing about organizing our genealogy records: there must be sufficient time devoted to the task. I find that less than two hours per month for nothing but organizing is my bare minimum. If I am hot into research time, I have to reserve at least 1/10 of my time to organize what I am collecting. Loran Ralph Braught [EMAIL PROTECTED] (812) 535-3618 8380 N. Crestwood Pl West Terre Haute, IN 47885 Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley - Original Message - From: Johnny V To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and documents for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format; LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for individuals, LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages, DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for Documents, Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc. Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people of the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash. I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with relatives they are very easily located. Hope this helps John Valencic On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to keep digital copies of your original. This would then become your 'master copy'. From that you
RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
Sally Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way' to keep digital copies of your original. This would then become your 'master copy'. From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem appropriate for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc). As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary. I have one folder under my Legacy directory titled Images. Within this folder I have several sub-folders. My preference is to keep all 'people' images in one sub-folder titled Photograph. I also have digital images of buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census records, documents, etc. These are also all filed in separate sub-folders according to their subject category. How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference. I prefer a simple numbering system (File ID). For example, my Photographs are labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on. My Documents are labeled D0001, D0002, D0003, and so on. The same applies to my other image categories. Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image fields such as Caption, Date, Description, and File ID. And also permits assigning images to specific individuals. This is where I record the necessary details about each image. Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this information. The report sorts by File ID. Suggestions have been submitted to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options. Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of the images. Many people use MS Access since Access is directly compatible with Legacy's data base. However, this requires a reasonable understanding of the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the desired reports. Not a lighthearted undertaking. Once Legacy establishes a more sophisticated report capability for images, the process will be simple and efficient. If I can help further with any specific questions, feel free to email me directly. Gary O'Fallon IL, USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Macias Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing I'm trying to figure out how to organize the pictures. With an HP scanner the image goes to the HP Solutions Center which apparently stores the scans by date. I've been opening them and doing some modest editing, then saving them in TIFF format to an external hard drive. Then I open the tiff images in Photoshop Elements and do more dramatic editing and save as jpeg on external drive, in folder of edited images, to post to MyFamily website and to use in email. This seems like a lot of manipulating for each image and at this point I still have to add the image to Legacy. I've got multiple copies of each image but not really a backup since they're in different formats and stages of editing and sizes. Before adding too many more I need to figure out a filing system--in separate family folders, lastnamefirstname+brief description or date if I have it, is what I'm thinking so far. Is there a better way to do this? What are the rest of you doing to organize your photos, what programs are you using? Sally Macias Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Ergo the reason I use the area thought to be intended specifically for this purpose, Alternate Names, which provides ample space for multiple AKAs. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Martell Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names What do people do when there is more than one known as name as is the case with my daughter. Her full name is Kathryn Andrea Martell. Some people call her Kathryn, some call her Kathy, some call her Kate, and I usually call her Kath. She responds to all of them apparently not even noticing which one is being used. I haven't tested it but I am assuming that putting in more than one quoted name would simply confuse Legacy and lead to confused and erratic results. Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
And in regard to 'known as' names---I have been placing these names under the Alternate Names feature of Legacy, and using quotes around them. For instance if the individual's name is William John Smith, but he goes by Billy, I enter Billy in the Alternate Given Name block. Is this not where such should be placed?? Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Mason Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names Mary I agree with you. If his name is John Paul SMITH and he is known as John then his name is simply entered as John Paul SMITH. However if he is known as Paul then he should be John Paul Paul SMITH. Thus, if he is John Paul Paul SMITH, in Reports, if you chose Remove quoted given names he shows as John Paul SMITH, an if you ALSO choose Use quoted given names for narratives he will he referred to as Paul. Cheers gm Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
The only down side I can see by displaying the name as you do is the question whether Paul, in the name John Paul Smith, is actually a middle name or just a 'known as' name. By displaying it John Paul Paul Smith, there is absolutely no question that Paul is the middle name as well as the 'known as' name. Personally, I use the latter. But, in the method described in my earlier email. By placing the 'known as' name in the Alternate Name area of Legacy. Thinking this was the area designed for such use. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Hagen Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names I have been doing it the way you do it, Myrna, and I like it that way. Unless there is a rule that says it should be done the other way, I will leave mine the way it is. Mary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names Well shoot! Now I have to go change mine again. I assumed that using the quoted name, i.e, John Paul Smith would be correct. So far on the few reports I have done where I told it to use quoted names it has been correct. Now you are telling me that I need to go back and put in the full given name then in quotes put the call name, i.e., John Paul Paul Smith? The only time I have done this is when it is a nickname and not part of the given name. As the commercial says Someone please help me. Tell me it is okay! Myrna Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Shame on me for taking the literal interpretation of Also Known As to mean also known as. So if John Paul Smith was also known as Paul, then that's how I entered him, AKA Paul. And this entry went into the Alternate Name area. Disappointing to now learn those many, many dozens of AKAs should have been placed elsewhere if I wanted them to be seen in reports. To me the logical conclusion would be providing a report option that would include names listed in the Alternate Name area in reports if so desired. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names Hi Gary, If you put the known as name in the AKA, you cannot choose to use it in narrative. So your narratives will read: John married John worked in the railways If you use the Quoted Name you'll get Paul married Paul worked in the railways. AKAs - other names for someone. Quoted Name - the name they were known by that you wish to use in a report. Confusion: Nicknames may be both. Cathy At 08:41 AM 23/02/2007, you wrote: The only down side I can see by displaying the name as you do is the question whether Paul, in the name John Paul Smith, is actually a middle name or just a 'known as' name. By displaying it John Paul Paul Smith, there is absolutely no question that Paul is the middle name as well as the 'known as' name. Personally, I use the latter. But, in the method described in my earlier email. By placing the 'known as' name in the Alternate Name area of Legacy. Thinking this was the area designed for such use. Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail
Thanks Nick. The process though a little clunky seems functional enough. Certainly beats restroking it all over again. Now to remember where all those Source Details were previously used so they can be revisited when needed. Is there an insiders trick I'm not seeing to that (without getting into a major discussion on Source defining)? Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Cirillo Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Source Detail I know this has been covered in other answers but this is what I do: If I want to pickup a source and detail entered anytime in the past, I go to that item, highlight it, and push the Clipboard symbol (those things that look like two papers on top of each other in the lower left screen.) This will erase whatever has been on the Clipboard and will ask you if you want to include the Details, which you would answer yes. Then you go to where you want this Source/Detail group, highlight the line and push the small line under the triangle. The Source and detail will be deposited there. I hope I made myself clear. Learning this trick has saved a lot of time doing the various manipulations mentioned in some of the answers. Nick Cirillo Fairfax, VA Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon
Ron The icon (perhaps 'image' would have been a better word use) I was referring to is that which appears in the Picture Gallery after you attach a file. I changed the image to something of my own creation. The Legacy Button icon on the right side of the screen in Picture Gallery still says 'Video'. However, now when I attach a file using that button my own image choice appears in the Picture Gallery frame. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:29 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon Gary, There seems to be some misunderstanding here. If you are suggesting that somebody said that the sound or video icons could be replaced by another *now* from within Legacy then they were wrong as this is not possible. I thought that it was suggested that perhaps another icon eg. Other could be added at some time in the future. I suppose that it imay be possible to replace the video icon with one designed by yourself (or 'pinched' from another program) but off the cuff I think it would still say video in the box underneath Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Replace Sound or Video Icon Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:56:06 -0600 This is rather a cosmetic issue, but could serve to avoid confusion. A while back it was implied Sound and Video icons used by Legacy could be replaced by some other icon, for instance one more reflective of a .PDF file attachment. I don't presently have videos to attach so would opt to replace the current video icon with some other. If down the road Legacy decides to include a .PDF attachment option I could then switch back. Would someone please explain the process to replace the video icon either on LUG or through a direct reply to me. Thanks Gary _ Upload 500 photos a month blog with your Messenger buddies on Windows Live Spaces. Get yours now, FREE! http://specials.uk.msn.com/spaces/default.aspx Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail- archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for?
Ron I smiled when I read your email and Dick's. I go back a ways too---1982, Family Roots, Apple IIc. Before that it was exclusively stubby pencil and paper. The 1982 days saw the barest of bones for a computer genealogy program---but, oh my, it was SO much better than that ole stubby pencil. I remember my grandmother complaining of the first automobiles--who needed radios and windshield wipers? What would she would think of today's cars with DVD screens and voice navigation systems. And electric starters!! Why that ole handcrank worked just fine. Those days do have an air of romantic charm. Life sans indoor plumbing, refrigeration, electricity, telephones, gas engines, central heat, Legacy 7.0. Bawho needs it! ;) Gary p.s. excuse the duplicate posting if indeed this is, I didn't see the original post come through. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for? Following recent suggestions for additions to Legacy I received the email below from a long standing user of Legacy. As his views broadly speaking reflect mine I thought members of LUG may be interested in an alternative perspective. Ron Ferguson From : dlks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent : 14 February 2007 20:48:53 To : CC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : RE: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center suggestion ... I've been a LEGACY user / supporter since their first version in the early '90s and am always amazed with how ... in every new version ... they are adding more and more features to what SHOULD be a Family History / Genealogy program ... mainly to satisfy people who don't want to ( or are unable to ) use / invest in a word processor, photo editing, etc. etc., program(s), but are always demanding that tools like those be added to the program. All the arguments about being needed and / or ( maybe ) useful might be valid for some, but just tend to clutter up and detract from the programs intended function ... that of a Genealogy program. All the postings on the users group site tend to reflect that by all the confusion all these additions are causing. I am not subscribed to the list, because I got tired of reading all the wish list and endless complaints because something can't be figured out postings ... I periodically read the list archives and find many of the postings borderline comical. It makes me wonder how these people even find time to actually DO any Family History research, and what they would do if they had to use the old before computers pencil, paper, phone, and mail method of research. Please ... leave the program as it's intended to be! Dick Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for?
Ron I smiled when I read your email and Dick's. I go back a ways too---1982, Family Roots, Apple IIc. Before that it was exclusively stubby pencil and paper. The 1982 days saw the barest of bones for a computer genealogy program---but, oh my, it was SO much better than that ole stubby pencil. I remember my grandmother complaining of the first automobiles--who needed radios and windshield wipers? What would she would think of today's cars with DVD screens and voice navigation systems. And electric starters!! Why that ole handcrank worked just fine. Those days do have an air of romantic charm. Life sans indoor plumbing, refrigeration, electricity, telephones, gas engines, central heat, Legacy 7.0. Bawho needs it! :) Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy - What is it for? Following recent suggestions for additions to Legacy I received the email below from a long standing user of Legacy. As his views broadly speaking reflect mine I thought members of LUG may be interested in an alternative perspective. Ron Ferguson From : dlks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent : 14 February 2007 20:48:53 To : CC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : RE: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center suggestion ... I've been a LEGACY user / supporter since their first version in the early '90s and am always amazed with how ... in every new version ... they are adding more and more features to what SHOULD be a Family History / Genealogy program ... mainly to satisfy people who don't want to ( or are unable to ) use / invest in a word processor, photo editing, etc. etc., program(s), but are always demanding that tools like those be added to the program. All the arguments about being needed and / or ( maybe ) useful might be valid for some, but just tend to clutter up and detract from the programs intended function ... that of a Genealogy program. All the postings on the users group site tend to reflect that by all the confusion all these additions are causing. I am not subscribed to the list, because I got tired of reading all the wish list and endless complaints because something can't be figured out postings ... I periodically read the list archives and find many of the postings borderline comical. It makes me wonder how these people even find time to actually DO any Family History research, and what they would do if they had to use the old before computers pencil, paper, phone, and mail method of research. Please ... leave the program as it's intended to be! Dick researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT Visit my website at: http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog* - Improve Colour Photos with The GIMP Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ _ Upload 500 photos a month blog with your Messenger buddies on Windows Live Spaces. Get yours now, FREE! http://specials.uk.msn.com/spaces/default.aspx Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail- archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Indiviual Report and Marriage Events
In a previous email, sorry at the time it wasn't an issue so didn't save it, it was mentioned marriage events will not appear on individual reports. I shrugged it off. After a little more thought it occurred to me I've been putting addresses in marriage events when the addresses applied to both husband and wife. I realize an Individual Report is an 'Individual' Report. However, doesn't marriage information also apply to each 'Individual'?? It would seem appropriate to include marriage information to have a complete record of events affecting each individual on the Individual Report. I suppose the consequence is then having duplicate information on the Individual Reports for both husband and wife. But I'd rather that than not have the information on either. Thoughts? Work arounds (other than not using marriage events for information I'd like appearing on Individual Reports)?? Thanks Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos
Sherry Can you tell me when the Sources CD will be ready for shipping? Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos Peggy, Thanks!! The training videos are really popular and I'm always hearing from users about how much they have helped them to enjoy Legacy even more! It's easy to get started with Legacy on your own, but the training videos add a whole other dimension to using the program. We're really lucky to have Geoff as our trainer g If any of you haven't seen them yet, you can go to http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Videos.asp to view the list of videos available. There are a lot more than four now! Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos
Thanks Sherry, will do. The Sources training video is not available. All this talk has me jazzed about getting it now. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Highly Recommend the Training Videos Gary, I have no idea what any shipping status is. You'll have to contact Sales about that. Their email address is mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and their phone number for US and Canada is 1-800-753-3453. Pegi is on vacation this week but Janelle or Bryan can help you. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
Ron Getting back to your reply regarding .pdf versus .jpg. For multiple page images, such as letters, do you have another solution to adding them as images in a single file other than .pdf? Thanks Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG Gary, I wouldn't. I can see no advatages at all, only the minuses. Ron Ferguson _ From: Olds-will-anderson-simonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:26:38 -0600 [Snip] Would anyone care to share their opinion of the advantage of attaching files as .PDF rather than .JPG? The example I'll use is a census page. Why would one rather attach a .PDF of a census page rather than a .JPG of the same image? The same question would apply to other images such as letters, documents, etc. [Snip] Gary Near St Louis MO USA Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Adoption
I checked the archives, but still am not certain of the consensus regarding this situation. Child's biological father dies while child is an infant. Mother remarries while child is still a baby. New husband adopts child while child is still a baby. Child now assumes same surname as adopted father. Yet, child still shows as 1/2 child among his siblings and sorts at end of sibling list. Is there a commonly accepted means to grant full child status to this adopted child? Or, should that never occur out of proper recording methodology? One other twist--- As currently stands in my data base, this adopted child shows as 1/2 child among his siblings. And his siblings show as 1/2 children under their mother's first marriage. However, husband of first marriage died before any other those children were born. I am missing the method to make this right. I tried delinking children, but this only delinked the children from the mother as well--not my intended move. How is this handled? Thanks again for allowing me to retill what likely has been covered before but not easily identified in the archives. Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
Dale Thanks for your thorough explanation. If you and others don't mind I would appreciate your advice with a couple more image related issues that affect my Legacy workings. I will soon be wrapping up my scanning and attaching photographs, thankfully. It has been a huge undertaking as my photo inventory is in the thousands. I'm thankful to have all these old family photos, but identifying, dating, and numbering each seemed never-ending. These were all single page images as most photos are. Soon I will be scanning letters, multiple page images. Do you have a recommendation on how best to accomplish this if the intent is to attach these multiple page images to Legacy? I'd prefer attaching each multiple page letter as a single file. The second question relates to .TIF versus .JPG. I realize .TIF files offer greater detail than .JPGs, but result in larger file sizes. In your opinion given most original images fall within the size range of 2x4 to 8x10 inches, what advantage would there be to using .TIF for Legacy images (if printing back to original size is all that is desired)? And a follow-up, in your opinion what is the most practical .JPG scan resolution needed for this size? I don't mean for this to get into a .TIF versus .JPG debate, it is likely purists would support the .TIF argument if space limitations were of no consequence. But even if space is not an issue, I'm wondering if there is a point of diminishing return given the more common acceptance of .JPG images. Particularly given the intent of only restoring an image to its original size (normally up to an 8x10). Sorry if you feel this stretches the limit of the Legacy UserGroup list, but to me getting the image thing as close to right, up front, will prevent spending time correcting how they were posted to Legacy later. Thanks again for everyone's opinion. Hope others will also find the answers useful. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG Sara and Others: I have been following this discussion with interest, trying to decide whether I wanted to add my two cents to this discussion. I am a retired printer and could write a book on using the proper type of files. But I will try to keep this short. First let me say that I am a big fan of PDF files. They are very reliable and are not really slow, when used in the proper way. As to the application (scanned census page) that started this discussion, no do not use a PDF(Portable Document File). The key thing here is document not image. If the file is a scanned file i.e. image or picture then a JPG or TIF would be the desired format. A PDF is used to transport a whole page or pages of a document. It is usually the result of printing a document not scanning it. While it may contain images(pictures) it is usually mostly text. It should be noted that most of the printed items that you received in the mail were probably a PDF file at sometime. As to using PDFs as web pages, the display will be somewhat slower then a jpeq, if the PDF was printed and not scanned it will generally be clearer. The advantage of making PDF files rather the making HTML files is that the PDF file is a single file. I could go on, but that should be enough for now. Dale -- Original message -- From: Sara Binkley Tarpley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I dislike pdf files, finding them slow to load and unreliable. Sara Binkley Tarpley Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View'
While entering General Notes from the Family screen it occurred to me I may need some method of identifying which Source applies to which note since the notes run on. Is there a common method in practice for linking a note statement to Source? I thought perhaps prefacing the new note paragraph with a notation such as Note 1 would work, then referencing Note 1 in Source Detail. Thoughts? Further. If using the above method (Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, etc), should it be necessary to make a note private, it could be an obvious omission if the note references skipped from Note 3 to Note 5 for instance in an individual's report. Has anyone run across this possibility and discovered a way to avoid it? Thanks Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View'
Thank you Glen. I see your point and now realize that would be the correct way to proceed. General Notes, Research and Medical appear to have means to associate only a single Source each to. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Ballard Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View' Gary, I use events. You can put separate notes in separate events and source each event. Glen Ballard --- P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=3AV63La --- - Original Message - From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes in 'Family View' While entering General Notes from the Family screen it occurred to me I may need some method of identifying which Source applies to which note since the notes run on. Is there a common method in practice for linking a note statement to Source? I thought perhaps prefacing the new note paragraph with a notation such as Note 1 would work, then referencing Note 1 in Source Detail. Thoughts? Further. If using the above method (Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, etc), should it be necessary to make a note private, it could be an obvious omission if the note references skipped from Note 3 to Note 5 for instance in an individual's report. Has anyone run across this possibility and discovered a way to avoid it? Thanks Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
Ron Thanks. I agree with you but saw so much communication regarding use of .PDF files attached to Sources and within the Picture Gallery I thought there was something I was missing. As Heather pointed out perhaps .PDF is the only file version you have, but it seems to me even they could be converted to .JPG to keep file types to a convenient minimum. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG Gary, I wouldn't. I can see no advatages at all, only the minuses. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *Use Legacy Search - see My Blogs* Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: Olds-will-anderson-simonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:26:38 -0600 I attempted to locate this answer using the archives, but alas there were just too many .jpg subject titles to wade through. Forgive me for repeating what must have been asked and answered before. Would anyone care to share their opinion of the advantage of attaching files as .PDF rather than .JPG? The example I'll use is a census page. Why would one rather attach a .PDF of a census page rather than a .JPG of the same image? The same question would apply to other images such as letters, documents, etc. Thanks again for responding to a question likely already answered but missed. Gary Near St Louis MO USA _ MSN Hotmail is evolving - check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG
Cathy Thanks for responding. I hadn't considered possible advantages of using .PDFs for webpages (I'm not there yet) if indeed there are any. Of course converting Forms to a .PDF that can be filled in electronically by a recipient and emailed back is certainly a plus. But even there, once received the .PDF I believe could be converted to .JPG if you wanted to use the Form as a Source attachment. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] .PDF versus .JPG PDFs can't be included in Legacy Reports, JPGs can - though for Census images usually at an unreadable size unless you organise them so that you can add a Scrapbook to a Book in the Publishing Centre. I don't know about including the PDFs in webpages. JPGs are straightforward - and when clicked can be readable as you can choose original size for the enlarged image - (you'd need to make sure that attached pics weren't bigger than necessary). Cathy At 07:26 AM 27/01/2007, you wrote: I attempted to locate this answer using the archives, but alas there were just too many .jpg subject titles to wade through. Forgive me for repeating what must have been asked and answered before. Would anyone care to share their opinion of the advantage of attaching files as .PDF rather than .JPG? The example I'll use is a census page. Why would one rather attach a .PDF of a census page rather than a .JPG of the same image? The same question would apply to other images such as letters, documents, etc. Thanks again for responding to a question likely already answered but missed. Gary Near St Louis MO USA Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Who has used Clooz (with or without Legacy)
Heather I experimented with Clooz, older version and 2.0. I would not have gotten 2.0 if it weren't for getting it free (because of when I purchased the older version). Although I applaud Elizabeth Kerstens' filing methodology, using the program along with Legacy results in double-entry recordkeeping. In other words, after the initial merge of files between Legacy and Clooz, every record entered into either program after that point must also be restroked into the other program. The value of Clooz thus comes at the expense of time and accuracy. With just a few seemingly simple additions to the Legacy program, most of the important features offered by Clooz could be done more efficiently within the Legacy program. If it were me, rather than spending time learning to navigate through Clooz and entering reams of redundant data I would hold off and use the existing Legacy file system tools, and wait until a few more refinements are added. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Stovold Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Who has used Clooz (with or without Legacy) I was wondering who had used Clooz? I know I read a few people here that said that they had used it for a bit, but stopped Had those people used the newer version 2, or an older version? What problems did you have that made you decide not to use it? Is there anyone here that is still using it and loves it? If you are using Clooz 2, did you set it to use your Legacy database directly, or it's own? If you have it use it's own - do you have to re-enter everything? can you access it in legacy, to do a drag-drop on a split-screen view? If you use it directly with your Legacy database, do you like how it formats sources? Do you find that you end up with a lot of people that you don't know are related in your Legacy database? I ended up using my trial time up before I'd really tried it, because I was worried about putting in a lot of effort entering information that I wouldn't be able to access if I decided not to use it, or when the time was up. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Marriage events
How common is it among this group to use Events on the Marriage screen to record common activities of the marriage? For instance, I've been considering as a Marriage event our ownership of our pets. This is only one example that could lead to other joint ownership/participation events. I'm curious how common this already is, and what shortcomings or advantages other might think of the concept. Except for perhaps honeymoon or other such strictly Marriage related activities, what other events do people record in this area? Thanks Gary Near St Louis MO USA Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail
WHAT!!?? I was afraid this was the answer. As wonderful as this program is for the collection-storage-retrieval of genealogy data (and it truly is), we have some ways to go to be fully useful for source record management---the full other half of the genealogy equation as Geoff will attest to. I wrestle with these issues being over-the-edge for a program designed to keep names, dates, and places in one sock. Maybe it's too much to expect of one program. But Legacy is nearly there--it is SOOO close--with just a few modifications it would be the total package. Shaky gap-filling programs like Clooz would be yesterday's news. Or, worse, using data base programs like Access or OO Base to mess with data structure wouldn't be necessary. PLEASE, along with GLOBAL CHANGE OPTION FOR PICTURE CENTER and ALPHABETIZED FILE-ID REPORT, please add PICTURE CENTER TO LINK PICTURES TO SOURCE DETAIL to your writing campaign (Suggest A New Feature).Lots of voices will be heard. These three features will move Legacy to the next level in your genealogy record management world. If you have any questions on how much these features would improve your genealogy record collection or would like a method of phrasing any of these for Suggest A New Feature, please email me off LUG. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:17 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail Sorry Gary, Currently there isn't another way (I guess there is if you're an Access expert but I'm not) If you don't include the Source Detail picture when you first use the source, it's a mind blowing tedious job which you've described very well. I decided not to face it - especially since Source pictures can't really be included in a Report in a readable format. I don't know about web pages as I haven't used them. I just have my digital sources filed in a structure that makes them easy for me to find if and when I want to refer to them again. Cathy At 02:45 PM 7/01/2007, you wrote: And while on the subject of Picture Center issues--- Am I missing something or is it not possible to assign photos to Source Detail from within the Picture Center? I looked for an hour trying to figure out a way to attach photos to Source Details using some method besides going to every individual record. Couldn't find a way. Consequently, I spent the next 4 hours attaching several dozen photos, PLUS restroking every Caption, Date, Description, and FileID for every photo to every record. This is nuts. Certainly there has be to a way other than this tediously slow and error prone method. Please help, tell me there is. I have hundreds of more images to attach to hundreds of Source Details. Thanks Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail
Sorry Bob. Wish I could agree with you. There are times it is appropriate to have many voices to be heard. Fact of the matter is suggesting a new Legacy feature is no different than anything else. Far more emphasis will be placed on an issue if many are interested than if only one. It's common sense, it's life. Attend a city council meeting sometime and see what I mean. Personally I wouldn't want Legacy spending time on issues only of interest to me. They need to know MANY are interested in these features. This IS when it's appropriate for many to speak. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara wrote: PLEASE, along with GLOBAL CHANGE OPTION FOR PICTURE CENTER and ALPHABETIZED FILE-ID REPORT, please add PICTURE CENTER TO LINK PICTURES TO SOURCE DETAIL to your writing campaign (Suggest A New Feature). If you have submitted these requests, the staff are already aware of them. I hardly think that annoying the heck out of them with a ballot-stuffing campaign will prove to be more effective. Lots of voices will be heard. If it were that simple, we would have been able to enter same-sex partnerships a very long time ago, since that requires no new code but merely the removal of an inappropriate edit check. If you have any questions on how much these features would improve your genealogy record collection or would like a method of phrasing any of these for Suggest A New Feature, please email me off LUG. Spam is not the answer. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail
I'm not about to start debating the merits of public opinion and ways to address issues. Suffice to say, there are issues that affect a few, that affect segments, that affect all. These are issues affecting ALL Legacy users, not a few or segments. Whether you speak Chinese or Punjabi, have 1 same-sex partnership to deal with or 10. I'm sorry these issues aren't getting addressed by the Legacy staffers as quickly as those segments would like. These are global issues affecting everyone, they need fixing. The way to make the point of the impact these issues have on proper documentation is to weigh in with your vote. Not sitting on your hands. So this list doesn't make up the majority of Legacy users. I'd wager to say this group is among the most engaged and aware. Proportionately, their numbers speak volumes. A valuable resource for the Legacy staffers. Speak up, use the tool Legacy provides to be heard. Oh, and the last remark from me on this issue: To suggest that many people commenting on the value of needed improvements is on the same plane as spam is a terribly faulty analogy, and troubling. Back to joining the rest, posting our source pictures, record by record, word by word. ;) Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail My guess is that this group's membership comprises only a very small proportion of the number of users of Legacy and in my view it would be extremely presumptious to make the assumption that even if a significant number of group members submitted such a request it would be statistically significant. It is quite likely that for some nations translation into their own language would have a much higher priority and I can think of other illustrations of priorities - not forgetting my continual gripe about the bugs in the pedigree web page program. I agree completely that spamming is not the way ahead - it merely wastes time that can be better spent. The debate has taken place, the suggestion has been made and no doubt the powers that be are aware of it. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *Use Legacy Search - see My Blogs* Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:45:31 -0600 Sorry Bob. Wish I could agree with you. There are times it is appropriate to have many voices to be heard. Fact of the matter is suggesting a new Legacy feature is no different than anything else. Far more emphasis will be placed on an issue if many are interested than if only one. It's common sense, it's life. Attend a city council meeting sometime and see what I mean. Personally I wouldn't want Legacy spending time on issues only of interest to me. They need to know MANY are interested in these features. This IS when it's appropriate for many to speak. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara wrote: PLEASE, along with GLOBAL CHANGE OPTION FOR PICTURE CENTER and ALPHABETIZED FILE-ID REPORT, please add PICTURE CENTER TO LINK PICTURES TO SOURCE DETAIL to your writing campaign (Suggest A New Feature). If you have submitted these requests, the staff are already aware of them. I hardly think that annoying the heck out of them with a ballot-stuffing campaign will prove to be more effective. Lots of voices will be heard. If it were that simple, we would have been able to enter same-sex partnerships a very long time ago, since that requires no new code but merely the removal of an inappropriate edit check. If you have any questions on how much these features would improve your genealogy record collection or would like a method of phrasing any of these for Suggest A New Feature, please email me off LUG. Spam is not the answer. _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e -4911fb2b2e6d Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more
RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records
David, et al I already have a suggestion to this effect submitted. EVERYONE should submit a suggestion to this effect. It has universal application to all Legacy users. A lone voice often goes unheard, the roar of a crowd seldom goes unnoticed. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David S Brookes Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:15 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records Hi Gary, Jan, Cathy I have also noticed this and agree entirely with the mails. I did sometime ago make a suggestion to make this change to the software so that there is a global option. If please send an e-mail to 'suggest a new feature', this would then back-up my original suggestion, and perhaps within the fullness of time, we might get this (as far as I'm concerned) much needed change. It would make my use of the software much easier. Best wishes to all David Polesworth N.Warks. England -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Roberts Sent: 06 January 2007 00:12 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records I agree - I have often added info to a photo AFTER I have attached it to someone, and it is a pain having to find everyone with the same photo attached so I can individually add the same information. Cheers, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [Jan Roberts] -snip - I would prefer seeing a global change option made available when using the Picture List tab so these changes would get made to all records. Much like what happens in other areas of the program. It is not unusual to learn of additional or corrected information for photo captions, dates, and descriptions after the initial linking. These generally apply to every record the photo is attached to. Not having the global option means having to visit every individual record. A tedious process when you have photos with large groups and an extensive photo inventory. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 5.01.2007 11:11:AM Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template
Whatever terminology you prefer, template or master source, has anyone complied or seen compiled a list of common master source formats for such common sources as censuses, vital records, newspapers, draft registrations, SSDIs, city directories, etc? I thought such a reference would be handy but didn't want to reinvent the wheel if someone had already put something together or have seen something published. For instance: If I just picked up a U.S. draft registration card it would be useful to check this reference of common sources to find examples of how the Master Source for this document should be cited and examples of how Source Details should be cited. Any such thing exist? Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glove Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template This sounds like you have created a master source and you are just asking how to use it. If so all you need do is when you enter an event, in this case a census entry, you need to select the source icon that shows on the event screen. This brings up an assigned sources screen and from there you choose the 'Cite a Master Source' button, find your 'census template', fill in the details and you are done. Graham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Winfrey Sent: 04 January 2007 15:11 To: LegacyTest; Legacy Users Group Subject: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template I am trying to create a template for sources for census events and can't figure out how to do it. I created a template called Census Template and added all the data that generally does not change much like publication, type and repository. Now I can't figure out how to use it to create new sources. Can this be done? Thanks, Jim Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template
Thanks for pointing out the examples Nancy. They were just what I had in mind. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Bender Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Gary, Geoff has put together several and they are on the legacy site: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsSourceSamples.asp I have used a number of them and find them quite useful. Nancy Original Message Follows From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:44:19 -0600 Whatever terminology you prefer, template or master source, has anyone complied or seen compiled a list of common master source formats for such common sources as censuses, vital records, newspapers, draft registrations, SSDIs, city directories, etc? I thought such a reference would be handy but didn't want to reinvent the wheel if someone had already put something together or have seen something published. For instance: If I just picked up a U.S. draft registration card it would be useful to check this reference of common sources to find examples of how the Master Source for this document should be cited and examples of how Source Details should be cited. Any such thing exist? Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glove Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template This sounds like you have created a master source and you are just asking how to use it. If so all you need do is when you enter an event, in this case a census entry, you need to select the source icon that shows on the event screen. This brings up an assigned sources screen and from there you choose the 'Cite a Master Source' button, find your 'census template', fill in the details and you are done. Graham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Winfrey Sent: 04 January 2007 15:11 To: LegacyTest; Legacy Users Group Subject: [SPAM][LegacyUG] Source Template I am trying to create a template for sources for census events and can't figure out how to do it. I created a template called Census Template and added all the data that generally does not change much like publication, type and repository. Now I can't figure out how to use it to create new sources. Can this be done? Thanks, Jim Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Communicate instantly! Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable
RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records--and Source Detail
And while on the subject of Picture Center issues--- Am I missing something or is it not possible to assign photos to Source Detail from within the Picture Center? I looked for an hour trying to figure out a way to attach photos to Source Details using some method besides going to every individual record. Couldn't find a way. Consequently, I spent the next 4 hours attaching several dozen photos, PLUS restroking every Caption, Date, Description, and FileID for every photo to every record. This is nuts. Certainly there has be to a way other than this tediously slow and error prone method. Please help, tell me there is. I have hundreds of more images to attach to hundreds of Source Details. Thanks Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David S Brookes Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records I agree entirely Best wishes David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara Sent: 06 January 2007 12:51 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records David, et al I already have a suggestion to this effect submitted. EVERYONE should submit a suggestion to this effect. It has universal application to all Legacy users. A lone voice often goes unheard, the roar of a crowd seldom goes unnoticed. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David S Brookes Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:15 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records Hi Gary, Jan, Cathy I have also noticed this and agree entirely with the mails. I did sometime ago make a suggestion to make this change to the software so that there is a global option. If please send an e-mail to 'suggest a new feature', this would then back-up my original suggestion, and perhaps within the fullness of time, we might get this (as far as I'm concerned) much needed change. It would make my use of the software much easier. Best wishes to all David Polesworth N.Warks. England -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Roberts Sent: 06 January 2007 00:12 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records I agree - I have often added info to a photo AFTER I have attached it to someone, and it is a pain having to find everyone with the same photo attached so I can individually add the same information. Cheers, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [Jan Roberts] -snip - I would prefer seeing a global change option made available when using the Picture List tab so these changes would get made to all records. Much like what happens in other areas of the program. It is not unusual to learn of additional or corrected information for photo captions, dates, and descriptions after the initial linking. These generally apply to every record the photo is attached to. Not having the global option means having to visit every individual record. A tedious process when you have photos with large groups and an extensive photo inventory. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 5.01.2007 11:11:AM Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard
[LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records
It has been my experience when using the Picture Center that updates made to existing data do not get posted to the individual records. Have others experienced the same? If so, is there an explanation why these changes do not appear in the individual records? Thanks Gary Near St Louis MO USA Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still
Thank you Cathy. You are absolutely right. I should have worded my reply more carefully. Depending on how you number your FileIDs may determine how useful this feature is. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still You can use Legacy to find next sequential File ID when you are prefacing the number with a code. Click the binoculars at the end of the File ID field. Highlight the code + greatest number in the list Click Select +1 Cathy At 12:34 PM 5/01/2007, you wrote: Jean True, the Legacy feature that automatically assigns the next sequential FileID can not be used when prefacing the FileID with a letter. snip Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records
Hi Cathy Yes, essentially that's what I meant. Any changes/additions to information using the Picture List tab of the Photo Center made after the initial entry and linking of photos don't get made to the individual records. This means any change/addition must be made to each individual record. I would prefer seeing a global change option made available when using the Picture List tab so these changes would get made to all records. Much like what happens in other areas of the program. It is not unusual to learn of additional or corrected information for photo captions, dates, and descriptions after the initial linking. These generally apply to every record the photo is attached to. Not having the global option means having to visit every individual record. A tedious process when you have photos with large groups and an extensive photo inventory. A global change option would make the process exponentially more efficient in my opinion. I went to tblBR. Give me more please. Thanks Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center Updates to Individual Records Hi Gary, I'm not quite sure what sort of update you mean. You could be saying that using the Picture Centre isn't attaching photos to the individuals. However, I think you mean that if you add descriptions etc to photos in the Picture Centre they aren't added where that picture had already been attached. That's the way it has always been since the introduction of the Picture Centre. I think it's to do with the way the picture path and description etc are stored in the database. Instead of everything referring back to one picture, the picture path, caption, description and date, order, whether preferred etc are linked to the individual. So if everything isn't filled in at the time you attach the picture, you have to go to that individual to edit it. Hope that makes sense - I'm still on my first cuppa for the day. If you know how to open your database in Access see tblBR Cathy At 10:19 PM 5/01/2007, you wrote: It has been my experience when using the Picture Center that updates made to existing data do not get posted to the individual records. Have others experienced the same? If so, is there an explanation why these changes do not appear in the individual records? Thanks Gary Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs
Hi Jim Hopefully with the resurgence of interest in this topic by several listers we will see some movement by the Legacy design team in an upcoming upgrade. Clooz was too fraught with glitches and promises of tomorrow for me to spend much time with. There is also a voice of caution whispering be wary of tiny publishers developing programs you depend on. I do applaud the basis of the Clooz filing methodology. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan James Bruckman Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs Gary, I have submitted those suggestions to new features. I have also made the suggestion to Geoff R at the 2006 Cruise, and at the Chicago National Genealogy Meeting. So far I have not seen nor heard anything. I keep hoping, since I have my paper copies of documents filed based on the Clooz style, although I do not use Clooz anymore; simply use the Legacy File ID in the same manner. Jim Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still
Jean's points are dead on. Excerpts below. Only one suggestion, assign records to categories before assigning File Numbers. Thus, census records would be C0001, newspaper articles would be N0001, photographs would be P0001, and so on. Just as would be done in a library system. I can provide more on categories if requested. A record filing system is a record filing system. It is a system for filing and retrieving records. Don't make it be something it's not, it's not for people identification and association. That's best handled by programs like Legacy. Please join me in lobbying Legacy to add a report for File Numbers sorted alphabetically which would list LName, FName/MI, FileNumber, Date, Caption, and Description. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jean van horn Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more ...I use the file it as I got it system which files sources once but is referenced by all that use it. When I find a census record I print it out and file it with the next number available sequencially (starting with 0001) in my binders and record that number in the FILE ID on the source detail screen in Legacy. Then when I'm asked a question about a source it takes me seconds to find it by going to that person in my database and checking the source for the ID number. Each person in the census gets this same source with the same FILE ID #, BUT IT IS FILED ONCE. I am also a firm believer in keeping one database because I find that we are all related. Jean Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] RE: One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still
Sherry is absolutely correct, there is a FileID Report in Legacy Deluxe. It only provides one format option--sorted by FileID number sequence. For File IDs to be of complete use to those who file records according to library standards, a sort should also be available in alphabetical sequence (last name, first name). The report should then list Last name, First name, FileID, Date, Caption, and Description. Please use the Suggest a New Feature feature to give the Legacy design team your thoughts. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still There is a FileID Report in Legacy Deluxe under the Books/Other section. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Connie Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: One tested method of organizing files ...a bit more still Gary, Well said!!! I have been using this system for quite some time (and wrote about it in the Aug 2006 Legacy Newsletter (http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/08/index.html) And yes, I do join you in your wish for a File ID# report. Connie Spindel Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about File Id and sourcing.
I teach the use of categorizing before assigning File IDs. Twelve categories work for me. Less I feel is too disorganized. More becomes too unwieldy. This has worked for 25 years. I've been stumped a few times--should it go here or there. It happens. It becomes a judgment call. And then there's the other category. :) Here's the list I follow: B - Buildings/Landmarks/Monuments C - Census Records D - Documents G - Directories H - Heirlooms K - Personal Knowledge L - Correspondence N - Newspaper O - Other P - Photograph R - Recordings X - Books/Periodicals Each category has a short description to aid in determining the kinds of records/items to be assigned. Items are filed as they are discovered. The first photograph I picked up was assigned P0001, the first document was assigned D0001, and so on. Each category receives its own designated/labeled filing area. Two 4-drawer filing cabinets and a 5-shelf book rack contain most. Some, such as Heirlooms, are handled differently. The File contains a photo of the heirloom and where it is physically located. I would place the items referred to in the email below in the D - Documents category. They could also fit into a category titled V - Vital. I prefer Document because I define Document in a broader sense. Joe Blow would become D0001, Amelia Carter D0002, Amelia Blow D0003, Amelia and Joe Blow D0004. The File ID assigned each item is entered in the appropriate Legacy File ID location for each person mentioned in the record. This is where a tool such as the Legacy Picture Center is most handy. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Eccles Family Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 8:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about File Id and sourcing. I can see the wisdom of using File Id's for each piece of documentation. When sourcing each piece of documentation is it better to source each piece separately such as NSW Birth Certificate of Joe Blow File Id B001 NSW Birth Certificate of Amelia Carter File Id B002 NSW Death Certificate of Amelia Blow File Id D001 or general NSW Birth Certificate then details Birth Certificate of Joe Blow file Id B001 The second method gives you much less entries in the Master Source's but is the first better for reports etc. Regards Anne NSW, Australia Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] One tested method of organizing files
Back on the topic of organizing files-- I heartily agree with those who view making multiple copies of material wasteful, time-consuming, space-consuming, and prone to errors. For what it's worth I am defining material here as any hard copy item be it photograph, letter, newspaper, recorded tape, map, form, etc. Legacy provides an excellent filing tool, the File ID. If used properly it can be as useful as the Dewey Decimal or Library of Congress filing system at any public library. The only shortcoming with the Legacy File ID process is its failure to provide a File ID report sorted alphabetically by name. The only File ID report at this time is sorted sequentially by File ID number. This has been addressed with the Legacy design staff and an alphabetical name sort will hopefully appear soon in future updates. To quickly summarize my 30+ years of genealogy and professional file system management--categorize your filing material, assign a File ID number to each material item, note all who the material pertains to, and record the File ID(s) in their genealogical record. No multiple copies, no complex numbering system. A simple cataloging system from which material can easily be filed and retrieved. Gary Near St Louis MO USA *** Give the gift of Legacy for the holidays! Order online at http://legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Legacy.asp or call 1-800-753-3453. *** Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Alpha Sort Showing File IDs
Has anyone discovered a method to provide an alphabetical listing of all individuals with a File ID number assigned? Under [All Reports] [File ID] there is an option to print a File ID report which lists Names, but no option to print a Names report which lists File IDs. This report would be useful when looking for or cross referencing photographs with File IDs. The report would show all individuals with photographs (sorted alphabetically and displaying each File ID). Perhaps a search method has been discovered under another search option providing this search, sort and display feature. Thanks Gary Near St Louis MO USA *** Give the gift of Legacy for the holidays! Order online at http://legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Legacy.asp or call 1-800-753-3453. *** Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] YIKES!! No Digest!!--Formerly: Recording Unknown Names of Children
Thank you to Sharon, Wendy, Cathy, and Leo for responding to my request for unknown name recording ideas. Having just re-subscribed to this list after some months' absence, I just learned there is no digest option. I discovered this when no reference to digest in the application instructions could be found. After a quick keyword search of the archives, question answered. Apparently many, many others were also surprised to learn no digest mode is available. My infrequency in posting just doesn't justify wading through so many individual emails; I'm unsubscribing and will revert back to scanning the archives page. Gary Near St Louis MO USA *** Give the gift of Legacy for the holidays! Order online at http://legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Legacy.asp or call 1-800-753-3453. *** Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Recording Unknown Names of Children
I welcome recommendations on listing children when given names are not known. For instance, when it is known 8 children were born of a marriage, but given names are only known for two. How does one record the other 6? Thanks Gary Near St Louis MO *** Give the gift of Legacy for the holidays! Order online at http://legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Legacy.asp or call 1-800-753-3453. *** Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
