Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting without deleting :)

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

First, don't delete people, unlink them. 
Rich in LA CA





From: Pat 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 6:25:04 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting without deleting :)


Hi, I'm new to this list.  I merged records several months ago.  I now find 
that I am listed 3 times as well as my husband.  I deleted one of the listings 
of my husbandand now he is gone out of my pedigree!  Help how do I get him 
back!!  I added him again by typing in his info, but now how do I link him to 
his parents and the rest of his ancestors?
 
When I print out a family group sheet, either he or I were showing up 3 times.  
I just wanted to get rid of 2 of the listings.  How do I delete 2 of my 
listings without losing me like I did my husband?  :(
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Pat in SoCal
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting without deleting :)

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

From: Pat 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 6:25:04 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting without deleting :)


Hi, I'm new to this list.  I merged records several months ago.  I now find 
that I am listed 3 times as well as my husband.  I deleted one of the listings 
of my husbandand now he is gone out of my pedigree!  Help how do I get him 
back!!  I added him again by typing in his info, but now how do I link him to 
his parents and the rest of his ancestors?
 
When I print out a family group sheet, either he or I were showing up 3 times.  
I just wanted to get rid of 2 of the listings.  How do I delete 2 of my 
listings without losing me like I did my husband?  :(
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Pat in SoCal
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Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Sorry. thought I sent privately.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Mary Young 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 8:58:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates

How is this thread pertinent to the Legacy Users' Group?
Mary Young


2009/11/4 William H. Boswell :
> That's the problem I've had with Ancestry.com searches.  They'd turn up not
> only old information I posted to Rootsweb ten years ago, but my same people
> connected erroneously to their families when I knew they were not.
>
> I know many people have good intentions posting their information to
> internet sites, but there are others who don't.  I've had people ask me to
> correct my data when I had it publicly posted on Rootsweb's FreePages and I
> said I would if they could validate their data with sources.  They would not
> so I didn't change it because I had accurate sources and/or I knew the
> people they were connecting to.  Others I had given my information with
> sources to so I could prove their data was wrong and they didn't change it
> even though I knew for a fact they were not related to my direct line.
>
> Now I only work with my distant cousins who had contacted me through my
> former FreePages website because I had researched their distant lines when
> nobody else would.  It's odd that for all these years there was no
> information available on these people until I posted it all for free.  Now
> I'm finding it everywhere--information that did not come from the internet
> but from diaries, bibles,  and unpublished records that I found in private
> collections that aren't available anywhere else.  So how did these other
> people get this information?
>
> By the way, since Ancestry.com took over Rootsweb a few years ago they also
> purchased all of Rootsweb's old trees even ones that were supposed to have
> been deleted.  I found that out about a year ago when I did a search and
> found an old tree that I specifically had Rootsweb delete and they did, but
> Ancestry.com must have gotten from old backups and restored.  I would only
> remember this because I had mistakenly entered a comment about an ancestor
> being a drunk (which he was) and knew I had it deleted because his daughter
> was still alive and I never intended for that information to go public.
>
> So, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in what stays free at Rootsweb.
> Rootsweb's been around a lot longer than Ancestry.com and it's a shame they
> bought it out.  Ancestry.com has a profit motive while Rootsweb never did.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
> Behalf Of Mary Horner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:03 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Pirates
>
>
> Jenny said 'I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on
> line. '
>
> The problem is Jenny; I was trying to find the connection between Canada and
> Ireland. There is one person who is very active on the message boards when I
> do searches for my direct line surname. I have discovered that he pirates
> others' information and plugs it into his imaginary tree. I worry that he is
> going to have the data so compromised that if I ever actually get over there
> to search, the truth will have been lost in the fiction. I see red ever time
> I find his name on a message board. I know I can't trust his info but what
> about all the poor people who don't know better?
> Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Bill,
In my case someone 'pirated' my data (which I had a surety level of 1) put it 
on RootsWeb (level 4) with me as Source. He then added stuff I never had, to me 
as the source.  By the time I realized the situation, the culprit had died, and 
Rootsweb said they could not remove someome's data, except through the person 
or his representatives permission. I gave up, changed servers (not related to 
this), but people still find me?! 20 years later. He used the wrong information 
to get in the Mayflower group. I don't care anymore about messes he made in my 
name.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: William H. Boswell 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 5:27:20 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

I think you misunderstood my stance on this.  I'm not talking about vital
record data and the like.  I'm talking about specific information that no
one else had access to.  For instance, I have hundreds of hours of audio
interviews where specific information was transcribed and passages used in
my notes.  Some of this information has shown up word-for-word in other
people's trees.  If I don't own that information, then who does since it is
not publicly available and I still have the original recordings and there
are no public copies.

Since I had put some of that information online that is my mistake.  Most of
this information was online for many years because at the time the
intentions of most people were good, but lately there seems to be more
pirates than good intentions so I took it down.

I wouldn't mind so much that the information is used, but the thiefs could
at least cite where they got it from instead of taking ownership of my own
data.  Things like dates and places could have come from anywhere so how can
I know where that came from.  Specific information word-for-word I can tell
if it came from my data.  The only thing I ask is that they show some
respect for those of us who spent the time and money to research it.
Obviously they didn't.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy


I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim
the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many
photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include "Photo
Courtesy of ..."

But just one additional point for William: your "data" does not belong to
you and you cannot assert any claim or copyrights over most of the raw data.
Images, recordings, stories, look & feel, and other things can be
copyrighted. But data like "born in 1850, married in 1870, and died in 1920"
cannot belong to anyone. For years there have been long and furious
discussions on various forums that addressed this issue. How and why
Ancestry.com claims copyright protections on the data on their servers is a
matter left for the attorneys and courts to sort out.

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

William H. Boswell wrote
>I've had the same problem with pirating of my data which is why I no
>longer upload my information especially on Ancestry.com.

I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on line.
I don't guarantee that all my data is 100% accurate so if they think it
is that's their problem.  If they want to deprive themselves of all the
fun of doing their own research, that's their problem.  On the other
hand, if a previously unknown/unfound relative of mine is able to make
contact with me because of my online tree, so much the better.

Of course, it's always much *nicer* if someone asks if they might use
your data and I always try and ask permission of anyone whose online
data I might want to use.  It's only polite.
--
Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I have always assumed most of these folk were required in business, to run the 
receipt, and forget it is running in the background. It seems to come up about 
2-3 times a year, and is self monitored. Some newbies may see the message to 
someone else, and turn theirs off in advance. And when the sender recieves 
hundreds of requests to turn it off, it normally works. 
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: William H. Boswell 
To: Legacy Family Tree List 
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 8:56:12 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message

I've noticed recently that a few users are using the option requesting a
Read Receipt for their messages.  While not a big problem, but unnecessary
for a list such as this.  Usually this is used solely for the purpose of
business emails and should be turned off.

I'm surprised nobody else has noticed or said anything unless it's because
I'm using a very old version of Microsoft Outlook.




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Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

What I do to avoid the confusion, is, when the location needs an explanation, 
I  quote the verbiage in the Source details,  and then use the location without 
any modifiers in the Location list. Example: a relative was shot in front of 
423 25th Street, Chicago (which was near to his apartment 427).  I include the 
whole news article (photocopy) in the photos.  So anyone who receives the whole 
package can decide to edit it to taste.
Rich in LA CA




From: "clark1...@aol.com" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:26:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

I have recently changed most of my "of" locations by creating an event called 
"residence" in the Events/Facts section.  For example, for a marriage where 
someone is listed as Of a location:  the marriage entry will give the location 
where the marriage took place, while the Residence event/fact states where the 
bride or groom was "of".

This is especially helpful in recording German records which nearly always give 
the community where the parents of the bride and groom reside which may not 
necessarily be the one where they were born/baptized. 

Jennifer
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

The main point is being missed of the Geo tool. If you put in the 'current' 
place name, get the actual long/lat and save those numbers. Then you can change 
the spelling (to Lutheren) or previous names (Massachusetts Bay Colony). I 
copy/duplicate the L/L into the notes. I don't open Geo again (for the same 
place). You can then use as many fields as you prefer.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 8:49:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

Jim,

Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the 
cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then 
right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation 
function, but then that American function does not work for most non American 
countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like 
loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a 
temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the 
Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good  for the no 
longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD 
method is better.

Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a 
report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, 
Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, 
Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it

Ron Ferguson
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Jim Walton wrote:
> The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If
> you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
> cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county.
> A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter
> the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This
> way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete
> address information is available.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
>  wrote:
>> Randy Clark wrote
>>> 
>>> OK, testing your method, I have a location:
>>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
>>> Pennsylvania
>>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
>>> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
>>> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?
>> 
>> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
>> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
>> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
>> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and
>> again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
>> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply
>> a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
>> Jenny M Benson
>> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Source Numbers

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I am sorry for your circumstances. Hindsight is golden. Because of my haste to 
get stuff done, I created the same 'waste of quality paper', which lead to  my 
running to the store for replacement stuff. I always print to regular paper 
first now.

Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: WALTER D. CONNER 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:18:32 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Source Numbers

I think I saw something about this in a post a few days ago but didn't save it 
as I didn't know I had the problem then. I just printed a bunch of reports on 
special paper, bound, etc, to find that the Source Reference numbers did not 
all print, some did, even though they all appear properly in the individuals 
info.

Any prospects for a fix on this?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer Crash - Lost Legacy Program:

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I agree with the others. Find a vendor who will attempt to abstract your 
records from the drive. With my crash my drive had 15000 names, and we 
recovered 8500 of them, I had printouts that covered another 1000, and finally, 
on my photocopies I had listed the RINs as I keyed from them originally, and 
could rekey to recapture the rest.
The $200 to recapture the data was well worth the hundreds of extra hours 
rekeying, and stressful months beng avoided. It is probably more expensive now. 
That was in 1987.
You might contact a computer chain store in your area. Maybe do two or three if 
available.
Once you get the NEW computer ready for downloading, you should contact Legacy 
Sales.Your crash did not affect their customer list, and even if you get 100% 
back, it might be a good time to switch to L7. (No pressure). We will help you 
through the parts we can.
Good luck. Rich in LA CA

- Original Message 
From: Kathy Shiell-Stokes 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer Crash - Lost Legacy Program:

Deborah:
First of all, calm yourself down and reassure yourself that you have not lost 
all your data.Search your hard drive for any files with the.fdb extenson. Short 
of a complete hard drive collapse( which means that often  if you can spend 
some money, tech's can still most likely revive it long enough to retrieve your 
information..this is a been there done that experience btw...). HANG ON to THAT 
hard drive and DON'T reformat it until AFTER the tech's have had a run at 
it...Failing a dead hard drive i am betting that the information is still there 
even if windows died. The fact that legacy won't boot does not necessarily mean 
that your data is trashed. Even uninstalling the program does not remove your 
data
It is still possible to download version six and I am betting that if you 
contacted the sales department, staff would likely be able to give you your 
version six customer number that will unlock the version6 deluxe capabilities 
of the program.If you were going to update to Version 7, you would need to 
download that version and then...if desired pay to get a version 7 unlock 
code.At 11:40 PM 10/26/2009, you wrote:
> My computer crashed Friday and and I lost all my files




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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Basic Sources to the SourceWriter

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I understand the fact that I did not set up Basic to move easily into 
Conversion in the past. I also know it will not pull information from nowhere. 
I am a splitter, and so I have 2000+ sources for my 2+ names. I am still 
adding details, about 150 a week, with the Basic stuff, and will convert in a 
slow time. Too much new stuff to worry about cleanup. And I can also hope.
Rich in LA CA

- Original Message 
From: Richard Van Wasshnova 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:41:35 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Basic Sources to the SourceWriter

Rich,

Assuming you entered all the data that needs to go into the Source
Writer template into the basic source citation, (I definitely did
not), and you entered it in the freeform box (Detail Information)
consistently in the same order and preceeded each fact with the same
title as used by the Source Writer, then just maybe Legacy will
produce a source conversion tool that will work for you and fill in
the template for you. I know I will never be able to use a Legacy
Source Conversion Tool to do it all for me.

-- 
Richard Van Wasshnova
http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:41 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 wrote:
> As an oldtimer, I am still waiting for the conversion system.  I have 2000+ 
> sources, and will wait for the tool. There have been some tweaks to the 
> program since that article, but I do not think there has been a major fix up 
> (or it would be in the archives), for the Source stuff.
> Rich in LA CA
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I just open four windows and shrink them down to fill 1/4 of the screen each. I 
will look at the Acer page next.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Alastair Lack 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:46:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

You can actually divide a large screen into two smaller ones using the
free Acer Gridvista

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Acer-Gridvista.shtml

This allows you to run two applications 'maximised' without juggling
the overlaps. But you do need to have a large screen to start with

Alastair



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

As I said in my previous sending, the fourth screen is the 'photo directory', 
which I have subdivded as such:
E:photos/
pictures/
photos1 through photos9-locations-censusUS-censusSwedish-documents-graves
under each category I have further 'split' by location or year.
In some cases I have over 50 in a category.
This way I can copy a 'photo' from a print screen, save with paint, then add 
that to the new event screen, changing windows back and forth. It took me a 
while to formalize the process and simplify it. I no longer use my written 
instructions, but reccomend creating something to assist your process until 
learned.
Rich in LA CA

 


- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:57:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

Sherry wrote
> I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
> Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at 
> an on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website?

Yes.  It's possible to do that with pretty much any program - you just reduce 
the size of the 2 (or more! - I know someone who habitually works with about 4 
windows open at the same time!)  windows and position them as you want.

> I wonder, too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a 
> paragraph or picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Certainly if the website allows copying of text you can paste it into a field 
in Legacy, but you can't do that with pictures.  With pictures you have to save 
them to your hard drive or some other local storage device from where Legacy 
can access them.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting Basic Sources to the SourceWriter

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

As an oldtimer, I am still waiting for the conversion system.  I have 2000+ 
sources, and will wait for the tool. There have been some tweaks to the program 
since that article, but I do not think there has been a major fix up (or it 
would be in the archives), for the Source stuff. 
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Charles Apple 
To: Legacy User Group 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:56:33 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Converting Basic Sources to the SourceWriter

I have switched from TMG 7.0 to Legacy 7.0 Deluxe. Since I had to do an
import via GEDCOM I am in the process of cleaning up 7,000 plus records. All
of the Source's imported to the Basic Source System. Since the Source
Conversion Tool has not been released yet, has anyone figured out the
easiest way to convert sources in the Basic Source System to the
SourceWriter?

I read Geoff Rasmussen's article, dated 18 June 2008, in the archives
referencing his method of manually converting Basic Source's to the
SourceWriter. Since the article is more than a year old, I was just
wondering if anyone has come up with an easier way. I apologize for bringing
this up, I am sure it has been thorougly discussed before. That's one of the
problems with being a Newbie.

Thank you for your assistance,

Charles




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Re: [LegacyUG] List Mandates

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

A heartfelt apology and graciously changing mail patterns has been accepted by 
most, and punishing yourself further may be overkill. Welcome back.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Tom Watkins 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:51:37 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] List Mandates

Brian,

"I should think the unpardonable Sin for this particular list would be posting 
with a 9 paragraph sig line."

You are most likely correct. I was not aware that the length of the signature 
line was a matter of such importance. However, ignorance on my part is no 
excuse. As a form of penance, I will attempt to refrain from including it in 
the future. I will also ban myself from posting to this list for one month. 
Please advise if this punishment is sufficient or if any additional 
chastisement will be required ?. 



[><]

Tom Watkins
Eau Gallie, Florida




      



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Yes. I frequently have Legacy visible on 1/2 screen, the Swedish online pages 
on the other, and the program Paint, and the 'photos subdirectory' hiding on 
the bottom, to check which pages I already have, then copy new pages using the 
Swedish copy numbering system. 
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Sherry 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at an 
on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I wonder, 
too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a paragraph or 
picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Sherry

- Original Message -
From: "Dawn Crowley" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I like being able to choose the size & font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only    1/2 of the screen & still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

Dawn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

When I had a program that did that, I would sort all births for a parish 
register search, to simplify 'scrolling'  through the document. Since it added 
in the 'abt' and 'year only', I could find them all in the once pass through. 
When I moved to L5, I made ToDo forms which printed on the 'same page',  which 
was a 'fix'. 
Rich in LA CA 


- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:06:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by birthdate?

michele


- Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


> Chick:
> 
> I'm with you on sorting names by dob; it's one of the two relatively small
> FTM features that I miss.  For now I send a GEDCOM from Legacy to an old
> copy of FTM and sort there, but it would certainly be handy to be able to do
> it within Legacy.  Seems it would be easy enough to add.  I don't understand
> the lack of a dob sort for names.
> 
> Kirsten




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Re: [LegacyUG] Phone numbers and / or addresses missing

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In general, looking for empty fields use 'Search' 'the field' 'starts with'  ' 
', meaning in the first character in the field is a 'space'. You can also use 
'wqual'.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Robert Carneal USA 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:39:36 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Phone numbers and / or addresses missing

Some advice please.  I know how to search for people in my family file that are 
"alive" so to speak.  Can anyone tell me how to do this:
1. Find those who are "alive"
To do this, I set
Look for whom = Individual
Where to look = Living
How to look = Equal to
What to look for = YES

2. Next, find those who are missing an address or phone number or both?  When I 
try, it says "no records were found that match the search criteria."  This is 
the part I am struggling with- can it be done?

Thank you.

Robert



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In response to the question 'what I don't like about Legacy', I used to have a 
long list, but most have been fixed (submitted by me and others), some are 
still pending, and I tried for a while to come up with a new list and couldn't. 
My favorite part is the flexibility of Events.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
> But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called "The least 
> liked features of Legacy". I've come close to that in the past and a few 
> jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that if I didn't like it 
> here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have come and gone but even 
> at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about posting a laundry list of those 
> items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up one at a time and add my 
> sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test the waters.?

Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, just a few things 
I'd like to see which have been aired here before - and often submitted by me 
or others as enhancement suggestions.  There are probably quite a few features 
I never use, but just because I personally have no need of them doesn't mean I 
am not very happy for them to be there for others.  I *do* like the way the LDS 
features can all be tucked away out of site so they don't clutter the screen up 
for those who don't use them, but the generosity of the LDS towards *all* 
genealogists is incredible and I begrudge them nothing.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

First point. Spell check is a Microsoft thing. I have had problems with it too. 
Second, I have forgotten how I did it, but I did go in and remove a few 
spelling errors added by mistake, so it can be done. I will try to remember the 
actual way I did it. maybe someone out there KNOWS how.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: RUNION ROBERT 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:49:51 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker

One more time!!! I have tried to post this message three times over the past 
week, so if a duplicate materializes, I apologize in advance.  I'm beginning to 
wonder if I've been blacklisted!

Anyway - I am trying to use the spell checker to correct a lot of errors in my 
notes and ran across a couple of issues that I do not seem to be able to figure 
out:

(1) Specifically, the use of military designators, such as 1st Infantry, 384th 
TFW, etc. , - the spell checker will accept these if spelled out, such as 
'first' Infantry, 'Three Eighty Fourth' TFW, etc., but will not permit me to 
add the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc., designators to the dictionary so that when 
encountered again, it will allow changes.  Aside from  'ignoring' these errors 
each time I ask the spell checker to start anew (as opposed to 'starting where 
left off'), is there any way to add the  1st, 2nd., etc., to the spell checker 
for future usage?

(2) On a secondary issue with the spell checker, I am unable to correct 
misspelled data in the Global spell checker unless it is a word in the spell 
checker dictionary.  My solution? Write the RIN number on a piece of paper, 
then go to that RIN - visit his/her Notes field, read the whole note and 
manually correct the spelling problems as I go - OR - I copy the whole note, 
paste it to a WORD document, make the corrections, then copy and paste it back 
into Legacy.

A most convoluted process, but it is easier for me than trying to use the spell 
checker when it doesn't permit me to manually change 'da te' to 'date' or to 
type the proper name and change it on the spot. Lots of effort, but I'm now 
about 40% through my 21,000 RIN's, and hope to finish in about 6 weeks.

Bob



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations in England

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

As a person who has locations in all six sets of GEO, I have found that what I 
do is find the location in whatever 'format' the GEO wants, copy and paste the 
Lon and Lat, then change the loation to the way I WANT it. It is only a tool. I 
also use the 'what it was called then' for historical places, some places 
having 



- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations in England

At first I was real OCD about trying to make every location have 4 parts.  I 
got over it.  All of my Germany locations have 3 :) :)

michele

- Original Message - From: "Brian Beddor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations in England


Hi Ron,
Thanks for sharing the difference between a country and a kingdom --
something that I should know.




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Re: [LegacyUG] trying not to panic

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

To isolate Apr 1923, I would make a double search 1. born before 1 May 1923, 
and 2. after 31 Mar 1923
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Mike Fry 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] trying not to panic

Mary Horner wrote:
> My Volume 1 training videos have just arrived and I have completed disc 2. 
> Problem: using the Master Location list I started correcting some of my
> inconsistent entries. I edited and saved. When I got back to the family
> screen I happened to be on my father's where I noticed on his birth/location
> line it had substituted someone else's birth date for the newly edited
> location. The date has been heisted from some other entry. I do not
> recognize it. Just immediately before this edit I had edited something on my
> mother's chart. When I got back to her family screen the program had picked
> my father's location and transferred it to her. Because it is my immediate
> family I was able to recognize the switch and correct it. However, this
> second error really has me spooked. Any suggestions as to why this happened?
> Also as to how I can locate who was born in April 1923?

Have you been clicking on the field labels in the Individual Information 
screen? This is a means of repeating a previously entered piece of information.

For example, if you click on the "in" label to the left of the Birth Place 
field, the last value will be automatically entered into the Location field. 
This applies to *all* the basic fields on the Individual Information screen,

You can also right-click on the label and bring up a list of the last 10 values 
for dates and places and make a selection from there.

-- Best regards,
Mike Fry
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Re: [LegacyUG] trying not to panic

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I am guessing that you may have copied (by accident) some data into the wrong 
place. When you are in the 'Individual Information' Screen, and right click on 
any of the field titles (Born, etc), you will notice that a pop up window comes 
in, with the last ten used. I did this in the past, But I noticed quickly and 
have been more careful since. If this is what might have happened, you can use 
search for modified date, then locate all possible errors.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Mary Horner 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:38:57 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] trying not to panic

My Volume 1 training videos have just arrived and I have completed disc 2. 
Problem: using the Master Location list I started correcting some of my
inconsistent entries. I edited and saved. When I got back to the family
screen I happened to be on my father's where I noticed on his birth/location
line it had substituted someone else's birth date for the newly edited
location. The date has been heisted from some other entry. I do not
recognize it. Just immediately before this edit I had edited something on my
mother's chart. When I got back to her family screen the program had picked
my father's location and transferred it to her. Because it is my immediate
family I was able to recognize the switch and correct it. However, this
second error really has me spooked. Any suggestions as to why this happened?
Also as to how I can locate who was born in April 1923?
Mary





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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing multimedia file

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

You state 'Ordinarily the name of the person & his/her RIN# are listed'. Is 
that because you named them?  I have found that an editting of the file name, 
or moving to a new directory, will confuse the program. This seems to be (your 
namimg) a photo of a map for the place. It might be missing from the Master 
Location List. In any case, go to Master Lists; Master Picture...List. This 
will show all directory trees currently used. Your stuff may be there?
Rich in LA CA





From: Pat Hickin 
To: LEGACY 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:51:22 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing multimedia file


When testing for any missing multimedia files, I get the following message:
 
Picture: Address: Maple Park Cemetery
   __CEM MAP WV MERCER Bluefield Maple Park Cem 20080912.jpg
 
I only have two people buried in that cemetery.  I have checked all the 
entries, burial addresses, etc., and the pictures are all there.
 
How can I determine the person who is supposed to be missing the picture??  
Ordinarily the name of the person & his/her RIN# are listed.
 
I don't know how to explain this very well; I hope you understand what I'm 
trying to say.
 
Thanks!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In my way of thinking, "Personal Collections" implies you attended the actual 
event, not found a document that proves it., But it is your choice how you wish 
to do things. A source (IMHO) should be a  'path'  for someone else to 
follow, for re-creating, in the future. I have recieved documents from 3 
different relatives, in what seems similar to your concepts.  
Rich in LA CA

- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:14:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

Tom,

Am I understanding you correctly, you intend to publish every certificate 
either in a report or on a website? Have you considered how much space that 
would take up on either?

In any event it is a breach of crown copyright to publish any UK government 
certificate, and Her  Majesty will be somewhat less than happy if you do.

Ron Ferguson
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- Original Message - From: Tom Thorpe
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 14 October 2009 16:25
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources


Good Morning All,

A Master Source question.  Because I produce and attatch a digital image of 
every source within Legacy, why would I need to cite any other Master Source 
other than the "Personal Collections" one I have created?

Example: from the NY State Archives, I obtained a copy of my ancestor's death 
certificare.  That image is now attached to my source listing as a multimedia 
image, for anyone to see.  Could I not just group it under a master source 
called "Personal Collections" and be done with it?  Why would I also need to 
list a Master Source as New York State Department of Health, repository New 
York State Archives, etc.,when anyone wanting to verify my work can look right 
at the attached copy of the original?

Thanks.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I am understanding now,  my possible 'wrong field names and icons' confusion. I 
was actually meaning 'Find Previous' and 'Find Next'; instead of Back and 
Forward. On my toolbar (in the middle)  I have placed this clump; 'Previous, 
Search, Next, double blue arrows'. So I was always using the 'previous/next'  
instead. These work the same as the bottom tag arrows, except for the bug 
discussed in previous messages. Since the 'back and forward' scrolls through 
the last 200 main screens, showing exactly the last ones, with 
multiples showing up as often as bounced to, and the 'previous and next' scroll 
through only the searched-tagged people, I was unaware some people may not know 
about these different tools. 
Yes, we were talking apples and oranges. Sorry for my part in the confusion. 
Rich in LA CA

- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question


I am using 7.0.0.109. I, years ago added the icons to the 'top' of the form the 
equivalent left and right arrows. I found out that the 'icon set' doesn't work 
the same (correctly) as the lower one (incorrectly). (Did twice) I used a list 
I have, untagged the first person, chose each of the right arrows. When 
changing in the list, it is lost. The top one remembered the list until 
re-searched'. When changing the tag on the mainscreen, the list is maintained. 
The bottom one 'loses' the person when the tag is changed immediately.. If you 
change the tag on the actual list it is forgotten everywhere. I had never used 
the bottom ones, since I was familiar with the 'top' ones.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I am using 7.0.0.109. I, years ago added the icons to the 'top' of the form the 
equivalent left and right arrows.   I found out that the 'icon set' doesn't 
work the same (correctly) as the lower one (incorrectly).  (Did twice) I used a 
list I have, untagged the first person, chose each of the right arrows. When 
changing in the list, it is lost.  The top one remembered the list until 
re-searched'. When changing the tag on the mainscreen, the list is maintained. 
The bottom one 'loses'  the person when the tag is changed immediately.. If you 
change the tag on the actual list it is forgotten everywhere. I had never used 
the bottom ones, since I was familiar with the 'top' ones.
Rich in LA CA
 
 
 
 
 
Let me see if this makes sense...

I tagged a set of people (everyone in my file marked as living)

I started with the first person

If I didn't do anything to that person I could arrow forward to the next person

If I did something to the person (set them as dead) and then click on the tag 
to untag them...

Then I could not arrow over to the next person.  It isn't changing the persons 
info that does it, it is UNTAGGING them that does it.  If I work with them and 
then untag them (by clicking the tag above their name and to the right) then I 
can't click the arrow at the bottom of the screen to go to the next person.

michele


- Original Message - From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question


I understand what you are saying, but I could not duplicate a problem. I have a 
list I am using at present with 131 people in it. It is set to scroll on RIN. 
The list in order is a man, then wife, then about a dozen folk, then her 
father. I went to her fathers screen and added the burial place to him. After 
saving his changes, choose the arrow, which went back into the next in order, 
the wife. If I am not matching your processes, please be more descriptive about 
what was 'changed', and the sort order the list is using. Choices are RIN, 
first name, last name.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 12:44:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question

Carl Cox wrote:
>> <> on
>> 
>> If I use the arrows at the bottom of screen to go through the list...
>> 
>> As long as I don't change anything on the person it will go to the
>> next person. If I make a change to the person then when I hit the
>> arrow it will say "End of Tag List reached, moving to first Tagged
>> Individual."
>> 
>> This is VERY aggravating. If I am changing things on everyone in
>> the list then every time I hit the arrow to go to the next person I
>> get that screen and then I have to click it off, then hit the arrow
>> again.
>> 
>> Does that make sense?
>> 
>> michele>>
>> 
>> I have noticed the same thing, except that I just put up with the
>> aggravation without checking the cause. That should be easy to fix.
>> I vote to put it on the list of things to be done. (There are
>> several other things with a higher priority, however.)
>> 
>> Carl
>> 
Carl,

If you wish to put it on the list of enhancements then go to the Legacy Home
tab in your program and at the bottom right there is an option to suggest
new features.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I understand what you are saying, but I could not duplicate a problem. I have a 
list I am using at present with 131 people in it. It is set to scroll on RIN. 
The list in order is a man, then wife, then about a dozen folk, then her 
father. I went to her fathers screen and added the burial place to him. After 
saving his changes, choose the arrow, which went back into the next in order, 
the wife. If I am not matching your processes, please be more descriptive about 
what was 'changed', and the sort order the list is using. Choices are RIN, 
first name, last name.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 12:44:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question

Carl Cox wrote:
>> <> on
>>
>> If I use the arrows at the bottom of screen to go through the list...
>>
>> As long as I don't change anything on the person it will go to the
>> next person.  If I make a change to the person then when I hit the
>> arrow it will say "End of Tag List reached, moving to first Tagged
>> Individual."
>>
>> This is VERY aggravating.  If I am changing things on everyone in
>> the list then every time I hit the arrow to go to the next person I
>> get that screen and then I have to click it off, then hit the arrow
>> again.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> michele>>
>>
>> I have noticed the same thing, except that I just put up with the
>> aggravation without checking the cause. That should be easy to fix.
>> I vote to put it on the list of things to be done. (There are
>> several other things with a higher priority, however.)
>>
>> Carl
>>
Carl,

If you wish to put it on the list of enhancements then go to the Legacy Home 
tab in your program and at the bottom right there is an option to suggest 
new features.

Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

This was a case of finalizing a grant. Military land, and all US land was 
awarded in a four part process. First a person would recieve a warrant which 
allowed him to request a surveyor to go out and define/set boundaries for a 
piece of land the size of the grant (or he would pay for it). The 
Surveyor would do as many as he could each day, putting them next to each 
other. (and use rocks, rivers and trees carved in for borders.) He described 
the boundaries using compass directions and lengths of chain, from the above 
rocks etc. His land had already finished most of the process, so you might want 
to find the other documents described above, and package all it into the 
'deed'  file. Send to me privately for more assistance if desired.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 3:03:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

Silas appeared in front of the Magistrate with witnesses who stated under oath 
that they could swear that this Silas Simmons was the one that served in the 
War of 1812.  There was a hold out on the issuance of his bounty land because 
there were TWO Silas Simmons',  He had to come to court and prove who he was 
before they would release the land.

michele

- Original Message - From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?


> Michele Lewis wrote:
>>> My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there
>>> to prove that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of
>>> 1812 and was at the Battle of New Orleans so that he would be
>>> entitled to bounty land (there was another Silas Simmons in the area
>>> so he went to court to prove he was who he said he was).
>>> 
>>> I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event.
>>> Affidavit? (that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that
>>> one just sounds strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know
>>> what I should title the event.  Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all
>>> the events of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I
>>> like Legacy).
>>> 
>>> michele
>>> 
> 
> Michele,
> 
> I don't wish to sound pedantic, but you do not acrtually tell us what the
> document is, nor what it is about. It could be an oath (Affidavit) sworn by
> him, in which case it was clearly contested, it could be a defendants
> summons to court, a plaintiff's application to the court, the judgement of
> the court and so forth. One should simply call the document what it is!
> 
> The suggestion in your other post re. type of source seems reasonable, for
> what you have described and the Event could be the name of the court. I have
> some Events such as Coroner's Court, Westmorland Quarter Sessions etc.,
> Description: the type of case - this is usually on the Court Documents, Date
> and Place are obvious.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] no name people

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

For temporary purposes, make his wife Mrs. Mayo.  add the siblings in. Then you 
can unlink her from the group, then delete her.  This will hold them together 
(in a band-aid style).
Rich in LA CA





From: Jane Sarles 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 11:00:28 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] no name people

I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy program, 
so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a family.  I 
have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, but, since I don't know 
either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how to input it.  
Advice?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

What is the size of the file? Can you 'print' the file in any format?  Have you 
tried using Import Wizard to 'confuse' your computer. The worst that could 
happen is it doesn't work, either.  I have never seen the extension mht 
added with any genealogical file (though I am not an expert in all the programs 
out there). Since your e-mail is in Australia(?) it could be from a 'home 
grown' program. Ask the person if the Gedcom is Gedcom 5.5 . 
We will trie to muddle through this with you. Don't send until someone offers 
to recieve it. I am swamped for a few weeks, but if on one else steps forward, 
will leave the option open.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Margaret Bauer 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 6:25:12 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem

Hi Listers

I have a problem.
I have been sent a gedcom file but it has an extension "mht" and will not open 
into my Legacy programme.
I have made another file and inserted a "ged" at the end instead but still 
nothing.
I have been assured it is a gedcom file and have been in behind the scenes and 
it certainly looks as if it is as it starts with the "O head" and all that, but 
I do not have a clue therefore why I cannot get it to open.
Has anyone any suggestions or has come upon this before?
Thankyou
Margaret

Margaret Bauer
Qld, Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I disagree. I currently print Individual Reports, and it prints the events with 
photos I request. Requests 2-3 have been discussed elsewhere. we just recieved 
notice that 4 has been submitted, and probably crossed paths with this.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:06:06 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

There are several reports in which you cannot choose to have even event
pictures print, such as the individual report.

There are many reports in which only events can have pictures print, but NOT
birth, baptism, death, burial, or marriage.  BTW, those are events too, but
not classified as such for picture purpose.

Many reports do not allow a location report to be included.

All reports should have the option to include a location report that
includes the location notes and/or pictures.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

Alastair Lack wrote:
>> Thanks to each of you for your help.
>> I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including
>> locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large
>> database.
>> My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the
>> pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't!
>> I think CE is right
>> Regards
>> Alastair
>
Alastair,

Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event,

then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

The trick is to create an Event to put the picture into. Each event will, in 
general, print one picture per event. Then you can sort the events, which will 
also put them in chronology. Ex: for each residence, you can put the photo of 
the building, and sort in date order. The pictures may be too small at times, 
but that is a different situation.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Alastair Lack 
To: Legacy User Group 
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:31:41 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

I should like to include pictures of locations in my reports.

Apropos of the August posts on the topic, the reason I would like to
do this is that it is part of the location description, along with
lat/long etc. I've gone to a degree of trouble to locate many of these
places, and travelled many miles visiting them. Their pics are happily
attached in the location master file.

I don't think that the previous posts discovered how to include them
in ordinary, eg descendant, reports.

So I've also run a Location Report, but I cannot see how to include
pictures in that either.

Am I missing something, or are location pics not actually reportable
anywhere at present?

Warm regards :-)

Alastair Lack



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Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

But my extended families were only in 26 states, and not in all years. I have 
the census source by year, and the other countries fit my pattern, Britian, 
Sweden, Norway, Mexico, Canada, Denmark. CenU1790, CenB1841, CenS1890, 
CenN1865, CenM1845, CenC1851, CenD1834. And CenIa1854 for Iowa.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jim Walton 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 8:56:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that way.

You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with
50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census
would have at least 13 sources plus the counties.  Even narrowing it
down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a
Puerto Rico and Guam.

But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as
a work-around. Thanks again.

Jim


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman  wrote:
> Jim:
>
> That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do.  (And just today
> I wrote that I'm reforming from this!)
>
> Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census and
> leave out the other location details.  Then on the Source Detail screen on
> the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of Person"
> field.  That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jim Walton
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information
>
>
> I record census information as part of residency then I can do a
> chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related.
> I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement
> it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify
> the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for
> the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail.
> That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because
> different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for
> 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New
> Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information.
>
> I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the
> override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get
> some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Transcribing census errors?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Whenever I find any errors, I transcribe exactly whate was written, the put [ ] 
around the correct (IMHO) information. That is the only thing I use them for, 
so whenever I see [ ] I know what they mean.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Mary Horner 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:34:46 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Transcribing census errors?

When the enumerator has made errors, most commonly in spelling the surname,
or when you are getting the info online where the transcriber has made
errors in interpreting the handwriting, do you copy into Legacy what is
actually there or what should have been there - the correct spelling? My
family has a unique name wherein anyone in Canada with the same spelling is
related and the spelling has always been consistent within the family going
back over 200 years, but the errors in census are amazing. I would never
have found the family had they not lived on the same homestead for 5
generations. When I finally found a census where the name was correct, the
enumerator was my great-grandfather!





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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I actually was sending to one person and didn't notice he had sent under 
the LUG until I pressed send. I apologize to anyone bothered by this. 
Rich in LA CA




From: Arnold Sprague 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Richard,
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR ATTACHMENT WAS 9.8MB
LOTTA FOLKS HERE ARE ON DIAL-UP.
Arnold



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Example: If you have a Source of 1900 IL, Cook, Chicago, and ten different 
pages with members of your family on each, then attaching all ten to the 
source, only one photo will be showing, or if attaching to each detail (by 
using events) then all ten photos will print. I put mine in events instead, 
since that gives me room for personal notes. There are many choices, you need 
to decide what you want the reports to com out as. I can send an example if you 
want.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, "William H. Boswell"
 wrote:

>I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
>relinked in Legacy.
>
>You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do it
>because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
>seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.

Images can be assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You
seem to be confusing the two.

In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source or Source
Detail in Picture Center.

>I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.

I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.

Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there).

-- 

Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Because Legacy does not add the photos to each person, but only the location of 
the file of the photo, you can add multiple copies of a picture to anywhere you 
see the icon. I add a family group shot of  40 + people, then add another 
version of the photo, cropping only each to a head shot. Then each person has 2 
photos, the group and the mug. 
You can include the census photo to the Source, and then add it also, to the 
family members on it, and/or the event. It is hard to read but makes it easy to 
view again.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: William H. Boswell 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:48:18 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

So in other words it's not a good idea?

Isn't this something that people would like to have the ability to do, or is
it better to just leave the source images out?

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote
>I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the
>image to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the
>Picture Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if
>the image was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the
>Pictures tab.  For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I
>hope this is making sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too
>many steps for something that should be fairly simple.

You did exactly what you said in your *first* sentence, not what you
looked for in your second!

You attached the picture to the Birth Event *not* to the Source Citation
for that Event.  You will notice that there is no mention of Sources in
the Picture Centre.

If you go to the Source Citation screen for any Event you will be able
to attach the picture there (or a sound, video or document file) and you
can add a Caption, a Description and a File ID.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Christening & Baptism

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I have created an Event: Adult Baptism, which includes anyone who 'chose' to be 
baptised. Half of my family was infant baptised, most of the others adult; some 
who had both done. 
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Pat Jones 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:22:00 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Christening & Baptism

Surely others may have the same problem...  Some of my ancestors 
were of a church that only Christened shortly after the birth of 
a child.  Baptism didn't take place until perhaps years later.  I 
have the dates for both but haven't found a way to add both.  Am 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Christening to Baptism

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Or on the main screen, left click over the word to change, a pop-up shows 
Customize Display, doing the same thing.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:52:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Christening to Baptism

Laura Johnson wrote
> Can someone tell me how to change the CHR for Christening to Baptism? Somehow 
> all of my Baptisms have changed to Christening when I moved my file to my 
> laptop.  I am on vacation and I cannot find the info in the help files.

Options>Customise>Data format.  Halfway down on the right.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Step children in descendent chart--was: Chart question

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

To keep peace in the family, you might create two databases. One using legal 
rules and the other using familial rules. This would include adopted and foster 
children as full blood descedants of the adoptive parents. When (and if) family 
members understand it is no slight of their postition in the family, You can 
remove the inaaccurate but 'beloved' version. 
Hide the legal version from prying eyes if needed.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:40:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Step children in descendent chart--was: Chart question

Jenny,
I understand what you're saying.
However, the spouses of direct line descendents are included even though they 
are not blood relations.  And the child from a previous marriage of that spouse 
is also a 1/2 child of the spouse in the descendent line, right?  I know I will 
get "flamed" about this, but when we all try so hard to include a child into 
our family (especially when the circumstances of their birth or early childhood 
are difficult), it seems cruel to leave them out of our family tree.  The 
example we have is one of the grandchildren on my husband's side.  I wouldn't 
want to print a family tree (descendent) at all if someone who is part of the 
family was going to see that "technically" they are not part of the family.
Hey, I'm not usually labeled "touchy feely" but...  How hard would it be to add 
an option to include 1/2 children?
With that "opening volley" (I'm sure), I'm signing off for the night. ;)
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough 
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd 
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald 
Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams 



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 

Mary Figgins wrote
> There is no problem showing the 1/2 children in Legacy.  What I need is a 
> chart such as descendancy that would show these children that are related by 
> marriage and not blood. 

Your problem is that Legacy (and Legacy Charting) are *genealogy* programs and 
genealogy is based on blood relationships.  You cannot have a "descendancy" 
chart which shows non-blood relatives because they are not descendants!  Legacy 
will show 1/2 children because Legacy shows them  as part of a family unit of 
parents-and-children and they are related by blood to one of the parents.  -- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sherry from WA

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Yes, it worked.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: "daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:04:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sherry from WA

Kirsten,

I found my error. I had checked the box to view my messages in text. I went 
back and found where I had to check to compose my messages in text. Did this 
one work?

Sherry


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Re: [LegacyUG] Reinstalling Legacy 7.0

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In the past, similar stuff has happened. Download the whole program, (as a 
Standard).
 If you wrote or kept the long password to change to Deluxe, it will work. If 
not, call customer support (or e-mail) and they will resend your code number.
Rich in LA CA





From: Diane Szabo 
To: Legacy 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:28:40 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Reinstalling Legacy 7.0


Hello Users,
 
I had major computer problems yesterday and evidently several Legacy files were 
deleted.  I am now being prompted to reinstall Legacy 7.0, but when I go to the 
Legacy site, it looks like I have to purchase this version again to download.  
Or - is there a workaround on this?
 
Please advise, and thanks in advance.
Diane
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Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I would Gedcom the whole 5000 to a new database (as discussed earlier).  No 
need to TYPE all that. Then some of the stuff on Ancestry has sources listed.  
I don't use it much for that anymore (other places) but what I have done, at 
adding them in, tag everyone with a one, and over the next six months locate 
each source (to verify/make copies of the items) then remove the tag. When you  
finish as much as you care about,  then you can decide to add into your main 
DB. 
Happy transferring, Rich in LA CA




From: "daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:22:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out


Tom,
 
Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day 
with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right 
or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) 
everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do 
well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the 
stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. 
And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are 
completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. 
I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for 
my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name 
on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then 
entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better 
way?
 
Sherry

- Original Message -
From: "TomK" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:08:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

Sherry,

You asked:
"When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have 
been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then 
go about trying to verify it? "

I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you 
pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include 
such information if it seems to help obtain clues.  Two things I would suggest 
when you add information to your database is that: 
1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and 
from whom you recorded the information.   There is nothing worse than to look 
at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, 
especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already 
have.
2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and 
use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later 
identify those entries that I'm not sure of.  You can include the Surety Level 
when you print Source Citations in your reports. 

Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to 
verify/validate the information. 

Tom


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM,  wrote:

Hi Everyone,
> 
>My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for 
>about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only 
>purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he 
>wrote:
> 
>out on our ancestral trail - we do not this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be 
>to be multiple output formats.
>
>I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want to 
>use Legacy for are:
> 
>1) To upload my data to FamilySearch
>2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their 
>spouses and children
>3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, 
>including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a 
>brother, sister, daughter, and nephew.
> 
>I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and 
>they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. 
>However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. 
>And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online 
>information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how 
>do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying 
>to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to 
>even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go 
>about this?
> 
>Sherry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I just ran Relationship Calculator using Charlemange on one side and the 
husband of a currently living descendant on the other (to get the married to 
stuff). The program found 5 lines, I chose one, and it created a 6 page report, 
with about 6-8 people per page. Each has a box with details of that person and 
spouse. Have you not gone to the print after finding the results? I can print 
each grouping separately. Easy to count. I must be misunderstanding you.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:44:05 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the
DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY
relationship possible between them.  As then mentioned, other programs have
had this capability for many years.  Does Legacy?, was asked.  Sherry from
Support said that Legacy does not and suggested using Relationship
Calculator instead.  That's when I began posting, because Support has no
answer, and I was hoping LUG would.

The problem with Relationship Calculator first appeared in LUG 5 or 6 years
ago - with no resolution or help from Support.

If it were possible to create a Direct Descent (or Ascent) Chart/Report
between two persons, I could count the generations myself!  But there is NO
such capability!

I presume the problem with the programming is why there is no Direct
Relationship Report or Chart - Legacy can't do such.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart


As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie.
enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual
memory - if your hard drive is big enough?

I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the
blood relationships to be calculated.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: wood...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700
>
> I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor,
> as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color.
>
> It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other
> as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times,
> intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother
is
> shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly,
Relationship
> Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists
> is my 28th GGU.
>
> That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly,
the
> Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I
> said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot
> understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son
who
> is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line
> are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry
> Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two
> functions do not deal with the math.
>
> It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses
the
> program.
>
>
> CE
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
>
> So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents'
lines,
> ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than
you
> expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent.
> Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
> Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found
> between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of
> analyzing where the divergences are?
> Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each
> line is a direct line, everyone on that line sh

Re: [LegacyUG] Handling Divorces in Charting

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

My guess. Does the divorce couple have a child?  Create using that person. If 
there is none, create a fake person called ' Here is a chart to show both sides 
of family'. This should then be deleted before you do more input. 
Rich in LA CA




From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:44:51 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Handling Divorces in Charting


Can anyone advise me how to solve the following problem.  

>>  Most people want to see the ancestors of both of their parents and their 
>>descendants, however I find no chart that will do this.  I like the 
>>hour-glass chart, but it only shows the ancestors of the selected person and 
>>his/her descendants (not the ancestors of his/her spouse).

Mike Barberi

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 





From: John S. Adams 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:02:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Handling Divorces in Charting

If you are referring to Legacy Charting, you can certainly move any 
individual anywhere on the page.  Select the "Drag only one individual" icon 
on the left side of the screen (the little tree with one red square).  Then 
drag the ex to the desired location and drop her there.  You can then drag & 
drop the current wife closer to the husband to balance the display.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

--
From: "Tony Gain" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:58 AM
To: 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Handling Dicorces in Charting

> When I create a chart which includes a Divorce the ex-Partner (in my chart
> the ex-wife) is shown next to her ex-spouse, and the current  wife is to 
> one
> side.
>
>
>
> While this is presumably correct in genealogy terms, I would prefer my 
> chart
> to show the current wife next to her husband.  Is there a way to achieve
> this ?
>
>
>
> Tks
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Book done by compiler, NOT author or editor

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I would put whatever name connected with the document (publisher, government 
name), I can find and put in the field what I picked and why. Changing the 
'category' would not help, because changing author to compiler will not be 
documented, in a list of books, but  naming the author  'Bricks Publishing Co. 
as compiler' will always note the variance. There will always be something that 
refuses to fit organized rules.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Arnold Sprague 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:51:04 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Book done by compiler, NOT author or editor

I need to source a book which is clearly NOT done by an author or an editor, 
per "Evidence Explained" (EE), by Elizabeth Shown Mills. (See 12.8, Author's 
Role: Compiler or Author, page 668.)
Legacy's SourceWriter, however, ONLY allows me to enter an author or editor, if 
I choose to use SourceWriter for a book.
Is there a way for me to override the text (change author/editor to compiler) 
when Legacy shows the source?
I prefer to use EE and SourceWriter; so please let's NOT digress into 
discussions as to perceived shortcomings of either.
Thank you,
Arnold 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Editing a GEDCOM (Was When Do you import versus merging ??)

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I don't edit the Gedcom, actually, but after adding into a new database, I go 
to the Master location list, and set them up my way (short name, long/lat, add 
county names). Then I run a Potential Problems report, to find any possible 
errors, so I can fix or tag them. Ex: I have a death date of Feb 30, 1829. 
After analyzing the surrounding records, some Feb 29 and also some Mar 1, 
decided I will never solve this. Then I add the new DB into the old setting 
both ' higher' RIN and MRIN numbers to segregate the new . Since I have over 
25000 names I would use 3 as a start. Then the merge. That leaves only the 
unmerged people with the higher numbers, so I can see who needs more work and 
possible rechecking old Souces.
Good luck, Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Ila East 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:27:23 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Editing a GEDCOM (Was When Do you import versus merging ??)

What program do you use to edit a GEDCOM file?

Ila East

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> I always gedcom into a new file, fix the locations and sources MY way, then 
> add it into my main DB, then do a merge. The group taught me that when I was 
> a Newbie, and we try to repeat it regularly for the next batch of newbies to 
> hear.
> Rich in LA CA
>  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

No harm, no foul.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Arnold Sprague 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:26:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

Richard et al.,
        I do not believe that any of us ought to be in the business of telling 
other *Legacy users* what to call themselves. Especially when the person, in 
this case, is "Just Starting Out."
        Besides, Sherry and Brian, of Legacy, identify themselves as Support in 
their From lines. Yes, that was my idea. Far better to ask Sherry and Brian 
than to ask a newbie.
        Just my two-bits. Please no flames from anyone.
          Arnold


At 06:33 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote:
> As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might 
> be nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) 
> about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose. Rich in LA CA - 
> Original Message  From: Jenny M Benson  To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 
> 3:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote > My name is 
> Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good!  We already have a "not that 
> Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, 
> the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and 
> read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. 
> -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User




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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In the same way, for US census, in the notes I put  where I have looked for 
missing children (not the dead or known living elsewhere).
ich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:04:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

Mary Trogg wrote
> Finally, as I find facts, I add to a short biography to notes. It's more 
> interesting to read that a family moved from one state to another because the 
> wife was hopelessly homesick, than to read the family lived in Minnesota, 
> moved to Illinois and then back to Minnesota.
> 
> I can choose to print either notes or events or both on a report depending on 
> the recipient. Like I said labor intensive, but it appeals to my compulsive 
> nature. I'm sure there are flaws to this system, but I print few reports and 
> so far it works for me.

That's got to be a good idea because it's one I have recently been mulling over 
in my mind!

I probably wouldn't implement it exactly as you describe, but the basic idea is 
the same - putting everything into Events but writing a more flowing narrative 
in Notes.

Funnily enough I wrote to another LUGger off-list only a couple of hours ago 
describing this, but saying I hadn't quite worked it out enough to "go public" 
with the idea!
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template and how to use it specifically?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I am still using basic, but for those I have at present, I treat it as if an 
e-mail, or letter. 
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Dan Bateham 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:51:08 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template and how to use it 
specifically?

Has anyone any suggestions, with specifics, for using a SourceWriter template 
for documenting an online chat (IRC) more or less in accordance with _EE_ 
standards?

Thanks,
Dan Bateham 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing parent - child relationship

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Yes, but having a bitrh certifcate or bible record, unless there is evidence of 
error/fraud we do not do more than state the document exists, and allow others 
to decide the veracity of it.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:36:24 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing parent - child relationship

First off, I am not talking about the child's relationship-to-father and 
relathionship-to-mother fields.

How do you cite the source for "knowing" these are the parents of this child?  
I mean, there is not a field to attach a source citation TO.  Maybe this is a 
silly question, but I have often wondered how to indicate that I know these are 
his parents because they are listed on his birth certificate, for example.  Or 
"I found his parents' names by looking at his birth certificate"...  Worded 
that way, do I cite the birth certificate on THEIR name fields?  

Am I way out in left field here?  But that relationship is a key item that has 
to be proven / documented for a DAR application, for example.

Thanks, --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough 
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd 
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might be 
nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) 
about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:35:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

wrote
> My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group

Oh good!  We already have a "not that Brian, the other one", now we have the 
matching pair with a "not that Sherry, the other one".

My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything 
you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Using the Descendant - Descendant chart. It doesn't show any brothers at all. 
What chart are you creating?  It sounds like you are using Relationship 
Calculator, but the name in your message has something I couldn't identify. (I 
guessed it). are you basing your right and wrong on your ideas (I am) or the 
legal rules of inheritance, which I think most if not all programs use. I had a 
document of over twenty pages which described who was 'closer', but I lent it 
to someone who never returned it. I never found another one. It dealt mostly in 
the spread of 3 -5 generations, but handled inheritance issues of 
royalty/nobility of over 10 generations. It had some interesting quirks in the 
rules. I don't even remember the name of it. You may want to find a similar 
document. If you gave me the names of your people, and I have them in my DB, I 
can compare your report to mine. Send privately.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:06:51 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I have no problem with Ancestry Colors.  The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor,
as is his brother.  Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color.

It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other
as a GGU.  Because of generations marrying at different times,
intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is
shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU!  Accordingly, Relationship
Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists
is my 28th GGU.

That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the
Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both).  As I
said, Legacy has a problem with the math.  In this case, it cannot
understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who
is both a 26th and a 28th GGF.  Accordingly, all the children in his line
are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator.  Ancestry
Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two
functions do not deal with the math.

It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the
program.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines,
ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you
expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. 
Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found
between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of 
analyzing where the divergences are?
Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each
line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a
marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. 
The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was
using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I
eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was
faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a
external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash'  yet. You may
need more power. I did.
Rich in LA CA
 


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later,
returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or
numbers, or something).  I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling
to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message.  The
default may be 999, but not for my file.  Over many Legacy versions, the
same problem has persisted.

Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem.
Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line
Bolding.

Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would
work.  It does not.  That is why I think it is a mathematical problem -
Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA.


And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the
OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who
cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behal

Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

One quirk. When you first add a new photo, it won't move it sometimes until you 
have left the gallery, and reopened. I have determined the rules of the quirk, 
but it is just easier to do after inputtting is done.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:29:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit

Paula Ryburn wrote
> When you have several pictures in an individual's gallery, and they have been 
> added in the order you found/scanned or took them, there is no way (that I 
> could see) in the gallery to reorder the pictures. 

All you do is drag the picture across to the position you want it to be in.  So 
if you want picture 1 of 5 to be in 4th position, just drag it over on top of 
the 4th position and let go.  Pictures 2, 3 and 4 will move up to be 1, 2 and 
3, the old 1 will be 4 and 5 will stay where it was.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I agree. If the state maintains a database, then that simplifies things. In 
some cases, I use all in the county or city as the unit if quantity makes it 
simpler.
Rich in LA CA




From: Don Jaggi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:41:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources

I have a different appraoch;  If I have  death certificates for ancestors who 
died in Utah.  I have one master source for Utah death certifcates.  I have 20 
individuals linked to that master source for which I have death certificates.  
I have a image of each certifcate in the source detail.  The whole purpose of 
master sources is to make things more manageable.  I do the same with census 
records.  I have one master source for the 1851 census of Fife County Scotland 
and have 10 families linked to this particular census with all the particulars 
in the source detail with images.  


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM, michael barberi  
wrote:

Thanks Jenny. 
>
>
>Mike Barberi
>
>In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
>In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
>St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 
>
>
>
>
>

From: Jenny M Benson 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:57:53 AM 
>
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
>
>michael barberi wrote 
>
>> However, my previous issue still stands.  I have noticed that a Specific 
>> Master Source (for an individual's event) and the attached Picture of the 
>> source document, is showing up in someone else's Death Event (as a source).  
>> It is also in its correct place for the correct specific individual.  Hence, 
>> my question about deleting it from the incorrect person's event and whether 
>> I will lose it all together for the correct person. 
>
>If you go to the Assigned Sources screen for any Individual, click on one of 
>the Sources and then click on Remove, that will disconnect that Source from 
>that Individual only and will *not* delete the Master Source, nor will it 
>disconnect that Master Source from any other Individual who is using the same 
>Source.
>-- Jenny M Benson 
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

You may have a better system already, but for all newbies and us lazy oldies, 
it simplifies things I created as needed in the past.
Rich in LA CA





From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:47:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


I have looked at the Chronology Report and like it.  Nevertheless, this report 
is not the best way to view Residence History.  I don't see how this report 
offers the same advantageous compared to my current approach.   
Thanks for your comments and suggestions.

Mike Barberi

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 





From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


Fair enough.
Have you looked at the Chronology Report?  I have barely used it, but it seems 
popular with others to show events during a person's life.
Best of luck!
--P





From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


Paula:

I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for 
individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization).  I have not.  For 
one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events.  
Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years.  To create a Residence 
History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors 
from City Directories spanning 30 years+.  This has given me much more 
information about Residence History than Census and other single year 
documents.  Hence, I created an Event called "Residence History".  In the Event 
notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses.  Sometimes I 
will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to 
add perspective.  

In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are:

1.  There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most 
immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents.  
2.  I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in 
place and I don't have to print out a report to see it.  It is a "click away". 
3.  One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration 
patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a 
husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that 
immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 
4. The one Event called "Residence History" can be printed out on a person's 
Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the 
comments of other users).  

If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key 
lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  However, I 
continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time.  Then again, I 
could be wrong.

Mike






In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 





From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


Mike,
I have read your posts about "Residence History" and remain puzzled.  I use the 
"Residence" event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in 
the "Description" field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place 
field.  (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty 
sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.)  
Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them).  I am 
missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event.
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas





From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


Does not Events/Facts appear in reports?  If so, I have found creating an Event 
called "Residence History" is a great way to see the migration patterns of your 
ancestors over time.  In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, 
including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as 
those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc.  Its all in one place in 
an easy understandable format.  This does not mean I do

Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

If I am reading you correctly, you will only be removing the source from a 
wrong place, and not going to the Source edit screen at all.  As someone said 
an hour ago (before I went offline) before doing anything, do a backup. But 
removing the source from the event list, will not do anything to the source 
itself.
Rich in LA CA





From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:35:48 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources


Paula:

1. I agree that I record the date of death and the source twice.  Nevertheless, 
I do use the Master Source since it follows the Evidence Rules and I can attach 
pictures of documents.  If I use the notes section of the "Died" icon, I 
duplicate what I am already doing in Event notes.  Like I said, I like the idea 
that I can see at-a-glance all life events of a person displayed on the 
individual's screen.  Hence, I like the Events approach even though I duplicate 
some information.  If I find that my reporting requirements cannot be met by 
this approach, I will try your approach.

2.  Regarding my problem:  The Specific Master Source AND the Picture of the 
certificate of death appearing in the Death Event for the second person 
iswrong.  The "same Specific Master Source and Picture" also appears as the 
Death Event Source and Picture for the first person...which is correct.  Hope 
this is clearer.  Now the question is:  If I delete the Specific Master Source 
and Picture that appears incorrectly for the second person, will this deletion 
impact the same Specific Master Source and Picture for the first person?   I am 
seeking a solution however, I am worried that if I delete this Specific Master 
Source and Picture for the second person, I will lose it for the first person.  
My reasoning:  there is only ONE such Specific Master Source and Picture.  If I 
delete it, I lost it.  I could be wrong.  

Mike Barberi

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 





From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:43:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources

Mike,
Forgive my misunderstanding.  I thought I had read that you were moving away 
from the one master source per fact approach.

I understand what you're doing, but I would not do it that way.  You seem to be 
recording the source of the data twice.  But, to each his own.
(And I could suggest that if you have some Notes about his death, you might 
want to use the Death Notes instead of a new Death Event... checking first that 
your reporting requirements are met.)

Regarding your real problem.  Is the correct master source cited on the 2nd 
person, just with the wrong image?  Or is the wrong master source cited 
entirely?

If it's the correct master source with the wrong picture attached, Edit the 
Master Source, Remove the picture, and attach the correct one.

If it's not the correct master source, go into the individual's attached 
sources (books icon) and Remove that citation.  Then do either your steps 3 and 
4 (if the master source you need never did get added) or just cite the correct 
master source.

Hope this makes sense!  Nothing should happen to the correct person & his 
citations.
--Paula in Texas



From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:50:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources


Paula:

I am new to Legacy so forgive me if my descriptions are not completely clear.  
I will try again using Death as an example.

1.  First I enter the date of death in the field "Died" on the individual's 
screen.
2.  Then I create an EVENT called DEATH below under Event/Facts.  In the 
"Notes" section of the Event Screen called Death, I summarize the source of the 
date of death and what the source said. 
3.  Now, on the Event screen, there are icons for "Adding or Editing Source 
Citations", as well as Pictures.  I click of the Source icon and create a 
"Specific Master Source" for this Death Event (for this individual).  I type in 
the information onto the screen that automatically come up: I name the Source, 
Individual, text of source, etc.  
4.  After I finish entering those details, I now attach to this Specific Master 
Source, a picture of the Certificate of Death.  

When I am viewing an individual's information, and click on the Event "Death", 
and then click on the icon "Source", what is see is:  Four tabs called Output, 
Text/Comments, Repository and Pictures.  If I click on the Output tab, I see 
the information I entered under the headings Footnote/endnote citation, 
subsequent citation, and bibliography.  If I click on the Picture tab, I see a 
copy of the Certificate of 

Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I think Sherry has gone home, so I will help tonight. What we must do is use 
the current name for the location, capture the L/L, then in a persons input 
screen, change the location name to what it was at a given time. Then the L/L 
will be attached to two same/different places (sic).  If you change it in the 
master list the change is universal. I have some places with over six different 
names  (same L/L). 
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Brian Beddor 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17:56 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Hi Sherry,
Thanks for explaining.

I have a question on using the Geo Location feature.  I understand when
entering in the "Place/location" we should always allow for 4 spots and
separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county,
state, country.  I also understand that if we don't know one of the
fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place
holder.  Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do
a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude.  

My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes
over time?  
Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA.  If I have
an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit
the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and
longitude.  And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting
the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is
Rockingham.

However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be
"Londonderry".  And before it was "Londonderry" it was "Nutfield". It
was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry.  And
at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't
Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of
Rockingham.

I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time.
So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different
times?
And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put "Nutfield, ,
New Hampshire, England"? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to
work for that that place/time?

Thanks,
Brian



-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations.  I miswrote when I said "Live
Mapping" - I meant "Virtural Earth", now known as "Bing".  You have to
be
connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is "live" in the
sense
that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and
geo-coordinates.

It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't
show
counties like Geo does.  Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all
current and there is no historical information.  Well, occasionally I
spot
something that no longer exists but that's a rarity.

Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the
current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific
locations.

Full details are in the Legacy Help file.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
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We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates

Hi Sherry,
Could you elaborate on what "Live Mapping" is and how it is different
from
the "Geo Location Database"?
How does one do "Live Mapping" from within the Legacy program?

Thanks,
Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

ectly
> calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the
> Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough!
>
> Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the
2nd
> GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the
> intervening ancestors not direct ancestors.
>
> Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th
GGU,
> is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM,
> BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th
> GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly
> calculated as 28th GGU.
>
> Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all
> find that relationship; just not the Calculator!
>
> I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT
> is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll
> bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST
relationship,
> it could calculate correctly.
>
> Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others
reported
> YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations
when
> they get complicated!!!
>
>
> CE
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
>
> It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If
> there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which
> should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to
> Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither
> confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I
> didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors.
> Sorry if I missunderstand the issue.
> Rich in LA CA
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: CE Wood 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
>
> That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR
> WORKED!  My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an
> explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator,
nor
> a solution.  Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years
>
>
> CE
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of Sherry/Support
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
>
> I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a
> worksheet.  Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own
> forms for you to fill out.
>
> Thanks for using Legacy.
>
> Sherry
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
>
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
> Thanks.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of Paula Ryburn
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
>
> This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
> application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the
> lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
> one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my
mother
> and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
> would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
> and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
> way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
> Thanks,
> --Paula
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Just add 5-10 family members, open a few reports using preview. Then start 
collecting the documents that prove you exist, and enter that.Then re-do what 
you want to change. It is a never ending process. As someone said decades ago, 
when you think you are done with someone, that relative had 2 parents, etc.
Rich in LA CA





From: "daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net" 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:48:20 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out


Hi Everyone,
 
My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for 
about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only 
purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he 
wrote:
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Here is the actual request (my paraphrase)? Can we add a source button to 
include in the Relationship Calculator, to have a print choice. It might be a 
bit cumbersome, but you could have it print only the tagged sources. This could 
be done better (IMO) in Publishing Center. Then you can print the RC, finishing 
with the desired Sources. In each case, I would want to pick through the 
sources, each time I print the RC anyway. Or did you want all the descendants, 
or  a report including only the tagged children?
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Rich,
I use Deluxe, too.

There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a 
direct line.  You specify where to start, and it works back from there.

What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a 
direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the 
program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or 
more FEMALES.

I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as 
one "leg" of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common 
ancestor).  In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only 
use the second half of the RC logic.

(I also asked to be able to include source citations.)

--Paula in Texas



- Original Message ----
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the 
Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this 
is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy!  It IS an important aspect to
genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen
years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Terri Brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you
described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for
Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging
each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother
and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula

 


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

Exactly right, Valerie.  Thanks for explaining it better than I could.
Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing.
Chick

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
> No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and
> having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route.
> The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature.
>
> At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have
to
> make one for myself to see if it matches.
> Valerie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of John S. Adams
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
> Chick,
> Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting
> couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and
> spo

Re: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ??

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I always gedcom into a new file, fix the locations and sources MY way, then add 
it into my main DB, then do a merge. The group taught me that when I was a 
Newbie, and we try to repeat it regularly for the next batch of newbies to hear.
Rich in LA CA





From: Kirsten Bowman 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:56:14 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ??


George:
 
When you import a GEDCOM from FTM into Legacy you'll probably be shocked at the 
data entry inconsistencies you'll find.  I know I was, and many others have 
said the same thing.  For this reason I think it would be best to handle the 
GEDCOMs separately.  Open them in separate Legacy files and clean up one at a 
time before you consider merging them.  Personally I *hate* merging files 
because I'm never quite sure exactly what's going to come along with the merge; 
I'd rather use the largest file as my base and then manually add data from the 
other smaller files.  Other users are probably braver and can give you better 
guidance on merging if you decide on that route, but don't fail to clean up the 
files before merging.
 
Kirsten
-Original Message-
>From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of 
>George Ferguson
>Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:56 PM
>To: Legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ??
>
>
>I am just getting started with legacy and have a bunch of related (but poorly) 
>FTM files I am converting to GEDCOM. I then want to combine the essence of 
>these files into a single Legacy file. 
>
>Can anyone suggest an orderly procedure for doing this ?
>
>I see different things that the legacy manual can help you organize-such as 
>consistency in addresses etc.
>
>I just have trouble seeing what order things are best done in.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>George
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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Last I heard they were considering/awaiting permission from DAR.
Not an official thing but discussed at a convention.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:05:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I wasn't intending to have a report from Legacy duplicate the form DAR (or 
another organization) requires.  Just wanted a more flexible worksheet.  I will 
make the suggestion and see where that takes us! ;)
Thanks,
--Paula

 


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:46:02 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy!  It IS an important aspect to
genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen
years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Terri Brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you
described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for
Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging
each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother
and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula

 


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

Exactly right, Valerie.  Thanks for explaining it better than I could.
Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing.
Chick

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
> No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and
> having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route.
> The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature.
>
> At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have
to
> make one for myself to see if it matches.
> Valerie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of John S. Adams
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
> Chick,
> Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting
> couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and
> spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line,
ggrandchildren
> on the fourth, etc.  In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant
Chart
> type.
>
> By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above
without
> showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.?
>
> John S. Adams
> Hermosa Beach, CA
>
> --
> From: "Chick Lewis" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
>> John,
>>
>> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families.  That
>> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact,
>> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4
>> generations at a time.  I am not sure I know what a drop-down
>> descendant chart is.  Is it printable in a book or a web page?
>>
>> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I
>> rather not go back to it.  Does anyone know if one of the Legacy
>> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart?
>>
>> Chick
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams
>> wrote:
>>> Chick,
>>>
>>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or
>>> box
>>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu.
>>>
>>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart
>>> with
>>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first
>>> chart
>>> would show the sta

Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If 
there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which 
should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to 
Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither confirmed 
nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I didn't understand 
why you thought it outputting errors.
Sorry if I missunderstand the issue.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR
WORKED!  My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an
explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor
a solution.  Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years


CE


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Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a
worksheet.  Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own
forms for you to fill out.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother
and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula





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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the 
Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this 
is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy!  It IS an important aspect to
genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen
years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Terri Brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you
described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for
Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging
each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother
and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula

 


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

Exactly right, Valerie.  Thanks for explaining it better than I could.
Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing.
Chick

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
> No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and
> having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route.
> The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature.
>
> At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have
to
> make one for myself to see if it matches.
> Valerie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of John S. Adams
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
> Chick,
> Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting
> couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and
> spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line,
ggrandchildren
> on the fourth, etc.  In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant
Chart
> type.
>
> By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above
without
> showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.?
>
> John S. Adams
> Hermosa Beach, CA
>
> --
> From: "Chick Lewis" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
>> John,
>>
>> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families.  That
>> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact,
>> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4
>> generations at a time.  I am not sure I know what a drop-down
>> descendant chart is.  Is it printable in a book or a web page?
>>
>> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I
>> rather not go back to it.  Does anyone know if one of the Legacy
>> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart?
>>
>> Chick
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams
>> wrote:
>>> Chick,
>>>
>>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or
>>> box
>>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu.
>>>
>>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart
>>> with
>>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first
>>> chart
>>> would show the starting couple with all their children and children's
>>> spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then
>>> a
>>> chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired
>>> number of generations. The number of pages required would of course
>>> depend
>>> on the number of 

Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In the past, this happened to me. At the time the program was doing weird 
things. That was in  L6,  but  I recently found the ?last? of them still hiding 
in my DB. You do not mention if you are XP or Vista.
Rich in LA CA





From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:25:53 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources


I have noticed that several specific Master Sources (specific to an 
individual's event) are showing up as the Sources of other family member 
events.  For example, the death event source for Liberato Barbieri shows the 
death source for Pasquale Barbieri.  The picture of the Death Record for 
Liberato is also Pasquale's.  However, when I go to Pasquale's death event 
record, the source and death certificate picture is also there.   If I delete 
the death record source for Liberato, will I be deleting the death record 
source for Pasquale?  Apart from solving this specific problem, does any one 
know why this occurred? 

Mike Barberi

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In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

' the Picture Gallery is straightforward, easy to handle and hard to go wrong 
with; the Picture Gallery, on'  Did you mean Picture Center on the second one. 
I am guessing.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:40:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?

Paula Ryburn wrote
> Is the Picture Gallery the same as the Picture Center?  Because I don't see 
> these 'private' tabs.

No, two different things.

If you have an Individual's Information screen open and you click on the 
Picture icon, you open that Indidivudal's Picture Gallery.

The Picture Centre, accessed via Tools>Picture Centre is like a little workshop 
where you work on anyone and everyone's pictures.

Another difference is that the Picture Gallery is straightforward, easy to 
handle and hard to go wrong with; the Picture Gallery, on the other hand, is 
rather complex and confusing and not so easy to work with. Well that's my 
opinion and one which I know is shared by other LUGgers.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I used that tool to help me fill in lineage group forms. (In L5?) I printed out 
the Relationship Calcualtor for my family member on one side and the ancestor 
on the other. Then hand copying the details. Some of the organizations are in 
process of getting a gedcom - based download system, but each group has its' 
own needs. What is the suggestion?
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:23:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR 
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the 
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at one 
end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother and 
her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else would 
use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and 
siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way 
through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula

 


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

Exactly right, Valerie.  Thanks for explaining it better than I could.
Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing.
Chick

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
> No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and
> having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route.
> The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature.
>
> At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to
> make one for myself to see if it matches.
> Valerie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of John S. Adams
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
> Chick,
> Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting
> couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and
> spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren
> on the fourth, etc.  In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart
> type.
>
> By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without
> showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.?
>
> John S. Adams
> Hermosa Beach, CA
>
> --
> From: "Chick Lewis" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>
>> John,
>>
>> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families.  That
>> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact,
>> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4
>> generations at a time.  I am not sure I know what a drop-down
>> descendant chart is.  Is it printable in a book or a web page?
>>
>> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I
>> rather not go back to it.  Does anyone know if one of the Legacy
>> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart?
>>
>> Chick
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams
>> wrote:
>>> Chick,
>>>
>>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or
>>> box
>>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu.
>>>
>>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart
>>> with
>>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first
>>> chart
>>> would show the starting couple with all their children and children's
>>> spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then
>>> a
>>> chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired
>>> number of generations. The number of pages required would of course
>>> depend
>>> on the number of generations and the number of children in each
>>> generation.
>>>
>>> Is this what you're looking for?
>>>
>>> John S. Adams
>>> Hermosa Beach, CA
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Chick Lewis" 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:26 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books
>>>
 Alastair,
 Thank you for your response. I am not ready to publish as yet. I am
 still trying to determine what should go in the book and what type of
 charts to use. It is difficult to create a readable chart with more
 than 4 generations on a single standard size page. An ancestor chart
 or pedigree chart can easily span several generations with
 continuations to other pages, but that does not work very well with
 descendant charts. I am looking for a way to create a descendant

Re: [LegacyUG] MRINs - why they be 8-digits long?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Paula, I had a similar problem a few years ago. I had to merge five backups 
together and made #2 start at 11, #3 at 21, etc. Athough I had merged 
into one database again, when I added new people, did not notice the numbers 
continued from 5023456. It had also done the same to MRINS. I eventually 
created fake people, that were given the 'correct' numbers, and merged each 
high number into a correct 'lowest' number. There were only about 20 people 
with high numbers so it took a few hours. I later realized I could have created 
a gedcom of the high numbers, detleted them fromt the main DB, and brought them 
in with a new starting number (the correct next number) and the computer will 
'forget' the other 'deleted high numbers' were next.
Since I've played the game, and confused the computer, send privately if needed.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:20:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRINs - why they be 8-digits long?

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Paula Ryburn
 wrote:

>I've just discovered that the MRIN's (which I haven't had displayed for a 
>while) are 8 digits long on most (probably all) the marriages I've entered 
>this year.  
>
>Well, they are AT LEAST 8 digits long.  I can't see the whole number in the 
>little window at the bottom, and for the life of me I can't find how to 
>display them anywhere else.  
>
>It's confined to my husband's father's branch (that's what we've been working 
>most intensely on this year).  I could get more specific if I need to; would 
>require more time.  
>
>It happens on marriage where I have a date and/or place and on those where I 
>just know they were married.
>
>Please send me some suggestions on where to look for the source of this 
>problem.  Or feel free to tell me it's not even a problem!

It's not a problem as far as the database is concerned.

If the "appearance" of an 8-digit MRIN is a problem for you, you can use
Renumber RINs (also does MRINs) to fill in the gaps. I'm not sure if
this will reset the value of the highest used MRIN though, so you might
want to check by adding another marriage to see what gets assigned. [[
There is a way to muck with the database to reset this. ]]

Of course, you don't want to renumber MRINs if you are using the MRIN
Filing System.

Backup first.

-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] problem downloading

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Back when I was on dialup and a slow desktop, I would start a download at 
bedtime and wake up with it waiting with the 'finish' parts in the morning. 
Then my area finally got DSL. Hooray. ( I still remember the pain of waiting.)
Rich in LA CA





From: Linda Bischoff 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:22:13 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] problem downloading


Thanks Ron. Maybe that’s what is happening, although the “wait” has been over 5 
minutes.  Will try it again.
 
Linda
 
From:k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
ronald ferguson
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] problem downloading
 
Linda,

When you say it quits in the middle of updating do you mean it stalls and you 
think it has finished and exit and you then get the message?

When there is an update Legacy will appear to stall when in fact it is actually 
updating a section of your program, the delay will vary depending on how big 
that part of the update actually is. It may then skip a load of files if your 
already have the latest version of them until it meets another which needs 
updating.

Do not exit the install until Legacy says it is done.

Ron Ferguson

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> From: lkbisch...@mchsi.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] problem downloading
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:21:43 -0400
> 
> Everytime I try to update my legacy using the update on the legacy home tab,
> the download quits in the middle of it and then it tells me I have to
> download from the website. When I try to download from the servers on the
> site, the download again stalls. Can someone help or do you have any ideas.
> Using Windows XP.
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Linda B.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source tagging error?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I always thought (and used) triangle means add to the current highlighted one, 
and the three bars means ALL lines. But since I never wanted that, I didn't 
confirm if my 'guess' was right.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source tagging error?

Eileen wrote
> Boy, I hope I have explained this clear enough for you to understand what is 
> happening, just don't know all the terms for each and every thing on the 
> screen.  I do know that the three lines should ONLY mark the lines on the 
> person screen and not go down and mark each and every Event/Fact showing in 
> the lower window.

What makes you think that?  It's not so.  Using the "3 bar" icon copies the 
contents of the Source Clipboard to *all* fields which have data in them.  
Events are fields just like any other.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] An apparent bug?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I suspect the programers made a rule that no name can be less than 2 characters 
or something similar. This is possibly a Windows rule, or Access rule. You have 
a person named I. I have lot in my database. When using Roman Numerals the 
program is confused. It is actually spell checking and not finding it. I just 
accepted the quirk and used the Potential Problems to 'fix'  the problem. 
Rich in LA CA
. 


- Original Message 
From: "jraymond...@aol.com" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An apparent bug?

Rich,
I've already done that.  But the  question remains...Why does this message 
appear?  The message is clearly  wrong as the given name and surname 
absolutely have more than one letter in each  field.  Can someone else 
duplicate 
this issue?

Jon  




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Re: [LegacyUG] An apparent bug?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Just ignore the note you recieved and go to potential problems and choose to 
have the computer ignore it forever.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: "jraymond...@aol.com" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:39:09 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] An apparent bug?

I entered the following new individual: Edward  Grantham and in the suffix 
field entered "I" (capital "i" for "the first" rather  than "senior").

I then got the following Standardization Tip" "The Given  name or Surname 
for this individual is only on character.  You should  verify or correct 
this."

First, both the given name and surname  definitely have more than one 
character.  Second, why should entering a  capital "i", rather than "senior" 
generate this message?

Finally, the  Standardization Tip is grammatically wrong.  Neither "given" 
nor "surname"  is a proper noun and neither word should be capitalized.

Jon  Raymond
St Paul Park,  MN
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~raymond/  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing an almanac

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I would use David H. Brown as the compiler of record. Notes on the SW would 
explain why you did it. Then if more details are found later, you can change 
all you want.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Arnold Sprague 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:28:53 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing an almanac

I found the death date and place of my 4th great-grandfather in the almanac 
described at the bottom of this message. To see the almanac, go to the link 
immediately below:
.

The issue for me is that there is neither an author nor an editor for the 
almanac and thus there is not, I think, a SourceWriter template for it. Even 
taking the non-SourceWriter alternative, an author is still required.

I need some help on how to source the almanac. The only information I have from 
the front of the almanac is what I include below the plus signs.

Thank you.
Arnold

+++
The American Almanac and Repository of Useful Knowledge for the Year 1841
Published by David H. Williams
Boston




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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center - Undo "Set Preferred"

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

If what your feeling is that your only picture for a person is the grave, which 
you don't want to look at continuously, you might want to take one of the 
default pictures with Windows (flowers, skys, animals, etc.). They are already 
in the DB, so no downloading, and minimal space requirements. It is better than 
removing them and misplacing those photos you want in the directories. I have 
also added photos of buildings family lived in, and churches they attended, and 
finally postcards for the area. You may never find a 'mugshot' of your person 
but you can find something positive to memorialize each one.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:20:15 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center - Undo "Set Preferred"

William H. Boswell wrote
> I looked through the manual, but did not find a way to reset an image to not 
> be Preferred.  In other words, I have images of grave stones for people that 
> I don't want to include as their profile picture.  I also do not have a photo 
> of these people.  Does the program automatically assign at least one photo as 
> preferred? 

Yes, it does!

Help says "The picture in the number one position is considered the Preferred 
Picture by default  This picture is displayed on the Family and Pedigree Views 
whenever the individual is current.  The Preferred Picture is also printed on 
reports that include pictures."

Obviously if you only have one picture it will be in the number one position!

You can prevent a picture appearing in reports by the use of Picture Tagging 
and Report Options, but it will still show on the person's profile.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

If my ancestor Alexander Mc Dougal always signed his name 'wrong' his whole 
life, does that make it right?
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:34:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?

I disagree with Mary Slawson on this one (I have her book and I like it). 
People who have a Mc last name do not put a space when they write it.

michele

- Original Message - From: "Jenny M Benson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?


> Kirsten Bowman wrote
>> _Getting It Right_ by Mary H. Slawson recommends leaving a space.
> 
> I am amazed,  I would have said that inserting a space between Mc or Mac
> and the rest of the name was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
> -- Jenny M Benson
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Sources suggestions

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I added these tools back in the Basic days. My letters, correspondences and 
other 'not available anywhere in the world but from me'  a comma as the first 
character 
,Lincoln, Abraham letter to John Smith; 
,Smith, Mary - Pedigree charts and family group sheets- 17 pages; 
and government/church transcripts with a period.
.USA, IL, Cook, Chicago, 1880 census; 
.USA, KY, Owen, New Liberty Baptist Church records 
and let the books have no character at the first spot. This clumps all the 
stuff into the 3 categories family docs, official docs, and compiled docs.
You need to come up with a philosophy of what you want to do. I am now 
switching over to EE, but you have to come up with naming ideas, anyway. 
Abbreviations (where and when)?, How big the area (country, state, county, 
city, census page)? and each e-mail from a person separate or combined 
together. 
Each of us must or already have found 'my' answers to these questions.
Good Luck
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Kirsten Bowman 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:48:21 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Sources suggestions

Doris:

You covered a whole basket of topics in this post and I won't even try to
respond to all, but I think the first one to address is organization of your
Master Source List.  Since you're an _EE_ fan, check p 67.  I don't think
it's possible (or even advisable) to apply an "everything must match"
philosophy to organizing sources, and that's where Legacy's separate fields
for Source List Name and Source Title comes in so handy.  Books, for
example, should be grouped by author and title, but that doesn't work at all
for census records or for birth/marriage/death records.  Some things lend
themselves best to being grouped by geographic location and others work
better when grouped by source type.  Now that you apparently have a fairly
long list of Master Sources, and before you begin reworking it, I'd suggest
you take a close look at the items there and think about how to group them.
That will then dictate the informal Source List Name you use (since the list
is alphabetized by that name) and the Source Title (since that dictates the
sequence in the bibliography).

There are also some tricks that you can use to force the Master List
sorting.  For example, in the Source List Name I always preceed a book title
with "Book" so all the books sort together alphabetically by title.  Others
use codes to accomplish the same thing.  Neither of these will appear in the
source notes or bibliography but they will definitely help to organize your
list of Master Sources so that you can find things easily.  By spending some
serious thought up front on how to organize, I think you'll be much happier
with the end result.

I'm sure list members would be happy to suggest source grouping approaches
if you ask.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of
Doris
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Sources suggestions


Hi All,
I am in hopes that some of you more experienced users can advise me on the
best way to clean up master sources? When originally entered, I created a
source (relative to whichever event) example Birth Certificate: Jane Doe,
DOB. Now that my list of sources is getting so long, I thought I would use
Legacy's SW and create one source per state per event, example for Birth
Records: "Pennsylvania, Birth Certificates After 1906". In my obsession also
of "everything must match", I am confusing myself as to what way is the best
way is to represent my research. Since SW mirrors EE, I thought it would be
best to switch to this format. The final result must make sense and be easy
to follow so that I can be consistent here on out when adding new
information. Truth be told, this attempt at organization maintenance is how
I ended recreating my file from scratch while using FTM and now that the
number of individuals in my file has quadrupled, I don't wish to repeat this
nightmare.

I have yet to make use of the tagging features in the program, mainly from a
lack of understanding of how and why they would be used. Can tagging be used
to mark the records I want to convert from an individual basic source to a
source writer source? Or else, can it only be changed tediously, one record
at time by adding and removing sources and than once a source has no one
associated with it, deleting it?

Some of you have mentioned the "Source Template Conversion Tool", but if I
am following correctly this feature is not yet available in the Legacy
program? Any suggested work about, like maybe this L Tools some have
mentioned?

Hope I made enough sense that someone can offer some sage advice!
Thanks!
Doris






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Re: [LegacyUG] I just updated the Legacy Charting program and

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I see possible spelling errors in you file name, which most of us are used to 
ignoring (usually) but the computer is not as flexible. You left the a out
 of Legacy. I make spelling errors all the time, but I don't know if that is 
the problem?
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: Legacy E-Mail List 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:41:21 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] I just updated the Legacy Charting program and

Every time I try to generate a chart I get the following error message...

Cannot create file "C:\Program
Files\Millennia\Legcy\Charting7\data\AncStand\_Default.theme".
The system cannont find the path specified.

How do I fix this?

michele





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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Because I started with computers 30 years ago and memory was expensive, I used 
a lot of one letter words, and put a - when it
 was blank, for a place saver, to maintain the columns (never really looked 
good).  The important part is to make your transcription something that you 
(and others) can look at and understand what the census actually says. Example 
in 1930 NR means no radio but elsewhere NRNW means no read no write. 
Do what makes sense to you. For your question 2 I use NDDB = Not Deaf, Dumb, 
Blind; beause my family members that had one or more of these situations , had 
the types filled in there, so I saw someone on a page, near my relation who had 
deaf and dumb, and idiotic listed. I put Y for speak English or N for obvious. 
I at one time had tried to move the details into Excel, but it was eating up 
too much memory. Now I can afford more but don't want to do it anymore. I am 
content with what I have.
Rich in LA CA

- Original Message 
From: Alan Jones 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:34:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

I have seen many post about how to document/source Census information and the 
different styles and to be honest I have not made up my mind and won't till I 
have really done enough to decide.  What I have seen less discussion of and 
really wanted to know more of is how to others document the lines/columns in a 
Census or do you even bother?

1. In Legacy you have an event called Census.  What others enter do and find 
works best and why for the related event fields?
-Description:
-Date:
-Place:
-Notes:

2. How do you enter specific fields such as in the 1900 US Census like:
  Relation, Color or Race, Attended School, Can Read, Can Write, Can speak 
English, Owner or rented home, Farm or House .. or even my favorite in the 1870 
Census is "Whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, or idiotic.

Do you actually type "Can Read:" then Yes or No etc.? For each field?

Where do you put that info so it looks right and shows up.

3. Do you do anything different if they are Head of House Hold vs not?

4. If you find an occupation field do then also enter that information into a 
new occupation event?  Same thing

This information sorta seems like source text, but that did not seem like the 
best place to put it so it would show up "right" in most reports.

I could see how some would even put it in two places event and source text and 
I don't mind doing that if that were the "best thing" 
How do others handle all the fields and fun details so it shows right in 
reports or do you just say they were listed in the Census and provide no 
detailed information?

More details the better.

thanks for any all suggestions


Alan







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Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Gallery

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I was printing from Picture gallery. I didn't know about Scrapbook existing. 
Thank you.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Terri Brown 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:00:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Gallery

Rich,

I think what you are looking for is the Scrapbook (View > Scrapbook). There is 
an option to Only include tagged multimedia. Once you click on Print Scrapbook, 
you can choose other options like how many pictures per page. You can tag/untag 
items in the Picture Gallery for use in the Scrapbook.

Mine is not cooperating at the moment. Every time I click on Preview, Legacy 
freezes up. Hmmm. Bug or my PC? Off to play with that little problem.

Terri



- Original Message ----
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 7:15:36 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Photo Gallery

I have some people with 'dozens' of photos. Looking at the Gallery, I uncheck 
many of them to create a Photo Album with less than the whole batch. Using the 
'Preview' it still includes ALL of them. I can not find, in either the book or 
the help file, how to print a partial list. What I have been doing is create a 
Photo album at 30 per page, then send to a 'new' family member to choose which 
they might like to have forwarded to them, but some of the photos are actually 
scans of documents, which are not offered by me in this operation.
I don't want to remove the photos from my photo gallery and reinstall later.
Rich in LA CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

There are choice tabs hiding in the Chronology setup areas, and other places. 
They may be marked private elsewhere. I won't tell how many times I 'must have 
changed it and forgot'.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Kirstin 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:19:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

I have the Deluxe version 7 on a windows XP machine (Dell 9200 Laptop). 
I entered numerous different events & made sure Show Events was checked 
under options, but none of the events show up under the chronology tab. 
Even my marriage doesn't show up. Just the children. I know this was 
working better before. I already ran the Check/Repair with no issues 
found. Any ideas?

Kirstin

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> That is what the Chronology tab is for. It is in Delixe.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: michael barberi 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:48:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from 
> Location
>
>
> Ron:
>
> Thanks for responding.  My main point was that there is no single place in 
> Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors.  I believe that this 
> information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues.  
> Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of 
> individuals throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through 
> an "broad" Event, such as Residence History.  In one "click" on your mouse or 
> in a print out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see "at-a-glance" 
> the most important information summarize appropriately.  You can then compare 
> such migration information to other family members, etc.  Patterns will 
> emerge that will enable you to write a great family story.
>
> It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we 
> all could see a migration pattern plotting chart.  It would be also 
> interesting to overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family 
> members information.  Hence, one could view a complete family's migration 
> history.  Any thoughts?
>
> Mike Barberi
>
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ronald ferguson 
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from 
> Location
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where 
> it says "Place" in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and 
> not the Address Fields in the Address Book.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage
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> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
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> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>  
>> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700
>> From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from 
>> Location
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an 
>> Event called "Residence History" is a great way to see the migration 
>> patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known 
>> addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, 
>> and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. 
>> Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I 
>> don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't 
>> know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors 
>> locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place.
>>
>> Mike Barberi
>>
>> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
>> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
>> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: ronald ferguso

Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Both may be correct! or neither!
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:54:56 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?

What's the standard for entering surnames that begin with "Mc".. leave a 
space or not?  For example, "Mc Dowell" or "McDowell"...?  In looking for ALL 
CAPS in the Surname list, I discovered I have entered the "Mc" names both ways.
Thanks,
--Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Sources suggestions

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I reccommend making a different source for each governmental unit. If ALL 
births are from the same state list, then yes, but if from other sources, keep 
separate. Example,  in my state each county creates its own  records, and sends 
them to a statewide indexm later. Yours may be all  in the same list, but I 
would split by county groups anyway. Example:  
" Pennsylvania, Alleghany County, Birth Certificates After 1906 " and " 
Pennsylvania, Erie County, Birth Certificates After 1906 "  The sources sort 
better that way. (I have family in about 30 counties in Indiana,  so this keeps 
me sane.
Rich in LA CA


From: Doris 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:13:21 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cleaning up Sources suggestions


Hi All,
I am in hopes that some of you more experienced users can advise me on the best 
way to clean up master sources? When originally entered, I created a source 
(relative to whichever event) example Birth Certificate: Jane Doe, DOB. Now 
that my list of sources is getting so long, I thought I would use Legacy’s SW 
and create one source per state per event, example for Birth Records: ” 
Pennsylvania , Birth Certificates After 1906”. In my obsession also of 
“everything must match”, I am confusing myself as to what way is the best way 
is to represent my research. Since SW mirrors EE, I thought it would be best to 
switch to this format. The final result must make sense and be easy to follow 
so that I can be consistent here on out when adding new information. Truth be 
told, this attempt at organization maintenance is how I ended recreating my 
file from scratch while using FTM and now that the number of individuals in my 
file has quadrupled, I don’t wish
 to repeat this nightmare. 
 
I have yet to make use of the tagging features in the program, mainly from a 
lack of understanding of how and why they would be used. Can tagging be used to 
mark the records I want to convert from an individual basic source to a source 
writer source? Or else, can it only be changed tediously, one record at time by 
adding and removing sources and than once a source has no one associated with 
it, deleting it?
 
Some of you have mentioned the “Source Template Conversion Tool”, but if I am 
following correctly this feature is not yet available in the Legacy program? 
Any suggested work about, like maybe this L Tools some have mentioned?
 
Hope I made enough sense that someone can offer some sage advice!
Thanks!
Doris
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

That is what the Chronology tab is for. It is in Delixe.





From: michael barberi 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:48:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


Ron:

Thanks for responding.  My main point was that there is no single place in 
Legacy that deals with migration patterns of ancestors.  I believe that this 
information is very important if someone wants to understand such issues.  
Therefore, having a complete history of locations and addresses of individuals 
throughout their lifetime (in one place) can be created through an "broad" 
Event, such as Residence History.  In one "click" on your mouse or in a print 
out of an individual's genealogy data, you can see "at-a-glance" the most 
important information summarize appropriately.  You can then compare such 
migration information to other family members, etc.  Patterns will emerge that 
will enable you to write a great family story.

It would be great if Legacy could develop a migration capability so that we all 
could see a migration pattern plotting chart.  It would be also interesting to 
overlay one individual's migration pattern on to other family members 
information.  Hence, one could view a complete family's migration history.  Any 
thoughts?

Mike Barberi

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) 





From: ronald ferguson 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:54:38 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


Mike,

Yes, Events/Facts appear in reports and they contain the Location Field where 
it says "Place" in the Event boxes. Which is why I use Location Fields and not 
the Address Fields in the Address Book.



Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:25:33 -0700
> From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from 
> Location
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an 
> Event called "Residence History" is a great way to see the migration patterns 
> of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by 
> year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as 
> well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one 
> place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record 
> addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any 
> way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over 
> his/her lifetime in one place.
>
> Mike Barberi
>
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>
>
> 
> From: ronald ferguson
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:51:30 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from 
> Location
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this 
> one!
>
> Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only for 
> living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in which I 
> include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country (I'm from 
> England).
>
> Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also 
> find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the 
> Location Field.
>
> Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved, 
> I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-).
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree
> at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: whbosw...@gmail.com
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
>> Date: Wed,

Re: [LegacyUG] pros/cons source conversion

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Not yet. Thanks. 
Rich in lA CA





From: Leon Chapman 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pros/cons source conversion

Rich:

Have you tried LTools??
That S/W converts the old sources to the new source format.
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:17 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES  
wrote:

Paula,
>I've said it before. My 2000+ sources are waiting for the conversion tool. I 
>also create new Basic ones when a similar type is found in Basic. It is 
>driving me crazy, but I am too busy on line getting new data, (and life), so I 
>will wait till I have spare time. 
>Rich in LA CA ;-)
>
>
>
>
>- Original Message 
>From: Paula Ryburn 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:33:37 AM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] pros/cons source conversion
>
>I have been contemplating converting my (old) sources from Basic to Source 
>Writer format.  However, I'm thinking I just have the urge to do it due to my 
>personality...  "everything must match" etc.
>
>I would appreciate it if any of you on this list could share with me any 
>concrete advantages to converting perfectly good Basic format sources to 
>Source Writer format.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>--Paula in Texas
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] pros/cons source conversion

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Paula,
I've said it before. My 2000+ sources are waiting for the conversion tool. I 
also create new Basic ones when a similar type is found in Basic. It is driving 
me crazy, but I am too busy on line getting new data, (and life), so I will 
wait till I have spare time. 
Rich in LA CA ;-)



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:33:37 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] pros/cons source conversion

I have been contemplating converting my (old) sources from Basic to Source 
Writer format.  However, I'm thinking I just have the urge to do it due to my 
personality...  "everything must match" etc.

I would appreciate it if any of you on this list could share with me any 
concrete advantages to converting perfectly good Basic format sources to Source 
Writer format.

Thanks in advance,
--Paula in Texas




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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I reccomend going to the Master Location List,  find a cemetery, choose show 
people, tag all with a clean tag. Then add the burial address (which you did 
cut and paste for), and change the location on that person. It takes a while, 
ut I got fast at it after a while.
Rich in LA CA




From: William H. Boswell 
To: Legacy Family Tree List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:54:00 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location


I know this is going to be confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help 
of Legacy.  I looked at a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that 
it was recommended that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving 
only the city and state.  A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 
because it seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there 
now.
 
Multiple Questions on this one:
 
1)  I tagged all the cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking 
on the plus sign.  Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and 
start moving cemetery names from there.  I can't find anything within the 
program that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if 
you can't?
 
2)  Should this be done for all locations including residences where the person 
lived?  I have a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I 
don't want to have to revert back with hundreds of them.
 
3)  Are mailing list addresses just for living people or residences where the 
person lived (i.e., census, death notices, etc.).  This question kind of goes 
with item 2.
 
4)  Master List Location list:  only city and state?
 
I'm finding this very confusing.  I think I'm going to have to purchase and 
download the PDF manual then read the entire thing.
 
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[LegacyUG] Photo Gallery

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I have some people with 'dozens' of photos. Looking at the Gallery, I uncheck 
many of them to create a Photo Album with less than the whole batch. Using the 
'Preview' it still includes ALL of them. I can not find, in either the book or 
the help file, how to print a partial list. What I have been doing is create a 
Photo album at 30 per page, then send to a 'new' family member to choose which 
they might like to have forwarded to them, but some of the photos are actually 
scans of documents, which are not offered by me in this operation.
I don't want to remove the photos from my photo gallery and reinstall later.
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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you list these military events?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

It depends on what you want to do with the 'facts'. If you can attach photos 
for 'most' of the locations, it might be better to split the Events then. If 
you use the chronology tool, that would be good. Some of those places may have 
'museums' at the sites (to photograph). This also depends where you might use 
it eventually. 
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Michele Lewis  wrote:

> From: Michele Lewis 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] How would you list these military events?
> To: "Legacy E-Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 9:19 AM
> I am looking at one of the most
> complete CSA records I have ever seen.
> 
> 03 Sep 1861 - enlisted in the CSA at Camp McDonald, GA.
> 03 Sep 1861 to 03 Nov 1861 - listed as present on the
> company muster roll
> Nov 1861 - listed as absent on Regimental Return, "Left at
> home in Ga. on [?] furlough
> 03 Nov 1861 to 01 Jan 1862 - listed as present on the
> company muster roll
> Jan and Feb 1862 - listed as present on the company muster
> roll
> Mar and Apr 1862 - listed as present on the company muster
> roll.  "Detailed on special duy"
> Jul 1862 - listed as absent on Regimental Return, "Sent to
> Genl hospital"
> 29 Sep 1862 - listed on morning report as being released
> back to duty from General Hospital, Camp Winder, Richmond,
> VA
> 30 Sep 1862 - listed on morning report as being released
> back to duty from General Hospital, Camp Winder, Richmond,
> VA.
> 23 Jul 1863 - listed as a casualty [missing] in Wright's
> Brigade in engagement at Manassa Gap, VA
> Sep and Oct 1863 - listed as present on the company muster
> roll
> 31 Oct 1863 - listed on the hospital muster roll, 2d
> Division, Jackson Hospital, Richmond, VA
> Nov and Dec 1863 - listed as absent on the company muster
> roll. "Furloughed from hospital"
> 08 Nov 1863 - listed as being admitted to General Hospital
> #9, Richmond, VA.
> 09 Nov 1863 - listed as being transferred from General
> Hospital #9 Richmond, VA to Jackson Hospital Richmond, VA
> 10 Nov 1863 - Admitted to Jackson Hospital in Richmond, VA
> with "Debilitas" [Defined as weakness or feebleness]
> 18 Nov 1863 - Furloughed from Jackson Hospital Richmond, VA
> for 30 days
> 1864 - listed on a receipt roll for clothing, issued "2
> qr"
> 1864 - listed on a receipt roll for clothing, issued "3
> Qr"
> Sep and Oct 1864 - listed as present on the company muster
> roll
> Nov and Dec 1864 - listed as present on the company muster
> roll
> Jan and Feb 1865 - listed as present on the company muster
> roll
> 09 Apr 1865 - Listed as a POW at the surrender at
> Appomattox Coutyhouse, VA
> 
> Wiley's medical card number was 52045712
> 
> Would you list these a separate military events or make one
> event and list all of this in the notes???
> 
> michele 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I just tested the way the marriage tags work now, and the change I asked for in 
2004 is not there yet. How I tested. Tagged Individual 1 and Marriage 9, then 
Searched for them. It found the correct 2 people, and when I untagged the M9, 
it found correctly the sets of M9 off and on, but what I had wanted originally, 
and still want, is for the screen to show only the actual couple on the 
Marriage list, in the same way the Individual search list, shows only the 
desired names. The marriage list NEVER can be trimmed to less that ALL 
marriages on the list.
Example: One idea I wanted to see was exactly only the marriages in a 'tag 
list'. The program also needs 2 more fieldsadded to the crowded screen. The 
ones there already are sort in MRIN, male and female name alpha order, and the 
needed extras are male Rin and female Rin number sorts. 
All I want is for Legacy to, while using the Marriage List screen, showing only 
tagged on the marriage tag, instead of the full list. With almost 9000 couples, 
I NEED a tool for a partial list. 
Is this in any way what some of you were asking for?
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:10 AM
> 
> Richard,
>  
> (I know - wrong Ron!) It works OK for me. Go to Family View
> and click the arrow next to Marriage Tag 1 (make sure it is
> set to 1) and it moves through the list one at a time.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:53:33 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is
> good for?
> > From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >
> > Hi Ron,
> >
> > I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100
> marriages which have
> > one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't
> focus on just
> > those marriages.
> >
> > Can you explain "the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom
> right to look at
> > each of the tagged Marriages"?
> > I'm not sure what you're seeing.
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Richard Van Wasshnova
> > http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> > http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
> > 
> >> You can manually set those tags in Legacy and
> then
> >> use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to
> look at each of the tagged
> >> marriages.
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> Summary: Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool
> and should be
> >> developed. Millennia needs to add to the "Advanced
> Tagging" the option to
> >> tag the marriages. Most of the other tools are
> already present to use those
> >> tags in searches, etc.
> >>
> >> Ron Taylor
> >>
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Greetings

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

The best way I have found is using the 'search' tab with the 'microscope' icon 
(use Detailed Search tab). Choose Individual; Notes, Burial; contains; the 
letter 'a' or 'e', with no ' '. This should find at least 99% of the examples. 
Then tag each, and once 'fixed' remove the tag.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 9/6/09, Dennis M. Kowallek  wrote:

> From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Greetings
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 6:06 PM
> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:36:08 -0400,
> Lester Davis 
> wrote:
> 
> >and better yet is there a way to remove ALL of the
> burial notes?
> 
> I don't know of a way to do it in Legacy. But you can
> easily do it using
> MS Access or another tool.
> 
>     UPDATE tblIR SET tblIR.BuriedNote = ""
>  
> -- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you source this?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I would create a source, using 'artifact', meaning the manila folder, named 
Pascagoula MS Library File Folder Contents. That tells that the individual 
parts have noknown sources, (yet). 
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Michele Lewis  wrote:

> From: Michele Lewis 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] How would you source this?
> To: "Legacy E-Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:11 AM
> The Pascagoula MS Library copied a
> genealogy file they had on the Lyons family (everything that
> was contained in the file folder).  It is a collection
> of a hodge podge of things that has been gathered over the
> last 50 years.  Many of the pages are just misc
> information with no additional sources added.  For
> example, there are Bible pages but no info on the Bible
> itself or who it belonged to and pages copied out of unknown
> books that have pertinent info on them.
> 
> I don't want to source each individual page in this file
> but rather the entire file as a whole.  How do you
> think I should do this?
> 
> michele 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

One advantage is that if you want a report of 'everyone' in Parish A's BMD 
lists, which would show a worksheet I have used, that 'pointed out', the folks 
who were missing for one of them. My parish records also have confirmation 
lists, move in and out lists, vaccination lists, and a type of census list. 
Another advantage using this format, in the list it will include the 'details' 
for each person, helping me observe people that I might have missed on a page 
with other family members. I also print lists of all in an area for a census, 
each detail as a transcript of the record.
I have found that splitting up census by year AND state asists in finding 
hidden patterns.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, michael barberi  wrote:

> From: michael barberi 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 6:45 PM
> Ward:
> 
> I can totally understand your reasoning.  However my
> date range is 1579-1900, so I assume your suggestion is to
> break up the time periods.  If I follow your
> suggestion, I would only have about 50 Master Sources
> consisting of 4 specific Centuries of Civil Birth, Marriage
> and Death Records, Church Baptism, Marriage and Death
> Records, Notary Records, plus NY Passenger Records, Military
> Records, Naturalization Records, US Census Records, City
> directories, Cemetery Records, etc. 
> 
> At the moment, I am creating a source for each
> individual's event (e.g. birth).  I name the
> source, type in the name and detail, include a picture of
> the document (when I have it), and save it.  
> 
> I think your suggestion is the better way forward. 
> However, please educate
>  me.  What are the advantages of having a 50 Master
> Sources and thousands of citations associated with the
> Master Sources VERSUS having thousands of Specific Sources
> with their associated details.   I still end up with
> the same number of source citations.  Is there an
> advantage to better organization?  
> 
> Mike
>  In necessariis
> unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> 
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all
> things love. 
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
> 
> From:
> Ward Walker
>  
> To:
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, September 3, 2009 6:07:54 PM
> Subject: Re:
> [LegacyUG] Master source question
> 
>  #yiv336077800 DIV
> {MARGIN:0px;}   MIke,   To me, the master source is the microfilm (or book,
>  if you were there) of birth records for that
> comune that covers a date  range, say 1880-1910, or
> whatever. Then each citation (source detail) indicates  the
> individual's name, the exact year, and the item
> number within that  year.      Ward 
>   -
> Original Message -From:
>michael
> barberiTo:
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>   Sent:
> Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:42PM   Subject:
> Re: [LegacyUG] Master sourcequestion   
>Iam always reluctant,
> perhaps based on ignorance, to use the same Master Source   
> for each individual.  I always like to guard against an
> inadvertentcomputer error, that might corrupt or mix up
> the source detail of individualsthat are associated with
> one Master Source.  I may not be following an   
> intelligent sourcing method but each Source to me is
> different. Somethings it is just a year as in
> "The Civil Birth Records 1888 of CerretoSannita,
> Italy" (different years make for a different source;
> although I cansee why this may not be correct).  I
> am open to education.  If I amnot following the
> method that everyone else uses, or if my concerns over   
> potential problems are over-done,  let me know.
> 
> Mike Barberi
> In
>  necessariis unitas, in dubiislibertas, in omnibus
> autem caritas. 
> In essentials unity, indoubtful things liberty, but in
> all things love. 
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 -430)   
>
> 
> From: John S.
> Adams
> To:   
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc:
> jusen...@gmail.com
> Sent:
> Thursday, September 3, 2009 4:05:53PM
> Subject: Re:
> [LegacyUG]Master source question
> 
> Judy,
> The Master Source should be thesame for each
>  individual.  The differences should be entered in the
>Detail screen.  After you create the Master Source
> with the commoninformation for the letter, select that
> for as the source for the firstindividual and enter the
> text for him in the Source Detail screen.  Forthe
> next individual, select the same source, but change the
> Detail text. Thus, for each individual, the Master
> Source info will be the same, but theDetail text will be
> different.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> John S.Adams
> Hermosa Beach,CA
> 
> --
> From: "Judy"
> Sent:Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:21 PM
> To: 
> Subject:[LegacyUG] Master source question
> 
> > I have a qu

Re: [LegacyUG] SSDI

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

What I did years ago, and have not needed to change, I put the year SSI was 
created for everyone who was (probably) working then, and added 16 years to the 
birthyear for those born afterwards, as guesses. I am not buying all those 
records for 2nd cousins, etc., either.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Kirstin  wrote:

> From: Kirstin 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] SSDI
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:35 PM
> I have a question I haven't been able
> to find an answer to. I am recording information from the
> SSDI. Since it includes the SS# & place issued, I enter
> those in the event (could really figure out what date meant,
> since there is no information as to when the SS# was issued
> on the SSDI web site (unless you order the actual info,
> which I would only do for direct relatives). Then I go into
> the source. I use the master source SSDI, with the
> repository (web page). When I get to the detail, I like to
> enter the rest of the info from the web site. It would be
> nice to have a template either as part of the event or part
> of the source detail where I could just enter the DOB, DOD,
> etc, & not have to keep re-entering the headings. I
> can't see any way to do this with either the event or the
> detail. Any ideas?
> 
> Kirstin
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't Recover Functionality from Crash

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I just fixed my photos file of 30 years of scanned copies, which contains a few 
thousand pictures. From the old Windows 3.0 files, with the file name 
requirement less than nine characters, and the modern size with different 
rules. What I needed to do was switch to an external drive because no room on 
the laptop. The Legacy program on C: and data on E: I created my 
E:/photos/pictures/* then in the * I made subfiles docs, graves, 9 photos files 
- numbered photo100 to photo900, US Census, Swedish Census, then under the both 
Census sorted by years, and other organizing tools. 
I recommend doing the same. Once you have done the task the upkeep will save 
all the time spent looking for where stuff is 'hiding'.
I will help off list if desired.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Jimquist  wrote:

> From: Jimquist 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't Recover Functionality from Crash
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:17 AM
> To "gather up" all of your Legacy
> pictures scattered around the hard drive, do a multimedia
> backup.  Then *restore* from your, and when given the
> opportunity to designate Where you want the files copied to
> - specify the folder of your desire.
> I restored all of mine to C:\Legacy\Pictures\ and it worked
> just fine. Getting them separated into various subfolders
> within the \Pictures\ folder would be another matter ;-)
> jim
> 
> - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:05 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Can't Recover Functionality from
> Crash
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:51:10 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't Recover Functionality
> from Crash
> > From: m...@cmy.org.uk
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > 
> > 2009/8/31 Boyd Miller advised
> >> 
> >> Make sure your data is not under C:/Legacy/Data
> folder. If it is, copy the
> >> data and pictures etc to somewhere else, and don't
> put them back in the
> >> C:/Legacy/Data folder when you get the program
> running again. (General
> >> principal is to always keep data separate from the
> program files.)
> > 
> > I've never had a problem with Data and Pictures being
> in the Legacy
> > folder. Why change Legacy default locations, it just
> introduces
> > another complication.
> > 
> > Mary Young
> > 
> 
> Indeed it does, Mary.
> 
> I have mine in My Documents, but wish I had put them in
> C:\Legacy\Pictures\ when I started out. It is now too late
> and I have too many images to make the change without a lot
> of hassle. Instead I have the hassle if I wish to install on
> another machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> _
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Your question caused me to discover this whole 'hidden' part. By searching 
around, I found my 'individual tab' had a * and 26 photos. Next I moved to 
'all pictures' which showed 31 photos and a *. With furthur exploring found 
that all the tabs seemed to be tied to my Events, and since I have about 10 
residences, half with no photo attached, the pattern was discovered. I just 
switched to one of my 'private' tabs, then turned off Legacy and rebooted 
Legacy. When I went to my Gallery it had reset itself to Individual. IMHO, the 
program should default to 'All pictures' if anything. This is something that 
happened with the new update, since in the recent past, when I went in that 
gallery, I never noticed less than the 31. 
This is a 'bug?' from the most recent update 7.0.0.107, 20 Aug 2009.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> From: Jenny M Benson 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:38 AM
> Susan Perrett wrote
> > Does anyone know if the default can be changed/saved
> in the Picture Gallery, for anyone with multiple photos, so
> that the option on the right hand side selection, which
> always shows Individual can the default be saved to show as
> for ALL PICTURES?
> 
> I don't think you can do that.
> 
> Unless someone else pops up to say that you can, it might
> something to suggest as a new feature.  I can certainly
> see that as a benefit.
> -- Jenny M Benson
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Importing Obituaries into Legacy from GED

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

If you have the book, see p 247. If not, what you need to do, (you may choose 
not), is to start over on the Gedcom. 
"Unrecognized items. Any tags that are not recognized by Legacy during the 
analysis pass are placed inthe 'Unrecognized Items' box." When I did it (years 
ago), this tool showed all the unrecognized items on a menu showing my list on 
left and all the choices you can match up with on the right. This, for me, was 
mostly in my Event titles. 
The disadvantage for you, is anything added to the database since gedcom will 
be lost in the re-gedcoming. When I did it orginally, I had to do it three 
times before I got it perfect.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Mike Fry  wrote:

> From: Mike Fry 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Importing Obituaries into Legacy from GED
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 8:47 AM
> Heidi J. Schmelzer wrote:
> 
> > My problem is that they are not being imported into
> Legacy. OBIT does not show up in the import list and it
> doesn't show up in the unrecognized list either. As far as I
> can tell, the data is not being imported anywhere.
> > 
> > What can I do to bring this data into Legacy?
> 
> From what I can determine from the GEDCOM 5.5 Standard,
> OBIT is *not* a valid tag. Legacy won't recognise it. As you
> say, it doesn't even show up in the 'Unrecognised items'
> list when importing. However, changing the tag to _OBIT_
> *does* get Legacy to see the tag as 'Unrecognised'.
> 
> -- Best regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] changed to Gedcom history/future

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Gedcom does not belong to LDS, nor anyone else. It was created by a committee 
of interested parties, of which LDS was represented. What needs to happen is to 
create a new committee, containing all (or most) of the major program writers, 
database companies, descendant societies; if not actully participating, but 
giving tacit approval in abstentia. Then it would take at least a year. Don't 
hold your breath.
ich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Chick Lewis  wrote:

> From: Chick Lewis 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] combining/replacing sources
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 2:53 PM
> OK, I'm confused.  I realize the
> GEDCOM standard is old, but it is
> still the only method available for transferring data
> between
> programs.  If the new SourceWriter data and ESM's
> templates do not
> transfer well by gedcom, what is the alternative? Should we
> stop using
> SW until a new gedcom standard is developed?  That may
> never happen
> because as far as I know, LDS has no plans to update the
> gedcom.
> Chick Lewis




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Re: [LegacyUG] combining/replacing sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I am not ready to mass change yet, but have done a few of the most used ones. 
My plan is to go to the Basic Master Source List page, pick Show list and tag 
on an unused number. Next Search on that tag #. For that person found, find 
where the source is used, copy the 'details', then add the Source Writer to the 
same 'slot', pasting the details in.  Then delete the Basic Source for that 
instance. It may appear in multiple 'slots', by your prior plan. There may be 
'better' ways to do this, but I will go slow and steady.
Then when the Basic Source, when using show list, finds no one, THEN delete the 
source.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sat, 8/22/09, Tony Pearce  wrote:

> From: Tony Pearce 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] combining/replacing sources
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 7:27 PM
> approx half of my sources were
> entered using the old system and the rest have been entered
> using SourceWriter. I am about to start re-entering the old
> ones using SourceWriter and am looking for a reliable way to
> combine the sources so that all of the existing citation
> links remain. The"combine sources" function described in the
> help file doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?
> Tony
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Only Designated Subsets

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

And, when I use merge I am shown the 'are these people the same' with obvious 
(to me) different people being presented as possibles, I always choose the 
'never' choice. Then they are never presented together again. Some I do not 
choose the option for, because I am not 100% sure, so next time it comes up 
again. My titles are off, since my book is not with the laptop at the moment. 
Hope you can translate what I said.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sat, 8/22/09, Carl Cox  wrote:

> From: Carl Cox 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Only Designated Subsets
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 7:03 PM
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> < database to which, from time 
> to time, I want to import and merge smaller databases. When
> I do this, I would 
> like the merge feature to consider only potential merges
> with the newly added 
> RINs. >>
>  
> Legacy is great on this
> type of merge. Just do a 
> manual merge on a person of your choice, one that is in the
> center of the 
> people. If the new ones are all connected, then Legacy will
> look around each 
> merge and find spouses, children, and parents that need to
> be merged. It will 
> also suggest merging automatically, which I have
> found to be very 
> nice. If you have unconnected people in the import, Legacy
> will not find them, 
> but will get nearly every imported person needing
> merging.
>  
> -- 
> 
> Carl    ct...@getgoin.net
> 
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