Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 connecting to Family Search

[Debby Flood]

I finally decided to reset all my passwords and now it works.  Thanks for
your help.

Debby

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:

> On 20-Apr-17 04:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen a problem with the Legacy FamilySearch module.
>>
>
> I am having a small problem there, which existed (but I don't know for how
> long) before I upgraded from 8 to 9.
>
> It works fine for people who are already linked to FS or for people for
> whom there is a match in FS but if I add my Legacy person to FS no data at
> all appears on any of the Legacy FS tabs - although the arrows indicating
> the person is matched do appear in the left-hand pane - until I click on "I
> am finished sharing data."
>
> I haven't used Legacy FS much for a few months, but noticed this behaviour
> when I added someone using Legacy 8 a couple of weeks ago. Same thing when
> I added someone from Legacy 9 this morning.
>
> It's possibly some quirk of my particular set up - I can live with it.
> When I get a chance I will try using my laptop.
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Templates not as US biased as imagined

[Tessa Keough]

Agree that the sourcewriter templates are useful and you can set up your
own master sources - I have done this extensively for Swedish and Norwegian
records as well as Irish and Newfoundland records. I use the template and
make use of Evidence Explained for the parts I need to include. The thing I
love about Legacy is that you can find a template for fit with the types of
records you are using.

Tessa

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:42 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Pete,
>
> SourceWriter Templates are not focussed on "sites" but on Source types.
> I use it successfully for UK and Australian sources.
>
> It helps when there is a specific template for a particular source like
> the 1841 UK Census but it's not necessary.
>
> What is US biased in the templates is the way the location fields are
> labelled. But you can use them as you like and they don't all have to be
> filled in for the Template to work.
>
> The Land and Property records are probably the most US biased but that may
> be because I haven't worked with land records much and don't understand the
> various terms sufficiently.
>
> But a Birth/Death record or Church record or Directory or Diary or Email
> or Internet Database or ... template can be found easily and used
> regardless of which country it was created in.
>
> Which specific Irish sources are you having trouble sourcing? I don't have
> Irish research. I guess it might be helpful to have a specific template for
> the "Griffiths Valuation" if I'm remembering the title right. But hasn't
> there been a flood of Church Records made available recently? and the
> Church record templates work for anywhere.
>
> Preparing for a User Group tomorrow where I'll be focussing on finding the
> right SourceWriter Template and I won't have a US example among my examples
> as I have so little US research and my group doesn't either.
>
> Cathy
>
> Pete wrote:
>
> While this thread is about Hints, I have a slightly different, but
> relevant observation.
>
>  My family has been in the US since 1880.  My research extends into
> Ireland, where I have conducted extensive onsite research  However, when I
> attempt use a source (SourceWriter), there are no templates for major sites
> in Ireland.  Discussions with Legacy resulted in the statement “SourceWriter
> templates are mostly geared for US sources”.
>
>  I have requested that Legacy add the source templates for Ireland.  They
> have taken the request and placed it into the program bucket with a
> suggested “High” priority. Without Legacy supporting the major archives, we
> must “Hack” out way into recording data properly.
>
>  My experience with this thread,  suggests that Legacy may have a major
> issue in supporting “foreign”/(non US) sites and data.
>
>  Pete
>
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[LegacyUG] SourceWriter Templates not as US biased as imagined

[Cathy Pinner]

Pete,
  

SourceWriter Templates are not focussed on "sites" but on Source types.

I use it successfully for UK and Australian sources.

  

It helps when there is a specific template for a particular source like 
the 1841 UK Census but it's not necessary.

  

What is US biased in the templates is the way the location fields are 
labelled. But you can use them as you like and they don't all have to be
 filled in for the Template to work.

  

The Land and Property records are probably the most US biased but that 
may be because I haven't worked with land records much and don't 
understand the various terms sufficiently.

  

But a Birth/Death record or Church record or Directory or Diary or Email
 or Internet Database or ... 
template can be found easily and used regardless of which country it was
 created in.

  

Which specific Irish sources are you having trouble sourcing? I don't 
have Irish research. I guess it might be helpful to have a specific 
template for the "Griffiths Valuation" if I'm remembering the title 
right. But hasn't there been a flood of Church Records made available 
recently? and the Church record templates work for anywhere.

  
Preparing for a User Group tomorrow where I'll be focussing on finding 
the right SourceWriter Template and I won't have a US example among my 
examples as I have so little US research and my group doesn't either.
  

Cathy
  
Pete wrote:
  
While
 this thread is about Hints, I have a slightly different, but relevant 
observation.  
 My

 family has been in the US since 1880.  My research extends into 
Ireland, where I have conducted extensive onsite research  However, when
 I attempt use a source (SourceWriter), there are no templates for major
 sites in Ireland.  Discussions with Legacy resulted in the statement “SourceWriter
 templates are mostly geared for US sources”. 
 I
 have requested that Legacy add the source templates for Ireland.  They 
have taken the request and placed it into the program bucket with a 
suggested “High” priority. Without Legacy supporting the major archives,
 we must “Hack” out way into recording data properly.
 My
 experience with this thread,  suggests that Legacy may have a major 
issue in supporting “foreign”/(non US) sites and data.  
 Pete
  
  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Shirley Crampton]

Go to the Options button, click on customize, go to 8.13 and when you get
there, there is a button for Options or something like that.  Click on it,
scroll down to the bottom and there is a button to click to delete the
hints icon when you have reviewed all of them.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Ian Beach  wrote:

> Hi
>
> As this discussion seems to have off the original topic that I posted, I
> reiterate points 2 and 3 (particularly point 3)
>
> 2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all
> my
> entries are UK based.
>
> 3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
> quantity
> doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
> reappeared.
>
> Ian Beach
> College Grove, Western Australia
>
> On 21/04/17 10:25 PM, Philip Solida wrote:
> > This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any
> remaining
> > need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family search by
> tree
> > owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth folks... we
> need
> > to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of genealogical
> societies
> > ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can do, so why hold on
> to it
> > after the recent problems... They will have to come out with something
> truely
> > compete and new features for me to consider upgrading Family tree 2014...
> >
> > On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  > > wrote:
> >
> > I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints
> which
> > include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> > choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is
> automatically
> > added to your file along with the source but except for some
> FamilySearch
> > images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the
> images
> > by the provider I was able to download and attach source images
> obtained
> > via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
> >
> > Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England
> and
> > Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and
> marriage
> > registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> > baptism, marriage and death details.
> >
> > Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes
> which
> > have no image.
> >
> > Brian Kelly
> >
> > On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
> >
> > The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a
> competitive
> > hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one
> of ancestry
> > '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple
> hinting
> > sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been
> attached
> > images
> > of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy.
> That
> > ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to
> search or
> > expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to
> document
> > beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source
> document... so true
> > competition will need to include those features at some point in
> the
> > national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it
> is
> > far and
> > away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.
> The
> > ability
> > to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary
> as opposed
> > to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's
> undocumented
> > guess on
> > their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the
> information in
> > a hint.
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Shirley Crampton]

When I add a document that proves the parent-child relationship I add that
to the child's screen and use the document as the source.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:24 PM, BARTON LEWIS 
wrote:

> Good to know, thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:08 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:
>
> If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you can
>> assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child relationships.
>>
>> I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of the
>> associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution which
>> require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war participant needs to
>> assign sources to those fields because those societies are very interested
>> in what documents were used to confirm the descent.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
>> On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>>
>>> Diane,
>>> I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both
>>> parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the
>>> only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing
>>> it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which
>>> is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the
>>> transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
>>> relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
>>> sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
>>> leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
>>> having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
>>> space in reports, etc.
>>> Barton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:
>>>
>>> Barton;
>>> It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
>>> relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
>>> routinely.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>>> On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
>>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
>>> To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question
>>>
>>> hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the
>>> name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a
>>> source for those relationships).
>>> Barton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
>>> Barton;
>>>
>>> You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Barton
>>> Lewis
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
>>> To: 'Legacy User Group'
>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Ian Beach]

Hi

As this discussion seems to have off the original topic that I posted, I 
reiterate points 2 and 3 (particularly point 3)

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have reappeared.

Ian Beach
College Grove, Western Australia

On 21/04/17 10:25 PM, Philip Solida wrote:
> This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any remaining 
> need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family search by tree 
> owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth folks... we need 
> to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of genealogical societies 
> ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can do, so why hold on to it 
> after the recent problems... They will have to come out with something truely 
> compete and new features for me to consider upgrading Family tree 2014...
>
> On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  > wrote:
>
> I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints which
> include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is automatically
> added to your file along with the source but except for some FamilySearch
> images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the images
> by the provider I was able to download and attach source images obtained
> via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
>
> Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England and
> Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and marriage
> registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> baptism, marriage and death details.
>
> Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes which
> have no image.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
>
> The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a 
> competitive
> hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of 
> ancestry
> '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
> sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached
> images
> of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
> ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
> expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to 
> document
> beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so 
> true
> competition will need to include those features at some point in the
> national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is
> far and
> away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The
> ability
> to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as 
> opposed
> to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented
> guess on
> their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the 
> information in
> a hint.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] USA County Verification

[Michele/Support]

I thought I answered this but I guess it didn't go through. When someone
writes in and asks me to check a date I use a variety of things, Ani-Map,
FamilySearch Wiki, Redbook, Handybook and official county websites.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Harvey Wier  wrote:
What source does Legacy use to validate county verification dates?


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Re: [LegacyUG] USA County Verification

[Sherry]

I worked on the generation of the USA County Verifier and can attest that
several sources were used, primarily Handybook and Kane's "American
Counties" (particularly for "ghost counties" which no longer exist) along
with various websites. When the spelling for a county was in conflict
(LaSalle vs La Salle), I used the official spelling as found on the county
web page or state archives. There were even times when I contacted county
officials to confirm that the spelling was correct.

Sherry


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Harvey Wier  wrote:

> What source does Legacy use to validate county verification dates?
>
> Thx
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

Good to know, thanks.


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:08 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:

If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you 
can assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child 
relationships.


I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of 
the associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution 
which require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war 
participant needs to assign sources to those fields because those 
societies are very interested in what documents were used to confirm 
the descent.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

Diane,
I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and 
both
parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of 
the
only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for 
doing
it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch 
which
is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without 
the

transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
space in reports, etc.
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
routinely.

Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]

On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in 
the
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as 
a

source for those relationships).
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
Barton;

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent 
relationships.


Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
 ] On Behalf Of Barton
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'


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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Brian Kelly]

If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you can 
assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child relationships.


I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of 
the associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution which 
require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war participant needs 
to assign sources to those fields because those societies are very 
interested in what documents were used to confirm the descent.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

Diane,
I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both
parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the
only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing
it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which
is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the
transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
space in reports, etc.
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
routinely.

Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a
source for those relationships).
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
Barton;

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.

Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
 ] On Behalf Of Barton
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'  >
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question


As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Barton






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Re: [LegacyUG] USA County Verification

[Brian Kelly]

I believe the dates are taken from a variety of sources. I do know the 
person who maintained the county lists when I worked for Millennia used 
official records wherever possible; like official state county history 
records, county web sites etc.


Neither she nor I work for Millennia any more so I cannot comment on 
current practice.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 1:23 PM, Harvey Wier wrote:

What source does Legacy use to validate county verification dates?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another problem with v9 Hints

[Shirley Crampton]

I agree with Phillip and Brian.  Even though I do not have a MyHeritage
subscription I have been amazed at the amount of detail that is included in
the hint.  I advise looking at their hints.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> Those companies also provide a service by building databases to index all
> those records for searching and operate the servers that host the service.
> None of that comes cheap and there are only two sources of revenue, host
> advertisements and get paid by the advertisers or charge the users who want
> to access the data. Free accounts, if they provide them, are probably there
> to entice a user with data in the hope they will eventually realize they
> need a paid account to get "All" the goodies.
>
> As you say we are paying for convenience by supporting those who make the
> records available to us from the comfort of our homes via the internet.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 21-Apr-17 10:50 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
>
>> Key here is unique... therefore exclusive... therefore I can charge you to
>> access records... my own little cash cow... while the records may be
>> public
>> u less you want to drive or fly all over creation there is also the ease
>> of
>> access factor... the things we pay for...
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] USA County Verification

[Michele/Support]

When I check a date (someone writes in questioning a date) I use a variety
of sources, Ani-Map, FamilySearch Wiki, RedBook, HandyBook etc.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
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What source does Legacy use to validate county verification dates?

Thx


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[LegacyUG] USA County Verification

[Harvey Wier]

What source does Legacy use to validate county verification dates?

Thx


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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

Diane,
I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both 
parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the 
only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing 
it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which 
is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the 
transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every 
relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the 
sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of 
leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or 
having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed 
space in reports, etc.

Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father 
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do 
routinely.

 
Diane
 
 
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question
 
hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the 
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a 
source for those relationships).

Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
Barton;
 
You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
 
Diane
 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Barton 
Lewis

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'  >

Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 
As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a 
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book 
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my 
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject 
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts 
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these 
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census 
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always 
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the 
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually 
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best 
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

 
Thanks,
 
Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Diane]

Barton;

It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father 
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do routinely.

 

Diane

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the name 
field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a source for 
those relationships).

Barton




On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;

 

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.

 

Diane

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Barton Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'  >
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a 
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book published 
in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my ancestor’s family and 
that of his parents, presumably from the subject who was 44 years old at the 
time.  The names of his siblings and aunts and uncles and all their spouses are 
included.  As a source for these names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; 
I usually put census entries into the birth field, since date and place of 
birth are always identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included 
in the sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually 
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best sense.  
Any thought would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Barton


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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[Bob Austen]

I agree with Joseph.  I use the workaround, and it is only needed when first
opening the file.  However, it is still 'irksome'.

Bob Austen

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Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:11 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

There are two know issues when you first open a file, both are recorded 
in the problem tracking system.

1. Tag contents do not show

2. There is no highlight bar colour on the currently active person.

Both problems have existed since Legacy 8.0 so they are not new to 
Legacy 9.0

PS: After file maintenance is the same as first opening a file. File 
maintenance closed the file to perform the checks and is now opening it 
again.

Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 10:52 AM, JV Leavitt wrote:
> Tagging works fine -- it's just that records with tags don't show any
> tags when you first open a file, or after running File Maintenance. I
> see the same irksome problem when I use other computers, so I wouldn't
> expect that I am the only one experiencing this.
>
> Joseph Leavitt


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Re: [LegacyUG] Another problem with v9 Hints

[Brian Kelly]

Those companies also provide a service by building databases to index 
all those records for searching and operate the servers that host the 
service. None of that comes cheap and there are only two sources of 
revenue, host advertisements and get paid by the advertisers or charge 
the users who want to access the data. Free accounts, if they provide 
them, are probably there to entice a user with data in the hope they 
will eventually realize they need a paid account to get "All" the goodies.


As you say we are paying for convenience by supporting those who make 
the records available to us from the comfort of our homes via the internet.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 10:50 AM, Philip Solida wrote:

Key here is unique... therefore exclusive... therefore I can charge you to
access records... my own little cash cow... while the records may be public
u less you want to drive or fly all over creation there is also the ease of
access factor... the things we pay for...



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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the 
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a 
source for those relationships).

Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
 
You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
 
Diane
 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Barton Lewis

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 
As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a 
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book 
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my 
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject 
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts 
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these 
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census 
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always 
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the 
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually 
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best 
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

 
Thanks,
 
Barton
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Diane]

Barton;

 

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.

 

Diane

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Barton Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor's brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my ancestor's
family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject who was 44 years
old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts and uncles and all
their spouses are included.  As a source for these names, I'm wondering
where to best enter them; I usually put census entries into the birth field,
since date and place of birth are always identified (usually).  Since date
and place are not included in the sketch, should the source be added to the
person's name?  I usually don't input sources into the name field but this
seems to make the best sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

This sounds like sound advice.  Thank you.  I have not upgraded to 
Legacy 9 yet - a bit nervous as I some have described problems but the 
consensus seems to be that it's fine.  So I'll go ahead and do it and 
check out the Stories feature. 


Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:17 AM, Brian Kelly wrote:


I see two things here:

1. The article/excerpt itself seems like it was tailor-made for the 
new Stories feature in Legacy 9.0. I would enter the entire sketch and 
use the Texas history book as the source. You can then share that 
story with all the other family members mentioned if you wish.


2. If the article mentions new people (or new information about 
existing ones) then I would enter/add the data and use the article as 
the source for the data. For example, if the article has a date that 
you were missing then it is the source for that new date. If it 
mentions a new person then it is the source for all the data you enter 
from that article about that person.


Brian Kelly

On 20-Apr-17 10:44 PM, Barton Lewis wrote:

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the 
subject
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and 
aunts

and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are 
always

identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the 
best

sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Barton



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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[Brian Kelly]

There are two know issues when you first open a file, both are recorded 
in the problem tracking system.


1. Tag contents do not show

2. There is no highlight bar colour on the currently active person.

Both problems have existed since Legacy 8.0 so they are not new to 
Legacy 9.0


PS: After file maintenance is the same as first opening a file. File 
maintenance closed the file to perform the checks and is now opening it 
again.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 10:52 AM, JV Leavitt wrote:

Tagging works fine -- it's just that records with tags don't show any
tags when you first open a file, or after running File Maintenance. I
see the same irksome problem when I use other computers, so I wouldn't
expect that I am the only one experiencing this.

Joseph Leavitt



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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[JV Leavitt]

Yes, I figured that-- I don't know why it seems so very irksome, except 
that I'm often opening and closing a file, or running file maintenance, 
and I can't do a thing until I see the tags.


Thank you for your kind response.

Joseph Leavitt


On 4/21/2017 7:56 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Yes Joseph,
That's a known problem with an easy workaround which is why it hasn't 
had priority. You just have to shift person and they're back.


Cathy

JV Leavitt wrote:


Tagging works fine -- it's just that records with tags don't show any
tags when you first open a file, or after running File Maintenance. I
see the same irksome problem when I use other computers, so I wouldn't
expect that I am the only one experiencing this.

Joseph Leavitt


On 4/21/2017 7:39 AM, Sherry wrote:


Tagging is one thing that was changed in v9. Go to Options >
Customize 1.6 to enable tagging.

Sherry

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM, JV Leavitt > wrote:

With version 9, a Legacy file opens the sa me way it did in version
8, without displaying individual tags! Is it such a small thing --
to expect the program to open all the way? Does this not bother
anyone else? :-)

Joseph Leavitt












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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[Cathy Pinner]

Yes Joseph,
That's a known problem with an easy workaround which is why it hasn't 
had priority. You just have to shift person and they're back.


Cathy

JV Leavitt wrote:


Tagging works fine -- it's just that records with tags don't show any
tags when you first open a file, or after running File Maintenance. I
see the same irksome problem when I use other computers, so I wouldn't
expect that I am the only one experiencing this.

Joseph Leavitt


On 4/21/2017 7:39 AM, Sherry wrote:


Tagging is one thing that was changed in v9. Go to Options >
Customize 1.6 to enable tagging.

Sherry

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM, JV Leavitt > wrote:

With version 9, a Legacy file opens the same way it did in version
8, without displaying individual tags! Is it such a small thing --
to expect the program to open all the way? Does this not bother
anyone else? :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[JV Leavitt]

Tagging works fine -- it's just that records with tags don't show any 
tags when you first open a file, or after running File Maintenance. I 
see the same irksome problem when I use other computers, so I wouldn't 
expect that I am the only one experiencing this.


Joseph Leavitt


On 4/21/2017 7:39 AM, Sherry wrote:
Tagging is one thing that was changed in v9. Go to Options > Customize 
1.6 to enable tagging.


Sherry

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM, JV Leavitt > wrote:


With version 9, a Legacy file opens the same way it did in version
8, without displaying individual tags! Is it such a small thing --
to expect the program to open all the way? Does this not bother
anyone else? :-)

Joseph Leavitt







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Re: [LegacyUG] Another problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

Key here is unique... therefore exclusive... therefore I can charge you to
access records... my own little cash cow... while the records may be public
u less you want to drive or fly all over creation there is also the ease of
access factor... the things we pay for...

On Apr 21, 2017 10:39 AM, "Chris Hill"  wrote:

> Hi
>
>
>
> The use of Hints to point you at other websites can be
> useful, BUT most of them, apart from FamilySearch, will expect you to have
> a paid account on them if you need to get to the full detail.
>
>
>
> Very annoying that, apart from some common records, they will have a set
> of records that are unique to them which they want to charge for, either
> because they have accessed the raw data or because their other users have
> inserted their own trees as non-public.
>
>
>
> I currently pay for Ancestry (£180, worldwide), FindMyPast
> (£90, UK only), Genealogist (£100, Premium), Genes Reunited (£9) and
> Geneanet (£32) – so that is £411 per year. Do I now need to add MyHeritage
> and any of the other genealogy web sites that Legacy will find to that
> list?
>
>
>
> Not a problem for me, personally, but this multiple set of websites can be
> an issue for some users and there should be some pressure put on them to
> enable users to get a reduced cost against multiple sites.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Chris
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

Thanks, Cathy.  Both you and Jenny have asked me why I don't source 
names.  I should clarify.  The censuses form the foundation for 
identifying the composition of families (for me), and provide one of the 
most important vitals - a person's place and date of birth.  I enter the 
census data in the birth field for an individual and that record 
contains (for most censuses after 1870) their relationship to HOH.  I 
feel that it would be duplicative to add that same record to the name 
field.  It would also significantly add to the notes at the end of a 
report, for example, and since I transcribe each and every census entry 
and include it with my citation, I prefer not to have those entries 
appearing multiple times. 
If other data in addition to the name is being given then I tend to add 
the source for that data - and not additionally to the name.  However, 
when a record proves a name and there is no other confirmatory evidence 
for it, I'll add that record to the name field.  E.g. if a deceased 
person's mother is listed in their death certificate, and that's the 
only source for her maiden name, I'll enter that source in the name 
field for the mother.  (Death certificates, of course, present their own 
problems.)  A deed which states someone is giving land to "my beloved 
son" would be a source for the person's name (name field).  I may or may 
not add that if other sources (e.g. censuses) existed for that person 
which identified their relationship to their parent, but I would 
definitely add it if there were no other confirmatory evidence of their 
relationship.  I welcome your thoughts on this approach.

Barton

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:


You don't source Names?

How do you know where you found the name or the name variants?



Yes if it only has the name, then you add the source to the name.

If it had name and birth date, I'd add it to both name and birth date.



The only exceptions for me is if I have a number of better sources for 
the Name already.




Cathy



Barton Lewis wrote:



As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a

biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book

published in 1893. It contains a trove of information about my

ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject

who was 44 years old at the time. The names of his siblings and aunts

and uncles and all their spouses are included. As a source for these

names, I’m wondering where to
best enter them; I usually put census

entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always

identified (usually). Since date and place are not included in the

sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name? I usually

don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the

best sense. Any thought would be appreciated.



Thanks,



Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[Sherry]

Tagging is one thing that was changed in v9. Go to Options > Customize 1.6
to enable tagging.

Sherry

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM, JV Leavitt  wrote:

> With version 9, a Legacy file opens the same way it did in version 8,
> without displaying individual tags! Is it such a small thing -- to expect
> the program to open all the way? Does this not bother anyone else? :-)
>
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[LegacyUG] Another problem with v9 Hints

[Chris Hill]

Hi

 

The use of Hints to point you at other websites can be
useful, BUT most of them, apart from FamilySearch, will expect you to have a
paid account on them if you need to get to the full detail. 

 

Very annoying that, apart from some common records, they will have a set of
records that are unique to them which they want to charge for, either
because they have accessed the raw data or because their other users have
inserted their own trees as non-public.

 

I currently pay for Ancestry (£180, worldwide), FindMyPast
(£90, UK only), Genealogist (£100, Premium), Genes Reunited (£9) and
Geneanet (£32) – so that is £411 per year. Do I now need to add MyHeritage
and any of the other genealogy web sites that Legacy will find to that list?


 

Not a problem for me, personally, but this multiple set of websites can be
an issue for some users and there should be some pressure put on them to
enable users to get a reduced cost against multiple sites.

 

Regards

 

Chris

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[LegacyUG] Version 9 doesn't open completely

[JV Leavitt]

With version 9, a Legacy file opens the same way it did in version 8, 
without displaying individual tags! Is it such a small thing -- to 
expect the program to open all the way? Does this not bother anyone 
else? :-)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any
remaining need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family
search by tree owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth
folks... we need to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of
genealogical societies ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can
do, so why hold on to it after the recent problems... They will have to
come out with something truely compete and new features for me to consider
upgrading Family tree 2014...

On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  wrote:

> I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints which
> include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is automatically
> added to your file along with the source but except for some FamilySearch
> images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the images
> by the provider I was able to download and attach source images obtained
> via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
>
> Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England and
> Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and marriage
> registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> baptism, marriage and death details.
>
> Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes which
> have no image.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
>
>> The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a competitive
>> hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of ancestry
>> '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
>> sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached
>> images
>> of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
>> ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
>> expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to document
>> beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so true
>> competition will need to include those features at some point in the
>> national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is far
>> and
>> away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The
>> ability
>> to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as opposed
>> to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented guess
>> on
>> their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the information in
>> a hint.
>>
>
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Users Group

[Margaret Gagliardi]

Does anyone know if there is a Legacy Users Group in Virginia or North
Carolina?
Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Brian Kelly]

I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints 
which include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if 
you choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is 
automatically added to your file along with the source but except for 
some FamilySearch images which are not downloadable due to restrictions 
placed on the images by the provider I was able to download and attach 
source images obtained via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and 
FamilySearch.


Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England and 
Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and marriage 
registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with 
baptism, marriage and death details.


Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes 
which have no image.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:

The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a competitive
hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of ancestry
'72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached images
of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to document
beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so true
competition will need to include those features at some point in the
national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is far and
away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The ability
to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as opposed
to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented guess on
their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the information in
a hint.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a competitive
hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of ancestry
'72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached images
of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to document
beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so true
competition will need to include those features at some point in the
national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is far and
away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The ability
to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as opposed
to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented guess on
their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the information in
a hint.

On Apr 21, 2017 9:28 AM, "Pete"  wrote:

> While this thread is about Hints, I have a slightly different, but
> relevant observation.
>
>
>
> My family has been in the US since 1880.  My research extends into
> Ireland, where I have conducted extensive onsite research  However, when I
> attempt use a source (SourceWriter), there are no templates for major sites
> in Ireland.  Discussions with Legacy resulted in the statement “SourceWriter
> templates are mostly geared for US sources”.
>
>
>
> I have requested that Legacy add the source templates for Ireland.  They
> have taken the request and placed it into the program bucket with a
> suggested “High” priority. Without Legacy supporting the major archives, we
> must “Hack” out way into recording data properly.
>
>
>
> My experience with this thread,  suggests that Legacy may have a major
> issue in supporting “foreign”/(non US) sites and data.
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Philip Solida
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 2:47 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints
>
>
>
> Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for searches...
> maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am American, as nearly all
> Americans are immigrants at some point I also would like to see "foreign"
> searches as eventually I need German, Swiss, and French records as well as
> Irish and others. Hope that is not the case and just taking awhile to get
> to searching the "foreign" sites.
>
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach"  wrote:
>
> I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so
> far
> I've been quite disappointed.
>
> 1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see
> point 2
> below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find.
> :) I
> use mainly FindMyPast.
>
> 2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all
> my
> entries are UK based.
>
> 3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
> quantity
> doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
> reappeared.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Ian
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Margaret Gagliardi]

Ever since I began using Legacy, I have transcribed everything I found on
each individual under the General tab.  Census, Deeds, Wills, Birth & Death
Records, obits, letters, etc. and the last item I put is the Find-a-Grave
information.  I copy and paste into the General Tab when I can.  In some
cases, when I print out a family group sheet it may be 20-30 pages long,
all telling about the life of that husband and wife.  I can refer back to
it at any time and see the full information exactly as I found it.  I wish
we would have had that story tab a long time ago, so unless there is,
something very special about it, I don't plan to look at my almost 20,000
folks and move what is in my General Tab to the Story Tab.  Can anyone tell
me what the difference would be and how it would PDF or print out to
include all my work?
Thanks Margaret

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> I see two things here:
>
> 1. The article/excerpt itself seems like it was tailor-made for the new
> Stories feature in Legacy 9.0. I would enter the entire sketch and use the
> Texas history book as the source. You can then share that story with all
> the other family members mentioned if you wish.
>
> 2. If the article mentions new people (or new information about existing
> ones) then I would enter/add the data and use the article as the source for
> the data. For example, if the article has a date that you were missing then
> it is the source for that new date. If it mentions a new person then it is
> the source for all the data you enter from that article about that person.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
>
> On 20-Apr-17 10:44 PM, Barton Lewis wrote:
>
>> As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
>> biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
>> published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
>> ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
>> who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts
>> and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
>> names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
>> entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
>> identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
>> sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
>> don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best
>> sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barton
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Pete]

While this thread is about Hints, I have a slightly different, but relevant 
observation.  

 

My family has been in the US since 1880.  My research extends into Ireland, 
where I have conducted extensive onsite research  However, when I attempt use a 
source (SourceWriter), there are no templates for major sites in Ireland.  
Discussions with Legacy resulted in the statement “SourceWriter templates are 
mostly geared for US sources”. 

 

I have requested that Legacy add the source templates for Ireland.  They have 
taken the request and placed it into the program bucket with a suggested “High” 
priority. Without Legacy supporting the major archives, we must “Hack” out way 
into recording data properly.

 

My experience with this thread,  suggests that Legacy may have a major issue in 
supporting “foreign”/(non US) sites and data.  

 

Pete

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Philip Solida
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 2:47 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

 

Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for searches... 
maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am American, as nearly all 
Americans are immigrants at some point I also would like to see "foreign" 
searches as eventually I need German, Swiss, and French records as well as 
Irish and others. Hope that is not the case and just taking awhile to get to 
searching the "foreign" sites.

 

On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach"  > wrote:

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so far
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see point 2
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find. :) I
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have reappeared.

Any ideas?

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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[Philip Solida]

So as I see it David, your concerns concentrate around backward
compatibility  (ability to save in a old format as well as the new) as much
for sharing purposes as any other reason... and yes I can add my voice to
that as well... while I went to 9, as we age and ate forced over to fixed
incomes, other budget items become more pressing than new software
versions... which also means we squeeze out our largest and best sources of
information as they age and their computer systems and programs become
dinosaurs. A interesting problem. Perhaps a suggestion to programs to
support backward compatibility as well as forward is in order... a'la
Microsoft Word which allows you to save in the several old formats as well
as new. We can export to gedcom and paf, as well as import them, so why not
old legacy formats as well as the new? Of corse you could export a gedcom
to those with older file formats for them to import  but why not be able to
save and import from the old legacy formats as well as the new.

On Apr 21, 2017 8:44 AM, "David Picken" <dpic...@web.de> wrote:

> Cathy,
>
> Thanks for responding.
>
> I have no doubt that Legacy9 will be an improvement, but that doesn’t
> necessarily mean that everyone needs to have it. It is not free-of-charge,
> after all.
>
> But your question is not really fair, because if I knew the details I
> probably wouldn’t need to ask the general question.
>
> As I see it, the fact about the new file format is NOT in the advertising
> material, I only picked it up in the user group. That makes me suspicious,
> to put it simply.
> I just can’t know what else might be in there that they haven’t talked
> about openly.
> And I don’t want to get nasty surprises after using Legacy9 for a couple
> of days or weeks.
>
> The first questions to the Legacy folks would of course be:
>
>- Are you going to continue supporting Legacy8 for those who don’t
>really see the need for Legacy9 in their daily activiities?
>- Is there a termination date set for such support?
>
> And I do have a couple of questions specifically about the format change.
> Maybe you or someone else in the group can answer these:
>
>- Will Legacy9 files have a different extension so that we can
>identify them immediately?
>- If I don’t use new features such as hashtagging, will the new file
>stay compatible to Legacy8?
>- Can I export from Legacy9 in Legacy8 format (in order to be able to
>send files to people who haven’t changed)?
>
> Again, thanks for writing.
> Cheers, David
>
>
>
> Am 20170421 um 10:15 schrieb Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>:
>
> David,
>
> What specifically do you need to know about?
> The database has changed to accommodate new features like Hashtags. That's
> why you can't use a Legacy 9 database in Legacy 8.
> But the format on screen for old data hasn't changed.
>
> There have been a few tweaks to old features.
> eg in Detailed Search, the Where to look list is now alphabetical than in
> some supposed logical order as it had grown so much the logic was lost.
> eg you can now opt to see Ancestor Colours on Index View and Name List
>
> The major differences are the new features which are advertised on the web
> pages. I'm not sure what more you want.
> I think Same-Sex marriage is missing from Geoff's video on new features.
> Can't think of anything else.
>
> Cathy
> Legacy tester
>
> David Picken wrote:
>
>
> Is there a list of the major differences be tween Legacy8 and Legacy9
> somewhere?
>
> I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data
> formats and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising stuff on
> the home page!
>
> Thanks, David
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[Philip Solida]

So as I see it David, your concerns concentrate around backward
compatibility  (ability to save in a old format as well as the new) as much
for sharing purposes as any other reason... and yes I can add my voice to
that as well... while I went to 9, as we age and ate forced over to fixed
incomes, other budget items become more pressing than new software
versions... which also means we squeeze out our largest and best sources of
information as they age and their computer systems and programs become
dinosaurs. A interesting problem. Perhaps a suggestion to programs to
support backward compatibility as well as forward is in order... a'la
Microsoft Word which allows you to save in the several old formats as well
as new. We can export to gedcom and paf, as well as import them, so why not
old legacy formats as well as the new? Of corse you could export a gedcom
to those with older file formats for them to import  but why not be able to
save and import from the old legacy formats as well as the new.

On Apr 21, 2017 8:44 AM, "David Picken" <dpic...@web.de> wrote:

Cathy,

Thanks for responding.

I have no doubt that Legacy9 will be an improvement, but that doesn’t
necessarily mean that everyone needs to have it. It is not free-of-charge,
after all.

But your question is not really fair, because if I knew the details I
probably wouldn’t need to ask the general question.

As I see it, the fact about the new file format is NOT in the advertising
material, I only picked it up in the user group. That makes me suspicious,
to put it simply.
I just can’t know what else might be in there that they haven’t talked
about openly.
And I don’t want to get nasty surprises after using Legacy9 for a couple of
days or weeks.

The first questions to the Legacy folks would of course be:

   - Are you going to continue supporting Legacy8 for those who don’t
   really see the need for Legacy9 in their daily activiities?
   - Is there a termination date set for such support?

And I do have a couple of questions specifically about the format change.
Maybe you or someone else in the group can answer these:

   - Will Legacy9 files have a different extension so that we can identify
   them immediately?
   - If I don’t use new features such as hashtagging, will the new file
   stay compatible to Legacy8?
   - Can I export from Legacy9 in Legacy8 format (in order to be able to
   send files to people who haven’t changed)?

Again, thanks for writing.
Cheers, David



Am 20170421 um 10:15 schrieb Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>:

David,

What specifically do you need to know about?
The database has changed to accommodate new features like Hashtags. That's
why you can't use a Legacy 9 database in Legacy 8.
But the format on screen for old data hasn't changed.

There have been a few tweaks to old features.
eg in Detailed Search, the Where to look list is now alphabetical than in
some supposed logical order as it had grown so much the logic was lost.
eg you can now opt to see Ancestor Colours on Index View and Name List

The major differences are the new features which are advertised on the web
pages. I'm not sure what more you want.
I think Same-Sex marriage is missing from Geoff's video on new features.
Can't think of anything else.

Cathy
Legacy tester

David Picken wrote:


Is there a list of the major differences be tween Legacy8 and Legacy9
somewhere?

I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data
formats and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising stuff on
the home page!

Thanks, David



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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[Cathy Pinner]

David,

Support is still supporting people who are using Legacy 4. So yes 
they'll keep supporting people who don't go from 8 to 9.


Database conversions are normal between versions and within versions. 
Any new feature or a tweak to make a field larger requires a database 
conversion.


There's been discussion of how a Legacy 9 file can't be opened in Legacy 
8. It's difficult to communicate to everyone so that everyone hears 
everything that is said. Correction: it's impossible.


Cathy

David Picken wrote:


Cathy,

Thanks for responding.

I have no doubt that Legacy9 will be an improvement, but that doesn’t
necessarily mean that everyone needs to have it. It is not
free-of-charge, after all.

But your question is not really fair, because if I knew the details I
probably wouldn’t need to ask the general question.

As I see it, the fact about the new file format is NOT in the
advertising material, I only picked it up in the user group. That
makes me suspicious, to put it simply.
I just can’t know what else might be in there that they haven’t talked
about openly.
And I don’t want to get nasty surprises after using Legacy9 for a
couple of days or weeks.

The first questions to the Legacy folks would of course be:

* Are you going to continue supporting Legacy8 for those who don’t
really see the need for Legacy9 in their daily activiities?
* Is there a termination date set for such support?

And I do have a couple of questions specifically about the format
change. Maybe you or someone else in the group can answer these:

* Will Legacy9 files have a different extension so that we can
identify them immediately?
* If I don’t use new features such as hashtagging, will the new file
stay compatible to Legacy8?
* Can I export from Legacy9 in Legacy8 format (in order to be able
to send files to people who haven’t changed)?

Again, thanks for writing.
Cheers, David



Am 20170421 um 10:15 schrieb Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com
<mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>:

David,

What specifically do you need to know about?
The database has changed to accommodate new features like Hashtags.
That's why you can't use a Legacy 9 database in Legacy 8.
But the format on screen for old data hasn't changed.

There have been a few tweaks to old features.
eg in Detailed Search, the Where to look list is now alphabetical than
in some supposed logical order as it had grown so much the logic was lost.
eg you can now opt to see Ancestor Colours on Index View and Name List

The major differences are the new features which are advertised on the
web pages. I'm not sure what more you want.
I think Same-Sex marriage is missing from Geoff's video on new
features. Can't think of anything else.

Cathy
Legacy tester

David Picken wrote:



Is there a list of the major differences be tween Legacy8 and Legacy9
somewhere?

I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data
formats and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising
stuff on the home page!

Thanks, David





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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[David Picken]

Cathy,

Thanks for responding.

I have no doubt that Legacy9 will be an improvement, but that doesn’t 
necessarily mean that everyone needs to have it. It is not free-of-charge, 
after all.

But your question is not really fair, because if I knew the details I probably 
wouldn’t need to ask the general question.

As I see it, the fact about the new file format is NOT in the advertising 
material, I only picked it up in the user group. That makes me suspicious, to 
put it simply.
I just can’t know what else might be in there that they haven’t talked about 
openly.
And I don’t want to get nasty surprises after using Legacy9 for a couple of 
days or weeks.

The first questions to the Legacy folks would of course be:
Are you going to continue supporting Legacy8 for those who don’t really see the 
need for Legacy9 in their daily activiities?
Is there a termination date set for such support?
And I do have a couple of questions specifically about the format change. Maybe 
you or someone else in the group can answer these:
Will Legacy9 files have a different extension so that we can identify them 
immediately?
If I don’t use new features such as hashtagging, will the new file stay 
compatible to Legacy8?
Can I export from Legacy9 in Legacy8 format (in order to be able to send files 
to people who haven’t changed)?
Again, thanks for writing.
Cheers, David



Am 20170421 um 10:15 schrieb Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>:

David,

What specifically do you need to know about?
The database has changed to accommodate new features like Hashtags. That's why 
you can't use a Legacy 9 database in Legacy 8.
But the format on screen for old data hasn't changed.

There have been a few tweaks to old features.
eg in Detailed Search, the Where to look list is now alphabetical than in some 
supposed logical order as it had grown so much the logic was lost.
eg you can now opt to see Ancestor Colours on Index View and Name List

The major differences are the new features which are advertised on the web 
pages. I'm not sure what more you want.
I think Same-Sex marriage is missing from Geoff's video on new features. Can't 
think of anything else.

Cathy
Legacy tester

David Picken wrote:
> 
> Is there a list of the major differences be tween Legacy8 and Legacy9 
> somewhere?
> 
> I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data formats 
> and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising stuff on the home 
> page!
> 
> Thanks, David
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Brian Kelly]

I see two things here:

1. The article/excerpt itself seems like it was tailor-made for the new 
Stories feature in Legacy 9.0. I would enter the entire sketch and use 
the Texas history book as the source. You can then share that story with 
all the other family members mentioned if you wish.


2. If the article mentions new people (or new information about existing 
ones) then I would enter/add the data and use the article as the source 
for the data. For example, if the article has a date that you were 
missing then it is the source for that new date. If it mentions a new 
person then it is the source for all the data you enter from that 
article about that person.


Brian Kelly

On 20-Apr-17 10:44 PM, Barton Lewis wrote:

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Barton



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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints (new in v9)

[Cathy Pinner]

Ian,
During the test process, we had numbers of freezes in Legacy 9 of 
course. That's expected during development.


But we haven't seen many lately.
I haven't seen any for some time when working normally - only when 
testing things known to crash Legacy many of which most users will never 
encounter.


So if you can work out a pattern, do report it.
I wonder if you are minimising the Hints Results window and not seeing 
it near or under your Taskbar?
Check the box on the Hints Results window so that it closes when you 
follow a Hint to the website OR click (lower right icon) to create a 
Floating Window so it stays open but you can work in Legacy with it 
open. This is the best option if you are getting Hints from more than 
one site. Closing is the best option if you just have one Hint site 
checked unless it's FamilySearch.


Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Cathy – I have been doing much the same: independently using
FindMyPast with only a free membership; and so the Legacy hints to FMP
are useful. And yes, I do see the Billion Graves in the FMP hints.

The Hints gathering may be a problem: I had a couple of Legacy freezes
today which needed killing with Task Manager – not something I like to
do, of course, with data attached. In Task Manager I saw a large
number of child processes for my browser and that may have
contributed. It may be necessary to close instances that Legacy spawns
- I will keep a check, and reserve judgement.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, 21 April 2017 5:55 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Hints (new in v9)

Ian,

I get BillionGrave hints in the FindMyPast hints - for South
Australians where I've been doing most of my research lately.
The FMP hints have been saving me time giving me things from databases
that I would have otherwise searched for myself.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


I'm happy with v9 - no complaints.
I like the Hints - a nice feature is the refresh. It would be nice
if Billion Graves was included amongst the resources for Hints -
Find a Grave isn't something that I use.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Austen
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 6:27 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9
< BR> Hi David,

I've only been using v9 for a couple of days. There doesn't seem
to be a significant change in v9 other than the advertized items -
which I am beginning to like. However I have noticed there are
also some bugs in V8 that are now fixed in v9. It also seems to
load quicker but that is speculative as mine open very quickly
anyway. I'm thinking they may have streamlined some of the code.

Thankfully they haven't changed the 'look and feel' of Legacy.
Mine upgraded with 99% of the old settings.

I'm pleased with the upgrade.

Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints (new in v9)

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy – I have been doing much the same: independently using FindMyPast with 
only a free membership; and so the Legacy hints to FMP are useful. And yes, I 
do see the Billion Graves in the FMP hints.
The Hints gathering may be a problem: I had a couple of Legacy freezes today 
which needed killing with Task Manager – not something I like to do, of course, 
with data attached. In Task Manager I saw a large number of child processes for 
my browser and that may have contributed. It may be necessary to close 
instances that Legacy spawns - I will keep a check, and reserve judgement.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 5:55 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hints (new in v9)

Ian,

I get BillionGrave hints in the FindMyPast hints - for South Australians where 
I've been doing most of my research lately.
The FMP hints have been saving me time giving me things from databases that I 
would have otherwise searched for myself.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


I'm happy with v9 - no complaints.
I like the Hints - a nice feature is the refresh. It would be nice if Billion 
Graves was included amongst the resources for Hints - Find a Grave isn't 
something that I use.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 6:27 AM
To: 'Legacy User 
Group'>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9
< BR> Hi David,

I've only been using v9 for a couple of days.  There doesn't seem to be a 
significant change in v9 other than the advertized items - which I am beginning 
to like.  However I have noticed there are also some bugs in V8 that are now 
fixed in v9. It also seems to load quicker but that is speculative as mine open 
very quickly anyway.  I'm thinking they may have streamlined some of the code.

Thankfully they haven't changed the 'look and feel' of Legacy.  Mine upgraded 
with 99% of the old settings.

I'm pleased with the upgrade.

Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION

[Cathy Pinner]

Gary,

Did you buy Legacy 8 on or after 25 Nov 2016? If so, you qualify for a 
free upgrade and you should have received an email. If not check your 
spam folder or contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com.


If you have had Legacy 8 deluxe for longer than that, go to 
www.legacyfamilytree.com

Click on Online Store
Click Upgrades from the dropdown list or proceed to Store and on the 
left panel see the Upgrade to Legacy 9 item

Click on that and make your selection - the cheapest is at the bottom.
You'll need your Legacy 8 customer number/unlock code to order the 
purchase the upgrade. You find that in Legacy 8 at File - File 
Properties and other places.

Follow the screen directions to Checkout for payment.
I understand the new unlock code/customer number is on the receipt.
Then Download Legacy 9.
Backup your Legacy 8 files before installing.
When installing cancel out of or skip the backup section there. That's 
where people have had problems.

Otherwise just follow what it says.

Cathy
Legacy tester

Gary Schenck wrote:


I PRESENTLY HAVE LEGACY 8.0 DELUXE VERSION. WHAT ARE MY STEPS FOR
GETTING 9.0 DELUXE VERSION? CAN ANYONE GIVE ME HELP??

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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[Cathy Pinner]

David,

What specifically do you need to know about?
The database has changed to accommodate new features like Hashtags. 
That's why you can't use a Legacy 9 database in Legacy 8.

But the format on screen for old data hasn't changed.

There have been a few tweaks to old features.
eg in Detailed Search, the Where to look list is now alphabetical than 
in some supposed logical order as it had grown so much the logic was lost.

eg you can now opt to see Ancestor Colours on Index View and Name List

The major differences are the new features which are advertised on the 
web pages. I'm not sure what more you want.
I think Same-Sex marriage is missing from Geoff's video on new features. 
Can't think of anything else.


Cathy
Legacy tester

David Picken wrote:


Is there a list of the major differences between Legacy8 and Legacy9 
somewhere?


I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data 
formats and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising 
stuff on the home page!


Thanks, David



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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[Cathy Pinner]

David,

You cannot use a Legacy 9 file in Legacy 8. Legacy 8 files are converted 
for use in Legacy 9 so if there is any chance that you might want to 
revert to 8, you need good backups.


Legacy 8 backups will restore in Legacy 9 as will Legacy 2,3,4,5,6,7, 
and 7.5 backups. I know as I've tested almost all of those. I couldn't 
find a Legacy 4 backup for some reason but I haven't mined all my 
backups ;)


Note Legacy Support is still supporting people using earlier versions of 
Legacy and have copies of many versions available for testing and 
support. Legacy 4 was the last one I heard about.


So I guess the question is "in what way are you supporting "casual" users?"

Cathy
Legacy tester

David Picken wrote:


Thank you, Bob, for the encouraging report.

I thought I had read somewhere in this group that Legacy 9 files would 
not be compatible with Legacy 8.

Is that not the case, then?

If that turns out to be true, I see problems coming up when supporting 
„casual“ users of Legacy, who will not be keen to purchase Legacy 9.


Cheers, David



Am 20170420 um 22:27 schrieb Bob Austen:

Hi David,

I've only been using v9 for a couple of days. There doesn't seem to be a
significant change in v9 other than the advertized items - which I am
beginning to like. However I have noticed there are also some bugs in V8
that are now fixed in v9. It also seems to load quicker but that is
speculative as mine open very quickly anyway. I'm thinking they may have
streamlined some of the code.

Thankfully they haven't changed the 'look and feel' of Legacy. Mine
upgraded with 99% of the old settings.

I'm pleased with the upgrade.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Picken
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

Is there a list of the major differences between Legacy8 and Legacy9
somewhere?

I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data 
formats
and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising stuff on 
the home

page!

Thanks, David



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Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

[David Picken]

Thank you, Bob, for the encouraging report.

I thought I had read somewhere in this group that Legacy 9 files would not be 
compatible with Legacy 8.
Is that not the case, then?

If that turns out to be true, I see problems coming up when supporting „casual“ 
users of Legacy, who will not be keen to purchase Legacy 9.

Cheers, David



Am 20170420 um 22:27 schrieb Bob Austen :

Hi David,

I've only been using v9 for a couple of days.  There doesn't seem to be a
significant change in v9 other than the advertized items - which I am
beginning to like.  However I have noticed there are also some bugs in V8
that are now fixed in v9. It also seems to load quicker but that is
speculative as mine open very quickly anyway.  I'm thinking they may have
streamlined some of the code.

Thankfully they haven't changed the 'look and feel' of Legacy.  Mine
upgraded with 99% of the old settings.

I'm pleased with the upgrade.

Bob

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Picken
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

Is there a list of the major differences between Legacy8 and Legacy9
somewhere?

I mean an honest and complete list that tells me about changing data formats
and things I need to be aware of, not just the advertising stuff on the home
page!

Thanks, David




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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints (new in v9)

[Cathy Pinner]

Ian,

I get BillionGrave hints in the FindMyPast hints - for South Australians 
where I've been doing most of my research lately.
The FMP hints have been saving me time giving me things from databases 
that I would have otherwise searched for myself.


Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


I'm happy with v9 - no complaints.
I like the Hints - a nice feature is the refresh. It would be nice if 
Billion Graves was included amongst the resources for Hints - Find a 
Grave isn't something that I use.


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Bob Austen

Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 6:27 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Legacy9

Hi David,

I've only been using v9 for a couple of days. There doesn't seem to be 
a significant change in v9 other than the advertized items - which I 
am beginning to like. However I have noticed there are also some bugs 
in V8 that are now fixed in v9. It also seems to load quicker but that 
is speculative as mine open very quickly anyway. I'm thinking they may 
have streamlined some of the code.


Thankfully they haven't changed the 'look and feel' of Legacy. Mine 
upgraded with 99% of the old settings.


I'm pleased with the upgrade.

Bob

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Cathy Pinner]

Philip,

FindMyPast is a UK company from which I get UK and Australian hints 
since most of my research is in England and Australia. They've only 
comparatively recently entered the US market as well.


MyHeritage is actually an Israeli company with a reputation for having 
good European data. I don't know. I do know they don't have unique 
Australian and English data but feed you FamilySearch data.


FamilySearch is worldwide though hints from FamilySearch are only coming 
from things that have been hinted by them to FamilySearch trees and then 
only if you have the FS ID entered in Legacy.


Genealogy Bank is the only hinting site that is pure USA (maybe also 
Canada but I don't think so).


Cathy

Philip Solida wrote:


Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for
searches... maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am
American, as nearly all Americans are immigrants at some point I also
would like to see "foreign" searches as eventually I need German,
Swiss, and French records as well as Irish and others. Hope that is
not the case and just taking awhile to get to searching the "foreign"
sites.

On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach" > wrote:

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9
but so far
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered
(except see point 2
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is
to find. :) I
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even
though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint
icon quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for searches...
maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am American, as nearly all
Americans are immigrants at some point I also would like to see "foreign"
searches as eventually I need German, Swiss, and French records as well as
Irish and others. Hope that is not the case and just taking awhile to get
to searching the "foreign" sites.

On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach"  wrote:

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so
far
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see
point 2
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find.
:) I
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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[LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Ian Beach]

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so far 
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see point 2 
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find. :) I 
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my 
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon quantity 
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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Ian Beach
College Grove, Western Australia


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