Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[Trevor Carlson]

Run the Potential Problems Report, found under 'Tools' section. Choose what
you want to check for, as there are lots of options.

 

Thanks,

Trevor Carlson

Edmonton, AB

 

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How do I find out how many problems there are ?

 

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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[vbgarton]

How do I find out how many problems there are ?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

[Brian Kelly]

Glad I could help.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:31 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Brian, that was quick and it worked.

-Original Message- From: Brian Kelly
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems
you do NOT want monitored.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

[olivannahen]

Thanks Brian, that was quick and it worked.

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From: Brian Kelly

Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems
you do NOT want monitored.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

[Brian Kelly]

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems 
you do NOT want monitored.


Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
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[LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

[olivannahen]

Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to disable 
the potential problems feature.
I keep having to individually delete things like 
Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click on the one I 
want and save, and it still won’t work.   Other 
‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I do exclude them but it does 
only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the family 
file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have much 
more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Bob Austen]

Thanks Cathy,  

 

As usual your are the genius.  That worked, so I guess it is a bug when is 
won’t work with the other setting.

 

Many thanks,

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

 

Bob,

Do it from either Tools - Potential Problems or Reports - Other Reports - 
Potential Problems.

I think the changes are sticking there. Sorry I haven't had a chance to look at 
it further yet but I will.

Cathy

Bob Austen wrote:




Thanks Ian, Cathy,

Restart doesn’t help.

It is the age Warnings (8.11) and any/all of the ages go back to 
default – I can’t find a way to save changes.

Bob

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[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:43 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the firs t gap 
setting - warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.

I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any 
particular ones not holding for you?

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Prob 
lems/ Change Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to 
ages, click on Set All, the changes are not saved. (Just close then 
reopen 'Change Potential Problem Settings' and all changes are back at 
the d efault
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Cathy Pinner]

Bob,

Do it from either Tools - Potential Problems or Reports - Other Reports 
- Potential Problems.


I think the changes are sticking there. Sorry I haven't had a chance to 
look at it further yet but I will.


Cathy

Bob Austen wrote:


Thanks Ian, Cathy,

Restart doesn’t help.

It is the age Warnings (8.11) and any/all of the ages go back to
default – I can’t find a way to save changes.

Bob

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Pinner
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:43 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the first gap
setting - warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.

I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any
particular ones not holding for you?

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Prob
lems/ Change Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to
ages, click on Set All, the changes are not saved. (Just close then
reopen 'Change Potential Problem Settings' and all changes are back at
the default
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Bob Austen]

Thanks Ian, Cathy, 

 

Restart doesn’t help.

It is the age Warnings (8.11) and any/all of the ages go back to default – I 
can’t find a way to save changes.

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

 

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the first gap setting - 
warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.

I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any particular ones 
not holding for you? 

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:




Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Prob lems/ Change 
Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to ages, click on Set All, 
the changes are not saved. (Just close then reopen 'Change Potential Problem 
Settings' and all changes are back at the default
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Cathy Pinner]

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the first gap 
setting - warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.


I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any 
particular ones not holding for you?


Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Bob Austen

Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems/ 
Change Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to ages, 
click on Set All, the changes are not saved. (Just close then reopen 
'Change Potential Problem Settings' and all changes are back at the 
default

settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Ian Thomas]

Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems/ Change 
Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to ages, click on Set All, 
the changes are not saved. (Just close then reopen 'Change Potential Problem 
Settings' and all changes are back at the default
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen


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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Bob Austen]

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems/
Change Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to ages, click on
Set All, the changes are not saved. (Just close then reopen 'Change
Potential Problem Settings' and all changes are back at the default
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems

[David Abernathy]

There are many areas where the bodies are stored until spring thaw, but a 
service was held at the time of death.
Even today with the big machines (backho) the frozen ground is to much for them.

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems


Anne:



You have seen the responses about stopping the potential problem for 
individuals.  But I would also have a reburial event for those that are 
affected.  As far as the frozen ground, do you mean that graves had not been 
pre-dug (see Northern Exposure episode where the mayor is estimating the number 
of graves needed and the doctor, Joel, refuses to give his thoughts as to who 
might die.)?



Howland Davis



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Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 6:11 pm
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems

I've been stewing about what to do about this issue for some time. I have 
several people with potential burial problems and the problems stem from the 
following circumstances: 1. Burial took place within a few days of death; 
person was disinterred and reburied in a new location; i.e. from a family 
burial ground to a new cemetery. I have quite a few people this happened to. 
They lived in the Lexington, Kentucky area. 2. Cremation took place but ashes 
weren't interred for quite some time afterwards (several instances of this.) 3. 
Due to weather, person was not interred immediately. Most of these were due to 
people not being buried right away because ground was frozen. I don't want to 
turn off the potential problem alert, because it helps in correcting errors. 
Not sure what would happen if I add an additional burial event; make a custom 
re-burial event or used alternate burial event. Ideas? -- *Anne Kruszka 
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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems

[Anne Percival Kruszka]

I've been stewing about what to do about this issue for some time. I
have several people with potential burial problems and the problems stem
from the following circumstances:

1. Burial took place within a few days of death; person was disinterred
and reburied in a new location; i.e. from a family burial ground to a
new cemetery. I have quite a few people this happened to. They lived in
the Lexington, Kentucky area.

2. Cremation took place but ashes weren't interred for quite some time
afterwards (several instances of this.)

3. Due to weather, person was not interred immediately. Most of these
were due to people not being buried right away because ground was frozen.

I don't want to turn off the potential problem alert, because it helps
in correcting errors. Not sure what would happen if I add an additional
burial event; make a custom re-burial event or used alternate burial event.

Ideas?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems

[Gene Young]

On 8/4/2015 6:10 PM, Anne Percival Kruszka wrote:
 I've been stewing about what to do about this issue for some time. I
 have several people with potential burial problems and the problems stem
 from the following circumstances:

 1. Burial took place within a few days of death; person was disinterred
 and reburied in a new location; i.e. from a family burial ground to a
 new cemetery. I have quite a few people this happened to. They lived in
 the Lexington, Kentucky area.

 2. Cremation took place but ashes weren't interred for quite some time
 afterwards (several instances of this.)

 3. Due to weather, person was not interred immediately. Most of these
 were due to people not being buried right away because ground was frozen.

 I don't want to turn off the potential problem alert, because it helps
 in correcting errors. Not sure what would happen if I add an additional
 burial event; make a custom re-burial event or used alternate burial event.

 Ideas?


When you have a potential problem that you know is not a problem, right click 
the red indicator and tell it to ignore this one instance.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems

[Eliz Hanebury]

Just click on the mark not a problem button for those people, my
ggfather was buried 3 days after his death in Dec 31 of 1901 that gave
Legacy fits! So far I have been lucky with my Ohio burials with so
many on the Ohio River (Marietta and Youngstown) most have stayed in
place and none were lost in floods!
Eliz
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(Anon)

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For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)


On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Anne Percival Kruszka
ackrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been stewing about what to do about this issue for some time. I
 have several people with potential burial problems and the problems stem
 from the following circumstances:

 1. Burial took place within a few days of death; person was disinterred
 and reburied in a new location; i.e. from a family burial ground to a
 new cemetery. I have quite a few people this happened to. They lived in
 the Lexington, Kentucky area.

 2. Cremation took place but ashes weren't interred for quite some time
 afterwards (several instances of this.)

 3. Due to weather, person was not interred immediately. Most of these
 were due to people not being buried right away because ground was frozen.

 I don't want to turn off the potential problem alert, because it helps
 in correcting errors. Not sure what would happen if I add an additional
 burial event; make a custom re-burial event or used alternate burial event.

 Ideas?


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 gift. [Eleanor Roosevelt]* http://geneanotes.blogspot.com
 http://tennlady-generational.blogspot.com/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems

[Howlanddavisii]

Anne:

You have seen the responses about stopping the potential problem for 
individuals.  But I would also have a reburial event for those that are 
affected.  As far as the frozen ground, do you mean that graves had not been 
pre-dug (see Northern Exposure episode where the mayor is estimating the number 
of graves needed and the doctor, Joel, refuses to give his thoughts as to who 
might die.)?

Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: Anne Percival Kruszka ackrus...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 6:11 pm
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems


I've been stewing about what to do about this issue for some time. I
have
several people with potential burial problems and the problems stem
from the
following circumstances:

1. Burial took place within a few days of death;
person was disinterred
and reburied in a new location; i.e. from a family
burial ground to a
new cemetery. I have quite a few people this happened to.
They lived in
the Lexington, Kentucky area.

2. Cremation took place but
ashes weren't interred for quite some time
afterwards (several instances of
this.)

3. Due to weather, person was not interred immediately. Most of
these
were due to people not being buried right away because ground was
frozen.

I don't want to turn off the potential problem alert, because it
helps
in correcting errors. Not sure what would happen if I add an
additional
burial event; make a custom re-burial event or used alternate burial
event.

Ideas?


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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report

[Howlanddavisii]

I went to print out the Potential Problem report and wanted to print on both 
sides of the paper.  But there did not appear to a way to do that.  Did I miss 
something or is that not possible?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report

[Sherry/Support]

Click on Print Setup and set the duplexing option in your printer
properties. Or click on Page Setup and select the option in the Duplex
section of the Page Setup tab

I usually do both just to be sure g


Sincerely,
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 I went to print out the Potential Problem report and wanted to print on both
 sides of the paper. But there did not appear to a way to do that. Did I miss
 something or is that not possible?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report

[Howlanddavisii]

Sherry:

Thank you.  I started to print after changing the Printer Setup and it did 
one page at a time G so I stopped it, changed the Page Setup and the 
remaining pages printed as desired.
I was printing the report for a second time because, though I was born in 
1942, I supposedly died in 1607 which meant I had multiple problems (dates and 
events) and my children were born well after my death Double G.  So I fixed 
that error and a few others in my immediate family and reprinted.

Howland Davis

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To: legacyusergroup legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 21, 2014 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report

Click on Print Setup and set the duplexing option in your printer
properties. Or click on Page Setup and select the option in the Duplex
section of the Page Setup tab

I usually do both just to be sure g

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems Alert

[Bonnie Blumel]

Hey,
So  I have a question considering the potential problems alert. For the
event for the person, when you go to enter in the date, after you fill in
the date, it states in the Potential problems icon, that the event date is
out of range. Then when I save it and go back into the event , the icon
for the potential problems has disappeared.  Is anyone else having issues
with this? Is this part of the normal process for the potential problem
alerts?
Thanks for you help,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Alert

[Gene Young]

On 3/13/2014 6:18 PM, Bonnie Blumel wrote:
 Hey,
 So  I have a question considering the potential problems alert. For the event 
 for the person, when you go to enter in the date, after you fill in the date, 
 it states in the Potential problems icon, that the event date is out of 
 range. Then when I save it and go back into the event , the icon for the 
 potential problems has disappeared.  Is anyone else having issues with this? 
 Is this part of the normal process for the potential problem alerts?
 Thanks for you help,
 Bonnie Blumel


I have observed the same behavior since the last update, however since it goes 
away by itself I have been ignoring it.


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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[singhals]

The database I'm currently working in only has about 15,000
names.  If I have 1000 without a PP flag, I'll be surprised.

Are those things making anyone crazy?

I tried changing the flagging limits, with minimal success,
until finally the limits became meaningless and I had to
re-do them.

I drove myself batty looking at each of the flags, but that
many people that many flags you tend to lose mental track of
which flag you might be able to fix.

I looked for a way to enable PPs only on new data.  Don't
see one. If there is one someone found, wave violently, please.

I've turned the things off.  That's probably going to bring
me grief when I type 1868 and mean 1968 or 1786, but I'm
going to hope those will be obvious to me at some point and
not get lost in a forest of red !


Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[Michele/Support]

Here are some hints to help the PPs work for you and not against you.

The first thing you need to do it go to Tools  Potential Problems and set your 
preferences.  You can skip the Records tab, that is for when you want to run a 
report.  Look at the Warnings, Problems, Standardization and Gaps tabs.  Review 
the selections to see if there is anything you want to change.  The Gaps 
warnings is more for new researchers.  Seasoned researchers know to look for 
these gaps automatically.  They know that they can signal either an unknown 
child or possibly a second marriage.  I have the Gaps option completely turned 
off.

Here is another thing you will want to do to decrease the number of potential 
problems.  If you use any events that normally occur AFTER someone died 
(Cemetery, Obituary are two common ones) you will want to exclude these from 
the Potential Problems checking GLOBALLY.  Go to View  Master Lists   Event 
Definition.  Highlight the event and then click Edit over on the right.  At the 
top of this box you will see some check mark boxes.  Make sure you check 
Exclude from Potential Problems Report.

Another thing that will cut down on PP errors is to globally sort your children 
and then tell Legacy to sort the children as you enter new ones (you can also 
do this for marriages and events but those two don't flag as errors)

To globally sort...  Go to Tools  Other Tools  Sort Children, Marriages, and 
Events.  Check mark the ones you want to do and there you go.  Now we need to 
set it in the Options menu.  Go to Options  Customize  2. Data Entry
2.2 When Adding New Spouses, Children, and Events (gbl).  Set your check marks 
here and now you are finished.

You don't want to let the Potential Problems to get too far ahead of you.  If 
something is not a problem then mark it as such right then (hover over the PP 
icon and follow the directions that appear in the box that pops up).  I would 
also run a global report from time to time to check on the outstanding ones 
that you haven't cleared yet (Tools  Potential Problems, this time go to the 
Records tab)

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:51 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

The database I'm currently working in only has about 15,000 names.  If I have 
1000 without a PP flag, I'll be surprised.

Are those things making anyone crazy?

I tried changing the flagging limits, with minimal success, until finally the 
limits became meaningless and I had to re-do them.

I drove myself batty looking at each of the flags, but that many people that 
many flags you tend to lose mental track of which flag you might be able to fix.

I looked for a way to enable PPs only on new data.  Don't see one. If there is 
one someone found, wave violently, please.

I've turned the things off.  That's probably going to bring me grief when I 
type 1868 and mean 1968 or 1786, but I'm going to hope those will be obvious to 
me at some point and not get lost in a forest of red !


Cheryl





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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[Gene Young]

On 1/31/2014 10:50 AM, singhals wrote:
 The database I'm currently working in only has about 15,000
 names.  If I have 1000 without a PP flag, I'll be surprised.

 Are those things making anyone crazy?

 I tried changing the flagging limits, with minimal success,
 until finally the limits became meaningless and I had to
 re-do them.

 I drove myself batty looking at each of the flags, but that
 many people that many flags you tend to lose mental track of
 which flag you might be able to fix.

 I looked for a way to enable PPs only on new data.  Don't
 see one. If there is one someone found, wave violently, please.

 I've turned the things off.  That's probably going to bring
 me grief when I type 1868 and mean 1968 or 1786, but I'm
 going to hope those will be obvious to me at some point and
 not get lost in a forest of red !


 Cheryl


Cheryl,
I created a potential problems list with the intention of clearing them all.  
Not gonna happen.  I have decided to just address them one by one as I 
encounter them while editing individuals.  This has worked out well as I have 
uncovered new information on a number of individuals by investigating the 
problem.  Doing them this way is easy, uncovers new info and relieves stress.  
As for the red dots, I just ignore them unless I have spare time.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[singhals]

Gene Young wrote:
 On 1/31/2014 10:50 AM, singhals wrote:
 The database I'm currently working in only has about 15,000
 names.  If I have 1000 without a PP flag, I'll be surprised.

 Are those things making anyone crazy?

 I tried changing the flagging limits, with minimal success,
 until finally the limits became meaningless and I had to
 re-do them.

 I drove myself batty looking at each of the flags, but that
 many people that many flags you tend to lose mental track of
 which flag you might be able to fix.

 I looked for a way to enable PPs only on new data.  Don't
 see one. If there is one someone found, wave violently, please.

 I've turned the things off.  That's probably going to bring
 me grief when I type 1868 and mean 1968 or 1786, but I'm
 going to hope those will be obvious to me at some point and
 not get lost in a forest of red !


 Cheryl


 Cheryl,
 I created a potential problems list with the intention of clearing them all.  
 Not gonna happen.  I have decided to just address them one by one as I 
 encounter them while editing individuals.  This has worked out well as I have 
 uncovered new information on a number of individuals by investigating the 
 problem.  Doing them this way is easy, uncovers new info and relieves stress. 
  As for the red dots, I just ignore them unless I have spare time.


I'm afraid I'm one of those incorrigible readers -- show me
an (*) and I'll look for the footnote, even on a ketchup
bottle.  :(  I was spending all my time opening red-dots.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[singhals]

Thanks, Michele, all good advice.

The potential problems are so far ahead of me, I conceded
the race and just turned them off. ;)

Cheryl

Michele/Support wrote:
 Here are some hints to help the PPs work for you and not against you.

 The first thing you need to do it go to Tools  Potential Problems and set 
 your preferences.  You can skip the Records tab, that is for when you want to 
 run a report.  Look at the Warnings, Problems, Standardization and Gaps tabs. 
  Review the selections to see if there is anything you want to change.  The 
 Gaps warnings is more for new researchers.  Seasoned researchers know to 
 look for these gaps automatically.  They know that they can signal either an 
 unknown child or possibly a second marriage.  I have the Gaps option 
 completely turned off.

 Here is another thing you will want to do to decrease the number of potential 
 problems.  If you use any events that normally occur AFTER someone died 
 (Cemetery, Obituary are two common ones) you will want to exclude these from 
 the Potential Problems checking GLOBALLY.  Go to View  Master Lists  Event 
 Definition.  Highlight the event and then click Edit over on the right.  At 
 the top of this box you will see some check mark boxes.  Make sure you check 
 Exclude from Potential Problems Report.

 Another thing that will cut down on PP errors is to globally sort your 
 children and then tell Legacy to sort the children as you enter new ones (you 
 can also do this for marriages and events but those two don't flag as errors)

 To globally sort...  Go to Tools  Other Tools  Sort Children, Marriages, 
 and Events.  Check mark the ones you want to do and there you go.  Now we 
 need to set it in the Options menu.  Go to Options  Customize  2. Data Entry
 2.2 When Adding New Spouses, Children, and Events (gbl).  Set your check 
 marks here and now you are finished.

 You don't want to let the Potential Problems to get too far ahead of you.  If 
 something is not a problem then mark it as such right then (hover over the PP 
 icon and follow the directions that appear in the box that pops up).  I would 
 also run a global report from time to time to check on the outstanding ones 
 that you haven't cleared yet (Tools  Potential Problems, this time go to the 
 Records tab)

 Michele
 Technical Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:51 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

 The database I'm currently working in only has about 15,000 names.  If I have 
 1000 without a PP flag, I'll be surprised.

 Are those things making anyone crazy?

 I tried changing the flagging limits, with minimal success, until finally the 
 limits became meaningless and I had to re-do them.

 I drove myself batty looking at each of the flags, but that many people that 
 many flags you tend to lose mental track of which flag you might be able to 
 fix.

 I looked for a way to enable PPs only on new data.  Don't see one. If there 
 is one someone found, wave violently, please.

 I've turned the things off.  That's probably going to bring me grief when I 
 type 1868 and mean 1968 or 1786, but I'm going to hope those will be obvious 
 to me at some point and not get lost in a forest of red !


 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[MikeFry]

On 31 Jan 2014 19:44, singhals wrote:

 I'm afraid I'm one of those incorrigible readers -- show me
 an (*) and I'll look for the footnote, even on a ketchup
 bottle.:(   I was spending all my time opening red-dots.

You're just like my better half. Reads anything - cereal packets are one
favourite :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems flags

[Syble Glasscock]

I understand your frustration,  I started with my smaller file and had about 30 
pages in a pdf, which I worked on for a while, when seemed endless, but then I 
decided to choose certain ones, such as  bad dates. and getting children in 
Chronological order, I'd chosen this options for new entries, but didn't know 
about the about the option of doing them all at once until I read a reply from 
support.  I would create the pdf, leave it on my desktop, and after I worked on 
it for a while, I'd re-create the pdf, because sometimes one correction affects 
several people and yes it was satisfying see the less number of pages I had to 
work on.

I completed those and now I'm working on what I consider the hard ones, and 
will continue as I have time.
There's a few, I may not ever have an answer for and I wish we had an option of 
changing the color of the flag or something to remind me I'd worked on this, 
but still unsolved.

I encourage you to continue with the Potential Problems until at least most are 
solved, yes it's very time consuming, and honestly I was totally shocked I had 
that many errors, typos, dates reversed etc., so this is a GREAT tool and I'm 
so glad Legacy has added it as it is now, yes I'd prefer a few things 
different, but it's a great asset to our genealogy research.
Syble




On Friday, January 31, 2014 12:14 PM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 31 Jan 2014 19:44, singhals wrote:

 I'm afraid I'm one of those incorrigible readers -- show me
 an (*) and I'll look for the footnote, even on a ketchup
 bottle.:(   I was spending all my time opening red-dots.

You're just like my better half. Reads anything - cereal packets are one
favourite :-)

--
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Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems Settings

[Lloyd Hite]

Hello LUGers,
How do I stop the PP red balls from showing by names in the Family View?
I have went to OptionsCustomizeData Format and scrolled down to 3.12
and unchecked it, but the red balls are still active in Family View.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Settings

[Paul Gray]

Try unchecking Option 8.11




Hello LUGers,
How do I stop the PP red balls from showing by names in the Family View?
I have went to OptionsCustomizeData Format and scrolled down to 3.12 and 
unchecked it, but the red balls are still active in Family View.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Settings

[Lloyd Hite]

On 1/28/2014 6:45 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Try unchecking Option 8.11
I sure appreciate this, Paul. Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[2marion wimps]

Joseph - I can see the idea of tagging is great but I already use tags 1 -
3 so have used 6 - but I am now stumped where you say Now you can go back
to the  Family view, and use the Individual Tag box in the lower right
hand  corner of the window, to jump to the next Tag - the lower right hand
corner is the Marriage Tag - the tags above the main person in Family View
are showing 1 - 9 but how do I jump to the next tag in the line??
Thanks, Marion



On 25 January 2014 04:30, JV Leavitt jleavi...@att.net wrote:

 I just noticed these posts, and want to add a tip that will make this
 process easier, and without printing a list of potential problems.

 Notice that, on the first tab of the Potential Problems setup window,
 there is an option to tag all the records found. I always use Tag 1 for
 temporary lists like this, so I clear all Tag 1s and tic the box that
 says Tag all problem records on tag #.

 Make a list for only one potential problem at a time. Now click on
 Preview, and get a list, which you can close. Now you can go back to the
 Family view, and use the Individual Tag box in the lower right hand
 corner of the window, to jump to the next Tag 1. Since only records with
 one potential problem were tagged, you know that all those who have a
 Tag 1 will be those with the potential problem you selected, and that is
 what you will be looking to correct.

 Repeat this process for other PPs you want to list. I usually make a
 list first of many kinds of PPs, to find which ones I want to zero in
 on, when using the process I have described here.

 Using the Individual Tag box to jump to the next tag number makes this
 process faster and easier than printing a list.

 Joseph Leavitt


 On 1/19/2014 5:34 PM, 2marion wimps wrote:
  Hi Boyd,
  Yes - I can do that - I can also delete items from the pdf file with
  my programme but it seems it would be so much simpler to have a button
  - as in the To Do List - where it says Go to this person. Often
  there are several errors that will be solved in one family, e.g. where
  one of the parents birth, marriage or death dates is incorrect most of
  the siblings are affected by the one correction. I have suggested that
  if this could be done on one screen it could probably be done on
  another. I shall wait and see.
  Thanks,
  Marion
 
 
  On 20 January 2014 03:13, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz
  mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote:
 
  I find the easiest way to deal with the list of potential problems
  is to create a text file, not a pdf.  By using ALT-TAB I can
  switch between the text file and database, and there is no need to
  remember the Rin for very long.  Then I just delete each item
  from the text file as it is dealt with. Any residual problems I
  can't resolve easily are the just copied to a file where I keep
  all my more difficult issues.
  Boyd
  On 20/01/2014 3:28 a.m., 2marion wimps wrote:
  Hi Tom,
  Â
  Thanks - have just done that - will keep my fingers crossed.
  Â
  Marion
 
 
  On 19 January 2014 20:36, Sysadm sys...@ntlworld.com
  mailto:sys...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
  Hi Marion,
 
  Â
 
  Sounds like a good idea, so put in a suggestion to the Legacy
  team about it.
 
  Â
 
  I had the same experience with the Master Locations List,
  where I wanted to ‘select’ an individual from the
 list
  and go straight to the Family View screen. It fell on deaf
  ears, but it has been ‘quietly’ introduced in
 Legacy 8.0
  by double clicking the individual in the list!
 
  Â
 
  Regards,
 
  Tom
 
  Â
 
  *From:*2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com
  mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* 19 January 2014 07:41
  *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List
 
  Â
 
  Am I missing a connection point on this or does it not work
  in the way I would like it - when in the Potential Problems
  List I appreciate you can edit the person, or the marriage or
  the parents but there seems to be no way to go to the Family
  View screen directly from the list without either closing the
  list and the search down (and memorising the RIN number) or
  making a pdf to keep the details.
 
  Â
 
  Just a small point on something I would like to be able to do!
 
  Â
 
  Marion
 
 
 
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[Jenny M Benson]

On 25/01/2014 11:41, 2marion wimps wrote:
 Joseph - I can see the idea of tagging is great but I already use tags 1
 - 3 so have used 6 - but I am now stumped where you say Now you can go
 back to the  Family view, and use the Individual Tag box in the lower
 right hand  corner of the window, to jump to the next Tag - the lower
 right hand corner is the Marriage Tag

The extreme right one is Marriage but the one next left to it is
Individual.  You can select which of the tags 1-9 you want it to cycle
through.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[JV Leavitt]

Thank you Jenny.  I've been away for a short while, and am glad that you
provided the answer.

I hope everyone knows how to do this. I use it for many other things.
Maybe, if all the tags are used up, a way could be found to move one of
them to a marriage tag, so as to free-up one of the regular tag numbers.
If you do need to see a list of marriage tags for some reason, you can
use the Detailed Search with 'Marriage' in the first condition, and
'Marriage Tag #'  'Equal To' - 'Tagged.'

Joseph Leavitt


On 1/25/2014 7:52 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 25/01/2014 11:41, 2marion wimps wrote:
 Joseph - I can see the idea of tagging is great but I already use tags 1
 - 3 so have used 6 - but I am now stumped where you say Now you can go
 back to the  Family view, and use the Individual Tag box in the lower
 right hand  corner of the window, to jump to the next Tag - the lower
 right hand corner is the Marriage Tag
 The extreme right one is Marriage but the one next left to it is
 Individual.  You can select which of the tags 1-9 you want it to cycle
 through.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[MikeFry]

On 25 Jan 2014 21:04, JV Leavitt wrote:

 I hope everyone knows how to do this. I use it for many other things.
 Maybe, if all the tags are used up, a way could be found to move one of
 them to a marriage tag, so as to free-up one of the regular tag numbers.

Individual tags mark individuals. Marriage tags mark Marriages. A marriage
involves 2 individuals.

For this reason, I don't think your suggestion will work.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[JV Leavitt]

Actually, I had been using one of my tag numbers for something that
could have been done with a marriage tag, but I just hadn't given it the
proper thought until I was desperate.  I had wanted one tag to indicate
that I had searched for everything I could find for children in a
family, and could not find any more for the present time.  If I didn't
have a tag for this, I might forget, and search for more again a few
days later.  :-)

I think you're right for any use other than for what might involve a
couple or entire family.

Joseph Leavitt



On 1/25/2014 2:09 PM, MikeFry wrote:
 On 25 Jan 2014 21:04, JV Leavitt wrote:

 I hope everyone knows how to do this. I use it for many other things.
 Maybe, if all the tags are used up, a way could be found to move one of
 them to a marriage tag, so as to free-up one of the regular tag numbers.
 Individual tags mark individuals. Marriage tags mark Marriages. A marriage
 involves 2 individuals.

 For this reason, I don't think your suggestion will work.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[JV Leavitt]

I just noticed these posts, and want to add a tip that will make this
process easier, and without printing a list of potential problems.

Notice that, on the first tab of the Potential Problems setup window,
there is an option to tag all the records found. I always use Tag 1 for
temporary lists like this, so I clear all Tag 1s and tic the box that
says Tag all problem records on tag #.

Make a list for only one potential problem at a time. Now click on
Preview, and get a list, which you can close. Now you can go back to the
Family view, and use the Individual Tag box in the lower right hand
corner of the window, to jump to the next Tag 1. Since only records with
one potential problem were tagged, you know that all those who have a
Tag 1 will be those with the potential problem you selected, and that is
what you will be looking to correct.

Repeat this process for other PPs you want to list. I usually make a
list first of many kinds of PPs, to find which ones I want to zero in
on, when using the process I have described here.

Using the Individual Tag box to jump to the next tag number makes this
process faster and easier than printing a list.

Joseph Leavitt


On 1/19/2014 5:34 PM, 2marion wimps wrote:
 Hi Boyd,
 Yes - I can do that - I can also delete items from the pdf file with
 my programme but it seems it would be so much simpler to have a button
 - as in the To Do List - where it says Go to this person. Often
 there are several errors that will be solved in one family, e.g. where
 one of the parents birth, marriage or death dates is incorrect most of
 the siblings are affected by the one correction. I have suggested that
 if this could be done on one screen it could probably be done on
 another. I shall wait and see.
 Thanks,
 Marion


 On 20 January 2014 03:13, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz
 mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote:

 I find the easiest way to deal with the list of potential problems
 is to create a text file, not a pdf.  By using ALT-TAB I can
 switch between the text file and database, and there is no need to
 remember the Rin for very long.  Then I just delete each item
 from the text file as it is dealt with. Any residual problems I
 can't resolve easily are the just copied to a file where I keep
 all my more difficult issues.
 Boyd
 On 20/01/2014 3:28 a.m., 2marion wimps wrote:
 Hi Tom,
 Â
 Thanks - have just done that - will keep my fingers crossed.
 Â
 Marion


 On 19 January 2014 20:36, Sysadm sys...@ntlworld.com
 mailto:sys...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Hi Marion,

 Â

 Sounds like a good idea, so put in a suggestion to the Legacy
 team about it.

 Â

 I had the same experience with the Master Locations List,
 where I wanted to ‘select’ an individual from the list
 and go straight to the Family View screen. It fell on deaf
 ears, but it has been ‘quietly’ introduced in Legacy 8.0
 by double clicking the individual in the list!

 Â

 Regards,

 Tom

 Â

 *From:*2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com
 mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 19 January 2014 07:41
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

 Â

 Am I missing a connection point on this or does it not work
 in the way I would like it - when in the Potential Problems
 List I appreciate you can edit the person, or the marriage or
 the parents but there seems to be no way to go to the Family
 View screen directly from the list without either closing the
 list and the search down (and memorising the RIN number) or
 making a pdf to keep the details.

 Â

 Just a small point on something I would like to be able to do!

 Â

 Marion








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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Bob Austen]

I have always used 'c birth date' for the birth when I only have a baptism 
date. 'Est' or 'Bef' work too.  However, Legacy doesn't always recognize this 
as a date, or may interpret it incorrectly.

Example PP:  If I have a baptism date of 13 May 1849 and use c 13 May 1849 as a 
birth date, the PP will pick up on the birth date when checking against other 
birthdates.  If I erred and had the birth as c 13 May 1859, baptism 13 May 1849 
there would be NO PP reported regarding Baptism.  If the birth was simply 13 
May 1859 and the baptism 13 May 1849 the Legacy would report 'Baptism before 
birth'.  So Legacy does look at Baptism dates but only seems to check them 
against the birth dates.

I prefer the use of 'c/Est/Bef Baptism date' for the birth, rather than leaving 
it blank.  I immediately know that it the baptism date.  With 13 May 1849 as 
the baptism example, I see others using 'May 1849' (and other variations) for 
the birth, which I find misleading.

Using 'c birth date' now appears to sort properly, however if there is a 
Baptism date and no Birth date the person will not sort by date in the index.

I have not tested Intelimerge in build 385 but I remember Intelimerge would not 
recognize a date with a 'c' in front of it - that is, two identical people with 
a birth date of 13 May 1849 would be recognized as being the same, but two with 
c 13 May 1849 would not.

Intelimerge will not look for a baptism date if the birth date is blank.

Bob Austen






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From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

Do an estimated birth date with est or bef as a date prefix.

A lot of baptisms are done on older children or adults. Sometimes the date is 
applicable, esp if it's a christening (naming of child done with sprinkling) 
shortly after birth) but many times it's not. My baptism was nearly 30 years 
after I was born! A gap would certainly show if the bap date was used, along 
with a born after the death of the mother and a too long after the marriage 
of the parents flag!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't have ANY birth dates - Only Baptism dates and the gaps are set
 to standard it appears that the PP does not look at Baptism dates in
 any form to help with gaps when there are no birthdates.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Bob Austen]

Hi Kathy,



I personally use c/Bef/Est 11 Aug 1789.  I find ‘About 1789’ or ‘1789’ 
misleading, as the birth could have been from days to years prior to baptism.



Bob



From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 8:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps



ok, so - as an example

baptism date of 12 Aug 1789

instead of putting birth as Before 11 Aug 1789

you would put either About 1789 or before 1789 or just 1789 ?



On 21 January 2014 14:16, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Kathy,

You have correctly identified my views and reservations.

All I can do is to confirm that I only ever use the before date and whole years 
in such cases, and will not change because of a new PP system.

Ron Ferguson
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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

I
s it possible to adjust the birth gap PP checking to include baptism
checking?

An example
I have a 1760's-1770's English family - kids are baptised and I have
baptism dates for them, but birth dates are unknown and always will be
unknown.
Found a new one today younger than the rest, put them in, and noticed they
slotted in to the wrong place in the birth order - I'd entered a baptism
date for the youngest previous one 10 years out in date.
If the PP indicators looked at baptism dates if no birth dates are entered,
that would have helped catch this sooner.

PP indicators are never going to replace - and never should replace -
personal checking of dates when entering - but I like that little alert
pop-up, it's very handy.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Ron Ferguson]

Kathy,

Have you looked at the PP birth gap?

If so you would have seen a little box with the gap on years - didn't you try 
changing it?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:

I
s it possible to adjust the birth gap PP checking to include baptism
checking?

An example
I have a 1760's-1770's English family - kids are baptised and I have
baptism dates for them, but birth dates are unknown and always will be
unknown.
Found a new one today younger than the rest, put them in, and noticed they
slotted in to the wrong place in the birth order - I'd entered a baptism
date for the youngest previous one 10 years out in date.
If the PP indicators looked at baptism dates if no birth dates are entered,
that would have helped catch this sooner.

PP indicators are never going to replace - and never should replace -
personal checking of dates when entering - but I like that little alert
pop-up, it's very handy.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

I don't have ANY birth dates - Only Baptism dates
and the gaps are set to standard
it appears that the PP does not look at Baptism dates in any form to help
with gaps when there are no birthdates.




On 21 January 2014 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 Have you looked at the PP birth gap?

 If so you would have seen a little box with the gap on years - didn't you
 try changing it?

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


 Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:

 I
 s it possible to adjust the birth gap PP checking to include baptism
 checking?

 An example
 I have a 1760's-1770's English family - kids are baptised and I have
 baptism dates for them, but birth dates are unknown and always will be
 unknown.
 Found a new one today younger than the rest, put them in, and noticed they
 slotted in to the wrong place in the birth order - I'd entered a baptism
 date for the youngest previous one 10 years out in date.
 If the PP indicators looked at baptism dates if no birth dates are
 entered, that would have helped catch this sooner.

 PP indicators are never going to replace - and never should replace -
 personal checking of dates when entering - but I like that little alert
 pop-up, it's very handy.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Ron Ferguson]

Kathy,

There cannot possibly be any standard for baptisms given the wide variations 
and varying practices (or none). Everyone does have a birthdate though.

I will however repeat my question - have you tried changing the birth gap?

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Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't have ANY birth dates - Only Baptism dates
and the gaps are set to standard
it appears that the PP does not look at Baptism dates in any form to help
with gaps when there are no birthdates.




On 21 January 2014 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 Have you looked at the PP birth gap?

 If so you would have seen a little box with the gap on years - didn't you
 try changing it?

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


 Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:

 I
 s it possible to adjust the birth gap PP checking to include baptism
 checking?

 An example
 I have a 1760's-1770's English family - kids are baptised and I have
 baptism dates for them, but birth dates are unknown and always will be
 unknown.
 Found a new one today younger than the rest, put them in, and noticed they
 slotted in to the wrong place in the birth order - I'd entered a baptism
 date for the youngest previous one 10 years out in date.
 If the PP indicators looked at baptism dates if no birth dates are
 entered, that would have helped catch this sooner.

 PP indicators are never going to replace - and never should replace -
 personal checking of dates when entering - but I like that little alert
 pop-up, it's very handy.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

what is the point of changing the birth gap when I Have NO BIRTHDATES


On 21 January 2014 12:53, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 There cannot possibly be any standard for baptisms given the wide
 variations and varying practices (or none). Everyone does have a birthdate
 though.

 I will however repeat my question - have you tried changing the birth gap?


 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't have ANY birth dates - Only Baptism dates
 and the gaps are set to standard
 it appears that the PP does not look at Baptism dates in any form to help
 with gaps when there are no birthdates.




 On 21 January 2014 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 Have you looked at the PP birth gap?

 If so you would have seen a little box with the gap on years - didn't you
 try changing it?

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


 Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:

 I
 s it possible to adjust the birth gap PP checking to include baptism
 checking?

 An example
 I have a 1760's-1770's English family - kids are baptised and I have
 baptism dates for them, but birth dates are unknown and always will be
 unknown.
 Found a new one today younger than the rest, put them in, and noticed
 they slotted in to the wrong place in the birth order - I'd entered a
 baptism date for the youngest previous one 10 years out in date.
 If the PP indicators looked at baptism dates if no birth dates are
 entered, that would have helped catch this sooner.

 PP indicators are never going to replace - and never should replace -
 personal checking of dates when entering - but I like that little alert
 pop-up, it's very handy.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

ok, something has been lost in transmission here.

I have no birthdates
I do have baptism dates
I am NOT get warnings of gaps for birthyears - because I have no birthdates
- and that is fine and expected
As such, I don't need to adjust gaps or turn of warnings or anything like
that.

What I am asking, is if it might be possible for the program to look at
baptism dated gaps IF and only if there are no birthdates.

I do not have a problem - I am merely asking if something is possible, in
order to help those who have to rely on parish registers to obtain any
evidence of a child's birth/baptism
Some counties include the birth date on the register - but that is not the
norm in the 1700's and earlier in England.
Thus, the only proof of child's name and the parents name and when they had
been born by, is a baptism date.

Make sense now? or am I still the only one who understands me



On 21 January 2014 13:01, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 Apologies, I did not appreciate that you do not have any birthdates at all.

 In such a case you may as well switch it off

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Ron Ferguson]

Kathy,

It made sense when I sent my last reply.

In a previous post I stated that given the wide variations between common 
baptism ages I cannot see how such a standard can be derived with any degree 
of accuracy.

If you can think of anything you could just make the deduction from the baptism 
date and put it in the birthdate as an EST date.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

that's what I guessed might have been your reasoning there, just wanted to
make sure.

but given the variations in ages at baptism - how does one make that
decision of how much time to deduct from a baptism date?

I'm not fond of having a specific date for baptism (12 Aug 1776) and having
a before date for birth (before 12 aug 1776) because then it shows up in
the children's listing as (bef 1776) - if I just have the baptism date it
has a clear date there (1776) and I know that I have that detail as
accurate as I can get it.
Before implies I still have more research to do to locate the date - 1776
England, I'd be very very surprised to find any precise birth date.

Death  burial is different of course - burial date of 12 jan 1789 means a
death date of about 11 jan 1789 - they arent going to have died in August
of 1788 to be buried in jan 1789 are they



On 21 January 2014 13:42, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 It made sense when I sent my last reply.

 In a previous post I stated that given the wide variations between common
 baptism ages I cannot see how such a standard can be derived with any
 degree of accuracy.

 If you can think of anything you could just make the deduction from the
 baptism date and put it in the birthdate as an EST date.

 Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

ahh yes of course - I dind't think of those extra flags - good point there
Sherry, thanks.


On 21 January 2014 14:05, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote:

 Do an estimated birth date with est or bef as a date prefix.

 A lot of baptisms are done on older children or adults. Sometimes the
 date is applicable, esp if it's a christening (naming of child done
 with sprinkling) shortly after birth) but many times it's not. My
 baptism was nearly 30 years after I was born! A gap would certainly
 show if the bap date was used, along with a born after the death of
 the mother and a too long after the marriage of the parents flag!


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I don't have ANY birth dates - Only Baptism dates
  and the gaps are set to standard
  it appears that the PP does not look at Baptism dates in any form to help
  with gaps when there are no birthdates.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Ron Ferguson]

Kathy,

You have correctly identified my views and reservations.

All I can do is to confirm that I only ever use the before date and whole years 
in such cases, and will not change because of a new PP system.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

ok, so - as an example

baptism date of 12 Aug 1789
instead of putting birth as Before 11 Aug 1789
you would put either About 1789 or before 1789 or just 1789 ?


On 21 January 2014 14:16, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 You have correctly identified my views and reservations.

 All I can do is to confirm that I only ever use the before date and whole
 years in such cases, and will not change because of a new PP system.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Ron Ferguson]

Kathy,

Please note that this is only *my* way and *not* a recommendation.

1st half year before 1789
2nd half year before 1790

Yes the second will throw up a PP, so I exempt it now.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems indicator regarding birth gaps

[Kathy Thompson]

understood - thanks for the insight Ron


On 21 January 2014 15:06, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Kathy,

 Please note that this is only *my* way and *not* a recommendation.

 1st half year before 1789
 2nd half year before 1790

 Yes the second will throw up a PP, so I exempt it now.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[2marion wimps]

Hi Tom,

Thanks - have just done that - will keep my fingers crossed.

Marion


On 19 January 2014 20:36, Sysadm sys...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Hi Marion,



 Sounds like a good idea, so put in a suggestion to the Legacy team about
 it.



 I had the same experience with the Master Locations List, where I wanted
 to ‘select’ an individual from the list and go straight to the Family View
 screen. It fell on deaf ears, but it has been ‘quietly’ introduced in
 Legacy 8.0 by double clicking the individual in the list!



 Regards,

 Tom



 *From:* 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 19 January 2014 07:41
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List



 Am I missing a connection point on this or does it not work in the way I
 would like it - when in the Potential Problems List I appreciate you can
 edit the person, or the marriage or the parents but there seems to be no
 way to go to the Family View screen directly from the list without either
 closing the list and the search down (and memorising the RIN number) or
 making a pdf to keep the details.



 Just a small point on something I would like to be able to do!



 Marion



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[Boyd Miller]

I find the easiest way to deal with the list of potential problems is to
create a text file, not a pdf.  By using ALT-TAB I can switch between
the text file and database, and there is no need to remember the Rin for
very long.  Then I just delete each item from the text file as it is
dealt with.  Any residual problems I can't resolve easily are the just
copied to a file where I keep all my more difficult issues.
Boyd
On 20/01/2014 3:28 a.m., 2marion wimps wrote:
 Hi Tom,
 Thanks - have just done that - will keep my fingers crossed.
 Marion


 On 19 January 2014 20:36, Sysadm sys...@ntlworld.com
 mailto:sys...@ntlworld.com wrote:

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 Sounds like a good idea, so put in a suggestion to the Legacy team
 about it.

 I had the same experience with the Master Locations List, where I
 wanted to ‘select’ an individual from the list and go straight to
 the Family View screen. It fell on deaf ears, but it has been
 ‘quietly’ introduced in Legacy 8.0 by double clicking the
 individual in the list!

 Regards,

 Tom

 *From:*2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com
 mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 19 January 2014 07:41
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

 Am I missing a connection point on this or does it not work in the
 way I would like it - when in the Potential Problems List I
 appreciate you can edit the person, or the marriage or the parents
 but there seems to be no way to go to the Family View screen
 directly from the list without either closing the list and the
 search down (and memorising the RIN number) or making a pdf to
 keep the details.

 Just a small point on something I would like to be able to do!

 Marion



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[2marion wimps]

Hi Boyd,
Yes - I can do that - I can also delete items from the pdf file with my
programme but it seems it would be so much simpler to have a button - as in
the To Do List - where it says Go to this person. Often there are several
errors that will be solved in one family, e.g. where one of the parents
birth, marriage or death dates is incorrect most of the siblings are
affected by the one correction. I have suggested that if this could be done
on one screen it could probably be done on another. I shall wait and see.
Thanks,
Marion


On 20 January 2014 03:13, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote:

  I find the easiest way to deal with the list of potential problems is to
 create a text file, not a pdf.  By using ALT-TAB I can switch between the
 text file and database, and there is no need to remember the Rin for very
 long.  Then I just delete each item from the text file as it is dealt
 with.  Any residual problems I can't resolve easily are the just copied to
 a file where I keep all my more difficult issues.
 Boyd
 On 20/01/2014 3:28 a.m., 2marion wimps wrote:

  Hi Tom,
 Â
 Thanks - have just done that - will keep my fingers crossed.
 Â
 Marion


 On 19 January 2014 20:36, Sysadm sys...@ntlworld.com wrote:

  Hi Marion,

 Â

 Sounds like a good idea, so put in a suggestion to the Legacy team about
 it.

 Â

 I had the same experience with the Master Locations List, where I wanted
 to ‘select’ an individual from the list and go straight to the Family
 View screen. It fell on deaf ears, but it has been ‘quietly’ introduced
 in Legacy 8.0 by double clicking the individual in the list!

 Â

 Regards,

 Tom

 Â

 *From:* 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 19 January 2014 07:41
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

 Â

 Am I missing a connection point on this or does it not work in the way I
 would like it - when in the Potential Problems List I appreciate you can
 edit the person, or the marriage or the parents but there seems to be no
 way to go to the Family View screen directly from the list without either
 closing the list and the search down (and memorising the RIN number) or
 making a pdf to keep the details.

 Â

 Just a small point on something I would like to be able to do!

 Â

 Marion



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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[2marion wimps]

Am I missing a connection point on this or does it not work in the way I
would like it - when in the Potential Problems List I appreciate you can
edit the person, or the marriage or the parents but there seems to be no
way to go to the Family View screen directly from the list without either
closing the list and the search down (and memorising the RIN number) or
making a pdf to keep the details.

Just a small point on something I would like to be able to do!

Marion



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[Douglas Tighe]

Hi All,

Thanks to you all for the responses, I have learnt a lot now on this
interesting Legacy way of handling CAPITOLS, and I have never used All
Capitols either but only what I enter.

Doug Tighe


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ian,

 No that is the way the Inital Caps option is
 meant to work. See the Help on it. Once you've
 put in one capital then the Intial Caps setting
 will save exactly what you typed.

 That's why I and many others work with the settings Don't change what I
 enter.

 It's too easy to automatically add a capital and then have a strange mix.

 Cathy

 At 09:42 AM 23/12/2013, you wrote:
 There's also a bug in names where if you accidently use a mix of upper
  lower case (ie john william Doe), it ignores preferences for
 capitalisation and leaves it exactly how it is.
 
 On 12/23/13, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
   Options - Customize 3.4 if set to Show Surnames in uppercase DOES NOT
   change how the data is stored, only how it is displayed.
  
   Curious ­ for Mc names the c is NOT capitalized.  This appears too be
   intentional, though does not extend to Mac names, de names, la names
 or le
   names.
  
   Applies to Family View, Pedigree View, Descendant View, Index View,
 Name
   List, Marriage List and possibly others.
  
   In Chronology View, it seems to only be applied to non-bolded names
 (this
   appears to be a bug).
  
   It does NOT apply to the Individual Information screen, where surname
 is
   displayed as entered/stored.
  
   For Reports, there are separate options for
  displaying surnames in uppercase
   under Report Options, Format Tab.
  
  
  
   Options - Customize 3.3 DOES change how the data is stored.  It only
   affects newly entered data unless you click the Apply button which then
   changes existing data.
  
   This option needs to used with great care.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[David Abernathy]

If one types in the CORRECT case of the surname, then when the “Show all caps” 
is used and then turned off, the same case as typed should be displayed.

It may NOT always happen, that is why I never use the All caps for any surname, 
and there is NO rule that I shall or should, use them.



Thanks,

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From: Douglas Tighe [mailto:littlehand...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames



How do you easily fix the problem of, if you change to  ALL CAPITALS then if 
you convert back to first letter capitols only surnames commencing with MacZyz 
or McXyz the x and y will be in lower case, and it should not be.

Hopefully you understand what I am getting about.



Regards

Doug Tighe




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[Ian Gardener]

There's also a bug in names where if you accidently use a mix of upper
 lower case (ie john william Doe), it ignores preferences for
capitalisation and leaves it exactly how it is.

On 12/23/13, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Options - Customize 3.4 if set to Show Surnames in uppercase DOES NOT
 change how the data is stored, only how it is displayed.

 Curious – for Mc names the c is NOT capitalized.  This appears to be
 intentional, though does not extend to Mac names, de names, la names or le
 names.

 Applies to Family View, Pedigree View, Descendant View, Index View, Name
 List, Marriage List and possibly others.

 In Chronology View, it seems to only be applied to non-bolded names (this
 appears to be a bug).

 It does NOT apply to the Individual Information screen, where surname is
 displayed as entered/stored.

 For Reports, there are separate options for displaying surnames in uppercase
 under Report Options, Format Tab.



 Options - Customize 3.3 DOES change how the data is stored.  It only
 affects newly entered data unless you click the Apply button which then
 changes existing data.

 This option needs to used with great care.



 From: David Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com]
 Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:23 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames



 If one types in the CORRECT case of the surname, then when the “Show all
 caps” is used and then turned off, the same case as typed should be
 displayed.

 It may NOT always happen, that is why I never use the All caps for any
 surname, and there is NO rule that I shall or should, use them.



 Thanks,

 David C Abernathy

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 From: Douglas Tighe [mailto:littlehand...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:04 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames



 How do you easily fix the problem of, if you change to  ALL CAPITALS then
 if you convert back to first letter capitols only surnames commencing with
 MacZyz or McXyz the x and y will be in lower case, and it should not be.

 Hopefully you understand what I am getting about.



 Regards

 Doug Tighe



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems red dot not visable any more

[Brian/Support]

You also have to tell Legacy which potential problems to check.

Go to Tools  Potential Problems
Review the tabs there and place check marks in the issues you want
Legacy to check.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 20/12/2013 8:34 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
 Hi.
 Finally able to purchase the update Legacy 8 and then today have
 downloaded the update version 8.0.0.364 and now I have no potential
 problems little red Dot. I was slowly going through them but since the
 update they seem to have disappeared.  I've checked the
 options/customize/view 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems (ff) and ticked
 the box but still no red dot.
 Can someone let me know if this is supposed to disappear or have I
 unchecked something I shouldn't have?

 Thanks in advance
 Kim
 P.S.   I just love the new upgrade, it's like have a new program all
 over again.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Ian,

No that is the way the Inital Caps option is
meant to work. See the Help on it. Once you've
put in one capital then the Intial Caps setting
will save exactly what you typed.

That's why I and many others work with the settings Don't change what I enter.

It's too easy to automatically add a capital and then have a strange mix.

Cathy

At 09:42 AM 23/12/2013, you wrote:
There's also a bug in names where if you accidently use a mix of upper
 lower case (ie john william Doe), it ignores preferences for
capitalisation and leaves it exactly how it is.

On 12/23/13, Kurt Kneeland kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  Options - Customize 3.4 if set to Show Surnames in uppercase DOES NOT
  change how the data is stored, only how it is displayed.
 
  Curious ­ for Mc names the c is NOT capitalized.  This appears too be
  intentional, though does not extend to Mac names, de names, la names or le
  names.
 
  Applies to Family View, Pedigree View, Descendant View, Index View, Name
  List, Marriage List and possibly others.
 
  In Chronology View, it seems to only be applied to non-bolded names (this
  appears to be a bug).
 
  It does NOT apply to the Individual Information screen, where surname is
  displayed as entered/stored.
 
  For Reports, there are separate options for
 displaying surnames in uppercase
  under Report Options, Format Tab.
 
 
 
  Options - Customize 3.3 DOES change how the data is stored.  It only
  affects newly entered data unless you click the Apply button which then
  changes existing data.
 
  This option needs to used with great care.




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[LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[Steve]

I have updated to build 8.0.0.367 and am using the deluxe version on win 7.  I 
have updated in sequence.

I have:
8.11 potential problems display set to OFF
3.3 letter case for surnames set to ALL CAPS

In the pedigree view when I change the focus, I have the PP icon come on and 
the problem is the surname is all capitals.

Anyone else have this as I cannot understand the logic why this is highlighted 
as a potential problem?

Ran check/repair and compacted the DB.

Also the response in family view has slowed right down again, it was OK before 
364 update, some click to change times up to 3 seconds.

Steve


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[JV Leavitt]

A person normally does not enter surnames as all capitals.  They can be
set to display that way if desired.  If they are entered as all caps
then a potential problem is shown, but it is my understanding, that any
individual kind of pp can be disabled, though I haven't tried it
myself.  I think you right-click on the little red button that alerts
you to the pp.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/21/2013 3:55 AM, Steve wrote:
 I have updated to build 8.0.0.367 and am using the deluxe version on
 win 7.  I have updated in sequence.
 I have:
 8.11 potential problems display set to OFF
 3.3 letter case for surnames set to ALL CAPS
 In the pedigree view when I change the focus, I have the PP icon come
 on and the problem is the surname is all capitals.
 Anyone else have this as I cannot understand the logic why this is
 highlighted as a potential problem?
 Ran check/repair and compacted the DB.
 Also the response in family view has slowed right down again, it was
 OK before 364 update, some click to change times up to 3 seconds.
 Steve





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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[Brian/Support]

Confirmed. Problem report raised to have this fixed.

Go to Tools, Potential Problems
On the Standardization tab turn OFF the check for surnames in all uppercase.
That should stop the display of that PP icon.

Brian
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On 21/12/2013 6:55 AM, Steve wrote:
 I have updated to build 8.0.0.367 and am using the deluxe version on win 7.  
 I have updated in sequence.

 I have:
 8.11 potential problems display set to OFF
 3.3 letter case for surnames set to ALL CAPS

 In the pedigree view when I change the focus, I have the PP icon come on and 
 the problem is the surname is all capitals.

 Anyone else have this as I cannot understand the logic why this is 
 highlighted as a potential problem?

 Ran check/repair and compacted the DB.

 Also the response in family view has slowed right down again, it was OK 
 before 364 update, some click to change times up to 3 seconds.

 Steve


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems and capital surnames

[Douglas Tighe]

How do you easily fix the problem of, if you change to  ALL CAPITALS then
if you convert back to first letter capitols only surnames commencing with
MacZyz or McXyz the x and y will be in lower case, and it should not be.
Hopefully you understand what I am getting about.

Regards
Doug Tighe


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Steve sp.tomlin...@btinternet.com wrote:

   I have updated to build 8.0.0.367 and am using the deluxe version on
 win 7.  I have updated in sequence.

 I have:
 8.11 potential problems display set to OFF
 3.3 letter case for surnames set to ALL CAPS

 In the pedigree view when I change the focus, I have the PP icon come on
 and the problem is the surname is all capitals.

 Anyone else have this as I cannot understand the logic why this is
 highlighted as a potential problem?

 Ran check/repair and compacted the DB.

 Also the response in family view has slowed right down again, it was OK
 before 364 update, some click to change times up to 3 seconds.

 Steve


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[LegacyUG] potential problems red dot not visable any more

[Kim Jones]

Hi.
Finally able to purchase the update Legacy 8 and then today have
downloaded the update version 8.0.0.364 and now I have no potential
problems little red Dot. I was slowly going through them but since the
update they seem to have disappeared.  I've checked the
options/customize/view 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems (ff) and ticked
the box but still no red dot.
Can someone let me know if this is supposed to disappear or have I
unchecked something I shouldn't have?

Thanks in advance
Kim
P.S.   I just love the new upgrade, it's like have a new program all
over again.



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[LegacyUG] potential problems and events

[Mary LeClerc]

I have things like obituary, burial (cemetery), funeral, etc. set up as
events and of course there date  follows the date of death, making them
show up as potential problems.
Two questions...
Is there a way to globally turn off event after death as a potential
problem?

Why, when I right click and check event after death to exclude it as a PP
on an individual record, does it continue to show up?

I've looked and looked and wonder if I am missing something or
misunderstanding.

Thanks,
Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems and events

[Leon Chapman]

Mary:

The trick is to Edit the Event for the person in Family View, and then at
the bottom of event window, choose to Edit Event Sentence Definition,
then in the top portion of the window, check the box Exclude from
Potential Problems Report, then Save, Save, Save to get back to family
view.

I have done a similar thing by creating my own event name - Tombstone,
etc.  So, for each new type of event you create, you may have to be
concerned about PP.

Chap

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Mary LeClerc quiltingm...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have things like obituary, burial (cemetery), funeral, etc. set up as
 events and of course there date  follows the date of death, making them
 show up as potential problems.
 Two questions...
 Is there a way to globally turn off event after death as a potential
 problem?

 Why, when I right click and check event after death to exclude it as a
 PP on an individual record, does it continue to show up?

 I've looked and looked and wonder if I am missing something or
 misunderstanding.

 Thanks,
 Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems and events

[Leon Chapman]

Mary:


If you want to make this a global change for a Tombstone, obituary, burial,
etc event, in the top level menu, go to
1.  View Tab,
2.  then Master Lists
3.  then Event Definitions

Select the event you want to exclude from PP reports and click Edit to
edit the event definition.

At the top middle of the window, you can place a check mark on Exclude
from PP report.

Save this event definition and close and you are back in Legacy where you
started (family view).

This should prevent the Tombstone, Obituary, or whatever event you have
selected to exclude from giving you a red circle.

This is the best way, since you are editing the characteristics at the
global level for the event.

My previous message works for just that one person.

Hope this helps.
Chap



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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Mary LeClerc quiltingm...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have things like obituary, burial (cemetery), funeral, etc. set up as
 events and of course there date  follows the date of death, making them
 show up as potential problems.
 Two questions...
 Is there a way to globally turn off event after death as a potential
 problem?

 Why, when I right click and check event after death to exclude it as a
 PP on an individual record, does it continue to show up?

 I've looked and looked and wonder if I am missing something or
 misunderstanding.

 Thanks,
 Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems and events

[Mary LeClerc]

I should clarify.
After selecting to exclude events that occur after death, they no longer
show up on a printed report, but the problem icon still appears on the
individual screen.  I find that odd, but guess I have to live with it?



On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Mary LeClerc quiltingm...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have things like obituary, burial (cemetery), funeral, etc. set up as
 events and of course there date  follows the date of death, making them
 show up as potential problems.
 Two questions...
 Is there a way to globally turn off event after death as a potential
 problem?

 Why, when I right click and check event after death to exclude it as a
 PP on an individual record, does it continue to show up?

 I've looked and looked and wonder if I am missing something or
 misunderstanding.

 Thanks,
 Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems and events

[Mary LeClerc]

thank you, thank you, thank you.  I should have been able to figure that
out, but didn't so you've made my day.

Mary



On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mary:


 If you want to make this a global change for a Tombstone, obituary,
 burial, etc event, in the top level menu, go to
 1.  View Tab,
 2.  then Master Lists
 3.  then Event Definitions

 Select the event you want to exclude from PP reports and click Edit to
 edit the event definition.

 At the top middle of the window, you can place a check mark on Exclude
 from PP report.

 Save this event definition and close and you are back in Legacy where you
 started (family view).

 This should prevent the Tombstone, Obituary, or whatever event you have
 selected to exclude from giving you a red circle.

 This is the best way, since you are editing the characteristics at the
 global level for the event.

 My previous message works for just that one person.

 Hope this helps.
 Chap



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 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Mary LeClerc quiltingm...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have things like obituary, burial (cemetery), funeral, etc. set up as
 events and of course there date  follows the date of death, making them
 show up as potential problems.
 Two questions...
 Is there a way to globally turn off event after death as a potential
 problem?

 Why, when I right click and check event after death to exclude it as a
 PP on an individual record, does it continue to show up?

 I've looked and looked and wonder if I am missing something or
 misunderstanding.

 Thanks,
 Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Jenny MacKay]

I'm having the same problem. I emailed support and they said it was a bug,
but no fix as yet in the last few updates. Guess they're flat out. I
stopped fixing them as I couldn't see a way to do it globally. I might try
the first letter caps, that someone suggested and see if that works.

Jenny

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013, Jennifer Crockett wrote:

 Oh - I see.
 Well I have always used all capitals for surnames. Occasionally it is not
 clear otherwise which is the surname.

 Regards,

 Jennifer


 -Original Message-
 From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com javascript:;]
 Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 4:02 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

 Surnames in all capitals look strange to them and they wonder at our
 bad grammar rather than thinking about why we may have done that. ;-)

 Cathy

 At 12:36 PM 17/12/2013, you wrote:
 Cathy,
 
 Non-genealogists don't get what?
 
 Regards,
 
 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com javascript:;]
 Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 2:26 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase
 
 You don't get rid of the PP alerts for all capital surnames by
 changing the option at 3.3.
 
 You get rid of it by changing the PP conditions you check for.
 
 
 That said, I think these days it's best to enter in Mixed case and
 then use the option to display or report in All Capitals when that's
 appropriate. Non-genealogists don't get it.





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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Terry Montgomery]

I use Legacy v8 Deluxe
Windows 8

I have always put surnames in Uppercase. I thought that was the proper
thing to do.
Legacy allows you to specify that this will always happen.
But then it will flag a potential problem. This happens regardless of
whether you have Uppercase surnames on or off.
You can tell Legacy on a case-by-case basis that a particular problem is
not a problem, but can I tell it that all uppercase is never a problem?
Not even a potential one.

Terry Montgomery




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[singhals]

Terry Montgomery wrote:
 I use Legacy v8 Deluxe
 Windows 8

 I have always put surnames in Uppercase. I thought that was the proper
 thing to do.
 Legacy allows you to specify that this will always happen.
 But then it will flag a potential problem. This happens regardless of
 whether you have Uppercase surnames on or off.
 You can tell Legacy on a case-by-case basis that a particular problem is
 not a problem, but can I tell it that all uppercase is never a problem?
 Not even a potential one.

If you input the surname in mixed-case and display it in
CAPS, the program will not think it is a problem.

Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Kurt Kneeland]

And it is easy to change globally.  Options-Customize 3.3 select Initial Caps 
- Apply.  The Apply will change all your current to the new setting.  Then 
option 3.4 set to Display Uppercase.  You can have it the way you like it and 
no Potential Problem flags.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

Terry Montgomery wrote:
 I use Legacy v8 Deluxe
 Windows 8

 I have always put surnames in Uppercase. I thought that was the proper
 thing to do.
 Legacy allows you to specify that this will always happen.
 But then it will flag a potential problem. This happens regardless of
 whether you have Uppercase surnames on or off.
 You can tell Legacy on a case-by-case basis that a particular problem
 is not a problem, but can I tell it that all uppercase is never a problem?
 Not even a potential one.

If you input the surname in mixed-case and display it in CAPS, the program will 
not think it is a problem.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[jjkith]

I, also, cannot get my surnames  in uppercase to stick.   Have done the
options for Global change multiple times and  still get the dreaded red
Potential problems button. LOL
JS
AZ




On 12/16/2013 4:33 PM, Kurt Kneeland wrote:
 And it is easy to change globally.  Options-Customize 3.3 select Initial 
 Caps - Apply.  The Apply will change all your current to the new setting.  
 Then option 3.4 set to Display Uppercase.  You can have it the way you like 
 it and no Potential Problem flags.

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:10 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

 Terry Montgomery wrote:
 I use Legacy v8 Deluxe
 Windows 8

 I have always put surnames in Uppercase. I thought that was the proper
 thing to do.
 Legacy allows you to specify that this will always happen.
 But then it will flag a potential problem. This happens regardless of
 whether you have Uppercase surnames on or off.
 You can tell Legacy on a case-by-case basis that a particular problem
 is not a problem, but can I tell it that all uppercase is never a problem?
 Not even a potential one.
 If you input the surname in mixed-case and display it in CAPS, the program 
 will not think it is a problem.

 Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Cathy Pinner]

You don't get rid of the PP alerts for all capital surnames by
changing the option at 3.3.

You get rid of it by changing the PP conditions you check for.

There are various ways to get to these. One way - Tools Ribbon -
Potential Problems.

Standardisation Tab - last option: untick Surname entered as all Uppercase.

If that doesn't work, it's a bug - so put in a bug report.

That said, I think these days it's best to enter in Mixed case and
then use the option to display or report in All Capitals when that's
appropriate. Non-genealogists don't get it.

Cathy

At 07:59 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote:
I, also, cannot get my surnames  in uppercase to stick.   Have done the
options for Global change multiple times and  still get the dreaded red
Potential problems button. LOL
JS
AZ




On 12/16/2013 4:33 PM, Kurt Kneeland wrote:
  And it is easy to change globally.  Options-Customize 3.3 select
 Initial Caps - Apply.  The Apply will change all your current to
 the new setting.  Then option 3.4 set to Display Uppercase.  You
 can have it the way you like it and no Potential Problem flags.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:10 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase
 
  Terry Montgomery wrote:
  I use Legacy v8 Deluxe
  Windows 8
 
  I have always put surnames in Uppercase. I thought that was the proper
  thing to do.
  Legacy allows you to specify that this will always happen.
  But then it will flag a potential problem. This happens regardless of
  whether you have Uppercase surnames on or off.
  You can tell Legacy on a case-by-case basis that a particular problem
  is not a problem, but can I tell it that all uppercase is never a problem?
  Not even a potential one.
  If you input the surname in mixed-case and display it in CAPS,
 the program will not think it is a problem.
 
  Cheryl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Jennifer Crockett]

Cathy,

Non-genealogists don't get what?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 2:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

You don't get rid of the PP alerts for all capital surnames by
changing the option at 3.3.

You get rid of it by changing the PP conditions you check for.


That said, I think these days it's best to enter in Mixed case and
then use the option to display or report in All Capitals when that's
appropriate. Non-genealogists don't get it.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Cathy Pinner]

Surnames in all capitals look strange to them and they wonder at our
bad grammar rather than thinking about why we may have done that. ;-)

Cathy

At 12:36 PM 17/12/2013, you wrote:
Cathy,

Non-genealogists don't get what?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 2:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

You don't get rid of the PP alerts for all capital surnames by
changing the option at 3.3.

You get rid of it by changing the PP conditions you check for.


That said, I think these days it's best to enter in Mixed case and
then use the option to display or report in All Capitals when that's
appropriate. Non-genealogists don't get it.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

[Jennifer Crockett]

Oh - I see.
Well I have always used all capitals for surnames. Occasionally it is not clear 
otherwise which is the surname.

Regards,

Jennifer


-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 4:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

Surnames in all capitals look strange to them and they wonder at our
bad grammar rather than thinking about why we may have done that. ;-)

Cathy

At 12:36 PM 17/12/2013, you wrote:
Cathy,

Non-genealogists don't get what?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 2:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems: Surname all Uppercase

You don't get rid of the PP alerts for all capital surnames by
changing the option at 3.3.

You get rid of it by changing the PP conditions you check for.


That said, I think these days it's best to enter in Mixed case and
then use the option to display or report in All Capitals when that's
appropriate. Non-genealogists don't get it.





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[LegacyUG] potential problems red dot not visable any more

[Kim Jones]

Hi.
Finally able to purchase the update Legacy 8 and then today have
downloaded the update version 8.0.0.364 and now I have no potential
problems little red Dot. I was slowly going through them but since the
update they seem to have disappeared.  I've checked the
options/customize/view 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems (ff) and ticked
the box but still no red dot.
Can someone let me know if this is supposed to disappear or have I
unchecked something I shouldn't have?

Thanks in advance
Kim
P.S.   I just love the new upgrade, it's like have a new program all
over again.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[Michele/Support]

Kathy,

Tools  Potential Problems

Under Warnings
Warn if burial date us more than   days after death

I have mine set at 30 (default).  This catches the typos like when some died in 
1850 but you accidentally have them buried in 1860.  The only times this one 
will be a problem is when you are dealing with people that aren't buried for 
months up north because of the frozen ground.  In that case, you can uncheck 
the box completely or put it at a higher number than 30 days


Under Problems
Buried date before death date

This one definitely catches the typos :)


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
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From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 10:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to record 
the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium name and 
resulting location within the cemtery.
I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that ends 
up at the end of any report.
Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the 
person died, but other than that it's fine.
My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from 
Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok.
I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have 
regarding death  funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc etc.
Can anyone advise please?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/11/30 14:50, Michele/Support wrote:

 Under Problems
 Buried date before death date

 This one definitely catches the typos:)

Gives false positives when there's an actual burial date but the only death date
has been taken from the GRO in England and entered as Mmm Q . Even though
the quarter covers the burial date, the program still thinks the burial is
before the death.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[Kathy Thompson]

Doesn't work for custom events though Michele.
I don't want to have the cemetery name in the place location, so I need a 
custom event to put it, thus it becomes an event that occurs outside of the 
lifespan of the individual.
I've excluded that event from the PP report for now.

Kathy

On 30/11/2013, at 10:50 PM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

 Kathy,

 Tools  Potential Problems

 Under Warnings
 Warn if burial date us more than   days after death

 I have mine set at 30 (default).  This catches the typos like when some died 
 in 1850 but you accidentally have them buried in 1860.  The only times this 
 one will be a problem is when you are dealing with people that aren't buried 
 for months up north because of the frozen ground.  In that case, you can 
 uncheck the box completely or put it at a higher number than 30 days


 Under Problems
 Buried date before death date

 This one definitely catches the typos :)


 Michele
 Technical Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 10:55 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

 I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to record 
 the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium name and 
 resulting location within the cemtery.
 I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that ends 
 up at the end of any report.
 Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the 
 person died, but other than that it's fine.
 My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from 
 Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok.
 I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have 
 regarding death  funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc etc.
 Can anyone advise please?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[John B. Lisle]

Mike,

I am doing two one name studies that are heavily UK, and I am not in
the position, like many of us, to order a certificate for every BMD
event I can use in my study. So, I wanted to create a protocol for
recording vital event information based just on the BMD registration
information and make sure that it was clear visually that this
registration info was the source of the vital event information.

I have created a series of events: Birth, Marriage, and Death
Registrations. This is where I record the UK BMD registration records.

Unless I have a better date for the actual birth, marriage or death,
I will use those registration Q dates for birth, marriage, and death.
BUT, if I have a more accurate date, I will use the more accurate date.

-- When I record a Registration event, I use the Registration
District (RD) as the location. If I use a registration date for a
vital event date, I will also use the RD location as the vital event
location, unless I have a better location from census or elsewhere.

For instance, if I have a baptism date, I will record the birth dates
as before baptism date, unless the birth registration date was in
a previous quarter to the baptism date.

I will follow a similar protocol with a death date if I have a burial date.

If I have a death date, I record a burial date as an after death
date (unless I have the burial date) so that date field is not empty
and chronology reports are accurate.

Yes, when a death date is a Q date, a burial date cannot be created
using this approach.

Yes, the death registration event is setup so it is not included in a
problem report as it logically should always be after death.

BTW, a lot of work went into assuring that the Q dates and other
approximate dates do the right thing when doing PP Alerts. There may
be some conditions we did not test and some that logically could
never be 100% right, but we have definitely minimized the number of
cases where users will need to do the exclusions and the number of
cases where you miss a problem that should have been caught.

john.

At 08:19 AM 11/30/2013, Mike Fry wrote:
On 2013/11/30 14:50, Michele/Support wrote:

  Under Problems
  Buried date before death date
 
  This one definitely catches the typos:)

Gives false positives when there's an actual burial date but the
only death date
has been taken from the GRO in England and entered as Mmm Q . Even though
the quarter covers the burial date, the program still thinks the burial is
before the death.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)




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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[Kathy Thompson]

I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me to
record the Burial/Internment location including the cemetery/crematorium
name and resulting location within the cemtery.
I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as that
ends up at the end of any report.

Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days after the
person died, but other than that it's fine.

My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the Exclude from
Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok.

I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles I have
regarding death  funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In Memoriums etc
etc.

Can anyone advise please?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Kathy,

When a whole Event type is going to be out of the life range of the
person, then you change the Event Sentence Definition. Click the
button for Edit Event Sentence Definition and then check the box -
Exclude from Potential Problems Report.

Done

If you have Event Types that are mixed, then you have to exclude the
events you don't want checked one by one.

When editing an Event you will notice at the bottom of the screen a
new checkbox.
Exclude this instance of this event from problem checking

Cathy

At 11:55 AM 30/11/2013, you wrote:
I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me
to record the Burial/Internment location including the
cemetery/crematorium name and resulting location within the cemtery.
I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as
that ends up at the end of any report.

Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days
after the person died, but other than that it's fine.

My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the
Exclude from Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok.

I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles
I have regarding death  funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In
Memoriums etc etc.

Can anyone advise please?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - Event Date Out of Range

[Kathy Thompson]

Oh of course - thanks Cathy


On 30 November 2013 14:07, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kathy,

 When a whole Event type is going to be out of the life range of the
 person, then you change the Event Sentence Definition. Click the
 button for Edit Event Sentence Definition and then check the box -
 Exclude from Potential Problems Report.

 Done

 If you have Event Types that are mixed, then you have to exclude the
 events you don't want checked one by one.

 When editing an Event you will notice at the bottom of the screen a
 new checkbox.
 Exclude this instance of this event from problem checking

 Cathy

 At 11:55 AM 30/11/2013, you wrote:
 I'm getting the little red PP icon on a custom event that allows me
 to record the Burial/Internment location including the
 cemetery/crematorium name and resulting location within the cemtery.
 I didn't like them within the default Burial/Cremated Notes area as
 that ends up at the end of any report.
 
 Anyway, this date isn't exactly out of range, yes it's 3 days
 after the person died, but other than that it's fine.
 
 My issue though is that I don't know which box to tick in the
 Exclude from Potential Problems pop-up to say that this date is ok.
 
 I know I'm going to need this because of the many newspaper articles
 I have regarding death  funeral notices, inquests into deaths, In
 Memoriums etc etc.
 
 Can anyone advise please?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Flags and Options for Legacy 8 [was: Font Size]

[John B. Lisle]

Lloyd,

Yes, if you do not want to see all of the PP flags, turn off Option 8.11.

The ability to exclude items as problems has been significantly
enhanced and an additional category of problems Gaps has been added.

I would like to point users to the last note on the Help page
Potential Problems Report under the Standardization Tab. We have a
new way to exclude specific terms you may use for Unknown surnames or
given names from PP checking.

Please note some important differences in handling options in Legacy 8.

1/ All of the Options are now numbered so you can communicate easily
which option you are talking about. Please note that on the Customize
menu, the last item is an index of all of the options so you can find
the one you are looking for quickly.

2/ Some of the options are global, and some are for specific to the
family file you are currently using. Option 8.11 is per Family File
(ff) so you can decide for each of your family files if you need PP
alerting or not.

Possibly a more important use of this is 6.2 Default location of
media files. If you have multiple family files, you can have a
default location for media for each of your ff.

Current users amy want to look over all of the options and decide how
you want to operate and then click on Options for Default Settings
and save your personal defaults. Those defaults will then be
installed whenever you create a new Family File.

A general concept about Legacy 8 is that it has been implemented so
that the new or beginning user can operate without having to do a lot
of customization. Just install and go. But, as you become more
experienced, you have lots of flexibility to tune Legacy to your
specific needs. And an advanced or power user can tune it for high
productivity.

Does this help?

john.

At 02:15 PM 11/26/2013, Lloyd Hite wrote:
Hello List,
Will I be able to increase the font size in the Deluxe Version? I cannot
increase it in the Standard Version. Also, is there a global setting to
get rid of all the potential problem flags in the data?

Thank you,
Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report - Column Width

[Brian/Support]

This is a know problem with Legacy 7.5 and has been recorded in our
problem tracking system.

Brian
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Thanks.

On 10/11/2013 10:13 PM, John Groome wrote:
 I have run several potential problem reports over the last few days and
 it appears that the layout/format cannot be altered to suit the user.

 In column two, which reports on the individual full name together with
 the corresponding RIN (why? the RIN is already in column 1), if the
 record length is greater than the column width the wrap continues to the
 next line but is then overwritten by the following record.

 Is there any way that the user can adjust the widths to suit or is this
 a bug?

 Regards
 John Groome
 Upper Hutt, NZ


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report - Column Width

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/11/2013 03:13, John Groome wrote:
 I have run several potential problem reports over the last few days and
 it appears that the layout/format cannot be altered to suit the user.

 In column two, which reports on the individual full name together with
 the corresponding RIN (why? the RIN is already in column 1), if the
 record length is greater than the column width the wrap continues to the
 next line but is then overwritten by the following record.

 Is there any way that the user can adjust the widths to suit or is this
 a bug?

That's odd.  I just ran a Potential Problems Report (had to create a few
problems first!) and the RIN was listed first, then the name without RIN
and then the problem on the line underneath.  Underneath that the next
entry and so on.  No problem!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report - Column Width

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/11/11 05:13, John Groome wrote:

 In column two, which reports on the individual full name together with the
 corresponding RIN (why? the RIN is already in column 1), if the record length 
 is
 greater than the column width the wrap continues to the next line but is then
 overwritten by the following record.

I can answer this one, about the duplicated RIN - See Customise-- View--
Display Numbers on Names

You've probably got On all Name Lists checked :-)

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report - Column Width

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/11/11 05:13, John Groome wrote:

 In column two, which reports on the individual full name together with the
 corresponding RIN (why? the RIN is already in column 1), if the record length 
 is
 greater than the column width the wrap continues to the next line but is then
 overwritten by the following record.

Check your Page Setup for the report. I can only cause your problem selecting an
A5 page i.e. a small page width.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report - Column Width

[John Groome]

Thanks Jenny and Mike,

Mike - your suggestion re on all names lists cracked the problem!

Regards




On 11 November 2013 23:58, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2013/11/11 05:13, John Groome wrote:

  In column two, which reports on the individual full name together with
 the
  corresponding RIN (why? the RIN is already in column 1), if the record
 length is
  greater than the column width the wrap continues to the next line but is
 then
  overwritten by the following record.

 Check your Page Setup for the report. I can only cause your problem
 selecting an
 A5 page i.e. a small page width.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems Report - Column Width

[John Groome]

I have run several potential problem reports over the last few days and it
appears that the layout/format cannot be altered to suit the user.

In column two, which reports on the individual full name together with the
corresponding RIN (why? the RIN is already in column 1), if the record
length is greater than the column width the wrap continues to the next line
but is then overwritten by the following record.

Is there any way that the user can adjust the widths to suit or is this a
bug?

Regards
John Groome
Upper Hutt, NZ



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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[Fred Lindsay]

Hi All:  When I open the 'Potential Problem' window, select 'Create Problems 
List', the Progress Bar reaches 100% with no difficulty.  I select 'Preview' 
and then the title bar for the window indicates (Not Responding).  If I close 
out the window, there is a message that Legacy has stopped working.  Sometimes 
it stops seconds after the Progress Bar reaches 100%.  I can not find any 
reference to this particular problem in the Archives.  I have rebooted the 
computer, run File Maintenance (none indicated).  I'm using Windows 7 and have 
the latest version of Legacy.   Creating a Potential Problem list in the recent 
past has been successfull.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.Regards to 
allFred Lindsay



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[Sherry/Support]

Fred,


First, with Legacy closed, go to the Legacy folder on your hard drive.
Delete the RptProbs.usr and ProbsList.usr files.  If that doesn't
help, go back to the folder, delete the two files again and then go to
the c:\Legacy\Data folder (or whichever folder you have your Family
File stored in) and delete the .PPL file (it has the same first name
as your Family File).  Then update to the latest build of Legacy if
you don't already have it.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Fred Lindsay fredlind...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hi All:
   When I open the 'Potential Problem' window, select 'Create Problems List',
 the Progress Bar reaches 100% with no difficulty.  I select 'Preview' and
 then the title bar for the window indicates (Not Responding).  If I close
 out the window, there is a message that Legacy has stopped working.
 Sometimes it stops seconds after the Progress Bar reaches 100%.
   I can not find any reference to this particular problem in the Archives.
 I have rebooted the computer, run File Maintenance (none indicated).  I'm
 using Windows 7 and have the latest version of Legacy.
Creating a Potential Problem list in the recent past has been
 successfull.
   Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 Regards to all
 Fred Lindsay



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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List

[Fred Lindsay]

Thanks for your help Sherry, I'm cooking dinner right now so will try that if I 
can find someone to do the dishes.Fred
  From: she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems List
 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:38:49 -0700

 Fred,


 First, with Legacy closed, go to the Legacy folder on your hard drive.
 Delete the RptProbs.usr and ProbsList.usr files.  If that doesn't
 help, go back to the folder, delete the two files again and then go to
 the c:\Legacy\Data folder (or whichever folder you have your Family
 File stored in) and delete the .PPL file (it has the same first name
 as your Family File).  Then update to the latest build of Legacy if
 you don't already have it.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Fred Lindsay fredlind...@sympatico.ca 
 wrote:
  Hi All:
When I open the 'Potential Problem' window, select 'Create Problems List',
  the Progress Bar reaches 100% with no difficulty.  I select 'Preview' and
  then the title bar for the window indicates (Not Responding).  If I close
  out the window, there is a message that Legacy has stopped working.
  Sometimes it stops seconds after the Progress Bar reaches 100%.
I can not find any reference to this particular problem in the Archives.
  I have rebooted the computer, run File Maintenance (none indicated).  I'm
  using Windows 7 and have the latest version of Legacy.
 Creating a Potential Problem list in the recent past has been
  successfull.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  Regards to all
  Fred Lindsay



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[LegacyUG] potential problems question

[cranberryfrog]

I run the potential problems regularly because I am constantly working on my
file.  I have the criteria set and I never change what is there.  When I run
a potential problems sometimes people will pop up that I haven’t worked on
in a long time.  For example,

Today Nancy Irby pops up because “death date after age 100.”  She didn’t pop
up last week, or the week before, or the week before or ever (or I would
have fixed it or marked it as no problem).   I looked at Nancy and the last
edited date is 2 years ago.  Why on earth is she popping up now?  She was
legitimately 104 years old when she died so it isn’t a problem and I have
now marked it as such.

Another one popped up today.  Anna Lee Maddox for “event date after death
date.”  She has never popped up before.   I haven’t worked with her since
Oct.  I look and sure enough I made a mistake.  She died 09 Mar 1942 but I
accidently put her cemetery/burial date as Feb 1944 (brain fart?)  Why didn’t
it pick this up before?

This happens every so often.  Not all the time but once in a while.  It isn’t
a real big deal, I just fix it but it is puzzling.

Michele



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