Re: [LegacyUG] Locations file store

[Chris Hill]

Most probably - I have just opened it with Access and there are multiple 
references, in multiple tables, to various settings for Options. Not one 
that I would want to change without having the Legacy source code and 
understanding of what and how they work.


Regards

Chris

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations file store


I do not think those are in any .usr file. Most of, if not all, the choices made 
in Options > Customize are stored in the App-Data/Usr/Profile.dbm file.

Brian Kelly

On 04-Jan.-20 9:51 a.m., JoPoi wrote:

Hi

Does anyone know which of the USR files stores the Locations selections
(as in Customise 6.1 etc etc)

Jo




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations file store

[Brian Kelly]

I do not think those are in any .usr file. Most of, if not all, the 
choices made in Options > Customize are stored in the 
App-Data/Usr/Profile.dbm file.


Brian Kelly

On 04-Jan.-20 9:51 a.m., JoPoi wrote:

Hi

Does anyone know which of the USR files stores the Locations selections
(as in Customise 6.1 etc etc)

Jo




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations in General Notes

[Brian/Support]

One possible reason why things may be placed in the Notes is by import 
from a GEDCOM file. If Legacy finds something in a GEDCOM that it does 
not understand it will place the data from the GEDCOM in the general 
notes and report that in the log file created during the import. I am 
not saying that this is where your odd data came from but it is the most 
common way that data can be added to Notes by Legacy.


The second reason is that the original GEDCOM contained those notes 
entries because the original file contained those entries.


Brian
Customer Support
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On 10-Jul-16 7:46 PM, Martha Graham wrote:

Good Evening,
In the process of cleaning up the three sections of Notes, I am noticing
that there are locations in the 'General' Section of the Notes. I know
that I did not enter these locations in the Gen Note Section.

From what I can determine, the locations in the Gen Note Tab match the
following location data entries:
Birth
Event: Census

The entries are not consistent over the whole database.
What could cause this?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Martha
In Los Osos, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations database

[Cathy Pinner]

Vivian
Are you talking about the Geo location Database that is used with Legacy
or something else?

If the Geo Database, then it is part of Legacy. It's just installed
separately.

Some people love it and don't enter a location without consulting it.

I don't even have it installed. Whether it's useful really depends on
where you mainly research in the world AND how good you are at adapting
it. I prefer to research and map every location myself.

Cathy

Vivian Gullickson White wrote:
>
> It's not Legacy, it's the locations database.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Cathy Pinner  > wrote:
>
> Have you read the suggestions in the Legacy Help Centre?
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/
> If they don't help I suggest you email support.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Vivian Gullickson White wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am unable to install the locations DB on Windows 10. I get an
>> error
>> message that says "This app cannot run on your PC. To find a verson
>> that will run on your machine, check with the software publisher". I
>> have a brand new Acer laptop. I have tried running as admin and used
>> all the troubleshouting emulating as far back as XP. Does anyone
>> have
>> any suggestions?
>>
>> Vivian Gullickson White
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations database

[Vivian Gullickson White]

It's not Legacy, it's the locations database.


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Have you read the suggestions in the Legacy Help Centre?
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/
> If they don't help I suggest you email support.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Vivian Gullickson White wrote:
>
>
> I am unable to install the locations DB on Windows 10. I get an error
> message that says "This app cannot run on your PC. To find a verson
> that will run on your machine, check with the software publisher". I
> have a brand new Acer laptop. I have tried running as admin and used
> all the troubleshouting emulating as far back as XP. Does anyone have
> any suggestions?
>
> Vivian Gullickson White
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations database

[Cathy Pinner]

Have you read the suggestions in the Legacy Help Centre?
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/
If they don't help I suggest you email support.

Cathy

Vivian Gullickson White wrote:
>
> I am unable to install the locations DB on Windows 10. I get an error
> message that says "This app cannot run on your PC. To find a verson
> that will run on your machine, check with the software publisher". I
> have a brand new Acer laptop. I have tried running as admin and used
> all the troubleshouting emulating as far back as XP. Does anyone have
> any suggestions?
>
> Vivian Gullickson White





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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[Anne Scott]

Thanks, everyone, for the feedback.

OK, Jessica, you lose.  You have a much worse problem than the one I have. ;)

Sounds like I need to be more aware of where cities/towns can be in multiple 
counties.  I had been laboring under the misconception that there was always a 
one-to-one connection between counties and cities/towns (at least for a given 
point in time).  Silly me!

Anne

From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:28:39 +1100





The Family Search “Standard Finder” may help: 
https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/PlaceStandardLookup.jsp



John

From: Jessica Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple
counties?



I have one that straddles state lines. Springhill, Webster, Louisiana - or
Springhill, Columbia County, Arkansas.

To make it even worse, the Springhill Cemetery there NOW is in Louisiana.
The ORIGINAL is in Arkansas.

So when I have this issue I include in the NOTES section, a blurb about the
two similar, but different, locations, and in parenthesis I include any
postulating on my part; ex (probably Webster Parish, but not confirmed
2/17/15).

I also have this issue with Shiloh Cemeteries, as there are about a dozen
within fifty miles of each other, all in different towns and varying parishes in
Louisiana. So I just make very detailed notes.

If I have an absolute confirmation, I put that in the appropriate field,
but if there is any doubt, I always add the other possible locations to my notes
so I don't continue to postulate without results.

Jessica










Jessica Morgan
Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone
Minerals
Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study
Group
**





On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jay Wilpolt  wrote:













  Jerry,

She is talking about cities that are in two
  counties.

Like New London, Wisconsin

do you use New
  London, Outagamie, Wisconsin
or  New London, Waupaca, Wisconsin.

It's about 50/50 land spread between the counties.

and
  Appleton, Wisconsin

could be Appleton, Calumet,
  Wisconsin
or  Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin

even
  tho' less than 4% of the city is in Calumet County (and it's the county seat
  for Outagamie. )

which one should you use when you may have
  documentation but no distinction to which county it should be.


Jay











  On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Michigan
   wrote:


Anne, are you speaking
about the source only or the location formatting? For those of us who use
the four division location name (to promote proper sorting), I would do
something like this:

Detroit, , Michigan, United States

To
each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing county between
commas and put appropriate notes in the adjacent notes field.

Jerry
Boor,
MerriamFamilyTree.org


On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:


  I went to record an obituary source late last week and
  wanted to add the city name and county name of the newspaper to my source
  record.  Unfortunately, the city straddles multiple counties.Â
  After a bit of research, I discovered that there are many towns and cities
  in Colorado that straddle county boundaries.Â
Â
For my
  specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look up the street address
  and record the appropriate county based on the newspaper address.
Â

What suggestions does this group have for handling this situation
  when all you have is a city/town name?
Â

Anne


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[Robert57P_gmail]

Consider why we worry about the county - where are records kept in case
you need to do some research there.  So you might be better off logging
where the "city center" is, rather than where the person was physically
located.

Of course that also depends on how both counties stored their records!

In any event, you should definitely include both counties in the notes.
You could probably also add TWO residence events and list one address
for each county . . . that way it would come up in any research no
matter which county you were reviewing.

Bob

On 02/17/2015 16:28, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
> The Family Search “Standard Finder” may help:
> https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/PlaceStandardLookup.jsp
> John
> *From:* Jessica Morgan <mailto:jrkmorg...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:43 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?
> I have one that straddles state lines. Springhill, Webster, Louisiana
> - or Springhill, Columbia County, Arkansas.
> To make it even worse, the Springhill Cemetery there NOW is in
> Louisiana. The ORIGINAL is in Arkansas.
> So when I have this issue I include in the NOTES section, a blurb
> about the two similar, but different, locations, and in parenthesis I
> include any postulating on my part; ex (probably Webster Parish, but
> not confirmed 2/17/15).
> I also have this issue with Shiloh Cemeteries, as there are about a
> dozen within fifty miles of each other, all in different towns and
> varying parishes in Louisiana. So I just make very detailed notes.
> If I have an absolute confirmation, I put that in the appropriate
> field, but if there is any doubt, I always add the other possible
> locations to my notes so I don't continue to postulate without results.
> Jessica
>
> *Jessica Morgan*
>
> *Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone Minerals*
>
> **
> *Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study Group*
> 
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jay Wilpolt  <mailto:jaywilp...@aol.com>> wrote:
>
> Jerry,
>
> She is talking about cities that are in two counties.
>
> Like New London, Wisconsin
>
> do you use New London, Outagamie, Wisconsin
> or  New London, Waupaca, Wisconsin.
> It's about 50/50 land spread between the counties.
>
> and Appleton, Wisconsin
>
> could be Appleton, Calumet, Wisconsin
> or  Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin
>
> even tho' less than 4% of the city is in Calumet County (and it's
> the county seat for Outagamie. )
>
> which one should you use when you may have documentation but no
> distinction to which county it should be.
>
> Jay
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Michigan
>  wrote:
>
> Anne, are you speaking about the source only or the location
> formatting? For those of us who use the four division location
> name (to promote proper sorting), I would do something like this:
>
> Detroit, , Michigan, United States
>
> To each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing
> county between commas and put appropriate notes in the
> adjacent notes field.
>
> Jerry Boor,
> MerriamFamilyTree.org
>
> On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:
>> I went to record an obituary source late last week and
>> wanted to add the city name and county name of the newspaper
>> to my source record. Unfortunately, the city straddles
>> multiple counties.  After a bit of research, I discovered
>> that there are many towns and cities in Colorado that
>> straddle county boundaries.Â
>> Â
>> For my specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look
>> up the street address and record the appropriate county based
>> on the newspaper address.
>> Â
>> What suggestions does this group have for handling this
>> situation when all you have is a city/town name?
>> Â
>> Anne
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[johnbernacki1]

The Family Search “Standard Finder” may help: 
https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/PlaceStandardLookup.jsp

John
From: Jessica Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

I have one that straddles state lines. Springhill, Webster, Louisiana - or 
Springhill, Columbia County, Arkansas.

To make it even worse, the Springhill Cemetery there NOW is in Louisiana. The 
ORIGINAL is in Arkansas.

So when I have this issue I include in the NOTES section, a blurb about the two 
similar, but different, locations, and in parenthesis I include any postulating 
on my part; ex (probably Webster Parish, but not confirmed 2/17/15).

I also have this issue with Shiloh Cemeteries, as there are about a dozen 
within fifty miles of each other, all in different towns and varying parishes 
in Louisiana. So I just make very detailed notes.

If I have an absolute confirmation, I put that in the appropriate field, but if 
there is any doubt, I always add the other possible locations to my notes so I 
don't continue to postulate without results.

Jessica


Jessica Morgan

Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone Minerals

Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study Group
**







On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jay Wilpolt  wrote:

  Jerry,


  She is talking about cities that are in two counties.


  Like New London, Wisconsin


  do you use New London, Outagamie, Wisconsin

  or  New London, Waupaca, Wisconsin.

  It's about 50/50 land spread between the counties.


  and Appleton, Wisconsin


  could be Appleton, Calumet, Wisconsin

  or  Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin


  even tho' less than 4% of the city is in Calumet County (and it's the county 
seat for Outagamie. )


  which one should you use when you may have documentation but no distinction 
to which county it should be.


  Jay




  On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Michigan  
wrote:

Anne, are you speaking about the source only or the location formatting? 
For those of us who use the four division location name (to promote proper 
sorting), I would do something like this:

Detroit, , Michigan, United States

To each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing county between 
commas and put appropriate notes in the adjacent notes field.

Jerry Boor,
MerriamFamilyTree.org


On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:

  I went to record an obituary source late last week and wanted to add the 
city name and county name of the newspaper to my source record.  
Unfortunately, the city straddles multiple counties.  After a bit of research, 
I discovered that there are many towns and cities in Colorado that straddle 
county boundaries.Â
  Â
  For my specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look up the street 
address and record the appropriate county based on the newspaper address.
  Â
  What suggestions does this group have for handling this situation when 
all you have is a city/town name?
  Â
  Anne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[Jessica Morgan]

I have one that straddles state lines. Springhill, Webster, Louisiana - or
Springhill, Columbia County, Arkansas.

To make it even worse, the Springhill Cemetery there NOW is in Louisiana.
The ORIGINAL is in Arkansas.

So when I have this issue I include in the NOTES section, a blurb about the
two similar, but different, locations, and in parenthesis I include any
postulating on my part; ex (probably Webster Parish, but not confirmed
2/17/15).

I also have this issue with Shiloh Cemeteries, as there are about a dozen
within fifty miles of each other, all in different towns and varying
parishes in Louisiana. So I just make very detailed notes.

If I have an absolute confirmation, I put that in the appropriate field,
but if there is any doubt, I always add the other possible locations to my
notes so I don't continue to postulate without results.

Jessica


*Jessica Morgan*

*Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone Minerals*
*Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study Group*





On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jay Wilpolt  wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> She is talking about cities that are in two counties.
>
> Like New London, Wisconsin
>
> do you use New London, Outagamie, Wisconsin
> or  New London, Waupaca, Wisconsin.
> It's about 50/50 land spread between the counties.
>
> and Appleton, Wisconsin
>
> could be Appleton, Calumet, Wisconsin
> or  Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin
>
> even tho' less than 4% of the city is in Calumet County (and it's the
> county seat for Outagamie. )
>
> which one should you use when you may have documentation but no
> distinction to which county it should be.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Michigan <
> bearjerca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Anne, are you speaking about the source only or the location
>> formatting? For those of us who use the four division location name (to
>> promote proper sorting), I would do something like this:
>>
>> Detroit, , Michigan, United States
>>
>> To each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing county
>> between commas and put appropriate notes in the adjacent notes field.
>>
>> Jerry Boor,
>> MerriamFamilyTree.org
>>
>>  On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:
>>
>> I went to record an obituary source late last week and wanted to add the
>> city name and county name of the newspaper to my source record.Â
>> Unfortunately, the city straddles multiple counties.  After a bit of
>> research, I discovered that there are many towns and cities in Colorado
>> that straddle county boundaries.Â
>> Â
>> For my specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look up the street
>> address and record the appropriate county based on the newspaper address.
>> Â
>> What suggestions does this group have for handling this situation when
>> all you have is a city/town name?
>> Â
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[Jay Wilpolt]

Jerry,

She is talking about cities that are in two counties.

Like New London, Wisconsin

do you use New London, Outagamie, Wisconsin
or  New London, Waupaca, Wisconsin.
It's about 50/50 land spread between the counties.

and Appleton, Wisconsin

could be Appleton, Calumet, Wisconsin
or  Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin

even tho' less than 4% of the city is in Calumet County (and it's the
county seat for Outagamie. )

which one should you use when you may have documentation but no distinction
to which county it should be.

Jay



On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Michigan 
wrote:

>  Anne, are you speaking about the source only or the location formatting?
> For those of us who use the four division location name (to promote proper
> sorting), I would do something like this:
>
> Detroit, , Michigan, United States
>
> To each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing county
> between commas and put appropriate notes in the adjacent notes field.
>
> Jerry Boor,
> MerriamFamilyTree.org
>
>  On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:
>
> I went to record an obituary source late last week and wanted to add the
> city name and county name of the newspaper to my source record.Â
> Unfortunately, the city straddles multiple counties.  After a bit of
> research, I discovered that there are many towns and cities in Colorado
> that straddle county boundaries.Â
> Â
> For my specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look up the street
> address and record the appropriate county based on the newspaper address.
> Â
> What suggestions does this group have for handling this situation when
> all you have is a city/town name?
> Â
> Anne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[Jerry in Michigan]

Anne, are you speaking about the source only or the location formatting?
For those of us who use the four division location name (to promote
proper sorting), I would do something like this:

Detroit, , Michigan, United States

To each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing county
between commas and put appropriate notes in the adjacent notes field.

Jerry Boor,
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On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:
> I went to record an obituary source late last week and wanted to add
> the city name and county name of the newspaper to my source record.
> Unfortunately, the city straddles multiple counties.  After a bit of
> research, I discovered that there are many towns and cities in
> Colorado that straddle county boundaries.
>
> For my specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look up the
> street address and record the appropriate county based on the
> newspaper address.
>
> What suggestions does this group have for handling this situation when
> all you have is a city/town name?
>
> Anne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Anne Picketts]

Cathy, Mike & Ron

Perhaps I should explain why I use the Master Lists Cleanup prior to doing
a check and repair (but always a backup before and after). But of course,
if one doesn't notice a 'mishap' until several days after it has happened,
a previous backup is not much use, especially when families are being added
to the db every day). I've been using Legacy since 'day 1' and have never
had this problem with the Cleanup list.

Our data base used to be held on several dos based Pedigree (some of you
will know just how far back that goes!)  We started using Legacy about 2002
and all of the Pedigree files had to be transferred and merged. Up until
then, several different people had been entering families - that was a
recipe for disaster.  Some folk wrote Nova Scotia, some wrote NS, some
wrote NS;.  This style applied to many locations - merging and correcting
was a very time consuming job, and in fact is still going on.  As well as
that problem, burials had been written as (e.g.) Helensville,
HelensvilleCemetery,
Helensville Cemetery RSA, Glorit Cem, Helensville Cem., Hellensvile, etc.
etc.  With a 90,000+ data base, it is very important to be able list the
locations, or find a location immediately rather than have to spend time
searching through lots of place names (many with an ethnic origin that no
longer exist) that may or may not have included Helensville.  That is just
an example of place names - over the years, I have changed the locations
(using Helensville as an example) to Helensville, Auckland, NZ and put the
name of the cemetery in the Burial notes - makes for a much tidier and more
efficient Locations index list.  (I seem to remember a discussion about
this very thing a few weeks back).  Whatever one does, there must be some
sort of conformity.

I believe it is important to "think ahead" and hopefully, make it straight
forward for whoever may follow me in keeping the database up to date and
easy to find a location.

These days, we have one person only entering.

I hope you can see my reasoning in using the Master Lists Cleanup function,
and I hope I've explained it logically.  As said - I have never had this
problem previously, but I will *not* be using it again, which means that
over time, I will end up with a lot of unwanted location areas, full stops,
commas, abbreviations that should be in full, spelling errors, etc. etc.

Thanks for your responses.

Anne


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Ron Taylor  wrote:

> I have seen something similar once in Legacy 7.  I'm sure it was caused by
> human error.  What I did was merge the newest file with a backup of the
> file using IntelliShare merge.  That allowed me to see all the location
> changes and discover the pattern.  In my case, it was because Salt Lake
> City has been combined in the Master Locations List with Payson, Utah.
>  Once I knew that, I changed all the Payson, Utah to Salt Lake City and
> then did the merge again to find the few entries that should have remained
> Payson.  It took about an hour but that fixed over 5000 incorrectly linked
> entries.  Hope this may help you to restore at least the locations that
> were right in your backup but somehow got zapped in your current file.
> Ron Taylor
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Ron Taylor]

I have seen something similar once in Legacy 7.  I'm sure it was caused by 
human error.  What I did was merge the newest file with a backup of the file 
using IntelliShare merge.  That allowed me to see all the location changes and 
discover the pattern.  In my case, it was because Salt Lake City has been 
combined in the Master Locations List with Payson, Utah.  Once I knew that, I 
changed all the Payson, Utah to Salt Lake City and then did the merge again to 
find the few entries that should have remained Payson.  It took about an hour 
but that fixed over 5000 incorrectly linked entries.  Hope this may help you to 
restore at least the locations that were right in your backup but somehow got 
zapped in your current file.
Ron Taylor



On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:21 AM, MikeFry  wrote:

On 18 Mar 2014 05:29, Anne Picketts wrote:

> Yes - I was doing a Master Lists Cleanup and left it for some time after the
> 'Not responding' msg.  Thinking back, I think the programme just closed down
> after a while - without any help from me.

Again, Windows trying to be helpful. If you try and access the offending window
when it's in this state, Windows brings up a message asking whether you want to
continue waiting or not. If you don't respond to this message then Windows will
timeout and cancel the program for you.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[MikeFry]

On 18 Mar 2014 05:29, Anne Picketts wrote:

> Yes - I was doing a Master Lists Cleanup and left it for some time after the
> 'Not responding' msg.  Thinking back, I think the programme just closed down
> after a while - without any help from me.

Again, Windows trying to be helpful. If you try and access the offending window
when it's in this state, Windows brings up a message asking whether you want to
continue waiting or not. If you don't respond to this message then Windows will
timeout and cancel the program for you.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[MikeFry]

On 18 Mar 2014 04:01, Cathy Pinner wrote:

> Can you remember what sort of clean up operation
> you were doing when Legacy wasn't responding? Not
> responding is different to freezing. Sometimes if
> you leave a "non-responding" program for awhile,
> it finishes doing whatever it was doing in the
> background and starts responding again. I've
> noticed this in Legacy and in other programs as
> well. It's as if the program is sending the wrong
> message to the computer. Rather than saying "I'm busy but still working hard"

When a program becomes non-responsive, it's generally Windows that determines
this and changes the titlebar to reflect this. I could bore you all and tell you
why Windows does this, but it's all down to a poorly designed program which is
attempting to carry out a long-running task on the same thread of processing
that should be handling the user interface.

As Cathy says, leave it for a bit. Go and pour a glass of wine. If it's still
not responding, then all you can do is open up the Task Manager and kill the
program.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Anne Picketts]

Hi Cathy

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

>
>
> Can you remember what sort of clean up operation
> you were doing when Legacy wasn't responding? Not
> responding is different to freezing. Sometimes if
> you leave a "non-responding" program for awhile,
> it finishes doing whatever it was doing in the
> background and starts responding again.


Yes - I was doing a Master Lists Cleanup and left it for some time after
the 'Not responding' msg.  Thinking back, I think the programme just closed
down after a while - without any help from me.

Anne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Anne Picketts]

Hi Bob

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:

>
>
> I sure hope you have a recent backup.
>

Yes - I back up regularly - and do regular maintenance checks.  I've traced
a 'correct' backup to the 5 March, but I'm still going to have to go
through each entry.  Interestingly, on the 5 Mar backup, there are only 2
locations that apply to the one that's gone global.

> Even then it could have been ages to notice that things were wrong.  It
> looks like the only solution is to go through those 7500 entries and check
> them against a previous file.  Wow, a huge job.
>

Fortunately, I have a colleague to help, 2 independent screens and a lap
top.  It won't be a difficult job - just time consuming.

>
>
>
> Anne

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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bob Austen]

Hi Anne,



I sure hope you have a recent backup.  Even then it could have been ages to 
notice that things were wrong.  It looks like the only solution is to go 
through those 7500 entries and check them against a previous file.  Wow, a huge 
job.



Again, even a backup would only have saved you completely had you noticed the 
issue straight away.  I’m not sure how I would have reacted had the cleanup 
stopped working.  I do backups on a regular basis, using Legacy’s File/Backup 
and include my media files as well.  That can take some time to do.  If I’m 
going to do an operation that is a even a little suspect I will do a quick 
backup, that is, a copy of my file.  You don’t even have to close Legacy – just 
go to the location of your file, right click on it, copy, then paste it in the 
same folder. Now you have “filename – Copy.fdb” and it only took a few seconds. 
 Cheap insurance.



Good luck.



Bob A



From: Anne Picketts [mailto:waipuc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 4:39 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations



I started getting suspicious while I was adding to the db on Sunday afternoon - 
there were several with the same location and I had a feeling that they 
shouldn't have been.  I did a print out from the Master Locations list for that 
particular location - 149 pages - 50 entries on each page  :-(



And yes - come to think of it, I did attempt a Master locations list clean up.  
It asked me if I wanted to see the list - yes, I did; OKand then it 
simply stopped working - "not responding".  Nasty!



Anne



On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:

Now that is scary, but how would I know, unless I came across a location I knew 
to be incorrect.  Had you been making any changes/corrections/cleanup in the 
Master Locations?  Any recent Search/Replace actions?



Bob A





From: Anne Picketts [mailto:waipuc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:06 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations



Has anyone had a problem with Legacy V.8 unwittingly(??) altering locations?  I 
operate a large database and sometime over the past week, many of my locations 
have been globally changed to the same location (without any obvious help from 
me).



Fortunately, I can check through Legacy 7 to make necessary corrections (which 
will be a time consuming pain), but I am curious to know how it could have 
happened.



Any suggestions welcome.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Cathy Pinner]

HI Anne,

Can you remember what sort of clean up operation
you were doing when Legacy wasn't responding? Not
responding is different to freezing. Sometimes if
you leave a "non-responding" program for awhile,
it finishes doing whatever it was doing in the
background and starts responding again. I've
noticed this in Legacy and in other programs as
well. It's as if the program is sending the wrong
message to the computer. Rather than saying "I'm busy but still working hard"

It sounds as if it was the interruption of the
clean up process that caused the problem but it's
difficult to follow up without knowing what you were doing.

Cathy

At 07:38 AM 18/03/2014, you wrote:
>I started getting suspicious while I was adding
>to the db on Sunday afternoon - there were
>several with the same location and I had a
>feeling that they shouldn't have been. Â I did a
>print out from the Master Locations list for
>that particular location - 149 pages - 50 entries on each page  :-(
>
>And yes - come to think of it, I did attempt a
>Master locations list clean up. Â It asked me if
>I wanted to see the list - yes, I did;
>OKand then it simply stopped working - "not responding". Â Nasty!
>
>Anne
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Bob Austen
><rgaus...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>Now that is scary, but how would I know, unless
>I came across a location I knew to be incorrect.
>Â Had you been making any
>changes/corrections/cleanup in the Master
>Locations?  Any recent Search/Replace actions?
>
>Â
>
>Bob A
>
>Â
>
>Â
>
>From: Anne Picketts [mailto:waipuc...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:06 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
>Â
>
>Has anyone had a problem with Legacy V.8
>unwittingly(??) altering locations? Â I operate
>a large database and sometime over the past
>week, many of my locations have been globally
>changed to the same location (without any obvious help from me).
>
>Â
>
>Fortunately, I can check through Legacy 7 to
>make necessary corrections (which will be a time
>consuming pain), but I am curious to know how it could have happened.
>
>Â
>
>Any suggestions welcome.
>
>Â
>
>--
>
>Anne PICKETTS
>Waipu, NZ
>
>Phone: Â 09 432-0045; Mobile: Â 021 252 1013
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Anne Picketts]

I started getting suspicious while I was adding to the db on Sunday
afternoon - there were several with the same location and I had a feeling
that they shouldn't have been.  I did a print out from the Master Locations
list for that particular location - 149 pages - 50 entries on each page
 :-(

And yes - come to think of it, I did attempt a Master locations list clean
up.  It asked me if I wanted to see the list - yes, I did;
OKand then it simply stopped working - "not responding".  Nasty!

Anne


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Bob Austen  wrote:

> Now that is scary, but how would I know, unless I came across a location I
> knew to be incorrect.  Had you been making any changes/corrections/cleanup
> in the Master Locations?  Any recent Search/Replace actions?
>
>
>
> Bob A
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Anne Picketts [mailto:waipuc...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 3:06 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Locations
>
>
>
> Has anyone had a problem with Legacy V.8 unwittingly(??) altering
> locations?  I operate a large database and sometime over the past week,
> many of my locations have been globally changed to the same location
> (without any obvious help from me).
>
>
>
> Fortunately, I can check through Legacy 7 to make necessary corrections
> (which will be a time consuming pain), but I am curious to know how it
> could have happened.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Anne PICKETTS
> Waipu, NZ
>
> Phone:  09 432-0045; Mobile:  021 252 1013
>
> NZSG #5331;  KFHS #6151
>
> www.waipumuseum.com
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bob Austen]

Now that is scary, but how would I know, unless I came across a location I knew 
to be incorrect.  Had you been making any changes/corrections/cleanup in the 
Master Locations?  Any recent Search/Replace actions?



Bob A





From: Anne Picketts [mailto:waipuc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:06 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations



Has anyone had a problem with Legacy V.8 unwittingly(??) altering locations?  I 
operate a large database and sometime over the past week, many of my locations 
have been globally changed to the same location (without any obvious help from 
me).



Fortunately, I can check through Legacy 7 to make necessary corrections (which 
will be a time consuming pain), but I am curious to know how it could have 
happened.



Any suggestions welcome.



--

Anne PICKETTS
Waipu, NZ

Phone:  09 432-0045; Mobile:  021 252 1013

NZSG #5331;  KFHS #6151

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Brian/Support]

What build are you using? That problem was reported with early builds
but should be fixed in the latest update? It is working for me in
8.0.0.385 which was issued on 18 Jan 2014.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 24 Jan 2014 3:28 PM, Ian Watkins wrote:
> Since installing Legacy 8 I have encountered problems with recording USA
> addresses:
>
> When I enter a USA address and press enter the address corrupts -
>
> I enter this: *mount pleasant, wabasha, minnesota, usa*, press enter
>
> and it records as: *Mount Pleas USA Wabasha, Minnesota, Usa* (instead of
> Mount Pleasant, Wabasha, Minnesota, USA).
>
> Anyone got any clues nas to why this is happening - it only occurs with
> USA addresses.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ian Watkins
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version

[Kathy Thompson]

thanks :)


On 30 November 2013 12:31, Michele/Support wrote:

> Options > Customize > 8. View
>
> 8.4 Short Location Names on Screens
>
> If you want the short locations to be on reports you set that on the
> report options for whichever report you are working with.
>
>
> Michele
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>
> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 9:08 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version
>
> I can't seem to find where I can tell Legacy to always display the Short
> version of a location.
> I used to have this set to always display short version on each screen,
> now I just can't find it and some screens show long version others short
> version.
>
> Can anyone please advise?
> Thank
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version

[Michele/Support]

Options > Customize > 8. View

8.4 Short Location Names on Screens

If you want the short locations to be on reports you set that on the report 
options for whichever report you are working with.


Michele
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From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 9:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version

I can't seem to find where I can tell Legacy to always display the Short 
version of a location.
I used to have this set to always display short version on each screen, now I 
just can't find it and some screens show long version others short version.

Can anyone please advise?
Thank


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version

[Leon Chapman]

It is under Options, Customize, 8.4.
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote:

> I can't seem to find where I can tell Legacy to always display the Short
> version of a location.
> I used to have this set to always display short version on each screen,
> now I just can't find it and some screens show long version others short
> version.
>
> Can anyone please advise?
> Thank
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version

[Kathy Thompson]

t
hanks


On 30 November 2013 12:13, Sherry/Support wrote:

> Options > Customize > View option 8.4
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Kathy Thompson 
> wrote:
> > I can't seem to find where I can tell Legacy to always display the Short
> > version of a location.
> > I used to have this set to always display short version on each screen,
> now
> > I just can't find it and some screens show long version others short
> > version.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - display short version

[Sherry/Support]

Options > Customize > View option 8.4


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> I can't seem to find where I can tell Legacy to always display the Short
> version of a location.
> I used to have this set to always display short version on each screen, now
> I just can't find it and some screens show long version others short
> version.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bernd Hornung]

Did that as well and have made more progress in the past hour than in
the last two days.


On 09/09/2013 2:02 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
> Also Turn OFF the Show People so the system doesnt stop and collect
> everyone with that place name.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Bernd Hornung  > wrote:
>
> I have turned off 'Show Map' but it makes no difference.Â
>
> I am editing the Locations list, combining myriads of duplicated
> locations. File maintenance does not seem to deal with it since it
> does not recognize the minute differences (i.e. commas).
>
> At this stage I do not necessarily need Legacy to put the 'V'
> in,  I just want to combine and not take until Legacy 10 comes
> out, to finish it.
>
> As an aside, does Legacy "read" Location connections made it
> another DB?  It seems that it is making connections of some
> places I remember having worked on in two of my other DBs.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On 09/09/2013 11:56 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Bernie,
>>
>> Are you talking about the time Legacy Mapping takes? If so switch it 
>> off. The switch is above the map screen on the right.
>>
>> If it's then please spell out exactly what you are doing or what it is 
>> you want.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> Bernd Hornung    wrote:
>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> When you click on a location, the program tries to find it
>>> geographically.  It goes into "thinking" mode (in my case), the little
>>> circle goes round and round until it is done.  Then you can click to
>>> edit or whatever else you need to do.  Then you click on the redundant
>>> location you want to combine and again it's "thinking".  Finds the same
>>> information it did on the first location.  Once it stops, then you can
>>> combine.
>>>
>>> Also, the program sometimes comes up with some weird connection, such as
>>> a location in Ontario, Canada somehow gets connected to a location in
>>> the USA.  As far as I know they are still part of Canada even though
>>> they don't always act like it (I'm in the west).  What it does to some
>>> English locations is sometimes quite laughable.
>>>
>>> Bernie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/09/2013 11:03 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Bernie,

 I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any 
 sort will do!

 Perhaps you could clarify.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Bernd Hornung    wrote:

> Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
> database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
> go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far 
> as I
> can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
> the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.
>
> Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
> locations and geocode.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bernie
> --
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> http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/
>
>
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>>> http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

Also Turn OFF the Show People so the system doesnt stop and collect
everyone with that place name.




On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Bernd Hornung  wrote:

>  I have turned off 'Show Map' but it makes no difference.Â
>
> I am editing the Locations list, combining myriads of duplicated
> locations. File maintenance does not seem to deal with it since it does not
> recognize the minute differences (i.e. commas).
>
> At this stage I do not necessarily need Legacy to put the 'V' in,  I just
> want to combine and not take until Legacy 10 comes out, to finish it.
>
> As an aside, does Legacy "read" Location connections made it another DB?Â
> It seems that it is making connections of some places I remember having
> worked on in two of my other DBs.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On 09/09/2013 11:56 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
> Bernie,
>
> Are you talking about the time Legacy Mapping takes? If so switch it off. The 
> switch is above the map screen on the right.
>
> If it's then please spell out exactly what you are doing or what it is you 
> want.
>
> Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Bernd Hornung   wrote:
>
>
>  Ron,
>
> When you click on a location, the program tries to find it
> geographically.  It goes into "thinking" mode (in my case), the little
> circle goes round and round until it is done.  Then you can click to
> edit or whatever else you need to do.  Then you click on the redundant
> location you want to combine and again it's "thinking".  Finds the same
> information it did on the first location.  Once it stops, then you can
> combine.
>
> Also, the program sometimes comes up with some weird connection, such as
> a location in Ontario, Canada somehow gets connected to a location in
> the USA.  As far as I know they are still part of Canada even though
> they don't always act like it (I'm in the west).  What it does to some
> English locations is sometimes quite laughable.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On 09/09/2013 11:03 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
>  Bernie,
>
> I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any sort 
> will do!
>
> Perhaps you could clarify.
>
> Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Bernd Hornung   wrote:
>
>
>  Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
> database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
> go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far as I
> can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
> the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.
>
> Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
> locations and geocode.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bernie
> --
> Bernie H Blog site http://haushornung.weebly.com/ Data 
> sitehttp://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bernd Hornung]

DSL

I understand the V for the L column.

Thank you Tessa for the tip.  It seems to be speeding up the process.
Just have remember to turn it back on later.
I also discovered that one can combine more than one location at a time
by using the Shift or Control key.

Thanks to all

Bernie
On 09/09/2013 12:40 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> Are you on dial-up or broadband connection?
>
> I don't know what you mean "to put the 'V' in,Â"
>
> Are you referring to the "V" for verification in the "L" column for
> latitude and longitude? That's done when you geo-code the locations.
>
> You don't need maps showing if you're combining duplicates.
>
> File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair doesn't combine anything.
>
> Under the  Options button on the Master Location List you can combine
> duplicates, but they must be *exact* duplicates for Legacy to combine
> them.
>
> The only time Legacy "reads" anything other than the database is when
> it's reaching out to Bing maps to pull up the latitude and longitude
> and draw maps through Bing. You can also do that through the Geo
> Location Database but you have to do one at a time and it's not as
> accurate as Bing.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Bernd Hornung  > wrote:
>
> I have turned off 'Show Map' but it makes no difference.Â
>
> I am editing the Locations list, combining myriads of duplicated
> locations. File maintenance does not seem to deal with it since it
> does not recognize the minute differences (i.e. commas).
>
> At this stage I do not necessarily need Legacy
> to put the 'V' in,  I just want to combine and not take until
> Legacy 10 comes out, to finish it.
>
> As an aside, does Legacy "read" Location connections made it
> another DB?  It seems that it is making connections of some
> places I remember having worked on in two of my other DBs.
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Tessa Keough]

Have you gone into Customize and Options to turn off the mapping?
That's what I did and that seemed to work for me.

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On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Mary LeClerc  wrote:
> I agree.  Even with the "show map" deselected, the circle (working) icon
> shows for so long that the top bar flashes "legacy not-responding"  for a
> few seconds.
>
> Mary
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Mary LeClerc]

I agree.  Even with the "show map" deselected, the circle (working) icon
shows for so long that the top bar flashes "legacy not-responding"  for a
few seconds.

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On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Bernd Hornung  wrote:

>  I have turned off 'Show Map' but it makes no difference.Â
>
> I am editing the Locations list, combining myriads of duplicated
> locations. File maintenance does not seem to deal with it since it does not
> recognize the minute differences (i.e. commas).
>
> At this stage I do not necessarily need Legacy to put the 'V' in,  I just
> want to combine and not take until Legacy 10 comes out, to finish it.
>
> As an aside, does Legacy "read" Location connections made it another DB?Â
> It seems that it is making connections of some places I remember having
> worked on in two of my other DBs.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On 09/09/2013 11:56 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
> Bernie,
>
> Are you talking about the time Legacy Mapping takes? If so switch it off. The 
> switch is above the map screen on the right.
>
> If it's then please spell out exactly what you are doing or what it is you 
> want.
>
> Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Bernd Hornung   wrote:
>
>
>  Ron,
>
> When you click on a location, the program tries to find it
> geographically.  It goes into "thinking" mode (in my case), the little
> circle goes round and round until it is done.  Then you can click to
> edit or whatever else you need to do.  Then you click on the redundant
> location you want to combine and again it's "thinking".  Finds the same
> information it did on the first location.  Once it stops, then you can
> combine.
>
> Also, the program sometimes comes up with some weird connection, such as
> a location in Ontario, Canada somehow gets connected to a location in
> the USA.  As far as I know they are still part of Canada even though
> they don't always act like it (I'm in the west).  What it does to some
> English locations is sometimes quite laughable.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On 09/09/2013 11:03 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
>  Bernie,
>
> I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any sort 
> will do!
>
> Perhaps you could clarify.
>
> Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Bernd Hornung   wrote:
>
>
>  Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
> database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
> go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far as I
> can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
> the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.
>
> Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
> locations and geocode.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bernie
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bernd Hornung]

I have turned off 'Show Map' but it makes no difference.

I am editing the Locations list, combining myriads of duplicated
locations. File maintenance does not seem to deal with it since it does
not recognize the minute differences (i.e. commas).

At this stage I do not necessarily need Legacy to put the 'V' in,  I
just want to combine and not take until Legacy 10 comes out, to finish it.

As an aside, does Legacy "read" Location connections made it another
DB?  It seems that it is making connections of some places I remember
having worked on in two of my other DBs.

Bernie


On 09/09/2013 11:56 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Bernie,
>
> Are you talking about the time Legacy Mapping takes? If so switch it off. The 
> switch is above the map screen on the right.
>
> If it's then please spell out exactly what you are doing or what it is you 
> want.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Bernd Hornung  wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> When you click on a location, the program tries to find it
>> geographically.  It goes into "thinking" mode (in my case), the little
>> circle goes round and round until it is done.  Then you can click to
>> edit or whatever else you need to do.  Then you click on the redundant
>> location you want to combine and again it's "thinking".  Finds the same
>> information it did on the first location.  Once it stops, then you can
>> combine.
>>
>> Also, the program sometimes comes up with some weird connection, such as
>> a location in Ontario, Canada somehow gets connected to a location in
>> the USA.  As far as I know they are still part of Canada even though
>> they don't always act like it (I'm in the west).  What it does to some
>> English locations is sometimes quite laughable.
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>>
>> On 09/09/2013 11:03 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>> Bernie,
>>>
>>> I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any sort 
>>> will do!
>>>
>>> Perhaps you could clarify.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>> Bernd Hornung  wrote:
>>>
 Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
 database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
 go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far as I
 can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
 the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.

 Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
 locations and geocode.

 Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Ron Ferguson]

Bernie,

Are you talking about the time Legacy Mapping takes? If so switch it off. The 
switch is above the map screen on the right.

If it's then please spell out exactly what you are doing or what it is you want.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Bernd Hornung  wrote:

>Ron,
>
>When you click on a location, the program tries to find it
>geographically.  It goes into "thinking" mode (in my case), the little
>circle goes round and round until it is done.  Then you can click to
>edit or whatever else you need to do.  Then you click on the redundant
>location you want to combine and again it's "thinking".  Finds the same
>information it did on the first location.  Once it stops, then you can
>combine.
>
>Also, the program sometimes comes up with some weird connection, such as
>a location in Ontario, Canada somehow gets connected to a location in
>the USA.  As far as I know they are still part of Canada even though
>they don't always act like it (I'm in the west).  What it does to some
>English locations is sometimes quite laughable.
>
>Bernie
>
>
>On 09/09/2013 11:03 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Bernie,
>>
>> I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any sort 
>> will do!
>>
>> Perhaps you could clarify.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> Bernd Hornung  wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
>>> database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
>>> go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far as I
>>> can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
>>> the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.
>>>
>>> Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
>>> locations and geocode.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Bernie
>>> --
>>> Bernie H Blog site http://haushornung.weebly.com/ Data site
>>> http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bernd Hornung]

Ron,

When you click on a location, the program tries to find it
geographically.  It goes into "thinking" mode (in my case), the little
circle goes round and round until it is done.  Then you can click to
edit or whatever else you need to do.  Then you click on the redundant
location you want to combine and again it's "thinking".  Finds the same
information it did on the first location.  Once it stops, then you can
combine.

Also, the program sometimes comes up with some weird connection, such as
a location in Ontario, Canada somehow gets connected to a location in
the USA.  As far as I know they are still part of Canada even though
they don't always act like it (I'm in the west).  What it does to some
English locations is sometimes quite laughable.

Bernie


On 09/09/2013 11:03 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Bernie,
>
> I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any sort 
> will do!
>
> Perhaps you could clarify.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Bernd Hornung  wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
>> database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
>> go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far as I
>> can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
>> the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.
>>
>> Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
>> locations and geocode.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bernie
>> --
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>> http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Ron Ferguson]

Bernie,

I am not certain as to what automatic thinking is, but at my age any sort will 
do!

Perhaps you could clarify.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Bernd Hornung  wrote:

>Is there a way to turn off the automatic "thinking"?  I have a large
>database with 100s of locations that are a total mess.  I just want to
>go through it and combine those locations that are the same (as far as I
>can tell).  I don't want it to be "thinking" for each of, for example,
>the 10 different descriptions for Herkimer, NY.
>
>Once I have pared down the list then I can go through and verify
>locations and geocode.
>
>Thanks
>
>Bernie
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - Extra comma's

[Corney Keller]

Hello Anne,

I don't think your idea will work for me. I need a Gedcom file that is not
corrupted and I don't think 'Word' will respect the format once it saves the
document.
However, your idea did inspire me to try a something else. Using a
hex-editor, in my case Notepad++, I did the search and replace thing
(twice), and saved the file, uploaded and imported it to my website
application and voilà, it seems to have worked.
There were no reported errors during the import, and the places are now
formatted without extra comma's and spaces, and can be viewed correctly in
the google-maps extension on my website.

It's not an ideal solution, but it works. I will have to wait and see if
there are any obvious errors on my website, especially as I have a large
amount of notes and events/facts that may have been affected.

In any case, thanks for the tip and inspiration and enjoy sunny Melbourne.
(or was it MelBRON?)


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From: Anne Hollingshead [mailto:holl...@melbpc.org.au]
Sent: woensdag 7 november 2012 13:23
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Extra comma's

I put a copy of the gedcom into Word and then search and replace ", ,"  with
",". But it would be much easier if Legacy gave this option.

Anne

On 7/11/2012 10:09 PM, Corney Keller wrote:
Hello List,

I've been following Lloyd's 'Locations' thread and have a related question
that has been troubling me for a long time. I did not want to hijack Lloyd's
thread, so I altered the subject.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Extra comma's

[Anne Hollingshead]

I put a copy of the gedcom into Word and then search and replace ", ,"
with ",". But it would be much easier if Legacy gave this option.

Anne


On 7/11/2012 10:09 PM, Corney Keller wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I've been following Lloyd's 'Locations' thread and have a related question
> that has been troubling me for a long time. I did not want to hijack Lloyd's
> thread, so I altered the subject.
> Soon after I started using Legacy (version 5), I decided to use Legacy's
> recommended 4 position format for locations (probably to make the life of
> programmers easier when writing search routines). Even though I have hardly
> any US-based persons in my database - most are from continental Europe and
> South Africa - I have stuck to this format and populated my database with
> thousands of 4 position, comma separated locations.
> I don't want to discuss whether this is correct or not; this subject has
> been discussed to the point of tears over the years on this list, so let's
> not get into that again.
>
> So here's my problem:
> I want to export parts of my database to a Gedcom format for publication
> purposes but I definitely don't want the leading spaces and the in-between
> spaces with commas in my Gedcom file.
> i.e.: I want the locations to be converted from 4 position locations to
> locations with the blanks removed, for example:
> - Essen, , Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany > Essen, Nordrhein-Westfalen,
> Germany (3)
> - Richmond, , Cape Colony, South Africa > Richmond, Cape Colony, South
> Africa (3)
> - Richmond, , Northern Cape, South Africa > Richmond, Northern Cape, South
> Africa (3)
>
> Filled-in positions should however be left unaltered, for example:
> - Syferbult Station, district of Koster, Transvaal, South Africa (4)
> - "Rietfontein", Voor Baviaanskloof, Willowmore, Cape Colony, South Africa
> (5)
> - Meschede, Kurfürstentum Köln, Niederheinisch-Westfälischer Reichskreis,
> Germany (4)
>
> I've tried all options exporting files, but could not find any option to
> remove these offending spaces and comma's.
> Does Legacy have some 'hidden' option to do this? If 'no' does someone know
> of a conversion program?
>
> Please don't recommend changing all my place names in Legacy, because it's
> not an option for me. (Ron & Mike:))
>
> Any (other) idea is welcome.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Corney Keller
> Zaandam, NL
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - Extra comma's

[Corney Keller]

Hello List,

I've been following Lloyd's 'Locations' thread and have a related question
that has been troubling me for a long time. I did not want to hijack Lloyd's
thread, so I altered the subject.
Soon after I started using Legacy (version 5), I decided to use Legacy's
recommended 4 position format for locations (probably to make the life of
programmers easier when writing search routines). Even though I have hardly
any US-based persons in my database - most are from continental Europe and
South Africa - I have stuck to this format and populated my database with
thousands of 4 position, comma separated locations.
I don't want to discuss whether this is correct or not; this subject has
been discussed to the point of tears over the years on this list, so let's
not get into that again.

So here's my problem:
I want to export parts of my database to a Gedcom format for publication
purposes but I definitely don't want the leading spaces and the in-between
spaces with commas in my Gedcom file.
i.e.: I want the locations to be converted from 4 position locations to
locations with the blanks removed, for example:
- Essen, , Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany > Essen, Nordrhein-Westfalen,
Germany (3)
- Richmond, , Cape Colony, South Africa > Richmond, Cape Colony, South
Africa (3)
- Richmond, , Northern Cape, South Africa > Richmond, Northern Cape, South
Africa (3)

Filled-in positions should however be left unaltered, for example:
- Syferbult Station, district of Koster, Transvaal, South Africa (4)
- "Rietfontein", Voor Baviaanskloof, Willowmore, Cape Colony, South Africa
(5)
- Meschede, Kurfürstentum Köln, Niederheinisch-Westfälischer Reichskreis,
Germany (4)

I've tried all options exporting files, but could not find any option to
remove these offending spaces and comma's.
Does Legacy have some 'hidden' option to do this? If 'no' does someone know
of a conversion program?

Please don't recommend changing all my place names in Legacy, because it's
not an option for me. (Ron & Mike:))

Any (other) idea is welcome.


Thanks,

Corney Keller
Zaandam, NL






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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Anne Hollingshead]

  Most of my ancestors are UK or AUS and I use the four part
  solution and I use a hyphen to the place name.


  I find that this works well in my location list for sorting and
  checking.


  My main problem is getting rid of the two commas in reports.


  I do hope Version 8 has a delete two commas anywhere option.


  Anne



On 6/11/2012 9:44 AM, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> Hi, Sherry
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> If I understand correctly, the reasons for doing it the "correct" way
> are because a well-established book says so, Sort doesn't work properly
> and the Expand/contract parts won't work.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Nut]

On 11/5/2012 8:11 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> If you follow the suggestions in "Getting It Right" by Mary H.
> Slawson, only the governmental jurisdictions will be included in the
> location field.  Those are city/town, county, state and country.
>
> Including more than that, separated by commas from the city/town
> (street address, city, county, state or cemetery name, city, county
> state) makes it impossible to properly sort locations in the Master
> Location List and the Expand/Contract Location Parts can't correctly
> do its job.
>
> I would put what you're referring to in Events - using the
> "Description" field for the cemetery name, street address, etc and any
> other information in the Notes (grave site, etc).
>
> The Event Sentence reads:
>
> He was buried in the Mountain View Cemetery at Dillon,
> Beaveryhead,Montana, United States on 29 Sept 2007"
>
> or
>
> He resided at 123 Main Street from 1958 to 1996 in City, County, State
>
>
> Of course you can always edit the Event Sentence Definition if you
> don't like the order they print out on.
>
> I know we should use the Event addresses for birth, bap/chr, death,
> burial, marriage, etc, but since that's not as useful as the Master
> Event when reporting, I prefer the event. I'd love to find out if the
> programmers are making the event addresses more useful for reports
> beyond a simple list of who uses it or creating a Search List to print
> a report from that list.
>
> Many people are happy with their detailed address or cemetery or
> building name in the locations - it's up to you but not everything
> will work correctly if you add that, separating with commas.

I had the book mentioned above and gave it away, however I have quite a
bookshelf with genealogy books, that suggest as Sherry mentions as far
as location entries. Personally the balance of the information are put
in events or at least notes.

Looking through the archives, I found and like the entry by Brian Lightfoot.
"Tool to Uniformly Format Places" 6/7/2010. I was looking for how others
were entering Location Locations.

--
//Nut

>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Tony Rolfe  wrote:
>> >On 04 November 2012 00:46 Sherry/Support said:
>> >
>> >"If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't
>> >recommend for several reasons)"
>> >
>> >Sherry, can you please clarify this?
>> >
>> >I have all details in locations. Street numbers and Street names, Church
>> >names, Cemetery names etc. with each field separated by commas.
>> >
>> >My biggest includes grave number, section number, Cemetery name, street
>> >address, town, county, England.
>> >
>> >I'm not having any problems that I'm aware of, but I can geolocate
>> >everything and it keeps everything together.
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >
>> >Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Bruce Jones]

Two comments.
1. Regarding the sorting of the Master Location List, I change the sort
order to sort from Right to Left, so it doesn't matter how many fields I
have.
2. If I don't put the address in the location, I can't map out the
different houses, in the same city, I have lived in.  Or am I missing
something.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Sherry/Support
wrote:

> If you follow the suggestions in "Getting It Right" by Mary H.
> Slawson, only the governmental jurisdictions will be included in the
> location field.  Those are city/town, county, state and country.
>
> Including more than that, separated by commas from the city/town
> (street address, city, county, state or cemetery name, city, county
> state) makes it impossible to properly sort locations in the Master
> Location List and the Expand/Contract Location Parts can't correctly
> do its job.
>
> I would put what you're referring to in Events - using the
> "Description" field for the cemetery name, street address, etc and any
> other information in the Notes (grave site, etc).
>
> The Event Sentence reads:
>
> He was buried in the Mountain View Cemetery at Dillon,
> Beaveryhead,Montana, United States on 29 Sept 2007"
>
> or
>
> He resided at 123 Main Street from 1958 to 1996 in City, County, State
>
>
> Of course you can always edit the Event Sentence Definition if you
> don't like the order they print out on.
>
> I know we should use the Event addresses for birth, bap/chr, death,
> burial, marriage, etc, but since that's not as useful as the Master
> Event when reporting, I prefer the event. I'd love to find out if the
> programmers are making the event addresses more useful for reports
> beyond a simple list of who uses it or creating a Search List to print
> a report from that list.
>
> Many people are happy with their detailed address or cemetery or
> building name in the locations - it's up to you but not everything
> will work correctly if you add that, separating with commas.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Tony Rolfe 
> wrote:
> > On 04 November 2012 00:46 Sherry/Support said:
> >
> > "If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't
> > recommend for several reasons)"
> >
> > Sherry, can you please clarify this?
> >
> > I have all details in locations. Street numbers and Street names, Church
> > names, Cemetery names etc. with each field separated by commas.
> >
> > My biggest includes grave number, section number, Cemetery name, street
> > address, town, county, England.
> >
> > I'm not having any problems that I'm aware of, but I can geolocate
> > everything and it keeps everything together.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Tony
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Michele Lewis]

What Sherry said :)

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 10:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

If you follow the suggestions in "Getting It Right" by Mary H.
Slawson, only the governmental jurisdictions will be included in the location 
field.  Those are city/town, county, state and country.

Including more than that, separated by commas from the city/town (street 
address, city, county, state or cemetery name, city, county
state) makes it impossible to properly sort locations in the Master Location 
List and the Expand/Contract Location Parts can't correctly do its job.

I would put what you're referring to in Events - using the "Description" field 
for the cemetery name, street address, etc and any other information in the 
Notes (grave site, etc).

The Event Sentence reads:

He was buried in the Mountain View Cemetery at Dillon, Beaveryhead,Montana, 
United States on 29 Sept 2007"

or

He resided at 123 Main Street from 1958 to 1996 in City, County, State


Of course you can always edit the Event Sentence Definition if you don't like 
the order they print out on.

I know we should use the Event addresses for birth, bap/chr, death, burial, 
marriage, etc, but since that's not as useful as the Master Event when 
reporting, I prefer the event. I'd love to find out if the programmers are 
making the event addresses more useful for reports beyond a simple list of who 
uses it or creating a Search List to print a report from that list.

Many people are happy with their detailed address or cemetery or building name 
in the locations - it's up to you but not everything will work correctly if you 
add that, separating with commas.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree





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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Sherry/Support]

If you follow the suggestions in "Getting It Right" by Mary H.
Slawson, only the governmental jurisdictions will be included in the
location field.  Those are city/town, county, state and country.

Including more than that, separated by commas from the city/town
(street address, city, county, state or cemetery name, city, county
state) makes it impossible to properly sort locations in the Master
Location List and the Expand/Contract Location Parts can't correctly
do its job.

I would put what you're referring to in Events - using the
"Description" field for the cemetery name, street address, etc and any
other information in the Notes (grave site, etc).

The Event Sentence reads:

He was buried in the Mountain View Cemetery at Dillon,
Beaveryhead,Montana, United States on 29 Sept 2007"

or

He resided at 123 Main Street from 1958 to 1996 in City, County, State


Of course you can always edit the Event Sentence Definition if you
don't like the order they print out on.

I know we should use the Event addresses for birth, bap/chr, death,
burial, marriage, etc, but since that's not as useful as the Master
Event when reporting, I prefer the event. I'd love to find out if the
programmers are making the event addresses more useful for reports
beyond a simple list of who uses it or creating a Search List to print
a report from that list.

Many people are happy with their detailed address or cemetery or
building name in the locations - it's up to you but not everything
will work correctly if you add that, separating with commas.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Tony Rolfe  wrote:
> On 04 November 2012 00:46 Sherry/Support said:
>
> "If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't
> recommend for several reasons)"
>
> Sherry, can you please clarify this?
>
> I have all details in locations. Street numbers and Street names, Church
> names, Cemetery names etc. with each field separated by commas.
>
> My biggest includes grave number, section number, Cemetery name, street
> address, town, county, England.
>
> I'm not having any problems that I'm aware of, but I can geolocate
> everything and it keeps everything together.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Ward Walker]

I prefer -, rather than the reverse, for sorting
reasons in the master location list. It works for hospitals too. (I don't
capture street addresses, unless in the notes narrative.)

To find the county or find the approximate lat/long using the Geo-database,
just temporarily drop the cemetery/hospital name, observe the results, then
add the cemetery/hospital name back in.

   Ward

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:26 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

On 2012/11/04 13:36, ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote:

> Well at least I have personally verified each single location so that is
> good
> enough for me. It was just a curiosity the way Sherry mentioned the dash.

Her use of the hyphen effectively makes the cemetery part of the town name.
If
you then use the Geo-database search, it should fail.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/11/04 13:36, ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote:

> Well at least I have personally verified each single location so that is good
> enough for me. It was just a curiosity the way Sherry mentioned the dash.

Her use of the hyphen effectively makes the cemetery part of the town name. If
you then use the Geo-database search, it should fail.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[ArdenholmeGenealogy]

Thanks Ron, I thought that would be the case as can be seen when using the 
mapping feature and geo-verifying the locations.

Well at least I have personally verified each single location so that is good 
enough for me. It was just a curiosity the way Sherry mentioned the dash.

Thanks anyway,

Jemima

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 04 November 2012 11:18
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

Jemima,

The Four Field Convention was designed by Americans for America, full stop. It 
does not work for those of use who live in the UK, which is an alliance of 
countries. Whenever have you written "England, UK"? If it was anything other 
than an alliance how could a constituent part (Scotland) propose to leave?

And since when have we had "County, ,England"? There is not, and never has been 
any layer between our counties and the country. My advice, include our 
locations, and for that matter those of every country, as they are used by the 
locals, and not by an artificial construction which was never designed for 
worldwide use. Furthermore when looking up locations I use a Gazetter published 
by the country concerned. For us the Geo Locator does gives the wrong answer.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


"ArdenholmeGenealogy"  wrote:

>I realise that this is focused on the USA County Verifier but your answer 
>below, Sherry, prompted me - does the cemetery-town using the dash work 
>equally for UK locations?
>
>I have been entering places into Legacy for many years and most of them have 
>street names with house numbers but they are all in the town placefield before 
>the first comma so should the street names be dashed along with the 
>village/town/city before the first comma followed by county, , country - but 
>another problem comes up where state should be as we don’t have states. Or 
>would England, Scotland, Wales be classified as such and then the country is 
>United Kingdom or Great Britain?
>
>For example I could say 12 Merridash Place-Bristol, South Gloucestershire, 
>England, United Kingdom ?? Or it wouldn’t work? Is there a UK verifier for us 
>UK people?!
>
>Any ideas please?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Jemima
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
>Sent: 04 November 2012 00:46
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
>Pat,
>
>If you find a problem in the USA County Verifier, please write to 
>supp...@legacyfamilytree.com, directing it to my attention, and I'll research 
>it and get it corrected as appropriate.
>
>The cemetery one of my ancestors was buried is in now in a different county 
>than when he was buried. So you can't say it doesn't matter if you use the 
>current county or historical. County boundaries changed around cemeteries as 
>well as around towns.
>
>If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't recommend 
>for several reasons), you should enter it as cemetery-town, county, state, 
>country so Legacy can correctly identify the county. Do not put a comma 
>between the cemetery and town name - use a dash instead.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Sherry
>Technical Support
>Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>.
>>
>> Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when
>> you're entering  county before it existed..
>>
>> Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm
>> happy with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still
>> there but Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.
>>
>> Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Jenny M Benson]

On 04/11/2012 11:17, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Jemima,
>
> The Four Field Convention was designed by Americans for America, full
> stop. It does not work for those of use who live in the UK, which is
> an alliance of countries. Whenever have you written "England, UK"? If
> it was anything other than an alliance how could a constituent part
> (Scotland) propose to leave?
>
> And since when have we had "County, ,England"? There is not, and
> never has been any layer between our counties and the country. My
> advice, include our locations, and for that matter those of every
> country, as they are used by the locals, and not by an artificial
> construction which was never designed for worldwide use. Furthermore
> when looking up locations I use a Gazetter published by the country
> concerned. For us the Geo Locator does gives the wrong answer.

Ron Ferguson may now be away from LUG for a short while as he has to
take his hobby horse back to its stable!!

(I think Ron and I know each's senses of humour well enough that he will
not be offended by that.)
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Ron Ferguson]

Jemima,

The Four Field Convention was designed by Americans for America, full stop. It 
does not work for those of use who live in the UK, which is an alliance of 
countries. Whenever have you written "England, UK"? If it was anything other 
than an alliance how could a constituent part (Scotland) propose to leave?

And since when have we had "County, ,England"? There is not, and never has been 
any layer between our counties and the country. My advice, include our 
locations, and for that matter those of every country, as they are used by the 
locals, and not by an artificial construction which was never designed for 
worldwide use. Furthermore when looking up locations I use a Gazetter published 
by the country concerned. For us the Geo Locator does gives the wrong answer.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


"ArdenholmeGenealogy"  wrote:

>I realise that this is focused on the USA County Verifier but your answer 
>below, Sherry, prompted me - does the cemetery-town using the dash work 
>equally for UK locations?
>
>I have been entering places into Legacy for many years and most of them have 
>street names with house numbers but they are all in the town placefield before 
>the first comma so should the street names be dashed along with the 
>village/town/city before the first comma followed by county, , country - but 
>another problem comes up where state should be as we don’t have states. Or 
>would England, Scotland, Wales be classified as such and then the country is 
>United Kingdom or Great Britain?
>
>For example I could say 12 Merridash Place-Bristol, South Gloucestershire, 
>England, United Kingdom ?? Or it wouldn’t work? Is there a UK verifier for us 
>UK people?!
>
>Any ideas please?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Jemima
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
>Sent: 04 November 2012 00:46
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
>Pat,
>
>If you find a problem in the USA County Verifier, please write to 
>supp...@legacyfamilytree.com, directing it to my attention, and I'll research 
>it and get it corrected as appropriate.
>
>The cemetery one of my ancestors was buried is in now in a different county 
>than when he was buried. So you can't say it doesn't matter if you use the 
>current county or historical. County boundaries changed around cemeteries as 
>well as around towns.
>
>If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't recommend 
>for several reasons), you should enter it as cemetery-town, county, state, 
>country so Legacy can correctly identify the county. Do not put a comma 
>between the cemetery and town name - use a dash instead.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Sherry
>Technical Support
>Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>.
>>
>> Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when
>> you're entering  county before it existed..
>>
>> Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm
>> happy with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still
>> there but Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.
>>
>> Pat


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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[ArdenholmeGenealogy]

I realise that this is focused on the USA County Verifier but your answer 
below, Sherry, prompted me - does the cemetery-town using the dash work equally 
for UK locations?

I have been entering places into Legacy for many years and most of them have 
street names with house numbers but they are all in the town placefield before 
the first comma so should the street names be dashed along with the 
village/town/city before the first comma followed by county, , country - but 
another problem comes up where state should be as we don’t have states. Or 
would England, Scotland, Wales be classified as such and then the country is 
United Kingdom or Great Britain?

For example I could say 12 Merridash Place-Bristol, South Gloucestershire, 
England, United Kingdom ?? Or it wouldn’t work? Is there a UK verifier for us 
UK people?!

Any ideas please?

Many thanks,

Jemima

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 04 November 2012 00:46
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

Pat,

If you find a problem in the USA County Verifier, please write to 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com, directing it to my attention, and I'll research 
it and get it corrected as appropriate.

The cemetery one of my ancestors was buried is in now in a different county 
than when he was buried. So you can't say it doesn't matter if you use the 
current county or historical. County boundaries changed around cemeteries as 
well as around towns.

If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't recommend 
for several reasons), you should enter it as cemetery-town, county, state, 
country so Legacy can correctly identify the county. Do not put a comma between 
the cemetery and town name - use a dash instead.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
.
>
> Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when
> you're entering  county before it existed..
>
> Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm
> happy with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still
> there but Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.
>
> Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Sherry/Support]

Pat,

If you find a problem in the USA County Verifier, please write to
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com, directing it to my attention, and I'll
research it and get it corrected as appropriate.

The cemetery one of my ancestors was buried is in now in a different
county than when he was buried. So you can't say it doesn't matter if
you use the current county or historical. County boundaries changed
around cemeteries as well as around towns.

If you put the cemetery name in the location field (which we don't
recommend for several reasons), you should enter it as cemetery-town,
county, state, country so Legacy can correctly identify the county. Do
not put a comma between the cemetery and town name - use a dash
instead.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
.
>
> Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when you're
> entering  county before it existed..
>
> Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm happy
> with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still there but
> Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.
>
> Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Lloyd Hite]

On 11/3/2012 4:54 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Rootsweb will give you the current county:
> http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi
>
> I know of nothing other than Animap for historical locations.
>
> Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when
> you're entering  county before it existed..
>
> Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm
> happy with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still
> there but Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.
>
> Pat
Thank you Pat. That is exactly what I want. It is quick to access.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Thomas Ramey]

You might also try
http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=132:1:1670102714124082
Tom


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:

> Rootsweb will give you the current county:
> http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi
>
> I know of nothing other than Animap for historical locations.
>
> Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when
> you're entering  county before it existed..
>
> Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm
> happy with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still there
> but Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.
>
> Pat
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> The thing I like best about Animap is thatit gives you the county over
>> time ... county boundaries change so much over time ... town often "move"
>> from one county to another ... important when one is researching previous
>> generations
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> In response to:
>>
>> I did forget to mention, Lloyd, that AniMap's SiteFinder will provide the
>> County and the coordinates. I purchased this through Legacy I believe. It
>> includes other items in a given town as well.
>>
>> Kay
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Lloyd Hite
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations
>>
>> On 11/3/2012 12:37 PM, Kay Fordham wrote:
>> > My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you
>> > the county.
>> > KF
>> Thank you, Kay. I appreciate the information.
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Pat Hickin]

Rootsweb will give you the current county:
http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi

I know of nothing other than Animap for historical locations.

Legacy is good but not totally accurate as far as clueing you in when
you're entering  county before it existed..

Also when you are entering burial info -- as far as I'm concerned I'm happy
with the current county since the remains are ordinarily still there but
Legacy doesn't like it -- tho' that's easy enough to ignore.

Pat

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM,  wrote:

>
>
>
> The thing I like best about Animap is thatit gives you the county over
> time ... county boundaries change so much over time ... town often "move"
> from one county to another ... important when one is researching previous
> generations
>
> Lee
>
> In response to:
>
> I did forget to mention, Lloyd, that AniMap's SiteFinder will provide the
> County and the coordinates. I purchased this through Legacy I believe. It
> includes other items in a given town as well.
>
> Kay
> - Original Message -
> From: Lloyd Hite
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
> On 11/3/2012 12:37 PM, Kay Fordham wrote:
> > My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you
> > the county.
> > KF
> Thank you, Kay. I appreciate the information.
>
> Lloyd
>
> 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[lbruch]

The thing I like best about Animap is thatit gives you the county over
time ... county boundaries change so much over time ... town often "move"
from one county to another ... important when one is researching previous
generations

Lee

In response to:

I did forget to mention, Lloyd, that AniMap's SiteFinder will provide the
County and the coordinates. I purchased this through Legacy I believe. It
includes other items in a given town as well.

Kay
- Original Message -
From: Lloyd Hite
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

On 11/3/2012 12:37 PM, Kay Fordham wrote:
> My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you
> the county.
> KF
Thank you, Kay. I appreciate the information.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Kay Fordham]

I did forget to mention, Lloyd, that AniMap's SiteFinder will provide the 
County and the coordinates. I purchased this through Legacy I believe. It 
includes other items in a given town as well.

Kay
  - Original Message -
  From: Lloyd Hite
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations


  On 11/3/2012 12:37 PM, Kay Fordham wrote:
  > My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you
  > the county.
  > KF
  Thank you, Kay. I appreciate the information.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Nut]

On 11/3/2012 11:18 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> Be aware that any counties you find are for*current*  counties, not
> historical counties that the city/town were in during the time of the
> event.

Excellent point ! You always want the historical locations.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Nut]

On 11/3/2012 10:28 AM, Lloyd Hite wrote:
> Hello List,
> In Legacy, how do you find the USA County when you know the City and State?
>
> Lloyd

Tools > Geo Location Database. Fill in what you know, then search. Use
the drop down for each field, such as "Contains" "Exact" .. etc

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[R G Strong-genes]

>From within Legacy enter a new location as City, ,State, United States then
in the Master Location List find the new location then click on Edit, in the
window that pops up click on the button with the binoculars and this will
search for that location and if it finds it will have the county already
there. To open the County verifier from that window then click on the Flag
button and it will verify the county with the dates.

-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Hite
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations

Hello List,
In Legacy, how do you find the USA County when you know the City and State?

Lloyd


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Sherry/Support]

Be aware that any counties you find are for *current* counties, not
historical counties that the city/town were in during the time of the
event.

That's where USA County Verifier comes in - to let you know if you
have the correct county.

Also, the Geo Location Database in Legacy will direct you to the
current county for most any location in the US.


Sincerely,
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Kay Fordham  wrote:
> My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you the
> county.
>
> KF
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lloyd Hite
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:28 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
> Hello List,
> In Legacy, how do you find the USA County when you know the City and State?
>
> Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Lloyd Hite]

On 11/3/2012 12:37 PM, Kay Fordham wrote:
> My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you
> the county.
> KF
Thank you, Kay. I appreciate the information.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Kay Fordham]

My fastest means is to Google the info - Wikepedia always tells you the county.

KF
  - Original Message -
  From: Lloyd Hite
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:28 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations


  Hello List,
  In Legacy, how do you find the USA County when you know the City and State?

  Lloyd

  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Yvonne Morehouse]

I think you make a good point, Paula, but, I'd like a nice, timesaving
alternative to doing this task by hand.  And, it seems to me, such a
report would be an additional reason to upgrade and/or purchase our
favorite genealogy software.  I don't think anyone else has that
capability...am I wrong?  If yes, I'd probably purchase that software.

Smiles, Yvonne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Paula Ryburn]

Yvonne,  While I agree with you, I also get a lot out of sketching the
information by hand... same formats as Barbara R. used, but doing it a bit more
slowly makes me think, observe more.  Not that I wouldn't try the report if it
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From: Yvonne Morehouse 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, August 23, 2012 10:29:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

After watching yesterday's webinar with Barbara Renick, I now say I
should have used better key words (such as compare, contrast,
propinquity, side-by-side and patterns) when requesting a new Legacy report.

I think the ability to select people and compare and contrast time and
place data would be a huge benefit to researchers.  I hope members of
the LegacyUG agree and will add their support to this request.

Many thanks, Yvonne

P.S.  My initial report request and example was submitted to the Legacy
UG and to Legacy yesterday morning.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - putting the pin on the map in the right place

[Bruce Jones]

Glad you got it to work.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:

> Thanks for your reply, Bruce.
>
> At first I misinterpreted what you'd said - as did a friend who was
> having similar problems - and I was going to ask for clarification today
> to get it right.  But another read of what you'd written told me you
> were spot-on the first time, and it was my brain jumbling it up that was
> the problem.
>
> For others reading who might have done the same as me at first - the
> trick is to ignore where the marker is at present and right-click on the
> spot you want to mark.  A box will pop up asking you "would you like to
> set the Lat/Long to the Right Clicked location?"; answer OK and the
> marker will move to that point.
>
> (I was right-clicking on the marker before, which does not produce the
> desired effect!)
>
> Thanks again for your help, Bruce.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
> Bruce Jones said the following on 26/08/2012 5:21 p.m.:
> > When you display the location on the map, move the cursor to the
> > correct location and right click on the mouse.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Wendy Howard  > > wrote:
> >
> > I should know how to do this, but can't remember and don't see it
> > in the
> > help.
> >
> > How do I correct the pin in the map in the Master Location List?
> >
> > I'm looking at the address 1 Merriefield Avenue, Forrest Hill,
> > Auckland,
> > New Zealand.
> >
> > Google Maps knows where this is and marks it correctly.  But the Bing
> > map in Legacy thinks it's up the road on the other side from where it
> > really is.
> >
> > Can I change it to the correct location?
> >
> > Wendy
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - putting the pin on the map in the right place

[Wendy Howard]

Thanks for your reply, Bruce.

At first I misinterpreted what you'd said - as did a friend who was
having similar problems - and I was going to ask for clarification today
to get it right.  But another read of what you'd written told me you
were spot-on the first time, and it was my brain jumbling it up that was
the problem.

For others reading who might have done the same as me at first - the
trick is to ignore where the marker is at present and right-click on the
spot you want to mark.  A box will pop up asking you "would you like to
set the Lat/Long to the Right Clicked location?"; answer OK and the
marker will move to that point.

(I was right-clicking on the marker before, which does not produce the
desired effect!)

Thanks again for your help, Bruce.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Bruce Jones said the following on 26/08/2012 5:21 p.m.:
> When you display the location on the map, move the cursor to the
> correct location and right click on the mouse.
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Wendy Howard  > wrote:
>
> I should know how to do this, but can't remember and don't see it
> in the
> help.
>
> How do I correct the pin in the map in the Master Location List?
>
> I'm looking at the address 1 Merriefield Avenue, Forrest Hill,
> Auckland,
> New Zealand.
>
> Google Maps knows where this is and marks it correctly.  But the Bing
> map in Legacy thinks it's up the road on the other side from where it
> really is.
>
> Can I change it to the correct location?
>
> Wendy
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - putting the pin on the map in the right place

[Bruce Jones]

When you display the location on the map, move the cursor to the correct
location and right click on the mouse.

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:

> I should know how to do this, but can't remember and don't see it in the
> help.
>
> How do I correct the pin in the map in the Master Location List?
>
> I'm looking at the address 1 Merriefield Avenue, Forrest Hill, Auckland,
> New Zealand.
>
> Google Maps knows where this is and marks it correctly.  But the Bing
> map in Legacy thinks it's up the road on the other side from where it
> really is.
>
> Can I change it to the correct location?
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Yvonne Morehouse]

After watching yesterday's webinar with Barbara Renick, I now say I
should have used better key words (such as compare, contrast,
propinquity, side-by-side and patterns) when requesting a new Legacy report.

I think the ability to select people and compare and contrast time and
place data would be a huge benefit to researchers.  I hope members of
the LegacyUG agree and will add their support to this request.

Many thanks, Yvonne

P.S.  My initial report request and example was submitted to the Legacy
UG and to Legacy yesterday morning.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Jenny M Benson]

On 22/08/2012 19:55, Judith wrote:
> On the Mapping Screen, under Lat, what does the V stand for, and also I've 
> seen an L.

As with most, if not all, Legacy screens, if you click on the Help
button for that screen you will be taken directly to relevant information.

In this case you will learn that V is for a Location which has been
Geo-coded by Bing Maps and L indicates a Location which the user has
coded or has been coded through Legacy's Geo Location Database.

There are other symbols you might find in that column, which are also
detailed in the Help file.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Judith]

If you have Legacy Deluxe you can get a visual view of where a person and their 
family members lived using the Mapping icon on the tool bar.
It generates a map with pushpins on each location where the family lived for 
events in the persons life and for birth and death of parents and children.

To see what occurred at each location hover your mouse pointer on the pushpin 
and a popup will list the events that occurred there with the dates.

This is not the written report you wanted and it only works for one person and 
their immediate family but it may help you quickly find the data you want for 
the report which you could use other software to create.

Brian
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Brian:  On the Mapping Screen, under Lat, what does the V stand for, and also 
I've seen an L.
Thanks,
Judith




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Brian/Support]

If you have Legacy Deluxe you can get a visual view of where a person
and their family members lived using the Mapping icon on the tool bar.
It generates a map with pushpins on each location where the family lived
for events in the persons life and for birth and death of parents and
children.

To see what occurred at each location hover your mouse pointer on the
pushpin and a popup will list the events that occurred there with the dates.

This is not the written report you wanted and it only works for one
person and their immediate family but it may help you quickly find the
data you want for the report which you could use other software to create.

Brian
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On 22/08/2012 11:28, Yvonne Morehouse wrote:
> To see where family members (or any one else) lived in comparison to one
> another
>
> I want to:
> 1.  Select any 10 people.
> 2.  Produce a report by year to show (over the life span of the 10
> people) where they lived.
>
> Year Suzy  Harry .plus 8 more people
> 1932New York   Cincinnati
> 1933New York   Baltimore
>
> Assume Suzy is born first in 1932 so the report starts in year 1932.
>
> The last born individual is John (not included above) born in 1950.
> John is also the longest lived person and dies in 1960.  The report
> would pick up John in 1950 and end with his death in 1960.
>
> I'm also sending this to the Legacy Suggest list.
>
> Thanks, Yvonne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Yvonne Morehouse]

To see where family members (or any one else) lived in comparison to one
another

I want to:
1.  Select any 10 people.
2.  Produce a report by year to show (over the life span of the 10
people) where they lived.

Year Suzy  Harry .plus 8 more people
1932New York   Cincinnati
1933New York   Baltimore

Assume Suzy is born first in 1932 so the report starts in year 1932.

The last born individual is John (not included above) born in 1950.
John is also the longest lived person and dies in 1960.  The report
would pick up John in 1950 and end with his death in 1960.

I'm also sending this to the Legacy Suggest list.

Thanks, Yvonne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Brian/Support]

Not at this time.

We are happy to consider suggestions for new features.

In Legacy 6.0 and 7.0 you can suggest a new feature by clicking on the
link on the Legacy Home Tab Support Section

Other users can make a suggestion here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp

Use the drop down list in the first box to select a category, Legacy 7
or Legacy Charting.

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On 21/08/2012 19:23, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> Is there any way to produce a report showing how a particular location
> was used over time?  In other words, given a location, can we produce a
> report like
>
> Date  Name of Person Event
> 17 May 1854   Mary Smith (1543)  Birth
> 7 Apr 1861George Smith (148) Census
> Mary Smith (249)   Census
> Mary Smith (1543)  Census
>
> etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I put them in the Location Notes, and whenever I go there I see them and 
remember. Good Luck.



 From: Marg Strong 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?


Thanks Richard. I've seen the option to use the double brackets noted before, 
but with my memory, the more I see it mentioned the more likely I'll remember 
when I need it!




>
> From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:45 PM
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>
>
>Since each location has on its 'page' room enough to list different 
>names/dates for this place, you could use [[ ]] to hide as needed.
> 
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[Marg Strong]

Thanks Richard. I've seen the option to use the double brackets noted before, 
but with my memory, the more I see it mentioned the more likely I'll remember 
when I need it!




>
> From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?
>
>
>Since each location has on its 'page' room enough to list different 
>names/dates for this place, you could use [[ ]] to hide as needed.
> 
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[Marg Strong]

Thanks for the example, Michele. I'm working with a census record right now 
that has a district listed and no county.





>
> From: Michele Lewis 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:02 PM
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?
>
>There is a notes section in the master location list. You can to actually 
>click on a location to see the notes box.  It is huge right under where the 
>short location goes.
>
>I am not familiar with Canada locations but South Carolina was also divided 
>into Districts and that is how I write it.  I put the district in the county 
>field and I add the word district so you know that I am not talking about a 
>county.
>
>
>Edgefield, Edgefield District, South Carolina, United States
>
>
>Michele
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Since each location has on its 'page' room enough to list different names/dates 
for this place, you could use [[ ]] to hide as needed.
 



 From: Marg Strong 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?


Please refresh my memory. I know it's important to record the location as it 
was during the time the record was taken. For example I have some that were 
listed (by ancestry.com) as being in Carleton, Ontario; and Carleton, Ottawa 
Ontario. This is what a search showed me:

Carleton County was established in 1798.

>From 1798-1824 this county was part of the Johnstown District. From 1824-1838 
>Bathurst District, and finally 1838-1849 the Dalhousie District. In 1849 the 
>districts were abolished and counties took over.

In 1968 Carleton County was 'dissolved' in favour of a new municipality. And in 
1969 became known as the Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton. On 1 Jan 
2001 this changed and became the City of Ottawa


One record was in 1891 and one in 1926. So when I enter the location, it should 
be Carleton (County) instead of Carlton, Ottawa, Ontario?  And if any records 
are found for between 1969-2001, would you put in the location: 
Ottawa-Carleton, Ontario? And if it was during the "district" years, would you 
note the district in the location (which would then go into the master location 
list). Or am I not getting the way to do it at all?


Another question, I couldn't find a place in the master location list for 
notes. It would be nice to note the history of the location but I wouldn't want 
to do it for each record. Is there a general place to enter it, where it would 
be associated with the location - ie Ottawa-Carleton? If not is that a possible 
feature suggestion - notes for the locations in the master location list?

Thank you.
Peggy


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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[Michele Lewis]

There is a notes section in the master location list. You can to actually click 
on a location to see the notes box.  It is huge right under where the short 
location goes.

I am not familiar with Canada locations but South Carolina was also divided 
into Districts and that is how I write it.  I put the district in the county 
field and I add the word district so you know that I am not talking about a 
county.


Edgefield, Edgefield District, South Carolina, United States


Michele


From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

Please refresh my memory. I know it's important to record the location as it 
was during the time the record was taken. For example I have some that were 
listed (by ancestry.com) as being in Carleton, Ontario; and Carleton, Ottawa 
Ontario. This is what a search showed me:

Carleton County was established in 1798.

>From 1798-1824 this county was part of the Johnstown District. From 1824-1838 
>Bathurst District, and finally 1838-1849 the Dalhousie District. In 1849 the 
>districts were abolished and counties took over.

In 1968 Carleton County was 'dissolved' in favour of a new municipality. And in 
1969 became known as the Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton. On 1 Jan 
2001 this changed and became the City of Ottawa

One record was in 1891 and one in 1926. So when I enter the location, it should 
be Carleton (County) instead of Carlton, Ottawa, Ontario?  And if any records 
are found for between 1969-2001, would you put in the location: 
Ottawa-Carleton, Ontario? And if it was during the "district" years, would you 
note the district in the location (which would then go into the master location 
list). Or am I not getting the way to do it at all?

Another question, I couldn't find a place in the master location list for 
notes. It would be nice to note the history of the location but I wouldn't want 
to do it for each record. Is there a general place to enter it, where it would 
be associated with the location - ie Ottawa-Carleton? If not is that a possible 
feature suggestion - notes for the locations in the master location list?

Thank you.
Peggy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[Tessa]

When you go to the Master List for Locations, there is an edit box. Pick a
location, hit the edit button and you have place to make corrections AND
place to put notes. I use this all the time for my history of area.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Marg Strong  wrote:

> Scratch that last question. I just found the place for notes in the master
> location list. Should have known Legacy would have it covered!
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Marg Strong 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2012 3:25 PM
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?
>
> Please refresh my memory. I know it's important to record the location as
> it was during the time the record was taken. For example I have some that
> were listed (by ancestry.com) as being in Carleton, Ontario; and
> Carleton, Ottawa Ontario. This is what a search showed me:
>
> Carleton County was established in 1798.
>
> From 1798-1824 this county was part of the Johnstown District. From
> 1824-1838 Bathurst District, and finally 1838-1849 the Dalhousie District.
> In 1849 the districts were abolished and counties took over.
>
> In 1968 Carleton County was 'dissolved' in favour of a new municipality.
> And in 1969 became known as the Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton.
> On 1 Jan 2001 this changed and became the City of Ottawa
>
> One record was in 1891 and one in 1926. So when I enter the location, it
> should be Carleton (County) instead of Carlton, Ottawa, Ontario?  And if
> any records are found for between 1969-2001, would you put in the location:
> Ottawa-Carleton, Ontario? And if it was during the "district" years, would
> you note the district in the location (which would then go into the master
> location list). Or am I not getting the way to do it at all?
>
> Another question, I couldn't find a place in the master location list for
> notes. It would be nice to note the history of the location but I wouldn't
> want to do it for each record. Is there a general place to enter it, where
> it would be associated with the location - ie Ottawa-Carleton? If not is
> that a possible feature suggestion - notes for the locations in the master
> location list?
>
> Thank you.
> Peggy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?

[Marg Strong]

Scratch that last question. I just found the place for notes in the master 
location list. Should have known Legacy would have it covered!




>
> From: Marg Strong 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:25 PM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations again: Location at the time of the record?
>
>
>Please refresh my memory. I know it's important to record the location as it 
>was during the time the record was taken. For example I have some that were 
>listed (by ancestry.com) as being in Carleton, Ontario; and Carleton, Ottawa 
>Ontario. This is what a search showed me:
>
>
>Carleton County was established in 1798.
>
>From 1798-1824 this county was part of the Johnstown District. From 1824-1838 
>Bathurst District, and finally 1838-1849 the Dalhousie District. In 1849 the 
>districts were abolished and counties took over.
>
>In 1968 Carleton County was 'dissolved' in favour of a new municipality. And 
>in 1969 became known as the Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton. On 1 Jan 
>2001 this changed and became the City of Ottawa
>
>
>
>One record was in 1891 and one in 1926. So when I enter the location, it 
>should be Carleton (County) instead of Carlton, Ottawa, Ontario?  And if any 
>records are found for between 1969-2001, would you put in the location: 
>Ottawa-Carleton, Ontario? And if it was during the "district" years, would you 
>note the district in the location (which would then go into the master 
>location list). Or am I not getting the way to do it at all?
>
>
>
>Another question, I couldn't find a place in the master location list for 
>notes. It would be nice to note the history of the location but I wouldn't 
>want to do it for each record. Is there a general place to enter it, where it 
>would be associated with the location - ie Ottawa-Carleton? If not is that a 
>possible feature suggestion - notes for the locations in the master location 
>list?
>
>
>Thank you.
>Peggy
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Daphne Eze]

Thank you very much. I will look up the archives.

Merry Christmas
Daphne Eze




On 2011-12-23 2:48 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 23/12/2011 21:16, Daphne Eze wrote:
>> I am cleaning up my locations list and have some questions.
>>
>> Format
>> Country, State/Prov, County, City
>>
>> I understand this format for Canada and the US. But for England,
>> Ireland, and Wales my understanding breaks down.
>>
>> Is it United Kingdom, England, County, City and where do parishes fit
>> in?  Or is it England, County, City? I'm confused!
>>
>> Also how do you handle cities or parishes that have changed counties
>> since the event such as a christening?
> If you look in the Archives for this group you will find dozens of
> messages on this topic.
>
> In a nutshell, England is the country and the next element is County but
> there are many instances where you will not be able to fit an
> English/Scottish/Welsh location into the "standard" 4 fields.
>
> The "correct" way to record locations is as they were at the time of the
> event and I think most people do it that way, but many will add a note
> somewhere to record the name change(s).
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Jenny M Benson]

On 23/12/2011 21:16, Daphne Eze wrote:
> I am cleaning up my locations list and have some questions.
>
> Format
> Country, State/Prov, County, City
>
> I understand this format for Canada and the US. But for England,
> Ireland, and Wales my understanding breaks down.
>
> Is it United Kingdom, England, County, City and where do parishes fit
> in?  Or is it England, County, City? I'm confused!
>
> Also how do you handle cities or parishes that have changed counties
> since the event such as a christening?

If you look in the Archives for this group you will find dozens of
messages on this topic.

In a nutshell, England is the country and the next element is County but
there are many instances where you will not be able to fit an
English/Scottish/Welsh location into the "standard" 4 fields.

The "correct" way to record locations is as they were at the time of the
event and I think most people do it that way, but many will add a note
somewhere to record the name change(s).

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Daphne Eze]

thank you

On 2011-12-23 1:36 PM, Mike Fry wrote:
> On 2011/12/23 23:16, Daphne Eze wrote:
>
>> Is it United Kingdom, England, County, City and where do parishes fit
>> in?  Or is it England, County, City? I'm confused!
> Drop any notion of the UK or GB :-) Stick with England, Scotland, Wales etc.
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/12/23 23:16, Daphne Eze wrote:

> Is it United Kingdom, England, County, City and where do parishes fit
> in?  Or is it England, County, City? I'm confused!

Drop any notion of the UK or GB :-) Stick with England, Scotland, Wales etc.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[Kay Fordham]

Richard & Jerry,

Rhode Island Colony did not exist in 1638 - hence, my problem. I know others
prefer not to use the location as existing at the time of the event and
that's okay. But not knowing this information has sent me looking in all of
wrong places for records.

In reading responses I am now wondering which "Notes" you are using that
makes the information readily available on reports.

Thanks for your responses.

Kay

- Original Message -
From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New


Easier? I use Rhode Island Colony in English Colonial America. Not accurate
but understandable. At the time, place names were not as specific.Rich in LA
CA

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, Kay Fordham  wrote:

From: Kay Fordham 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:35 PM

I've seen this discussed many times. I prefer to use the location as it was
at the time of the event. Searching the archives, most responded that they
show the current location in Notes. I'm currently entering family who
settled in Portsmouth, RI, in 1638 - starting out with my ancestor who had
14 children. I must add the current location for these parents and their
children - and then their descendants until the State of Rhode Island was
formed. It seems there must be an easier way. Any thoughts?

Regards,
Kay Fordham




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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[David C Abernathy]

Jerry,
They are NOT "Errors" but entries that are not within the Geo Map listing.

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

Just curious, David.  What errors are you talking about?  I'm only familiar 
with the County Verifier which tells you that a certain county did not exist 
until such and such a date, etc.

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 12/13/2011 9:03 PM, David C Abernathy wrote:
> Just ignore those "Errors" for these locations, they are NEVER going to 
> include ANY of the History of any location.
> Any location before 1776 time period should use the Colony name(s).
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[Jerry]

Just curious, David.  What errors are you talking about?  I'm only
familiar with the County Verifier which tells you that a certain county
did not exist until such and such a date, etc.

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 12/13/2011 9:03 PM, David C Abernathy wrote:
> Just ignore those "Errors" for these locations, they are NEVER going to 
> include ANY of the History of any location.
> Any location before 1776 time period should use the Colony name(s).
>
> Thanks,
> David C Abernathy
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> From: Kay Fordham [mailto:kayhawo...@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:36 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New
>
> I've seen this discussed many times. I prefer to use the location as it was 
> at the time of the event. Searching the archives, most responded that they 
> show the current location in Notes. I'm currently entering family who settled 
> in Portsmouth, RI, in 1638 - starting out with my ancestor who had
> 14 children. I must add the current location for these parents and their 
> children - and then their descendants until the State of Rhode Island was 
> formed. It seems there must be an easier way. Any thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Kay Fordham
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[David C Abernathy]

Just ignore those "Errors" for these locations, they are NEVER going to include 
ANY of the History of any location.
Any location before 1776 time period should use the Colony name(s).

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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:36 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

I've seen this discussed many times. I prefer to use the location as it was at 
the time of the event. Searching the archives, most responded that they show 
the current location in Notes. I'm currently entering family who settled in 
Portsmouth, RI, in 1638 - starting out with my ancestor who had
14 children. I must add the current location for these parents and their 
children - and then their descendants until the State of Rhode Island was 
formed. It seems there must be an easier way. Any thoughts?

Regards,
Kay Fordham




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[Jerry]

I guess I don't understand the reluctance to use the note field since
you only have to input it ONCE and it automatically populates the same
note for every instance in which that location name is used.  Plus, it
transfers well to websites in gedcoms, etc.

You could use Rhode Island Colony (or whatever you settle on for the
historical name), then just put a short remark in the adjacent note
field telling when Rhode Island became a State.

I'm one who does the opposite, putting in the note to tell what existed
before, but I understand the historical argument.

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 12/13/2011 7:46 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> Easier? I use Rhode Island Colony in English Colonial America. Not
> accurate but understandable. At the time, place names were not as specific.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/13/11, Kay Fordham //* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kay Fordham 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:35 PM
>
> I've seen this discussed many times. I prefer to use the location as
> it was
> at the time of the event. Searching the archives, most responded
> that they
> show the current location in Notes. I'm currently entering family who
> settled in Portsmouth, RI, in 1638 - starting out with my ancestor
> who had
> 14 children. I must add the current location for these parents and their
> children - and then their descendants until the State of Rhode
> Island was
> formed. It seems there must be an easier way. Any thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Kay Fordham
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Easier? I use Rhode Island Colony in English Colonial America. Not accurate but 
understandable. At the time, place names were not as specific.Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, Kay Fordham  wrote:

From: Kay Fordham 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:35 PM

I've seen this discussed many times. I prefer to use the location as it was
at the time of the event. Searching the archives, most responded that they
show the current location in Notes. I'm currently entering family who
settled in Portsmouth, RI, in 1638 - starting out with my ancestor who had
14 children. I must add the current location for these parents and their
children - and then their descendants until the State of Rhode Island was
formed. It seems there must be an easier way. Any thoughts?

Regards,
Kay Fordham




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Easier? I use Rhode Island Colony in English Colonial America. Not accurate but 
understandable. At the time, place names were not as specific.Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, Kay Fordham  wrote:

From: Kay Fordham 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations - Old Vs. New
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:35 PM

I've seen this discussed many times. I prefer to use the location as it was
at the time of the event. Searching the archives, most responded that they
show the current location in Notes. I'm currently entering family who
settled in Portsmouth, RI, in 1638 - starting out with my ancestor who had
14 children. I must add the current location for these parents and their
children - and then their descendants until the State of Rhode Island was
formed. It seems there must be an easier way. Any thoughts?

Regards,
Kay Fordham




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

[Paula Ryburn]

I meant removing of just the city, state and zip.

Current:
Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St.
John's Hospital, Detroit, Michigan)

Preferred:
Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St. John's
Hospital).

(even if I have the full address of the hospital entered in the address table)

And I will take a look at using Events as you do, but that would seem to remove
it from the actual birth and death or burial dates and locations.

Thanks, --Paula





From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:50:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

I'm not sure what you meant then... You were asking about removing the
duplcation of the addresses next to the locatons?



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Not what I meant, but thanks anyway.
>
> --Paula
>
>
> 
> From: Sherry/Support 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:07:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)
>
> On the Include tab of Report Options is an option "Addr for birth,
> chr, death, bur., marr". To remove the addresses from the report,
> deselect that option
>
> I have my cemeteries, hospitals, etc entered as Events because there's
> so much more flexibility with reporting on Events.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Paula Ryburn
>  wrote:
>> Sherry,
>> What bothered me about using the address table was that when I printed
>> reports to include addresses, I got something that looked like this:
>>
>> Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St. John's
>> Hospital, Detroit, Michigan).
>>
>> Too much redundancy.  So, now I have a mix of hospital (or cemetery) some
>> in
>> Location list and some in the Address list without any city or state.
>>
>> Do you know if there is a way to remove the re-printing of city/state?  If
>> not, I will submit a suggestion.
>>
>> Thanks,

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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

[Paul Gray]

Sherry and everyone,


I wonder if the duplication that Paula is referring to is that the city, 
state/province, and country can be recorded are (or more correctly, can be 
recorded) in both the location field and the address field.

Assume that one records a burial location with city, county, state, and 
country. If one then enters the burial address, one can put the cemetery name 
in the address name field, the street address in up to two lines of address , 
and then city, state, and country are duplicated. The address field, presumably 
because it is postal based (although admittedly US/Canada format) excludes the 
county.

I guess one could choose to enter just cemetery name and street address in the 
address dialog box. I have experimented and have chosen to put everything in 
the location field because 1) it transfers in GEDCOM better - yes, Legacy does 
export as ADDR tags but importing ADDR tags into other programs is hit and 
miss, while the location field transfers much more reliably, and I like the way 
putting everything in the location field prints on reports.

Just my personal preference


Paul Gray



I'm not sure what you meant then... You were asking about removing the 
duplcation of the addresses next to the locatons?



Sincerely,
Sherry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

[Sherry/Support]

I'm not sure what you meant then... You were asking about removing the
duplcation of the addresses next to the locatons?



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Not what I meant, but thanks anyway.
>
> --Paula
>
>
> 
> From: Sherry/Support 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:07:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)
>
> On the Include tab of Report Options is an option "Addr for birth,
> chr, death, bur., marr". To remove the addresses from the report,
> deselect that option
>
> I have my cemeteries, hospitals, etc entered as Events because there's
> so much more flexibility with reporting on Events.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Paula Ryburn
>  wrote:
>> Sherry,
>> What bothered me about using the address table was that when I printed
>> reports to include addresses, I got something that looked like this:
>>
>> Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St. John's
>> Hospital, Detroit, Michigan).
>>
>> Too much redundancy.  So, now I have a mix of hospital (or cemetery) some
>> in
>> Location list and some in the Address list without any city or state.
>>
>> Do you know if there is a way to remove the re-printing of city/state?  If
>> not, I will submit a suggestion.
>>
>> Thanks,


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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

[Paula Ryburn]

Not what I meant, but thanks anyway.
 --Paula





From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:07:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

On the Include tab of Report Options is an option "Addr for birth,
chr, death, bur., marr". To remove the addresses from the report,
deselect that option

I have my cemeteries, hospitals, etc entered as Events because there's
so much more flexibility with reporting on Events.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Sherry,
> What bothered me about using the address table was that when I printed
> reports to include addresses, I got something that looked like this:
>
> Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St. John's
> Hospital, Detroit, Michigan).
>
> Too much redundancy.  So, now I have a mix of hospital (or cemetery) some in
> Location list and some in the Address list without any city or state.
>
> Do you know if there is a way to remove the re-printing of city/state?  If
> not, I will submit a suggestion.
>
> Thanks,
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

[Sherry/Support]

On the Include tab of Report Options is an option "Addr for birth,
chr, death, bur., marr". To remove the addresses from the report,
deselect that option

I have my cemeteries, hospitals, etc entered as Events because there's
so much more flexibility with reporting on Events.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Sherry,
> What bothered me about using the address table was that when I printed
> reports to include addresses, I got something that looked like this:
>
> Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St. John's
> Hospital, Detroit, Michigan).
>
> Too much redundancy.  So, now I have a mix of hospital (or cemetery) some in
> Location list and some in the Address list without any city or state.
>
> Do you know if there is a way to remove the re-printing of city/state?  If
> not, I will submit a suggestion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
> Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
> Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
> Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
> Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>
> 
> From: Sherry/Support 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 12:15:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
> Not a programmer but I've been using Legacy since it was first released in
> 1997, became a beta tester in v3 and working for Legacy for 9 years so I
> think I can answer this question.
>
> The locations were designed to enter governmental jurisdicstions only - not
> building names, street addresses, etc.
>
> The Address forms were designed for the building and street address
> information.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:32 AM, David C Abernathy
>  wrote:
>>
>> Whenever and wherever you place the “address” within the “Location” you
>> will have a large listing, because each one will be a new unresolved
>> location.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish the “Programmers” would jump in and tell us how “They” designed the
>> “Locations” to be used?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David C Abernathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (addresses)

[Paula Ryburn]

Sherry,
What bothered me about using the address table was that when I printed reports
to include addresses, I got something that looked like this:

Jane Doe was born 1 Jan 1900 in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan (St. John's
Hospital, Detroit, Michigan).

Too much redundancy.  So, now I have a mix of hospital (or cemetery) some in
Location list and some in the Address list without any city or state.

Do you know if there is a way to remove the re-printing of city/state?  If not,
I will submit a suggestion.

Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 12:15:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations


Not a programmer but I've been using Legacy since it was first released in 1997,
became a beta tester in v3 and working for Legacy for 9 years so I think I can
answer this question.

The locations were designed to enter governmental jurisdicstions only - not
building names, street addresses, etc.

The Address forms were designed for the building and street address information.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:32 AM, David C Abernathy 
wrote:

Whenever and wherever you place the “address” within the “Location” you will
have a large listing, because each one will be a new unresolved location.
>
>I wish the “Programmers” would jump in and tell us how “They” designed the
>“Locations” to be used?
>
>Thanks,
>David C Abernathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Paula Ryburn]

I know I'm reading this thread a bit late, but... Well put, Kirsten!  Thanks!
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Kirsten Bowman 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, November 19, 2011 11:42:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations


Julia:

It seems you’re getting quick partial answers to your initial question because
it’s a very complex issue.  Legacy is basically designed to work with a 4-part
location field consisting of City, County, State, Country but it will
accommodate much more (or less).  If any of those four elements are missing you
can add placeholder commas to flag the missing data.  The benefit to this system
is that it will work well in conjunction with some other features such as
mapping.

There are also downsides to the 4-part location arrangement which you’re seeing
now.  Many users dislike the way placeholder commas appear in reports; lots of
people like to include full street addresses in the location field which aborts
the City, County, State, Country format to some degree; frequently you can have
a perfectly legitimate location containing fewer than four elements—or many more
than four; and sometimes you may have a location like “New York” and need to
identify whether it’s the city or the state, or you could have “(at) Sea,
Atlantic Ocean.”

Legacy is very versatile.  You can put just about anything you want in the
Location field and it will transfer in a GEDCOM without a problem.  Most of us
have tried various location data entry styles and picked the one(s) that work
best for whatever we want to produce whether it’s a website, specific report,
map, or whatever.  There are many (and conflicting) *recommendations* about how
to use the Location field but there are no set *rules*—only consequences
associated with one method or another.

Experiment with some of the options and see how they work for you.  If you
eventually decide you want to change the style it’s very easy to do global
changes from the Location List.

Kirsten
From: julia _
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations
  I guess I don't understand where is the harm from adding the word county. Does
this mess up my Gedcom should I choose to submit one somewhere/to somebody?

Julia




 From: da...@schmeckabernathy.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:57:07 -0800


“, how do I know that the first word is the name of the county and not the name
of a city?”
You don’t, that is why I always ADD the word County in ALL cases. I think it is
just plain stupid that these mapping sources have gone to this method. If one
does NOT know about this method, then they will not know if it is the City or
County that is being used.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations list

[Tim Rosenlof]

Do What ? You need to leave enough so we can see ?

Tim Rosenlof

On 11/29/2011 10:48 PM, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> That's a shame.  I wonder if there is any way of doing it through LTools
> with a bit of magic SQL.
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