Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: Frescobaldi has a heap more useful features though for serious use than this experimental website - that's not to disparage what is done here, it's a nice piece of work. The Implication that Mr Kulp made was basically not having to keep opening a PDF separately from the editor. Frescobaldi looks nice (although the pdf preview didn't work for me), I didn't mean to say anything against it. What I like about the web app is that one needn't install anything. I personally use vim and a shell script of my own for previewing. I wouldn't use either Frescobaldi or the web app for myself, I just meant the web app is great to give super-quick intro without having to install anything. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor
Completely Awesome! I'm going to show this to my students. They'll find this much easier than trying to deal with a separate editor, opening pdf reader, etc. Thanks for sharing! Jon On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:08 PM, padovani zepadovani.li...@gmail.com wrote: really great! It would be nice to be able to edit multiple files in a directory, so that it would be possible to work on more complex examples (that would require \include). congratulations! Em 2/3/12 3:10 AM, trevordixon escreveu: Now allows for compiling with either the latest stable version or latest unstable version. Click the arrow next to the preview button to choose the version. trevordixon wrote: I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10, but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier. Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they save, it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original. This could be useful for: Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess with. Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular development environment. Perhaps as your main editor someday. Future features might include: Ability to open and save to your hard drive. Ability to open and save to Dropbox. Open to suggestions. See it at: http://lily.sytes.net Let me know how it works for you! View this message in context: Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- http://zepadovani.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A problem with lilypond
2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: Hello, I am new to the list then I have not followed the discussion on lilypond, just do not know if I'm facing the problem that has already been discussed, if so I apologize. The situation is that I'm developing a site with some tests on music theory and I am using the language lilypond to generate the score of the tests, however, it is always generated an entire page, which is bad for making available on the site page, I were wondering if anyone has any solution to generate the image size only occupying the space of the score. This came up a few months ago here: http://old.nabble.com/creating-images-for-web-pages-td32223482.html Another problem is that when the sound is generated sometimes makes a loud pop at the beginning of the audio. Has anyone had this problem before? What to do to fix it? I've never noticed this before. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A problem with lilypond
2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: The situation is that I have to completely fill all the lilypond´s code on the site and then generate the score. It gets difficult to count the bars and the note durations and get right for the first time. I were wondering if there is someway to fill the code and at same time generating the score for me to see what I am writting? I don't know of any way to do this. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problem after I changed lilypond version
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Schermann Colette colettescherm...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hello I just change from 2.10.25 to 2.14.2-1 lilypond version. I had to adapt my style sheets to have aproximately the same design than before, but there is still things I can't make work properly: When I want to split the violin 1 part in two voices in the middle of the piece, the second voice appears at the end of the system (below the bass) and not beside the first voice. And this worked perfectly well with the former lilypond version. Thanks for your help! Colette Sorry but first question has to be whether you ran convert-ly on all of your files to update them? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MusicXML exporter (was Re: Lilypond lobbying?)
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in for US$100 toward the project. Not sure how much programming I offered a $100 bounty a couple of years ago on this idea and it still stands. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Writing makefile for simple project
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jesse Engle engle...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to write a makefile for a simple project with the following directory layout: ritual/ |-- Makefile |-- build/ |-- include |-- |-- defs.ily |-- |-- three-stroke-ruff.ily |-- |-- single-drag.ily |-- |-- ... |-- main.ly I'd like to have the makefile rebuild the project and place the .pdf and .midi output in build/ when there are any modifications to main.ly or any files in the include/ directory. I've been reading the `make' manual and have looked over the example makefile in the Lilypond docs but I'm still very confused over how to accomplish this. Could someone offer me some assistance? Thanks...Jesse Can you post the text of your makefile so we can see what you've tried so far? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Writing makefile for simple project
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Jesse Engle engle...@gmail.com wrote: Can you post the text of your makefile so we can see what you've tried so far? PIECE=ritual INCDIR=include INCS=$(INCDIR)/defs.ly \ $(INCDIR)/three-stroke-ruff.ily \ $(INCDIR)/single-drag.ily $(PIECE).pdf: main.ly $(INCS) lilypond $(OPTS) -o $(PIECE) $; \ if test -f $*.pdf; then mv $*.pdf build; \ fi This outputs the following: make: *** No rule to make target `include/defs.ly', needed by `ritual.pdf'. Stop. I don't know whether or not to use the automatic variables defined by make, and I'm also unsure about using the VPATH variable... Also, do I need to specify the .midi target separately? Help! :) ...Jesse Although I added the Makefile section to the docs, I'm not a Makefile guru and I had a LOT of help from more experienced folks on this list. It looks like there's no target defined in your makefile. Try adding something like this: .PHONY: score score: $(PIECE).pdf Then do the command make score and see what happens. I'm also going to post a working Makefile of my own on pastebin for you to peruse if you want: http://pastebin.com/1zAHCSCK -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: intro; art song example or template?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote: My first lilypond project is too notate some songs I wrote for soprano and classical guitar. Can someone recommend a template or even a finished song that I could begin with? Thank you for your help; Ivan Hi Ivan, If you're interested you can check out my song cycle Canciones para niños for voice and guitar, done in lilypond. http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/lorca.tar If you don't understand my file structure you can email me off-list. If you're familiar with Makefiles and Latex and such things, it shouldn't be too hard though. After downloading unpacking, cd to the dir and type make score to compile the whole cycle. Individual songs compile by make songtitle.pdf and are output in the PDF directory. Good luck with your scores. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!
Nice one, Graham! Did you forget to mention newly implemented automatic display of one-ee-and-a-two-ee-and-a under 16th notes for ease in counting? Jon On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: GLASGOW, Scotland -- April 1, 2011 -- The LilyPond development team is proud to announce LilyPond 2.14, the latest stable release of our award-winning music engraver. Music notation for everyone has never looked better! http://lilypond.org Following the open-source motto of release early, release often, we are making 2.14 available now. There are still a few regression bugs compared to 2.12, but we urge everybody to download 2.14.0 from the lilypond website when it becomes available and use it in their production systems. Let us know if anything doesn't work; we love getting feedback! We have introduced a new bug voting system on our website to allow us to better direct programmer effort: http://lilypond.org/website/bug-reports.html Other major new features include: * eyeglass markup, to remind musicians to watch the conductor at critical moments. * in tablature, frets can be indicated with colored letters instead of numbers. * The Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm is now fully supported for single-line markup due to enhanced integration with Pango, and we now use FT_Error in the prototype for freetype_error_string(). * 128th note downstems are now 0.15 staff-spaces shorter. The full list of new features is online here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/changes/index.html Having music engraving! Mike Solomon - Beaming, feathers, guy with no fear Janek Warchol - Upsteam, downstem, flags, feta-er David Kastrup - Keeping us honest by questioning Phil Holmes - Bug Meister, build system quester Benko Pal - Mensural notation, tonal inversion Ian Hulin - Guile 2.0 future portability guru Keith OHara - Fantastic regression bug fixer Neil Puttock - Core development, LSR import Xavier Scheuer - French stuffs, cautionary Patrick McCarty - SVG guru, texts handler Yoshiki Sawada - Japanese doc translator Nicolas Sceaux - Schemer extraordinaire Reinhold Kainhofer - musicxml2ly bloke Werner Lemberg - Fonts, bugz squasher Jan Nieuwenhuizen - Core development Han-Wen Nienhuys - Core development John Mandereau - Translation swain Trevor Daniels - Asst. doc editor Jonathan Kulp - Asst. doc editor Mark Polesky - Code cleanup-er Mats Bengtsson - Support guru Valentin Villenave - Web 2.0 Carl Sorensen - Frog master Francisco Vila - ES writer Joe Neeman - Spacing guru Dmytro O. Redchuk - Bugs James Lowe - Doc gopher Colin Campbell - Ditto Marc Hohl - Bug nuker Graham Percival - me -- This email is best viewed with a fixed-width font in a screen size of 80x25 characters. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Favorite Lilypond-Score Printer?
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:45 PM, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: One constraint -- it must output comfortably onto 11x17 inch card stock. I'd much appreciate any thoughts. The vista of available contraptions is daunting! Our department has an HP Laserjet 5200 that's excellent for this. It does double-sided 11x17 easily so you can print booklet style and staple for very nice scores. It may be pricier than what you want but it's great. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unexpected STRING error with unapparent cause
This error is normally the result of a stray or missing curly brace { or }. Check this carefully first. Jon On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:25 AM, tbear2500 tbear2...@gmail.com wrote: I'm writing an a cappella piece in Lilypond (actually transcribing one which is probably copyrighted, hence all notes and titles being removed) primarily for a midi file with which to practice. I have six different files ('[songtitle].ly', 'intro.ly', 'soprano.ly', 'alto.ly', 'tenor.ly', and 'bass.ly') to keep the code reasonably organized and manageable. Everything but [songtitle].ly simply defines variables: intro contains the two intro parts, and the others their respective vocal parts (S/A/T/B). Everything worked flawlessly until I added to the tenor part after the intro (I worked my way from top down, so soprano and alto worked). After doing this, I got the error message: L:/Music/lilypond/[songtitle]/intro.ly:1:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING saintro = \relative c' { L:/Music/lilypond/[songtitle]/intro.ly:24:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING tbintro = \relative c { L:/Music/lilypond/[songtitle]/bass.ly:5:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING with no error text (it wouldn't tell me just which string it wasn't expecting) for the error in bass.ly. The structure (if this helps more) goes as follows: ([songtitle].ly): \version 2.12.3 \header { %title/composer etc. defined, no errors } \include soprano.ly \include alto.ly \include tenor.ly \include bass.ly \score { \new ChoirStaff \new Staff { %set up staff data, no errors \soprano } %same as above for alto, tenor, and bass \layout { } \midi { } } (intro.ly): saintro = \relative c' { %error here %note data, error free } tbintro = \relative c { %error here %note data, error free } (soprano.ly): \version 2.12.3 \include intro.ly soprano = { \saintro \relative c' { %note data, error free } } I then have the same kind of thing in alto.ly and tenor.ly. In bass.ly: \version 2.12.3 \include intro.ly bass = { %error somewhere here (according to description, unexpected string at character 0 of length 0) \tbintro \relative c { %one measure of note data, because I've been focusing on fixing the 'problem' with the code rather than writing the part } } I have searched everything I could find to search through rather thoroughly to no avail. What might be causing this and how can it be fixed? If it helps, I'm using jEdit to write the files and compile them (simply double clicking or running through cmd results in error and failure of compilation as well) with Windows 7. View this message in context: unexpected STRING error with unapparent cause Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: scorio.com A WYSIWYG-Editor with LilyPond-Export
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Johannes Feulner johannes.feul...@scorio.com wrote: On http://www.scorio.com/ a fully web browser based scorewriter project has started end of last year. Works here, under WinXP. I'm impressed! Pretty cool! My students might like to use this. Thanks for sharing. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fingeringOrientations
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Peter Buhr pab...@sympatico.ca wrote: G'day. Sorry, if I don't use the correct lilypond nomenclature. Below are two bars of notes. The first bar is done with 2 voices inline and the second bar is done with 2 voices out-of-line. In the first bar, the string positions are not on the left of the notes, while they are in the second bar. I would like to use the convenience of inline voices AND get the string numbers in the correct position. Is there some mechanism to accomplish this? (I have a sneaking suspicion someone is going to tell me this is a know bug and point me to some URL confirming it. ;-) It works if you put the orientation command inside the {} of each voice. I made it less clunky by defining the orientation command like so: lefty = \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left left left left) VoiceA = \relative c { %\set fingeringOrientations = #'(left left left left) { \lefty c'-1 g-21 } \\ { \lefty c,-32 } | c'-1 g-21 } HTH, Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: testing lilydev
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote: Am 03.01.2011 23:15, schrieb Helge Kruse: Am 03.01.2011 19:56, schrieb Phil Holmes: If you go to the page above, and look for Advanced tasks you'll find a link in the section indented with Note: I got it. Thanks, Is there any good place where to get help to run this in VirtualBox? I think about the screen resolution but don't want to stress the Lilypond mailing list with such questions. I'd suggest the VirtualBox manual, available from their website. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: key signature problem
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings - I'm running LilyPond 2.12.3 under Ubuntu. I'm trying to get a non-standard key signature : b-flat and d-flat. When I follow the 2.12.3 docs, I get the following error message. GNU LilyPond 2.12.3 Processing `key_sign_test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects...ERROR: In procedure denominator: ERROR: Wrong type argument in position 1: (unquote FLAT) I think I've found it. Try using a backtick ` instead of single quote ' on this line: \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 1) . ,FLAT) When I did this it compiled (and notice in the doc example it has a backtick). Jon Here's the minimal example file : Begin snippet % % key signature test file \version 2.12.3 test = \relative c' { \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 1) . ,FLAT) ((0 . 6) . ,FLAT)) \clef treble \time 4/4 a4 c b d | e4 g f a | } \score { \test } End snippet %% And here is the entry from the 2.12.3 docs : Snip Non-traditional key signatures The commonly used \key command sets the keySignature property, in the Staff context. To create non-standard key signatures, set this property directly. The format of this command is a list: \set Staff.keySignature = #`(((octave . step) . alter) ((octave . step) . alter) ...) where, for each element in the list, octave specifies the octave (0 being the octave from middle C to the B above), step specifies the note within the octave (0 means C and 6 means B), and alter is ,SHARP ,FLAT ,DOUBLE-SHARP etc. (Note the leading comma.) The accidentals in the key signature will appear in the reverse order to that in which they are specified. Alternatively, for each item in the list, using the more concise format (step . alter) specifies that the same alteration should hold in all octaves. For microtonal scales where a sharp is not 100 cents, alter refers to the alteration as a proportion of a 200-cent whole tone. Here is an example of a possible key signature for generating a whole-tone scale: \relative c' { \set Staff.keySignature = #`(((0 . 3) . ,SHARP) ((0 . 5) . ,FLAT) ((0 . 6) . ,FLAT)) c4 d e fis aes4 bes c2 } % Snip 55 Can someone please show me where I'm going wrong? Gratefully, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Montague City, MA USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: key signature problem
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings - I'm running LilyPond 2.12.3 under Ubuntu. I'm trying to get a non-standard key signature : b-flat and d-flat. When I follow the 2.12.3 docs, I get the following error message. GNU LilyPond 2.12.3 Processing `key_sign_test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects...ERROR: In procedure denominator: ERROR: Wrong type argument in position 1: (unquote FLAT) I think I've found it. Try using a backtick ` instead of single quote ' on this line: \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 1) . ,FLAT) When I did this it compiled (and notice in the doc example it has a backtick). Jon Here's the minimal example file : Begin snippet % % key signature test file \version 2.12.3 test = \relative c' { \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 1) . ,FLAT) ((0 . 6) . ,FLAT)) \clef treble \time 4/4 a4 c b d | e4 g f a | } \score { \test } End snippet %% And here is the entry from the 2.12.3 docs : Snip Non-traditional key signatures The commonly used \key command sets the keySignature property, in the Staff context. To create non-standard key signatures, set this property directly. The format of this command is a list: \set Staff.keySignature = #`(((octave . step) . alter) ((octave . step) . alter) ...) where, for each element in the list, octave specifies the octave (0 being the octave from middle C to the B above), step specifies the note within the octave (0 means C and 6 means B), and alter is ,SHARP ,FLAT ,DOUBLE-SHARP etc. (Note the leading comma.) The accidentals in the key signature will appear in the reverse order to that in which they are specified. Alternatively, for each item in the list, using the more concise format (step . alter) specifies that the same alteration should hold in all octaves. For microtonal scales where a sharp is not 100 cents, alter refers to the alteration as a proportion of a 200-cent whole tone. Here is an example of a possible key signature for generating a whole-tone scale: \relative c' { \set Staff.keySignature = #`(((0 . 3) . ,SHARP) ((0 . 5) . ,FLAT) ((0 . 6) . ,FLAT)) c4 d e fis aes4 bes c2 } % Snip 55 Can someone please show me where I'm going wrong? Gratefully, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Montague City, MA USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: key signature problem
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com wrote: I think I've found it. Try using a backtick ` instead of single quote ' on this line: \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 1) . ,FLAT) When I did this it compiled (and notice in the doc example it has a backtick). Jon Wonderful! That's it, Jon. I'm grateful for your quick reply. I don't recall ever having a problem (i.e., didn't have to use) with the backtick and Scheme before. I don't recall this either. I thought all such constructs used the single quote. :shrug: Glad to help, Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: music engraving resources in the internet
2010/12/19 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com: while i'm waiting for new Lilybuntu to be finished, i'd like to learn more about music engraving rules. I found lists of books on the No need to wait. You can use it now. http://files.lilynet.net/ I recommend lilybuntu2.1.iso Jonathan -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text inside the staff close to the notes
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net wrote: I am wondering if it is possible to write text inside the staff close to the notes or without the notes like in the attached image to show the name of the notes. -Marc When putting fingerings inside the staff, I override the staff padding property like this: \override Fingering #'staff-padding = #'() You might try a similar approach for the text markup. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problem with compillation of a large file
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear Jonathan, thanks for Your help. In the meantime, I found out, that the error was in the file violine1.ly I had to delete there, in line 5, the command Kurvenunterbrech which I've defined as: Kurvenunterbrech = { \hideCurvesFrom #'Fingering #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0) \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.KeySignature #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0) \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.TimeSignature #'(0.3 . 0.3) #'(0 . 0) \hideCurvesFrom #'Staff.Accidental #'(0.3 . 0.003) #'(0 . 0) } I don't know why this command caused the errors. Yes it compiled after commenting that command out. I suspect the command caused the error because it wasn't defined in that file, and because it wasn't defined in the \include file. Is there another file of definitions where Kurvenunterbrech is defined? If so just \include it and it should work. That took a *long* time to compile. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problem with compillation of a large file
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear community, I have a proplem with a large score. When I run lilypond, I get at the end the error message Preprocessing graphical objects...string:9:110: In procedure procedure-name in expression (procedure-name stil-proc): string:9:110: Wrong type argument in position 1: #f I can compile without problems all the parts of the score, but not the score itself. I also tried it with export LILYPOND_GC_YIELD=10 but without any success. The strange thing is: with the same machine I could compile the same file without problems, just a few months ago. I don't understand this ... If you'd like to post an archive of the source files somewhere (or email it privately) I'd be happy to test it on my machine. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: virtualization software for windows
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: We currently recommend VirtualBox Open Source Edition for lilypond contributors. However, the download page (no longer?) has binaries available for the open-source edition: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads Has it always been this way? Do our windows contributors just use the non-open source edition of virtualbox? Is there another webpage that supplies compiled versions of the open-source edition? (is this something that changed after Oracle bought Sun?) It looks like the non-OSE version is at least free as in beer so people could use that instead. I see that virtualbox-ose is what's still in the ubuntu repo though. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
new autobeam settings not working for me
Having trouble with new autobeam settings. I get the simplest thing to work: \relative c' { \time 4/4 \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) \set Timing.beatStructure = #'(3 3 2) c8 c c c c c c c } Shouldn't this group the 8th notes into 3 + 3 + 2? I can't get the beaming to change at all no matter what I do. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new autobeam settings not working for me
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Having trouble with new autobeam settings. I get the simplest thing to work: \relative c' { \time 4/4 \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) \set Timing.beatStructure = #'(3 3 2) c8 c c c c c c c } Shouldn't this group the 8th notes into 3 + 3 + 2? I can't get the beaming to change at all no matter what I do. Ok so now I've been able to make the beaming change if I am in 8/8 or 6/8 but not in 4/4 time, where it stays resolutely in groups of 4 + 4 8th notes. How do I alter the beaming of a 4/4 bar? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new autobeam settings not working for me
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: Hi, I suppose it is due to beamExceptions that is set for 8th in 4/4 (see Oscm/time-signature-settings.scm¹). Yep, I had just made and tested the change when this email came in. This works: \relative c' { \time 4/4 \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) \set Timing.beatStructure = #'(3 3 2) \set Timing.beamExceptions = #'() c8 c c c c c c c } But this behaviour is strange (non expected from a user point of view) and should be changed or at least documented. I can't see how it should be changed. It's totally under user control. There are three separate context properties that affect autobeaming, and all three need to be properly set. I can see that it needs to be documented better. I'll cook a patch. Thanks guys. I'll try it when I log back into my linux side. (I only have 2.12 on windows.) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new autobeam settings not working for me
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: On 12/4/10 6:33 PM, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 December 2010 02:26, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: I can see that it needs to be documented better. I'll cook a patch. Great, thanks! I've pushed a patch that does the following: 1) Identifies that beamExceptions can cause unexpected results 2) Demonstrates that there is a (2 2) exception in 4/4 time that causes Jon's example not to work, but that it will work if beamExceptions is set to '() 3) Demonstrates that 3/4 time has a (3) exception that causes 1/8 notes to be beamed in whole measures, but that clearing beamExceptions causes 3/4 time to be beamed (1 1 1). http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commit;h=ff89624de9566 c48f27ec827ad440bd00db46eda Awesome, Carl. Thanks for doing that so quickly. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond in a webapp, version 2
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carel Jonkhout carel.jonkh...@gmail.com wrote: He everybody, I have finished work lilydocs.com. It is lilypond in a webapp. You can save your work online like google docs. Check it out if you like. http://lilydocs.com Pretty cool! I'll keep the link handy. Thanks for sharing. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: What a cool book! I think I may buy the Kennan book and work my through your workbook! Maybe I'll do some real learning about music. BTW, congratulations on your tenure and promotion. Great news! Thanks Carl. Nice of you to say. Unfortunately with the Univ. budget in the toilet my wife (also tenured) and I could both end up out of work. Hopefully not but it's very uncertain right now. One small thing -- in the Colophon, you refer to a carrot. The proper term, I believe, is caret[1]. Actually, it's probably a circumflex[2]. Haha! What a dumb mistake! I'll fix it right away. Thanks for checking it out. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Brandenburg #3 - convert-ly fails
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net wrote: Excellent. I am trying to convert it to the latest version but convert-ly stops at version 2.5.18 and afterwards lilypond says error: file too old: 2.5.18 (oldest supported: 2.7.38) violin1pt.ly:6:2: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here # (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 16 2 2) 1 4) /brandenburg 3-1-2-lys/violin1pt.ly:7:2: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here # (override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 32 2 2) 1 4) error: failed files: /brandenburg 3-1-2-lys/violin1pt.ly Unbound variable: override-auto-beam-setting Which piece are you working on? I downloaded the 3rd mvmt of Brandenburg 3, ran convert-ly on all files (brought up to 2.12.3) and the full score compiled successfully (numerous warnings, but none fatal). Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Aaron Dalton aa...@daltons.ca wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Henry Flurry wrote: I was thinking of exploring the possibility of LaTex Lilypond. Has anybody out there done this kind of combo? My entire Master's thesis was a combination of LaTeX and Lilypond---both musical examples and the inclusion of an entire modern edition and apparatus. The musical examples were embedded in the LaTeX source and the individual pieces of the edition were contained in separate files. This would give you arbitrary control over the styling of each piece. My workflow: My counterpoint workbook is also done with LaTeX and Lilypond. It's an excellent combination. Source files are available here if you want to see: http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/ Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Syntax error
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:18 AM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote: I can't for the life of me figure out what i've done here. (new lily user) Working in lilypondtool 2.12.894 (jedit 4.3.2), with lily 2.13.36 Here's the error: %lilypond %args /home/alex/audio-projects/wobbly Processing `/home/alex/audio-projects/wobbly' Parsing... /home/alex/audio-projects/wobbly:138:37: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING \set Staff.instrumentName = Horn F 1 error: failed files: /home/alex/audio-projects/wobbly Processing time: 1 seconds Normally this error message is because of a missing curly brace somewhere. From the code you included it's impossible to tell where that might be--there's not enough code there. Check for missing {}. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: early music transcriptions
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Geisel Hanna hannasemailadre...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have two questions concerning transcriptions of medieval or renaissance music: How does one enter color brackets? I couldn't find them anywhere, but as they're rather basic I'd be surprised if they weren't supported. (My next question about this is probably going to be: How does one deal with colored ligatures or color overlapping ligatures?) I've just put a red ligature indication in my transcription of a Philippe de Vitry motet. My ligatures are actually done with analysis brackets, though, since there's some issue with ligatures and lyrics. Here's how I got the red bracket, though: \once \override HorizontalBracket #'color = #red Then I just make ligatures with the normal \startGroup and \stopGroup commands for analysis brackets. Are trecento measure signs supported, as quaternaria, ternaria, ... , duodenaria? Very grateful for any hints I remain with all the best wishes, Hanna Not sure about this. You might check the Lilypond Snippet Repository and the manual sections on Ancient music. HTH, Jonathan p.s. if you want to see the rest of my code I can send you an archive file privately. -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: early music transcriptions
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Geisel Hanna hannasemailadre...@hotmail.com wrote: How does one enter color brackets? I couldn't find them anywhere, but as Wait, are you talking about brackets indicating a change in mensuration? From black to red ink in the original manuscript? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different versions of LilyPond
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com wrote: On Wed 14 Jul 2010, 11:54 Urs Liska wrote: Hello list, Hello Urs! I would like to have several versions of LilyPond installed at the same time to be able to test lilypond code in different versions. What would be the best way to accomplish this on Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux? I recall having read something about a renaming/symlink solution on Linux but don't seem to find it anymore. Here is in short how i am managing it under Linux: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-06/msg00298.html I do believe that under windows i would use junction[1] for this, but i have not even tried. Any tips? Many thanks Urs ___ 1. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx -- Dmytro O. Redchuk Bug Squad ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user I wrote a passage in the Contributor's Guide about this a while back. Read section 3.8 to see how I do it. I only have two versions at once, though. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/concurrent-stable-and-development-versions Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff tuplets, again
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear community, I've tried a snippet for cross-staff-beamed tuplets, I've found in the snippet repository. Unfortunately, it does not work in the way I expected it. Here is my short example: \version 2.12.2 \include klavierstyle.ly rechts = { \override TupletNumber #'Y-offset = #kneed-beam \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 2/3 { \lira g 8 \reru e' \lira bes \reru d'' g' f'' cis'' ais'' fis'' ~ fis'' \lira f'! b | } } links = { \clef bass s1 } \score { \new PianoStaff = Klavier \new Staff= rechts { \rechts } \new Staff = links \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup #'keep-fixed-while-stretching = ##t } { \links} } If you follow the hint in the snippet's comments about using manual beaming for best results, then the numbers appear in (more or less) the right place. Try manually beaming the first and last triplet. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fyi - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote: I believe this gentleman uses LilyPond. http://www.oscarvandillen.com/Main_Page James I have a bunch of stuff engraved with Lilypond, including this: http://www.jonathankulp.com/Tarantella.html and this song cycle: http://www.jonathankulp.com/Lorca.html (source files not posted for that one but I'd be happy to share with anyone) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fyi - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bunch of stuff engraved with Lilypond, including this: http://www.jonathankulp.com/Tarantella.html and this song cycle: http://www.jonathankulp.com/Lorca.html (source files not posted for that one but I'd be happy to share with anyone) Jon Forgot this one, too, a work for large orchestra (source code posted): http://www.jonathankulp.com/MerengueOrchestra.html -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spacing miserable failure
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 April 2010 15:55, Jacob Rau ja...@mtu.edu wrote: Can anyone explain what's going on? So far, I've tried to RTFM, but I don't know which part of TFM I should be reading at this point. \version 2.12.2 Is this the version you're running? The reason I ask is that you've got a setting in your \paper block which will only work with 2.13 (they work too well in 2.13 :). Regards, Neil Following up with Neil's comments, I updated your file to the latest dev version 2.13.19 and ran it and the spacing looks like what you want. You might consider upgrading. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spacing miserable failure
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Jacob Rau ja...@mtu.edu wrote: Ah. You got it. Does anyone know of a more updated repo for Ubuntu? The version I've got is 2.12.2, the latest available through Ubuntu's software source. Blaah...this is making me wonder if I should use a distro that doesn't keep old software current... You can get a recent binary from lilypond.org. You'll need to uninstall your current version using the ubuntu package manager before installing the new binary, though. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Big Chords in PianoStaff
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I have another problem here, I tried to find a solution and I couldn't. Maybe it's very easy. I'll simplify the examples to make it clear. I have a line in a PianoStaff (actually it's for Harp in the original) and there is one single chord in the upper staff that is bigger that has some notes more suitable for the lower staff, with a bass clef. It's hard because \autochange and \change Staff DON'T work just for half of a chord, just for the entire chord. Ah, in this measure there is nothing in the lower staff. Is there another command that could split the chord between the staff in an optimal way, so each staff gets the more appropriate notes I don't know that there's a way for this to happen automatically, but it's definitely possible to get it to look the way you want. Check the Granados example on the LP examples page: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/examples#Examples I think it has some of what you're looking for. I'll attach the source file for you as well. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com \version 2.12.0 \include example-header.ily % % This is a brief passage from Enrique Granados % % Goyescas, Coloquio en la Reja. % % #(set-global-staff-size 17) \paper { ragged-right = ##f #(set-paper-size letter 'landscape) system-count = 1 } csh = \change Staff = high csm = \change Staff = middle csl = \change Staff = low crmolto = \markup { \italic \large cresc. molto } appassmolto = \markup { \italic \large appassionato molto } #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) global = { \time 3/4 \set fontSize = #1 \override Beam #'thickness = #0.5 \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t } upperVoiceOne = \relative c'' { \voiceOne \override TupletBracket #'transparent = ##t aes f'8\([ \times 4/5{g'32( aes g f g]) } es aes8[ \times 4/5{d bes'32( c' bes aes bes]) } es, aes es'8 d fis b d\) | % end m. 1 %--% c g' c4\( \voiceTwo bes es bes'\arpeggio\) \slurUp aes aes'16( bes bes' g g'8) % end m. 2 %--% \noBreak \voiceOne f aes d f8\([ \times 4/5{g g'32( aes' g f g]) } \set subdivideBeams = ##t \set beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) aes, aes'16 c f \times 4/5{ bes'32( c bes aes bes]) } \set subdivideBeams = ##f \ottava #1 es es'16 f f' d d' \appoggiatura f8 es es'16\) } upperVoiceTwo = \relative c'' { \voiceTwo s8 c8\ bes, f'[ bes aes' c' bes, d fis\!] s32 s32_\appassmolto s8. \voiceOne r8 bes'' es bes'- s4 \override Stem #'cross-staff = ##t \override Stem #'length = #28 \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag s8 \voiceTwo g,8 aes4 s4 } middleVoiceOne = \relative c' { \override Stem #'cross-staff = ##t \override Stem #'length = #32 \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag d!8\noBeam s8 s8 s8_\crmolto s4 % 1 s4 g bes\arpeggio8[ es' g] \voiceOne e,8( dis16 e) | % 2 \revert Stem #'length \revert Stem #'cross-staff \showStaffSwitch \csh \stemUp f4 s2 %s2. % beginning m. 3 } middleVoiceTwo = \relative c' { s2. | % 1 \override Stem #'cross-staff = ##t \override Stem #'length = #24 \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag s2 \voiceTwo e!4 | % 2 s4 \voiceTwo bes c es f8 f' aes es'16 d' bes, f' aes c8 bes' fis' | % 3 } lowerVoiceOne = \relative c, { \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##t \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t bes8 \csm \stemDown bes'' c es8 s2 \csl \stemUp \set subdivideBeams = ##t \set beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 16) s8 \hideNotes \slurUp \stemDown es,,64( bes'' s64 \unHideNotes \stemUp g64[ bes c d c]) s2 \set subdivideBeams = ##f bes,,8 \csm \stemDown bes'' c es8 s2 } lowerVoiceTwo = \relative c, { \voiceTwo bes2. \csh \once \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0 bes'' es g8 \csl \slurUp %\once\override Slur #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 4) es,,64 bes' es g s32. c64 s4 bes des bes,,2. } \score { \new PianoStaff \set PianoStaff.connectArpeggios = ##t %\override PianoStaff.Arpeggio #'stencil = #ly:arpeggio::brew-chord-bracket \new Staff = high \global \context Voice = upperVoiceOne { \upperVoiceOne } \context Voice = upperVoiceTwo { \upperVoiceTwo } \new Staff = middle \global \context Voice = middleVoiceOne { \middleVoiceOne } \context Voice = middleVoiceTwo { \middleVoiceTwo } \new Staff = low \clef bass \global \context Voice = lowerVoiceOne { \lowerVoiceOne } \context Voice = lowerVoiceTwo { \lowerVoiceTwo } \layout { \context { \Score \override TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f \remove Bar_number_engraver
Re: Big Chords in PianoStaff
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Is there another command that could split the chord between the staff in an optimal way, so each staff gets the more appropriate notes I don't know that there's a way for this to happen automatically, but it's definitely possible to get it to look the way you want. Check the Granados example on the LP examples page: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/examples#Examples Sorry, here's a simpler example right from the docs: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-keyboards#Cross_002dstaff-stems Cross-staff stems are what you want, I think. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Naming
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Tim Rowe digi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure I used to be able to do this, but now I can't. I must be getting forgetful! How do I get Lilypond to show chord names instead of jazz symbols (I'm not a jazzer!) In other words, I want C major 7 to show as Cmaj7, not as C with a triangle next to it. Check out this snippet: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=459 Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: error message from PDF viewer
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote: On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, Graham Percival wrote: We don't want to see any copyrighted file; quite apart from the legal issue, that would be too long. Please create a tiny example: OK. Here is a tiny example (attached). 1. I use Lilypond 2.13.18 on Fedora 12 to compile 2. I start Evince from my terminal to view the pdf. Looks fine to me. 3. I close Evince. 4. I see that Evince has left some messages in my terminal: ** (evince:8380): WARNING **: Failed to create dbus proxy for org.gnome.SettingsDaemon: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name Error: Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap Error: Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap Error: Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap Error: Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap Error: Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap Error: Illegal entry in bfrange block in ToUnicode CMap Press ENTER or type command to continue This happens to me, too. I'm also running Fedora 12. My solution is to use Acrobat Reader instead of Evince. Slower, but no more errors. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.13.16 crashes while processing old good file (2.8.8 and 2.12.3 do not)
Sorry, this didn't copy to the list first time. Not used to the gmail web interface...See response at bottom. Jon On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/3/23 Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com Hi. My problem (again, yes, my own,) now is that 2.13.16 crashes on a file, which can happily be compiled with 2.12.3 and 2.8.8 (2.13.0 segfaults, did not try others yet). Having no idea how to debug, i would like to ask what can i do to narrow down this problem. (Stripping the code to three stave do not help --- the problem disappears). Btw, uncommenting page-count and commenting out system-count gives strange result: lilypond says Solving 2 page-breaking chunks...[1: 3 pages][2: 3 pages] but produces 6 pages pdf (some pages with 1 system only). I've attached the (a bit stripped) source and log file. Please, help :-) Thank you, really. I got it to compile by running convert-ly to update syntax (had to add a version statement first) and then changing the paper block like this: \paper { %system-count = #9 % page-count = #3 ragged-bottom = ##f } Note that ragged-bottom is now false instead of true. It turns out to have three pages. Is that what you want? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Using Lilypond in LaTeX
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Keith Weintraub kw1...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I am creating multiple piano staves with text between them for analysis on a page. I would like to make sure that all staves on one page be the same width. Is there a way to force the line-width to be a certain size AND (sorry for shouting) force the staves (across separate \begin{lilypond} \end{lilypond} blocks) to fill the lines so they are the same width across the page? I have done something like this: \begin{lilypond} \layout { line-width = #150 ragged-last = ##f ragged-last-bottom = ##f ragged-right = ##f ragged-bottom = ##f } \score { \new PianoStaff \with { \override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching = ##t } \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t ... ... ... \layout{} \midi{} } \end{lilypond} I am sure that this is wrong and that I have cut and pasted a bunch of stuff that I don't really need. Any help that you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, KW In my counterpoint workbook I use included lilypond files for the exercises, each of which has the following parameters defined: \paper { ragged-right = ##f } global = { #(set-global-staff-size 24) } With only these two parameters defined, all of my exercises are the same staffsize and fill the same width of page. If you're interested you can see the source code and pdf here: http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/ HTH, Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish Lyrics Error
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Gus gus@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to add lyrics in Spanish to a song but I can't use the Spanish specific characters like the ñ and the á because I get an error: user:$ lilypond 1a_arriba-los-corazones.ly GNU LilyPond 2.12.2 Processing `1a_arriba-los-corazones.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32] Preprocessing graphical objects... programming error: FT_Get_Glyph_Name () error: invalid argument continuing, cross fingers programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+, file /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf/CenturySchL-Roma.otf continuing, cross fingers Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `1a_arriba-los-corazones.ps'... Converting to `./1a_arriba-los-corazones.pdf'... Thanks. Gus Check to make sure your source file has UTF-8 encoding and re-compile. I use foreign characters like his frequently without errors. If you still have errors, post a minimal example for us. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanish Lyrics Error
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Gustavo Caicedo gus@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what you mean. I use vim. user:$ file /mnt/sda1/opus/1a_arriba-los-corazones.ly /mnt/sda1/opus/1a_arriba-los-corazones.ly: ASCII text I guess it's set to ASCII. Is this the problem you're talking about? Yes. that's it. Open up your file in vim and do this command: :set encoding=utf-8 Then save and exit. Then run the file command and see if it says utf-8 instead of ASCII. Once it has UTF-8 encoding I predict your characters will appear correctly. When I do this, the file has to have a utf-8 character (á or ñ for example) in the file before it'll say utf-8 in the file command. Jon On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 20:58, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Gus gus@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to add lyrics in Spanish to a song but I can't use the Spanish specific characters like the ñ and the á because I get an error: user:$ lilypond 1a_arriba-los-corazones.ly GNU LilyPond 2.12.2 Processing `1a_arriba-los-corazones.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32] Preprocessing graphical objects... programming error: FT_Get_Glyph_Name () error: invalid argument continuing, cross fingers programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+, file /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf/CenturySchL-Roma.otf continuing, cross fingers Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `1a_arriba-los-corazones.ps'... Converting to `./1a_arriba-los-corazones.pdf'... Thanks. Gus Check to make sure your source file has UTF-8 encoding and re-compile. I use foreign characters like his frequently without errors. If you still have errors, post a minimal example for us. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: documentation help seriously needed
I should be able to handle some git committing / compile checking, and stuff like that if others can do the worst of the typing. Jon On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: Here's the current situation with the documentation. 1. we have a number of users who know a lot about lilypond, but are not familiar with git + compiling + our doc policies. 2. we have a doc editor on Windows who knows about git+compiling+doc policies, but knows relatively little about lilypond. 3. we have a number of open documentation issues, some of them critical [1]. If you belong to category 1, and think you might be able to help with category 3, please contact category 2 (CC'd on this email) or me. [1] http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=type=Documentationsort=priority Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book question
When on Windows I run these commands from the DOS prompt and it works fine. I think the problem is probably related to your $PATH. I remember once having to set up the path so that it could find the lilypond commands, but this last time I set up a windows VM and installed Lilypond, it automatically set up the path correctly. You should search the web for instructions on how to add directories to the path. You might also just try it at a DOS prompt instead and see if it works. Jon On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.cawrote: Hi all, How am I supposed to use lilypond-book on windows? I'm in a cygwin csh shell. Instructions say: To produce a PDF file through PDFLaTeX, use lilypond-book --pdf yourfile.pdftex pdflatex yourfile.tex lilypond-book is however not a recognized command. I then tried (after finding lilypond-book.py and some guessing) python 'c:\program files\lilypond\usr\bin\lilypond-book.py' foo.lytex and get: running latex...Dissecting...lilypond-book.py: error file not found: screech-boink.ly I can't find anything in the docs, but haven't read them cover to cover. (My miktex is fine.) Appreciate any help, Kees ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Musica ficta
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:35 AM, northofscotland strath100-...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: I have been trying to force musica ficta accidentals into brackets, but the notation \set suggestAccidentals = ##t fs? seems to be ignored. Is it me or Liliypond? You can do it with a \markup, but you will probably have to adjust the alignment and fontsize and whatnot: \relative c' { d e fis^\markup {[\sharp]} g } Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lily pond
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tim Cansfield tim.cansfi...@sky.comwrote: Hi my question is that after I have installed lily pond ( xp pro )I don't seem to be able to get an application window up, all I get when I double click the icon is the instructions to test the app, which work and produce the correct pdf , and a command window ?does this mean the application is wromgly installed or what.any help would be appreciated Yours sincerely Tim Cansfield Hi Tim. Everything is working properly. There's no application window. Read here for an intro to how Lilypond works: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/text-input#text-input Best, Jon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Octavation
Why are you posting the same message so many times with different subject headings? I'm very pleased to hear about this tool, but this is very poor etiquette. Jon On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Kirill Sidorov sidos...@yandex.ru wrote: There has been some progress, gentlemen. This concoction of mine might be of interest to some: http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ To my best knowledge, this tool is substantially more powerful than other existing Sib-Ly converters. You are welcome to try it out. The whole thing is absolutely free and open source, naturally. Written as a two-part suite: a dumb Sibelius plug-in that does nothing but dump the whole score into an .xml file, and the main part -- the interpreter -- that does the translation into .ly The interpreter is written in Ruby, packaged as a standalone .exe for convenience. More info at http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ Best, Kirill Sidorov Kirill-7 wrote: Forgot to mention why I need this at all. I'm writing a plug-in for Sibelius to export scores in LilyPond format. It runs a two-pass procedure (I'm giving a simplified picture): -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Octavation-tp5038198p27400063.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond vs Score
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Bobber bob...@kc0dxf.net wrote: I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the music manuscript program called Score. He says that neither Lilypond or Finale can produce engraving that is comparable to Score. And that most of the major music publishers in the world use Score. Is anyone familiar with Score and what makes it superior? One of my songs is published by G. Schirmer, and the songbook containing it was done in Score. This was in 1996. I'm not sure if Schirmer is still using it or not. It looks very good, though. From what I've heard it also costs quite a lot of money (or used to). Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Output to 600dpi png
lilypond --format=png -dresolution=600 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Athanasius Pelletier athp...@gmail.comwrote: I knew the command for this, can somebody refresh me, I am having a tough time finding it with google. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar lines are too thick!
Are you talking about the printed page or just the .pdf file on the screen? Sometimes the barlines on the screen look awful in different pdf viewers but then they look right when printed. Jon On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Athanasius Pelletier athp...@gmail.comwrote: The bar lines on my file are coming out very thick. I have set the global size to 25 and the bar lines are more noticable than the notes. How can I make them look normal? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.12 / 2.13
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM, James Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.comwrote: I don't know about linux, but on macintosh, there's absolutely zero problem, the binaries are all self-contained. It's just a matter of calling the right one. On 20.12.2009, at 17:45, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Hi, Is there an (easy) way to have both lilypond 2.12.x (stable) and lilypond 2.13.x (devel.) installed and useable on my system ? I'm always curious to try and test the latest features and bugfixes, but for distribution and sharing of lilypond sourcecode it is probably a better idea to use the stable release. I'm running linux fedora 12. -- I added a section about this to the Contributor's Guide a while back. Here's a link: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/concurrent-stable-and-development-versions#concurrent-stable-and-development-versions Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: which encoding for umlaute
UTF-8 ought to do it. Jon On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear community, which encoding do I have to choose, to get the german Umlaute (like ä, ö, etc.) properly shown on a windows-machine? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: No Work!
Did you follow the instructions in the text file? There's no graphical interface for this program. The text file tells you how you go about creating a score with Lilypond. Save the file by doing FileSave Astestfile.ly Then choose CompileTypeset File (my memory may be faulty here) It's possible to do this from a terminal but requires some additional setup on Mac. I suggest trying this method first. Jon On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Robert Ley robert...@gmail.com wrote: Re: Version 2.12.2-1 Downloaded both documentation and program. Downloaded fine. Dragged ap to applications folder. Put documentation folder there too. Double-clicked the application and I get a text file that says: save this file Select 'compiletypeset file' from the menu-- NOTHING comes up when I go to the LilyPond menu. It turns blue as if it's selected, but it doesn't do anything. The program also will not quit. Can I compile the file in Terminal somehow? Any other suggestions?? Macintosh System 10.5.8 G4 PowerPC MacBookPro Plenty of memory RDL ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond Windows 7
It worked fine on the Win7 release candidate I had installed as a virtual machine a while back. I would assume it works under the actual release as well. Give it a try. :) Jon On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Roberto Altschul roberto.altsc...@comcast.net wrote: Does Lilypond run under Windows 7? Roberto Altschul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with Lilypond
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:27 AM, François risb...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hello, I've downloaded Lilypond but when i try to start it, it says : Congratulations, LilyPond has been installed successfully. Now to take it for the first test run. 1. Save this LilyPond file on your desktop with the name test.ly. 2. Pick it up from the desktop with your mouse pointer, drag and drop it onto the LilyPond icon. 3. LilyPond automatically produces a PDF file from the musical scale below. 4. To print or view the result, click on the newly produced called test.PDF That's it. And i don't understand what do i have to do. Thank you in advance for your answer. Have you followed these steps yet? This is the way Lilypond works. It may help you to read the crash course first: http://lilypond.org/switch/howto Jon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi David (and anyone else who makes it here, wondering how to find the CG), The manuals don't tell anything about CG, where it is, what it does. URL:http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ does not tell. There is no directory of that name in the distribution. Hi all, At the risk of stating the obvious (to long-time lilypond contributors anyway), CG stands for Contributor's Guide. Jon p.s. to Graham and anyone else who was wondering: my wrists still aren't really better after months. I'm going to a specialist next week. I hope to be a productive LP community member again one day... -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: PDF - Ubuntu - Lilypond 2.12.2 problem
I recently did (nearly) the same upgrade on a virtual machine, going from Ubuntu 9.04 to Xubuntu 9.10. I ran your file on LP version 2.12.2 (downloaded from the lilypond site, not the repository), and it ran perfectly. I have 768 MB of RAM on this virtual machine. If you got lilypond from the Ubuntu repo, you might consider removing it the same way, then downloading the installer from lilypond.org. Good luck. :) Jon On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings - This is my second request for help on this issue. I think it really is a memory size issue. I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) and LilyPond 2.12.2. Until I upgraded (i.e., under Jaunty and 2.12.0), I was able to run lilypond *filename*.ly ( in this case vla_pos_etudes_1.ly), and a .ps and a .pdf file were automatically generated. Since upgrading, when I run lilypond vla_pos_etudes_1.ly I get the .ps file, but no .pdf, and I get the following error message: Drawing systems... Layout output to `vla_pos_etudes_1.ps'... Converting to `./vla_pos_etudes_1.pdf'.../usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/backend-library.scm:24:15: In procedure system in expression (system silenced): /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/backend-library.scm:24:15: Cannot allocate memory The .ps file looks fine, but I can't print a decent .pdf from it. When I open the .ps file and choose File Print, I get the usual dialogue box for printing; however, one of the entries is pdf, and it says, Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf does not exist!. When I do a print to file and select .pdf, the rendering is no good - boxes for note heads, for example. If I comment out significant chunks of the vla_pos_etudes_1.ly file, the .pdf is created and looks great. It's not that large a file - 8 kb, and prints to about 12 pages - but it does have 61 scores (so far). No one score seems to be the culprit. If I comment out score 24-61, it works. 24-60 commented out does not work. 22-60 commented out works. 22-59 commented out does not work. 1-19 + 31-61 commented out works. I appreciate your time and help, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Montague City, MA USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: finale-lilypond?
2009/9/27 Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org Hi, A friend of mine is used to Finale. I try to convert him to lilypond. What is the best way to convert a score from Finale to Lilypond? Regards, Export the Finale score to musicXML, then run musicxml2ly on it. This script is included with the Lilypond distribution. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: finale-lilypond?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Laura Conrad lcon...@laymusic.org wrote: Frédéric == Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org writes: Frédéric A friend of mine is used to Finale. I try to convert him Frédéric to lilypond. What is the best way to convert a score Frédéric from Finale to Lilypond? Regards, What *ought* to be the best way is to have Finale save the file as a MusicXML file, and then use musicxml2ly to convert it. I don't have any experience with doing this -- the Finale users I know refuse to find options in the Finale menus. If you want to try it out, there do seem to be some MusicXML files on the Werner Icking I've done this probably a dozen times (exporting from Finale and converting to .ly) and it works pretty well. There are some things to clean up (duplicated dynamic markings, for example) but overall it works a lot better than one might expect. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: command-line usage - bus error (was: Re: lily2image)
pngtopnm tie.png tie.pnm pnmcrop -white tie.pnm tie-cropped.pnm ppmtopng tie-cropped.pnm /Users/PLS/bin/lily2image: line 626: ppmtopng: command not found ppmtopng failed converting to final output - lily2image aborting. Isn't ppmtopng part of netpbm (I have netpbm version 10.26.61)? I didn't find ppmtopng on my machine. What do I have to do about the warning? (I can run lily2image with -f=jpeg) At this point it should try to call pnmtopng, not ppmtopng. The script checks to see which outformat command to use based on the return status of which ppmto$outformat. If it returns 1 (which it should in this case), it runs instead pnmto$outformat. (in this case pnmtopng). I'm not sure why that part of the script isn't working on your machine. Jon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lily2image
Hi Patrick, It looks like you don't have your machine set up for command-line usage on Mac (there's a page in Application Usage about this: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Setup-for-MacOS-X#Setup-for-MacOS-X If you've already done this then I'm not sure what the problem is. Do you normally run LP from the command line on Mac? Jon On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.dewrote: Hi Jon and Patrick, I found your script lily2image in the archives ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/41125) and tried it out. Unfortunately I got a bus error: patrick-schmidts-computer:~ PLS$ lily2image -r=72 -f=png /Users/PLS/Music/LilyPond/Test/Minimalbeispiele/tie.ly Output format is png... Resolution set to 72 DPI... lilypond --format=png -dresolution=72 tie.ly GNU LilyPond 2.13.3 /Users/PLS/bin/lily2image: line 559: 7239 Bus error lilypond --include=$HOME --format=png -dresolution=$resolution $srcfile lilypond failed - lily2image aborting netpbm is installed. I installed it via sudo port install netpbm so I should have netpbm version 10.26.61. (Mac OS X 10.4.11) Maybe you have an idea of what could have gone wrong. (I also tried it with LilyPond 2.13.4. Same result.) Thanks for any hint. patrick -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Permission denied due to MIDI with percussion
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:33 PM, dflo404 dflo...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow I feel dumb. I just realized it was doing that because the MIDI file was still open. I closed it out and it worked fine. Glad you figured it out, Dan. Your code ran just fine for me, too. :) Still though, after looking at my code could you guys lend any advice? I don't really understand the whole Score part, I just have that all there after looking at other examples. Your \score block looks o.k., although the indentation looks funny in my email reader. It's probably fine in your editor. I'd recommend using barchecks after each bar, too. (put a | at the end of a bar) These can be very helpful in tracking down errors in rhythms. Otherwise things look pretty good to me. BTW, your name looks awfully familiar. I seem to recall someone named Dan Florio in Fairborn, Ohio when I was growing up in the mid-70s to early 80s. He may have been in my brother's grade, though. Did you know a guy named Rick Kulp back then? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fingering orientation problem
For fingering orientation to take effect, you have to put the note inside a chord construct . I thought we had added a warning about this. Here's what it should look like: \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) sib-34 Ok I've just added this warning about the chord construct requirement to the snippet in question in LSR. Jon On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM, michel.villene...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why the fingering indications are up and not down because I specified it by : \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) Sorry if it's a stupid question but I can't see where is my mistake. NB : \version 2.12.0 on Debian. -- Michel Villeneuve 43, faubourg Jean Jaurès 07700 Bourg St-Andéol tel : (+33)(0)961468658 / (+33)(0)601981018 GnuPG Key ID 0019690E ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fingering orientation problem
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote: At 18:50 on 12 Aug 2009, michel.villene...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why the fingering indications are up and not down because I specified it by : \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) Sorry if it's a stupid question but I can't see where is my mistake. \set fingeringOrientations is only for chords, just use _ and ^ to position single note fingerings, or use - to let LP decide. Is the use of _ and ^ with fingerings documented anywhere? I don't remember seeing this. It's certainly easier than using the chord angle brackets. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fingering orientation problem
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote: At 18:50 on 12 Aug 2009, michel.villene...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why the fingering indications are up and not down because I specified it by : \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) Sorry if it's a stupid question but I can't see where is my mistake. \set fingeringOrientations is only for chords, just use _ and ^ to position single note fingerings, or use - to let LP decide. Is the use of _ and ^ with fingerings documented anywhere? I don't remember seeing this. It's certainly easier than using the chord angle brackets. Am I correct in thinking that you'll still have to use if you want the fingerings to go left or right of the note? In that case, \set fingeringOrientations is still necessary for single notes sometimes. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website, draft 7
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:18:16PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 1. On the examples page, under the Jesu, Meine Freude, it says (click for longer excerpt) when it should say (click to enlarge). Thanks, fixed. 2. On the examples page, under Modern Music, one of the f's is shifted down for some reason in the score for by Trevor Baca (bottom staff). It's a spacing issue; a bug. Jonathan: investigate, tweak the input, use a different version of lilypond, whatever. I've fixed it and pushed. Trevor uses special macros for those dynamic markings, and for whatever reason one of them got dropped below all the others. I replaced it with a standard \f dynamic and that seems to have done it. I also had to modify the makefile in the examples dir--explanation in the commit message. Jon p.s. I've been quiet lately mostly b/c I'm trying to recover from tendonitis. Trying to keep typing to a minimum. :( -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website, draft 7
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:26:37PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I've fixed it and pushed. Thanks! I also had to modify the makefile in the examples dir--explanation in the commit message. Ah, I see. I set it up so that I could run make generate-examples from the main dir. It doesn't matter, though -- John doesn't like that setup, so it's only a temporary thing for web-gop anyway. When I looked at my commit in gitk I didn't see the whole commit message. Did you see it? I did that one-line message, then went down a couple of lines and used # comment lines to further explain the Makefile change. Can you see those? What's the command to read a whole commit message from the command line instead of using gitk? Anyway all I said was that $(DEST) didn't appear to be defined, but I guess it's defined further up the tree. I didn't realize there was a new generate-examples target. Sorry if I caused troubles. :( p.s. I've been quiet lately mostly b/c I'm trying to recover from tendonitis. Trying to keep typing to a minimum. :( Yikes! Ok, I'll reduce the amount that I pester you. Get better soon. :( Thanks man. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website, draft 7
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:41:06PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: When I looked at my commit in gitk I didn't see the whole commit message. Did you see it? I did that one-line message, then went down a couple of lines and used # comment lines to further explain the Makefile change. *head smack* Haha! Jonathan, didn't you notice the: # (Comment lines starting with '#' will not be included) line that's included every time you type git commit ? Yeah, but I guess I didn't understand it properly. I thought there was the top line that was the succinct commit message, then lines below that where you could elaborate. I guess you have to elaborate without #comment characters? Geez. Somehow I had it in my head that you needed to comment the explanatory comments. ;) Sigh. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: staff lines blurred on my website
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Gerard McConnell gerry...@indigo.iewrote: Hello, I've been using Lilypond to draw examples for my counterpoint tutorial website at: http://homepage.eircom.net/~gerfmcc/fugue.htmlhttp://homepage.eircom.net/%7Egerfmcc/fugue.html The staff lines are somewhat blurred. What is the likely reason for this? (I'm converting the output to .png with {lilypond --png file.ly} ) (As I state on the site that I'm using Lilypond I'd like to show the best possible output.) Thanks, Gerard Hi Gerard, I see the problem and can report that the same thing happens for me when viewing these things on a screen. Check our own new website, for example (still in development): http://lilypond.org/~graham/Examples.html#Examples Some of the staff lines are blurred on our examples as well. Just now I tried running a file at a much higher resolution and the problem is still there. I don't think this has anything to do with Lilypond, but rather with images being rendered on a screen. When I look at a lilypond pdf file in either Evince or Acroread, some of the lines are blurred there as well, but the printed output always looks excellent. Incidentally, I just went to my iMac and looked at a bunch of .tif files generated by Finale at something like 1200 dpi, and they also have some blurry staff lines. I don't think it's specific to Lilypond. These Finale images were made for an article I published a few years ago and they looked perfect in the printed copy. Best, Jon p.s. it's funny that you should write to the list now, since just a few days ago one of my faculty colleagues forwarded an email to me about your counterpoint website. I also have a counterpoint project going, info here in you're interested: http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/ -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: staff lines blurred on my website
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Jonathan, I also have a counterpoint project going, info here in you're interested: http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/ Nice job on the title — the pun is amazing! =) Kieren. Thanks, Kieren. It was a moment of nerdy inspiration. ;) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hiding the tempo
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: Hi, I would like to set the tempo for the MIDI file, but not display the tempo information at the beginning of the score. Is this possible? Thanks, Denis Yes, you can set it in the \midi block, although the format is a bit more convoluted. Here's an example where the quarter is set to 160 beats per minute: \midi { \context { \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 160 4) } } HTH, Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hiding the tempo
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: Hi, I would like to set the tempo for the MIDI file, but not display the tempo information at the beginning of the score. Is this possible? Thanks, Denis Yes, you can set it in the \midi block, although the format is a bit more convoluted. Here's an example where the quarter is set to 160 beats per minute: \midi { \context { \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 160 4) } } HTH, Jon BTW I should have pointed you to the right spot in Notation Reference as well: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#MIDI-block -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: setting notes alone
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:18 AM, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: Hi, sometimes I want to discuss some details of a score, and I want to use the note symbols alone, without any staff. For instance, I may want to say that a breve is equal to two semibreves, and have the right symbols, and no staff. How can I achieve this? Thanks, Denis This snippet should help you out: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=167 Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cannot end slur
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I'm having trouble entering the following fragment of music: \version 2.12.2 \relative c'' { \time 3/4 \partial 32 cis32~( | cis4~ cis8~ \acciaccatura e' f~ f4 | f16 e \times 2/3 { f des a } \times 2/3 { e d c } aes32 g'16.) ees32 b g d e gis c e | } The slur goes to the first high f, then stops, and I get a warning: cannot end slur. I've tried overriding various Slur properties, but nothing seems to get the slur to extend all the way to the g. If anyone has any advice or reference links, it would be greatly appreciated! Hi Jonathan, It works if you use a phrasing slur instead: \version 2.12.2 \relative c'' { \time 3/4 \partial 32 cis32\( ~ | cis4~ cis8~ \acciaccatura e' f~ f4 | f16 e \times 2/3 { f des a } \times 2/3 { e d c } aes32 g'16.\) ees32 b g d e gis c e | } Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: First Lilypond Score
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:16:09PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: This seems to be a sufficiently common misunderstanding. Jonathan: please add a @warning at the top of NR 1.3.2 Slurs. Patch attached. I hope I put it in the right spot. Well, it's not at the top, but that's fine. The sentence missing something, though. Once you've fixed it, go ahead and push Ok I added a period (is that what you meant was missing?) and moved up a bit. Not to the very top of the whole thing, but right after the first instruction on how to enter a slur. I can't push b/c I don't have push access to this repo. (at least I don't think I do) Patch attached. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com From ee6be77ab7e116efaf3f62d8d2c101b3d9dae3d3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: jonkulp jonlancek...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:50:16 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] DOCS: add warning about slur termination in same voice \ --- Documentation/notation/expressive.itely |3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely b/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely index 06b5143..696816c 100644 --- a/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely +++ b/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely @@ -508,6 +508,9 @@ doits. @notation{Slurs} are entered using parentheses: +...@warning{in polyphonic music, a slur must be terminated +in the same voice it began.} + @lilypond[verbatim,quote,relative=2] f4( g a) a8 b( a4 g2 f4) -- 1.6.2.5 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: First Lilypond Score
Ok Trevor, thanks. Graham informed me that I have push access so next time I'll just push it myself. Best, Jon On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.ukwrote: Thanks Jonathan - pushed to remote/origin. Trevor - Original Message - From: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: First Lilypond Score -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: website: why do you use lilypond?
BTW, have you (Lilypond community) ever thought about recording some *screencasts*? This is the way how many people learn using a program and, even though you might think this could work just with graphics or video software, I guess it may work for lilypond as well.. (at least for new users) I like this idea. I've thought about doing a podcast about Lilypond, but then ran into the problem that it would really need to be a screencast for it to do any good, and I don't have time to learn how to do screencasts. Also, can you improve any examples? I mean, the Goyescas / Granados example and Cary / Baca examples look *wicked awesome*. In contrast, the tablature example bores me to tears, the vocal music example is probably missing a / accent in trou-ve, etc. I'd be really glad to help with the tablature example. I think a modern piece would be better in this case, as tablature are used by modern guitarists. What about a Scott Joplin ragtime arranged for guitar? (it is in the public domain) I guess a good example should show the best features of tablature support in Lilypond.. There are any other requirements? That'd be great, Federico. I think there's still a big ugly blinking help! thing by the tablature example, so I'd be glad to have a different example. BTW the vocal example is a motet that I transcribed from a medieval manuscript facsimile, and I'll be happy to check if there's a missing accent, but I'm pretty sure it's correct (according to Medieval French anyway). I'll check when I get back home, though. Right now I'm in NY on vacation. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: First Lilypond Score
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:21:49PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: slurs - I had a lot of cannot end slur problems early on, evidently because I was trying to end a slur in a different voice (which isn't a problem in Finale). This seems to be a sufficiently common misunderstanding. Jonathan: please add a @warning at the top of NR 1.3.2 Slurs. Patch attached. I hope I put it in the right spot. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com From e688cf2dd4e9f8851d902feddb2a5b5ae807c1c7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: jonkulp jonlancek...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:12:42 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] DOCS: add @warning about slur termination in polypony --- Documentation/notation/expressive.itely |3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely b/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely index 06b5143..73055a2 100644 --- a/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely +++ b/Documentation/notation/expressive.itely @@ -514,6 +514,9 @@ a4 g2 f4) c e2( b d2) @end lilypond +...@warning{in polyphonic music, a slur must be terminated in +the same voice it began} + @cindex slurs, manual placement @cindex slurs, below notes @cindex slurs, above notes -- 1.6.2.5 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Speed-up compiling
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Michael Käppler xmichae...@web.de wrote: Hi Mark, Maybe try using \pointAndClickOff ? I don't know if point-and-click slows things down, but it certainly increases filesize. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Point-and-click I've tested this, rendering only the last 100 measures: When I ran Lily the first time on that file, it needed 171 s with Point-And-Click turned on. Afterwards I turned Point-And-Click off, where it finished after 88s. After that I did a second run with Point-And-Click turned on - now it finished after just 93s. I don't think there are significant differences concerning Point-And-Click. But obviously every first run that Lily does on a file, lasts longer. I don't know what's the reason for it. A further observation I made (which I posted some time ago on -devel) was that when running LilyPond with many files (lilypond foo1.ly foo2.ly foo3.ly foo4.ly) it needs much(!) more time than running it that way: lilypond foo1.ly lilypond foo2.ly lilypond foo3.ly lilypond foo4.ly. Also, you can temporarily comment out any instances of keep-inside-line since it's a known time-hog. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Avoiding-tweaks-with-slower-processing I don't use any of this extra-checks in my score. Regards, Michael Hi Michael, Given the specs of your machine, I think the compile time is probably about what you can expect for such a large score. I have an orchestral score with 181 bars and 18-20 staves per system, and it compiles in about 7-8 minutes on my laptop (about a year old with 3 GB RAM, dual-core processors, etc) but takes more than an hour on my old eMac (5 years old, 1 GB ram, 1.25Ghz G4 processor). The processing has always been slower on macs, in my observations. Even on my nice Intel iMac at work, which has pretty good specs, it always takes considerably longer than on my Linux laptop. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: generating graphic examples
Josh, If these other methods don't work for you, and if you're running Linux or Mac OSX, then I have a bash script that does exactly what you want. See this thread for more info: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/41125 Jon On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Josh Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.comwrote: I want to be able to generate graphic musical examples without getting it formatted on a giant paper-formatted .pdf or .png. How do I accomplish this? I cannot find anything in the manual which allows this. - Josh Nichols SDG ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Federico Bruni wrote: from my privileged position of newbie ;-) I have a suggestion for a very tiny edit in the Notation Reference which might ease the understanding for new users. This is the page (section Selected Snippets): http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions What is missing there, IMHO, is a clear statement like left-hand fingerings must be entered within a chord construct (i.e.: even single notes must be enclosed by ). There is a similar sentence in the right-hand fingering chapter: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Common-notation-for-fretted-strings#Right_002dhand-fingerings So why don't you add in the left-hand as well? I've lost hours trying to figure out why left orientation worked just for chords and not for single notes. That sentence would have saved me a lot of time and frustration. Sorry to hear about your frustrations -- I totally understand! And thanks (very much) for alerting us to a potential source of confusion. Remember that LilyPond is still a work-in-progress, and everyone can help! We usually try to clarify sources of confusion pretty quickly, so these reports are useful. However, it's better to offer suggestions like this to the developers' mailing list at lilypond-de...@gnu.org. archive - http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/ subscribe - http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel I guess the best place to add this would be in the snippet called Controlling the placement of chord fingerings in the Fingering instructions section. Probably the title should be changed to Controlling the placement of fingerings, because apparently the placement of single-note fingerings is also dependent on the ... construct. The snippet *does* provide examples of single notes enclosed in ..., but I admit it would be easy for a novice to overlook the significance of this. Ok I've updated two of those snippets in LSR to give this explicit warning, something that gave me fits when I was working on the fretted strings section last year, too. We added the example with the single notes in chords at some point but a warning is appropriate here. The changes should make it into the development docs in the next couple of days, if I understand the way this works. Best, Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: suggestion for emproving NR: fingering istructions
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/28 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: The changes should make it into the development docs in the next couple of days, if I understand the way this works. If only it were that simple. :) The LSR changes won't make their way into the docs until I run makelsr.py on the nightly docs tarball. There's a complication if you want to change the snippet's title, since there are links to the snippet in the docs: this means having to amend the @lilypondfile[] entries and rename the texidoc (which contains the translations). Regards, Neil I didn't change the titles at all, just the descriptions and one bit the code. Hopefully it won't cause any problems. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can't Uinstall Lilypond 2.13.0 to Install 2.13.3
Are you using sudo before the uninstall command? Jon On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, craigbakalian craigbakal...@verizon.netwrote: Hi, I am getting a multitude of permission denied messages on Ubuntu's terminal when I run the /usr/local/bin/uninstall-lilypond. What is up with this. I have been installing and reinstalling for quite some time with no problems. Why can't I uninstall? Craig Bakalian 560 Keswick Drive Yardley, PA 19067 215-428-0856 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.13.3 docs emacs mode documentation AU 2.2.1 out of date?
Tim McNamara wrote: On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Paul Scott wrote: I am still concerned why AU 2.2.1 doesn't seem to make sense. Sorry to be pig-ignorant here, but what the frak is AU 2.2.1? Obviously it's some kind of abbreviation for documentation, but unfortunately I've not seen the whole name spelled out and it doesn't match any documentation I have from my LilyPond install. In this community we have an unfortunate tendency to shorthand things, forgetting that some readers won't be able to figure out what we're talking about. Indeed, this one doesn't match. It's Application Usage, which in a fresh build is named lilypond-program.pdf. Sorry for the confusion. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com Having been erased, The document you're seeking Must now be retyped. --a Haiku error message from GNU ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Line-width in Lilypond-book
To handle this problem on my own files, I make sure to use false ragged-right setting inside the included lilypond file. Jon On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Hugo Leonardo Ribeiro hugole...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, I am trying to adjust the line width in a lilypond-book example, but whatever I try, it always look like a ragged right style. What I want is to stretch the line, in order to the chords places more distant one from each other. I searched in earlier messages and someone named Morton had the same problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg28520.html Graham said that this bug was fixed in 2.10.6. I am using 2.12.1 and have this problem. -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score staff order
So did you find the problem? Just curious. :) Jon On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Kalen Mercer merce...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, okay, I think I was staring too intently at my PianoStaff and wind instruments I didn't bother to look at the strings. I shall resume typesetting! Kalen -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Score staff order
When this error appears it's normally something like a missing curly brace. I can't try to compile your example b/c I don't have all of the source, but it looks like there might be un-terminated grandstaves near the bottom--see where I put comments below... Jon On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Kalen Mercer merce...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on typesetting Pavane pour une infante Defunte by Ravel but am having trouble with the score layout. It is as follows: \score { \new StaffGroup \new Staff { \global \flutes } \new Staff { \global \hautbois } \new Staff { \global \clarinettes } \new Staff { \global \cors } \new PianoStaff \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = #1 Harpe \new Staff = harpeone \harpeone \new Staff = harpetwo \harpetwo Here you start a new staffgroup and I don't see the closing \new StaffGroup \new GrandStaff \new Staff { \global \violonsone } \new Staff { \global \violonstwo } \new Staff { \altos } \new GrandStaff \new Staff { \global \violoncelles } \new Staff { \global \contrebasses } Here add and see if that fixes your problem. I get this error when compiling: # -*-compilation-*- Processing `C:/Documents and Settings/Kalen/Desktop/score.ly' Parsing... C:/Documents and Settings/Kalen/Desktop/score.ly:159:0: error: syntax error, unexpected \new \new PianoStaff C:/Documents and Settings/Kalen/Desktop/score.ly:168:0: error: syntax error, unexpected C:/Documents and Settings/Kalen/Desktop/score.ly:174:0: error: syntax error, unexpected error: failed files: C:\\Documents and Settings\\Kalen\\Desktop\\score.ly Anyone know what my error is? I have checked the syntax many times and have tried adjusting the pianostaff's contents but nothing has worked out for my benefit. Kalen ( Windows XP Office Service Pack 3 ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: guitar guide-mark
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Peter Buhr pab...@sympatico.ca wrote: When writing the fingering for guitar, there is a notation used to indicate a guide finger in left-hand shifting. The fingering mark looks like -3, but the - is rotated up about 30 degrees, which means to silently slide the 3rd finger from its previous position to this marked note on the same string. (Just in case someone doesn't know. ;-) So I want to write something like: c-{-3} or c--3 The first doesn't work and the latter puts the -3 below the note. Is there a mechanism to accomplish this? Again, I have scanned all the documentation and not found an example, but I could have missed it. You can rotate objects and markups. I've done a little experiment here that doesn't look very good yet but may put you on the right track. Search the Notation Reference manual for rotation, formatting text, positioning objects, and the like. \version 2.13.4 \relative c'' { c-1 d^\markup { \center-align { \rotate #30 - \finger 1 }} } HTH, Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: guitar guide-mark
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Peter Buhr wrote: When writing the fingering for guitar, there is a notation used to indicate a guide finger in left-hand shifting. The fingering mark looks like -3, but the - is rotated up about 30 degrees, which means to silently slide the 3rd finger from its previous position to this marked note on the same string. (Just in case someone doesn't know. ;-) So I want to write something like: c-{-3} or c--3 The first doesn't work and the latter puts the -3 below the note. Is there a mechanism to accomplish this? Again, I have scanned all the documentation and not found an example, but I could have missed it. In 30 years of playing guitar (jazz and rock), I have never seen this notation. Is there an example on the Web you can point to? I'd be interested in seeing how it's used. This fingering indication is very common in classical guitar music. I see it all the time but haven't tried to do it in Lilypond before tonight. Peter, your objections to my initial approach make perfect sense, I just don't know how to work around them. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: positioning markup above a trill
Richard Wattenbarger wrote: I'm having trouble positioning some markup above a trill. The passage in question is below: \relative c'' { \time 3/4 b4 ^\markup {gestopft} \trill \p (a8) r a r } I've tried all sorts of things ... to no avail. Suggestions? RW This is controlled by script priority: \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100 See the snippets in Notation Reference here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Attached-to-notes#Articulations-and-ornamentations Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Insert line breaks in headers
Something like this should work: title = \markup { \center-column { First Title \line { Second Title } } } http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Formatting-text#Text-alignment Jon 2009/7/12 Jesús Guillermo Andrade gandr...@usermail.com Hello. I'd like to enter a composer's name into the header of a piece. The name is spelled both in english and japanese and since both are large I need to insert a line brake so one name stands just above the other in the usual place in the page. Can you advise me on how to do this? Thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website draft 5: help wanted, I mean it
Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:37:15AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/7/10 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: There's now an Examples section, thanks to Jonathan Kulp. - currently, most examples have a click-to-expand thing. Some of them don't work expanded, others don't work non-expanded. But there's enough working stuff for you to get the idea. Although I'm not fond of JavaScript, I think the solution here is called thickbox: http://jquery.com/demo/thickbox/ No javascript. Besides, the display isn't the issue; what's at issue is generating the images in an automatic, system-independent way. (as in not what's in the current makefile and examples/ dir) More importantly, we need help. I recently re-iterated my claim that the lilypond community should have the program/bugs/documentation/website they deserve, but currently this isn't happening -- Patrick and I have spent a ton of time and effort on this website. I am probably familiar enough with the texinfo and CSS syntax to give you guys a hand. For instance, I should be able to handle the blinking Help wanted boxes (this looks sooo 1996 btw). That's deliberate. We had to specially look up how to make it blink. My specific instructions were make it as ugly as possible. We want to handle the help wanted stuff by doing the required work. Right! We don't need nicer-looking help boxes, we need to get rid of them! Folks, please, send something to me if you have nice-looking examples with some wow to them in any of these categories: 1. tablature 2. orchestra/opera/wind ensemble--something really big (surely someone has something better than my piece!) 3. pop music (something with a free enough license that we can use it) 4. some kind of world music 5. Something for use in music theory classes or other educational purposes that looks better than my counterpoint example--something with text balloons, colored noteheads, or whatever might be used in teaching music. Thanks! Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website draft 5: help wanted, I mean it
Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:21:17PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Although I'm not fond of JavaScript, I think the solution here is called thickbox: http://jquery.com/demo/thickbox/ No javascript. Besides, the display isn't the issue; what's at issue is generating the images in an automatic, system-independent way. (as in not what's in the current makefile and examples/ dir) Valentin, I've never used jquery before, but if you can implement this, and the site is still functional with scripting *disabled*, then I think we should definitely use it. Ok, but the important questions still remain: 1. Do we want to display *different* images after a click, or just *expanded* images? I vote for expanded images, not different ones, just so people can see them at a higher resolution and see how nice they look. 2. Is this an important feature? (if so, we can't use javascript) 3. Who's going to create the .ly files, write the makefile, etc? If the first two answers are no, no, then I'll do the third. Cheers, - Graham -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website draft 5: help wanted, I mean it
Tim McNamara wrote: Criminy on a crutch, wow. I'm sorry to say it but there are an awful lot of hurdles to get over in learning to use LilyPond and then even more in trying to contribute to it. I think I see why there are fewer contributor than Graham and Patrick etc. would like: being a contributor comes with a learning curve that many of us just do not have time to master. I think there'd be more contributors if contributing was a simple process (and not so Linux-centric): installing git and all its myriad dependencies, learning texinfo, etc. I simply don't have time for all that. I'm happy to write text, revise text, proof-read etc. for the Web site and the docs, but I'd submit anything in text or HTML. I'm happy to format stuff as texinfo for you if you want to write text for the website, for example the inspirational essay why to use Lilypond that (I think) we're still looking for, or if you want to revise text in the docs, call our attention to typos and so forth. If someone comes along as says exactly where there's a problem in the docs and provides (even in an email) an exact line with which to replace it, then to me that's a significant contribution and I'm happy to integrate it to the docs. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user