Re: Knoppix
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Monday 27 March 2006 17:55, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote: 5.0 (english) DVD is being downloaded via bittorrent as we speak. Should be available for anyone wanting a copy tomorrow. Let me know if you want one, and I'll swap for a blank. Where can one download it? I cannot find it on knoppix.net or google. http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=1645&name=KNOPPIX_V5.0DVD-2006-02-25-EN.iso.torrent Surprisingly, I could not find a German language version torrent. So sorry. Thanks, I prefer English anyway. The only thing one only has in German is the ability to express oneself with endless sentences and confuse people by putting the verbs at the end of those senteces. ;) Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Knoppix
Steve Holdoway wrote: 5.0 (english) DVD is being downloaded via bittorrent as we speak. Should be available for anyone wanting a copy tomorrow. Let me know if you want one, and I'll swap for a blank. Where can one download it? I cannot find it on knoppix.net or google. Cheers, Steve Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: >>> CLUG Meeting This Evening - Tuesday, 14th March 2006 <<
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tuesday 14 March 2006 00:33, Robert Himmelmann wrote: We will try to make audio recordings of the talks in the future, but it's probably not possible for today's talk. That would be great. The GPL-v3 video is at:- http://gplv3.fsf.org/av/gplv3-draft1-release.ogg.torrent The slides are not readable in the video, so you will need:- http://gplv3.fsf.org/static/moglen-gplv3-launch-slides/toc.html as well. Thanks, I am already watching it. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: >>> CLUG Meeting This Evening - Tuesday, 14th March 2006 <<
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Greetings to the CLUG listers, [...] I also have a file in Theora Ogg format of the TV recording of the launching of the GPLv3 by Eban Moglan and Richard Stallman. It's playable by either Real Player or mplayer provided you have the ogg & theora plugins available. The TV presentation is professionally done, and if you are interested in the new GPL you will find the content pretty interesting. It is available either as a standalone 210 megs file or together with the books in a 220megs .iso file. I would be interested in a copy of that video. I would like to come but obviously it is a bit too far away. (I am living in Germany) Could you point me to a site were I can download it? [] Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Can someone please fix the mailing list archives
Nick Rout wrote: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 I know that many have to use that other OS from time to time, but its really no excuse for using OE, and even less excuse for not properly quoting. Of course you are allowed to use wine(tools) to run Outlook under GNU/Linux. I occasionally do the same with IE 6 as Flash 8 only works under Win[e/(dows)]. I would have written this mail with outlook but it crashed ;) Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 9:30 am, Robert Himmelmann wrote: rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.0/ /etc/make.profile emerge -uDN world should do the job. Unfortunatly the site is Spanish (I think). I did not know that one can understand Spanish knowing Latin and a bit of Italian. Well I tried it and my system still seems to work fine. Ok, I did so too. Now even wine-0.9.8-r1 compiles which it did not do before. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Robert Himmelmann wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/ Interesting to note that it's not gone for gcc 4 yet. Must look into that one. Steve How would I upgrade to the new version? Is the following enough? rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.0/ /etc/make.profile emerge -uDav world On http://www.espaciolinux.com/foros-tema-t16678.html they say that rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.0/ /etc/make.profile emerge -uDN world should do the job. Unfortunatly the site is Spanish (I think). I did not know that one can understand Spanish knowing Latin and a bit of Italian. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:39:24 +0100 Robert Himmelmann wrote: Robert Fisher wrote: But what exactly is that difference? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml does not cover 2006.0 yet. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann try diffing the profiles and see what it shows! Unfortunatly they are directories not files. There are some differences in the files but I have not idea what for example nptl in USE="nptl -nptlonly" stands for. Has anyone tried the new profile yet? Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 5:22 am, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Then what does ls -l /etc/make.profile say on your system? Well granted that was in need of updating - not that it makes much difference though. But what exactly is that difference? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml does not cover 2006.0 yet. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 8:59 am, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Thanks, but I was more worring about the profile. It seems as if that part does not get updated automatically. The only thing I update when a new version comes out is my Grub file when the splash themes are updated. Then what does ls -l /etc/make.profile say on your system? * media-gfx/splash-themes-livecd Latest version available: 2005.1 Latest version installed: 2005.1 Size of downloaded files: 12,695 kB Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: Gentoo theme for gensplash consoles License: GPL-2 Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Thanks, but I was more worring about the profile. It seems as if that part does not get updated automatically. Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 2:22 am, Robert Himmelmann wrote: How would I upgrade to the new version? Is the following enough? rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.0/ /etc/make.profile emerge -uDav world emerge -uDv world keeps you up to date. But if you want to be sure try... The following will keep a system up to date:- emerge --sync && emerge -uDpv world Optional: emerge -uDvf world && emerge -uDv world emerge -uDv world emerge -pv depclean emerge -v depclean I rather do that manually as there are some issues with the kde*-meta packages on my system. I usally only want one or two packages from those meta-ones. revdep-rebuild -pv revdep-rebuild -v dispatch-conf I use etc-update for that step That basically updates the portage tree, tells me what's involved in updating everything, updates everything, tells me what packages are no longer necessary, removes them, tells me what packages have been broken by an upgrade or removal, and recompiles them. Then dispatch-conf updates my config files for me with minimal intervention. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Steve Holdoway wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/ Interesting to note that it's not gone for gcc 4 yet. Must look into that one. Steve How would I upgrade to the new version? Is the following enough? rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.0/ /etc/make.profile emerge -uDav world Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo 2006.0 released at last (:
Steve Holdoway wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/ Interesting to note that it's not gone for gcc 4 yet. Must look into that one. Steve How would I upgrade to the new version? Is the following enough? rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.0/ /etc/make.profile emerge -uDav world Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: update on dying disk
Steve Holdoway wrote: Fabulous product, that MailWasher (: Steve I have no idea how people manage to get that much spam that they need anti-spam software. ;) With my 6 addresses I get about one message per day. And yes I do use most of those addresses. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: ctrlaltdel problem
Barry wrote: (after a lot of reading...) There are a lot of security matters being checked (cron hourly) but the man pages do not refer to inittab or this particular alt as far as I can see.. I have fixed my problem successfully by altering the offending line in libmsec.py, but what are peoples' thoughts on a script which writes to a file with permissions set to read only? Barry The owner and root can still write to a "read-only" file. You will get "permission denied" in some but not all cases. I.e. :w or ZZ in vim do not work but :w! does work. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: ctrlaltdel problem
Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:47:17 +1300 (NZDT) Steve Holdoway wrote: Is it beer o'clock yet??? Steve It must be somewhere in the world! Probably over here in Germany: 10 Feb 2006 02:02:11 - Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: X server
HappyEvilSlosh wrote: When starting xserver-xorg to run a thin client in debian all I have to do is run the command /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg start On most distros including Ubuntu you either use /etc/init.d/[x/g]dm. Depending on your display manager. xdm usually starts KDM and gdm as one might guess GDM. On Fedora this is a bit more complicated. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: ubuntu hoary to breezy - HOW?
Jim Cheetham wrote: On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 06:27:46AM +0100, Robert Himmelmann wrote: If you want bleeding edge you can go for Ubuntu 6.04. For that use dapper instead of hoary. As far as I can see, only upgrades of one version at a time are supported - so direct from hoary to dapper would not be guaranteed. Of course, it would probably work :-) but that's not the point - ubuntu is about stability, not hacking. I also have a stable version of Ubuntu on my box. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: vmware server now zero dollars
I put ie6setup.exe on my webserver and downloaded it with ie2. I won't use Opera, Firefox or Apache on that VM. When I do use MS then all of MS. ;) Jim Cheetham wrote: Hah :-) last time I installed NT4, you couldn't even access the Microsoft website with IE2 - got stuck in an infinite redirection loop saying you were an unsupported browser ;-) So I downloaded Opera, and used that to get an updated IE (Opera being pretty much the smallest download to get a decent browser) -jim Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: vmware server now zero dollars
For me it worked very well. I already downloaded a Ubuntu image from their site and installed Windows NT Server 4.0 on another image. Then I had to face the problem of downloading service pack 6a with IE 2.0. Well now it works. Roger Searle wrote: vmware have responded to the potential market for virtualisation environments and the competition from virtual pc by lowering the price of vmware server to zero! (Note - currently beta). Available for windows (140MB) and linux (101MB) [1] This is incredibly cool, for me this significantly reduces barriers to running $FAVEDISTRO at work - often there are packages I need to use regularly that are windows only. For others, it may make the idea of playing around with $DISTRO for the first time more appealing, while continuing to run windows. Perhaps this will be a good alternative to qemu? (run faster? easier?) My downloads will begin when I go home for the day and I'll play when I can . . . My new computer I'm about to build for work will get an extra gig of RAM now I think! [1] http://www.vmware.com/programs/ProgramCustomerProfile.do cheers, Roger Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: ubuntu hoary to breezy - HOW?
vim/kwrite/nano /etc/apt/sources.list ((Replace all occurences of warty by hoary and comment out the entry for the CD)) apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade If you want bleeding edge you can go for Ubuntu 6.04. For that use dapper instead of hoary. Nick Rout wrote: I have ubuntu on my work as a dual boot alternative to winders. I rarely use it, but today i am. I click the little update icon at the top right and it tells me that there is a new release called breezy and that the upgrade instructions are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. Well they probably are, but finding them is not easy. Can anyone point me to the official guide, or something that will do the trick. Searching via google or the ubuntu search engine takes me down too may side roads. Surely if they are going to give me such a prominent message, they should link to the instructions off the page they refer me to. And the release notes are no good. (on this point anyway). Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo sound card problems - solved
Ross Drummond wrote: Recompiled the kernel with sound drivers as modules, ran alsaconf and it now just works. Cimpiling everything in should work as well. Just to make sure: Did you remember to reboot after recompiling the kernel with the driver build in? Thanks all for your help. Cheers Ross Drummond On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:05, you wrote: I am experimenting with a Gentoo install. It is all going fine except for the sound card. I can not get it to work. Can you help? Details below; Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: bash script query - echo date
Steve Holdoway wrote: [...]or set a workable $PATH up for the duration of the script. Steve It might be enough to source /etc/profile: . /etc/profile Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: CD to MP3 ripper for Linux/KDE - recommendations
Don Gould wrote: I'm after a gui to run under kde for ripping cd's to MP3 to download to my MP3 player, recommendations? Cheers Don grip does it's job quite well and has support for most command-line rippers and encoders. It is only a gui for those programs just as k3b is a gui for cdrecord, mkisofs &c. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: bash script query - echo date
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: bash names are case-sensitive. Volker That script should work though. Maybe it is a good idea to try the full path i.e.: echo "Daily Backup Successful: $(/usr/bin/date)" >> /home/dave/.daves_backup.log Otherwise I see no reason why it does not run. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: E-Mail headers (WAS: Re: change of email addess)
Col wrote: As a matter of interest: How would you do that inside firefox. Till now I have used less to view the mbox files. Sorry, I meant thunderbird. Select the message and then hit CTRL U Thanks, that was what I was after. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
E-Mail headers (WAS: Re: change of email addess)
Carl Cerecke wrote: Use thunderbird, your mail client, to view the headers in a list email. As a matter of interest: How would you do that inside firefox. Till now I have used less to view the mbox files. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: qemu or similar on existing filesystem
Nick Rout wrote: qemu --hda /mnt/gentoo Whatever you do - do not mount the partition and run qemu on it. That will break the filesystem and you will have to run reiserfsck --rebuilt-tree. Once I got a file (/etc/profile I belive) on my Debian-installation which was corrupted so badly that the kernel crashed when I tried to access it. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Qemu - warning to Gentoo users
Robert Fisher wrote: Today qemu was upgraded to version 0.8.0 and it stopped working. I have gone back to version 0.7.2 and all is OK again. emerge =qemu-0.7.2 emerge =qemu-softmmu-0.7.2 beast ~ # emerge -s qemu * app-emulation/kqemu Latest version available: 0.7.2 Latest version installed: 0.7.2 * app-emulation/qemu Latest version available: 0.8.0 Latest version installed: 0.7.2 * app-emulation/qemu-softmmu Latest version available: 0.8.0 Latest version installed: 0.7.2 * app-emulation/qemu-user Latest version available: 0.8.0 Latest version installed: 0.7.2 On my Gentoo-amd64-system qemu still works after upgrading. The only change I have seen is that "-hdb fat:/" does not result in a crash. I am not using the kernel-module and I have only run ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/). * app-emulation/kqemu Latest version available: 0.7.2 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] * app-emulation/qemu Latest version available: 0.8.0 Latest version installed: 0.8.0 * app-emulation/qemu-softmmu Latest version available: 0.8.0 Latest version installed: 0.8.0 * app-emulation/qemu-user Latest version available: 0.8.0 Latest version installed: 0.8.0 P.S.: Shipped with ReactOS there was also a precompiled version of qemu for Windows. I can run that with wine and it is still reasonably fast. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: acroread 7
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: [...] Good news. What are "all document viewers"? Unfortunately there isn't a usable postscript viewer right now. (Other than an obsolete version of ghostscript.) How about kghostview? [...] Volker Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: os ??
John Mallett wrote: I have heard the open office does not work. I also remember when kde first started. There were a few bugs in it then. But they were quite quickly fixed. Ver 3.5 might already have got rid of most of them. On my Gentoo server/laptop KDE 3.5 does work very well. So does OOo2.0 under Fedora and Ubuntu on the same box. The only thing that is a bit tricky to get working is flash. Happy Hacking, Robert J. C. Himmelmann
Re: Be thankful for linux
Steve Holdoway wrote: add the 'tml' back on to the end of the url (: How could I miss that? Shame over me. Steve On Tue, November 8, 2005 8:55 am, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Maurice Butler wrote: Check out the lastest windows nightmare http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/11/more-on-sony-dangerous-decloaking.h tml The link does not work but it shows that the site is running IIS. Maybe they are so Microsoft-friendly that they removed the page. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Be thankful for linux
Maurice Butler wrote: Check out the lastest windows nightmare http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/11/more-on-sony-dangerous-decloaking.h tml The link does not work but it shows that the site is running IIS. Maybe they are so Microsoft-friendly that they removed the page. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: very small linux portable
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Maybe a Sharp Zaurus -- they run Qtopia - an embedded Qt-based environment ontop of Linux. Thanks Hugo, looks interesting, but I don't think it's quite it. IIRC someone managed to install his own $linuxdistro, and it had an external keyboard and monitor plugged in, though I may be wrong on that. It was larger than a PDA. Volker You can plug a a monitor into a small PCMCIA-card which you plug into a small PCMCIA-to-CF-converter which you can plug into a Zaurus... Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Extracting from mac .bin files
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Of course it probably requires a different version of glibc, and probably doesn't have a nice packaging format ;) No it seems fine, simple tar file and ldd shows no problems. I won't run it now as I don't want to have to track its invasiveness at this point (the 15 day timebomb has to work somehow). Which one are you going to try? I could run it in my unionfs-sandbox and tell you if it has changed any files. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 19:37, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Second Moral: Backups or version control systems are a Good Idea. Which one do you recommend? pdumpfs. It uses hardlinks for multiple backups. pdumpfs --exclude=music /home/robert/ /data/backup/home/ >/data/backup/home/log 2>/data/backup/home/error-log Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: 64-bit Linux
Lee Begg wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:04, Robert Himmelmann wrote: I have Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora and SuSE (not yet SUSE) on my laptop. Debian does work but there have been no updates for almost half a year, so I do not recommend it. Debian-amd64 moved servers about 6 months ago. There is now a good range of mirrors and it will hopefully be included into the debian itself soon. See the how-to. I've been using debian-amd64 since January on this computer and it has been create. I run a few things in a 32bit (x86) chroot, such as openoffice.org, but it isn't bad. Looking forward to oo.o 2.0 that will be able to be compiled and run natively under 64bit. I am actually not sure where some of my applications are running and wheter they are 32 or 64bit. I have an old-ish install cd for debian-amd64, if anyone wants a copy. I changed everything from sarge to sid. Now it does work. They are probably not taking the trouble of doing anything for amd64-sarge anymore. Thanks for the hint. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Later Lee Begg Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: 64-bit Linux
Jamie Dobbs wrote: Having just built myself a new AMD64 3200+ machine I've been playing around with Gentoo for AMD 64 and must say that I am pretty impressed with the overall speed, but a little concerned about the lack of applications that have been ported to 64bit (no Openoffice yet for example). emerge app-office/openoffice-bin I do not use it under Gentoo but under Fedora because there I have version 1.9. What other Linux distros offer 64 bit versions? Can anoyone provide me with copies of them? (I will of course replace media). Thanks Jamie I have Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora and SuSE (not yet SUSE) on my laptop. Debian does work but there have been no updates for almost half a year, so I do not recommend it. SuSE and Fedora are composite. The only programs I found that are 32-bit only are Flash and Opera. They both work with chroot out of the box. Even ati-drivers are 64-bit. There are more unstable packages under amd64-Gentoo than under x86. Otherwise there have been absolutely no problems. I recommend Fedora or (K)Ubuntu to you. If you do have any amd64-spcific problems which I do not expect you can mail my. I would give you CDs but unfortunatly I am in Germany. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Fedora Problem
Greetings,
I tried to set up apt under Fedora. apt-get update and synaptic complain
that about half of my packages are broken:
W: There are multiple versions of "libavc1394_0" in your system.
This package won't be cleanly updated, unless you leave
only one version. To leave multiple versions installed,
you may remove that warning by setting the following
option in your configuration file:
RPM::Allow-Duplicated { "^libavc1394_0$"; };
fedora / # yum info audit-libs
Setting up repositories
()
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Installed Packages
Name : audit-libs
Arch : x86_64
Version: 1.0.4
Release: 1.fc4
Size : 95 k
Repo : installed
Summary: Dynamic library for libaudit
(...)
Name : audit-libs
Arch : i386
Version: 1.0.4
Release: 1.fc4
Size : 52 k
Repo : installed
Summary: Dynamic library for libaudit
This definatly does not look good. I had to fiddle a bit around with the
files in /etc/yum.repos.d but I cannot remember seeing i386 anywhere.
Does anyone know how to fix this? I do not want to fix every single one
of the 436 broken packages manually especially if I have to use yum. I
also do not have any important configuration of data on that partition
except for to other distributions, so reinstalling is an option.
Happy Hacking,
Robert Himmelmann
Re: Read this before trying control-alt-backspace
John Carter wrote: Since X hasn't ever frozen solid on me (...) On my system(s) X and various other parts of the system, particularly the Kernel did freeze regularly. It might have been my rather complicated setup but features like C-M-Bs and killall X are useful in these cases. Unfortunately they do not work for the interrupt handler and serious bugs in kernel modules. In those cases you have to restart everything unless you are using virtualisation. For a decade. I haven't been into GNU/Linux that long but the problems got worse when I tried to do things no sane person would ever think of. (See various threads on running multiple distributions at the same time &c.) Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Fwd: Re: Hint for Emacs users for the Day...
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
Indeed, but what Steve said is _very_ valid none the less, and similarly
*never* vi /etc/group use vigr instead
Well let's cut the editor stuff and keep in mind not to edit /etc/passwd
and /etc/group directly. Of course, one can just use the programs made
for this sort of job: {user,group}{add,mod,del}. No special $EDITOR
needed. Time to rest this thread?
Volker
But how about visudo?
Happy Hacking,
Robert Himmelmann
Re: Second copy of kdm
Nick Rout wrote: So you would end up running two copies of kdm on the same machine? (one from ubuntu, one from suse?) - why not try running the suse X startup script /etc/init.d/whatever start I tried it. It prints a nice message that it has started kdm for which I cannot find any evidence. We have had this discussion before, but really trying to run two distros at once is of little value IMHO. Yes, by now I have given up the the idea of having only two distros as well. On my laptop I am now running six plus a unionfs-copy of gentoo as sandbox for proftpd and sshd. With some use of mv I can even start any of the six. When I have some time in the next holidays I will try to get xen working. Then I can run them all at once! But really there are some profits: OOo does not work well under Gentoo but under Fedora I have a well working OOo 1.9. I also need Sun Java 1.4.2 with BlueJ for school. Instead of installing another Java under Gentoo I can use the one from SuSE 9.2. If you really want to do it keep fiddling :) Yes, I do. It is much better fun than the normal computer games and far less expensive. ;) Collecting distros has become somthing like a hobby for me. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Second copy of kdm
Thanks, after ln -s /opt/kde3/bin/startkde /usr/bin/startkde that does work! Nick Rout wrote: a bit of googling suggests: xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :1 On Sun, 2005-09-25 at 12:14 +0200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # startkde #Yes, I do use root under ubuntu xsetroot: unable to open display '' xset: unable to open display "" xset: unable to open display "" xset: unable to open display "" xsetroot: unable to open display '' startkde: Starting up... ksplash: cannot connect to X server kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory ksmserver: cannot connect to X server startkde: Shutting down... Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory Error: Can't contact kdeinit! startkde: Running shutdown scripts... startkde: Done. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Buddha said: "I consider the positions of kings and rulers as that of dust motes. I observe treasures of gold and gems as so many bricks and pebbles. I look upon the finest silken robes as tattered rags. I see myriad worlds of the universe as small seeds of fruit, and the greatest lake in India as a drop of oil on my foot. I perceive the teachings of the world to be the illusion of magicians. I discern the highest conception of emancipation as a golden brocade in a dream, and view the holy path of the illuminated ones as flowers appearing in one's eyes. I see meditation as a pillar of a mountain, Nirvana as a nightmare of daytime. I look upon the judgment of right and wrong as the serpentine dance of a dragon, and the rise and fall of beliefs as but traces left by the four seasons."
Re: Second copy of kdm
Nick Rout wrote: Thinking aloud, chroot into the suse root dir and run startkde? Or set .xinitrx to start your WM of choice? startkde does not work. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # startkde #Yes, I do use root under ubuntu xsetroot: unable to open display '' xset: unable to open display "" xset: unable to open display "" xset: unable to open display "" xsetroot: unable to open display '' startkde: Starting up... ksplash: cannot connect to X server kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory ksmserver: cannot connect to X server startkde: Shutting down... Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory Error: Can't contact kdeinit! startkde: Running shutdown scripts... startkde: Done. .xinitrc is a good hint but is there any easy way to start kdm? Not that is is strictly necessary but it would be a bit nicer. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Second copy of kdm
Nick Rout wrote: X :1 -query localhost OR X :1 -broadcast I tried X :1 under SuSE 9.2 after chrooting into it from Ubuntu which was running X with Gnome on tty7. It only showed a grey screen with mouse on tty8. Does anyone know how to start kde on that X? I tried "DISPLAY=:1 startx" and it works but it is too dirty for normal use. This is not on my computer but my mother's one. She is used to SuSE but Ubuntu works much better, especially for the WLAN. It would be nice for her to switch back to SuSE through pressing C-M-F8. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Boot Problem with Fedora
Peter Glassenbury wrote: Off the cuff answer... Try turning off "rhgb" in the /boot/grub/grub.conf . Depending on what is happening when, we have found a problem with the X graphical boot startup causing problems with something (driver? module not loaded properly??) but on some AMD 64's the startup would "fail" at different spots on the boot up about every 2nd or 3rd boot. Since I don't really like the graphical boot, it wasn't too much of a hassle to turn it off. That did prevent the crash but I was however still in text mode. I removed the line . /data/gentoo/etc/profile.in from my /etc/profile and two seconds ! after writing the changes to disk gdm started. There is obviously some incompatiblity between profile.in, a file I have written, and gdm/Fedora. Thanks for your help. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Boot Problem with Fedora
Greetings, I recently installed Fedora Core 4 for amd64. It worked fine for the first boot but now it hangs during bootup. The last things that is printed is Starting HAL daemon. The whole thing which shows the messages that are normally shown in a framebuffer then freezes and I cannot do anything. The led for the harddisk does show some access. With pressing i I entered the interactive bootup and disabled HAL. That did not help. When I switch to console with C-M-Fx before the thing freezes I can log in and use startx to get X working. I also found the following a few hundret times in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: AUDIT: Sat Sep 17 12:41:19 2005: 5600 X: client 17 rejected from local host Does anyone have any idea what to do? Otherwise Fedora looks quite good. I do not like yum as much as emerge or apt and apt is also bot working yet but some packages are newer than under Gentoo and especially the configuration of my wlan-card was easy once I had found the configuration utility. Thanks, Robert Himmelmann
Re: wget redirecting screws up filename
Greetings, wget http://laby.toybox.de/download2.php?fileid=15 does the same. In http there is some part of the header which specifies the filename of whatever is being transmitted. They use Apache/1.3.33 with PHP (obviously). I would think that they forgot this field when they wrote the script. (You have to specify it) Firefox probably uses in cases like this the URL it had before the redirect and wget the one after. Classify it as a bug in their script and rename the file. Nick Rout wrote: If i use firefox to download this file, all is well. If I use wget it downloads the file, but calls it "download2.php?fileid=15" the url is: http://laby.toybox.de/download15/laby_1.0.1.tar.gz There is some sort of redirect going on there because if you download http://laby.toybox.de/download15/ you also get the file, with the same error from wget Here is the output - why does wget the name wrong when firefox is clever enough to do it right? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp/laby/tmp $ wget http://laby.toybox.de/download15/laby_1.0.1.tar.gz --13:47:04-- http://laby.toybox.de/download15/laby_1.0.1.tar.gz => `laby_1.0.1.tar.gz' Resolving laby.toybox.de... 212.227.43.232 Connecting to laby.toybox.de[212.227.43.232]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily Location: http://laby.toybox.de/download2.php?fileid=15 [following] --13:47:05-- http://laby.toybox.de/download2.php?fileid=15 => `download2.php?fileid=15' Connecting to laby.toybox.de[212.227.43.232]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 4,882,608 [application/x-tgz] Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Time for a new distro...
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Tried Xen? No, but I will. I did try qemu. DO NOT MOUNT THE SAME PARTITION TWICE. (e.g. Once in the "real" system and once in qemu). It results in massive corruption of your hd. When I did this I had to run reiserfsck --rebuild-tree more than once a day. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ As always amd64 is unstable. I need amd64 compatibility because all of my binaries are 64-bit. Xen is also not in the portage tree. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Time for a new distro...
Adrian Robertson wrote: The problem with the ATI linux drivers other than that they can prove dificult to install is that the performance is crap compared to the ATI Windows drivers. Trying to play UT2K4 with my Radeon 9800xt using the linux drivers is just painful. With my 9600Mobility it works well under maximum settings. Might be the gig of RAM or the Athlon 64 3000+ though. I have not tried it with Windows. It was very painfull to install (Driver and UT). So far I got the driver only working under Gentoo. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: FWIW (OpenSolaris 10)
Wesley Parish wrote: I'm intending to fool around with Xen and OpenSolaris, just for the fun of it ;) and see if I can't get my box running Linux, *BSD, OpenSolaris, Plan9, VSTa and a few others that interest me, simultaneously. The ReactOS guys say they want ReactOS to be stable before they port it to Xen. That sounds very much like what I did only more difficult because chroot will not work. We should have met some thime when I was still in Chch. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Time for a new distro...
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:20, Douglas Royds wrote: Voila - (almost) no sign of the Ubuntu look remaining. The only thing I haven't cracked yet is that I still get a brown background to the Gnome splash screen. It looks particularly hideous with a blue splash screen on top of it! ewugh!!! Anybody used Kubuntu? Yes, the color theme is a bit more pleasing. I thought about running one login-manager for every distribution on my computer. (That would be five) I somewhere heard that it is possible. Unfortunately my ati-driver screws up when I switch to another session, so this would not be practicable. It would probably also cause some problems with the .Xauthorities and various other things. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Time for a new distro...
sirlancelot wrote: Do you prefer Gnome or KDE? If you mostly like Ubuntu - and KDE, Mepis is worth a look. You yould also try KUbuntu. Either download it directly or use (sudo) apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Then you have good support for both, KDE and Gnome. Lance Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Gentoo mini-installfest
Christopher Sawtell wrote: (...), but most importantly of all there is now a Graphical Installer. (...) It will, I'm certain, make Gentoo very much more 'approachable' than it has been in the past. Yes, but it will certainly remove all the fun from installing Gentoo. Installing Gentoo the old way is also a very good exercise that helps you understand GNU/Linux. Once it is installed properly Gentoo is quite stable. I have not had any big problems since I have installed Gentoo and I am the cause of most of small ones. Maybe with all these new 64-bit computers Gentoo will become as easy to use and fast as Ubuntu or SuSE. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: file system
Nick Rout wrote: (the x86 partitioning scheme is worse than the 640k memory limit, at least in linux we can ignore the 640k business!) It is worse if you use Windoze. Then your boot-partition must be a promary one. It is also to my information not x86(_64) specific but IDE specific. If you use SCSI there is no distinction between primary, extended and logical partition. I have not tried it because the biggest SCSI drive we have has 2Gb. With drives like that people tend to use LVM and/or RAID instead of multiple partitions. ;) Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
amarok does not recognise mp3
Greetings, I use amarok to play music. With the xine-plugin I can play most kinds of media (Actions -> Play Media). Unfortunately when amarok scans my collection it only recognizes some of the media types xine can play. Under Gentoo it leaves wma out and under Ubuntu mp3 which is even worse. I could convert my whole collection to ogg-vorbis but my mp3-player plays only, as the name implies mp3. I am also short of hard disk space which is not unusual with five OSs on one laptop, so keeping everything twice is also not an option. I tried googling for it and had a look at some configuration file but could not find anything. Is there any way to correct this problem? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Genbisutu or four distros on one laptop
Greetings,
Some of you said that they would like to hear about my experience of
running three (by now four) distributions on one machine.
All distributions I use are 64-bit. My first setup after the installfest
included Gentoo and SuSE. Then I installed Debian and copied SuSE to an
external harddrive. I only have 40Gb on my main drive. After all it is a
laptop I am using. Debian was quite nice but I have not received any
updates for three months or so. The day before yesterday I transfered it
to the external drive as well and installed Ubuntu instead.
Unfortunately I can not boot from the external drive. I use
init-scripts, mount --bind and then chroot to switch to another
distribution. I attached two sample scripts. Both go into /etc/init.d.
The script called Debian goes to the Gentoo installation and makes
Debian be usable from there and vice versa. Both assume that the
partition with Debian/Gentoo is mountable under /data/[distro]. After
executing the script one can use chroot /data/Gentoo. I made aliases for
this: chdeb, chubu, chsus and chgen. I added the line .
/data/Gentoo/etc/profile to all profiles. I also modified PS1 so that it
shows the distribution I am in.
Is there any use in this?
Yes, some. acroread works best under SuSE. (chroot /data/suse acroread
$PWD/$1). Some important part in pango is broken in Gentoo. Because of
this many Gnome appications (gnome-panels, nautilus, gedit &c.) do not
work there. They do however work under Ubuntu and Debian. I use Ubuntu
if I have some issue with my configuration. It is in many respects
easier than Gentoo. If there is something severely wrong with Gentoo or
Ubuntu I do not need to use Knoppix to fix it but can use the other
distribution for that. xine can also decode wma only under debian out of
the box, so I copied some files over to Gentoo and now it works under
both distributions. ATI-drivers are easier to set up there although
there are more games under the other distributions. (I could continue
this list for some time.)
My two favorite distributions are Gentoo and Ubuntu. Gentoo is up to
date and fast. Ubuntu is easy to use, yet because it uses apt very
powerfull. It has also the by far best grahical design ;) and is the
only distribution on which kde and Gnome both work well (after apt-get
install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings).
Happy Hacking,
Robert Himmelmann
#!/sbin/runscript
#depend() {
#}
start() {
ebegin "Starting Debian Emulation"
mount /data/debian 2> /dev/null
mount --bind /dev /data/debian/dev
mount --bind /tmp /data/debian/tmp
mount --bind /proc /data/debian/proc
mount --bind /home /data/debian/home
mount --bind /root /data/debian/root
mount --bind / /data/debian/data/gentoo
mount --bind /data/stuff /data/debian/data/stuff
eend 0
}
stop() {
ebegin "Stoping Debian Emulation"
umount /data/debian/dev
umount /data/debian/tmp
umount /data/debian/proc
umount /data/debian/home
umount /data/debian/root
umount /data/debian/data/gentoo
umount /data/debian/data/stuff
umount /data/debian
eend $?
}
#!/bin/sh
#depend() {
#}
start() {
echo "Starting Gentoo Emulation"
mount /data/gentoo 2> /dev/null
mount --bind /dev /data/gentoo/dev
mount --bind /tmp /data/gentoo/tmp
mount --bind /proc /data/gentoo/proc
mount --bind /home /data/gentoo/home
mount --bind /root /data/gentoo/root
mount --bind / /data/gentoo/data/debian
mount --bind /data/stuff /data/gentoo/data/stuff
return 0
}
stop() {
echo "Stoping Gentoo Emulation"
umount /data/gentoo/dev
umount /data/gentoo/tmp
umount /data/gentoo/proc
umount /data/gentoo/home
umount /data/gentoo/root
umount /data/gentoo/data/debian
umount /data/gentoo/data/stuff
umount /data/gentoo
return $?
}
case "$1" in
start)
start || exit $?
;;
stop)
stop || exit $?
;;
restart)
stop
start || exit $?
;;
*)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/wvdial start/stop/restart"
;;
esac
Re: security/sudo
Jim Cheetham wrote: On Aug 5, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Jim Cheetham wrote: lol. "sudo su" is almost pointless ... "sudo -s" gives you a root shell :-) Ok, I do not have much experience with sudo and typing 'u' is for me easier than '-'. :-) agreed. Functionally they are very similar - in internal detail they are very different. Most of the time people are interested only in functionality ... I commented everything in /etc/sudoers. I do not like sudo. Normally two thirds of the commands I use I do as root. I left one line which lets root use sudo. I do not think that that line is harmfull Then, remove sudo. If you have disabled it like that, why not remove it completely? (One answer - because distribution dependancies might try to prevent you. The answer to that might be Slackware or Linux From Scratch) Maybe not even that: ubuntu / # apt-get remove sudo Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gdm gksu gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-system-tools sudo ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 18.2MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? One of my friends used to do everything on his laptop as the root user. After all, he owned the machine, didn't he? (There's no downside to the story. He never made a costly mistake ;-) Yes, he's that good). I don't trust myself that much. It is also useful to have one account that is known to work. It's up to you how hackable you leave your system. :-) I can rely on security through obsurity. By modifing the keyboard layout for my own needs I have made it very difficult to use for anyone else. The only problem with this is that it is difficult for me to use any computer on which I have not copied that layout. I've supported so many different systems that I've instead become able to use the most default system to do my job. Even on a machine that I expect to use for years, I make very few changes. If you heavily customise your machine, I advise you to also make sure that you can copy and re-apply those essential customisations to a default machine, quickly ;-) It's worth spending a bit of time generalising your setup, because if you get a new stock machine, it will take you much longer when you really need to get it done. I think that's some variation on the laws of thermodynamics ... ;-) I use xmodmap. I tried my layout on an Italian laptop I got from my brother and it works fine. You only have to be at the stage where you do not look at your keyboard. If I do that I always get confused. For my next system I will try to get a keyboard with blank keys. nmap shows that I have only one open port which is ssh and which I disable when I do not need it. Unless you are explicitly asking nmap to probe every port, be aware that it only usually scans a few thousand likely target port numbers by default. Better to use netstat or the excellent "lsof -i TCP" and "lsof -i UDP" to say what ports you really do have open. The only line I get: sshd6611 root3u IPv4 13653 TCP *:ssh (LISTEN) *cough* same friend as above - always disables ports he doesn't need. He plugged his laptop into my network this afternoon ... I nmapped him. One open port - distccd. Hmmm ... he's a gentoo user, that's why he has distcc running. Only one distribution? That would mean that he can only use emerge to install programs. Google says ... http://www.metasploit.com/projects/Framework/exploits.html#distcc_exec http://distcc.samba.org/security.html The server completely trusts an authorized client. A malicious client could execute arbitrary commands on the server. Perhaps he isn't that good after all? I tried distcc as well. There is one function with which you can authorise only clients from certain IPs and domains. There are also options such as running everything in a chroot, switching to a certain user &c. I doubt that he used these. The safest way is probably running it over ssh. :-) Like I said, "It's up to you how hackable you leave your system". Choose any two from these three - "security", "functionality", "complexity". For me that would be twice complexity, althought I would rather call it "not standard conform optimisation which occasionaly breaks the system and makes exesive use of CPU, RAM, hard-disk space and human recources" (TM, C, R &c.) -jim Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Toshiba 1800-100 Graphics
Jim Cheetham wrote: lol. "sudo su" is almost pointless ... "sudo -s" gives you a root shell :-) Ok, I do not have much experience with sudo and typing 'u' is for me easier than '-'. sudo has some major benefits in larger shared-admin systems, but from Ubuntu's point of view, the prime benefit is that the workstation user only has to be able to remember their own password in order to be able to make changes. This model has also been selected by Apple for OSX, for getter or for worse. Of course, you could also edit the sudoers file and declare that your user doesn't need to issue a password in order to get privs ... username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL I commented everything in /etc/sudoers. I do not like sudo. Normally two thirds of the commands I use I do as root. It's up to you how hackable you leave your system. :-) I can rely on security through obsurity. By modifing the keyboard layout for my own needs I have made it very difficult to use for anyone else. The only problem with this is that it is difficult for me to use any computer on which I have not copied that layout. nmap shows that I have only one open port which is ssh and which I disable when I do not need it. -jim Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Calling all Rik's
Nick Rout wrote: It is sensible to have them all done from one system. I thought at this stage my laptop wouold do the trick. I think we have used it with your projector before, so there may be no need for further testing. Was it your projector we used for the talk at the Shirley Workingmens Club? (It was on etherboot with the speaker being a guy from Sydney whose name escapes me right now) How about ethernet and ssh -Y or client-server-X? I am controlling all of the four computers we have in our network via the first method. Till now I have only had problems with accessing my computer, but on that machine I have changed so much that it cannot be conisdered to be a standard system. If someone likes messing up other peoples computers, try the following mini-script over ssh as root: It does not use the -Y option but is very funny if someone else is using the machine: while true ; do killall -s 19 X ; sleep 1 ; killall -s 18 X ; sleep 1 ; done ; WARNING: Do this only over ssh, otherwise it will freeze your mouse, keyboard and screen infinitly. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Looking for Chch-based support
Jim Cheetham wrote: Greeting from the other side, out of the summer, where water drains clock-wise ;-), This part I can only confirm. Our summer here reminds me very much of the winter in New Zealand. My year over there ended a few weeks ago. I was a bit unhappy that I had to leave but being here again is also good, especially because we have T1 here and managing four distributions of which one is Gentoo over dial-up extremly time intensitive. ;) I did a farwell-speech at my school, Papanui High. If anyone is interested, you can download it under http://mitglied.lycos.de/rhimmelm/speech2.pdf. I will still remain on the list and ask questions ;) as the wiki says "(The CLUG) is a non-formalised grouping of people who identify with (some of) the Linux <http://www.google.co.nz/linux> kernel, the GNU project <http://gnu.org>, Open Source <http://opensource.org> software, and the Canterbury region of New Zealand.", all of which I still do. I would like to thank everybody, especially those who organised the Gentoo installfest and Steve Holdoway for the modem and the Sarge-DVDs. I am looking forward to coming back to NZ at some not yet defined time in the future, especially if there is a meeting during the time I am coming. ;) Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Toshiba 1800-100 Graphics
Craig FALCONER wrote: The main problem will be the trident cyberblade. It's a totally bollocks video chipset... I had a 4 Mb one in a toshiba 4030. Try an older version of X... How would you do that under (K)Ubuntu? These links may help http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/malfer1/articls/toshiba.htm My spanish is not that good. Google translation is, as always, very funny but not helping: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpersonal.telefonica.terra.es%2Fweb%2Fmalfer1%2Farticls%2Ftoshiba.htm&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/toshiba.html From one of those descriptions: Legend has it that some guy in Oklahoma went psycho after trying to work with 4.1.0 for 25 straight days. I did not find many particulars about slow graphics but I think that that might have been normal at that time. My first real computer was a K7S5A with an AMD Duron 1200 and 512MB of RAM I used to use twm with nothing particularly flash or heavy on the old machine, and it was fine most of the time. Gnome, KDE and Flash work but you have to be patient. ;) Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann
Re: Toshiba 1800-100 Graphics
Thanks for the help. Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 08:57 +0200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Sorry, I wrote aptitude while I meant synaptic. Greetings, I got an old Toshiba Satellite 1800-100 to configure and play around with. ... For some reason I also thought that there is no root-user on ubuntu. On my system su and logging in over ssh with username root all work well. Of course it has a root user, but the root password is locked unless you set it (sudo passwd root, I used sudo su which worked as well. but last time I mentioned that method Jim smacked my hand). I hope he won't do that with me ;) sudo is a good habit to get into, I use it as a result of a play with ubuntu. Good habits are there to be broken. I do not like to type more than I have to. I only have some problems with 2d-graphics. When I try to play Flash-games they are extremly slow and the cursor flickers while it is over the movie. Fading effects, e.g. what happens with the background when one clicks on System -> Log Out in Gnome 2.10, and scrolling are also slow. The former owner of the laptop said that he experienced somthing similar with Fedora. Easy things such as moving windows still work well. I found out that the grahics card is a trident CyberBlade: It could of course simply be underpowered. I tried to use the vesa-driver. Fading &c. was as slow as before and moving windows was also difficult. Maybe the effects I mentioned in the first mail make use of the processor which has only 800Mhz. I will live with it. :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 5d) I tried googling for the card/laptop but I could only find things that are too old. I also had a look at xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log but could not find anything there: [xorg.conf] ... Section "Device" Identifier "Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1" Driver "trident" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" VideoRAM8192 EndSection ... There are other options that might be appropriate to set or unset. man trident. I tried some options. All results in not being able to start X. [/var/log/Xorg.0.log] ... (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) ... I heard that some people have problems with ACPI and that using APM instead should work. I am not sure what ubuntu uses as I have not compiled this kernel myself. Whatever it does use, it seems to work. I can powersave the monitor, display battery usage and even hibernate. Any help welcome. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann I like the buddhist philosophy, i just wonder whether it is appropriate to have a sig this long on a mailing list? Buddha said: "about 20% of the lines in this email" :-) Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Nothing holy, nothing holy.
Toshiba 1800-100 Graphics
Greetings, I got an old Toshiba Satellite 1800-100 to configure and play around with. Firstly I tried to get gentoo working with distcc but after some time I gave up because I couldn't compile Xorg and even with distcc it was too slow. Then I tried Ubuntu which worked fine. The installation was almost as easy as what I remember form SuSE and aptitude and apt-get are extremly powerfull. They are much easier to use than emerge or yast2. The package database seems to be much more frequently updated than that under Debian Sarge. For some reason I also thought that there is no root-user on ubuntu. On my system su and logging in over ssh with username root all work well. I only have some problems with 2d-graphics. When I try to play Flash-games they are extremly slow and the cursor flickers while it is over the movie. Fading effects, e.g. what happens with the background when one clicks on System -> Log Out in Gnome 2.10, and scrolling are also slow. The former owner of the laptop said that he experienced somthing similar with Fedora. Easy things such as moving windows still work well. I found out that the grahics card is a trident CyberBlade: :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 5d) I tried googling for the card/laptop but I could only find things that are too old. I also had a look at xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log but could not find anything there: [xorg.conf] ... Section "Device" Identifier "Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1" Driver "trident" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" VideoRAM8192 EndSection ... [/var/log/Xorg.0.log] ... (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) ... I heard that some people have problems with ACPI and that using APM instead should work. I am not sure what ubuntu uses as I have not compiled this kernel myself. Whatever it does use, it seems to work. I can powersave the monitor, display battery usage and even hibernate. Any help welcome. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Buddha said: "I consider the positions of kings and rulers as that of dust motes. I observe treasures of gold and gems as so many bricks and pebbles. I look upon the finest silken robes as tattered rags. I see myriad worlds of the universe as small seeds of fruit, and the greatest lake in India as a drop of oil on my foot. I perceive the teachings of the world to be the illusion of magicians. I discern the highest conception of emancipation as a golden brocade in a dream, and view the holy path of the illuminated ones as flowers appearing in one's eyes. I see meditation as a pillar of a mountain, Nirvana as a nightmare of daytime. I look upon the judgment of right and wrong as the serpentine dance of a dragon, and the rise and fall of beliefs as but traces left by the four seasons."
Re: debugging USB device problems
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I have problems on some old hardware with attaching USB devices reliably. Symptoms are that the kernel somehow hangs, because running lsusb or reading /proc/scsi/scsi creates processes which can't be kill -9'ed. This happens with SuSE 9.2 and FC3, however it doesn't happen with SuSE 8.2 and probably FC1. Clearly this isn't a hardware problem or a problem of Linux-incompatible hardware, but one of "fixed" kernel USB handling. It also looks distro-nonspecific. Any ideas how I would go about making this work again? Thanks, Volker I had a similar problem with Gentoo and my Usb-hdd. Mount and usbview hanged and were not killable (I used C-c). I also noticed that top showed full processor usage although there was no process doing much. Sometimes the device-nodes for the usb-hdd (/dev/sda1-3) disappeared. This only happened after booting when the device was attached to the computer during the boot-process. When I took it out and plugged it in again everything worked fine. After upgrading the kernel a few times it got better and now I get this weird behaviour only once in a while. I think it stopped with kernel 2.10.12.something. I am using amd64 with the gentoo-sources if that helps. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Buddha said: "I consider the positions of kings and rulers as that of dust motes. I observe treasures of gold and gems as so many bricks and pebbles. I look upon the finest silken robes as tattered rags. I see myriad worlds of the universe as small seeds of fruit, and the greatest lake in India as a drop of oil on my foot. I perceive the teachings of the world to be the illusion of magicians. I discern the highest conception of emancipation as a golden brocade in a dream, and view the holy path of the illuminated ones as flowers appearing in one's eyes. I see meditation as a pillar of a mountain, Nirvana as a nightmare of daytime. I look upon the judgment of right and wrong as the serpentine dance of a dragon, and the rise and fall of beliefs as but traces left by the four seasons."
Re: advanced xmodmaping
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: You're out of luck, the mechanism only provides for 4 columns IIUC. The "e" is the fivth and is ignored. Someone obviously forgot to put in an error-message. The key with code 117 has at the moment no function. How can I set it so that pressing 117 and 1 produces e? Assign Mode_switch to 117. "e" must be in the 3rd column, or 4th with shift. I already have a Mode_switch key called "Alt Gr" with code 115. Is it possible to assign both Shift and Mode_switch to one key, so that I press that key and the value form the 4. column is used? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Tanzan and Ekido were once traveling together down a muddy road. A heavy rain was still falling. Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash, unable to cross the intersection. "Come on, girl" said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried her over the mud. Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't go near females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is dangerous. Why did you do that?" "I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
advanced xmodmaping
Greetings, I am using xmodmap to modify my keymap. So far this is working quite well. I know that when I put keycode 1 = a b c d e into my .xmodmaprc pressing the key with number 1 gives a, key+shift gives b, key+mode_sitch gives c and key+mode_switch+shift gives d. Now I would like to assign another modifier key. The key with code 117 has at the moment no function. How can I set it so that pressing 117 and 1 produces e? As not many people seem to do things like this I did not find anything about it on the net. If this works I will assign a+new_modifier to 1, b+new_modifier to 2, c+new_modifier to 3 &c. Then I would be able to type numbers without moving my fingers form the normal typing position. I already have assigned d+mode_switch to $ and ö+mode_switch to ö while ö without modifier is /. (On my German keyboard ö is right of l). Thanks, Robert Himmelmann Tanzan and Ekido were once traveling together down a muddy road. A heavy rain was still falling. Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash, unable to cross the intersection. "Come on, girl" said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried her over the mud. Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't go near females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is dangerous. Why did you do that?" "I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
Re: GLU workshop July 6th +SFD
Nick Rout wrote: I wasn't suggesting converting it to html (although I believe OOo will do it for you). Just put a copy of the document up, on the wiki, or on your own site, whatever you like. However a pdf may be better. Again OOo has a one button conversion. It's also a more widely readable format than sxw. Why restrict yourself to an audience of people who have OOo? Isn't that the sort of attitude we are trying to fix? OK it is better than an entirely proprietary format like word, but still more restrictive than .pdf. How about .ps? It is open and under *ix it is more easily readable than PDF. Most Windows user won't understand it thou. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Tanzan and Ekido were once traveling together down a muddy road. A heavy rain was still falling. Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash, unable to cross the intersection. "Come on, girl" said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried her over the mud. Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't go near females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is dangerous. Why did you do that?" "I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
Re: brainfade on cutting sections out of a file
I just wrote a small one in python. Invoke with "python startend.py filename STARTMARK ENDMARK". Maybe it works. Nick Rout wrote: I want to search a file and extract every line between a set of markers. ie the file might look like asd zxc qwe STARTMARK kdsf klsd ENDMARK lksdjf l;sdkf;s random STARTMARK siuosid ;slkd; f ENDMARK the output will be: STARTMARK kdsf klsd ENDMARK STARTMARK siuosid ;slkd; f ENDMARK Or even better the output could be a series of files named out1, out2 etc with a set of lines delineated by STARTMARK and ENDMARK. Then I could diff them! -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" #!/bin/python import sys file = open(sys.argv[1], 'r') MARK1 = sys.argv[2]+"\n" MARK2 = sys.argv[3]+"\n" print MARK1, MARK2, sys.argv[0] i=0 current = 0 for line in file: if current: if line == MARK2: out = open(sys.argv[1]+'.'+str(i), 'w') for x in current: out.write(x) out.write(line) out.close() i += 1 current = [] else: current.append(line) else: if line == MARK1: current = [line]
Re: Debian for a Gentoo-user
Steve Holdoway wrote: Robert Himmelmann wrote: 1. His package is unstable Nothing unusual. 2. AMD64 is not yet fully tested and/or supported. I am used to that by now. 3. He assumes that I want to rebuild my kernel with the (outdated) Debian kernel-sources. I do not want to do this. I already have an optimized kernel from Gentoo with working fglrx. I tried to edit /etc/X11/Xfree-conf4 I did not get any error in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. but glxinfo shows that I am still using mesa. I will keep trying and googleing. I think I will try to solve some other, more important problems first. Because I do not use fglrx I can also switch to tty1-6 which is very usefull until I can figure out why Ctrl-Alt-Esc does not work. I forget you're on 64 bit. The laptop's running 8.11.0 from www.kernel.org on Intel M. Keep well away from ReiserFS if you're trying this at home kids. For completeness: Never mount the same partition twice with two different operating systems. It causes a lot of corruption. If you ask yourself why anbody would do that you probably haven't used qemu yet. A new question: 4. I tried to use (X)Emacs under Debian. When I use the Debian one or chroot into Gentoo or SuSE I always get the same result: The whole interface looks differently, especially the font is too big. As I cannot anything else I think that X is the cause of this. Is there any way to transfer the settings I have from Gentoo to Debian? I've spent ages thinking of a sarcastic and witty sentence that I could use the letters vim in predominately, but failed. Time for a holiday... Well, I already have three distros, why not two editors. I am emergeing/apt-getting it. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Debian for a Gentoo-user
Thanks for the help Steve Holdoway wrote: Robert Himmelmann wrote: I now found out why my Debian did not start. I had included the following lines in /etc/fstab: devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 After deleting them (and reinstalling) it now works. I managed to convert my init-scripts that start wvdial and make it possible to run applications after chroot to the format used in Debian. The whole boot-process and init-scripts under Gentoo are much better organized than under Debian but both work. I'd be interested in a comparison. Not being a gentooist and all that. It can't be worse than slackware, can it? I personally haven't used slackware (four distributions are enough for a beginning). The init-scripts under Gentoo were very easy to understand but that was about the only thing. The installation for Debian was much easier. At the moment I have some problems with the GUI but that is mostly because I am using Gnome there. This solves the problem of two KDEs using the same configuration but it makes other things more difficult. At the moment I think using Gnome-applications under KDE is much easier than the other way round. There are still a few questions I have: 1. I am using my Gentoo kernel with all of its modules, so I can load fglrx. But I have found no equivalent to opengl-update. How can I change the driver from mesa to ati? See http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html Made a *massive* difference on an acer aspire laptop with a radeon 9700. 1. His package is unstable Nothing unusual. 2. AMD64 is not yet fully tested and/or supported. I am used to that by now. 3. He assumes that I want to rebuild my kernel with the (outdated) Debian kernel-sources. I do not want to do this. I already have an optimized kernel from Gentoo with working fglrx. I tried to edit /etc/X11/Xfree-conf4 I did not get any error in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. but glxinfo shows that I am still using mesa. I will keep trying and googleing. 2. /etc/conf.d seems to exist only under Gentoo. Where do I place things that should be executed once during the boot-process? (e.g. "echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor") Under Gentoo it was /etc/conf.d/local.start. Do I have to write an init-script for these things? Configuration of Init under Debian GNU/Linux Most Unix versions have a file here that describes how the scripts in this directory work, and how the links in the /etc/rc?.d/ directories influence system startup/shutdown. For Debian, this information is contained in the policy manual, chapter 9.3: system run levels. The home site for the Debian Policy Manual is at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ The Debian Policy Manual is also available in the Debian package `debian-policy'. When this package is installed, the policy manual can be found in directory /usr/share/doc/debian-policy. If you have a browser installed you can probably read it at file://localhost/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/ Make sure you have at least version 3.5.4.0 of the policy manual. Some more detailed info can also be found in /usr/share/doc/sysvinit. There is no init script that is always run. That is intentional, as the differing run levels historically have different functions. The fact the debian use run level 3 and /etc/init.d/gdm for the graphical interface instead of run level 5 is irrelevant ( obviously, as debian is perfect, there can be no mistakes, can there (: ). FYI, RedHat/Fedora use /etc/rc.sysinit and /etc/rc.local for these requirements. $0.02 from a totally unbiased reporter... Ok, I will read a bit and do some hacking. 3. Not really a problem but a curiosity: When I use "chroot /data/debian" whoami still gives robert. (chroot has the s-bit on my systems.) I also only have normal user-rights in the chroot. What does the s-bit actually change? setuid - the process runs as the effective user of the owner of the process. There is the concept or 'real' and 'effective' user which may be ( I understate! ) confusing. man setuid is confusing, but I think I got the principles. A new question: 4. I tried to use (X)Emacs under Debian. When I use the Debian one or chroot into Gentoo or SuSE I always get the same result: The whole interface looks differently, especially the font is too big. As I cannot anything else I think that X is the cause of this. Is there any way to transfer the settings I have from Gentoo to Debian? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Debian for a Gentoo-user
I now found out why my Debian did not start. I had included the following lines in /etc/fstab: devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto0 0 After deleting them (and reinstalling) it now works. I managed to convert my init-scripts that start wvdial and make it possible to run applications after chroot to the format used in Debian. The whole boot-process and init-scripts under Gentoo are much better organized than under Debian but both work. There are still a few questions I have: 1. I am using my Gentoo kernel with all of its modules, so I can load fglrx. But I have found no equivalent to opengl-update. How can I change the driver from mesa to ati? 2. /etc/conf.d seems to exist only under Gentoo. Where do I place things that should be executed once during the boot-process? (e.g. "echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor") Under Gentoo it was /etc/conf.d/local.start. Do I have to write an init-script for these things? 3. Not really a problem but a curiosity: When I use "chroot /data/debian" whoami still gives robert. (chroot has the s-bit on my systems.) I also only have normal user-rights in the chroot. What does the s-bit actually change? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Puzzle apparently solved; MTU the clue (Was: Puzzle, ppp)
Ken.McAllister wrote: Both problems (not sending email with more than a few words, and not receiving secure web pages) are apparently solved by taking mtu in stages down to 250.The original setting (from ifconfig) was apparently MTU:1500. I wonder what made the change necessary? Switching from Mandrake to Ubuntu? Switching from Ubuntu to Mandrake? I found it very messy and tedious getting Ubuntu on line (dial-up), although my daughter's installation had previously gone smoothly. Try wvdial. Is is cmd-based and has so far worked with the same configuration under SuSE 9.2, Gentoo, Debian and Knoppix. Tools like this are very usefull if you are often switching your distribution or are running multiple distros like me. I wonder why Telstra Clear didn't suggest MTU to me? Perhaps they would have if they'd known. Thanks again Nick and Jim -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Meeting reminder
I know I am very late with this but is there anyone who could pick me up and bring me back? I live at Idris Road 85, Bryndwr/Fendalton. I have a laptop, so transport should not be too difficult. Nick Rout wrote: CLUG meeting reminder, tonight, 7.30 pm. St Albans. http://clug.net.nz/index.php/MeetingSchedule Tue 14 June: A Massive Multi-User Linux LAN Party As a change from the somewhat serious topics presented recently, we thought that we'd have an evening of Fun and Games for the young at heart of all ages. There will be a server available with an archive of programs ranging from the simple 2D single user games to the fully multi-user networked and interactive video offerings. This evening will effectively dispel the lie that Linux is "only for command line geeks". Players will need to bring their own CAT5 cables and mains distribution boxes. Open to members, new members, and friends. Bring your favourite Free Linux game to share. Thanks, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Genbisu: It's working!
I just reinstlled Debian. Now it works. Mostly yes. What I am after is the 4. to 6. column for the root disk. For some reason that part is different from Gentoo. When I try to boot Debian I get the following: fsck 1.37 (21-March-2005): Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory. fsck failed. Please repair manually. CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup. /dev/console: No such file or directory Give root-password for maintance (or press CONTROL-D for normal startup): After loging in in that mode ls /dev shows only ten files. None of them starts with hda. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Genbisu: It's working!
Nick Rout wrote: I still have a few problems: 1. I have copied my /etc/fstab over from Gentoo to Debian and edited it slightly which resulted in its not being able to boot anymore. When I tried to restore the old configuration I delted the backup. Could anyone please post hist /etc/fstab? very much hand engineered, none of us can guess your partition setup. You have one in suse and one in gentoo. both will be closer to your setup than anything anyone here can supply you with! Mostly yes. What I am after is the 4. to 6. column for the root disk. For some reason that part is different from Gentoo. When I try to boot Debian I get the following: fsck 1.37 (21-March-2005): Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory. fsck failed. Please repair manually. CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup. /dev/console: No such file or directory Give root-password for maintance (or press CONTROL-D for normal startup): After loging in in that mode ls /dev shows only ten files. None of them starts with hda. 2. After chrooting into Debian or SuSE I cannot connect to the internet anymore. I have used mount --bind to bind /tmp, /dev, /proc, /home, and /root from Gentoo to Debian and SuSE. If "Everything is a file" where is the file which is used to access the net? I can still access local servers, so I will set up a proxy-server if nothing else works. perhaps /etc/resolv.conf (needed for name resolution) - try copying it before chrooting, like in the gentoo setup. When you say "cannot access the internet" it is very vague - can you ping by IP address? Can you resolve hostnames? It was /etc/resolv.conf. After coping that over everything works. 3. I have tried a few servers for updates for Debian but I have found none which has updates for amd64. Has anyone found any yet? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Genbisu: It's working!
Greetings, I have now Debian, SuSE and Gentoo running simultanusly and - it works! I keep SuSE as backup, use Debian for experiments and have Gentoo for normal everyday work. Gentoo is updated twice weekly and SuSE not at all. If I have any problems under Gentoo I can still run SuSE or Debian. This happened with oowriter which printed a few errors under entoo bt worked under SuSE. Acroread 7.0 is also only available as rpm and does not work under amd64-Gentoo. Because SuSE is on the external HD I can only boot Debian and Gentoo. Normally I use Gentoo or Debian with Gentoo-kernel. For the latter alternative I configured the Gentoo-partition as /boot for Debian. If there is something wrong with the Gentoo-kernel I can also but Debian with Debian-kernel. One of the problems I have is that I sometimes don't know which distribution I am in. I have configured my Promt (PS1) so that it shows the current distribution (e.g. "gentoo ~ $" in green for user or in red for root). It is also very fortunate that under SuSE the style for KDE and Gnome applications is different. That makes it easier to distinguish the two. I still have a few problems: 1. I have copied my /etc/fstab over from Gentoo to Debian and edited it slightly which resulted in its not being able to boot anymore. When I tried to restore the old configuration I delted the backup. Could anyone please post hist /etc/fstab? 2. After chrooting into Debian or SuSE I cannot connect to the internet anymore. I have used mount --bind to bind /tmp, /dev, /proc, /home, and /root from Gentoo to Debian and SuSE. If "Everything is a file" where is the file which is used to access the net? I can still access local servers, so I will set up a proxy-server if nothing else works. 3. I have tried a few servers for updates for Debian but I have found none which has updates for amd64. Has anyone found any yet? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Xemacs (Was: Re: SOLVED; Re: Booting Debian with Grub)
For me it works fine under SuSE 9.2 and Gentoo. Under Gentoo there was that bug yesterday (see last thread). There it looks somewhat better and newer although the version numbers are the same. There might be a later tk or something like that on Gentoo. Emacs without the X is a bit nicer to use under SuSE where all the packages are already installed. I also like Novells deault configuration. P.S. Xemacs doesn't work for long (buffer glitch?), on Debian or Ubuntu, on my laptop. Where's best support now?.. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Booting Debian with Grub
I'm not on my Debian partition as yet (but can be if requried), though this is how Grub makes my workaday Ubuntu start, if that's any help: titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 root(hd0,11) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-k7 root=/dev/hda12 ro quiet splash initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-k7 savedefault boot Tip for the uninitiated: use Ext3 filesystem to avoid potential problems, _especially_ on sensitive laptops. Reiser is so clever it can get (seemingly) intractably entangled in 'fault'-mode. Not necessary. hth, Rik Yes, I have had some probelms with reiser. By now everything is working and I don't want to change. I also see my laptop more as a portable desktop. It is running 7/24 and it is only a laptop because anything else wold have been extremely expensive to get here from Germany. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
SOLVED; Re: Booting Debian with Grub
Using Google I found out that I have to add ramdisk_size=1 to the kernel-options. After doing that the system now boots. It is slow, has no framebuffer and I have to find a way to get rid of all the knoppix-artwork. I hope this will keep me busy or some time and I can do all of it comfortabely from Gentoo. Now I have finally apt-get, emerge and yast running at the same time! Thanks for all your help. Robert Himmelmann wrote: Greeting, I finally managed to install Debian. I used knoppix-installer-latest-web from KNOPPIX 3.9.[1] It was somewhat easier and with 20 minutes much faster that Gentoo (8 hours) or even SuSE (2 hours). I skipped the setup for lilo as I already have grub from Gentoo. I tried to add the following to grub.conf: title Debian GNU/Linux kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda2 initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd.img It is a mixture of what I used for SuSE, Debian and the lilo.conf from Debian. When I try to boot I get a kernel panic: Could not mount root fs on block xxx. This happens beore the framebuffer is initialised. I used reiserfs for the partition. Does anyone know what I have to do to get it working? [1] Steve, the DVDs you gave me are unfrotunatly for ia64 not amd64. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Booting Debian with Grub
I found the following during the boot-sequence: chcking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 4007k freed (...) RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 RAMDISK: incomplete write (-28 != 32768) 4194304 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2) It is copied from qemu-system-x86-64 but looks similar when I try to boot normally. Nick Rout wrote: You have snipped the context, but if you are replying to me and the reiser module is in your initrd then yes, reiser should be available at boot. I'd look at Steve's reply regarding the contents of your grub configuration file. Regards, Nick. On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:09:13 +1200 Robert Himmelmann wrote: After modprobe ext2 this worked (Sometimes modules are usefull). find /mount/whatever -name "*reiser*" gave /mount/whatever/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/fs/reiserfs /mount/whatever/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/fs/reiserfs/reiserfs.ko That looks about right. Is it all I need to mount reiser? -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Weired Xemacs behaviour
After another emerge sync; emerge -uD world all problems were gone. Now I don't get any errors when I press M-Backspace and xemacs does not crash anymore. I suppose it was a bug somewhere. Thanks for all the help. Robert Himmelmann wrote: Greetings, When I start xemacs in a terminal and type M-Backspace in the window that appears I get the following output: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) Resource id in failed request: 0x2001c6b Serial number of failed request: 2949 Current serial number in output stream: 2951 X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 25 (X_SendEvent) Resource id in failed request: 0x2001c6b Serial number of failed request: 2950 Current serial number in output stream: 2951 Other than this the key works and deletes the word directly in front of the cursor. If I press M-Backspace thrice in a row xemacs crashes. According to xmodmap -pke M-Backspace does not seem to have any special meaning: keycode 22 = BackSpace Terminate_Server (I have a modified German keyboard, so the keycode might be different) Does anyone know why things are behaving here as they are? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: SOLVED: Re: Booting Debian with Grub
Sorry, wrong thread. Robert Himmelmann wrote: After another emerge sync; emerge -uD world all problems were gone. Now I don't get any errors when I press M-Backspace and xemacs does not crash anymore. I suppose it was a bug somewhere. Thanks for all the help. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
SOLVED: Re: Booting Debian with Grub
After another emerge sync; emerge -uD world all problems were gone. Now I don't get any errors when I press M-Backspace and xemacs does not crash anymore. I suppose it was a bug somewhere. Thanks for all the help. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Booting Debian with Grub
After modprobe ext2 this worked (Sometimes modules are usefull). find /mount/whatever -name "*reiser*" gave /mount/whatever/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/fs/reiserfs /mount/whatever/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/fs/reiserfs/reiserfs.ko That looks about right. Is it all I need to mount reiser? -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Booting Debian with Grub
Nick Rout wrote: Maybe reiser is not in the kernel or the initrd (although that would seem to be an odd omission, but I am not familiar enough with debian to say) Fortunately though debian does have the config file stored in /boot usually, so take a peek at that. cat /data/debian/boot/config-2.6.11 | grep REISER gives CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=m # CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set # CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO is not set CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY=y I suppose this means that it is a module. How can I find out if it is included in initrd and if it is not make a new initrd with the module? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Booting Debian with Grub
Greeting, I finally managed to install Debian. I used knoppix-installer-latest-web from KNOPPIX 3.9.[1] It was somewhat easier and with 20 minutes much faster that Gentoo (8 hours) or even SuSE (2 hours). I skipped the setup for lilo as I already have grub from Gentoo. I tried to add the following to grub.conf: title Debian GNU/Linux kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda2 initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd.img It is a mixture of what I used for SuSE, Debian and the lilo.conf from Debian. When I try to boot I get a kernel panic: Could not mount root fs on block xxx. This happens beore the framebuffer is initialised. I used reiserfs for the partition. Does anyone know what I have to do to get it working? [1] Steve, the DVDs you gave me are unfrotunatly for ia64 not amd64. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Weired Xemacs behaviour
Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 12:30 +1200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: By now it also crashes sometimes when I press M-w. All this has started happening after my last emerge sync; emerge -uD world. I cannot remember to have seen any update for xemacs but there were various changes in other packages. I am using Gentoo on amd64 if that helps. have you used etc-update or (preferably) dispatch-conf since the last update? I used etc-update. There were no noticable changes. Most came from KDE 3.4.1 and were I18N. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Weired Xemacs behaviour
By now it also crashes sometimes when I press M-w. All this has started happening after my last emerge sync; emerge -uD world. I cannot remember to have seen any update for xemacs but there were various changes in other packages. I am using Gentoo on amd64 if that helps. As the output of xmodmap shows on my system it seems to be Shift-Backspace. I do not want to try this out now but except for that xemacs-bit nothing happens when I press Alt-Backspace. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Weired Xemacs behaviour
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:58, Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 11:54 +1200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: When I start xemacs in a terminal and type M-Backspace Alt-Backspace (which may or may not be M-Backspace) is normally used to kill the X server when All Else Fails™. Have you got a special X-server setup? One usually has to have the CTRL key pressed as well in order to kill the X-server. As the output of xmodmap shows on my system it seems to be Shift-Backspace. I do not want to try this out now but except for that xemacs-bit nothing happens when I press Alt-Backspace. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Weired Xemacs behaviour
Greetings, When I start xemacs in a terminal and type M-Backspace in the window that appears I get the following output: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) Resource id in failed request: 0x2001c6b Serial number of failed request: 2949 Current serial number in output stream: 2951 X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 25 (X_SendEvent) Resource id in failed request: 0x2001c6b Serial number of failed request: 2950 Current serial number in output stream: 2951 Other than this the key works and deletes the word directly in front of the cursor. If I press M-Backspace thrice in a row xemacs crashes. According to xmodmap -pke M-Backspace does not seem to have any special meaning: keycode 22 = BackSpace Terminate_Server (I have a modified German keyboard, so the keycode might be different) Does anyone know why things are behaving here as they are? Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Quasar
Nick Rout wrote: Add the following line to /etc/make.conf: PORTAGE_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" make that directory: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage download the tar/bzipped file called "quasar portage overlay" from the bug page - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83679 unzip/tar the file so that it ends up with the ebuild having this path: /usr/local/portage/app-office/quasar/quasar-1.4.5.ebuild (I find it easier to do this in a gui like midnight commander) You should then be able to emerge quasar. Thanks, it works. At least the download. It will take a few hours to download as I am downloading KNOPPIX as well. (Last week I spent three days downloading 3.8.2 only to discover now that 3.9 is out). Has anyone tried to use Looking Glass? I found an article on gentoo-wiki.com but it is out of date and does not work for me. I also did not find anything on bugs.gentoo.org. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Quasar
Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 21:32 +1200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: I found a rpm for SuSE. I am downloading that now and will then try to install it into my chrooted SuSE. That might be easier than manually comipling everything. Perhaps you missed the post pointing to the ebuild. I have seen it but which of the files do I have to use and where do I put it? I have once tried to install looking glass which is not in the tree but I could not get it going Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Quasar
I found a rpm for SuSE. I am downloading that now and will then try to install it into my chrooted SuSE. That might be easier than manually comipling everything. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:14, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Where did you get it from? I cannot find it in the portage-tree. I built this outside the portage system. Sources:- ftp://ftp.linuxcanada.com/pub/Quasar/1.4.5/source/quasar-1.4.5_GPL.tgz Documentation:- ftp://ftp.linuxcanada.com/pub/Quasar/1.4.5/manuals/quasar_install-1.4.5.pdf ftp://ftp.linuxcanada.com/pub/Quasar/1.4.5/manuals/quasar_guide-1.4.5.pdf ftp://ftp.linuxcanada.com/pub/Quasar/1.4.5/manuals/quasar_reference-1.4.5.pdf ftp://ftp.linuxcanada.com/pub/Quasar/1.4.5/manuals/quasar_features-1.4.5.pdf Manuals for the Point of Sale non-Free program modules in the same dir. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Quasar
Where did you get it from? I cannot find it in the portage-tree. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:39, Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:29, Barry wrote: Review coming in Tux Issue 3 being emailed today, did you subscribe? Yes I did. The article has piqued my interest sufficiently to download the sources and try it out. It's building satisfactorily. More to come. -- C. S. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Gmail invitation
I only use GMail except for mailing lists and big files (>10Mb). The latter problem might be connected with my being on 56k. Could someone please give me the names of some other free providers? I am collecting mail-adresses. Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:16, Robert Himmelmann wrote: There must be a few more options than GMail. Yes there are but I took the advice and used Gmail. I does seem quite good and it was not too hard to set up Kmail to use the Gmail account, especially when I found my typo. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Gmail invitation
Robert Fisher wrote: On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:40, Steve Holdoway wrote: Should we set up a workshop on 'how to set up your own mail server'? After all, it really isn't that expensive. I have my own mail server but I do not want to encourage our kids and our borders to stay too attached. LTSP serves a great pupose in my environment and Gmail keeps the "moving out" option available. There must be a few more options than GMail. I am using four other freemail providers. All of them are German but there should be some others around. The only one I can think of is hotmail but I think that none of us would use a Micro$oft product if there is anything else around. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: (OT) You gotta love google ads on slashdot
If you don't like ads use Firefox, download the extension adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/) and import the attached settings (Tools -> Extension Manager -> Adblock -> Options -> Adblock Otions -> Import). I don't get any ads on any major site I visit. Nick Rout wrote: Slashdot article about Blender (you know the 3D drawing suite that Caleb showed us a while ago) Google ad? "Kitchen Appliances rated [snip] www.consumer.org.nz" -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" [Adblock] */ad/* */ads/* */banner/* */dat/bgf/* */iframe/* */server/link.asp* *adbureau* *adserv* *adserver* *adtech* *advertising* *atdmt* *banners* *doubleclick* *pagead* http://ad.yieldmanager.com/* http://ads.osdn.com/* http://ads.tuxmagazine.com* http://ar.atwola.com/html/93170742/396881971/aol?SNM=HI&width=728&height=90&target=_blank&TZ=480&CT=I http://as.casalemedia.com/* http://as.casalemedia.com/s?s=55221&u=http%3A//www.newgrounds.com/iframe* http://as1.falkag.de/server/* http://bs*.gmx.net/* http://bs*.gmx.net/70/74/132/20284077/20614?1099206647.00023693 http://contentsearch.de.espotting.com/* http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/images/phpa-gentoo.gif http://images.blogads.com/svtuzlvsp6ijopsh/kuro5hin/3223935/thumb?rev=rev_8 http://images.meetic.fr/img/marketing/* http://img.mybet.com/* http://matrix.mediavantage.de/* http://matrix.mediavantage.de/data/* http://media.fastclick.net/* http://mediamgr.ugo.com/* http://mirror.pointroll.com/PointRoll/Media/default/Microsoft/53462/xbox_jade_160x600_default.gif http://nuads1.nu-1.com/adframe.php* http://rightmedia.net* http://sideshow.directtrack.com/rotator/briggsb/196&keyword= http://sportsbybrooks.com/* http://toshiba.nuads.nu-1.com/* http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/* http://webpdp.gator.com/* http://www.bullz-eye.com/* http://www.collegehumor.com/phpAdsNew/* http://www.gentoo.org/images/phpa-gentoo.gif http://www.heise.de/qc/commerce/* http://www.heise.de/qc/heise/ix/2004/ixkonf_cont/* http://www.heise.de/qc/heise/ix/2004/ixkonf_cont/ix_konferenz_content.gif http://www.logiprint.com/logo/logo.php http://www.newgrounds.com/iframe_gorilla.html http://www.newgrounds.com/iframe_track.html http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/search/banner_imgs/* http://www.ovm-einsundeins.com/heise/137x150.gif https://ads.osdn.com/* https://freemailng1503.web.de/iframe.ng/*
Re: Boot OS on usb-hd
Now the kernel boots (even with bootsplash!) but it cannot mount the root file system /dev/sda2. Normally usb-mass-storage is initialissed very late in the boot process. It comes after mount -a. I also don't know if the necessary drivers are compiled into the SuSE kernel or if they are later loaded as modules. Would it be possible to boot the SuSE kernel with the Gentoo-partition as root file system and then, immidiatly after mounting /dev/sda2 chroot there? I only want to run the SuSE kernel with SuSE X and all other SuSE programs. What is actually booted is not very important. Nick Rout wrote: OK well put your kernel and initrd somewhere on hd0, the initrd will need to set up the usb hard drive before trying to mount root. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Boot OS on usb-hd
Nick Rout wrote: Can grub see your USB drive? (I doubt it) use tab completion at the grub prompt to see what drives grub recognises. type root (hd then the tab key. It will report every disk that grub sees. Only hd0, my main disk, shows up. Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu "Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ..." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
