Re: dvd/cd rom cd-rw on same ide bus
Feigning erudition, Tom Wilson wrote: % Hi all, % % I know this has been a problem in the past but I was wondering if it % still is or not. Having the dvd/cd-rom and the cd-rw being a master % and slave on the secondary bus? I have precisely this set up here: my DVD/CD-ROM is the master on the secondary bus and my CD-W is the slave on the secondary bus. It might create buffer underruns if I do a CD-CD copy, but, otherwise, it works just fine here at KurtWerks. Kurt -- You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
Feigning erudition, Tom Wilson wrote: % Hi all, % % I got me a shiny new PC last week. I am in process of backing up the % data off my old pc to get it ready for the new. % % I was going to install Linux w/ ext3 filesystem on the new pc, the old % one has ext2. Can I restore to the new if it is ext3? Or to I have to % install it as ext2, restore my backups, then convert to ext3? Yes. No. Kurt -- When I said we, officer, I was referring to myself, the four young ladies, and, of course, the goat. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
what's the easiest way to convert the / mount point to xfs? can I just do it with an empty partition + knoppix cd? boot knnoppix, mount / (hda9) to /mnt/tmp backup to empty partition umount / format hda9 into xfs restore data from empty partition usin cp -a edit /etc/fstab reboot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, Tom Wilson wrote: % Hi all, % % I got me a shiny new PC last week. I am in process of backing up the % data off my old pc to get it ready for the new. % % I was going to install Linux w/ ext3 filesystem on the new pc, the old % one has ext2. Can I restore to the new if it is ext3? Or to I have to % install it as ext2, restore my backups, then convert to ext3? Yes. No. Kurt -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org ^ ^ http://beyond.linuxfromscratch.org For starters: http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD for Linux - audio problem
Out of curiosity, what software are you using to burn the DVDs? I am looking into this (for data backup) and can't get a clear feeling for whether standard cdrecord does so. Isn't there a 'pro' or something that one needs for this? Or am I looking in the wrong place? On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:41:31 + (UTC) Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I got the Plextor Combo CDRW/DVD player. I can burn cds in linux and use that fine. I installed MPlayer and compiled my kernel to enable dma. I then figured out how to use hdparm to enable the dma on hdc and still have the thing set to scd0. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCSI vs IDE vs FIREWIRE/USB
Firewire works great. We use an Iomega Peerless (only 20 GB) and it transfers at 15 MB per second. As to USB, you will want USB 2 for similiar speed. The only problem I have had with firewire disks on Linux is getting an sbp2 device driver that loads ok. I have also had trouble if the firewire disk is attached at boot time. Seems a pointer is uninitialized in the firewire release driver release I am using. If you get past that part, the disks do seem to work fine. We use this to move data from vehicles to an office, where the data may be used by any number of OSs. It really works ok. On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:09:36 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the 4 drive limitation of IDE machines quite bothersome. Is there some way, other than scsi, to overcome this limitation in the linux world? Is setting up a scsi system just a matter of installing a scsi adaptor and then plugging things in (along with the appropriate drivers)? Is it worth the extra cost? Are there easier/better alternatives like firewire/usb peripherals? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Digital Image Capture Software for Linux
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:23:02 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I have gone there. It doesn't look too promising. The yahoo mail list for linux digital entusiastists which is referenced on the page hasn't had a message posted to it since August of this year. If it has the same USB interface as a Nikon CoolPix 990, then things are less than obvious. Support is minimal and unstable. I eventually gave up and decided to transfer via a card reader. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, m.w.chang wrote: what's the easiest way to convert the / mount point to xfs? There is none. You can't non-destructively convert to XFS. can I just do it with an empty partition + knoppix cd? boot knnoppix, mount / (hda9) to /mnt/tmp backup to empty partition umount / format hda9 into xfs restore data from empty partition usin cp -a edit /etc/fstab reboot Your kernel needs XFS support or this procedure will go south as soon as you reboot. Once you have a kernel with XFS support, you'll be fine. Read my SxS on XFS for the details. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, Tom Wilson wrote: % Hi all, % % I got me a shiny new PC last week. I am in process of backing up the % data off my old pc to get it ready for the new. % % I was going to install Linux w/ ext3 filesystem on the new pc, the old % one has ext2. Can I restore to the new if it is ext3? Or to I have to % install it as ext2, restore my backups, then convert to ext3? Yes. No. Kurt -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Andrew Mathews wrote: Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, I got me a shiny new PC last week. I am in process of backing up the data off my old pc to get it ready for the new. I was going to install Linux w/ ext3 filesystem on the new pc, the old one has ext2. Can I restore to the new if it is ext3? Or to I have to install it as ext2, restore my backups, then convert to ext3? TIA, You'll have to convert it to XFS first, at which time you'll decide to keep it that way. ;) Indeed. Seriously, you should have no problems copying your files from ext2 to ext3 as 3 is simply 2 with a journal. What distro are you planning on using? Also matters how the data is backed up. But if you're going to go through the time in restoring from backup to a new box, you might as well do it on a reliable filesystem, namely, XFS. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE not displaying panel; erratic
On 12/19/2002 11:02 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: Yes, you can have up to 8 desktops in XFCE. Go to xfce.org and take a look at the screenshots. Also another plus for XFCE, that hasn't yet been mentioned here is that its damn easy to build. There's one tarball, about 4MB in size that has everything in it, and building that tarball as an RPM is easy too. OK, I'm willing to try XFCE again. Is there a RH8 RPM for it (or a SRPM I could use)? None is referenced at xfce.org. I *did* find a Mandrake SRPM at www.rpmfind.net, I believe the RPMs provided at xfce.org are for Mandrake. Is there a SxS for installing XFCE from source? time passes There seems to be one, but it's somewhat dated, http://www.linux-sxs.org/wmxf.html. Perhaps one of you XFCE lovers have notes that could serve as a SxS? Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: After seeng posts here re efforts by the film and entertainment industry pushing for various laws to be passed south of the border, I didn't realize that there were simalar moves being pushed here in Canada. Well I finally realize that Canadian polititions are far mor corrupt than anything possible south of the border. If you doubt that then read the following. http://www.kelownacapnews.com/archive/2002/12/18/stories/7519_full.html?latest_date=2002/12/18 'Central Okanagan'?? :) Anyway, there's actually been talk of passing very similar legislation in the US (like a special tax on every CDR CDRW purchased), so greed has no boundary or nationality. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD for Linux - audio problem
cdrecord on its own is not capable of burning a DVD. This was actually discussed on this list perhaps 6 or 7 weeks back, and i did some Googling and found a few links for Anita Lewis. Might want to check the archives for them. On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Out of curiosity, what software are you using to burn the DVDs? I am looking into this (for data backup) and can't get a clear feeling for whether standard cdrecord does so. Isn't there a 'pro' or something that one needs for this? Or am I looking in the wrong place? On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:41:31 + (UTC) Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I got the Plextor Combo CDRW/DVD player. I can burn cds in linux and use that fine. I installed MPlayer and compiled my kernel to enable dma. I then figured out how to use hdparm to enable the dma on hdc and still have the thing set to scd0. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE not displaying panel; erratic
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: On 12/19/2002 11:02 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: Yes, you can have up to 8 desktops in XFCE. Go to xfce.org and take a look at the screenshots. Also another plus for XFCE, that hasn't yet been mentioned here is that its damn easy to build. There's one tarball, about 4MB in size that has everything in it, and building that tarball as an RPM is easy too. OK, I'm willing to try XFCE again. Is there a RH8 RPM for it (or a SRPM I could use)? None is referenced at xfce.org. I *did* find a Mandrake SRPM at www.rpmfind.net, I believe the RPMs provided at xfce.org are for Mandrake. XFCE is distro agnostic, although many distros do build/provide unofficial RPMs. That said, you can download an official source tarball, RPM or SRPM from the xfce website (just follow the download link). You'll want the 3.8.18 version (4.x is still beta). Rebuilding the SRPM is a cake walk. The only semi-non-standard deps are glib-1.2.x and gtk+-1.2.x, and you'll most likely have them both already if Gnome came with your distro. Is there a SxS for installing XFCE from source? time passes There seems to be one, but it's somewhat dated, http://www.linux-sxs.org/wmxf.html. Perhaps one of you XFCE lovers have notes that could serve as a SxS? Quite honestly there's no need for one: rpm --rebuild xfce-3.8.18.src.rpm After you install the resulting binary RPM, run xfce_setup to make it the default window manager for each user, and xfce_upgrade if you've run a previous version of XFCE on the box before. That's it, you're done. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE not displaying panel; erratic
On 12/20/2002 8:53 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: snip Is there a SxS for installing XFCE from source? time passes There seems to be one, but it's somewhat dated, http://www.linux-sxs.org/wmxf.html. Perhaps one of you XFCE lovers have notes that could serve as a SxS? Quite honestly there's no need for one: rpm --rebuild xfce-3.8.18.src.rpm Well, on RH8, that's be rpmbuild --rebuild yada yada After you install the resulting binary RPM, run xfce_setup to make it the default window manager for each user, and xfce_upgrade if you've run a previous version of XFCE on the box before. That's it, you're done. Sounds like a plan. But I imagine I gotta do something that it'll be a session choice for RH8's gdm, or is that what xfce_setup is suposed to do? Perhaps I'll ask on #redhat if anyone is running XFCE with RH8... Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE not displaying panel; erratic
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: On 12/20/2002 8:53 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: snip Is there a SxS for installing XFCE from source? time passes There seems to be one, but it's somewhat dated, http://www.linux-sxs.org/wmxf.html. Perhaps one of you XFCE lovers have notes that could serve as a SxS? Quite honestly there's no need for one: rpm --rebuild xfce-3.8.18.src.rpm Well, on RH8, that's be rpmbuild --rebuild yada yada Yea, yea, i forgot that Redhat reinvented the wheel again. Sorry. After you install the resulting binary RPM, run xfce_setup to make it the default window manager for each user, and xfce_upgrade if you've run a previous version of XFCE on the box before. That's it, you're done. Sounds like a plan. But I imagine I gotta do something that it'll be a session choice for RH8's gdm, or is that what xfce_setup is suposed to do? Perhaps I'll ask on #redhat if anyone is running XFCE with RH8... xfce_setup makes it the default in gdm for each user who runs xfce_setup. BTW, there is a very active XFCE mailing list (which several of this list's members are on, including me). -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD for Linux - audio problem
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:41:07 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord on its own is not capable of burning a DVD. This was actually discussed on this list perhaps 6 or 7 weeks back, and i did some Googling and found a few links for Anita Lewis. Might want to check the archives for them. How odd. I do read the postings. I will check the archives, as a google for Linux and DVD did not satisfy my inate curiosity when I tried a while back. Off to the archives... -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On Friday 20 December 2002 02:34, ronnie gauthier wrote: I read it. Seems to me that at what they are charging as a tax to be given as compensation to recording artists... would allow you to record *any* music to media that was taxed, no matter the source. On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:18:23 -0800 - Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: It seems there is no end to greed! After seeng posts here re efforts by the film and entertainment industry pushing for various laws to be passed south of the border, I didn't realize that there were simalar moves being pushed here in Canada. Well I finally realize that Canadian polititions are far mor corrupt than anything possible south of the border. If you doubt that then read the following. There's still KaZaa. The company who owns it is incorporated on some obscure island in the Pacific that doesn't have copyright laws and the two elusive guys who have the source code for it have disappeared in Europe somewhere where even the record company's legal sharks or American courts can find them. Not that it would do the greed bags any good. KaZaA, unlike Napster recides on the users computer not a central computer server system. So, there's no way to shut it down except by breaking into your computer and erasing the music files. Something has authorized the entertainment to do, even if it does violate the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. The only drawback with KaZaA, other than the vulnerability of swapping files, is that there is no Linux version of it. The thing is designed for MicroGreed, but if you run a dual boot system with MS and one of the newer Linux OSs like Mandrake 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 you can access the music files on the MS partition with the bundled MP3 players like xxms. Who knows maybe KaZaA's developers willcome up with a Linux version. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Happy Holidays!!!!!!
Happy holidays, everybody! My wife, Rene, and I are going to Bakersfield to spend Christmas with our oldest grand child, Matt. Won't be back to wish everybody Happy Holidays 'til they're over. Bob ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
The support for it isn't perfect, but Kazaa Lite runs well enough under Wine to at least let you download a few songs (see winehq's application databvase for instructions) David Aikema - Original Message - From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:29 am Subject: Re: It seems there is no end to greed! The only drawback with KaZaA, other than the vulnerability of swapping files, is that there is no Linux version of it. The thing is designed for MicroGreed, but if you run a dual boot system with MS and one of the newer Linux OSs like Mandrake 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 you can access the music files on the MS partition with the bundled MP3 players like xxms. Who knows maybe KaZaA's developers willcome up with a Linux version. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
Leon A. Goldstein wrote: C. M. Reinher wrote: This sounds more like a M$ DOS/Windows problem, than a Linux problem, but a couple of questions come to mind: 1) What tool did you use to set up the partitions? If you used anything other than a M$ DOS or Windows utility (eg. fdisk), that might be the cause of your problem. 2) Have you tried restoring the master boot record with fdisk booting DOS natively, rather than through GRUB? What happens then? The HD was partitioned with FDISK as provided with Novell DOS 7 (aka DR-DOS). The drive boots normally when connected as master, using its own bootloader. GRUB is not in the MBR of this drive; it is a slave to another drive, wherein GRUB is installed. I tried converting the three logical partitions to primary, using Partition Magic 6. This only resulted with the same number of superfluous partitions as before, but the sequencing was changed. I restored the partitions back to logical. Since the drive performs normally booting from its own DOS bootloader, and only goes haywire when booted from GRUB, I'd consider this a GRUB/Linux issue. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera Linux 2.4 System 5WV271 Yes no. Before you blame your problems on Linux or Grub you should know that there are no universal standards governing the way partitions are defined and managed. Different operating systems have different ways of doing it. I can't remember where I read it, but a valuable bit of advice is to use _only_ the partition tools provided with your operating system. Using a partitioning tool from DR-DOS, to creat partitions, managed by a third party product to be used for a M$ operating system booted by a Linux boot loader ... See where this is going? Before going any further I stongly recommend some midnight reading from the Linux Documentation Project: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSPARTITIONS Two How-To's in particular you should read: Filesystems-HOWTO: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO.html Partition: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition/index.html Multiboot-with-GRUB: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html Cheers! cmr -- Registered Linux User #241964 Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. -- Samwise Gamgee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
Lee wrote: On Friday 20 December 2002 02:34, ronnie gauthier wrote: I read it. Seems to me that at what they are charging as a tax to be given as compensation to recording artists... would allow you to record *any* music to media that was taxed, no matter the source. There's still KaZaa. The company who owns it is incorporated on some obscure island in the Pacific that doesn't have copyright laws and the two elusive guys who have the source code for it have disappeared in Europe somewhere where even the record company's legal sharks or American courts can find them. Not that it would do the greed bags any good. KaZaA, unlike Napster recides on the users computer not a central computer server system. So, there's no way to shut it down except by breaking into your computer and erasing the music files. Something has authorized the entertainment to do, even if it does violate the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. The only drawback with KaZaA, other than the vulnerability of swapping files, is that there is no Linux version of it. The thing is designed for MicroGreed, but if you run a dual boot system with MS and one of the newer Linux OSs like Mandrake 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 you can access the music files on the MS partition with the bundled MP3 players like xxms. Who knows maybe KaZaA's developers willcome up with a Linux version. Lee Once this crap becomes a reality, I'll be in the news more often than not. I'll be openly crossing the border to purchase my recording media and I'll make damb sure that they know. I outright refuse to obey an illigal law nor do I have any intention of paying an illigal tarif. Hell, as it stand the federal government gets one third of my paycheck , 48% of my money everytime I put gas in my truck and the provincial/federal gets another 14.5% everytime I buy something. On top of all that, the user fees that underlie such basics as owning/renting a home, reduces my income even more. Now the same money grabbing b@#$ards expect me to subsidize a multi billion dollar industry. I think not! -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
Net Llama! wrote: 'Central Okanagan'?? :) Yup (Kelowna) Westbank as the name implies lies on the westside of Okanagan lake across from Kelowna. Heck we are just a hop from the US border. Won't take much to hop over to pick up recording mediaG -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:32:31 -0500 (EST) begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Andrew Mathews wrote: Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, I got me a shiny new PC last week. I am in process of backing up the data off my old pc to get it ready for the new. I was going to install Linux w/ ext3 filesystem on the new pc, the old one has ext2. Can I restore to the new if it is ext3? Or to I have to install it as ext2, restore my backups, then convert to ext3? TIA, You'll have to convert it to XFS first, at which time you'll decide to keep it that way. ;) Indeed. Seriously, you should have no problems copying your files from ext2 to ext3 as 3 is simply 2 with a journal. What distro are you planning on using? Also matters how the data is backed up. But if you're going to go through the time in restoring from backup to a new box, you might as well do it on a reliable filesystem, namely, XFS. Well, I just went through my first major XFS problem. Let me just say XFS performed beautifully. If it were ext2, I'd have been rebuilding the system. Seems some morons from the power company decided to replace main lines in a building without telling anyone. Well, the resulting spikes fried a monitor and scrambled the Linux system. It wouldn't boot (lots of errors about not being able to run /sbin/getty, etc.). Booted into Knoppix and tried to mount the partition -- it froze. Rebooted, ran xfs_check. What a mess, but it fixed a lot of stuff. Mounted the partition (the journal played and restored things just fine). umounted the partition and ran xfs_repair. Lots more fixing. Rebooted and things seem to be even better than before (if that's possible). XFS came through with flying colors. Not sure any others (and definitely not ext2) would have. BTW, all the above took less than 5 minutes including booting into Knoppix twice. The partition was 6Gb. That's fast. Ciao, David A. Bandel - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+A0hu3uVcotqGMQcRApI/AKDjyBy9mK7yQL98mqiUMTfglRr7HgCeI/OI LIqI4aQqyhSwGJzvFoMqw1Y= =3SGs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
XFS on 2.4.20 kernel?
Lonni: I am reading the SXS on migrating to XFS, and it notes that it will work with kernel versions up to 2.4.18. Working with 2.4.20, would I be safely assured that I could migrate such a system over to this kernel? Scott ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: Well, I just went through my first major XFS problem. Let me just say XFS performed beautifully. If it were ext2, I'd have been rebuilding the system. Seems some morons from the power company decided to replace main lines in a building without telling anyone. Well, the resulting spikes fried a monitor and scrambled the Linux system. It wouldn't boot (lots of errors about not being able to run /sbin/getty, etc.). Booted into Knoppix and tried to mount the partition -- it froze. Rebooted, ran xfs_check. What a mess, but it fixed a lot of stuff. Mounted the partition (the journal played and restored things just fine). umounted the partition and ran xfs_repair. Lots more fixing. Rebooted and things seem to be even better than before (if that's possible). XFS came through with flying colors. Not sure any others (and definitely not ext2) would have. BTW, all the above took less than 5 minutes including booting into Knoppix twice. The partition was 6Gb. That's fast. I'm actually kinda surprised that you had to go through that much trouble. Whenever i've done 'sudden power loss' simulations with my XFS boxes, they've come back up without any manual intervention. Was this box under a heavy load at the time of the outage? Which kernel and version of XFS are you running? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: XFS on 2.4.20 kernel?
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Bonez wrote: Lonni: I am reading the SXS on migrating to XFS, and it notes that it will work with kernel versions up to 2.4.18. Working with 2.4.20, would I be safely assured that I could migrate such a system over to this kernel? Oh, i guess i need to update that. It will work with all versions up to including 2.4.20. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:13:00 -0500 (EST) begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: Well, I just went through my first major XFS problem. Let me just say XFS performed beautifully. If it were ext2, I'd have been rebuilding the system. Seems some morons from the power company decided to replace main lines in a building without telling anyone. Well, the resulting spikes fried a monitor and scrambled the Linux system. It wouldn't boot (lots of errors about not being able to run /sbin/getty, etc.). Booted into Knoppix and tried to mount the partition -- it froze. Rebooted, ran xfs_check. What a mess, but it fixed a lot of stuff. Mounted the partition (the journal played and restored things just fine). umounted the partition and ran xfs_repair. Lots more fixing. Rebooted and things seem to be even better than before (if that's possible). XFS came through with flying colors. Not sure any others (and definitely not ext2) would have. BTW, all the above took less than 5 minutes including booting into Knoppix twice. The partition was 6Gb. That's fast. I'm actually kinda surprised that you had to go through that much trouble. Whenever i've done 'sudden power loss' simulations with my XFS boxes, they've come back up without any manual intervention. Was this box under a heavy load at the time of the outage? Which kernel and version of XFS are you running? Lonnie, this was no sudden power loss, and this box was under a fairly heavy load at the time. Note that the power spike that fried the monitor ran through the UPS the box was connected to (the monitor is usually off, but was on at this particular time and connected to the same UPS the system was). That was one helluva spike -- beat the clamping time of the UPS with a fast enough, high enough spike to fry a monitor (fly-back transformer's dead). I'm surprised the system survived, although it does have a fairly heavy-duty power supply. But that kind of abuse is liable to scramble any file system. kernel 2.4.18-xfs and running the latest (when installed and apparently still the latest) patch and tools -- version 2.0.x of each. Ciao, David A. Bandel - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+A1Ox3uVcotqGMQcRAiWCAJ9u0UCDp3+Ku3KTsq/9+aBJgZSTdgCfUxjO aHDlTvuiOyV2mZ/HdamEbmc= =HJQW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: kernel 2.4.18-xfs and running the latest (when installed and apparently still the latest) patch and tools -- version 2.0.x of each. That's the latest official release, but its not the latest stable release. See: ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/cmd_rpms/SRPMS/ Also, 2.4.20 has an applicable patchset available which i've been using without a single problem. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On December 20, 2002 08:49 am, Ted Ozolins wrote: border. Won't take much to hop over to pick up recording mediaG You know, that might actually be legal. The following page (http://www.cpcc.ca/english/collPayment.htm - the people who administer this crap) notes that liability to pay the levy is triggered by first sale of the media in Canada. Of course, IANAL so my words should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm about a 15 minute drive from the Canada/US border. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
roger that. I wanted to take the chance to make use of the knoopix 3.1 beta... can I just do it with an empty partition + knoppix cd? boot knnoppix, mount / (hda9) to /mnt/tmp backup to empty partition umount / format hda9 into xfs restore data from empty partition usin cp -a edit /etc/fstab reboot Your kernel needs XFS support or this procedure will go south as soon as you reboot. Once you have a kernel with XFS support, you'll be fine. Read my SxS on XFS for the details. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.20 ^ ^5:30am up 19 days, 16:16, 1 user, load average: 1.28, 1.34, 1.19 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
C M Reinehr wrote: Yes no. Before you blame your problems on Linux or Grub you should know that there are no universal standards governing the way partitions are defined and managed. Different operating systems have different ways of doing it. I can't remember where I read it, but a valuable bit of advice is to use _only_ the partition tools provided with your operating system. Using a partitioning tool from DR-DOS, to creat partitions, managed by a third party product to be used for a M$ operating system booted by a Linux boot loader ... See where this is going? Before going any further I stongly recommend some midnight reading from the Linux Documentation Project: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSPARTITIONS The documentation presumes only one DOS partition. I guess it is MY fault for having the temerity to try running a multi-partition DOS HD slaved to a Linux-booted HD. The only thing GRUB is doing is telling the BIOS that the slave is the master, so boot it from its MBR. This does not explain why the partitions are duplicated. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: I guess it is MY fault for having the temerity to try running a multi-partition DOS HD slaved to a Linux-booted HD. The only thing GRUB is doing is telling the BIOS that the slave is the master, so boot it from its MBR. This does not explain why the partitions are duplicated. Cause DOS is too stupid to know how to interpet the partition table correctly? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:37:48AM -0500, Net Llama! wrote: .. Anyway, there's actually been talk of passing very similar legislation in the US (like a special tax on every CDR CDRW purchased), so greed has no boundary or nationality. ``Government'' in our so-called Democracies consists of politicians gaining power by appealing to special interests who think they can benefit at somebody else's expense through the force of government (the quote below is not random this time :-). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Freedom from prices is freedom from responsibility. You can simply pass laws, using the magic wand of government to satisfy your own desires at unspecified costs to be paid by others.'' -- Thomas Sowell Aug 2000 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dvd/cd rom cd-rw on same ide bus
On Friday 20 December 2002 03:48 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: [snip] I have precisely this set up here: my DVD/CD-ROM is the master on the secondary bus and my CD-W is the slave on the secondary bus. It might create buffer underruns if I do a CD-CD copy, but, otherwise, it works just fine here at KurtWerks. Kurt Great. I though I remembered hearing something that was a problem but never paid much attention to it since I never had a burner, musta been the occasional underrun. Much thanks Kurt, I appreciate the input. Thanks. -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux User #199331 Weaseling out of stuff is what separates us from the rest of the animals.except the weasels. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Friday 20 December 2002 12:15 am, Andrew Mathews's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: You'll have to convert it to XFS first, at which time you'll decide to keep it that way. ;) I had considered that. This isn't a server or highend workstation or anything so I decided to go with what came out of the box. Laziness I suppose. :-) Seriously, you should have no problems copying your files from ext2 to ext3 as 3 is simply 2 with a journal. What distro are you planning on using? Redhat 7.3 -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux User #199331 Weaseling out of stuff is what separates us from the rest of the animals.except the weasels. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partition Schizophrenia Booting DOS with GRUB
Net Llama! wrote On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > I guess it is MY fault for having the temerity to try running a > multi-partition DOS HD slaved to a Linux-booted HD. > The only thing GRUB is doing is telling the BIOS that the slave is the > master, so boot it from its MBR. > This does not explain why the partitions are duplicated. Cause DOS is too stupid to know how to interpet the partition table correctly? Could be, but the question is - how does smart DOS, that boots perfectly as a master, suddenly become stupid when it is slaved? I can expect weird things with DOS sharing a hard drive with other OS's, but this is a separate drive, with DOS bootloader in its MBR. It's only association to the master is the menu.lst. There are no FAT partitions on the other drive to confuse it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271
Re: XFS on 2.4.20 kernel?
Feigning erudition, Bonez wrote: % Lonni: % % I am reading the SXS on migrating to XFS, and it notes that it will work with % kernel versions up to 2.4.18. Working with 2.4.20, would I be safely assured % that I could migrate such a system over to this kernel? There are patches available for 2.4.20-rc3. That's the latest of which I'm aware, but something newer may be available. I'd check http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ for details. Kurt -- Year, n.: A period of three hundred and sixty-five disappointments. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
Joel Hammer wrote: Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border? Not really, There are places that are over 12 to 14 hours steady driving just to get close.:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
from Joel Hammer: Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border? Most Canadians are, but most of Canada isn't. :-) R -- http://www.quen.net Fix reason firmly in her seat and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. --Thomas Jefferson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Tom Wilson wrote: On Friday 20 December 2002 12:15 am, Andrew Mathews's voice rose above the ones in my head and declared: You'll have to convert it to XFS first, at which time you'll decide to keep it that way. ;) I had considered that. This isn't a server or highend workstation or anything so I decided to go with what came out of the box. Laziness I suppose. :-) XFS isn't just for servers. I use it on all of my workstations. Trust me, the benefits are worth it. Seriously, you should have no problems copying your files from ext2 to ext3 as 3 is simply 2 with a journal. What distro are you planning on using? Redhat 7.3 So that's perfect, you could have used the RH-7.3 XFS images to get a native XFS kernel filesystem. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
Tom Wilson wrote: snip I had considered that. This isn't a server or highend workstation or anything so I decided to go with what came out of the box. Laziness I suppose. :-) snip If you have the bandwidth then grab the installer image at ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/latest/installer/installer/i386/RH7.3-SGI-XFS-1.1.iso It's *so* much better than the ext_ filesystems in almost every aspect, specifically the security of the data. Recovery time from a hard reset is usually 1-2 seconds. Seriously. It takes a lot less time to do it during the install rather than converting it later. What distro are you planning on using? Redhat 7.3 If you can't grab the image contact me offline. I can burn one for you for the price of the blank disc and postage if you so desire. (or anybody else for that matter) I also have the RedHat 8.0 image too. -- Andrew Mathews --- 6:25pm up 5 days, 11:32, 8 users, load average: 4.46, 4.29, 4.15 --- True leadership is the art of changing a group from what it is to what it ought to be. -- Virginia Allan ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Knoppix: Any caveats?
I am downloading Knoppix right now and will try to burn it and run it am Morgan, or some such (pardon my German). It seems very straight forward from the web site. Are there any gotcha's of which I should be aware? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Friday 20 December 2002 20:45 pm, Net Llama! wrote: XFS isn't just for servers. I use it on all of my workstations. Trust me, the benefits are worth it. Is there a SxS for XFS? Or at least a list of what patches to grab? Sounds like I'd have to build a new kernel which isn't a problem except for getting the right patches. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/20/02 21:23 + ++ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
XFS Build Problems
Okay, you XFS fans, here's your chance to win a convert. Well, I'm already a true believer, but just now, I'm trying to install it. Applying the patches and building and boot the kernel went off without a hitch. The next step is to install the various supporting programs. xfsprogs built and installed without any problems, as did the attr stuff, but the acl package quits in the middle of configuration: [luther:/tmp/acl-2.1.1]$ ./configure --prefix=/usr .. checking attr/xattr.h usability... no checking attr/xattr.h presence... no checking for attr/xattr.h... no FATAL ERROR: attr/xattr.h does not exist. acl cannot be built without the attr-devel package. make: *** [configure] Error 1 Got any hints? Kurt -- In Denver it is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
Feigning erudition, Bruce Marshall wrote: % On Friday 20 December 2002 20:45 pm, Net Llama! wrote: % XFS isn't just for servers. I use it on all of my workstations. % Trust me, the benefits are worth it. % % Is there a SxS for XFS? Or at least a list of what patches to grab? FILESYSTEMS-XFS % Sounds like I'd have to build a new kernel which isn't a problem except % for getting the right patches. Easy as pie. Kurt -- The qotc (quote of the con) was Liz's: My brain is paged out to my liver ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Monitor Blanking
How do I keep the monitor from blanking both in X and the command line? I think I have X figured out using Option DPMS NO in the XF86Config-4 file. However, when running at level 3 the monitor blanks after some time period and i have to hit a key (usually shift) to get the display unblanked. Where do I turn this off at. It's not the monitor as I've disabled that in the monitor's setup. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:Knoppix: Any caveats?
Joel Hammer wrote: I am downloading Knoppix right now and will try to burn it and run it am Morgan, or some such (pardon my German). It seems very straight forward from the web site. Are there any gotcha's of which I should be aware? Thanks, Joel When the initial screen appears, press F2 . You can then type in start options: English (lang=us) wheelmouse, display and some other options. With a fast CDROM you'll hardly notice the difference. Viel Spass! -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian Linux System 5WV271
Re: Monitor Blanking
Does you bios have something to do with this? (Just guessing.) Joel On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:08:43PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How do I keep the monitor from blanking both in X and the command line? I think I have X figured out using Option DPMS NO in the XF86Config-4 file. However, when running at level 3 the monitor blanks after some time period and i have to hit a key (usually shift) to get the display unblanked. Where do I turn this off at. It's not the monitor as I've disabled that in the monitor's setup. Thanks. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: XFS Build Problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, you XFS fans, here's your chance to win a convert. Well, I'm already a true believer, but just now, I'm trying to install it. Applying the patches and building and boot the kernel went off without a hitch. The next step is to install the various supporting programs. xfsprogs built and installed without any problems, as did the attr stuff, but the acl package quits in the middle of configuration: [luther:/tmp/acl-2.1.1]$ ./configure --prefix=/usr .. checking attr/xattr.h usability... no checking attr/xattr.h presence... no checking for attr/xattr.h... no FATAL ERROR: attr/xattr.h does not exist. acl cannot be built without the attr-devel package. make: *** [configure] Error 1 Got any hints? Kurt Didja install the libattr-devel package? ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/cmd_rpms/i386/libattr-devel-2.1.1-0.i386.rpm should be the correct version for your acl package. -- Andrew Mathews --- 8:25pm up 5 days, 13:32, 8 users, load average: 4.13, 4.42, 4.49 --- My uncle was the town drunk -- and we lived in Chicago. -- George Gobel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2-ext3
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Friday 20 December 2002 20:45 pm, Net Llama! wrote: XFS isn't just for servers. I use it on all of my workstations. Trust me, the benefits are worth it. Is there a SxS for XFS? Or at least a list of what patches to grab? Yes, i wrote the SxS for XFS. Sounds like I'd have to build a new kernel which isn't a problem except for getting the right patches. Yes, you'd need to patch a kernel to get XFS support, unless you're doing a fresh install. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
APM vs ACPI
What is the difference in APM vs ACPI for power management? Are they two exclusive methods of controling shutdown, etc. or is ACPI an advanced version of APM? When I build a kernel can I specify both or do I choose one? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Knoppix: Any caveats?
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:24:44 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am downloading Knoppix right now and will try to burn it and run it am Morgan, or some such (pardon my German). It seems very straight forward from the web site. Are there any gotcha's of which I should be aware? Yes... If you use it for recovery purposes in a machine that has only one cdrom drive and your updates, fix-its, patches or tools is on cdr... you won't be able to use your cdr as once Knoppix boots, you cannot umount the drive. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 11:21pm up 28 days, 1:02, 10 users, load average: 0.67, 0.75, 0.79 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 23:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: What is the difference in APM vs ACPI for power management? Are they two exclusive methods of controling shutdown, etc. or is ACPI an advanced version of APM? When I build a kernel can I specify both or do I choose one? Well, here is the difference between the two (At least as I understand it): APM is a a BIOS-based scheme of system power management. It provides CPU and device power management and uses device activity timeouts to determine when to transition devices to low power states. However, APM falls short: 1.) Every BIOS has its own power management scheme. There is no consistancy between manufacturers. Each BIOS developer must refine and maintain their own APM BIOS code and functionality. 2.) The reason for a suspend is never known. 3.) The BIOS is unaware what the user is doing. Ultimately, the BIOS makes a mess of everything. 4.) The BIOS knows nothing about USB devices, add-in cards and IEEE 1394 devices. ACPI was developed to overcome the deficiencies in APM. ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) is an open industry specification. ACPI evolves the existing collection of power management BIOS code, Advanced Power Management (APM) application programming interfaces (APIs, PNPBIOS APIs, Multiprocessor Specification (MPS) tables and so on into a well-defined power management and configuration interface specification. The specification enables new power management technology to evolve independently in operating systems and hardware while ensuring that they continue to work together. Unlike APM, ACPI allows the Operating System (instead of the BIOS) to control Power Management (OSPM). The support code provided by the BIOS is not written in the native assembly language of the platform but in AML (ACPI Machine Language). The BIOS does not determine the policies or time-outs for power management or resource management. There are 4 device states under APM: Enabled, Standby, Suspend and Off. ACPI's device states are extended, with 4 major global states: Working (S0), Sleeping (S1-S3), Soft-Off (S4), and Mechanical-Off (S5). Sleeping is further broken down into 3 substates.The ACPI BIOS tables define what these states mean for individual devices, and the operating system determines when to move a device, or even the entire system, from one state to another. The ACPI-compatible OS mainly acts as a swap manager that swap the computer to different state based on the information collected. A transition from one state to another is first started with the OSPM system code which instructs the OS kernel for the specific state transition. After the kernel receives the instruction, it asks the appropriate device driver to perform the operation. Response from the operation will be passed back to the OSPM from the kernel. This process will proceed in hierarchical order until all devices and components reach a specified state. There is more, but the above info is probably enough... Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Monitor Blanking
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % How do I keep the monitor from blanking both in X and the command line? I % think I have X figured out using Option DPMS NO in the XF86Config-4 % file. However, when running at level 3 the monitor blanks after some time % period and i have to hit a key (usually shift) to get the display % unblanked. Where do I turn this off at. It's not the monitor as I've % disabled that in the monitor's setup. setterm -blank 0 Kurt -- Fresco's Discovery: If you knew what you were doing you'd probably be bored. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
On 20 Dec 2002 23:50:47 -0500 Marvin Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 23:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: What is the difference in APM vs ACPI for power management? Are they two exclusive methods of controling shutdown, etc. or is ACPI an advanced version of APM? When I build a kernel can I specify both or do I choose one? Well, here is the difference between the two (At least as I understand it): [ excellent stuff snipped ] Sounds like an excellent article to put in bedtime reading on the SxS. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Gentoo 1.4 sytem ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Cups help?
I've got two systems running CUPS and I'm having trouble getting them to share a printer. Print server: RH7.3, printer is on parallel:/dev/lp0, called HPLJ4M, configured as HP LaserJet 4M, Foomatic + Postscript (because that's what it is). It works fine. CUPS: RedHat RPM, v 1.1.14 NICs: eth0) DSL connection eth1) internal LAN, 192.168.x.146 I think I have CUPS listening on both NICs, port 631 (ipp, right?). The CUPS log files confirm this. Print client: COL 3.1.1 WS. I have tried configuring in several ways, most recently as ipp://192.168.x.146:631/ipp/HPLJ4M, and notice that this URI is changed by replacing ipp: with http: in the admin display, although my input is the default the next time through 'modify'. It is reported as busy... CUPS: Caldera RPM, v 1.1.10-3 NICS: eth0) internal LAN, 192.168.x.150 Problem: I cannot find a configuration on the client that seems to connect to the server. I see nothing in the logs about attempts, but I may not know where to look. The client usually reports Printer is busy; will retry in 10 seconds. The printer is idle, and I see no print jobs on the server. Anybody with a clue? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
