Re: Which file system am I using?
OK, mount shows that my original disk is reiserfs. My new partition is ext2, whichI just created with fdisk. There is no choice for reiserfs or ext3 with fdisk. Does one simple run mkfs to get the file system of choice? Joel How can I get On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:59:47PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: Consuming 0.3K bytes, Joel Hammer blathered: What command can I issue to see what file system I am running on a linux partition? mount usually works for me: $ mount /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (r0) /dev/hdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb2 on /archive type ext3 (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) proc on /proc type proc (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) 192.168.0.1:/var/spool/mail on /var/spool/mail type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.1) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Which file system am I using?
What command can I issue to see what file system I am running on a linux partition? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sendmail won't start
The old script was called mta. What if you try that instead? Or, just write your own script. The startup scripts are complicated only because they need to do a lot of figuring out where things are, etc. Since you know where things are, a startup script customized for your machine might be very simple. Joel On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:35:33PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: I'm trying to do something that is admittedly a bit foolish. I'm trying to get the sendmail RPM from Redhat-7.3 working on my ancient Caldera box. There's really not much Caldera left in it, as I've been upgrading it piecemeal to assorted Redhat RPMs for a while now, but it was last an amalgam of COL-2.4 3.1. At any rate, I got sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 RPM installed, and running the sendmail binary manually does work. Its just the initscript that came with it that fails to work. If i run /etc/init.d/sendmail start i get: Starting sendmail: Usage: daemon program I can start sendmail manually with sendmail -bd -q1h, and it backgrounds itself just fine, so its something wonky in the initscript. Anyone have any suggestions on what might be wrong here? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:25pm up 1 day, 1:49, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problems printing out PDF files
My daughter is printing out pdf applications for grad school. We get various errors with acroread, but basically some documents don't print. Here is one type of error. If I print the document to a file, here is what I get with gv. Error: /invalidfont in -dict- Operand stack: ALBLUO+ArialNarrow-Identity-H --dict:8/10(L)-- Font ALBLUO+ArialNarrow-Identity-H --dict:8/10(L)-- ALBLUO+ArialNarrow-Identity-H Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 %3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop %.runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %%stopped_push --nostringval-- 3 8 %oparray_pop 3 8 %%oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 7 %9 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- 7 9 %oparray_pop %--nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1061/1123(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:73/200(L)-- --dict:45/89(L)-- --dict:76/160(ro)(L)-- --dict:63/78(ro)(L)-- --dict:8/25(L)-- --dict:27/35(ro)(L)-- --dict:17/17(ro)(G)-- Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: 2 GNU Ghostscript 7.07: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 However, if I use pdf2ps to convert the pdf file to postscript, I get valid postscript which I can print with gv. I guess the problem is acroread is using a font I don't have to print these files even though they display properly in X. So, my questions: What is the difference between acroread and gs (-sDEVICE=pswrite) in font handling during printing? Is there someway to make acroread use the same fonts that gs does? BTW, I have those Bitstream delux fonts installed. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SO 7: importing postscript
Insert graphic Joel On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:56:10AM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:52:23 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I do this same sort of thing with convert. (It's part of the imagemagick package.) convert file.ps file.jpg and then import into SO. Works fine and can be scripted. But, I would really like to know why these eps files look fine in gv but so bad in SO. Joel On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: gs is used by ps2epsi. Is there a way to tweak gs to make things look better when imported into SO ? As I've said in another thread (and keep saying), my all time favourite in handling ps/pdf stuff is GSview (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/), a frontend to gs. You may open your.ps in GSview, go to file|convert and get access to a variety of output devices, e. g. 'jpeggray' which outputs your.jpg in your resulution of choice, and this you may import into OO. It all takes two or three mouse clicks and a few seconds. I thought to try this myself, but I'm stumped. How are you importing a .ps file under OO? I only get it to open as the actual PS code (text version). -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SO 7: importing postscript
I tried to import some postscript files (GNUplots) into SO 7. I first converted them to epsi with ps2espi. They display fine in gv but look lousy in SO. If converted from ps to jpg, they look fine in SO when imported. gs is used by ps2epsi. Is there a way to tweak gs to make things look better when imported into SO ? Thanks, Joel BTW, exporting to PDF with SO 7 is just really, really nice. Now, if SO could just have a user interface for text editing that emulated vi(m), they just might have something! Don't laugh, vi(m) is the best way I know to do text editing. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SO 7: importing postscript
Well, I do this same sort of thing with convert. (It's part of the imagemagick package.) convert file.ps file.jpg and then import into SO. Works fine and can be scripted. But, I would really like to know why these eps files look fine in gv but so bad in SO. Joel On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: gs is used by ps2epsi. Is there a way to tweak gs to make things look better when imported into SO ? As I've said in another thread (and keep saying), my all time favourite in handling ps/pdf stuff is GSview (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/), a frontend to gs. You may open your.ps in GSview, go to file|convert and get access to a variety of output devices, e. g. 'jpeggray' which outputs your.jpg in your resulution of choice, and this you may import into OO. It all takes two or three mouse clicks and a few seconds. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 reviewed in Wall Street Journal
to a Microsoft user. Version 7 has a few nice added file features, like saving any file in Adobe's PDF format, which Microsoft Office can't, and saving presentations as Macromedia Flash files, common on the Web. But as I said last year, this program is mainly for light users preparing basic documents who either can't afford Office, or hate Microsoft so much they'll live with some complexity and limitations. On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:12:44PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I can't link to it because it is from Thurs and it requires a subscription. But: The WSJ technology guy reviewed SO 7. He said the following: SO 7 is much better then SO 6 for importing all types of MS Office documents, including excel and powerpoint as well as word. He was very impressed by how well things imported. The big problem, from his point of view, is that exporting documents to MS Office is much less well developed. So, he wouldn't recommend it for anybody who has to exchange documents with MS Office. He pointed out that SO, but not MS Office, can export to PDF. The installation of SO seems much easier than before. (I installed my copy with one mouse click.) He noted that page numbering and some other items were more difficult in SO than MS. He also noted that MS is stealthily reducing the price of its consumer software. You can buy an academic copy, which can be installed up to three times, at stores, and have only the weakest link to a full time student, or none. This runs about $150 dollars. So, the pricing differential is getting much less. This tends to support my contention that the biggest beneficiaries of the linux movement will be current MS users who don't switch to linux. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
StarOffice 7 reviewed in Wall Street Journal
I can't link to it because it is from Thurs and it requires a subscription. But: The WSJ technology guy reviewed SO 7. He said the following: SO 7 is much better then SO 6 for importing all types of MS Office documents, including excel and powerpoint as well as word. He was very impressed by how well things imported. The big problem, from his point of view, is that exporting documents to MS Office is much less well developed. So, he wouldn't recommend it for anybody who has to exchange documents with MS Office. He pointed out that SO, but not MS Office, can export to PDF. The installation of SO seems much easier than before. (I installed my copy with one mouse click.) He noted that page numbering and some other items were more difficult in SO than MS. He also noted that MS is stealthily reducing the price of its consumer software. You can buy an academic copy, which can be installed up to three times, at stores, and have only the weakest link to a full time student, or none. This runs about $150 dollars. So, the pricing differential is getting much less. This tends to support my contention that the biggest beneficiaries of the linux movement will be current MS users who don't switch to linux. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Matrix III
Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III is at least 2x as good as Matrix II. The reviewers must like mindless, repetitive kung fu and must not like interesting dialogue that probes the meaning of the human experience, heavily interlaced with the usual astounding special effects. There was even some drama in this one. There wasn't much kung fu, either, must to my relief. Oh yea, it would really have been great if Keanu Reeves had pretended to act, but, I guess wishing for Sean Connery in every scene spoils some of the fun. Disclaimer I said this was OT, didn't I ?/disclaimer Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
I just tried to time the starts on three machines. The older version of Star Office (6.0) let me count to 15 (one one thousand, two one thousand, etc) before it was started on a 1 gig duron with 256meg. SO 5.2 on an .8 gig Athlon and 770 megs took so long I thought it wasn't going to start (got to over 20 counting before I gave up counting, but it finally started, maybe in 25 secs.) On a 1 gig duron with 650megs SO 7.0 started up by the time I got to 5. So, startup time is reduced by 66% in my tests, which I consider official and final. I can't compare SO 6 and SO 7 on the same machine because SO 7 removed SO 6 when it was installed. Joel On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:10:06AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 4:27 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. I get the same results here on an Athlon 800mhz with SCSI drives... And I don't think it really is starting any faster than StarOffice 6.0 did. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/12/03 07:08 + ++ Hansen's Library Axiom: The closest library doesn't have the material you need. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
Yes, I have also found another use for windows. Politics. I have gotten, by default, the job of getting us up and going with digital photography in our pathology department. You have to experience it to believe it, but our IS department is trying to make my life as difficult as possible because I bought a computer from the digital camera company, not through IS. Our IS steals software and hardware from people who buy through them and not straight from the vendor. Seriously. And, of course, IS bids for hardware are slow and over priced. If I suggested linux, they would use that against me for sure and fight like tooth and nail all the way. We are talking seriously computer impaired but politically savvy people. They have to be politically savvy because they keep their jobs despite knowing nothing about computers. Then, there is the job of getting colleagues to use the computer. Since these are busy people who don't want to learn anything about computers, and they sort blame me for the digital stuff (which I had nothing to do with buying) I have to emphasize to them that they have to learn the fundalmentals of such things as PowerPoint and windows explorer, just like their children are using in high school. If I were trying to get them to learn to navigate linux, they would simply refuse on the grounds that I was a hobbyist wasting their time. This way, they have no excuse. So, I can use MS's monopoly against them. Thanks, Bill. That said, I will stick to linux for many needs. For example, yesterday I was hard at work reformatting about 50 documents in various formats (word, pdf, text). I had to convert word to text and then reformat the text and convert them to html which could be used by html2ps and finally converted to pdf with ps2pdf. If you want to see what I mean, just visit hammershome.com and look at the MorePDF link. With SO, wget (To download the 40 or so original documents off the web after ftp failed.), wvText, vi (you can edit all the documents at once), bash, and sed, and with about five xterminals open and an ftp link to my web page, I got the job done. For example, imagine searching 40 word documents at the same time for keywords. It's easy with wvText and grep! BTW, wvText with lynx installed did a BEAUTIFUL job converting word docs to plain text. The great part is, just one for command converts all of them at once. Joel On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:02:05PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:28:19 -0600 Alan Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windows is braindead. But you knew that. Today at work I had some postscript files in an e-mail I wanted to print. The e-mail was on Windows. Futzed around, couldn't find anything that would interpret PostScript. So I called our helpdesk. After a good bit of searching his answer was Adobe Distiller. I thanked him, googled, saw that ghostview/ghostscript was the recommended path, downloaded and installed and in 3 minutes was printing. Gad I detest Microsoft. Yeah, but some love it, especially those who don't have the time to devote to learning how to deal with linux, which does require a few brain cells. I have a friend who is putting together a fairly complex software package for hydrology and river bed research. He does all his work on Windows and even uses Gimp (yes, Virginia, there is GTK+ and Gimp for Windows!) for all his graphics work. The audience he is marketing his software to would have relatively little use for linux. You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Javascript question
I am going over some of my html/javascript beasties that I wrote for work. I am still confounded why these don't work properly in netscape or mozilla but do in opera6 and IE 5.5. For example, these buttons don't display properly in mozilla: input type=button value=Reset this form onClick=ClearForm(form1) Then, mozilla doesn't handle arrays, for example, this function doesn't work: function ClearForm(form){ for (i=0; i form.length ; i++) { form[i].checked = false if (form[i].value.search(/^MARGINS *\$1U? *$/) -1){form[i].checked=true} par[i] = } form[1].checked = true } Any insight appreciated, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Kernel config question
I am a bit rusty on building kernels but: It all depends on whether or not you configured the kernel or a module. If just a module, you could get by with just compiling the module. Rarely, there is a command for compiling the module in the source for the module. Or, you make just: make dep;make clean;make modules Since I used to have a broken set up, and make modules_install never seemed to work right, I would just move the new module to the proper location by hand, or just load the necessary modules with insmod. If you changed the kernel, then you have got to go through the kernel compile with: make dep;make clean;make bzImage You don't have to recompile the modules if you have not reconfigured any, IMHO. Then, you have to fool around and put the new image where it belongs (in boot) and adjust lilo.conf. Note: I haven't been able to successfully compile a kernel since going with lindows, but, I haven't had to, either. Ease of use usually means too complicated to mess with. Joel On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 08:52:59PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:10:59 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little hazy on some steps and what they do. I know I need to issue make dep make clean bzImage modules modules_install when I do a new kernel (on a new system). However, if I have an existing system where I just add an option via make menuconfig what steps do I really have to do? I wouldn't think I'd have to reinstall modules. However, if I specify the option I added to be a module I assume I need to do modules AND modules_install? I would recommend you do bzImage modules and modules_install in every case. I confess that I've gotten spoiled on the 2.6 kernels where very little additional work is done if you change a few config parameters and then remake, but I presume the same applies for 2.4 kernels. Let someone else jump in here. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
Of course, one problem seems to be powerpoint 2002. I have a macro laden powerpoint file I reuse over and over. This file is now 80 megs, without any slides in it. I have tried all the tricks on the Powerpoint FAQ page to reduce the size of the file. Nothing works so far. So, give MS credit for another big fat piece of sloppy programming. You would think with the size of their user base. But, consider the quality of their user base. Joel On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:29:24PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Well, have found one drawback in SO 7. It won't open really big powerpoint presentations. On my lindows box with 620 megs, SO7 chokes on a ppt of 340 megs, although it opens a ppt of 150megs just fine. On my windows laptop, with 520 megs, powerpoint handles the large file fine, but it is slow to load. On my old Caldera box, with 800 megs, the smaller files load fine with SO 5.2. With 5.2 the large file loaded after about 10 minutes, but didn't function properly, and finally froze SO. So, this appears to be a limitation of SO, not the hardware. I can load large ppt's on an apple laptop at work, too, and they run fine. Wonder why SO can't handle the larger file? Joel On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:53:11AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured why not, SO6 works well. An immediate, and welcome difference, is that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as well as an editor. Now, this is progress. Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
Well, I do pay a fee to belong to the lindows warehouse. And, I got only a download, not a boxed set. No user manual, CD, etc. So, Sun didn't have too much overhead selling me this thing. Joel On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:38:39AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: I'd like to know how they can sell it for $30 when Sun is selling it for $79.95 on their web site. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:01:31AM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: Only negative experience. Since I get really good results with OpenOffice, I would never pay even $.02 for Star Office. You, on the other hand, may find some particular feature that makes the departure from open software worthwhile. I have come to the conclusion that my time is worth something. I am now 57, and have only about 5 to 10 years before I get too old to bother much with computers. So, saving time is becoming more important than politics. I am also of the opinion, at least for now, that the open source movement just will not be able to deliver the ease of use of commerical software. What volunteer programmer is going to knock himself out for hours so some lazy non-paying user can have a trouble free software experience? Too often, open source means take it or leave it, blemishes included. I have gotten tired of that. I tip generously at restaurants for good service, so I can't see why I shouldn't pay someone who writes software which saves my time. And, certainly, $30 bucks for a competent suite like Star Office is a bargain. I feel good about supporting both Sun and Lindows, too. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
Well, have found one drawback in SO 7. It won't open really big powerpoint presentations. On my lindows box with 620 megs, SO7 chokes on a ppt of 340 megs, although it opens a ppt of 150megs just fine. On my windows laptop, with 520 megs, powerpoint handles the large file fine, but it is slow to load. On my old Caldera box, with 800 megs, the smaller files load fine with SO 5.2. With 5.2 the large file loaded after about 10 minutes, but didn't function properly, and finally froze SO. So, this appears to be a limitation of SO, not the hardware. I can load large ppt's on an apple laptop at work, too, and they run fine. Wonder why SO can't handle the larger file? Joel On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:53:11AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured why not, SO6 works well. An immediate, and welcome difference, is that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as well as an editor. Now, this is progress. Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Star Office 7
I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured why not, SO6 works well. An immediate, and welcome difference, is that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as well as an editor. Now, this is progress. Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Wonders of vim: Multiple file editing
Just to share the joy of vim, which is the vi loaded with many distros. I had to edit about 30 documents, converted from .doc via staroffice to text files. StarOffice did the conversion perfectly. Each had a similar format as .doc files, and I needed to make changes in the newly created text files so that they could be converted into html files of a particular format. In the past, I had to edit each file individually, or run sed scripts from the command line, which always involved a big hassle in saving the new file to a different name, then moving them back again. Now, I find that the command vi *.txt loads all 30 documents at once. There are a few commands for handling multiple files at one time which we all should know: buf! BufferID switches to the buffer desired. You can use the buffer number or the first, unique part of the file name. :buf! MyFi or :buf! 2 :ls lists them all :bufdo! runs a command on all of them, for example: :bufdo! 1,$ ! sed s/PATTERN/REPLACE/ If you have a complicated sed script: :bufdo! 1,$ ! sed -f script This is really magic. If you mess up, a very likely occurrence: :bufdo! u changes everything back. You can try out the sed command or script on just one document, then use the :bufdo! command to run it against them all. :wall saves everything. :help buffers is very useful. Navigate all the links in help with CNTRL-] Enjoy. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
nl putting in extra returns on only on some boxes
I am running this command: nl -bp___ -s -w 3 against some files to number them. The files look like this: SITE ___ Foot ___ Leg SIZE ___ Less than 5 mm ___ More than 5 mm etc. The output looks like this on my older linux box: SITE 1 ___ Foot 2 ___ Leg SIZE 3 ___ Less than 5 mm 4 ___ More than 5 mm This is what I want. However, on my newer, lindows box, nl or somebody is throwing in a line feed when it doesn't number the line, like so: SITE 1 ___ Foot 2 ___ Leg SIZE 3 ___ Less than 5 mm 4 ___ More than 5 mm The extra line consists of seven blanks and a nl. The documenation says that if a line is not numbered, the line separator string is still prepended, but that should be the -s option, which it is not. I can eliminate this with a simple sed fix, but, it would be nice to stop it at the source. Any insight appreciated, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Acroread: Why it won't open documents
Just in case you have this problem. I downloaded acrobat reader from the lindows warehouse (Debian system). It wouldn't open valid pdf documents or items linked on the internet. As usual, knowing bash helps. which acroread shows that the acroread command is really a script: #!/bin/bash cd ~/MyDocuments /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $* The person who wrote this script must never have tried to use it. Two errors in this script prevent acroread from working. First, it always looks for the documents in MyDocuments. Secondly, it can't handle blanks in file names. This script works: #!/bin/bash # cd ~/MyDocuments /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $* Geez. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Acroread: Why it won't open documents
It turns out that there is a third bug in the vendor supplied startup script. It is in the third line. If you make a link on your desktop to this command, and click on the link, you always get an error since $* is null. So, changing the script again: #!/bin/bash # cd ~/MyDocuments [ -z $* ] /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread || /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $* Joel On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:57:37AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Just in case you have this problem. I downloaded acrobat reader from the lindows warehouse (Debian system). It wouldn't open valid pdf documents or items linked on the internet. As usual, knowing bash helps. which acroread shows that the acroread command is really a script: #!/bin/bash cd ~/MyDocuments /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $* The person who wrote this script must never have tried to use it. Two errors in this script prevent acroread from working. First, it always looks for the documents in MyDocuments. Secondly, it can't handle blanks in file names. This script works: #!/bin/bash # cd ~/MyDocuments /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $* Geez. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Acroread: Why it won't open documents
Yes. There is a yearly fee. I am not sure if it is worth it, but, for a rich sloth like me, its OK. Joel On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 12:19:38AM +0800, M.W. Chang wrote: does one need to pay Lindows to access her warehouse? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7
Thanks. I exported my current address book to ldif, studied that format, then ran this script against my mutt aliases, and it actually worked. I attach it here in case anyone would fine it useful. This is quick and dirty, YMMV. s/alias /dn: cn\=/ s//,mail\=/ s/// s/ ,/,/ s/$/\nobjectclass: top/ s/$/\nobjectclass: person/ s/$/\nobjectclass: organizationalPerson/ s/$/\nobjectclass: inetOrgPerson/ s/$/\nobjectclass: mozillaAbPersonObsolete/ s/\(^dn: cn\=\)\([^,]*\)\(.*\)/\1\2\3\ncn: \2/ s/\(.*mail\=\)\([^\n]*\)\(.*\)/\1\2\3\nmail: \2/ s/$/\nmodifytimestamp: 0Z\n/ Joel Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Joel Hammer: Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla? Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook data format? http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/arch/index.html Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7
Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla? Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook data format? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
If you can't ping machines on your intranet I would think you have a local network configuration problem. Are you trying to ping by IP or name? If you can't ping the ip's, it would suggest your wife is on a different subnet. If you can ping ip's but can't ping names, you might try just adding the name and ip of your print server to /etc/hosts to see if that fixes the pinging. Do you have a dhcpcd server on your intranet, etc. How does your wife connect to the internet? Joel problem. On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 07:14:56AM -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote: list I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. Her only complaint is no printing. I can go to internet ok, but pinging machines on the intranet is a no go. Useing Suse 8.0 pro. can not find what is not allowng samba or cups from seeing the print servers. any suggestions appreciated. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Xine: Slowing down playback speed
When invoking xine with: xine -l ECIR.mgp for example, the playback is much too fast. Is there are a command line parameter or option that controls playback speed? I've read man xine and the two options they suggest, the down arrow key during play back, and the -S parameter, don't work for me. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Laptop suggestions
I need to buy a laptop in the next week for a trip. I don't think I can get a laptop loaded with linux during that time so I will likely just get an XP machine and either remove XP or dual boot it sometime down the road. So, my question, any laptop suggestions that would play well with linux? And, if so, which flavor of linux? I think I should get a wireless enabled laptop, too. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look into them. One point, maybe a sore one. Consumers Report recommended laptops with centrino chips because they get longer battery life and fit into a smaller case. I haven't used a laptop before, so I don't have a good feel for batteries. How long can you go on one charge on the laptops you like, just doing stuff like word processing? Joel On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 09:18:06AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: I need to buy a laptop in the next week for a trip. I don't think I can get a laptop loaded with linux during that time so I will likely just get an XP machine and either remove XP or dual boot it sometime down the road. So, my question, any laptop suggestions that would play well with linux? And, if so, which flavor of linux? I think I should get a wireless enabled laptop, too. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
Not according to Consumers Report. Joel On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:27:02PM -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: When Centrino was first released it had problems with the wireless part of the chip - does it still have that? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Can't execute cgi scripts from outside
I used to be able to run cgi scripts via apache on my home box while at work. This was convenient. After a bunch of more scares from viruses, they may have done something to the configuration of our work network so that this no longer works. This is what I used to see in my access log when things were working: mywork.place.org - - [15/Jun/2003:17:02:47 -0400] GET /MyPage/ HTTP/1.0 401 469 mywork.place.org - fido [15/Jun/2003:17:02:52 -0400] GET /MyPage/ HTTP/1.0 200 1115 mywork.place.org - fido [15/Jun/2003:17:02:57 -0400] GET /MyPage/send_it.cgi HTTP/1.0 302 255 mywork.place.org - - [15/Jun/2003:17:02:57 -0400] GET / HTTP/1.0 200 1201 It worked like this. Client requests a page (MyPage). This page is password protected. Client supplies password for user fido. MyPage is served up. Client executes a cgi script on the MyPage page (send_it.cgi), and good things happened. Here is what I seen now. 209.55.73.244- - [03/Oct/2003:08:47:19 -0400] GET /MyPage/ HTTP/1.0 401 469 209.55.73.244- fido [03/Oct/2003:08:47:27 -0400] GET /MyPage/ HTTP/1.0 200 1115 209.55.73.244- fido [03/Oct/2003:08:47:37 -0400] GET /MyPage/send_it.cgi HTTP/1.0 302 255 209.55.73.244- - [03/Oct/2003:08:53:08 -0400] - 408 - There are two differences in these logs. First, my workplace ip no longer resolves. That is, nslookup 209.55.72.244 is unsuccessful. This ip can be pinged, however. The second is the error code, 408, which means request timed out. So, I am guessing that apache is trying to resolve the canonical name of my work ip, failing to do this, and timing out. It doesn't execute the cgi script. I have HostnameLookups Off but I do have Use CanonicalName On The httpd.conf says the following: # UseCanonicalName: (new for 1.3) With this setting turned on, whenever # Apache needs to construct a self-referencing URL (a URL that refers back # to the server the response is coming from) it will use ServerName and # Port to form a canonical name. With this setting off, Apache will # use the hostname:port that the client supplied, when possible. This # also affects SERVER_NAME and SERVER_PORT in CGI scripts. # This is unclear to me. It looks like the documentation is using server and client to both refer to the remote computer. This has me confused. I don't know if the Canonical Name is the name of the server (my apache box at home) or the client at work. Does this mean that apache will identify itself by whatever name the client provided to it? That seems to make the most sense. If so, this shouldn't be influencing my problem. I don't use SERVER_NAME or SERVER_PORT in my cgi scripts although I do use REMOTE_ADDR and REMOTE_USER. This is a hard problem to troubleshoot since I have to be at work to test this but I can only makes change to my server while at home. This really slows down trouble shooting. I have changed UseCanonicalName to Off, and in a few days (today is Fri.) I will find out if this solves the problem. Meanwhile, any suggestions appreciated. BTW, all the names and addresses in the body of the letter are bogus, changed to protect the innocent from the not so innocent. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
File times
Can someone point me to documentation on file times? I am a bit confused regarding this subject (ctime, atime, and the rest). My hope is to find a time that is set when the file is created but which is not changed even if the file is modified. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Find command with multiple file types
Thanks, both ! and -o work just as expected. Now, please see my next question about file times. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: File times
When I list a directory with ls -al I get many files with a date of Dec 2001. If I use ls -al --time=ctime or --time=atime or --time=status I get a variety of newer dates, but nothing with Dec 2001. What time is being shown with ls -al ? Thanks, Joel On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:25:27PM -0500, Mike Reinehr wrote: From Info:find Time Each file has three time stamps, which record the last time that certain operations were performed on the file: 1. access (read the file's contents) 2. change the status (modify the file or its attributes) 3. modify (change the file's contents) You can search for files whose time stamps are within a certain age range, or compare them to other time stamps. Cheers mike On Wednesday 01 October 2003 09:21 pm, you wrote: Can someone point me to documentation on file times? I am a bit confused regarding this subject (ctime, atime, and the rest). My hope is to find a time that is set when the file is created but which is not changed even if the file is modified. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Debian 'Sarge': Registered Linux User #241964 More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Backing up debian
I am finally making my cheapo lindows box into a honest machine by installing a backup program. I just mount a drive on another computer, run find -newer somedate and tar them and zip them. Works OK. I fine tune what files to tar with sed /file/d. Now, my question is, on a debian machine, since I would be restoring from CD for the operating system and I will download almost all my software from the warehouse, what do I really need to backup? I have to get my boot directory and /usr/local and /root and /home, but anything else? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
stale NFS handle
I mounted a drive on a server via samba on a client (/mnt/Backup) . I then changed smb.conf on the server to reference a different path, and now my client complains that there is a stale NFS handle on /mnt/Backup. Is there a way to fix this problem without rebooting? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: stale NFS handle
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 07:24:38PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: NFS literally drove me nuts. Best bet sofar, if you can stand the permissions mangling is switching to samba. You'll be impressed with the speed of samba 3.0 compared to NFS any version. I was using samba, not NFS, when this happened. I had to reboot, anyway. The thing froze up, something it does from time to time. I think I have a bad hard drive. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Find command with multiple file types
This simple chore of setting up a backup program is taking my evening. I remember now why I was putting this off. I am using find to find files newer than the last backup to feed them to tar. This is working as expected, more or less. I want to find all file types except directories, especially regular files and symbolic links (which will not be followed.) It seems that the -type option only takes one parameter at a time. Is there some way for a single find command to search for several specified file types? man find and info find are both silent on this issue. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: from an sco press release today
Actually, it was worse. It seems they asked for recounts without any clear criteria for recounting ballots. That was the famous hanging chad debate. That was what the Supremes declared unconstitutional. Which is surprising, because I would have thought a compelling need to elect a Democrat would have outweighed the concept of equal protection under the law, but, dear me, this is getting OT. Of course, many people forget that GB won every recount, machine and manual, including one done by the media after the election. How soon they forget. Joel On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:27:30PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:13:12 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that having been said, i have every confidence in the ability of david boies to do for sco what he did for algore. Excuse me? I thought the only thing he did for algore was to push him to questionable election practices (recounting only certain districts) that the Supremes had to resolve. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fmt: How to skip some text?
Thanks for the suggestion. !Gsed '/^ /d' | fmt -w 130ENTER This doesn't do what I need, however. The newly formatted document will only contain lines which didn't begin with a blank. Lines beginning with a blank are deleted. I did try a sed solution with fmt, though. Please see my post: Bug in fmt? elsewhere on this list. Joel On Sat, Sep 27, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote: I want to use fmt in vi to format text, eg: :1,$ ! fmt -w 130 Without vi, this command would look like: cat file ! fmt -w 130 I want it to format everything except lines which begin with at least two blanks, like this: Extend your command to pipe it through sed first: This will format the entire document Go to the top of the document (1G); !Gsed '/^ /d' | fmt -w 130ENTER Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tulius Ciceroca (42 BD) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Bug in fmt?
Just trying to format some text with fmt, making paragraphs look nice and all. But, I want fmt to skip lines beginning with tabs (lists). Here is an example of the kind of text I am working with (ignore the lines): = The first part of this paragraph needs to be joined to this second and third line. List One Two Three == The output should look like this: == The first part of this paragraph needs to be joined to this second and third line. List One Two Three fmt says that the -p string will skip lines beginning with string. So, I ran this document through sed and put NOTAB at the front of everyline not beginning with a tab, like so: == NOTABThe first part of this paragraph NOTABneeds to be joined to this second and NOTABthird line. List One Two Three === Then, I put it through this command: 1,$ ! fmt -w 130 -pNOTAB The output was this: == NOTABThe first part of this paragraph needs to be joined to this second and third line. List One Two Three This is not good. It looks like fmt is stripping out the leading white space on paragraphs it is supposed to be skipping. I can get around this by running the text twice through sed. Putting a non-white character(s) in front of the tabs in the list protects them from being removed, but, this looks a like a bug in fmt. Any ideas appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Su
You are missing an ending quote in line 18. Now, you might ask, how did I find this? vi .profile :set syntax=sh :syntax on Joel On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:17:32AM +1000, James McDonald wrote: line 18 PATH=/usr/lib/j2re1.4.1/bin:$PATH doesn't have a closing quote It seems that when I su I get the following error: -su: /etc/profile: line 87: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `' -su: /etc/profile: line 89: syntax error: unexpected end of file I've looked at /etc/profile using vi but I can not seem to see where the problem is. Ive gzip'd my profile file as an attachment here hoping that someone might be able to see what I'm obviously missing. Thsi is on a Slack 9.0 box. TIA -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Su
I do not have any good debugging tools for bash, although I guess they exist. A most annoying part of bash is an error on line 3 is reported as an error on the last line of the file. Not much help. This is why, when I work with a large bash script, I only modify one line or two lines at a time before I test it. This syntax thing works for other languages, like html. To see what else is available, in vi(m): :help syntax Joel On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 05:04:35PM -0700, Ted Ozolins wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: You are missing an ending quote in line 18. Now, you might ask, how did I find this? vi .profile :set syntax=sh :syntax on Joel Dang! I like the way that works. Definately entered in my notes, Thank you. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Footers in Enscript
I may be missing something obvious, but: The enscript (1.6.3) man page claims that the footer option works just like the header option, but, when I try it I get no footers in the output. Looking at the postscript output shows that although my footer string is indeed in the postscript file, there is no do_footer routine like there is for do_header. I have the sinking feeling there is no do_footer routine in enscript, despite what the man page claims. Does anyone implement footers in enscript (without having to write your own footer routine?) Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Footers in Enscript
Well, it looks like if you want footers you sorta have to roll your own. My solution is attached below. I guess there is no do_footer routine because the do_header routine does the footers, too, at least in some circumstances. There happens to be a supplied fancy header a2ps.hdr which also prints a footer. So, here is a footer.hdr which just prints out the page numbers at the lower right corner. That's all I wanted to do. This gets really easy once you poke around in the hdr files supplied with enscript. Just gotta know a little postscript, is all. The trick is realizing that all the positions on the paper, eg., d_footer_x, are generated by enscript. You just have to fool with the %Format strings at the start of the hdr file to get the information you want to show n the header. The more adventurous can fool with the graphical stuff in the hdr file. Then, when you invoke enscript, use this option: --fancy-header=footer Joel % footer.hdr modified from a2ps. % -- code follows this line -- %Format: lowerpagestr page $% of $= %FooterHeight: 12 % Fonts. /Helvetica /helvetica-encoded MF /SmallFont /helvetica-encoded findfont 8 scalefont def /a2ps_marg 10 def /do_header {% print a2ps header gsave % lowerpagestr SmallFont setfont d_footer_x d_footer_w add lowerpagestr stringwidth pop sub a2ps_marg sub d_footer_y moveto lowerpagestr show grestore } def ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
fmt: How to skip some text?
I want to use fmt in vi to format text, eg: :1,$ ! fmt -w 130 Without vi, this command would look like: cat file ! fmt -w 130 I want it to format everything except lines which begin with at least two blanks, like this: 1. My list First Second Third Is there anyway to do this with fmt? par? sed? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Displaying octal numbers in bash
This seems more work that it should be. I did solve my problem with bc, but, there must be an easy way to get bash to display octal. Joel On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 06:35:18PM -0700, Tom Wekell wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: I understand that bash will do arithmetic in octal if you prefix the constant with 0. So: a=05 b=017 c=$((a*b)) echo $c yields 75 This is the correct answer, but it is in decimals, not octals. Is there a way to make echo display octal? Thanks, Joel More arithmetic? echo $((8#$c*1)) gives 61 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Underscores in Postscript fonts
Maybe I am just missing something obvious, but, is there an easy way to get underscores in your typical postscript font, like Times-Roman? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The spammers are winning
There must be a sleezy lawyer somewhere who could sue SOMEBODY to get these windows machines off the net. How about the ISP's who let these things onto the internet? Maybe pass some tough pollution laws. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Displaying octal numbers in bash
I understand that bash will do arithmetic in octal if you prefix the constant with 0. So: a=05 b=017 c=$((a*b)) echo $c yields 75 This is the correct answer, but it is in decimals, not octals. Is there a way to make echo display octal? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: email attack
I didn't see any info about it in your post. My email these days consists almost entirely of worms, especially if measure d in number of bytes, not number of individual letters. It is really bad. Let's hear a round of applause for Bill Gates and his computer revolution. The best thing is that MS, because of its awful software, will now justify restrictions on computers which will help it kill of even more of its competition. Hmm Maybe there is a method to this madness. Joel On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:46:52AM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Ignore my other post/query on this. I was so busy deleting the 700 odd messages that I did not see this info about it... -- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
VIM question
Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the help pages of vim and have learned a lot. Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily. However, the command: :iabb SF fails with this error: {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command. Any suggestions appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: VIM question
Dud Dumb mistakes. First, the command should have been: :iabb SF This still gives the error I mentioned below. I guess the reason is that these abbreviations are just straight key strokes. Thus, key and this knocks the editor out of the insert mode. Dud... So, using 2 instead of 0 (type crtl-V 2) as the esc key here seems to work. This seems to be a solution: :iabb SF font(Times-Roman8} and then run enscript with: enscript -e2 -ojunk.ps input.txt I suppose this will cause some complications down the road. Joel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:46:22PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the help pages of vim and have learned a lot. Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily. However, the command: :iabb SF fails with this error: {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command. Any suggestions appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: VIM question:Solved
Finally read enuf to get the answer. It's simple. You just need enuf cntrl-v's, how many seems to be a matter of guessing. This works: :iabb SF Entered with: cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v 0 font{Times-Roman8} Yes, I think it takes seven cntrl-v's Then, typing SF during insert mode gives: I don't really understand this, but, it works. Joel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:26:08PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Dud Dumb mistakes. First, the command should have been: :iabb SF This still gives the error I mentioned below. I guess the reason is that these abbreviations are just straight key strokes. Thus, key and this knocks the editor out of the insert mode. Dud... So, using 2 instead of 0 (type crtl-V 2) as the esc key here seems to work. This seems to be a solution: :iabb SF font(Times-Roman8} and then run enscript with: enscript -e2 -ojunk.ps input.txt I suppose this will cause some complications down the road. Joel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:46:22PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the help pages of vim and have learned a lot. Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily. However, the command: :iabb SF fails with this error: {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command. Any suggestions appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: VIM question:Solved
Hmmm... It looks like email really doesn't handle the esc (0) character well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] got removed from the post below in several places. Joel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:54:35PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Finally read enuf to get the answer. It's simple. You just need enuf cntrl-v's, how many seems to be a matter of guessing. This works: :iabb SF Entered with: cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v 0 font{Times-Roman8} Yes, I think it takes seven cntrl-v's Then, typing SF during insert mode gives: I don't really understand this, but, it works. Joel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:26:08PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Dud Dumb mistakes. First, the command should have been: :iabb SF This still gives the error I mentioned below. I guess the reason is that these abbreviations are just straight key strokes. Thus, key and this knocks the editor out of the insert mode. Dud... So, using 2 instead of 0 (type crtl-V 2) as the esc key here seems to work. This seems to be a solution: :iabb SF font(Times-Roman8} and then run enscript with: enscript -e2 -ojunk.ps input.txt I suppose this will cause some complications down the road. Joel On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:46:22PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the help pages of vim and have learned a lot. Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily. However, the command: :iabb SF fails with this error: {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command. Any suggestions appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fetchmail error
I pop my mail off a server with fetchmail. Every now and then there is a socket error while downloading an email. The transfer stops, and nothing else gets downloaded. I have to log onto the mail server manually with telnet to DELE the offending email. The really bad part is that the emails I downloaded don't get erased off the server, since fetchmail didn't finish fetching, and my mailbox out on the internet gets filled up (5megs of storage is nothing considering the large bulk of my email these days consists of security updates from MS.) Has anyone seen this problem? Any quick fixes? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
Geez, they just arrested a Muslim army Chaplain (West Point Grad, Asian American, studied in Syria), who worked with the Muslims held in Cuba. They are seeing spies under every bed, now. BTW, a big difference between WWII and now is that German Americans were strongly and DEMONSTRABLY supportive of their American govt, unlike Muslim (Arab) Americans today. For example, when FDR railroaded some incompetent German saboteurs to the electric chair, there was no outcry from German Americans. They supported the action. Today, if the US Govt decided to put to death a dozen Arabs for plotting industrial sabotage, after a quick trial by a military tribunal, imagine the outcry from you know who. You must realize that as a non-Muslim there is simply no reason not to kill you, in the minds of many devout Muslims. For example, I was speaking to a Pakistani female doctor recently. She said that there have been rare times in the USA when her ethnicity has caused some hurt to her due to discrimination. However, she said, if she went back to Pakistan with her white husband (her words, not mine), he would likely be attacked and killed on a public street. By, of course, people who consider themselves good Muslims. There are many millions of such good Muslims. The inaction of the many other millions of Muslims who oppose violence is puzzling. I suspect they are taking the same sort of pragmatic approach that the Swedes took in 1941. As the Swedish diplomat said, if the English win, we are Democrats. If the Germans win, we are Aryans. Think about that, next time you are angry over your government's efforts to protect you. You might be surprised at who your friends really are. For example, a lot of 60's kids who grew up despising the pigs (You know who you are.) came to rely upon the pigs for protection once they had something to protect. It is interesting to see how people, sometimes the same people, sing different tunes, depending on the situation. For example, many critics of Bush complain that Iraq may have freedom now, but what good is freedom without security? This is often repeated, and given credence by many prominent Americans. However, in this country, they complain about the slightest infringement of civil liberties. It is even more interesting that the infringements are especially irksome if carried out in the name of national security. Infringements in the the name of some favored cause, like conservation, campaign finance reform, diversity, abortion rights, gun control, etc., are much more tolerable. Just something to think about. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
It would be easy just to unload your MS stock. Apple, for example, rose about 50% in the last several months. MS has been a laggard, and promises to remain so. It is just too big to keep on growing. Joel On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:16:17AM -0400, dep wrote: quoth Matthew Carpenter: | They haven't drawn the conclusion that the initial outage was caused | by it, but there are reports (computerworld I believe) that MSBlast | was responsible for clogging the network pipe between power stations | used to avoid the cascading effect. The cascade-avoidance system | simply couldn't do it's job... | | I agree that it probably STARTED there as well... and ultimately it's gonna come down something like this: a crack of a major hospital or nuke plant is going to kill many or seriously endanger millions. it will be due to microsoft software. there will be an outraged response. what will the effect be? controls in the internet, probably. what it *won't* be is serious action against microsoft, even though their stuff is not only demonstrably dangerous but widely known to be dangerous. (the obvious corrective action, of course, would be to ban permanent connection to the internet of any machine running microsoftware.) there is no one to whom this is a mystery. yet such action as has been taken against microsoft on any point has been very weak. why? because the effects of a microsoft collapse would certainly be vast and severe -- far worse than the combined costs of all the attacks so far. microsoft is a very widely held security. those of us who have company stock-based retirement plans, 401ks, or any of a variety of mutual funds own microsoft stock. it really is a big player economically. so dealing with the microsoft problem *must* include some way of dealing with the substantial financial problem that handling the software problem would entail. it's easy to say screw 'em, but that aintagonna happen. it's a real mess. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 09:34:28AM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: You're scary. Is this what Americans (US Citizens in this context) think of this Homeland Security thing? If so, holy fsck. I hope you got to see the photo posted recently on Powerline from 9/11 of the man falling, rather jumping, headfirst from a burning tower. Now, that picture scares me. Of course, Hitler had the Reichstag fire, but, I think the Trade Center was an attack by a hostile force and not, as some claim, a phony attack planed by the CIA to justify abrogation of our civil liberties. Since none of us really knows what is in the Patriot Act (including those who voted for it), I am awaiting events before I make any judgements. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:33:34PM -0700, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There have actually been a number of politicians who have suggested we need to re-institute internment camps, just like we had in WWII. According to most historians, that was a pretty dark day in the US's history, and here we have community leaders merrilly suggesting we do it again. Yes, but FDR, who signed the order, has become a big ICON in the American memory, so, I guess it wasn't so bad. Earl Warren, also of great repute among those who call themselves enlightened, also had a hand in it. I used to think this internment was pretty bad, too, but I recently read some more and have had some second thoughts. Basically, there was a lot more going on than most people think today. Some items: 1. Japan invaded multiple areas in the Pacific at the outset of the war with the USA. Every place they went, there were agents in place, sleepers, under the guise of legimate businessmen and the like. This included such unlikely places as Guadalcanal. How could you prove there were no agents among the Japanese-Americans? How much resources would have been required to monitor the Japanese-Americans if they were left free? Would that have impacted the war effort? Everyday of the war a couple of hundred men were killed or wounded, even if no major fighting was going on. Ending the war a month sooner would have saved many American (and many, many, other) lives. 2. I read a book writen by a PT boat captain in the Phillipines at the outset of the war. The first day of the war their PT boat was immoblized. When they took apart the engine they found someone had put sand into the main fuel tank at their dock. I wonder who? 3. It is told to us that the Japanese only had one agent spying on the US Fleet in Pearl Harbor prior to their attack. Now, this is ridiculous. The entire Japanese war plan depended on neutralizing the US Fleet on the first day of the war. If that failed, the entire Japanese plan of expansion into the Pacific would have been impossible. Now, who thinks that the Japanese, who planned their operations with meticulous care, would have staked everything on one agent? And, who do you think helped this Japanese spy to operate in Hiwaii? How did he manage to communicate with Tokyo? Who gave him cover? 4. I have not heard or read of one person held in those interment camps who was raped or murdered. This is a great improvement over the record of similar camps run by the Japanese govt. BTW, the mistrust of the Japanese (and Japanese Americans) was so great in the American government, that the entire effort at breaking the Japanese military and diplomatic codes, which was a great success, was done without any input from Japanese-Americans. That is, not a single native speaker of Japanese was trusted to be involved with this effort. If such an exclusion were done today against Arab Americans, there would be an outcry, but, would security be compromised? The US won the war against Japan, unconditionally. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
Wouldn't it be great if people starting saying, enuf is enuf. Maybe if people whose computers were cracked and taken over by hackers faced legal sanctions (fines, suspension of service, etc.), they would take responsibility to fix up their boxes. Now, the lazy bones (or is it brain dead?) windows users just sit and get hit like sitting ducks. I guess they expect MS to protect them, even if they do nothing to protect themselves. I guess brain dead users are just to valuable to drive off the internet. Just like Scott Adams said, stupidity is the limitless energy supply of the 21th century. Joel On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 10:38:44PM -0500, Michael Hipp wrote: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030916/D7TJP93G0.html By TED BRIDIS WASHINGTON (AP) - Security researchers on Tuesday detected hackers distributing software to break into computers using flaws announced last week in some versions of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows operating system. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A contented linux user
Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 08:52:37PM +0800, Chong Yu Meng wrote: Actually, I have to say that in certain cases, it *is* cheaper and even more stable to run Microsoft than Linux or Solaris, or any kind of UNIX. It's generally easier to find a Sys Admin who is familiar with Windows than someone who is familiar with UNIX. You can't swing a dead cat in a roomful of technical professionals without hitting a Windows person -- in fact, probably everyone in the room is a Windows person, if you live Just thinking about this comment. Our very large hospital system (5 hospitals) is an all windows shop, except for systems bought from and maintained by outside vendors, like a pathology or radiology system. All desktop OS's and software used by individuals is MS. I believe our servers are also MS. What this means is that almost nobody in our very large IS dept is really a dedicated computer person. They are mostly retreads from various departments like nursing or radiology who wanted to do something different, so, they become analysts for IS. The attitude is that almost anybody with just an interest in computers can learn to handle MS. These are the people we are supposed to go to for computer problems and help. As a result, we don't do anything interesting with computers. We never capture the efficiencies promised by computerization because our IS people don't know or care enough to find ways to actually make our computers improve our performance. For example, in anatomic pathology, we generate thousands of individual, descriptive reports each year. This is an area where an intelligently configured computer system could save time. However, we still have the same number of secretaries we had before computerization, despite the fact that our work load has fallen substantially in the last 12 years. The computers we get and install actually slow down the work, not speed things up. It is surprising how fast a good secretary is with a typewriter. The computers put a greater work load on the pathologists (an expensive resource!). The IS people haven't a clue how to find ways to make the computers actually save us work. Furthermore, they don't care. Management also is clueless. They think having computers which slow you down is fine. MS software can do a lot. I am very impressed by VBA and the new script engines in windows. (We don't have a linux option in my place.) I recently asked IS for help with visual basic. Nobody in IS knew visual basic. The cheap IS people we hire don't even know how to use MS software. That's why they are cheap. So, having cheap IS people may look good on the IS budget, but, my experience is that cheap IS people are very expensive. But, the losses caused by such people appear on other people's budgets. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A contented linux user
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 08:52:37PM +0800, Chong Yu Meng wrote: Actually, I have to say that in certain cases, it *is* cheaper and even more stable to run Microsoft than Linux or Solaris, or any kind of UNIX. It's generally easier to find a Sys Admin who is familiar with Windows than someone who is familiar with UNIX. You can't swing a dead cat in a roomful of technical professionals without hitting a Windows person -- in fact, probably everyone in the room is a Windows person, if you live in Singapore or any part of Southeast Asia. That person is more likely to be able to setup a secure Windows server and apply patches all day everyday (in fact, that's probably what he does, besides trying to chat I think Asia is a bit different from the USA. In Asia, as I understand it, intellectual copyrights are not rigorously enforced. Does MS make raids on businesses in Singapore to look for valid licenses? When MS feels the pain (It made 16 billion last year, so no pain yet) it might actually get a lot tougher on software pirates. If MS software is free, it IS a good bargain and why not use it. Upgrades costs will be minimal, too, so MS can't just gouge you as it sees fit. Having to pay for software that others use for free is just one more extra burden for American business. It seems odd that US based firms don't sue MS for not enforcing its copyrights in Asia. That might be a good class action suit! OT_RANTI can't help but compare this situation to the drug industry. We Americans pay more for pharmaceuticals because we respect copyright laws, whereas in Europe the governments are monoply buyers and threaten to make their own generics if the pharmaceutical companies don't meet their price. European drug companies are shifting their efforts to the United States, also. This can't go on, and already Americans are finding out ways to buy cheaper drugs from Canada. This will of course lead to fundelmental changes in the pharmaceutical industry, that is to say, a lot less drug research and a lot fewer new drugs. If you don't think this is important, think about the improvements in drug therapy for heart disease and cancer in the last 40 years. Naturally, certain types of politicians paint the drugs companies as bad guys. In a democracy, people in the long run get what they deserve. /OT_RANT Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A contented linux user
There was a lot of correspondence generated by that essay. It would be nice if all linux advocates bothered to learn to use correct English grammar and spelling, but, such is life. Of more interest was the claim by one fellow that their switch to linux worked great until a couple of guys left who knew linux and then everything fell apart. He even claimed they got hit by viruses. Now, how can viruses affect linux if you are running the boxes properly? This one fellow sounded like he worked for a company that didn't have procedure manuals. In my place of work, a hospital, we have procedure manuals for every conceivable task. IT SEEMS TO ME that MS is giving linux a great opening for at least three reasons: 1. MS is still expensive. 2. MS is still insecure. 3. MS is getting nonstandard. This isn't talked about much, but there are so many version of MS out there (I still use Windows 95 for my desktop machine, works fine.) that windows is in danger of losing that which makes windows so desirable, standardization. There are even different versions of powerpoint for different versions of windows. This is not making MS look good. However, MS makes its money by selling software, and so it has to keep changing its software and forcing its users to upgrade, both software and hardware. MS generated 16 billion in free cash flow in the last 12 months. Their strategy is working fine. I guess people don't see that as excessive. However, imagine if linux could be understood by CEO's to offer a more stable and standard platform than windows. Imagine, Mr. CEO, no more being forced to upgrade because MS needs more money. Upgrade only when you want to and can afford to. Sounds like a good sales pitch to me. Joel Collins Richey wrote: Even though entitled with the eggregious GNU/linux moniker, this is a really great article: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/12/1733209 What makes it even better, is the article is squeezed between Microsoft ads chuckle. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Logging of Mozilla pages
cat history.dat | sed -n s/\(^.*\)\(http[^);]*\)\(.*\)/\2/p Of course, if they empty their history.dat file, this won't be of much help. You could also run this through grep to weed out things like doubleclick and use the sort -u command to get rid of duplicates, etc. Joel Harry Giles wrote: Is there a way to generate or retrieve a log of all web pages users on one computer have visited without logging on as that particular user? I need to be able to print them out, and you can't do that from Mozilla directly anyway. Perhaps a file in the .mozilla folder? TIA Harry Gils ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Linux now avaible in stores
I got this in the last few days from the CEO of Lindows. Just thought I would pass it along. (See below.) I know that there are those who don't think highly of lindows, but, they can rest assured that they are not the target audience of lindows. Lindows is targeting windows users. I have been using lindows for a number of months. It more or less delivers what it promises (An easy to use linux), although, I would hesitate recommending any linux OS to a computer phobic person. I am especially pleased by the browser, which works on almost all web sites just like IE. (But, there are exceptions.) My major complaints are the lack of easy support of PDA's, a relative dearth of games, and, of course, it doesn't run MS software, aka the software the rest of the world runs. Also, the fact that it encourages its users to run as root continuously is not in the finest traditions of unix computing. But, I guess when you are targeting windows users, there is no way around that. The debian package management system, whether you use the warehouse or just apt-get, is an eye opener to people who are used to using rpm and/or compiling from source. Joel Michael's Minute: Tipping Point - PC Club Today, we announced that PC Club is now stocking LindowsOS computers on store shelves in more than 50 stores. This marks the first time that a retail chain has committed to desktop Linux by putting computers on... PC Club is a personal computer retailer with stores primarily on the West Coast that emphasize the best prices and great service ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:42:22AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: Its fricking mozilla. Its not like Lindows wrote their own or anything. Yes, of course it is mozilla, but, it is configured to work. For example, no font problems, and plugins work as expected. Joel On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:42:22AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: Its fricking mozilla. Its not like Lindows wrote their own or anything. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:40am up 1 day, 18:34, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.08, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:40:58AM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: I've been leery of Lindows since reading that they run everything as root. If that's true, it's no more secure than the average Windows box. Yes, but, you can easily add a regular user, just like with any linux distro. Using root as the usual user is just laziness or ignorance (I plead laziness!). The only reason that root is more convenient is to use the warehouse without additional passwords required. I haven't tried installing software from the warehouse as a regular user. That might be a problem, and, since adding software is a not an uncommon activity (since lindows comes without much installed, you use the warehouse a lot in the first few weeks of using lindows), using root as your usual user is an easy habit to get into. Well, I DON'T read my email as root. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Comcast looking for competent SysAdmins?
Its not just spam. I am on comcast and I still log endless code red and other nasties trying to attack web servers, and almost every originating IP is from comcast. Joel On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:12:17PM -0600, Andrew Mathews wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 rant As of today's count, Comcast now has 1783 ip addresses that I've automatically blocked for being a spam source in the last week. These people have got to qualify for the #1 $LUSER and having a totally fscked up system. I have NO sympathy for anyone whose email is blocked because they use these arseholes for an isp. No, I WON'T accept 800+ spam messages a day to receive a couple from legitimate people. /rant - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 8:57pm up 18 days, 19:14, 12 users, load average: 1.01, 1.04, 1.08 - - Give your very best today. Heaven knows it's little enough. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/WVCQidHQ0m/kEssRAnasAJ9AhPJ4thaGmzWc29z2lHRVHSm7/ACffEl/ MUzMqPstnvUhpjyThzRale0= =GGBa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Netgear ethernet switch froze
This morning my internal network was down. The problem was the netgear switch box. It was accepting signals but not transferring them to recipients. Unplugging it and plugging it back in solved the problem. Does this have any ominous portents? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Who is Be ?
This in today's online Wall Street Journal. Who was Be, Inc. ? What did MS actually do? This settlement sounds pathetic, and another victory for MS. Joel Microsoft and Be Inc. Reach Settlement in Antitrust Suit *Associated Press* SEATTLE -- *Microsoft* Corp. agreed Friday to pay $23.3 million to Be Inc. to settle an antitrust lawsuit that claimed the software giant negotiated deals with computer makers that cut out the smaller company's competing operating system. Microsoft admits no wrongdoing under the settlement. The company did not disclose further details. The lawsuit, filed in February 2002, is one of four private antitrust suits brought against Microsoft after a federal judge's ruling that Microsoft had acted as an illegal monopoly based on its dominance in desktop operating systems. Redmond-based Microsoft resolved one of the private cases in May, agreeing to pay *AOL Time Warner* $750 million to settle its private antitrust lawsuit on behalf of AOL's Netscape division. The other two, filed by *Sun Microsystems* and Burst.com, remain in pretrial proceedings in federal court in Maryland. Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler declined to say whether the company is in settlement discussions with either party. Microsoft also faces another 12 state class-action antitrust lawsuits filed on behalf of consumers. Be, based in Mountain View, Calif., contended that Microsoft violated California and federal antitrust laws by negotiating deals with computer manufacturers to use Microsoft's operating system exclusively, cutting out Be's competing operating system. Be is in the process of shutting down its business under a dissolution plan approved by its shareholders in 2001. Microsoft contended that Be failed for reasons unrelated to Microsoft. While we believe we would have ultimately prevailed in this case, Microsoft is very pleased to settle this lawsuit, Microsoft general counsel Brad Smith said in a statement. Be's president, Dan Johnston, did not immediately return a call seeking comment Friday evening. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Netgear ethernet switch froze
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:46:25PM -0400, burns wrote: Have you updated the firmware in your Netgear lately? I have a RP614 No. I didn't know it could be updated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Enscript question: Making page colored
I hope you found it useful. A knowledge of enscript and postscript have been very helpful to me in various situations, like printer problems and formatting problems. Knowing postscript is like knowing html. There are editors around to generate html for you, but, getting under the hood is important. Joel Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Joel Hammer: \shade{val} I tried this and didn't quite get what I wanted. So, I went back to I'm not surprised. No Postscript coder am I. basics (really) and read the first chapter about postscript again and then looked at the postscript which enscript generates. There is a Box routine generated in enscript's standard postscript output, so, this text file gives a nice blue page on which are displayed two small pictures (jpg's) side by side (converted to encapsulated postscript by convert). [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1 setrgbcolor 5 5 500 760 Box fill grestore} [EMAIL PROTECTED] n ]{junk1.epsi} [EMAIL PROTECTED] x3i y-1]{junk2.epsi} Excellent stuff, Joel. Thanks! enscript is run with this command: enscript -o junk.ps junk.txt -e If you want to get this to work, of course, you have to generate the control code for zero, not the two characters [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my keyboard [cntrl v][0] (followed by your next character or space) works. At least in vi in insert mode. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use. I have built numerous kernels on this machine. It was simpler in the old days. I didn't run mrproper because I had to use all the configuration settings of my old kernel. My old kernel is a win4lin patched thingee. I would gladly buy a windows computer before I installed win4lin again. Joel Doesn't eDesktop 2.4 use grub? I have always used lilo with this Caldera 2.4 box. Joel On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:50:51PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote: recompiled it how? what did you change from the last kernel? I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make dep make clean make bzImage. If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use. I shoulda saved an old copy of the kernel. I rebooted without trouble after running lilo.conf, but the second reboot I got a hard drive error. Doesn't eDesktop 2.4 use grub? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``The fact is that the Constitution was indended to protect us from the government, and we cannot expect the government to enforce it willingly'' -- Dave E. Hoffmann, Reason Magazine March 2002 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
Well, I finally got the thing to reboot, and the newly compiled kernel is running, and I get the exact same error from the nvidia install script. It claims the compiler I used to compile the kernel is different from the one I am compiling the kernel module for the nvidia driver. I'll never know because I have no way of knowing which compiler the install script is using. After running the install script, if I try to start KDM I get a missing kernel module. Luckily, rebooting solves this problem. Now, I haven't recompiled all my modules with the new compiler. Things are working so why push it. Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore the compiler difference, it looks like I will have to find an older video card for this box. Maybe ebay. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
My problem, according to the nvidia install script, is that I used a different compiler to make the kernel than I was using to compile the kernel module for the driver. I compiled this kernel about two years ago and since then I tried to update glibc (never again) and I suspect I updated the compiler at some time, too. So, I just recompiled my kernel with the current compiler. Luckily the .config was the same. That was supposed to have made things better, but, there was no change. Same error when I tried to compile the kernel module. Joel Net Llama! wrote: On 08/31/03 15:43, Joel Hammer wrote: recompiled it how? what did you change from the last kernel? I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make If you didn't change anything, then how would the original problem be resolved?? Does your kernel have any AGP support? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this. The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is using. Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc? I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. Nothing else. Joel Ken Moffat wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore the compiler difference, it looks like I will have to find an older video card for this box. Maybe ebay. Joel Are all these problems from the nvidia*.run script? I had no problems on a couple of machines here running geforce4 cards. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
Good idea. which `gcc` returns: /usr/local/bin/gcc and file `which gcc` shows a binary file. strings `which gcc` shows version 2.95.3, which is what I think I am using. I went the extra step and recompiled my modules and make'd modules_install. However, depmod wouldn't work, never has on this machine. I still get the same error when I try to compile the NV kernel module, the NV install script complaining about the compiler version being different from the one used to compile the running kernel. uname -a show the newly compiled kernel is running. I would put this card into another computer (one of my lindows boxes, for example) but those kernels come precompiled and there is little chance the compiler I have downloaded was used to compile those kernels. So, until I can find which Makefile into which I have to insert the IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive, I appear to be stuck. Joel On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 07:20:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote: joel wrote: Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this. The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is using. Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc? I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. Nothing else. Joel Generally gcc is a link to gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.2 or 3.3. If you ls -l /usr/bin/gcc* you'll see what's there to choose from. You can change the link to point to a different version. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiled for
This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress. I found that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever. I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive. I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things went to completion. When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed in the title of this letter. I am stumped for now. Any suggestions welcome. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor:SOLVED
Fudgettaboutit. I hunted around a bit and found a module in /lib/modules/.../video that was placed there by the nvidia installer script. I insmod'ed that one and it worked. I had been trying to insmod a likely sounding module placed in the target directory by the installer. PROBLEM SOLVED My Gforce FX 5200 is looking good. It took only about 6 to 8 hours to get this card installed. Doom and quake look great. Now that I understand what I am doing with this thang, I may get a couple of more for my lindows boxes. Nvidia deserves a lot of respect and support from linux users. Now, of course, the question arises, do I have to do this all for the other kernels I boot on this machine? I'll have to find out someday. Thanks for all the suggestions. Joel On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:57:43AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress. I found that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever. I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive. I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things went to completion. When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed in the title of this letter. I am stumped for now. Any suggestions welcome. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor
I am using 2.4.5-win4lin. Joel On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:18:01AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: Out of sheer curiosity, which kernel version are you using? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More SCO Humor
Well, there is an obvious solution. It would require a lot of plumbing, though. But, it works well enuf for chickens in cages. Joel Tom Condon wrote: Which solves both the speed problem and the drug testing problem at once. This looks distinctly like Sundstrand when I worked there. You get in 5 minutes of real work, then you start heading for the can. By the time you get back to your desk you can work for another 5 minutes before it is time to start out again... ;-}) And then they wonder why you don't get enough work done for the optimistic schedule they sold to the customers. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Why Microsoft has to go ...
If the corporation goes bankrupt, somebody gets to keep the assets. The patents are still valid. Any company that tried to steal their technology could be sued. Joel burns wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 21:12, joel wrote: Well, not much really happened in court. Just some lost emails. What seems fishy is: 1. The author says you lose your patents if you go bankrupt. Individuals can keep patents. If the corporation was in danger of going bankrupt, why couldn't they sell the patents or assign them to officers of the corporation as compensation, etc. Losing patents on technology you have spent $$ on just because the company goes bankrupt doesn't seem right. Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Gimp: Opening files with long path names
With my current version of gimp (1.3), when you try to open a file, the default directory is always ~/My Documents This means that if you are working with files in a directory with a long path name, like: ~/Network/HAMMER10/public/disks/hdc5/Pictures/MaineVac you have to work your way through the whole directory structure to open one file. Opening a second file in the same directory makes you walk through the whole file structure again. That is, Gimp doesn't seem to remember the last directory you were working in. I cannot find any configuration file for gimp which would change this behavior. cd ~/.gimp-1.3 find . | grep Documents shows nothing of interest. Doing the same thing in /etc/gimp/1.3 shows nothing. The command for starting gimp (gimp-1.3) is not a script, but the binary itself, so nothing to tweak there. However, strings gimp-1.3 | grep Documents shows this: ~/My Documents/ So, it looks like they have compiled this directory into the binary. If you go to the directory with the file browser and click on it, this saves walking repeatedly through the file structure, but, you have to choose each time if you want to open with gimp-1.3 or gimp-remote-1.3, not very convenient. I could edit the binary to point to a symbolic link, but that seems excessive. Any insights appreciated. Joel P.S. Please don't suggest getting the source and recompiling. I am really into this Debian thing. apt-get install is habit forming. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Video card
Any recommendations for a video card. I play games occasionally. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
Well, I went and bought a GforceFX 5200. It is a 128MB DDR AGP card. I know nothing abut AGP. I put the card into my computer (an updated Caldera 2.4), took some guesses with the BIOS (made the aperture 128 and enabled read and write, whatever that is in the AGP setup section), and rebooted. The bios recognized the card at boot. But, X won't start. I went to the Nvidia page and got the linuxia32 driver. When I ran it, it complained that it had to compile a kernel interface, and tried to do it, but then complained that the compiler used for the kernel was not the same compiler I have now installed . It suggested I set IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to get by this problem. My problem is now, where do I set this directive? I can't figure out where the make'ing is going on so I don't know where the Makefile would be. (I tried to fiddle with the install script, but that changed the checksum, so, after I tweaked that, I get an md5sum error. Well, time to download again.) Thanks, Joel joel wrote: Any recommendations for a video card. I play games occasionally. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
Hmmm... I recompiled the kernel, and I get the same error. Could the nvidia installer be finding an old compiler? I can't find out what nvidia is doing with the install script because any attempt to modify it causes an integrity error and it won't run. Well, I have to mow the lawn. Joel joel wrote: Well, I went and bought a GforceFX 5200. It is a 128MB DDR AGP card. I know nothing abut AGP. I put the card into my computer (an updated Caldera 2.4), took some guesses with the BIOS (made the aperture 128 and enabled read and write, whatever that is in the AGP setup section), and rebooted. The bios recognized the card at boot. But, X won't start. I went to the Nvidia page and got the linuxia32 driver. When I ran it, it complained that it had to compile a kernel interface, and tried to do it, but then complained that the compiler used for the kernel was not the same compiler I have now installed . It suggested I set IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to get by this problem. My problem is now, where do I set this directive? I can't figure out where the make'ing is going on so I don't know where the Makefile would be. (I tried to fiddle with the install script, but that changed the checksum, so, after I tweaked that, I get an md5sum error. Well, time to download again.) Thanks, Joel joel wrote: Any recommendations for a video card. I play games occasionally. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
recompiled it how? what did you change from the last kernel? I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make dep make clean make bzImage. I shoulda saved an old copy of the kernel. I rebooted without trouble after running lilo.conf, but the second reboot I got a hard drive error. This story is developing. Joel On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:31:01PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/31/03 14:19, joel wrote: Hmmm... I recompiled the kernel, and I get the same error. recompiled it how? what did you change from the last kernel? Could the nvidia installer be finding an old compiler? I can't find out what nvidia is doing with the install script because any attempt to modify it causes an integrity error and it won't run. Well, I have to mow the lawn. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 2:30pm up 23:57, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.20, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Enscript question: Making page colored
\shade{val} I tried this and didn't quite get what I wanted. So, I went back to basics (really) and read the first chapter about postscript again and then looked at the postscript which enscript generates. There is a Box routine generated in enscript's standard postscript output, so, this text file gives a nice blue page on which are displayed two small pictures (jpg's) side by side (converted to encapsulated postscript by convert). [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1 setrgbcolor 5 5 500 760 Box fill grestore} [EMAIL PROTECTED] n ]{junk1.epsi} [EMAIL PROTECTED] x3i y-1]{junk2.epsi} enscript is run with this command: enscript -o junk.ps junk.txt -e If you want to get this to work, of course, you have to generate the control code for zero, not the two characters [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my keyboard [cntrl v][0] (followed by your next character or space) works. At least in vi in insert mode. Joel On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 11:29:02PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Joel Hammer: Does anyone know a way to make enscript produce output with the entire page colored, not just the text background? Add to the top of the document, where val is a decimal value between 0 and 1. Then, invoke enscript as $ enscript -e\\ foo -o foo.ps That gives you a shaded background, but I couldn't make the text visible. Enscript will take raw postscript. Is there a way to make postscript make the whole page a particular color? Kurt -- The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on. It is never any use to oneself. -- Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fonts small with X :1 -query host
Using lindows 4.0. I am really rusty on X and hope not to have to spend a lot of time on this issue. I have set up kdmrc to allow XDMCP requests, and changed Xaccess and things work. However, the fonts are much smaller in kde when started up via an XDMCP request than when kde just starts up in the regular way. So, is there some easy tweak to fix this? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: devfs - interesting news
This brings up the question. How did devfs get into the kernel with only one maintainer? And, can we avoid its replacement and just go back to the bad old days? I believe lindows came precompiled with devfs, and of course, I wouldn't dream of compiling a lindows kernel without devfs, even if I could get the thing to compile, which I can't. Joel On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:36:44PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Collins Richey: As posted on the gentoo home page: Devfs was declared obsolete today in the 2.6-test kernel!?! On 16 August. The maintainer has vanished, or at least ceased responding to email: http://lwn.net/Articles/44731/ Kurt -- Life is like an onion: you peel off layer after layer, then you find there is nothing in it. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Enscript question: Making page colored
Does anyone know a way to make enscript produce output with the entire page colored, not just the text background? Enscript will take raw postscript. Is there a way to make postscript make the whole page a particular color? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT VBscript in html: Security threat?
I see that vbscript can be embedded in html. Javascript was written to make it very hard to attack the client computer, whereas vbscript doesn't have these safeguards built in, does it? VBscript can do a lot of stuff, like write to your hard drive and run windows software. It really is a beaut. It would seem like child's play to encode malicious things in vbscript and let the IE users get whacked. If IE somehow was protected against running this program, it would be easy to make a vbscript a payload (cool screen saver!) and then have the unlucky user click on it and run it. What am I missing? Who in his right mind would use vbscript over javascript in their html, anyway? Why would you keep out anyone not using IE and a modern version of windows? (Let me guess. People who use MS development products.) Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache setup help
Just how are you serving up this document to your browser? Is Apache actually doing it? Have you put a file named index.html into the root directory? What is your root directory? Is your document valid html? Joel On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 03:49:44PM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: James McDonald wrote: sheesh ummm not real sure but here is my httpd.conf Thanks. This is a bit more info than I needed. Apache comes with a sample .conf file that looks a lot like this one. It is complicated enough, though, that I'd be better off reading the book first so I'll understand the options I'm selecting. Quick perusal doesn't show anything obvious to prevent html interpretation, though. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Helper applications in mozilla-1.3
Using lindows 4.0. In mozilla, if I edit helper applications, nothing seems to happen. That is to say, if I change the application for jpeg's to save to file or some other program besides kview, it still opens up in the browser. The mimetype file in ~/.mozilla/(and so one) is updated. Any insight appreciated, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Helper applications in mozilla-1.3
My other lindows computer 4.0 works without a glich or hitch. Joel On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:11:45PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/25/03 18:11, Joel Hammer wrote: Using lindows 4.0. In mozilla, if I edit helper applications, nothing seems to happen. That is to say, if I change the application for jpeg's to save to file or some other program besides kview, it still opens up in the browser. The mimetype file in ~/.mozilla/(and so one) is updated. Any insight appreciated, options: a) don't use the broken lindows version of mozilla. b) complain to lindows support -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:10pm up 10 days, 7:37, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Xine slow to start up while probing hardware
xine seems to be working but: When I issue the command xine, I get a long delay while it probes the audio hardware. This is what I see. xine *asx This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.21 (c) 2000-2003 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team. Built with xine library 1.0.0 (1-beta12) Found xine library version: 1.0.0 (1-beta12). XServer Vendor: The XFree86 Project, Inc. Release: 40201001, Protocol Version: 11, Revision: 0, Available Screen(s): 1, using 0 Depth: 16. XShmQueryVersion: 1.1. -[ xiTK version 0.10.3 ]- -[ xiTK will use XShm ]- -[ WM type: (EWMH) KWIN {KWin} ]- Display is not using Xinerama. main: probing xshm video output plugin main: probing alsa audio output plugin ---DELAY IS HERE xine_interface: unknown param 10 xine_interface: unknown param 10 xine_interface: unknown param 10 xine_interface: unknown param 10 video_out_xshm: tried to get unsupported property 2 video_out_xshm: tried to set unsupported property 2 video_out_xshm: tried to get unsupported property 2 Playlist file (082203_5_iraq1.asx) is valid (ASX3). libmms: stream id 1, bitrate 20362 libmms: audio stream 1, video stream 0 This delay is a minute or so. Any insight appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
windows = virii
I got fed up with the large number of notifications of viruses in my email so I consigned all my samba forum (Windows users by definition) mail to dev/null (procmail is good for something.) I have stopped getting these silly emails full of virii. So, I guess we know whose machines are infected. Geez. Its a good thing for MS that there doesn't appear to be product liablity laws for computer software as you would have with other products. Otherwise, MS windows might be held responsible for the costs incurred by these virii. Now, why doesn't some law class look into suing MS for this? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Universal vs local time
Here is what I get with the various suggestions: hammer11:~# uname -a Linux hammer11 2.4.20 #1 Thu Jun 19 14:13:55 PDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux hammer11:~# date Thu Aug 21 22:25:02 EDT 2003 hammer11:~# date Thu Aug 21 22:25:20 EDT 2003 hammer11:~# hwclock --show Thu Aug 21 22:25:31 2003 -0.431234 seconds hammer11:~# cat /etc/adjtime -0.000528 1061518802 0.00 1061518802 LOCAL My bios is set to local time. When I change it to UTC, the system sets it back to the local time either when starting up or shutting down. So, unless I want to get involved in those scripts (which I don't) this box is staying on local time. Well, got THAT question answered. Onward. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users