Re: Which file system am I using?

2003-11-20 Thread Joel Hammer
OK, mount shows that my original disk is reiserfs. My new partition is
ext2, whichI just created with fdisk. There is no choice for reiserfs or
ext3 with fdisk. Does one simple run mkfs to get the file system of choice?

Joel

How can I get On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:59:47PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Consuming 0.3K bytes, Joel Hammer blathered:
  What command can I issue to see what file system I am running on a
  linux partition?
 
 mount usually works for me:
 
 $ mount  
 /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw)
 /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (r0)
 /dev/hdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw)
 /dev/hdb2 on /archive type ext3 (rw)
 devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
 proc on /proc type proc (rw)
 usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
 192.168.0.1:/var/spool/mail on /var/spool/mail type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.1)
 
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Which file system am I using?

2003-11-19 Thread Joel Hammer
What command can I issue to see what file system I am running on a
linux partition?

Thanks,

Joel
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Re: sendmail won't start

2003-11-19 Thread Joel Hammer
The old script was called mta. What if you try that instead?

Or, just write your own script. The startup scripts are complicated
only because they need to do a lot of figuring out where things are,
etc. Since you know where things are, a startup script customized for
your machine might be very simple.

Joel

On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:35:33PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote:
 I'm trying to do something that is admittedly a bit foolish.  I'm trying to 
 get the sendmail RPM from Redhat-7.3 working on my ancient Caldera box. 
 There's really not much Caldera left in it, as I've been upgrading it 
 piecemeal to assorted Redhat RPMs for a while now, but it was last an 
 amalgam of COL-2.4  3.1.
 
 At any rate, I got sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 RPM installed, and running the 
 sendmail binary manually does work.  Its just the initscript that came with 
 it that fails to work.  If i run /etc/init.d/sendmail start i get:
 Starting sendmail: Usage: daemon program
 
 I can start sendmail manually with sendmail -bd -q1h, and it backgrounds 
 itself just fine, so its something wonky in the initscript.  Anyone have 
 any suggestions on what might be wrong here?
 
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Problems printing out PDF files

2003-11-18 Thread Joel Hammer
My daughter is printing out pdf applications for grad school. We
get various errors with acroread, but basically some documents don't
print. Here is one type of error. If I print the document to a file,
here is what I get with gv.

Error: /invalidfont in -dict-
Operand stack:
   ALBLUO+ArialNarrow-Identity-H   --dict:8/10(L)--   Font
ALBLUO+ArialNarrow-Identity-H   --dict:8/10(L)--
ALBLUO+ArialNarrow-Identity-H
Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
   %--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
   %--nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1   3   %oparray_pop   1
   %3   %oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop
   %.runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   2
   %%stopped_push   --nostringval--   3   8   %oparray_pop   3   8
   %%oparray_pop   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   7
   %9   %oparray_pop   --nostringval--   7   9   %oparray_pop
   %--nostringval--   --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1061/1123(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:73/200(L)--
--dict:45/89(L)--   --dict:76/160(ro)(L)--   --dict:63/78(ro)(L)--
--dict:8/25(L)--   --dict:27/35(ro)(L)--   --dict:17/17(ro)(G)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 2
GNU Ghostscript 7.07: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1

However, if I use pdf2ps to convert the pdf file to postscript, I get
valid postscript which I can print with gv.

I guess the problem is acroread is using a font I don't have to print
these files even though they display properly in X.  So, my questions:

 What is the difference between acroread and gs (-sDEVICE=pswrite) in font
 handling during printing?

 Is there someway to make acroread use the same fonts that
 gs does?


BTW, I have those Bitstream delux fonts installed. 

Thanks,

Joel

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Re: SO 7: importing postscript

2003-11-17 Thread Joel Hammer
Insert graphic

Joel
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:56:10AM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:52:23 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well, I do this same sort of thing with convert. (It's part of the
  imagemagick package.)
  convert file.ps file.jpg and then import into SO. Works fine and can be
  scripted. But, I would really like to know why these eps files look fine
  in gv but so bad in SO.
  
  Joel
  
  On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
   Joel Hammer wrote:
   

gs is used by ps2epsi. Is there a way to tweak gs to make things look
better when imported into SO ?
   
   As I've said in another thread (and keep saying), my all time favourite 
   in handling ps/pdf stuff is GSview 
   (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/), a frontend to gs.
   You may open your.ps in GSview, go to file|convert and get access to a 
   variety of output devices, e. g. 'jpeggray' which outputs your.jpg in 
   your resulution of choice, and this you may import into OO. It all takes 
 two or three mouse clicks and a few seconds.
 
 I thought to try this myself, but I'm stumped.  How are you importing a .ps file
 under OO?  I only get it to open as the actual PS code (text version).
 
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SO 7: importing postscript

2003-11-16 Thread Joel Hammer
I tried to import some postscript files (GNUplots) into SO 7. I first
converted them to epsi with ps2espi. They display fine in gv but look
lousy in SO. If converted from ps to jpg, they look fine in SO when
imported.

gs is used by ps2epsi. Is there a way to tweak gs to make things look better
when imported into SO ?

Thanks,

Joel

BTW, exporting to PDF with SO 7 is just really, really nice.

Now, if SO  could just have a user interface for text editing that
emulated vi(m), they just might have something! Don't laugh, vi(m)
is the best way I know to do text editing.

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Re: SO 7: importing postscript

2003-11-16 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, I do this same sort of thing with convert. (It's part of the
imagemagick package.)
convert file.ps file.jpg and then import into SO. Works fine and can be
scripted. But, I would really like to know why these eps files look fine
in gv but so bad in SO.

Joel

On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 Joel Hammer wrote:
 
  
  gs is used by ps2epsi. Is there a way to tweak gs to make things look better
  when imported into SO ?
 
 As I've said in another thread (and keep saying), my all time favourite 
 in handling ps/pdf stuff is GSview 
 (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/), a frontend to gs.
 You may open your.ps in GSview, go to file|convert and get access to a 
 variety of output devices, e. g. 'jpeggray' which outputs your.jpg in 
 your resulution of choice, and this you may import into OO. It all takes 
   two or three mouse clicks and a few seconds.
 Klaus
 
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Re: StarOffice 7 reviewed in Wall Street Journal

2003-11-15 Thread Joel Hammer
 to a Microsoft user.

Version 7 has a few nice added file features, like saving any file in
Adobe's PDF format, which Microsoft Office can't, and saving presentations
as Macromedia Flash files, common on the Web.

But as I said last year, this program is mainly for light users preparing
basic documents who either can't afford Office, or hate Microsoft so much
they'll live with some complexity and limitations.



On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:12:44PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 I can't link to it because it is from Thurs and it requires a subscription.
 
 But:
 
 The WSJ technology guy reviewed SO 7.  He said the following: SO 7 is
 much better then SO 6 for importing all types of MS Office documents,
 including excel and powerpoint as well as word.  He was very impressed
 by how well things imported. The big problem, from his point of view,
 is that exporting documents to MS Office is much less well developed. So,
 he wouldn't recommend it for anybody who has to exchange documents with
 MS Office. He pointed out that SO, but not MS Office, can export to PDF.
 The installation of SO seems much easier than before. (I installed my
 copy with one mouse click.) He noted that page numbering and some other
 items were more difficult in SO than MS.
 
 He also noted that MS is stealthily reducing the price of its consumer
 software. You can buy an academic copy, which can be installed up to three
 times, at stores, and have only the weakest link to a full time student,
 or none. This runs about $150 dollars. So, the pricing differential is
 getting much less. This tends to support my contention that the biggest
 beneficiaries of the linux movement will be current MS users who don't
 switch to linux.
 
 Joel
 
  
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StarOffice 7 reviewed in Wall Street Journal

2003-11-14 Thread Joel Hammer
I can't link to it because it is from Thurs and it requires a subscription.

But:

The WSJ technology guy reviewed SO 7.  He said the following: SO 7 is
much better then SO 6 for importing all types of MS Office documents,
including excel and powerpoint as well as word.  He was very impressed
by how well things imported. The big problem, from his point of view,
is that exporting documents to MS Office is much less well developed. So,
he wouldn't recommend it for anybody who has to exchange documents with
MS Office. He pointed out that SO, but not MS Office, can export to PDF.
The installation of SO seems much easier than before. (I installed my
copy with one mouse click.) He noted that page numbering and some other
items were more difficult in SO than MS.

He also noted that MS is stealthily reducing the price of its consumer
software. You can buy an academic copy, which can be installed up to three
times, at stores, and have only the weakest link to a full time student,
or none. This runs about $150 dollars. So, the pricing differential is
getting much less. This tends to support my contention that the biggest
beneficiaries of the linux movement will be current MS users who don't
switch to linux.

Joel

 
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OT Matrix III

2003-11-12 Thread Joel Hammer
Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III
is at least 2x as good as Matrix II. The reviewers must like mindless,
repetitive kung fu and must not like interesting dialogue that probes
the meaning of the human experience, heavily interlaced with the usual
astounding special effects. There was even some drama in this one. There
wasn't much kung fu, either, must to my relief. Oh yea, it would really
have been great if Keanu Reeves had pretended to act, but, I guess
wishing for Sean Connery in every scene spoils some of the fun.

Disclaimer I said this was OT, didn't I ?/disclaimer

Joel

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Re: StarOffice 7 user question

2003-11-12 Thread Joel Hammer
I just tried to time the starts on three machines. The older version of
Star Office (6.0) let me count to 15 (one one thousand, two one thousand,
etc) before it was started on a 1 gig duron with 256meg. SO 5.2 on an .8
gig Athlon and 770 megs took so long I thought it wasn't going to start
(got to over 20 counting before I gave up counting, but it finally started,
maybe in 25 secs.) On a 1 gig duron with 650megs SO 7.0 started up by
the time I got to 5. So, startup time is reduced by 66% in my tests,
which I consider official and final.

I can't compare SO 6 and SO 7 on the same machine because SO 7 removed
SO 6 when it was installed.

Joel
 

On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:10:06AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:

 On Wednesday 12 November 2003 4:27 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
  StarOffice 7 user question:
 
  I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not
  convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how
  it should be.
 
  When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a
  progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The
  progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However,
  at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to
  the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may
  just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have
  a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in
  files.
 
 I get the same results here on an Athlon 800mhz with SCSI drives...  And 
 I don't think it really is starting any faster than StarOffice 6.0 did.
 
 
 
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Re: Braindead Windows

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Hammer
Yes, I have also found another use for windows. Politics.  I have gotten,
by default, the job of getting us up and going with digital photography
in our pathology department.

You have to experience it to believe it, but our IS department is trying
to make my life as difficult as possible because I bought a computer from
the digital camera company, not through IS. Our IS steals software and
hardware from people who buy through them and not straight from the vendor.
Seriously.  And, of course, IS bids for hardware are slow and over
priced. If I suggested linux, they would use that against me for sure
and fight like tooth and nail all the way. We are talking seriously
computer impaired but politically savvy people. They have to be
politically savvy because they keep their jobs despite knowing nothing
about computers.

Then, there is the job of getting colleagues to use the computer. Since
these are busy people who don't want to learn anything about computers,
and they sort blame me for the digital stuff (which I had nothing to
do with buying) I have to emphasize to them that they have to learn
the fundalmentals of such things as PowerPoint and windows explorer,
just like their children are using in high school. If I were trying to
get them to learn to navigate linux, they would simply refuse on the
grounds that I was a hobbyist wasting their time.  This way, they have
no excuse. So, I can use MS's monopoly against them. Thanks, Bill.

That said, I will stick to linux for many needs. For example, yesterday
I was hard at work reformatting about 50 documents in various formats
(word, pdf, text). I had to convert word to text and then reformat the
text and convert them to html which could be used by html2ps and
finally converted to pdf with ps2pdf.  If you want to see what I mean,
just visit hammershome.com and look at the MorePDF link. With SO, wget (To
download the 40 or so original documents off the web after ftp failed.),
wvText, vi (you can edit all the documents at once), bash, and sed,
and with about five xterminals open and an ftp link to my web page,
I got the job done. For example, imagine searching 40 word documents
at the same time for keywords. It's easy with wvText and grep!  
BTW, wvText with lynx installed did a BEAUTIFUL job converting word docs to
plain text. The great part is, just one for command converts all of
them at once. 

Joel


On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:02:05PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:28:19 -0600 Alan Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Windows is braindead. But you knew that.
  
  Today at work I had some postscript files in an e-mail I wanted to print.
  The e-mail was on Windows. Futzed around, couldn't find anything that would
  interpret PostScript. So I called our helpdesk. After a good bit of
  searching his answer was Adobe Distiller. I thanked him, googled,
  saw that ghostview/ghostscript was the recommended path, downloaded and
  installed and in 3 minutes was printing. Gad I detest Microsoft.
  
 
 Yeah, but some love it, especially those who don't have the time to devote to
 learning how to deal with linux, which does require a few brain cells.
 
 I have a friend who is putting together a fairly complex software package for
 hydrology and river bed research.  He does all his work on Windows and even uses
 Gimp (yes, Virginia, there is GTK+ and Gimp for Windows!) for all his graphics
 work. The audience he is marketing his software to would have relatively little
 use for linux.
 
 You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your
 friend's nose.
 
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 worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.
 
 
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Javascript question

2003-11-09 Thread joel
I am going over some of my html/javascript beasties that I wrote for 
work. I am still confounded why these don't work properly in netscape or 
mozilla but do in opera6 and IE 5.5.

For example, these buttons don't display properly in mozilla:

input type=button value=Reset this form onClick=ClearForm(form1)

Then, mozilla doesn't handle arrays, for example, this function doesn't 
work:
function ClearForm(form){
for (i=0; i  form.length ; i++) {
form[i].checked = false
if (form[i].value.search(/^MARGINS *\$1U? *$/)  -1){form[i].checked=true}
par[i] =  }
form[1].checked = true
}

Any insight appreciated,

Joel

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Re: Kernel config question

2003-11-07 Thread Joel Hammer
I am a bit rusty on building kernels but:

It all depends on whether or not you configured the kernel or a module.
If just a module, you could get by with just compiling the module.
Rarely, there is a command for compiling the module in the source for
the module. Or, you make just: make dep;make clean;make modules

Since I used to have a broken set up, and make modules_install never
seemed to work right, I would just move the new module to the proper
location by hand, or just load the necessary modules with insmod.

If you changed the kernel, then you have got to go through the kernel
compile with:

make dep;make clean;make bzImage

You don't have to recompile the modules if you have not reconfigured
any, IMHO.

Then, you have to fool around and put the new image where it belongs (in
boot) and adjust lilo.conf.

Note: I haven't been able to successfully compile a kernel since going
with lindows, but, I haven't had to, either.  Ease of use usually means
too complicated to mess with. 

Joel


On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 08:52:59PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:10:59 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I'm a little hazy on some steps and what they do.  I know I need to issue
  
  make dep  make clean bzImage modules modules_install
  
  when I do a new kernel (on a new system).  However, if I have an existing
  system where I just add an option via make menuconfig what steps do I
  really have to do?  I wouldn't think I'd have to reinstall modules.
  However, if I specify the option I added to be a module I assume I need to
  do modules AND modules_install?
  
 
 I would recommend you do bzImage modules and modules_install in every case. 
 I confess that I've gotten spoiled on the 2.6 kernels where very little
 additional work is done if you change a few config parameters and then remake,
 but I presume the same applies for 2.4 kernels.
 
 Let someone else jump in here.
 
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Re: Star Office 7

2003-11-05 Thread Joel Hammer
Of course, one problem seems to be powerpoint 2002. I have a macro laden
powerpoint file I reuse over and over. This file is now 80 megs, without
any slides in it. I have tried all the tricks on the Powerpoint FAQ
page to reduce the size of the file. Nothing works so far. So, give MS
credit for another big fat piece of sloppy programming.

You would think with the size of their user base.
But, consider the quality of their user base.

Joel


On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:29:24PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Well, have found one drawback in SO 7. It won't open really big powerpoint
 presentations. On my lindows box with 620 megs, SO7 chokes on a ppt of 340
 megs, although it opens a ppt of 150megs just fine. On my windows laptop,
 with 520 megs, powerpoint handles the large file fine, but it is slow
 to load.
 
 On my old Caldera box, with 800 megs, the smaller files load fine with
 SO 5.2. With 5.2 the large file loaded after about 10 minutes, but
 didn't function properly, and finally froze SO. So, this appears to be
 a limitation of SO, not the hardware.
 
 I can load large ppt's on an apple laptop at work, too, and they run fine.
 
 Wonder why SO can't handle the larger file? 
 
 Joel
 
 On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:53:11AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
  I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured
  why not, SO6 works well.  An immediate, and welcome difference, is
  that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading
  documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a
  second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file
  browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as
  well as an editor. Now, this is progress.
  
  Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Joel
  
  
  
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Re: Star Office 7

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, I do pay a fee to belong to the lindows warehouse. And, I got only
a download, not a boxed set. No user manual, CD, etc. So, Sun didn't have
too much overhead selling me this thing.

Joel

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:38:39AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:
 
 I'd like to know how they can sell it for $30 when Sun is selling it for 
 $79.95 on their web site.
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Re: Star Office 7

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Hammer
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:01:31AM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
 
 Only negative experience.  Since I get really good results with OpenOffice, I
 would never pay even $.02 for Star Office.  You, on the other hand, may find
 some particular feature that makes the departure from open software worthwhile.

I have come to the conclusion that my time is worth something. I am now
57, and have only about 5 to 10 years before I get too old to bother
much with computers. So, saving time is becoming more important than
politics. I am also of the opinion, at least for now, that the open source
movement just will not be able to deliver the ease of use of commerical
software. What volunteer programmer is going to knock himself out for
hours so some lazy non-paying user can have a trouble free software
experience? Too often, open source means take it or leave it, blemishes
included. I have gotten tired of that. I tip generously at restaurants
for good service, so I can't see why I shouldn't pay someone who writes
software which saves my time. And, certainly, $30 bucks for a competent
suite like Star Office is a bargain. I feel good about supporting both
Sun and Lindows, too.

Joel

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Re: Star Office 7

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, have found one drawback in SO 7. It won't open really big powerpoint
presentations. On my lindows box with 620 megs, SO7 chokes on a ppt of 340
megs, although it opens a ppt of 150megs just fine. On my windows laptop,
with 520 megs, powerpoint handles the large file fine, but it is slow
to load.

On my old Caldera box, with 800 megs, the smaller files load fine with
SO 5.2. With 5.2 the large file loaded after about 10 minutes, but
didn't function properly, and finally froze SO. So, this appears to be
a limitation of SO, not the hardware.

I can load large ppt's on an apple laptop at work, too, and they run fine.

Wonder why SO can't handle the larger file? 

Joel

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:53:11AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured
 why not, SO6 works well.  An immediate, and welcome difference, is
 that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading
 documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a
 second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file
 browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as
 well as an editor. Now, this is progress.
 
 Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Star Office 7

2003-11-03 Thread Joel Hammer
I just bought SO 7 from the lindows warehouse. At $30 bucks I figured
why not, SO6 works well.  An immediate, and welcome difference, is
that it starts up much faster. This is actually important for reading
documents on the internet. And, wonder of wonders, it doesn't start a
second instance of itself when you click on two documents in the file
browser to edit. That was a pain in SO6. And it has a macro recorder as
well as an editor. Now, this is progress.

Has anyone used SO7? Any impressions? Tips?

Thanks,

Joel



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Wonders of vim: Multiple file editing

2003-11-03 Thread Joel Hammer
Just to share the joy of vim, which is the vi loaded with many distros.

I had to edit about 30 documents, converted from .doc via staroffice to
text files. StarOffice did the conversion perfectly. Each had a similar
format as .doc files, and I needed to make changes in the newly created
text files so that they could be converted into html files of a particular
format. In the past, I had to edit each file individually, or run sed
scripts from the command line, which always involved a big hassle in
saving the new file to a different name, then moving them back again.

Now, I find that the command vi *.txt loads all 30 documents at once.

There are a few commands for handling multiple files at one time which we
all should know:
buf! BufferID 
switches to the buffer desired. You can use the buffer number or the
first, unique part of the file name.
:buf! MyFi or
:buf! 2
:ls   lists them all
:bufdo!   runs a command on all of them, for example:
:bufdo! 1,$ ! sed s/PATTERN/REPLACE/
If you have a complicated sed script:
:bufdo! 1,$ ! sed -f script

This is really magic.

If you mess up, a very likely occurrence:
:bufdo! u
changes everything back.

You can try out the sed command or script on just one document, then use the 
:bufdo! command to run it against them all.

:wall saves everything.

:help buffers is very useful.
Navigate all the links in help with CNTRL-] 

Enjoy.

Joel
 
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nl putting in extra returns on only on some boxes

2003-11-02 Thread Joel Hammer
I am running this command:
nl -bp___ -s   -w   3
against some files to number them.
The files look like this:

SITE
___ Foot
___ Leg
SIZE
___ Less than 5 mm
___ More than 5 mm

etc.

The output looks like this on my older linux box:

SITE
1 ___ Foot
2 ___ Leg
SIZE
3 ___ Less than 5 mm
4 ___ More than 5 mm

This is what I want.
However, on my newer, lindows box, nl or somebody is throwing in a line feed
when it doesn't number the line, like so:

SITE
1 ___ Foot
2 ___ Leg

SIZE
3 ___ Less than 5 mm
4 ___ More than 5 mm

The extra line consists of seven blanks and a nl.

The documenation says that if a line is not numbered, the line separator
string is still prepended, but that should be the -s option, which it is
not.

I can eliminate this with a simple sed fix, but, it would be nice to
stop it at the source.

Any insight appreciated,

Joel

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Acroread: Why it won't open documents

2003-11-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Just in case you have this problem.

I downloaded acrobat reader from the lindows warehouse (Debian system). It
wouldn't open valid pdf documents or items linked on the internet.

As usual, knowing bash helps.

which acroread shows that the acroread command is really a script:

#!/bin/bash
cd ~/MyDocuments
/usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $*


The person who wrote this script must never have tried to use it. Two
errors in this script prevent acroread from working. First, it always
looks for the documents in MyDocuments. Secondly, it can't handle blanks
in file names.

This script works:

#!/bin/bash
# cd ~/MyDocuments
/usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $*

Geez.

Joel


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Re: Acroread: Why it won't open documents

2003-11-01 Thread Joel Hammer
It turns out that there is a third bug in the vendor supplied startup
script. It is in the third line. 
If you make a link on your desktop to this command, and click on the link,
you always get an error since $* is null.

So, changing the script again:

#!/bin/bash
# cd ~/MyDocuments
[ -z $* ]  /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread || /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $*

Joel


On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:57:37AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Just in case you have this problem.
 
 I downloaded acrobat reader from the lindows warehouse (Debian system). It
 wouldn't open valid pdf documents or items linked on the internet.
 
 As usual, knowing bash helps.
 
 which acroread shows that the acroread command is really a script:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 cd ~/MyDocuments
 /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $*
 
 
 The person who wrote this script must never have tried to use it. Two
 errors in this script prevent acroread from working. First, it always
 looks for the documents in MyDocuments. Secondly, it can't handle blanks
 in file names.
 
 This script works:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 # cd ~/MyDocuments
 /usr/Acrobat5/bin/acroread $*
 
 Geez.
 
 Joel
 
 
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Re: Acroread: Why it won't open documents

2003-11-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Yes. There is a yearly fee. I am not sure if it is worth it, but, for
a rich sloth like me, its OK.
Joel

On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 12:19:38AM +0800, M.W. Chang wrote:
 does one need to pay Lindows to access her warehouse?
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Re: Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7

2003-10-09 Thread joel
Thanks.
I exported my current address book to ldif, studied that format, then 
ran this script against my mutt aliases, and it actually worked. I 
attach it here in case anyone would fine it useful.

This is quick and dirty, YMMV.

s/alias /dn: cn\=/
s//,mail\=/
s///
s/ ,/,/
s/$/\nobjectclass: top/
s/$/\nobjectclass: person/
s/$/\nobjectclass: organizationalPerson/
s/$/\nobjectclass: inetOrgPerson/
s/$/\nobjectclass: mozillaAbPersonObsolete/
s/\(^dn: cn\=\)\([^,]*\)\(.*\)/\1\2\3\ncn: \2/
s/\(.*mail\=\)\([^\n]*\)\(.*\)/\1\2\3\nmail: \2/
s/$/\nmodifytimestamp: 0Z\n/
Joel

Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Joel Hammer:
 

Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt 
aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla?
Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook 
data format?
   

http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/arch/index.html

Kurt
 

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Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7

2003-10-08 Thread Joel Hammer
Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt 
aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla?
Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook 
data format?
Thanks,
Joel

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Re: question

2003-10-07 Thread Joel Hammer
If you can't ping machines on your intranet I would think you have a local
network configuration problem.  Are you trying to ping by IP or name? If
you can't ping the ip's, it would suggest your wife is on a different
subnet. If you can ping ip's but can't ping names, you might try just
adding the name and ip of your print server to /etc/hosts to see if that
fixes the pinging. Do you have a dhcpcd server on your intranet, etc.
How does your wife connect to the internet?
Joel

problem. On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 07:14:56AM -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote:
 list
 
   I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. Her only
 complaint is no printing. I can go to internet ok, but pinging machines on the
 intranet is a no go. Useing Suse 8.0 pro. can not find what is not allowng samba
 or cups from seeing the print servers. any suggestions appreciated.
 
 cheers
 
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Xine: Slowing down playback speed

2003-10-04 Thread Joel Hammer
When invoking xine with:
 xine -l ECIR.mgp
for example, the playback is much too fast. Is there are a command line
parameter or option that controls playback speed?

I've read man xine and the two options they suggest, the down arrow
key during play back, and the -S parameter, don't work for me.

Thanks,
Joel


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Laptop suggestions

2003-10-04 Thread Joel Hammer
I need to buy a laptop in the next week for a trip. I don't think I can
get a laptop loaded with linux during that time so I will likely just get
an XP machine and either remove XP or dual boot it sometime down the road.

So, my question, any laptop suggestions that would play well with linux?

And, if so, which flavor of linux?

I think I should get a wireless enabled laptop, too.

Thanks,

Joel

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Re: Laptop suggestions

2003-10-04 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look into them. 

One point, maybe a sore one. Consumers Report recommended laptops with
centrino chips because they get longer battery life and fit into a smaller
case. I haven't used a laptop before, so I don't have a good feel for
batteries. How long can you go on one charge on the laptops you like, just
doing stuff like word processing?

Joel

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 09:18:06AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
 I need to buy a laptop in the next week for a trip. I don't think I can
 get a laptop loaded with linux during that time so I will likely just get
 an XP machine and either remove XP or dual boot it sometime down the road.
 
 So, my question, any laptop suggestions that would play well with linux?
 
 And, if so, which flavor of linux?
 
 I think I should get a wireless enabled laptop, too.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joel
 
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Re: Laptop suggestions

2003-10-04 Thread Joel Hammer
Not according to Consumers Report.

Joel

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:27:02PM -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 When Centrino was first released it had problems with the wireless part of 
 the chip - does it still have that?

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Can't execute cgi scripts from outside

2003-10-03 Thread joel
I used to be able to run cgi scripts via apache on my home box while at 
work. This was convenient.
After a bunch of more scares from viruses, they may have done something  
to the configuration of our work network so that this no longer works.

This is what I used to see in my access log when things were working:

mywork.place.org - - [15/Jun/2003:17:02:47 -0400] GET /MyPage/ 
HTTP/1.0 401 469
mywork.place.org - fido [15/Jun/2003:17:02:52 -0400] GET /MyPage/ 
HTTP/1.0 200 1115
mywork.place.org - fido [15/Jun/2003:17:02:57 -0400] GET 
/MyPage/send_it.cgi HTTP/1.0 302 255
mywork.place.org - - [15/Jun/2003:17:02:57 -0400] GET / HTTP/1.0 200 1201

It worked like this.  Client requests a page (MyPage). This page is 
password protected. Client supplies password for user fido. MyPage is 
served up.  Client executes a cgi script on the MyPage page 
(send_it.cgi), and good things happened.

Here is what I seen now.

209.55.73.244- - [03/Oct/2003:08:47:19 -0400] GET /MyPage/ HTTP/1.0 
401 469
209.55.73.244- fido [03/Oct/2003:08:47:27 -0400] GET /MyPage/ HTTP/1.0 
200 1115
209.55.73.244- fido [03/Oct/2003:08:47:37 -0400] GET 
/MyPage/send_it.cgi HTTP/1.0 302 255
209.55.73.244- - [03/Oct/2003:08:53:08 -0400] - 408 -

There are  two differences in these logs. First, my workplace  ip no 
longer resolves. That is, nslookup 209.55.72.244 is unsuccessful. This 
ip can be pinged, however. The second is the error code, 408, which 
means request timed out. So, I am guessing that apache is trying to 
resolve the canonical name of my work ip, failing to do this, and timing 
out. It doesn't execute the cgi script. I have HostnameLookups Off but I 
do have Use CanonicalName On

The httpd.conf says the following:

# UseCanonicalName:  (new for 1.3)  With this setting turned on, whenever
# Apache needs to construct a self-referencing URL (a URL that refers back
# to the server the response is coming from) it will use ServerName and
# Port to form a canonical name.  With this setting off, Apache will
# use the hostname:port that the client supplied, when possible.  This
# also affects SERVER_NAME and SERVER_PORT in CGI scripts.
#
This is unclear to me. It looks like the documentation is using server 
and client to both refer to the remote computer. This has me confused. 
I don't know if the Canonical Name is the name of the server (my apache 
box at home) or the client at work. Does this mean that apache will 
identify itself by whatever name the client provided to it? That seems 
to make the most sense. If so, this shouldn't be influencing my problem.
I don't use SERVER_NAME or SERVER_PORT in my cgi scripts although  I do 
use REMOTE_ADDR and REMOTE_USER.

This is a hard problem to troubleshoot since I have to be at work to 
test this but I can only makes change to my server while at home. This 
really slows down trouble shooting.

I have changed UseCanonicalName to Off, and in a few days (today is 
Fri.) I will find out if this solves the problem.  Meanwhile, any 
suggestions appreciated.

BTW, all the names and addresses in the body of the letter are bogus, 
changed to protect the innocent from the not so innocent.

Joel

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File times

2003-10-02 Thread Joel Hammer
Can someone point me to documentation on file times?

I am a bit confused regarding this subject (ctime, atime, and the rest).

My hope is to find a time that is set when the file is created but which
is not changed even if the file is modified.

Joel

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Re: Find command with multiple file types

2003-10-02 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks, both ! and -o work just as expected.
Now, please see my next question about file times.
Joel
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Re: File times

2003-10-02 Thread Joel Hammer
When I list a directory with 
 ls -al

I get many files with a date of Dec 2001.

If I use ls -al --time=ctime or --time=atime or --time=status I get a
variety of newer dates, but nothing with Dec 2001. What time is being
shown with ls -al ?

Thanks,
Joel




On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:25:27PM -0500, Mike Reinehr wrote:
 From Info:find
 
 Time
  
  
  Each file has three time stamps, which record the last time that certain
  operations were performed on the file:
  
1. access (read the file's contents)
  
2. change the status (modify the file or its attributes)
  
3. modify (change the file's contents)
  
 You can search for files whose time stamps are within a certain age
  range, or compare them to other time stamps.
 
 Cheers
 
 mike
 
 On Wednesday 01 October 2003 09:21 pm, you wrote:
  Can someone point me to documentation on file times?
 
  I am a bit confused regarding this subject (ctime, atime, and the rest).
 
  My hope is to find a time that is set when the file is created but which
  is not changed even if the file is modified.
 
  Joel
 
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Backing up debian

2003-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer
I am finally making my cheapo lindows box into a honest machine by
installing a backup program. I just mount a drive on another computer,
run find -newer somedate and tar them and zip them.  Works OK. I fine
tune what files to tar with sed /file/d.

Now, my question is, on a debian machine, since I would be restoring from
CD for the operating system and I will download almost all my software
from the warehouse, what do I really need to backup? I have to get my
boot directory and /usr/local and /root and /home, but anything else?

Thanks,

Joel

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stale NFS handle

2003-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer
I mounted a drive on a server via samba on a client (/mnt/Backup) .
I then changed smb.conf on the server to reference a different path, and
now my client complains that there is a stale NFS handle on /mnt/Backup. 

Is there a way to fix this problem without rebooting?

Thanks,

Joel


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Re: stale NFS handle

2003-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 07:24:38PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
 
 NFS literally drove me nuts. Best bet sofar, if you can stand the permissions 
 mangling is switching to samba. You'll be impressed with the speed of samba 
 3.0 compared to NFS any version.
I was using samba, not NFS, when this happened.  I had to reboot,
anyway. The thing froze up, something it does from time to time. I think
I have a bad hard drive.

Joel
 
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Find command with multiple file types

2003-09-30 Thread Joel Hammer
This simple chore of setting up a backup program is taking my evening. I
remember now why I was putting this off.

I am using find to find files newer than the last backup to feed them to
tar. This is working as expected, more or less. I want to find all file
types except directories, especially regular files and symbolic links
(which will not be followed.) It seems that the -type option only takes
one parameter at a time.  Is there some way for a single find command
to search for several specified file types? man find and info find are
both silent on this issue.

Thanks,

Joel

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Re: from an sco press release today

2003-09-29 Thread Joel Hammer
Actually, it was worse. It seems they asked for recounts without any
clear criteria for recounting ballots. That was the famous hanging chad
debate.  That was what the Supremes declared unconstitutional. Which
is surprising, because I would have thought a compelling need to elect
a Democrat would have outweighed the concept of equal protection under
the law, but, dear me, this is getting OT.

Of course, many people forget that GB won every recount, machine and
manual, including one done by the media after the election. How soon
they forget. 

Joel

On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:27:30PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:13:12 -0400
 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  that having been said, i have every confidence in the ability of david boies
  to do for sco what he did for algore.
  
 Excuse me?  I thought the only thing he did for algore was to push him to
 questionable election practices (recounting only certain districts) that the
 Supremes had to resolve. 
 
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Re: fmt: How to skip some text?

2003-09-28 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks for the suggestion.

 !Gsed '/^  /d' | fmt -w 130ENTER

This doesn't do what I need, however.

The newly formatted document will only contain lines which didn't begin
with a blank. Lines beginning with a blank are deleted.

I did try a sed solution with fmt, though. Please see my post:
Bug in fmt? elsewhere on this list.

Joel

 On Sat, Sep 27, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
 I want to use fmt in vi to format text, eg:
   :1,$ ! fmt -w 130
 
 Without vi, this command would look like:
   cat file ! fmt -w 130
 
 I want it to format everything except lines which begin with at least
 two blanks, like this:
 
 Extend your command to pipe it through sed first:
 
 This will format the entire document
 Go to the top of the document (1G);
 !Gsed '/^  /d' | fmt -w 130ENTER
 
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Bug in fmt?

2003-09-28 Thread Joel Hammer
Just trying to format some text with fmt, making paragraphs look nice
and all. But, I want fmt to skip lines beginning with tabs (lists).

Here is an example of the kind of text I am working with (ignore the
lines):

=
The first part of this paragraph
needs to be joined to this second and
third line.

List
One
Two
Three
==

The output should look like this:

==
The first part of this paragraph needs to be joined to this second and
third line.

List
One
Two
Three



fmt says that the -p string will skip lines beginning with string.  So,
I ran this document through sed and put NOTAB at the front of everyline
not beginning with a tab, like so:

==
NOTABThe first part of this paragraph
NOTABneeds to be joined to this second and
NOTABthird line.

List
One
Two
Three
===

Then, I put it through this command:
1,$ ! fmt -w 130 -pNOTAB
The output was this:

==
NOTABThe first part of this paragraph needs to be joined to this second and third line.

List
One
Two
Three

This is not good. It looks like fmt is stripping out the leading white
space on paragraphs it is supposed to be skipping.

I can get around this by running the text twice through sed. Putting a
non-white character(s) in front of the tabs in the list protects them
from being removed, but, this looks a like a bug in fmt.

Any ideas appreciated.

Joel

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Re: Su

2003-09-28 Thread Joel Hammer
You are missing an ending quote in line 18.

Now, you might ask, how did I find this? 
vi .profile
:set syntax=sh
:syntax on

Joel

On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:17:32AM +1000, James McDonald wrote:
 line 18 PATH=/usr/lib/j2re1.4.1/bin:$PATH doesn't have a closing quote
 
 
 
  It seems that when I su I get the following error:
 
  -su: /etc/profile: line 87: unexpected EOF while looking for matching
  `' -su: /etc/profile: line 89: syntax error: unexpected end of file
 
I've looked at /etc/profile using vi but I can not seem to see where
  the problem is. Ive gzip'd my profile file as an attachment here hoping
  that someone might be able to see what I'm obviously missing.
  Thsi is on a Slack 9.0 box.
 
  TIA
  --
  Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
  Westbank, B. C.
 
 
 -- 
 James McDonald
 Systems Engineer
 
 Singleton NSW Australia
 
 
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Re: Su

2003-09-28 Thread Joel Hammer
I do not have any good debugging tools for bash, although I guess they
exist. A most annoying part of bash is an error on line 3 is reported
as an error on the last line of the file. Not much help. This is why,
when I work with a large bash script, I only modify one line or two
lines at a time before I test it.

This syntax thing works for other languages, like html.

To see what else is available, in vi(m):
:help syntax

Joel

On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 05:04:35PM -0700, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 Joel Hammer wrote:
  You are missing an ending quote in line 18.
  
  Now, you might ask, how did I find this? 
  vi .profile
  :set syntax=sh
  :syntax on
  
  Joel
 Dang! I like the way that works. Definately entered in my notes, Thank you.
 
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Footers in Enscript

2003-09-27 Thread Joel Hammer
I may be missing something obvious, but:

The enscript (1.6.3) man page claims that the footer option works just
like the header option, but, when I try it I get no footers in the output.
Looking at the postscript output shows that although my footer string
is indeed in the postscript file, there is no do_footer routine like
there is for do_header.

I have the sinking feeling there is no do_footer routine in enscript,
despite what the man page claims.

Does anyone implement footers in enscript (without having to write your
own footer routine?)

Thanks,

Joel

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Re: Footers in Enscript

2003-09-27 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, it looks like if you want footers you sorta have to roll your
own. My solution is attached below.

I guess there is no do_footer routine because the do_header routine
does the footers, too, at least in some circumstances. There happens
to be a supplied fancy header a2ps.hdr which also prints a footer. So,
here is a footer.hdr which just prints out the page numbers at the lower
right corner. That's all I wanted to do.

This gets really easy once you poke around in the hdr files supplied
with enscript. Just gotta know a little postscript, is all. The trick
is realizing that all the positions on the paper, eg., d_footer_x, are
generated by enscript. You just have to fool with the %Format strings
at the start of the hdr file to get the information you want to show n
the header. The more adventurous can fool with the graphical stuff in
the hdr file.

Then, when you invoke enscript, use this option:
  --fancy-header=footer

Joel

% footer.hdr modified from a2ps.
% -- code follows this line --
%Format: lowerpagestr   page $% of $=

%FooterHeight: 12

% Fonts.
/Helvetica /helvetica-encoded MF
/SmallFont /helvetica-encoded findfont 8 scalefont def
/a2ps_marg 10 def
/do_header {% print a2ps header
  gsave
% lowerpagestr
SmallFont setfont
d_footer_x d_footer_w add lowerpagestr stringwidth pop sub
a2ps_marg sub
d_footer_y moveto lowerpagestr show
  grestore
} def

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fmt: How to skip some text?

2003-09-27 Thread Joel Hammer
I want to use fmt in vi to format text, eg:
  :1,$ ! fmt -w 130

Without vi, this command would look like:
  cat file ! fmt -w 130

I want it to format everything except lines which begin with at least
two blanks, like this:

  1. My list 
 First
 Second
 Third

Is there anyway to do this with fmt? par? sed?
Thanks,
Joel

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Re: Displaying octal numbers in bash

2003-09-25 Thread Joel Hammer
This seems more work that it should be.

I did solve my problem with bc, but, there must be an easy way to get
bash to display octal.

Joel
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 06:35:18PM -0700, Tom Wekell wrote:
 
 Joel Hammer wrote:
  I understand that bash will do arithmetic in octal if you prefix the
  constant with 0. So:
  a=05
  b=017
  c=$((a*b))
  echo $c
  yields
  75
  This is the correct answer, but it is in decimals, not octals.
  Is there a way to make echo display octal?
  Thanks, 
  Joel
  
 
 More arithmetic?
 
 echo $((8#$c*1)) gives 61
 
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Underscores in Postscript fonts

2003-09-24 Thread Joel Hammer
Maybe I am just missing something obvious, but, is there an easy way to
get underscores in your typical postscript font, like Times-Roman?

Joel

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Re: The spammers are winning

2003-09-24 Thread Joel Hammer
There must be a sleezy lawyer somewhere who could sue SOMEBODY to get
these windows machines off the net. How about the ISP's who let these
things onto the internet? Maybe pass some tough pollution laws.

Joel

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Displaying octal numbers in bash

2003-09-24 Thread Joel Hammer
I understand that bash will do arithmetic in octal if you prefix the
constant with 0. So:
a=05
b=017
c=$((a*b))
echo $c
yields
75
This is the correct answer, but it is in decimals, not octals.
Is there a way to make echo display octal?
Thanks, 
Joel

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Re: email attack

2003-09-23 Thread Joel Hammer
I didn't see any info about it in your post.

My email these days consists almost entirely of worms, especially if
measure d in number of bytes, not number of individual letters. It is
really bad. Let's hear a round of applause for Bill Gates and his computer
revolution. The best thing is that MS, because of its awful software,
will now justify restrictions on computers which will help it kill of
even more of its competition.

Hmm Maybe there is a method to this madness.

Joel

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:46:52AM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 Ignore my other post/query on this. I was so busy deleting the 700 odd
 messages that I did not see this info about it...
 
 
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VIM question

2003-09-23 Thread Joel Hammer
Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the
help pages of vim and have learned a lot.

Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but

I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily.  However,
the command:
 :iabb SF 
fails with this error:
 {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command.
Any suggestions appreciated.

Joel

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Re: VIM question

2003-09-23 Thread Joel Hammer
Dud
Dumb mistakes.
First, the command should have been:
:iabb SF 
This still gives the error I mentioned below. I guess the reason is that
these abbreviations are just straight key strokes. Thus, 
key and this knocks the editor out of the insert mode. Dud...
So, using 2 instead of 0 (type crtl-V 2) as the esc key here seems to work.

This seems to be a solution:
:iabb SF font(Times-Roman8}
and then run enscript with:
enscript -e2 -ojunk.ps input.txt
I suppose this will cause some complications down the road.
Joel



On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:46:22PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the
 help pages of vim and have learned a lot.
 
 Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but
 
 I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily.  However,
 the command:
  :iabb SF 
 fails with this error:
  {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command.
 Any suggestions appreciated.
 
 Joel
 
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Re: VIM question:Solved

2003-09-23 Thread Joel Hammer
Finally read enuf to get the answer.

It's simple. You just need enuf cntrl-v's, how many seems to be a matter
of guessing. This works:

:iabb SF 
Entered with:
cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v  0 font{Times-Roman8} 
Yes, I think it takes seven cntrl-v's
Then, typing SF during insert mode gives:

 

I don't really understand this, but, it works. 

Joel



On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:26:08PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Dud
 Dumb mistakes.
 First, the command should have been:
 :iabb SF 
 This still gives the error I mentioned below. I guess the reason is that
 these abbreviations are just straight key strokes. Thus, 
 key and this knocks the editor out of the insert mode. Dud...
 So, using 2 instead of 0 (type crtl-V 2) as the esc key here seems to work.
 
 This seems to be a solution:
 :iabb SF font(Times-Roman8}
 and then run enscript with:
 enscript -e2 -ojunk.ps input.txt
 I suppose this will cause some complications down the road.
 Joel
 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:46:22PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
  Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the
  help pages of vim and have learned a lot.
  
  Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but
  
  I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily.  However,
  the command:
   :iabb SF 
  fails with this error:
   {font Times-Roman8} not an editor command.
  Any suggestions appreciated.
  
  Joel
  
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Re: VIM question:Solved

2003-09-23 Thread Joel Hammer
Hmmm...
It looks like email really doesn't handle the esc (0) character well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] got removed from the post below in several places.
Joel

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:54:35PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Finally read enuf to get the answer.
 
 It's simple. You just need enuf cntrl-v's, how many seems to be a matter
 of guessing. This works:
 
 :iabb SF   
 Entered with:
 cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v cntrl-v  0 font{Times-Roman8} 
 Yes, I think it takes seven cntrl-v's
 Then, typing SF during insert mode gives:
 
  
 
 I don't really understand this, but, it works. 
 
 Joel
 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:26:08PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
  Dud
  Dumb mistakes.
  First, the command should have been:
  :iabb SF 
  This still gives the error I mentioned below. I guess the reason is that
  these abbreviations are just straight key strokes. Thus, 
  key and this knocks the editor out of the insert mode. Dud...
  So, using 2 instead of 0 (type crtl-V 2) as the esc key here seems to work.
  
  This seems to be a solution:
  :iabb SF font(Times-Roman8}
  and then run enscript with:
  enscript -e2 -ojunk.ps input.txt
  I suppose this will cause some complications down the road.
  Joel
  
  
  
  On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:46:22PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
   Being offline has its benefits. I finally learned how to navigate the
   help pages of vim and have learned a lot.
   
   Once having learned vim, I'll never go back, but
   
   I'd like to get an abbreviation to change fonts easily.  However,
   the command:
:iabb SF 
   fails with this error:
{font Times-Roman8} not an editor command.
   Any suggestions appreciated.
   
   Joel
   
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Fetchmail error

2003-09-21 Thread Joel Hammer
I pop my mail off a server with fetchmail. Every now and then there
is a socket error while downloading an email. The transfer stops,
and nothing else gets downloaded. I have to log onto the mail server
manually with telnet to DELE the offending email. The really bad part
is that the emails I downloaded don't get erased off the server, since
fetchmail didn't finish fetching, and my mailbox out on the internet
gets filled up (5megs of storage is nothing considering the large bulk
of my email these days consists of security updates from MS.)

Has anyone seen this problem? Any quick fixes?

Thanks,
Joel

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Re: OT: Here we go again ...

2003-09-20 Thread Joel Hammer
Geez, they just arrested a Muslim army Chaplain (West Point Grad,
Asian American, studied in Syria), who worked with the Muslims held in
Cuba. They are seeing spies under every bed, now.

BTW, a big difference between WWII and now is that German Americans were
strongly and DEMONSTRABLY supportive of their American govt, unlike Muslim
(Arab) Americans today.  For example, when FDR railroaded some incompetent
German saboteurs to the electric chair, there was no outcry from German
Americans. They supported the action. Today, if the US Govt decided to
put to death a dozen Arabs for plotting industrial sabotage, after a
quick trial by a military tribunal, imagine the outcry from you know who.

You must realize that as a non-Muslim there is simply no reason not to kill
you, in the minds of many devout Muslims. For example, I was speaking to a
Pakistani female doctor recently. She said that there have been rare
times in the USA when her ethnicity has caused some hurt to her due to
discrimination. However, she said, if she went back to Pakistan with her
white husband (her words, not mine), he would likely be attacked and
killed on a public street. By, of course, people who consider themselves
good Muslims.

There are many millions of such good Muslims.

The inaction of the many other millions of Muslims who oppose violence
is puzzling.  I suspect they are taking the same sort of pragmatic
approach that the Swedes took in 1941. As the Swedish diplomat said,
if the English win, we are Democrats. If the Germans win, we are Aryans.

Think about that, next time you are angry over your government's efforts
to protect you.  You might be surprised at who your friends really are. For
example, a lot of 60's kids who grew up despising the pigs (You know
who you are.) came to rely upon the pigs for protection once they had
something to protect.

It is interesting to see how people, sometimes the same people, sing
different tunes, depending on the situation. For example, many critics of
Bush complain that Iraq may have freedom now, but what good is freedom
without security? This is often repeated, and given credence by many
prominent Americans. However, in this country, they complain about the
slightest infringement of civil liberties. It is even more interesting
that the infringements are especially irksome if carried out in the name
of national security. Infringements in the the name of some favored cause,
like conservation, campaign finance reform, diversity, abortion rights,
gun control, etc., are much more tolerable.

Just something to think about.

Joel
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Re: OT: Here we go again ...

2003-09-18 Thread Joel Hammer
It would be easy just to unload your MS stock. Apple, for example,
rose about 50% in the last several months. MS has been a laggard, and
promises to remain so. It is just too big to keep on growing.

Joel

On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:16:17AM -0400, dep wrote:
 quoth Matthew Carpenter:
 | They haven't drawn the conclusion that the initial outage was caused
 | by it, but there are reports (computerworld I believe) that MSBlast
 | was responsible for clogging the network pipe between power stations
 | used to avoid the cascading effect.  The cascade-avoidance system
 | simply couldn't do it's job...
 |
 | I agree that it probably STARTED there as well...
 
 and ultimately it's gonna come down something like this: a crack of a 
 major hospital or nuke plant is going to kill many or seriously 
 endanger millions. it will be due to microsoft software. there will be 
 an outraged response. what will the effect be?
 
 controls in the internet, probably. what it *won't* be is serious action 
 against microsoft, even though their stuff is not only demonstrably 
 dangerous but widely known to be dangerous. (the obvious corrective 
 action, of course, would be to ban permanent connection to the internet 
 of any machine running microsoftware.) there is no one to whom this is 
 a mystery. yet such action as has been taken against microsoft on any 
 point has been very weak. why? because the effects of a microsoft 
 collapse would certainly be vast and severe -- far worse than the 
 combined costs of all the attacks so far. microsoft is a very widely 
 held security. those of us who have company stock-based retirement 
 plans, 401ks, or any of a variety of mutual funds own microsoft stock. 
 it really is a big player economically.
 
 so dealing with the microsoft problem *must* include some way of dealing 
 with the substantial financial problem that handling the software 
 problem would entail. it's easy to say screw 'em, but that aintagonna 
 happen. it's a real mess.
 -- 
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Re: OT: Here we go again ...

2003-09-18 Thread Joel Hammer
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 09:34:28AM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote:
 You're scary.  Is this what Americans (US Citizens in this context)
 think of this Homeland Security thing?  If so, holy fsck.

I hope you got to see the photo posted recently on Powerline from 9/11
of the man falling, rather jumping, headfirst from a burning tower.

Now, that picture scares me. Of course, Hitler had the Reichstag fire,
but, I think the Trade Center was an attack by a hostile force and not,
as some claim, a phony attack planed by the CIA to justify abrogation
of our civil liberties. Since none of us really knows what is in the
Patriot Act (including those who voted for it), I am awaiting events
before I make any judgements.

Joel

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Re: OT: Here we go again ...

2003-09-18 Thread Joel Hammer
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:33:34PM -0700, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
 There have actually been a number of politicians who have suggested 
 we need to re-institute internment camps, just like we had in WWII.
 
 According to most historians, that was a pretty dark day in the US's 
 history, and here we have community leaders merrilly suggesting we 
 do it again.

Yes, but FDR, who signed the order, has become a big ICON in the American
memory, so, I guess it wasn't so bad. Earl Warren, also of great repute
among those who call themselves enlightened,  also had a hand in it.

I used to think this internment was pretty bad, too, but I recently read
some more and have had some second thoughts.  Basically, there was a
lot more going on than most people think today.

Some items:
 
1. Japan invaded multiple areas in the Pacific at the outset of the
war with the USA. Every place they went, there were agents in place,
sleepers, under the guise of legimate businessmen and the like. This
included such unlikely places as Guadalcanal. How could you prove there
were no agents among the Japanese-Americans? How much resources would have
been required to monitor the Japanese-Americans if they were left free?
Would that have impacted the war effort?  Everyday of the war a couple
of hundred men were killed or wounded, even if no major fighting was
going on. Ending the war a month sooner would have saved many American
(and many, many, other) lives.

2. I read a book writen by a PT boat captain in the Phillipines at the
outset of the war. The first day of the war their PT boat was immoblized.
When they took apart the engine they found someone had put sand into
the main fuel tank at their dock. I wonder who?

3. It is told to us that the Japanese only had one agent spying on the US
Fleet in Pearl Harbor prior to their attack. Now, this is ridiculous. The
entire Japanese war plan depended on neutralizing the US Fleet on
the first day of the war. If that failed, the entire Japanese plan of
expansion into the Pacific would have been impossible. Now, who thinks
that the Japanese, who planned their operations with meticulous care,
would have staked everything on one agent? And, who do you think helped
this Japanese spy to operate in Hiwaii? How did he manage to communicate
with Tokyo? Who gave him cover?

4. I have not heard or read of one person held in those interment camps
who was raped or murdered.  This is a great improvement over the record
of similar camps run by the Japanese govt.

BTW, the mistrust of the Japanese (and Japanese Americans) was so great in
the American government, that the entire effort at breaking the Japanese
military and diplomatic codes, which was a great success, was done
without any input from Japanese-Americans. That is, not a single native
speaker of Japanese was trusted to be involved with this effort. If such
an exclusion were done today against Arab Americans, there would be an
outcry, but, would security be compromised?

The US won the war against Japan, unconditionally.

Joel
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Re: OT: Here we go again ...

2003-09-17 Thread Joel Hammer
Wouldn't it be great if people starting saying, enuf is enuf.

Maybe if people whose computers were cracked and taken over by hackers
faced legal sanctions (fines, suspension of service, etc.), they would
take responsibility to fix up their boxes. Now, the lazy bones (or is
it brain dead?) windows users just sit and get hit like sitting ducks. I
guess they expect MS to protect them, even if they do nothing to protect
themselves.

I guess brain dead users are just to valuable to drive off the internet. 

Just like Scott Adams said, stupidity is the limitless energy supply of
the 21th century.

Joel

On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 10:38:44PM -0500, Michael Hipp wrote:
 http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030916/D7TJP93G0.html
 
 By TED BRIDIS
 
 WASHINGTON (AP) - Security researchers on Tuesday detected hackers 
 distributing software to break into computers using flaws announced last 
 week in some versions of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows operating system.
 
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Re: A contented linux user

2003-09-15 Thread Joel Hammer
 Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 08:52:37PM +0800, Chong Yu Meng wrote:
 Actually, I have to say that in certain cases, it *is* cheaper and even 
 more stable to run Microsoft than Linux or Solaris, or any kind of UNIX. 
 It's generally easier to find a Sys Admin who is familiar with Windows 
 than someone who is familiar with UNIX. You can't swing a dead cat in a 
 roomful of technical professionals without hitting a Windows person -- 
 in fact, probably everyone in the room is a Windows person, if you live 


Just thinking about this comment.

Our very large hospital system (5 hospitals) is an all windows shop,
except for systems bought from and maintained by outside vendors, like
a pathology or radiology system. All desktop OS's and software used by
individuals is MS. I believe our servers are also MS.

What this means is that almost nobody in our very large IS dept is
really a dedicated computer person. They are mostly retreads from
various departments like nursing or radiology who wanted to do something
different, so, they become analysts for IS. The attitude is that almost
anybody with just an interest in computers can learn to handle MS. These
are the people we are supposed to go to for computer problems and help.

As a result, we don't do anything interesting with computers. We
never capture the efficiencies promised by computerization because our
IS people don't know or care enough to find ways to actually make our
computers improve our performance. For example, in anatomic pathology,
we generate thousands of individual, descriptive  reports each year. This is
an area where an intelligently configured computer system could save time.
However, we still have the same number of secretaries we had before
computerization, despite the fact that our work load has fallen
substantially in the last 12 years. The computers we get and install
actually slow down the work, not speed things up. It is surprising how fast
a good secretary is with a typewriter. The computers put a greater work
load on the pathologists (an expensive resource!). The IS people haven't
a clue how to find ways to make the computers actually save us work.
Furthermore, they don't care. Management also is clueless. They think
having computers which slow you down is fine.

MS software can do a lot. I am very impressed by VBA and the new
script engines in windows. (We don't have a linux option in my place.) I
recently asked IS for help with visual basic. Nobody in IS knew visual
basic. The cheap IS people we hire don't even know how to use MS
software. That's why they are cheap.

So, having cheap IS people may look good on the IS budget, but, my
experience is that cheap IS people are very expensive. But, the losses
caused by such people appear on other people's budgets.

Joel






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Re: A contented linux user

2003-09-14 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 08:52:37PM +0800, Chong Yu Meng wrote:
 Actually, I have to say that in certain cases, it *is* cheaper and even 
 more stable to run Microsoft than Linux or Solaris, or any kind of UNIX. 
 It's generally easier to find a Sys Admin who is familiar with Windows 
 than someone who is familiar with UNIX. You can't swing a dead cat in a 
 roomful of technical professionals without hitting a Windows person -- 
 in fact, probably everyone in the room is a Windows person, if you live 
 in Singapore or any part of Southeast Asia. That person is more likely 
 to be able to setup a secure Windows server and apply patches all day 
 everyday (in fact, that's probably what he does, besides trying to chat 

I think Asia is a bit different from the USA. In Asia, as I understand
it, intellectual copyrights are not rigorously enforced. Does MS make
raids on businesses in Singapore to look for valid licenses? When MS
feels the pain (It made 16 billion last year, so no pain yet) it might
actually get a lot tougher on software pirates.

If MS software is free, it IS a good bargain and why not use it.
Upgrades costs will be minimal, too, so MS can't just gouge you as it
sees fit. Having to pay for software that others use for free is just
one more extra burden for American business. It seems odd that US based
firms don't sue MS for not enforcing its copyrights in Asia. That might
be a good class action suit!

 OT_RANTI can't help but compare this situation to the
 drug industry. We Americans pay more for pharmaceuticals
 because we respect copyright laws, whereas in Europe the
 governments are monoply buyers and threaten to make their
 own generics if the pharmaceutical companies don't meet
 their price. European drug companies are shifting their
 efforts to the United States, also.  This can't go on,
 and already Americans are finding out ways to buy cheaper
 drugs from Canada. This will of course lead to fundelmental
 changes in the pharmaceutical industry, that is to say,
 a lot less drug research and a lot fewer new drugs. If you
 don't think this is important, think about the improvements
 in drug therapy for heart disease and cancer in the last
 40 years.  Naturally, certain types of politicians paint
 the drugs companies as bad guys. In a democracy, people
 in the long run get what they deserve. /OT_RANT

Joel


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Re: A contented linux user

2003-09-13 Thread joel
There was a lot of correspondence generated by that essay.
It would be nice if all linux advocates bothered to learn to use correct 
English grammar and spelling, but, such is life.
Of more interest was the claim by one fellow that their switch to linux 
worked great until a couple of guys left who knew linux and then 
everything fell apart. He even claimed they got hit by viruses.
Now, how can viruses affect linux if you are running the boxes properly?
This one fellow sounded like he worked for a company that didn't have 
procedure manuals. In my place of work, a hospital, we have procedure 
manuals for every conceivable task.
IT SEEMS TO ME that MS is giving linux a great opening for at least 
three reasons:
1. MS is still expensive.
2. MS is still insecure.
3. MS is getting nonstandard. This isn't talked about much, but there 
are so many version of MS out  there (I still use Windows 95 for my 
desktop machine, works fine.) that windows is in danger of losing that 
which makes windows so desirable, standardization. There are even 
different versions of powerpoint for different versions of windows. This 
is not making MS look good. However, MS makes its money by selling 
software, and so it has to keep changing its software and forcing its 
users to upgrade, both software and hardware. MS generated 16 billion in 
free cash flow in the last 12 months. Their strategy is working fine. I 
guess people don't see that as excessive. However, imagine if linux 
could be understood by CEO's to offer a more stable and standard 
platform than windows.  Imagine, Mr. CEO, no more being forced to 
upgrade because MS needs more money. Upgrade only when you want to and 
can afford to. Sounds like a good sales pitch to me.
Joel

Collins Richey wrote:

Even though entitled with the eggregious GNU/linux moniker, this is a
really great article:
http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/12/1733209

What makes it even better, is the article is squeezed between Microsoft
ads chuckle.  

 

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Re: Logging of Mozilla pages

2003-09-08 Thread joel
 cat history.dat | sed -n s/\(^.*\)\(http[^);]*\)\(.*\)/\2/p

Of course, if they empty their history.dat file, this won't be of much help.
You could also run this through grep to weed out things like doubleclick 
and use the sort -u command to get rid of duplicates, etc.
Joel

Harry Giles wrote:

Is there a way to generate or retrieve a log of all web pages users on one 
computer have visited without logging on as that particular user?  I need 
to be able to print them out, and you can't do that from Mozilla directly 
anyway.

Perhaps a file in the .mozilla folder?

TIA

Harry Gils

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OT Linux now avaible in stores

2003-09-07 Thread Joel Hammer
I got this in the last few days from the CEO of Lindows. Just thought
I would pass it along. (See below.)

I know that there are those who don't think highly of lindows, but, they
can rest assured that they are not the target audience of lindows. Lindows
is targeting windows users.

I have been using lindows for a number of months. It more or less
delivers what it promises (An easy to use linux), although, I would
hesitate recommending any linux OS to a computer phobic person. I am
especially pleased by the browser, which works on almost all web sites
just like IE. (But, there are exceptions.) My major complaints are
the lack of easy support of PDA's, a relative dearth of games, and,
of course, it doesn't run MS software, aka the software the rest of the
world runs. Also, the fact that it encourages its users to run as root
continuously is not in the finest traditions of unix computing. But, I
guess when you are targeting windows users, there is no way around that.

The debian package management system, whether you use the warehouse or
just apt-get, is an eye opener to people who are used to using rpm and/or
compiling from source.

Joel

Michael's Minute:  Tipping Point - PC Club

Today, we announced that PC Club is now stocking LindowsOS computers on
store shelves in more than 50 stores. This marks the first time that
a retail chain has committed to desktop Linux by putting computers on...

PC Club is a personal computer retailer with stores primarily on the
West Coast that emphasize the best prices and great service 

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Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores

2003-09-07 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:42:22AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:

 Its fricking mozilla.  Its not like Lindows wrote their own or anything.

Yes, of course it is mozilla, but, it is configured to work.
For example, no font problems, and plugins work as expected.
Joel


On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:42:22AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 Its fricking mozilla.  Its not like Lindows wrote their own or anything.
 
 
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Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores

2003-09-07 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:40:58AM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
 
 I've been leery of Lindows since reading that they run everything
 as root.  If that's true, it's no more secure than the average
 Windows box.
 

Yes, but, you can easily add a regular user, just like with any linux
distro. Using root as the usual user is just laziness or ignorance (I
plead laziness!). 

The only reason that root is more convenient is to use the warehouse
without additional passwords required. I haven't tried installing
software from the warehouse as a regular user. That might be a problem,
and, since adding software is a not an uncommon activity (since lindows
comes without much installed, you use the warehouse a lot in the first
few weeks of using lindows), using root as your usual user is an easy
habit to get into.

Well, I DON'T read my email as root.

Joel


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Re: Comcast looking for competent SysAdmins?

2003-09-06 Thread Joel Hammer
Its not just spam. I am on comcast and I still log endless code red and
other nasties trying to attack web servers, and almost every originating
IP is from comcast.

Joel
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:12:17PM -0600, Andrew Mathews wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 rant
 As of today's count, Comcast now has 1783 ip addresses that I've
 automatically blocked for being a spam source in the last week. These
 people have got to qualify for the #1 $LUSER and having a totally fscked
 up system. I have NO sympathy for anyone whose email is blocked because
 they use these arseholes for an isp. No, I WON'T accept 800+ spam
 messages a day to receive a couple from legitimate people.
 /rant
 
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 Give your very best today.  Heaven knows it's little enough.
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OT Netgear ethernet switch froze

2003-09-06 Thread Joel Hammer
This morning my internal network was down. The problem was the netgear
switch box. It was accepting signals but not transferring them to
recipients.  Unplugging it and plugging it back in solved the problem.

Does this have any ominous portents?

Joel


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OT Who is Be ?

2003-09-06 Thread joel
This in today's online Wall Street Journal.
Who was Be, Inc. ?
What did MS actually do?
This settlement sounds pathetic, and another victory for MS.
Joel


Microsoft and Be Inc. Reach
Settlement in Antitrust Suit
*Associated Press*

SEATTLE -- *Microsoft* Corp. agreed Friday to pay $23.3 million to Be 
Inc. to settle an antitrust lawsuit that claimed the software giant 
negotiated deals with computer makers that cut out the smaller company's 
competing operating system.

Microsoft admits no wrongdoing under the settlement. The company did not 
disclose further details.

The lawsuit, filed in February 2002, is one of four private antitrust 
suits brought against Microsoft after a federal judge's ruling that 
Microsoft had acted as an illegal monopoly based on its dominance in 
desktop operating systems.

Redmond-based Microsoft resolved one of the private cases in May, 
agreeing to pay *AOL Time Warner* $750 million to settle its private 
antitrust lawsuit on behalf of AOL's Netscape division. The other two, 
filed by *Sun Microsystems* and Burst.com, remain in pretrial 
proceedings in federal court in Maryland.

Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler declined to say whether the company is in 
settlement discussions with either party.

Microsoft also faces another 12 state class-action antitrust lawsuits 
filed on behalf of consumers.

Be, based in Mountain View, Calif., contended that Microsoft violated 
California and federal antitrust laws by negotiating deals with computer 
manufacturers to use Microsoft's operating system exclusively, cutting 
out Be's competing operating system. Be is in the process of shutting 
down its business under a dissolution plan approved by its shareholders 
in 2001.

Microsoft contended that Be failed for reasons unrelated to Microsoft.

While we believe we would have ultimately prevailed in this case, 
Microsoft is very pleased to settle this lawsuit, Microsoft general 
counsel Brad Smith said in a statement.

Be's president, Dan Johnston, did not immediately return a call seeking 
comment Friday evening.

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Re: OT Netgear ethernet switch froze

2003-09-06 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:46:25PM -0400, burns wrote:
 Have you updated the firmware in your Netgear lately? I have a RP614
No. I didn't know it could be updated.
Joel
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Re: Enscript question: Making page colored

2003-09-02 Thread joel
I hope you found it useful.

A knowledge of enscript and postscript have been very helpful to me in 
various situations, like printer problems and formatting problems. 
Knowing postscript is like knowing html. There are editors around to 
generate html for you, but, getting under the hood is important.
Joel

Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Joel Hammer:
 

\shade{val}
 

I tried this and didn't quite get what I wanted. So, I went back to
   

I'm not surprised. No Postscript coder am I.

 

basics (really) and read the first chapter about postscript again and
then looked at the postscript which enscript generates. There is a Box
routine generated in enscript's standard postscript output, so, this text
file gives a nice blue page on which are displayed two small pictures
(jpg's) side by side (converted to encapsulated postscript by convert).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1 setrgbcolor 5 5 500 760 Box fill grestore}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] n ]{junk1.epsi}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] x3i y-1]{junk2.epsi}
   

Excellent stuff, Joel. Thanks!

 

enscript is run with this command:

enscript -o junk.ps junk.txt -e 

If you want to get this to work, of course, you have to generate the
control code for zero, not the two characters [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my keyboard [cntrl v][0]
(followed by your next character or space) works. At least in vi in insert
mode.
   

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
 If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should
 probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this
 brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use.

I have built numerous kernels on this machine. It was simpler in
the old days.  I didn't run mrproper because I had to use all the
configuration settings of my old kernel. My old kernel is a win4lin
patched thingee. I would gladly buy a windows computer before I installed
win4lin again.

Joel

 Doesn't eDesktop 2.4 use grub?

I have always used lilo with this Caldera 2.4 box.

Joel

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:50:51PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
  recompiled it how?  what did you change from the last kernel?
 
 I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make
 dep make clean make bzImage.
 
 If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should
 probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this
 brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use.
 
 I shoulda saved an old copy of the kernel. I rebooted without trouble
 after running lilo.conf, but the second reboot I got a hard drive error.
 
 Doesn't eDesktop 2.4 use grub?
 
 Bill
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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, I finally got the thing to reboot, and the newly compiled kernel 
is running, and I get the exact same error from the nvidia install 
script. It claims the compiler I used to compile the kernel is different 
from the one I am compiling the kernel module for the nvidia driver. 
I'll never know because I have no way of knowing which compiler the 
install script is using.

After running the install script, if I try to start KDM I get a missing 
kernel module. Luckily, rebooting solves this problem.
Now, I haven't recompiled all my modules with the new compiler. Things 
are working so why push it.
Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore the 
compiler difference,  it looks like I will have to find an older video 
card for this box. Maybe ebay.

Joel

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
My problem, according to the nvidia install script, is that I used a 
different compiler to make the kernel than I was using to compile the 
kernel module for the driver.
I compiled this kernel about two years ago and since then I tried to 
update glibc (never again) and I suspect I updated the compiler at some 
time, too.
So, I just recompiled my kernel with the current compiler. Luckily the 
.config was the same. That was supposed to have made things better, but, 
there was no change. Same error when I tried to compile the kernel module.
Joel

Net Llama! wrote:

On 08/31/03 15:43, Joel Hammer wrote:

recompiled it how? what did you change from the last kernel?


I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make


If you didn't change anything, then how would the original problem be 
resolved?? Does your kernel have any AGP support?






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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread joel
Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this.
The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is 
using.
Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc?
I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. 
Nothing else.
Joel

Ken Moffat wrote:

Joel Hammer wrote:

 
Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore 
the compiler difference,  it looks like I will have to find an older 
video card for this box. Maybe ebay.

Joel


Are all these problems from the nvidia*.run script? I had no problems 
on a couple of machines here running geforce4 cards.

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Good idea.
which `gcc` returns:
/usr/local/bin/gcc
and 
file `which gcc`
shows a binary file.
strings `which gcc` shows version 2.95.3, which is what I think I
am using.

I went the extra step and recompiled my modules and make'd
modules_install.  However, depmod wouldn't work, never has on this
machine.

I still get the same error when I try to compile the NV kernel module,
the NV install script complaining about the compiler version being
different from the one used to compile the running kernel.
uname -a show the newly compiled kernel is running.

I would put this card into another computer (one of my lindows boxes,
for example) but those kernels come precompiled and there is little
chance the compiler I have downloaded was used to compile those kernels.

So, until I can find which Makefile into which I have to insert the
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive, I appear to be stuck.

Joel

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 07:20:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote:
 joel wrote:
 
  Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this.
  The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is 
  using.
  Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc?
  I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. 
  Nothing else.
  Joel
 
 
 Generally gcc is a link to gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.2 or 3.3. If you
 ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
 you'll see what's there to choose from. You can change the link to point 
 to a different version.
 
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insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiled for

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress.  I found
that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves
everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever.

I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH
directive.

I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end
where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things
went to completion.

When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed
in the title of this letter.

I am stumped for now.

Any suggestions welcome.

Joel




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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor:SOLVED

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Fudgettaboutit.

I hunted around a bit and found a module in /lib/modules/.../video  that was
placed there by the nvidia installer script. I insmod'ed that one and
it worked. I had been trying to insmod a likely sounding module placed
in the target directory by the installer.

 PROBLEM SOLVED

My Gforce FX 5200 is looking good.

It took only about 6 to 8 hours to get this card installed.

Doom and quake look great.  Now that I understand what I am doing with
this thang, I may get a couple of more for my lindows boxes. Nvidia
deserves a lot of respect and support from linux users.

Now, of course, the question arises, do I have to do this all for the other
kernels I boot on this machine? I'll have to find out someday.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Joel


On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:57:43AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
 This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress.  I found
 that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves
 everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever.
 
 I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the
 IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH
 directive.
 
 I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end
 where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things
 went to completion.
 
 When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed
 in the title of this letter.
 
 I am stumped for now.
 
 Any suggestions welcome.
 
 Joel
 
 
 
 
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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
I am using 2.4.5-win4lin.

Joel

On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:18:01AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 Out of sheer curiosity, which kernel version are you using?
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Re: More SCO Humor

2003-09-01 Thread joel
Well, there is an obvious solution. It would require a lot of plumbing, 
though. But, it works well enuf for chickens in cages.

Joel

Tom Condon wrote:

Which solves both the speed problem and the drug testing 
problem at once.  This looks distinctly like Sundstrand when 
I worked there.  You get in 5 minutes of real work, then you 
start heading for the can.  By the time you get back to your 
desk you can work for another 5 minutes before it is time 
to start out again...  ;-})  And then they wonder why you 
don't get enough work done for the optimistic schedule they 
sold to the customers.



 

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Re: OT Why Microsoft has to go ...

2003-08-31 Thread joel
If the corporation goes bankrupt, somebody gets to keep the assets. The 
patents are still valid.  Any company that tried to steal their 
technology could be sued.

Joel

burns wrote:

On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 21:12, joel wrote:
 

Well, not much really happened in court. Just some lost emails.
What seems fishy is:
1. The author says you lose your patents if you go bankrupt. Individuals 
can keep patents. If the corporation was in danger of going bankrupt, 
why couldn't they sell the patents or assign them to officers of the 
corporation as compensation, etc. Losing patents on technology you have 
spent $$ on just because the company goes bankrupt doesn't seem right.
   

Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of
the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the
creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance.
 

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Gimp: Opening files with long path names

2003-08-31 Thread joel
With my current version of gimp (1.3),  when you try to open a file, the 
default directory is always ~/My Documents
This means that if you are working with files in a directory with a long 
path name, like:
~/Network/HAMMER10/public/disks/hdc5/Pictures/MaineVac
you have to work your way through the whole directory structure to open 
one file. Opening a second file in the same directory makes you walk 
through the whole file structure again. That is, Gimp doesn't seem to 
remember the last directory you were working in.
I cannot find any configuration file for gimp which would change this 
behavior.
cd ~/.gimp-1.3
find . | grep Documents
shows nothing of interest.
Doing the same thing in /etc/gimp/1.3 shows nothing.
The command for starting gimp (gimp-1.3) is not a script, but the binary 
itself, so nothing to tweak there.
However,
strings gimp-1.3 | grep Documents   shows this:
~/My Documents/
So, it looks like they have compiled this directory into the binary.
If you go to the directory with the file browser and click on it, this 
saves walking repeatedly through the file structure, but, you have to 
choose each time if you want to open with gimp-1.3 or gimp-remote-1.3, 
not very convenient.
I could edit the binary to point to a symbolic link, but that seems 
excessive.
Any insights appreciated.
Joel
P.S. Please don't suggest getting the source and recompiling. I am 
really into this Debian thing. apt-get install is habit forming.





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Video card

2003-08-31 Thread joel
Any recommendations for a video card. I play games occasionally.
Thanks,
Joel
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Re: Video card

2003-08-31 Thread joel
Well, I went and bought a GforceFX 5200. It is a 128MB DDR AGP card. I 
know nothing abut AGP.
I put the card into my computer (an updated Caldera 2.4), took some 
guesses with the BIOS (made the aperture 128 and enabled read and write, 
whatever that is in the AGP setup section), and rebooted. The bios 
recognized the card at boot. But, X won't start.

I went to the Nvidia page and got the linuxia32 driver. When I ran it, 
it complained that it had to compile a kernel interface, and tried to do 
it, but then complained that the compiler used for the kernel was not 
the same compiler I have now installed .
It suggested I set IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to get by this problem.
My problem is now, where do I set this directive? I can't figure out 
where the make'ing is going on so I don't know where the Makefile would be.
(I tried to fiddle with the install script, but that changed the 
checksum, so, after I tweaked  that, I get an md5sum error. Well, time 
to download again.)
Thanks,
Joel







joel wrote:

Any recommendations for a video card. I play games occasionally.
Thanks,
Joel
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Re: Video card

2003-08-31 Thread joel
Hmmm...
I recompiled the kernel, and I get the same error.
Could the nvidia installer be finding an old compiler?
I can't find out what nvidia is doing with the install  script because 
any attempt to modify it causes an integrity error and it won't run.
Well, I have to mow the lawn.
Joel

joel wrote:

Well, I went and bought a GforceFX 5200. It is a 128MB DDR AGP card. I 
know nothing abut AGP.
I put the card into my computer (an updated Caldera 2.4), took some 
guesses with the BIOS (made the aperture 128 and enabled read and 
write, whatever that is in the AGP setup section), and rebooted. The 
bios recognized the card at boot. But, X won't start.

I went to the Nvidia page and got the linuxia32 driver. When I ran it, 
it complained that it had to compile a kernel interface, and tried to 
do it, but then complained that the compiler used for the kernel was 
not the same compiler I have now installed .
It suggested I set IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to get by this problem.
My problem is now, where do I set this directive? I can't figure out 
where the make'ing is going on so I don't know where the Makefile 
would be.
(I tried to fiddle with the install script, but that changed the 
checksum, so, after I tweaked  that, I get an md5sum error. Well, time 
to download again.)
Thanks,
Joel







joel wrote:

Any recommendations for a video card. I play games occasionally.
Thanks,
Joel
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Re: Video card

2003-08-31 Thread Joel Hammer
 recompiled it how?  what did you change from the last kernel?

I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make
dep make clean make bzImage.

I shoulda saved an old copy of the kernel. I rebooted without trouble
after running lilo.conf, but the second reboot I got a hard drive error.

This story is developing.

Joel

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:31:01PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 08/31/03 14:19, joel wrote:
 
  Hmmm...
  I recompiled the kernel, and I get the same error.
 
 recompiled it how?  what did you change from the last kernel?
 
  Could the nvidia installer be finding an old compiler?
  I can't find out what nvidia is doing with the install  script because 
  any attempt to modify it causes an integrity error and it won't run.
  Well, I have to mow the lawn.
 
 
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Re: Enscript question: Making page colored

2003-08-30 Thread Joel Hammer
 \shade{val}

I tried this and didn't quite get what I wanted. So, I went back to
basics (really) and read the first chapter about postscript again and
then looked at the postscript which enscript generates. There is a Box
routine generated in enscript's standard postscript output, so, this text
file gives a nice blue page on which are displayed two small pictures
(jpg's) side by side (converted to encapsulated postscript by convert).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1 setrgbcolor 5 5 500 760 Box fill grestore}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] n ]{junk1.epsi}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] x3i y-1]{junk2.epsi}

enscript is run with this command:

enscript -o junk.ps junk.txt -e 

If you want to get this to work, of course, you have to generate the
control code for zero, not the two characters [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my keyboard [cntrl 
v][0]
(followed by your next character or space) works. At least in vi in insert
mode.


Joel


On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 11:29:02PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth Joel Hammer:
  Does anyone know a way to make enscript produce output with the entire
  page colored, not just the text background?
 
 Add 
 
 
 to the top of the document, where val is a decimal value between
 0 and 1. Then, invoke enscript as
 
 $ enscript -e\\ foo -o foo.ps
 
 That gives you a shaded background, but I couldn't make the text
 visible.
 
  Enscript will take raw postscript. Is there a way to make postscript make
  the whole page a particular color?
 
 Kurt
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Fonts small with X :1 -query host

2003-08-30 Thread Joel Hammer
Using lindows 4.0.
I am really rusty on X and hope not to have to spend a lot of time on this
issue.
I have set up kdmrc to allow XDMCP requests, and changed Xaccess and things
work.
However, the fonts are much smaller in kde when started up via an XDMCP
request than when kde just starts up in the regular way.
So, is there some easy tweak to fix this?
Thanks,
Joel
  
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Re: devfs - interesting news

2003-08-29 Thread Joel Hammer
This brings up the question. How did devfs get into the kernel with only
one maintainer?

And, can we avoid its replacement and just go back to the bad old days?

I believe lindows came precompiled with devfs, and of course, I wouldn't
dream of compiling a lindows kernel without devfs, even if I could get
the thing to compile, which I can't.

Joel

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:36:44PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth Collins Richey:
  As posted on the gentoo home page:
  
  Devfs was declared obsolete today in the 2.6-test kernel!?!
 
 On 16 August. The maintainer has vanished, or at least ceased 
 responding to email: 
 
 http://lwn.net/Articles/44731/
 
 Kurt
 -- 
 Life is like an onion: you peel off layer after layer, then you find
 there is nothing in it.
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Enscript question: Making page colored

2003-08-29 Thread Joel Hammer
Does anyone know a way to make enscript produce output with the entire
page colored, not just the text background?

Enscript will take raw postscript. Is there a way to make postscript make
the whole page a particular color?

Thanks,
Joel

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OT VBscript in html: Security threat?

2003-08-28 Thread Joel Hammer
I see that vbscript can be embedded in html.

Javascript was written to make it very hard to attack the client computer,
whereas vbscript doesn't have these safeguards built in, does it? VBscript
can do a lot of stuff, like write to your hard drive and run windows
software.  It really is a beaut.

It would seem like child's play to encode malicious things in vbscript
and let the IE users get whacked.  If IE somehow was protected against
running this program, it would be easy to make a vbscript a payload
(cool screen saver!) and then have the unlucky user click on it and run it.

What am I missing?

Who in his right mind would use vbscript over javascript in their html,
anyway? Why would you keep out anyone not using IE and a modern version
of windows? (Let me guess. People who use MS development products.)

Thanks,
Joel
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Re: Apache setup help

2003-08-27 Thread Joel Hammer
Just how are you serving up this document to your browser?
Is Apache actually doing it?
Have you put a file named index.html into the root directory? 
What is your root directory?
Is your document valid html?
Joel

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 03:49:44PM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
 James McDonald wrote:
  sheesh ummm not real sure but here is my httpd.conf
 
 Thanks.  This is a bit more info than I needed.  Apache comes with a sample
 .conf file that looks a lot like this one.  It is complicated enough,
 though, that I'd be better off reading the book first so I'll understand the
 options I'm selecting.  Quick perusal doesn't show anything obvious to
 prevent html interpretation, though.
 
 
 In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,
 
 Tom  :-})
 
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Helper applications in mozilla-1.3

2003-08-26 Thread Joel Hammer
Using lindows 4.0.

In mozilla, if I edit helper applications, nothing seems to happen. That is
to say, if I change the application for jpeg's to save to file or some other
program besides kview, it still opens up in the browser. The mimetype file
in ~/.mozilla/(and so one) is updated.

Any insight appreciated,

Joel


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Re: Helper applications in mozilla-1.3

2003-08-26 Thread Joel Hammer
My other lindows computer 4.0 works without a glich or hitch.
Joel

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:11:45PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 08/25/03 18:11, Joel Hammer wrote:
  Using lindows 4.0.
  
  In mozilla, if I edit helper applications, nothing seems to happen. That is
  to say, if I change the application for jpeg's to save to file or some other
  program besides kview, it still opens up in the browser. The mimetype file
  in ~/.mozilla/(and so one) is updated.
  
  Any insight appreciated,
 
 options:
 a) don't use the broken lindows version of mozilla.
 b) complain to lindows support
 
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Xine slow to start up while probing hardware

2003-08-24 Thread Joel Hammer
xine seems to be working but:
When I issue the command xine, I get a long delay while it probes the audio
hardware.
This is what I see.

xine *asx

This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.21
(c) 2000-2003 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team.
Built with xine library 1.0.0 (1-beta12)
Found xine library version: 1.0.0 (1-beta12).
XServer Vendor: The XFree86 Project, Inc. Release: 40201001,
Protocol Version: 11, Revision: 0,
Available Screen(s): 1, using 0
Depth: 16.
XShmQueryVersion: 1.1.
-[ xiTK version 0.10.3 ]-
-[ xiTK will use XShm ]-
-[ WM type: (EWMH) KWIN {KWin} ]-
Display is not using Xinerama.
main: probing xshm video output plugin

main: probing alsa audio output plugin ---DELAY IS HERE

xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
video_out_xshm: tried to get unsupported property 2
video_out_xshm: tried to set unsupported property 2
video_out_xshm: tried to get unsupported property 2
Playlist file (082203_5_iraq1.asx) is valid (ASX3).
libmms: stream id 1, bitrate 20362
libmms: audio stream 1, video stream 0


This delay is a minute or so. Any insight appreciated.

Joel


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windows = virii

2003-08-22 Thread Joel Hammer
I got fed up with the large number of notifications of viruses in my email
so I consigned all my samba forum (Windows users by definition)  mail
to dev/null (procmail is good for something.) I have stopped getting
these silly emails full of virii.

So, I guess we know whose machines are infected.

Geez. Its a good thing for MS that there doesn't appear to be product
liablity laws for computer software as you would have with other
products. Otherwise, MS windows might be held responsible for the costs
incurred by these virii. Now, why doesn't some law class look into suing
MS for this?

Joel

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Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread Joel Hammer
Here is what I get with the various suggestions:
hammer11:~# uname -a
Linux hammer11 2.4.20 #1 Thu Jun 19 14:13:55 PDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux

hammer11:~# date
Thu Aug 21 22:25:02 EDT 2003

hammer11:~# date
Thu Aug 21 22:25:20 EDT 2003

hammer11:~# hwclock --show
Thu Aug 21 22:25:31 2003  -0.431234 seconds

hammer11:~# cat /etc/adjtime
-0.000528 1061518802 0.00
1061518802
LOCAL

My bios is set to local time. When I change it to UTC, the system sets it
back to the local time either when starting up or shutting down.
So, unless I want to get involved in those scripts (which I don't) this  box
is staying on local time.

Well, got THAT question answered. Onward.

Joel

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