Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread Myles Green

David,
sorry for getting back to you so late, was away for a few days...

comments below

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:27:01 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  BTW, how did you set up your sound? If you haven't done this yet you
  might want to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to uncomment your sound card
 and
 
 Well in /usr/src/linux/Doc...n/sound I discovered which driver
 supported 
 my sound card and modprobed it into the kernel.

you did this from a command line? any errors? what sound card is this
again?
 
 I then added a line for it to rc.modules, b/c even a commented out one
 did 
 not already exist, although the module was available.

OK but you might need to modify how you entered it (IRQ/DMA etc)
 
  then either modprobe the sound module or reboot. Are you running the
  stock kernel? If so which version 2.2.19 or 2.4.5?
 
 Still running stock 2.2.19 (never noticed the option to go 2.4.5 when
 setting 
 up slackware although it apparently was there) lol, I seem to keep
 procrastinating on learning the art of kernel compilation.

it's not that bad, really, if you have a few hours to spend. just
remember to keep a copy of a working kernel, it's System.map and it's
modules directory around in case you mess things up - even if you don't
you can still boot from either the install floppy/CD or the emergency
boot disk you made during installation and repair things if need be.

hint: in slackware 8, if you replace 'make bzImage' (when you get to
that step) with 'make bzlilo', it moves your old kernel to vmlinuz.old
for you (along with System.old), then all you need to do is modify
/etc/lilo to point to it before you do the 'make bzlilo', it will run
/sbin/lilo for you when it's done.

--- from /etc/lilo.conf ---

image = /vmlinuz.old
label   = old_kernel
root= /dev/hda1
vga = normal
read-only

--- end snip ---

HTH

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Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger

2001-08-08 Thread Andrew Mathews

 Anthony Joshua Brow wrote:
 
 
 
 G'day Ladies/Gents,
 
 Ref above, are there any Mandrake -Linux users among you ?
 As a newbie I 'am having trouble to get the 'messenger' for emails
 installed. When I click on the email grafic on the bottom of the
 Netscape window
 the machine tells me : Default in box folder doe not exist and that
 I cannot receive or send any email
 I managed to install netscape 4.77 and the web browsing is working
 allright.
 I used the mandrake-Linux site and their install demos, as well as the
 SxS. (Icannot help it, but I'am partial to Netscape).
 I could not work out the SxS suggestion as I'm not sure if this is for
 this Mandrake-Linux 8.0
 I enjoyed installing this M-Linux, but there is still a lot to learn
 
 Thank you in advance
 
 Tony Brow (joshua)

Try the following and tell us what it shows. cd to your home directory
and do an ls -l | grep nsmail which should show something like mine:
drwx--   5 andy users2048 Aug  7 23:39 nsmail
Next cd nsmail and do an ls -l which should show something like:
-rw---   1 andy users2249 Aug  8 00:20 Inbox
If there is no Inbox do touch Inbox then chmod a+rw Inbox then fire
up Messenger again. The error should go away. If there's anything
different report back with what yours shows.
-- 
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 12:20am  up 2 days,  3:59,  3 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.01

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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 04:43, Richard Thompson wrote:
 I've been having a recurring problem accessing the internet on my eD2.4
 box.   I dial up and get a network connection just fine - only no data

[snip]

without knowing wich dialler you are using kppp? it's hard to go further.

you are _probably_ not setting the default route (or allowing the program you 
use, to do so). You have different ip numbers assigned to you depending on 
your login. The work account, is _probably_ a fixed one and you have 
hardwired the gateway, to it.

if you're using kppp (for instance)

setup-(account)-edit-Gateway assign ip address to gateway is first port 
of call.


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Re: adding codepage

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 13:31, Linuxism Chang wrote:
 I suspect that caldera edesktop 2.4 didn't include codepage 950
 and iocharset 950. any SxS for adding codepages to linux?

it _should_ be in

/lib/modules/2.4.x/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp950.o 

simply? modprobe nls_cp950

if it aint there. recompile your kernel.


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Re: SOLVED [WAS: Re: C++ compiler cannot create executables ]

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 15:55, Net Llama wrote:
 User error strikes again.  Turns out that this had nothing to do with
 libstdc++.so.  I still had the old version of /usr/bin/c++ with the
 newer version of the libs.  So the older c++ binary was looking for the
 older libs and not finding them.  I rebuilt the SRPM for gcc, and then
 installed the g++ RPM.  Problem fixed.

Gee, I'm *so* glad I could help!

slap

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

I think so, AFAIK, ms products run pdf's without challenge. I have acrobat 5 
and it opens fully when I click a pdf file. I use pdf's quite a bit and it  
concerns me that if this gets more work and wider spread that anyone with 
acrobat will be extremely vulnerable to a system attack. Also that its 
possible that with more work that even on the linux side someone could get 
code to execute when the plugin is run to open the pdf file.

Ronnie

On Tuesday 07 August 2001 20:56, you wrote:
 it uses the PDF extension only so that file association could
 get the script executed...right?

 Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
  not sure if this is real but it sounds like it is.
 
  http://www.coderz.net/zulu/outlook.pdfworm.txt

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gateway to Gateway protocol

2001-08-08 Thread Zoki (News)

Hello Everybody,

After having tested a lot of new distributions and Windows2000 I'm back in
business with a working Linux workstation. The last 2 months have been
terrible as I was more or less stuck with a w2k PC I had to use and Linux
testing that was a mess. It's a major pain to be forced to look for a new
alternative after having had a working setup tweaked to the upmost to fit
my needs. On top of it some new distributions should really spend a few
weekends looking at what they're releaseing and not get blinded by all the
success and green bills people are waving at them.

I haven't been able to stick my nose into Debian but would like to find
out more about it. Anybody on the list using it everyday!??

OK, now to the question: Could somebody explain me what the
gateway-to-gateway protocol is about (/etc/protocols = 3) and what is
causing the following logs:

Aug  8 08:50:38 wall kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=1
195.132.181.80:3 195.55.190.134:3 L=96 S=0xC0 I=28405 F=0x T=255 (#76)

Zoran.

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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 17:43, Keith Antoine wrote:
 I have a usb compactflash card reader which I have used in windows and I
 have just recompiled a kernel (2.4.7) which also sees it in linux.

[snip]

go here

http://jphoto.sourceforge.net

go here

http://www.linux-usb.org/devices.html


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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread David Aikema

On August 7, 2001 11:30 pm, Myles Green wrote:

 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   BTW, how did you set up your sound? If you haven't done this yet you
   might want to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to uncomment your sound card
 
  and
 
  Well in /usr/src/linux/Doc...n/sound I discovered which driver
  supported
  my sound card and modprobed it into the kernel.

 you did this from a command line? any errors? what sound card is this
 again?

  I then added a line for it to rc.modules, b/c even a commented out one
  did
  not already exist, although the module was available.

 OK but you might need to modify how you entered it (IRQ/DMA etc)

Well the card seems to work in realplayer, xmms, play, etc basically 
anything that doesn't use artsd

 hint: in slackware 8, if you replace 'make bzImage' (when you get to
 that step) with 'make bzlilo', it moves your old kernel to vmlinuz.old
 for you (along with System.old), then all you need to do is modify
 /etc/lilo to point to it before you do the 'make bzlilo', it will run
 /sbin/lilo for you when it's done.

 --- from /etc/lilo.conf ---

 image = /vmlinuz.old
   label   = old_kernel
   root= /dev/hda1
   vga = normal
   read-only

 --- end snip ---

Thanks for the tips.  I wouldn't have to somehow specify the location of the 
old system.map in the lilo config would I?

David Aikema
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are these errors related?

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

Aug  8 13:34:16 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 87ec
Aug  8 13:34:24 server last message repeated 2 times
Aug  8 13:49:00 server -- MARK --
Aug  8 14:06:28 server kernel: Packet log:
input REJECT ppp0 PROTO=6 200.33.34.3
:111 203.218.124.162:111 L=40 S=0x00 I=50431 F=0x T=242 SYN (#39)
Aug  8 14:09:31 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 23de
Aug  8 14:09:40 server last message repeated 2 times
Aug  8 14:28:06 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 84ed
Aug  8 14:28:12 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 84ed
Aug  8 14:28:52 server named[446]: Cleaned cache of 5 RRsets
Aug  8 14:49:00 server -- MARK --
Aug  8 15:09:00 server -- MARK --
Aug  8 15:28:52 server named[446]: Cleaned cache of 0 RRsets
Aug  8 15:37:07 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 28df
Aug  8 15:37:16 server last message repeated 2 times
Aug  8 15:45:37 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 6bec
Aug  8 15:59:44 server pppoe[18378]: Bad TCP checksum 87ec
Aug  8 15:59:53 server last message repeated 2 times




Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread David Aikema

On August 8, 2001 01:08 am, Myles Green wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:43:34 -0700

 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 some reason) typed in rather than doing a CP. just goes to show that
 you're better to copy and paste than hand type things... especially when
 you're getting tired. sorry 'bout that!

If you think that's bad you should see what I've been like these past couple 
days.  Absentminded and forgetful in an extreme way.

David Aikema
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Re: SOLVED [WAS: Re: C++ compiler cannot create executables ]

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

If I upgrade edesktop 2.4's glibc without
updating the gcc compiler,
will I got the same error?

Net Llama wrote:
 User error strikes again.  Turns out that this had nothing to do with
 libstdc++.so.  I still had the old version of /usr/bin/c++ with the
 newer version of the libs.  So the older c++ binary was looking for the
 older libs and not finding them.  I rebuilt the SRPM for gcc, and then
 installed the g++ RPM.  Problem fixed.


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Re: adding codepage

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

oh no.. it's really not there edesktop 2.4
does 2.2.14 kernel have chinese language support
by default? or was it caldera who stripped it out?

 /lib/modules/2.4.x/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp950.o 
 simply? modprobe nls_cp950
 if it aint there. recompile your kernel.


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ipop3d in edesktop 2.4

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

what's the name of daemon? any homepage for that product?

which .conf file controls whether root could collect email
from a remote workstation? /etc/securetty? not likely...

I want to download the meail for root from my Window$'s mozilla
over pop3. It didn't allow me to login as root.


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External CD-RW question

2001-08-08 Thread Trevor Stuart

I have an external HP CD-RW attached to a parallel port.
It works under M$ but I'm wanting to move to a linux only environment.
So, how do I set this up under linux?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Trevor Stuart


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Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger

2001-08-08 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:08:19 +1000
Anthony Joshua Brow [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

AB 
AB 
AB 
AB G'day Ladies/Gents,
AB 
AB Ref above, are there any Mandrake -Linux users among you ?
AB As a newbie I 'am having trouble to get the 'messenger' for emails
AB installed. When I click on the email grafic on the bottom of the
AB Netscape window
AB the machine tells me : Default in box folder doe not exist and that
AB I cannot receive or send any email
AB I managed to install netscape 4.77 and the web browsing is working
AB allright.
AB I used the mandrake-Linux site and their install demos, as well as the
AB SxS. (Icannot help it, but I'am partial to Netscape).
AB I could not work out the SxS suggestion as I'm not sure if this is for
AB this Mandrake-Linux 8.0
AB I enjoyed installing this M-Linux, but there is still a lot to learn
AB 
AB Thank you in advance
AB 
AB Tony Brow (joshua)
=
Have you actually set up the mail program??  Go into edit- preferences -
mail, and set up the necessary pop and smtp information.  this might be
necessary to create the required folders to get you started.  It is a
somewhat limited mailer program, but if you only have one pop account to
worry about, it'll work OK (for Netscape ;-) )
HTH,
Mike

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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:14:18 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

MA On Wednesday 08 August 2001 04:43, Richard Thompson wrote:
MA  I've been having a recurring problem accessing the internet on my
MA eD2.4
MA  box.   I dial up and get a network connection just fine - only no
MA data
MA 
MA [snip]
MA 
MA without knowing wich dialler you are using kppp? it's hard to go
MA further.
MA 
MA you are _probably_ not setting the default route (or allowing the
MA program you 
MA use, to do so). You have different ip numbers assigned to you
MA depending on 
MA your login. The work account, is _probably_ a fixed one and you have 
MA hardwired the gateway, to it.
MA 
MA if you're using kppp (for instance)
MA 
MA setup-(account)-edit-Gateway assign ip address to gateway is
MA first port 
MA of call.
==
Might also try editing /etc/resolv.conf (as root, of course).  Add the
lines:
search your isp
nameserver dns #
nameserver dns #

HTH,
Mike


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sound in WS 3.1 and printer

2001-08-08 Thread Keith Antoine

Umm, apart from the card reader I cannot get sound as user but its present in 
root. I set the S bit and also put in group and user but still no sound, so i 
am missing something else. BTW I assumed it was using /dev/dsp.

Printer is doing the smae too ??

Lastly I need to do a batch exchange in linux from jpegs to .tiff images and 
cannot see anything simple to do this. Gimp is real complicated like Photoshop
and I cannot see anything esle that a batch. I assume that ImageMagik will 
but the docs are obscure, is there a simple prog that will do this.

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Re: gateway to Gateway protocol

2001-08-08 Thread Randy Donohoe

Been using Libranet Debian exclusively for a couple months now. Good
distro. www.thedukeofurl.org has a review of it if you want to check it
out.
Randy Donohoe
- Original Message -
From: Zoki (News) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:12 AM
Subject: gateway to Gateway protocol


 Hello Everybody,

 After having tested a lot of new distributions and Windows2000 I'm
back in
 business with a working Linux workstation. The last 2 months have been
 terrible as I was more or less stuck with a w2k PC I had to use and
Linux
 testing that was a mess. It's a major pain to be forced to look for a
new
 alternative after having had a working setup tweaked to the upmost to
fit
 my needs. On top of it some new distributions should really spend a
few
 weekends looking at what they're releaseing and not get blinded by all
the
 success and green bills people are waving at them.

 I haven't been able to stick my nose into Debian but would like to
find
 out more about it. Anybody on the list using it everyday!??

 OK, now to the question: Could somebody explain me what the
 gateway-to-gateway protocol is about (/etc/protocols = 3) and what is
 causing the following logs:

 Aug  8 08:50:38 wall kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=1
 195.132.181.80:3 195.55.190.134:3 L=96 S=0xC0 I=28405 F=0x T=255
(#76)

 Zoran.

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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Jerry McBride


Just to add my $.02 here...

I had a similar experience with an ISP here in New Jersey. The name is
SNIP.NET. Try as I may, I couldn't make a 
good data exchange with them to save my life. The modems would hand shake, the
tech at the ISP could see my 
pings, but  I wouldn't get anything from them. We tried a number of different
dial-ins, IP addresses, mask's, etc...
However they had their end set up, it wasn't linux or OS/2 friendly at all... I
dropped them like a hot potatoe.

I didn't want the chance of future problems with them... :')



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Re: sound in WS 3.1 and printer

2001-08-08 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Keith Antoine wrote:

 Lastly I need to do a batch exchange in linux from jpegs to .tiff images and 
 cannot see anything simple to do this. Gimp is real complicated like Photoshop
 and I cannot see anything esle that a batch. I assume that ImageMagik will 
 but the docs are obscure, is there a simple prog that will do this.
 

convert is the piece of ImageMagik you want - works nicely for batch ops

Stew Benedict

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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Keith Antoine wrote:

 I have a usb compactflash card reader which I have used in windows and I have 
 just recompiled a kernel (2.4.7) which also sees it in linux.
 
 usb.c: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2
 usb.c: USB device number 3 default language ID 0x409
 Manufacturer: SanDisk Corporation
 Product: ImageMate CompactFlash USB
 SerialNumber: 0003
 usb-storage: act_altsettting is 0
 usb-storage: id_index calculated to be: 24
 usb-storage: Array length appears to be: 47
 usb-storage: Vendor: Sandisk
 usb-storage: Product: ImageMate SDDR-31
 usb-storage: USB Mass Storage device detected
 usb-storage: Endpoints: In: 0xd29e7640 Out: 0xd29e7654 Int: 0x 
 (Period 0
 )

 scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
   Vendor: SanDisk   Model: ImageMate II  Rev: 1.30
   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

You're almost there - I have the same device:

Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: SanDisk   Model: ImageMate II  Rev: 1.30
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 3
USB Mass Storage support registered.

Now if I look at:

[root@powerbook-cooker root]# cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage-0/0 
   Host scsi0: usb-storage
   Vendor: SanDisk Corporation
  Product: ImageMate CompactFlash USB
Serial Number: None
 Protocol: Transparent SCSI
Transport: Bulk
 GUID: 07810002
 Attached: 1

And mount:

[root@powerbook-cooker root]# mount /dev/sda1 -tmsdos /mnt/disk
[root@powerbook-cooker root]# ls /mnt/disk
11-29-00.pdt*  8-2-98.pdt*  ays* inpout32.zip*  scan/test*

Flash disks typically are formatted with a DOS filesystem.  This one is
from my HP200LX.

HTH,
Stew Benedict

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Tim Wunder

According to what I just read, 
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5095366,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02
it only affects the full version, not Acrobat Reader.

But it's interesting that Using PDF bypasses the filters in newer 
versions of Outlook that ordinarily screen out VBScript files.

Regards,
Tim


Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
 I think so, AFAIK, ms products run pdf's without challenge. I have acrobat 5 
 and it opens fully when I click a pdf file. I use pdf's quite a bit and it  
 concerns me that if this gets more work and wider spread that anyone with 
 acrobat will be extremely vulnerable to a system attack. Also that its 
 possible that with more work that even on the linux side someone could get 
 code to execute when the plugin is run to open the pdf file.
 
 Ronnie
 
 On Tuesday 07 August 2001 20:56, you wrote:
 
it uses the PDF extension only so that file association could
get the script executed...right?

Ronnie Gauthier wrote:

not sure if this is real but it sounds like it is.

http://www.coderz.net/zulu/outlook.pdfworm.txt

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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Ian Marchak

Quoting Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:14:18 +1130
 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:
 
SNIP
 MA 
 MA setup-(account)-edit-Gateway assign ip address to gateway is
 MA first port 
 MA of call.
 ==
 Might also try editing /etc/resolv.conf (as root, of course).  Add the
 lines:
 search your isp
 nameserver dns #
 nameserver dns #

IIRC, kppp will do the editing of resolv.conf automagically if it has the 
accounts set up properly.  Don't quote me though, I've been cableized for 
some time and I fear the finer points of ppp are fading to a dark corner of my 
cranium.

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Ian Marchak

Quoting Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I think so, AFAIK, ms products run pdf's without challenge. I have
 acrobat 5 
 and it opens fully when I click a pdf file. I use pdf's quite a bit and
 it  
 concerns me that if this gets more work and wider spread that anyone
 with 
 acrobat will be extremely vulnerable to a system attack. Also that its 
 possible that with more work that even on the linux side someone could
 get 
 code to execute when the plugin is run to open the pdf file.

The worst you could do is bung up your user...as long as you aren't surfing as 
root.  Hence the repetitive cautions of many listgoers to newbies (not saying 
you're one) not to surf as root.

However, this is apparently only an Acrobat (creator not reader) issue.
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Re: sound in WS 3.1 and printer

2001-08-08 Thread Shawn Tayler

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:43:19 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:

Umm, apart from the card reader I cannot get sound as user but its present in 
root. I set the S bit and also put in group and user but still no sound, so i 
am missing something else. BTW I assumed it was using /dev/dsp.

An interesting thing I found on my system was thet /dev/dsp was owned
by me, stayler and grouped with root.  Might be worth a shot there
Skippy

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Re: External CD-RW question

2001-08-08 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Trevor:

Point your browser to:

http://www.linux.nf/stepbystep.htm

and in the index on the left side of the page you will find a listing 
for CD Burners.  I also suggest you bookmark this site.  It's an 
excellent resource.

I don't know about drives connected to the parallel port.  That may be 
a separate issue.  But again, I suggest you begin looking at the SxS 
site.

Since you don't say which distro you are running, I don't know where 
the doc files are on your machine, but you might also look in your /usr 
directory and subdirectories for anything related to CD-R / CD-RW 
drives.

HTH

Regards,

Glenn

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 03:53 am, Trevor Stuart observed:
 I have an external HP CD-RW attached to a parallel port.
 It works under M$ but I'm wanting to move to a linux only
 environment. So, how do I set this up under linux?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Many thanks in advance.
 Trevor Stuart


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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 19:13, David Aikema wrote:

 Well the card seems to work in realplayer, xmms, play, etc
 basically anything that doesn't use artsd

This is part of the kde package? There's a known bug that causes it to 
permanently hold onto the /dev it is fixed in the new kde2.2 due 'real soon 
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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Steve Thompson - UG

i don't quite understand this logic.  i can see where you don't want to reload if you 
get a
virus, BUT if i get a linux virus and it deletes everything in my home. i'm gonna lose
everything that is important. i can reload my workstation and setup the firewalls and 
such. i
dont want to lose my important stuff. i understand from a server standpoint, but 
everyone
saysno big deal, you'll only lose whats in your user id, well thats the important 
stuff to
me.  i just burn it to a cd as a backup.
anyway  my 0.02c

steve thompson

Ian Marchak wrote:

 Quoting Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I think so, AFAIK, ms products run pdf's without challenge. I have
  acrobat 5
  and it opens fully when I click a pdf file. I use pdf's quite a bit and
  it
  concerns me that if this gets more work and wider spread that anyone
  with
  acrobat will be extremely vulnerable to a system attack. Also that its
  possible that with more work that even on the linux side someone could
  get
  code to execute when the plugin is run to open the pdf file.

 The worst you could do is bung up your user...as long as you aren't surfing as
 root.  Hence the repetitive cautions of many listgoers to newbies (not saying
 you're one) not to surf as root.

 However, this is apparently only an Acrobat (creator not reader) issue.
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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Ian Marchak

Quoting Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wednesday 08 August 2001 17:36, Mike Andrew orated thus:
  On Wednesday 08 August 2001 17:43, Keith Antoine wrote:
   I have a usb compactflash card reader which I have used in windows
 and I
   have just recompiled a kernel (2.4.7) which also sees it in linux.
 
  [snip]
 
  go here
 
  http://jphoto.sourceforge.net
 
  go here
 
  http://www.linux-usb.org/devices.html
 
 Sorry neither of these are of any help, as I need to know how to find
 out how 
 to ascertain the /dev/xxx that I need to mount the imagemate card
 reader. The 
 jphoto is camera only and is of no use with my cameras mounting as a usb
 
 removeable drive with no indication of mount points. The linux-usb.org
 site 
 is way over my head nowadays.

Keith,

I think that your card will be available as a /dev/sda# or some other SCSI 
device.  Which sort of makes sense when reading the logs you posted earlier, 
you can see the device doing a scan for SCSI LUNS:

#usb-storage: *** thread awakened.
#usb-storage: Bad target number (7/0)
#usb-storage: *** thread sleeping.
#WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
#USB Mass Storage device found at 3
#usb.c: usb-storage driver claimed interface d294f940
#usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug add 3

Not too sure what '/sbin/hotplug' is but that script or program has found 
something.  Hopefully narrowing it down to /dev/sdX# helps.

Just try:
'mount -t msdos /dev/sdX# /mnt/path_to_cardreader' on your ununsed SCSI 
devices, I think you'll find it in one of them.  I remember going through this 
exercise with a friend...but not all the deatails.

HTH.

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Re: adding codepage

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 19:53, Linuxism Chang wrote:
 oh no.. it's really not there edesktop 2.4
 does 2.2.14 kernel have chinese language support
 by default? or was it caldera who stripped it out?

nothing is by 'default' in a kernel, not even the cpu and machine 
architecture. Each distro chooses to have / not have various modules 
compiled. Since modules do no harm being there if they aren't used, almost 
all distros compile almost all modules 'by default' 

to answer your question

rpm -qf /lib/modules/2.2.14/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp950.o  

if it replies with the name of an rpm then that rpm came from the distro 
unless you ftp'd it from somewhere.


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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 22:07, Keith Antoine wrote:

 Sorry neither of these are of any help, as I need to know how to find out
 how to ascertain the /dev/xxx that I need to mount the imagemate card

tail /var/log/messages

after you have hotplugged the device. The last few lines will contain a 
reference to the /dev/sd?x  device under the hammer.

collins richey (bless his troll's black heart) put me onto a good thing(tm)

open up a su window and type

tail -f /var/log/messages

then install your card.

the opened screen will spit information at you when things iz happening.



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Cupsd has a memory leak? Or just a pig

2001-08-08 Thread N7LQ

I am having a strange problem with COL3.1, KDE 2.1.1 ,m and CUPSD.  I have 256M of RAM 
on this system and it is 
swapping to beat the band.  It even hangs when xcdroast (It pre5 and I've not updated 
it yet) is run.  Vmsize in 
KDEguard shows CUPSD with 545653 and rising, went from 300K to 500K in less than a 
minute.  Is this K or bytes?  
There hasn't been a print job so why is it growing?  My printer is an HP LJ1200 that 
is on an LPD porty on a local 
OS/2 box.  It quite annoying and I'd love to fix it.  It might not be cupsd I suppose, 
is there a way to see the activity 
on swap?  Or something to show the amount of memry an application is using?

stayler

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(no subject)

2001-08-08 Thread Shawn Tayler

Hi Guys

I am having a strange problem with COL3.1, KDE 2.1.1 ,m and CUPSD.  I
have 256M of RAM on this system and it is 
swapping to beat the band.  It even hangs when xcdroast (It pre5 and
I've not updated it yet) is run.  Vmsize in 
KDEguard shows CUPSD with 545653 and rising, went from 300K to 500K in
less than a minute.  Is this K or bytes?  
There hasn't been a print job so why is it growing?  My printer is an
HP LJ1200 that is on an LPD porty on a local 
OS/2 box.  It quite annoying and I'd love to fix it.  It might not be
cupsd I suppose, is there a way to see the activity 
on swap?  Or something to show the amount of memry an application is
using?

stayler


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Re: External CD-RW question

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 21:23, Trevor Stuart wrote:
 I have an external HP CD-RW attached to a parallel port.

[snip]

you're in for a wild ride.

this device is supported under the paride (parallel ide) driver as an HP7110 
(I think) and requires at least two more modules to run which may or may not 
be epat.o and pf.o

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/paride.txt

is where you need to be.

this device is not scsi, not ide, not usb, nor any other 'standard' dev but 
will be (finally) loaded on (something like) /dev/pg0  (parallel general scsi)

It's an awful document to read, but basically it's telling you that you need

paride.o # the core module
some chip driver.o  (probably epat)
scsi-general (pg.o) or hard disk (pcd.o)

bulk-storage-ls120-parallel, on the site below, gives you a good indication 
of the steps required to load this animal. It's not of course the same, you 
will have to do your homework.

Linux incidentally does not distinguish between cd-r and cd-rw, the burning 
application of course does, but the OS does not. In order for it to be a 
burnable cd write, you will have to use to pg.o module to phool it into being 
a scsi device.

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Diald 1.0.1, only fails on first trigger

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

having just installed the latest 'n greatest I'm getting, one, single, 
annoying error

when the connection is first made

start ppp0: SIOCSIFMETRIC: Operation not supported  

this causes the initial trigger to fail eg 

ping somewhere fails

ping again

works as advertised for ever more.

I have installed the ethertap aliases in modules.conf but there's no 
improvement. (and I haven't a clue why I need them) Since the isp uses 
dynamic IP numbers (and ppp accounts for that), it *seems* related to this 
switchover.

any help out there?


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/tmp full

2001-08-08 Thread Mark Heinrich

I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full.  I deleted the files that
I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still
getting an error that my /tmp is full.  How can I see how much space /tmp
has allocated and how much is free?  How can I increase the amount of space
/tmp has?  TIA

Mark

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Re: /tmp full

2001-08-08 Thread Ian Marchak

Quoting Mark Heinrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full.  I deleted the files
 that
 I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still
 getting an error that my /tmp is full.  How can I see how much space
 /tmp
 has allocated and how much is free?  How can I increase the amount of
 space
 /tmp has?  TIA
 
 Mark

If /tmp is on a seperate partition, 'df' will show you the free space on all 
your partitions.  If /tmp is part of your / partition, you may have some work 
ahead of you.  Assuming you have space on your HD, head to the SxS and look up 
PARTITIONS.

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread David A. Bandel

Steve Thompson - UG wrote:
 
 i don't quite understand this logic.  i can see where you don't want to reload if 
you get a
 virus, BUT if i get a linux virus and it deletes everything in my home. i'm gonna 
lose
 everything that is important. i can reload my workstation and setup the firewalls 
and such. i
 dont want to lose my important stuff. i understand from a server standpoint, but 
everyone
 saysno big deal, you'll only lose whats in your user id, well thats the 
important stuff to
 me.  i just burn it to a cd as a backup.
 anyway  my 0.02c
 

Two things you can do to protect what's in your home directory:

set u=r so that if you try to delete the file you're asked if you really
want to.

if you're using ext2 (won't work with reiserfs) as root, use chattr and
set the i (impermeable) attribute.  Now, even root can't delete this
file -- it's impermeable.

Ciao,

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Re: /tmp full

2001-08-08 Thread Kurt Wall

In the last episode, we heard Mark Heinrich say:
 I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full.  I deleted the files that
 I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still
 getting an error that my /tmp is full.  How can I see how much space /tmp
 has allocated and how much is free?  How can I increase the amount of space
 /tmp has?  TIA

Space usage:
df -h /tmp
du -s /tmp
What's using /tmp?
lsof +d /tmp
lsof +D /tmp

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Re: /tmp full

2001-08-08 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 08:38:34 -0600 (CST)
Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment:

 Quoting Mark Heinrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full.  I deleted the files
  that
  I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still
  getting an error that my /tmp is full.  How can I see how much space
  /tmp
  has allocated and how much is free?  How can I increase the amount of
  space
  /tmp has?  TIA
  
  Mark
 
 If /tmp is on a seperate partition, 'df' will show you the free space on
 all 
 your partitions.  If /tmp is part of your / partition, you may have some
 work 
 ahead of you.  Assuming you have space on your HD, head to the SxS and
 look up 
 PARTITIONS.

How about cd /tmp
du
Won't that tell the original poster how much of his /tmp is being used?
Mike

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Actually, the way I read this, the script is embedded in the PDF.  Not 
clear on whether it only works with Acrobat full, or if it works in Reader, 
but you just have to double-click the link instead of just clicking.


At 09:56 AM 8/8/01 +0800, you wrote:
it uses the PDF extension only so that file association could
get the script executed...right?

Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
not sure if this is real but it sounds like it is.
http://www.coderz.net/zulu/outlook.pdfworm.txt



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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Conner

Would cdrecord -scanbus show this device?  Just curious, I don't have one but 
a friend of mine has a similar device.

Jim

On Wednesday August 08, 2001  6:41 am, Stew Benedict wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Keith Antoine wrote:
  I have a usb compactflash card reader which I have used in windows and I
  have just recompiled a kernel (2.4.7) which also sees it in linux.
snip
  scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Vendor: SanDisk   Model: ImageMate II  Rev: 1.30
Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

 You're almost there - I have the same device:
snip
 [root@powerbook-cooker root]# mount /dev/sda1 -tmsdos /mnt/disk
 [root@powerbook-cooker root]# ls /mnt/disk
 11-29-00.pdt*  8-2-98.pdt*  ays* inpout32.zip*  scan/test*

 Flash disks typically are formatted with a DOS filesystem.  This one is
 from my HP200LX.

 HTH,
 Stew Benedict

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Bill Campbell

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:08:17AM -0400, Steve Thompson - UG wrote:

i don't quite understand this logic.  i can see where you don't want to
reload if you get a virus, BUT if i get a linux virus and it deletes
everything in my home. i'm gonna lose everything that is important. i can
reload my workstation and setup the firewalls and such. i dont want to lose
my important stuff. i understand from a server standpoint, but everyone
saysno big deal, you'll only lose whats in your user id, well thats the
important stuff to me.  i just burn it to a cd as a backup.  anyway  my
0.02c

If one is truly paranoid about dealing with things like this,
it's easy enough to set up a user on the system specifically for
internet use, and do all browsing as that user.  It's even easy
to do using ssh.  ``ssh -l safeuser -f opera'' will start up
opera running as safeuser in safeuser's home directory.  This way
only things under that home directory is vulnerable.

Of course no security is worth a damn if one doesn't have good
verified backups.

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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Not so far...but the ability of PDFs and Acrobat to do something like this 
means we can't look at PDFs as innocuous.  I mean most people have felt 
nearly as safe opening a PDF to see what it is as a text file.

At 10:13 AM 8/8/01 -0500, Jim Conner wrote:
The way I read this is that it needs Acrobat full it will not work with
Acrobat Reader.  Since Acrobat full isn't ported to Linux, we are immune.
Also, it will need MS Outlook and a way to run a vbs script.  Only Windows
systems that have Acrobat full and MS Outlook installed will be vulnerable.
This doesn't seem to be a new linux virus.

Jim



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Re: /tmp full

2001-08-08 Thread Lee

Mark Heinrich wrote:

 I am unable to start KDE because my /tmp is full.  I deleted the files that
 I thought I could and there are only two or three left but I am still
 getting an error that my /tmp is full.  How can I see how much space /tmp
 has allocated and how much is free?  How can I increase the amount of space
 /tmp has?  TIA

 Mark

Being the lazy sort, if I was sure that there was nothing in temp I wanted, I'd just rm
/my/temp. Boot into KDE to see if that was really the problem. If the beastie booted 
into KDE
then just make a new temp file.



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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Glenn Williams

The article reference that was posted here (yesterday?) said it does 
^^not^^ work in Acrobat Reader - only in the full Acrobat program.

FWIW

Regards,

Glenn

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 09:00 am, Stuart Biggerstaff observed:
 Actually, the way I read this, the script is embedded in the PDF. 
 Not clear on whether it only works with Acrobat full, or if it works
 in Reader, but you just have to double-click the link instead of just
 clicking.

 At 09:56 AM 8/8/01 +0800, you wrote:
 it uses the PDF extension only so that file association could
 get the script executed...right?
 
 Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
 not sure if this is real but it sounds like it is.
 http://www.coderz.net/zulu/outlook.pdfworm.txt
 
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Re: dmesg fun

2001-08-08 Thread Douglas J. Hunley

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 02:35, Mike Andrew babbled:

 short answer = 7

danke


 long answer =

 /etc/initlog.conf and

I don't have this on my suse box


 /etc/rc.d/sysinit.rc (for SuSe and RH)

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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Richard Thompson

Thanks for the reply - a little more information.  I use kppp.  Both accounts are 
dynamically
assigned dial-up accounts.  This particular machine is a workstation and is connected 
via modem
to the ISP w/o an intermediary device.  I even rebooted the machine and came back to 
the same
locked up IP address for the one account, but a perfectly fine random address for 
the other
(logs available on request).  The wierdness I describe occurs sporadically, once or 
twice a
week, usually after business hours, often on the weekend.  The only never failing 
similarity are
the IP addresses I quoted.  Is there anything magical about either of the addresses?

Aug  6 20:47:27 costello pppd[7924]: local  IP address 216.47.27.128
Aug  6 20:47:27 costello pppd[7924]: remote IP address 216.47.25.5

I live in a small town and I'm a little paranoid that local good old boys at the telco 
are
looking over people's shoulders to get a jump on the gossip circuit.  This problem has 
just been
too regular and the locked up addresses too perfectly consistant for too long to 
ignore any
longer.  Thanks again for responding.

- Rich Thompson

Mike Andrew wrote:

 On Wednesday 08 August 2001 04:43, Richard Thompson wrote:
  I've been having a recurring problem accessing the internet on my eD2.4
  box.   I dial up and get a network connection just fine - only no data

 [snip]

 without knowing wich dialler you are using kppp? it's hard to go further.

 you are _probably_ not setting the default route (or allowing the program you
 use, to do so). You have different ip numbers assigned to you depending on
 your login. The work account, is _probably_ a fixed one and you have
 hardwired the gateway, to it.

 if you're using kppp (for instance)

 setup-(account)-edit-Gateway assign ip address to gateway is first port
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Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger

2001-08-08 Thread Anthony Joshua Brow

attn: Andrew Mathews.

First, Andrew, thank for your courtesy in replying.

Second I did as you suggested and the outcome was as follows:

-rw-- 1 tony tony 0 aug 6 1427 drafts
-rw-- 1 tony tony 0 aug 6 1427 Inbox
-rw-- 1--sent
-rw---1--Template
-rw---1---trash
-rw---1---unsent
-rw---1---messages

At this stage I have no idea how to proceed, but I guess I may have to do
something with the line that shows
the 'Inbox'.  I  had adjusted the 'preference settings' in the netscape part
several times, with the result that I suddenly got online
but, the 'Inbox and Outbox' still have me stumped. So over to you and thank
you again.

Tony
 
  G'day Ladies/Gents,
 
  Ref above, are there any Mandrake -Linux users among you ?
  As a newbie I 'am having trouble to get the 'messenger' for emails
  installed. When I click on the email grafic on the bottom of the
  Netscape window
  the machine tells me : Default in box folder doe not exist and that
  I cannot receive or send any email
  I managed to install netscape 4.77 and the web browsing is working
  allright.
  I used the mandrake-Linux site and their install demos, as well as the
  SxS. (Icannot help it, but I'am partial to Netscape).
  I could not work out the SxS suggestion as I'm not sure if this is for
  this Mandrake-Linux 8.0
  I enjoyed installing this M-Linux, but there is still a lot to learn
 
  Thank you in advance
 
  Tony Brow (joshua)

 Try the following and tell us what it shows. cd to your home directory
 and do an ls -l | grep nsmail which should show something like mine:
 drwx--   5 andy users2048 Aug  7 23:39 nsmail
 Next cd nsmail and do an ls -l which should show something like:
 -rw---   1 andy users2249 Aug  8 00:20 Inbox
 If there is no Inbox do touch Inbox then chmod a+rw Inbox then fire
 up Messenger again. The error should go away. If there's anything
 different report back with what yours shows.
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Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger

2001-08-08 Thread Anthony Joshua Brow

Thank you to Michael Scottaline and Lee as well for you replies. As
indicated I have managed to get the netscape browser part to work only. In
regards to the settings for email I have been in and out of the Preference
section of the Communicator several times, following the graphic
instructions on the Mandrake-Linux site.
I cannot see how I made an error, but, it certainly could have happened.
Anyway I am open to try other things. Thank you/

Tony

 On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:08:19 +1000
 Anthony Joshua Brow [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

 AB
 AB
 AB
 AB G'day Ladies/Gents,
 AB
 AB Ref above, are there any Mandrake -Linux users among you ?
 AB As a newbie I 'am having trouble to get the 'messenger' for emails
 AB installed. When I click on the email grafic on the bottom of the
 AB Netscape window
 AB the machine tells me : Default in box folder doe not exist and that
 AB I cannot receive or send any email
 AB I managed to install netscape 4.77 and the web browsing is working
 AB allright.
 AB I used the mandrake-Linux site and their install demos, as well as the
 AB SxS. (Icannot help it, but I'am partial to Netscape).
 AB I could not work out the SxS suggestion as I'm not sure if this is for
 AB this Mandrake-Linux 8.0
 AB I enjoyed installing this M-Linux, but there is still a lot to learn
 AB
 AB Thank you in advance
 AB
 AB Tony Brow (joshua)
 =
 Have you actually set up the mail program??  Go into edit- preferences -
 mail, and set up the necessary pop and smtp information.  this might be
 necessary to create the required folders to get you started.  It is a
 somewhat limited mailer program, but if you only have one pop account to
 worry about, it'll work OK (for Netscape ;-) )
 HTH,
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Mandrake-Linux RPMs

2001-08-08 Thread Anthony Joshua Brow



Ladies/Gents,

May I share the following with you. 
I know I am a newbie, but this may possibly help others.
When I got my Mandrake-Linux. I also 
got a disk with hundreds of RPMs. Now looking at the titles I simply 
have
no idea what all these programs in 
the RPMs do. On the net I found a Dutch site on which are about 128 A4 
pages (should one
want to print these) with a short 
explanation what the the programs do or what they are for.
the site is:
Http://ct-pc15.chem.uva.nl/rpm/Linux-Mandrake.html

Rgds
Tony



Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread David Aikema

On August 8, 2001 06:05 am, Mike Andrew wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 August 2001 19:13, David Aikema wrote:
  Well the card seems to work in realplayer, xmms, play, etc
  basically anything that doesn't use artsd

 This is part of the kde package? There's a known bug that causes it to
 permanently hold onto the /dev it is fixed in the new kde2.2 due 'real soon
 now'

Ya that's what I think the problem is.  I think miles stated earlier that 
when he built the latest kde2.2 from cvs this fixed those problems.
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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 09 August 2001 00:53, Jim Conner orated thus:
 Would cdrecord -scanbus show this device?  Just curious, I don't have one
 but a friend of mine has a similar device.

 Jim

I had read the previous mails re this and was planning to have a look when I 
had taken the wife out food shopping. Came acros yours and thought yep should 
have done that, and as it was simplae tried, BINGO:

scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'SanDisk ' 'ImageMate II' '1.30' Removable Disk
1,1,0   101) *
1,2,0   102) *
1,3,0   103) *
1,4,0   104) *
1,5,0   105) *
1,6,0   106) *
1,7,0   107) *

I had not as yet got around to getting the dvd reader and the sony writer 
working along with xcdroast, but guess I would have seen it eventually.
So now I have more work to do getting them up and running as well.

I get frustrated with myself when the old mind goes blank on me and I cannot 
remember what to do in 'simple' cases, stuff the hard ones grin.

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Re: Mandrake-Linux RPMs

2001-08-08 Thread Net Llama


--- Anthony Joshua Brow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ladies/Gents,
 
 May I share the following with you. I know I am a newbie, but this may
 possibly help others.
 When I got my Mandrake-Linux. I also got a disk with hundreds of RPMs.
 Now looking at the titles I simply have
 no idea what all these programs in the RPMs do. On the net I found a
 Dutch site on which are about 128  A4 pages (should one
 want to print these) with a short explanation what the the programs do
 or what they are for.
 the site is:
 Http://ct-pc15.chem.uva.nl/rpm/Linux-Mandrake.html

1) This is rpmfind.net
2) rpm -qip file.rpm  provides the same exact info.

Nice try though.

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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Conner

Age has nothing to do with it.  I'm 36 and frequently I'm afflicted with the 
CRS(Can't Remember S#!t) disease.  This could be something as simple as a 
someone's name that I've known for years or as complex as what you are doing. 
 If you get it working, I'd like to see an addition to the SxS.  As far as 
the dvd player, I haven't a clue.  Never messed with one in a computer.  If 
you need help with the Sony cd burner, I have a Yahama IDE burner working 
great in eD2.4, and I'd be glad to help.  I do know that the SxS on CD 
Burners is very good.  Good luck.

Jim

On Wednesday August 08, 2001  5:00 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Thursday 09 August 2001 00:53, Jim Conner orated thus:
  Would cdrecord -scanbus show this device?  Just curious, I don't have one
  but a friend of mine has a similar device.
 
  Jim

 I had read the previous mails re this and was planning to have a look when
 I had taken the wife out food shopping. Came acros yours and thought yep
 should have done that, and as it was simplae tried, BINGO:

 scsibus1:
 1,0,0   100) 'SanDisk ' 'ImageMate II' '1.30' Removable Disk
 1,1,0   101) *
 1,2,0   102) *
 1,3,0   103) *
 1,4,0   104) *
 1,5,0   105) *
 1,6,0   106) *
 1,7,0   107) *

 I had not as yet got around to getting the dvd reader and the sony writer
 working along with xcdroast, but guess I would have seen it eventually.
 So now I have more work to do getting them up and running as well.

 I get frustrated with myself when the old mind goes blank on me and I
 cannot remember what to do in 'simple' cases, stuff the hard ones grin.

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Cupsd and my rant

2001-08-08 Thread Shawn Tayler

Sorry about the earlier rant there guys.  I think I have fixed the
problem.  I believe it is related to one or more of the memory leaks in
cupsd 1.1.5, replaced it with 1.1.9 but the problem was still present. 
Went to /var/spool/cups and there were 3800 files of zero length all in
a row.  a quick rm after killing cupsd and then a restart and so far so
good, things look good.  

Again my apologies.  I think I need to get more sleep.

stayler

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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:07:21 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On August 8, 2001 06:05 am, Mike Andrew wrote:
  On Wednesday 08 August 2001 19:13, David Aikema wrote:
   Well the card seems to work in realplayer, xmms, play, etc
   basically anything that doesn't use artsd
 
  This is part of the kde package? There's a known bug that causes it
 to
  permanently hold onto the /dev it is fixed in the new kde2.2 due
 'real soon
  now'
 
 Ya that's what I think the problem is.  I think miles stated
 earlier that 
 when he built the latest kde2.2 from cvs this fixed those problems.

Yes, my system now has sound under kde after compiling the code from
cvs last week.

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Re: dmesg fun

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Thursday 09 August 2001 04:54, Douglas J. Hunley wrote:

 I don't have this on my suse box

  /etc/rc.d/sysinit.rc (for SuSe and RH)

 nor this


you do have /etc/inittab

--snip

si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

-snip 

the (dot)rc is transposed depending on what the author had for breakfast on 
friday or if it was a full moon the day before.

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Re: dmesg fun

2001-08-08 Thread Douglas J. Hunley

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 20:49, Mike Andrew babbled:

 you do have /etc/inittab

yes...

 si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

no... /etc/rc.d/boot ;)

but it doesn't reference dmesg ;(


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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Thursday 09 August 2001 04:36, Richard Thompson wrote:

 Aug  6 20:47:27 costello pppd[7924]: local  IP address 216.47.27.128
 Aug  6 20:47:27 costello pppd[7924]: remote IP address 216.47.25.5

My money is on them. And it is _probably_ no more than a simple typo on their 
part when handling dynamically assigned ips to a large block of them.

Ok, so this is for the purposes of answering me, or, them.

first you have to establish whether you can get to the outside world at all, 
after a dial (i think you said no). In short

find a hard ip number in the outside world that will answer pings

yahoo on 216.115.108.243 is a safe bet.

no answer means your default gateway is stuffed, OR, 'them' have a routing 
problem on THEIR 216.47.25.5 (it's easy enough for an isp to bungle a script) 
slap

/sbin/ifconfig

_should_ show the following

Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
216.47.25.5 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  00 ppp0

if that  gateway and defailt isn't there, *you* have a problem, houston.


On the other hand, if you _can_ at least ping a hard number, you, or them 
have a dns issue.

cat /etc/resolv.conf

ping the last listed server 

if it doesn't respond, you, or them, are lying about where the dns server is.


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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

Rick,

I've been playing since 83.

The only rant I've read in this thread is yours.

If you push your bed against the wall you cant fall out on the wrong side.

Hope you have a better day tomorrow.

Ronnie

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 14:56, you wrote:
 Ronnie

   How long have you been in this computer world. Well the virus stuff has
 been with us since the 80s and it will stay with us. What we all need to do
 is protect ourselves the best we can. Backup systems and other important
 data. This ranting is tiresome and it takes up the band width. If you must
 have aconversation, great how about offline.

   Thanks and you all have a great day.

 Rick Sivernell
 Dallas, Texas  75287
 972 306-2296
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Re: Mandrake-Linux RPMs

2001-08-08 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Anthony Joshua Brow wrote:

 Ladies/Gents,
 
 May I share the following with you. I know I am a newbie, but this may possibly help 
others.
 When I got my Mandrake-Linux. I also got a disk with hundreds of RPMs. Now looking 
at the titles I simply have
 no idea what all these programs in the RPMs do. On the net I found a Dutch site on 
which are about 128  A4 pages (should one

You might also consider the command:

rpm -qip some-rpm-package.rpm

Which will tell you some nice info:

bash-2.03$ rpm -qip MySQL-3.23.40-1.i386.rpm 
Name: MySQLRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 3.23.40   Vendor: MySQL AB
Release : 1 Build Date: Wed Jul 18
18:07:15 2001
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: mysql-work
Group   : Applications/DatabasesSource RPM:
MySQL-3.23.40-1.src.rpm
Size: 15590525 License: GPL / LGPL
Packager: David Axmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://www.mysql.com/
Summary : MySQL: a very fast and reliable SQL database engine
Description :
MySQL is a true multi-user, multi-threaded SQL (Structured Query
Language) database server. MySQL is a client/server implementation
that consists of a server daemon (mysqld) and many different client
programs/libraries.
 and so on


Mandrake also offers rpmdrake - a graphical interface to your RPM's

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Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger

2001-08-08 Thread Andrew Mathews

Anthony Joshua Brow wrote:
 
 attn: Andrew Mathews.
 
 First, Andrew, thank for your courtesy in replying.
 
 Second I did as you suggested and the outcome was as follows:
 
 -rw-- 1 tony tony 0 aug 6 1427 drafts
 -rw-- 1 tony tony 0 aug 6 1427 Inbox
 -rw-- 1--sent
 -rw---1--Template
 -rw---1---trash
 -rw---1---unsent
 -rw---1---messages
 
 At this stage I have no idea how to proceed, but I guess I may have to do
 something with the line that shows
 the 'Inbox'.  I  had adjusted the 'preference settings' in the netscape part
 several times, with the result that I suddenly got online
 but, the 'Inbox and Outbox' still have me stumped. So over to you and thank
 you again.
 
 Tony
snip

You will need to do a little touch up on these by cd'ing into the
nsmail directory and doing a chown tony * and chgrp tony * Your
files have correct permissions so just give them proper ownership and
group. Next thing to try would be to check permissions on your
preferences.js file which stores your settings. If you don't have
permission to change it, it won't ever let you do what you need to.
Yours is probably in /home/tony/.netscape/preferences.js. Note that it's
in a hidden directory (.netscape) so syntax is important. You need to
set it with chmod a+rw preferences.js, and if ls -l preferences.js
shows anything besides you as owner and group, change it with the chown
and chgrp commands as above. Take it one step at a time and let us know
the results.
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CD burning: request for test was Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Thursday 09 August 2001 11:07, Jim Conner wrote:
 If you need help with the Sony cd burner, I have a Yahama IDE
 burner working great in eD2.4, and I'd be glad to help.  I do know that the
 SxS on CD Burners is very good.  Good luck.

Not directed at Jim directly but,

I am not at all happy with the SxS stating you *must* use the append line. 

This is NOT true of kernel 2.4.x and I don't believe the kernels are that 
different.

could someone on a 2.2.x kernel (COL 2.4 eg / RH 6.x eg) PLEASE load up 
ide-scsi as a normal module and test it out by removing that damn append 
statement? I simply cannot believe such a brute force approach is required.

On Caldera it *should* be as simple as placing ide-scsi as one of the first 
statements in /etc/modules/default.

the rule of thumb is you place whatever you want to remain as an ide device 
*before* the statement otherwise it becomes a scsi /dev Thus

ide-floppy
ide-scsi

allows LS120's (eg) to remain as is.

The problem with the ide-scsi appearing so early in the piece eg the append 
line for god's sake, is that it screws the rest of your 'standard' /dev 
addressing for many other ide devices. Like all things scsi, if the damn 
device cannot be found at instantiation then the entire sd?x file system goes 
awol, dreaming up new numbers you never thought of.

for anyone testing, you don't need to burn a cd, just check that xcdroast is 
alive and kicking


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Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Thursday 09 August 2001 03:54, Stew Benedict wrote:

 Actually - I do have a SCSI bus - but nothing on it during that
 discussion.  Generally, if the usb-storage loads after your normal SCSI
 devices, it will be the next available device. (sdb, sdc, sdd ...)

Then sda1 won't hold true for general usb useage. The approach being 
hot-pluggable and most would want to use such animals in that manner.

I was wondering your 'technique' for discovering what /device it's on this 
week or whether you tail /var/log/messages. The dynamic and arbitrary drive 
assignment of Linux-scsi has been a bad design decision. Sum1 didn't think 
this through very well at all, and to get over it they have implemented all 
sorts of even worse design decisions in forcing fixed addresses at kernel 
boot time.



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Re: ipop3d in edesktop 2.4

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

oops.. forget that pam one when looking for hints.. sorry.

which .conf file controls whether root could collect email
from a remote workstation? /etc/securetty? not likely...
 take a look at /etc/pam.d/pop

you mean the pop daemon has an alias file?
or is it also using sendmail's alias file?

I am familiar with none of them. but I didn't
allow external parties to access those ports. :)

I want to download the meail for root from my Window$'s mozilla
over pop3. It didn't allow me to login as root.
 As well it shouldn't.  Alias root to a real user


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Re: Diald 1.0.1, only fails on first trigger

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

could it be that ip_dynaddr thing?
your demand-dialing pppd should be triggered
by the dns query (my approach). so your own IP
is not an issue.

 when the connection is first made
 start ppp0: SIOCSIFMETRIC: Operation not supported  
 isp uses  dynamic IP numbers (and ppp accounts for that), 
 it *seems* related to this  switchover.


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Re: SOLVED [WAS: Re: C++ compiler cannot create executables ]

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

so I should have dragged the whole gcc compiler off
the caldera site, rather than just the glibc libs.

Net Llama wrote:
 Yes.  The compiler binary needs to know where the libs it was built for
 are located.


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Re: adding codepage

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

guess you are using the latest n greating.

in edesktop 2.4, there is only /lib/modules/2.2.14/fs.
I did
rpm -qf nls_cp950.o
no such file.
ls /lib/modules/2.2.14/fs also revealed no suck codepage.

So my only option to recompile, I guess... hmm.
is cp950 in your 2.4 kernel's (or menuconfig)
and is there any site that would allow me download
the cp_950.o for 2.2.14 kernel?

 rpm -qf /lib/modules/2.2.14/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp950.o  
 if it replies with the name of an rpm then that rpm 
 came from the distro unless you ftp'd it from somewhere.


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Re: Mandrake-Linux RPMs

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

would you mind not to post html?  :)

Anthony Joshua Brow wrote:
 May I share the following with you. I know I am a newbie, but this may 
 possibly help others.


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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Linuxism Chang

that's why AIA is still in business. :)

 Of course no security is worth a damn if one doesn't have good
 verified backups.


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cardreader and sound on WS 3.1

2001-08-08 Thread Keith Antoine




I have recompiled the kernel with msdos in it both as a module and as part of 
the kernel, I recompiled 3 times today.

When I try to mount :: mount -t msdos /dev/sda1 /carddisk I get ::
mount: fs type msdos not supported by kernel

But as you can see it is selected

# File systems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set
CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_FAT_FS=y
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS=y
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y

When I compile and finish with mkinitrd.sh; I get a peculiar ending I have 
not seen before::

[root@bigpond /boot]# /usr/libexec/modules/mkinitrd.sh 2.4.7
/lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o: init_module: Input/output 
error
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o: insmod loop failed
Warning: no loop module ! Trying to use /dev/ram2
mount: /dev/ram2 has wrong major or minor number
umount: /tmp/mnt14594: not mounted
rmdir: /tmp/mnt14594: Directory not empty

I do have loopback selected and I have done it as part of kernel and as 
module.

SOUND: it plays in root but not as user; yes a permissions problem as David 
said.

Permissions::crw---   1 kantoine root  14,   3 Apr 28 05:38 /dev/dsp 
I have set them as root to 666 and also kantoine.user only on reboot to loose 
them ??? But I do not get sound hwhen I change from root to user. Got me beat 
and I also print as root but not user, never had an install with the beta 
(sybil) that I had these problem arise.

Just on the verge of doing a complete reinstall, but thought that i would ask 
first. Mind you I always get problem no-one else has.
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Re: Me, or them?

2001-08-08 Thread Richard Thompson

Thanks, Mike for the assistance - got a direction to head in. Always nice to 
end a conversation with a little more knowledge than it started it.

- Rich Thompson

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 17:11, you wrote:
 On Thursday 09 August 2001 04:36, Richard Thompson wrote:
  Aug  6 20:47:27 costello pppd[7924]: local  IP address 216.47.27.128
  Aug  6 20:47:27 costello pppd[7924]: remote IP address 216.47.25.5

 My money is on them. And it is _probably_ no more than a simple typo on
 their part when handling dynamically assigned ips to a large block of them.

 Ok, so this is for the purposes of answering me, or, them.

 first you have to establish whether you can get to the outside world at
 all, after a dial (i think you said no). In short

 find a hard ip number in the outside world that will answer pings

 yahoo on 216.115.108.243 is a safe bet.

 no answer means your default gateway is stuffed, OR, 'them' have a routing
 problem on THEIR 216.47.25.5 (it's easy enough for an isp to bungle a
 script) slap

 /sbin/ifconfig

 _should_ show the following

 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface 216.47.25.5 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  0   
 0 ppp0 127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  0  
  0 lo default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  0   
 0 ppp0

 if that  gateway and defailt isn't there, *you* have a problem,
 houston.


 On the other hand, if you _can_ at least ping a hard number, you, or them
 have a dns issue.

 cat /etc/resolv.conf

 ping the last listed server

 if it doesn't respond, you, or them, are lying about where the dns server
 is.
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Re: CD burning: request for test was Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 09 August 2001 11:55, Mike Andrew orated thus:

 I am not at all happy with the SxS stating you *must* use the append line.

 This is NOT true of kernel 2.4.x and I don't believe the kernels are that
 different.

 could someone on a 2.2.x kernel (COL 2.4 eg / RH 6.x eg) PLEASE load up
 ide-scsi as a normal module and test it out by removing that damn append
 statement? I simply cannot believe such a brute force approach is required.

 On Caldera it *should* be as simple as placing ide-scsi as one of the first
 statements in /etc/modules/default.

I wrote the very original SxS on CD burners if you remember and having the 
statement hdb=ide-scsi was at that time the only way to get the burner seen 
by the OS. However I remarked early in the piece after the initial install of 
Sybil that the staement wa sno longer needed and this was confirmed by 
Marcus. I have been meaning to change the SxS, although its not mine now.

But at this present moment in time I cannot get the dvd or cdrom to be seen 
by the OS no matter what i do so it looks as if I have real problems with the 
present install, with so many things going wrong. Know its not possible but 
that Sir virus I got, things seemed to have gone wonky since then.

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Re: CD burning: request for test was Re: usb card reader

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Conner

I'm running eD2.4 with 2.2.14 kernel.  Yes, I know 2.4.7 is current, but I 
don't have any usb devices and plan on updating the kernel when I update the 
distro and hardware.  :)  What problems are you having with the cdrw drive?  
I ran Sybil for a couple of months and noticed that /dev/cdrom was pointed to 
the wrong device on install.  As far as I know SirCam will not infect or 
affect Linux.  I don't even think it'll drop it's payload file(if it has 
one).  IIRC, it's just a vbs script that will infect MS Outlook.

Jim

On Wednesday August 08, 2001 11:04 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Thursday 09 August 2001 11:55, Mike Andrew orated thus:
  I am not at all happy with the SxS stating you *must* use the append
  line.
 
  This is NOT true of kernel 2.4.x and I don't believe the kernels are that
  different.
 
  could someone on a 2.2.x kernel (COL 2.4 eg / RH 6.x eg) PLEASE load up
  ide-scsi as a normal module and test it out by removing that damn append
  statement? I simply cannot believe such a brute force approach is
  required.
 
  On Caldera it *should* be as simple as placing ide-scsi as one of the
  first statements in /etc/modules/default.

 I wrote the very original SxS on CD burners if you remember and having the
 statement hdb=ide-scsi was at that time the only way to get the burner seen
 by the OS. However I remarked early in the piece after the initial install
 of Sybil that the staement wa sno longer needed and this was confirmed by
 Marcus. I have been meaning to change the SxS, although its not mine now.

 But at this present moment in time I cannot get the dvd or cdrom to be seen
 by the OS no matter what i do so it looks as if I have real problems with
 the present install, with so many things going wrong. Know its not possible
 but that Sir virus I got, things seemed to have gone wonky since then.

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Re: cardreader and sound on WS 3.1

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Conner

I've noticed that if you use -t vfat with vfat, fat and msdos loaded, it will 
choose which one it needs.  At least I think so.  The problem with loop could 
be the order that it is being loaded in relation to other modules.  If you 
have /usr/bin/play from sox, try play foo.wav and see if you get sound as 
root.  If not, something is wrong with the sound modules you are loading for 
the sound card.

Jim

On Wednesday August 08, 2001 10:13 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 I have recompiled the kernel with msdos in it both as a module and as part
 of the kernel, I recompiled 3 times today.

 When I try to mount :: mount -t msdos /dev/sda1 /carddisk I get ::
 mount: fs type msdos not supported by kernel

 But as you can see it is selected

 # File systems
 #
 # CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
 # CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
 # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set
 CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y
 # CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set
 # CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
 # CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
 # CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
 # CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set
 CONFIG_FAT_FS=y
 CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
 CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS=y
 CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y

 When I compile and finish with mkinitrd.sh; I get a peculiar ending I have
 not seen before::

 [root@bigpond /boot]# /usr/libexec/modules/mkinitrd.sh 2.4.7
 /lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o: init_module: Input/output
 error
 Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including
 invalid IO or IRQ parameters
 /lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o: insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.7/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o: insmod loop failed
 Warning: no loop module ! Trying to use /dev/ram2
 mount: /dev/ram2 has wrong major or minor number
 umount: /tmp/mnt14594: not mounted
 rmdir: /tmp/mnt14594: Directory not empty

 I do have loopback selected and I have done it as part of kernel and as
 module.

 SOUND: it plays in root but not as user; yes a permissions problem as David
 said.

 Permissions::crw---   1 kantoine root  14,   3 Apr 28 05:38
 /dev/dsp I have set them as root to 666 and also kantoine.user only on
 reboot to loose them ??? But I do not get sound hwhen I change from root to
 user. Got me beat and I also print as root but not user, never had an
 install with the beta (sybil) that I had these problem arise.

 Just on the verge of doing a complete reinstall, but thought that i would
 ask first. Mind you I always get problem no-one else has.

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