Re: Oops...i did it again!

2002-02-13 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:26:37 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think it was exec: - that wasn't found.  Its all fixed now, so i'm
 not too concerned.

and the fix was? I'm asking because the exact same thing is happening
here now =(

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Re: Poor Man's Remote Admin

2002-02-04 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:25:07 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Look around for something called dailyscript.  I still have it (and
 have customized it heavily, so it probably won't work for you).  I
 just mash it around a bit for each distro/release.  Wouldn't be
 without it.

found it here...

http://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=dailyscript

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Re: logging...

2002-01-30 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:55:10 -0500
Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 P.S.  Thats not my entire syslog.conf, jsut the pertinent spots.
 
 Also I notice that messages is no longer receiving messages either 
 the only thing I added to that line was named.

silly question, but did you stop/start syslog after you edited
syslog.conf?

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Re: xfree-4.2+

2002-01-28 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:33:10 -0500
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 greetings.
 
 the crosspost is because this will perhaps be of interest to 
 everybody. a couple hours ago i did a cvs harvest from xfree, it 
 having been noted that the release 4.2 had a couple of fairly 
 gruesome bugs which have since been fixed.

Really? I've been running 4.2 for a few days already...

snipped a buch of stuff
 so, anyway, to the extent that one anecdote is evidence, the xfree 
 code in the head branch of their cvs server right now is highly 
 recommended, and a piece of cake.

Errmm... not really a piece of cake :(  I installed CVSup lastnight 'cuz
the cvs commands listed on the xfree86 site refused to work here for me.
CVSup worked well, brought down everything I was looking for - but it
won't build in it's current condition. By that I mean the Makefile
looks like Makefile,v (all filesnames appear to have the ',v' at the
end) and I can't seem to figure out wtf to do to get it to build. So far
I've tried make -f Makefile. make -f Makefile,v and autogen.sh and
I've (very quickly) run out of ideers. Help anyone?

TIA
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Re: xfree-4.2+

2002-01-28 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:02:43 -0500
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 28 January 2002 10:26, Myles Green wrote:
 
 | Errmm... not really a piece of cake :(  I installed CVSup lastnight
 | 'cuz the cvs commands listed on the xfree86 site refused to work
 | here for me. CVSup worked well, brought down everything I was
 | looking for - but it won't build in it's current condition. By that
 | I mean the Makefile looks like Makefile,v (all filesnames
 | appear to have the ',v' at the end) and I can't seem to figure out
 | wtf to do to get it to build. So far I've tried make -f Makefile.
 | make -f Makefile,v and autogen.sh and I've (very quickly) run
 | out of ideers. Help anyone?
 
 weird. got nothing even faintly resembling that here.

Then it must be something I did wrong (duh!). Which method do you use to
pull the sources down from CVS? I used CVSup xfree86.cvsup and this is
the contents of my xfree86.cvsup:

---
*default release=cvs host=anoncvs.xfree86.org
base=/home/mylesg/cvs_xfree86*default prefix=/home/mylesg/xfree86_head
delete use-rel-suffix*default compress
*default tar=.
xc-all
doctools-all
---

*sigh* maybe I'd better go back and re-read the directions and
examples...

Thanks,

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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:47:39 -0500
Joshua Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 25 January 2002 12:09 am, Myles Green wrote:
  Must be a problem with GDM (you did say that was what you were
  using, correct?) because I use KDM when using RL5 and haven't had
  any problems. Is there a quick and dirty way for me to change to
  using GDM so I can
 
 What distro are you using? In SuSE you can change one line in
 /etc/rc.config (DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm) to gdm.

Using RH 7.2 right now and I found it by digging around in
/etc/X11/prefdm which led me to /etc/sysconfig/desktop where the line
DESKTOP=KDE will get you KDM or DESKTOP=GNOME for GDM. Thanks for
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Re: background splash-screen, RH72 was Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:43:12 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:21, Myles Green wrote:
 
  OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way.
  In
 
 Ok, wizards. Since this is still all fresh in your mind, i have an
 annoying problem with the KDE user login screen (RH72) I've set the
 background to something I want and it flashes briefly for 2 seconds or
 so, then gets overwritten by a Rehdat logo et al. Any clues folks
 where to look?

Yes. Try looking in /etc/X11, can't recall the filename but I did see
something in there somewhere pertaining to the background et al. Sorry I
can't be more helpful right now but I'm still waiting for the coffee to
finish brewing, give me a little time and I'll go looking for that file
again.

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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-25 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:50 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It really depends on which distro you're running.  Unless you have
 Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm.

Yeah. Well, I would not have suggested it if I wasn't running something
similar to you Lonnie... using RedHat 7.2 w/ gnome 1.4.1, kde 2.2.2 and
xfce-3.8.14d. I mostly use XFce so I could care less which *DM I use...
I'm just doing this to assist you in figuring out your problems.

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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-25 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:11:13 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:50 -0800 (PST)
  Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It really depends on which distro you're running.  Unless you have
   Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm.
  
  Yeah. Well, I would not have suggested it if I wasn't running
  something
  similar to you Lonnie... using RedHat 7.2 w/ gnome 1.4.1, kde 2.2.2
  and
  xfce-3.8.14d. I mostly use XFce so I could care less which *DM I
  use...
  I'm just doing this to assist you in figuring out your problems.
 
 I'm running XFCE as well.  I'm not 100% on what you need to do to
 switch login managers.  I figured it out once a few months ago, but it
 was far from obvious.  All i know is that i had to dig through the
 various shell scripts under /etc/X11/ to find it.

OK, I'll poke around and see what I can find under /etc/X11 - we were
given the rest of the day off due to a snow storm so I'll have time to
play with this ;) I know that with Debian all I had to do was apt-get
install gdm (IIRC) and it removed kdm and installed gdm whereas
Slackware required me to edit one of the startup scripts. I'll get back
to you in a couple of hours on this.

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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-25 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:21:55 -0700
Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:11:13 -0800 (PST)
 Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm running XFCE as well.  I'm not 100% on what you need to do to
  switch login managers.  I figured it out once a few months ago, but
  it was far from obvious.  All i know is that i had to dig through
  the various shell scripts under /etc/X11/ to find it.
 
 OK, I'll poke around and see what I can find under /etc/X11 - we were
 given the rest of the day off due to a snow storm so I'll have time to
 play with this ;) I know that with Debian all I had to do was apt-get
 install gdm (IIRC) and it removed kdm and installed gdm whereas
 Slackware required me to edit one of the startup scripts. I'll get
 back to you in a couple of hours on this.

OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In
/etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll find either DESKTOP=KDE or
DESKTOP=GNOME, whichever one you have dictates which DM you get -
KDE gets you KDM and GNOME gets you GDM. FWIW, I changed mine so I
got GDM in RL5 and was able to login to XFce, the only thing I can find
wrong is the system sounds are completely FUBAR'd (much like what
unshielded sparkplug cables do for a car radio). So, now we need to
figure out what's different with X between your system and mine...

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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-25 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:08:20 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way.
  In
  /etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll find either DESKTOP=KDE or
  DESKTOP=GNOME, whichever one you have dictates which DM you get -
  KDE gets you KDM and GNOME gets you GDM. FWIW, I changed mine so
  I got GDM in RL5 and was able to login to XFce, the only thing I can
  find
  wrong is the system sounds are completely FUBAR'd (much like what
  unshielded sparkplug cables do for a car radio). So, now we need to
  figure out what's different with X between your system and mine...
 
 Did you build 4.2.0 from source, or install the binaries?  Mine was
 from source.  My system is mostly RH-7.1 stuff, with some older 6.2
 here  there, and a very small amount of 7.2 packages.  

I built 4.2.0 from source as well. My system is mostly RH-7.2 with any
newer packages all built from source (into rpms and installed that way
whenever possible). Did you reconfigure X after installing  4.2.0 or
keep your old config? (I kept the old one myself) I'll send you
whichever config files you'd like to see (off list) if you think it
would help at all.

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Re: [ot] seti

2002-01-24 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:47:26 +0800
Chang[linuxism] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 can your clients talk to seti headquarter?

?? well, their servers were down for a little while but they seem to be
back online again now.

HTH??
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Re: Bad Track Record

2002-01-24 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:58:20 -0700
Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is what I've been trying to send to the right place, but
 seemingly cannot. Please forgive my bumbling. I'm drunk. Ok, I'm not
 drunk, but its a good excuse.
 
 Tyler
 
 PS: Thanks to Tim for pointing things out. TCR
 
 ***OLD MESSAGE***
 So far I have received 22 name/loc statements. Would it be possible to
 get a member count for this list? I'd like to get more statements
 before I produce the map, but It's not all that hard to do. The
 posting address is:
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 You know, the beer'll be nice but I can't wait to see the party hats!!

Yup. Brand-new Kurtwerks Model I vintage N.O.S. units... 


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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-24 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about
 ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of
 xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names...
 watch out everyone

I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any of
the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list lately.
One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from
microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see some
errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to certain
font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but it/they don't
seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what?

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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-24 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:15:35 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500
  Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about
   ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of
   xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names...
   watch out everyone
  
  I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any
  of the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list
  lately.
  One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from
  microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see
  some
  errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to
  certain font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but
  it/they don't seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what?
 
 Other than the weird problem that i am having going directly to RL5,
 4.2.0 is running flawlessly for me as well.

Must be a problem with GDM (you did say that was what you were using,
correct?) because I use KDM when using RL5 and haven't had any problems.
Is there a quick and dirty way for me to change to using GDM so I can
check it out? There gotta be a way, I used to do it with Slackware all
the time...  Anyway, I thought that if I could try it out and
(hopefully) get it to work alright here then maybe we could compare
config files and figure out your problem... or provide more fuel for a
bug report.

Just an idea...

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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread Myles Green
 recorders in regular production. The 240L, at a
 price of $269.50 used a special long-playing wire cartridge that held
 4 hours of wire. Otherwise it looked like both the tape model and the
 240S, which used a 2-hour wire cartridge and sold for $249.50.
 
 Another innovation was the introduction of more conventional
 recorders. After years of offering only half of a complete dictation
 system, Minifon finally developed a restyled, non-portable office
 machine, mainly for use by a transcriber, with pedal controls.
 
 By the mid-1960s, Minifon was trying to market its machines as
 multi-purpose devices suitable for nearly any recording need. In
 addition to the hi-fi and long-playing machines, the company offered
 an astounding variety of optional equipment such as foot controls,
 microphones, external amplifiers and loudspeakers, headsets, external
 power supplies, telephone recording attachments, conference recording
 adapters. One of the most interesting options were the miniature
 microphones intended to allow users to make spy recordings. In
 addition to a small tie-clip microphone, the Minifon could be equipped
 with a microphone disguised as a wrist- watch.
 
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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:43:06 -
kriss rolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snipped a bunch of crap

So... who was it that was asking what was wrong with having a newsgroup?

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Re: opinions on this iptables script

2002-01-22 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:51:03 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Myles Green babbled on about:
  Is that in your script Doug? If so, I'm gonna give it a whirl 'cause
  I've got 6 or 7 IIS ...errm.. Users... contributing to excessivly
  large http_access logs =(
 
 nope. the code for that is in hte archives of this list over at 
 mail-archive.com

Ta.

 if it's just logging you're concerned with, you can do:

This is probably what I should do ;)

 ##
 ## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
 ##
snip 

 Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again...

let's hope she doesn't ;)

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Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-21 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 00:10:58 -0500
Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy.  If I don't get
 there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to
 see the Brickyard 400 in August.   
 
 Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays.  :-)

Eh? What'sat? Kurt's a Hoser?

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Re: ping

2002-01-21 Thread Myles Green

... pong?

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:40:42 -0500
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an interesting experience

2002-01-19 Thread Myles Green

Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW
(Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he
asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box. Now, my linux
box is based on Red Hat 7.2 and has been updated to kernel 2.4.17 -
nothing out of the ordinary. Usually, I custom build my kernels with
only the things needed for the hardware in the particular box being
used. This time I chose to use the RedHat config scripts contained in
the RedHat supplied kernel sources (I used the 2.4.9 sources obtained
via the up2date utility) and did a make oldconfig. Yes, this resulted in
a rather large vmlinuz image and a downright HUGE /lib/modules/2.4.17
but the end result was very surprising.

In less than one hour I was able to install the hardware, have the
system detect it (kudzu), read /var/log/messages to see which module the
Adaptec SCSI card needed, modprobe the module and add a line to
/etc/rc.d/rc.local (modprobe aic7xxx), reboot and mount a CD. Then I
linked /dev/cdrom2 to /dev/scd2, added a line to /etc/fstab and
proceeded to burn a CD at 4x using Xcdroast. Oh, and I also removed the
hardware again in that hour.

I was impressed to say the least.

Just thought I'd pass on this experience...

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Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-19 Thread Myles Green

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:08:28 -0500
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 19 January 2002 10:58 am, Myles Green wrote:
  In less than one hour I was able to install the hardware, have the
  system detect it (kudzu), read /var/log/messages to see which module
  the Adaptec SCSI card needed, modprobe the module and add a line to
  /etc/rc.d/rc.local (modprobe aic7xxx), reboot and mount a CD. Then I
  linked /dev/cdrom2 to /dev/scd2, added a line to /etc/fstab and
  proceeded to burn a CD at 4x using Xcdroast. Oh, and I also removed
  the hardware again in that hour.
 
  I was impressed to say the least.
 
  Just thought I'd pass on this experience...
 
 Ok...   write that up into a 'getting started'  couple of paragraphs
 that can be placed into the manual that comes with the CD-RW.   :o)

OK, but do you think they'd actually include it? =)
 
 Impressive yes  but there is a long, long way to go.

True enough but this would not have been possible even a year ago - I
would have had to work much harder at getting it to work.

BTW Bruce, are you still using OS/2 anywhere? Are you aware of any GUI
software besides RSJ for burning CD-R(W)'s? Seems my father wasn't
impressed enough to make the switch to Linux. Oh, and he's legally blind
so it pretty much has to be a GUI application to suit him. Thanks.

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Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:05:36 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:19:33 -0500
 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream:
 
 [snip]
  
  Not related to your main questions, but you are aware that a 
  Ctl-Alt-ESC  in X will give you a skull-and-crossbones for a cursor?
  After getting that, just click in any window and that window will be
  killed.
 
 OK, well, it's not an X function.  It's either a KDE (window manager)
 function, or a Gnome (middleware) function.  But this doesn't work in
 Blackbox, Ion, or XFCE (my choices in order of preference).

FWIW, I use xkill in XFce if I need to

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Re: Microsoft Support OT

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:37:48 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about:
 
 Mentally Crippled Self Evangelists  - sort of what windows zealots
 are!
 
 Keith B.
 
 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I have told them that MCSE stands for Must Consult with 
  Someone Else,
  
   Mouse Certified System Engineer
  
  Mandrake Consultant  Suse Expert
 
 My Certification Somewhat Exaggerated

Mine-sweeper Consultant, Solitaire Expert

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Re: Attn: Doug Hunley re forum software.

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:55:00 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Douglas wern't you looking for something like this??
 
 AnyBoard Forum
 Rated: 3 Penguins -  Category: TUCOWS Linux  Internet  Web Based 
 Applications
 Version: 8.3
 License: Freeware 
 AnyBoard is a fully featured web community and collaboration tool
 Try it:
 http://lyris.tucows.com/cgi-bin/nph-t.pl?U=24774M=425664MS=41514

The local L.U.G. use[s,d] a WikiWiki board (http://calgary.linux.ca/)
which seemed to work well, last I saw.

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New URL for Alberta mirror

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green

http://mylesg.homelinux.net/

The old site will remain for a short while, probably until the end of
January.

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Re: IBM whitepaper: securing Linux servers

2002-01-17 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:36:44 -0700
Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hung my mail client - never downloaded the .pdf file...

http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/linux/whitepapers/security/

try accessing it now, you should see a bunch of files listed in a tree

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Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-17 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:11:56 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit:
   Anyone successfully built Xscreensaver-4.00 from source?
   I'm running into annoying gtk errors when compiling.  I've never
   had problems building previous versions.
  
  It went okay here. Whassa matter?
 
 Is this on your Slackware box?  
 I've attempted it on a RH7.x box and i get errors like these during
 'make':
snip 

I just built it on a RH7.2 box using the included (in the source) spec
file (rpm -ba --target i686 xscreensaver.spec) no problem.

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Re: FreeBSD again ot

2002-01-13 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:25:20 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:46, David A. Bandel wrote:
 
  I may be mistaken (often am), but I believe me too is trademarked
  AOLusers. ;-)
 
 moi aussie?

non, vous et norfolker, n'est pas?

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-09 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:11:55 -0800
Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just want to see if I understand. If you add the
 
 append=hdb=ide-scsi
 
 line to your lilo.conf, then does that line cause the scsi module to
 load? Or do you need to compile scsi support in to the kernel, AND use
 that line? And if you have hdb and hdc, cd-rw and dvd, do you need to
 add hdc=ide-scsi to that append?

I have a CDRW and DVD player on hdc and hdd and had to append
hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi for them to be seen as anything other than
plain ol' CDROMs.

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Re: Memory lapse

2002-01-03 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:45:33 +
Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was it Myles Green who wrote on Thursday 03 January 2002 05:12:
  On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:49 -0700
 
 [snip]
 
  dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda  bs=446 count=1
 
 Pardon a detail improvement, but I believe it actually is bs=512. This
 can be checked by simply doing ls -l /boot/boot.0300. The MBR is 512
 bytes long, so the memory creaks out.

Well, I wrote that verbatum (actually it was a C  P) from the Doc I
refered to (lilo mini-howto) but now that you mention it, I do seem to
recall using bs=512 when I last used it.  Sorry for the confusion :(

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Re: Memory lapse

2002-01-03 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:48:38 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On January 02, Myles Green enlightened our ignorance thusly:
  On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:49 -0700
 
 [deletia]
 
  As Ian pointed out, you can do this with LiLo itself or here's
  another one from the lilo mini-howto that will work as well (I can
  verify this as I've used it more than once with success):
  
  dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda  bs=446 count=1
 
 The reason bs=446 is correct is that boot loaders use the first 446
 bytes of the MBR. The next 64 bytes contain the partition table. The
 last 2 bytes store a magic number typically used to store a value
 that confirms that the indicated sector is a boot sector.

Thanks for explaining that Kurt, I was begining to wonder which value
(512 vs. 446) was the correct one. I know I've used bs=512 in the past
and it worked but the Doc I referenced yesterday had bs=446 which I
didn't really notice until I saw the post from Declan this morning.
Between having Microsoft rammed down my throat at school and running
into changes in the Linux documents like the above it's no wonder I'm
constant state of confusion these days.

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Re: opinions on iptables scripts?

2002-01-03 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:06:52 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts
 (iptables based). What are you guys using?
 rc.firewall?
 shorewall?
 mon mothma?
 others?

I'm using 'narc' available here:
http://www.knowplace.org/dl/narc-0.5.1.tgz

I found it at freshmeat.net

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Re: elx

2002-01-02 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:01:05 -0800
Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 30 December 2001 03:22 pm, you wrote:
  [ snips ]
 
  On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:10:46 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:48 pm, you wrote:
  If your typos are in a product you're selling, I won't buy
  it.  If you can't proofread, how good are you at testing
  your software

 Yes, you are.  I didn't find any typos in Mandrake or Caldera
 distros that failed to install on my PC or in Redhat distros
 that had a flaky compiler/glibc environment for everyone's PC,
 but I'm too picky to use them any more.
   
I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely
shows how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more
and more companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's
pathetic.
  
   Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to
   go change permissions on quite a few  items in order to use them
   as a user. This is not the first distro I've tried (nor probably
   the last) Most machines at this site run Caldera other than this
   one (my lab rat). I've not had to go through so many changes on
   the other machines as I had to on this one. I'm constantly looking
   for distro's that can be installed and used by wintendo converts
   and at first thought that elx would fill this requirement. But for
   now, I'll continue playing with it and see what the 1.0 release is
   like and hopefully they'll see that running primarily as root is
   really not an option. Can you imagine a wintendo convert running
   linux as root? Good grief, I shudder just thinking about it. JMHO
   and this to me is a BFD!
 
  You pays you money, you takes you chances.
 
  In my case, I paid absolutely zip and got an extremely well-crafted
  and functional product for the price of a few hours download and two
  burnt CDs.  I also got access to a professionally constructed web
  site with a well grounded plan to encourage Windows users to migrate
  to linux as well as an offer to help with that endeavor.  I got a
  desktop environment that will probably appeal to a lot of Windows
  refugees.  I got immediate response for my questions from the
  developers.  I got all-in-all fewer bugs than I ever did from
  Mandrake and Caldera and SuSE and gentoo distros I've used in the
  past.  And just for a bonus, I got one #@! typo in a pre-release
  distro, and that fact has you anal types in an uproar.
 
  Now Ted has a slightly more rational complaint - ease of use for
  device allocation which is one of the not-so-user-friendly areas of
  a *nix system.  Every distro is going to handle this differently. 
  Either you set permissions to permit anyone access to devices and
  deal with the security ramifications, or you set exclusive
  permissions and require use of root to alter those permissions as
  required.  I've had much grief on Caldera distros and others just
  getting pppd functions to work.  This is nothing new.
 
  Granted, no distro is going to recommend running as root other than
  briefly to accomplish brief tasks, nor does elx do that, but every
  new Linux user is going to need to learn how and how not to use the
  power of root.
 
  I don't have any serial devices, Ted, so I can't comiserate.  The
  elx distro has been easier for me to install, manipulate, and tailor
  than any I've used in the past.  I would not hesitate to recommend
  this one to a newbie.
 
 Us anal types? uncool, unnecessary.and with that I'm done.

Vern, i hope that's only with this thread... there is another
solution it's called a killfile. i'm about to use it right now...
collins -- PLONK

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Re: OTRe: Is This Thing On?

2002-01-02 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:18:44 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On December 30, Tony Alfrey enlightened our ignorance thusly:
  On Sunday 30 December 2001 09:47 pm,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I *still* dislike sendmail
  
  On what?? On drugs? g
 
 Well, I've often wondered if Eric Allman, because he was at Berkeley,
 was using another famous Berkeley product when he designed the
 sendmail configuration syntax...

might have... ;)

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Re: Memory lapse

2002-01-02 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:49 -0700
Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,  Group:
 
 I want to delete this Linux and the associated partitions from my hard
 drive.  Currently, I dual-boot SuSE 7.2 and Windows XP.  I think LILO 
 was installed in the MBR.  
 
 IIRC, that's what boot=/dev/hda means.  I've attached my 
 /etc/lilo.conf in hopes some kind reader will verify that this is so.
 
 I remember that there's a command line exercise that will restore the 
 original MBR, but I can't find it and don't remember it.

As Ian pointed out, you can do this with LiLo itself or here's another
one from the lilo mini-howto that will work as well (I can verify this
as I've used it more than once with success):

dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda  bs=446 count=1

 I suppose if all else fails I can boot with a Windows 9x boot disk and
 restore the original MBR with fdisk /MBR.

this will work also, in *most* cases, however I have run into situations
where this wasn't successful and the end result was a drive that
wouldn't boot and a screen that scrolled 1's and 0's (binary) endlessly
when you tried. the cure was to use the dd command. as always, YMMV but
it worked well for me.

 Any help?
 
 
 Here's /etc/lilo.conf:
 
 # LILO configuration file
 # Start LILO global Section
 # If you want to prevent console users to boot with init=/bin/bash,
 #  restrict usage of boot params by setting a passwd and using the 
 option
 #  restricted.
 #password=bootpwd
 #restricted
 append=BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi
 boot=/dev/hda
 #compact   # faster, but won't work on all systems.
 vga=771
 message=/boot/message
 menu-scheme=Wg:kw:Wg:Wg
 read-only
 prompt
 timeout=80
 # End LILO global Section
 #
 image = /boot/vmlinuz
   root = /dev/hda3
   label = linux
   initrd = /boot/initrd
  
 #
 image = /boot/vmlinuz.suse
   root = /dev/hda3
   label = suse
   initrd = /boot/initrd.suse
   optional
  
 #
 other = /dev/hda1
   label = windows
   table = /dev/hda
  
 #
 image = /boot/memtest.bin
   label = memtest86
 
 
 Thanks, best regards, and Happy New Year to all who may choose to 
 observe the custom.
 
 Glenn
 
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Re: OTHapppy B-day Doug

2001-12-18 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:18:58 -0500
Tina M. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Congrats..

Have a good one Doug!

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Re: Win95 replacement

2001-12-17 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:52:09 -0500
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Previously, Anita Lewis chose to write:
  that's the general idea.  I just finished installing slackware on a
  laptop with 4Mb RAM and using floppies.  First there was the boot
  floppy with the
 
 So there might be a use for my old 486SX-33 Gateway laptop with 8MB
 RAM? Hmmm. Maybe I could turn it into a linux terminal... It needs a
 NIC, though...
 
 Anybody done this? Made a linux terminal using an old laptop. Is 8MB
 and a 486SX-33 enough horsepower for an X-Terminal?

perhaps as a terminal it might, but i tried an installation using a
DX2-50 w/ 8MB... X managed to start but it took about 5 minutes and it
wasn't usable except (of course) at the command line. 

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Re: ping - ignore

2001-12-13 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:36:42 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hate sendmail.

me too ;)

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Re: cd as scsi

2001-12-11 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:00:19 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My burner is seen as ascsi device, obviously if I am going to burn
with it.
 However I also want to see my dvd/cdrom reader as a scsi device so as
I can 
 use it for DAO burning. Stuffed if I can get /dev/sr1 to be
'seen'..
 
 I have hdc=ide-scsi in lilo, I have changed /dev/dvd to point to
/dev/sr1.

do you have both drives on the same ide cable? both of mine are and i
have hdc=ide-scsi (for CDR-RW) and hdd=ide-scsi (for DVD) in lilo.conf.
my /dev/dvd points to /dev/scd1 ('coz i'm using redhat).

 Whwn I try a mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr1 /dvd it says that dvd is an
unknown 
 device. Yet I can mount it on sr0 which is noramlly where
/dev/cdrecorder
 mounts for the burner. I tried a direct mount to /dev/sr1 with the
same error.

what does your fstab look like? here's a peek at that part of mine:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdromiso9660 user,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/cdrom1/mnt/cdrom1   iso9660 user,kudzu,ro 0 0

obviously, /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/scd0 and /dev/cdrom1 is a link
to /dev/scd1. your mount points will be different...

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Re: more KDE build problems

2001-12-06 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:15:15 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:25:46 -0800 (PST)
  Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Well, i give up.  I'm descending into RPM dependency hell here,
  where
   each level gets uglier than the last.  I think this is a sign that
  KDE
   isn't for me.  
   
  
  KDE 2.x.x isn't something I'd want to cuddle up next to either.
 
 XFCE is a beauty to behold, and a joy to build.  
 XFCE forever

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Re: How to run DVD under Linux

2001-12-05 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:18:39 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am running Xine quite nicely on Suse 7.3 also vlc does a good job
too. But I
 wonderr what rpms you have installed as well as the xine-lib and
xine-ui ??
 Xine-d4d ? Xine-alsa ? Xine-w32dll etc ... There are
aso some more
 gotchya libraries needed. Let me know what you have installed and I'll
let you know
 what else you need.

I grabbed all the RPM's on this page:
http://skyblade.homeip.net/xine/XINE-0.9.6/i686.RPMs/ and installed
them. I was just playing around with it again and clicked the d4d button
and the the play button and I'm now watching... ermm... Babar, a
children's DVD from a box of breakfast cerial because it's the only dvd
in the house (not for long though!) g

Anyway, I think Xine works quite a bit better than Ogle did, much
smoother playback and switching back and forth from fullscreen is a snap
even at 1280x1024. Wow, I had no idea it would be that simple to get
DVD's playing :o)

/me happy camper

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Re: How to run DVD under Linux

2001-12-04 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:13:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 I have search around and I cannot figure how to use my new DVD drive
under Linux.
 
 I have SuSE 7.3 Pro with xine-0.9.4 installed.  I have a i810 Celeron
mobo
 w/Celeron 366 CPU and  kde 2.2.1 installed. I have an ide CDROM @
/dev/hdb
 and a 10X DVD @ /dev/hdd.  I have put a movie in the DVD drive, but it
will
 not play nor is it recognized under xine. I have put hdd=ide-scsi on
the
 command line and have ide-scsi module installed.  The start up
messages show
 the DVD @ /dev/hdd.  I have symlinked /dev/hdd to /dev/dvd (or should
this
 be rdvd?).
 
 What or where is a step x step to show how to get this running?  I am
tired of
 the choppiness of windows PowerDVD 3.0 and am hoping Linux is a better
 choice for viewing DVD's.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Keith B.

I managed to play a DVD (OK, it was a kid's Babar DVD from a cereal box)
under Linux (redhat7.2) for the first time lastnight.

First I grabbed Ogle and dependencies:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/ogle/

follow the link to the ogle download page:

http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/downloads.shtml

and follow the directions there. The install is painless if you use an
RPM based distro...

Second, I have a CD-RW and a DVD (as hdc and hdd) seen as /dev/scd0 and
/dev/scd1 (zero and one) so I had to make a link:

ln -s /dev/scd1 /dev/dvd.

next, disable automount if it's running...

After that I popped in the disk, opened ogle and -File - Open disk,
started the disk playing. I would imagine that as developement
progresses it will get better but for now, there are a few problems
(that I encountered):

* it played right past the menu to the first track on the disk I used to
test this. 
* play is not 100% jitter-free
* full screen works but couldn't find a way to quit besides
ctrl+alt+backspace

With Xine, I could see the files on the dvd (xine-0.9.6) using the
playlist viewer but got a blank, black screen when I pressed the play
button - I even waited several minutes.

FWIW my hardware is:

Shuttle AK-31 motherboard
AMD Athlon 1.4Ghz 
512 MB DDR RAM
266Mhz FSB
nVidia GeForce2 400MX 64MB
SB Live!
LG 16x DVD
LG 16x10x40 CDR-RW
15GB Maxtor ATA 100 (/boot and /)
40GB IBM ATA 100 (swap and /home)

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Re: @home still serving

2001-12-02 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:43:48 -0500
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On December  2, 2001 12:36 am, Ian wrote:
 
  I for one, will gladly see my service divorced from @home, it was
their
  s#!t email servers that led to my purchasing and hosting of my own
  domain.  I was missing mails, receiving replies to the list, before
the
  post I'd sent, other emails were arriving 10 (yes ten) days late.
 
 Precisely. Ditto here.
 
 In fact, I'm now looking at alternatives. Rogers does not seem to be
able top 
 come up with a Linux friendly way of running their dhcp servers. There
are 
 some silly Windowsizations (e.g. winbios identities) that make it
very 
 difficult to successfully get a dhcp lease. My server here keeps
coming back 
 reporting that the udp packet returned from Rogers dhcp sever was of a

 non-standard length and was not recognized.
 
 Has anyone heard anything (good or bad) about IStop (www.istop.com )?
They 
 say they officially support Linux and offer a variety of bandwidth
schemes 
 including fixed IPs and no prohibition on legitimately-used servers.

I've heard nothing either way about IStop, but if Telus is in your neck
o' the woods you might want to give give them a try. They don't
'officially' support Linux but I've been using them for years, first
with dial-up and later with aDSL, and I've had zero problems so far. 

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Re: [Fwd: Mandrake Linux Community Newsletter - Issue #20]

2001-11-27 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:27:26 -0500 (EST)
Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Lee wrote:
 
  Please excuse forwarding this to the list, but I think you might
find
  the first item interesting. It's about time some Linux distro kicks
M$
  in the knee caps, even if they are French.
  
  Lee
  
 
 Hey, we're not all French ;^)
 
 Good to be back on the list folks.

Welcome back Stew!

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Re: Quake...

2001-11-25 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:23:34 -0700
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:00:57 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 07:36:45PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
   I'm a bit sheepish to admit this... but I've just rediscovered
  QUAKE. It
  
  Your secret's safe with me.
 
 Totally OT, but I'm probably the only living linux afficionado who has
 never played or dreamed of playing QUAKE. grin

nope... there's at least two of us ;)

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Re: recompiles on Suse 7.3

2001-11-25 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:44:37 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 26 November 2001 10:10, Net Llama enunciated:
 
  The problem with 15, to the best of my understanding is that it
forgets
  to write all changes to disk when you shutdown the system.  Thus,
you
  end up with massive amounts of fs corruption, especially on boxes
that
  have had long uptimes.  It has nothing to do with the fs being used.
 
 Thanks Lonni..

yes, thanks for that bit of info... I'm now running 2.4.16pre1 as well.
I haven't come across any fs corruption yet either but my uptime was
only something like 50 hrs. 

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Re: A quick review. Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-22 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:54:10 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:51, Myles Green wrote:
  I'm not having the kdesud problem here, for whatever reason. I just
ran
  xcdroast as root and setup my 'mere-mortal' user as a user of
xcdroast
  and I've burned *many* copies of RH7.2 to pass out at the college -
as
  'me' not 'root' - since then.
 
 /usr/bin/whatever - 'consolehelper'
 
 consolehelper then wants root password.
 
 The 'fix' is
 
 rm /usr/bin/whatever
 ln -s /usr/SBIN/whatever  /usr/bin/whatever
 chmod u+s /usr/sbin/whatever

I did an xhost +localhost and then 'su -' to root and called xcdroast,
did the setup thing and closed it off. You said you upgraded to 7.2 from
7.1? I didn't, I blew away slackware 8 and installed clean. Maybe that's
where the difference lays?

  well, it got my burner but missed the dvd in the append statement, I
had
  to add it but that's about all it missed.
 
 I know nuthin about dvd. what are the details please?

I know almost as much as you do snivel it's the time, I need more
hours in a day! /snivel The Llllama! posted a step on playing avi/divx
not long ago and there's also a step on dvd full-screen with nVidia
video cards, those will be where I start ...just as soon as I find some
of that ellusive thing called 'spare time'. 
 
 yes, you do have to create (a ~/bin) but isn't that 'normal'?
 
 I don't follow your reasoning for that. I see it as 'incomplete'.

Perhaps it is, I dunno... I created ~/bin quite some time ago (when you
*did* have to do it all by hand) for my own little collection of handy
scripts so I just never noticed 'they' didn't, I guess. It's always just
been included in all my backups and carried from one distro to the next
with me. A person could always just make an /etc/skel/bin so it *would*
be created for any new users, if they were so inclined. ;)

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Re: ext3 query

2001-11-22 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:47:08 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I have a partition ext2 formatted will using tunefs to make it ext3

 compromise that data ?

It shouldn't, didn't on mine at least. AFAIK all it does is create a
special .journal file under /.journal and (in my case) /home/.journal
and /boot/.journal. But if you've rolled your own kernel and haven't
patched it with the appropriate ext3 patch then it will still mount as
ext2... or at least, it did here. I've got the patch for 2.4.14 if you
want it, or IIRC somebody else said to try the latest pre-kernel
(2.4.15pre6 I think), that's six patches though ;)


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Re: Web Server Working?

2001-11-22 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:36:05 -0500
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 22 November 2001 12:24 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
  Can anyone out there hit my web site, http://www.kurwerks.com?
 
 Probably could if you speeled (sp) it right :o)

nope, didn't heelp ;)

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Re: Red Hat 7.2 Gotchas

2001-11-20 Thread Myles Green

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:16:56 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, list,
 
 I'm finishing up a chapter for an unspecified book on Red Hat Linux
 and you have the opportunity to contribute. In particular, if you ran
 into problems either installing or configuring a stock installation
 of 7.2 (or, perchance, one of the pre-7.2 betas), tell me what it is
 and I may be able to add it to a chapter on troubleshooting and
 problem solving. If you do so and it makes it into the chapter, you
 will have both my gratitude and a mention in the acknowledgements.
 Ayup...

OK, I did a re-install lastnight so I could nuke everything on hda (way
too many partitions). I chose the 'expert' install and then selected
'custom' and went from there. I set my partitions up as follows:

hda1 /boot (50MB, ext3)
hda2 / (balance of 15GB drive, ext3)
hdb1 swap (1024MB)
hdb2 /home (balance of 40GB drive, ext3)

The only things I've noticed are:

- Logitech Marble mouse (USB or PS/2) was seen as a 3 button mouse by
anaconda - easily changed during install.

- during the lilo config portion the append box had only hdc=ide-scsi,
needed to add hdd=ide-scsi.

- although X was configured and 'works' outta the box, pressing
ctrl+alt+num-pad+ or - does't change resolutions and the truetype
fonts I added aren't seen because the fontpath section only points to
unix/:7100.

- I've found the stock firewall to be quite good but had to add a '-l'
(dash ell) to the rules in order to get logging.

So far most everything I've checked out 'just works' including burning
CD's (haven't tried playing a DVD yet), though I did add xcdroast myself
and used that to burn.

This install, I included apache and anon ftp but haven't set them up or
anything as of yet so, nothing to report there. I will be setting both
of these up later this week.

Overall, I was/am very impressed with this version of RedHat, including
the up2date feature - so much so that I intend to purchace a boxed
edition which I haven't done since Caldera released eD2.4 way back when.

There you have it, my $0.02 =)
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Re: Dual CD's

2001-11-18 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:43:55 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have both a burner, and a normal cd-rom.  The software I'm using
needs to 
 see both of these devices as scsi to do cd - cd copying. Does anyone
know 
 how to massage /dev/hdc and /dev/hdb BOTH as scsi? as in 
 append=hdb=ide-scsi 

I have an LG re-writeable burner and a DVD which is seen but not
appended in my lilo.conf, the burner is hdc and the dvd is hdd:

image=/vmlinuz
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append=hdc=ide-scsi

/dev/sr0  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto   
noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0

(using RH 7.2)

I can mount either or both drives via cli or gui but haven't got the DVD
working as anything but a normal cdrom (yet).

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Re: OT Volume Down?

2001-11-15 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:49:05 -0500
Burns MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it my imagination, or is the volume on this list way down over what
it was just a month or two ago? 

either that, or we have the same imagination... 8^0

 Did we lose a bunch or people that never re-subbed during the hardware
failure crisis?

It seems we lost a bunch during the 'crisis' who just haven't made their
way back yet =(

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Re: kernel 2.4.10 blues

2001-10-29 Thread Myles Green

Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From the release notes, it looks to me that most of the changes are
 *alot* of Alan Cox merges and other assorted stupid bug fixes.  Not
 much
 in the way of new features (as it should be).

...but I thought new features were introduced in the devel series
(2.1.x, 2.3.x, 2.5.x) and only patches and fixes went into the stable
series (2.2.x, 2.4.x, 2.6.x). or have I got that wrong? Version level=2,
Release level=4, Patch level=x

just wondering...
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Re: who has suse 7.3

2001-10-29 Thread Myles Green

David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am I the only one who thinks that this business model of shipping
 distros via 
 mail is getting rather outdated?

nope.
 
 Burning your own cds seems so much more convenient (saves lots of
 shipping 
 time) and a lot cheaper when shipping costs are cut out.  Of course if
 you're 
 were desperate for printed documentation or something stuff like that
 could 
 be shippable.. but for the rest why not just burn your own cds.

show me the iso's and I'll gladly burn them... just haven't found any
yet myself.
 
 I'm thinking of a payment method sorta along the lines of Mandrake's 
 donations page... but this time nonoptional and with a charge per
 gigabyte of 
 data downloaded from suse's ftp servers or something buy an ftp
 account 
 and transfer quota instead of paying for a nice box.

works if you have a credit card - I don't use them myself as the intrest
rate is absurd.

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Re: who has suse 7.3

2001-10-29 Thread Myles Green

Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Myles Green wrote:
  
  works if you have a credit card - I don't use them myself as the
 intrest
  rate is absurd.
 
 It's paying more to have a company ship me something at bulk rates and
 charge me 2 times as much as it would cost me to ship it myself that
 burns me off.

 Myles, if you pay 'em at the end of the month they don't charge
 interest. ;)

heh heh, Ooohh!! So _that's_ how that works... ;)

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Re: who has suse 7.3

2001-10-28 Thread Myles Green

Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  
  anyone?
 
 Losta people who live in Germany...not many on this side of the pond.
 I've been in touch with several software retailers and even they
 couldn't tel me when it would show up at their stores.

same here - no luck.

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Re: SuSE isos are back

2001-10-20 Thread Myles Green

Douglas J Hunley wrote:

 I think you'll find SuSE very nice once you settle into it... but it will
 take some settling first...

Thanks for the heads up, I'm looking forward to using it. Didn't SuSe
start as a derivative of slackware, or have I got my wires crossed? (I'm
pretty sure I read that somewhere...)

Myles
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Re: OTHappy Birthday Myles

2001-10-20 Thread Myles Green

Michael Scottaline wrote:

 This one's for you Myles!!  ;o)
 A virtual digital beer!!  |:-)
 Mike
 
 --
 He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that
 fool you., he really is an idiot.
 
 -Groucho Marx
 
   
Name: confer-L.jpg
confer-L.jpgType: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)
Encoding: base64

Thanks Mike... but I think I had more than my fill of the real stuff
last night. My liver is pretty much shot due to hepatitis C and booze is
a no-no but last night I decided a 'few' wouldn't hurt me... boy was I
wrong, still very much 'green around the gills' this evening. I'm gonna
print this virtual beer out and look at it whenever I feel like having
the real thing. In this light, your signature is *very* fitting and I
feel like I'm the guy good old Groucho was referring to way back when.

As Keith put it so very well, there's no fool like an old fool. (even if
that fool is only middle aged)

and now I think I'll lay down again =)

Myles
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Re: OTHappy Birthday Myles

2001-10-19 Thread Myles Green

Net Llama wrote:
 
 --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote:
  
   Best wishes!
 
  blush thanks!
 
 You don't look a day over 20.

LOL... thanks!
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Re: OTHappy Birthday Myles

2001-10-19 Thread Myles Green

Keith Antoine wrote:
 
 On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:32, you whispered in my pinkie:
  DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote:
   Best wishes!
 
  blush thanks!
 
  Myles
 
 Geez, how does it feel to be 21 
 Oh, yeah! My you do dress up well, don't ya.

Thanks Keith, I needed that =)
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Re: SuSE isos are back

2001-10-18 Thread Myles Green

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 
 SuSE 7.2 pro isos are back at http://hunley.homeip.net/iso/
 discs 1-5 are there now, with 6 and 7 later today.
 MD5 sums are there also. Please read the README. Thanks!

Awesome! I'm d/l'ing the first one right now =) I was going to wait for
7.3 to ship (or at least arrive at my local geek emporium) before
booting win2k off this box but now I don't have to. Of course I'm still
going to buy 7.3 when it does arrive...

Thanks again Doug!!

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Re: OT New Grandson

2001-10-02 Thread Myles Green

At 10:23 PM 02/10/2001 -0400, you wrote:
On October  2, 2001 09:15 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote:
  Lisyt
 
wll I have been hard at work here slaving over this  that, BUT Sunday
  afternoon, it all came to a head. My second grandson was born, he is also
  my third grandchild. We are a strutten like a Peacock here. If you would
  like to see a couple 0of pictures of this little guy, soon to be a Linux
  user as his dad is, go to this url:
  http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/s/sandoval/
 

A cute little cuss indeed. Congrats Gramps.

BTW, I hate to say this, but I think he may be a Windows user. He's holding
up his three fingers, poised to invoke the Microsoft kernel management
tool... 'control-alt-delete'

BWAAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks... now I have to clean my keyboard and get the coffee outta my 
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Re: A couple of Questions about Debian Linux/Storm Linux

2001-09-22 Thread Myles Green

Hi Shane,

Yes, you can use software compiled for Debian 'Potato' 2.2r3. In fact,
with the correct lines in /etc/apt/sources.list you can continue
upgrading and updating to your hearts content. The apt utility is quite
handy ( see man apt ). You'll need to comment out or remove any/all
lines in your sources.list that point to stormix's ftp site... but if
you go to their web site (it was still working last time I looked) and
look for the 'Mirrors' page you find, I believe, at least one that still
works - also ftp.sourceforge.net contains a storm directory under the
mirrors directory. Use that before you go after the 'pure' debian stuff
and you'll be able to keep using the graphical config. and package
manager supplied by stormix. I have a remote box still running Storm but
it looks as though the owner has it shut down (probably to save on the
power bill) right now so I can't grab a copy of the custom  sources.list
for you. You might want to check out the archives of the debian users
mailing list as there were many many posts within the last year
detailing how to keep storm up to date.

HTH

Myles

Shane Broomhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have serveral boxed copies of Linux at home. I am planning on
 spending
 some time with all of them.  I have heard that Debian is one of the
 most
 stable Dists.  I have purchased 4-6 months ago a boxed set of storm,
 it is
 based on Debian.  I have heard Storm have ceased trading.  As Storm is
 based
 on Debian, does that mean that I can use it and get the Debian files
 to add
 to what I already have in the way of utilities I need ???
 
 For Example, can I use a normal Debina Kernal to upgrade my setup if I
 choose to run storm ??
 
 I have found a site that has Win Modem drivers for Linux, but mainly
 Debian,
 Could I use these with Storm ??
 
 Thanks in advance, I appreciate any assistance anyone might offer.
 
 
 Shane Broomhall
 
 Brisbane Australia
 
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Re: Webserver config (permissions?)

2001-09-21 Thread Myles Green

Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Previously, Myles Green chose to write:
  I just tried it from here and it seems to work just fine =)
 
  The Fathers Club
  St. Ursula School
 
  The above is what I see...
 
 Thanks Myles. Now, all I need to do is make a real web site. Might
 even get 
 myself a domain name...

You're welcome. Oh, it wasn't real? I didn't try going beyond the index
page. There are a few places where you can get dynamic redirecting to
your machine if you don't have a permanent IP address...

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God Bless The U.S.A.

2001-09-18 Thread Myles Green

Pardon my late posting on this but I've been trying desparately for the
last week to come to grips with the events that took place on September
11. I am not a person who usually sheds tears freely, in fact I can't
remember the last time I sobed uncontrolably over anything. As I write
this, I am droping tears onto my keyboard - in fact I can't even see my
keyboard right now for the tears. Please accept my condolances to those
who lost loved ones and/or friends in the tragedies of last week and
know that I and Canadians in general share in your grief. In closing, I
would like to present a link to a tribute to America that was sent to my
by my Father. It is a Flash media presentation and it took a while to
fully load on my DSL connection but it is well worth waiting for.

http://sa750.com/other/91101.htm

Respectfully,

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Re: syslog.conf: avoiding disk writes

2001-09-18 Thread Myles Green

Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I sit here typing away, my hard drive is constantly going on and
 off as
 those nasty worms try to infect (invade?) my computer.
 There is a way to prevent immediate syncing to the disk with syslog,
 but I
 can't figure it out and there are no examples in the man pages.
 The man page says to put a - in front of the selection. I did that,
 and
 things may have slowed down, but the drive is still pretty active.
 Does the
 entry below seem about right?
 
 -*.info;news,mail,authpriv,auth.none/var/log/messages 

I believe the dash goes here instead:
*.info;news,mail,authpriv,auth.none   - /var/log/messages 

but I may be wrong...

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Re: SETI...

2001-09-17 Thread Myles Green

Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jerry McBride wrote:
 % On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:55:39 -0400 Bruce Marshall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 % 
 % ---snipi--
 % 
 %  Piddly:o) 
 %  
 %  2,199  units done the last time I looked.Over 5 years
 worth.
 %  
 % 
 % I...errr... my computer... just finished the first unit... :.)
 
 471 last time I checked...

724 completed here...

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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Neededototot

2001-09-05 Thread Myles Green

Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:55, Keith Antoine wrote:
  burns wrote:
 
   I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to
concentrate
   on the screen with all this wind in my hair g.
 
  I am running very similar 1.2 gig Athlon 256mb DDR and Soltek MB 60
gig HD
  space. What this skiting about hair, in your case; What hair ??
 
 You lost it there Skippy, it's an old Kanuck tradition that on those
rare 
 occaisons they have a success, they stand on a chair , open their 
 trenchcoat..

ROFLMAO

/me wipes tears of laughter from eyes

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Re: star Office new video card

2001-09-05 Thread Myles Green

Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 XF86Setup

not if he's using xfree86-4.x, that tool went the way of the dinosaur
along with xfree86-3.x (for better or worse). Xfree86-4.x uses either
the original cli tool xf86config, or one of xf86cfg or, in the
latest version, X -configure to get you up and running. FWIW, I still
prefer to use xf86config - I guess old habits die hard.

myles

 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
  Had a problem installing Star Office, d/l it to a dir and called
'setup'
  but that fell over staright away as it could not seem to find a
stsrting
  point, Anyone else setup this 638 version ?
 
  New video card inserted and it now falls over on X startup; now that
  lizardx is defunct and I have not used any other what do i call
rather
  than doing a total install, just to reset to a new video card.
 
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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-05 Thread Myles Green

Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I moved from eDesktop 2.4 to Redhat 7.1 and when backing up and saving

 personal stuff, I tarred up my mail directory and bzip2 it up on to a 
 zip disk.
 
 Now when trying to retrieve my mail directory, it bunzip2's ok but it 
 won't untar.  
 
 tar xvf mail.tar puts me right back to a prompt with it still listed
as 
 mail.tar.  No error messages no nothing. Just the mail.tar file
staring 
 mockingly at me.  
 
 Nothing I try with the tar command works.  It just always goes back to

 the prompt.  Any ideas of how I can untar this?  I hate to lose all 
 those e-mail tips I've received over the years.

A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was the
command you used? Did you check the file size of the .tar file against
the original folder (IIRC, they should be very close to the same)? Did
you try unpacking the .tar.bz2 file with 'tar xyvf file.tar.bz2'?
Can you see what's in the .tar file using some utility like KDE's
Archiver or maybe midnight commander? And lastly, have you done this
successfully in the past? 

Sorry for all the questions but those are what came to mind.

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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue NeededTID

2001-09-04 Thread Myles Green

Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Myles Green wrote:
  burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to
  concentrate on 
   the screen with all this wind in my hair g.
  
  OK, now I'm jealous... 
  
  /me who has to wear a hat just to keep from blinding passing pilots
when
  the sun is shining ;-)
 
 So *that's* what the pilot on my flight yesterday was cursing about.
 ;-)

err... prolly was... I ran out with the garbage and forgot to put a hat
on ;-)

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Re: freshmeat?

2001-09-04 Thread Myles Green

Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone else getting strange results from freshmeat tonight?

as in using the search engine? no, not really... just did a search a
little while ago and it seemed to be fine.

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Re: jblinux experiences

2001-08-27 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:13:53 +0700
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:37:21 -0600 Myles Green
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks for the pointer... looks like it might be interesting. Do you
  happen to know if there is an FTP install? 
 
 You can ftp all the packages to a directory and install from that

OK, that works for me =) thanks again.

 directory, but there is no fetch the packages on the fly like there is
 with gentoo.

 The only other flaw I forgot to mention:  jbl doesn't provide the
 sr_mod.o module, so you will need to customize the kernel to get
 support for CD-RW.

This is OK too, one of the first things I do on my systems is build a
new kernel.
 
 The installer found my sound card (esssolo1) and NIC (tulip) without a
 hitch, and DHCP is selectable.
 
 I have cups working for my printer as well.  USB support is there, but

I've been unable to get past printing the test page with slackware 8 /
apsfilter and I've just installed cups / qtcups and and am now trying to
get everything setup and working. Having it all setup and ready to
configure would be nice though g. 

 I can't check it out with my equipment; nor do I know how the system
 will fare with SCSI disk and/or PMCIA for laptops.

I use neither of these as well but I do have a USB mouse. I don't expect
any problems...

Thanks for your review =)

Myles
 
 The only user group is the forum on the jbl site, and the traffic is
 pretty light there, but I'm sure the heavy weights on this list can
 answer most questions.
 
 Collins
 
  
  On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:23:27 +0700
  Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   FYI
   
   I think this is the greatest distro ever!!!
   
   Except for a very few things omitted from the Desktop+Development
   install option, the system has everything I could possibly want
  and
   more (both GNOME and KDE are onboard).
   
   Here are some of the good and bad (nothing disastrous).
   
   1) For those of us used to the Sysvinit form of init, the jbl
  approach
   takes some getting used to.  Instead of the directories with Sxxx
  and
   Kxxx links for each run level, there is a single unified script
  for
   each run level.  You turn on or off scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d by
   adding/removing execute permission.  
   
   2) I like the jbl package stuff, but there is no way to do a
  pretend
   install.  The provided rpm2jbl program works.  There is also a
  patched
   version of check install that works quite well and converts the
   tarballs to a jbl package on the fly.
   
   3) I had to install a few packages to get the prereqs for xfce,
   sylpheed, and opera.  Some were on the cdrom, some were tarballs,
  all
   installed without a hitch, as did the afformentioned products.
   
   4) I can't think of much else right now; jbl is darn near perfect
  for
   my needs.
   
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Re: linux 2.4.9 not ready for prime time

2001-08-25 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:31:17 +
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:56:39 -0600 Myles Green
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Well, I'm running 2.4.9 on a K6-2/500 - have been since the day it
 was
  released. No problems with it here... 
  
  -- 
 
 Well, after I discovered that something (not me) changed my Processor
 type
 setting, and after I changed that back to i586, life is a little
 better. 
 The system boots, but there are a few irregularities.  The first time
 I
 booted, none of my modules got loaded.  I did a depmod -a, and depmod
 didn't like my esssolo1 (soundcard) module.  I've never had to run
 depmod
 before when going from kernel to kernel.  Modprobe for all modules
 except
 esssolo1 was successful - unresolved symbols.  On the second boot, all
 the
 modules loaded, but esssolo1 is still doa.

hmmm... i don't think can help too much you here =( ...i still use an
ancient sb16 that 'just works'... but when you went through the sound
section, did you unselect the stuff that isn't related to the esssolo1?
did you select 'm' for modules or, perhaps you selected a 'y' instead ?
(been there done that! g) FWIW, i build everything 'sound' as
modules... in fact, there isn't much that i build directly into my
kernels.
 
 Other than that, 2.4.9 appears to be working ok.

this is good news =)
 
 I need to go back through the kernel config with a fine tooth comb. 
 Maybe
 something else has been altered automagically.

that's a good plan... something isn't right in there.

good luck! hope you find the culprit...

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Re: linux 2.4.9 not ready for prime time

2001-08-24 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FWIW, the instability that i had experienced with 2.4.8 completely
 disapeared when i upgraded to 2.4.9.  I'm using NFS without a single
 problem.  THis is on a i686 though, so i can't comment on the i585
 weirdness.

Well, I'm running 2.4.9 on a K6-2/500 - have been since the day it was
released. No problems with it here... 

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LiLo and the MBR...

2001-08-23 Thread Myles Green

I found a little something about restoring MBR's today after totally
hosing one on a Compac Presario 5050 earlier this morning.

In a nutshell, there is an 8MB drive as hda with win98 installed, the
cdrom is at hdc and I added a second HD with Linux on it as hdd. My job
was to restore windows to an 'as new' state and then update/patch it as
required and add the second drive with Linux and allow dual booting. 

At any rate, I hosed the lilo.conf and then hosed the MBR by running
LiLo and got the dreaded scrolling lines of 1's and 0's upon a reboot. I
tried the 'fdisk /mbr' trick which did nothing and I started sweating =(

After a few deep breaths, I poked around in the HOWTO's and found a LILO
mini-howto... all is well again =)

it seems that when you install lilo to the mbr, it creates a file under
/boot - in my case boot.0300 which is your unmolested MBR in all it's
glory... to restore it you use dd, like so:

dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1

a quick reboot and *viola*: windows startup screen

I lost about 5 pounds worth of sweat over this today before i found the
answer so, here's hoping somebody here can/will benefit from my little
experience...

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Re: SOLVED! Re: I'm in LILO hell

2001-08-21 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 21 August 2001 11:04, Net Llama wrote:
   Linuxcare Emergency boot CD (think Tom's RBD on crack).  Its a
 40MB
   CD the size of a business card that has basically 95% of /sbin,
 /bin
/usr on it, making it a mini-OS on a CD.  Anyone interested in
   getting an ISO of this CD, let me know, and i will gladly post it
   somewhere publicly accessible.  Granted, you'd not be able to
  squeeze
  
  EBCD is always nice thing to have.  Post it, please.
 
 Done:
 ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/support/lfriedman/disk/ER-iso
 
 Burn it to a CD like an ISO, and you're good to go.

Thank you! 

/me hoping this one includes midnight commander =)

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Re: suggestion for step-by-step site

2001-08-14 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:35:53 -0700 (PDT)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 07:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
  Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- Linuxism Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the one that was posted a while ago.
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/08/10/1441239
   
   This page appears to be nothing more than banner ads.
  
  time to switch browsers? In netscape 4.77 it shows, yes a few banner
 
 I *was* using Netscape-4.77.  Also tried with Mozilla.

Oh, sorry 'bout that then, I thought you were using Opera. 

You know,come to think of it, I've experienced something like this
before w/ netscape. Sometimes I can go to a site and I see what you must
have seen, all the adds and other page components but the text, or
article, isn't there yet. After a *very* pregnant pause the rest of
the page usually comes up - though it took me quite a while before I
stumbled onto this. It's annoying to be sure. 

Perhaps that's what is going on in this case too?

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Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!

2001-08-14 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:18:40 -0400
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 14 August 2001 21:10, Myles Green wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:47:46 -0500
 
  John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tuesday 14 August 2001 16:42, Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
On Tuesday 14 August 2001 16:44, Terence McCarthy babbled:
 I think I may have to unsub myself, Douglas, if you have to
 take
 similar action again, because of what appears to be a few
 people's
 reactions. One of the things I cannot stand is the idea of
 Political Correctness, and one-size-fits-all ideas and
 opinions.
   
nor I in all honesty. In fact, I found the humor refreshing, and
 I
added the pic to my rotating backgrounds..
  
   I can't stand it anymore.  I missed the pic.  Someone send to me
 via
   private email so I can see what all the hubaloo is about.
 
  I missed it too =(
 
 Same here...  yet I have lots of other email that arrived around the
 same 
 time.  Makes me think that it never arrived here and I wonder why.
 
 Can I be offended?

Oh, I should *think* so... I know I was snif, snif until an un-named
saviour sent it to me thereby giving me the oportunity to be offended in
the proper mam.. err.. manner =)

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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread Myles Green

David,
sorry for getting back to you so late, was away for a few days...

comments below

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:27:01 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  BTW, how did you set up your sound? If you haven't done this yet you
  might want to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to uncomment your sound card
 and
 
 Well in /usr/src/linux/Doc...n/sound I discovered which driver
 supported 
 my sound card and modprobed it into the kernel.

you did this from a command line? any errors? what sound card is this
again?
 
 I then added a line for it to rc.modules, b/c even a commented out one
 did 
 not already exist, although the module was available.

OK but you might need to modify how you entered it (IRQ/DMA etc)
 
  then either modprobe the sound module or reboot. Are you running the
  stock kernel? If so which version 2.2.19 or 2.4.5?
 
 Still running stock 2.2.19 (never noticed the option to go 2.4.5 when
 setting 
 up slackware although it apparently was there) lol, I seem to keep
 procrastinating on learning the art of kernel compilation.

it's not that bad, really, if you have a few hours to spend. just
remember to keep a copy of a working kernel, it's System.map and it's
modules directory around in case you mess things up - even if you don't
you can still boot from either the install floppy/CD or the emergency
boot disk you made during installation and repair things if need be.

hint: in slackware 8, if you replace 'make bzImage' (when you get to
that step) with 'make bzlilo', it moves your old kernel to vmlinuz.old
for you (along with System.old), then all you need to do is modify
/etc/lilo to point to it before you do the 'make bzlilo', it will run
/sbin/lilo for you when it's done.

--- from /etc/lilo.conf ---

image = /vmlinuz.old
label   = old_kernel
root= /dev/hda1
vga = normal
read-only

--- end snip ---

HTH

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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-08 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:07:21 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On August 8, 2001 06:05 am, Mike Andrew wrote:
  On Wednesday 08 August 2001 19:13, David Aikema wrote:
   Well the card seems to work in realplayer, xmms, play, etc
   basically anything that doesn't use artsd
 
  This is part of the kde package? There's a known bug that causes it
 to
  permanently hold onto the /dev it is fixed in the new kde2.2 due
 'real soon
  now'
 
 Ya that's what I think the problem is.  I think miles stated
 earlier that 
 when he built the latest kde2.2 from cvs this fixed those problems.

Yes, my system now has sound under kde after compiling the code from
cvs last week.

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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-01 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:51:51 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I never bothered setting up my sound before the upgrade to kde2.2beta1
 so I 
 don't know if this is a problem with my configuration or what... but, 
 although I've got sound when i execute from a prompt /usr/bin/play
 nameof.wav 
 I can't seem to get any sound whatsoever in kde2.2beta1.

I don't have a solution for you but I can confirm that you aren't alone
on this. Sound works everywhere *but* under kde2.2beta1 here. As I
usually use XFce this isn't a bother to me but it's still a curious
thing.

I've grabbed more recent snapshots of kde2.2 (from July 27th) and will
try those to see if it was something that got fixed or not. I also
grabbed koffice-1.1rc1 and will see if I get the same errors as you got
with that... I'll get back to you later today on that.

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Re: Sound in slackware

2001-08-01 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:51:51 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't seem to get any sound whatsoever in kde2.2beta1.

David,
I just finished building the kde2.2 snapshot from july 27 and 'viola' we
have sound once again. They're supposed to release kde2.2 final next
week so you may want to wait until then to grab the source.

BTW, how did you set up your sound? If you haven't done this yet you
might want to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to uncomment your sound card and
then either modprobe the sound module or reboot. Are you running the
stock kernel? If so which version 2.2.19 or 2.4.5?

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Re: Way off topic

2001-07-26 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:18:44 +
Terence McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just how is beer Way Off Topic on a Linux list?

for a non-drinker? waaay out there ;)

 Terence (CAMRA member)

CAMRA? wha'sat?

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Re: The Strangest Things In My Mailbox!

2001-07-26 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 02:37:20 -0600
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 12:26:25AM -0600, Myles Green wrote:
  
 [snippage]
 
  in fact, it was one of their dial-up help-desk people who first
 turned
  me on to linux way back when - right after i said 'what do you mean
  reformat the drive and reinstall !?! again !!? blah! blah! blah!
 there's
  got to be *something* better than this!!'. all he said was 'do a
 search
  on google.com for linux... but you didn't hear that from me' =)
 
 I downloaded my first few Slackware disks Way Back When (c) from, of
 all places, America Online. Talk about dripping with irony. ;-)

Wow, I'll say!! Betcha couldn't find it there now tho ;-)

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Re: The Strangest Things In My Mailbox!

2001-07-25 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:42:28 -0700 (PST)
Shawn Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow,
 
 I have yet to receive a single copy, other than the ones emailed,
 thank
 you gentlemen.  I must hang out in the wrong crowd

same here I guess... either that or I've harped at my win32 using
friends enough to cause them to be more aware than the average bear. =) 

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Re: The Strangest Things In My Mailbox!

2001-07-25 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:17:43 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 or you have a clue-enabled isp who knows his way around filters. i've 

ok, that sounds more like it ;)

 gotten scads of 'em on the earthlink account, but nothing on any of 
 the others. which is about what i would have expected -- in my 
 experience, earthlink sucketh bigtime. my other provider is exacting 
 and security-conscious, a small operation that is run by a guy who is 
 responsible for what happens there.

that would make all the difference in the world alright, small is good
in this case. iirc, my provider (telus) bills itself as #2 in size here
in Canada and they seem to be pretty much on the ball. quite a few of
their adsl techies are *nix freaks - which is kinda handy when things go
*bang* and you're not sure if it was them or you that b0rked things. ;)
in fact, it was one of their dial-up help-desk people who first turned
me on to linux way back when - right after i said 'what do you mean
reformat the drive and reinstall !?! again !!? blah! blah! blah! there's
got to be *something* better than this!!'. all he said was 'do a search
on google.com for linux... but you didn't hear that from me' =)

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Re: kde2.2

2001-07-19 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:05:24 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you also rebuild (or obtain) new qt2 libraries? I have had zilch
 crashes 
 on kde2.1.1 under rh7.1 Am interested to know if it's a kde build
 problem for 
 certain distros or a qt error.

this was definately a kde build problem as i left qt alone (qt-2.3.1) to
make sure it was kde and not qt.

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Re: Problems with i810 under SuSE 7.2.

2001-07-19 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:52:26 -0600
Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 next: kdelibs there is no more kdesupport so this is now the first one
 to build. i used this for ALL the kde packages:
 
 ./configure --disable-debug  make  make install
 
my appologies, this line should have read:

./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt --disable-debug  make  make
install

NB: i did post a correction right after sending this lastnight but the
the correction got bounced by linux.nf

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Re: Problems with i810 under SuSE 7.2.

2001-07-18 Thread Myles Green

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Whoa...slackware packages?  I'm using the precompiled binary packages
 for XFree86-4.1.0 directly from xfree86.org.  I have no clue what
 slackware is distributing.

They distribute binaries for xf-4.1.0 compiled under Slackware with AA
fonts built in. There have been a couple of complaints about X on the
slackware-devel list but mostly it boiled down to PEBKAC type errors and
none mentioned the i810 specifically that i saw. Mine was one of those
complaints and, in my case, it was a collection of dust puppies wreaking
havoc - a half hour spent cleaning out the case worked wonders.

The one thing that is most definately screwed up with Slackware is KDE,
whoever built it did *something* very wrong. I just built kde2.2beta1
here and it works way better - faster starts, no crashes and all the kde
menu items actually work including all the koffice stuff.

myles
 
 --- David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok... that device section looks exactly like what I've got these
  distortion problems happened to me also when I tried to install
  eworkstation 3.1 or I'd be inquiring if there might be a problem
 with
  some of the slackware packages.  Quite frankly, I'm stumped now.
  
  David Aikema
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:42 AM
  Subject: Re: Problems with i810 under SuSE 7.2.
  
  
   Wow, that's pretty messed up.  I can gladly say that i don't have
  any
   problems, especially like those.  I'm guessing that you were
  referring
   to the Graphics Device section:
  
   Section Device
   Identifier  i810
   Driver  i810
   #VideoRam4096
   # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
   EndSection
 
 =
 
 Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Linux FAQ  Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com
 
  .
 
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Re: Sylpheed test

2001-07-13 Thread Myles Green

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:46:54 -0500
Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 lart.com
 

ohhh... now i get it... i think?

kurt larted bruce for bein' cranky with mathew? sounds reasonable i
guess...

/me slow on the uptake tonight... as usual :o)

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Re: OT linux stuff

2001-07-12 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:32:50 -0500
Eddie Arteaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nah Myles, I wasn't trolling for flames. And I was talking Linux.

there's a difference between talking linux and complaining nothing works
with whichever distro you try followed by comments like my win2k box
never does this or that.

 As for Win2000, I just mentioned it doesn't crash for me. I have no
 great love for Microsoft.

nor does most anyone on this list i'd wager
 
 Yes I read the info with the distros, yes I took my time. Yes I did
 edited /etc/rc.d/modules under 
 Slackware.  I do support Linux, and I don't see anything wrong with
 pointing out stuff on it that 
 doesn't work well or to my expectations.

OK, you edited the rc.modules file, uncommented the sb16 line and still
no sound under the 2.4 kernel but you do get sound under the 2.2.19
kernel? Did you try building your own 2.4 kernel yet? FWIW, i could not
get any sounds under XFce (added by me) using a 'stock' kernel but yet i
did have sounds under kde and gnome. once i built a 2.4.6 kernel there
was sound under XFce as well. 
 
 Yes KDE would hang up particularly under Slackware. Total hangs
 killing the mouse and 
 keyboard. So I ran xf86config to see if that's what was causing it.

i think whoever built the slacware kde 2.1.2 packages did a piss poor
job of it as it is extremely buggy with koffice segfaulting every time -
and not just here either
 
 As for the NIC, Caldera with the 2.4.x kernel gives the error 
 garbage in the relay string. Suse 
 gives a timeout error during dhcp and snip

i forgot, are you using cable or dsl? (perhaps you never said?) do you
need to use pppoe perhaps? just a thought.

 Slackware just sits for a bit,
 then goes on to X, with DHCP 
 not working. Only with the 2.4.x kernels.

and you ran netconfig? hmmm something strange with that which kernel did
you select, the one from the boot floppy or one off the CD?
 
 Hardware on all three machines is fine. And I do know what I'm doing,
 and I read most 
 everything. The problem is in the distros. I'll keep messing with
 them.

well, i'm glad you know what you're doing... and you're right: it's
gotta be the distro fault. yep. sure thing...

 Like I said, I wasn't trolling, just pointing stuff out. I still use
 Caldera 2.4, and everything works.

huh? but what about the 'garbage strings' thing? i thought that was a
problem... say... wait a minute... you wouldn't be related to hayseeds
would you ??

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Re: Sylpheed test

2001-07-12 Thread Myles Green

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:08:44 -0600
Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, I'm completely lost here. I wanted to test sylpheed to see if it
 had any features I wanted. I created one message to test the word wrap
 at 72 and no html so as not to offend anyone else. I have no idea why
 Bruce would want to killfile me because of that. Not like we had a
 flame
 war or anything. My sig is the same as I've used for a couple of years
 now, and is listed in the SxS. Oh well, I try to be courteous and
 verify
 I'm not violating the common rules and someone gets their knickers in
 a
 twist. Maybe Les Bell wasn't so wrong after all. But before I go,
 What's
 a LART?

Andrew, I have no idea what a LART is either... nor do I have any idea
what the PLONK was all about... must be something in the air today?

In any event it would be a shame to see you go as your contributions
would surely be missed.

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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

2001-07-10 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:06:39 -0700 (PST)
Shawn Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:15:14 -0700, Vern W Heesch wrote:
 
 It's been a while, but if I remember correctly rpm --rebuild
 --target=i686 whatever.rpm
 should work.
 
 Vern
 
 Thanks Vern,
 
 The man pages on rpm didn't show a --target option, but I will give it
 a try.  

IIRC the --target option only works when you've installed the srpm via
rpm -ivh name-of-srpm.srpm, which will place the actual source files
(plus any patches) under /usr/src/OpenLinux/SOURCES/ and a name.spec
under /usr/src/OpenLinux/SPECS.

To use the --target option cd to the directory containing the .spec
file(s) and then as root issue:

rpm -bb --target=ix86 name.spec

you might want to first look in the RPMS directory first to make sure
that the target exists, if not create it and carry on.

please note: it's been a very long time since I've worked with RPMS so,
be warned, YMMV and RTFM just to be sure =)

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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

2001-07-10 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:29:05 -0700 (PST)
Shawn Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:21:48 -0600, Myles Green wrote:
 
 
 please note: it's been a very long time since I've worked with RPMS
 so,
 be warned, YMMV and RTFM just to be sure =)
 
 Thanks Myles
 
 I'll let these build as they are.  I fiddle later with the
 optimazation

sure, build a few like that to get comfortable with rpm before trying to
get fancy - gotta learn to crawl before walking and all that ;)

 stuff.  I figure that since this is a stock OL 3.1 install, maybe
 these
 rpms would be useful to other who want to upgrade to 2.1.1  I hope so
 at least.

as long as you haven't changed changed or added too much (library-wise)
other's should be able to install them as well.
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Re: quanta compile troubles

2001-07-09 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:18:33 +1130
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 10 July 2001 02:17, Myles Green wrote:
 
   I compiled quanta+ on  gcc 2.95 / glibc 2.2.2 (egcs 2.91.66~85)
 sans
   problems
 
  yeah, but how many goats did you have to sacrifice? i'm down to just
 a
  few piddly chicken feet and i don't think they have enough voodoo in
  them for the job ;)
 
 I used up the one remaining goat that Les Bell airmailed me for kicq.
 Useless 
 bugger (either Les, or the goat, were no bl**dy good).
 
 I lined up 3 beady-eyed chickens for quanta+, but it turned out to be 
 unecessary, so I'm keeping the eggs produced during their 'period of
 stress' 
 for any further attempts at getting k bl**dy icq running.

I'm gonna give quanta+ another go later this evening. I poped the cpu
fan and heatsink off today and and cleaned up a downright *ugly* mess of
crap - since then I've built a 2.4.6 kernel with no errors... that's
gotta be A Good Thing(tm) doesn't it? Didn't even need one chicken or
his/her foot ;)

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Re: OT Test

2001-07-09 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:01:40 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Testing 1,2,3.
 Is there anybody out there?

shhh don't answer him snicker

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Re: quanta compile troubles

2001-07-09 Thread Myles Green

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:44:54 -0500
Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 06 July 2001 21:38, you wrote:
  I just rsync'd quanta from hunley.homeip.net and tried to build it
 but
  no matter what I do the make craps out as follows:
 snip
 
 That looks like the same errors Jim  I ran into when putting Quanta 2
 onto 
 kde 2.1.1
 
 This is how Jim fixed it up:
 
 SxS for a CVS compile for Quanta2 pr2
 on KDE2.1.1 and COL eD2.4 
 
 1: Make a new directory to download the CVS code to. 'cd ... to that 
 directory. 
  2: from a console or terminal, 
 $cvs-d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/kde login 
  3: password$ JUST HIT ENTER 
  4: $cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/kde co quanta
  5: You will notice it get all of the code and place it in the
 directory that 
 you created. 
  6: $make -f Makefile.cvs 
  7: $./configure --prefix=/opt/kde2 
  8: $make 
  9: $make install 
  *: You may have to create an Icon for it in kde menu if you so
 desire. The 
 binary file is in /opt/kde2/bin/quanta. There should be an Icon
 somewhere in 
 /opt/kde2/share/icons/* for it as well 
 
 HTH,

Thanks Bill =) I'll give those a try. 

I *may* have solved my problem by... uhn.. *cough* cleaning my cpu fan
and heatsink? Yup, it seems too much crapola coupled with 30 deg C
(that's 85+ F) heat makes the old amd k6-2 cranky. Imagine that! g 

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Re: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers

2001-07-07 Thread Myles Green

On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:56:35 -0400
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:00, burns wrote:
  Auyeung at Technet Systems wrote:
   Interesting, Burns,
  
   Not only this article, but also your use of the Japanese fonts,
 which
   makes me wonder if you are in Japan enjoying your
 vacation,watching
   Mikado, or eating Sushi !
 
  Excuse me?
 
  According to my setup, I'm using Western encoding and adobe
 times
  and adobe helvetica. Unless someone else is seeing this problem, I
  think it may be on your end.
 
 I see the problem here..   Your posts (read in Kmail) have gone
 from a 
 nice readable font to  the 'ungodly ugly' large fonts.  

gee, everything looked just fine here (read in sylpheed ;)

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