Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/22/07 4:01 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 22 apr 2007, at 23.31, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 On 4/22/07 3:07 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
 difference was
 rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake
 install¹. Now I
 have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same
 error
 message
 when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report
 would be
 great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the
 info.
 
 Bob
 
 I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is
 a QT
 or an LyX-issue...
 It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more
 info
 on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
 automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
 But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
 
 /Anders
 
 I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext
 0.14.5. I
 really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I
 noticed was
 that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in
 qt4.2.3
 even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I
 guess
 I'll send a configure log to the development list.
 
 Bob
 
 Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html
 
 It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake
 version. Still I get an error with:
 /usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
 make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
 make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2
 
 The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the -
 nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it
 now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling
 LyX...
 
 /Anders
 
 I also got this error if I include the '-nomake examples' command.
 However,
 if I remember correctly it went away when I didn't use this. I also
 assumed
 this wouldn't affect LyX compilation.
 
 Bob
 
 Thanks for the details Bob. And I can confirm that the compilation
 worked with -nomake demos.
 I have filed a bug report to Trolltech regarding the failed compilation.
 So it seems that one is under control. Now it's just the LyX-
 configuration left...
 
 /Anders

So, yesterday I booted into Ubuntu (I have a dual-boot) because I wanted to
update LyX there also. There was a distribution upgrade so I upgraded then
compiled 1.5.0svn/beta2 (not sure which it is if downloaded from svn). By
default it used Qt4.2.3 and now I have the LyX slowness under Linux. This
leads me to believe that the issues are directly due to Qt4.2.3. I'm
thinking of compiling an earlier version of Qt to see if the slowness goes
away since we can't get LyX to compile with Qt4.3.

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:


So, yesterday I booted into Ubuntu (I have a dual-boot) because I wanted to
update LyX there also. There was a distribution upgrade so I upgraded then
compiled 1.5.0svn/beta2 (not sure which it is if downloaded from svn). By
default it used Qt4.2.3 and now I have the LyX slowness under Linux.


What is this slowness you are talking about. AFAIK, there is no such 
slowness report under Linux. Please detail on the devel list (I randomly 
read the user list).
Please note that you should build in release mode if you want to get 
the normal speed. 'stdlib-debug' is known to have a strong performance 
penalty on systems using the gcc compiler.




This
leads me to believe that the issues are directly due to Qt4.2.3.


I don't think there are important performance issues related to Qt4.2.4 
on Linux.



I'm
thinking of compiling an earlier version of Qt to see if the slowness goes
away since we can't get LyX to compile with Qt4.3.


I've heard that LyX compiles and run perfectly fine with Qt4.3 under 
Linux and Windows (did not try myself).


Abdel.

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/22/07 4:01 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 22 apr 2007, at 23.31, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 On 4/22/07 3:07 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
 difference was
 rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake
 install¹. Now I
 have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same
 error
 message
 when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report
 would be
 great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the
 info.
 
 Bob
 
 I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is
 a QT
 or an LyX-issue...
 It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more
 info
 on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
 automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
 But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
 
 /Anders
 
 I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext
 0.14.5. I
 really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I
 noticed was
 that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in
 qt4.2.3
 even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I
 guess
 I'll send a configure log to the development list.
 
 Bob
 
 Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html
 
 It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake
 version. Still I get an error with:
 /usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
 make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
 make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2
 
 The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the -
 nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it
 now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling
 LyX...
 
 /Anders
 
 I also got this error if I include the '-nomake examples' command.
 However,
 if I remember correctly it went away when I didn't use this. I also
 assumed
 this wouldn't affect LyX compilation.
 
 Bob
 
 Thanks for the details Bob. And I can confirm that the compilation
 worked with -nomake demos.
 I have filed a bug report to Trolltech regarding the failed compilation.
 So it seems that one is under control. Now it's just the LyX-
 configuration left...
 
 /Anders

So, yesterday I booted into Ubuntu (I have a dual-boot) because I wanted to
update LyX there also. There was a distribution upgrade so I upgraded then
compiled 1.5.0svn/beta2 (not sure which it is if downloaded from svn). By
default it used Qt4.2.3 and now I have the LyX slowness under Linux. This
leads me to believe that the issues are directly due to Qt4.2.3. I'm
thinking of compiling an earlier version of Qt to see if the slowness goes
away since we can't get LyX to compile with Qt4.3.

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:


So, yesterday I booted into Ubuntu (I have a dual-boot) because I wanted to
update LyX there also. There was a distribution upgrade so I upgraded then
compiled 1.5.0svn/beta2 (not sure which it is if downloaded from svn). By
default it used Qt4.2.3 and now I have the LyX slowness under Linux.


What is this slowness you are talking about. AFAIK, there is no such 
slowness report under Linux. Please detail on the devel list (I randomly 
read the user list).
Please note that you should build in release mode if you want to get 
the normal speed. 'stdlib-debug' is known to have a strong performance 
penalty on systems using the gcc compiler.




This
leads me to believe that the issues are directly due to Qt4.2.3.


I don't think there are important performance issues related to Qt4.2.4 
on Linux.



I'm
thinking of compiling an earlier version of Qt to see if the slowness goes
away since we can't get LyX to compile with Qt4.3.


I've heard that LyX compiles and run perfectly fine with Qt4.3 under 
Linux and Windows (did not try myself).


Abdel.

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/22/07 4:01 PM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 22 apr 2007, at 23.31, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>> On 4/22/07 3:07 PM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
>> I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
>> difference was
>> rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake
>> install¹. Now I
>> have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same
>> error
>> message
>> when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report
>> would be
>> great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the
>> info.
>> 
>> Bob
> 
> I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is
> a QT
> or an LyX-issue...
> It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more
> info
> on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
> automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
> But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
> 
> /Anders
 
 I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext
 0.14.5. I
 really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I
 noticed was
 that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in
 qt4.2.3
 even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I
 guess
 I'll send a configure log to the development list.
 
 Bob
>>> 
>>> Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html
>>> 
>>> It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake
>>> version. Still I get an error with:
>>> /usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
>>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>>> make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
>>> make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
>>> make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2
>>> 
>>> The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the -
>>> nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it
>>> now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling
>>> LyX...
>>> 
>>> /Anders
>> 
>> I also got this error if I include the '-nomake examples' command.
>> However,
>> if I remember correctly it went away when I didn't use this. I also
>> assumed
>> this wouldn't affect LyX compilation.
>> 
>> Bob
> 
> Thanks for the details Bob. And I can confirm that the compilation
> worked with -nomake demos.
> I have filed a bug report to Trolltech regarding the failed compilation.
> So it seems that one is under control. Now it's just the LyX-
> configuration left...
> 
> /Anders

So, yesterday I booted into Ubuntu (I have a dual-boot) because I wanted to
update LyX there also. There was a distribution upgrade so I upgraded then
compiled 1.5.0svn/beta2 (not sure which it is if downloaded from svn). By
default it used Qt4.2.3 and now I have the LyX "slowness" under Linux. This
leads me to believe that the issues are directly due to Qt4.2.3. I'm
thinking of compiling an earlier version of Qt to see if the slowness goes
away since we can't get LyX to compile with Qt4.3.

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:


So, yesterday I booted into Ubuntu (I have a dual-boot) because I wanted to
update LyX there also. There was a distribution upgrade so I upgraded then
compiled 1.5.0svn/beta2 (not sure which it is if downloaded from svn). By
default it used Qt4.2.3 and now I have the LyX "slowness" under Linux.


What is this "slowness" you are talking about. AFAIK, there is no such 
slowness report under Linux. Please detail on the devel list (I randomly 
read the user list).
Please note that you should build in "release" mode if you want to get 
the "normal speed". 'stdlib-debug' is known to have a strong performance 
penalty on systems using the gcc compiler.




This
leads me to believe that the issues are directly due to Qt4.2.3.


I don't think there are important performance issues related to Qt4.2.4 
on Linux.



I'm
thinking of compiling an earlier version of Qt to see if the slowness goes
away since we can't get LyX to compile with Qt4.3.


I've heard that LyX compiles and run perfectly fine with Qt4.3 under 
Linux and Windows (did not try myself).


Abdel.

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 21 apr 2007, at 23.19, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:




On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an  
error

saying qt
4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with  
either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac,  
but I

just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
suggestions?

Bob


I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few  
days ago

on a (PPC) mac.
pdv


Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and  
Qt4.3.0 with the

same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc  
macs?


I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure  
command:


./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I  
wouldn't think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of  
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending- 
aclocal%22 ;.


Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once  
it is

cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be  
able to

compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me  
after trying
QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so  
badly I had

to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and  
4.4 snapshot
not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are  
reporting,
whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope  
will be
fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug  
report. Has
anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX  
searches for
the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know  
where in the

set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I  
compiled the beta
2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/ 
LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for  
Bennett's posting

of the official beta.

/Anders



I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only  
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make  
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error  
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report  
would be

great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT  
or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info  
on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,   
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.

But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Anders Ekberg wrote:


On 21 apr 2007, at 23.19, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, Anders Ekberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
saying qt
4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with 
either of

these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
suggestions?

Bob



I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
on a (PPC) mac.
pdv


Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 
with the

same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't 
think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal%22 
;.


Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me 
after trying
QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so 
badly I had

to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4 
snapshot

not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are reporting,
whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope 
will be
fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug report. 
Has
anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX 
searches for
the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know 
where in the

set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled 
the beta

2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's 
posting

of the official beta.

/Anders



I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make install’. 
Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error 
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report 
would be

great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT or 
an LyX-issue...


Bob's problem seems like a problem in LyX autotools scripts rather than Qt.

It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info on 
your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,  automake 
1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.

But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.


Guys, please send the error message and the configure logs to the devel 
list. Hopefully, someone will solve the problem.


Abdel.

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
 difference was
 rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake
 install¹. Now I
 have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error
 message
 when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report
 would be
 great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.
 
 Bob
 
 I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT
 or an LyX-issue...
 It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info
 on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
 automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
 But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
 
 /Anders

I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext 0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I guess
I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob 

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report
would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT
or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info
on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders


I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext  
0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I  
noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in  
qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I  
guess

I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob


Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html

It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake  
version. Still I get an error with:

/usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2

The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the - 
nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it  
now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling  
LyX...


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 22 apr 2007, at 23.31, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/22/07 3:07 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same  
error

message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report
would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the  
info.


Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is  
a QT

or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more  
info

on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders


I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext
0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I
noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in
qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I
guess
I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob


Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html

It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake
version. Still I get an error with:
/usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2

The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the -
nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it
now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling
LyX...

/Anders


I also got this error if I include the '-nomake examples' command.  
However,
if I remember correctly it went away when I didn't use this. I also  
assumed

this wouldn't affect LyX compilation.

Bob


Thanks for the details Bob. And I can confirm that the compilation  
worked with -nomake demos.

I have filed a bug report to Trolltech regarding the failed compilation.
So it seems that one is under control. Now it's just the LyX- 
configuration left...


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 21 apr 2007, at 23.19, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:




On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an  
error

saying qt
4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with  
either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac,  
but I

just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
suggestions?

Bob


I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few  
days ago

on a (PPC) mac.
pdv


Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and  
Qt4.3.0 with the

same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc  
macs?


I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure  
command:


./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I  
wouldn't think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of  
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending- 
aclocal%22 ;.


Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once  
it is

cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be  
able to

compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me  
after trying
QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so  
badly I had

to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and  
4.4 snapshot
not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are  
reporting,
whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope  
will be
fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug  
report. Has
anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX  
searches for
the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know  
where in the

set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I  
compiled the beta
2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/ 
LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for  
Bennett's posting

of the official beta.

/Anders



I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only  
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make  
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error  
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report  
would be

great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT  
or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info  
on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,   
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.

But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Anders Ekberg wrote:


On 21 apr 2007, at 23.19, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, Anders Ekberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
saying qt
4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with 
either of

these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
suggestions?

Bob



I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
on a (PPC) mac.
pdv


Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 
with the

same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't 
think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal%22 
;.


Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me 
after trying
QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so 
badly I had

to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4 
snapshot

not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are reporting,
whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope 
will be
fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug report. 
Has
anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX 
searches for
the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know 
where in the

set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled 
the beta

2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's 
posting

of the official beta.

/Anders



I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make install’. 
Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error 
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report 
would be

great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT or 
an LyX-issue...


Bob's problem seems like a problem in LyX autotools scripts rather than Qt.

It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info on 
your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,  automake 
1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.

But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.


Guys, please send the error message and the configure logs to the devel 
list. Hopefully, someone will solve the problem.


Abdel.

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
 difference was
 rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake
 install¹. Now I
 have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error
 message
 when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report
 would be
 great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.
 
 Bob
 
 I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT
 or an LyX-issue...
 It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info
 on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
 automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
 But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
 
 /Anders

I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext 0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I guess
I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob 

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report
would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT
or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info
on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders


I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext  
0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I  
noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in  
qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I  
guess

I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob


Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html

It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake  
version. Still I get an error with:

/usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2

The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the - 
nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it  
now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling  
LyX...


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 22 apr 2007, at 23.31, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/22/07 3:07 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same  
error

message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report
would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the  
info.


Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is  
a QT

or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more  
info

on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders


I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext
0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I
noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in
qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I
guess
I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob


Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html

It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake
version. Still I get an error with:
/usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2

The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the -
nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it
now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling
LyX...

/Anders


I also got this error if I include the '-nomake examples' command.  
However,
if I remember correctly it went away when I didn't use this. I also  
assumed

this wouldn't affect LyX compilation.

Bob


Thanks for the details Bob. And I can confirm that the compilation  
worked with -nomake demos.

I have filed a bug report to Trolltech regarding the failed compilation.
So it seems that one is under control. Now it's just the LyX- 
configuration left...


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 21 apr 2007, at 23.19, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, "Patrick De Visschere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:




On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an  
error

saying "qt
4 library not found !".


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with  
either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac,  
but I

just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
suggestions?

Bob


I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few  
days ago

on a (PPC) mac.
pdv


Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and  
Qt4.3.0 with the

same error message "qt 4 library not found !".

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc  
macs?


I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure  
command:


"./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug".

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I  
wouldn't think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

" Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of  
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
 ;.


Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once  
it is

cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be  
able to

compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a "make clean" will solve it. At least it did for me  
after trying
QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so  
badly I had

to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and  
4.4 snapshot
not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are  
reporting,
whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope  
will be
fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug  
report. Has
anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX  
searches for
the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know  
where in the

set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I  
compiled the beta
2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/ 
LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for  
Bennett's posting

of the official beta.

/Anders



I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only  
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make  
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error  
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report  
would be

great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT  
or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info  
on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,   
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.

But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Anders Ekberg wrote:


On 21 apr 2007, at 23.19, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, "Anders Ekberg" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, "Patrick De Visschere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
saying "qt
4 library not found !".


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with 
either of

these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
suggestions?

Bob



I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
on a (PPC) mac.
pdv


Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 
with the

same error message "qt 4 library not found !".

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

"./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug".

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't 
think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

" Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
 
;.


Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a "make clean" will solve it. At least it did for me 
after trying
QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so 
badly I had

to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4 
snapshot

not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are reporting,
whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope 
will be
fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug report. 
Has
anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX 
searches for
the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know 
where in the

set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled 
the beta

2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's 
posting

of the official beta.

/Anders



I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make install’. 
Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error 
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report 
would be

great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT or 
an LyX-issue...


Bob's problem seems like a problem in LyX autotools scripts rather than Qt.

It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info on 
your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,  automake 
1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.

But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.


Guys, please send the error message and the configure logs to the devel 
list. Hopefully, someone will solve the problem.


Abdel.

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
>> difference was
>> rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake
>> install¹. Now I
>> have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error
>> message
>> when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report
>> would be
>> great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.
>> 
>> Bob
> 
> I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT
> or an LyX-issue...
> It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info
> on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
> automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
> But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
> 
> /Anders

I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext 0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I guess
I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob 

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error
message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report
would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is a QT
or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more info
on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders


I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext  
0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I  
noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in  
qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I  
guess

I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob


Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html

It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake  
version. Still I get an error with:

/usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2

The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the - 
nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it  
now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling  
LyX...


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 22 apr 2007, at 23.31, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/22/07 3:07 PM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 22 apr 2007, at 22.35, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/22/07 1:58 AM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only
difference was
rather than using ‘sudo make install’ I just entered ‘make
install’. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same  
error

message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot ‘qt 4 library not found’. A bug report
would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the  
info.


Bob


I guess the problem is that we need to figure out whether it is  
a QT

or an LyX-issue...
It is interesting that your compilation works? Do you have more  
info

on your configuration? My fails on 10.4.9 (G4). with gcc 4.0.1,
automake 1.10 and gettext 0.14.5.
But I will try again to make sure I didn't do something stupid.

/Anders


I'm using 10.4.9 (G3) with gcc 4.0.1, automake 1.9.6, and gettext
0.14.5. I
really don't know if it's an LyX or Qt issue. The only thing I
noticed was
that my qt4.3.0 directory is missing a mkspecs folder that is in
qt4.2.3
even though they were compiled with the same ./configure command. I
guess
I'll send a configure log to the development list.

Bob


Do that. The problem is also reported in the tread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg113399.html

It seems our configurations are similar apart from the automake
version. Still I get an error with:
/usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lQtAssistantClient
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [../../bin/qtdemo.app/Contents/MacOS/qtdemo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [sub-qtdemo-make_default] Error 2
make: *** [sub-demos-make_default-ordered] Error 2

The only explanation I can think of is if you compiled QT with the -
nomake demos. That should probably avoid this error (I will try it
now), but of course that doesn't solve the basic problem of compiling
LyX...

/Anders


I also got this error if I include the '-nomake examples' command.  
However,
if I remember correctly it went away when I didn't use this. I also  
assumed

this wouldn't affect LyX compilation.

Bob


Thanks for the details Bob. And I can confirm that the compilation  
worked with -nomake demos.

I have filed a bug report to Trolltech regarding the failed compilation.
So it seems that one is under control. Now it's just the LyX- 
configuration left...


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.

 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.

 This message was after ./configure.

 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with  
either of

 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?

 Bob


 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days  
ago

 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv

Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0  
with the

same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't  
think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of  
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;;.

Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me  
after trying QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess  
everything up so badly I had to trash my LyX source folder and  
reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4  
snapshot not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you  
are reporting, whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter  
two I hope will be fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to  
file a bug report. Has anyone done that). The former could perhaps be  
related to how LyX searches for the QT-installation (i.e. the search  
criterion). But I don't know where in the set-up files this  
identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled  
the beta 2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/ 
LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's  
posting of the official beta.


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
  
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
  
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.
  
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
  
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.
  
 This message was after ./configure.
  
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
  
 Bob
  
  
 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv
 
 Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 with the
 same error message qt 4 library not found !.
 
 What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?
 
 I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:
 
 ./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
 --with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
 --enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
 --with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.
 
 During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't think it
 would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:
 
  Building macros...
         .
 /sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
   run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
   or see 
 http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
 http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal%22 ;.
 
 Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
 cleared up it will configure just fine.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
 compile LyX from source.
 
 Thanks,
 Bob Lounsbury
 
 Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me after trying
 QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so badly I had
 to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
 In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4 snapshot
 not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are reporting,
 whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope will be
 fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug report. Has
 anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX searches for
 the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know where in the
 set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
 Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled the beta
 2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/LyX_15b2_PPC.zip 
 If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's posting
 of the official beta.
 
 /Anders

 
I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only difference was
rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake install¹. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.

 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.

 This message was after ./configure.

 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with  
either of

 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?

 Bob


 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days  
ago

 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv

Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0  
with the

same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't  
think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of  
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;;.

Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me  
after trying QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess  
everything up so badly I had to trash my LyX source folder and  
reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4  
snapshot not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you  
are reporting, whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter  
two I hope will be fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to  
file a bug report. Has anyone done that). The former could perhaps be  
related to how LyX searches for the QT-installation (i.e. the search  
criterion). But I don't know where in the set-up files this  
identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled  
the beta 2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/ 
LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's  
posting of the official beta.


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
  
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
  
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.
  
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
  
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.
  
 This message was after ./configure.
  
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
  
 Bob
  
  
 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv
 
 Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 with the
 same error message qt 4 library not found !.
 
 What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?
 
 I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:
 
 ./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
 --with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
 --enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
 --with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.
 
 During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't think it
 would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:
 
  Building macros...
         .
 /sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
   run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
   or see 
 http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
 http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal%22 ;.
 
 Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
 cleared up it will configure just fine.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
 compile LyX from source.
 
 Thanks,
 Bob Lounsbury
 
 Bob, I think a make clean will solve it. At least it did for me after trying
 QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so badly I had
 to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
 In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4 snapshot
 not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are reporting,
 whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope will be
 fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug report. Has
 anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX searches for
 the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know where in the
 set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
 Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled the beta
 2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/LyX_15b2_PPC.zip 
 If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's posting
 of the official beta.
 
 /Anders

 
I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only difference was
rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake install¹. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Anders Ekberg]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, "Patrick De Visschere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>
>> On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>>>
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying "qt
 4 library not found !".
>>>
>>> Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
>>> In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
>>> directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
>>> Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your effort,
>>> Abdel.
>>
>> This message was after ./configure.
>>
>> Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
>> source
>> with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with  
either of

>> these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
>> just
>> want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
>> compile
>> LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
>> compiling Qt.
>> However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
>> Qt4.3.0 then
>> I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
> I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days  
ago

> on a (PPC) mac.
> pdv

Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0  
with the

same error message "qt 4 library not found !".

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

"./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug".

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't  
think it

would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

" Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of  
AM_PATH_GLIB

  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;;.

Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury


Bob, I think a "make clean" will solve it. At least it did for me  
after trying QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess  
everything up so badly I had to trash my LyX source folder and  
reinstall from svn...)
In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4  
snapshot not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you  
are reporting, whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter  
two I hope will be fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to  
file a bug report. Has anyone done that). The former could perhaps be  
related to how LyX searches for the QT-installation (i.e. the search  
criterion). But I don't know where in the set-up files this  
identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled  
the beta 2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/ 
LyX_15b2_PPC.zip
If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's  
posting of the official beta.


/Anders

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

 On 4/21/07 3:08 PM, "Anders Ekberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, "Patrick De Visschere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>>>  
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>  
>> Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
>> come to the
>> same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
>> saying "qt
>> 4 library not found !".
>  
> Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
> In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
> directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
> Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
>  
> Thanks a lot for your effort,
> Abdel.
  
 This message was after ./configure.
  
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
  
 Bob
  
  
>>> I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
>>> on a (PPC) mac.
>>> pdv
>> 
>> Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 with the
>> same error message "qt 4 library not found !".
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?
>> 
>> I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:
>> 
>> "./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
>> --with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
>> --enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
>> --with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug".
>> 
>> During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't think it
>> would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:
>> 
>> " Building macros...
>>         .
>> /sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
>>   run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
>>   or see 
>> http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;
>>  ;.
>> 
>> Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
>> cleared up it will configure just fine.
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
>> compile LyX from source.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob Lounsbury
> 
> Bob, I think a "make clean" will solve it. At least it did for me after trying
> QT4.3 (except for one time that I managed to mess everything up so badly I had
> to trash my LyX source folder and reinstall from svn...)
> In addition, after trying, I have found 4.3beta, 4.3 snapshot and 4.4 snapshot
> not to work. IIRC the beta gave the same problem that you are reporting,
> whereas the snapshots simply won't compile. The latter two I hope will be
> fixed by Trolltech (although I haven't had time to file a bug report. Has
> anyone done that). The former could perhaps be related to how LyX searches for
> the QT-installation (i.e. the search criterion). But I don't know where in the
> set-up files this identification is done. Does anyone have any ideas?
> Anyway, if you are in urgent need of a 1.5-version of LyX, I compiled the beta
> 2 and posted it at http://www.charmec.chalmers.se/temp/LyX_15b2_PPC.zip 
> If it is not that urgent, I would suggest that you wait for Bennett's posting
> of the official beta.
> 
> /Anders

 
I recompiled both Qt4.3.0snapshot and Qt4.2.3 and the only difference was
rather than using Œsudo make install¹ I just entered Œmake install¹. Now I
have LyX1.5.0beta2 compiled under Qt4.2.3, but I got the same error message
when trying Qt4.3.0snapshot Œqt 4 library not found¹. A bug report would be
great, I really want to see if Qt4.3 is faster. Thanks for the info.

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.
 
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
 
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.
 
 This message was after ./configure.
 
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
 
 Bob
 
 
 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv

Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 with the
same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't think it
would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see 
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;.

Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.
 
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
 
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.
 
 This message was after ./configure.
 
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
 
 Bob
 
 
 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv

Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 with the
same error message qt 4 library not found !.

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug.

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't think it
would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

 Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see 
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;.

Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, "Patrick De Visschere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>> On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>>> 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying "qt
 4 library not found !".
>>> 
>>> Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
>>> In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
>>> directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
>>> Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for your effort,
>>> Abdel.
>> 
>> This message was after ./configure.
>> 
>> Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
>> source
>> with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
>> these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
>> just
>> want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
>> compile
>> LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
>> compiling Qt.
>> However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
>> Qt4.3.0 then
>> I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
> I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
> on a (PPC) mac.
> pdv

Ok, LyX1.5.0svn has failed to compile with both Qt4.2.3 and Qt4.3.0 with the
same error message "qt 4 library not found !".

What am I doing wrong? Does something need to be altered for ppc macs?

I followed the install.macosx using the following ./configure command:

"./configure --prefix=/Applications/LyX.app --disable-concept-checks
--with-version-suffix=-1.5svn --with-qt4-dir=/sw/qt-4.2.3
--enable-optimization=-Os --without-x --with-included-gettext
--with-frontend=qt4 --disable-stdlib-debug".

During the ./autogen.sh the following pops up, although I wouldn't think it
would cause ./configure to fail relating to qt4 library not found:

" Building macros...
.
/sw/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see 
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal;.

Hopefully, I'm just doing something blatantly not wise and once it is
cleared up it will configure just fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! It would be nice to be able to
compile LyX from source.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying qt
4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk 
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list? 
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.


Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.

[Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying qt
 4 library not found !.
 
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
 
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.

This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further suggestions?

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Patrick De Visschere]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've  
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error  
saying qt

4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from  
source

with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I  
just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't  
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly  
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with  
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further  
suggestions?


Bob


I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago  
on a (PPC) mac.

pdv

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.
 
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
 
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.
 
 This message was after ./configure.
 
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
 
 Bob
 
 
 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv


If you don't mind. What were your ./configure commands for both Qt4.2.3 and
LyX1.5.0svn?

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying qt
4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk 
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list? 
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.


Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.

[Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying qt
 4 library not found !.
 
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
 
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.

This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further suggestions?

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Patrick De Visschere]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've  
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error  
saying qt

4 library not found !.


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from  
source

with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I  
just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't  
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly  
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with  
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further  
suggestions?


Bob


I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago  
on a (PPC) mac.

pdv

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, Patrick De Visschere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying qt
 4 library not found !.
 
 Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
 In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
 directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
 Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
 
 Thanks a lot for your effort,
 Abdel.
 
 This message was after ./configure.
 
 Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
 source
 with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
 these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
 just
 want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
 compile
 LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
 compiling Qt.
 However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
 Qt4.3.0 then
 I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
 suggestions?
 
 Bob
 
 
 I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
 on a (PPC) mac.
 pdv


If you don't mind. What were your ./configure commands for both Qt4.2.3 and
LyX1.5.0svn?

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying "qt
4 library not found !".


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk 
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list? 
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.


Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.

[Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>> Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
>> same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying "qt
>> 4 library not found !".
> 
> Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
> In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
> directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
> Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
> 
> Thanks a lot for your effort,
> Abdel.

This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from source
with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further suggestions?

Bob

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Patrick De Visschere]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've  
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error  
saying "qt

4 library not found !".


Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
Hopefully someone will solve the problem.

Thanks a lot for your effort,
Abdel.


This message was after ./configure.

Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from  
source

with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I  
just
want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't  
compile
LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly  
compiling Qt.
However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with  
Qt4.3.0 then
I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further  
suggestions?


Bob


I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago  
on a (PPC) mac.

pdv

Re: [Qt4.3 with LyX1.5.0 on mac] was {Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents}

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/19/07 11:53 AM, "Patrick De Visschere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>> On 4/19/07 1:53 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>>> 
 Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've
 come to the
 same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error
 saying "qt
 4 library not found !".
>>> 
>>> Is it after './autogen.sh' or after './configure'?
>>> In any case, I guess there should be some log file in the trunk
>>> directory. Could you please send that log(s) to the devel list?
>>> Hopefully someone will solve the problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for your effort,
>>> Abdel.
>> 
>> This message was after ./configure.
>> 
>> Just for shits and giggles I'm compiling Qt4.3.0 and Qt4.2.3 from
>> source
>> with the same commands to see if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with either of
>> these. I know there is a precompiled Qt4.2.3 package for mac, but I
>> just
>> want to see if I can make it work myself from source. If I can't
>> compile
>> LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 then I'll assume that I am not properly
>> compiling Qt.
>> However, if I can compile LyX1.5.0 with Qt4.2.3 but not with
>> Qt4.3.0 then
>> I'll assume there is potentially an LyX issue. Any further
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
> I've compiled QT4.2.3 and LyX1.5.0svn without problems a few days ago
> on a (PPC) mac.
> pdv


If you don't mind. What were your ./configure commands for both Qt4.2.3 and
LyX1.5.0svn?

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 9:30 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of
 current
 trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
 
 Abdel.
 
 I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't
 have the
 time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is
 a little
 bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write
 a thesis
 at the same time :)
 
 It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
 macports, simply enter sudo port install subversion and wait until
 it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.
 
 Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
 straightforward:
 
 svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
 cd lyx-devel
 
 Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
 configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.
 
 To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and enter:
 
 svn up
 
 You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
 configure and going straight to make).
 
 Bennett

Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying qt
4 library not found !. Is this the same issue you found Bennett?

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
macports, simply enter sudo port install subversion and wait until
it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.

Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
straightforward:

svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
cd lyx-devel

Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.

To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and  
enter:


svn up

You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
configure and going straight to make).

Bennett


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've  
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error  
saying qt

4 library not found !. Is this the same issue you found Bennett?


Actually, no, though I think it was the problem Anders Ekberg found  
(I think also on PPC Mac); I'm not sure what the cause of that is.


I wasn't able even to compile Qt-4.3beta, though I haven't had time  
to try very hard.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 9:30 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of
 current
 trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
 
 Abdel.
 
 I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't
 have the
 time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is
 a little
 bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write
 a thesis
 at the same time :)
 
 It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
 macports, simply enter sudo port install subversion and wait until
 it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.
 
 Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
 straightforward:
 
 svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
 cd lyx-devel
 
 Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
 configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.
 
 To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and enter:
 
 svn up
 
 You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
 configure and going straight to make).
 
 Bennett

Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying qt
4 library not found !. Is this the same issue you found Bennett?

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
macports, simply enter sudo port install subversion and wait until
it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.

Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
straightforward:

svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
cd lyx-devel

Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.

To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and  
enter:


svn up

You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
configure and going straight to make).

Bennett


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've  
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error  
saying qt

4 library not found !. Is this the same issue you found Bennett?


Actually, no, though I think it was the problem Anders Ekberg found  
(I think also on PPC Mac); I'm not sure what the cause of that is.


I wasn't able even to compile Qt-4.3beta, though I haven't had time  
to try very hard.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 9:30 AM, "Bennett Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>>> If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of
>>> current
>>> trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
>>> 
>>> Abdel.
>> 
>> I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't
>> have the
>> time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is
>> a little
>> bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write
>> a thesis
>> at the same time :)
> 
> It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
> macports, simply enter "sudo port install subversion" and wait until
> it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.
> 
> Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
> straightforward:
> 
> svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
> cd lyx-devel
> 
> Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
> configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.
> 
> To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and enter:
> 
> svn up
> 
> You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
> configure and going straight to make).
> 
> Bennett

Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error saying "qt
4 library not found !". Is this the same issue you found Bennett?

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 18, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
macports, simply enter "sudo port install subversion" and wait until
it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.

Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
straightforward:

svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
cd lyx-devel

Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.

To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and  
enter:


svn up

You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
configure and going straight to make).

Bennett


Well, after hours and hours and hours of compiling it seems I've  
come to the
same result as Bennett. When compiling LyX1.5.0svn I get an error  
saying "qt

4 library not found !". Is this the same issue you found Bennett?


Actually, no, though I think it was the problem Anders Ekberg found  
(I think also on PPC Mac); I'm not sure what the cause of that is.


I wasn't able even to compile Qt-4.3beta, though I haven't had time  
to try very hard.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.

As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
LyX-1.5.0 :-)
So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
info:

http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php

I'm not sure 

that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
use the
newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?

Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)

Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!

was for use 
with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.

Yep.

Abdel.


Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?


If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of current 
trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)


Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 3:35 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
 compile
 LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.
 As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
 LyX-1.5.0 :-)
 So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
 info:
 
 http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
 
 I'm not sure 
 that
 I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
 use the
 newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?
 Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)
 Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!
 
 was for use 
 with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.
 Yep.
 
 Abdel.
 
 Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
 now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
 looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
 LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
 svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?
 
 If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of current
 trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
 
 Abdel.

I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't have the
time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is a little
bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write a thesis
at the same time :)

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 9:30 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of
 current
 trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
 
 Abdel.
 
 I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't
 have the
 time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is
 a little
 bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write
 a thesis
 at the same time :)
 
 It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
 macports, simply enter sudo port install subversion and wait until
 it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.
 
 Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
 straightforward:
 
 svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
 cd lyx-devel
 
 Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
 configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.
 
 To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and enter:
 
 svn up
 
 You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
 configure and going straight to make).
 
 Bennett

Cool. For some reason I always went to the subversion.tigris webpage and it
looked to complicated or the LyX webpage went over my head for some reason.
However, that seems very simple. I'm installing svn from Fink Commander
right now. Then I'll get the latest sources and test them out with Qt4.3 and
see how everything works. I'm still on the make command for Qt4.3 so it may
take a while to get everything working. Takes a long time to compile
packages on this old iBook.

Thanks for all the help and tips!!
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.

As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
LyX-1.5.0 :-)
So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
info:

http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php

I'm not sure 

that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
use the
newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?

Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)

Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!

was for use 
with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.

Yep.

Abdel.


Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?


If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of current 
trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)


Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 3:35 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
 compile
 LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.
 As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
 LyX-1.5.0 :-)
 So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
 info:
 
 http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
 
 I'm not sure 
 that
 I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
 use the
 newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?
 Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)
 Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!
 
 was for use 
 with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.
 Yep.
 
 Abdel.
 
 Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
 now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
 looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
 LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
 svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?
 
 If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of current
 trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
 
 Abdel.

I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't have the
time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is a little
bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write a thesis
at the same time :)

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 9:30 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of
 current
 trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
 
 Abdel.
 
 I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't
 have the
 time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is
 a little
 bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write
 a thesis
 at the same time :)
 
 It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
 macports, simply enter sudo port install subversion and wait until
 it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.
 
 Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
 straightforward:
 
 svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
 cd lyx-devel
 
 Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
 configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.
 
 To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and enter:
 
 svn up
 
 You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
 configure and going straight to make).
 
 Bennett

Cool. For some reason I always went to the subversion.tigris webpage and it
looked to complicated or the LyX webpage went over my head for some reason.
However, that seems very simple. I'm installing svn from Fink Commander
right now. Then I'll get the latest sources and test them out with Qt4.3 and
see how everything works. I'm still on the make command for Qt4.3 so it may
take a while to get everything working. Takes a long time to compile
packages on this old iBook.

Thanks for all the help and tips!!
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:

Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.

As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
LyX-1.5.0 :-)
So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
info:

http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php

I'm not sure 

that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
use the
newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?

Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)

Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!

was for use 
with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.

Yep.

Abdel.


Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?


If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of current 
trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)


Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 3:35 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>> On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
> compile
> LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.
>>> As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
>>> LyX-1.5.0 :-)
>>> So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
>>> info:
>>> 
>>> http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
>>> 
 I'm not sure 
> that
> I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
> use the
> newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?
 Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)
>>> Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!
>>> 
 was for use 
 with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.
>>> Yep.
>>> 
>>> Abdel.
>> 
>> Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
>> now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
>> looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
>> LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
>> svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?
> 
> If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of current
> trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
> 
> Abdel.

I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't have the
time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is a little
bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write a thesis
at the same time :)

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/17/07 9:30 AM, "Bennett Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>>> If you are not willing to use SVN, I can send you a snapshot of
>>> current
>>> trunk instead. Beta 1 is too old :-)
>>> 
>>> Abdel.
>> 
>> I have no problem with trying the latest snapshot. I just don't
>> have the
>> time to figure out how to install svn and use it (seems like it is
>> a little
>> bit of a process from reading the lyx webpage). I'm trying to write
>> a thesis
>> at the same time :)
> 
> It's actually simpler than what you've already done. If you use
> macports, simply enter "sudo port install subversion" and wait until
> it's done. If you use fink (or Fink Commander) it's equally easy.
> 
> Then follow the instructions on the lyx webpage, which are
> straightforward:
> 
> svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel
> cd lyx-devel
> 
> Once you've got the sources, you'll need to run ./autogen.sh, then
> configure (with the same options you used for beta1), and make.
> 
> To update the sources, simply cd to the lyx-devel directory and enter:
> 
> svn up
> 
> You can then recompile (usually -- but not always -- skipping
> configure and going straight to make).
> 
> Bennett

Cool. For some reason I always went to the subversion.tigris webpage and it
looked to complicated or the LyX webpage went over my head for some reason.
However, that seems very simple. I'm installing svn from Fink Commander
right now. Then I'll get the latest sources and test them out with Qt4.3 and
see how everything works. I'm still on the make command for Qt4.3 so it may
take a while to get everything working. Takes a long time to compile
packages on this old iBook.

Thanks for all the help and tips!!
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to 
compile

LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.


As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming 
LyX-1.5.0 :-)
So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more 
info:


http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php

I'm not sure 

that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I 
use the

newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?


Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)


Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!

was for use 
with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.


Yep.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
 compile
 LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.
 
 As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
 LyX-1.5.0 :-)
 So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
 info:
 
 http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
 
 I'm not sure 
 that
 I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
 use the
 newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?
 
 Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)
 
 Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!
 
 was for use 
 with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.
 
 Yep.
 
 Abdel.

Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton  
application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to  
install

svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?



If you have the 1.5 sources, you have the LyX/Mac skeleton: it's in  
the development/MacOSX directory of the sources.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/16/07 2:26 PM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
 now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
 looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton
 application bundle
 LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to
 install
 svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?
 
 
 If you have the 1.5 sources, you have the LyX/Mac skeleton: it's in
 the development/MacOSX directory of the sources.
 
 Bennett

Ohhh, very cool.

Thank you,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to 
compile

LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.


As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming 
LyX-1.5.0 :-)
So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more 
info:


http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php

I'm not sure 

that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I 
use the

newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?


Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)


Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!

was for use 
with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.


Yep.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
 compile
 LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.
 
 As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
 LyX-1.5.0 :-)
 So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
 info:
 
 http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
 
 I'm not sure 
 that
 I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
 use the
 newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?
 
 Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)
 
 Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!
 
 was for use 
 with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.
 
 Yep.
 
 Abdel.

Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton  
application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to  
install

svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?



If you have the 1.5 sources, you have the LyX/Mac skeleton: it's in  
the development/MacOSX directory of the sources.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/16/07 2:26 PM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
 now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
 looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton
 application bundle
 LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to
 install
 svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?
 
 
 If you have the 1.5 sources, you have the LyX/Mac skeleton: it's in
 the development/MacOSX directory of the sources.
 
 Bennett

Ohhh, very cool.

Thank you,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to 
compile

LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.


As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming 
LyX-1.5.0 :-)
So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more 
info:


http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php

I'm not sure 

that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I 
use the

newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?


Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)


Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!

was for use 
with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.


Yep.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/16/07 3:34 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bennett Helm wrote:
>> On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>>> Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to
>>> compile
>>> LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found.
> 
> As Bennett said, my request for investigation was about the upcoming
> LyX-1.5.0 :-)
> So you need to test the *SVN* version of LyX. Look at this page for more
> info:
> 
> http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
> 
>> I'm not sure 
>>> that
>>> I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I
>>> use the
>>> newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?
>> 
>> Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?)
> 
> Right, 4.3. Qt4.4 is not for now!
> 
>> was for use 
>> with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.
> 
> Yep.
> 
> Abdel.

Gotcha :-). Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to install
svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton  
application bundle
LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to  
install

svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?



If you have the 1.5 sources, you have the LyX/Mac skeleton: it's in  
the development/MacOSX directory of the sources.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/16/07 2:26 PM, "Bennett Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
> 
>> Ok, so Qt4.3 just finished compiling and I'm running make right
>> now. I have the 1.5.0beta1 source ready to compile when it's done, but
>> looking at the INSTALL.MacOSX I need the LyX/Mac skeleton
>> application bundle
>> LyX.app. Is there anyway I can get that without figuring out how to
>> install
>> svn and whatever else I need (some much to learn, so little time)?
> 
> 
> If you have the 1.5 sources, you have the LyX/Mac skeleton: it's in
> the development/MacOSX directory of the sources.
> 
> Bennett

Ohhh, very cool.

Thank you,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/13/07 7:59 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
 upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
 especially on MacOS.
 Abdel.
 If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
 instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem
 testing it
 out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.
 
 How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?
 
 Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If
 that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:
 
 ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
 ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20
 070413.zip 
 
 
 Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.
 
 (As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile Qt-4.3.)
 
 Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.
 
 Abdel.

Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found. I'm not sure that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I use the
newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/13/07 7:59 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of  
the

upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.
If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving  
some

instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem
testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by  
yourself. If
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest  
snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0- 
snapshot-20

070413.zip


Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile  
Qt-4.3.)


Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.

Abdel.


Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try  
to compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found. I'm not  
sure that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I  
use the

newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?


Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?) was for  
use with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/13/07 7:59 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 
 Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
 upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
 especially on MacOS.
 Abdel.
 If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
 instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem
 testing it
 out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.
 
 How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?
 
 Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If
 that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:
 
 ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
 ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20
 070413.zip 
 
 
 Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.
 
 (As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile Qt-4.3.)
 
 Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.
 
 Abdel.

Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found. I'm not sure that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I use the
newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/13/07 7:59 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of  
the

upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.
If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving  
some

instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem
testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by  
yourself. If
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest  
snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0- 
snapshot-20

070413.zip


Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile  
Qt-4.3.)


Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.

Abdel.


Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try  
to compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found. I'm not  
sure that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I  
use the

newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?


Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?) was for  
use with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/13/07 7:59 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bennett Helm wrote:
>> On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
> upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
> especially on MacOS.
> Abdel.
 If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
 instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem
 testing it
 out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.
>>> 
>>> How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?
>>> 
>>> Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If
>>> that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:
>>> 
>>> ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
>>> ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20
>>> 070413.zip 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.
>> 
>> (As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile Qt-4.3.)
> 
> Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.
> 
> Abdel.

Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try to compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found. I'm not sure that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I use the
newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


On 4/13/07 7:59 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of  
the

upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.
If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving  
some

instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem
testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by  
yourself. If
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest  
snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0- 
snapshot-20

070413.zip


Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile  
Qt-4.3.)


Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.

Abdel.


Ok, I think I've got a snapshot of Qt4.4 compiled, but when I try  
to compile
LyX 1.4.4 I get an error that there is no makefile found. I'm not  
sure that
I setup the ./configure correctly. What do I enter to ensure that I  
use the

newly compiled Qt4.4 snapshot?


Note that Abdel's suggestion to use Qt-4.3 (not 4.4, right?) was for  
use with LyX-1.5svn. LyX-1.4.x works only with Qt-3.x.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.


If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If 
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070413.zip

Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.

Don't hesitate to ask for further help.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem  
testing it

out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself.  
If that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest  
snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0- 
snapshot-20070413.zip


Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile  
Qt-4.3.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:
On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem 
testing it

out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If 
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070413.zip 



Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile Qt-4.3.)


Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.


If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If 
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070413.zip

Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.

Don't hesitate to ask for further help.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem  
testing it

out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself.  
If that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest  
snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0- 
snapshot-20070413.zip


Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile  
Qt-4.3.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:
On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem 
testing it

out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If 
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070413.zip 



Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile Qt-4.3.)


Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.


If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If 
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070413.zip

Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.

Don't hesitate to ask for further help.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem  
testing it

out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself.  
If that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest  
snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0- 
snapshot-20070413.zip


Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile  
Qt-4.3.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Bob Lounsbury wrote:
On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
especially on MacOS.
Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem 
testing it

out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.


How did you test the latest 1.5.svn? By using a precompiled Qt4.2?

Here, I assume that you had had already compiled Qt4.2 by yourself. If 
that is so, then the procedure is simple, just grap the latest snapshot:


ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/snapshots/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070413.zip 



Then read INSTALL.MacOSX, it explains how to build Qt and LyX.


(As I indicated in another thread, I have been unable to compile Qt-4.3.)


Ah? I thought you tried the beta version only.

Abdel.

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
 upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
 especially on MacOS.
 Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
 upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
 especially on MacOS.
 Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/12/07 1:22 AM, "Abdelrazak Younes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be nice if you could test with the latest snapshot of the
> upcoming Qt4.3. I've been told that it's much quicker at drawing,
> especially on MacOS.
> Abdel.

If setting up Qt4.3 was fairly easy and you didn't mind giving some
instruction on what needs to be done, I wouldn't have a problem testing it
out. However, I would have the first clue on how to start.

Bob

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Pieter Bos]

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Robert Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LyX lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents



On 4/10/07 2:28 PM, Robert Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,
I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo. Opening and
working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well scrolling up
and down was a bit sluggish...)
But when I opened a document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx
hangs itself at the first attempt. At the second it opened the document
but when I tried the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting for 3
minutes with the fan running like a hair blower.
Is this a known issue for the mac? I know that lyx is much slower on
windows  than on linux but I thought with OS X beeing close to linux it
would be as fast as with linux...
regards
robert


I have LyX 1.4.4 on a 600Mhz iBook and I can open and view a pdf of a 25
page document with 11 figures in roughly 30 seconds.


On windows on an athlon64 2800+ here creating a pdf from a 91 page document 
with 20 figures (of which most contain subfigures) in about 40 seconds 
(pdflatex, ps or dvi is longer). So with that many figures and pages, at 
least on windows three minutes sounds like a correct number.


Pieter 

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:


Hello,
I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo. Opening  
and

working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well scrolling up
and down was a bit sluggish...)
But when I opened a document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx
hangs itself at the first attempt. At the second it opened the  
document
but when I tried the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting  
for 3

minutes with the fan running like a hair blower.
Is this a known issue for the mac? I know that lyx is much slower on
windows  than on linux but I thought with OS X beeing close to  
linux it

would be as fast as with linux...
regards
robert


There seem to be two issues you're describing. One is the hang when  
opening a large document. Since that occurred only once (as you  
describe it), it's hard to know what the cause is. (I regularly open  
a 240-page document [without any figures] on my macbook, and it takes  
2 seconds.) Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display  
the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one- 
by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.


The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --  
is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off  
typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My 240- 
page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with  
bibliography and index). Documents with graphics will naturally take  
longer, as the graphics may need to be converted into a proper format  
to produce the pdf. From what I can tell, typesetting in LaTeX on Mac  
is generally speedy.


There are some issues with speed on Mac, but these have to do with  
screen redraws when typing or navigating. Most of these have been  
overcome, and you shouldn't notice them with a macbook. (I do notice  
them on a 466 MHz iBook, but even then I wouldn't say it's a real  
problem.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/11/07 7:31 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo. Opening
 and
 working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well scrolling up
 and down was a bit sluggish...)
 But when I opened a document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx
 hangs itself at the first attempt. At the second it opened the
 document
 but when I tried the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting
 for 3
 minutes with the fan running like a hair blower.
 Is this a known issue for the mac? I know that lyx is much slower on
 windows  than on linux but I thought with OS X beeing close to
 linux it
 would be as fast as with linux...
 regards
 robert
 
 There seem to be two issues you're describing. One is the hang when
 opening a large document. Since that occurred only once (as you
 describe it), it's hard to know what the cause is. (I regularly open
 a 240-page document [without any figures] on my macbook, and it takes
 2 seconds.) Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display
 the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one-
 by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.
 
 The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --
 is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off
 typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My 240-
 page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with
 bibliography and index). Documents with graphics will naturally take
 longer, as the graphics may need to be converted into a proper format
 to produce the pdf. From what I can tell, typesetting in LaTeX on Mac
 is generally speedy.
 
 There are some issues with speed on Mac, but these have to do with
 screen redraws when typing or navigating. Most of these have been
 overcome, and you shouldn't notice them with a macbook. (I do notice
 them on a 466 MHz iBook, but even then I wouldn't say it's a real
 problem.)
 
 Bennett

Bennett,

You bring up a point I was planning to ask. I have also noticed a slowness
of screen redraws when typing or navigating on my 600Mhz iBook that was not
noticeable with LyX 1.3.7 but is noticeable with LyX 1.4.4. Specifically
when typing within figure floats and equations.

My question is: Is there a way to speed this up? i.e., turning off instant
preview, etc. or is it finally getting time to upgrade the old iBook.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Robert Neumann]

Thanks,
 Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display
 the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one-
 by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.
ok, I will turn of the graphics preview, I dont really need it.

 The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --
 is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off
 typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My 240-
 page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with
I used the i-installer for LaTeX. Is there a difference between this LaTeX and
the MacTeX?
Regards Robert

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:


Thanks,
 Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display

the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one-
by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.

ok, I will turn of the graphics preview, I dont really need it.


The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --
is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off
typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My  
240-

page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with
I used the i-installer for LaTeX. Is there a difference between  
this LaTeX and

the MacTeX?


Not that would explain an extreme slowdown. They're both (currently)  
based off of TeXLive and both have versions for Intel Macs.


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:


Bennett,

You bring up a point I was planning to ask. I have also noticed a  
slowness
of screen redraws when typing or navigating on my 600Mhz iBook that  
was not
noticeable with LyX 1.3.7 but is noticeable with LyX 1.4.4.  
Specifically

when typing within figure floats and equations.

My question is: Is there a way to speed this up? i.e., turning off  
instant

preview, etc. or is it finally getting time to upgrade the old iBook.


It is the result of significant changes in how LyX 1.4.x works as  
opposed to 1.3.x. The problem is worse when typing in insets -- boxes  
of text that can be opened or closed, like ERT boxes, footnotes, LyX  
notes, etc.


Is there anything that can be done? ... Not really. Smaller window  
sizes may help, but that's not a tradeoff I'm willing to make.


You might try out the beta of LyX-1.5 and let us know how performance  
of that compares and whether it's acceptable. A now somewhat outdated  
universal version can be found here:


http://edisk.fandm.edu/bennett.helm/LyX/LyX-1.5.0svn-Mac-universal.zip

Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 09:31:35AM -0400, Bennett Helm wrote:
 On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:
 
 Hello, I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo.
 Opening  and working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well
 scrolling up and down was a bit sluggish...) But when I opened a
 document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx hangs itself at the
 first attempt. At the second it opened the  document but when I tried
 the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting  for 3 minutes with
 the fan running like a hair blower.  Is this a known issue for the
 mac? I know that lyx is much slower on windows  than on linux but I
 thought with OS X beeing close to  linux it would be as fast as with
 linux...  regards robert
 
 There seem to be two issues you're describing. One is the hang when
 opening a large document. Since that occurred only once (as you
 describe it), it's hard to know what the cause is.

Computing LaTeX fonts?

Andre'

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/11/07 11:05 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Bob Lounsbury wrote:
 
 Bennett,
 
 You bring up a point I was planning to ask. I have also noticed a
 slowness
 of screen redraws when typing or navigating on my 600Mhz iBook that
 was not
 noticeable with LyX 1.3.7 but is noticeable with LyX 1.4.4.
 Specifically
 when typing within figure floats and equations.
 
 My question is: Is there a way to speed this up? i.e., turning off
 instant
 preview, etc. or is it finally getting time to upgrade the old iBook.
 
 It is the result of significant changes in how LyX 1.4.x works as
 opposed to 1.3.x. The problem is worse when typing in insets -- boxes
 of text that can be opened or closed, like ERT boxes, footnotes, LyX
 notes, etc.
 
 Is there anything that can be done? ... Not really. Smaller window
 sizes may help, but that's not a tradeoff I'm willing to make.
 
 You might try out the beta of LyX-1.5 and let us know how performance
 of that compares and whether it's acceptable. A now somewhat outdated
 universal version can be found here:
 
 http://edisk.fandm.edu/bennett.helm/LyX/LyX-1.5.0svn-Mac-universal.zip
 
 Bennett


I actually have 1.5.0beta1 and 1.5.0svn and this slowness is identical to
1.4.4. Interestingly though there is no slowness issue with 1.5.0beta1
under Ubuntu Linux on the same machine.

Regards,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Andre Poenitz wrote:


On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 09:31:35AM -0400, Bennett Helm wrote:

On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:


Hello, I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo.
Opening  and working on a document with 40 pages was no problem  
(well

scrolling up and down was a bit sluggish...) But when I opened a
document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx hangs itself at the
first attempt. At the second it opened the  document but when I  
tried

the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting  for 3 minutes with
the fan running like a hair blower.  Is this a known issue for the
mac? I know that lyx is much slower on windows  than on linux but I
thought with OS X beeing close to  linux it would be as fast as with
linux...  regards robert


There seem to be two issues you're describing. One is the hang when
opening a large document. Since that occurred only once (as you
describe it), it's hard to know what the cause is.


Computing LaTeX fonts?


Not when simply opening the document within LyX, of course. (Perhaps  
that's an explanation for the typesetting slowdown; if so, then it  
should happen only once and be much faster on subsequent runs.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Pieter Bos]

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Robert Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LyX lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents



On 4/10/07 2:28 PM, Robert Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,
I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo. Opening and
working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well scrolling up
and down was a bit sluggish...)
But when I opened a document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx
hangs itself at the first attempt. At the second it opened the document
but when I tried the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting for 3
minutes with the fan running like a hair blower.
Is this a known issue for the mac? I know that lyx is much slower on
windows  than on linux but I thought with OS X beeing close to linux it
would be as fast as with linux...
regards
robert


I have LyX 1.4.4 on a 600Mhz iBook and I can open and view a pdf of a 25
page document with 11 figures in roughly 30 seconds.


On windows on an athlon64 2800+ here creating a pdf from a 91 page document 
with 20 figures (of which most contain subfigures) in about 40 seconds 
(pdflatex, ps or dvi is longer). So with that many figures and pages, at 
least on windows three minutes sounds like a correct number.


Pieter 

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bennett Helm]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:


Hello,
I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo. Opening  
and

working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well scrolling up
and down was a bit sluggish...)
But when I opened a document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx
hangs itself at the first attempt. At the second it opened the  
document
but when I tried the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting  
for 3

minutes with the fan running like a hair blower.
Is this a known issue for the mac? I know that lyx is much slower on
windows  than on linux but I thought with OS X beeing close to  
linux it

would be as fast as with linux...
regards
robert


There seem to be two issues you're describing. One is the hang when  
opening a large document. Since that occurred only once (as you  
describe it), it's hard to know what the cause is. (I regularly open  
a 240-page document [without any figures] on my macbook, and it takes  
2 seconds.) Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display  
the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one- 
by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.


The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --  
is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off  
typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My 240- 
page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with  
bibliography and index). Documents with graphics will naturally take  
longer, as the graphics may need to be converted into a proper format  
to produce the pdf. From what I can tell, typesetting in LaTeX on Mac  
is generally speedy.


There are some issues with speed on Mac, but these have to do with  
screen redraws when typing or navigating. Most of these have been  
overcome, and you shouldn't notice them with a macbook. (I do notice  
them on a 466 MHz iBook, but even then I wouldn't say it's a real  
problem.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Bob Lounsbury]

On 4/11/07 7:31 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I just installed lyx 144 sucessfully on a macbook core duo. Opening
 and
 working on a document with 40 pages was no problem (well scrolling up
 and down was a bit sluggish...)
 But when I opened a document with 290 pages and about 80 figures lyx
 hangs itself at the first attempt. At the second it opened the
 document
 but when I tried the pdf-preview I had to close Lyx after waiting
 for 3
 minutes with the fan running like a hair blower.
 Is this a known issue for the mac? I know that lyx is much slower on
 windows  than on linux but I thought with OS X beeing close to
 linux it
 would be as fast as with linux...
 regards
 robert
 
 There seem to be two issues you're describing. One is the hang when
 opening a large document. Since that occurred only once (as you
 describe it), it's hard to know what the cause is. (I regularly open
 a 240-page document [without any figures] on my macbook, and it takes
 2 seconds.) Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display
 the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one-
 by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.
 
 The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --
 is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off
 typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My 240-
 page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with
 bibliography and index). Documents with graphics will naturally take
 longer, as the graphics may need to be converted into a proper format
 to produce the pdf. From what I can tell, typesetting in LaTeX on Mac
 is generally speedy.
 
 There are some issues with speed on Mac, but these have to do with
 screen redraws when typing or navigating. Most of these have been
 overcome, and you shouldn't notice them with a macbook. (I do notice
 them on a 466 MHz iBook, but even then I wouldn't say it's a real
 problem.)
 
 Bennett

Bennett,

You bring up a point I was planning to ask. I have also noticed a slowness
of screen redraws when typing or navigating on my 600Mhz iBook that was not
noticeable with LyX 1.3.7 but is noticeable with LyX 1.4.4. Specifically
when typing within figure floats and equations.

My question is: Is there a way to speed this up? i.e., turning off instant
preview, etc. or is it finally getting time to upgrade the old iBook.

Thanks,
Bob Lounsbury

Re: Lyx 144 on Intel Mac: problems with large documents

[Robert Neumann]

Thanks,
 Part of the issue may stem from your having LyX display
 the graphics; doing this requires that LyX convert the graphics one-
 by-one to a format it is able to display, and this may take a while.
ok, I will turn of the graphics preview, I dont really need it.

 The other issue -- taking a long time view a pdf of your document --
 is not an issue with LyX but rather with LaTeX: LyX hands off
 typesetting tasks to LaTeX, which then runs in the background. My 240-
 page document takes about 23 seconds to typeset (and that's with
I used the i-installer for LaTeX. Is there a difference between this LaTeX and
the MacTeX?
Regards Robert