RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[george b]

Yes go to

www.apple.com/support

then in the search edit field type "pages keyboard shortcuts"

then when you get the shortcut tables you can bookmark, send to yourself,
but the other choice is print and then in the print window for your mac
choose file and PDF and then print and it will ask where to save the file
choose a place and do it

now you will have a PDF of the shortcuts

-Original Message-
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:33
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Can I export it somewhere to Braille it???
At 11:23 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
>Yes put it in your bookmarks
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:15
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>Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
>At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
> >Hello Ismael,
> >
> >In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the
> >Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO
> >keys to navigate down to this option.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Anne
> >
> >
> > > On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
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RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[Ann Byrne]

Can I export it somewhere to Braille it???
At 11:23 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:

Yes put it in your bookmarks

-Original Message-
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:15
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
>Hello Ismael,
>
>In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the
>Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO
>keys to navigate down to this option.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Anne
>
>
> > On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
> >
> > greetings every one!
> > Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?
> >
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RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[george b]

Yes put it in your bookmarks 

-Original Message-
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 09:15
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
>Hello Ismael,
>
>In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the 
>Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO 
>keys to navigate down to this option.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Anne
>
>
> > On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
> >
> > greetings every one!
> > Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?
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Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:

Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the 
Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO 
keys to navigate down to this option.


Cheers,

Anne


> On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
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> greetings every one!
> Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?
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Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the Help menu and 
down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO keys to navigate down to 
this option.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
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> greetings every one!
> Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?  
> 
> 
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[Mac-Access]: pages question

[Ismael Herrera]

greetings every one!
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Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

I use the side bar table to read those. it's much much easier to read those 
now. 

Take care.
> On May 25, 2015, at 10:02 PM, RATTRAY J.  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and 
> comments - I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - 
> experienced the same problems as you re selecting text that goes over 
> multiple pages so if Ann could post the solution to that I would love it. But 
> the one thing I can’t seem to get it to do is read comment bubbles or track 
> changes. - actually it does read the changes a bit now as it will read both 
> suggested changes but the comments bubbles I really want it to read
> 
> Julie 
> Dr Julie Rattray
> Lecturer in Psychology and Education
> University of durham
> School of Education
> Leazes Road 
> DURHAM
> DH1 1TA
> 
> Tel: 0191 33 48249
> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk <mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 26 May 2015, at 05:47, Sarah k Alawami > <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the 
>> formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button.
>> 
>> I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this 
>> helps for now. 
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth >> <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?
>>>  
>>> Margaret 
>>>  
>>> From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
>>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
>>>  
>>> To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep 
>>> asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm 
>>> thinking of doing both, but it will take time.
>>>  
>>> To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but 
>>> you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this 
>>> through file then templets.
>>>  
>>> Take cre.
>>>> On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth >>> <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>>>> Air. 
>>>>  
>>>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how 
>>>> to use Pages the word processor. 
>>>>  
>>>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you 
>>>> have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>>>>  
>>>> Margaret
>> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'll give this a try. This could be a temporary work around  until apple fixes 
the pages with voice over issue. and the across page boundaries is a voice over 
issue only as I stated before. I tested this. In the mean time I think I'll 
keep contacting accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and 
keep worrying them about the issue.

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> On May 25, 2015, at 10:52 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here is the fix for this problem.
> 
> Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
> 
> "{
> "^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
> "^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
> "^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
> "^x" = { //control-x control-x
> "^x" = "selectToMark:";
> };
> "^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
> "~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
> "~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
> }"
> 
> Save the document as:
> DefaultKeyBinding.dict
> 
> You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
> 
> Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
> keys to navigate down to Library.
> Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
> 
> From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
> application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
> and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
> selected, including page breaks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[Angela Delicata]

Please, be so kind and nice to post unsubscribe options... I've looked 
everywhere!

Nothing happened!
What can I do? Help me please.
Many thanks in advance.
Angela from Italy



Il 26/05/2015 07:52, Anne Robertson ha scritto:

Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

"{
"^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
"^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
"^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
"^x" = { //control-x control-x
"^x" = "selectToMark:";
};
"^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
"~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
"~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
}"

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO keys 
to navigate down to Library.
Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

 From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing application 
by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, and Ctrl-x-x to 
mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be selected, 
including page breaks.

Cheers,

Anne







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Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Exceellent thank you Anne.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries


Hello Eleanor,

I carefully left a blank line before and after the text to be copied into 
the TextEdit document. So all you have to do is select the text after the 
first quotation mark and up to the last quotation mark and copy it to the 
clipboard, then paste it into a TextEdit document.


Cheers,

Anne


On 26 May 2015, at 11:24, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of 
punctuation and multiple " signs.  Is it possible to write out this 
exactly as it should be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces 
also and does one put the ;


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries


Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

"{
"^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
"^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
"^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
"^x" = { //control-x control-x
"^x" = "selectToMark:";
};
"^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
"~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
"~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
}"

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
keys to navigate down to Library.

Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will 
be selected, including page breaks.


Cheers,

Anne

Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eleanor,

I carefully left a blank line before and after the text to be copied into the 
TextEdit document. So all you have to do is select the text after the first 
quotation mark and up to the last quotation mark and copy it to the clipboard, 
then paste it into a TextEdit document.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 26 May 2015, at 11:24, Eleanor Martha Burke  
> wrote:
> 
> I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of punctuation 
> and multiple " signs.  Is it possible to write out this exactly as it should 
> be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces also and does one put 
> the ;
> 
> Eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
> Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here is the fix for this problem.
> 
> Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
> 
> "{
> "^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
> "^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
> "^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
> "^x" = { //control-x control-x
> "^x" = "selectToMark:";
> };
> "^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
> "~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
> "~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
> }"
> 
> Save the document as:
> DefaultKeyBinding.dict
> 
> You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
> 
> Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
> keys to navigate down to Library.
> Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
> 
> From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
> application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
> and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
> selected, including page breaks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I find the information below very confusing as there is a lot of punctuation 
and multiple " signs.  Is it possible to write out this exactly as it should 
be written?  For instance does one put all the spaces also and does one put 
the ;


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:52 AM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries


Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

"{
"^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
"^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
"^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
"^x" = { //control-x control-x
"^x" = "selectToMark:";
};
"^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
"~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
"~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
}"

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
keys to navigate down to Library.

Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
selected, including page breaks.


Cheers,

Anne

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Julie,

To find the next comment or change, press Cmd-Option-k and you should land in a 
popover where you can read the comment or change and who did it. You can also 
accept or reject it. If the popover doesn’t come up, try pressing VO-Shift-j.

Cheers,

Anne
 

> On 26 May 2015, at 07:02, RATTRAY J.  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and 
> comments - I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - 
> experienced the same problems as you re selecting text that goes over 
> multiple pages so if Ann could post the solution to that I would love it. But 
> the one thing I can’t seem to get it to do is read comment bubbles or track 
> changes. - actually it does read the changes a bit now as it will read both 
> suggested changes but the comments bubbles I really want it to read
> 
> Julie 
> Dr Julie Rattray
> Lecturer in Psychology and Education
> University of durham
> School of Education
> Leazes Road 
> DURHAM
> DH1 1TA
> 
> Tel: 0191 33 48249
> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk <mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 26 May 2015, at 05:47, Sarah k Alawami > <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the 
>> formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button.
>> 
>> I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this 
>> helps for now. 
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth >> <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?
>>>  
>>> Margaret 
>>>  
>>> From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
>>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
>>>  
>>> To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep 
>>> asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm 
>>> thinking of doing both, but it will take time.
>>>  
>>> To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but 
>>> you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this 
>>> through file then templets.
>>>  
>>> Take cre.
>>>> On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth >>> <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>>>> Air. 
>>>>  
>>>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how 
>>>> to use Pages the word processor. 
>>>>  
>>>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you 
>>>> have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>>>>  
>>>> Margaret
>> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[RATTRAY J.]

thanks this is reallyhelpful 
Dr Julie Rattray
Lecturer in Psychology and Education
University of durham
School of Education
Leazes Road 
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 33 48249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk



> On 26 May 2015, at 06:52, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here is the fix for this problem.
> 
> Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
> 
> "{
> "^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
> "^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
> "^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
> "^x" = { //control-x control-x
> "^x" = "selectToMark:";
> };
> "^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
> "~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
> "~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
> }"
> 
> Save the document as:
> DefaultKeyBinding.dict
> 
> You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
> 
> Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO 
> keys to navigate down to Library.
> Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
> 
> From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing 
> application by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, 
> and Ctrl-x-x to mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be 
> selected, including page breaks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 

[Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Here is the fix for this problem.

Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:

"{
"^y" = "yankAndSelect:"; //control-y
"^\@" = "setMark:"; //control-@
"^w" = "deleteToMark:"; //control-w
"^x" = { //control-x control-x
"^x" = "selectToMark:";
};
"^ " = "setMark:"; //control-space
"~f" = "moveWordForward:"; //option-f
"~b" = "moveWordBackward:"; //option-b
}"

Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict

You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.

Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO keys 
to navigate down to Library.
Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.

From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing application 
by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, and Ctrl-x-x to 
mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be selected, 
including page breaks.

Cheers,

Anne

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[RATTRAY J.]

hi,

one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and comments 
- I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - experienced the same 
problems as you re selecting text that goes over multiple pages so if Ann could 
post the solution to that I would love it. But the one thing I can’t seem to 
get it to do is read comment bubbles or track changes. - actually it does read 
the changes a bit now as it will read both suggested changes but the comments 
bubbles I really want it to read

Julie
Dr Julie Rattray
Lecturer in Psychology and Education
University of durham
School of Education
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 33 48249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk<mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>



On 26 May 2015, at 05:47, Sarah k Alawami 
mailto:marri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the 
formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button.

I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this 
helps for now.

Take care.
On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth 
mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?

Margaret

From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me 
to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of 
doing both, but it will take time.

To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you 
can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through 
file then templets.

Take cre.
On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth 
mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air.

Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use 
Pages the word processor.

The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
created a new document? Also how to you use styles?

Margaret

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the 
formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button.

I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this 
helps for now. 

Take care.
> On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?
>  
> Margaret 
>  
> From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
>  
> To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking 
> me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of 
> doing both, but it will take time.
>  
> To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but 
> you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this 
> through file then templets.
>  
> Take cre.
>> On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth > <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>> Air. 
>>  
>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
>> use Pages the word processor. 
>>  
>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
>> created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>>  
>> Margaret

RE: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Margaret Booth]

I have heard of this book before. No I haven’t read it. I know you can get it 
in iBook’s but do you know if I can get it elsewhere? If you can where?

 

Margaret 

 

From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] 
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 6:52 PM
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

 

Hello Margaret,

 

Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. 

 

Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use 
Pages the word processor. 

 

The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 

 

Margaret 

 

RE: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Margaret Booth]

Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter?

 

Margaret 

 

From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

 

To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me 
to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of 
doing both, but it will take time.

 

To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you 
can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through 
file then templets.

 

Take cre.

On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. 

 

Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use 
Pages the word processor. 

 

The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 

 

Margaret 

 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

That would be grate. That seems to be the only show stopper, that and the 
naming of tables problem and the table of contents, but  other then that, pages 
is very much usable;  I passed my class thesis with it. Wahoo!

Blessings to all.
> On May 25, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sarah,
> 
> There’s a way of fixing the selecting text problem that was posted to another 
> list. When I lay my hands on it, I’ll post it here.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 25 May 2015, at 19:00, Sarah k Alawami > <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times 
>> now is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified 
>> this is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple 
>> pages.  Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one.
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson >> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Margaret,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
>>> VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using 
>>> Pages.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth >>> <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>>>> Air. 
>>>>  
>>>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how 
>>>> to use Pages the word processor. 
>>>>  
>>>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you 
>>>> have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>>>>  
>>>> Margaret 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

no.



> On 25 May 2015, at 22:00, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or .rtf file to be read on a 
> portable player???
> 
> 
> 
> At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote:
>> Hello Margaret,
>> 
>> Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
>> VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using 
>> Pages.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth 
>>> <<mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>margaretebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>>> Air.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
>>> use Pages the word processor.
>>> 
>>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
>>> created a new document? Also how to you use styles?
>>> 
>>> Margaret
> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or 
.rtf file to be read on a portable player???




At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote:

Hello Margaret,

Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, 
"Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A 
lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages.


Cheers,

Anne


On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth 
<<mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>margaretebo...@gmail.com> wrote:


I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to 
use Pages on her new Mac Book Air.


Has anyone got suggestions on where I could 
find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor.


The other question I have is how do you get to 
the templates after you have created a new 
document? Also how to you use styles?


Margaret

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sarah,

There’s a way of fixing the selecting text problem that was posted to another 
list. When I lay my hands on it, I’ll post it here.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 25 May 2015, at 19:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now 
> is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this 
> is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages.  
> Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one.
> 
> Take care.
>> On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson > <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Margaret,
>> 
>> Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
>> VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using 
>> Pages.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth >> <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>>> Air. 
>>>  
>>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
>>> use Pages the word processor. 
>>>  
>>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
>>> created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>>>  
>>> Margaret 
>> 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now 
is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this is 
a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages.  
Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one.

Take care.
> On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Margaret,
> 
> Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
> VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using 
> Pages.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth > <mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
>> Air. 
>>  
>> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
>> use Pages the word processor. 
>>  
>> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
>> created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>>  
>> Margaret 
> 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

To  use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me 
to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of 
doing both, but it will take time.

To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you 
can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through 
file then templets.

Take cre.
> On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth  wrote:
> 
> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
> Air. 
>  
> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
> use Pages the word processor. 
>  
> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
> created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>  
> Margaret 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Indeed Ann, I found it brilliant as a beginner last year.

Eleanor
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anne Robertson 
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages


  Hello Margaret,


  Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages.


  Cheers,


  Anne




On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth  wrote:


I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
Air. 

Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
use Pages the word processor. 

The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 

Margaret 

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Margaret,

Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, "Mastering the Macintosh with 
VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth  wrote:
> 
> I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book 
> Air. 
>  
> Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to 
> use Pages the word processor. 
>  
> The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have 
> created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 
>  
> Margaret 

[Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Margaret Booth]

I'm helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book
Air. 

 

Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to
use Pages the word processor. 

 

The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have
created a new document? Also how to you use styles? 

 

Margaret 

Re: [Mac-access]: Tutorial for Pages???

[John Panarese]

Anne Robertson is the person to speak to about Pages.  I believe she's on 
this list or was. I'm not sure about podcasts or such, but she offers training 
on Pages with her husband.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



> On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Can someone refer me to a document or podcast about using Pages with 
> VoiceOver?
> 
> Much thanks,
> 
> Ann
>   
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[Mac-access]: Tutorial for Pages???

[Ann Byrne]

Can someone refer me to a document or podcast about using Pages with VoiceOver?

Much thanks,

Ann
   


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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

You have not spelt his name correctly it is Sniffin
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Munro" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual


The Author’s Name is Tim Smiffen. I believe it is available in other 
formats, but I don’t know where.



On 27 Jan, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Margaret Booth  
wrote:


What is the name of the author? I'm curious can you get this book 
anywhere else.


Margaret


Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jan 2015, at 4:01 am, Robert Munro  wrote:

I recommend the book “Mastering the Macintosh.” It’s written 
specifically for blind and low vision users.


The book devotes a whole chapter to pages later in the book after 
dealing with the finder, male, safari, and so forth.


The book is available in the ibooks store for free. It was originally 
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Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Robert Munro]

The Author’s Name is Tim Smiffen. I believe it is available in other formats, 
but I don’t know where.

  
> On 27 Jan, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Margaret Booth  wrote:
> 
> What is the name of the author? I'm curious can you get this book anywhere 
> else. 
> 
> Margaret 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Jan 2015, at 4:01 am, Robert Munro  wrote:
>> 
>> I recommend the book “Mastering the Macintosh.” It’s written specifically 
>> for blind and low vision users.
>> 
>> The book devotes a whole chapter to pages later in the book after dealing 
>> with the finder, male, safari, and so forth.
>> 
>> The book is available in the ibooks store for free. It was originally 
>> written for the Veterans Administration, and given to blind veterans; so the 
>> author decided to let everyone have it for free.
>> 
>> Good luck, and happy typing.
>> 
>> Onward!
>> 
>> Rob Munro
>> 
>>> On 27 Jan, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - 
>>> either with or without voice over.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Tim Sniffin
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Booth" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual


What is the name of the author? I'm curious can you get this book anywhere 
else.


Margaret


Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jan 2015, at 4:01 am, Robert Munro  wrote:

I recommend the book “Mastering the Macintosh.” It’s written specifically 
for blind and low vision users.


The book devotes a whole chapter to pages later in the book after dealing 
with the finder, male, safari, and so forth.


The book is available in the ibooks store for free. It was originally 
written for the Veterans Administration, and given to blind veterans; so 
the author decided to let everyone have it for free.


Good luck, and happy typing.

Onward!

Rob Munro

On 27 Jan, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:


Hi listers,

Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - 
either with or without voice over.


Kind regards
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Margaret Booth]

What is the name of the author? I'm curious can you get this book anywhere 
else. 

Margaret 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Jan 2015, at 4:01 am, Robert Munro  wrote:
> 
> I recommend the book “Mastering the Macintosh.” It’s written specifically for 
> blind and low vision users.
> 
> The book devotes a whole chapter to pages later in the book after dealing 
> with the finder, male, safari, and so forth.
> 
> The book is available in the ibooks store for free. It was originally written 
> for the Veterans Administration, and given to blind veterans; so the author 
> decided to let everyone have it for free.
> 
> Good luck, and happy typing.
> 
> Onward!
> 
> Rob Munro
> 
>> On 27 Jan, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - 
>> either with or without voice over.
>> 
>> Kind regards
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Could not agree more with you Rob, however it has not been written or 
updated with Yosemite in mind.  I still think it is excellent.
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Munro" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual


I recommend the book “Mastering the Macintosh.” It’s written specifically 
for blind and low vision users.


The book devotes a whole chapter to pages later in the book after dealing 
with the finder, male, safari, and so forth.


The book is available in the ibooks store for free. It was originally 
written for the Veterans Administration, and given to blind veterans; so 
the author decided to let everyone have it for free.


Good luck, and happy typing.

Onward!

Rob Munro

On 27 Jan, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Ian Harrison 
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Hi listers,

Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - 
either with or without voice over.


Kind regards
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Robert Munro]

I recommend the book “Mastering the Macintosh.” It’s written specifically for 
blind and low vision users.

The book devotes a whole chapter to pages later in the book after dealing with 
the finder, male, safari, and so forth.

The book is available in the ibooks store for free. It was originally written 
for the Veterans Administration, and given to blind veterans; so the author 
decided to let everyone have it for free.

Good luck, and happy typing.
 
Onward!

Rob Munro

> On 27 Jan, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Ian Harrison 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - either 
> with or without voice over.
> 
> Kind regards
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Tim Sniffin's Book that is on iBook Store
- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Harrison" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:12 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual



Hi listers,

Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - 
either with or without voice over.


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[Mac-access]: Pages on the mac manual

[Ian Harrison]

Hi listers,

Can I please have a recommendation for a manual for Pages on the mac - either 
with or without voice over.

Kind regards
Ian
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Re: [Mac-access]: file format in pages question

[Sarah k Alawami]

No there is not. I do this with pdfs all the time and it's very quick and easy 
to do. The reason for pdfs is the user cannot modify thefile. 
> On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne and others,
> 
> 
>   is there any way to tell pages to just save in word as the default?  It 
> seems even when I try to save a .dox file Pages insists on making it into a 
> pages file unless I go through export every time.  this is pretty time 
> consuming.
> 
> is there a fast way to open then save a word file?
> 
> Thanks, I’m starting to feel like I need to push my Pages skills a bit.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Cait,
>> 
>> To save a Pages document in another format you need to use Export to which 
>> is in the File menu. The available formats are: PDF, Word, Plain Text, EPUB 
>> and Pages09.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>>> On 6 Jan 2015, at 14:16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> How can I select a different file format for a pages document other then 
>>> the default .pages one?  when I pulled up the save dialog, I didn’t see any 
>>> choices for the file format and it already had the .pages one selected..
>>> 
>>> thanks,
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Re: [Mac-access]: file format in pages question

[Eric Caron]

Hi Anne and others,


is there any way to tell pages to just save in word as the default?  It 
seems even when I try to save a .dox file Pages insists on making it into a 
pages file unless I go through export every time.  this is pretty time 
consuming.

is there a fast way to open then save a word file?

Thanks, I’m starting to feel like I need to push my Pages skills a bit.

Eric Caron 



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> To save a Pages document in another format you need to use Export to which is 
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> Cheers,
> 
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>> On 6 Jan 2015, at 14:16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
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>> hi,
>> How can I select a different file format for a pages document other then the 
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Re: [Mac-access]: file format in pages question

[Caitlyn Furness]

thanks Anne!

Why I didn’t think to look there is beyond me!
Cait

> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Cait,
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> To save a Pages document in another format you need to use Export to which is 
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> Cheers,
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>> On 6 Jan 2015, at 14:16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
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>> hi,
>> How can I select a different file format for a pages document other then the 
>> default .pages one?  when I pulled up the save dialog, I didn’t see any 
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Re: [Mac-access]: file format in pages question

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Cait,

To save a Pages document in another format you need to use Export to which is 
in the File menu. The available formats are: PDF, Word, Plain Text, EPUB and 
Pages09.

Cheers,

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[Mac-access]: file format in pages question

[Caitlyn Furness]

hi,
How can I select a different file format for a pages document other then the 
default .pages one?  when I pulled up the save dialog, I didn’t see any choices 
for the file format and it already had the .pages one selected..

thanks,
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Re: [Mac-access]: Libroffic VS pages

[christopher hallsworth]

I have no experience with LibreOffice but I do with pages. It works well for 
what I use it for, basic documents.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Libroffic VS pages

[David Griffith]

I had a look at Libre Office last week and my conclusion is that there is no 
real comparison really at the moment.
Libre Office has only clunky and limited Voiceover support. There is for 
example no way to read anything more than a paragraph at time. There is also a 
lot of irksome Voiceover verbosity chatter even when verbosity is set to low.

The suite is free so there is nothing to stop you having a try but I found it a 
frustrating environment to operate in and ended up deleting the app.
pages is also free if you have Yosemite. Purely personally TextEdit remains my 
Word Processor of choice on the mac.

David Griffith
 
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[Mac-access]: Libroffic VS pages

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Good morning or evening wherever you may be everyone

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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yep. I did all of that except it never shows up wiht the services.  and I 
checked all 111 of mine.
]
Blessings. 
> On Nov 30, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> MoveMouse works just fine in Yosemite. You have to copy the MoveMouse Unix 
> Executable File to the clipboard and then press Cmd-Shift-a and paste it 
> there. You then have to go to Library and open Services. That’s where you 
> paste the four work flows. You then open System Preferences and go to the 
> Keyboard tab. You’ll find the four MoveMouse functions under Services. Give 
> each one a shortcut and you’re good to go.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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>> I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when 
>> you unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under 
>> that folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable 
>> with no extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, 
>> nor do the services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions 
>> to the letter as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so 
>> maybe something in it broke.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

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Hello Sarah,

MoveMouse works just fine in Yosemite. You have to copy the MoveMouse Unix 
Executable File to the clipboard and then press Cmd-Shift-a and paste it there. 
You then have to go to Library and open Services. That’s where you paste the 
four work flows. You then open System Preferences and go to the Keyboard tab. 
You’ll find the four MoveMouse functions under Services. Give each one a 
shortcut and you’re good to go.

Cheers,

Anne


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> I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when 
> you unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under 
> that folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable 
> with no extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, nor 
> do the services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions to 
> the letter as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so maybe 
> something in it broke.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

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Hello Sarah,

Of course I’ve e-mailed Accessibility. I always do, for what it’s worth.

Cheers,

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> with yoru findings?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

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I think we've got an issue.  The utility does not work  as advertised. when you 
unzip the 4 work flows folder appears, but the 4 work flows appear under that 
folder as well. Also the move mouse is not an app but a unix executable with no 
extension. running it does not make it appear in the extras menu, nor do the 
services appear in the  keyboard prefs. I followed the directions to the letter 
as Iv'e done stuff like this before. I'm running Yosemite so maybe something in 
it broke.
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> Hello Phil,
> 
> Here’s the link to get MoveMouse:
> <http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
> <http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/>>
> 
> Read the installation notes carefully and it should all work fine. I set the 
> shortcuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-Arrow key according to the direction of movement.
> 
> MoveMouse doesn’t work in popovers unfortunately. You still need to use 
> Mousekeys there, or the trackpad if you have a steady hand. I prefer to use 
> the trackpad as it avoids having to remember to turn Mousekeys off again.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>> Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
>> utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
>> just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this 
>> mouse move utility.
>> thanks
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
>>> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any 
>>> elements in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, 
>>> those checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
>>> 
>>> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
>>> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
>>> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
>>> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
>>> requires around ten moves right.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

[Sarah k Alawami]

have you emailed accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> with 
yoru findings?

Take care. 
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
> 
> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
> requires around ten moves right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Phil,

Here’s the link to get MoveMouse:
<http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
<http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/>>

Read the installation notes carefully and it should all work fine. I set the 
shortcuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-Arrow key according to the direction of movement.

MoveMouse doesn’t work in popovers unfortunately. You still need to use 
Mousekeys there, or the trackpad if you have a steady hand. I prefer to use the 
trackpad as it avoids having to remember to turn Mousekeys off again.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:25, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
> utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
> just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this 
> mouse move utility.
> thanks
> 
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
>> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
>> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
>> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
>> 
>> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
>> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
>> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
>> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
>> requires around ten moves right.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

[Phil Halton]

Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this mouse 
move utility.
thanks

On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
> 
> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
> requires around ten moves right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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[Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

[Anne Robertson]

Hello all,

Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements in 
the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those checkboxes 
are inaccessible with VO.

However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows you 
to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using the 
mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite close, so 
only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right requires around 
ten moves right.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: [Mac-access]: Creating a rsume in pages?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Matthew,

In Pages, always make sure that Quick Nav is off.

Interact with the various text areas and navigate just with the arrow keys. The 
placeholder text should be automatically highlighted as you navigate to it and 
will disappear as soon as you start typing.

If ever you hear a wooshing sound and VoiceOver announces that you’ve moved 
something, do the opposite of what you did, move left if you move right, etc. 
Then, press Return followed by Cmd-z. This isn’t a VoiceOver bug, it’s a 
general one, but a nuisance nonetheless.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:01, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,  Are you saying I should interact with it and use down arrow or should I 
> just turn off quick nav and naviggate that  way?  Just want to be sure I am 
> doing things rite.  Thanks.  I will try to play with this a little more.  It 
> is certainly very confusing.  
> 
> Matthew

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Re: [Mac-access]: Creating a rsume in pages?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  Are you saying I should interact with it and use down arrow or should I 
just turn off quick nav and naviggate that  way?  Just want to be sure I am 
doing things rite.  Thanks.  I will try to play with this a little more.  It is 
certainly very confusing.  

Matthew


> On Nov 28, 2014, at 3:11 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Matthew,
> 
> The text that is not in English is placeholder text in a form of Latin. Never 
> navigate using Quick Nav in Pages as things will not behave correctly.
> 
> You should interact with the document and navigate using the arrow keys. You 
> should then find that the placeholder text is highlighted and will disappear 
> as soon as you start typing.
> 
> The placeholder text provides the correct text attributes for that section of 
> your document and these will be retained when you replace it.
> 
> If you read the text carefully, you should be able to determine what kind of 
> text should replace it. So, you should recognise where your name should go, 
> where your address should go, and so on.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 01:02, matthew dyer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I am wanting to create a resume  using pages and have notes something and 
>> was wondering if anyone here is seeing this?  
>> 
>> I select the templet  that I need, but in looking at it and what not It 
>> looks as if the text in the sample teplet  is not in english.  Any ideas on 
>> how to fix this or get around this.  I need to get this done before monday.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Creating a rsume in pages?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Matthew,

The text that is not in English is placeholder text in a form of Latin. Never 
navigate using Quick Nav in Pages as things will not behave correctly.

You should interact with the document and navigate using the arrow keys. You 
should then find that the placeholder text is highlighted and will disappear as 
soon as you start typing.

The placeholder text provides the correct text attributes for that section of 
your document and these will be retained when you replace it.

If you read the text carefully, you should be able to determine what kind of 
text should replace it. So, you should recognise where your name should go, 
where your address should go, and so on.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Nov 2014, at 01:02, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I am wanting to create a resume  using pages and have notes something and was 
> wondering if anyone here is seeing this?  
> 
> I select the templet  that I need, but in looking at it and what not It looks 
> as if the text in the sample teplet  is not in english.  Any ideas on how to 
> fix this or get around this.  I need to get this done before monday.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
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[Mac-access]: Creating a rsume in pages?

[matthew dyer]

Hi all.

I am wanting to create a resume  using pages and have notes something and was 
wondering if anyone here is seeing this?  

I select the templet  that I need, but in looking at it and what not It looks 
as if the text in the sample teplet  is not in english.  Any ideas on how to 
fix this or get around this.  I need to get this done before monday.

Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

There were two links at the end of the article you needed to press. Read it 
again closely. One was for the installation instructions, and the other was for 
the app files themselves, though I do recall the link was worded a bit funny. 
But basically that second link after the installation instructions was the one 
with the app itself.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have read the information but did not find a link to download the app



> On 21 Nov 2014, at 03:51, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anne, I'll check it out. Sounds fantastic!
> 
>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 4:32 am, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Nick,
>> 
>> Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
>> <http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
>> <http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/>>
>> 
>> This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but 
>> it does work for renaming tables.
>> 
>> I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
>> developer recommends.
>> 
>> Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
>> then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right 
>> place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, 
>> VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me.
>> 
>> Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
>>> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables 
>>> can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that 
>>> difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then 
>>> after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, 
>>> but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at 
>>> least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

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Thanks, Anne, I'll check it out. Sounds fantastic!

> On 9 Nov 2014, at 4:32 am, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Nick,
> 
> Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
> <http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
> <http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/>>
> 
> This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but 
> it does work for renaming tables.
> 
> I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
> developer recommends.
> 
> Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
> then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right 
> place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, 
> VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me.
> 
> Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
>> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables 
>> can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that 
>> difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then 
>> after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, 
>> but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least 
>> make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

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Hello Nick,

Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
<http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ 
<http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/>>

This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but it 
does work for renaming tables.

I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
developer recommends.

Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right place. 
You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, VO-Shift-Space 3 
times didn’t work for me.

Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.

Cheers,

Anne
 

> On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
> still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
> enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
> minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
> doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as 
> easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'm beginning to suspect something else in my system is corrupted. as for me my 
foot notes, end notes do not read at all. and they did under mavericks. I'm 
guessing at least for me a clean install is needed. bleh! They do show up 
according to my prof and they are correct.  so for now I'll just take his word 
on it and trust him. He is after all saying I'm doing ok.

Take care.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
> still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
> enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

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Hi Phil,

That’s right. I’m not sure they mention it in the tutorial but it’s possible to 
move the various sections around in the binder (that is, the sidebar which 
lists your various sections and sub-sections) using only the keyboard. Using 
the arrow keys together with command and control to be exact. This is one of my 
favourite features. The outline view is also a good one for VoiceOver.

My other favourite feature is that you can link to other sections within your 
Scrivener document. So you can cross reference another section of your paper, 
and if you later change the name of those sections, the corresponding 
references will update accordingly.

AS for tables, I haven’t tried them. I use Scrivener just for researching, 
making notes, organising text and writing my first draft. I use Pages and or 
Numbers for formatting, page layout and creating tables etc. I actually suspect 
that tables won’t work so well in Scrivener. But I have Numbers for that anyway.

for others that asked, its about $35 US I think. There’s often discounts on 
MacUpdate.com. They also offer a pretty generous demo version from their 
website.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

How much is it then?
- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: "Mac Access iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages


Nick,

I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. 
And, it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO 
friendly apps that are all too infrequent.
Unfortunately, I just don’t need that kind of power for my little writing 
projects and can’t justify the cost. BTW: how well does it handle tables? I’ll 
bet it’s great there too.
Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few 
Mac apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word 
processing.



On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I 
turned off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over 
and moved the suction successfully.


Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
 wrote:


Hi Sarah,

Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. 
I know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or 
two at a time.


That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s 
designed for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or 
any long writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring 
documents works really well with VoiceOver.


Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you 
want. Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you 
should definitely check it out for your next writing project.


On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this 
neatly as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a 
voice over bug  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave 
since written to apple about this wiht no results.


I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
out my hair.


I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!

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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah as stated I got it to work. I just had to count lines. It worked like a 
charm and the section now looks beautiful. As you all can see, I'm very 
patient. lol!  and I did it all with out the use  of voice over and sighted 
help which I guess is a good thing. lol!
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Nick,
> 
> I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
> scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
> Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. 
> And, it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO 
> friendly apps that are all too infrequent.
> Unfortunately, I just don’t need that kind of power for my little writing 
> projects and can’t justify the cost. BTW: how well does it handle tables? 
> I’ll bet it’s great there too.
> Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
> That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few Mac 
> apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word processing.
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I 
>> turned off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over 
>> and moved the suction successfully.
>> 
>> Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
>>> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at 
>>> a time.
>>> 
>>> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s 
>>> designed for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any 
>>> long writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents 
>>> works really well with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you 
>>> want. Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you 
>>> should definitely check it out for your next writing project.
>>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
>>> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
>>> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over 
>>> bug  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written 
>>> to apple about this wiht no results.
>>> 
>>> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
>>> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
>>> out my hair. 
>>> 
>>> I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!
>>> 
>>> Take care. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Oh nice. How do you rename a table/ I tried a control click but did not see, 
unless I missed it, a rename function.

On the subject of foot notes I hope that recording helped. I can see them in 
the document but they don't show up as numbers, they sho up as nothing as you 
can see.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Nick,
> 
> The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
> tested it. You can still rename tables, too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Nick,

The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
tested it. You can still rename tables, too.

Cheers,

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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Phil Halton]

Nick,

I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. And, 
it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO friendly apps 
that are all too infrequent.
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bet it’s great there too.
Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few Mac 
apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word processing.
 

On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I turned 
> off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over and moved 
> the suction successfully.
> 
> Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sarah,
>> 
>> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
>> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at 
>> a time.
>> 
>> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
>> for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any long 
>> writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents works 
>> really well with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
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>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
>> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
>> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug 
>>  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to 
>> apple about this wiht no results.
>> 
>> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
>> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
>> out my hair. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I turned 
off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over and moved 
the suction successfully.

Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at a 
> time.
> 
> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
> for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any long 
> writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents works 
> really well with VoiceOver.
> 
> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
> Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you should 
> definitely check it out for your next writing project.
> 
> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug  
> as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to 
> apple about this wiht no results.
> 
> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling out 
> my hair. 
> 
> I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!
> 
> Take care. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

This was with the old version before this one to.  Incerting end notes is 
actualy quite easy, but I just convert mine aftrwords.

The recording of the bug is here.

http://audioboom.com/boos/2629826 <http://audioboom.com/boos/2629826>

This is an odd one.
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> VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way 
> to insert an endnote.
> 
> I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an 
> update is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated 
> version, Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes.
> 
> What version of Pages are you running, Sarah?
> 
> I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5" mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way to 
insert an endnote.

I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an update 
is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated version, 
Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes.

What version of Pages are you running, Sarah?

I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5" mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

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Hi Sarah,

Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at a 
time.

That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
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well with VoiceOver.

Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you should 
definitely check it out for your next writing project.

On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly as 
the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug  as I 
selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to apple 
about this wiht no results.

I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling out 
my hair. 

I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!

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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hmm. I reinstalled pages and I left and right arrow and I hear  my sentence,, 
the parenthetical citation then a space then nothing which is my end note. This 
is odd. I think the problem for me has always been there and I do have my 
verbosity set the same as it was set in mavericks. This is an odd one that I 
don't know how to work around as I want to keep track of my end notes. I 
believe I still have my end notes as numbers. I did when I last checked a few 
days ago.

This is strange indeed.
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sarah,
> 
> I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 "link Footnote 2”. 
> Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the 
> next link command doesn’t work.
> 
> I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> .
> 
>> On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:17, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.
>> 
>> 1. Launch pages
>> 2. Start a new document
>> 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
>> 4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear 
>> what I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a 
>> thing when coming across them. 
>> 
>> If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.
>> 
>> I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

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Hello Sarah,

I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 "link Footnote 2”. 
Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the 
next link command doesn’t work.

I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also.

Cheers,

Anne
.

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> Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.
> 
> 1. Launch pages
> 2. Start a new document
> 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
> 4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what 
> I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing 
> when coming across them. 
> 
> If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.
> 
> I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)
> 
> Thanks.
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[Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.

1. Launch pages
2. Start a new document
3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what I 
like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing when 
coming across them. 

If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.

I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)

Thanks.
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Re: [Mac-access]: work around for the voice over selection bug in pages?

[Sarah k Alawami]

Oh growl!  Yeah i did email apple about this and they keep saying they will 
look in to it, but I'm guessing not enough of us are emailing apple regarding 
this bug.  or even calling them on it. 

Take care and be blessed.  If anyone else has a work around of any kind besides 
turning off voice over and guessing how many lines I select then I'd love to 
hear this. I'd love to get this 2 page block moved up so I can continue with 
the flow of this not so wonderful magnum opus. 

Take care
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Sarah,
> 
> That workaround was for TextEdit, not Pages. I have absolutely no idea how to 
> select large chunks of text in Pages. I tried everything I could think of 
> this morning with no success.
> 
> Sorry not to be of help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 21:04, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all.  I have 1 last pages question. I believe the work around that 
>> Ann posted was to fit to window or something for the voice over selecting 
>> bug. I do have that set in zoom but it does not work. I tried to find rap to 
>> window in the arrange tools but that area is totally not accessible. Nothing 
>> is labeled, radio buttons that I don't know what they do are not selectable 
>> for lack of a better term, nothing seems to work, plus most of the section 
>> even if you select all is grayed out. I just as of an hour ago emailed apple 
>> about this and gave them a screen cast of what happens.  Over all to me this 
>> new version is a mess to work with. and I'm seeing this in the apple forums 
>> as well. At least my end notes still work though according to my prof.
>> 
>> Anyway if someone can please remind me of what the work around was/is for 
>> the voice over selection bug I'd love to hear it.
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Re: [Mac-access]: work around for the voice over selection bug in pages?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sarah,

That workaround was for TextEdit, not Pages. I have absolutely no idea how to 
select large chunks of text in Pages. I tried everything I could think of this 
morning with no success.

Sorry not to be of help.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Nov 2014, at 21:04, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all.  I have 1 last pages question. I believe the work around that 
> Ann posted was to fit to window or something for the voice over selecting 
> bug. I do have that set in zoom but it does not work. I tried to find rap to 
> window in the arrange tools but that area is totally not accessible. Nothing 
> is labeled, radio buttons that I don't know what they do are not selectable 
> for lack of a better term, nothing seems to work, plus most of the section 
> even if you select all is grayed out. I just as of an hour ago emailed apple 
> about this and gave them a screen cast of what happens.  Over all to me this 
> new version is a mess to work with. and I'm seeing this in the apple forums 
> as well. At least my end notes still work though according to my prof.
> 
> Anyway if someone can please remind me of what the work around was/is for the 
> voice over selection bug I'd love to hear it.

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[Mac-access]: work around for the voice over selection bug in pages?

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello to all.  I have 1 last pages question. I believe the work around that Ann 
posted was to fit to window or something for the voice over selecting bug. I do 
have that set in zoom but it does not work. I tried to find rap to window in 
the arrange tools but that area is totally not accessible. Nothing is labeled, 
radio buttons that I don't know what they do are not selectable for lack of a 
better term, nothing seems to work, plus most of the section even if you select 
all is grayed out. I just as of an hour ago emailed apple about this and gave 
them a screen cast of what happens.  Over all to me this new version is a mess 
to work with. and I'm seeing this in the apple forums as well. At least my end 
notes still work though according to my prof.

Anyway if someone can please remind me of what the work around was/is for the 
voice over selection bug I'd love to hear it.

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[Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly as 
the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug  as I 
selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to apple 
about this wiht no results.

I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling out 
my hair. 

I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!

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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

[Sarah k Alawami]

I think I got it to work. I put a page brake then went to the section part of 
the inspector and created  new section at that page. . I then created a page 
brake and section at the part I wanted kept, showed page thumb nales, hit 
delete on any of the pages in the range I wanted gone, which was the section 
from page 15 to what ever and got rid of all of it.  That seems to have worked. 
 We'll see.
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> OK, you’re inserting a section and not a section break. By default, that 
> means adding a section at the end of the document. If you insert a section 
> break instead, you can then redefine the part of the document that comes 
> after the section break.
> 
> I think you must have created that short cut yourself at some time, as it 
> isn’t in my version of Pages.
> 
> Also, when creating a template, I always save it first to a folder in my 
> Documents folder so that I can put it on another computer or share it with 
> someone else. Of course, I have to add it to my templates before I can use 
> it, but at least that way it isn’t hidden from me.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 18:16, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> I tried  the insert menu as well. but the section always went to the end  of 
>> the document. This has been an issue under mavericks as well and I'm up to 
>> date. I'm also having the can't select multiple pages issue. I think I might 
>> try a reinstall hopeing I won't loose my 1 templet I made.  and the function 
>> is still there it says
>> 
>> insert section, cmd shift enter.
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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

[Sarah k Alawami]

Ok. I'm drawing a blank. and no I did not put that short cut there, at least I 
don't remember putting it  there.  Lol.

so how do I add  a section to  that place to start a new section so I can 
remove that section if that makes sence?  If I recall it's in the format part 
of the enspector. I can't continue with my document until this little bugger is 
gone.  lol!

Take care and be blessed.
> On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> OK, you’re inserting a section and not a section break. By default, that 
> means adding a section at the end of the document. If you insert a section 
> break instead, you can then redefine the part of the document that comes 
> after the section break.
> 
> I think you must have created that short cut yourself at some time, as it 
> isn’t in my version of Pages.
> 
> Also, when creating a template, I always save it first to a folder in my 
> Documents folder so that I can put it on another computer or share it with 
> someone else. Of course, I have to add it to my templates before I can use 
> it, but at least that way it isn’t hidden from me.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 18:16, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> I tried  the insert menu as well. but the section always went to the end  of 
>> the document. This has been an issue under mavericks as well and I'm up to 
>> date. I'm also having the can't select multiple pages issue. I think I might 
>> try a reinstall hopeing I won't loose my 1 templet I made.  and the function 
>> is still there it says
>> 
>> insert section, cmd shift enter.
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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

[Anne Robertson]

OK, you’re inserting a section and not a section break. By default, that means 
adding a section at the end of the document. If you insert a section break 
instead, you can then redefine the part of the document that comes after the 
section break.

I think you must have created that short cut yourself at some time, as it isn’t 
in my version of Pages.

Also, when creating a template, I always save it first to a folder in my 
Documents folder so that I can put it on another computer or share it with 
someone else. Of course, I have to add it to my templates before I can use it, 
but at least that way it isn’t hidden from me.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 3 Nov 2014, at 18:16, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I tried  the insert menu as well. but the section always went to the end  of 
> the document. This has been an issue under mavericks as well and I'm up to 
> date. I'm also having the can't select multiple pages issue. I think I might 
> try a reinstall hopeing I won't loose my 1 templet I made.  and the function 
> is still there it says
> 
> insert section, cmd shift enter.

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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

[Sarah k Alawami]

Ok, I did a recording this not so lovely morning of what happens. I went to the 
page where I wanted, at this case about 2 lines above page 15 and went to 
incert and added a section. It added at page 22, not at page 15. 

As stated it happenes often at page 31 where it ends.

https://audioboom.com/boos/2617667-pages-issue-adding-a-section-at-the-desired-place


Hope  this helps. 


> On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> If you’re using Yosemite and the latest Pages, VO misreports a section break 
> as a page break. There is no short cut for section break so you have to do it 
> from the Insert menu. Also, Enter is not Return. The short cut for page break 
> is Cmd-Enter which is Cmd-FN-Return on a laptop keyboard.
> 
> When I tested this problem I was able to insert a section break at the 
> desired location, so I don’t know what’s happening for you.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 03:57, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all. I'm trying to add a section brake in a section I want to 
>> remove, how ever, it is adding it at the end of the document. I have tried 
>> everything, routing then pushing cmd shift enter, pushing cmd shift enter, 
>> it adds it to the end of  the document always. I can't even cut and paste 
>> the brake so I can remove about 10 pages of stuff from this document I 
>> messed up on. Any help? I need to get this done yesterday and I'm about to 
>> pull what's left out of my hair out. lol! I  also wrote to the apple 
>> community so we'll see what they say.
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

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I tried  the insert menu as well. but the section always went to the end  of 
the document. This has been an issue under mavericks as well and I'm up to 
date. I'm also having the can't select multiple pages issue. I think I might 
try a reinstall hopeing I won't loose my 1 templet I made.  and the function is 
still there it says

insert section, cmd shift enter.

I looked. lol!
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Re: [Mac-access]: a quick pages question

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If you’re using Yosemite and the latest Pages, VO misreports a section break as 
a page break. There is no short cut for section break so you have to do it from 
the Insert menu. Also, Enter is not Return. The short cut for page break is 
Cmd-Enter which is Cmd-FN-Return on a laptop keyboard.

When I tested this problem I was able to insert a section break at the desired 
location, so I don’t know what’s happening for you.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 3 Nov 2014, at 03:57, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all. I'm trying to add a section brake in a section I want to 
> remove, how ever, it is adding it at the end of the document. I have tried 
> everything, routing then pushing cmd shift enter, pushing cmd shift enter, it 
> adds it to the end of  the document always. I can't even cut and paste the 
> brake so I can remove about 10 pages of stuff from this document I messed up 
> on. Any help? I need to get this done yesterday and I'm about to pull what's 
> left out of my hair out. lol! I  also wrote to the apple community so we'll 
> see what they say.
> 
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[Mac-access]: a quick pages question

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello to all. I'm trying to add a section brake in a section I want to remove, 
how ever, it is adding it at the end of the document. I have tried everything, 
routing then pushing cmd shift enter, pushing cmd shift enter, it adds it to 
the end of  the document always. I can't even cut and paste the brake so I can 
remove about 10 pages of stuff from this document I messed up on. Any help? I 
need to get this done yesterday and I'm about to pull what's left out of my 
hair out. lol! I  also wrote to the apple community so we'll see what they say.

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Re: Pages 5.5: access to paragraph styles menus lost again

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello.
I will also make a report on this. Hope they fix it. I don’t know why in the 
world it came back as it was … that is a pity, I hope they fix it.
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> El 19/10/2014, a las 20:36, Anne Robertson  escribió:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I’ve installed Yosemite as I heard good things about it, and I got the iWork 
> updates. Unfortunately, in Pages, the menu buttons to the right of the 
> Paragraph styles is no longer accessible using VoiceOver. We now have to use 
> the mouse or Mouse keys to get to it and click it. Fortunately, no counting 
> is required as the word “Menu” is spoken if you have “Speak item under mouse” 
> set with a delay of zero.
> 
> I’ve reported this regression to Apple.
> 
> I’ve also reported the fact that the VO-F4-F4 problem hasn’t been fixed yet. 
> What’s more, they’ve taken the command out of the commands menus, but VO-k 
> still recognises it and it still reports its fictitious coordinates.
> 
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Pages 5.5: access to paragraph styles menus lost again

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

I’ve installed Yosemite as I heard good things about it, and I got the iWork 
updates. Unfortunately, in Pages, the menu buttons to the right of the 
Paragraph styles is no longer accessible using VoiceOver. We now have to use 
the mouse or Mouse keys to get to it and click it. Fortunately, no counting is 
required as the word “Menu” is spoken if you have “Speak item under mouse” set 
with a delay of zero.

I’ve reported this regression to Apple.

I’ve also reported the fact that the VO-F4-F4 problem hasn’t been fixed yet. 
What’s more, they’ve taken the command out of the commands menus, but VO-k 
still recognises it and it still reports its fictitious coordinates.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Another question about pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'm not sure. I'm not all that used to what it can do yet.  I guess a google or 
what ever might work, maybe check apple's support page. 

good luck. and happy saturday.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Is there a manual for the iOS version too? 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> actually  it is in the espector under formatter. .  numbered pages is there 
>> as well. I'd google for the onine version of the pages manual and read all 
>> of it, or at least search for your items here  as apple did a wonderful job 
>> and this is how in about 30 minutes I learned how to do the basic functions 
>> of pages. I even made myself some custom templets for use later.
>> 
>> go thorugh both of the sections of the enspector. you can toggle them off 
>> and on wiht the check boxes. In each of those is the radio buttons after the 
>> first one and the paragraph pop up  You will find everything you are looking 
>> for and more.
>> 
>> Tale care.
>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Marcos Rodrigues  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning all:
>>> 
>>> Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version 
>>> of the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.
>>> 
>>> Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between 
>>> lines (in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but 
>>> I can not find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the 
>>> document?
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> Marcos Rodrigues
>>> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Another question about pages

[Devin Prater]

Is there a manual for the iOS version too? 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 10, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> actually  it is in the espector under formatter. .  numbered pages is there 
> as well. I'd google for the onine version of the pages manual and read all of 
> it, or at least search for your items here  as apple did a wonderful job and 
> this is how in about 30 minutes I learned how to do the basic functions of 
> pages. I even made myself some custom templets for use later.
> 
> go thorugh both of the sections of the enspector. you can toggle them off and 
> on wiht the check boxes. In each of those is the radio buttons after the 
> first one and the paragraph pop up  You will find everything you are looking 
> for and more.
> 
> Tale care.
>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Marcos Rodrigues  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning all:
>> 
>> Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version of 
>> the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.
>> 
>> Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between lines 
>> (in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but I can 
>> not find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the document?
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Marcos Rodrigues
>> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Another question about pages

[Marcos Rodrigues]

thanks for the respomses.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Marcos,

To adjust line spacing, go to the Formatter and select Style. You’ll find what 
you need in the scroll area.

As for adding a page number, decide where you want your page number to be then 
interact with that area. I tried with the right-hand side of the header. Once 
in the right place, go to the Insert menu and choose Page number. After this, 
the page numbers will be inserted automatically in the same place.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 10 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:
> 
> Good morning all:
> 
> Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version of 
> the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.
> 
> Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between lines 
> (in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but I can 
> not find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the document?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Another question about pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

actually  it is in the espector under formatter. .  numbered pages is there as 
well. I'd google for the onine version of the pages manual and read all of it, 
or at least search for your items here  as apple did a wonderful job and this 
is how in about 30 minutes I learned how to do the basic functions of pages. I 
even made myself some custom templets for use later.

go thorugh both of the sections of the enspector. you can toggle them off and 
on wiht the check boxes. In each of those is the radio buttons after the first 
one and the paragraph pop up  You will find everything you are looking for and 
more.

Tale care.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

> Good morning all:
> 
> Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version of 
> the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.
> 
> Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between lines 
> (in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but I can 
> not find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the document?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Another question about pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Marcos,

To adjust line spacing, go to the Formatter and select Style. You’ll find what 
you need in the scroll area.

As for adding a page number, decide where you want your page number to be then 
interact with that area. I tried with the right-hand side of the header. Once 
in the right place, go to the Insert menu and choose Page number. After this, 
the page numbers will be inserted automatically in the same place.

Cheers,

Anne



On 10 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

> Good morning all:
> 
> Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version of 
> the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.
> 
> Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between lines 
> (in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but I can 
> not find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the document?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
> 
> 
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Another question about pages

[Marcos Rodrigues]

Good morning all:

Firstly, I’d like to let you know that I was able to find the old version of 
the document that I was looking for and asked here how to proceed.

Now, I have a couple of questions: how do I put a double space between lines 
(in previous versions of pages, this option was on the inspector but I can not 
find it there anymore). And how do I put page numbers on the document?

Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigue...@hotmail.com



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Re: Going back to an old version of a pages document

[Sarah k Alawami]

If you have a back up in your  time machine drive, use that one as I'm not sure 
how old of a subversion you could go in pages.
On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

> that is what I was doing but it is not working, I just found the last version 
> and I need a previous one.
> 
> Any help will be greatly apreciated.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:30 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I do not routinely use Pages but opening it up and going to the File Menu 
> there are the standard versions commands similar to that that held in 
> TextEdit. That is in the file menu you have the option to revert to previous 
> versions of the document.
> David Griffith
>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 22:39, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> There's probably a better way of doing this but I just go to my time machine 
>> drive  and copy the older pages document to the original source.
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon guys:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone explain me how to go back to an old version of a pages’ document 
>>> that I was working on?
>>> 
>>> Regards.
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>>> 
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Re: Going back to an old version of a pages document

[Marcos Rodrigues]

that is what I was doing but it is not working, I just found the last version 
and I need a previous one.

Any help will be greatly apreciated.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:30 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

I do not routinely use Pages but opening it up and going to the File Menu there 
are the standard versions commands similar to that that held in TextEdit. That 
is in the file menu you have the option to revert to previous versions of the 
document.
David Griffith
> On 9 Oct 2014, at 22:39, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> There's probably a better way of doing this but I just go to my time machine 
> drive  and copy the older pages document to the original source.
> 
> Take care.
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon guys:
>> 
>> Can anyone explain me how to go back to an old version of a pages’ document 
>> that I was working on?
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Marcos Rodrigues
>> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Going back to an old version of a pages document

[David Griffith]

I do not routinely use Pages but opening it up and going to the File Menu there 
are the standard versions commands similar to that that held in TextEdit. That 
is in the file menu you have the option to revert to previous versions of the 
document.
David Griffith
On 9 Oct 2014, at 22:39, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> There's probably a better way of doing this but I just go to my time machine 
> drive  and copy the older pages document to the original source.
> 
> Take care.
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:
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>> Good afternoon guys:
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>> Can anyone explain me how to go back to an old version of a pages’ document 
>> that I was working on?
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Re: Going back to an old version of a pages document

[Sarah k Alawami]

There's probably a better way of doing this but I just go to my time machine 
drive  and copy the older pages document to the original source.

Take care.
On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

> Good afternoon guys:
> 
> Can anyone explain me how to go back to an old version of a pages’ document 
> that I was working on?
> 
> Regards.
> Marcos Rodrigues
> mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
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