Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?

2009-08-24 Thread hank smith

how do you control your sattle lite box from your tuner?

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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?



The EyeTV software or the remote control which comes  with the tv tuner.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 21/08/2009, at 10.53, hank smith wrote:


 what does any one suggest that we can use from the tv tuner end to
 control it?
 Hank
 On Aug 21, 2009, at 12:23 AM, a radix wrote:


 Hello, well I was actually more thinking of watching tv when I am
 away at
 home. I too only have a digital settop box only, no tv.
 Greetings, Anouk,
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 From: John G. Heim jh...@math.wisc.edu
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 AM
 Subject: Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?



 I can't find the beginning of this thread and I can't give any info
 about
 watching TV on the Mac but for $5 you can buy a cable that allows
 you to
 connect a VCR, DVD player, or a digital converter box to the sound
 input
 jack of your Mac. I don't have a TV any more. I just have a
 converter box.
 But I don't want a picture, just sound.









 




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Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)

2009-08-24 Thread Esther
Hello,

I went and found my install discs and inserted them to check the  
instructions.  I think what you found is simply that the Apple menu  
(the first menu on the menu bar when you use VO-M) is dimmed.  This is  
because all those operations reference the system loaded on the hard  
drive, and you are by-passing the hard drive to boot off the install  
disc.  If you arrow across to any of the other menu options on the  
menu bar and specifically, if you press u or navigate with your  
arrow keys to the Utilities menu on the menu bar and arrow down, none  
of the entries should be dimmed.  If you arrow down to the Reset  
Password option of the Utilities menu I think you will be fine.
Just remember that the password you want to reset is for your friend  
-- if he has Administrator privileges.  Do not select System  
Administrator as the account for the password you want to reset.   
Also, don't worry or try to set anything about keychains.  Chances are  
that if your friend never knew his password that there are no  
keychains to worry about.

You can quit at any time with Command-Q, or by choosing the option to  
quit from the Installer menu on the menu bar.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther

Dr.Khalid wrote:

 Thanks for the instruction .

 I was able to choose English from the list of languages, then I  
 pressed continue. I then searched for utility which I couldn't  
 find . So I pressed VO-M , but all the options were dimmed . I  
 couldn't choose the system preference.. I then pressed continue, and  
 I got the options, to update OS x or to erase and install, or  
 archive and install...

 I didn't want to mess around , so I didn't choose any of these  
 options .. How can I get to utility to change the password ? Any  
 help is appreciated ..

 TIA
 Khalid
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 From: Esther
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)


 Hi,

 Daniel answered your question that the c key was the letter c.   
 There are various keys that you can hold down while the Mac is  
 booting that determine the boot mode.  Most of these stand for modes  
 that are easy to remember. C stands for Boot from inserted CD or  
 DVD; the Shift key  stands for Boot into Safe mode (a restricted  
 access mode where you only bring up a subset of the operating system  
 where audio and network connections are disabled -- this mode is not  
 accessible, but certain problems can be fixed by just booting into  
 this mode (without logging in), and then rebooting normally; T  
 stands for boot into  target disk mode (when you connect to another  
 Mac via a Firewire cable and use its disk to boot the second machine  
 -- this no longer works with the newest MacBooks that have no  
 Firewire ports; D' stands for boot from the hard drive, etc.

 For the formal instructions see this Apple help article:

 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/11627.html
 (Mac OS X 10.5 Help: If you forget your Administrator Password)

 This describes the boot sequence and how to navigate to reset the  
 password.   Just make sure to start up VoiceOver as your first  
 action after the Mac boots from the install disc (while you hold  
 down the C key.  You may need to use Fn-Command-F5 on the laptop  
 instead of Command-F5.  (I don't remember, so you may have to try  
 both to start up VoiceOver).  Then select your language, etc.

 HTH

 Cheers,

 Esther

 Dr.Khalid wrote:
 


 


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Re: Blind Ecto users, adding categories and tags to a post, how?

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Yes, but Marsedit can't do static pages, which for me is a  
showstopper, plus there's another interesting quirk in that program.  
You can add categories, right, but if you don't want some of the  
categories that you add in the post where you add the categories, the  
unchecked categories vanish from the list. Don't know why it is like  
that, only that it is... or is there some place where you can add  
categories and they don't disappear?
/Krister

23 aug 2009 kl. 22.03 skrev Maxwell Ivey Jr.:


 Hello;  ecto used to confuse the heck out of me too.  I had a devil of
 a time setting it up.  I tried the demo of mars edit loved it so much
 i switched.  Much easier than ecto for me.  good luck, Max
 On Aug 23, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi there.
 I have put up a wordpress blog and am using, or planning to use both
 Marsedit and Ecto for posting to it. When i try to add new categories
 in Ecto i get sorta confused, because there seems to be one edit box
 and two check boxes, one labeled categories and one labeled tags. Ok,
 i think to myself and check the one called categories and try  
 adding a
 new category, but no matter what i do, i wind up adding new tags, not
 categories. What am i missing?
 /Krister




 


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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hello,
Funny you should mention that program. I checked it out and found that  
the only view in which it worked was list view i think. In other views  
it was jampacked with unknowns that VO couldn't act upon. It's  
possible there has been an update in the month or two since i tested  
it on my system, and that would be nice. I however dropped the program  
since i think that if a program forces me to use one view and one view  
alone, it's not accessible because it doesn't let me have the freedom  
of choise that sighted people have.
/Krister


23 aug 2009 kl. 22.16 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/


 


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terminal software: word to txt and pdf to html convertor

2009-08-24 Thread william

Hi all,
Before my mactime , I had worked with linux and I made different bash- 
scripts.
I had made also a script to convert multiple msword files and pdf- 
files to text.
I used the consoleprograms wvText (for word) and pdftohtml an lynx  
(browser onder console) to convert the htmlfile to text.

So, this are bash-programs.
No, I would like to install this , or similar programs, to run my  
script.

Are there tutorials and sources where to find such programs and ways  
to install it for the console?
As I see, (gnu)make is not available by default so I can't compile the  
linux-sources of this programs (if this should work).

any tips are very welcome
thanx in advance,
best regards,
William


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Logging into Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

I was trying to access my gmail account via the web at http://www.gmail.com 
. Although my password seems to work fine for sending e-mail from  
Apple Mail, it doesn't seem to allow incoming mail. So, my plan was to  
access the website and see if Mail was actually appearing on the site,  
but it won't let me login with the password I have been using for a  
while. Of course the other problem is I had to get help with the  
damned visual verification since the spoken bit didn't work as  
expected. So, is there another way to reset a password without needing  
the visual verification crap? I did get to a reset page and oddly  
enough after my wife typed in the letters required, it was to send me  
an e-mail on how to reset the password, but incredibly, it never  
showed up. My entire goal was to setup imap instead of pop and maybe I  
should have just left well enough alone. :)
Any thoughts?

tnx,

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Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Hofstader

I use smart playlists for most of my music (over 7000 songs) and think  
they are tremendously interesting.  First off, before you set rules,  
assuming you will have more than one, it is usually best if you switch  
the combo box that says All to Any as that will resolve a lot of  
contradictions.

Once you have your list of rules in place, you just name it and off  
you go.  For instance, I have one in which filters on Bruce  
Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, Lou Reed and a few others whom I  
feel work together.  With automatic updating, I was able to rip the  
latest Springsteen album and the playlist automatically contained the  
songs.

My quejstion is how to keep shuffle from grabbing items outside the  
current playlist?  This happens on my MacBook, iMac 24, Nano and  
iPhone whether I hit the button or shake the handheld devices.  Thus,  
I jumped from a movement in Brahms Fourth to a song by Eminem an  
experience that nearly knocked me out of my chair.

cdh
On Aug 23, 2009, at 11:45 AM, rayna424 wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I know I'm asking lots of iTunes/iPod questions, but I get the most
 useful information from ya'll, so I've just given up searches. I don't
 understand this smart playlist thing. I click create playlist and it
 asks me for all these guidlines, but no matter what I pick, it says
 something like, this will never work, haha. I'd love to just be able
 to click a button and have an interesting playlist created...does
 anyone have any tips?

 Thanks!
 Randi
 


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Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Ha! I sympathize, Chris!  I have very ecclectic taste in music, so  
frequently have this experience when using Shuffle.  If you find a way  
to keep it from happening, please do let me know.
Take care,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:


 I use smart playlists for most of my music (over 7000 songs) and think
 they are tremendously interesting.  First off, before you set rules,
 assuming you will have more than one, it is usually best if you switch
 the combo box that says All to Any as that will resolve a lot of
 contradictions.

 Once you have your list of rules in place, you just name it and off
 you go.  For instance, I have one in which filters on Bruce
 Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, Lou Reed and a few others whom I
 feel work together.  With automatic updating, I was able to rip the
 latest Springsteen album and the playlist automatically contained the
 songs.

 My quejstion is how to keep shuffle from grabbing items outside the
 current playlist?  This happens on my MacBook, iMac 24, Nano and
 iPhone whether I hit the button or shake the handheld devices.  Thus,
 I jumped from a movement in Brahms Fourth to a song by Eminem an
 experience that nearly knocked me out of my chair.

 cdh
 On Aug 23, 2009, at 11:45 AM, rayna424 wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 I know I'm asking lots of iTunes/iPod questions, but I get the most
 useful information from ya'll, so I've just given up searches. I  
 don't
 understand this smart playlist thing. I click create playlist and it
 asks me for all these guidlines, but no matter what I pick, it says
 something like, this will never work, haha. I'd love to just be able
 to click a button and have an interesting playlist created...does
 anyone have any tips?

 Thanks!
 Randi



 



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Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)

2009-08-24 Thread Kieren

 I was able to check the account setting, and it asked me to enter old
 password.
Ok so are there any other users listed in the accounts pane?
if so do any of them including your friends show the word Admin
under them?
if this is not the case then you are in for backing up your data and
reinstalling the system.
With the install DVD you can only change an existing users password
not create users or give them admin permissions.

 I noticed something strange though; under password, there is a field called
 password hint (or something of this sort) and the first name of my friend
 in lowercase was written.
maybe its a hint that it is their surname in lowercase?

 IF he didn't find the DVD, is there other way to update his Mac? i.e. can I
 download from apple website the updates directly, and install them in the
 machine. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
The short answer is NO.  This is not windows so without an
administrators
password you cannot install/remove most applications or any updates at
all.
If your friend has been doing this ask them how the have.
Alternatively if someone set up the system for them find out the
password from them.
you can always check which accounts have been setup by looking in the
/Users Folder on the root of the HD there will be all the accounts
listed as their short names which do not contain spaces and are all
lowercase.

Worse comes to worse. backup all their data then do an
Archive and Install with the original install dvd and DO NOT copy
their account when it asks you to but make a new one with admin
privileges and a standard one for regular use.
make the passwords easy to remember but hard to guess.

HTH

Kieren
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Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)

2009-08-24 Thread Kieren

 I'm not sure how to reset the password. I have the installer DVD  with me,
 but I'm not sure how to precede. Any help is appreciated ..

After the disc has booted and you are presented with the language
screen choose your preferred language and then when you get to the
start of the install go to the utilities menu and choose reset
password.
this will present you with a dialog asking for the system disk on
which you wish to change the users pw.
choose the hd of the mac not the install disk and you will be shown a
combo box with a list of users on that system.
choose the appropriate one and fill in the fields as stated and hit
the reset button (i think it is reset)

if all goes well you might now have admin privs

normally with a standard user you are presented with an empty password
dialog box but when logged in as an admin the short name
is already filled in.

HTH

Kieren
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audible.com question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Good morning all,

I'm wondering about moving my audible content over from my PC to my  
Mac.  Is it possible to just copy everything in my Audble downloads  
folder over to a location on  the Mac, or do I have to re-download  
everything?  If I can just copy it, to what location should I copy the  
files?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Logging into Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Thuy

Hi Scott. I use gmail and it works fine with the mail app on the
iphone through imap. You can get around the captcha problem with
solona.net. Once you're into your mail setings you will have to make
sure that imap is enabled. Also, I find that the 'basic html' view is
better and you can go straight to that with
mail.google.com/mail/h/
Hope this helps?

Cheers

Thuy


On 24/08/2009, Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net wrote:

 I was trying to access my gmail account via the web at http://www.gmail.com
 . Although my password seems to work fine for sending e-mail from
 Apple Mail, it doesn't seem to allow incoming mail. So, my plan was to
 access the website and see if Mail was actually appearing on the site,
 but it won't let me login with the password I have been using for a
 while. Of course the other problem is I had to get help with the
 damned visual verification since the spoken bit didn't work as
 expected. So, is there another way to reset a password without needing
 the visual verification crap? I did get to a reset page and oddly
 enough after my wife typed in the letters required, it was to send me
 an e-mail on how to reset the password, but incredibly, it never
 showed up. My entire goal was to setup imap instead of pop and maybe I
 should have just left well enough alone. :)
 Any thoughts?

 tnx,

 


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ILif 09

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

hi all how good is ILife 09?
I liked IWork especially pages, but how good is ILife itself


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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

I just placed my order for the family pack. Yippie!!
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:34 AM, James  Nash wrote:


 Oooh cool. Unfortunately, I am not going to be able to afford a new  
 Mac yet
 but i'll get one asap. Hope you're okay.


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 hi snow leopard is out on friday apple stores have confirmed it





 


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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Søren Jensen

Hi.

The application will be very accessible if you change to column view  
in the view menu.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 24/08/2009, at 10.34, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hello,
 Funny you should mention that program. I checked it out and found that
 the only view in which it worked was list view i think. In other views
 it was jampacked with unknowns that VO couldn't act upon. It's
 possible there has been an update in the month or two since i tested
 it on my system, and that would be nice. I however dropped the program
 since i think that if a program forces me to use one view and one view
 alone, it's not accessible because it doesn't let me have the freedom
 of choise that sighted people have.
 /Krister


 23 aug 2009 kl. 22.16 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which  
 is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application  
 have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of  
 just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/





 


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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Søren Jensen

No. I didn't got any busy messages, but that might be because I have 4  
gb ram in my machine.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 24/08/2009, at 03.46, VaShaun Jones wrote:


 Do you find that it says busy allot? THat is what it's doing for me.
 Other than that it seems like a powerful app.
 On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which  
 is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application  
 have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of  
 just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
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 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
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Re: Logging into Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

Thanks Thuy, I'll keep this for reference, but seems I got screwed  
here do to the account where they would have sent e-mail isn't what I  
typed in. Something is messed up, but well this will pass and all will  
be cleared up by tomorrow. :)
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Thuy wrote:


 Hi Scott. I use gmail and it works fine with the mail app on the
 iphone through imap. You can get around the captcha problem with
 solona.net. Once you're into your mail setings you will have to make
 sure that imap is enabled. Also, I find that the 'basic html' view is
 better and you can go straight to that with
 mail.google.com/mail/h/
 Hope this helps?

 Cheers

 Thuy


 On 24/08/2009, Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net wrote:

 I was trying to access my gmail account via the web at http://www.gmail.com
 . Although my password seems to work fine for sending e-mail from
 Apple Mail, it doesn't seem to allow incoming mail. So, my plan was  
 to
 access the website and see if Mail was actually appearing on the  
 site,
 but it won't let me login with the password I have been using for a
 while. Of course the other problem is I had to get help with the
 damned visual verification since the spoken bit didn't work as
 expected. So, is there another way to reset a password without  
 needing
 the visual verification crap? I did get to a reset page and oddly
 enough after my wife typed in the letters required, it was to send me
 an e-mail on how to reset the password, but incredibly, it never
 showed up. My entire goal was to setup imap instead of pop and  
 maybe I
 should have just left well enough alone. :)
 Any thoughts?

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[Mac-cessibility News] Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

2009-08-24 Thread Maccessibility

Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

After a couple of weeks, during which we saw the rumor mills heat up with
speculation of an August 28th release of Apple's latest version of their Mac OS
X operating system, the company issued a press release this morning, officially
announcing that date.
Snow Leopard builds on our most successful operating system ever and we’re
[...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/24/mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-shipping-on-28august2009/

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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Chantel Cuddemi

That! is! awesome!! I! want it! now
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:25 AM, william lomas wrote:


   hi snow leopard is out on friday apple stores have confirmed it


 


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Re: Skype problems Re: sorry gang, still stuck on the DMG problem

2009-08-24 Thread louie

What is the version of the new skype?
On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:


 Donna,

 I am getting that warning every-time I launch the new skype too.  I
 have tried clearing  a few things in my Library folder, but the
 message indicating that Skype is a newly downloaded program continues
 to appear. I will try a full install after deleting all tell tales
 from my old Skype later today.

 Does anybody else run the new Skype and have you encountered similar
 problems?

 Jon

 On Aug 23, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Thanks, Chantel.  As it stands right now, I deleted Skype and have  
 not
 restored it yet.  So, I'm getting this message even though skype is
 not
 supposed to even exist on my Mac.  Does that change anything?
 Thanks,
 Donna

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chantel  
 Cuddemi
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:17 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: sorry gang, still stuck on the DMG problem


 Well, first of all, you need to make sure that skype is sett to not
 log yoou in when you log into mac os ten.
 Then, you need to redownload the dmg file.
 On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hello all,

 Well, after more fussing, my problems persist.  When I start up my
 Mac, I see the message Core Services UI Agent, Skype was  
 downloaded
 from the intewrnet, do you want to Open?  I press cancel to try  
 and
 keep it from opening.  I have tried everything! I have now deleted
 Skype from the Applications folder, but I can't delete the dmg file
 from the downloads folder.  I have tried ejecting it according to
 Dan
 and Jim's directions, but Command E doesn't work, and the option to
 eject it shows up as dimmed in the menu.  I also cannot delete the
 alias for Skype that I created for my desktop.  Anyone have any
 other
 thoughts?  anyone know what Core Services UI Agent is?
 Thanks,
 Donna






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Re: Skype problems Re: sorry gang, still stuck on the DMG problem

2009-08-24 Thread Chantel Cuddemi

You are right, that is the version that is the latest version.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm using Skype 2.8.0.659. I don't know whether that's the new version
 or not; it's the one I downloaded about a month ago. It logs me in
 automatically when I start my Mac, which is what I want. I haven't had
 any problems with it thus far.

 Best,
 Anna


 


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Re: Skype problems Re: sorry gang, still stuck on the DMG problem

2009-08-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

OK, a bit more research and things are straight.

I am running the same version. I installed it as an admin user, but  
only ran it in my own account. Once I ran it once in the admin account  
the message indicating that this software was downloaded from the  
internet went away.

There are also accessable issues with the initial login screen, all  
fields are accessible via tabs, but the normal VO cursor movements  
don't work.
So: after installing.
  1. start the program as an admin user say OK to the question about  
running an internet downloaded application.
  2. accept the user agreement.
  3. Login screen appears. Hit tab until you reach the user name combo  
box and enter your skype login name.
  4. Hit tab until you hit the password field and enter your skype  
password.
  5. Hit tab until you find save password and enable the check box.
  6. click OK.
  7. Accept the request to use the keychain. (Skype uses your system  
keychain to save the password)
  8. Profile window comes up and fill in as you feel appropriate. (VO  
works great here)
  9. Go to contacts menu   and make sure you are viewing contact  
groups (the menu will say hide contact groups if you have it right).
10. Go back into contact menu and find the contact group submenu there  
is a presets sub-sub-menu where I recommend you click at least Online  
contacts These are checkboxes.

Best of skyping,
joncohnfairfax (skype name)
Jonahtan Cohn

On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm using Skype 2.8.0.659. I don't know whether that's the new version
 or not; it's the one I downloaded about a month ago. It logs me in
 automatically when I start my Mac, which is what I want. I haven't had
 any problems with it thus far.

 Best,
 Anna


 


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Re: How to Shuffle within Playlists [was Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it]

2009-08-24 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

The only thing I'd like to add to Esther's great post is that if you  
choose Shuffle Songs from the iPod's main menu or shake to shuffle,  
all songs on the iPod are shuffled, regardless of their playlist,  
unless you have set them not to be included when shuffling as Esther  
describes.

Best,
Anna



On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Esther wrote:


 Hi Chris,

 Shuffle playback uses whatever group you're in at the time you turn it
 on as its basis for shuffling. So in iTunes on your Mac, if you select
 your Music playlist in the sources table, turn on the file browser
 (Command-B), select a genre or artist, and press the Do Not Shuffle
 button (which describes the current setting) to turn on shuffling
 (where this becomes the Shuffle button), then start playing music
 (either by pressing the Play button or by starting from any of the
 tracks in the resulting songs table and pressing enter), iTunes will
 shuffle through all the songs in the songs table, playing each exactly
 once.  If you select a playlist, turn shuffle play on, and start
 playing from that playlist, then iTunes will only play tracks from
 that playlist (and will leave out any tracks where you have checked
 the box for Skip when shuffling on the Options pane if you edited
 the track with Get Info (Command-I)).  If you want iTunes to
 continuously shuffle through the playlist, press the No Repeat
 button (which describes current setting) to turn on repeat play (this
 now becomes the Repeat All Songs button) and start playing.  Chances
 are, you turned on shuffle play from your music playlist and never
 turned it off, which is why you're getting a mixture of Brahms and
 Eminem.

 On your Nano or iPhone, navigate to your playlist and then turn on the
 setting to shuffle songs before you start playing your playlist.
 Remember that these iPod/iPhone settings stick.  If you set your
 iPod or iPhone to shuffle songs, either from the Settings menu or
 while playing from a playlist, when you next go to play an Album
 you'll hear the tracks play in shuffled rather than sequential order.
 The shuffled setting (on the song level) applies to whatever group of
 music you're in, and only exempts tracks that were marked as Do not
 shuffle (such as Audiobook tracks, or any tracks where you checked
 this setting if you edited the Options tab in iTunes.)

 Cheers,

 Esther

 On Aug 24, 2009, Chris Hofstader wrote:

 My quejstion is how to keep shuffle from grabbing items outside the
 current playlist?  This happens on my MacBook, iMac 24, Nano and
 iPhone whether I hit the button or shake the handheld devices.  Thus,
 I jumped from a movement in Brahms Fourth to a song by Eminem an
 experience that nearly knocked me out of my chair.


 


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Re: audible.com question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the tip to download a book.  I had been to the Audible  
site, and seen that I didn't need to download any software, but wasn't  
sure what the next step was, as I figured I had to do something to  
authorize Audible on this computer.

I do have one question.  On my Windows machine, there was actually a  
folder called Audible Downloads.  There does not seem to be a  
counterpart on the Mac. So, I guess my question has two parts:

1.  Re the book I just downloaded, should I leave it in the downloads  
folder, or should I move it?  If I should move it, where should I move  
it to?

2.  To what folder should I copy the Audible files from my PC? ITunes  
Music?
Thanks,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Daniel Crone wrote:


 Just copying the audible files from your windows machine should work.
 Download at least one book from audible to your mac so you may
 authorize your Mac to play audible.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Good morning all,

 I'm wondering about moving my audible content over from my PC to my
 Mac.  Is it possible to just copy everything in my Audble downloads
 folder over to a location on  the Mac, or do I have to re-download
 everything?  If I can just copy it, to what location should I copy  
 the
 files?
 Thanks,
 Donna




 



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courier delivery?

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

hi a friend of mine, joe topp, has just with my help ordered  
snowleopard online.
He has opted to pay for the courier service does that mean if it is  
shipped on friday will he get saturday
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Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro

2009-08-24 Thread Søren Jensen

Hi Gene.

First of all, I recommend you to do the following:
1: Open up the preferences by pressing command comma.
2: Choose the general tab
3: Move the VO-cursor to the left for some weird reason, and find the  
playback settings. Set the If selection is empty to Play from  
insertion point. If you change this setting, your playhead will  
always follow your insertion point if you moves your insertion ppoint  
by pressing the left or right arrow keys.

If you wanna select a part of your audiofile, you can do the following:
1: Press the spacebar to start the playback.
2: Press the spacebar again to pause the playback when you have found  
the place where you wanna start your selection.
3: Now, you can choose to select in 3 different ways:
1: If you wanna select a few seconds, you can simply hold down the  
shift key, and then select by pressing the right arrow key. Please  
note that  the audio has to be stopped or paused to be able to select  
anything. You can always press the spacebar to hear how much you have  
selected.
2: You can place a marker at the playheads perfsition by pressing the  
p-key
3: Or you can press command y to move the insertion point to the  
playhead, and then press m to place a marker.
If you use step 2 or 3 to start your selection, you have to find the  
perfsition in the audiofile where you wanna end your selection. So  
start the playback again by pressing the spacebar, pause when you  
wanna end your selection and re-peed either step 2 or 3 to place a  
second marker.
Now you have placed two markers, so now you have to select the audio  
between these two markers you've placed. You can do that by pressing  
command left arrow if you have focussed on the last marker you've  
placed, or command right arrow, if you've focussed on the first marker  
you've placed. You can move between the markers by pressing option  
left and right arrow.
When you have made a selection, you can then move the left edge of  
your selection to the left or right by pressing a or s, or you can  
move the right edge of the selection by pressing d or f. You can also  
press e to hear what it sounds like if you delete the selected audio.

If you wanna enable the loop playback, you can do it in the following  
way:
1: Find the Loop playback with the VO-cursor, and check the checkbox  
by pressing VO spacebar.
2: Move back to the scroll-area, press VO command f5 to move the mouse  
to the VO-cursor and press VO shift spacebar to gain focus on the  
scroll area again.

I hope it explains how it works.

If someone wants to upload this guide to Lioncourt.com,  
ICanWorkThisThing.com or other websites which contains useful guides,  
you are welcome to check the guide for misspelled words and  
grammatical errors and upload the guide. Please let me know before you  
upload it.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 23/01/2009, at 21.23, Gene Richburg wrote:


 Hi yeah I gota say that I don't understand how you select something  
 either I
 read that quick start guide on icanwork this thing.com but it gets  
 kind of
 complecated trying to get the program to select something.  I have  
 tried
 setting the markers but that doesn't work and when I try to either  
 extend
 the selection either to the next or previous marker the e key still  
 isn't
 selecting what I thought I had selected.  So I tried sound studio  
 but am
 having a hard time finding any selecting commands in the manual.  Can
 someone try to explain how this works?
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro



 Hi Krister.

 I forgot to say that I don't find this extremely annoying because you
 can always press e to check what it sounds like if you delete the
 selected audio. What an awesome feature.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 23/08/2009, at 21.18, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 23 aug 2009 kl. 19.06 skrev Søren Jensen:

 I just wish it was possible to
 move the markers or selection while the audio is playing so you  
 could
 hear the changes you made.

 Exactly my centiments too. It would be much easier to precition edit
 if you could hear what you were doing while doing it.
 /Krister






 


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Re: Logging into Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

If you can get new email but nothing else works, then the Mac must  
know your password.  You can retreive that password as follows:
1. Open Keychain access from your utilities folder (command-shift-u)
2 Hit tab and enter pop.gmail.com into the search text field.
3. Hit tab a few times, and you should be in a table with just one  
item. The key for your pop account.
4. Hit command-i to view the key info.
5. Near the bottom is a view password checkbox.
6. You will probably be prompted for your keychain password. If you  
are reading these instructions, then 99% of the time this will be the  
same password as your login passowrd.

Now you should be able to view what your system things the password is.

Best of luck,

Jonathan Cohn
.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


 I was trying to access my gmail account via the web at http://www.gmail.com
 . Although my password seems to work fine for sending e-mail from
 Apple Mail, it doesn't seem to allow incoming mail. So, my plan was to
 access the website and see if Mail was actually appearing on the site,
 but it won't let me login with the password I have been using for a
 while. Of course the other problem is I had to get help with the
 damned visual verification since the spoken bit didn't work as
 expected. So, is there another way to reset a password without needing
 the visual verification crap? I did get to a reset page and oddly
 enough after my wife typed in the letters required, it was to send me
 an e-mail on how to reset the password, but incredibly, it never
 showed up. My entire goal was to setup imap instead of pop and maybe I
 should have just left well enough alone. :)
 Any thoughts?

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snowleopard student discount

2009-08-24 Thread Justin Harford

Hello all

Does anyone know if they will offer a student discount for snowleopard  
as they did with leopard?

Regards
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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi,
Yes, but then you don't have columns like size, date modified etc or  
am i wrong?
/Krister

24 aug 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi.

 The application will be very accessible if you change to column view
 in the view menu.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 24/08/2009, at 10.34, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hello,
 Funny you should mention that program. I checked it out and found  
 that
 the only view in which it worked was list view i think. In other  
 views
 it was jampacked with unknowns that VO couldn't act upon. It's
 possible there has been an update in the month or two since i tested
 it on my system, and that would be nice. I however dropped the  
 program
 since i think that if a program forces me to use one view and one  
 view
 alone, it's not accessible because it doesn't let me have the freedom
 of choise that sighted people have.
 /Krister


 23 aug 2009 kl. 22.16 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which
 is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application
 have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files  
 into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of
 just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where  
 all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has  
 some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I  
 don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
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Re: snowleopard student discount

2009-08-24 Thread Buddy Brannan

Umm. It's only $29 as it is. I expect any discount would be fairly  
negligible.
--
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



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 Hello all

 Does anyone know if they will offer a student discount for snowleopard
 as they did with leopard?

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Re: audible.com question

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel Crone

I just put my audible books in to a folder called audible books.
Then I import that folder in to my itunes.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hi Daniel,

 Thanks for the tip to download a book.  I had been to the Audible
 site, and seen that I didn't need to download any software, but wasn't
 sure what the next step was, as I figured I had to do something to
 authorize Audible on this computer.

 I do have one question.  On my Windows machine, there was actually a
 folder called Audible Downloads.  There does not seem to be a
 counterpart on the Mac. So, I guess my question has two parts:

 1.  Re the book I just downloaded, should I leave it in the downloads
 folder, or should I move it?  If I should move it, where should I move
 it to?

 2.  To what folder should I copy the Audible files from my PC? ITunes
 Music?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Daniel Crone wrote:


 Just copying the audible files from your windows machine should work.
 Download at least one book from audible to your mac so you may
 authorize your Mac to play audible.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Good morning all,

 I'm wondering about moving my audible content over from my PC to my
 Mac.  Is it possible to just copy everything in my Audble downloads
 folder over to a location on  the Mac, or do I have to re-download
 everything?  If I can just copy it, to what location should I copy
 the
 files?
 Thanks,
 Donna








 


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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

just buy it from apple direct it will be 29 dollars

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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

just wish i could use the touch pad features but ah well my macbook  
doesn't support it. I would ahve thought all macbooks since the first  
i phone would ahve had a touchpad

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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Koumanova Rostislava

hi guys ,
can i use this up only for cut and paste and then use my finder for  
all the other things?
and is it a paid app or free ?
i am just having tough time with the missing cut function.
rk

Il giorno 24/ago/09, alle ore 18:11, Krister Ekstrom ha scritto:


 Hi,
 Yes, but then you don't have columns like size, date modified etc or
 am i wrong?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi.

 The application will be very accessible if you change to column view
 in the view menu.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 24/08/2009, at 10.34, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hello,
 Funny you should mention that program. I checked it out and found
 that
 the only view in which it worked was list view i think. In other
 views
 it was jampacked with unknowns that VO couldn't act upon. It's
 possible there has been an update in the month or two since i tested
 it on my system, and that would be nice. I however dropped the
 program
 since i think that if a program forces me to use one view and one
 view
 alone, it's not accessible because it doesn't let me have the  
 freedom
 of choise that sighted people have.
 /Krister


 23 aug 2009 kl. 22.16 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which
 is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application
 have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files
 into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of
 just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where
 all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has
 some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun  
 of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here  
 before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I
 don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/











 


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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Søren Jensen

Hmm, no. I don't think so. But I assume you can just press command i  
to bring up the information window if you wanna check these  
informations.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 24/08/2009, at 18.11, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi,
 Yes, but then you don't have columns like size, date modified etc or
 am i wrong?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi.

 The application will be very accessible if you change to column view
 in the view menu.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 24/08/2009, at 10.34, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hello,
 Funny you should mention that program. I checked it out and found
 that
 the only view in which it worked was list view i think. In other
 views
 it was jampacked with unknowns that VO couldn't act upon. It's
 possible there has been an update in the month or two since i tested
 it on my system, and that would be nice. I however dropped the
 program
 since i think that if a program forces me to use one view and one
 view
 alone, it's not accessible because it doesn't let me have the  
 freedom
 of choise that sighted people have.
 /Krister


 23 aug 2009 kl. 22.16 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which
 is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application
 have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files
 into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of
 just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where
 all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has
 some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun  
 of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here  
 before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I
 don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/











 


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Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)

2009-08-24 Thread Esther
Hello,

To set your account so that you can log in without being prompted for  
a password, you need to make changes in the Accounts menu under System  
Preferences.

1. VO-M to the menu bar, arrow down in the Apple menu and press s y  
to go to System Preferences
2. In the Systems Preferences window, navigate to the Accounts menu  
button (using tab, VO-Right arrow or item chooser menu) and press the  
button (VO-Space)
3. In the Accounts window, interact and VO-Right arrow to the  
Accounts and Login Options list.
4. Interact with the Accounts and Login Options list and navigate to  
Login Options.
5. Stop interacting and VO-Down arrow to where you hear Click the  
lock to make changes.  You will need to unlock the screen using your  
Administrator password.
6. Press (VO-Space) on the lock, then type in your password in the  
dialog window that appears.
7. VO-Right arrow past Automatic login: and press (VO-Space) the pop  
up button to select the account you wish to enable.
8. A dialog window will appear prompting you fort the password to this  
account.  Type in the password and press enter.
9. At this point you could use item chooser menu to navigate to the  
lock, and press it (VO-Space) to prevent further changes.  However,  
you might first want to create another account to use for test  
purposes, or to log into if you somehow manage to disable the other  
account.  If so, navigate to the Add User button and press (VO- 
Space), then fill in the user name and password information and create  
the account, before locking the settings (VO-Space on the lock button).
10. Command-Q to quite the Accounts menu.

HTH.  By the way, are you a French speaker? (I don't usually hear the  
phrase: everything works cent pour cent; in English, this would be  
everything works 100 per cent).

Cheers,

Esther


Dr.Khalid wrote:

 Thanks Esther now everything works cent pour cent. I reset the  
 password, and OS X now is up-to-date. I installed updates that are  
 more than 1gb in that MacBook :) ..

 Now each time I restart the machine, I have to type the password.  
 How can I have Mac log in without asking for a password?

 All the Best
 Khalid
 - Original Message -
 From: Esther
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)

 Hello,

 I went and found my install discs and inserted them to check the  
 instructions.  I think what you found is simply that the Apple menu  
 (the first menu on the menu bar when you use VO-M) is dimmed.  This  
 is because all those operations reference the system loaded on the  
 hard drive, and you are by-passing the hard drive to boot off the  
 install disc.  If you arrow across to any of the other menu options  
 on the menu bar and specifically, if you press u or navigate with  
 your arrow keys to the Utilities menu on the menu bar and arrow  
 down, none of the entries should be dimmed.  If you arrow down to  
 the Reset Password option of the Utilities menu I think you will  
 be fine.   Just remember that the password you want to reset is for  
 your friend -- if he has Administrator privileges.  Do not select  
 System Administrator as the account for the password you want to  
 reset.  Also, don't worry or try to set anything about keychains.   
 Chances are that if your friend never knew his password that there  
 are no keychains to worry about.

 You can quit at any time with Command-Q, or by choosing the option  
 to quit from the Installer menu on the menu bar.

 HTH

 Cheers,

 Esther

 Dr.Khalid wrote:

 Thanks for the instruction .

 I was able to choose English from the list of languages, then I  
 pressed continue. I then searched for utility which I couldn't  
 find . So I pressed VO-M , but all the options were dimmed . I  
 couldn't choose the system preference.. I then pressed continue,  
 and I got the options, to update OS x or to erase and  install,  
 or archive and install...

 I didn't want to mess around , so I didn't choose any of these  
 options .. How can I get to utility to change the password ? Any  
 help is appreciated ..

 TIA
 Khalid
 - Original Message -
 From: Esther
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)


 Hi,

 Daniel answered your question that the c key was the letter c.   
 There are various keys that you can hold down while the Mac is  
 booting that determine the boot mode.  Most of these stand for  
 modes that are easy to remember. C stands for Boot from inserted  
 CD or DVD; the Shift key  stands for Boot into Safe mode (a  
 restricted access mode where you only bring up a subset of the  
 operating system where audio and network connections are disabled  
 -- this mode is not accessible, but certain problems can be fixed  
 by just booting intothis mode (without logging in), and  
 then rebooting normally; T stands for boot into  target disk mode  
 

Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

christer


see my message i sent from david. the voices will be in beta for  
snowleopard on friday

On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:15, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 The question then is will there be non-english voices from Acapela or
 other companies available or do i have to wait to install SL until
 such time as they're available?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 17.24 skrev Maccessibility:


 Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

 After a couple of weeks, during which we saw the rumor mills heat up
 with
 speculation of an August 28th release of Apple's latest version of
 their Mac OS
 X operating system, the company issued a press release this morning,
 officially
 announcing that date.
 Snow Leopard builds on our most successful operating system ever and
 we’re
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Infovox iVox voices and Snow Leopard

2009-08-24 Thread David Niemeijer

Hi,

Infovox iVox 1.3 will not work on Snow Leopard. Infovox  iVox 2.0 will  
be required. This will be a free update. As iVox 2.0 required a major  
rewrite for compatibility with Snow Leopard and Apple has released  
Snow Leopard earlier than they had said previously we do not have a  
final release for iVox 2.0 ready yet. Instead, if our current tests  
are positive we will make iVox 2.0 available as a public beta by  
Friday, 28 August. If you rely on Infovox iVox do not upgrade to Snow  
Leopard until you have upgraded to iVox 2.0.

Note that if you rely on the older HD voices (which do not sound as  
good as the more recent HQ voices) you should not upgrade to Snow  
Leopard as the change to support 64 bit technology made it impossible  
to retain the HD voices in Infovox iVox 2.0. For most languages HQ  
voices are available (several new ones are included in Infovox iVox  
2.0). Only Icelandic had to be completely dropped in Infovox iVox 2.0  
because there are no HQ voices for that language.

With best wishes,

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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas


i mean multitouch trackpad
On 24 Aug 2009, at 15:50, Mark Baxter wrote:


 So, then, if I got my Macbook Pro15 last January, through the State of
 CA's DOR, and they'd instituted apple cares, how do I find out the
 best/cheapest way for me to get Snow Leopard?

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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread Chantel Cuddemi

What new mac?
On Aug 24, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:


 whitch voices will work with the new mac?

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 12:19 PM, David Niemeijer wrote:



 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:31 AM, hank smith wrote:

 will the latest voices work on the 32 bit mac
 meaning the new voices that you are working on for snow leapard are
 they backwards conpatible with 10.5?

 Yes, most are. Only the older HD voices had to be dropped.

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

2009-08-24 Thread Brandon Misch

what voices?
am curious now.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 12:56 PM, william lomas wrote:


 christer


 see my message i sent from david. the voices will be in beta for
 snowleopard on friday

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:15, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 The question then is will there be non-english voices from Acapela or
 other companies available or do i have to wait to install SL until
 such time as they're available?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 17.24 skrev Maccessibility:


 Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

 After a couple of weeks, during which we saw the rumor mills heat up
 with
 speculation of an August 28th release of Apple's latest version of
 their Mac OS
 X operating system, the company issued a press release this morning,
 officially
 announcing that date.
 Snow Leopard builds on our most successful operating system ever and
 we’re
 [...]

 You can read the rest of this news item at:
 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/24/mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-shipping-on-28august2009/

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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread Koumanova Rostislava

hellow david ,
i am using the italian voice ,  can i upgrade to snow ?
rk
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 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:31 AM, hank smith wrote:

 will the latest voices work on the 32 bit mac
 meaning the new voices that you are working on for snow leapard are
 they backwards conpatible with 10.5?

 Yes, most are. Only the older HD voices had to be dropped.

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

2009-08-24 Thread Chantel Cuddemi

Me too.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:


 what voices?
 am curious now.

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 12:56 PM, william lomas wrote:


 christer


 see my message i sent from david. the voices will be in beta for
 snowleopard on friday

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:15, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 The question then is will there be non-english voices from Acapela  
 or
 other companies available or do i have to wait to install SL until
 such time as they're available?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 17.24 skrev Maccessibility:


 Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

 After a couple of weeks, during which we saw the rumor mills heat  
 up
 with
 speculation of an August 28th release of Apple's latest version of
 their Mac OS
 X operating system, the company issued a press release this  
 morning,
 officially
 announcing that date.
 Snow Leopard builds on our most successful operating system ever  
 and
 we’re
 [...]

 You can read the rest of this news item at:
 http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/24/mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-shipping-on-28august2009/

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Re: audible.com question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Oh.  that kmakes sense. *grin* Thanks.
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Daniel Crone wrote:


 I just put my audible books in to a folder called audible books.
 Then I import that folder in to my itunes.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hi Daniel,

 Thanks for the tip to download a book.  I had been to the Audible
 site, and seen that I didn't need to download any software, but  
 wasn't
 sure what the next step was, as I figured I had to do something to
 authorize Audible on this computer.

 I do have one question.  On my Windows machine, there was actually a
 folder called Audible Downloads.  There does not seem to be a
 counterpart on the Mac. So, I guess my question has two parts:

 1.  Re the book I just downloaded, should I leave it in the downloads
 folder, or should I move it?  If I should move it, where should I  
 move
 it to?

 2.  To what folder should I copy the Audible files from my PC? ITunes
 Music?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Daniel Crone wrote:


 Just copying the audible files from your windows machine should  
 work.
 Download at least one book from audible to your mac so you may
 authorize your Mac to play audible.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Good morning all,

 I'm wondering about moving my audible content over from my PC to my
 Mac.  Is it possible to just copy everything in my Audble downloads
 folder over to a location on  the Mac, or do I have to re-download
 everything?  If I can just copy it, to what location should I copy
 the
 files?
 Thanks,
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Re: Infovox iVox voices and Snow Leopard

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

which new voices are included?
just curious?
again many thanks
will

On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:24, David Niemeijer wrote:


 Hi,

 Infovox iVox 1.3 will not work on Snow Leopard. Infovox  iVox 2.0 will
 be required. This will be a free update. As iVox 2.0 required a major
 rewrite for compatibility with Snow Leopard and Apple has released
 Snow Leopard earlier than they had said previously we do not have a
 final release for iVox 2.0 ready yet. Instead, if our current tests
 are positive we will make iVox 2.0 available as a public beta by
 Friday, 28 August. If you rely on Infovox iVox do not upgrade to Snow
 Leopard until you have upgraded to iVox 2.0.

 Note that if you rely on the older HD voices (which do not sound as
 good as the more recent HQ voices) you should not upgrade to Snow
 Leopard as the change to support 64 bit technology made it impossible
 to retain the HD voices in Infovox iVox 2.0. For most languages HQ
 voices are available (several new ones are included in Infovox iVox
 2.0). Only Icelandic had to be completely dropped in Infovox iVox 2.0
 because there are no HQ voices for that language.

 With best wishes,

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Re: ivox 2?

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Thanks for that info, that's great news.
/Krister


24 aug 2009 kl. 18.22 skrev william lomas:



 Begin forwarded message:

 From: AssistiveWare Support supp...@assistiveware.com
 Date: 24 August 2009 17:17:06 BST
 To: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: ivox 2?

 Hi,

 iVox 1.3 will not work on Snow Leopard. iVox 2.0 will be required.  
 This will be a free update. As iVox 2.0 required a major rewrite  
 for compatibility with Snow Leopard and Apple has released Snow  
 Leopard earlier than they had said previously we do not have a  
 final release for iVox 2.0 ready yet. Instead, if our current tests  
 are positive we will make iVox 2.0 available as a public beta by  
 Friday, 28 August. If you rely on Infovox iVox do not upgrade to  
 Snow Leopard until you have upgraded to iVox 2.0.

 With best wishes,

 david.

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 5:49 PM, william lomas wrote:

 hi David, as snowleopard is guaranteed to be out Friday, when do  
 your company hope to release ivox 2 for SL compatability?
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audio clips

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

hi does microsoft messenger for mac let us do audio clips etc. as one  
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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi there,
How does one go about obtaining the voices for SL once it's released?  
I'm interested of the swedish voice pack.
/Krister

24 aug 2009 kl. 18.19 skrev David Niemeijer:



 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:31 AM, hank smith wrote:

 will the latest voices work on the 32 bit mac
 meaning the new voices that you are working on for snow leapard are
 they backwards conpatible with 10.5?

 Yes, most are. Only the older HD voices had to be dropped.

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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

the updated accapella ones for english and other foreign languages

On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:52, Brandon Misch wrote:


 whitch voices will work with the new mac?

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 12:19 PM, David Niemeijer wrote:



 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:31 AM, hank smith wrote:

 will the latest voices work on the 32 bit mac
 meaning the new voices that you are working on for snow leapard are
 they backwards conpatible with 10.5?

 Yes, most are. Only the older HD voices had to be dropped.

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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread David Niemeijer

Hi,

On Aug 24, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:


 hellow david ,
 i am using the italian voice ,  can i upgrade to snow ?

not yet. Wait for iVox 2.0. see my other message today for more info.

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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi,
A kinda speculative question here, i wonder if Apple will release a  
keyboard with a touch pad instead of a mighty mouse for desktop  
machines? Or is it even possible there'll be a stand-alone mouse  
replacement device thingy that's a touchpad?
/Krister

24 aug 2009 kl. 18.25 skrev william lomas:


 just wish i could use the touch pad features but ah well my macbook
 doesn't support it. I would ahve thought all macbooks since the first
 i phone would ahve had a touchpad

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 15:50, Mark Baxter wrote:


 So, then, if I got my Macbook Pro15 last January, through the State  
 of
 CA's DOR, and they'd instituted apple cares, how do I find out the
 best/cheapest way for me to get Snow Leopard?

 Mark BurningHawk Baxter

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[Mac-cessibility News] Infovox iVox Users Should Hold Off Upgrading to Snow Leopard

2009-08-24 Thread Maccessibility

Infovox iVox Users Should Hold Off Upgrading to Snow Leopard

Assistiveware has notified customers that Infovox iVox v1.3 will not work under
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, due for release this Friday. Users will require
Infovox  iVox v2.0, which will be a free update to existing users of v1.3. If
possible, the company hopes to release a public beta of Infovox iVox v2.0 [...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/08/24/infovox-ivox-users-should-hold-off-upgrading-to-snow-leopard/

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Re: Infovox iVox voices and Snow Leopard

2009-08-24 Thread David Niemeijer

Will,

On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:02 PM, william lomas wrote:
 which new voices are included?
 just curious?

Just wait a few more days and you will see what new languages and  
voices are available...

Patience is supposed to be a virtue :-)

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Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro

2009-08-24 Thread Gene Richburg

Hi thanks I'll try that later on when I have a chance and let you know how 
it goes!
Gene
- Original Message - 
From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro



Hi Gene.

First of all, I recommend you to do the following:
1: Open up the preferences by pressing command comma.
2: Choose the general tab
3: Move the VO-cursor to the left for some weird reason, and find the
playback settings. Set the If selection is empty to Play from
insertion point. If you change this setting, your playhead will
always follow your insertion point if you moves your insertion ppoint
by pressing the left or right arrow keys.

If you wanna select a part of your audiofile, you can do the following:
1: Press the spacebar to start the playback.
2: Press the spacebar again to pause the playback when you have found
the place where you wanna start your selection.
3: Now, you can choose to select in 3 different ways:
1: If you wanna select a few seconds, you can simply hold down the
shift key, and then select by pressing the right arrow key. Please
note that  the audio has to be stopped or paused to be able to select
anything. You can always press the spacebar to hear how much you have
selected.
2: You can place a marker at the playheads perfsition by pressing the
p-key
3: Or you can press command y to move the insertion point to the
playhead, and then press m to place a marker.
If you use step 2 or 3 to start your selection, you have to find the
perfsition in the audiofile where you wanna end your selection. So
start the playback again by pressing the spacebar, pause when you
wanna end your selection and re-peed either step 2 or 3 to place a
second marker.
Now you have placed two markers, so now you have to select the audio
between these two markers you've placed. You can do that by pressing
command left arrow if you have focussed on the last marker you've
placed, or command right arrow, if you've focussed on the first marker
you've placed. You can move between the markers by pressing option
left and right arrow.
When you have made a selection, you can then move the left edge of
your selection to the left or right by pressing a or s, or you can
move the right edge of the selection by pressing d or f. You can also
press e to hear what it sounds like if you delete the selected audio.

If you wanna enable the loop playback, you can do it in the following
way:
1: Find the Loop playback with the VO-cursor, and check the checkbox
by pressing VO spacebar.
2: Move back to the scroll-area, press VO command f5 to move the mouse
to the VO-cursor and press VO shift spacebar to gain focus on the
scroll area again.

I hope it explains how it works.

If someone wants to upload this guide to Lioncourt.com,
ICanWorkThisThing.com or other websites which contains useful guides,
you are welcome to check the guide for misspelled words and
grammatical errors and upload the guide. Please let me know before you
upload it.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 23/01/2009, at 21.23, Gene Richburg wrote:


 Hi yeah I gota say that I don't understand how you select something
 either I
 read that quick start guide on icanwork this thing.com but it gets
 kind of
 complecated trying to get the program to select something.  I have
 tried
 setting the markers but that doesn't work and when I try to either
 extend
 the selection either to the next or previous marker the e key still
 isn't
 selecting what I thought I had selected.  So I tried sound studio
 but am
 having a hard time finding any selecting commands in the manual.  Can
 someone try to explain how this works?
 - Original Message -
 From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro



 Hi Krister.

 I forgot to say that I don't find this extremely annoying because you
 can always press e to check what it sounds like if you delete the
 selected audio. What an awesome feature.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 23/08/2009, at 21.18, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 23 aug 2009 kl. 19.06 skrev Søren Jensen:

 I just wish it was possible to
 move the markers or selection while the audio is playing so you
 could
 hear the changes you made.

 Exactly my centiments too. It would be much easier to precition edit
 if you could hear what you were doing while doing it.
 /Krister






 





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Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread Søren Jensen

It's a paid app. If it was free, I would use it all the time. :(
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 24/08/2009, at 18.50, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:


 hi guys ,
 can i use this up only for cut and paste and then use my finder for
 all the other things?
 and is it a paid app or free ?
 i am just having tough time with the missing cut function.
 rk

 Il giorno 24/ago/09, alle ore 18:11, Krister Ekstrom ha scritto:


 Hi,
 Yes, but then you don't have columns like size, date modified etc or
 am i wrong?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 16.46 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi.

 The application will be very accessible if you change to column view
 in the view menu.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 24/08/2009, at 10.34, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hello,
 Funny you should mention that program. I checked it out and found
 that
 the only view in which it worked was list view i think. In other
 views
 it was jampacked with unknowns that VO couldn't act upon. It's
 possible there has been an update in the month or two since i  
 tested
 it on my system, and that would be nice. I however dropped the
 program
 since i think that if a program forces me to use one view and one
 view
 alone, it's not accessible because it doesn't let me have the
 freedom
 of choise that sighted people have.
 /Krister


 23 aug 2009 kl. 22.16 skrev Søren Jensen:


 Hi all.

 I've just found a very nice application called Path Finder, which
 is a
 replacement for the original Finder on the mac. The application
 have a
 lot of nice features, and it seems to be fully accessible. You can
 move or cut files with this application, it can compress files
 into a
 lot of filetypes, it can open multiple windows in tabs instead of
 just
 new windows, it can sort files and folders like in Windows, where
 all
 the folders are shown at the top in alphabetically order, it has
 some
 terminal features which I have no idea about what means and a tun
 of
 more features.
 You can find more information at the following link:
 http://www.cocoatech.com/reviews

 I'm really sorry if this application has been discussed here
 before.
 I've did a quick search for Path finder on the mail archive, but I
 couldn't find any topics about this application. I remember some
 Finder replacements which has been discussed here before, but I
 don't
 remember what they are called.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
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Re: audible.com question

2009-08-24 Thread Esther

Hi Donna,

Just a few additions to Daniel's remarks.  You can make things a  
little more efficient if you copy your Audible files (which can be in  
an Audible Downloads folder) to your iTunes Music folder, which you'll  
find in your account under Music/iTunes/iTunes Music.  While you  
don't actually need to download a book, that's a good way to start  
authorization.  Otherwise you would be prompted to authorize your  
account the first time you tried to play one of the Audible files you  
transfer to your Mac.  If you ever need to de-authorize your Mac's  
Audible account, for example, if you upgrade your computer or before  
you send your Computer in for service (in case they replace a logic  
board or other element that wipes out your authorization record), you  
can find a Deauthorize Audible account … option in the Advanced menu  
on the iTunes menu bar.

I'm guessing that you used the Audible Downloads Manager on your  
Windows PC? Here's a link to the Audible Customer help page on  
Everything iPod and iTunes for Audible Content (Mac) in case you  
have further questions:

http://audible.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3458

On the Mac, downloaded files go to your Downloads folder. If you play  
or open an Audible file it should get added to your iTunes library --  
usually, by being copied to that location.

Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 24, 2009, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Oh.  that kmakes sense. *grin* Thanks.
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2009, Daniel Crone wrote:


 I just put my audible books in to a folder called audible books.
 Then I import that folder in to my itunes.
 On Aug 24, 2009, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hi Daniel,

 Thanks for the tip to download a book.  I had been to the Audible
 site, and seen that I didn't need to download any software, but
 wasn't
 sure what the next step was, as I figured I had to do something to
 authorize Audible on this computer.

 I do have one question.  On my Windows machine, there was actually a
 folder called Audible Downloads.  There does not seem to be a
 counterpart on the Mac. So, I guess my question has two parts:

 1.  Re the book I just downloaded, should I leave it in the  
 downloads
 folder, or should I move it?  If I should move it, where should I
 move
 it to?

 2.  To what folder should I copy the Audible files from my PC?  
 ITunes
 Music?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Daniel Crone wrote:


 Just copying the audible files from your windows machine should
 work.
 Download at least one book from audible to your mac so you may
 authorize your Mac to play audible.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Good morning all,

 I'm wondering about moving my audible content over from my PC to  
 my
 Mac.  Is it possible to just copy everything in my Audble  
 downloads
 folder over to a location on  the Mac, or do I have to re-download
 everything?  If I can just copy it, to what location should I copy
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 files?
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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

Just order it for $29. The system did not ask me for a serial number  
of my machine etc. If you have Leopard/an Intel Mac, your good to go.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:


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 CA's DOR, and they'd instituted apple cares, how do I find out the
 best/cheapest way for me to get Snow Leopard?

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

2009-08-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Yep, i saw that. Interesting times indeed.
/Krister

24 aug 2009 kl. 18.56 skrev william lomas:


 christer


 see my message i sent from david. the voices will be in beta for
 snowleopard on friday

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:15, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 The question then is will there be non-english voices from Acapela or
 other companies available or do i have to wait to install SL until
 such time as they're available?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 17.24 skrev Maccessibility:


 Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping on 28/August/2009

 After a couple of weeks, during which we saw the rumor mills heat up
 with
 speculation of an August 28th release of Apple's latest version of
 their Mac OS
 X operating system, the company issued a press release this morning,
 officially
 announcing that date.
 Snow Leopard builds on our most successful operating system ever and
 we’re
 [...]

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Re: Checking Download speed in iTunes

2009-08-24 Thread Esther

Hi Robert,

Will has answered your question, but in case you want more details, if  
you select Downloads in the Sources table (below the iTunes Store  
and Purchased smart playlist) and then tab to the table, and interact,  
you'll be able to select and monitor the status of all downloads  
currently in progress. The sources table Downloads entry also  
announces the number of downloads currently in progress/pending.  In  
the other table, arrow down in the Name column then VO-Right to the  
Status column and interact to monitor the progress.  There will also  
be a button to pause individual downloads.  You'll hear something  
like: Status 46.2 MB of 109.1 MB - 2 minutes remaining pause  
announced.  If you stop interacting with the table, there's also a  
check box to permit multiple simultaneous downloads (checked by  
default) and buttons that allow you to pause or resume all downloads.

HTH.  Generally, when you download a song, the process will be  
complete before you can navigate to the place where you can check on  
the download status.  It's only on the longer files (podcasts,  
audiobooks, movies, etc.) that you may want to monitor the download.

Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 23, 2009 william lomas wrote:


 yes go to the downloads playlist and in the table that you will find,
 it shows the download progress

 On 23 Aug 2009, Robert Carter wrote:


 Hi,

 When downloading podcasts in iTunes is there a way to use VoiceOver  
 to
 check the speed of the download?

 Thanks,

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Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

i hope so as i want one!!! a portable trackpad

On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:22, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi,
 A kinda speculative question here, i wonder if Apple will release a
 keyboard with a touch pad instead of a mighty mouse for desktop
 machines? Or is it even possible there'll be a stand-alone mouse
 replacement device thingy that's a touchpad?
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 18.25 skrev william lomas:


 just wish i could use the touch pad features but ah well my macbook
 doesn't support it. I would ahve thought all macbooks since the first
 i phone would ahve had a touchpad

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 15:50, Mark Baxter wrote:


 So, then, if I got my Macbook Pro15 last January, through the State
 of
 CA's DOR, and they'd instituted apple cares, how do I find out the
 best/cheapest way for me to get Snow Leopard?

 Mark BurningHawk Baxter

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 MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
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Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?

2009-08-24 Thread a radix

Hello, I am wondering, i am thinking this will work with readiris pro but I 
am wondering if it does with vuescan too? My scanner has a sheetfeeder so it 
can scan 25-50 pages at once. I always use it this way i never scan loose 
pages, also my scanner has the capability (albeit not by scanning both sides 
at once) to scan both sides of a page wihtout you having to manually turn 
them.  I guess readiris supports this (i mean, it seems to be a major ocr 
package), but i wonder if vuescan can do this as well?
Greetings, Anouk,
- Original Message - 
From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?



 Hi,
 Well there are apparently different opinions about this, some say you
 can't some, (i), say you can. I'm currently using Vuescan, but i can
 to be honest, not see what difference it makes in scanning quality. I
 have a canon Lide 90 scanner and before i purchased Vuescan i used it
 successfully with Readiris but then i heard that the Vuescan/Readiris
 combo should be better. I don't know about that to be honest. I'm not
 saying that it isn't only that i haven't noticed any difference in
 quality. It's much easier to reach the scanning stuff, i.e the button
 to scan with in Vuescan though so i guess it's up to you to judge what
 works best.
 Sorry for the rambling.
 /Krister


 22 aug 2009 kl. 21.37 skrev a radix:

 Hello, Is it possible to use readiris pro with just your scanners
 driver or do you have to use vuescan?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,

 


  


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Re: audible.com question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi Esther,

As always, thanks for this.  I did see the De-authorization option  
that you mentioned, but wasn't sure--before Dan's message--what to do  
to authorize. I second Chris's earlier post, that your messages have  
been invaluable.  thanks for taking to provide so much great info to  
us newbies.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Esther wrote:


 Hi Donna,

 Just a few additions to Daniel's remarks.  You can make things a
 little more efficient if you copy your Audible files (which can be in
 an Audible Downloads folder) to your iTunes Music folder, which you'll
 find in your account under Music/iTunes/iTunes Music.  While you
 don't actually need to download a book, that's a good way to start
 authorization.  Otherwise you would be prompted to authorize your
 account the first time you tried to play one of the Audible files you
 transfer to your Mac.  If you ever need to de-authorize your Mac's
 Audible account, for example, if you upgrade your computer or before
 you send your Computer in for service (in case they replace a logic
 board or other element that wipes out your authorization record), you
 can find a Deauthorize Audible account … option in the Advanced menu
 on the iTunes menu bar.

 I'm guessing that you used the Audible Downloads Manager on your
 Windows PC? Here's a link to the Audible Customer help page on
 Everything iPod and iTunes for Audible Content (Mac) in case you
 have further questions:

 http://audible.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3458

 On the Mac, downloaded files go to your Downloads folder. If you play
 or open an Audible file it should get added to your iTunes library --
 usually, by being copied to that location.

 Cheers,

 Esther

 On Aug 24, 2009, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Oh.  that kmakes sense. *grin* Thanks.
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2009, Daniel Crone wrote:


 I just put my audible books in to a folder called audible books.
 Then I import that folder in to my itunes.
 On Aug 24, 2009, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hi Daniel,

 Thanks for the tip to download a book.  I had been to the Audible
 site, and seen that I didn't need to download any software, but
 wasn't
 sure what the next step was, as I figured I had to do something to
 authorize Audible on this computer.

 I do have one question.  On my Windows machine, there was  
 actually a
 folder called Audible Downloads.  There does not seem to be a
 counterpart on the Mac. So, I guess my question has two parts:

 1.  Re the book I just downloaded, should I leave it in the
 downloads
 folder, or should I move it?  If I should move it, where should I
 move
 it to?

 2.  To what folder should I copy the Audible files from my PC?
 ITunes
 Music?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Daniel Crone wrote:


 Just copying the audible files from your windows machine should
 work.
 Download at least one book from audible to your mac so you may
 authorize your Mac to play audible.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Good morning all,

 I'm wondering about moving my audible content over from my PC to
 my
 Mac.  Is it possible to just copy everything in my Audble
 downloads
 folder over to a location on  the Mac, or do I have to re- 
 download
 everything?  If I can just copy it, to what location should I  
 copy
 the
 files?
 Thanks,
 Donna


















 



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Re: mac mini mic jack

2009-08-24 Thread John G. Heim

Yeah, I checked all my configuration settings in skype. I am no skype expert 
but I know enough to get it working on a Windows machine with 2 sound cards. 
I had jaws speaking via one sound card and skype working through the other. 
Very nice.  But that's on a Windows machine that I really need to get rid 
of.

Anyway, I got smart and asked the google after I posted my question here. So 
now I'm about as sure as I can be that it's a hardware problem.  I guess I 
can understand that Apple was in a bind. They didn't want to have a mic jack 
on the Mac mini that is incompatible with all the other Macs out there.  But 
I shouldn't have to buy a new headset to use with my Mac mini either.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: mac mini mic jack


 Hi!

 Okay, just because the microphone worked with the Windows PC doesn't
 mean its going to work with the Mac I'm afraid and if my hunch is
 correct - that you're using a microphone which plugs into the
 microphone jack of a PC and you're expecting it to work plugged into
 the Line in jack of your Mac - then you're going to be a little
 disappointed I think smile.

 I can't answer your garage Band question I'm afraid so let's deal with
 Skype then.  The first thing you need to do is set the audio
 preferences in Skype, these are independent o the System Preferences
 for the Mac and are found by pressing command-, in Skype, go to the
 Toolbar, interact with it and press vo-space on the Audio button.
 From here you select your input and output, make sure the input
 reflects the microphone or whatever you're using.

 I bypassed a lot of this trouble by using a simple USB microphone,
 Logitech sell one for about $40.00 which does an excellent job, its
 the same as the one I use.  You may also like to consider a USB
 headset though be a little careful here, some microphones on some
 sound as though you have your finger stuck up your nose smile.

 One final thing, to determine what you sound like on Skype, make a
 call to Skype Test Call which should be in your contacts table
 somewhere, if you can't find it then go into the View menu and
 select Show offline contacts


 On 22/08/2009, at 12:46 PM, John G. Heim wrote:


 I am trying to use skype on my mac mini. But the microphone doesn't
 work. I
 know the microphone I am using works because I just made a skype
 call with
 it on my Windows machine on Monday. I also tried connecting a stereo
 imput
 line to the jack and recording something with Garage Band and that
 didn't
 work either.

 I went into system preferences and found the imput tab. I turned the
 lin-in
 volume up to 100%. Still no luck.

 Any ideas?


 


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Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro

2009-08-24 Thread Søren Jensen

True. I forgot to tell that. Another nice thing is that you can read  
the selected zoom level with the VO-cursor.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
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Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 24/08/2009, at 20.26, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Thanks for the great info, Soren! One thing I can add is that changing
 the zoom level changes how quickly you can make noticeable changes
 with A, S, D, and F. Command-G decreases the zoom level and Command-
 Shift-G increases it. So if those letter commands don't appear to be
 doing anything, press Command-Shift-G and try them again.

 Best,
 Anna



 On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi Gene.

 First of all, I recommend you to do the following:
 1: Open up the preferences by pressing command comma.
 2: Choose the general tab
 3: Move the VO-cursor to the left for some weird reason, and find the
 playback settings. Set the If selection is empty to Play from
 insertion point. If you change this setting, your playhead will
 always follow your insertion point if you moves your insertion ppoint
 by pressing the left or right arrow keys.

 If you wanna select a part of your audiofile, you can do the
 following:
 1: Press the spacebar to start the playback.
 2: Press the spacebar again to pause the playback when you have found
 the place where you wanna start your selection.
 3: Now, you can choose to select in 3 different ways:
 1: If you wanna select a few seconds, you can simply hold down the
 shift key, and then select by pressing the right arrow key. Please
 note that  the audio has to be stopped or paused to be able to select
 anything. You can always press the spacebar to hear how much you have
 selected.
 2: You can place a marker at the playheads perfsition by pressing the
 p-key
 3: Or you can press command y to move the insertion point to the
 playhead, and then press m to place a marker.
 If you use step 2 or 3 to start your selection, you have to find the
 perfsition in the audiofile where you wanna end your selection. So
 start the playback again by pressing the spacebar, pause when you
 wanna end your selection and re-peed either step 2 or 3 to place a
 second marker.
 Now you have placed two markers, so now you have to select the audio
 between these two markers you've placed. You can do that by pressing
 command left arrow if you have focussed on the last marker you've
 placed, or command right arrow, if you've focussed on the first  
 marker
 you've placed. You can move between the markers by pressing option
 left and right arrow.
 When you have made a selection, you can then move the left edge of
 your selection to the left or right by pressing a or s, or you can
 move the right edge of the selection by pressing d or f. You can also
 press e to hear what it sounds like if you delete the selected audio.

 If you wanna enable the loop playback, you can do it in the following
 way:
 1: Find the Loop playback with the VO-cursor, and check the  
 checkbox
 by pressing VO spacebar.
 2: Move back to the scroll-area, press VO command f5 to move the  
 mouse
 to the VO-cursor and press VO shift spacebar to gain focus on the
 scroll area again.

 I hope it explains how it works.

 If someone wants to upload this guide to Lioncourt.com,
 ICanWorkThisThing.com or other websites which contains useful guides,
 you are welcome to check the guide for misspelled words and
 grammatical errors and upload the guide. Please let me know before  
 you
 upload it.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 23/01/2009, at 21.23, Gene Richburg wrote:


 Hi yeah I gota say that I don't understand how you select something
 either I
 read that quick start guide on icanwork this thing.com but it gets
 kind of
 complecated trying to get the program to select something.  I have
 tried
 setting the markers but that doesn't work and when I try to either
 extend
 the selection either to the next or previous marker the e key still
 isn't
 selecting what I thought I had selected.  So I tried sound studio
 but am
 having a hard time finding any selecting commands in the manual.   
 Can
 someone try to explain how this works?
 - Original Message -
 From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro



 Hi Krister.

 I forgot to say that I don't find this extremely annoying because  
 you
 can always press e to check what it sounds like if you delete the
 selected audio. What an awesome feature.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 23/08/2009, at 21.18, Krister Ekstrom wrote:



 23 aug 2009 kl. 19.06 skrev Søren Jensen:

 I just wish it was possible to
 move the markers or selection while the audio is playing so you
 could
 hear the changes you made.

 Exactly my centiments too. It 

Re: iphone vs pac mate

2009-08-24 Thread John G. Heim

One more question though... Which GPS app do you use on your phone and is it 
as good as StreetTalk?

I'm afraid that I'll buy an iphonly to discover that I can't find a decent, 
accessible  GPS app.



- Original Message - 
From: John Sanfilippo vze33...@verizon.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate


personal opinion,

The pac mate and street talk are both dead animals. The only thing I like 
about the pac mate now is the braille display and the ability to use it or 
the pac mate itself if either is not working. The braille display is the 
better part of the hardware, in my opinion.

My experience with the pac mate and street talk, is that:

1, the gps receiver provided with the package can be far too tardy in 
tracking satelites, or being tracked by them, take your pick.

2, you need a blue tooth card installed in one of the cf slots, and your 
maps installed in the other, which means you need to do some jiggling around 
and setting up before you can get going.

3, I found that the entire setup was a hoffible drain on the pm battery. 
This is true on the cel phone as well, but at least there, I can bring along 
a spare battery and there is no setup.

My two cents.

js


  - Original Message - 
  From: John G. Heim
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 PM
  Subject: iphone vs pac mate



  I am thinking of selling my Pac Mate in favor of an iphone. My main 
question
  is whether I can get a comperable GPS system to a Pac Mate with 
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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread James Nash

The voices from Acapella are great but it's rediculous that Apple keep 
avoiding the answer on whether or not they will ever include other language 
voices as they do in the IPhone. If they can do it in the IPhone they can do 
so in Mac OS X 10.6 +. This is especiallly true considering that they are 
based in California whre are large percentage of the population are Spanish 
speaking. The same is true for Braille.

Take care
- Original Message - 
From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: voices on os x



 you would download the sweedish pack and get an initial 30 day demo
 again if apple had basic sweedish as in the i phone that would ahve
 gotten you started, for now
 but that's life

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:25, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi there,
 How does one go about obtaining the voices for SL once it's released?
 I'm interested of the swedish voice pack.
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 18.19 skrev David Niemeijer:



 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:31 AM, hank smith wrote:

 will the latest voices work on the 32 bit mac
 meaning the new voices that you are working on for snow leapard are
 they backwards conpatible with 10.5?

 Yes, most are. Only the older HD voices had to be dropped.

 david.




 


  


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Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?

2009-08-24 Thread hank smith

can you download eyetv lite?
- Original Message - 
From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?



I don't use a sattle lite box. I only have a usb tv-tuner which I just
plug in to my mac, and then connect a small antenna in the other end
of the tuner. The following things came with the product: A small USB
tv-tuner, a small antenna, a small remote control which works with the
tv-tuner and which controls the eyeTv software through the tuner and
of course EyeTv on a cd.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 24/08/2009, at 08.53, hank smith wrote:


 how do you control your sattle lite box from your tuner?

 - Original Message -
 From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?



 The EyeTV software or the remote control which comes  with the tv
 tuner.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 On 21/08/2009, at 10.53, hank smith wrote:


 what does any one suggest that we can use from the tv tuner end to
 control it?
 Hank
 On Aug 21, 2009, at 12:23 AM, a radix wrote:


 Hello, well I was actually more thinking of watching tv when I am
 away at
 home. I too only have a digital settop box only, no tv.
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: John G. Heim jh...@math.wisc.edu
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 AM
 Subject: Re: watching (analog) tv on the mac?



 I can't find the beginning of this thread and I can't give any info
 about
 watching TV on the Mac but for $5 you can buy a cable that allows
 you to
 connect a VCR, DVD player, or a digital converter box to the sound
 input
 jack of your Mac. I don't have a TV any more. I just have a
 converter box.
 But I don't want a picture, just sound.














 




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Re: mac mini mic jack

2009-08-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Right, well before I go any further, I've just changed the subject  
line as the Mac Mini - nor any other modern day Mac - does not have a  
microphone jack smile.

You're dealing with 2 different beasts here actually, setting Skype up  
for the PC is somewhat different than setting it up for the Mac and I  
won't go into the differences here but I do agree, if you can set it  
up with the PC then ou'll have no trouble whatever in setting it for  
the Mac, how many sound devices or whatever you have isn't  
particularly important when it comes to the Mac, all you need to  
remember is to set your Skype input and output correctly to what you  
want.

I'm not going to enter into the argument as to what you should or  
shouldn't have to buy, I've never liked those microphones that plug  
directly into a Sound Card anyway but that's only my opinion and I've  
only seen cheap one's smile, one thing to be said for a USB Headset  
is that it works on every computer with just about every operating  
system, that's the case with my Logitech Headset and my Logitech  
desktop microphone so for that reason alone, I reckon they're  
excellent buys.


On 25/08/2009, at 4:46 AM, John G. Heim wrote:


 Yeah, I checked all my configuration settings in skype. I am no  
 skype expert
 but I know enough to get it working on a Windows machine with 2  
 sound cards.
 I had jaws speaking via one sound card and skype working through the  
 other.
 Very nice.  But that's on a Windows machine that I really need to  
 get rid
 of.

 Anyway, I got smart and asked the google after I posted my question  
 here. So
 now I'm about as sure as I can be that it's a hardware problem.  I  
 guess I
 can understand that Apple was in a bind. They didn't want to have a  
 mic jack
 on the Mac mini that is incompatible with all the other Macs out  
 there.  But
 I shouldn't have to buy a new headset to use with my Mac mini either.

 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:47 PM
 Subject: Re: mac mini mic jack


 Hi!

 Okay, just because the microphone worked with the Windows PC doesn't
 mean its going to work with the Mac I'm afraid and if my hunch is
 correct - that you're using a microphone which plugs into the
 microphone jack of a PC and you're expecting it to work plugged into
 the Line in jack of your Mac - then you're going to be a little
 disappointed I think smile.

 I can't answer your garage Band question I'm afraid so let's deal  
 with
 Skype then.  The first thing you need to do is set the audio
 preferences in Skype, these are independent o the System Preferences
 for the Mac and are found by pressing command-, in Skype, go to the
 Toolbar, interact with it and press vo-space on the Audio button.
 From here you select your input and output, make sure the input
 reflects the microphone or whatever you're using.

 I bypassed a lot of this trouble by using a simple USB microphone,
 Logitech sell one for about $40.00 which does an excellent job, its
 the same as the one I use.  You may also like to consider a USB
 headset though be a little careful here, some microphones on some
 sound as though you have your finger stuck up your nose smile.

 One final thing, to determine what you sound like on Skype, make a
 call to Skype Test Call which should be in your contacts table
 somewhere, if you can't find it then go into the View menu and
 select Show offline contacts


 On 22/08/2009, at 12:46 PM, John G. Heim wrote:


 I am trying to use skype on my mac mini. But the microphone doesn't
 work. I
 know the microphone I am using works because I just made a skype
 call with
 it on my Windows machine on Monday. I also tried connecting a stereo
 imput
 line to the jack and recording something with Garage Band and that
 didn't
 work either.

 I went into system preferences and found the imput tab. I turned the
 lin-in
 volume up to 100%. Still no luck.

 Any ideas?





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curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Hello all,

I have noticed something that seems odd about the Cut command.  It  
seems never to function.  It doesn't matter whether I use Command-X or  
whether I go into the menus.  If I go into the menu, that option  
simply shows as dimmed, even though I have an item selected.
Likewise, if I press Command-X, nothing happens. Can anyone explain  
this?
Thanks,
Donna

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ilife on 10.6?

2009-08-24 Thread a radix
Hello my mac will be here by friday (i ordered just too early for 10.6 to be 
preinstalled) I wonder since I would like to use ilife which will be 
preinstalled on my mac, will there be a separate cd that contains just ilife? 
If not how can i install  it after i installed 10.6?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: How to Shuffle within Playlists [was Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it]

2009-08-24 Thread rayna424

I agree, thats why I bring my questions here rather than trying to
search for answers. Everyone here is so knowledgeable and actually
uses it all. I just have to comment on Brahms and MandM haha, that is
too funny. As I write this, I'm listening to all my track 4's, and I
had Alice and Chains, and then Phantom of the Opera, and now Hooked on
a Feeling...going from Think of Me to Hooka chaka hooka hookatee
hee.

Thanks for all the help everyone!!!
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Re: got a message from abbyyFw: questions about finereader for the mac

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
Anouk, I didn't find the interface to be much of an issue, but I was  
disappointed in the fact I could not use my scanner because it is a  
network appliance and not connected directly to the machine.  I may  
contact them again and see if I can push them into making this  
possible. I was also confused by the fact the preferences was grayed  
out. My assumption was the software allowed for various preferences to  
be set, but that menu was not available.
Guess I need to try to get in touch with someone who can address the  
issues better than Tech Support.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:01 PM, a radix wrote:

 Hello, I got in contact with someone at abbyy (eva webber product  
 manager, web...@abbyy.com) who tells me that their product should be  
 in compliance with some kind of accessibility law in the united  
 states. I have forwarded the message below to this list because she  
 asked me to contact her if I had further questions. I hope the ones  
 o fyou that have already tried finereader and found it unaccessible  
 would pelase contact her with more detailed information. I have not  
 tried it yet (since my mac is not here yet) but according to her it  
 SHOULD be accessible, it can do more then one page at once if the  
 scanner supports it, and the program supports the recognition o  
 fpages that are put in upside down (i read on this list hat it  
 apparently did not, but she says it does).
 I think it would be good if abbyy got more feedback from blind users  
 who are trying to use their product. Apparently it is still being  
 updated because she says there will be a new version for os x 10.6,  
 that might be a good point for more accessibility. I personally hope  
 they will port the big brother over to mac os x.
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: Eva Weber
 To: a radix
 Cc: Katelin Leinweber
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:23 PM
 Subject: AW: questions about finereader for the mac

 Hallo Anouk
 I have checked your requests back with our HQ.
 ABBYY FineReader Express Edtion has 508 compliance which assurase a  
 good usability for people with sight disabilities.
 The program is able to recognise if you insert the documents upside  
 down and correct it (you can as well do it maually) as well as  
 proceed documents in batches (if scanner support it)
 The program supports OS 10.4 and higher (it will be updated to 10.6  
 once 10.6 is released)

 I hope I could help you. Pls contact me directly if you have  
 additional questions.

 Best regards

 Eva Weber

 Von: a radix [mailto:anou...@home.nl]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 16:50
 An: Eva Weber
 Betreff: Re: questions about finereader for the mac

 Hello, no it is not urgent. Thanks for the help,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: Eva Weber
 To: Katelin Leinweber ; anou...@home.nl
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:15 PM
 Subject: AW: questions about finereader for the mac

 Dear Anouk
 yes, the version supports Mac OS 10.5
 It as well should recognise that you put pages upside down but to be  
 sure, I will test it. Pls have a bit patience, I do not have mac  
 computer available this week as I am working from home office on my  
 PC. I hope your request is not urgent.
 Best regards
 Eva Weber

 Von: Katelin Leinweber
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 09:30
 An: anou...@home.nl
 Cc: Eva Weber
 Betreff: RE: questions about finereader for the mac

 Hi Anouk,

 many thanks for your interest in FineReader Express for Mac.
 I have forwarded your request to our Product Manager Eva Weber who  
 will get in touch with you directly.
 Unfortunately we cannot offer trial versions for MACs at the moment  
 but may possibly be able to do that shortly. Eva will be able to  
 provide you with more accurate information about that.

 Kind regards,
 Katelin


 From: a radix [mailto:anou...@home.nl]
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:13 AM
 To: ABBYY Sales
 Subject: questions about finereader for the mac

 Hello, my name is Anouk Radix and I am blind. I use my scanner + ocr  
 software a lot because I need to scan and ocr books for my  
 university study (i do this using a sheetfeader so books are first  
 cut apart into loose pages) I wonder if the normal version of  
 readiris will be ported to the mac because it seems from other  
 people that I have contacted that the current version is not able to  
 scan multiple pages at once or correct pages that have been put in  
 the scanner upside down (a common thing that happens when you are  
 blind and live alone). Also, I wonder if the current finereader  
 version for the mac was developed for mac os x 10.5 because  
 according to some other blind users it is not entirely accessible  
 with voiceover. The thing is, i would really like to use a good  
 scanning package like finereader on my mac but only if the full  
 version is ported.
 Thanks for any information,
 Greetings, Anouk,

 


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Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

Anouk, that is more the function of your scanners driver.  Unless the  
software by-passes the scanners driver, then you should be able to use  
the feeder.  I've used the feeder on my HP all-in-one with great  
success.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:25 PM, a radix wrote:


 Hello, I am wondering, i am thinking this will work with readiris  
 pro but I
 am wondering if it does with vuescan too? My scanner has a  
 sheetfeeder so it
 can scan 25-50 pages at once. I always use it this way i never scan  
 loose
 pages, also my scanner has the capability (albeit not by scanning  
 both sides
 at once) to scan both sides of a page wihtout you having to manually  
 turn
 them.  I guess readiris supports this (i mean, it seems to be a  
 major ocr
 package), but i wonder if vuescan can do this as well?
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?



 Hi,
 Well there are apparently different opinions about this, some say you
 can't some, (i), say you can. I'm currently using Vuescan, but i can
 to be honest, not see what difference it makes in scanning quality. I
 have a canon Lide 90 scanner and before i purchased Vuescan i used it
 successfully with Readiris but then i heard that the Vuescan/Readiris
 combo should be better. I don't know about that to be honest. I'm not
 saying that it isn't only that i haven't noticed any difference in
 quality. It's much easier to reach the scanning stuff, i.e the button
 to scan with in Vuescan though so i guess it's up to you to judge  
 what
 works best.
 Sorry for the rambling.
 /Krister


 22 aug 2009 kl. 21.37 skrev a radix:

 Hello, Is it possible to use readiris pro with just your scanners
 driver or do you have to use vuescan?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,







 


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Re: Simple editing in Amadeus Pro

2009-08-24 Thread Esther

Hello,

I'm not sure whether people will find this useful, but if you've made  
a selection, and then go to the Selection menu on the Amadeus Pro menu  
bar to choose Generate Markers and then just press enter (without  
changing any of the settings in the dialog window that appears),  
you'll get markers generated at every silence point (that is at least  
1 second long) over your selection.  This is really helpful if you  
want to split off or edit sections at gaps.  I believe the markers get  
placed at the middle of silence gaps.  So if you've made a selection  
by manually placing markers at the beginning and end, and you want to  
get a clean break, you can generate markers over your selected  
region, then use s to move the starting point of your selection  
ahead in time (into the part where someone has started talking), and  
use d to move the ending point of your selection slightly back in  
time (where the comment is not finished), then use command-right arrow  
and command-left arrow to push the selection boundaries to match the  
automatically placed silence markers at the start and end of your  
selection.  (Hope this doesn't sound too confusing!).

Another example: If I record a cassette tape of songs with Amadeus  
Pro, I can use the Generate Markers option, and if I select all  
(Command-A) after trimming the start and end, and then choose a time  
for the silence gap of something like 20 seconds, I can use the Split  
according to markers command in the Sound menu to automatically  
split the recording up into its component songs.

Cheers,

Esther

Søren Jensen wrote:


 True. I forgot to tell that. Another nice thing is that you can read
 the selected zoom level with the VO-cursor.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

 Woody Anna Dresner wrote:


 Thanks for the great info, Soren! One thing I can add is that  
 changing
 the zoom level changes how quickly you can make noticeable changes
 with A, S, D, and F. Command-G decreases the zoom level and Command-
 Shift-G increases it. So if those letter commands don't appear to be
 doing anything, press Command-Shift-G and try them again.

 Best,
 Anna



 On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


 Hi Gene.

 First of all, I recommend you to do the following:
 1: Open up the preferences by pressing command comma.
 2: Choose the general tab
 3: Move the VO-cursor to the left for some weird reason, and find  
 the
 playback settings. Set the If selection is empty to Play from
 insertion point. If you change this setting, your playhead will
 always follow your insertion point if you moves your insertion  
 ppoint
 by pressing the left or right arrow keys.

 If you wanna select a part of your audiofile, you can do the
 following:
 1: Press the spacebar to start the playback.
 2: Press the spacebar again to pause the playback when you have  
 found
 the place where you wanna start your selection.
 3: Now, you can choose to select in 3 different ways:
 1: If you wanna select a few seconds, you can simply hold down the
 shift key, and then select by pressing the right arrow key. Please
 note that  the audio has to be stopped or paused to be able to  
 select
 anything. You can always press the spacebar to hear how much you  
 have
 selected.
 2: You can place a marker at the playheads perfsition by pressing  
 the
 p-key
 3: Or you can press command y to move the insertion point to the
 playhead, and then press m to place a marker.
 If you use step 2 or 3 to start your selection, you have to find the
 perfsition in the audiofile where you wanna end your selection. So
 start the playback again by pressing the spacebar, pause when you
 wanna end your selection and re-peed either step 2 or 3 to place a
 second marker.
 Now you have placed two markers, so now you have to select the audio
 between these two markers you've placed. You can do that by pressing
 command left arrow if you have focussed on the last marker you've
 placed, or command right arrow, if you've focussed on the first
 marker
 you've placed. You can move between the markers by pressing option
 left and right arrow.
 When you have made a selection, you can then move the left edge of
 your selection to the left or right by pressing a or s, or you can
 move the right edge of the selection by pressing d or f. You can  
 also
 press e to hear what it sounds like if you delete the selected  
 audio.

 If you wanna enable the loop playback, you can do it in the  
 following
 way:
 1: Find the Loop playback with the VO-cursor, and check the
 checkbox
 by pressing VO spacebar.
 2: Move back to the scroll-area, press VO command f5 to move the
 mouse
 to the VO-cursor and press VO shift spacebar to gain focus on the
 scroll area again.

 I hope it explains how it works.

 If someone wants to upload this guide to Lioncourt.com,
 ICanWorkThisThing.com or other websites which contains useful  
 guides,
 you are welcome 

Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

if braille is in other languages in snowleopard i'd be interested to  
see if foreign braille is there

On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:04, James  Nash wrote:


 The voices from Acapella are great but it's rediculous that Apple keep
 avoiding the answer on whether or not they will ever include other  
 language
 voices as they do in the IPhone. If they can do it in the IPhone  
 they can do
 so in Mac OS X 10.6 +. This is especiallly true considering that  
 they are
 based in California whre are large percentage of the population are  
 Spanish
 speaking. The same is true for Braille.

 Take care
 - Original Message -
 From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:15 PM
 Subject: Re: voices on os x



 you would download the sweedish pack and get an initial 30 day demo
 again if apple had basic sweedish as in the i phone that would ahve
 gotten you started, for now
 but that's life

 On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:25, Krister Ekstrom wrote:


 Hi there,
 How does one go about obtaining the voices for SL once it's  
 released?
 I'm interested of the swedish voice pack.
 /Krister

 24 aug 2009 kl. 18.19 skrev David Niemeijer:



 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:31 AM, hank smith wrote:

 will the latest voices work on the 32 bit mac
 meaning the new voices that you are working on for snow leapard  
 are
 they backwards conpatible with 10.5?

 Yes, most are. Only the older HD voices had to be dropped.

 david.










 


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probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi all,

When browsing in the ITunes store, How can one tell whether a track is  
ITunes Plus or not?  I don't want to purchase anything with DRM.

Thanks,
Donna

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Re: probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth

drm is extinct, I believe Donna

On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hi all,

 When browsing in the ITunes store, How can one tell whether a track is
 ITunes Plus or not?  I don't want to purchase anything with DRM.

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Re: ilife on 10.6?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
ILife will be on the DVD shipped with your machine.  So, if you do not  
receive Snow Leopard on the machine, you can simply perform an upgrade  
if you wish once you have SL.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:17 PM, a radix wrote:

 Hello my mac will be here by friday (i ordered just too early for  
 10.6 to be preinstalled) I wonder since I would like to use ilife  
 which will be preinstalled on my mac, will there be a separate cd  
 that contains just ilife? If not how can i install  it after i  
 installed 10.6?
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 Greetings, Anouk,

 


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Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth

I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going  
to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no  
sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly write a  
guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.  
obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the  
least.
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Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?

2009-08-24 Thread hank smith

does your hp all in 1 have a flat bed scanner as well?
if so what model?
Hank
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?



 Anouk, that is more the function of your scanners driver.  Unless the
 software by-passes the scanners driver, then you should be able to use
 the feeder.  I've used the feeder on my HP all-in-one with great
 success.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:25 PM, a radix wrote:


 Hello, I am wondering, i am thinking this will work with readiris
 pro but I
 am wondering if it does with vuescan too? My scanner has a
 sheetfeeder so it
 can scan 25-50 pages at once. I always use it this way i never scan
 loose
 pages, also my scanner has the capability (albeit not by scanning
 both sides
 at once) to scan both sides of a page wihtout you having to manually
 turn
 them.  I guess readiris supports this (i mean, it seems to be a
 major ocr
 package), but i wonder if vuescan can do this as well?
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?



 Hi,
 Well there are apparently different opinions about this, some say you
 can't some, (i), say you can. I'm currently using Vuescan, but i can
 to be honest, not see what difference it makes in scanning quality. I
 have a canon Lide 90 scanner and before i purchased Vuescan i used it
 successfully with Readiris but then i heard that the Vuescan/Readiris
 combo should be better. I don't know about that to be honest. I'm not
 saying that it isn't only that i haven't noticed any difference in
 quality. It's much easier to reach the scanning stuff, i.e the button
 to scan with in Vuescan though so i guess it's up to you to judge
 what
 works best.
 Sorry for the rambling.
 /Krister


 22 aug 2009 kl. 21.37 skrev a radix:

 Hello, Is it possible to use readiris pro with just your scanners
 driver or do you have to use vuescan?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,







 


  


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trackapd

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

hi can one buy a bluetooth enabled trackpad i wonder to use the 
new  
touchpad features on a macbook or imac that does not have the  
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Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas

when you boot up from the dvd by holding down c at startup as the mac  
boots, you will hear the drive spin. When it stops spinning press  
command key f5 and voiceover willc ome up and the first screen, I  
guess, will b, language chooser
WIll

On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:59, Marie Howarth wrote:


 I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going
 to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no
 sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly write a
 guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
 obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
 least.
 :)


 


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Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Dan

Hello,
 From what I've read, you will be able to select the different  
components of a site to read or scrol through.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:


 one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
 now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
 the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what
 it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
 sorry, but what do others think?


 


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Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch

Can you give some more details? What application were you in, what did 
you select and how did you select it?

CB

Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have noticed something that seems odd about the Cut command.  It  
 seems never to function.  It doesn't matter whether I use Command-X or  
 whether I go into the menus.  If I go into the menu, that option  
 simply shows as dimmed, even though I have an item selected.
 Likewise, if I press Command-X, nothing happens. Can anyone explain  
 this?
 Thanks,
 Donna

 
   

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Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Chesworth

Hey Marie,

Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people
who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people who
grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it
publically in case Steve Jobs and his heavies turn up at their house
with a big stick.

But having said that, it's safe to predict that VO will work during
the instalation, and that it'll be easy to do.
With Tiger and Leopard, the install was as simple as putting in your
OS dvd, booting up with the c key held down, waiting a few minutes
until the disc spins down so you know that everything has finished
loading from it, and launching VO with f/n-command-f5 on a laptop or
just command-f5 on a full keyboard.  You land in the language
selection table, which is set to some variety of English by default,
and from then on it's a pretty standard instalation wizard.  There are
usually a few different choices, you can repartition and format and
suchlike.  Archive and install is probably the safest choice if you've
got the disc space for that, it'll preserve a copy of your leopard
system libraries and such just in case the upgrade goes horribly
wrong.  VO stays functional throughout the upgrade process, you can
get feedback at any point, and I've never yet encountered an error
that it won't read during the process.

Past that, the only reassurance I can give you is that, having seen
your posts on list about other apps, you'll be fine with this.  It's a
peace of cake as they say.

hth
Scott

On 8/24/09, Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going
 to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no
 sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly write a
 guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
 obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
 least.
 :)


 


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Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

Yes it does, it is the OfficeJet Pro L7650 and it is a printer,  
scanner, and fax machine.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:13 PM, hank smith wrote:


 does your hp all in 1 have a flat bed scanner as well?
 if so what model?
 Hank
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?



 Anouk, that is more the function of your scanners driver.  Unless the
 software by-passes the scanners driver, then you should be able to  
 use
 the feeder.  I've used the feeder on my HP all-in-one with great
 success.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:25 PM, a radix wrote:


 Hello, I am wondering, i am thinking this will work with readiris
 pro but I
 am wondering if it does with vuescan too? My scanner has a
 sheetfeeder so it
 can scan 25-50 pages at once. I always use it this way i never scan
 loose
 pages, also my scanner has the capability (albeit not by scanning
 both sides
 at once) to scan both sides of a page wihtout you having to manually
 turn
 them.  I guess readiris supports this (i mean, it seems to be a
 major ocr
 package), but i wonder if vuescan can do this as well?
 Greetings, Anouk,
 - Original Message -
 From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?



 Hi,
 Well there are apparently different opinions about this, some say  
 you
 can't some, (i), say you can. I'm currently using Vuescan, but i  
 can
 to be honest, not see what difference it makes in scanning  
 quality. I
 have a canon Lide 90 scanner and before i purchased Vuescan i  
 used it
 successfully with Readiris but then i heard that the Vuescan/ 
 Readiris
 combo should be better. I don't know about that to be honest. I'm  
 not
 saying that it isn't only that i haven't noticed any difference in
 quality. It's much easier to reach the scanning stuff, i.e the  
 button
 to scan with in Vuescan though so i guess it's up to you to judge
 what
 works best.
 Sorry for the rambling.
 /Krister


 22 aug 2009 kl. 21.37 skrev a radix:

 Hello, Is it possible to use readiris pro with just your scanners
 driver or do you have to use vuescan?
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,













 


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Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

The cut command is not available in read-only boxes and lists. The  
copy command should be  available in this case. Also, I don't think  
cut is available in file browser, because generally a cut item is only  
in the paste-board once cut, and if you cut something else that file  
would be lost.  I wonder if any of the multi-cut buffer applications  
would enable cutting in the finder? I have never tried any of these  
add-ons.

Jonathan

On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hello all,

 I have noticed something that seems odd about the Cut command.  It
 seems never to function.  It doesn't matter whether I use Command-X or
 whether I go into the menus.  If I go into the menu, that option
 simply shows as dimmed, even though I have an item selected.
 Likewise, if I press Command-X, nothing happens. Can anyone explain
 this?
 Thanks,
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Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
OK, here's an exerpt from apple's accessibility page with snow leopard.

VoiceOver will begin reading an entire web page automatically

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/accessibility/
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Dan wrote:


 Hello,
 From what I've read, you will be able to select the different
 components of a site to read or scrol through.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:


 one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
 now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
 the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what
 it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
 sorry, but what do others think?





 


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Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

You don't need a guide at all.  In fact all you need to do is insert  
the DVD and either restart the machine and hold down the letter c  
until you hear the DVD begin being accessed by the Mac, insert the  
DVD, open System Preferences, select startup disk, and choose the Snow  
Leopard DVD, select restart, confirm you want to restart by selecting  
restart, and wait for the chime, and as with my previous steps, you  
wait for the DVD to stop spinning, you press command-f5 to launch  
VoiceOver. You also have the option to launch the installer on the  
DVD, which will basically perform the same steps as I explained and  
will reboot the machine for you.  Basically once the DVD has stopped  
spinning, you can press command-f5 or function-command-f5 for laptops,  
and VO will launch.
If any of my steps are confusing or you have questions, please let me  
know.  However, once VO is up and running, you'll have no problems at  
all installing/upgrading the os.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:


 I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going
 to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no
 sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly write a
 guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
 obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
 least.
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Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth

thanks for that scott. stupid question maybe, but I'm guessing you put  
the disc in then shut down then turn on with the disc in the drive,  
while holding down the c key yes? how much room we talking, I got over  
a hundred gig here as my music stuff is on an external.
:) thanks for any answers.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:


 Hey Marie,

 Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
 instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people
 who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people who
 grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it
 publically in case Steve Jobs and his heavies turn up at their house
 with a big stick.

 But having said that, it's safe to predict that VO will work during
 the instalation, and that it'll be easy to do.
 With Tiger and Leopard, the install was as simple as putting in your
 OS dvd, booting up with the c key held down, waiting a few minutes
 until the disc spins down so you know that everything has finished
 loading from it, and launching VO with f/n-command-f5 on a laptop or
 just command-f5 on a full keyboard.  You land in the language
 selection table, which is set to some variety of English by default,
 and from then on it's a pretty standard instalation wizard.  There are
 usually a few different choices, you can repartition and format and
 suchlike.  Archive and install is probably the safest choice if you've
 got the disc space for that, it'll preserve a copy of your leopard
 system libraries and such just in case the upgrade goes horribly
 wrong.  VO stays functional throughout the upgrade process, you can
 get feedback at any point, and I've never yet encountered an error
 that it won't read during the process.

 Past that, the only reassurance I can give you is that, having seen
 your posts on list about other apps, you'll be fine with this.  It's a
 peace of cake as they say.

 hth
 Scott

 On 8/24/09, Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going
 to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no
 sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly  
 write a
 guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
 obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
 least.
 :)





 


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Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

Ah, that explains it.  thanks, Jonathan.
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:


 The cut command is not available in read-only boxes and lists. The
 copy command should be  available in this case. Also, I don't think
 cut is available in file browser, because generally a cut item is only
 in the paste-board once cut, and if you cut something else that file
 would be lost.  I wonder if any of the multi-cut buffer applications
 would enable cutting in the finder? I have never tried any of these
 add-ons.

 Jonathan

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


 Hello all,

 I have noticed something that seems odd about the Cut command.  It
 seems never to function.  It doesn't matter whether I use Command-X  
 or
 whether I go into the menus.  If I go into the menu, that option
 simply shows as dimmed, even though I have an item selected.
 Likewise, if I press Command-X, nothing happens. Can anyone explain
 this?
 Thanks,
 Donna




 



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Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin

The one common thread I can find is that I was working with files,  
rather than selecting text.  So, I was selecting them by moving  
through the file table.  Whenever I went into the menu, I was always  
able to copy the file, and the file I wanted always showed up as being  
selected.  For any more specifics, I'm going to have to think about  
it, but let me know if there's more info that would be helpful.
Best,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Can you give some more details? What application were you in, what did
 you select and how did you select it?

 CB

 Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have noticed something that seems odd about the Cut command.  It
 seems never to function.  It doesn't matter whether I use Command-X  
 or
 whether I go into the menus.  If I go into the menu, that option
 simply shows as dimmed, even though I have an item selected.
 Likewise, if I press Command-X, nothing happens. Can anyone explain
 this?
 Thanks,
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Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Chesworth

You can start the upgrade the way you just said yep.  The other option
is to put the disc in, it'll appear in the finder, and there's a file
you can launch on there that'll be called something really obvious
like install snow leopard that will restart and boot from cd for
you.  Whichever works for ya.

Can't say I've ever checked the size of an archive, but I'd be
surprised if it's anything over 10 gb, so you should be fine.

Role on Friday, I'll be queueing like a fanboy as per usual, just in
the new Westfield store for a change of scenery lol.
Scott

On 8/24/09, Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks for that scott. stupid question maybe, but I'm guessing you put
 the disc in then shut down then turn on with the disc in the drive,
 while holding down the c key yes? how much room we talking, I got over
 a hundred gig here as my music stuff is on an external.
 :) thanks for any answers.

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:


 Hey Marie,

 Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
 instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people
 who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people who
 grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it
 publically in case Steve Jobs and his heavies turn up at their house
 with a big stick.

 But having said that, it's safe to predict that VO will work during
 the instalation, and that it'll be easy to do.
 With Tiger and Leopard, the install was as simple as putting in your
 OS dvd, booting up with the c key held down, waiting a few minutes
 until the disc spins down so you know that everything has finished
 loading from it, and launching VO with f/n-command-f5 on a laptop or
 just command-f5 on a full keyboard.  You land in the language
 selection table, which is set to some variety of English by default,
 and from then on it's a pretty standard instalation wizard.  There are
 usually a few different choices, you can repartition and format and
 suchlike.  Archive and install is probably the safest choice if you've
 got the disc space for that, it'll preserve a copy of your leopard
 system libraries and such just in case the upgrade goes horribly
 wrong.  VO stays functional throughout the upgrade process, you can
 get feedback at any point, and I've never yet encountered an error
 that it won't read during the process.

 Past that, the only reassurance I can give you is that, having seen
 your posts on list about other apps, you'll be fine with this.  It's a
 peace of cake as they say.

 hth
 Scott

 On 8/24/09, Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going
 to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no
 sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly
 write a
 guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
 obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
 least.
 :)





 


 


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Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread David Niemeijer

Hi,

I notice a lot people are complaining that Apple did not include the  
voices they now include with the iPhone 3Gs also in Snow Leopard.  
There may be a lot of reasons why they have not done that. I am not  
sure it is fair to say it is ridiculous of Apple without knowing the  
reasons behind it. Maybe the company they are licensing those voice  
from for the iPhone 3Gs is asking a ridiculously high amount per copy  
of Snow Leopard Apple will sell. Snow Leopard is sold much cheaper  
than most updates yet has been worked on for two years by a large team  
of engineers. I think that is nothing to sneeze at. Also, while people  
accept the lower quality of those voices for a mobile device, would  
the majority of Mac users accept it for Mac OS X on a desktop machine?  
Furthermore, do those voices support all the features needed for  
Speech Manager compatibility, or would that first require years of  
work? And, what about the third party voices? For Mac OS X there are  
multiple third party voices available for a wide range of languages.  
Should Apple just kill that business and possibly stifle innovation on  
the Mac platform in the voice area because voices in multiple  
languages already come free with the OS. For third parties it is hard  
to compete with free stuff, even if the third party stuff is of better  
quality. I know it would be bad for our business, but in the long run,  
it might actually also be bad for end-users. Things are not simply  
black or white.

Anyway, I think there may be plenty of reasons for Apple's decision  
that we as outsiders do not know about. Some of those reasons you and  
I might consider good others we might consider bad, but I personally  
do not think we know enough about the issues involved to call it  
ridiculous, especially after all Apple has been doing these last  
couple of years in the accessibility area.

Cheers,

david.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:04 PM, James  Nash wrote:
 The voices from Acapella are great but it's rediculous that Apple keep
 avoiding the answer on whether or not they will ever include other  
 language
 voices as they do in the IPhone. If they can do it in the IPhone  
 they can do
 so in Mac OS X 10.6 +. This is especiallly true considering that  
 they are
 based in California whre are large percentage of the population are  
 Spanish
 speaking. The same is true for Braille.


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Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Charlie Doremus
The following is copied directly from the Apple site.Find information fast
with auto web spots.

Many web pages are filled with complex design elements or lack useful HTML
tags, making them difficult to convey through a screen reader. So Apple
invented new technologies to comprehend and interpret the visual design of
web pages, then use the information to assign virtual tags called “auto web
spots” to mark important locations on the page. If you’re on a newspaper
website, for example, there might be an auto web spot for each lead story,
another for a box containing weather or sports scores, and so on. You can
jump from web spot to web spot with a keystroke or the flick of a finger.
And if there’s a particular feature on a site you visit often, you can
assign a “sweet spot” on that page so that VoiceOver will go there first
when the page opens.

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 one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
 now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
 the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what
 it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
 sorry, but what do others think?


 



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Re: trackapd

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

No, not at this time.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:24 PM, william lomas wrote:


   hi can one buy a bluetooth enabled trackpad i wonder to use the 
 new
 touchpad features on a macbook or imac that does not have the
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Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

First yes, if you reboot the machine, you of course will need to  
insert the DVD prior to booting. In fact in order for the Mac to boot  
off the DVD it needs to be in there in advance for you to hold down  
the c key or set it as the boot disk.  As far as space required, I am  
not sure of the exact space, but figure on around 10Gb or less, but no  
more than 12Gb total if all the languages are installed etc.
Either way, it's going to be less than the current version since  
printer drivers you don't need will not be installed.  Don't worry,  
you'll have plenty of space as long as you have at least 20 or so Gb  
free if you do the upgrade. Once things are running fine, you can  
delete the old system, which is backed up prior to the upgrade process.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:


 thanks for that scott. stupid question maybe, but I'm guessing you put
 the disc in then shut down then turn on with the disc in the drive,
 while holding down the c key yes? how much room we talking, I got over
 a hundred gig here as my music stuff is on an external.
 :) thanks for any answers.

 On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:


 Hey Marie,

 Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
 instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people
 who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people  
 who
 grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it
 publically in case Steve Jobs and his heavies turn up at their house
 with a big stick.

 But having said that, it's safe to predict that VO will work during
 the instalation, and that it'll be easy to do.
 With Tiger and Leopard, the install was as simple as putting in your
 OS dvd, booting up with the c key held down, waiting a few minutes
 until the disc spins down so you know that everything has finished
 loading from it, and launching VO with f/n-command-f5 on a laptop or
 just command-f5 on a full keyboard.  You land in the language
 selection table, which is set to some variety of English by default,
 and from then on it's a pretty standard instalation wizard.  There  
 are
 usually a few different choices, you can repartition and format and
 suchlike.  Archive and install is probably the safest choice if  
 you've
 got the disc space for that, it'll preserve a copy of your leopard
 system libraries and such just in case the upgrade goes horribly
 wrong.  VO stays functional throughout the upgrade process, you can
 get feedback at any point, and I've never yet encountered an error
 that it won't read during the process.

 Past that, the only reassurance I can give you is that, having seen
 your posts on list about other apps, you'll be fine with this.   
 It's a
 peace of cake as they say.

 hth
 Scott

 On 8/24/09, Marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is  
 going
 to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with  
 no
 sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly
 write a
 guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive.
 obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the
 least.
 :)








 


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Re: Some questions was Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell

Yes you will and you just have to have Leopard and someone already  
provided pricing.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:


 Hi everyone,
 I will not be able to order the new O/S until 1 September.  Will the
 special price still be in effect?  Also how do you go about getting
 the special price? Just order it or do you have to prove you have
 Leopard?
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acrobat reader accessible on mac?

2009-08-24 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux

Hi all,

Is the acrobat reader accessible for reading pdfs? Or do i have to  
revert to preview for those documents?

Thanks, and best

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skype and the chat frame

2009-08-24 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux

Hi everyone,

I've been using skype on the mac for about a month now, and everything  
is accessible, or the key paths have been memorized. I have a problem  
though while chatting. The chat frame doesn't refresh, and i have to  
close the chat window and reopen it again from the contact list to  
have an updated conversation.

Anyone stumble upon this problem? I have the latest skype release 2.8.

Some clarity would be well appreciated

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