Re: An introduction and a question

[Vaughn Brown]

Hello Ben,

I have no idea where you can get an app for that. However, I am excited that 
you joined. This is a great support group.

Welcome!

Vaughn
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 7:47 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the list, Ben!  We’re so glad to have you.
> 
> I’m personally not aware of anything, but seeing I’m the one who suggested 
> the list to you, I wanted to at least extend my welcome.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 5:23 AM, ben J. Bloomgren  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> My name is Ben Bloomgren, and I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I just recently 
>> returned to iOS with the acquisition of a new iPhone 6s. I am really liking 
>> iOS, and I am really seeing potential for 3D Touch. Anyway, I've got a 
>> question about sleep tracking apps.
>> 
>> Has anybody used an app to track sleep patterns? I installed Argus by 
>> Azumio, but the alarm area is completely inaccessible due to the need to 
>> scroll around a clock. Please note, that I am not referring to sleep help 
>> apps that use soundscapes necessary to help you get to sleep. I literally 
>> want to put the iPhone by my pillow, and use the accelerometer to determine 
>> how my sleep cycle is.
>> 
>> I am excited to contribute to this list. Thank you.
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
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An introduction and a question

[ben J. Bloomgren]

Hello all,

My name is Ben Bloomgren, and I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I just recently 
returned to iOS with the acquisition of a new iPhone 6s. I am really liking 
iOS, and I am really seeing potential for 3D Touch. Anyway, I've got a question 
about sleep tracking apps.

Has anybody used an app to track sleep patterns? I installed Argus by Azumio, 
but the alarm area is completely inaccessible due to the need to scroll around 
a clock. Please note, that I am not referring to sleep help apps that use 
soundscapes necessary to help you get to sleep. I literally want to put the 
iPhone by my pillow, and use the accelerometer to determine how my sleep cycle 
is.

I am excited to contribute to this list. Thank you.

Ben

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Re: An introduction and a question

[Chris Gilland]

Welcome to the list, Ben!  We’re so glad to have you.

I’m personally not aware of anything, but seeing I’m the one who suggested the 
list to you, I wanted to at least extend my welcome.

Take care.

Chris.

> On Jan 22, 2016, at 5:23 AM, ben J. Bloomgren  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> My name is Ben Bloomgren, and I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I just recently 
> returned to iOS with the acquisition of a new iPhone 6s. I am really liking 
> iOS, and I am really seeing potential for 3D Touch. Anyway, I've got a 
> question about sleep tracking apps.
> 
> Has anybody used an app to track sleep patterns? I installed Argus by Azumio, 
> but the alarm area is completely inaccessible due to the need to scroll 
> around a clock. Please note, that I am not referring to sleep help apps that 
> use soundscapes necessary to help you get to sleep. I literally want to put 
> the iPhone by my pillow, and use the accelerometer to determine how my sleep 
> cycle is.
> 
> I am excited to contribute to this list. Thank you.
> 
> Ben
> 
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Re: Introduction

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Kawal,

I have not experienced this.
Best,
Donna
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Those of you have the watch, does it tell you to stand when you are standing? 
  I haven't turned mine off but sometimes it doesn't know when I'm walking or 
 standing.
 
 As soon as the newer model of the watch comes out, I'll sell the one I have 
 as I have the same model as Donna's and then next time I'll go for the 
 stainless steal one as I bought the Loop not liking the rubber strap which 
 came with the sports model.
 
 Very happy with the watch though Scott and agree with all the points made 
 thus far.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Kawal.
 On 17 Aug 2015, at 14:39, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Initially I thought the same thing you did, that I would wait till the next 
 gen.  But I wanted something to use for working out, and there were things I 
 didn't like about my Fitbit, so I decided to go ahead.
 
 I went with the 38.5 aluminum model.  I may go with the stainless steel next 
 time, but since I was pretty sure I'm going to want to replace this one when 
 the next generation comes out, I wanted to go as cheap as I could this 
 go-round.  My battery life is the same as George's.  I charge it every night 
 when I go to bed, but it's at about 50% when I put it on the charger, so if I 
 had to go two days, I probably could.  I agree that it would be nice if it 
 functioned more independently of the phone.  I went out of town a few 
 weekends back, and actually ran off without my phone.  (Can I just say, it 
 was awful Addicted to my phone, n, certainly not me!: lol Anyway, 
 it would certainly have been nice had my watch been able to function more 
 without the phone that weekend.  Another thing I wish is that it monitored 
 flights of steps climbed like the phone does.  A small point, I realize, but 
 it's on my wish list.
 
 One thing I will say from a blindness perspective, is that i'll probably 
 never completely give up my braille watch.  I have enough situations in my 
 life where I want to be able to check the time soundlessly--either because I 
 don't want others knowing I'm checking, or because I don't want the noise to 
 disturb someone else, that I do still have my braille watch for those 
 occasions.
 
 I will let you know my take on the next release, but in the meantime, I'd say 
 go for it!
 Cheers,
 Donna  
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, this is interesting.  You’ll have toilet us know how you like watch 
 OS 2 when it comes out next month.  I held out and didn’t buy the watch 
 thinking that I should wait until it’s at least a generation or so in.  I’d 
 really like to see the watch function more separate of the phone but still I 
 like the idea of having an extension of the phone to use on my wrist.
 
 Which model of the watch did you go with?
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Not Wayne, but I'll weigh in on the Apple Watch.  I absolutely love it!  It 
 is a first-gen product, so still has some quirks, but I have found it very 
 useful.  It is slower to navigate than the iPhone, because you have to do 
 more swiping or turning to get through all the information.  But that said, 
 I love being able to get notifications on my wrist.  I love being able to 
 answer calls and respond to texts.  that may be kind of a girl thing, but 
 my phone is very rarely on my person.  It's either in my purse, on a table 
 in the next room, etc.  So being able to just do that stuff from the watch 
 is really handy.  You also don't have to worry about not hearing your phone 
 when you get a text or a call.  I also use it to time and track info when I 
 work out, which has been really helpful..  Obviously the speaker on the 
 watch is pretty small, but I don't have difficulty hearing it in most 
 environments.  I think Apple's done a really good job of pumping a lot of 
 volume out of the thing.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or 
 more of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s 
 perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at 
 home do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence 
 but not on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch 
 and a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott 

Re: Introduction

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scott,

Initially I thought the same thing you did, that I would wait till the next 
gen.  But I wanted something to use for working out, and there were things I 
didn't like about my Fitbit, so I decided to go ahead.

I went with the 38.5 aluminum model.  I may go with the stainless steel next 
time, but since I was pretty sure I'm going to want to replace this one when 
the next generation comes out, I wanted to go as cheap as I could this 
go-round.  My battery life is the same as George's.  I charge it every night 
when I go to bed, but it's at about 50% when I put it on the charger, so if I 
had to go two days, I probably could.  I agree that it would be nice if it 
functioned more independently of the phone.  I went out of town a few weekends 
back, and actually ran off without my phone.  (Can I just say, it was awful 
Addicted to my phone, n, certainly not me!: lol Anyway, it would 
certainly have been nice had my watch been able to function more without the 
phone that weekend.  Another thing I wish is that it monitored flights of steps 
climbed like the phone does.  A small point, I realize, but it's on my wish 
list.

One thing I will say from a blindness perspective, is that i'll probably never 
completely give up my braille watch.  I have enough situations in my life where 
I want to be able to check the time soundlessly--either because I don't want 
others knowing I'm checking, or because I don't want the noise to disturb 
someone else, that I do still have my braille watch for those occasions.

I will let you know my take on the next release, but in the meantime, I'd say 
go for it!
Cheers,
Donna  
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, this is interesting.  You’ll have toilet us know how you like watch OS 
 2 when it comes out next month.  I held out and didn’t buy the watch thinking 
 that I should wait until it’s at least a generation or so in.  I’d really 
 like to see the watch function more separate of the phone but still I like 
 the idea of having an extension of the phone to use on my wrist.
 
 Which model of the watch did you go with?
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Not Wayne, but I'll weigh in on the Apple Watch.  I absolutely love it!  It 
 is a first-gen product, so still has some quirks, but I have found it very 
 useful.  It is slower to navigate than the iPhone, because you have to do 
 more swiping or turning to get through all the information.  But that said, 
 I love being able to get notifications on my wrist.  I love being able to 
 answer calls and respond to texts.  that may be kind of a girl thing, but my 
 phone is very rarely on my person.  It's either in my purse, on a table in 
 the next room, etc.  So being able to just do that stuff from the watch is 
 really handy.  You also don't have to worry about not hearing your phone 
 when you get a text or a call.  I also use it to time and track info when I 
 work out, which has been really helpful..  Obviously the speaker on the 
 watch is pretty small, but I don't have difficulty hearing it in most 
 environments.  I think Apple's done a really good job of pumping a lot of 
 volume out of the thing.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or 
 more of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s 
 perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been 
 a Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way 
 to learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or 
 maybe use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on 
 your Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. 

Re: Introduction

[Scott Granados]

Donna, this is interesting.  You’ll have toilet us know how you like watch OS 2 
when it comes out next month.  I held out and didn’t buy the watch thinking 
that I should wait until it’s at least a generation or so in.  I’d really like 
to see the watch function more separate of the phone but still I like the idea 
of having an extension of the phone to use on my wrist.

Which model of the watch did you go with?

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Not Wayne, but I'll weigh in on the Apple Watch.  I absolutely love it!  It 
 is a first-gen product, so still has some quirks, but I have found it very 
 useful.  It is slower to navigate than the iPhone, because you have to do 
 more swiping or turning to get through all the information.  But that said, I 
 love being able to get notifications on my wrist.  I love being able to 
 answer calls and respond to texts.  that may be kind of a girl thing, but my 
 phone is very rarely on my person.  It's either in my purse, on a table in 
 the next room, etc.  So being able to just do that stuff from the watch is 
 really handy.  You also don't have to worry about not hearing your phone when 
 you get a text or a call.  I also use it to time and track info when I work 
 out, which has been really helpful..  Obviously the speaker on the watch is 
 pretty small, but I don't have difficulty hearing it in most environments.  I 
 think Apple's done a really good job of pumping a lot of volume out of the 
 thing.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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RE: Introduction

[george b]

Scott,

I really like the watch.  I get all my baseball info rite away with a tap on 
the rist and and a ping and there it is like what team I am following when they 
score and etc.

Another nice thing is when you are connectted to the watch the only time you 
hear your phone is when a call comes in the phone rings along with the watch.

I will let you know how it is when the v. 2 of the I o s comes out next month.

Also, I get 2 days of battery with the watch and I use it all day.

It is also great for navigation for us blind guys!

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 05:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction

Donna, this is interesting.  You’ll have toilet us know how you like watch OS 2 
when it comes out next month.  I held out and didn’t buy the watch thinking 
that I should wait until it’s at least a generation or so in.  I’d really like 
to see the watch function more separate of the phone but still I like the idea 
of having an extension of the phone to use on my wrist.

Which model of the watch did you go with?

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Not Wayne, but I'll weigh in on the Apple Watch.  I absolutely love it!  It 
 is a first-gen product, so still has some quirks, but I have found it very 
 useful.  It is slower to navigate than the iPhone, because you have to do 
 more swiping or turning to get through all the information.  But that said, I 
 love being able to get notifications on my wrist.  I love being able to 
 answer calls and respond to texts.  that may be kind of a girl thing, but my 
 phone is very rarely on my person.  It's either in my purse, on a table in 
 the next room, etc.  So being able to just do that stuff from the watch is 
 really handy.  You also don't have to worry about not hearing your phone when 
 you get a text or a call.  I also use it to time and track info when I work 
 out, which has been really helpful..  Obviously the speaker on the watch is 
 pretty small, but I don't have difficulty hearing it in most environments.  I 
 think Apple's done a really good job of pumping a lot of volume out of the 
 thing.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

All,

Those of you have the watch, does it tell you to stand when you are standing?  
I haven't turned mine off but sometimes it doesn't know when I'm walking or 
standing.

As soon as the newer model of the watch comes out, I'll sell the one I have as 
I have the same model as Donna's and then next time I'll go for the stainless 
steal one as I bought the Loop not liking the rubber strap which came with the 
sports model.

Very happy with the watch though Scott and agree with all the points made thus 
far.

Thank you.

Kawal.
On 17 Aug 2015, at 14:39, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hey Scott,

Initially I thought the same thing you did, that I would wait till the next 
gen.  But I wanted something to use for working out, and there were things I 
didn't like about my Fitbit, so I decided to go ahead.

I went with the 38.5 aluminum model.  I may go with the stainless steel next 
time, but since I was pretty sure I'm going to want to replace this one when 
the next generation comes out, I wanted to go as cheap as I could this 
go-round.  My battery life is the same as George's.  I charge it every night 
when I go to bed, but it's at about 50% when I put it on the charger, so if I 
had to go two days, I probably could.  I agree that it would be nice if it 
functioned more independently of the phone.  I went out of town a few weekends 
back, and actually ran off without my phone.  (Can I just say, it was awful 
Addicted to my phone, n, certainly not me!: lol Anyway, it would 
certainly have been nice had my watch been able to function more without the 
phone that weekend.  Another thing I wish is that it monitored flights of steps 
climbed like the phone does.  A small point, I realize, but it's on my wish 
list.

One thing I will say from a blindness perspective, is that i'll probably never 
completely give up my braille watch.  I have enough situations in my life where 
I want to be able to check the time soundlessly--either because I don't want 
others knowing I'm checking, or because I don't want the noise to disturb 
someone else, that I do still have my braille watch for those occasions.

I will let you know my take on the next release, but in the meantime, I'd say 
go for it!
Cheers,
Donna  
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, this is interesting.  You’ll have toilet us know how you like watch OS 
 2 when it comes out next month.  I held out and didn’t buy the watch thinking 
 that I should wait until it’s at least a generation or so in.  I’d really 
 like to see the watch function more separate of the phone but still I like 
 the idea of having an extension of the phone to use on my wrist.
 
 Which model of the watch did you go with?
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Not Wayne, but I'll weigh in on the Apple Watch.  I absolutely love it!  It 
 is a first-gen product, so still has some quirks, but I have found it very 
 useful.  It is slower to navigate than the iPhone, because you have to do 
 more swiping or turning to get through all the information.  But that said, 
 I love being able to get notifications on my wrist.  I love being able to 
 answer calls and respond to texts.  that may be kind of a girl thing, but my 
 phone is very rarely on my person.  It's either in my purse, on a table in 
 the next room, etc.  So being able to just do that stuff from the watch is 
 really handy.  You also don't have to worry about not hearing your phone 
 when you get a text or a call.  I also use it to time and track info when I 
 work out, which has been really helpful..  Obviously the speaker on the 
 watch is pretty small, but I don't have difficulty hearing it in most 
 environments.  I think Apple's done a really good job of pumping a lot of 
 volume out of the thing.
 HTH,
 Donna
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or 
 more of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s 
 perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been 
 a Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, 

Re: Introduction

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Indeed I have.  Tuesdays I feel very comfortable using it even though I spend 8 
hours a day using the Windows platform at work.
On 13 Aug 2015, at 03:43, percygarrett percygarr...@sw.rr.com wrote:

You have been using the MAC since 2110?
Percy

- Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com
To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Introduction


I too wish you well with your Mac.

I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do not 
use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on my Mac.

I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hey Scott,

Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
Cheers,
Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe use 
 your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac but 
 that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make some 
 serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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RE: Introduction

[george b]

Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love it

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction

Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more of 
a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.


 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
 work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
 not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on my 
 Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
 Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac 
 but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make 
 some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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[Scott Granados]

Ah wow it’s been a while.  Trying to get the hang of Braille on the Mac and I’m 
learning it’s not that far along.

Hope you’ve been well and thanks for the kind welcome.

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac 
 but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make 
 some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Scott Granados]

Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more of 
a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.


 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
 work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
 not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on my 
 Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
 Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac 
 but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make 
 some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Shaf]

It's extremely, extremely slow to navigate.
I spent an hour with it at the Apple store and hate it.
You also cannot hear it in a noisy environment unless you ware a
bluetooth headset all the time.

On 8/13/2015 2:06 PM, george b wrote:
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:

 I too wish you well with your Mac.

 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
 work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
 not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on 
 my Mac.

 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
 Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.

 Thanks.

 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hey Scott,

 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll 
 make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.

 Good luck and ask away.

 Thanks
 Scott

 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.

 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX

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Re: Introduction

[Pete Nalda]

I don't know why a discussion of Applewatch would be not welcomed here. It is 
iOS, and an extension of your iPhone, and, thus your Mac even. I'd love to hear 
about it too! Especially from the stand point of a zoom user. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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Facebook.com/lpnalda
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 On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:06 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
 work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
 not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on 
 my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
 Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll 
 make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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RE: Introduction

[george b]

I was not trying to say the watch was not allowed here.  I am a good friend and 
was just telling him to contact me offline

Sory for the mis understanding

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 07:17
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction

I don't know why a discussion of Applewatch would be not welcomed here. It is 
iOS, and an extension of your iPhone, and, thus your Mac even. I'd love to hear 
about it too! Especially from the stand point of a zoom user. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:06 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
 work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
 not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on 
 my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
 Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll 
 make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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 www.wayneism.com
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RE: Introduction

[george b]

What would you like to know 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 07:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction

Oh. Ok. But if you did want to discuss here, it'd be interesting :)

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was not trying to say the watch was not allowed here.  I am a good friend 
 and was just telling him to contact me offline
 
 Sory for the mis understanding
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 07:17
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 I don't know why a discussion of Applewatch would be not welcomed here. It is 
 iOS, and an extension of your iPhone, and, thus your Mac even. I'd love to 
 hear about it too! Especially from the stand point of a zoom user. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 MySpace.com/musikonalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:06 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love 
 it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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 www.twitter.com/wcmerritt
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Re: Introduction

[Pete Nalda]

I am starting to use a Bluetooth headset more and more with my iPhone, but I've 
also heard the Plantronics Backbeat Fit phones I have may have issues with 
apple watch, so I hope someone out there has used this model. 

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 On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's extremely, extremely slow to navigate.
 I spent an hour with it at the Apple store and hate it.
 You also cannot hear it in a noisy environment unless you ware a
 bluetooth headset all the time.
 
 On 8/13/2015 2:06 PM, george b wrote:
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love 
 it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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 www.twitter.com/wcmerritt
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Re: Introduction

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scott,

Not Wayne, but I'll weigh in on the Apple Watch.  I absolutely love it!  It is 
a first-gen product, so still has some quirks, but I have found it very useful. 
 It is slower to navigate than the iPhone, because you have to do more swiping 
or turning to get through all the information.  But that said, I love being 
able to get notifications on my wrist.  I love being able to answer calls and 
respond to texts.  that may be kind of a girl thing, but my phone is very 
rarely on my person.  It's either in my purse, on a table in the next room, 
etc.  So being able to just do that stuff from the watch is really handy.  You 
also don't have to worry about not hearing your phone when you get a text or a 
call.  I also use it to time and track info when I work out, which has been 
really helpful..  Obviously the speaker on the watch is pretty small, but I 
don't have difficulty hearing it in most environments.  I think Apple's done a 
really good job of pumping a lot of volume out of the thing.
HTH,
Donna
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
 work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
 not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on 
 my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
 Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll 
 make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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[Pete Nalda]

Oh. Ok. But if you did want to discuss here, it'd be interesting :)

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Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was not trying to say the watch was not allowed here.  I am a good friend 
 and was just telling him to contact me offline
 
 Sory for the mis understanding
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 07:17
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 I don't know why a discussion of Applewatch would be not welcomed here. It is 
 iOS, and an extension of your iPhone, and, thus your Mac even. I'd love to 
 hear about it too! Especially from the stand point of a zoom user. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 MySpace.com/musikonalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:06 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love 
 it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or more 
 of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
 use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
 Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Pete Nalda]

One thing I'm curious about, would those of you with low vision find using Zoom 
on it as easy as using VO?  like I said, I do have a Bluetooth headset, but 
even with my iOS device find it easier to use Zoom or even large bold text in 
some cases. I'm thinking I'll take my Bluetooth headset in and ask if I can 
pair the watch, that way I can really see what's better. How is dictation for 
quick replies? Is there a favorite app page or do you always have to search in 
the big app wheel?  Are weather apps good on the watch? 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:29 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What would you like to know 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 07:23
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Oh. Ok. But if you did want to discuss here, it'd be interesting :)
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 MySpace.com/musikonalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was not trying to say the watch was not allowed here.  I am a good friend 
 and was just telling him to contact me offline
 
 Sory for the mis understanding
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 07:17
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 I don't know why a discussion of Applewatch would be not welcomed here. It 
 is iOS, and an extension of your iPhone, and, thus your Mac even. I'd love 
 to hear about it too! Especially from the stand point of a zoom user. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 MySpace.com/musikonalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:06 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scott you can write me off line and I can tell you about the watch.  I love 
 it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 04:54
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction
 
 Could you talk more about the Apple Watch?  How is it?  Is it useful or 
 more of a gimmick?  Would be interested in the watch from a user’s 
 perspective.
 
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I too wish you well with your Mac.
 
 I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows 
 at work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home 
 do not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not 
 on my Mac.
 
 I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and 
 a Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Scott,
 
 Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been 
 a Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way 
 to learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or 
 maybe use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on 
 your Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and 
 you’ll make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[percygarrett]

You have been using the MAC since 2110?
Percy

- Original Message - 
From: Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com

To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Introduction


I too wish you well with your Mac.

I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do 
not use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on 
my Mac.


I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.


Thanks.

Kawal.
On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hey Scott,

Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe 
use your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your 
Mac but that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll 
make some serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.


Good luck and ask away.

Thanks
Scott


On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.

Best,
Wayne Merritt
Austin, TX

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Re: Introduction

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Welcome to the list.
Hope you will have a lot of fun with your mac.
/A
 11 aug. 2015 kl. 22:23 skrev Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scott,

Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
Cheers,
Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe use 
 your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac but 
 that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make some 
 serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Scott Granados]

Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a Mac 
user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to learn the 
Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe use your 
windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac but that’s 
it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make some serious 
headway.  That’s how I had to do it.

Good luck and ask away.

Thanks
Scott

 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Re: Introduction

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I too wish you well with your Mac.

I have been using a Mac since 2110 but unfortunately, have to use Windows at 
work.  It took me a very long time to feel at home on a Mac and at home do not 
use Windows even though I have the latest VM Fusion licence but not on my Mac.

I love the Apple devices and have an I phone 6 plus and an Apple Watch and a 
Mac Mini also along with my I Mac.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 12 Aug 2015, at 13:49, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hey Scott,

Just wanted to welcome you to the list as well.  Good to see you here!
Cheers,
Donna
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados scott.grana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne, welcome to the list.  I just joined my self although I’ve been a 
 Mac user now for 6 years or so.  I would agree with Alex, the best way to 
 learn the Mac is to just cut your self off entirely from Windows or maybe use 
 your windows device to play a podcast and work along with it on your Mac but 
 that’s it.  Force yourself to switch as much as possible and you’ll make some 
 serious headway.  That’s how I had to do it.
 
 Good luck and ask away.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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Introduction

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.

Best,
Wayne Merritt
Austin, TX

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Re: Introduction

[Alex Hall]

Welcome, Wayne. I've seen you on other lists, and I'm glad you've joined the 
ranks of the Mac users!

My best advice, honestly, is to ditch Windows as much as possible. I got my 
first Mac in 2011, and mostly used Windows for the next year. It wasn't until a 
series of unfortunate events killed my Windows screen reader for about five 
weeks, forcing me to use the Mac exclusively, that I finally started getting a 
handle on things. After that, my conversion was swift and complete, and now I 
hate using Windows because it never works right. The best thing that happened 
to me was suddenly having Windows yanked out from under me for a month, and if 
you can do the same thing, I'd recommend doing it. Of course, you should know 
the basics first, and if your work would be affected, that's a whole other 
matter. If you can, though, learn the essentials of VoiceOver and then dive in.
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I am a new subscriber to this list. I bought my first
 Mac about 10 days ago. I have used Windows for the last 16 years and
 this is my first journey into the Mac. I got an early 2015 MacBook
 Pro, 256 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM, and 2.7 processor. I am totally
 blind and use VoiceOver and wanted a computer that my sighted wife and
 I could share, as well as one that I wouldn't have to replace after
 2-4 years. I have an iPhone 6 and have used iOS for about 4.5 years.
 Anyway, wanted to offer an intro and to say be ready for lots of
 questions from a beginner, grin. I am getting the hang of using the
 Mac but there are plenty of places that I get frustrated and revert
 back to my Windows 7 laptop since that is what I know.
 
 Best,
 Wayne Merritt
 Austin, TX
 
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 www.twitter.com/wcmerritt
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Introduction and some questions

[Dewald Gmail]

Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa. 
Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list. 
I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology. 
I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal on Best 
Buy. 
I was still in the US by that time. 
Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but yet, I 
have turned my back on Windows for good. 

When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 system 
dialogues.
And it will repeat it a couple of times.
Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues. 

What is this?

About the notification center: 
do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a way for 
it to do it automatically? 

Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or what, but 
like using something that doesn't even need a connection it will say busy busy 
busy, ready. Very irritating. 

They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound. 
So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, then 
release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can hold in the 
command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between windows. 

And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it possible and 
can someone email me off-list to help.

Thank you very very much for any help. 
I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it. 
Just a short amuzing story. 
I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
printer, copier and scanner. 
I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print something. 
I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried to 
install it, it ended up giving me an error. 
While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, the 
machine was spitting out paper. 
I was dum-founded. 
You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?  
That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with Voiceover. 
Amazing! 

Thank you,
God bless, 
Dewald. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Introduction and some questions

[Edward Green]

Hi Dewald,

Good to have you on the list.

The Mac often displays warning messages in what Voiceover describes as System 
Dialogs.  These can range from backups not having been performed for a few 
days, through to low battery notifications.  In short, they’re worth dealing 
with.

In order to get to them, press VO f1 f1, or in other words, hold down control 
and option, and press f1 twice quickly.  This will put you in a list of running 
applications, use the up and down arrows until you hear ‘system dialog’.  
Pressing enter will put you in a list of the various system dialogs you have 
running, press enter on one of them and explore it using VO left and right 
arrows.  Note that the buttons to dismiss them (often close or ok) can appear 
at either the far left or far right of the dialog, depending on what the dialog 
is.

Cheers,

Ed
 On 11 Jul 2015, at 08:21, Dewald Gmail dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa. 
 Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list. 
 I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology. 
 I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal on 
 Best Buy. 
 I was still in the US by that time. 
 Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but yet, 
 I have turned my back on Windows for good. 
 
 When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 system 
 dialogues.
 And it will repeat it a couple of times.
 Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues. 
 
 What is this?
 
 About the notification center: 
 do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a way 
 for it to do it automatically? 
 
 Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or what, 
 but like using something that doesn't even need a connection it will say busy 
 busy busy, ready. Very irritating. 
 
 They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
 Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound. 
 So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, then 
 release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can hold in the 
 command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between windows. 
 
 And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it possible 
 and can someone email me off-list to help.
 
 Thank you very very much for any help. 
 I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it. 
 Just a short amuzing story. 
 I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
 printer, copier and scanner. 
 I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print something. 
 I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried to 
 install it, it ended up giving me an error. 
 While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
 connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, the 
 machine was spitting out paper. 
 I was dum-founded. 
 You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?  
 That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with Voiceover. 
 Amazing! 
 
 Thank you,
 God bless, 
 Dewald. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Introduction and some questions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I do indeed use Scribiner.

Can I help you with anything specifically?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dewald Gmail dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:21 AM
Subject: Introduction and some questions



Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa.
Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list.
I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology.
I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal on 
Best Buy.

I was still in the US by that time.
Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but 
yet, I have turned my back on Windows for good.


When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 
system dialogues.

And it will repeat it a couple of times.
Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues.

What is this?

About the notification center:
do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a way 
for it to do it automatically?


Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or what, 
but like using something that doesn't even need a connection it will say 
busy busy busy, ready. Very irritating.


They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound.
So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, 
then release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can hold 
in the command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between windows.


And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it possible 
and can someone email me off-list to help.


Thank you very very much for any help.
I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it.
Just a short amuzing story.
I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
printer, copier and scanner.
I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print 
something.
I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried 
to install it, it ended up giving me an error.
While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, 
the machine was spitting out paper.

I was dum-founded.
You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?
That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with Voiceover.
Amazing!

Thank you,
God bless,
Dewald.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Introduction and some questions

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

about the notifications, you can go to your syste preferences, then you can 
shoos what kind of notifications you want to show when you receive on your 
computer. about the printinter, when i attach my epson computer to my mac, it 
automatically detects the driver and install it.
 On 11 Jul 2015, at 9:21 AM, Dewald Gmail dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa. 
 Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list. 
 I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology. 
 I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal on 
 Best Buy. 
 I was still in the US by that time. 
 Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but yet, 
 I have turned my back on Windows for good. 
 
 When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 system 
 dialogues.
 And it will repeat it a couple of times.
 Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues. 
 
 What is this?
 
 About the notification center: 
 do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a way 
 for it to do it automatically? 
 
 Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or what, 
 but like using something that doesn't even need a connection it will say busy 
 busy busy, ready. Very irritating. 
 
 They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
 Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound. 
 So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, then 
 release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can hold in the 
 command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between windows. 
 
 And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it possible 
 and can someone email me off-list to help.
 
 Thank you very very much for any help. 
 I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it. 
 Just a short amuzing story. 
 I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
 printer, copier and scanner. 
 I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print something. 
 I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried to 
 install it, it ended up giving me an error. 
 While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
 connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, the 
 machine was spitting out paper. 
 I was dum-founded. 
 You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?  
 That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with Voiceover. 
 Amazing! 
 
 Thank you,
 God bless, 
 Dewald. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Introduction and some questions

[Dewald Gmail]

Hi Chris. I guess it's just navigating around the complex interface. Do you use 
keyboard shortcuts to jump from the table to the text etc? 
I think it's probably just different to use than a normal word processor. 
If you can just explain what you put in the table. Do you add folders or 
headings in the table and then scenes underneath? 
How do you use it?
And do you use the inspector?
Is there any training material online that helped you?
I know there's the Learn Scrivener fast but it's very expensive and not sure 
if the video's are worth listening too. 

Thanks.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I do indeed use Scribiner.
 
 Can I help you with anything specifically?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dewald Gmail 
 dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:21 AM
 Subject: Introduction and some questions
 
 
 Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa.
 Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list.
 I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology.
 I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal on 
 Best Buy.
 I was still in the US by that time.
 Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but 
 yet, I have turned my back on Windows for good.
 
 When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 system 
 dialogues.
 And it will repeat it a couple of times.
 Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues.
 
 What is this?
 
 About the notification center:
 do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a way 
 for it to do it automatically?
 
 Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or what, 
 but like using something that doesn't even need a connection it will say 
 busy busy busy, ready. Very irritating.
 
 They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
 Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound.
 So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, then 
 release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can hold in the 
 command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between windows.
 
 And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it possible 
 and can someone email me off-list to help.
 
 Thank you very very much for any help.
 I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it.
 Just a short amuzing story.
 I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
 printer, copier and scanner.
 I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print something.
 I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried to 
 install it, it ended up giving me an error.
 While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
 connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, the 
 machine was spitting out paper.
 I was dum-founded.
 You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?
 That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with Voiceover.
 Amazing!
 
 Thank you,
 God bless,
 Dewald.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Introduction and some questions

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I just used the documentation that came with the app.  I found it to be more 
than sufficient.  It said to read it before getting started, so I took their 
advice and did so.  It took me about an hour or so to get through it, but it 
was worth it.


Yes, I do add folders and files underneath.  That is the whole idea behind 
scribiner.  Were you under the impression that this was a word processor? 
It's not!  I mean, it is in a sense, but not really.  This is made more for 
writers as myself who need software to help them compile their ideas for 
their books, etc.  Yes, I do use the inspector, but it would be entirely too 
much to teach you everything about it over an e-mail.  I really really do 
think your best bet is going to be to open up that interactive getting 
started guide that comes with the app, and just go through it at your own 
pace, like I did.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dewald Gmail dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: Introduction and some questions


Hi Chris. I guess it's just navigating around the complex interface. Do 
you use keyboard shortcuts to jump from the table to the text etc?

I think it's probably just different to use than a normal word processor.
If you can just explain what you put in the table. Do you add folders or 
headings in the table and then scenes underneath?

How do you use it?
And do you use the inspector?
Is there any training material online that helped you?
I know there's the Learn Scrivener fast but it's very expensive and not 
sure if the video's are worth listening too.


Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I do indeed use Scribiner.

Can I help you with anything specifically?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dewald Gmail 
dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:21 AM
Subject: Introduction and some questions



Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa.
Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list.
I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology.
I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal 
on Best Buy.

I was still in the US by that time.
Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but 
yet, I have turned my back on Windows for good.


When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 
system dialogues.

And it will repeat it a couple of times.
Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues.

What is this?

About the notification center:
do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a 
way for it to do it automatically?


Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or 
what, but like using something that doesn't even need a connection it 
will say busy busy busy, ready. Very irritating.


They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound.
So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, 
then release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can 
hold in the command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between 
windows.


And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it 
possible and can someone email me off-list to help.


Thank you very very much for any help.
I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it.
Just a short amuzing story.
I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
printer, copier and scanner.
I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print 
something.
I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried 
to install it, it ended up giving me an error.
While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, 
the machine was spitting out paper.

I was dum-founded.
You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?
That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with 
Voiceover.

Amazing!

Thank you,
God bless,
Dewald.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Introduction and some questions

[Dewald Gmail]

Hi Chris. Yes, about that tutorial. I opened it up today. Did what they said in 
the first screen, and now, whenever I open the tutorial, instead of displaying 
the document text, now Voiceover just says Empty scrollbar. 
And I can't think what is wrong. The composer mode doesn't want to work. 


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 12, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just used the documentation that came with the app.  I found it to be more 
 than sufficient.  It said to read it before getting started, so I took their 
 advice and did so.  It took me about an hour or so to get through it, but it 
 was worth it.
 
 Yes, I do add folders and files underneath.  That is the whole idea behind 
 scribiner.  Were you under the impression that this was a word processor? 
 It's not!  I mean, it is in a sense, but not really.  This is made more for 
 writers as myself who need software to help them compile their ideas for 
 their books, etc.  Yes, I do use the inspector, but it would be entirely too 
 much to teach you everything about it over an e-mail.  I really really do 
 think your best bet is going to be to open up that interactive getting 
 started guide that comes with the app, and just go through it at your own 
 pace, like I did.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dewald Gmail 
 dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 6:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Introduction and some questions
 
 
 Hi Chris. I guess it's just navigating around the complex interface. Do you 
 use keyboard shortcuts to jump from the table to the text etc?
 I think it's probably just different to use than a normal word processor.
 If you can just explain what you put in the table. Do you add folders or 
 headings in the table and then scenes underneath?
 How do you use it?
 And do you use the inspector?
 Is there any training material online that helped you?
 I know there's the Learn Scrivener fast but it's very expensive and not 
 sure if the video's are worth listening too.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I do indeed use Scribiner.
 
 Can I help you with anything specifically?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dewald Gmail 
 dewaldvandeven...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:21 AM
 Subject: Introduction and some questions
 
 
 Hi all. My name is Dewald. I am from South Africa.
 Jonathan Mosen recommended me to this list.
 I am a piano technician and love to tinker with technology.
 I got my first Mac in December of last year through a Black Friday deal on 
 Best Buy.
 I was still in the US by that time.
 Anyway ... I have some questions, because I'm still new to using it, but 
 yet, I have turned my back on Windows for good.
 
 When I start up my Mac, or just waking it up from sleeping, it says 3 
 system dialogues.
 And it will repeat it a couple of times.
 Sometimes it's 1 system dialogue, or two or three system dialogues.
 
 What is this?
 
 About the notification center:
 do I have to go in there from time to time and clean up, or is there a way 
 for it to do it automatically?
 
 Whichever app I use, I don't know if it is my internet connection or what, 
 but like using something that doesn't even need a connection it will say 
 busy busy busy, ready. Very irritating.
 
 They say you can press command-tab to switch between windows.
 Mine, when i press the combination, it just makes a dunk sound.
 So I don't know if it's only me, but, I have to press the combination, 
 then release, to give it time to focuss or something, and then I can hold 
 in the command key and press tab repeatedly to cycle between windows.
 
 And last for now, do any of you use Scrivener successfully? Is it possible 
 and can someone email me off-list to help.
 
 Thank you very very much for any help.
 I am so excited about my Mac and all the things I can do with it.
 Just a short amuzing story.
 I was living with two room mates in Vancouver WA, The one guy had an HP 
 printer, copier and scanner.
 I had an HP pc trying to connect to this thing, wanting to print something.
 I spent hours trying to find the right driver, and no matter how I tried 
 to install it, it ended up giving me an error.
 While I was wondering what I could do, the other guy came with his Mac, 
 connected it to the HP printer, and I promise you, a few seconds later, 
 the machine was spitting out paper.
 I was dum-founded.
 You would think: HP to HP ... easy, right?
 That sold me to get a Mac. And also of course that it came with Voiceover.
 Amazing!
 
 Thank you,
 God bless,
 Dewald.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
When we say vo key we are meaning control option/ Those keys are used for 
VoiceOver commands. 

Gigi 

 On May 19, 2015, at 8:42 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where is the video key?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions
 
 Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
 letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have 
 to press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known 
 issue.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Gary
 
 Welcome to this list!
 
 I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
 highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
 as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
 interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds 
 like the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't 
 always read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next 
 message is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By standard I 
 mean without VO keys.
 
 Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
 
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi Gary

Welcome to this list!

I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such as 
from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds like 
the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't always 
read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next message is 
displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By standard I mean without 
VO keys.

Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.


 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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RE: Introduction and a couple of questions

[george b]

Where is the video key?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have to 
press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known issue.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Gary
 
 Welcome to this list!
 
 I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
 highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
 as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
 interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds like 
 the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't always 
 read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next message 
 is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By standard I mean 
 without VO keys.
 
 Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
 
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[christopher hallsworth]

I think they mean VO.
 On 19 May 2015, at 14:42, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where is the video key?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions
 
 Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
 letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have 
 to press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known 
 issue.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Gary
 
 Welcome to this list!
 
 I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
 highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
 as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
 interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds 
 like the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't 
 always read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next 
 message is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By standard I 
 mean without VO keys.
 
 Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
 
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[Jamie Pauls]

My apologies. I didn't catch that voice dictation error. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 19, 2015, at 1:42 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 I think they mean VO.
 On 19 May 2015, at 14:42, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where is the video key?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 06:28
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions
 
 Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
 letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have 
 to press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known 
 issue.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Gary
 
 Welcome to this list!
 
 I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
 highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers 
 such as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow 
 to interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds 
 like the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't 
 always read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next 
 message is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By standard 
 I mean without VO keys.
 
 Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
 
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so 
 I now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do 
 they start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message 
 contents scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions

[Jamie Pauls]

Rather than pressing VO and right arrow, you can also press video and the 
letter J to jump from the message list to the message content. You may have to 
press VO J a couple of times to get to the content area. This is a known issue.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 19, 2015, at 3:00 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Gary
 
 Welcome to this list!
 
 I actually use the preview pain in Mail to read my messages. All you do is 
 highlight a message, vo-right until you either hear the message headers such 
 as from and to or the message content itself. Then vo-shift-down arrow to 
 interact. You may then have to VO-right arrow until you hear what sounds like 
 the message content. Note if you land on the first message, you can't always 
 read using standard arrow keys. But if you press delete and the next message 
 is displayed, you can read with standard arrow keys. By standard I mean 
 without VO keys.
 
 Just another option to explore besides what has been offered already.
 
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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RE: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[george b]

I have no keys under my space bar what kind of a keyboard are you useing

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 15:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

Hi Gary. 
Let me tell you how I read mail. Here are some nice commands to know. Command 1 
takes you to your inbox if you get lost. Command 3 goes to your sent messages. 
Command accent (and the accent key is right under the spacebar), takes you from 
window to window in just all apps. So, if you are lost in your mail, press 
command 1 and you will go to your inbox. 

Now when I get on top of a message, I press enter and just start going down 
arrow if all I want to do is read the thing. I sometimes press VO the letter a 
if I want to read it. The only time I have to interact is if I want to get to a 
link I see in my mail. If I do find a link and I done interaction, then I can 
press VO space to activate it, and most of the time I go to Safari. 

I probably have forgotten several good commands, and maybe I’ll think of them 
later to tell you. I’m Stateside by the way, and it’s nice we can help each 
other over the place. 
Gigi 

 On May 18, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I apologise.
 
 Interacting with messages is vo shift Down arrow and to stop interacting is 
 VO up arrow. 
 
 Hi Gary.
 
 I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.
 
 I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple Watch.
 
 How I read mail is like this.
 
 Get to a message.
 
 Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO Up 
 arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in a 
 thread.
 
 I hope this will not confuse you.
 
 Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.  (Female).
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Eugenia Firth]

Sorry. I didn't mean to say the spacebar  .I meant to say under the escape key. 
That's where the accent  key is. I said that so you would know where the thing 
is because I didn't know it first.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 18, 2015, at 5:40 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have no keys under my space bar what kind of a keyboard are you useing
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 15:28
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.
 
 Hi Gary. 
 Let me tell you how I read mail. Here are some nice commands to know. Command 
 1 takes you to your inbox if you get lost. Command 3 goes to your sent 
 messages. Command accent (and the accent key is right under the spacebar), 
 takes you from window to window in just all apps. So, if you are lost in your 
 mail, press command 1 and you will go to your inbox. 
 
 Now when I get on top of a message, I press enter and just start going down 
 arrow if all I want to do is read the thing. I sometimes press VO the letter 
 a if I want to read it. The only time I have to interact is if I want to get 
 to a link I see in my mail. If I do find a link and I done interaction, then 
 I can press VO space to activate it, and most of the time I go to Safari. 
 
 I probably have forgotten several good commands, and maybe I’ll think of them 
 later to tell you. I’m Stateside by the way, and it’s nice we can help each 
 other over the place. 
 Gigi 
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I apologise.
 
 Interacting with messages is vo shift Down arrow and to stop interacting is 
 VO up arrow. 
 
 Hi Gary.
 
 I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.
 
 I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple Watch.
 
 How I read mail is like this.
 
 Get to a message.
 
 Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO 
 Up arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in a 
 thread.
 
 I hope this will not confuse you.
 
 Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.  (Female).
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Gary.

I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.

I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple Watch.

How I read mail is like this.

Get to a message.

Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO Up 
arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in a 
thread.

I hope this will not confuse you.

Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.

Thanks.

Kawal.  (Female).
On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello everyone.

My name is Gary Price.
I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.

I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis Crack 
in Kettering.

He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I now 
have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.

I have a couple of questions before I sign off.

My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
start with over in the United Kingdom?
Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.

My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.

Not sure how to explain this.
When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.

Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.

Speak soon!
Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.

This address is for personal contact:
garypric...@icloud.com

Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice

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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I apologise.

Interacting with messages is vo shift Down arrow and to stop interacting is VO 
up arrow. 

Hi Gary.

I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.

I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple Watch.

How I read mail is like this.

Get to a message.

Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO Up 
arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in a 
thread.

I hope this will not confuse you.

Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.

Thanks.

Kawal.  (Female).
On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello everyone.

My name is Gary Price.
I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.

I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis Crack 
in Kettering.

He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I now 
have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.

I have a couple of questions before I sign off.

My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
start with over in the United Kingdom?
Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.

My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.

Not sure how to explain this.
When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.

Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.

Speak soon!
Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.

This address is for personal contact:
garypric...@icloud.com

Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice

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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Gary. 
Let me tell you how I read mail. Here are some nice commands to know. Command 1 
takes you to your inbox if you get lost. Command 3 goes to your sent messages. 
Command accent (and the accent key is right under the spacebar), takes you from 
window to window in just all apps. So, if you are lost in your mail, press 
command 1 and you will go to your inbox. 

Now when I get on top of a message, I press enter and just start going down 
arrow if all I want to do is read the thing. I sometimes press VO the letter a 
if I want to read it. The only time I have to interact is if I want to get to a 
link I see in my mail. If I do find a link and I done interaction, then I can 
press VO space to activate it, and most of the time I go to Safari. 

I probably have forgotten several good commands, and maybe I’ll think of them 
later to tell you. I’m Stateside by the way, and it’s nice we can help each 
other over the place. 
Gigi 

 On May 18, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I apologise.
 
 Interacting with messages is vo shift Down arrow and to stop interacting is 
 VO up arrow. 
 
 Hi Gary.
 
 I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.
 
 I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple Watch.
 
 How I read mail is like this.
 
 Get to a message.
 
 Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO Up 
 arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in a 
 thread.
 
 I hope this will not confuse you.
 
 Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.  (Female).
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Gary Price]

Hello everyone.

My name is Gary Price.
I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.

I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis Crack 
in Kettering.

He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I now 
have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.

I have a couple of questions before I sign off.

My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
start with over in the United Kingdom?
Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 0333.

My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.

Not sure how to explain this.
When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.

Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.

Speak soon!
Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.

This address is for personal contact:
garypric...@icloud.com

Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice

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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Colin Matthews]

Hi!
OK on my UK layout the Accent is to the left of Z and shift Accent is Tillder!
The one below escape is section symbol and shift section symbol is plus and 
minus!
You can check this by pressing VO+k to start keyboard help and just press keys 
and they will tell you what they are!
Holding down VO and pressing keys will also  tell you what they do!
When your done exploring just press escape and you will be taken out of 
keyboard help!
HTH Colin

 On 18 May 2015, at 23:51, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Sorry. I didn't mean to say the spacebar  .I meant to say under the escape 
 key. That's where the accent  key is. I said that so you would know where the 
 thing is because I didn't know it first.
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 5:40 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have no keys under my space bar what kind of a keyboard are you useing
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 15:28
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.
 
 Hi Gary. 
 Let me tell you how I read mail. Here are some nice commands to know. 
 Command 1 takes you to your inbox if you get lost. Command 3 goes to your 
 sent messages. Command accent (and the accent key is right under the 
 spacebar), takes you from window to window in just all apps. So, if you are 
 lost in your mail, press command 1 and you will go to your inbox. 
 
 Now when I get on top of a message, I press enter and just start going down 
 arrow if all I want to do is read the thing. I sometimes press VO the letter 
 a if I want to read it. The only time I have to interact is if I want to get 
 to a link I see in my mail. If I do find a link and I done interaction, then 
 I can press VO space to activate it, and most of the time I go to Safari. 
 
 I probably have forgotten several good commands, and maybe I’ll think of 
 them later to tell you. I’m Stateside by the way, and it’s nice we can help 
 each other over the place. 
 Gigi 
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I apologise.
 
 Interacting with messages is vo shift Down arrow and to stop interacting is 
 VO up arrow. 
 
 Hi Gary.
 
 I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.
 
 I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple Watch.
 
 How I read mail is like this.
 
 Get to a message.
 
 Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO 
 Up arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in 
 a thread.
 
 I hope this will not confuse you.
 
 Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.  (Female).
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so I 
 now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do they 
 start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message contents 
 scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

seems like in italian layout there's no accent.
 On 19 May 2015, at 2:08 am, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 OK on my UK layout the Accent is to the left of Z and shift Accent is Tillder!
 The one below escape is section symbol and shift section symbol is plus and 
 minus!
 You can check this by pressing VO+k to start keyboard help and just press 
 keys and they will tell you what they are!
 Holding down VO and pressing keys will also  tell you what they do!
 When your done exploring just press escape and you will be taken out of 
 keyboard help!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 23:51, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Sorry. I didn't mean to say the spacebar  .I meant to say under the escape 
 key. That's where the accent  key is. I said that so you would know where 
 the thing is because I didn't know it first.
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 5:40 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have no keys under my space bar what kind of a keyboard are you useing
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 15:28
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introduction and a couple of questions.
 
 Hi Gary. 
 Let me tell you how I read mail. Here are some nice commands to know. 
 Command 1 takes you to your inbox if you get lost. Command 3 goes to your 
 sent messages. Command accent (and the accent key is right under the 
 spacebar), takes you from window to window in just all apps. So, if you are 
 lost in your mail, press command 1 and you will go to your inbox. 
 
 Now when I get on top of a message, I press enter and just start going down 
 arrow if all I want to do is read the thing. I sometimes press VO the 
 letter a if I want to read it. The only time I have to interact is if I 
 want to get to a link I see in my mail. If I do find a link and I done 
 interaction, then I can press VO space to activate it, and most of the time 
 I go to Safari. 
 
 I probably have forgotten several good commands, and maybe I’ll think of 
 them later to tell you. I’m Stateside by the way, and it’s nice we can help 
 each other over the place. 
 Gigi 
 
 On May 18, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I apologise.
 
 Interacting with messages is vo shift Down arrow and to stop interacting 
 is VO up arrow. 
 
 Hi Gary.
 
 I also live in the UK in a town called Peterborough.
 
 I have a Mac mini and I Mac along with an I phone 6 Plus and an Apple 
 Watch.
 
 How I read mail is like this.
 
 Get to a message.
 
 Press enter, it then says content scroll area.  I stop interacting with VO 
 Up arrow.  Then I VO left and VO right to read the messages if they are in 
 a thread.
 
 I hope this will not confuse you.
 
 Been using these Apple products since 2010 and am totally blind.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.  (Female).
 On 18 May 2015, at 21:43, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 My name is Gary Price.
 I live in the United Kingdom, in a town in Lancashire called Bolton.
 Just a quick E-mail introducing myself really.
 
 I have been blind all my life. I got into the Mac through a friend Lewis 
 Crack in Kettering.
 
 He sold me his old one, but this went lets just say a bit pair shaped, so 
 I now have a new 13 inch Macbook Pro.
 
 I have a couple of questions before I sign off.
 
 My first one is you know if Apple needs to contact you, what number do 
 they start with over in the United Kingdom?
 Asking because I have been getting a strange call from a number starting 
 0333.
 
 My second question concerns Mail on the Mac.
 
 Not sure how to explain this.
 When I press Enter on a message to read it, VoiceOver says message 
 contents scroll area. But it will not read the actual message.
 
 Anyway I hope this E-mail is OK.
 
 Speak soon!
 Gary Price
 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
 This address is for personal contact:
 garypric...@icloud.com
 
 Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice
 
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Re: introduction and a question

[jeff `greene]

Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try
re-installing it later.
Thanks, Jeff


On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu,
 then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this
 problem and could not find the application last time I tried it as well.
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
 going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
 years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought
 I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
 I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
 applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
 first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it
 was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is
 supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
 apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
 suggestions?
 Thanks, Jeff

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Re: introduction and a question

[Alex Hall]

If it's in the mnu bar, it will be in the Extras menu; are you hitting vo-m 
twice, not once, to get there? Also, are you running Mountin Lion or Mavericks 
(Apple mnu  About)? If you're on Lion or below, you might not be able to 
access the app's menu entry.
On Sep 1, 2014, at 3:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
 going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
 years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought
 I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
 I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
 applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
 first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it
 was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is
 supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
 apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
 suggestions?
 Thanks, Jeff
 
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Re: introduction and a question

[jeff `greene]

Hi Alex, Yes I'm hitting vo-m twice. I see transmit menu, wifi
bluetooth and all the usuall items. Nothing else. I thought there
might be a shortcut key for bringing up smc fan control. Their website
is no help at all!
Thanks, Jeff

On 9/1/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 If it's in the mnu bar, it will be in the Extras menu; are you hitting vo-m
 twice, not once, to get there? Also, are you running Mountin Lion or
 Mavericks (Apple mnu  About)? If you're on Lion or below, you might not be
 able to access the app's menu entry.
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 3:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
 going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
 years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought
 I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
 I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
 applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
 first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it
 was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is
 supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
 apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
 suggestions?
 Thanks, Jeff

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Re: introduction and a question

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi Jeff.
I think fan control is in system preferences. Go to the Doc with VO D, or go to 
spotlight with VO space and type system preferences.
VO right until you hear Preference pains, scroll area
Interact with VO shift down arrow and start to type in fan control/. Press VO 
space and stop interacting.
You'll see the window for the fan control preference pain.

Matt Dierckens
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On Sep 1, 2014, at 16:06, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex, Yes I'm hitting vo-m twice. I see transmit menu, wifi
 bluetooth and all the usuall items. Nothing else. I thought there
 might be a shortcut key for bringing up smc fan control. Their website
 is no help at all!
 Thanks, Jeff
 
 On 9/1/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 If it's in the mnu bar, it will be in the Extras menu; are you hitting vo-m
 twice, not once, to get there? Also, are you running Mountin Lion or
 Mavericks (Apple mnu  About)? If you're on Lion or below, you might not be
 able to access the app's menu entry.
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 3:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
 going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
 years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought
 I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
 I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
 applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
 first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it
 was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is
 supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
 apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
 suggestions?
 Thanks, Jeff
 
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Re: introduction and a question

[jeffrey greene]

Hi Matt, Thanks for the info but that didn't work either. I decided to remove 
dmc fan control with app delete and forget about it.
Thanks again, Jeff

On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeff.
 I think fan control is in system preferences. Go to the Doc with VO D, or go 
 to spotlight with VO space and type system preferences.
 VO right until you hear Preference pains, scroll area
 Interact with VO shift down arrow and start to type in fan control/. Press VO 
 space and stop interacting.
 You'll see the window for the fan control preference pain.
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 16:06, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex, Yes I'm hitting vo-m twice. I see transmit menu, wifi
 bluetooth and all the usuall items. Nothing else. I thought there
 might be a shortcut key for bringing up smc fan control. Their website
 is no help at all!
 Thanks, Jeff
 
 On 9/1/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 If it's in the mnu bar, it will be in the Extras menu; are you hitting vo-m
 twice, not once, to get there? Also, are you running Mountin Lion or
 Mavericks (Apple mnu  About)? If you're on Lion or below, you might not be
 able to access the app's menu entry.
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 3:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
 going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
 years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought
 I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
 I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
 applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
 first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it
 was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is
 supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
 apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
 suggestions?
 Thanks, Jeff
 
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Re: introduction and a question

[Mike Arrigo]

It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status menu, then 
use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also had this problem and 
could not find the application last time I tried it as well.
On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
 going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
 years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I thought
 I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
 I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
 applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
 first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if it
 was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It is
 supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
 apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
 suggestions?
 Thanks, Jeff
 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[Mike Busboom]

Hi, David,

Wow, there's a name from the past.  My name is Mike Busboom, and we 
corresponded with one another in an earlier life.

I went to your website, and I will go back frequently.

Welcome to the list.  I'm still in Vienna after all these years.

Mike

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macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[Mickey Quenzer]

Hello David:
Welcome aboard the list it's definitely a good place to learn about your Mac so 
you have a good day and it's nice to hear a voice from the past! Take care


*** Mickey Quenzer ***
*** Assistive Technology Training And Consulting Services LLC ***
*** Web site: http://www.attacs.net ***
*** Phone: 541-218-3975 ***

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
 David Goldfield,
 
 
 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[isaac]

Hi there David welcome to the list.
isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Mickey Quenzer mickey.quen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello David:
 Welcome aboard the list it's definitely a good place to learn about your Mac 
 so you have a good day and it's nice to hear a voice from the past! Take care
 
 
 *** Mickey Quenzer ***
 *** Assistive Technology Training And Consulting Services LLC ***
 *** Web site: http://www.attacs.net ***
 *** Phone: 541-218-3975 ***
 
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and 
 I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows 
 and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll 
 admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I 
 think was more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of 
 tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point 
 where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could 
 get one for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they 
 arise and I also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on 
 gaps in my knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been 
 able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to 
 the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with 
 it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up 
 to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see 
 between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
 David Goldfield,
 
 
 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
 
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Introduction From New List Member

['David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries]

Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and 
wanted to write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology 
specialist and I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a 
long-time user of windows and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an 
iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit that, for a couple of years, I truly 
hated using the Mac, which I think was more due to my 20-year windows 
bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials and rummaging through a lot 
of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I absolutely love using the 
Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one for my next computer.  
I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to 
do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I 
need to fill.
I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its 
benefits and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might 
have been able to convince most of them to at least consider switching 
from Windows to the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate 
relationship with it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also 
helped me to warm up to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the 
integration we're going to see between iOS and Yosemite this fall.

thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.


--
David Goldfield,


 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
Feel free to visit my new Web site
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[isaac]

Hi there welcome to the list David. We are glad that you have joined us. 
If you have any questions or need any help we are here to help you. 

isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:06 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
 David Goldfield,
 
 
 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, David,

Welcome to the list. I did a double-take, because I just realized you've posted 
to another list I'm on, and thought you were already a member of this one for a 
while. In any case, my confusion is cleared up.

I switched to the Mac in 2010 and just jumped right in. I wasn't doing 
Assistive Tech work anymore, so I was able to do the full immerssion bit. 
I've used my husband's Windows computer a few times, but basically, it's been 
all Apple for me. If my computer decides it's toast and doesn't just simply 
need a hard-drive replacemen, I may be going to mobile devices for good. I'll 
think about it.

Anyhow, welcome and look forward to hearing from you.

Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
 David Goldfield,
 
 
 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
 
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RE: Introduction From New List Member

[Jule Ann M Lieberman]

And  David introduced me to this list!
Jule Ann

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Introduction From New List Member

Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to
write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and
I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows
and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll
admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I
think was more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of
tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point
where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could
get one for my next computer.
I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to do a
lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I need to
fill.
I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits
and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been
able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to
the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with
it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up
to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see
between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.


--
David Goldfield,


  Founder and Peer Coordinator,
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
Feel free to visit my new Web site
http://www.davidgoldfield.info/

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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[Alex Hall]

Welcome, David, I also saw you on the VIPhone list. :) That list and this one 
both go t one folder, so I sometimes get mixed up as to who is on which and, in 
fact, to which list I am replying. smile Glad to see you here; hopefully you 
will run into far less drama than on the other list. :) 
On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Jule Ann M Lieberman tuf29...@temple.edu wrote:

 And  David introduced me to this list!
 Jule Ann
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:07 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Introduction From New List Member
 
 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and
 I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows
 and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll
 admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I
 think was more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of
 tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point
 where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could
 get one for my next computer.
 I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to do a
 lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I need to
 fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been
 able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to
 the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with
 it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up
 to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see
 between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 --
 David Goldfield,
 
 
  Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Welcome to the list! Hope you like it here. For those who don't know 
this integration is thanks to continuity/handoff which is supposed to 
let you start something on one device then continue on another.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 19/06/2014 20:06, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and
wanted to write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology
specialist and I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a
long-time user of windows and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an
iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit that, for a couple of years, I truly
hated using the Mac, which I think was more due to my 20-year windows
bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials and rummaging through a lot
of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I absolutely love using the
Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one for my next computer.
I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to
do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I
need to fill.
I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its
benefits and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might
have been able to convince most of them to at least consider switching
from Windows to the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate
relationship with it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also
helped me to warm up to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the
integration we're going to see between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.




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Re: Introduction From New List Member

[Mike Arrigo]

Welcome to the list! I remember the tutorial you did for the type 'n' 
speak, really enjoyed that when I first got it back in 1993. I have 3 
macs at home and no longer have any pcs. I have no regrets about 
switching, I think the mac does not suffer from many of the problems 
that windows does, and being able to install and upgrade operating 
systems without sighted help is a huge advantage as well.

Original message:

Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and
wanted to write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology
specialist and I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a
long-time user of windows and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an
iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit that, for a couple of years, I truly
hated using the Mac, which I think was more due to my 20-year windows
bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials and rummaging through a lot
of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I absolutely love using the
Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one for my next computer.
I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to
do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I
need to fill.
I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its
benefits and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might
have been able to convince most of them to at least consider switching
from Windows to the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate
relationship with it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also
helped me to warm up to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the
integration we're going to see between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.




--
David Goldfield,




  Founder and Peer Coordinator,
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
Feel free to visit my new Web site
http://www.davidgoldfield.info/



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Re: Introduction From New List Member

['David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries]

Mike,
I'm honored that you remember that tutorial, which I recorded in 1993, 
by the way.
I agree with your comments re: Mac advantages over Windows.  On the PC, 
when my Web browser hangs, it often hangs up my screen reader which is 
NVDA, a screen reader which rarely crashes.  The one time Safari 
actually got hung up, the Mac had no negative effects, whatsoever.  
Voiceover and my other running apps just worked as though nothing was 
happening.  Quite impressive.


Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel 
free to visit my LinkedIn profile 
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog 
http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter 
http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer 
Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and 
Visually Impaired

On 6/19/2014 5:30 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Welcome to the list! I remember the tutorial you did for the type 'n' 
speak, really enjoyed that when I first got it back in 1993. I have 3 
macs at home and no longer have any pcs. I have no regrets about 
switching, I think the mac does not suffer from many of the problems 
that windows does, and being able to install and upgrade operating 
systems without sighted help is a huge advantage as well.

Original message:

Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and
wanted to write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology
specialist and I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a
long-time user of windows and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an
iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit that, for a couple of years, I truly
hated using the Mac, which I think was more due to my 20-year windows
bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials and rummaging through a lot
of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I absolutely love using the
Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one for my next computer.
I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to
do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I
need to fill.
I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its
benefits and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might
have been able to convince most of them to at least consider switching
from Windows to the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate
relationship with it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also
helped me to warm up to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the
integration we're going to see between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.




--
David Goldfield,




  Founder and Peer Coordinator,
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
Feel free to visit my new Web site
http://www.davidgoldfield.info/



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introduction to Garage Band with VoiceOver?

[Ryan Mann]

Hello.  I am helping somebody learn the Mac and they want to know how
to use Garage Band with VoiceOver.  I don't know anything about Garage
Band or audio editing in general.  Are there any tutorials that give
an introduction to using Garage Band with VoiceOver?  I Googled
tutorial Garage Band VoiceOver and so far I have not found anything.
Thanks.

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Re: introduction to Garage Band with VoiceOver?

[Jessica]

This could be useful to me as well.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I am helping somebody learn the Mac and they want to know how
 to use Garage Band with VoiceOver.  I don't know anything about Garage
 Band or audio editing in general.  Are there any tutorials that give
 an introduction to using Garage Band with VoiceOver?  I Googled
 tutorial Garage Band VoiceOver and so far I have not found anything.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: introduction to Garage Band with VoiceOver?

[isaac]

There is a podcast on applevis that shows you how to use garage band.  The link 
is  
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/garageband-play-record-and-mix-music-pro-your-ios-device
On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.  I am helping somebody learn the Mac and they want to know how
 to use Garage Band with VoiceOver.  I don't know anything about Garage
 Band or audio editing in general.  Are there any tutorials that give
 an introduction to using Garage Band with VoiceOver?  I Googled
 tutorial Garage Band VoiceOver and so far I have not found anything.
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RE: An introduction

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Anne. Thanks for providing this tip to use tables in Pages. I'll try
this when I get a chance. Here's my question. I often prepare outlines for
classroom presentations. Pages doesn't tell me the levels such as:

 

I.

a.

b.

II.

 

In order for me to get this information I have to export the document to
Word which defeats my need to use Pages when I can just create them in Word
in the first place. Have you figured out how to see the levels? Have you
developed any training material in English.

 

Thanks so much for the contributions you make to this list.

 

Paul



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An introduction

 

Hello Brandt,

 

In Pages, as in almost all text editors in Mac OS X, there is a problem
navigating tables. What you have to do is to interact with the text area,
the body I should think in your case, and navigate just using the arrow
keys. When you hear Space, highlighted, open the inspector (Cmd-Option-i)
and select the 3rd button, Wrap. Then navigate right to the radio buttons
and select Floating. Hide the inspector (Cmd-Option-i) and your table will
be editable and shows up as an additional item on the page.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 10 Mar 2013, at 00:14, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:





Hi Anne,

 

I have a document containing my curriculum vitae (CV for those who do not
know), which I laid out in a Microsoft Word table when I first created it.

 

The table does actually not even show up in pages, even though voiceover
indicates that the document contains multiple pages.

 

Contact me off list, and I will send you the document. If you can show me
how to edit it, I will be grateful. 

 

Thanks so long.


Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

 

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Re: An introduction

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

On 11 Mar 2013, at 16:03, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Here’s my question. I often prepare outlines for classroom presentations. 
 Pages doesn’t tell me the levels such as:
  
 I.
 a.
 b.
 II.
  
 In order for me to get this information I have to export the document to Word 
 which defeats my need to use Pages when I can just create them in Word in the 
 first place. Have you figured out how to see the levels? Have you developed 
 any training material in English.


I don't think there's a way for VoiceOver to have access to that information. 
I've been badgering Apple about this for several years now, but no one seems to 
be interested.

I have quite a lot of training materials in English, all arranged for the 
5-unit iWork course that Bryan Jones reviewed on Applevis.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: An introduction

[Brandt]

Hi Anne,

Is there any tutorials, or training programs for pages and VoiceOver? If so, 
please let me know?

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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On 11 Mar 2013, at 8:54 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Paul,
 
 On 11 Mar 2013, at 16:03, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Here’s my question. I often prepare outlines for classroom presentations. 
 Pages doesn’t tell me the levels such as:
  
 I.
 a.
 b.
 II.
  
 In order for me to get this information I have to export the document to 
 Word which defeats my need to use Pages when I can just create them in Word 
 in the first place. Have you figured out how to see the levels? Have you 
 developed any training material in English.
 
 
 I don't think there's a way for VoiceOver to have access to that information. 
 I've been badgering Apple about this for several years now, but no one seems 
 to be interested.
 
 I have quite a lot of training materials in English, all arranged for the 
 5-unit iWork course that Bryan Jones reviewed on Applevis.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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Re: An introduction

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brandt,

Here's a link to a review of our Pages course, posted on Applevis:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-apps/my-review-remote-iwork-lessons-taught-anne-archie-robertson

We're very grateful to Bryan Jones for doing this review and for having been 
our guinea pig for the course. It was brave of him to trust us.

Cheers,

Anne


On 11 Mar 2013, at 20:01, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Anne,
 
 Is there any tutorials, or training programs for pages and VoiceOver? If so, 
 please let me know?
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp

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Re: An introduction

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brandt,

In Pages, as in almost all text editors in Mac OS X, there is a problem 
navigating tables. What you have to do is to interact with the text area, the 
body I should think in your case, and navigate just using the arrow keys. When 
you hear Space, highlighted, open the inspector (Cmd-Option-i) and select the 
3rd button, Wrap. Then navigate right to the radio buttons and select Floating. 
Hide the inspector (Cmd-Option-i) and your table will be editable and shows up 
as an additional item on the page.

Cheers,

Anne


On 10 Mar 2013, at 00:14, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Anne,
 
 I have a document containing my curriculum vitae (CV for those who do not 
 know), which I laid out in a Microsoft Word table when I first created it.
 
 The table does actually not even show up in pages, even though voiceover 
 indicates that the document contains multiple pages.
 
 Contact me off list, and I will send you the document. If you can show me how 
 to edit it, I will be grateful. 
 
 Thanks so long.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp

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Re: An introduction

[Brandt]

High-Anne,

Thanks for the info. You just save my life.

If you ever need anything from me, just let me know. That does however not 
include my first born, for I will not have one.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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On 10 Mar 2013, at 10:01 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Brandt,
 
 In Pages, as in almost all text editors in Mac OS X, there is a problem 
 navigating tables. What you have to do is to interact with the text area, the 
 body I should think in your case, and navigate just using the arrow keys. 
 When you hear Space, highlighted, open the inspector (Cmd-Option-i) and 
 select the 3rd button, Wrap. Then navigate right to the radio buttons and 
 select Floating. Hide the inspector (Cmd-Option-i) and your table will be 
 editable and shows up as an additional item on the page.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 10 Mar 2013, at 00:14, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 I have a document containing my curriculum vitae (CV for those who do not 
 know), which I laid out in a Microsoft Word table when I first created it.
 
 The table does actually not even show up in pages, even though voiceover 
 indicates that the document contains multiple pages.
 
 Contact me off list, and I will send you the document. If you can show me 
 how to edit it, I will be grateful. 
 
 Thanks so long.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 
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An introduction

[Brandt]

Hi there folks,

I bought my MacBook Pro about two months ago. I have been using Apple devices 
including, a few iPods, an iPhone 4 and an iPad.

I have successfully made a total switch from Windows over to the Mac, except 
for one thing. I have documents in MS Word format, which has tables in them,but 
cannot use. If you have any advice, please let me know.

Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from my macbook pro

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RE: An introduction

[wayne coles]

Hello do you go on sa forums if so hi this is wayne hope all
is well and you will find a lot of great info here and the list is a great
source of help and advice so have fun 

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: An introduction

 

Hi there folks,

 

I bought my MacBook Pro about two months ago. I have been using Apple
devices including, a few iPods, an iPhone 4 and an iPad.

 

I have successfully made a total switch from Windows over to the Mac, except
for one thing. I have documents in MS Word format, which has tables in
them,but cannot use. If you have any advice, please let me know.

 

Thanks so long.


Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

 

Sent from my macbook pro

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Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

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Re: An introduction

[Kerri]

Hello. Have you attempted to use pages?
On 2013-03-09, at 7:07 AM, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there folks,
 
 I bought my MacBook Pro about two months ago. I have been using Apple devices 
 including, a few iPods, an iPhone 4 and an iPad.
 
 I have successfully made a total switch from Windows over to the Mac, except 
 for one thing. I have documents in MS Word format, which has tables in 
 them,but cannot use. If you have any advice, please let me know.
 
 Thanks so long.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 Contact me:
 
 Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
 
 Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 My ring to Skype:
 California, United States
   +(1)760-5140161  
 Extension 512
 Cape Town, South Africa
+(27)213-002317  
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Re: An introduction

[Brandt]

Yes, it was not very successful.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from my macbook pro

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On 09 Mar 2013, at 10:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hello. Have you attempted to use pages?
 On 2013-03-09, at 7:07 AM, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there folks,
 
 I bought my MacBook Pro about two months ago. I have been using Apple 
 devices including, a few iPods, an iPhone 4 and an iPad.
 
 I have successfully made a total switch from Windows over to the Mac, except 
 for one thing. I have documents in MS Word format, which has tables in 
 them,but cannot use. If you have any advice, please let me know.
 
 Thanks so long.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 Contact me:
 
 Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
 
 Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 My ring to Skype:
 California, United States
   +(1)760-5140161  
 Extension 512
 Cape Town, South Africa
+(27)213-002317  
 Extension 161
 Johannesburg, South Africa
 +(27)105-002316
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 Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
 
 Windows live messenger: brandt...@live.com
 
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Re: An introduction

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brandt,

I use Pages on my Mac all the time. I'm a freelance translator and get Word 
format documents to translate which I open in Pages. Then when I'm done, I 
export back to Word.

You need a good knowledge of VoiceOver to be able to use Pages efficiently, but 
it's easy when you know how. It just isn't MS word!

Cheers,

Anne


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 Yes, it was not very successful.
 
 Warm regards,
 
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Re: An introduction

[Brandt]

Hi Anne,

I have a document containing my curriculum vitae (CV for those who do not 
know), which I laid out in a Microsoft Word table when I first created it.

The table does actually not even show up in pages, even though voiceover 
indicates that the document contains multiple pages.

Contact me off list, and I will send you the document. If you can show me how 
to edit it, I will be grateful. 

Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from my macbook pro

Contact me:

Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013

Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

My ring to Skype:
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  +(1)760-5140161  
Extension 512
Cape Town, South Africa
   +(27)213-002317  
Extension 161
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On 09 Mar 2013, at 11:31 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Brandt,
 
 I use Pages on my Mac all the time. I'm a freelance translator and get Word 
 format documents to translate which I open in Pages. Then when I'm done, I 
 export back to Word.
 
 You need a good knowledge of VoiceOver to be able to use Pages efficiently, 
 but it's easy when you know how. It just isn't MS word!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 9 Mar 2013, at 22:27, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, it was not very successful.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[CJ Daniel]

Kerri,

Hello  welcome.  Hope you enjoy the list  your new Mac.  Don't be afraid to 
ask questions.  Everyone here is very helpful.

Again, welcome,

CJ


On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi, all. 
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun 
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June. 
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in. The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[Kerri]

Hi, Cja nd thanks for the warm welcome to this list, it's an awesome one.
On 2013-01-12, at 10:38 AM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kerri,
 
 Hello  welcome.  Hope you enjoy the list  your new Mac.  Don't be afraid to 
 ask questions.  Everyone here is very helpful.
 
 Again, welcome,
 
 CJ
 
 
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hi, all. 
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun 
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June. 
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so thought 
 I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in. The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all 
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for quite 
 a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as 
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical 
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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new member and introduction

[Kerri]

Hi, all. 

I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun using 
the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June. 
I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada. 
On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in. The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
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Re: new member and introduction

[Alex Hall]

Well, a warm welcome to you as well. :) I haven't seen you on here
much, so you must be getting along pretty well, or not using the Mac
very much. smile

On 1/11/13, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi, all.

 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June.
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada.
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.

 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so
 thought I
 would say hi to the list.

 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to
 learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in.
 The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using
 OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos
 and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work
 hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the
 Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for
 quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.

 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I
 like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge
 to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.

 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and
 using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band
 in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always
 greatly
 appreciated.

 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.

 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.

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Re: new member and introduction

[Kerri]

I only got in today, grin. As for being good at this Mac, people, if you only 
knew, I found the learning curve *very difficult as I used PC since 1989 when I 
was about 14 (it was dos of course) My first experience with Apple was with an 
Apple 2 E in 1985 or so. 
On 2013-01-11, at 8:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, a warm welcome to you as well. :) I haven't seen you on here
 much, so you must be getting along pretty well, or not using the Mac
 very much. smile
 
 On 1/11/13, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi, all.
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June.
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada.
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so
 thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to
 learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in.
 The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using
 OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos
 and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work
 hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the
 Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for
 quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I
 like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge
 to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and
 using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band
 in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always
 greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[Ray Foret Jr]

Welcome Kerri,  Ray here.  Seems we're getting quite a lot of new faces here:  
and, so far as I am concerned, that's nothing but good.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi, all. 
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun 
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June. 
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in. The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[Ray Foret Jr]

Funny you should bring up the Apple II E!  I have fond memories of that thing.  
In my seinior year in highschool-we're talking 1987-that's what I used.  Did 
you ever get your hands on an app called Braille Edit Express?  Now, that was 
one nice little app.  Sure wish they'd bring that one in to Voice Over.  
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 I only got in today, grin. As for being good at this Mac, people, if you only 
 knew, I found the learning curve *very difficult as I used PC since 1989 when 
 I was about 14 (it was dos of course) My first experience with Apple was with 
 an Apple 2 E in 1985 or so. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 8:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, a warm welcome to you as well. :) I haven't seen you on here
 much, so you must be getting along pretty well, or not using the Mac
 very much. smile
 
 On 1/11/13, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi, all.
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June.
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada.
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so
 thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to
 learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in.
 The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using
 OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos
 and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work
 hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the
 Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for
 quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I
 like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge
 to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and
 using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band
 in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always
 greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[Danny Noonan]

Except for the fact that I was 14 in 88, that exactly mirrors my experience to 
the letter. 

Danny. 

Sent from my phone

On 12/01/2013, at 3:28 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 I only got in today, grin. As for being good at this Mac, people, if you only 
 knew, I found the learning curve *very difficult as I used PC since 1989 when 
 I was about 14 (it was dos of course) My first experience with Apple was with 
 an Apple 2 E in 1985 or so. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 8:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, a warm welcome to you as well. :) I haven't seen you on here
 much, so you must be getting along pretty well, or not using the Mac
 very much. smile
 
 On 1/11/13, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi, all.
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June.
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada.
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so
 thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to
 learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in.
 The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using
 OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos
 and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work
 hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the
 Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for
 quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I
 like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge
 to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and
 using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band
 in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always
 greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[Kerri]

small world. 

Sent from my iPhone.
On 2013-01-11, at 8:39 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:

 Except for the fact that I was 14 in 88, that exactly mirrors my experience 
 to the letter. 
 
 Danny. 
 
 Sent from my phone
 
 On 12/01/2013, at 3:28 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 I only got in today, grin. As for being good at this Mac, people, if you 
 only knew, I found the learning curve *very difficult as I used PC since 
 1989 when I was about 14 (it was dos of course) My first experience with 
 Apple was with an Apple 2 E in 1985 or so. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 8:19 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, a warm welcome to you as well. :) I haven't seen you on here
 much, so you must be getting along pretty well, or not using the Mac
 very much. smile
 
 On 1/11/13, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi, all.
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June.
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada.
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so
 thought I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to
 learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in.
 The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using
 OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos
 and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work
 hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the
 Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for
 quite a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I
 like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge
 to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and
 using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band
 in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always
 greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
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Re: new member and introduction

[Kerri]

thanks very much, Ray, it's good to be here.
On 2013-01-11, at 8:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Welcome Kerri,  Ray here.  Seems we're getting quite a lot of new faces here: 
  and, so far as I am concerned, that's nothing but good.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hi, all. 
 
 I'm new here as well, in fact I'm a relatively new Mac user, having begun 
 using the mac steadily in September after having bought it in June. 
 I'm Kerri from British  Columbia Canada. 
 On 2013-01-11, at 6:44 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to see you made it here (you know me from the blind-guitarist
 list). I use Audacity for music - export your Ampkit tracks, then
 import them into Audacity. I don't have the full Ampkit for Mac yet so
 have not tried this exact thing, but I have used Audacity and I get
 along with it well enough. I, too, have given up on Garageband; it is
 a perfect example of an app that manages to be accessible while being
 totally unuseable, in my opinion.
 
 On 1/11/13, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 I started receiving list messages today so I guess I'm approved so thought 
 I
 would say hi to the list.
 
 I played with OS10 for a bit for a while but decided the only way to learn
 it properly was to get rid of windows all together and jump right in. The
 fact that my MBP kept corrupting windows boot camp partitions in all 
 honesty
 did help my decisionn. Regardless of how I got here, I've been using OS10,
 Lion and now Mountain lion for about a year or so and yes, I got literal
 headaches at first trying to unlearn the years upon  years of first dos and
 then windows muscle memory but now I'm getting to where I have to work hard
 to recall Windows commands and not the other way round. Add to this the
 wonderful vo to caps lock ability I recently took advantage of and the Mac
 is becoming my favourite platform. Who am I kidding, it has been for quite 
 a
 while. I don't miss Driver issues, selling my sole to afford JFW and
 wondering why I get a different adaptive experience on each different
 machine I use.
 
 I look forward to learning from you all and helping out as much as 
 possible.
 The more I learn, the more questions it creates. As I find answers, I like
 to share them with others. Many people gave of there time and knowledge to
 help me learn and returning the favour is a good way to help return the
 favours.
 
 I'm a musician by trade so I'm putting a lot of effort into the musical 
 side
 of things. AmpKit is my latest love and I'm amazed at how wonderfully
 accessible it is with VoiceOver. I'm also getting into learning and using
 Amadeus Pro as I finally couldn't handle attempting to make Garage Band in
 to anything more than a buggy unstable toy. Any suggestions on music
 creation apps, recording solutions or learning resources are always greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the list and look forward to getting to know you all.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny Noonan.
 
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Re: New User Introduction

[Matthew dyer]

Hi danule, Welcome to the list. It is a great ressorce. I have learned alot 
from this list.

Matthew



- Original Message -
From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:50 am
Subject: New User Introduction



 Hello list,
 My name's Daniel, and I figure I'd introduce myself. I was accepted to the 
 list today, and I'm from Florida.
 I recently got a Mac Book pro 13 inch, late 2011 in April of this year. I 
 figure I'd join this list as I herd that this is a pretty good list to 
 receive newly help.
 I look forward to learning allot about my first ever Apple machine from this 
 list, this is my first Apple machine. I have an iPhone, but this list isn't 
 about that. ininsmiles*
 My Mac thus far has helped me in more than 1 way, but the most promising ways 
 that it has helped, is in my freedom of not having to rely on an a thousand 
 dollar screen reader. No longer do I need to pay for a screen reader, one is 
 already built-in with the use of Voiceover, and for that, I find that amazing.
 The other way my Mac has helped, is in the running of my web hosting service, 
 www.firestar-hosting.com
 Without my Mac and terminal, I'd have to rely on an SSH (Secure Shell) client 
 to be installed, or I'd have to buy one. Thankfully, however, terminal has 
 done me well.
 In any event, I'm done talking about how good my Mac has been. I look forward 
 to receiving as much help as members would be willing to give.
 Have an awesome day.
 
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Re: New User Introduction

[Alex Hall]

Welcome to the list. I've learned pretty much everything I know about the mac 
from this list, and everyone is very patient with all my questions... So ask 
away!
On Oct 30, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Matthew dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi danule, Welcome to the list. It is a great ressorce. I have learned alot 
 from this list.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:50 am
 Subject: New User Introduction
 
 
 
 Hello list,
 My name's Daniel, and I figure I'd introduce myself. I was accepted to the 
 list today, and I'm from Florida.
 I recently got a Mac Book pro 13 inch, late 2011 in April of this year. I 
 figure I'd join this list as I herd that this is a pretty good list to 
 receive newly help.
 I look forward to learning allot about my first ever Apple machine from this 
 list, this is my first Apple machine. I have an iPhone, but this list isn't 
 about that. ininsmiles*
 My Mac thus far has helped me in more than 1 way, but the most promising 
 ways that it has helped, is in my freedom of not having to rely on an a 
 thousand dollar screen reader. No longer do I need to pay for a screen 
 reader, one is already built-in with the use of Voiceover, and for that, I 
 find that amazing.
 The other way my Mac has helped, is in the running of my web hosting 
 service, www.firestar-hosting.com
 Without my Mac and terminal, I'd have to rely on an SSH (Secure Shell) 
 client to be installed, or I'd have to buy one. Thankfully, however, 
 terminal has done me well.
 In any event, I'm done talking about how good my Mac has been. I look 
 forward to receiving as much help as members would be willing to give.
 Have an awesome day.
 
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New User Introduction

[Daniel C]

Hello list,
My name's Daniel, and I figure I'd introduce myself. I was accepted to the list 
today, and I'm from Florida.
I recently got a Mac Book pro 13 inch, late 2011 in April of this year. I 
figure I'd join this list as I herd that this is a pretty good list to receive 
newly help.
I look forward to learning allot about my first ever Apple machine from this 
list, this is my first Apple machine. I have an iPhone, but this list isn't 
about that. *smiles*
My Mac thus far has helped me in more than 1 way, but the most promising ways 
that it has helped, is in my freedom of not having to rely on an a thousand 
dollar screen reader. No longer do I need to pay for a screen reader, one is 
already built-in with the use of Voiceover, and for that, I find that amazing.
The other way my Mac has helped, is in the running of my web hosting service, 
www.firestar-hosting.com
Without my Mac and terminal, I'd have to rely on an SSH (Secure Shell) client 
to be installed, or I'd have to buy one. Thankfully, however, terminal has done 
me well.
In any event, I'm done talking about how good my Mac has been. I look forward 
to receiving as much help as members would be willing to give.
Have an awesome day.

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Re: New User Introduction

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Daniel
Welcome to the list. I would like to tell you that not only do we talk about 
Macintosh computers, but we also talk about iPhones, iPads, et cetera. This is 
because they're very much interrelated these days.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello list,
 My name's Daniel, and I figure I'd introduce myself. I was accepted to the 
 list today, and I'm from Florida.
 I recently got a Mac Book pro 13 inch, late 2011 in April of this year. I 
 figure I'd join this list as I herd that this is a pretty good list to 
 receive newly help.
 I look forward to learning allot about my first ever Apple machine from this 
 list, this is my first Apple machine. I have an iPhone, but this list isn't 
 about that. *smiles*
 My Mac thus far has helped me in more than 1 way, but the most promising ways 
 that it has helped, is in my freedom of not having to rely on an a thousand 
 dollar screen reader. No longer do I need to pay for a screen reader, one is 
 already built-in with the use of Voiceover, and for that, I find that amazing.
 The other way my Mac has helped, is in the running of my web hosting service, 
 www.firestar-hosting.com
 Without my Mac and terminal, I'd have to rely on an SSH (Secure Shell) client 
 to be installed, or I'd have to buy one. Thankfully, however, terminal has 
 done me well.
 In any event, I'm done talking about how good my Mac has been. I look forward 
 to receiving as much help as members would be willing to give.
 Have an awesome day.
 
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Re: New User Introduction

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Daniel,

Don't get the wrong idea.  This list is mainly... shruggs: *mainly!* for the 
use of Voiceover with the Mac, and I'm sure the mods would probably say, 
please do not make a habbit of it, but one in a while IPhone questions to 
crop up, and that's perfectly acceptable.  Or at least, the mods never have 
jumped in and said anything.  I, even have asked a few things about my 
IPhone.  It's rare, but it does happen on occasions.  I guess what I'd say 
from a member perspective and not that there of a mod is, be sparing about 
it, and not make it a  habbit, but if you have a question here and there, 
don't feel we won't help.  This list is extremely friendly, and as long as 
it's within reason, we'll do everything we can to help you out.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:50 AM
Subject: New User Introduction


Hello list,
My name's Daniel, and I figure I'd introduce myself. I was accepted to the 
list today, and I'm from Florida.
I recently got a Mac Book pro 13 inch, late 2011 in April of this year. I 
figure I'd join this list as I herd that this is a pretty good list to 
receive newly help.
I look forward to learning allot about my first ever Apple machine from this 
list, this is my first Apple machine. I have an iPhone, but this list isn't 
about that. *smiles*
My Mac thus far has helped me in more than 1 way, but the most promising 
ways that it has helped, is in my freedom of not having to rely on an a 
thousand dollar screen reader. No longer do I need to pay for a screen 
reader, one is already built-in with the use of Voiceover, and for that, I 
find that amazing.
The other way my Mac has helped, is in the running of my web hosting 
service, www.firestar-hosting.com
Without my Mac and terminal, I'd have to rely on an SSH (Secure Shell) 
client to be installed, or I'd have to buy one. Thankfully, however, 
terminal has done me well.
In any event, I'm done talking about how good my Mac has been. I look 
forward to receiving as much help as members would be willing to give.

Have an awesome day.

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Re: Introduction

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Welcome to the new listers, and enjoy your new iPhones.

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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Introduction

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi,
I'm new to this group and recently got a macbook running snow leopard.
I have many many questions.
I'll start with this one.
Is there a way with voiceover to put shortcuts to websites on the dock or 
desktop?
I read in the VO manual that there was but couldn't get it to work.
Second,Is there a way to read email without having to interact with each 
message? Can you press enter and have the message read?
Finally, I put dropbox on my mac, but don't think I did it right, because it's 
not syncing with my iPhone properly.
How do I remove it and then start over. I don't remember how I got it installed.
Thanks,
Stacey Robinson and GEB Dog Chesley
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

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Re: Introduction

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Hi, Stacey; it's me again! :)  I can help you out with Snow Leopard and VO; 
maybe we can Skype or something some time and I'll give you some tips.


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Re: Introduction

[Stacey Robinson]

I don't have skype yet.

On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

 Hi, Stacey; it's me again! :)  I can help you out with Snow Leopard and VO; 
 maybe we can Skype or something some time and I'll give you some tips.
 
 
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Re: Introduction

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Oh; well, I could call you if you like, or we can talk via Mail or whatever 
works; I'd be glad to help if I can.


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