Re: Maemo Downloads, Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-23 Thread rael
Hello! 

> Then perhaps you may fill it as bug in bugzilla? I didn't know abut the 
> garage tracker Quim mentioned but I did file two bugs for Maemo Downloads 
> recently
> http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120
> http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121
> and both got handled and will be fixed in new version. So maybe bugzilla 
> is better fo real bugs (not Midgard feature enhancements).

As written, I found the bug that obvious and had memory fragments of 
discussions and mail natifications about fixes in the application catalog 
that I was unsure if this is really a bug or a defined and wanted behaviour. 

If somebody assures me, that this is definitely not wanted behaviour I will 
for sure make a bug for it :-) 

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Maemo Downloads, Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-23 Thread Frantisek Dufka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> That was not the point. Please read my initial problem description. The 
> problem is, that if your application catalog entry states that you have 
> packages for multiple OS version (my current packages support OS2006 and 
> OS2007) and you search for packages for OS 2007, you will not see most of my 
> packages. At least that is the way it is for my packages. 

Then perhaps you may fill it as bug in bugzilla? I didn't know abut the 
garage tracker Quim mentioned but I did file two bugs for Maemo 
Downloads recently
http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120
http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121
and both got handled and will be fixed in new version. So maybe bugzilla 
is better fo real bugs (not Midgard feature enhancements).

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-23 Thread rael
Hello! 

>> However it seems that anybody 
>> that looks for already existing applications for his 810 currently will 
>> not find them (if this package is also available for OS 2007 or 2006). 
>> That is at least more than "not nice" ;-)
> 
> Perhaps, although kind of makes sense considering that the device is not
> yet in the market and the OS2008 is not available for public download. 
> 
> However, we will create the OS2008 category very soon and before the
> OS2008/N810 are out. This way developers can start uploading, SDK users
> can try in the emulated environment and N810 proto owners can start
> doing some real testing installing apps in a convenient way.

That was not the point. Please read my initial problem description. The 
problem is, that if your application catalog entry states that you have 
packages for multiple OS version (my current packages support OS2006 and 
OS2007) and you search for packages for OS 2007, you will not see most of my 
packages. At least that is the way it is for my packages. 

This will get worse for OS 2008 when it will be release. Me and likely all 
maintainers of long existing and stable packages will add OS 2008 to their 
list of supported OS versions. 

If new user will search for software for their new N810 they may not see 
these packages at all and will assume that there are no packages while in 
fact they are (it is difficult to judge which packages he will see, because 
if I go to downloads.maemo.org and just do the default search (any packages 
for OS 2007) I only see a small subset that has no obivous common criteria - 
but only a small subset). They have to walk all the categories manually to 
see all available applications. 

The bug ticket you linked sounds like it will fix this problem by changing 
the interface. Will it be out in time? 

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-23 Thread Quim Gil

On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 08:59 +0200, ext Tim Teulings wrote:
> However it seems that anybody 
> that looks for already existing applications for his 810 currently will 
> not find them (if this package is also available for OS 2007 or 2006). 
> That is at least more than "not nice" ;-)

Perhaps, although kind of makes sense considering that the device is not
yet in the market and the OS2008 is not available for public download.

However, we will create the OS2008 category very soon and before the
OS2008/N810 are out. This way developers can start uploading, SDK users
can try in the emulated environment and N810 proto owners can start
doing some real testing installing apps in a convenient way.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-22 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello!

>> * How can I better promote my application in this case? Can I make a 
>> garage project page for my application? Would this make sense?
> 
> We need to help developers promoting their applications in any case,
[...]
> news or blog about it... Having a project in Garage helps, yes. 


Hmm, as asked before: In my case (and possibly others) I also have a 
sourceforge project page. So while I can make a separate garage projects 
for each of my projects it is likely that I would not use much of the 
infrastructure. Especially I would not use the subversion repository, 
since all my code is already placed at sourceforge. And I likely would 
link to my sourceforge homepage for more information and else would 
duplicate information from the sf homepage. However it still looks like 
I would profit from this so: if this is OK for you, it is OK for me ;-) 
It would be nice if external hosting sites would be integrated/supported 
better, but I would need to play a little bit more with garage to make 
concrete suggestions.

>> The Application Catalog still seems to be horribly broken.

> I wouldn't be so tough bu in any case let's evaluate

OK. That was to drastic, but in fact I plan to build initial version of 
my packages for OS2008 within the next two weeks (just need some final 
finishing touch for one package) and of course I will update the 
information in the Application Catalog. However it seems that anybody 
that looks for already existing applications for his 810 currently will 
not find them (if this package is also available for OS 2007 or 2006). 
That is at least more than "not nice" ;-)

> http://downloads.maemo.org once we have implemented the round of
> improvements to be released one of these days. See
> https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=948&group_id=106&atid=460

Sounds good :-)

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Re: Can't register to garage.maemo was: Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-22 Thread Darius Jack


Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,

On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 22:43 +0100, ext Darius Jack wrote:
> Unfortunately, garage.maemo
> registration procedure doesn't seem to work nicely.
> 
> Could you kindly explain if your invitation to a program is open or
> restricted 
> to pre-selected past members of garage.maemo only ?

It's clearly open. You seem to be hitting the same issue reported by
other new users at http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146 

Please report and follow the activity there. Think that every time you
send an email to maemo-developers (and you sent 3 in a row) it goes not
only to "Nokia Inc" but also to hundreds of users just like you. Thanks!

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Hi,

thanks again
and some explanation.
I am sending email to maemo-developers asking you and others for help.
Announcing your public Nokia 810 challenge you have made to decide to join in.
You have set terms in the name of Nokia
and one of your terms is garage/maemo.org account.

As deadline closes in a week or so there is nothing strange I followed your 
instructions and notified you and others the login bug.
There is nothing wrong to tell other in-spe applicants about login problems to 
garage/maemo.org.


As you see, I was very lucky, deciding to email you personally and cc: 
maemo-developers list , as the only answer comes from you not one of hundreds
users like me.
But not like me, as others already have got their accounts with 
garage/maemo.org and I am still staying in front of closed gateway to success.

As I see you are in charge of this maemo-developers list as well as in charge 
of maemo.org, sponsored by Nokia.

Thank you very much for your kind help but but I am already 2 days lost with my 
challenge application.

Some time ago I have contacted CEO at Nokia about my development of a special 
keyboard to Nokia cell phones and received a nice reply.

So I did hoped the same to work with garage/maemo.org, sponsored by Nokia.
Thanks again and let me try my garage/maemo.org login procedure over and over 
again.
I do hope to succeed one day finally.

Darius

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-22 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> Keeping the good tradition, we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet
> Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon
> as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program
> starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to
> get a device for 99€ (or equivalent price in other currencies).

Although I am quite sure that I won't qualify for a N810 this time
(I've simply been too busy with university stuff lately) I would like
to say thank you for this developer gadges and I hope that this "good
tradition" will continue.
It allows students and other to get in touch with this funny and
interesting decive and even start programming on more or less embedded
devices.

Thanks a lot, lg Clemens
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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-22 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 10/22/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> General answer to anybody concerned about getting or not a discount code
> (and please don't quote me): this is like sex, the more you are
> self-conscious and concerned the more your risk to fail. Just relax and
> keep sharing your maemo love. :)

Damnit: some of us are married ;-)

Cheers,

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Re: Can't register to garage.maemo was: Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-22 Thread Quim Gil
Hi,

On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 22:43 +0100, ext Darius Jack wrote:
> Unfortunately, garage.maemo
> registration procedure doesn't seem to work nicely.
> 
> Could you kindly explain if your invitation to a program is open or
> restricted 
> to pre-selected past members of garage.maemo only ?

It's clearly open. You seem to be hitting the same issue reported by
other new users at http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146 

Please report and follow the activity there. Think that every time you
send an email to maemo-developers (and you sent 3 in a row) it goes not
only to "Nokia Inc" but also to hundreds of users just like you. Thanks!

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-22 Thread Quim Gil
Hi there,

General answer to anybody concerned about getting or not a discount code
(and please don't quote me): this is like sex, the more you are
self-conscious and concerned the more your risk to fail. Just relax and
keep sharing your maemo love. :)

On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 19:14 +0200, ext Tim Teulings wrote:
> * When will my profile (and the related links) be evaluated?

We don't plan to look anything with selective eyes before the deadline
for submissions. Don't expect us to go through all your (plural) related
links, though.


> * Is the sourceforge link in the profile meant to be a link to my 
> personal source "users" page or to a sf web page for my project(s)? I'm 
> asking because the users page does not tell that much (and it looks like 
> I can only publish my skills if I enter a resume :-/).

We are helping maemo users to link to their alter egos, so we are asking
about your SF profile if you want to provide it. It looks like
http://sourceforge.net/users/YourId and it tells at least the projects
you are involved in SF. Fair enough.


> My application only occur in the Application Catalog.

The idea is to integrate all the data retrievable from the *.maemo.org
services and show it in your profile (if you wish). I don't know how far
we can go before the end of the N810 maemo device program but it's not
the thing that worries me more either. We have gone through two device
programs without user profiles. We are developing the user profiles per
se, not only because of this program.


> * How can I better promote my application in this case? Can I make a 
> garage project page for my application? Would this make sense?

We need to help developers promoting their applications in any case,
yes. Go through the Quality Awareness checklist, offer your packages in
extras, offer a nice product page in downloads.maemo.org with
screenshots and detailed description, make sure at least your friends
try your software and comment on it, offer channels for feedback, write
news or blog about it... Having a project in Garage helps, yes. 

Note that there is software for maemo that is not following almost any
of the previous steps and yet it is popular and successful, so don't
take this as a single rule.



> The Application Catalog still seems to be horribly broken.

I wouldn't be so tough bu in any case let's evaluate
http://downloads.maemo.org once we have implemented the round of
improvements to be released one of these days. See
https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=948&group_id=106&atid=460

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Can't register to garage.maemo No.3 was Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-20 Thread Darius Jack
NOKIA Inc.,

tried to login 2 hours later and still no chance

https://maemo.org/

 Login  
   User name
  [input]   
 Password
  [input]   
  [input] var iframe_submitted = false; var password_store = 
''; function pseudo_sso() { if (iframe_submitted) { /* 
alert('un: ' + document.loginform.form_loginname.value + ', pw: ' + 
document.loginform.form_pw.value); alert ('second submit, returning 
true'); */ return true; } username = 
document.midcom_services_auth_frontend_form.username.value; password = 
document.midcom_services_auth_frontend_form.password.value; password_store 
= password; try { iframe = frames['webloginiframe'].document;   
  iframe.write('  [input]   Login Name:
 [input]  
  Password:
 [input]  
   [input]  
 '); iframe.loginform.form_loginname.value = username; 
iframe.loginform.form_pw.value = password; 
iframe.getElementById('loginbutton').click(); iframe_submitted = true;  
   /* TODO: How to capture that the iframe has gotten response ? 
frames['webloginiframe'].addEventListener('load', resubmit(), false); 
*/ } catch (e) { /* alert('Exception: ' + e); */ } 
finally { setTimeout('resubmit();', 2000); return false;
 } } function resubmit() { /* alert('resubmit called'); */ 
document.midcom_services_auth_frontend_form.password.value = password_store;
 
document.midcom_services_auth_frontend_form.midcom_services_auth_frontend_form_submit.click();
 }   
  
 Username or password was invalid.
 Note to new users If you just created 
your account in garage.maemo.org, try again in a few minutes.Thank you.
 
Please let me know what's wrong with login procedure.

Thanks.
Darius


Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's out now: 

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html

Keeping the good tradition, we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet
Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon
as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program
starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to
get a device for 99€ (or equivalent price in other currencies). 

The call is addressed not only to open source programmers, but also to
designers, documentation writers, community supporters, maemo
evangelists, bloggers… In order to apply go to your maemo profile (same
login as the so-called Garage account) and make your request there.
Please read carefully the instructions, terms and conditions. 

Some time next week we will provide more details about the selection
process, but this is the basic you need to know:

  * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
won't help you.
  * Nokia & related professionals stay out. In case of doubt don’t
ask: apply.
  * Open contributions & community involvement are the main rules to
select the winners, but newcomers can get merits by proposing
creative ideas requiring such device (open source and non-profit
are a must).
  * The 500 discount codes will be distributed the same day the N810
is available for purchase in the online Nokia shops.
PS: We will develop more functionality around these profiles, as
detailed in the maemo CRM requirements. Stay tuned.

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Can't register to garage.maemo No.2 was: Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-20 Thread Darius Jack
NOKIA Inc.,

I am really sorry, but there is no way to register to garage.maemo account
at

https://maemo.org/
login message - please enter credentials

Wikipedia: credentials
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credential
A credential is an attestation of qualification, competence, or authority 
issued to an individual by a third party with a relevant de jure or de facto 
authority or assumed competence to do so.
 Examples of credentials include academic diplomas, academic degrees, and 
certifications, security clearances, identification documents, badges, 
passwords and user names, keys, powers of attorney, and so on.
How can I enter credentials not being registered ?

Thanks.

Darius

Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's out now: 

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html

Keeping the good tradition, we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet
Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon
as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program
starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to
get a device for 99€ (or equivalent price in other currencies). 

The call is addressed not only to open source programmers, but also to
designers, documentation writers, community supporters, maemo
evangelists, bloggers… In order to apply go to your maemo profile (same
login as the so-called Garage account) and make your request there.
Please read carefully the instructions, terms and conditions. 

Some time next week we will provide more details about the selection
process, but this is the basic you need to know:

  * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
won't help you.
  * Nokia & related professionals stay out. In case of doubt don’t
ask: apply.
  * Open contributions & community involvement are the main rules to
select the winners, but newcomers can get merits by proposing
creative ideas requiring such device (open source and non-profit
are a must).
  * The 500 discount codes will be distributed the same day the N810
is available for purchase in the online Nokia shops.
PS: We will develop more functionality around these profiles, as
detailed in the maemo CRM requirements. Stay tuned.

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Can't register to garage.maemo was: Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-20 Thread Darius Jack
Hi,

really interested to join NOKIA N810 maemo device program.
Unfortunately, garage.maemo
registration procedure doesn't seem to work nicely.

Could you kindly explain if your invitation to a program is open or restricted 
to pre-selected past members of garage.maemo only ?

Darius

"
Congratulations. You have registered on garage.

You are now being sent a confirmation email to verify your email address. 
Visiting the link sent to you in this email will activate your account. 

Thank you for registering on the garage web site. You have
account with username  created for you. In order complete your 
registration, visit the following url: 


Access denied

Credentials you entered do not correspond to valid account.
"

Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's out now: 

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html

Keeping the good tradition, we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet
Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon
as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program
starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to
get a device for 99€ (or equivalent price in other currencies). 

The call is addressed not only to open source programmers, but also to
designers, documentation writers, community supporters, maemo
evangelists, bloggers… In order to apply go to your maemo profile (same
login as the so-called Garage account) and make your request there.
Please read carefully the instructions, terms and conditions. 

Some time next week we will provide more details about the selection
process, but this is the basic you need to know:

  * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
won't help you.
  * Nokia & related professionals stay out. In case of doubt don’t
ask: apply.
  * Open contributions & community involvement are the main rules to
select the winners, but newcomers can get merits by proposing
creative ideas requiring such device (open source and non-profit
are a must).
  * The 500 discount codes will be distributed the same day the N810
is available for purchase in the online Nokia shops.
PS: We will develop more functionality around these profiles, as
detailed in the maemo CRM requirements. Stay tuned.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello!

>   * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
> invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
> won't help you.

Some questions:
* When will my profile (and the related links) be evaluated? A Short 
time before the release or a short time after applying? I'm asking 
because: Is it wise to apply now or better shortly before the deadline? 
It sounds like the profile will improve over time. And of course I will 
try to promote my skills using the linked pages. So applying later may 
be better!? (I would suggest a "make your self attractive" deadline ;-) 
Please understand: I don't want to ceat but I want to make sure there is 
the information you are looking for.
* Is the sourceforge link in the profile meant to be a link to my 
personal source "users" page or to a sf web page for my project(s)? I'm 
asking because the users page does not tell that much (and it looks like 
I can only publish my skills if I enter a resume :-/).
* I'm currently hosting by applications using sourceforge (because they 
are not maemo only, just maemo "optimized", I use sf much longer than 
maemo exists, etc...), having a repository on my homepage. My 
application only occur in the Application Catalog. So my fear is, that 
people "don't see" me (see above ;-)). because I'm neither using garage 
for my developments nor do I see a link from my profile to my projects 
(which should be the case). This is a problem that bothers my for a while...
* How can I better promote my application in this case? Can I make a 
garage project page for my application? Would this make sense?

I would also suggest

And something completely unrelated:
The Application Catalog still seems to be horribly broken. Example:
Go to the main page, sue the standard settings (2007, Any licence, Any 
status) and search for EightyOne => No hit. No go in the "Games" 
category, step to page 2 and there it is.

Since I read multiple times and the catalog was broken and was fixed 
after and because this bug seem to have last now for quite a while I 
always assume that somehow this is not a bug (and f it is a bug, I have 
an idea what the problem is (looks like searching for 2007 does not 
match 2006+2007 support!?)). But now it looks like it is time for a 
ticket/discussion anyway. So: Is this by design (and if it is: does that 
make sense?)?

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Quim Gil

On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 09:29 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> Ah. I have declared a contractor affiliation with Nokia. But you just
> told me in a private email to apply anyway, after I double-checked with
> you about the "if in doubt, apply". I guess I'll pretend not to be
> affiliated.

Show the "Apply program" block to users with Nokia affiliation
http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2135

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Murray Cumming

On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 10:20 +0300, Quim Gil wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 08:15 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > After entering my profile
> > information, and clicking publish on the confirmation page, I am taken
> > to https://maemo.org/profile/, but I see no way to make a request for an
> > N810 discount.
> 
> Because this is the private view of your profile and in the way we have
> designed the thing the application is done in the edit profile side.
> 
> Go to edit your profile and you will find the option to apply... unless
> you have declared an affiliation with Nokia. This is also behaving in
> the way it has been designed.

Ah. I have declared a contractor affiliation with Nokia. But you just
told me in a private email to apply anyway, after I double-checked with
you about the "if in doubt, apply". I guess I'll pretend not to be
affiliated.

> I'm filing bugs like http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 thanks
> to your feedback to improve this tool. Feel free filing bugs or
> enhancements requests yourselves. We can discuss and fix stuff there.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-19 Thread Quim Gil
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 08:15 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> After entering my profile
> information, and clicking publish on the confirmation page, I am taken
> to https://maemo.org/profile/, but I see no way to make a request for an
> N810 discount.

Because this is the private view of your profile and in the way we have
designed the thing the application is done in the edit profile side.

Go to edit your profile and you will find the option to apply... unless
you have declared an affiliation with Nokia. This is also behaving in
the way it has been designed.

I'm filing bugs like http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133 thanks
to your feedback to improve this tool. Feel free filing bugs or
enhancements requests yourselves. We can discuss and fix stuff there.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Murray Cumming

On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 15:17 +0300, Quim Gil wrote:
> It's out now: 
> 
> http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html

This says "In order to apply go to your maemo profile (same login as the
so-called Garage account) and make your request there. Please read
carefully the instructions, terms and conditions."

I feel like I've failed the first test. After entering my profile
information, and clicking publish on the confirmation page, I am taken
to https://maemo.org/profile/, but I see no way to make a request for an
N810 discount.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Quim Gil
Hi!

(((users with login issues: wait some minutes and try again. You are
probably victims of http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2131 - if they
just created an account then they are suffering this bug and a side
effect bringing back to life http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1612
- for any issues please comment on these bugs or create new ones,
thanks))


On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 15:41 +0200, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> Hello Quim,
> 
> maybe wiki page with questions&answers would be good again.

Sure. Can you (or the next one having a question) create the page? I
invested some time trying to answer all the potential questions (i.e.
those rising in previous programs) in the current texts of the
announcement and the program. But if there are still open questions
let's create that wiki page to avoid extra traffic here.


> Q: Is the code really tied to specific country or only to region 
> (US/Europe) like before? Can I change the country in future?

People getting a code will be able to use it in any Nokia online shop
detailed in the program (that dropdown menu where you select a country).
We encourage people not to change countries just like that since
geographic distribution of codes/winners is one element considered, but
in case of emergency we won't go through the EU/US issues we had in the
past.


> The form needs to fill specific country in field "Nokia shop to get the 
> device from". Can I select some country now but change it later to some 
> other (European) country if something goes wrong with the "you have a 
> valid address in that country where the purchased device can be sent" 
> condition in future? (see 2. NOKIA ONLINE SHOPS 
> https://maemo.org/device/terms/)

Yes

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Rafael Proença
>
> Letstalk.com, the company responsible to sell the N800 in US, doesn't
> accept credit cards printed outside the US (even the International
> Credit Cards). So you will need ask to your friend or relative to pay
> your device for you.


It still valid for N810 too? I mean, letstalk.com will not accept
international credit cards if it is from outside US?
Is there other way?

Thanks.

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Osvaldo Santana Neto
On 10/18/07, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danilo Cesar wrote:
> > Or, is there other options to developers who lives outside the countries
> > that maemo program covers?
>
> Yes, I believe the terms are worded in such way that you can apply if
> you have someone in one of those countries who will buy the device for
> you. See point 2 in http://maemo.org/device/terms/ , the part "or you
> have a valid address in that country where the purchased device can be
> sent" i.e. you have address of your friend or relative.

Letstalk.com, the company responsible to sell the N800 in US, doesn't
accept credit cards printed outside the US (even the International
Credit Cards). So you will need ask to your friend or relative to pay
your device for you.

It's *very* hard to get a Internet Tablet in South America. I've spent
more than $400 only with taxes and shipment to import my N800 to
Brazil. The price of N800 with my developer's program discount code
was $125 ~€99.

Thanks,
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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Danilo Cesar wrote:
> Or, is there other options to developers who lives outside the countries 
> that maemo program covers?

Yes, I believe the terms are worded in such way that you can apply if 
you have someone in one of those countries who will buy the device for 
you. See point 2 in http://maemo.org/device/terms/ , the part "or you 
have a valid address in that country where the purchased device can be 
sent" i.e. you have address of your friend or relative.

Frantisek
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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Henri Bergius
On 10/18/07, Andrea Grandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've registred to maemo.org creating an account. I got the
> confirmation email from maemo.org and I was able to log into the
> "garage". But if I go to www.maemo.org and I try to enter my user and
> password I cannot login :(

There is some delay before accounts are replicated from Gforge to
Midgard. Try again a bit later.


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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Danilo Cesar
Is there a chance of N810 be sold in some country of South America?

Or, is there other options to developers who lives outside the countries 
that maemo program covers?

[]'s!

Danilo

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UFPR - Ciência da Computação
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Quim Gil wrote:
> It's out now: 
> 
> http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html
> 
> Keeping the good tradition, we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet
> Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon
> as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program
> starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to
> get a device for 99€ (or equivalent price in other currencies). 
> 
> The call is addressed not only to open source programmers, but also to
> designers, documentation writers, community supporters, maemo
> evangelists, bloggers… In order to apply go to your maemo profile (same
> login as the so-called Garage account) and make your request there.
> Please read carefully the instructions, terms and conditions. 
> 
> Some time next week we will provide more details about the selection
> process, but this is the basic you need to know:
> 
>   * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
> invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
> won't help you.
>   * Nokia & related professionals stay out. In case of doubt don’t
> ask: apply.
>   * Open contributions & community involvement are the main rules to
> select the winners, but newcomers can get merits by proposing
> creative ideas requiring such device (open source and non-profit
> are a must).
>   * The 500 discount codes will be distributed the same day the N810
> is available for purchase in the online Nokia shops.
> PS: We will develop more functionality around these profiles, as
> detailed in the maemo CRM requirements. Stay tuned.
> 
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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Hello Quim,

maybe wiki page with questions&answers would be good again.

Q: Is the code really tied to specific country or only to region 
(US/Europe) like before? Can I change the country in future?

The form needs to fill specific country in field "Nokia shop to get the 
device from". Can I select some country now but change it later to some 
other (European) country if something goes wrong with the "you have a 
valid address in that country where the purchased device can be sent" 
condition in future? (see 2. NOKIA ONLINE SHOPS 
https://maemo.org/device/terms/)

Frantisek

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Re: N810 maemo device program open for submissions

2007-10-18 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

I've registred to maemo.org creating an account. I got the
confirmation email from maemo.org and I was able to log into the
"garage". But if I go to www.maemo.org and I try to enter my user and
password I cannot login :(

The login page is always shown and I'm not able to login.

My username is: andreagrandi

could someone please check if there are any problems on my account? Thanks!

2007/10/18, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It's out now:
>
> http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html
>
> Keeping the good tradition, we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet
> Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon
> as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program
> starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to
> get a device for 99€ (or equivalent price in other currencies).
>
> The call is addressed not only to open source programmers, but also to
> designers, documentation writers, community supporters, maemo
> evangelists, bloggers… In order to apply go to your maemo profile (same
> login as the so-called Garage account) and make your request there.
> Please read carefully the instructions, terms and conditions.
>
> Some time next week we will provide more details about the selection
> process, but this is the basic you need to know:
>
>   * Contributors apply themselves through their maemo profiles. No
> invitation is needed. Please don't send us extra emails, they
> won't help you.
>   * Nokia & related professionals stay out. In case of doubt don't
> ask: apply.
>   * Open contributions & community involvement are the main rules to
> select the winners, but newcomers can get merits by proposing
> creative ideas requiring such device (open source and non-profit
> are a must).
>   * The 500 discount codes will be distributed the same day the N810
> is available for purchase in the online Nokia shops.
> PS: We will develop more functionality around these profiles, as
> detailed in the maemo CRM requirements. Stay tuned.
>
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