Re: MD: Future of MD
Billy Hetherington wrote: I believe if Sony learns to push the right advertising buttons, they may convince music pirates everywhere that MD is a much better method of storing MP3 audio for portable playback. Have you ever priced Smart Media or CompactFlash memory upgrades? Or the price of Sony's new Memory Stick upgrades? The reason MP3 caught on is because people are cheap. When they realise that MiniDisc will save them money in the long run, then MD will catch on. Plus people need to realise the limitations of MP3 only players, mostly that you NEED a computer to do any music editing or recording functions with most of these units. I think soon we'll see MD players that can access email, organize notes, etc. I think a neat idea would be for Sony to make portable MD Data drives the size of the current players, that can play back conventional audio discs as well as MP3. The machine could connect to a USB port and you could have 140 mb of MP3 on a disc that costs a few bucks. Just imagine the hype that would surround the MiniDisc then !! Yeah, MD media is MUCH cheaper than CF or SmartMedia. I think even if the MP3's were converted to regular ATRAC and the MD's could only hold 74 or 80 minutes of audio, as long as putting MP3's on MD were FASTER and EASIER, it would make it a hot seller. A simple MD recorder with USB interface would be good enough. Not that cheesy USB to TOSLINK thing, but a real USB interface that could transfer audio data at MUCH faster than realtime. The USB interface should also allow transferring track names, and operating the MD recorder from the PC. In fact, to make the MD recorder cheaper, MP3 to ATRAC conversion could occur on the PC side with no conversion hardware/software required in the recorder itself. Of course, the ability to hold 140MB of MP3's would be great, but there also needs to be an ATRAC conversion mode to allow the discs to be usable on legacy equipment. About the MD recorder that can access email and organize notes... I was fantasizing about something like that when I did that April Fools Palm Pilot/MD recorder combo thing. Now I've come to discover that some company has a Palm Pilot clone (called Visor I think) that has an expansion slot. Supposedly there's an MP3 player card that makes this PDA into a fullblown portable MP3 player, and I think it can also access internet and email. Now if only it had an MD drive in it! Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: Does anyone get the feel that the market support for MD is reaching a very critical juncture? Panasonic has declared MD a competitor format and will have nothing to do with it, touting their MP3/solidstate portables as the future of audio. What does Sony stand to gain by retaining legal ownership of the MD disc patents/rights and the MD logo vs. what they stand to lose if the format doesn't catch on in the next 2yrs or so in the US/Canada/much of Europe? I'm just concerned over this possible replay of Betamax...may the best format lose as it were... Locally, MD has already gone the way of Betamax! Best Buy has all but eliminated all their MD displays, Circuit City never had it. So sad, back in '98, it looked like MD was really taking off, as Best Buy had started reselling MD prerecs and had an aisle dedicated to MD. Sears and Service Merchandise also had a lot of MD stuff. Now... not so much. I guess that means there isn't much hope of MD ever showing up in mainstream places like Big K-Mart and Wal-Mart. As much as I'd like to see MD become as successful as CD and DVD, I don't think it'll happen unless the idea guys at Sony/Sharp/etc find a better way to get MP3 integrated with MD. Why MP3? It seems to be all the rage, and could be something that really helps MD go main stream. Oh well, as long as I can still mail order blanks and equipment, I'd be happy even if I were the last MD user on the planet. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD - CD Deck
Does anyone know where there is a deck with both a minidisc and a CD-R in it.. I want to be able to copy MD directly to CD without using a computer at preferably greater than 1x, all the CD/MD decks I have seen are CD players not CD-R Thanks Ben Hatton - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Future of MD
Depends on the unit. If you had a JA30ES, like I do, and had to replace the optical block, like I did, then you'd pay the AUD$300 to get it done too, even though the unit was purchased factory second (scratch on the back of the casing) for AUD$950. I would have done it myself, but I was only going on instinct and did not have a spare laser power meter to confirm my suspicion. Too expensive a gamble to make, even though the symptoms were mildly obvious. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. Coon Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2000 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MD: Future of MD The way my 510 was repaired, and some other horror stories I've heard on this list, if it ain't under warranty, you aren't gonna get it repaired anyway, 'cause the cost is prohibitive. Disposible, I guess. If it breaks go get another one and cry a lot. IMHO. I'm glad my 510 was under warranty, 'cause they never did fix it and ended up giving me a new one. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
Tony Antoniou wrote: I honestly don't see that being an issue. All this negativity may be substantiated by the reaction of some of the major US retail chains, but I think MD has a stronger future than what we give it credit for. And if the companies would just get wise and come out with some models designed for musicians, they would sell even more. Musicians want something that is easy to use, can play back at a slower speeds, and not shift the tone or key of the tune, can change the key if desired, is high quality recording, absent tape hiss, would let you play a track back and record to a second track at the same time, not cost an arm and a leg. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Future of MD
What about pre-recs? But nonetheless, working at a major electronics chain myself, I can quite happily say that MD has a safe future, given the amount of people who come in and buy blanks from me (and from the various branches that I've worked at). Anyway, why do we have to be so damn bleak about it? Why not just take it for granted and make the most of it, whether it has a future or not?? Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Hooper Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2000 4:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MD: Future of MD Over here in Sunny England, MD is slowly but surely finding its feet. All the Virgin Megastores and HMV stores have MD aisles, all the chains (Tandy, Dixon, Comet, Currys, PC-World, Richer Sounds, John Lewis, Index, Argos, etc) sell MD portables, MD systems and MD separates... This would not have been the case a year ago, or even six months ago. Seems to me like MD is actually beginning to take off (here)! (But it could also be just a fad with slow momentum. Hard to tell, unfortunately) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: correction to previous msg
"Finaly it says that America owns the US market because of criminal practises like flooding. " = "Finaly it says that JAPAN owns the US market because of criminal practises like flooding. " sorry! Billy Hetherington PS - I hope this posting doesn't offend anyone! I am simply curious about the Japanese industry! Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
Tony Antoniou wrote, | Anyway, why do we have to be so damn bleak about it? Why not just take it | for granted and make the most of it, whether it has a future or not?? I'm a little bleak about this aspect: if MD vanishes in the US, yes, I can buy order hardware and discs by mail order, but what about repairs? That's what concerns me. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Do the Japanese really steal American technology??
I know this sounds dumb because I am equating a work of fiction to reality, but I recently finished reading the Rising Sun by Michael Chricton. In this book it is basically stated repeatedely that many technologies were engineered in the U.S. (like TV and many computer technologies) and the US gov't wouldnt help with patents and so-on, so the Japanese bought all the stuff up. It said also that Japan is a closed market to foreigners and that Japan disallows its people to buy American and European technology. Finaly it says that America owns the US market because of criminal practises like flooding. Is any of this true?? Oh yeah and it also says that Japan sells its technology cheaper here in order to capture the market here, but that the US gov't refuses to take action, because Japan has paid them all off. Personally I don't care because I will buy always buy Japanese technology which is great quality, but if it is true I just hope we never piss Japan off :). Billy Hetherington Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
Over here in Sunny England, MD is slowly but surely finding its feet. All the Virgin Megastores and HMV stores have MD aisles, all the chains (Tandy, Dixon, Comet, Currys, PC-World, Richer Sounds, John Lewis, Index, Argos, etc) sell MD portables, MD systems and MD separates... This would not have been the case a year ago, or even six months ago. Seems to me like MD is actually beginning to take off (here)! (But it could also be just a fad with slow momentum. Hard to tell, unfortunately) - Original Message - From: "Shawn R. Lin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:32 AM Subject: Re: MD: Future of MD Locally, MD has already gone the way of Betamax! Best Buy has all but eliminated all their MD displays, Circuit City never had it. So sad, back in '98, it looked like MD was really taking off, as Best Buy had started reselling MD prerecs and had an aisle dedicated to MD. Sears and Service Merchandise also had a lot of MD stuff. Now... not so much. I guess that means there isn't much hope of MD ever showing up in mainstream places like Big K-Mart and Wal-Mart. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: 3 FREE Minidisc OFFER !!! Take a look...
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RE: MD: Future of MD
I honestly don't see that being an issue. All this negativity may be substantiated by the reaction of some of the major US retail chains, but I think MD has a stronger future than what we give it credit for. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David W. Tamkin Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2000 9:21 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MD: Future of MD Tony Antoniou wrote, | Anyway, why do we have to be so damn bleak about it? Why not just take it | for granted and make the most of it, whether it has a future or not?? I'm a little bleak about this aspect: if MD vanishes in the US, yes, I can buy order hardware and discs by mail order, but what about repairs? That's what concerns me. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: RE: Future of MD
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 08:56:19 -0400 From: Eric Woudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Future of MD ~ - ~ Could you tell me where you heard this? That was a paraphrase from the vice CEO of Panasonic corp. I was placed in touch with him when I started asking around for sellers of MD read/write heads. ~ - ~ Rick Someone also mentioned that they thought a USB drive running at faster than real-time would cause the MD format to take off MD, sadly, is not realistically going to be write capable at much faster than x2 due to the nature of the media and it's thermal dissipation rate. The good news is that x2 raw speed rate is still ~10x audio record due to ATRAC (assuming that the ATRAC algorithm could be run at 10x). Now if only Sharp would violate their license agreement with Sony and build one RJ K - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MZ-R50 woes
Greetings. My beloved MZ-R50 is having problems. It started about 2 weeks ago when I attempted to record a CD to my MD using a brand new Minidisco disc. With about 8 min left on the MD, the MD unit itself started to make very loud skipping and clicking noises. I hit stop and the MD started to write to the TOC of the disc. I then played back the track where the noises started. The music skipped a great deal, coming in and out. I suspected that it was a bad MD disc and tried another brand new Minidisco disk. Again , I had the same problem with about 6-8 min. left. I gave one of the suspected "Bad discs" to a co-worker who recorded on it that night. He had no problems. I also tried non-minidisco discs, once in a while, the same problem. Other times no problems at all. I then figured the discs were fine and that it was my unit. Prior to today, I only experienced the crazy skipping and clicking noises during SOME recordings. (On two occasions, the md started to act up with exactly 8:59 left - weird eh?) Well, today, the MD started to skip during playback on an old recording I did about 2 years ago (this disc is fine as a friend listened to it too) So, I think it's about time I suck it up and admit my MD unit may have a problem. I called a shop here in NYC and was quoted 80$ plus parts for repair - whatever the problem may be. I guess what I'm asking is if anyone out here has had this problem before, how much did it cost to repair, and if it is worth it. I'm ALMOST willing to buy another MD unit, but I haven't a clue which one to buy - I really, really like the MZ-R50 unit - the battery life is okay, and it has a line out (which is very important to me). Does anyone have suggestions about a model for me too look? Unit doesn't have to be the smallest, battery life is more important, hopefully a line out (analog is okay), and a remote would be nice =) Any advice would be very appreciated. -keith - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD to CD
I am not aware of any stand alone device that will let you play a MD and record it to a CD. Roger wrote: Hey guys, I have a bunch of MD's that I would like to burn onto CD's on my new computer. I have an SB Live with SPDIF in/out and a MZ-R55. I realise that I can't digitally hook my portable up to my computer so I was wondering what the forum thinks the best solution is for me? Should I just get the cheapest MD deck possible and hook that up to my computer with cables (what does the cable look like that hooks to SPDIF?) or would -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
The way my 510 was repaired, and some other horror stories I've heard on this list, if it ain't under warranty, you aren't gonna get it repaired anyway, 'cause the cost is prohibitive. Disposible, I guess. If it breaks go get another one and cry a lot. IMHO. I'm glad my 510 was under warranty, 'cause they never did fix it and ended up giving me a new one. "David W. Tamkin" wrote: Tony Antoniou wrote, | Anyway, why do we have to be so damn bleak about it? Why not just take it | for granted and make the most of it, whether it has a future or not?? I'm a little bleak about this aspect: if MD vanishes in the US, yes, I can buy order hardware and discs by mail order, but what about repairs? That's what concerns me. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: digital laptops
Hello- Is there a sound card/external device that allows digital transfers between laptops and MD decks? I have a Thinkpad 600E and would love to record w/o a desktop PC. Thanks. Steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD to CD
On Wed, 10 May 2000 08:26:48 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I have a bunch of MD's that I would like to burn onto CD's on my new computer. I have an SB Live with SPDIF in/out and a MZ-R55. I realise that I can't digitally hook my portable up to my computer so I was wondering what the forum thinks the best solution is for me? I guess it's probably gonna come down to cost vs ease, and perhaps sound quality - 'though that may be difficult to quantify, depending on your setup and use. If your prepared to go with the attributable sound quality from recording CDs using a sound card, is using a 3.5 jack to jack cable (MD - soundcard) gonna be that much of a compromise? Should I just get the cheapest MD deck possible and hook that up to my computer with cables (what does the cable look like that hooks to SPDIF?) Not exactly sure of what you mean here, do you mean what do the connectors look like? or would it be easier to get a CD-MD deck which allows me to do all the transferring between MD and CD in one unit? Certainly would be easier - I'm rather assuming there are CD recordable decks and MD decks in the one unit, but I'd guess there are - I just don't follow them that closely. Most people tend to wanna go the other way around. Any recommendations on decks? (keep in mind I only buy Sony MD products) Why *only* Sony MD products? I think it would be cheaper to do it on computer and I've heard that the CD-MD deck uses a different kind of blank CD-R's anyway. As it is right now, I can record MD's to WAV files through a cheap minijack onto burned CD's, but it's a real pain because I don't get track marks and I think (?) the quality might be lower. I do wonder if you'd notice the difference, in the majority of instances. Obviously this is gonna depend on expectations and appplication, but for ages I've been recording MD's digitally (bookshelf unit), but when it was in for repair, a month or so back, I did record a few MDs using analogue connections - a couple of times from the analogue audio outs on my DVD player, and last night using the analogue audio outs from my VCR - and I have to say I've been more than happy with the recordings. No doubt the use of high quality audio equipment would show the limitations of these methods, but given that I mainly use MDs in my car (MD head unit) and in my portable, I don't really notice much (if any) tangible differences from the digital recordings. The main thing I want out of this purchase is to be able to burn my MD's onto CD in a single operation, all the tracks will be retained on the CD (less work). I would have thought that if slightly more additional money wasn't an issue, a deck would be the way to go. I don't have titles, so that doesn't matter Are there any decks that will transfer MD titles to CD text? (genuine question) --it's just the track marks I desire, and the original sound quality. There's always going to be some compromise on quality using most retail soundcards, mainly because of all the noise and compromised shielding. Also, is there some sort of software that makes it easy to do this, or would it be just like now, where I have to do everything manually? Please help. Can't really help on this, don't really do much audio stuff on my PC. Cheers Neil ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD to CD
Hey guys, I have a bunch of MD's that I would like to burn onto CD's on my new computer. I have an SB Live with SPDIF in/out and a MZ-R55. I realise that I can't digitally hook my portable up to my computer so I was wondering what the forum thinks the best solution is for me? Should I just get the cheapest MD deck possible and hook that up to my computer with cables (what does the cable look like that hooks to SPDIF?) or would it be easier to get a CD-MD deck which allows me to do all the transferring between MD and CD in one unit? Any recommendations on decks? (keep in mind I only buy Sony MD products) I think it would be cheaper to do it on computer and I've heard that the CD-MD deck uses a different kind of blank CD-R's anyway. As it is right now, I can record MD's to WAV files through a cheap minijack onto burned CD's, but it's a real pain because I don't get track marks and I think (?) the quality might be lower. The main thing I want out of this purchase is to be able to burn my MD's onto CD in a single operation, all the tracks will be retained on the CD (less work). I don't have titles, so that doesn't matter--it's just the track marks I desire, and the original sound quality. Also, is there some sort of software that makes it easy to do this, or would it be just like now, where I have to do everything manually? Please help. thanks, Roger T. Hunter "A mind is a precious thing to taste..." -Sublime ==Model Citizen #1== "Fight the good fight..." -1 Timothy 6:12 zroregor~/ude.mwu.www "We fear change." -Garth - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: RE: Future of MD
bla bla bla erased Someone also mentioned that they thought a USB drive running at faster than real-time would cause the MD format to take off MD, sadly, is not realistically going to be write capable at much faster than x2 due to the nature of the media and it's thermal dissipation rate. The good news is that x2 raw speed rate is still ~10x audio record due to ATRAC (assuming that the ATRAC algorithm could be run at 10x). Now if only Sharp would violate their i disagree and say this last statement is wrong, sony already has a 4x copying unit out license agreement with Sony and build one RJ K - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: which is the best new portable?
I find the Sharp 831 plays brilliantly but records badly ... but then again my only experience of MD recorders is my Sharp 831 But I've played back discs recorded on standalone MD decks and they sound FAR superior to anything I've recorded (by whatever means) on my 831 . :( - Original Message - From: "Antonio Banderas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:17 AM Subject: MD: which is the best new portable? Hey Billy Minidisco is a pretty good company. I just got my Sharp 831 and it plays Better than all the negative reviews I've read. There are some negatives but like all Things there anr pros and cons. I saw the R90 in a store and it is tiny. If portability is your concern then Sony is the way to go. But the sharp is a good buy. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: RE: Future of MD
At 13:32 10/05/00 -0400, you wrote: what about Sony's CD-MD combo that writes at 4x? have there been issues with that? I vaugely recall guidelines for getting 4x, but most of them seemed to be stuff like the cd not being balanced due to labels, or excessive cover art on the disc. I don't recall there being a problem with the MD media. Here's a thought: How do CD-ROM drives work at over 48x then? Also aren't the kiosks they're setting up in Japan writing at like 8x? I don't think the MD is the problem in this... Can't really comment, but I suspect it's probably getting the technology at a reasonable price - these kiosks (which I haven't heard about) will probably cover their own development/production costs - are they for downloading music onto MD or something? At the end of the day, Zip and CD-R/RW are basically THE formats which everyone uses for large(ish) capacity removeable media (like bigger than a floppy), apart from stuff like DAT/DLT, etc. I can't really see MD taking off as a removeable storage format. What they need to do is produce an MD deck or portable with a USB interface on it or something, which is purely designed for audio, because all people are really using MD for in a big way is audio. thoughts??? -Jeffrey Chrz, Wrighty - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-R50 woes
again, an avid fan of the MzR-90/91...if u need recording capabilities, battery life is fantastic, it is small even though that wasnt a requirement and inside the nice menu system there is a feature that turns the headphone jack into a true audio out...just a suggestion hope this helps. My opinion regarding the cost of repair (80$) when you can get a new mz50 for probably not much more than twice that, and a new 90 for around 310 just doesnt seem worth it, 70s are also inexpensive, I'd probably try to stick with sony though sidenote; Not sure if the 70 has a feature to turn headphone into audio out - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: RE: Future of MD
sorry and I know this doesnt really apply but I dont know how or even if this is possible but is it possible to recieve this list in digest format? ? tks in advance. ~J~ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: RE: Future of MD
what about Sony's CD-MD combo that writes at 4x? have there been issues with that? I vaugely recall guidelines for getting 4x, but most of them seemed to be stuff like the cd not being balanced due to labels, or excessive cover art on the disc. I don't recall there being a problem with the MD media. Also aren't the kiosks they're setting up in Japan writing at like 8x? I don't think the MD is the problem in this... thoughts??? -Jeffrey Someone also mentioned that they thought a USB drive running at faster than real-time would cause the MD format to take off MD, sadly, is not realistically going to be write capable at much faster than x2 due to the nature of the media and it's thermal dissipation rate. The good news is that x2 raw speed rate is still ~10x audio record due to ATRAC (assuming that the ATRAC algorithm could be run at 10x). Now if only Sharp would violate their license agreement with Sony and build one RJ K - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
Albert Tanone wrote: Does that mean that the survival of MD in North America is tied to the # of people w/ a computer vs. audiophiles? (Actually, audiophiles don't use MD but but musicians do! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === A Palm Pilot with MD that can play MP3, ATRAC, etc. would be cool. Maybe MD optical technology is too old? Check out this new optical storage technology at http://www.dataplay.com/ Even a MD player with fully digital USB port for downloading music files from a PC would be cool that played both ATRAC and MP3 formats, but the consumer electronic companies will never do it because of copyright and piracy issues. It would be too easy to copy, distribute, and use songs from purchased CDs. The music industry is all over that right now. Chris "Shawn R. Lin" wrote: Billy Hetherington wrote: I believe if Sony learns to push the right advertising buttons, they may convince music pirates everywhere that MD is a much better method of storing MP3 audio for portable playback. Have you ever priced Smart Media or CompactFlash memory upgrades? Or the price of Sony's new Memory Stick upgrades? The reason MP3 caught on is because people are cheap. When they realise that MiniDisc will save them money in the long run, then MD will catch on. Plus people need to realise the limitations of MP3 only players, mostly that you NEED a computer to do any music editing or recording functions with most of these units. I think soon we'll see MD players that can access email, organize notes, etc. I think a neat idea would be for Sony to make portable MD Data drives the size of the current players, that can play back conventional audio discs as well as MP3. The machine could connect to a USB port and you could have 140 mb of MP3 on a disc that costs a few bucks. Just imagine the hype that would surround the MiniDisc then !! Yeah, MD media is MUCH cheaper than CF or SmartMedia. I think even if the MP3's were converted to regular ATRAC and the MD's could only hold 74 or 80 minutes of audio, as long as putting MP3's on MD were FASTER and EASIER, it would make it a hot seller. A simple MD recorder with USB interface would be good enough. Not that cheesy USB to TOSLINK thing, but a real USB interface that could transfer audio data at MUCH faster than realtime. The USB interface should also allow transferring track names, and operating the MD recorder from the PC. In fact, to make the MD recorder cheaper, MP3 to ATRAC conversion could occur on the PC side with no conversion hardware/software required in the recorder itself. Of course, the ability to hold 140MB of MP3's would be great, but there also needs to be an ATRAC conversion mode to allow the discs to be usable on legacy equipment. About the MD recorder that can access email and organize notes... I was fantasizing about something like that when I did that April Fools Palm Pilot/MD recorder combo thing. Now I've come to discover that some company has a Palm Pilot clone (called Visor I think) that has an expansion slot. Supposedly there's an MP3 player card that makes this PDA into a fullblown portable MP3 player, and I think it can also access internet and email. Now if only it had an MD drive in it! Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Do the Japanese really steal American technology?? A bit OT, but never mind
Not just American technology... I think you'll find that TV was invented in Scotland by a Scotsman, John Logie Baird. He was from Helensburgh, just across the Clyde from my hometown, Greenock (home to James Watt, inventor of the condensing steam engine...) And the inventor of the computer was probably also from Britain. Take your pick from Babbage, Turing, Flowers, the General Post Office etc etc. And MD was actually invented by a man called Boab from Possilpark in Glasgow. No, sorry, I made that last bit up. The problem, especially in the UK, is the short-sightedness of capital. A UK bank will want a return on its investment within five years. Japanese institutions take a longer view, and will allow up to 25 years for a return. Imagine trying to get your cash back from MD in five years. That's why no UK firm can back up the research with production. See the whole of UK manufacturing for examples. I imagine the US is similar. Hoots! Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Billy Hetherington Sent: 10 May 2000 18:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Do the Japanese really steal American technology?? I know this sounds dumb because I am equating a work of fiction to reality, but I recently finished reading the Rising Sun by Michael Chricton. In this book it is basically stated repeatedely that many technologies were engineered in the U.S. (like TV and many computer technologies) and the US gov't wouldnt help with patents and so-on, so the Japanese bought all the stuff up. It said also that Japan is a closed market to foreigners and that Japan disallows its people to buy American and European technology. Finaly it says that America owns the US market because of criminal practises like flooding. Is any of this true?? Oh yeah and it also says that Japan sells its technology cheaper here in order to capture the market here, but that the US gov't refuses to take action, because Japan has paid them all off. Personally I don't care because I will buy always buy Japanese technology which is great quality, but if it is true I just hope we never piss Japan off :). Billy Hetherington Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: MD: MD - CD Deck
| Does anyone know where there is a deck with both a minidisc | and a CD-R in it.. You could use an MD deck plus a CDR recorder; the transfer runs at 1x but there's no computer involved. Note ... be careful of SCMS limitations. If the original MD was recorded digitally, you *may* not be able to make another digital copy to CDR. (This applies to most consumer equipment) A SCMS stripper or a "professional" CD recorder maybe needed in this case. (read in extra $$$'s). Cheers GC - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Re: RE: Future of MD
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:57:10 -0500 From: "Matthew Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: RE: Future of MD bla bla bla erased i disagree and say this last statement is wrong, sony already has a 4x copying unit out Sony's drive works at 4x CD speed...that is important. The MD side is still running at 1x due to the fact that the CD data is compressed 4:1 it can sustain at effectively 4x CD speed, NOT MD speed. RJ K - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: RE: Future of MD
You are correct the MD data mechanism is not an issue. As I said, if the disc can write at a raw 2x then the audio can be written at 10x (due to ~5:1 compression of ATRAC). The issue with that sort of high speed compression is that it is either not going to sound very good, or it isn't going to be cheap. Sony as per their SOP went for sound good, but cost a fortune... the prices will go down since it is an ASIC and once they have used it in a generation or two the cost per chip becomes insignificant. But Sony has yet to allow for an interface other than CD-MD due to fear of reprisals from the music industry (of which they are of course apart). SCSI/USB/IE1394(firewire, i-wire)-MD is easy and just makes sense. But they will not do it. C'est la Sony, RJ K Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:32:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Scorsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MD: RE: Future of MD what about Sony's CD-MD combo that writes at 4x? have there been issues with that? I vaugely recall guidelines for getting 4x, but most of them seemed to be stuff like the cd not being balanced due to labels, or excessive cover art on the disc. I don't recall there being a problem with the MD media. Also aren't the kiosks they're setting up in Japan writing at like 8x? I don't think the MD is the problem in this... thoughts??? - -Jeffrey - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: MD: Where can I get the Joint Text cable?? (RK-TXT1)
Billy Hetherington wrote: I digitally record between an MZ-R90 and a D-EJ710 discman, and I would like to do CDTEXT copying, but cannot locate the appropriate cable As I understand the instructions, you have to press buttons to copy the title FOR EACH TRACK. Given that I have read here that many CD's have their CDTEXT copy protected (?), I don't think it's worth the hassle. simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Future of MD
On Wed, 10 May 2000, Shawn R. Lin wrote: better way to get MP3 integrated with MD. Why MP3? It seems to be all the rage, and could be something that really helps MD go main stream. One of the key issue that I see keeps popping up is that "You need to spend a few hundred dollars for a computer system to be able to find MP3 players useful." Does that mean that the survival of MD in North America is tied to the # of people w/ a computer vs. audiophiles? (Actually, audiophiles don't use MD but that's another story... ;) ) Oh well, as long as I can still mail order blanks and equipment, I'd be happy even if I were the last MD user on the planet. True.. true.. Albert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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