Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:08:41 -0600, "Francisco J. Huerta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever you insert your remote control, the unit switches to Headphone Out automatically. And there is no way to switch to Line Out. So, don't chop the connector. It will be useless anyway. Interesting ... my MZ-R50 does not do that when I insert the remote. But your 900 line out goes DEAD when the remote is plugged in? When did this advancement show up in the Sony recorders? I too use a (total) Airhead and this sort of concerns me, excepting I hardly use the remote. I could see how it could be handy however. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:31:03 -0500, "Dan Scellen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, as PrinceGaz said, the question is whether or not the remote needs the 3.5mm (probably not), and whether or not the remote connectors are strong enough (probably). Go for it Niels. Personally I think the best soln is to not buy the E900, or return it, and go with an R900 that has a separate line out (I assume it does, as does my R50). Problem solved and some flexibility with the recorder is added. I don't use my R50 much for recording but it comes in handy enough to justify the additional $80-100 cost. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:48:38 -0400, "Michael Burger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I continue to suggest plugging the remote into the unit, getting a short extension, plugging the male 3.5mm stem of the extension into the 3.5mm hole on the remote, and plugging the 3.5mm stem of the airhead into the 3.5mm hole in the extension cable. Yes ... or simply not use the remote when the Airhead is in use. I carry my R50 and Total Airhead all the time without using the remote. Of course with the R50 I have two physically separate outputs (headphone and line out) but I simply don't hassle with the remote when portable. I don't need it when using it from a desk or other stationary surface. So, as I see it the practial solutions are ... 1. don't use the remote when the Airhead is in use or 2. return the E900 for an R900 (or whatever LPMD unit has a physically separate line out) -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:18:09 -0600 (CST), "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line- out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head- phones on the other I cannot guess On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:17:06 -, "Dave Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may find, however, that whenever the remote is plugged in, the output of the unit switches from line-out to headphone-out. This would be very unfortunate. Does the one output of the E900 serve as both a line out (with no volume adjustment) or a headphone out (a so the volume is adjustable)? If so I did not appreciate this previously. However if this were the case then the volume adjustment circuit, well ... I guess it's taken out of the signal path electronically rather than mechanically. So the signal has a more direct path to the jack and therefore less chance of distortion ... which is the desired result, a 'straight wire' path to the Airhead. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === The R900 does not have a separate line out. The same jack is used and there's a "software" switch for switching between phones and line out. Also, if you plug in the remote, it would not switch to line out mode. Leon on 2/24/01 11:06 AM, John Small at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:31:03 -0500, "Dan Scellen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, as PrinceGaz said, the question is whether or not the remote needs the 3.5mm (probably not), and whether or not the remote connectors are strong enough (probably). Go for it Niels. Personally I think the best soln is to not buy the E900, or return it, and go with an R900 that has a separate line out (I assume it does, as does my R50). Problem solved and some flexibility with the recorder is added. I don't use my R50 much for recording but it comes in handy enough to justify the additional $80-100 cost. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
"David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the new Sony playback-only units don't have an auto-switch headphone/line jack. They are headphone-ONLY. Several people have posted that the same jack acts as a line-out under certain circumstances. But David, NOT on the new Sony players. There are two kinds of "combo" jacks: the kind used on many Sharp models that automatically sense the impedance of the attached device/cable, and change to line/headphone appropriately; and the kind used on many Sony recorder units that can be manually switched between line/headphone by the user. The jack on the new Sony players is NEITHER (caps for clarity, not volume ;)). It is headphone-only, and cannot act as a line out. This is according to Sony. Hope this clarifies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. There is no separate line out on the E900? Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I'm not sure I understand. The remote plug goes into the unit, and your headphone plug should plug into the remote plug. How, again, is this a problem? On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote: Hi, I've recently purchased a sony e-900 md player. And I'm plannng to purchase a headroom airhead, and etymotic er4s. But, my e-900 has got only 1 headphone out. When I want to use my airhead, I will have to plug it in to the md player. Normally this means that I will not be able to use my remote because the 'remote plug' and the headphone jack are put in 1 plug. My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. Kind regards, Niels Schenk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I don't think so, at least the md community pages don't specify it, I haven't actually recieved it yet, so I can't see it myself. Niels John Small wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. There is no separate line out on the E900? Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I don't think line out would help...unless his headphones have a separately powered amplifier. Of course, I'm working on the assumption that the "airhead" is some sort of headphone set. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, John Small wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. There is no separate line out on the E900? Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote. Mike Burger wrote: === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I'm not sure I understand. The remote plug goes into the unit, and your headphone plug should plug into the remote plug. How, again, is this a problem? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Nope, I verified that the e900 hasn't got line out. Niels John Small wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. There is no separate line out on the E900? Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
That's extremely odd. Does the remote work when you use a regular headphone? On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote: The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote. Mike Burger wrote: I'm not sure I understand. The remote plug goes into the unit, and your headphone plug should plug into the remote plug. How, again, is this a problem? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's that it doesn't work for his needs. If he plugs in the airhead after the remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and the remote. He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead. Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use. This way, he can tuck away the airhead along with the E900. I, however, have no solution for you. Dan That's extremely odd. Does the remote work when you use a regular headphone? On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote: The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote. Mike Burger wrote: I'm not sure I understand. The remote plug goes into the unit, and your headphone plug should plug into the remote plug. How, again, is this a problem? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Dan, that's exactly what I mean! Too bad you don't have a solution for it. Niels Dan Scellen wrote: From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's that it doesn't work for his needs. If he plugs in the airhead after the remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and the remote. He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead. Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use. This way, he can tuck away the airhead along with the E900. I, however, have no solution for you. Dan That's extremely odd. Does the remote work when you use a regular headphone? On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote: The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote. Mike Burger wrote: I'm not sure I understand. The remote plug goes into the unit, and your headphone plug should plug into the remote plug. How, again, is this a problem? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
I guess there are two questions which need to be answered... 1) Electrical- does the remote's circuitry use any of the headphone plug contacts, most likely, does it use the common ground contact in addition to those on the remote connector part. If so then youre scuppered, but the two parts of the plug may be electrically seperate, ie the remote may have its own ground contact. 2) Mechanical- is the remote contact strong enough to withstand normal use on the move without the 3.5mm plug to provide a sort of anchor. As the only remote I have used is the ancient R3 one (a simple resistor network without backlit displays and the like), I'm afraid I can't answer either question myself. Oh well, best of luck, someone is sure to come up with something here. PrinceGaz. From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's that it doesn't work for his needs. If he plugs in the airhead after the remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and the remote. He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead. Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use. This way, he can tuck away the airhead along with the E900. I, however, have no solution for you. Dan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
John Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. There is no separate line out on the E900? Thanks. Nope, and that's my only complaint about the E900. In fact, I don't believe any of the new Sony *players* has a line-out. That means that the Airhead, which should be used with a line-out, will have to be used with the headphone jack instead. It can be done, but sound quality suffers. To answer the original question, if you want to use the remote, you would plug the Airhead's line into the headphone jack on the remote instead of on the main unit. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:07:26 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, I verified that the e900 hasn't got line out. Thanks ... that's important information as I too use an Airhead amp and much prefer the line out rather than the headphone connection. I guess when I buy a portable LP device it will be a player/recorder. Thanks again. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:10 -0500 (EST), Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think line out would help...unless his headphones have a separately powered amplifier. Of course, I'm working on the assumption that the "airhead" is some sort of headphone set. The Airhead is indeed a powered headphone amp. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === You know...there is a solution. Radio shack, Circuit City, Best Buy, etc...all have mini-stereo extension cables...you can get a short one (or even make one, if you want to buy connectors and have the temerity to do so), plug the mail end into your remote, and the headphone plug into the female end on the other end. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote: Dan, that's exactly what I mean! Too bad you don't have a solution for it. Niels Dan Scellen wrote: From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's that it doesn't work for his needs. If he plugs in the airhead after the remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and the remote. He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead. Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use. This way, he can tuck away the airhead along with the E900. I, however, have no solution for you. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Thanks for the clarification. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, John Small wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:10 -0500 (EST), Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think line out would help...unless his headphones have a separately powered amplifier. Of course, I'm working on the assumption that the "airhead" is some sort of headphone set. The Airhead is indeed a powered headphone amp. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Thanks for the reply Francisco (althought this REALLY sucks). Niels The Airhead doesn't sound half bad when connected to the headphone terminal on the remote control. But it sounds a lot better when you switch to "Line Out". But... Whenever you insert your remote control, the unit switches to Headphone Out automatically. And there is no way to switch to Line Out. So, don't chop the connector. It will be useless anyway. Solution? Not to use the remote control. I had to get used to it =( Francisco. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
The Airhead doesn't sound half bad when connected to the headphone terminal on the remote control. But it sounds a lot better when you switch to "Line Out". But... Whenever you insert your remote control, the unit switches to Headphone Out automatically. And there is no way to switch to Line Out. So, don't chop the connector. It will be useless anyway. Solution? Not to use the remote control. I had to get used to it =( Francisco. - Original Message - From: "Dan Scellen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had a separate line-out. Second, there are Y-adaptors for 3.5mm stereo connections. I have several among my tangle of connectors, and here in the US they're easily found at Radio Shack or even Best Buy and Circuit City, so I'd expect Niels to find one without difficulty in the Netherlands. Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line- out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head- phones on the other I cannot guess, but it would certainly solve the problem of having the remote's weight in the middle of the cord from the headphones to the unit. I must be missing something here; the Y-adaptor is such an obvious solution, yet nobody else has suggested it yet. Is there some reason it wouldn't help? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player, because it has a headphone jack connected to it. My question was, if it was possible to take the headphone jack from the remote connector (which goes into the md unit). so I will be able to put the miniplug of my airhead amplifier into the md unit. In this case, a Y adaptor would be useless. Niels First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had a separate line-out. Second, there are Y-adaptors for 3.5mm stereo connections. I have several among my tangle of connectors, and here in the US they're easily found at Radio Shack or even Best Buy and Circuit City, so I'd expect Niels to find one without difficulty in the Netherlands. Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line- out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head- phones on the other I cannot guess, but it would certainly solve the problem of having the remote's weight in the middle of the cord from the headphones to the unit. I must be missing something here; the Y-adaptor is such an obvious solution, yet nobody else has suggested it yet. Is there some reason it wouldn't help? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
Niels explained, | The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I | will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player, | because it has a headphone jack connected to it. I don't follow. If the line/headphone output jack on the unit and the headphone port on the remote are both 3.5mm stereo minijacks, why would a Y-connector not work? How does the headphone jack on the remote prevent use of a Y-adaptor? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to connect my remote to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my remote, only on the unit itself. My remote connector is combined with a headphone jack, which goes to the remote as well. I want to remove the headphone jack from the remote connector, so I can plug a seperate minijack into my unit. So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port. Niels explained, | The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I | will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player, | because it has a headphone jack connected to it. I don't follow. If the line/headphone output jack on the unit and the headphone port on the remote are both 3.5mm stereo minijacks, why would a Y-connector not work? How does the headphone jack on the remote prevent use of a Y-adaptor? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
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Ah - I get it ... but why not just plug your headphone jack into the jack socket in the remote instead of the jack socket on the unit? Anyway - if you wanted to do this, you would need some kind of extension adapter for the signal plugs on the remote. You could make your own but as far as I'm aware nobody produces these commercially. You may find, however, that whenever the remote is plugged in, the output of the unit switches from line-out to headphone-out. This would be very unfortunate. So, even if you did "saw off" the miniplug from the remote, the unit would still detect the remote's presence from the other pins. That's what I think might happen... D I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to connect my remote to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my remote, only on the unit itself. My remote connector is combined with a headphone jack, which goes to the remote as well. I want to remove the headphone jack from the remote connector, so I can plug a seperate minijack into my unit. So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's strange that people are having such a hard time understanding his question. All I can think of Niels is that you make an extension like Dave said. Otherwise, I don't think it's possible. Dan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Strange indeed! Basically, the remote connector has two parts, the 3.5mm plug and the remote contacts. The only place the remote contacts can go is into the E900 directly and the plug takes up the 3.5mm socket on the E900. He does *not* want to plug the airhead into the end of the remote (kinda impractical arrangement) so he wants to seperate the remote contacts and the 3.5mm plug on the remote control. A Y-Adapter is therefore useless. An extension is useless. The question is: Can the remote work without the 3.5mm plug part, and (as I suggested in a earlier post) would it be strong enough to survive mobile use without the 3.5mm plug. PrinceGaz. From: "Dan Scellen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's strange that people are having such a hard time understanding his question. All I can think of Niels is that you make an extension like Dave said. Otherwise, I don't think it's possible. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Niels repeated, | I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to | connect my remote to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my | remote, only on the unit itself. That's why I suggested inserting a Y-adaptor's plug into the unit's jack. Then you'll have the two jacks of the Y-adaptor available: one for the remote and one for the headphone. The headphone jack on the remote can be empty. | So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port. I still don't see why not; you've tried explaining twice, so let's forget it. Dave Hooper wrote, Ah - I get it ... but why not just plug your headphone jack into the jack socket in the remote instead of the jack socket on the unit? Niels has answered that previously (or actually someone else figured it out and he confirmed that that was what he meant): he doesn't want the weight of the remote in-line on the cording from the headphones to the unit. I tried to suggest that if he doesn't want them in series he can have them in paral- lel, but that doesn't please him either. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I'm failing to see how he could use both if he's not willing to use an extension to go from the airhead to the 3.5mm hole on the remote. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:27:31 -, PrinceGaz wrote: Strange indeed! Basically, the remote connector has two parts, the 3.5mm plug and the remote contacts. The only place the remote contacts can go is into the E900 directly and the plug takes up the 3.5mm socket on the E900. He does *not* want to plug the airhead into the end of the remote (kinda impractical arrangement) so he wants to seperate the remote contacts and the 3.5mm plug on the remote control. A Y-Adapter is therefore useless. An extension is useless. The question is: Can the remote work without the 3.5mm plug part, and (as I suggested in a earlier post) would it be strong enough to survive mobile use without the 3.5mm plug. PrinceGaz. From: "Dan Scellen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's strange that people are having such a hard time understanding his question. All I can think of Niels is that you make an extension like Dave said. Otherwise, I don't think it's possible. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
If it is like all the other Sony units I've had, you plug in the remote, and the head phones unplug from the remote and you plug the new head phones in where the Sony haed phones went. One caveat though, the older Sonys used a proprietary headphone jack so Ihad to get an adaptor from MiniDisc Now. Niels Schenk wrote: Hi, I've recently purchased a sony e-900 md player. And I'm plannng to purchase a headroom airhead, and etymotic er4s. But, my e-900 has got only 1 headphone out. When I want to use my airhead, I will have to plug it in to the md player. Normally this means that I will not be able to use my remote because the 'remote plug' and the headphone jack are put in 1 plug. My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly into the md player. Kind regards, Niels Schenk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
That won't work. Aside from the 3.5mm plug (stem), the remote has a number of other connectors on either side of the 3.5mm stem. They all go into the side of the unit and make contact at the same time (I'm assuming that this is the case...it seems to be so on every MD unit I've seen). If, as I suspect, the 3.5mm stem on the remote is in the center of the connection to the MD unit, I can not see any way at all that he could connect the remote and the airhead unit to the headphone jack in the unit. It is also my understanding that the connection for the airhead with the 3.5mm connector that comes with it is large, and prevents proper use of the remote. This is why I continue to suggest plugging the remote into the unit, getting a short extension, plugging the male 3.5mm stem of the extension into the 3.5mm hole on the remote, and plugging the 3.5mm stem of the airhead into the 3.5mm hole in the extension cable. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:27:03 -0600 (CST), David W. Tamkin wrote: Niels repeated, | I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to | connect my remote to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my | remote, only on the unit itself. That's why I suggested inserting a Y-adaptor's plug into the unit's jack. Then you'll have the two jacks of the Y-adaptor available: one for the remote and one for the headphone. The headphone jack on the remote can be empty. | So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port. I still don't see why not; you've tried explaining twice, so let's forget it. Dave Hooper wrote, Ah - I get it ... but why not just plug your headphone jack into the jack socket in the remote instead of the jack socket on the unit? Niels has answered that previously (or actually someone else figured it out and he confirmed that that was what he meant): he doesn't want the weight of the remote in-line on the cording from the headphones to the unit. I tried to suggest that if he doesn't want them in series he can have them in paral- lel, but that doesn't please him either. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === dah? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to connect my remote to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my remote, only on the unit itself. My remote connector is combined with a headphone jack, which goes to the remote as well. I want to remove the headphone jack from the remote connector, so I can plug a seperate minijack into my unit. So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port. Niels explained, | The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I | will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player, | because it has a headphone jack connected to it. I don't follow. If the line/headphone output jack on the unit and the headphone port on the remote are both 3.5mm stereo minijacks, why would a Y-connector not work? How does the headphone jack on the remote prevent use of a Y-adaptor? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
Jim Coon wrote, If it is like all the other Sony units I've had, you plug in the remote, and the head phones unplug from the remote and you plug the new head phones in where the Sony haed phones went. One caveat though, the older Sonys used a proprietary headphone jack so Ihad to get an adaptor from MiniDisc Now. I am pretty sure that Sony gave up on the microplugs and microjacks between the R37 and the R50. There's no way they could have reverted to it on the E900. I bought the same adaptor directly from Sony. Mike Burger explained -- and thank you very much: | That won't work. Aside from the 3.5mm plug (stem), the remote has a | number of other connectors on either side of the 3.5mm stem. They | all go into the side of the unit and make contact at the same time Oh, yes; inserting a Y-adaptor or an extension between the remote's cord and the unit will prevent connecting those other leads, rendering the remote useless. I wish Niels had said that when I first asked. So the choice is to use the remote in-line with headphones or to do without the remote. What kind of "chopping off" Niels had in mind, though, I still don't see, unless he meant cutting out the cable that connects the remote to the unit and attaching its plug hard to the remote, so that the remote and the unit would move as one solid piece. But then what good is it to have a remote if it stays attached to the unit? That defeats the very purpose got it named a "remote control." Unless the remote has functions that aren't on the body, he might as well leave the remote off and plug the headphones into the unit directly. | It is also my understanding that the connection for the | airhead with the 3.5mm connector that comes with it is large, and | prevents proper use of the remote. | This is why I continue to suggest plugging the remote into the unit, | getting a short extension, plugging the male 3.5mm stem of the | extension into the 3.5mm hole on the remote, and plugging the 3.5mm | stem of the airhead into the 3.5mm hole in the extension cable. Niels doesn't want the remote to dangle in series with the headphones. (That's the only part I seem to have understood right off.) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
Can the remote work without the 3.5mm plug part, and (as I suggested in a earlier post) would it be strong enough to survive mobile use without the 3.5mm plug. PrinceGaz. It can. But the unit will stay in Headphone mode, and this won't sound nearly as good with an AirHead. Francisco. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
"David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback- only MD unit has ever had a separate line-out. David (and Dave Hooper): Both of you commented on a "headphone/line" jack. Unfortunately, the new Sony playback-only units don't have an auto-switch headphone/line jack. They are headphone-ONLY. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
I've never tried making diagrams with text before, but I'll try to show you what Niels is thinking: () () [][] |_|:::}--- this is what the remote plug looks like on my Aiwa. It's not the same as my sharp, but I can only assume that his E900 plug is similar to this one. the [][] part is the remote connection, and the other is the 3.5 mm connector. His problem is this: __ | MD |---[Remote][AirHead Amp (big, heavy)][Headphones] | unit | - This is the easiest set up, but it isn't very practical for use. Can you imagine clipping the remote to your shirt and having the headphone amp dangle on the line? It just won't work. He probably wants to have his airhead and md unit in his pocket, while the remote is usable. His solution was this: Cut the plastic in the remote plug (1st diagram), to separate the remote portion, and the 3.5mm connector. Then, throw away the 3.5mm jack (basically). Now, his setup would look like this: __ | MD |--[Remote] | unit |[AirHead Amp (big, heavy)][Headphones] - So, as PrinceGaz said, the question is whether or not the remote needs the 3.5mm (probably not), and whether or not the remote connectors are strong enough (probably). Go for it Niels. Dan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
The solution is obvious, but he doesn't want to use it. I guess they don't call it an airhead for nothing. :) "David W. Tamkin" wrote: First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had a separate line-out. Second, there are Y-adaptors for 3.5mm stereo connections. I have several among my tangle of connectors, and here in the US they're easily found at Radio Shack or even Best Buy and Circuit City, so I'd expect Niels to find one without difficulty in the Netherlands. Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line- out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head- phones on the other I cannot guess, but it would certainly solve the problem of having the remote's weight in the middle of the cord from the headphones to the unit. I must be missing something here; the Y-adaptor is such an obvious solution, yet nobody else has suggested it yet. Is there some reason it wouldn't help? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
Hi David, "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had a separate line-out. Of course the MZ-2P, that wonderful exception to every rule, had it. Headphone, line, *and* optical, all in one little breadbox. :-) Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack
J. coon wrote: The solution is obvious, but he doesn't want to use it. I guess they don't call it an airhead for nothing. :) Except that won't work... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
