[MBZ] cheap wagon, needs b2 piston

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[LT Don]

I am getting a bit old and senile. I will pop on over for supper with Truman 
and check in when I get back. 

On 8/21/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> >
> > Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while.
> >
> 
> I'm thinking that Looie Don came along after I did (been here since March
> or April of '02) and Benzbarn may have been here longer than I.
> 
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1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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Re: [MBZ] Vertical/Inclined Injection

[Joe Knight]

Nope, Marshall, mine just shows 30Nm, no range.  40 Nm sounds like a
pretty good compromise to me as well.  Thx again.

joe

On 8/21/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Knight wrote:
> > Thx, Marshall.  My TDM is a Dec, '89 issue for 124,126 201 &129.
> > Which value would you suggest we go with or do you think the
> > difference is enough to matter?  Sujit sounds like he's hot to trot to
> > get the injectors back into his new head with inclined injection.
> 
> Well since all of the listings I've seen show a 10Nm range for injector
> torque and mine show 40-50Nm and yours shows 30Nm (or is it 30-40) I'd
> probably settle on 40Nm.
> 
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while.
> 

I'm thinking that Looie Don came along after I did (been here since March
or April of '02) and Benzbarn may have been here longer than I.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while.

LT Don wrote:


BenzBarn,

You are a pretty new face around here, I think. And you are obviously 
very experienced in working on the Benz. ... But what you do NOT yet 
know is that one does not try to kick Obi in the nuts and walk away 
unscathed.


Don


On 8/21/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:


Gee.  Thanks for pointing that out.

I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools
in my
tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic
lifters.  No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's
not used
on Diesels.
Someone asked what the tool was for because they didn't know, so I
told them
where it's used and on what models it's used for. OK?

Marshall knows about this tool. He also knows that I would also know
this.
It's his attempt at being funny.

I'm laughing over here SEE?

hehehehehehehe


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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No, that one was on my 81 wagon.  It lasted about 20K when I pulled the 
entire engine/tranny to drop another engine/tranny in it.  No telling 
how long it would have gone.


Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

But it sure didnt end that way.  Did the oil change yesterday, put in 
delvac 1300(yea yea, not mobile one so my lifters will probably start 
tapping again).  Today was the tranny filter change.  I have been having 
a pretty decent leak from the b2 piston cover for a while so after I 
changed the fluid and put the pan back on, I pushed in the cover and 
reseated it thinking maybe that would seal it back up.   Didnt have 
another o-ring so just wanted to do that real quick and see.  Boy did 
that turn out to be a disaster.  Filled tranny back up, went for a test 
drive.  It was on the way back as i was pulling into the driveway I 
noticed a stream of something that have followed me out of the drive. 
Fluid was just blowing right out of the thing now.  Crap.  Ok, so I 
popped the clip off the b2 piston, popped the cover off, pulled the 
piston out, then pulled out the o-ring, it was split in half.  Crap, 
dont have another one.  Well I just pulled the b2 piston ect out of 
another tranny I had in the garage and used its seal on the SDL.  That 
sucker is a bitch to get back in the little groove it fits in.  Got it 
all put back together, fulled tranny back up, no more leaks.  Shifts 
great now too.  In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of 
the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid.  By the 
time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I 
didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair.  I tried 
hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo.  I think its all out 
now.  What a day.



Is that the B-2 piston you replaced without replacing the plastic 
bushing/guide? I quote the late Randy Durrance:




After replacing the B-2 piston on my wife's 300TDT twice, I can answer the
question about the "required" bushing. I didn't replace it the first time.
Being a Mercedes Tech for 20 years or so, I had replaced the bushings on
customer cars...but this was mine and I was in a hurry.
If you have a B-2 piston that has failed (i.e., blown to tiny bits) there
will usually be some galling (wear marks) on the nose of the piston. I failed
to notice these marks on the first one. Since the piston has no return spring,
it relies on pressure to push it back and forth. As the transmission housing
wears, the piston can (and does) rock slightly in the bore. If the piston gets
stuck when the B-2 band tries to release, pressure builds behind the piston
until it moves. When the sticking piston is forced outward, it smacks into the
B-2 piston cover and shatters. To get to the point...the substitution of the
plastic guide bushing as well as the modified B-2 piston outer seal are meant
to keep the piston from sticking in the applied position.
  Randy D.




Marshall


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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[John Ervine]

BenzBarn wrote:


I'm laughing over here SEE?


My offer still stands - how much for postage?

--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi
1980 300TD 168+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yes, true.  Like I said though, I only drive mine for hauling things.

Kaleb

Rory wrote:

20mpg is not bad for #7500 dually that is putting out 300 horses to the 
rear wheels, but it cast close to $100 now to fill it up. So I think I 
would be better off with a 35-40mpg 190D plus if I do go biodiesel it's 
a lot less processing and collecting.

But I do miss driving my big truck, it just sits in the backyard.

Rory

On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Your dodge only gets 20mpg?  That sounds pretty damn good for me.  My 1
ton only gets about 12-14 but I only use it for hauling things.

Rory wrote:

 > So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on
Ebay
 > and Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG
car to
 > replace my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg
 > and fuel is over $3 right now.
 > My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.
 >
 > Good luck and let the games begin.
 >
 > Rory
 >
 > On 8/21/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> wrote:
 >
 > Let's work through this -
 > You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You
don't have
 > aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two
 > running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade
them in
 > every other year.
 >
 > I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two
 > running cars at any giving time are greatly increased!
 >
 > Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king,
 > follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even
123. The
 > long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways
the only
 > one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to
carry all
 > that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs,
but I don't
 > think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be
way off on
 > that -
 > I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but
that's my
 > personal feeling.
 >
 > My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or
SDL for
 > room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car.
 >
 > I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the
 > 300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the
450SLC,
 > at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun
to drive.
 > Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87
300D -
 > best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to
be an
 > excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC!
 >
 > Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it --
 >
 >
 > On 8/21/05, LT Don < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >>
 > wrote:
 >  > I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
 >  > committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I
 > mention
 >  > maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
 >  > something "new" in the garage.
 >  >
 >  > My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of
the fuel
 >  > economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior
space and
 >  > the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a
diesel S-Class
 >  > (a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more
appropriate
 > (and
 >  > more expensive) as the primary family car.
 >  >
 >  > This isn't something we're going to be shopping for
immediately.
 > I am
 >  > looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest.
I am
 > hoping
 >  > to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might
rule out the
 >  > S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with
a loan.
 >  >
 >  > Thoughts about which would be better?  I understand this
is a very
 >  > controversial question and there is really no correct
answer. Once
 >  > again, please bear in mind that this will become our
primary family
 >  > vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.
 >  >
 >
 >
 > --
 > OK Don, KD5NRO
 > Norman, OK
 > '87 300SDL
 > '81 240D
 > '78 450SLC
 >
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Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[LT Don]

BenzBarn,

You are a pretty new face around here, I think. And you are obviously very 
experienced in working on the Benz. ... But what you do NOT yet know is that 
one does not try to kick Obi in the nuts and walk away unscathed. 

Don


On 8/21/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Gee. Thanks for pointing that out.
> 
> I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools in my
> tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic
> lifters. No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's not used
> on Diesels.
> Someone asked what the tool was for because they didn't know, so I told 
> them
> where it's used and on what models it's used for. OK?
> 
> Marshall knows about this tool. He also knows that I would also know this.
> It's his attempt at being funny.
> 
> I'm laughing over here SEE?
> 
> hehehehehehehe
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[BenzBarn]

Gee.  Thanks for pointing that out.

I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools in my
tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic
lifters.  No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's not used
on Diesels.
Someone asked what the tool was for because they didn't know, so I told them
where it's used and on what models it's used for. OK?

Marshall knows about this tool. He also knows that I would also know this.
It's his attempt at being funny.

I'm laughing over here SEE?

hehehehehehehe

Re: [MBZ] Vertical/Inclined Injection

[Marshall Booth]

Joe Knight wrote:
Thx, Marshall.  My TDM is a Dec, '89 issue for 124,126 201 &129. 
Which value would you suggest we go with or do you think the

difference is enough to matter?  Sujit sounds like he's hot to trot to
get the injectors back into his new head with inclined injection.


Well since all of the listings I've seen show a 10Nm range for injector 
torque and mine show 40-50Nm and yours shows 30Nm (or is it 30-40) I'd 
probably settle on 40Nm.


Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Vertical/Inclined Injection

[Joe Knight]

Thx, Marshall.  My TDM is a Dec, '89 issue for 124,126 201 &129. 
Which value would you suggest we go with or do you think the
difference is enough to matter?  Sujit sounds like he's hot to trot to
get the injectors back into his new head with inclined injection.

joe

On 8/21/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Knight wrote:
> > When was inclined injection introduced & into what models?  Just found
> > a reference in the TDM that seems to indicate that for inclined
> > injection proper torque for injectors into the prechambers is only
> > 30Nm as opposed to 70-80 for vertical.  Trying to confirm that but
> > haven't yet found a reference to inclined injection in either the 124
> > or 126 manual.  Not to worry; this isn't to do with either of my
> > rides.  I'm not that confused -yet.
> >
> > joe
> 
> To my knowledge, the first inclined injectors (at least the first I saw
> in the US) appeared on 190D 2.5s in 1986 (but not ALL 190D 2.5s
> according to the workshop manuals). It was highly desirable for engines
> with after start glow function. Both of my '87 602 engines (turbo and
> non turbo - the former without "after glow", the latter with
> "afterglow") have inclined injectors (as has every 602 engine I've ever
> seen - including the 602.96 engines used in later 124s) but the 602/603
> engine manual shows that 602.91 normally aspirated engines was made both
> with inclined AND vertical injection. All of my 601 engines (4 of them
> and every other 601 I've ever seen - all without afterglow function)
> have had vertical injectors. The engine manual shows that OM603.96
> engines had both, but I've NEVER seen one that was officially imported
> to the US that didn't have vertical injectors (some used in later model
> years - '88 and after may have come standard with inclined injection).
> The OM603.97 engines all had inclined injection.
> 
> You can convert from vertical to inclined injection, but it's expensive
> - you need new prechambers, holding rings, injectors and glow plugs.
> Purists have suggested you MAY even need new hard injection pump to
> injector lines, but I think the old lines will work if you're careful.
> 
> As to injector into prechamber or threaded ring torque, vertical
> injectors require 70-80 Nm while for inclined injectors it's 40-50 Nm
> (from the Dec '88 TDM). There have been problems with the threaded rings
> used with vertical injectors cracking and it's been suggested that
> excessive tightening torques (same as used for vertical injectors) were
> the cause!
> 
> Marshall
> --
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>   "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
> 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
>   Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
> http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[John Ervine]

BenzBarn wrote:

Well, for christs sake I KNOW what the tool is used for and where it's used,
so in fact I'm not incorrect.  Know one asked you to be the unofficial
saviour of benz kind.


You have a lot of nerve to call be uncivilized. For a PhD, you have much to
learn


Yet you were talking about a tool for checking hydraulic lifters in gassers in a 
thread about crimping the timing chain on diesels.  Your post was misleading to 
the subject at hand, Marshall simply called attention to it.


--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi
1980 300TD 168+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi

Re: [MBZ] Vertical/Inclined Injection

[Marshall Booth]

Joe Knight wrote:

When was inclined injection introduced & into what models?  Just found
a reference in the TDM that seems to indicate that for inclined
injection proper torque for injectors into the prechambers is only
30Nm as opposed to 70-80 for vertical.  Trying to confirm that but
haven't yet found a reference to inclined injection in either the 124
or 126 manual.  Not to worry; this isn't to do with either of my
rides.  I'm not that confused -yet.

joe


To my knowledge, the first inclined injectors (at least the first I saw 
in the US) appeared on 190D 2.5s in 1986 (but not ALL 190D 2.5s 
according to the workshop manuals). It was highly desirable for engines 
with after start glow function. Both of my '87 602 engines (turbo and 
non turbo - the former without "after glow", the latter with 
"afterglow") have inclined injectors (as has every 602 engine I've ever 
seen - including the 602.96 engines used in later 124s) but the 602/603 
engine manual shows that 602.91 normally aspirated engines was made both 
with inclined AND vertical injection. All of my 601 engines (4 of them 
and every other 601 I've ever seen - all without afterglow function) 
have had vertical injectors. The engine manual shows that OM603.96 
engines had both, but I've NEVER seen one that was officially imported 
to the US that didn't have vertical injectors (some used in later model 
years - '88 and after may have come standard with inclined injection). 
The OM603.97 engines all had inclined injection.


You can convert from vertical to inclined injection, but it's expensive 
- you need new prechambers, holding rings, injectors and glow plugs. 
Purists have suggested you MAY even need new hard injection pump to 
injector lines, but I think the old lines will work if you're careful.


As to injector into prechamber or threaded ring torque, vertical 
injectors require 70-80 Nm while for inclined injectors it's 40-50 Nm
(from the Dec '88 TDM). There have been problems with the threaded rings 
used with vertical injectors cracking and it's been suggested that 
excessive tightening torques (same as used for vertical injectors) were 
the cause!


Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Bill Clinton

[LT Don]

Yes, I do miss Bill Clinton but for none of the reasons you specified.

[MBZ] Bill Clinton

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

   Missing Bill Clinton


>> It doesn't matter what party you belong to - this is absolutely 
hilarious.

>>
>> Just watched a show on Canadian TV. There was a black comedian who 
said he  misses Bill Clinton.

>>
>> "Yep, that's right - I miss Bill Clinton! He was the closest thing 
we ever  got to having a black man as President.
>> Number 1- He played the sax. Number 2- He smoked weed. Number 3-He 
had his  way with ugly white women.

>>
>> Even now? Look at him... his wife works, and he don't!
>>
>> And, he gets a check from the government every month.
>>
>> Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America's
>> shelves this week with "Clinton Soup," in honor of one of the 
nations' most distinguished men. It consists primarily of a weenie in 
hot water.

>>
>> Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill
>> Clinton. The Dodge Drafter will be built in Canada.
>>
>> When asked what he thought about foreign affairs, Clinton replied, I 
don't know, I never had one."

>>
>> American Indians nicknamed Bill Clinton "Walking Eagle" because he 
is so  full of crap he can't fly.

>>
>> Clinton lacked only three things to become one of America's finest 
leaders:  integrity, vision, wisdom.

>>
>> Clinton was doing the work of three men: Larry, Curly and Moe.
>>
>> The Clinton revised judicial oath: "I solemnly swear to tell the truthas
>> I  know it, the whole truth as I believe it to be, and nothing but what
>> I  think  you need to know."
>>
>> Clinton will be recorded in history as the only President to do 
Hanky Panky  between Bushes."

>
>

Re: [MBZ] Gislaved Nordfrost

[LT Don]

Royce:

Please subscribe to BANNED so I can give an appropriate reply.

Don


On 8/21/05, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> What's a snow tire? 
> 
> Royce Engler (believe it or not it did snow in Houston this year...)
> 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

[MBZ] no one is chasing this one?

[LT Don]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W25A557AB

Nice looking 1983 300SD, current bid $1800 with 22 hours to go. Atlanta 
area. 

Now, if someone sees something wrong with this car please educate me now 
while I am in the "looking" mode. 

-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] Gislaved Nordfrost

[Royce Engler]

What's a snow tire?   

Royce Engler (believe it or not it did snow in Houston this year...)
1985 300TD Turbo 265K 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ned kleinhenz
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:38 PM
To: Mercedes Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Gislaved Nordfrost


Any experience among the list members with Gislaved Nordfrost studless
snow tires?  How do they compare with Nokians?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
and old 123's

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Re: [MBZ] Gislaved Nordfrost

[LT Don]

Gisland, Nordfrost, Blizzaks. I feel like I am reading the food court menu 
at Ikea. 

On 8/21/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> ned kleinhenz wrote:
> > Any experience among the list members with Gislaved Nordfrost studless
> > snow tires? How do they compare with Nokians?
> >
> 
> Older Gislaveds were GOOD snow tires, but inferior to the Nokians from
> all reports.
> 
> For driving in the Northeast (western PA mostly) the finest studless
> tires are Blizzaks in MY opinion. They work quite well in both ice and
> snow (but I prefer studded tires with an aggressive tread in DEEP snow -
> deeper than 8-10 inches or so). I've had 3 sets of Blizzaks and they are
> GREAT for 15-20kmi, then they become VERY ordinary.
> 
> Marshall
> --
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> "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
> 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
> Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
> http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
> 
> 
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-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

[MBZ] Grease Cars

[LT Don]

CNN just did a quick segment on Grease Cars. Great video shot of them 
driving down the road with the Benz Star taking up the bottom half of the tv 
screen. Didn't get a good look at what model car he was using but it sure 
wasn't my 240D. Probably an S Class diesel of some sort (126). 



-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft seal change on a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

[David Brodbeck]

Robert Massmann wrote:
> During this process I think I found why my engine was running hot. It seems 
> that stuff was getting through the A/C cooling fines and getting trapped in 
> front of the radiator cooling fins. About 1/3 of the radiator cooling 
> surface was covered with grass, dust and debrea

When I took the pusher fan off my '83 300D, I noticed that there were a
lot of dead bugs and cottonwood seeds trapped between it and the
condensor, too.  Mostly behind the motor, which I guess is a dead spot
for air movement anyway.

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[David Brodbeck]

Brian Chase wrote:
> Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to 
> the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery 
> right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while 
> cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new.

9 volts under cranking is kind of the bare minimum.  Either your starter
is drawing an awful lot of current, or the battery is weak.  Have you
tried jump-starting it, yet?

[MBZ] how to put books on the shelf

[LT Don]

I do mine by topic and political persuasion. For example, top shelf is 
cookbooks. Traditional cookbooks such as The Joy Of Cooking are on the right 
side. The more liberal cookbooks such as Laurel's Kitchen and The New 
Vegetarian are of course on the left. I have a copy of Eat The Rich on the 
shelves somewhere but apparently it was mis-filed and can't be located right 
now. 

Same with the third shelf from the top, philosophy and religion. All of my 
Bob Jones University approved books are on the right. [I am thinking of 
adding one wall-mounted shelf further right of the bookcase so these can be 
far right and not have to associate with any other books.] Walden Pond, Karl 
Marx Selected Writing (it was a college class at George Mason University) 
and The Life of Mahatma Gandhi positioned toward the left. 

On 8/21/05, Jan Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did mine by color ..?? Does that count? 
> 
> Jan
> 



-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer

[David Brodbeck]

redghost wrote:
> If this is old tech camera and only has the red/yellow/white output,  
> you may need to get a breakout box digitizer to hook to that will dump 
> it into your USB or Firewire port.  For some more $$, but probably way 
> cheap on evilBay you can snag a card (matrox or some such) that will 
> fit in the peecee and let you suck data in.

I've seen video capture cards as cheap as $30, on surplus sites.  More
expensive ones come with better software.  I tend to skip the card's
software and use Virtual Dub, though.

Re: [MBZ] Gislaved Nordfrost

[Marshall Booth]

ned kleinhenz wrote:

Any experience among the list members with Gislaved Nordfrost studless
snow tires?  How do they compare with Nokians?



Older Gislaveds were GOOD snow tires, but inferior to the Nokians from 
all reports.


For driving in the Northeast (western PA mostly) the finest studless 
tires are Blizzaks in MY opinion. They work quite well in both ice and 
snow (but I prefer studded tires with an aggressive tread in DEEP snow - 
deeper than 8-10 inches or so). I've had 3 sets of Blizzaks and they are 
GREAT for 15-20kmi, then they become VERY ordinary.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

[MBZ] Vertical/Inclined Injection

[Joe Knight]

When was inclined injection introduced & into what models?  Just found
a reference in the TDM that seems to indicate that for inclined
injection proper torque for injectors into the prechambers is only
30Nm as opposed to 70-80 for vertical.  Trying to confirm that but
haven't yet found a reference to inclined injection in either the 124
or 126 manual.  Not to worry; this isn't to do with either of my
rides.  I'm not that confused -yet.

joe

[MBZ] Gislaved Nordfrost

[ned kleinhenz]

Any experience among the list members with Gislaved Nordfrost studless
snow tires?  How do they compare with Nokians?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
and old 123's

Re: [MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL

[Marshall Booth]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
But it sure didnt end that way.  Did the oil change yesterday, put in 
delvac 1300(yea yea, not mobile one so my lifters will probably start 
tapping again).  Today was the tranny filter change.  I have been having 
a pretty decent leak from the b2 piston cover for a while so after I 
changed the fluid and put the pan back on, I pushed in the cover and 
reseated it thinking maybe that would seal it back up.   Didnt have 
another o-ring so just wanted to do that real quick and see.  Boy did 
that turn out to be a disaster.  Filled tranny back up, went for a test 
drive.  It was on the way back as i was pulling into the driveway I 
noticed a stream of something that have followed me out of the drive. 
Fluid was just blowing right out of the thing now.  Crap.  Ok, so I 
popped the clip off the b2 piston, popped the cover off, pulled the 
piston out, then pulled out the o-ring, it was split in half.  Crap, 
dont have another one.  Well I just pulled the b2 piston ect out of 
another tranny I had in the garage and used its seal on the SDL.  That 
sucker is a bitch to get back in the little groove it fits in.  Got it 
all put back together, fulled tranny back up, no more leaks.  Shifts 
great now too.  In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of 
the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid.  By the 
time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I 
didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair.  I tried 
hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo.  I think its all out 
now.  What a day.


Is that the B-2 piston you replaced without replacing the plastic 
bushing/guide? I quote the late Randy Durrance:



 After replacing the B-2 piston on my wife's 300TDT twice, I can answer the
question about the "required" bushing. I didn't replace it the first time.
Being a Mercedes Tech for 20 years or so, I had replaced the bushings on
customer cars...but this was mine and I was in a hurry.
 If you have a B-2 piston that has failed (i.e., blown to tiny bits) there
will usually be some galling (wear marks) on the nose of the piston. I failed
to notice these marks on the first one. Since the piston has no return spring,
it relies on pressure to push it back and forth. As the transmission housing
wears, the piston can (and does) rock slightly in the bore. If the piston gets
stuck when the B-2 band tries to release, pressure builds behind the piston
until it moves. When the sticking piston is forced outward, it smacks into the
B-2 piston cover and shatters. To get to the point...the substitution of the
plastic guide bushing as well as the modified B-2 piston outer seal are meant
to keep the piston from sticking in the applied position.
   Randy D.



Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Royce Engler]

Marshall said...
  Sort of like shelving books in a library randomly or by size!

My ex once arranged the books on MY bookshelf so that the colors were
coordinated.  Took me weeks to figure out where everything was...I know, I
know...I AM a book junkie...

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Rory]

20mpg is not bad for #7500 dually that is putting out 300 horses to the rear 
wheels, but it cast close to $100 now to fill it up. So I think I would be 
better off with a 35-40mpg 190D plus if I do go biodiesel it's a lot less 
processing and collecting. 
But I do miss driving my big truck, it just sits in the backyard.

Rory

On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Your dodge only gets 20mpg? That sounds pretty damn good for me. My 1
> ton only gets about 12-14 but I only use it for hauling things.
> 
> Rory wrote:
> 
> > So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay
> > and Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to
> > replace my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg
> > and fuel is over $3 right now.
> > My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.
> >
> > Good luck and let the games begin.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > On 8/21/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Let's work through this -
> > You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You don't have
> > aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two
> > running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade them in
> > every other year.
> >
> > I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two
> > running cars at any giving time are greatly increased!
> >
> > Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king,
> > follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even 123. The
> > long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways the only
> > one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to carry all
> > that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs, but I don't
> > think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be way off on
> > that -
> > I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but that's my
> > personal feeling.
> >
> > My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or SDL for
> > room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car.
> >
> > I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the
> > 300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the 450SLC,
> > at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun to drive.
> > Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87 300D -
> > best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to be an
> > excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC!
> >
> > Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it --
> >
> >
> > On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> > > I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
> > > committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I
> > mention
> > > maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
> > > something "new" in the garage.
> > >
> > > My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
> > > economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
> > > the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
> > > (a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate
> > (and
> > > more expensive) as the primary family car.
> > >
> > > This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately.
> > I am
> > > looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am
> > hoping
> > > to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
> > > S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.
> > >
> > > Thoughts about which would be better? I understand this is a very
> > > controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
> > > again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
> > > vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
> > '87 300SDL
> > '81 240D
> > '78 450SLC
> >
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> > 
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> >
> > 
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> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81

[MBZ] last post was meant for banned

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

please ignore.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Fuck, thats it, that luther is a fucking genius.

LT Don wrote:


You could always go for The Luther Look and avoid future problems with
getting your hair clean.

On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of
the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid.  By the
time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I
didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair.  I tried
hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo.








--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Your dodge only gets 20mpg?  That sounds pretty damn good for me.  My 1 
ton only gets about 12-14 but I only use it for hauling things.


Rory wrote:

So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay 
and Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to 
replace my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg 
and fuel is over $3 right now.

My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.

Good luck and let the games begin.

Rory

On 8/21/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Let's work through this -
You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You don't have
aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two
running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade them in
every other year.

I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two
running cars at any giving time are greatly increased!

Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king,
follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even 123. The
long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways the only
one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to carry all
that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs, but I don't
think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be way off on
that -
I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but that's my
personal feeling.

My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or SDL for
room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car.

I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the
300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the 450SLC,
at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun to drive.
Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87 300D -
best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to be an
excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC!

Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it --


On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
 > I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
 > committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I
mention
 > maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
 > something "new" in the garage.
 >
 > My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
 > economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
 > the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
 > (a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate
(and
 > more expensive) as the primary family car.
 >
 > This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately.
I am
 > looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am
hoping
 > to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
 > S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.
 >
 > Thoughts about which would be better?  I understand this is a very
 > controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
 > again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
 > vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.
 >


--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

[MBZ] ADMIN, everyone read

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Since there was a big debacle on subject lines today, we do need to 
start keeping the subject relevant.  So folks, start with a relevant 
subject and keep the same subject when replying.  If go off that 
subject, change the subject line.  Easy enough.  That should keep 
eveyrone happy and keep the archives cleaner.


Thanks,

Kaleb
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

the SD will be quite a bit bigger than a 123.  Might not be quite a bit, 
but, bigger for sure.  I didnt really like the 124 myself.  I like the 
later model 124's, 91 and later.  Regina is wanting another car for 
herself and she want a 140.  She doesnt want a diesel although I might 
be able to talk her into a rod bender.  I would almost rather try and 
find a 95 E300 diesel although it seems the prices of these things are 
going up.


OK Don wrote:

Let's work through this - 
You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You don't have

aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two
running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade them in
every other year.

I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two
running cars at any giving time are greatly increased!

Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king,
follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even 123. The
long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways the only
one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to carry all
that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs, but I don't
think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be way off on
that -
I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but that's my
personal feeling.

My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or SDL for
room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car.

I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the
300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the 450SLC,
at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun to drive.
Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87 300D -
best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to be an
excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC!

Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it -- 



On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I mention
maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
something "new" in the garage.

My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
(a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate (and
more expensive) as the primary family car.

This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately. I am
looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am hoping
to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.

Thoughts about which would be better?  I understand this is a very
controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.







--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL

[OK Don]

Sounds like one of my weekends!  Makes Luther's "haircut" sound attractive!

  In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of
> the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid.  By the
> time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I
> didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair.  I tried
> hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo.  I think its all out
> now.  What a day.
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL

[LT Don]

You could always go for The Luther Look and avoid future problems with
getting your hair clean.

On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of
> the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid.  By the
> time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I
> didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair.  I tried
> hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo.
> 



-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SE beater w/ 5spd $600 Charleston SC

[Mitch Haley]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  VIN is 12602210049471.  I'm sure it is grey market (manual transmission, 
> cloth/manual seats).

I'm also sure it is not a US model, VIN is not a 17 character string beginning 
with "WDB".

[MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

But it sure didnt end that way.  Did the oil change yesterday, put in 
delvac 1300(yea yea, not mobile one so my lifters will probably start 
tapping again).  Today was the tranny filter change.  I have been having 
a pretty decent leak from the b2 piston cover for a while so after I 
changed the fluid and put the pan back on, I pushed in the cover and 
reseated it thinking maybe that would seal it back up.   Didnt have 
another o-ring so just wanted to do that real quick and see.  Boy did 
that turn out to be a disaster.  Filled tranny back up, went for a test 
drive.  It was on the way back as i was pulling into the driveway I 
noticed a stream of something that have followed me out of the drive. 
Fluid was just blowing right out of the thing now.  Crap.  Ok, so I 
popped the clip off the b2 piston, popped the cover off, pulled the 
piston out, then pulled out the o-ring, it was split in half.  Crap, 
dont have another one.  Well I just pulled the b2 piston ect out of 
another tranny I had in the garage and used its seal on the SDL.  That 
sucker is a bitch to get back in the little groove it fits in.  Got it 
all put back together, fulled tranny back up, no more leaks.  Shifts 
great now too.  In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of 
the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid.  By the 
time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I 
didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair.  I tried 
hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo.  I think its all out 
now.  What a day.

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

[MBZ] 1981 280SE beater w/ 5spd $600 Charleston SC

[meadedillon]

Dieselvolk,

I'm going to pass on this one.  It's in Craigslist for Charleston, with email 
and phone number.  VIN is 12602210049471.  No sign of an importer's plate in 
the driver's door well, but I'm sure it is grey market (manual transmission, 
cloth/manual seats).

Definitely a project car, best towed to ulitimate destination or fixed on site.

Might be worth the $$ for the manual tranny drivetrain (that seemed to be fine, 
other than some vibration).  Some rust, bad re-paint, much-abused mechanically, 
no spare tire.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
Digest Lurker since 2001
'85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] WIS on DVD on eBay!

[Joe Knight]

What version of the WIS do you have, Omar?  I was able to get G.07.07
to run ok on XP Pro but I don't think I'm alone in having difficulties
getting it to play nice w/ EPC v.11.4.3 - something to do with the
blasted Program Manager I expect..  Had to uninstall that version of
WIS to restore function to the EPC and only after reading your post
was I able this morning to gain full access to the earlier G.05.05
WIS.  Your comment about language selection was just the clue I
needed.

joe

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Marshall Booth]

LT Don wrote:

I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I mention
maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
something "new" in the garage.

My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
(a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate (and
more expensive) as the primary family car.

This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately. I am
looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am hoping
to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.

Thoughts about which would be better?  I understand this is a very
controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.



When driving around town, I MUCH prefer the 190Ds. Linda does as well 
(but didn't at first). On a trip (I spent 10+ years making once or twice 
a week 250 mile one way commutes from Pgh to Wash. DC) the 124 wagon was 
less tiring to drive, but sacrificing just a little comfort, I improved 
fuel economy by almost 50% so the 190D 5 spd quickly became the 
commuting car. Of course when Linda and I take a 2000-3000 mile trip, 
we've usually taken the 300TD. This year it will be the 190D 2.5t (this 
is Linda's car) for improved fuel economy with only a marginal reduction 
in comfort - we could have chosen my spartan 190D 2.0 and gotten another 
20-25% improvement in economy, but I really DO sometimes use cruise 
control when driving 10-12 hours at a time and I'd need to diagnose and 
fix the AC on that car. Not worth it to save an additional $30-$35 at 
most. I expect that if the AC was working I'd take the 190D 2.0 and 
chuckle all the way and back at getting 42-45 mpg. As it is I'll just 
have to live with 32-37 mpg.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Rory]

BTW I have setup RSS feeds for Craigslist saves a lot of typing and 
searching, it's setup to look for diesels. Not just MBZ, looking for a donor 
diesel for my 88 Montero.

On 8/21/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> My search will be more on the western states out to NM (Dad lives there) 
> I do have biodiesel processor under construction right now based on the 
> appleseed design by GirlMark. If I tried to keep up with the cosumption of 
> my truck I would spend all of my time just collecting and makin bio. 
> Been thinking about doing WVO on the truck using the FryBird system, buts 
> thats down the road.
> 
> Don you do have a leg up on me thou, I never had MBZ before so I will have 
> question later on.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rory
> 
> On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I don't think we will be in competition unless you are planning to
> > wait a lot longer than I think you are.
> > 
> > On 8/21/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay 
> > and 
> > > Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to 
> > replace
> > > my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg and fuel 
> > is
> > > over $3 right now.
> > > My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert. 
> > >
> > > Good luck and let the games begin.
> > >
> > > Rory
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 1977 240D
> > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> > 
> > If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
> > 
> > ___ 
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com 
> > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com 
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> > 
> 
>

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Rory]

My search will be more on the western states out to NM (Dad lives there) 
I do have biodiesel processor under construction right now based on the 
appleseed design by GirlMark. If I tried to keep up with the cosumption of 
my truck I would spend all of my time just collecting and makin bio. 
Been thinking about doing WVO on the truck using the FryBird system, buts 
thats down the road.

Don you do have a leg up on me thou, I never had MBZ before so I will have 
question later on.

Regards

Rory

On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I don't think we will be in competition unless you are planning to
> wait a lot longer than I think you are.
> 
> On 8/21/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay 
> and
> > Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to 
> replace
> > my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg and fuel 
> is
> > over $3 right now.
> > My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.
> >
> > Good luck and let the games begin.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> 
> 
> --
> 1977 240D
> 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> 
> If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
> 
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com 
> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com 
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
>

[MBZ] Hijacking threads, was Chain crimp tool

[Joe Knight]

Mea culpa on that score too, Marshall.  I realized that soon after I'd
hit the 'send' button.  Don't know that I'm particularly more guilty
than most but I'm sure I've sinned enough.

I've about given up hope for a useful list driven archive.  When I
encounter anything of potential value I just forward it to my personal
archive.  Then at least I can  winnow the chaff & can't fault anyone
else for my own lack of filing skills.  ;-/

joe  

On 8/21/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Knight wrote:
> > And I thought this thread had something to do with the chain crimping
> > tool.  Silly me!
> 
> I must agree, but I don't know of any way to efficaciously answer or
> comment on a particular post without retaining the original "subject." I
> notice that your post about not changing misleading "subject lines"
> retained the "Chain crimp tool" subject line as well.
> 
> If there were a CLEAR policy on that (say change the line followed by a
> "was - old subject") then I'd sure TRY to follow it (I'm SURE I'd
> sometimes slip) but there seems to be NO clear policy and changing the
> subject line when that's relevant is a rare and pleasant surprise - not
> something that's routinely done.
> 
> In addition to the frustration of trying to follow an active discussion
> thread in the absence of relevant subject headers, without a requirement
> for relevant subject lines, an archive becomes little more than a BIG
> trash can that people can root through, but with lots of resulting
> frustration. Sort of like shelving books in a library randomly or by size!

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Jan Guthrie]

I did mine by color ..??  Does that count?   

Jan

OK Don wrote:

> Yes! - That's how my home library is organized, and I can testify to
> the accuracy of Marshall's statement!
>
> > In addition to the frustration of trying to follow an active discussion
> > thread in the absence of relevant subject headers, without a requirement
> > for relevant subject lines, an archive becomes little more than a BIG
> > trash can that people can root through, but with lots of resulting
> > frustration. Sort of like shelving books in a library randomly or by size!
> >
> > Marshall

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[LT Don]

I don't think we will be in competition unless you are planning to
wait a lot longer than I think you are.

On 8/21/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay and
> Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to replace
> my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg and fuel is
> over $3 right now.
>  My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.
>  
>  Good luck and let the games begin.
>  
>  Rory
> 


-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[OK Don]

Not to worry - I'm looking for a near-by car, one that falls into my
lap, so to speak. I konw that our heat is nothing compared to yours,
but 100 and humid still drives me to consider tha AC to be high on the
lsit of required functioning features as well!

I did run the numbers, and figured out that a 190D at an estimated
average 35mpg driven 12,000 miles per year, will take 3 years to break
even with the SLC at 15mpg. Anything more expensive is more an
emotional response to the price of fuel than an economic one.

A search for the makings of a biodiesel plant are probably a better
use of time and money.

On 8/21/05, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay and
> Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to replace
> my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg and fuel is
> over $3 right now.
>  My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.
>  
>  Good luck and let the games begin.
>  
>  Rory
> 
> 


-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[Rory]

So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay and 
Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to replace 
my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg and fuel is 
over $3 right now.
My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert.

Good luck and let the games begin.

Rory

On 8/21/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Let's work through this -
> You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You don't have
> aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two
> running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade them in
> every other year.
> 
> I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two
> running cars at any giving time are greatly increased!
> 
> Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king,
> follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even 123. The
> long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways the only
> one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to carry all
> that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs, but I don't
> think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be way off on
> that -
> I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but that's my
> personal feeling.
> 
> My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or SDL for
> room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car.
> 
> I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the
> 300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the 450SLC,
> at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun to drive.
> Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87 300D -
> best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to be an
> excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC!
> 
> Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it --
> 
> 
> On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
> > committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I mention
> > maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
> > something "new" in the garage.
> >
> > My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
> > economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
> > the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
> > (a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate (and
> > more expensive) as the primary family car.
> >
> > This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately. I am
> > looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am hoping
> > to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
> > S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.
> >
> > Thoughts about which would be better? I understand this is a very
> > controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
> > again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
> > vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.
> >
> 
> 
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> '87 300SDL
> '81 240D
> '78 450SLC
> 
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com 
> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com 
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
>

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[BenzBarn]

Well, for christs sake I KNOW what the tool is used for and where it's used,
so in fact I'm not incorrect.  Know one asked you to be the unofficial
saviour of benz kind.


You have a lot of nerve to call be uncivilized. For a PhD, you have much to
learn

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[OK Don]

Yes! - That's how my home library is organized, and I can testify to
the accuracy of Marshall's statement!


> In addition to the frustration of trying to follow an active discussion
> thread in the absence of relevant subject headers, without a requirement
> for relevant subject lines, an archive becomes little more than a BIG
> trash can that people can root through, but with lots of resulting
> frustration. Sort of like shelving books in a library randomly or by size!
> 
> Marshall

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] which to buy?

[OK Don]

Let's work through this - 
You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You don't have
aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two
running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade them in
every other year.

I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two
running cars at any giving time are greatly increased!

Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king,
follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even 123. The
long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways the only
one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to carry all
that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs, but I don't
think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be way off on
that -
I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but that's my
personal feeling.

My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or SDL for
room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car.

I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the
300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the 450SLC,
at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun to drive.
Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87 300D -
best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to be an
excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC!

Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it -- 


On 8/21/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
> committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I mention
> maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
> something "new" in the garage.
> 
> My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
> economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
> the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
> (a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate (and
> more expensive) as the primary family car.
> 
> This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately. I am
> looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am hoping
> to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
> S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.
> 
> Thoughts about which would be better?  I understand this is a very
> controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
> again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
> vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.
> 


-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Marshall Booth]

Joe Knight wrote:

And I thought this thread had something to do with the chain crimping
tool.  Silly me!


I must agree, but I don't know of any way to efficaciously answer or 
comment on a particular post without retaining the original "subject." I 
notice that your post about not changing misleading "subject lines" 
retained the "Chain crimp tool" subject line as well.


If there were a CLEAR policy on that (say change the line followed by a 
"was - old subject") then I'd sure TRY to follow it (I'm SURE I'd 
sometimes slip) but there seems to be NO clear policy and changing the 
subject line when that's relevant is a rare and pleasant surprise - not 
something that's routinely done.


In addition to the frustration of trying to follow an active discussion 
thread in the absence of relevant subject headers, without a requirement 
for relevant subject lines, an archive becomes little more than a BIG 
trash can that people can root through, but with lots of resulting 
frustration. Sort of like shelving books in a library randomly or by size!


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

[MBZ] which to buy?

[LT Don]

I think Debbie is starting to get the "diesel bug." She hasn't
committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I mention
maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for
something "new" in the garage.

My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel
economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and
the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class
(a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate (and
more expensive) as the primary family car.

This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately. I am
looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am hoping
to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the
S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan.

Thoughts about which would be better?  I understand this is a very
controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once
again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family
vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable.

-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Joe Knight]

And I thought this thread had something to do with the chain crimping
tool.  Silly me!

Re: [MBZ] Opinions on 1989 300TE

[Marshall Booth]

Vernon Ritchey wrote:

I am seeking recommendations on a possible purchase.
 
I have an opportunity to buy a 1989 300 TE.  It has about 130K miles 
with about 25K on the engine since rebuild (new commercial short block 
and head rebuilt). Many other critical parts are almost new. Initial 
inspection and dialog with owner leads me to believe this car is in 
excellent condition.  It is overpriced according to NADA and Edmunds but 
I suspect the condition justifies the price.
 
I am familiar with 123 and 126 diesels but don't know much about 124s or 
gassers.  So I'm lookin for input on the desirability of this car.  
Knowkedgable opinions on the 124 wagon and the 3L gasser motor would be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks


The 124 wagon is (in MY opinion) the finest station wagon ever designed. 
It's a DELIGHTFUL road car - rides almost as well as a W126 "S" class 
car. The M103 engine is a good engine with a useful life of about 
200-250kmi (once the early valve guides were replaced) before the engine 
requires a LOT of work, but I have questions about the condition of any 
car that required that the engine be replaced at 100kmi.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

[MBZ] Opinions on 1989 300TE

[Vernon Ritchey]

I am seeking recommendations on a possible purchase.

I have an opportunity to buy a 1989 300 TE.  It has about 130K miles with about 
25K on the engine since rebuild (new commercial short block and head rebuilt). 
Many other critical parts are almost new. Initial inspection and dialog with 
owner leads me to believe this car is in excellent condition.  It is overpriced 
according to NADA and Edmunds but I suspect the condition justifies the price.

I am familiar with 123 and 126 diesels but don't know much about 124s or 
gassers.  So I'm lookin for input on the desirability of this car.  
Knowkedgable opinions on the 124 wagon and the 3L gasser motor would be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks


Scott Ritchey
Niceville, FL
1982 300 SD 220K miles
1979 300 TD 350K miles

Re: [MBZ] Power steering question-240D

[Marshall Booth]

Dwight E. Giles, Jr. wrote:

Can I use Mercon/Dexron ATF in my PS pump to top it off? Owners' manual
just says ATF-no type specified. 
TIA.

Dwight


DexronIII/Mercon is fine BUT it becomes a little "stiff" if temps get 
down to zero (F) or lower. The system was designed to use type A ATF and 
type A was a bit less viscous. Mobil 1 ATF solves that problem by having 
a less steep temperature viscosity curve so it doesn't stiffen up as 
much in cold weather.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Power steering question-240D

[Mitch Haley]

"Dwight E. Giles, Jr." wrote:
> 
> Can I use Mercon/Dexron ATF in my PS pump to top it off? Owners' manual
> just says ATF-no type specified.

If it's got red stuff in it now, you can. 
Otherwise, flush the system out with dexIII/mercon so you know what's in it.


But the fact that you're asking this question implies that you've never
changed the fluid. I'd at least change the fluid in the reservoir and
replace the filter. When I bought my 300SD, there was NO filter in the
bottom of the reservoir. Some maroon had removed it and never put a
new one in, or even returned the dirty filter to its' home.

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Injection Pump

[Marshall Booth]

Peter Arnold wrote:

My car is at an Indy that was highly recommended by my Indy as a
consultant for my injection pump service.
I've been quoted $700 for a rebuilt pump from "Yankee Diesel"

How many hours labor for an Indy to make this swap?



It (exchange pump and set timing) can be done in less than two hours if 
everything goes smoothly.


Has it been established without question that the pump I bad??

Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Marshall Booth]

Uncivil Dan wrote:

> Why would a diesel expert make such an assumption about hydraulic
> lifter base setting tools and I thought you don't answer unsigned
> posts? lol

When you wrote:

> This tool is for setting the base measurement on hydraulic lifters.
> Can't be done without one.

you intimated this was necessary for Mercedes engines with hydraulic 
lifters, but it is clearly of NO use for the OM60x diesel engines.


You did NOT ask a question, and I did not answer one. I challenged your 
statement because I believed it to be incorrect!


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] a challenge for you engineers

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 5:40 PM -0500 8/14/05, Luther Gulseth wrote:
That's easy!  Go down to wal-mart, pay $20 for a little FM synthesizer 
that plugs into any 1/8" stereo jack, fire it up, and tune your walkman in 
to the frequency.  Don't redesign the wheel, just re-allocate it.

(my pologies for mie badd spelin!)


Yup.  I gots one of them little doohickeys around.  With a good clear 
frequency, one will cover an entire Philly rowhouse and out to the 
curb.  :D


-MMM-

[MBZ] Power steering question-240D

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr.]

Can I use Mercon/Dexron ATF in my PS pump to top it off? Owners' manual
just says ATF-no type specified. 
TIA.
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr.
1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
Wickford RI
 

Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft seal project/dirty radiatior

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 8/20/2005 6:48:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

During  this process I think I found why my engine was running hot. It seems 
that  stuff was getting through the A/C cooling fines and getting trapped in  
front of the radiator cooling fins. About 1/3 of the radiator cooling  
surface was covered with grass, dust and debrea, I don't think the front  
crank shaft seal leak help either, oil leaking from the front seal may  also 
have given the stuff something to stick to  also.



HMMMN:  
 
What I have been trying to tell people for years.   You cannot  see this 
dirt!  Nor can you blow this dirt out without damaging  the fins.  Any radiator 
that has not been removed for several years or  75,000 miles, is probably a 
candidate for removal and EXTERIOR cleaning.   Especially you owners in the 
open 
range and bug country.
 
Thanks for bringing that up.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] blower motor info

[Joe Knight]

I expect you know the epc doesn't speak Bosch, Constantine, but
plugging blower p/n into a search it indicates that 126 820 05 42 is
common to 126.024/025/032/033/035/037/039/043/044/045/120/125/134/135.
 Looks like that's virtually all 126 that were officially imported
into the NA mkt.  Don't see any indication that the p/n's been
superceded since start of production.

joe

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[LT Don]

Naw, ok once you get moving. 

On 8/21/05, Dwight E. Giles, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As long as you don't try to use another 240D to pull it.
> 
> Dwight Giles, Jr.
> 1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:13 AM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question
> 
> A pull start works really well, too.
> 
> 
> 
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If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr.]

As long as you don't try to use another 240D to pull it.

Dwight Giles, Jr.
1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
Wickford RI
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:13 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

A pull start works really well, too.

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[LT Don]

A pull start works really well, too.

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[72benz250]

Hey Brian,

have you charge the battery since? did you use a battery tender or something?

Batteries do tend to loose their charge over time. Not just that, it's not 
voltage that turns a starter but amperage. I have seen bateries show 12V on a 
meter but act the way you're describing.

Have you tried jumpstarting it? 

-- Original message -- 

> Standard response, make sure all connections are clean and tight. You only 
> need a slight amount of corrosion under the terminals to get a poor 
> connection. Also if the battery has been discharged completely at some stage 
> then it may damage your battery. 
> 
> Hendrik 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Chase" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:33 AM 
> Subject: [MBZ] No Start Question 
> 
> 
> > Listers, 
> > 
> > A basic question, so bear with me. 
> > 
> > I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty well when 
> I 
> > left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage. 
> > 
> > Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left it, and 
> I 
> > don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say I'm not 
> > pleased with my brother. 
> > 
> > Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to 
> > the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery 
> > right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while 
> > cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new. 
> > 
> > So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had run it 
> out 
> > of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom, i.e. the 
> > engine being tight, but not siezed yet? 
> > 
> > Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools at my 
> > disposal. 
> > 
> > Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me back to 
> > MN. WE. 
> > 
> > Brian 
> > 83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit! 
> > 
> > _ 
> > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to 
> > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Injection Pump

[Tom Hargrave]

I've always swapped my own & don't know the official hours. Have you
mechanic show you what's in the rate book. 


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Arnold
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL Injection Pump

My car is at an Indy that was highly recommended by my Indy as a consultant
for my injection pump service.
I've been quoted $700 for a rebuilt pump from "Yankee Diesel"

How many hours labor for an Indy to make this swap?

Thanks.

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 229 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

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Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[Steve MacSween]

someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mac wrote:
>Ah, okay, I only mentioned it as you had mentioned you drove
>trucks, and
>some truck guys refer to the entire injector as a 'nozzle' in casual
>conversation, or around here they do anyway.
Yea some did, I was just trying to be more MB specific. IIRC most of those
Chicken-haulers who called them Nozzles instead of Injectors drove
Peterbuilt's with Kitty-Kats  Russ H

Ooooh. I would settle for a Dog Ram with a Cumm-here-darling :-0. LoL.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] cheap CD

[Steve MacSween]

Look again at the listing. That car needs a LOT. Quite rusty too. Actually I
don't think it's cheap at all (~ $1025 when I checked). Not everyone has a
yardful o'123s waiting to donate parts, ya'know, Kaleb :-0.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I dont believe in that so called proven truth.
> 
> Chuck Landenberger wrote:
> 
>> Remember the old proven truth...  Ain't nuthin' more expensive
>> than a cheap Mercedes
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Phoenix, AZ
>> On Aug 20, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300cd-1983-
>>> Mercedes-Benz-300CD-TURBO-DIESEL-2-door-
>>> coupe_W0QQitemZ4568863657QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>> -- 
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
>>> 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>>> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
>>> Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
>>> 
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[MBZ] 300SDL Injection Pump

[Peter Arnold]

My car is at an Indy that was highly recommended by my Indy as a
consultant for my injection pump service.
I've been quoted $700 for a rebuilt pump from "Yankee Diesel"

How many hours labor for an Indy to make this swap?

Thanks.

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 229 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[BenzBarn]

 It's used for V8 style engines. Everything from 1976 and on. 450, 380, 500,
6.9 and 560  that I've seen.  I know some newer diesels have hydraulic
lifters but all the ones I've worked on are mechanical.

However, I was talking about MB tools in general; how expensive they can be
and how little you might end up using them once you have them, while noting
that some are absolutely necessary.
 Why would a diesel expert make such an assumption  about  hydraulic lifter
base setting tools and I thought you don't answer unsigned posts? lol

[MBZ] WIS on DVD on eBay!

[Kayoooh]

At 05:18 PM 8/20/2005, you wrote:
>Anybody tried the newer DVD version of the EPC?  I see them on ebay from
>time to time and am thinking about getting one.
>--
>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK

Kaleb,
I ordered the WIS out of the UK ( I believe for 8.99 pounds plus appropriate
shipping).

To begin with, lock the seller into  a firm amount for postage before
bidding as he told me after the fact that the amount quoted on eBay is only
for the UK.

When I tried to install the program it kept hanging on the last step on one
computer but installed on the notebook without a problem.
In the istructions included with it, it specifies not to chose US English
for some reason which I have to find out why! It also gives a last check to
acertain that the install went as it should but my installation on the
notebook failed that check!

I'll try and install it on a third computer before I start complaining to
him.

There is a very nice gentleman on this list who provides the same product
and may give better service for those in the US. I apologize for I misplaced
his email address.

I hope this helps.

Omar.

Re: [MBZ] cheap CD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I dont believe in that so called proven truth.

Chuck Landenberger wrote:

Remember the old proven truth...  Ain't nuthin' more expensive  
than a cheap Mercedes


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Aug 20, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300cd-1983- 
Mercedes-Benz-300CD-TURBO-DIESEL-2-door- 
coupe_W0QQitemZ4568863657QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] CL list of mid august cars

[Woodlandtaylors]

How about this one.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92322519.html

Dennis T

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of redghost
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:21 PM
To: Mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] CL list of mid august cars

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91299853.html  --83 300D $2600cdn


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Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[RAH]

Mac wrote:

>Ah, okay, I only mentioned it as you had mentioned you drove
>trucks, and
>some truck guys refer to the entire injector as a 'nozzle' in casual
>conversation, or around here they do anyway.

Yea some did, I was just trying to be more MB specific. IIRC most of those 
Chicken-haulers who called them Nozzles instead of Injectors drove Peterbuilt's 
with Kitty-Kats  Russ H

Re: [MBZ] CL cars of mid august

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91782327.html   --93 s320  $7700

"Moving, must sell by Monday"

I thought all the junk bond fugitives had been dealt with already.

Good lord.

mac

Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Filter it through a toilet paper filter and dump it all in with nearly a 
full tank.You won't even notice it's there.  Mike


If your going to filter M-1 thru a toilet paper filter, you might as 
well just put in back into the engine sump - it's been shown it can last 
for up to 60kmi - maybe more when filtered that way.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

[MBZ] The first Diesel Superbike: the Star Twin ThunderStar 1200 TDI

[Craig McCluskey]

http://www.gizmag.com/go/4273/

Craig

Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[RAH]

Marshall wrote:
 >The nozzles (NOT the injectors) cost almost $30 EACH now

I'm not asking for Giveaways, I'll pay $35 EACH for NOS Bosch or MB German 
nozzles. 


Marshall wrote:
>Not clear that you can get ANYTHING that is made in Germany >any more. 
>Bosch has a part number and all you can do is order the part with >THAT 
>part number. There is NO reason why the part can't be made >anywhere in the 
>world to the same standards.

 Apparently Bosch moved all or most of their production to India, and they 
either rushed production or never could finish the needle and seat faces 
properly. Have even heard the tiny holes are not dilled all the way or not even 
there. Needless to say poor or nonexistent spray patterns from new Bosch 
Nozzles or Rebuilds!
Maybe all this is a load of BS, who knows? But I don't want to find out the 
hard way!
  If you know a Injector professional would you ask what he knows about the 
Quality of the new nozzles? It might clear things up.

There I went and did it and won't get a single nozzle!  Russ H

Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures

[Marshall Booth]

Joe Knight wrote:

Odo not turning some of the time would indicate *lower* than actual
mileage anyway.

joe


Darn. I hate it when I do that!!

Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

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http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

[Marshall Booth]

BenzBarn wrote:

This tool is for setting the base measurement on hydraulic lifters. Can't be
done without one.
There's a small pin that rests on top of the lifter along with the tool and
a small red line is on the pin. If it shows red when you place it right you
need a thicker or thinner lash pad under the rocker.
 Any noise at idle is usually from worn lifters, lash pad adjustment or low
oil pressure.
By the time all these things  take their toll the cam lobes are usually worn
out so checking base settings is a waste of time.
Some people don't want to spend money on their cars just to fix a little
tick at idle if everything else is OK. Again, and in that case, more waste
of time to take any measurements.

However, you can't do the base settings without this rather expensive tool.


On which DIESEL models is this tool required?

Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

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Re: [MBZ] No Start Question

[Hendrik Riessen]

Standard response, make sure all connections are clean and tight. You only
need a slight amount of corrosion under the terminals to get a poor
connection. Also if the battery has been discharged completely at some stage
then it may damage your battery.

Hendrik

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:33 AM
Subject: [MBZ] No Start Question


> Listers,
>
> A basic question, so bear with me.
>
> I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty well when
I
> left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage.
>
> Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left it, and
I
> don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say I'm not
> pleased with my brother.
>
> Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to
> the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery
> right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while
> cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new.
>
> So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had run it
out
> of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom, i.e. the
> engine being tight, but not siezed yet?
>
> Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools at my
> disposal.
>
> Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me back to
> MN. WE.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit!
>
> _
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> get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft seal change on a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

[Joe Knight]

Sounds like a pretty elegant solution to locking the crank, Robert. 
How'd you go about torquing the M18?  I'm guessing you stood on the
longest cheater you could fit into the engine compartment.  Bummer
about the shutoff, but at least you made some progress.

joe

Re: [MBZ] Great timing

[Hendrik Riessen]

Hi list,

While we are talking two wheel transport I thought I'd share the latest from
MB.
http://www.gizmag.com.au/go/3834/
Looks like the sort of bike grandma would ride but then again given the
price of go juice these days..
Wonder what the sticker price is on one of these? I suppose if you have to
ask the price then you probably can't afford one:-)

Hendrik
04 Giant 24 speed pushbike with front shocks but a hard-tail

- Original Message -
From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great timing


> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:12:11 -0700 redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > http://www.mountainbiketales.com/Verdra3.htm
> >
> >
> > Maybe they knew fuel prices were going to have us bent over.  This is
> > the new way to get to work?
>
> Some interesting looking bikes there. I noticed that some of them couldn't
> even steer before I went to the update and found,
>
> > Alert readers will already have discovered for themselves that the story
> > about the Specialized Venom line is an April Fool's type prank.
> > Specialized manufactures some of the world's best mountain bikes, but it
> > has no plans to produce futuristic bicycles of this kind.
>
>
> Craig
>
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[MBZ] Crankshaft seal change on a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

[Robert Massmann]

Well I got the seal changed on my 190 today. I still have to install the 
radiator, cooling fan, and miscellaneous items that were removed to complete 
the task.  I ended up removing a bolt from the torque convert /flywheel 
attachment point and then I took a long bolt and an deep well socket and 
threaded it in where the bolt was. The socket was to stabilize the bolt. 
This arrangement sticks out the access hole in the trans bell-housing. This 
allowed me to remove and install the bolt M18 that holds the crankshaft 
pulley to the crankshaft. The setup worked very well.


During this process I think I found why my engine was running hot. It seems 
that stuff was getting through the A/C cooling fines and getting trapped in 
front of the radiator cooling fins. About 1/3 of the radiator cooling 
surface was covered with grass, dust and debrea, I don't think the front 
crank shaft seal leak help either, oil leaking from the front seal may also 
have given the stuff something to stick to also.


On another note, I did get the shut-off vacuum servo removed.  The ring that 
clamps the plug in place does slide up the connector in one position to 
allow removal of the servo pod. I did run into a problem though. the new 
servo is a bigger diameter and does not allow the plug connector locking 
ring to return to the correct position. So I will have to wait until 
Thursday to get the correct bosh unit. The dealer had to special order it 
from a Bosh parts dealer.  It seems that the Benz parts system says that the 
original part had been superseded, but it won't work in my car. So it look 
like I will have to be doing a manual shut-off for a couple more days. 

Re: [MBZ] epc

[Dan & Sandy Steadman]

Rusty,
Do you have these available?

Dan Steadman
- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] epc


Anybody tried the newer DVD version of the EPC?  I see them on ebay from 
time to time and am thinking about getting one.

--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

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[MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD

[RAH]

>From: Mitch Haley 
>Where are the new (current) ones made?
>If 4 years will do it, I'd call my local Bosch distributor and see
>if I get incredibly lucky.
 
They are made in India. Russ H

Re: [MBZ] brake warning light

[LT Don]

If they offer me a contract valued in the millions, all of use here
get a 320CDI.

On 8/20/05, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:53:48 -0500 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > * = My eyesight is improving for some reason. Left contact went from
> > -1.25 to -.50 & right contact went from -.75 to -.25. I can now see
> > literally to the horizon without any blurring. Perhaps frequent
> > exposure to #2 diesel  and Mobil 1 fumes improves visual acuity. My
> > eyes were getting progressively worse when I was driving an Acura. I
> > had my last eye exam about the same time that I got my 240D.
> 
> I can see the manufacturers lining up with sign-up bonuses:
> 
>   Drive an old MB Diesel and use Mobil 1 and get better vision!!!
> 
> 
> We'll soon see Don's likeness all over hawking their wares ...
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

Re: [MBZ] brake warning light

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:53:48 -0500 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * = My eyesight is improving for some reason. Left contact went from
> -1.25 to -.50 & right contact went from -.75 to -.25. I can now see
> literally to the horizon without any blurring. Perhaps frequent
> exposure to #2 diesel  and Mobil 1 fumes improves visual acuity. My
> eyes were getting progressively worse when I was driving an Acura. I
> had my last eye exam about the same time that I got my 240D.

I can see the manufacturers lining up with sign-up bonuses:

  Drive an old MB Diesel and use Mobil 1 and get better vision!!!


We'll soon see Don's likeness all over hawking their wares ...



Craig

Re: [MBZ] epc

[frederick w moir]

I've sent for one, plus WIS. I'll keep you posted
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
It's diesel this and diesel that and "chuck 'im out, the brute!" RK (apologies)

At 05:18 PM 8/20/2005, you wrote:

Anybody tried the newer DVD version of the EPC?  I see them on ebay from
time to time and am thinking about getting one.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

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[MBZ] AZ Craigslist MB

[Chuck Landenberger]

 Slim Pickins..  No, not that guy

1983 Mercedes 300D - $1000 (Peoria, AZ)

take care,

Chuck

Phoenix, AZ

Re: [MBZ] epc

[Joe Knight]

It's cool if you're running XP Pro or 2K.  Worldwide options w/
datacards.  No pricing.  Liked the Blue pages in the old Applications
index better than the Shop Materials listings in the new one is about
all.  It's fully searchable for p/n to model which is real nice. 
Installation's a bit of a PITA.  Takes a fair amount of disk space if
you want all the bells & whistles, Trucks, buses, etc, but you can
install as much or little as you want. v.11.4.3

joe

[MBZ] CL cars of mid august

[redghost]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92322519.html  -75 diesel van

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92280509.html  --71 MOG  $8500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92257317.html  --93 TE  $6500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92257317.html  --81 TD  $2k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92219851.html  --87 2.5 auto  $5500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92197129.html  --75 SEL  $3500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92141356.html  --fuel tank

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92032123.html  --85 SEC  $3500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/92017949.html  --59 220s  $18k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91984446.html  --Pimps E320  $15k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91970558.html  --62 Bugeye sprite 
$2500


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91969740.html  --78 280se  $3k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91952249.html  --59 220se  $1500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91951253.html   --Replicar  $7500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91673137.html  --70 280se  $2700

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91883608.html  --87 TD  $6500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91782327.html   --93 s320  $7700

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/91904487.html  --52 170  $2k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/91769438.html  --68 200D  $500


Not mine, can be yours, will look at them if you need, no affiliation


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA