Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Check the torque convertor drain plug! Else it's the front seal blown out or a cracked pump housing (ouch!). Hope it's the drain plug. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
I think the turbo got CIS to deal with air flow around the turbo. Later Volvo turbos had LH-Jetronic, as my sister's 740 turbo did. Peter On Sunday, September 11, 2005, at 03:29 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: L-Jet? in 75 I'd have though it was D-Jet, same as the 73 Fastback my sister had. She sold it because the fuel injectors and lines kept leaking, was afraid it would catch fire. I've seen far too many VW's burning on the side of the road, probably a good idea! Nope, L-Jet. 1975 was the first year for fuel injection on the Bus, too. VW stuck with similar systems all the way through the end of the Vanagon production run -- aircooled and watercooled gas Vanagons got Digifant or Digijet, which used many of the same components but had more sophisticated ECUs. They held onto what I think is the worst part of the system, the mechanical mass airflow sensor. Volvo used LH-Jetronic for years on the Volvo 240. It was a similar system to L-Jet, but used a hotwire airflow sensor instead of the mechanical flap. Turbocharged 240s got CIS instead, for some reason. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oh joy! Another oil thread!
Given that soot report, and not knowing the rest of the story, I'd like to hear some reasoning, both pro and con, for changing the filter. Jerry Ö¿Ö ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh joy! Another oil thread! Can't let an oil thread die! I got the results from the last analysis on the 300SDL this week - at 10,682 miles on the oil (Mobil 1) there was 0.6% soot. I'm going to change the filter, add oil to half way between the marks, and sample again at another 10k miles. I'll report the results -- -- I'll be happy to email the pdf of the results if anyone wants to see them.
Re: [MBZ] IRON DUKE, was VEGA
Yes. And the new 4 is also the same engine. I've heard the six is OK, the 5 posts good numbers but doesn't feel as powerful as the dyno says it should. Is that new I-5 of theirs an I-6 with one cylinder missing? It's kind of interesting to see the U.S. car makers discover the 5-cylinder layout. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 182k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
Re: [MBZ] SOS from a list member
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: good luck. Its sure great to have list members to help out. Very true!!! I wish I could help out on this call for help, but the only suggestions I had (cooler line and drain plug) have already been taken and proven wrong... best of luck in getting it repaired with as little $$ damage as possible! John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] IRON DUKE, was VEGA
The later sunbirds along with the Simmeron and Cavalier were FWD, and those in the late 70's were rwd models. I know that they put v6's in the early Sunbirds, Monzas and Skyhawks, but I don't know what 4 cyl engine was available. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
Re: [MBZ] IRON DUKE, was VEGA
Is that new I-5 of theirs an I-6 with one cylinder missing? Yes indeedee. There's also an I-4 version (my dad has one in his Chevy Colorado. It even has variable valve timing that kicks in at around 4000 RPM when it really starts to go! The 2.8L I4 develops 175 HP, the 3.5L I5 develops 220 HP, and the 4.2L I6 develops 270 HP. It's too bad that these aren't diesels. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom
[MBZ] W124 center console removal
Ok I feel like a newbie having to ask, but I tried to clean out the window swiches in swmbo's 87 300D with spray contact cleaner and screwed them totaly. What is the procedure for removing the wood insert in the center console that holds the switches? I can do a W126 in my sleep but I can't see any screws under the ash tray in the dark. Thanks, Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL
[MBZ] The old 6.3 vs everything else.....
Not much of a surprise, since the M100 was designed in the 1959-1962 time frame (without computers, lol) and was VERY powerful for it's displacement at the time. 300 hp, 400 ft/lbs torque in 1963 on 6.3L was HUGE. It gave the 600 Pullman 0-60 times of around 11 sec and a top speed of 130 mph, no slouch! Installed in the 300 SEL 6.3 it gave 0-60 times of 6.3 sec, top speed 130 mph in 1970-72, the fastest production sedan built at the time, beat out any of the big block american iron by a handy margin at much less displacement (360 ci vs 455 or 500!) I was OK with most of this right up to the end. My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. That is not a handy margin. And I would guess the Chevy engine was more economical and far more reliable. BTW, the data I've seen shows the 6.3's top speed higher than 130 but not 140. These days most modern cars that aren't Saturns or low end Toyotas can beat that. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] The old 6.3 vs everything else.....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. I thought the 300HP engine had that silly Hillman fuel injection. I still can't believe that Tom MacCahill from Mechanics Illustrated claimed to go over 160mph in one. I think it was 168 for the coupe and 156 for the convertible. Thirty years later, if you tried going 150 in a Viper targa you'd destroy the roof.
[MBZ] Manual reference for park/neutral lockout switch in w123?
Can anyone tell me what section of the maintenance manuals the park/neutral interlock switch happens to fall? I'm coming up blank. 1982 w123 240d. TIA mac
Re: [MBZ] The old 6.3 vs everything else.....
A few points - the Corvette's 300 HP was at the flywheel with no accessories, etc. The MB was a ready to roll engine. DIN HP measurments vs US HP measurements (at the time). At the time, the 300SEL 6.3 was the fastest production SEDAN. It didn't compete with Vette's - would have lost for sure. It's an apples and oranges thing. I was OK with most of this right up to the end. My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. That is not a handy margin. And I would guess the Chevy engine was more economical and far more reliable. BTW, the data I've seen shows the 6.3's top speed higher than 130 but not 140. These days most modern cars that aren't Saturns or low end Toyotas can beat that. RLE/Seattle -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
[MBZ] 124 Fan
Hi, All. Well, today I went to the JY and proceeded to pull an heater fan for my 201. Brain fart city! Took one out of a 300E (can you say 124?). Any one want a good Fan motor assy. with porcupine for $40? On another note, this afternoon I briefly saw a BMW Vixen motorhome. Odd looking beast. Google says that it has a 2.4 liter turbo-diesel producing 115 ps. and gets up to 24 mpg. Not bad for a small 4 person RV. Only five more days 'til Friday. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA 300TD 190DT 190D 190E RIP Toyota Corolla VE (the cheap (Scottish) one.) And NO 124's!!
Re: [MBZ] Trigger points
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 1972 W108 had electronic fuel injection and points to trigger the electronic ignition.. Yes. But the trigger points below the distributor plate had nothing to do with the ignition system. I'm not talking about the _fuel_ trigger points, but the single, looks-just-like-my-old-chevy points just under the rotor - used to fire the electronic ignition. Philip, while saying I can't prove it 'casue the car's been gone for 4 years now.
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
rumor has it that Curt wrote: The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. If this is an automatic, the very first thing to do is to check neutral safety switch. Make sure you're not trying to start in in gear, then try both Park and Neutral, then wiggle the shifter lever in both positions. I would also turn on some light (interior, headlight - something you can see from the drivers seat) and then turn the key to start. If the light dims out, your battery is dead. If not, continue with the trouble shooting process. Also, the older starters sometimes need a good hammer thump on the solonoid. A rubber mallet (also known as a Dr. Booth lug wrench enhancer) works quite well. I've also use pipes, firewood, a monkey wrench, and a 2x6. *grin* Changing the starter is too much work to do if it isn't really necessary Philip, lazy mechanic
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:19:14 -0500 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. With the rear wheels OFF the ground, I hope! Craig
[MBZ] Corvette confusion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. I thought the 300HP engine had that silly Hillman fuel injection. I still can't believe that Tom MacCahill from Mechanics Illustrated claimed to go over 160mph in one. I think it was 168 for the coupe and 156 for the convertible. Thirty years later, if you tried going 150 in a Viper targa you'd destroy the roof. Hillman? You must be thinking of Hilborn. Which was not the GM system. The base '63 250HP had a two-barrel and the 300HP had a four-barrel. The FI engine had solid lifters and I don't recall the HP. It was too expensive and unnecessary for me. I doubt that I ever ran mine flat out and at the track it was not so hot with it's lousy Chevy II drum brakes. Damn good autocross car, though. On Michelins. I find those speeds suspicious because of what had to be high drag plus I'll guess a lot of front end lift what with no front spoiler. 168mph takes a lot of power. Best hiway mileage was 20mpg (four-speed, of course). $5000 then, $3 now. RLE/Seattle
[MBZ] 6.3 and Corvettes, apples and oranges
A few points - the Corvette's 300 HP was at the flywheel with no accessories, etc. The MB was a ready to roll engine. DIN HP measurments vs US HP measurements (at the time). At the time, the 300SEL 6.3 was the fastest production SEDAN. It didn't compete with Vette's - would have lost for sure. It's an apples and oranges thing. The MB's HP was also at the flywheel and the difference between SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) and DIN (Deutsche Industrie Norm) in those days could be 10%. But if you took the FI Corvette at maybe 360HP vs the MB 6.3 at 300, it probably had a slight edge with about 9% less displacement. My original point was that 300HP from 378CI (it's 60 cubic inches per liter, isn't it?) was not exclusive. As to the 6.3 sedan, it is indeed a wonderful device within it's limitations. I hate to quote someone for whom I have so little respect, but just recently on the Ritter list, Ritter himself opined that truthfully, the 6.3 was woefully underbraked for it's performance and that it's handling was iffy because of the swing axle. This surprised me no end. Even the long time experienced techs at my dealer (both of them at about 30 years service), one of which is putting his own 6.3 back together and takes care of a 600swb and a 108 3.5 cab on a regular basis admits freely that the 6.3 is a bit of a nightmare, reliability wise. The whole car. And, parts these days are disappearing. And don't mention the Classic Center, a black hole. Orders in, nothing out. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] Corvette confusion
My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. The FI engine had solid lifters and I don't recall the HP. 1963 327 FI = 360@ 6000rpm http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sbsum1.html Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Yeah, I built a sb or two...
Re: [MBZ] W124 center console removal
Pulling back the carpet will reveal one phillips screw. Remove this screw and pull upward (gently) on the wood. -Aaron 1987 300D
Re: [MBZ] anybody ever seen anything like this?
Wasn't the 560SEL rerar susp. an SLS type or was that only an option and not all cars had it? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! Philip, gota have guages
Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] New Linux list
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: Had considered making it not only a linux list but a general computer list. *shutter* That would be like making as list for Mercedes cars and then encouraging folks to post about moose er, I mean, _mopeds_. Yeah. Mopeds. That's what I meant, mopeds Philip, Is it Friday?
Re: [MBZ] The old 6.3 vs everything else.....
The 6.3 was a HOSS -- only displaces 360 ci, so not all that much bigger than a 327 chevy. A two ton sedan doing 0-60 in 6.3 sec is STILL pretty much top of the line, after all! top speed? 130 by the book, faster if you don't mind over-reving some -- factory redline is 5800 rpm on the 6.3, but you could probably squeeze 6000 out of it with some extra cylinder wall wear. The later 4.5L M117 were rev limited to 6200 rpm for some reason, and give 135 mph at that rpm with 3.27 rear end gears. Don't remember what the rear end ratio was for the 6.3, but I think something like 2.75 or so to give the same speed at lower rpm. Figure a Corvette at 2/3 or less the weight (they aren't all that light) and sure, it's both faster and accelerates better, but is no match for the 300 SEL for comfort and drivability with five passengers and 250 lbs of luggage. Remember that SAE hp ratings in the 60's and early 70's were VERY optomistic -- as noted, no oil pump, no alternator, no water pump, etc. DIN ratings were essentially what you would get at the rear tires big difference. I'd guess the 327 was actually much closer to 225 hp than 300, maybe 250. Certainly NOT the same as the M100. Look up the acceleration times for a Cadillac Sedan de Ville with a 500 for a better comparison. The M100 is nearly bullet proof IF, and only IF, you keep the mixture under proper control -- lean it out too much (and they sometimes go lean on their own) and you fry the valves and/or pistons. There are still plenty of them around -- I was offered three of them a couple years ago while my brother and I were getting parts for his 75 300D W115 -- the cars were rustbuckets, engines ready to run. Peter
Re: [MBZ] The old 6.3 vs everything else.....
That silly Hillman FI raised the hp quite a bit. You should remember that those 327s were pretty much custom manufacture and don't represent the standard production engines very well. Longevity? How many are still around compared to M100s? Pushrod engine simply means low end torque and limited rpm, the opposite of MB practice, where the torque is mostly above 2500 rpm and redline is never lower that 5000 rpm, even on the diesels. Six cylinders normally redline at 6600 rpm, small V8s at 6200, and the M100 at 5800 (due to long stroke, I'd bet). The early 60's Vettes were lighter than the later ones, and had better performance, too. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 6.3 and Corvettes, apples and oranges
Any German car built before 1980 was a rust nightmare, I've had four or so of them and the all have or had rust problems (junked the Audi Fox for that reason). The W109 chassis was no exception, and there are some other strange things. The 600 Grand is like any other custom built car, full of nightmares that wouldn't have existed in a mass produced car (although no Benz before 1976 was assembled on an assembly line anyway). The hydraulic system in the Grand can drive anyone crazy (seats, door opener/closers, windows), the air suspension is a headache of major magnitude as well (funny, MB aquired it and it worked reliably for the original owner, but not after they got their hands on it!) The suspension for the 300 6.3 was introduced in 1953, not a shock that it was getting a bit long in the tooth by 1972, and yes, the swing axle will jack under very heavy cornering, and can surprise the driver a bit. It won't flip the car over like the Corvair, but it does push the rear up sometimes. The front suspension also has fairly low caster by modern standards, and will plow at high speed. I would agree with the brakes --as good as they are, they should have been better for the 6.3 -- at least it had the anti-dive rods in the back so it didn't pitch down so badly. Quite a surprise for young drivers who've never driven a car subject to brake dive! The SAE hp numbers were VERY optimistic -- 25% would be a better number NOT because of the location of determination, but because it was perfectly permissible to publish hp ratings WITH EXTERNAL OILING AND NO ACCESSORIES -- the oil pump will eat 15 hp sometimes, the water pump at full speed will be worth 5 -10, ditto for alternator, ps pump. And it was permissible to use either open ports, a non-standard cam, or tuned headers instead of the factory installed exhaust -- quite a scandal as I remember when GM (in particular, although everyone else cheated as well) had to drop their claimed hp ratings up to 25% when it became known how the hp was determined. It wasn't unheard of to use 13:1 pistons and av gas instead of the 9:1 pistons actually sold in the car, either Not a problem with the standard, per se, but with meeting it Benz and BMW have always rated the hp as installed, determined on a stock engine with stock exhaust and full accessories. Makes one hell of a difference. Benz is also somewhat conservative with hp output in general, probably to make the engines last longer. They get flogged pretty hard in Germany, more so in the past than now, I suspect. They had a reputation for longevity under hard use, although no one has ever suggested with a straight face they are low maintenance engines. I guess my point is that the M100 was known as quite an engine in it's day, and like any Benz engine of the period, would run for hours on end at more or less top speed. More so than today, anyway, since back then there was much less traffic on the Autobahn and full speed running was much easier. The Chevy engines were known in Germany as cheap horsepower with the expectation they wouldn't hold up as well -- too lightly built. Peter
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while.
Re: [MBZ] IRON DUKE, was VEGA
Guess you were right on this one, the first inline 4 was a 153 cid with a 1 barrel that made 90hp and 152 lbs ft of torque. The smallest 6 was a 194 Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard engine for the early Chevy IIs was the cast iron 4 banger. This engine was the the same as the reliable workhorse 230 CID inline 6 cylinder just missing two cylinders. Same bore and stroke etc. everything was just shorter. GM did the same thing with their first aluminum 225 CID V-6 found in some Buicks. It was just the 300 CID V-8 with two cylinders cut off. As I recall those two engines, the 225 300, had cast iron sleeve in their bores. Their major problems were corrosion of the cooling passages and threads pulling out, much like the M/B 116 series engines. They later made a cast iron version of that V-6 that was a very good engine. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Weeks Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:00 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] IRON DUKE, was VEGA That's the car. Was also available with a 4. My version of the Chevy II's was later called the Nova which started out with a inline 6 and that goes back to '62. Unless they had another Chevy II ? Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the same block as was used in the Chevy IIs in the early sixties, so it goes at least that far back. Couldn't be to far back since GM didn't have many 4 bangers in the 70's with the exception of the aluminum block 4 cyl in the Vega. The Citation came out in 79 with its sister car from Pontiac. It was Pontiac's idea to name it the iron duke in the early 80's Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GM Iron Duke 2.5 goes WAY back before the Citation. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? If my memory serves me right it was first used in GM's X bodies like the Citation Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. That was the eagle. Two engine options, 258 2bbl or a 2.5L four (depending on year, it was either the pontiac 151 or the AMC 150). In addition to the wagons (have two with sticks and a parts wagon), they made four door sedans, two door hatchbacks (called an SX4, had one with a five speed), and two door sedans (sometimes called a kammback, think 4wd gremlin). Absolutely unstoppable in the snow, and actually a fairly decent car to drive. My 84 with a dead fifth gear would still get 22-24 mpg on the freeway. It was my daily driver before the crown vic, which preceeded the flock of diesels. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata
Re: [MBZ] IRON DUKE, was VEGA
The later Chevy II's had its name changed to Nova and in the 60's there was 2 V8 options which were 283 and 327. They used heavier suspension parts from the Chevelle Wagen to support the extra weight of the V8's Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The early Chevy II was a boxy little car, compact by 70s standards, and a four cylinder as just fine. Remember, cars had MUCH less performance then than now, and high milage was important cause gas was proportionately more expensive than up to just recently. A six was a squeeze, and the V8 would cause the car to twist and/or bend in the front form the weight Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] Corvette confusion
That HP figures for the injected Vette went to 375 in '64, but curiously the torque dropped 2 lbs ft over the 63. Only 10 more HP for the injected 327 but the torque figures stayed the same at 350. Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. The FI engine had solid lifters and I don't recall the HP. 1963 327 FI = 360@ 6000rpm http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sbsum1.html Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Yeah, I built a sb or two... -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] anybody ever seen anything like this?
If the car was closer I would be interested. Regards, Trampas Stern -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody ever seen anything like this? Wasn't the 560SEL rerar susp. an SLS type or was that only an option and not all cars had it? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Trans Temp gauges--was SOS - update
You can buy aftermarket trans temp gauges, and they plumb in fairly easily--T in to the line out from trans to cooler with compression fittings. I installed one in the Caprice wagon I had some time ago, along with a big trans oil cooler, as I used to tow heavy trailers with it. The trans, a stock 700R4, was still going strong at 190k miles with no rebuild when I gave the car away. My wife's '02 Saab 9-5 has a trans overheat light--not as good, but something, at least. Dan Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while. -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
I personally love that I can open hood on most Mercedes and jumper the starter of fender. I have done this numerous times because of bad safety switches, ign switch, and just being lazy and not wanting to reach through window of car to start engine. I have also used the hammer/wood on starter numerous times myself. Once on my 300SD my wife called me because the car would not start, she said key would not turn to start position. Figured it was bad ign. switch, so I went to pick it up. So before I jumper the starter I got in the car, put the car in park and started it up. I got a few chuckles out of that one. I worked at an automotive shop for a few years in college and was amazed at how many cars stalled on the road and were towed in for no-starts because owner never put car in neutral or park. Oh heck lets tell another story. While me and my wife were dating she shows up one Sunday at my place and says her Honda is smoking real bad. So I ask her what she did to the car, she said Well my dad added some oil to it. Yeap he did, he noticed it leaked a little on his driveway so he added 2-3 quarts of oil. I drained the extra oil out the car magically stopped smoking. Ok one more. I was on the highway one day and stopped for some fuel. There were three older women in a suburban there at gas station who were about 200 miles from home and the thing would not start. So I asked if I could help and they said sure. Sure enough the starter would not engage. I asked if they had enough gas to get home and they said they did, so I put car in park with e-brake on, crawled under car and bypassed starter solenoid with pocket knife. The beast started and they when on home. Note that if you love your pocket knife, don't do this unless it is an emergency. The high current arc really burns a hole in the knife. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:28 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D rumor has it that Curt wrote: The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. If this is an automatic, the very first thing to do is to check neutral safety switch. Make sure you're not trying to start in in gear, then try both Park and Neutral, then wiggle the shifter lever in both positions. I would also turn on some light (interior, headlight - something you can see from the drivers seat) and then turn the key to start. If the light dims out, your battery is dead. If not, continue with the trouble shooting process. Also, the older starters sometimes need a good hammer thump on the solonoid. A rubber mallet (also known as a Dr. Booth lug wrench enhancer) works quite well. I've also use pipes, firewood, a monkey wrench, and a 2x6. *grin* Changing the starter is too much work to do if it isn't really necessary Philip, lazy mechanic ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car
That was my lament also. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:31 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting rid of a car why is everyone so far away. Joe Mendyka wrote: Ok, folks, time to bet back to beating this dead horse down. I'm getting rid of my 82 300SD which needs, at the very least, a replaced key tumbler which is stuck. I'd be willing to let it go for $600 and am even flexible from there. I believe that, at the very least, one could part this car out and get a substantial return on their investment. When I could turn the key on it, it ran very well for me. I am sad to have to see it go, but we have grown our separate ways... c'est la vie. In any event, this car will also come with two pairs of snow tires. I am in Wallingford, Connecticut. This is 15-20 min north of New Haven and a half hour south of Hartford. You can email me privately at this address or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at 203.606.4730. I hope to hear from someone soon enough. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Corvette confusion
Early Corvette FI was built by Rochester and was a PITA. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Corvette confusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. I thought the 300HP engine had that silly Hillman fuel injection. I still can't believe that Tom MacCahill from Mechanics Illustrated claimed to go over 160mph in one. I think it was 168 for the coupe and 156 for the convertible. Thirty years later, if you tried going 150 in a Viper targa you'd destroy the roof. Hillman? You must be thinking of Hilborn. Which was not the GM system. The base '63 250HP had a two-barrel and the 300HP had a four-barrel. The FI engine had solid lifters and I don't recall the HP. It was too expensive and unnecessary for me. I doubt that I ever ran mine flat out and at the track it was not so hot with it's lousy Chevy II drum brakes. Damn good autocross car, though. On Michelins. I find those speeds suspicious because of what had to be high drag plus I'll guess a lot of front end lift what with no front spoiler. 168mph takes a lot of power. Best hiway mileage was 20mpg (four-speed, of course). $5000 then, $3 now. RLE/Seattle -- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
IIRC, the early 60s small Pontiac or Oldsmobile was the first to have the Iron Duke installed in them. These were small cars about the size of the Corvair. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harry M.) Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Couldn't be to far back since GM didn't have many 4 bangers in the 70's with the exception of the aluminum block 4 cyl in the Vega. The Citation came out in 79 with its sister car from Pontiac. It was Pontiac's idea to name it the iron duke in the early 80's Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GM Iron Duke 2.5 goes WAY back before the Citation. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vega Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? If my memory serves me right it was first used in GM's X bodies like the Citation Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Harry ?M.) wrote: what was that funny looking 4 wheel drive they had? I think the 6's were 200 cid. At least I think I remember seeing that on the Hornet a friend had. That was the eagle. Two engine options, 258 2bbl or a 2.5L four (depending on year, it was either the pontiac 151 or the AMC 150). In addition to the wagons (have two with sticks and a parts wagon), they made four door sedans, two door hatchbacks (called an SX4, had one with a five speed), and two door sedans (sometimes called a kammback, think 4wd gremlin). Absolutely unstoppable in the snow, and actually a fairly decent car to drive. My 84 with a dead fifth gear would still get 22-24 mpg on the freeway. It was my daily driver before the crown vic, which preceeded the flock of diesels. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] anybody ever seen anything like this?
The last picture shows a misaligned or partially open rear door. Not good. -Dave Walton On 9/11/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder what it woudl take to fix it http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-560-SEL-1991-MERCEDES-560-SEL_W0QQitemZ4574898800QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
Its a manual and Sunday morning it fired right up. Put an order in to Rusty online last night. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244kmi Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:27:38 -0500 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII rumor has it that Curt wrote: The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. If this is an automatic, the very first thing to do is to check neutral safety switch. Make sure you're not trying to start in in gear, then try both Park and Neutral, then wiggle the shifter lever in both positions. I would also turn on some light (interior, headlight - something you can see from the drivers seat) and then turn the key to start. If the light dims out, your battery is dead. If not, continue with the trouble shooting process. Also, the older starters sometimes need a good hammer thump on the solonoid. A rubber mallet (also known as a Dr. Booth lug wrench enhancer) works quite well. I've also use pipes, firewood, a monkey wrench, and a 2x6. *grin* Changing the starter is too much work to do if it isn't really necessary Philip, lazy mechanic __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
Kevin wrote: The later sunbirds along with the Simmeron and Cavalier were FWD, and those in the late 70's were rwd models. I know that they put v6's in the early Sunbirds, Monzas and Skyhawks, but I don't know what 4 cyl engine was available. Kevin The Cadillac Cimarron debuted as a 1982 model. It had a 112 c.u. engine in 82. By 1983 it was increased to a 2.0. By sometime around 87, the Cimmaron was upgraded to the 2.8 V6. The early Cimarrons were such miserable cars that I can't believe how long they lasted. The 1982 Cimarron was almost as bad a car as the diesels that Cadillac attempted in the late 70's and early 80's. My mother drove one of these lousy cars until it caught fire on the highway and later fireballed at the dealership. 90 300D 2.5 247K miles Donald H. Snook
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
The Cimmaron was nothing more than a dressed up CavalierThe standard shift models seemed to last well but as typical with US cars with a 4 cyl and auto tranny of that era they were destined for the junkyard long before European or Japanese models. Mike - Original Message - From: Donald Snook To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron Kevin wrote: The later sunbirds along with the Simmeron and Cavalier were FWD, and those in the late 70's were rwd models. I know that they put v6's in the early Sunbirds, Monzas and Skyhawks, but I don't know what 4 cyl engine was available. Kevin The Cadillac Cimarron debuted as a 1982 model. It had a 112 c.u. engine in 82. By 1983 it was increased to a 2.0. By sometime around 87, the Cimmaron was upgraded to the 2.8 V6. The early Cimarrons were such miserable cars that I can't believe how long they lasted. The 1982 Cimarron was almost as bad a car as the diesels that Cadillac attempted in the late 70's and early 80's. My mother drove one of these lousy cars until it caught fire on the highway and later fireballed at the dealership. 90 300D 2.5 247K miles Donald H. Snook -- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
i knew this guy back in new york who was old school and used to get a new cadillac every 2 years. he was so proud and would show everyone within earshot his new cadillac. He was a nice fella and we all went ooh and ah with every new car. one day, he showed up with his new caddy, only this one was a cimmaron. there was just stunned silence. At 10:23 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote: The Cimmaron was nothing more than a dressed up CavalierThe standard shift models seemed to last well but as typical with US cars with a 4 cyl and auto tranny of that era they were destined for the junkyard long before European or Japanese models. Mike - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Donald Snook To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron Kevin wrote: The later sunbirds along with the Simmeron and Cavalier were FWD, and those in the late 70's were rwd models. I know that they put v6's in the early Sunbirds, Monzas and Skyhawks, but I don't know what 4 cyl engine was available. Kevin The Cadillac Cimarron debuted as a 1982 model. It had a 112 c.u. engine in 82. By 1983 it was increased to a 2.0. By sometime around 87, the Cimmaron was upgraded to the 2.8 V6. The early Cimarrons were such miserable cars that I can't believe how long they lasted. The 1982 Cimarron was almost as bad a car as the diesels that Cadillac attempted in the late 70's and early 80's. My mother drove one of these lousy cars until it caught fire on the highway and later fireballed at the dealership. 90 300D 2.5 247K miles Donald H. Snook -- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
it is amazing to me how the world's biggest corporation that had every imaginable resource could have done this to itself. I was just a kid in the 70s, but it seems it was the age where the nation went mad. GM's market share is still eroding. At 09:50 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C5B7A0.FC5CB038 Kevin wrote: The later sunbirds along with the Simmeron and Cavalier were FWD, and those in the late 70's were rwd models. I know that they put v6's in the early Sunbirds, Monzas and Skyhawks, but I don't know what 4 cyl engine was available. Kevin The Cadillac Cimarron debuted as a 1982 model. It had a 112 c.u. engine in 82. By 1983 it was increased to a 2.0. By sometime around 87, the Cimmaron was upgraded to the 2.8 V6. The early Cimarrons were such miserable cars that I can't believe how long they lasted. The 1982 Cimarron was almost as bad a car as the diesels that Cadillac attempted in the late 70's and early 80's. My mother drove one of these lousy cars until it caught fire on the highway and later fireballed at the dealership. 90 300D 2.5 247K miles Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i knew this guy back in new york who was old school and used to get a new cadillac every 2 years. he was so proud and would show everyone within earshot his new cadillac. He was a nice fella and we all went ooh and ah with every new car. one day, he showed up with his new caddy, only this one was a cimmaron. there was just stunned silence. Wasn't that the car that Ross Perot had taken apart, to prove it *was* just a Cavalier? (After the GM press office tried to BS its way through people saying so.) Mac
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
Simple human folly on a grand scale to match GM's size: give the people crap for decades and you think you can get away with giving them more and more... until you finally push it past the limit of all logic. Look at them now: sellling Suzukis and Daewoos as Chevrolets (some may say: FINALLY), which is sad enough of itself, but they are still sinking nonetheless. GM stock is now junk bond status... who would have believed that, in the late 50s/early 60s??? Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is amazing to me how the world's biggest corporation that had every imaginable resource could have done this to itself. I was just a kid in the 70s, but it seems it was the age where the nation went mad. GM's market share is still eroding.
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
Its a manual and Sunday morning it fired right up. Put an order in to Rusty online last night. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244km Did Mercedes ever use a clutch pedal starter safety switch? Russ H.
Re: [MBZ] anybody ever seen anything like this?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't the 560SEL rerar susp. an SLS type or was that only an option and not all cars had it? Yes, it was SLS. But I (relatively) simple version thereof. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
not sure about ross, but it is obviously just a dressed up cavalier. to some large extent, the original seville was basically a dressed up Nova, but this was ridiculous At 10:40 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote: someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i knew this guy back in new york who was old school and used to get a new cadillac every 2 years. he was so proud and would show everyone within earshot his new cadillac. He was a nice fella and we all went ooh and ah with every new car. one day, he showed up with his new caddy, only this one was a cimmaron. there was just stunned silence. Wasn't that the car that Ross Perot had taken apart, to prove it *was* just a Cavalier? (After the GM press office tried to BS its way through people saying so.) Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mechanic Recommendation, Raleigh NC Area
D E Automotive. Very good. Very Nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernon Ritchey Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Mechanic Recommendation, Raleigh NC Area I'll be moving to Raleigh NC in a few weeks. More specifically, about 40 mi north of Raleigh near US1 between Wake Forest and Henderson. Does anyone have recommendations for a mechanic in that area for stuff beyond DYI? Thanks. Scott Ritchey Niceville, FL 1982 300 SD 225K miles 1979 300 TD 355K miles
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Some Chevrolet 2500 trucks DO have transmission temperature gauges. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:50 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] SOS - update rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! Philip, gota have guages ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! Christopher --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! Christopher --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Family Synergy, WAS: SOS - update
Chris typeth: Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. If He had a hand in it, great. If it was luck, then great. The fact remains we (and when I say we I mean MB owners)ROCK! We are a no pretensese family who will help any among us when it is needed. It's nice to know that help, no matter where in the country you might be, is just a post away. I'm sure this commonality is evident at events (i.e.,Okie Q) when everyone hits it off well. We are of one accord. It's nice to be part of a large, helpful, occasionally disfunctional family. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 139K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore!
[MBZ] Thank you everyone!
Dear List, Just a thank you to everyone who called with advice or ideas about my transmission leak in the 84 300D -- especially to Tom Savage, who spent three hours out of his Sunday morning helping me diagnose what exactly was wrong. Some friends came from Kansas City with a hitch and we towed the car through the night here to KC; right now it's at an independent Mercedes mechanic being looked at. His initial guess is that it's the front fuel pump (?) in the transmission which was going bad; the bushing was vibrating too much and it blew the seal. It doesn't look like a cheap fix. Thanks to everyone for all the help; this List truly is great. Thanks, Jim Vogel __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Iron Duke -- Cadillac Cimarron
People are going to be saying that very same thing about M-B, DC in a few years... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: JabbaHursty it is amazing to me how the world's biggest corporation that had every imaginable resource could have done this to itself. GM's market share is still eroding.
[MBZ] duplicating keys build card
Hi all, I ran all over town to find a place to dup my keys for my 72 250 and no luck. where does one go to have their keys duped? Also, I emailed MB USA for my build card and they sent me a bad copy of the record. There is no legend or anything as to what the fields mean. I can find my serial number and engine number but not much else. Is there a web page or something that would show how to figure it out? Thanks George
Re: [MBZ] Knowledge
Piece of cake. I aced it. On 9/9/05, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recall all the talk about hurricanes on TV and talk shows Now, test your knowledge against the science which some people still do not heed the call .recall their statements and compare http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3204/02-quiz-flash.html Bill ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last At 12:17 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] testing settings, ignore
What was my grade, or is it pass-fail? On 9/11/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You failed. On 9/11/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Thank you everyone!
I don't fully comprehend auto tranny's but Jim did not mean front FUEL pump, but the pump within the tranny...I guess some have only one but this one has two? front and rear? Info on the auto tranny pump: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission14.htm The whole article on how the auto tranny works is excellent. It amazes me they work as well as they do. First page features a cutaway of an SLK tranny. :-) Christopher --- Jim Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, Just a thank you to everyone who called with advice or ideas about my transmission leak in the 84 300D -- especially to Tom Savage, who spent three hours out of his Sunday morning helping me diagnose what exactly was wrong. Some friends came from Kansas City with a hitch and we towed the car through the night here to KC; right now it's at an independent Mercedes mechanic being looked at. His initial guess is that it's the front fuel pump (?) in the transmission which was going bad; the bushing was vibrating too much and it blew the seal. It doesn't look like a cheap fix. Thanks to everyone for all the help; this List truly is great. Thanks, Jim Vogel __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
No, no used ones, sorry. Christopher McCann wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! Christopher --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
Thats no joke. JabbaHursty wrote: it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last At 12:17 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
i refer all foreigners to kleb, yes At 02:03 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: Well, then, Kaleb should be put in charge of BIMBY's international division! Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last At 12:17 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
rumor has it that David wrote: Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while. I've only seen it in big trucks, that is class 8 Semi. Those often have differential temperature gauges for both diffs as well as transmission and engine oil temperature. Someday I'll get a proper gauge setup in my vehicles Philip, dreamin'
[MBZ] Trigger points
Seems like the FI points themselves didn't fail on my '75 450SEL, but I do remember replacing the wires that went to each set. Probably cleaned the points of pitting as well. The ignition points, on the other hand, burnt up on a daily basis, from crankcase fumes leaking past the distributor shaft seal. Wish I'd been able to figure that out on my own, but my techs kept it a week before getting back to me with the bad news-a $700 distributor back in about 1986. When a catalytic converter (I believe it was ONLY $1200 per side back then!) went while I was still mulling over the distributor shaft seal issue, so did the car. Replaced it with our first diesel 300TD wagon, with nary a problem after. Funny thing was that the 450SEL ran extremely smoothly for the one day or so that it took to foul the ignition points, and reached 20mpg on the road. Once it became clear how unnecessarily mechanical and unreliable the chain of events was to fire a cylinder, it wasn't much of a decision to dump it.
Re: [MBZ] contact cleaners WAS: SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
I believe that's spelled furriners... I've been off list for a while with hard drive problems. Turns out the contacts where my hard drive plugs into my laptop had gotten a bit crusty and were causing intermittent read/write errors (that took a while to diagnose). Went down to Radio Shack and got a DeoxIT ProGold Kit with cleaner and protectant. Worked like a champ. The thought occurs to me that this stuff might be really helpful on 20 year old contacts in the shaggin wagin. Anybody tried it? Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JabbaHursty Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:07 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale??? i refer all foreigners to kleb, yes At 02:03 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: Well, then, Kaleb should be put in charge of BIMBY's international division! Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last
Re: [MBZ] contact cleaners WAS: SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
I used to carry cans of CRC 226 CRC Contact Cleaner in my flight bag. We referred to it as avionics technician in a can. Really freaked the pilots out when I was able to fix the intercom system and radio receivers with a few sprays while we were flying along at 6,000 feet. On 9/12/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I. Went down to Radio Shack and got a DeoxIT ProGold Kit with cleaner and protectant. Worked like a champ. The thought occurs to me that this stuff might be really helpful on 20 year old contacts in the shaggin wagin. Anybody tried it? -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] speedometer wrong, trip meter correct...possible?
In my 76 240D, the speedometer reads 10% high, regardless of the speed (according to my GPS). The trip meter (didn't pay attention to the odometer) was accurate to .1 miles over a 12.2 mile commute. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Pictureblogger was speedometer wrong, trip meter correct...possible?
Hey Chris, Are you able to access your pictureblogger account? Thanks. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] The new G-Wagen
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 03:49:29PM -0700, Alex Chamberlain wrote: The styling doesn't bother me as much as the fact that it's now based on the same platform as the M-class, making it more of a soccer-mom/poser vehicle and no longer a serious offroader like the old G. Unitbody? Independent rear suspension? Bleah. FWIW, the current range rover has fully independent suspension, and is extremely capable offroad (if you're crazy enough to wheel a vehicle that expensive). independent suspension does not necessarily mean something cannot wheel (see the pinzgauer or hummer H1), just requires good engineering to make something that WILL actually wheel. The range rover uses air suspension to make the independent suspension behave like a straight axle when in 4L. H1s require a new style of driving as one almost always has at least one wheel in the air when going over obstacles (rocks on a trail, trees in a creek, miatas on the interstate...). K
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:35:03AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Because by the time the light comes on, whatever it was protecting is likely dead. Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while. Chevy HDs have them with the allison. Very easy to install aftermarket setups in everything else (like the powerchoke when I get around to it).o K
Re: [MBZ] OT Pictureblogger was speedometer wrong, trip meter correct...possible?
Yes, I can click the link and I can log in, although the pics are getting out of date and I have a bunch of nice ones still to add. Christopher --- Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chris, Are you able to access your pictureblogger account? Thanks. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] 300SDL HAVAC Mystery
90 degrees out today, first time in weeks.
A/C decided to go into full convention cook mode.
Mono-Valve say you. Could be but I changed it about 3 months ago.
Also, when I pushed the center button, I got A/C.
I'm thinking the push button control is at fault.
Is it probable that I remove the offending control and re solder a
bunch of cold joints, seems that I've heard that discussed in the
past.
Or, do I send Rusty enough funds for his kids to have another keg
party on me?
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 09:30:34PM -0400, Mike Canfield wrote: Usually the only way to get the V8 with a 4 speed was in the X package for the gremlin and in the early SC Hornets. Mike X package was more of a trim option than anything. There was a gap after the demise of the javelin where the t-10 wasn't used anymore, and the SR4 hadn't been acquired from Borg Warner yet. The four speeds in the gap were a three speed with laycock overdrive (think gear vendors overdrive). SC hornets were only around for one year (71?), 360v8, four barrel, and either four speed or automatic. They made them in the Kammback(very short), SX4(longer but still short), Coupe(a bit longer yet), Sedan( even longer) and finally the Eagle wagon(same wheelbase a fullsize jeep Cherokee/Wagonneer). Sedan/wagon were the same wheel base, and the kammback/sx4 were the same wheelbase. Those were the only four eagles offered. The full size wagoneer was a smidge longer in wheelbase - half a foot I think. I could go measure, I have a 77 cherokee parked next to an 84 eagle wagon. ] They did have some fairly decent cars though, I remember the Matador which if ] I'm not mistaken was used as a police cruiser Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. } Don't recall the iron duke 151 being used in any AMC? 80-83 CJs, 80-83 eagles, 80-83 spirits. The four banger used in 78-79 was a VW/audi/porsche engine, 121 ci, actually the engine used in the 924 (not renault). Way underpowered for a spirit/concord/etc. ] Sure seems like I'm not going to get by with any AMC slip-ups in this ] crowd. Not when people around here have a good chunk of the sales literature, parts books, and a few surviving members in the fleet :) K
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Kevin wrote: Or a transmission temperature guage! Chevy HDs have them with the allison. Very easy to install aftermarket setups in everything else (like the powerchoke when I get around to it). I believe Ford had a gauge option in the 7.3 PSD with four speed. Sort of an on/off gauge like the engine temp of the same vintage. It had two readings, OK and please deposit $3,000. Supposedly the idiot lights with needles result in fewer service calls than real gauges, some owners would bring their truck in under warranty if a temp gauge started reading higher than when new, so Ford designed a gauge that always read the same unless there was a real failure.
[MBZ] Rust and speed
Any German car built before 1980 was a rust nightmare, I've had four or so of them and the all have or had rust problems Porsche bodies were 100% zinc coated steel by 1976. Before that they would be rusted out before the last payment was made. The iconic 356 was worse. During the restoration of my friend SJB's '56 Speedster, replacing the rusted sections cost 13 grand. I guess my point is that the M100 was known as quite an engine in it's day, and like any Benz engine of the period, would run for hours on end at more or less top speed. More so than today, anyway, since back then there was much less traffic on the Autobahn and full speed running was much easier. The Chevy engines were known in Germany as cheap horsepower with the expectation they wouldn't hold up as well -- too lightly built. The key to running all day at full throttle (a slight exaggeration) is either low stress (36HP VW?) or lots of oil in the engine. Such as the 6.3 and 911's dry sumps. The way I heard it was that with 4 quarts or so in the Chevy engines, they could not tolerate long periods at high power and rpm. GIs stationed in Germany found that out in short order when attempting to keep up on the autobahn in their Corvettes. Musta been officers because no enlisted man could afford to feed an american V8. RLE/Seattle
[MBZ] Cimarron
,The Cadillac Cimarron debuted as a 1982 model. It had a 112 c.u. engine in 82. By 1983 it was increased to a 2.0. By sometime around 87, the Cimmaron was upgraded to the 2.8 V6. Lordy, what an awful car. Car Driver magazine in a road test article said that GM should send a letter of apology to each purchaser. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
Kevin wrote: Matadors and Ambassadors were used for police vehicles. IIRC, Adam-12 was a matador. There wasn't a police package like Ford, but there was a certified speedo, and police cars usually got 401s, front and rear sways, tranny coolers, and bigger brakes. The engine was identical to civilian except the oil pan had baffles. Alabama used to use javelins as pursuit vehicles. I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane?
Re: [MBZ] OT - BPL, was Navy WTF?
On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 01:27:46PM -0500, OK Don wrote: Here's the test - all the possible questions. The actual test is a subset of these, and I think passing is 70%. Not very hard to do at all -- http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/El2-2000.txt The practice test here are pretty good. http://www.qrz.com/testing.html Doris skimmed the book, attended a few classes with me out of boredom, took the test with me, and only missed one question. There is an on-line course at http://www.arrl.org/cce/courses.html#ec010 and a book at http://tinyurl.com/7stdp Anyone else looking at getting their ticket check out www.aa9pw.com. There is a test generator for all FOUR elements (yes, including morse). Very helpful stuff. K (--... ...-- -.. . -.- --. - -- -- -)
Re: [MBZ] Rust and speed
I can second that. I traded a rust bucket 356B with a VW engine for a Sunbeam Alpine once. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The iconic 356 was worse. During the restoration of my friend SJB's '56 Speedster, replacing the rusted sections cost 13 grand.
Re: [MBZ] OT - BPL, was Navy WTF?
I had to learn morse in flight training. I can remember two letters -- S and O -- but forget which is which. ... Good think you don't need Morse now for the ham license. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Cimarron
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lordy, what an awful car. Car Driver magazine in a road test article said that GM should send a letter of apology to each purchaser. Well, assuming they did, possibly they could forward the wording to Mercedes for the early M-Class, or BMW for its current 7- and 8-series wunderkinder. Their customers might appreciate it. Mac
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:12:12PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I believe Ford had a gauge option in the 7.3 PSD with four speed. Sort of an on/off gauge like the engine temp of the same vintage. It had two readings, OK and please deposit $3,000. Supposedly the idiot lights with needles result in fewer service calls than real gauges, some owners would bring their truck in under warranty if a temp gauge started reading higher than when new, so Ford designed a gauge that always read the same unless there was a real failure. Do I know THAT too well. They actually redesigned the oil pressure sender to only send out two values (=6 psi or 6 psi), then used a resistor across the back of the gauge to make it so it wouldn't 'peg' with 7psi. Anyone with a Ford with one of these gauges (usually 88-97) that wants to fix this, send me a note offlist and I'll dig it up. K
Re: [MBZ] OT Vega
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:19:49PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I thought a Matador was a Hornet coupe. In Man with a Golden Gun, didn't Bond and the redneck sheriff chase Scaramanga and Tattoo in a Hornet, with Scaramanga driving a Matador which converted into an airplane? In that movie, the hornet was the red car, and the converted plane car was a matador coupe (the 74-78 body style). The matador coupe is MUCH larger than a hornet. The police cars were the sedan version of the matador (they don't look similar until you remove the sheet metal). Memory serving me, there was fairly heavy use of a couple of mercedes sedans (114/115?) in that movie as well, just not in the chase scenes. K
[MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
I saw something amazing over the weekend. I found a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Diesel two door. It was in miraculous shape. It had 43,000 miles. It was white with a maroon interior. This big sucker had the converted 5.7 diesel engine. They were absolutely horrible cars. It was a gasoline engine block with all the diesel works mounted on. I had three different Olds 98's, I really liked them. When I was a Service Manager at an Olds/Honda dealership, one of the Mechanics had one of these cars. He had 300-400,000 miles on it. He also had purchased 6-7 injector pumps from some connection that he had. The IP's were scavenged from cars that had to be junked because pistons cracked or blocks cracked. He was a real whiz at replacing the injector pumps. He never had lower end engine problems. He replaced the intake gasket every year I think and added a quart of transmission to the tank every other fill up and only got diesel at the truck stop. Strange guy- strange car. Anyway, it was a real sight to see this historic car. I almost bought it, just to say I had one. Maybe I'll find the ever illusive 1984 Cadillac Seville Diesel (I think Car and Driver or some car magazine named it the worst car of all time). Donald H. Snook
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
ROTFLMAO! Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: Donald Snook (I think Car and Driver or some car magazine named it the worst car of all time).
[MBZ] Valve Tappet (aka Cam Follower) okay?
I'm continuing to reassemble my S350 engine (603.971), and have noticed that 3 of the Valve Tappets have no springeyness in the underside rod that contacts the valve stem. All the others do. Is this an indication that they need replaced? Thanks -Dave Walton
[MBZ] Swapping Transmissions
Can the transmission from a 1982 300SD be swapped into a 1982 300D? Thanx! Joe Mendyka Wallingford, CT
Re: [MBZ] speedometer wrong, trip meter correct...possible?
At some time fairly close to Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:40 -0700 (PDT), rumor has it that Christopher wrote: In my 76 240D, the speedometer reads 10% high, regardless of the speed (according to my GPS). The trip meter (didn't pay attention to the odometer) was accurate to .1 miles over a 12.2 mile commute. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? The speedometer uses a drum attached to the needle and a magnet that is spun via cable by the transmission. It should be possible to alter the response of the needle by making changes to the drum-to-rotatingmagnet gap. I just haven't figured out _how_!! Yet Philip, with a instrument pod open on the workbench.
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
how much did they want for it? Donald Snook wrote: I saw something amazing over the weekend. I found a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Diesel two door. It was in miraculous shape. It had 43,000 miles. It was white with a maroon interior. This big sucker had the converted 5.7 diesel engine. They were absolutely horrible cars. It was a gasoline engine block with all the diesel works mounted on. I had three different Olds 98’s, I really liked them. When I was a Service Manager at an Olds/Honda dealership, one of the Mechanics had one of these cars. He had 300-400,000 miles on it. He also had purchased 6-7 injector pumps from some connection that he had. The IP’s were scavenged from cars that had to be junked because pistons cracked or blocks cracked. He was a real whiz at replacing the injector pumps. He never had lower end engine problems. He replaced the intake gasket every year I think and added a quart of transmission to the tank every other fill up and only got diesel at the truck stop. Strange guy- strange car. Anyway, it was a real sight to see this historic car. I almost bought it, just to say I had one. Maybe I’ll find the ever illusive 1984 Cadillac Seville Diesel (I think Car and Driver or some car magazine named it the worst car of all time). Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Swapping Transmissions
yep, sure can. You just have to swap the rear tail sections because the 123 has a cable driven speedo and 126 is electrical. Not very had to do especially with them out of the car. Joe Mendyka wrote: Can the transmission from a 1982 300SD be swapped into a 1982 300D? Thanx! Joe Mendyka Wallingford, CT ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] speedometer wrong, trip meter correct...possible?
SO, it's possible that that trip meter (and probably odometer) are correct and the speedometer wrong? I was being told that if the speedo was off 10%, then the trip meter/odo MUST be off 10% too. It seems that that is not necessarily the case...please clarify a little more. I'm not interested in fixing the speedo as the car came with a new intrument cluster in the trunk, which I haven't swapped out yet...just wondering if it IS possible that the current trip/odo could be correct while speedo is off. Want to calculate mpg today. Thanks, Christopher --- Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some time fairly close to Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:40 -0700 (PDT), rumor has it that Christopher wrote: In my 76 240D, the speedometer reads 10% high, regardless of the speed (according to my GPS). The trip meter (didn't pay attention to the odometer) was accurate to .1 miles over a 12.2 mile commute. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? The speedometer uses a drum attached to the needle and a magnet that is spun via cable by the transmission. It should be possible to alter the response of the needle by making changes to the drum-to-rotatingmagnet gap. I just haven't figured out _how_!! Yet Philip, with a instrument pod open on the workbench. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] What to drive...
And Phil Smart makes Mrs. Smart drive a 1990 190E. She has only 6k on the clock On Saturday, September 10, 2005, at 08:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every day, an agonizing decision. Seems that Jimmy Barrier, owner of Barrier MB in Bellevue WA (not to mention Barrier Porsche, Barrier Volvo, Barrier Audi and so on) is now making the four mile commute from Hunt's Point to the store each day in his new SLR. The Maybach 57 is probably just sitting in the garage now. RLE/Seattle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Swapping Transmissions
I think the tail ends on the transmissions will need to be changed. The SD if it is like mine uses electronic sensor on Speedometer while the 300D uses a cable. Also the flex joints are different sizes so tail shaft has to be changed. Regards, Trampas Stern _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Mendyka Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Swapping Transmissions Can the transmission from a 1982 300SD be swapped into a 1982 300D? Thanx! Joe Mendyka Wallingford, CT
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
I heard that the H block code on those diesels were the blocks that had all the problems fix, but a little late to save the GM diesel program. Of course the 6.2 and other GM diesels did not help things. Regards, Trampas Stern _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels I saw something amazing over the weekend. I found a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Diesel two door. It was in miraculous shape. It had 43,000 miles. It was white with a maroon interior. This big sucker had the converted 5.7 diesel engine. They were absolutely horrible cars. It was a gasoline engine block with all the diesel works mounted on. I had three different Olds 98's, I really liked them. When I was a Service Manager at an Olds/Honda dealership, one of the Mechanics had one of these cars. He had 300-400,000 miles on it. He also had purchased 6-7 injector pumps from some connection that he had. The IP's were scavenged from cars that had to be junked because pistons cracked or blocks cracked. He was a real whiz at replacing the injector pumps. He never had lower end engine problems. He replaced the intake gasket every year I think and added a quart of transmission to the tank every other fill up and only got diesel at the truck stop. Strange guy- strange car. Anyway, it was a real sight to see this historic car. I almost bought it, just to say I had one. Maybe I'll find the ever illusive 1984 Cadillac Seville Diesel (I think Car and Driver or some car magazine named it the worst car of all time). Donald H. Snook
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
I think that Kaleb has that response programmed under one of the F keys on his keyboard. LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how much did they want for it? Donald Snook wrote: I saw something amazing over the weekend. I found a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Diesel two door. It was in miraculous shape. It had 43,000 miles. It was white with a maroon interior.
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
I have never had a problem with a 6.2, or a 6.5. Trampas wrote: I heard that the “H” block code on those diesels were the blocks that had all the problems fix, but a little late to save the GM diesel program. Of course the 6.2 and other GM diesels did not help things. Regards, Trampas Stern From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels I saw something amazing over the weekend. I found a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Diesel two door. It was in miraculous shape. It had 43,000 miles. It was white with a maroon interior. This big sucker had the converted 5.7 diesel engine. They were absolutely horrible cars. It was a gasoline engine block with all the diesel works mounted on. I had three different Olds 98’s, I really liked them. When I was a Service Manager at an Olds/Honda dealership, one of the Mechanics had one of these cars. He had 300-400,000 miles on it. He also had purchased 6-7 injector pumps from some connection that he had. The IP’s were scavenged from cars that had to be junked because pistons cracked or blocks cracked. He was a real whiz at replacing the injector pumps. He never had lower end engine problems. He replaced the intake gasket every year I think and added a quart of transmission to the tank every other fill up and only got diesel at the truck stop. Strange guy- strange car. Anyway, it was a real sight to see this historic car. I almost bought it, just to say I had one. Maybe I’ll find the ever illusive 1984 Cadillac Seville Diesel (I think Car and Driver or some car magazine named it the worst car of all time). Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL HAVAC Mystery
Does it cool on automatic if the wheel is to max cold? If so the internal
temp sensor is bad, thus it thinks the car is cold and will turn on heat.
When wheel is turn to max cold the control unit ignores internal temp
sensor.
Regards,
Trampas Stern
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL HAVAC Mystery
90 degrees out today, first time in weeks.
A/C decided to go into full convention cook mode.
Mono-Valve say you. Could be but I changed it about 3 months ago.
Also, when I pushed the center button, I got A/C.
I'm thinking the push button control is at fault.
Is it probable that I remove the offending control and re solder a
bunch of cold joints, seems that I've heard that discussed in the
past.
Or, do I send Rusty enough funds for his kids to have another keg
party on me?
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
___
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels
I have know a lot of people to have IP problems with 6.2. Also most people complain that it is under powered. But from the ones I have seen they are not as bad as a 240. Regards, Trampas Stern -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:44 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels I have never had a problem with a 6.2, or a 6.5. Trampas wrote: I heard that the H block code on those diesels were the blocks that had all the problems fix, but a little late to save the GM diesel program. Of course the 6.2 and other GM diesels did not help things. Regards, Trampas Stern From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of lousy GM Cars and getting back on Diesels I saw something amazing over the weekend. I found a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Diesel two door. It was in miraculous shape. It had 43,000 miles. It was white with a maroon interior. This big sucker had the converted 5.7 diesel engine. They were absolutely horrible cars. It was a gasoline engine block with all the diesel works mounted on. I had three different Olds 98's, I really liked them. When I was a Service Manager at an Olds/Honda dealership, one of the Mechanics had one of these cars. He had 300-400,000 miles on it. He also had purchased 6-7 injector pumps from some connection that he had. The IP's were scavenged from cars that had to be junked because pistons cracked or blocks cracked. He was a real whiz at replacing the injector pumps. He never had lower end engine problems. He replaced the intake gasket every year I think and added a quart of transmission to the tank every other fill up and only got diesel at the truck stop. Strange guy- strange car. Anyway, it was a real sight to see this historic car. I almost bought it, just to say I had one. Maybe I'll find the ever illusive 1984 Cadillac Seville Diesel (I think Car and Driver or some car magazine named it the worst car of all time). Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
