[MBZ] A couple general questions about 190D
Two quickies regarding our 87 190D: Is the passenger door supposed to not be able to unlock from the outside? Nothing at all happens when key is turned. How much deflection should the serp. belt have? We had it replaced with the alternator and various tensioner equip. It seems, to me, looser than it should be. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A couple general questions about 190D
If a door has a keyhole, then it should both lock and unlock via that door. If the OM601 engine is anything like my OM603, then you shouldn't have much deflection at all in your serpentine belt. I'd look to the tensioner pivot to see if it's sitting at an angle to the timing chain cover. On Jan 16, 2008 12:24 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two quickies regarding our 87 190D: Is the passenger door supposed to not be able to unlock from the outside? Nothing at all happens when key is turned. How much deflection should the serp. belt have? We had it replaced with the alternator and various tensioner equip. It seems, to me, looser than it should be. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
Wow, I haven't studied the various classic Benz models, but after viewing the photos, this may be my favorite. It works for me too! I know the mid/late 60s were a great time for American car styling. And aircraft styling - think Blackbird. Brian On Jan 15, 2008 7:44 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree this is probably my all time favorite chassis, as far as looks go. The vertical headlights, the prominent grille, it all just works Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A car similar to this one is the car that made me want to own a Mercedes. In 1984, my mother was trading in her 1981 Chevy Chevette and we were looking at used cars. I was 12 at the time, and was immeadiately drawn to this beautiful Mercedes. It was a 1969 280S in forest green and it was VERY nice. It was a real beauty. Someone had traded it in. I still remember they said it was $6900. I told my mom, that we just had to test drive it. She said no because we could not afford it. (I knew we didn't have a lot of money, but only recently have I figured out we were quite poor) We were looking at cars for $2500 and that would be financed. I still remember that car. We bought an 82 Olds Omega -- which was cheap transportation and all we could afford. I remember thinking that day, that one day I would get a Mercedes. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=17018562224 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
I think this was the model that appeared in Rocky IV - driven by the Russians who escorted Rocky. Brian On Jan 14, 2008 8:23 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170185622242 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
Yes, me too. The year was 1968 and a MB dealer had just opened in the small city where I was going to college. My then girlfriend and I went down to the dealers and there they were-three of them-it was lust at first sight. Right then I vowed to have an MB-I never forgot that lust/love. (Girlfriend is long gone.) I still would like a W108. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car A car similar to this one is the car that made me want to own a Mercedes. In 1984, my mother was trading in her 1981 Chevy Chevette and we were looking at used cars. I was 12 at the time, and was immeadiately drawn to this beautiful Mercedes. It was a 1969 280S in forest green and it was VERY nice. It was a real beauty. Someone had traded it in. I still remember they said it was $6900. I told my mom, that we just had to test drive it. She said no because we could not afford it. (I knew we didn't have a lot of money, but only recently have I figured out we were quite poor) We were looking at cars for $2500 and that would be financed. I still remember that car. We bought an 82 Olds Omega -- which was cheap transportation and all we could afford. I remember thinking that day, that one day I would get a Mercedes. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=17018562224 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front Wheel Bearings
Hi Robert, Not sure what container Rusty sells - last time I did my bearings I bought grease at the dealer - the tube held enough to do 2 wheels, so I just had to fold the tube in half and ended up with 1/2 grease in each half (approx) - it takes a little experimenting t o find the halfway point - but it's semi-precise. The alternative is to find an inexpensive scale to meaure the grams of grease - which I have not looked into. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Front Wheel Bearings So.if I buy the stuff to do the front wheel bearings from Rusty will the grease come pre-measured out for me? I can remember Marshall saying how important it is to measure the grease dead-nuts on. Bob R '77 300D 188k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
It's a typical 280S W108 chassis - carburated version of the 280SE/SEL. I owned one for many years - it was my 1st MB. Big 6 cylinder that cruised effortlessly at 80 all day long - that was it;s sweet spot - the suspension got firm and felt as smooth as glass - the engine was running at the rpm it seemed to like - I guess it was into the peak hp or peak torque rpm. It was a typical S Class sedan - MB offered more powerful versions - like the 300SE/SEL 6.3 which was a true hot rod but the 280S/SE/SEL was the S Class for the masses. Loved it. My only complaint was the carbs (dual) which never seemed right altho I usually for upper teens/low 20s gas mileage. I probably would have disliked the FI even more since I knew nothing about FI at the time. The price for this one is not bad - but I wouldn;t pay more that $2500 for a very nice one. Also, this one doesn;t seem to have the typical rust around the headlight buckets but the angle of the front bumper indicates rust on the bumper supports - which can be pretty expensive to repair. The 6 is more economical to operate and maintain that the 4.5 V8 common to the 72-73 models. But nothing compares to a diesel for simplicity and economy. Let ,me know if anyone gets serious about this car and Ill look closer at the photos. Now that I think about it, I'd like to have one of these if I had the space. Take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car I think this was the model that appeared in Rocky IV - driven by the Russians who escorted Rocky. Brian On Jan 14, 2008 8:23 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170185622242 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front Wheel Bearings
LarryT wrote: The alternative is to find an inexpensive scale to meaure the grams of grease - which I have not looked into. I think my old (so old it's greenish gray, not tan) triple beam Ohaus was about $20 plus shipping on eBay several years ago. I think my two pan tan Ohaus was also less than $40 delivered. For measuring grease, any $5 food scale or $15 electronic postal scale should be plenty accurate enough. Now I'm trying to remember what Dr Booth said. Was it 15g per wheel bearing, and 15g stuffed in the caps, used up a 45g tube? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 seat switch
The seat switches in my 190D were bad and worked only occasionally when I got the car. I don't think you can get enough contact cleaner in there to make much difference, I couldn't anyway. Once you take one apart you'll know why. I replaced both of mine with units from Rusty. A hint: Don't take the switch apart in the car... Little balls and tabs and springs go everywhere. The old advice to take it apart in a plastic bag is spot on. -Curt Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:15:30 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] W124 seat switch To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The electric seat control on the door of my 300D 2.5t only works in some positions-this is recent, although it seemed to be flakey on the forward position when I got the car. Had stopped altogether and then I sprayed dome electrical contact cleaner in it today to give it the Cathey treatment. Seemed to help a bit, but not sure it didn't discolor the door panel a bit. Can I remove this switch by just pulling off the plastic handle? Or other disassembly required? (I am used to the 240D's with the $16.75 plastic replacement handle for the manual seat control. Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
Now *here's* a unique car/color combination. There's some errors in the description - like claiming ABS on a 1972 model - but the color is a real eye-catcher. (Yuck) 72 280SE 4.5 ebay item 250204501101 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car I think this was the model that appeared in Rocky IV - driven by the Russians who escorted Rocky. Brian On Jan 14, 2008 8:23 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170185622242 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front Wheel Bearings
Can't recall what the good Dr said, but it;s spelled out in the manual -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front Wheel Bearings LarryT wrote: The alternative is to find an inexpensive scale to meaure the grams of grease - which I have not looked into. I think my old (so old it's greenish gray, not tan) triple beam Ohaus was about $20 plus shipping on eBay several years ago. I think my two pan tan Ohaus was also less than $40 delivered. For measuring grease, any $5 food scale or $15 electronic postal scale should be plenty accurate enough. Now I'm trying to remember what Dr Booth said. Was it 15g per wheel bearing, and 15g stuffed in the caps, used up a 45g tube? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 1/16/2008 9:01 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A couple general questions about 190D
Two quickies regarding our 87 190D: Is the passenger door supposed to not be able to unlock from the outside? Nothing at all happens when key is turned. Then it's broken! I bet some exploratory surgery would show you why in a minute. (Start the clock after the door panel is off, natch.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front Wheel Bearings
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:01:08 -0500 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall what the good Dr said, but it;s spelled out in the manual Yup, that's where I looked. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
Hey Gang, I want to get a compressor, Dad bought on at Sears, its a 1hp 3gal (I think). Its a pretty good compressor and has oil lube which should keep it alive for awhile. For mine I'd like something slightly bigger, that one only makes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interestingly the next size up is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but its an oilless machine. They also make the claim both that an oil compressor is quieter and an oilless compressor is quieter... Dang marketing droids. Anyway I can't afford more than about $250. I'd like to run an impact wrench, maybe a spot blaster and a couple other fairly low air tools. I'm not going to paint cars or sandblast frames... Suggestions? -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
I have a oil-less from Sears and it is LOUD. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Gang, I want to get a compressor, Dad bought on at Sears, its a 1hp 3gal (I think). Its a pretty good compressor and has oil lube which should keep it alive for awhile. For mine I'd like something slightly bigger, that one only makes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interestingly the next size up is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but its an oilless machine. They also make the claim both that an oil compressor is quieter and an oilless compressor is quieter... Dang marketing droids. Anyway I can't afford more than about $250. I'd like to run an impact wrench, maybe a spot blaster and a couple other fairly low air tools. I'm not going to paint cars or sandblast frames... Suggestions? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
Curt Raymond wrote: Anyway I can't afford more than about $250. I'd like to run an impact wrench, maybe a spot blaster and a couple other fairly low air tools. Are you in a hurry? 15 years ago I bought a low hour (looked like new) 2hp Sanborn from an ad in the local paper for $175. Took me 2-3 months to find it. Fortunately, it was the only one I spent time looking at. Only time I want more is when I'm using a die grinder. Duty cycle on that grinder is like 20-30% on my little compressor. A friend bought a Campbell Hausfeld 2hp airless. Very noisy, but that might be because the one of the 'connecting rods' broke. It was a twin cylinder opposed unit, the pistons and connecting rods were cast in one piece from aluminum or pot metal. The drive was very crude. I don't remember the specifics, but I think there was an offset peg on the motor shaft that rode in a slot in the center of the piston assembly to kick the pistons back and forth. If that's any indication of oilless compressor construction, stay far away. Generally, the bigger a compressor is, the slower and quieter it seems to be. (not to mention more expensive) A friend of mine owns a monument company, they carve the lettering in the marble with a sandblaster. When he needed a new compressor, he bought a truck mounted rotary screw compressor from a electric company auction, and then sold the truck for close to what he paid for it after he took the compressor off it. Output to noise ratio is quite good on that compressor, but I doubt you need 50+ CFM for anything you do. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
This looks good. I can't vouch for durability, but I doubt you'll do much better for $150. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94667 Here's a little less output ([EMAIL PROTECTED] vs 4.9) but the larger tank might make up for it. Probably more durable than the one above: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93351 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
On Jan 16, 2008 9:07 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks good. I can't vouch for durability, but I doubt you'll do much better for $150. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94667 I just bought the 220V version of that one at my local store for $149 plus $30 for the three-year no-questions-asked replacement guarantee. Seemed like about the best deal I could find. It's not too loud---although I plan to build it into its own little closet in my new shop with a couple of layers of plywood to make it even quieter---and doesn't even run that often with the big tank unless you are really going crazy with the air wrench. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car Fax Request
Is their anyone that could run a carfax report. My daughter is looking at a used Saab Station wagon in Ohio. The VIN number is YS3ED55E913041845. Hope someone can help me out. Regards, Robert Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 85 300CD 81 Rabbit Diesel Pickup ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in
Got this from another list and wanted to pass this along to you all just in case someone might be interested. I don't know anything about the guy or the cars, heck I don't even know where the 818 area code is. I do question the 50mpg statement on the Ranger. Anyone ever had one or know if this is even close? Manfred I still have the following diesel cars for sale 1984 tempo 1985 tempo 1986 tempo all three for $1000 1986 190D 5 speed $1500 1987 190D auto turbo $1200 1987 190D auto turbo $700 all three for $3000 1986 Ford Diesel Ranger $5600 - perfect truck 50mpg+ rob stehlin 818-674-7947 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in
1986 Ranger would be a rebadged Mazda, great truck but frames rust in half! Pete -- Original message -- From: MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got this from another list and wanted to pass this along to you all just in case someone might be interested. I don't know anything about the guy or the cars, heck I don't even know where the 818 area code is. I do question the 50mpg statement on the Ranger. Anyone ever had one or know if this is even close? Manfred I still have the following diesel cars for sale 1984 tempo 1985 tempo 1986 tempo all three for $1000 1986 190D 5 speed $1500 1987 190D auto turbo $1200 1987 190D auto turbo $700 all three for $3000 1986 Ford Diesel Ranger $5600 - perfect truck 50mpg+ rob stehlin 818-674-7947 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in
MG wrote: I do question the 50mpg statement on the Ranger. Anyone ever had one or know if this is even close? The phone number appears to belong to a cell phone in Reseda CA. http://www.thedirectory.org/pref/search/818.htm 50mpg would be a good score for a VW Rabbit. I think a friend of mine was claiming up to 50 hwy at 55 or 60mph in a diesel 5ap Tempo. Considering the aero advantages a Tempo has over a Ranger, I would say that the Ranger isn't going to hit 50mpg at any speed over 40mph. mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in
MG wrote: Got this from another list and wanted to pass this along to you all just in case someone might be interested. I don't know anything about the guy or the cars, heck I don't even know where the 818 area code is. Googling his phone number turned up some links. The vehicles are listed in FL craigslists, but the guy behind the number is in CA. He seems to have come down in his prices lately. http://miami.craigslist.org/car/534165819.html http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/517879377.html http://www.cashdoctor.com/go?SERVICE=PARTNERTG_KE_REFERRAL=STEHLIN0001 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
I know next to nothing about those rigs, but I think they're super cool. If you do end up grabbing it, let me know, 'cause I'd love a chance to check one out. On Jan 16, 2008 11:25 AM, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Those Top Gear guys are at it again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZYNenW-Msfeature=related I can't keep this one to myself. At the end of part 2 I have tears in my eyes... I do like the look of the Dolomite though. Did they ever bring those to the US? Might make a cool lawn ornament. -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in
Thank you all for the info. If it's a cellphone then I can see that he could be in Florida and have a California area code. Maybe on a vacation? Or has a winter house? I have a friend who had a Mazda diesel years ago and got about 38mpg out of it. My oldest daughter had a VW diesel pickup and got about 40mpg out of that. Of course that could be my fault as I taught her how to drive and I tend to get lower then normal mileage. I do like to have fun. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
Thats the kind of recommendation I'd look for on a $150 compressor... Hmm, now I need the wife to not pay attention for a weekend so I can sneak down to RI and snag one. Maybe get a chance to check out Dwight's car at the same time. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:15:35 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Jan 16, 2008 9:07 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks good. I can't vouch for durability, but I doubt you'll do much better for $150. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94667 I just bought the 220V version of that one at my local store for $149 plus $30 for the three-year no-questions-asked replacement guarantee. Seemed like about the best deal I could find. It's not too loud---although I plan to build it into its own little closet in my new shop with a couple of layers of plywood to make it even quieter---and doesn't even run that often with the big tank unless you are really going crazy with the air wrench. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in
818 is LA. Reeks of scam if you ask me. $1200 '87 190D turbo? Crazy... I'd like to have a diesel Tempo. My first car was an '84 Tempo 2.4l 4spd which was a surprisingly fun little beast for being a cheap piece of crap. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:23:20 -0500 From: MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Got this from another list and wanted to pass this along to you all just in case someone might be interested. I don't know anything about the guy or the cars, heck I don't even know where the 818 area code is. I do question the 50mpg statement on the Ranger. Anyone ever had one or know if this is even close? Manfred I still have the following diesel cars for sale 1984 tempo 1985 tempo 1986 tempo all three for $1000 1986 190D 5 speed $1500 1987 190D auto turbo $1200 1987 190D auto turbo $700 all three for $3000 1986 Ford Diesel Ranger $5600 - perfect truck 50mpg+ rob stehlin 818-674-7947 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
Zach,, Are you talking about a DS19, DS21, or something else? Full wagon, I assume? I believe they were named safari wagons? Well, they are uncommon especially here in the States. Problem areas include, but are not limited to: Hydraulic system for the suspension which also feed the brakes and power steering. Not a bad system by design, but they often suffered at the hands of unskilled technicians. Electrical systems. Think early lucas, but at least ground is the correct polarity. Rust, rust, and more rust! Think w114 coupe daily driven in the north-east. If it has a semi-automatic gearbox, think MB hydrak! Ugh! Seriously, they are neat cars, drive and ride like nothing else. The 4 cylinder is a simple motor. Parts are not too hard to come across once you have an in with a few suppliers. Beware of inferior aftermarket quality parts. There are times when you will need to ship bits in from overseas though. Napa carries little more than oil filters for these cars! As for price, they run the gamut. I saw a clean DS21 wagon go on EBay about two years ago for under $4k, low mileage, almost no rust, stored indoors for a few years. Last comment on them, I enjoy driving a Citroen more than I enjoy working on it. Mathieu 1972 Citroen SM, 16k original miles, for sale on consignment www.oldworldauto.com On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Zach wrote: Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
Mathieu J. Cama wrote: 1972 Citroen SM, 16k original miles, for sale on consignment www.oldworldauto.com You had my (high) interest until I got to the automatic gearbox. The SM was my dream car when I was ten years old. Actually I wouldn't mind having all three of that doctor's cars. I would mind having to pay for them, unfortunately. All the cars I've bought in my life don't add up to $20k. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
Pretty maybe, but I'd RUN away, unless you want to spend thousands putting Weber carbs on it. You can buy a very nice 280SE for the same money. These have dual Zeniths and they are notorious for never running right after they get a few years on them. At 11:16 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:23:53 -0500 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170185622242 Yes, indeed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a pretty car
I actually have a set of Webers (JAM Engineering kit) that are languishing on my '66 230, which I can't get to start anymore and have not had time to figure out. Have been tempted to send it to the boneyard more than once but just can't bear to do it. Maybe I'll get to it this summer Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty maybe, but I'd RUN away, unless you want to spend thousands putting Weber carbs on it. You can buy a very nice 280SE for the same money. These have dual Zeniths and they are notorious for never running right after they get a few years on them. At 11:16 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:23:53 -0500 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170185622242 Yes, indeed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl questions
I have only owned 14 heads with over 200K to over 400k miles, all with no problems. As Marshall said, if they were going to fail, they would have failed by now. I will happily buy any 14 head car that everybody else wants to pass up, as long as it has not been overheated in the last 10-20 k miles. Alex said OT third H, a 603 car with a known good head; accelerator and transmission linkages adjusted by the book; ALDA set properly; the vacuum system sorted out; and good shocks, springs, and suspension rubber is an engineering masterpiece that stacks up to just about any car, new or old. My opinion is that a 300SDL is the BEST car ever made. Again assuming the engine, trans and suspension is good. buy one that has a history with it, if you can. They are out there. All along my recent very tiring trip to FL and back, I was wishing I could have driven a 300SDL for the trip, or at least any 126 They are all wonderful cars. Loren At 02:07 PM 1/15/2008, you wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 11:58 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bad OM603 head casting is #14. If it hasn't cracked yet it mostly likely won't unless it gets overheated. I had a #17 head crack without any warning or provocation. I believe that all 603 heads #21 are guilty until proven innocent and should be watched VERY carefully (and the prices of cars so equipped reduced accordingly). OTOH, Marshall always maintained (and surely with good data to back him up) that not all #14 heads were flawed, and that with proper attention to the cooling system were not something to worry about. OT third H, a 603 car with a known good head; accelerator and transmission linkages adjusted by the book; ALDA set properly; the vacuum system sorted out; and good shocks, springs, and suspension rubber is an engineering masterpiece that stacks up to just about any car, new or old. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
No sure whether its a 19 or 21, I didnt get that close. Will check it out again on saturday. Yes, its a full wagon. Is there any way to gauge the condition of the hydraulics without it running? I know it sounds like a dumb question but I am wondering if there is some common sign like leaking struts or a particular color hydraulic fluid... From 20 feet it looked solid, but there was alos a lot of snow on the thing! I will crawl under it next time.. --- Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Zach,, Are you talking about a DS19, DS21, or something else? Full wagon, I assume? I believe they were named safari wagons? Well, they are uncommon especially here in the States. Problem areas include, but are not limited to: Hydraulic system for the suspension which also feed the brakes and power steering. Not a bad system by design, but they often suffered at the hands of unskilled technicians. Electrical systems. Think early lucas, but at least ground is the correct polarity. Rust, rust, and more rust! Think w114 coupe daily driven in the north-east. If it has a semi-automatic gearbox, think MB hydrak! Ugh! Seriously, they are neat cars, drive and ride like nothing else. The 4 cylinder is a simple motor. Parts are not too hard to come across once you have an in with a few suppliers. Beware of inferior aftermarket quality parts. There are times when you will need to ship bits in from overseas though. Napa carries little more than oil filters for these cars! As for price, they run the gamut. I saw a clean DS21 wagon go on EBay about two years ago for under $4k, low mileage, almost no rust, stored indoors for a few years. Last comment on them, I enjoy driving a Citroen more than I enjoy working on it. Mathieu 1972 Citroen SM, 16k original miles, for sale on consignment www.oldworldauto.com On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Zach wrote: Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 SD 722-303 transmission trouble
My brand new '82 300SD *suddenly* and *with no warning* developed a transmission problem: does not shift out of first. Reverse and First shifts are quick. Since I stuck the Kaleb motor along with a known good transmission (~ 100k miles) in the car, everything was fine for ~ 10K miles. The old transmission leaked bad and it happened when the fluid level went low that it would not shift up. This time the fluid level is good. The kick-down cable is adjusted correctly and the modulator vacuum line is plugged in. Any ideas what went wrong? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Zach wrote: No sure whether its a 19 or 21, I didnt get that close. Will check it out again on saturday. Yes, its a full wagon. Those are neat cars. Cool looking too. For comps, look at UK sites, but keep in mind the prices will be higher than what can be realized in the US. For example a comparable SM to what I have will sell for in excess of 15k pounds in the UK. Is there any way to gauge the condition of the hydraulics without it running? I know it sounds like a dumb question but I am wondering if there is some common sign like leaking struts or a particular color hydraulic fluid... Without having the system raised, good luck. The fluid is green and is known as LHM assuming the correct stuff has been used. Look around the ram part of the struts for leaks. Also check the reservoir. If it still has most of its fluid in it, that is a good sign. There should be a sight glass on the side. From 20 feet it looked solid, but there was alos a lot of snow on the thing! I will crawl under it next time.. Good luck with it, but beware the tin worm. They do evil things to those cars. Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: You had my (high) interest until I got to the automatic gearbox. The SM was my dream car when I was ten years old. Actually I wouldn't mind having all three of that doctor's cars. I would mind having to pay for them, unfortunately. All the cars I've bought in my life don't add up to $20k. Mitch. If it were a 5 speed car, it would have already been sold, that I am sure. I will say, for a slushbox it is not that bad. The doctor had a neat collection, three Citroens, a '69.5 DS21, the 72 SM, and a '89 CX Prestige, plus the 6.3 and the Rolls. He also had three Subaru SVXs. Nice driving car, the SVX; I was quite impressed. He was a real gentleman, brilliant, compassionate, and always had a way to brighten things up when all looked grim. Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Inexpensive compressor
Curt Raymond wrote: Hey Gang, I want to get a compressor, Dad bought on at Sears, its a 1hp 3gal (I think). Its a pretty good compressor and has oil lube which should keep it alive for awhile. For mine I'd like something slightly bigger, that one only makes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interestingly the next size up is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but its an oilless machine. They also make the claim both that an oil compressor is quieter and an oilless compressor is quieter... Dang marketing droids. Anyway I can't afford more than about $250. I'd like to run an impact wrench, maybe a spot blaster and a couple other fairly low air tools. I'm not going to paint cars or sandblast frames... Suggestions? -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I got one at christmas from harbor freight its a upright 21 gal 240 volt I think it was $160? Am happy with it I like that it is a stand up model. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SD 722-303 transmission trouble
The carpet is jamming the kickdown switch in the down position, it WILL upshift, but at about 35 mph. If that's not the problem, the governor drive gear is broken, have to open the case to fix. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Those Top Gear guys are at it again
If I ever went to live in the UK, I think I'd have to have a Dolomite too. I always loved them! Would have to be white with a black roof and interior. Did they ever offer a 5 speed in it? Ed 300E On 16/01/2008, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZYNenW-Msfeature=related I can't keep this one to myself. At the end of part 2 I have tears in my eyes... I do like the look of the Dolomite though. Did they ever bring those to the US? Might make a cool lawn ornament. -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SD 722-303 transmission trouble
It tops out at about 25 mph. The switch is free and works. On 1/16/08, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The carpet is jamming the kickdown switch in the down position, it WILL upshift, but at about 35 mph. If that's not the problem, the governor drive gear is broken, have to open the case to fix. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SD 722-303 transmission trouble
Make sure the switch isn't shorted, too! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Those Top Gear guys are at it again
Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZYNenW-Ms I can't keep this one to myself. At the end of part 2 I have tears in my eyes... They paid 50% more for those things than Viky paid for the S124 she blew up? I'll take the 300TE over the Dolomite. At least the hydro suspension on the S124 worked. Did you see James' Princess lowrider? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108
Hydraulics! If you think the TD suspensions are bad--this is 4-wheel version of the same thing. Leak, fail. Dan On Jan 16, 2008, at 6:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108
Ah, but you don't need a battery -- they still came with a starting handle and there is a hole in the front bumper Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Valve Guides
My 1991 560SEL was burning some oil so I went to replace valve guide seals and notice that a couple of valve guides were loose. Is there a fix with out removing the head? Does anyone have the drill guide for drilling out the head bolts on the gas engines? Does anyone know of a cheap supplier? Thanks Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Detroit CL Crack Smoker
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/541540792.html Nice car but $26k... Uh, no. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citroen DS Wagon
Dan Weeks wrote: Hydraulics! If you think the TD suspensions are bad--this is 4-wheel version of the same thing. Leak, fail. More like a 6.9 than a SLS system. A TD can still be driven over a railroad crossing without scraping the body on the ground, a DS can't. The fun part about the Citroen is changing tires. IIRC, you move the ride height lever (cockpit control) to full high, stick a stand under the affected corner of the car, and then lower the ride height to raise the wheel. Not as nifty as the onboard jacks in a Indycar, but still pretty slick. (when the hydraulics are working) The brake pedal is something else too. Looks kind of like a floor mounted dimmer switch from a 1970 Chevy. You push on it and it doesn't move, but the car slows in proportion to the pressure you exert. I have a feeling that if something goes wrong with the hydro system you can't simply stop the car by pushing harder. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil Consumption
So..I'm consistently at 1 qt of oil burned (not leaked at all) every 630 mile these days. Should I be concerned? Bob R. '77 300D 188K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 TE REAR SUSP QUESTIONS
Have new-to-me '88 300TE. Rear self-leveling suspension has been gone through, lots replaced, and is dead level. But, has virtually no travel and is very bouncy. Spheres, right? How much of a job is this to do, how much cost to have done? Thanks! Dan 82 300SD 300k 88 300TD lots ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Detroit CL Crack Smoker
Rick Knoble wrote: http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/541540792.html Nice car but $26k... Uh, no. Maybe her husband wants her to get rid of that old thing and she said she'd try to sell it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 TE REAR SUSP QUESTIONS
Dan Weeks wrote: Spheres, right? 'reckon so. How much of a job is this to do, how much cost to have done? You've got to break loose and unscrew the flare nut at the sphere, and unbolt it from the body. Then you need to purge the air from the system. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl questions
You are all convincing me to go look at it on Saturday even thought I don't need it. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl questions I have only owned 14 heads with over 200K to over 400k miles, all with no problems. As Marshall said, if they were going to fail, they would have failed by now. I will happily buy any 14 head car that everybody else wants to pass up, as long as it has not been overheated in the last 10-20 k miles. Alex said OT third H, a 603 car with a known good head; accelerator and transmission linkages adjusted by the book; ALDA set properly; the vacuum system sorted out; and good shocks, springs, and suspension rubber is an engineering masterpiece that stacks up to just about any car, new or old. My opinion is that a 300SDL is the BEST car ever made. Again assuming the engine, trans and suspension is good. buy one that has a history with it, if you can. They are out there. All along my recent very tiring trip to FL and back, I was wishing I could have driven a 300SDL for the trip, or at least any 126 They are all wonderful cars. Loren At 02:07 PM 1/15/2008, you wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 11:58 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bad OM603 head casting is #14. If it hasn't cracked yet it mostly likely won't unless it gets overheated. I had a #17 head crack without any warning or provocation. I believe that all 603 heads #21 are guilty until proven innocent and should be watched VERY carefully (and the prices of cars so equipped reduced accordingly). OTOH, Marshall always maintained (and surely with good data to back him up) that not all #14 heads were flawed, and that with proper attention to the cooling system were not something to worry about. OT third H, a 603 car with a known good head; accelerator and transmission linkages adjusted by the book; ALDA set properly; the vacuum system sorted out; and good shocks, springs, and suspension rubber is an engineering masterpiece that stacks up to just about any car, new or old. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption
I seem to remeber reading that MB specs is 1% oil use versus fuel used, or in other worrds for every 100 litres of fuel it is OK to use 1 litre of oil. However this might not be for your particular engine. - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Oil Consumption So..I'm consistently at 1 qt of oil burned (not leaked at all) every 630 mile these days. Should I be concerned? Bob R. '77 300D 188K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 9:01 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Those Top Gear guys are at it again
And at 5:44 in the video, Jeremy gives his car the finger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZYNenW-Ms ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] w116 fuel tank
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/zip/541542012.html no interest or affiliation. FREE -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] British car test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZYNenW-Msfeature=related My God, that was funny. All five parts. And so accurate. RLE ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SD 722-303 transmission trouble
Hans - sorry about the tranny problem - I have no clue, but it is good to see you back on the list! On Jan 16, 2008 4:01 PM, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brand new '82 300SD *suddenly* and *with no warning* developed a transmission problem: does not shift out of first. Reverse and First shifts are quick. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SD 722-303 transmission trouble/pull fuse
In a message dated 1/16/2008 5:57:49 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It tops out at about 25 mph. The switch is free and works. Just to confirm, you can pull the fuse to the transmission kick down circuit. Cheap and esay! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 TE REAR SUSP QUESTIONS
A PITA more than difficult, it's a job to get all the short hydraulic lines back in place without stripping the fittings. Accumulators were about $100 each when I did mine, but that's a few years back. Takes a couple hours to do, no more if you have a lift. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption
In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:23:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So..I'm consistently at 1 qt of oil burned (not leaked at all) every 630 mile these days. Should I be concerned? Bob, I would like to know where it is going if I am using that much. Check the line from the vacuum pump to the intake. Oil leaks pumped from either the vacuum pump itself, or the shut off diaphragm on the FI pump, will end up going into the engine without being visible. You can put the line in a 2 litre soda bottle for a few days to watch this. From add to full is about 2 quarts. Are you remembering to only use the lower half of this range. Filling to full will likely use the top quart more quickly. Slow down! I know that is a boring ride to the site but blowby is a function of engine load, as we discussed before. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption
A quart in 1000 miles is the limit, at 630 (a quart to a tank) I'd take a look at the valves, anyway. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:19:30 -0800 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quart in 1000 miles is the limit, at 630 (a quart to a tank) I'd take a look at the valves, anyway. You can go 630 miles on a tank?! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
