Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
It seems than at Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:46:59 -0500, Wonko wrote: You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof. Eeek! Just because it has not moved in your car (yet) does not mean it's a good idea!! That mass that keeps it in place will turn from friend to enemy as soon as you are in a situation in which seatbelts are beneficial. I suppose you could think of the hold down clamp as a seatbelt for your battery... -- Philip, with secured batteries in all my road vehicles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pretty soon only paypal or credit cars will be allowed on ebay
Wonko the Sane wrote: I have no problem with that. I read that, and thought So the only way to pay for an eBay purchase will be via ways that eBay Co make a percentage of the funds, in addition to the percentage selling commission which is being increased this month? Eventually, they will find a way to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
andrew strasfogel wrote: I think that unless I can walk beneath the car w/o crouching, it makes more sense to get the low rise lift rather than a post lift. With a 9 1/2' ceiling, the floor of the car will be less than 6' in most cases. You decide whether it's easier to stoop a bit or get a chair on wheels. The two post lift leaves a lot more open space under the car than a scissors lift, which gets in the way to various extents when doing tranny, driveshaft, or exhaust work. The drive on lifts are foolproof, just put the wheels on the rails and hit the lift button, but they don't let you remove the wheels. Drive ons are great for oil changes, except for MBZ, which you don't need to get under to drain the oil. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Potential engine rebuild
IMHO, The most important part of an engine rebuild is the choice of machine shops - it *must* be someone familiar with the engine being rebuilt as each type has its own quirks. Perhaps you can find out something about the MS and ask some questions. Maybe find out how many of this particular engine thay have machine'd for a rebuild. Any come-backs? Did they magna-flux surfaces that are prone to crack? Did they have the nitriding on the crank redone? Everyone I've talked to says it never works. my .02 cents - Larry T- - Original Message - From: R Wasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential engine rebuild Thanks Tom I will keep your suggestion in mind regarding the injectors. Probably will take them to the injector shop as part of the process. As far as Donalds suggestion regarding a replacement engine, I'm wondering what that might cost? I recall hearing prices for a crate engine at $6k and up. Anyone have a line on a used engine? My Indy is very confident in his rebuilder. Guy charges around $1400 plus parts. Then I'd have to pay my Indy the labor to pull and install the engine. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1618 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 6:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Ditto on both my 240D's. One never had hold down-this one does. Maybe the turbo on the CD is what gets in the way. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is I am not sure what the issue is. The battery in my W123 is right there, looking at you. You disconnect the cables, take a deep breath, and snatch the big-ass'd battery out of the tray. Then you grasp your chest and take a few deep breaths. Take a drink of the beverage of your choice, then install new battery in reverse steps. You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey if I can do a job, it HAS to be easy! On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh It's easy and simple in the all manual 240D! You have the wrong 123 my friend, and I have the cure ;-) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the award goes to Battery RR! UGH. Why did they have to put the %#)($in air cleaner in the way? On a positive note, at least it only takes a 13mm open end wrench and a 10mm socket and extension Luther -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Fuse cover used to be a pathetic exercise, but I've got the move down now and can do it effortlessly...only took a couple years to figure it out! Chris Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto on both my 240D's. One never had hold down-this one does. Maybe the turbo on the CD is what gets in the way. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is I am not sure what the issue is. The battery in my W123 is right there, looking at you. You disconnect the cables, take a deep breath, and snatch the big-ass'd battery out of the tray. Then you grasp your chest and take a few deep breaths. Take a drink of the beverage of your choice, then install new battery in reverse steps. You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Hey if I can do a job, it HAS to be easy! On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM, OK Don wrote: Huh It's easy and simple in the all manual 240D! You have the wrong 123 my friend, and I have the cure ;-) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Luther wrote: And the award goes to Battery RR! UGH. Why did they have to put the %#)($in air cleaner in the way? On a positive note, at least it only takes a 13mm open end wrench and a 10mm socket and extension Luther -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5
Wonko the Sane wrote: Best recommendation I can give them -- four years of use in multiple vehicles (mix of FWD RWD). You can read all of the online reviews you want, but I've experienced these tires first hand. If you live where it snows (or rains), you can't go wrong. ...provided your car takes 14 tires. Those Regattas aren't available (at least from The Tire Rack) in 15 sizes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Allan, I never said it was a garden of eden. I've lived (for short periods of time) with indigenous people in both north america, and southeast asia, and I have slept in the jungle without a mosquito net in asia and the yucatan. My best friend has been living with a remote tribe in Fiji for two years as part of peace corps, and is now marrying a woman from the tribe and got his time extended. On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Allan Streib wrote: What you call a wild animal existence isn't as horrible as most people from our civilized society imagine. It's very different (and not without serious disadvantages and shortcomings), but not inherently inferior. I know a few people from civilized society whom have gone to live with indigenous peoples to do humanitarian or environmental work, and decided they preferred living that way and didn't want to come back to civilized society. Neither is it the garden of eden you seem to think it is. Hey if you want to go live in a hut in the jungle and swat mosquitoes all night and hope you don't get malaria because we're not allowed to use DDT anymore (a decision that has probably killed more humans than all the wars of the 20th century combined), be my guest. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5
I'm fairly impressed by the dry traction so far, but I don't need to worry about wet and/or snow traction since I live in the desert. I think they're a hard-composite tire marketed mostly to OEMs for improved fuel economy, and reduce tread wear. I use my car mostly for long distance freeway driving in very hot weather. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Those didnt seem to have a very good traction rating on tirerack Tyler Backman wrote: As far as I can tell they stopped making the OEM Conti tread pattern. I had them on my 190DT, but needed to replace 2 of them, and nobody could find a matching set. I now have 2 195/65HR-15 Michelin Energy MXV4 S8 tires and two of the OEM style Contis. When the Contis wear out, I will be using all Michelin MXV4s. they were only $85 each on tirerack.com (no affiliation). Tyler On Aug 21, 2008, at 2:42 PM, larry turner wrote: I put new tires on my 300D 2.5T a month or so ago. I got 4 Continental ContiProContact and absolutely love them!! Great in the wet, dry, quiet, yada, yada - However, m,y son just bought Kuhmo's for his MB - a 78 240D - so performance is not an issue. Anyway - my vote is for the Conti's -- Good luck -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:54 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
There are no remote tribes in Fiji (I was there as a PCV for 3+ years). There are remote villages, but when I was there the indigenous Fijians were never considered pas belonging to different tribes. Several PCVs in my vintage married local girls, of varying ethnicity (Indian, Fijian, Chinese, and mixed race).. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Allan, I never said it was a garden of eden. I've lived (for short periods of time) with indigenous people in both north america, and southeast asia, and I have slept in the jungle without a mosquito net in asia and the yucatan. My best friend has been living with a remote tribe in Fiji for two years as part of peace corps, and is now marrying a woman from the tribe and got his time extended. On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Allan Streib wrote: What you call a wild animal existence isn't as horrible as most people from our civilized society imagine. It's very different (and not without serious disadvantages and shortcomings), but not inherently inferior. I know a few people from civilized society whom have gone to live with indigenous peoples to do humanitarian or environmental work, and decided they preferred living that way and didn't want to come back to civilized society. Neither is it the garden of eden you seem to think it is. Hey if you want to go live in a hut in the jungle and swat mosquitoes all night and hope you don't get malaria because we're not allowed to use DDT anymore (a decision that has probably killed more humans than all the wars of the 20th century combined), be my guest. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
You're right, they're a village, not a tribe. Sounds like you'd know a lot more about this than I do! I've never even been to Fiji, but I hope to go over to attend his wedding next year. The village has a diesel generator which they don't really use because they can't afford fuel for it, and don't have vehicles to get the fuel with. I'm hoping to help them make their own fuel for the generator from coconut oil either as biodiesel or SVO On Aug 22, 2008, at 10:01 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: There are no remote tribes in Fiji (I was there as a PCV for 3+ years). There are remote villages, but when I was there the indigenous Fijians were never considered pas belonging to different tribes. Several PCVs in my vintage married local girls, of varying ethnicity (Indian, Fijian, Chinese, and mixed race).. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Live learn
Re: Seems like a bonus to me that it does not have one. Kaleb, And just where would you suggest connecting the EGR valve? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Uh, my CD engine compartment is the same as the D and TD except for the Cali versions Luther andrew strasfogel wrote: One trick is to peel back the weather seal at the top of the rear engine bay to give another 1 of access (it's formed into ppsition rather than glued). I do that as well when removing the fuse box cover on the opposite side... Battery RR on the W123 300CD took the MB roadside guy 45 minutes - it's very tight. It's a lot easier on the 300TD due to its more spacious engine compartment. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've not worked on a 124 yet. I do know the California 123 OM617 is MUCH easier to RR the battery, even easier than my 126! Luther Loren Faeth wrote: Huh? I remember it being more of a dance with a 124 than in the 123. You need to put the hood up first. It only takes one wrench for the cables and a 10mm socket on an extension. I like my 12 extension. I use it so much I leave it on my floppy head rachet all the time. It is nice when the battery has 2 handles on it. At 10:46 AM 8/21/2008, you wrote: And the award goes to Battery RR! UGH. Why did they have to put the %#)($in air cleaner in the way? On a positive note, at least it only takes a 13mm open end wrench and a 10mm socket and extension Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 81 TD for $7g in Atl
I think hes asking about $2g to much but nearly new eng and not to old on the trans.. Looks decent http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/806286673.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Tempting, but the cancer is scary Luther OK Don wrote: Huh It's easy and simple in the all manual 240D! You have the wrong 123 my friend, and I have the cure ;-) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the award goes to Battery RR! UGH. Why did they have to put the %#)($in air cleaner in the way? On a positive note, at least it only takes a 13mm open end wrench and a 10mm socket and extension Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Join the turbo world and you'll soon see the PIA Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: I am not sure what the issue is. The battery in my W123 is right there, looking at you. You disconnect the cables, take a deep breath, and snatch the big-ass'd battery out of the tray. Then you grasp your chest and take a few deep breaths. Take a drink of the beverage of your choice, then install new battery in reverse steps. You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey if I can do a job, it HAS to be easy! On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh It's easy and simple in the all manual 240D! You have the wrong 123 my friend, and I have the cure ;-) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the award goes to Battery RR! UGH. Why did they have to put the %#)($in air cleaner in the way? On a positive note, at least it only takes a 13mm open end wrench and a 10mm socket and extension Luther -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] AC flushing solvent ?? what is OK ??
I have seen different products around auto part stores as AC flush, most are quick evaporating and fall under suspicion as to their contents. There has been some discussion here recently about this. One product that in a previous thread was : http://www.id-usa.com/product.asp?CID=12PID=41 There has been postings of concern that there could be nasties in some of this type of stuff that could damage rubber hoses. I have found to products available from FJC http://www.fjcinc.com/fjcflush.htm 2128 / 2031 2406 / 2405 The MSDS sheets: http://www.fjcinc.com/msds.html list these as: 2406 - Blend of Aliphatic Hydrocarbon CAS 64742-47-8 99% and 1% top secret. 2128 - top secret with a boiling point of 212F and a Specific Gravity of 1, sounds like water to me .. Any one know any thing about these products?? I have a real 2 stage ½ HP Alcatel vacuum pump. Pulls about 10 milli-tor ( 10 microns). So in theory I could handle 'water based solvent' Ideas suggestions ?? George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 207K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
You will enjoy the kava once you get used to it. It looks like well-used dishwater but tastes like a blend of Lavoris and white pepper. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, they're a village, not a tribe. Sounds like you'd know a lot more about this than I do! I've never even been to Fiji, but I hope to go over to attend his wedding next year. The village has a diesel generator which they don't really use because they can't afford fuel for it, and don't have vehicles to get the fuel with. I'm hoping to help them make their own fuel for the generator from coconut oil either as biodiesel or SVO On Aug 22, 2008, at 10:01 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: There are no remote tribes in Fiji (I was there as a PCV for 3+ years). There are remote villages, but when I was there the indigenous Fijians were never considered pas belonging to different tribes. Several PCVs in my vintage married local girls, of varying ethnicity (Indian, Fijian, Chinese, and mixed race).. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 81 TD for $7g in Atl
Blue book (high retail) is probably close to that price so it may be worth it, especialyl if the car is clean and unmolested inside. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think hes asking about $2g to much but nearly new eng and not to old on the trans.. Looks decent http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/806286673.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
What is a heavy up? By power, I mean what currently runs from the house to the garage? Is there a sub-panel in the garage with breakers or fuses? How would you turn off the power to the garage from the house end? Are there breakers at the house end that you would use to shut off the power to the garage? That alone would tell you what is now available. If you look at the wiring at the house end or the garage end it will also tell you whether there is any additional capacity available in the sense of possibly having wire that exceeds could be fused at a higher amperage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Weird junkyard
If you're ever in north Central MA don't go to Ollie's I190 Auto Parts looking for a good deal. He's got a bunch of old MBs but he thinks they're made of gold. I went up there today looking for a hood for my 240D, he's got a couple, 2 are okay, one has a little rust, two maybe dime sized spots, the other has maybe 3 half dolar sized spots. The third is bent a bit on the driver's side and just a little rust... The guy says $100 for the best one, the hood pad is disintigrating so I say $75, he says forget it. He says he'll make a deal on the bent one, I say $25, he laughs... Theres a couple other little things I need, like a shifter surround a buzzer and a clip so I tell him if he'll throw that in I'll do $100 he says no way... So I walk. A buddy is tied in with the junkyard crowd, I should have gone to him first... He says the guy Bert that runs the place is a no-dicker kind of guy and was the top salesman at another yard years ago mostly by being a hardass. My buddy calls but can't get anything, he even tried $80... Dwight knows a guy with a good hood for $60 in RI which is $20 away. I asked Dwight to ask about a couple other parts for me, I think Monday I'll head down there, to hell with Mr. Hardass. Its odd though, I've never been to a junkyard where the price demanded had any relationship to the price paid before... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
A heavy up is an enlargement of the main panel box to boost the electrical capacity. Yes, there is a separate panel in the garage. The non-trivial part is getting any unit delivered to the house, unloaded, and installed! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a heavy up? By power, I mean what currently runs from the house to the garage? Is there a sub-panel in the garage with breakers or fuses? How would you turn off the power to the garage from the house end? Are there breakers at the house end that you would use to shut off the power to the garage? That alone would tell you what is now available. If you look at the wiring at the house end or the garage end it will also tell you whether there is any additional capacity available in the sense of possibly having wire that exceeds could be fused at a higher amperage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Better than pumping up your tires
This new technology looks like it would be better for your car's performance than pumping up your tires, but it might take a bit more effort. But just a bit of effort to save the planet? --R http://adw.tumblr.com/post/46829231/via-florianjenett-de ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
We found a fijian store in Portland, OR that sells it. It's interesting, but I'd say it tastes like muddy water, other than the numbness/tingling. I'm sure I'd eventually began to like it if I drank as much as they apparently do in the villages! So which corps re-entry group were you in? I'd join if I could get my wife to go with me, but she's busy with graduate school. Tyler On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You will enjoy the kava once you get used to it. It looks like well- used dishwater but tastes like a blend of Lavoris and white pepper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better than pumping up your tires
I just did an Eddy Murphy laugh at that one... Rich Thomas wrote: This new technology looks like it would be better for your car's performance than pumping up your tires, but it might take a bit more effort. But just a bit of effort to save the planet? --R http://adw.tumblr.com/post/46829231/via-florianjenett-de ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks
I believe I mentioned something about this to you just the other day. I'm STILL stayin out of it. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:54:47 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This has to be the first time there has been a political urinating-contest and I stayed completely out of it. I shall try to continue that behavior. Life's too short to be crabby and confrontational. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OK folks, the recent OT political stuff is starting to border on getting to personal attacks. Lets tone it back before I have to cut off all politics all together again. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
I'm 31,000 behind. This time next year probably. Mine's a 201 car though. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:39:13 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice - I'm only about 3000 behind you -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
That is cool. I need to do the same thing. We have 100 Amp service panel and I want to move to 200 Amp. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop A heavy up is an enlargement of the main panel box to boost the electrical capacity. Yes, there is a separate panel in the garage. The non-trivial part is getting any unit delivered to the house, unloaded, and installed! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a heavy up? By power, I mean what currently runs from the house to the garage? Is there a sub-panel in the garage with breakers or fuses? How would you turn off the power to the garage from the house end? Are there breakers at the house end that you would use to shut off the power to the garage? That alone would tell you what is now available. If you look at the wiring at the house end or the garage end it will also tell you whether there is any additional capacity available in the sense of possibly having wire that exceeds could be fused at a higher amperage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop How much power? I dunno, but we recently had a heavy up in the house so I guess there is adequate capacity. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power do you have in the garage now? I have 220 V in mine but only 30 Amps as I ran #10 cable underground when we built it. Now I wish I had gone with a minimum of #8 so I could run 40 Amps or more. My welders want more power. If I try to run at the higher amperages, I blow breakers. The underground cable is a bit pricy so it will cost some money to run the bigger line out. My garage is only 40 feet or so from the house but also a mess to dig in the new line. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop Good points - thanks, Mitch. I guess the two post drive-on lift rules out brake work... Also, it requires 220 volts. How big a deal is that? Our garage is detached, about 75' from the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better than pumping up your tires
If they match the paint I could go for this. Also, why not put larger wheels on the rear so it will always be going down hill. Harry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] Better than pumping up your tires This new technology looks like it would be better for your car's performance than pumping up your tires, but it might take a bit more effort. But just a bit of effort to save the planet? --R http://adw.tumblr.com/post/46829231/via-florianjenett-de ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Better than pumping up your tires
You need some air shocks with those bigger tires, pump them up a bit. You can buy a rattle can for a buck at the dollar store would do the aero add-ons. So for maybe $3 for some paint, tape, and a razor knife you too could make your car faster and more efficient, and save oil for the future! --R harry watkins wrote: If they match the paint I could go for this. Also, why not put larger wheels on the rear so it will always be going down hill. Harry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] Better than pumping up your tires This new technology looks like it would be better for your car's performance than pumping up your tires, but it might take a bit more effort. But just a bit of effort to save the planet? --R http://adw.tumblr.com/post/46829231/via-florianjenett-de ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
...You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
Thats the point, you dont connect it, you leave it off. Glenn Brown wrote: Re: Seems like a bonus to me that it does not have one. Kaleb, And just where would you suggest connecting the EGR valve? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
you are scared of the cancer on his car? I knew it has some which is a surprise since its a OK car. We do not usually have rust here Luther wrote: Tempting, but the cancer is scary Luther OK Don wrote: Huh It's easy and simple in the all manual 240D! You have the wrong 123 my friend, and I have the cure ;-) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the award goes to Battery RR! UGH. Why did they have to put the %#)($in air cleaner in the way? On a positive note, at least it only takes a 13mm open end wrench and a 10mm socket and extension Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird junkyard
back from your trip I see Curt Raymond wrote: If you're ever in north Central MA don't go to Ollie's I190 Auto Parts looking for a good deal. He's got a bunch of old MBs but he thinks they're made of gold. I went up there today looking for a hood for my 240D, he's got a couple, 2 are okay, one has a little rust, two maybe dime sized spots, the other has maybe 3 half dolar sized spots. The third is bent a bit on the driver's side and just a little rust... The guy says $100 for the best one, the hood pad is disintigrating so I say $75, he says forget it. He says he'll make a deal on the bent one, I say $25, he laughs... Theres a couple other little things I need, like a shifter surround a buzzer and a clip so I tell him if he'll throw that in I'll do $100 he says no way... So I walk. A buddy is tied in with the junkyard crowd, I should have gone to him first... He says the guy Bert that runs the place is a no-dicker kind of guy and was the top salesman at another yard years ago mostly by being a hardass. My buddy calls but can't get anything, he even tried $80... Dwight knows a guy with a good hood for $60 in RI which is $20 away. I asked Dwight to ask about a couple other parts for me, I think Monday I'll head down there, to hell with Mr. Hardass. Its odd though, I've never been to a junkyard where the price demanded had any relationship to the price paid before... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Live learn
Re: Thats the point, you dont connect it, you leave it off. Kaleb, The mechanic who was willing to do the work indicated that it would probably run terrible without the EGR connected. I took his word for it. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sorry to see this
Aug 13, 2008 Lime Rock Park was closed down for an hour and half today to honor Paul Newman. He was attended by his family, close friends, Skip Barber, mechanics on his race team, and those who happened to be at the track. PLN toured the track in his Corvette race car with his Buick V8 powered Volvo station wagon following. He had come to say goodbye. Diagnosed with terminal cancer he is not expected to live beyond September. Race driver, actor, humanitarian, family man and friend; they did not come any better. http://www.foxnews.http://wwwhttp://www.foxhttp:// ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
That doesnt make any sense at all. It should run better with the egr disabled. Glenn Brown wrote: Re: Thats the point, you dont connect it, you leave it off. Kaleb, The mechanic who was willing to do the work indicated that it would probably run terrible without the EGR connected. I took his word for it. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That doesnt make any sense at all. It should run better with the egr disabled. Diesels should run better, gassers are probably set up so that they ping without EGR, unless you do something to the spark advance when you kill the EGR. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
maybe, could be. Im a diesel guy after all Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That doesnt make any sense at all. It should run better with the egr disabled. Diesels should run better, gassers are probably set up so that they ping without EGR, unless you do something to the spark advance when you kill the EGR. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:32 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
Yep it sure did. But Dummy Here didn't position the camera in my phone to catch the Clock too. SHOZBOT!!! Boy Do I Feel Like a Clone. Russ W Kevin Kraly wrote: Did it hit 333,333 miles at 3:33 PM? If so, that's pretty cool! We noticed as the odo on The '07 Ram hit 6565 and on our camping trip last weekend. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
But it's contained - almost in remission, and the price can be right --- On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tempting, but the cancer is scary Luther -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Ah - the hidden truth comes out - it was purchased, and spent it's first 3 or 4 years in Minnesota. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are scared of the cancer on his car? I knew it has some which is a surprise since its a OK car. We do not usually have rust here -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
MMM's SLC has no EGR now - well that's not totally true - all the parts were in the trunk. It's a fine running car. The early EGRs were to cool combustion and reduce nitrides(?) at idle and before warmed up. You can't compare the emission systems on current cars with those from the '70's. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesnt make any sense at all. It should run better with the egr disabled. Glenn Brown wrote: Re: Thats the point, you dont connect it, you leave it off. Kaleb, The mechanic who was willing to do the work indicated that it would probably run terrible without the EGR connected. I took his word for it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
and we all know it runs JUST fine. OK Don wrote: MMM's SLC has no EGR now - well that's not totally true - all the parts were in the trunk. It's a fine running car. The early EGRs were to cool combustion and reduce nitrides(?) at idle and before warmed up. You can't compare the emission systems on current cars with those from the '70's. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesnt make any sense at all. It should run better with the egr disabled. Glenn Brown wrote: Re: Thats the point, you dont connect it, you leave it off. Kaleb, The mechanic who was willing to do the work indicated that it would probably run terrible without the EGR connected. I took his word for it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
Does your car talk with a somewhat-Canadian accent? On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:32 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah - the hidden truth comes out - it was purchased, and spent it's first 3 or 4 years in Minnesota. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
It seems than at Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:39:05 -0500, Wonko wrote: Does your car talk with a somewhat-Canadian accent? Probably a Norwegian-German accent, with a Okie drawl. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
My battery hasn't shifted in (if I remember correctly) four years of 240D ownership. If I roll the car and the battery breaks loose, its welding itself to the hood is way down the list of my concerns. And yes, I have had to do several panic stops. Battery didn't move, or if it did, the cables rocked it in place (they are not excessively long). I am not saying that locking the battery down is a bad idea. I am simply saying that mine isn't and I've not experienced any ill effects. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 81 TD for $7g in Atl
That's pretty nice - at least based on the photos. Do wish he wrote better, though. That sort of thing drives me nuts! *It has been maintained by the owner who is a Mercedes factory trained technician for the past 15 years. *Perhaps: ... who has been a Mercedes factory trained ... or, even better, ... who is a Mercedes factory trained technician with fifteen years experience. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think hes asking about $2g to much but nearly new eng and not to old on the trans.. Looks decent http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/806286673.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
Battery in my 87 300D has no mounting other than very short cables either. Battery in my deceased 80 240D had clamp, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oblivious My battery hasn't shifted in (if I remember correctly) four years of 240D ownership. If I roll the car and the battery breaks loose, its welding itself to the hood is way down the list of my concerns. And yes, I have had to do several panic stops. Battery didn't move, or if it did, the cables rocked it in place (they are not excessively long). I am not saying that locking the battery down is a bad idea. I am simply saying that mine isn't and I've not experienced any ill effects. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
EGR bleeds some exhaust gas back into the intake which dilutes the intake charge and drops the peak combustion temperature. An engine set up to run with EGR will run the same or worse without. This goes for diesel and gas. Disabling the EGR in a diesel prevents sludge from building up in the intake. The sludge is a mix of soot from the exhaust and oil mist from the crank case. Blocking the EGR eliminates the soot. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/22/08 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Live learn Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That doesnt make any sense at all. It should run better with the egr disabled. Diesels should run better, gassers are probably set up so that they ping without EGR, unless you do something to the spark advance when you kill the EGR. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:48 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 81 TD for $7g in Atl
Or could be, It has been maintained by the owner, a Mercedes factory-trained technician, for the past 15 years. Even better, though, is, The owner, a Mercedes factory-trained technician, has maintained it for the past 15 years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 81 TD for $7g in Atl That's pretty nice - at least based on the photos. Do wish he wrote better, though. That sort of thing drives me nuts! *It has been maintained by the owner who is a Mercedes factory trained technician for the past 15 years. *Perhaps: ... who has been a Mercedes factory trained ... or, even better, ... who is a Mercedes factory trained technician with fifteen years experience. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think hes asking about $2g to much but nearly new eng and not to old on the trans.. Looks decent http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/806286673.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
My battery will not leave the tray unless the cables (or the battery posts) break. If an impact -- or any other sudden, catastrophic vehicular deceleration -- is significant enough to snap those big copper wires or the battery posts, then I have way more important things to worry about -- like the afterlife. (I sure hope John Calvin had it right!) Like I said previously, I've stood max-force on the brakes a few times (when a car pulled out in front of me) and the battery didn't depart the tray. Good enough for me. But, hey -- if you have the clamp on your battery tray, snug it down. I don't currently have that option and don't plan to spend any $$$ to resolve that issue. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 81 TD for $7g in Atl
Well written, Wilton. You've trumped me. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Or could be, It has been maintained by the owner, a Mercedes factory-trained technician, for the past 15 years. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300SD Stater interment
Sometimes when I try to start my 300SD it does nothing, not even a click. When it happens If I try a few times it will start. At first I was convinced that is was the ignition switch because I never hear a click ( would think I could here the solenoid). And it always seamed that when it did this it would respond if I twisted the key on the next attempt than the previous one. However the last time this happened I could swear I herd click when I release the key on the first attempt. When it did not start. Normally I don't here a sound. Of course it has never persisted long enough to get a meter on the starter solenoid terminal.It has done it long enough one would think if it was the brushes going out it would have died by now .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorry to see this
Growing up in the 50s, they were then referred to as Coffin Nails. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aug 13, 2008 Lime Rock Park was closed down for an hour and half today to honor Paul Newman. He was attended by his family, close friends, Skip Barber, mechanics on his race team, and those who happened to be at the track. PLN toured the track in his Corvette race car with his Buick V8 powered Volvo station wagon following. He had come to say goodbye. Diagnosed with terminal cancer he is not expected to live beyond September. Race driver, actor, humanitarian, family man and friend; they did not come any better. http://www.foxnews.http://wwwhttp://www.foxhttp:// ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Stater interment
Order a starter from Rusty. Don't go NAPA, as I did once / never again -- I went thru five bad NAPA rebuilt ones before Rusty sent me one that actually worked longer than a week. A year later, Rusty's is still starting the car. There isn't much in the wiring diagram between the key and the starter. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sometimes when I try to start my 300SD it does nothing, not even a click. When it happens If I try a few times it will start. At first I was convinced that is was the ignition switch because I never hear a click ( would think I could here the solenoid). And it always seamed that when it did this it would respond if I twisted the key on the next attempt than the previous one. However the last time this happened I could swear I herd click when I release the key on the first attempt. When it did not start. Normally I don't here a sound. Of course it has never persisted long enough to get a meter on the starter solenoid terminal.It has done it long enough one would think if it was the brushes going out it would have died by now .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
That's closer to it - though it does favor driving North vs. South. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:39:05 -0500, Wonko wrote: Does your car talk with a somewhat-Canadian accent? Probably a Norwegian-German accent, with a Okie drawl. -- Philip -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
I learned that hard way, that a loose battery in an MGA will shake the plates loose, while one that's fastened in place will live a normal life. That's in a car that Car and Driver (or Road and Track, don't remember which now) described the suspension as allowing you to discern between a regular and a filter butt as you drive over them. I doubt this applies to our fine Mercedes automobiles! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My battery will not leave the tray unless the cables (or the battery posts) break. If an impact -- or any other sudden, catastrophic vehicular deceleration -- is significant enough to snap those big copper wires or the battery posts, then I have way more important things to worry about -- like the afterlife. (I sure hope John Calvin had it right!) Like I said previously, I've stood max-force on the brakes a few times (when a car pulled out in front of me) and the battery didn't depart the tray. Good enough for me. But, hey -- if you have the clamp on your battery tray, snug it down. I don't currently have that option and don't plan to spend any $$$ to resolve that issue. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest PIA simple 123 repair is....
If you see a note taped to the dash suggesting ice fishing, -- well, tell the wife. We have meds for that. Wife can even get them for you. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:25 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's closer to it - though it does favor driving North vs. South. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:39:05 -0500, Wonko wrote: Does your car talk with a somewhat-Canadian accent? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Stater interment
If it is the starter I have a shop that repairs them here in dallas. You get your unit back.I know the guy and have had good luck with him. Been about 10 years however .. We shall see.. I would not go to the local parts seller on that ... Just still wonder if it is something else ... I might put a test wire on it and keep a meter in the car to see if I can catch it in the act .. On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 21:18 -0500, Wonko the Sane wrote: Order a starter from Rusty. Don't go NAPA, as I did once / never again -- I went thru five bad NAPA rebuilt ones before Rusty sent me one that actually worked longer than a week. A year later, Rusty's is still starting the car. There isn't much in the wiring diagram between the key and the starter. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sometimes when I try to start my 300SD it does nothing, not even a click. When it happens If I try a few times it will start. At first I was convinced that is was the ignition switch because I never hear a click ( would think I could here the solenoid). And it always seamed that when it did this it would respond if I twisted the key on the next attempt than the previous one. However the last time this happened I could swear I herd click when I release the key on the first attempt. When it did not start. Normally I don't here a sound. Of course it has never persisted long enough to get a meter on the starter solenoid terminal.It has done it long enough one would think if it was the brushes going out it would have died by now .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Stater interment
They can be intermittent for a year or longer, then finally just refuse to turn. Two options are to pound on the starter via a length of wood and a hammer, or using one of the manual starter switches (sold for turning the engine while you're adjusting valves, etc.) that clamp onto the solenoid terminals to see what's happening. It has done it long enough one would think if it was the brushes going out it would have died by now .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
Does the MGA (I lust after one) have two 6-volts tucked in behind the seat like the '71 MGB does? I shoved a 12 volt battery into my trunk (not tied down anywhere), strung long cables, and drove the car until the day I sold it. I trashed and thrashed that car -- as one should do with an MGB -- and the battery never even turned over in the trunk. Just to deflect flame wars, here again is my point -- If your battery tray has the snug-down, use it. 30 seconds max to attach. Me? My car doesn't have one and I'm not going to start haunting junk yards looking for the hardware. I have, however, checked all of my fuses and am using Mobil 1 15W-50. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned that hard way, that a loose battery in an MGA will shake the plates loose, while one that's fastened in place will live a normal life. That's in a car that Car and Driver (or Road and Track, don't remember which now) described the suspension as allowing you to discern between a regular and a filter butt as you drive over them. I doubt this applies to our fine Mercedes automobiles! -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
Besides, you're old and the world would be better to be rid of your old butt :) Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: My battery will not leave the tray unless the cables (or the battery posts) break. If an impact -- or any other sudden, catastrophic vehicular deceleration -- is significant enough to snap those big copper wires or the battery posts, then I have way more important things to worry about -- like the afterlife. (I sure hope John Calvin had it right!) Like I said previously, I've stood max-force on the brakes a few times (when a car pulled out in front of me) and the battery didn't depart the tray. Good enough for me. But, hey -- if you have the clamp on your battery tray, snug it down. I don't currently have that option and don't plan to spend any $$$ to resolve that issue. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
You stopped being humorous a long time ago. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, you're old and the world would be better to be rid of your old butt :) Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: My battery will not leave the tray unless the cables (or the battery posts) break. If an impact -- or any other sudden, catastrophic vehicular deceleration -- is significant enough to snap those big copper wires or the battery posts, then I have way more important things to worry about -- like the afterlife. (I sure hope John Calvin had it right!) Like I said previously, I've stood max-force on the brakes a few times (when a car pulled out in front of me) and the battery didn't depart the tray. Good enough for me. But, hey -- if you have the clamp on your battery tray, snug it down. I don't currently have that option and don't plan to spend any $$$ to resolve that issue. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Fiji III, 1969 - 1972 (geologist) On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We found a fijian store in Portland, OR that sells it. It's interesting, but I'd say it tastes like muddy water, other than the numbness/tingling. I'm sure I'd eventually began to like it if I drank as much as they apparently do in the villages! So which corps re-entry group were you in? I'd join if I could get my wife to go with me, but she's busy with graduate school. Tyler On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You will enjoy the kava once you get used to it. It looks like well- used dishwater but tastes like a blend of Lavoris and white pepper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorry to see this
My grandfather used to say he was, Pounding a coffin nail which he shortened to, pounding a nail. Those Lucky Strikes did him in. To this day I still refer to it as pounding a nail. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sorry to see this Growing up in the 50s, they were then referred to as Coffin Nails. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aug 13, 2008 Lime Rock Park was closed down for an hour and half today to honor Paul Newman. He was attended by his family, close friends, Skip Barber, mechanics on his race team, and those who happened to be at the track. PLN toured the track in his Corvette race car with his Buick V8 powered Volvo station wagon following. He had come to say goodbye. Diagnosed with terminal cancer he is not expected to live beyond September. Race driver, actor, humanitarian, family man and friend; they did not come any better. http://www.foxnews.http://wwwhttp://www.foxhttp:// ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
Appears that one of Lt. Wacko's clients has hacked into his email and is sending out some dangerous advice. Falls under the catagory...I ain't never had a fire so I don't need no fire insurance. We don't care if you bbq yourself, but what about the passengers? Geez, arguing over a 2.00 saftey item. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My battery hasn't shifted in (if I remember correctly) four years of 240D ownership. If I roll the car and the battery breaks loose, its welding itself to the hood is way down the list of my concerns. And yes, I have had to do several panic stops. Battery didn't move, or if it did, the cables rocked it in place (they are not excessively long). I am not saying that locking the battery down is a bad idea. I am simply saying that mine isn't and I've not experienced any ill effects. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...You're not actually securing this beast to the battery tray, are you? Mass alone keeps it in place. I've had my 240D for about three years now, and the battery is held in place by gravity and has not shifted. I have cobwebs as proof Your ass is held in the seat by gravity. Seat belt? Pah! RLE ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Stater interment
Quick and dirty starter test. Open the door so the dome light is on, try to start car and watch the dome light. If it does NOT dim, then the problem is at the ignition switch or the neutral safety switch. Next time it happens, try wiggling the gear shift or placing it in neutral. You might need to adjust the shift linkage, NSS, or install a new NSS. If the dome light does dim, then first check your battery (probably not the case here, since it will start later), and then check to see if the starter is in a bad position, seized, or has a bad solenoid. Sometimes bumping the car forward or backward while in gear will move it into a better position. Does this help? Luther George Larribeau wrote: Sometimes when I try to start my 300SD it does nothing, not even a click. When it happens If I try a few times it will start. At first I was convinced that is was the ignition switch because I never hear a click ( would think I could here the solenoid). And it always seamed that when it did this it would respond if I twisted the key on the next attempt than the previous one. However the last time this happened I could swear I herd click when I release the key on the first attempt. When it did not start. Normally I don't here a sound. Of course it has never persisted long enough to get a meter on the starter solenoid terminal.It has done it long enough one would think if it was the brushes going out it would have died by now .. George Larribeau Dallas Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorry to see this
The man is 83 years old and lived the life we can only dream about. We should all be so lucky.Some of us will go before our time due to a car fire caused by an unanchored battery. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Growing up in the 50s, they were then referred to as Coffin Nails. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aug 13, 2008 Lime Rock Park was closed down for an hour and half today to honor Paul Newman. He was attended by his family, close friends, Skip Barber, mechanics on his race team, and those who happened to be at the track. PLN toured the track in his Corvette race car with his Buick V8 powered Volvo station wagon following. He had come to say goodbye. Diagnosed with terminal cancer he is not expected to live beyond September. Race driver, actor, humanitarian, family man and friend; they did not come any better. http://www.foxnews.http://wwwhttp://www.foxhttp:// ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
What is the flash point of diesel? Ok, got it -- *Diesel varies between 126°F and 204°F. *Not anything to worry about. It isn't like it is a gasser. * *Once again, if I have an event that moves my battery, I will be too screwed up in a crash to worry about the battery. That said, if anyone wants to send me a $2 battery clamp-down piece of hardware, I will be happy to install it. By the way, John -- I also drive a motorcycle. I rarely wear a helmet - only on long rides in 55+ mph zones. I'm going to worry about diesel burning me up? D. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Appears that one of Lt. Wacko's clients has hacked into his email and is sending out some dangerous advice. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Stater interment
That is flight-ops-normal for my 240D. I don't even try PARK any more -- I pre-glow then drag the lever to NEUTRAL. Turn the key and drive away. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try wiggling the gear shift or placing it in neutral. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
Don typed: What is the flash point of diesel? Ok, got it -- *Diesel varies between 126°F and 204°F. Holy crapI have to worry about that daily then on my way to the old nuke plant while I drive through Hades. It felt 140 degrees today. BobR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Triumph? sighted
Driving home from Raleigh this afternoon, a beautifully restored red 'bout a '65, Triumph, I think it was, passed me at 75mph - lotsa hair blowing in the wind. 'Reminded me why I like an enclosed car. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live learn
The mechanic who was willing to do the work indicated that it would probably run terrible without the EGR connected. I took his word for it. Don't. My car, same model, same year, ran great without it. (Plate.) The 70's emission control stuff was messy, and crude. It's not running near the edges on anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorry to see this
I am way more likely to die in a motorcycle accident than I am to die due to an unanchored battery. I am only alive today due to a helmet (catastrophic 65 mph motorcycle crash 7/4/76) but yet still don't grab my Shoei helmet unless I am riding out of town. But hey -- what will happen will happen. If I obsessed about how I will pass away, I'd be on the other side of my work desk and would have to pass myself psychotropic meds (only OK Don knows what those are) at Monday lunchtime. Live hard, die young (missed that gate in the hurdles) and leave a good looking corpse (working daily on that part but gravity is catching up). Tell you what -- you prep your car and drive it, and I will prep my car and drive it. If I die due to a loose battery, you have the last laugh. And that would be very ironic given what I did for a living in the late '70s and my motorcycle riding habits since. D. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:55 PM, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The man is 83 years old and lived the life we can only dream about. We should all be so lucky.Some of us will go before our time due to a car fire caused by an unanchored battery. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Growing up in the 50s, they were then referred to as Coffin Nails. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aug 13, 2008 Lime Rock Park was closed down for an hour and half today to honor Paul Newman. He was attended by his family, close friends, Skip Barber, mechanics on his race team, and those who happened to be at the track. PLN toured the track in his Corvette race car with his Buick V8 powered Volvo station wagon following. He had come to say goodbye. Diagnosed with terminal cancer he is not expected to live beyond September. Race driver, actor, humanitarian, family man and friend; they did not come any better. http://www.foxnews.http://wwwhttp://www.foxhttp:// ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oblivious
If I roll the car and the battery breaks loose, its welding itself to the hood is way down the list of my concerns. I couldn't care less about the hood or the battery. But the fire it could start might cause me some concern. That reminds me: Some years ago I hit a patch of ice with the Camaro and ended up in a slow rollover off the side of the freeway in deep snow. (Car teetered a bit, then flopped over.) I drove it home, once the oil level was checked. A fire would have made me much more unhappy, as even a ruined battery would have. Is the bolt in the tray still there? It's just a nut and a piece of bent sheet metal. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Starter intermittent
There isn't much in the wiring diagram between the key and the starter. Just the ol' neutral safety switch. That and the big cables and the battery, there aren't too many things to diagnose and a voltmeter, correctly applied, will tell you everything you need to know whom to blame. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
