date:20090417


kevin kraly wrote:
28MPG is the best I've gotten with a '78 300CD.  This was during an 1100 
mile trip from Southern California to Hillsboro, Oregon with only 1 cold 
start (doable with 2 drivers).  We never stayed below 60 other than 
mountain passes.


You can get the same 28mpg with a 78-79 300SD (1300 miles, one cold start)
at 65-80mph without slowing down to climb the hills. But I did it from Florida 
to Michigan, and the steepest grade in Tennessee was something like 8-9%.
I floored it, and the car accelerated from 65-75, but the acceleration was not 
exactly brisk. A big cam 617 (1980 and later) would have had more power, but I'm 
not sure it would have the same fuel economy.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph

2009-04-17 Thread Ralph W

My parts wagon has a blue MB Tex interior. It is pretty picked over and
trashed at this point. The wagon is going to the salvage yard when I find
time to haul it out of my backyard.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM, andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

Ralph, please reminde me - what is the interior color on your parts car?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Ralph W wasserb...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Rich. I will have to give this some consideration. I wonder what
they
would charge to ship the engine to Detroit. $500? I figure with shipping
and
labor to install it I'm looking at $3000 to get the car on the road. Is
it
worth the risk. Maybe someone else wants to take this task on. It is my
wife's favorite diesel. I'll let you know if I need further help.

Ralph Wasserbaech
2001 E320 wagon
1990 300D
1987 300TD
1983 300CD
1983 300TD (parts car)

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

I went by the junkyard and the car is still there, quite nice looking
except for the missing wheels and 2 rt doors and the interior now
getting
ratty. Anyway, the guy says the price on the engine is $1750, won't
sell
just the head. He looks stuff up somewhere and says this is the
price.
He says it was a runner and he was going to sell it, but someone
wanted
the
doors to fix up another one, I did not see anything blowing out or
around.

I took a coupla pics on my phone (not real good) if you want to see the
car
and engine.

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[MBZ] Mileage

2009-04-17 Thread Dan Weeks


On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

You can get the same 28mpg with a 78-79 300SD (1300 miles, one cold  
start)
at 65-80mph without slowing down to climb the hills. But I did it  
from Florida
to Michigan, and the steepest grade in Tennessee was something like  
8-9%.
I floored it, and the car accelerated from 65-75, but the  
acceleration was not
exactly brisk. A big cam 617 (1980 and later) would have had more  
power, but I'm

not sure it would have the same fuel economy.


My Big Cam (82) 300 SD with three adults, a dog, and a cram-full trunk  
averaged 27.0 mpg running 1600 miles from Iowa to extreme downeast  
rural Maine with no cold starts. Average speed including stops to eat,  
pee, and walk the dog was 66 mph according to GPS. Much of the time on  
the highway, we were doing 80-85. 27 mpg highway is typical, tho  
before I adjusted the valves I was getting more like 25. This is with  
300+k miles on the clock.


Lowest I've ever gotten in the same car was the return trip, driving  
70 into a 30 mph westerly, with two 16' alden ocean rowing shells on  
racks on the roof. Their huge wind-catching cockpits, the roof racks,   
and the headwind pulled the average down to 22 mpg. In town my milage  
is always 24-26, even in the dead of an iowa winter and all short trips.


Dan
82 300SD, 313k miles




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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

There are a couple of ways. I've been fighting this for a while and think I 
have found the best solution for me -

which may not be *your* best solution.

Here's your best options (IMO):
1. (What I am doing) - Using a new 500GB Hard drive (~$100)  for my laptop 
(I could use the 250GB HD that came with the laptop but this gives me more 
room  I can use the smaller HD as a ext HD) , I will install Vista with the 
Recovery Discs, then install XP on a seperate partition.  I will use a 3rd 
partition for my data files.  This is the best solution because I don't have 
to find the HD Driver (and others) for my new Toshiba laptop.  Problem is, a 
XP driver for my Toshiba components may not even exist!  You'll need 3GB for 
XP and 20GB for Vista.  Since I have data on my 250GB Hard Drive I'll use a 
HD Docking station I have ($30) to copy/share files between the 250  500 
HDs.


2. Here's another less desirable (IMHO) option.  On a seperate PC, download 
nLite (free) software.  Locate the HD driver (and drivers for all other 
components in your new computer) and place them in a temp folder on your 
borrowed PC.  Run nLite which will use your XP install discs to place a copy 
of XP Installation on your borrrowed PC.  nLite will then integrate the 
drivers into the files of the XP installation folder.  Now you can copy the 
new XP files containing the drivers onto a CD.  Use that CD/s to install XP 
on your computer and hope you have the correct drivers.


It's more complex to describe than to do but the problem is still finding 
the proper drivers.  I started to try this but feel the 1st option will be 
more likely to work.


Using option 1 you can start up on Vista then switch to XP once the computer 
is running.  This is called a Dual Boot System and is very common.  \


HTHs
LarryT
91 300D

- Original Message - 
From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM
Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer


If you do figure out how to get back to XP let me know. My daughter has a 
new HP laptop that she wants to go back to XP on. Problem is HP doesn't 
provide any drivers for the computer that will work with XP. Since she 
uses the computer for relaxation (games). Linux won't work because the 
games she wants to run won't run on Linux. or is there some way to install 
XP in Linux and have the Linux drivers run the computer? How much would 
that slow things down because she has the games turned down to medium to 
low detail just to run them now. Any slow down and you might as well 
forget about playing.


Manfred



Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:47:36 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE:  OT -new computer

Hi Tim -
Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in
performance.  You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt
it,.

You're right about the configuration - presently the Ext HD is shown as a
drive in the desktop.   And when on the desktop I see it like that - it
shows the 2 HDs in the puter and the 3rd as C, D, E  F and H as the ext. 
I
use software called Network Magic which makes things nuch easier to set 
up.
I had tried unsuccessfuly to set up the LAN so I could print (printer 
hooked

to desktop) with the laptop - followed the instructions but still it said
No!  But NM configured it perfectly.  Until my new laptop added Vista to 
the
mess.  But that too can be fixed. once I get rid of Vista and install 
XP

again.

Thx agn

Take care --
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

Speaking of mileage.  Our '91 300D 2.5T has been a wonderful car.  Once I 
took care of the few  minor glitches left from a PO it has become basically 
a new car.  I hope I can find another as good someday.


We keep complte records of our mileage.  Over the past 6 months or so we've 
been getting 28-30mpg.  However, a recent fillup gave over 32 mpg.  I'm not 
complaining about 32 but I am wondering why we got that'  We've only seen 32 
once or twice before in our 3 years of ownership.


I can see 28-30 being attributed to driving style - I tend to drive it a 
little harder than my wife.  But generally, our driving is a constant mix of 
highway, city, her and me.  I especially wonder about the 28-32 gap - that's 
a difference of  14.3%.   Would the fuel formulation (Winter/Summer) account 
for that difference?  Or is that driving style also?


Thanks gang!

- Original Message - 
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage


Her fully packed 1985 300CD hit 29.5 mpg in hway driving averaging 70mph.
Never tested it empty...

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:


 ...I've? also driven a perfectly running 1977 300D automatic across the?
 country, and got ~25mpg

When my '78 300D had about 40K miles on it, I drove it one summer day from
San Mateo CA to Redding CA in about four hours at a steady 65-70 mph. All
Interstate and close to sea level. Fuel level was topped up to the same
level
on both ends of the trip.

28.5 mpg that trip and I'm convinced that's the best it could do. BTW, 
pump

timing was spot-on and the injectors were all perfect. Hell, my C300 3.0
V-6 can do better than that.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

2009-04-17 Thread Bob Rentfro

I can never get any better than 22 mpg in my '77 300Dever. Air on (when
it used to work), air off...loaded, empty...uphill, downhill...80 mph ave or
60 mph ave.
You all are, as Napoleon Dynamite would say, lucky.

Bob R

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:52 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

Speaking of mileage. Our '91 300D 2.5T has been a wonderful car. Once I
took care of the few minor glitches left from a PO it has become basically
a new car. I hope I can find another as good someday.

We keep complte records of our mileage. Over the past 6 months or so we've
been getting 28-30mpg. However, a recent fillup gave over 32 mpg. I'm not
complaining about 32 but I am wondering why we got that' We've only seen 32
once or twice before in our 3 years of ownership.

I can see 28-30 being attributed to driving style - I tend to drive it a
little harder than my wife. But generally, our driving is a constant mix of
highway, city, her and me. I especially wonder about the 28-32 gap - that's
a difference of 14.3%. Would the fuel formulation (Winter/Summer) account
for that difference? Or is that driving style also?

Thanks gang!

- Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

Her fully packed 1985 300CD hit 29.5 mpg in hway driving averaging 70mph.
Never tested it empty...

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...I've? also driven a perfectly running 1977 300D automatic across the?
country, and got ~25mpg

When my '78 300D had about 40K miles on it, I drove it one summer day from
San Mateo CA to Redding CA in about four hours at a steady 65-70 mph. All
Interstate and close to sea level. Fuel level was topped up to the same
level
on both ends of the trip.

28.5 mpg that trip and I'm convinced that's the best it could do. BTW,
pump
timing was spot-on and the injectors were all perfect. Hell, my C300 3.0
V-6 can do better than that.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Any ideas what might be wrong with this car?

2009-04-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


got to pull the dash etc I believe

Thomas Savage wrote:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1124564708.html

Might be a decent deal at a Kaleb price.  Heater core is a big deal on a 
W201, no?


Tom

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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, 
so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of 
software.  In practical use, i consider 20gb to be the practical min 
drive size whether you are using 2000 Pro, xp Pro, or Wissta.


When Wissta was released, Fully updated and patched 2000 Pro, XP Pro 
and Wissta all took about 7.5 to 8 Gb of storage.   I found that to 
be quite interesting.  considering they are all built on the 2000 
code base, i didn't find it surprising.  I just retired a workstation 
that originally had 2000Pro installed og a 4 gb partition, which was 
plenty of space.  Then i had to replace the drive with a 10 gb 
partition for the OS, then I had to replace the OS partition with 
20GB to handle SP2 and the software I had installed.I don't 
believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.

HTH

At 09:18 AM 4/17/2009, you wrote:
There are a couple of ways. I've been fighting this for a while and 
think I have found the best solution for me -

which may not be *your* best solution.

Here's your best options (IMO):
1. (What I am doing) - Using a new 500GB Hard drive (~$100)  for my 
laptop (I could use the 250GB HD that came with the laptop but this 
gives me more room  I can use the smaller HD as a ext HD) , I will 
install Vista with the Recovery Discs, then install XP on a seperate 
partition.  I will use a 3rd partition for my data files.  This is 
the best solution because I don't have to find the HD Driver (and 
others) for my new Toshiba laptop.  Problem is, a XP driver for my 
Toshiba components may not even exist!  You'll need 3GB for XP and 
20GB for Vista.  Since I have data on my 250GB Hard Drive I'll use a 
HD Docking station I have ($30) to copy/share files between the 250  500 HDs.


2. Here's another less desirable (IMHO) option.  On a seperate PC, 
download nLite (free) software.  Locate the HD driver (and drivers 
for all other components in your new computer) and place them in a 
temp folder on your borrowed PC.  Run nLite which will use your XP 
install discs to place a copy of XP Installation on your borrrowed 
PC.  nLite will then integrate the drivers into the files of the 
XP installation folder.  Now you can copy the new XP files 
containing the drivers onto a CD.  Use that CD/s to install XP on 
your computer and hope you have the correct drivers.


It's more complex to describe than to do but the problem is still 
finding the proper drivers.  I started to try this but feel the 1st 
option will be more likely to work.


Using option 1 you can start up on Vista then switch to XP once the 
computer is running.  This is called a Dual Boot System and is 
very common.  \


HTHs
LarryT
91 300D

- Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM
Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer


If you do figure out how to get back to XP let me know. My daughter 
has a new HP laptop that she wants to go back to XP on. Problem is 
HP doesn't provide any drivers for the computer that will work with 
XP. Since she uses the computer for relaxation (games). Linux won't 
work because the games she wants to run won't run on Linux. or is 
there some way to install XP in Linux and have the Linux drivers 
run the computer? How much would that slow things down because she 
has the games turned down to medium to low detail just to run them 
now. Any slow down and you might as well forget about playing.


Manfred



Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:47:36 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE:  OT -new computer

Hi Tim -
Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in
performance.  You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt
it,.

You're right about the configuration - presently the Ext HD is shown as a
drive in the desktop.   And when on the desktop I see it like that - it
shows the 2 HDs in the puter and the 3rd as C, D, E  F and H as the ext. I
use software called Network Magic which makes things nuch easier to set up.
I had tried unsuccessfuly to set up the LAN so I could print (printer hooked
to desktop) with the laptop - followed the instructions but still it said
No!  But NM configured it perfectly.  Until my new laptop added Vista to the
mess.  But that too can be fixed. once I get rid of Vista and install XP
again.

Thx agn

Take care --
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

Thx Loren for the info about req'd disc space needed to install XP and 
Vista -  - I was using info provided by a Microsoft Help technician - 
naturally she was wrong. ;-\

Thx agn
- Original Message - 
From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, so 
IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of software.  In 
practical use, i consider 20gb to be the practical min drive size whether 
you are using 2000 Pro, xp Pro, or Wissta.

When Wissta was released, Fully updated and patched 2000 Pro, XP Pro and 
Wissta all took about 7.5 to 8 Gb of storage.   I found that to be quite 
interesting.  considering they are all built on the 2000 code base, i 
didn't find it surprising.  I just retired a workstation that originally 
had 2000Pro installed og a 4 gb partition, which was plenty of space. 
Then i had to replace the drive with a 10 gb partition for the OS, then I 
had to replace the OS partition with 20GB to handle SP2 and the software I 
had installed.I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.

HTH

At 09:18 AM 4/17/2009, you wrote:
There are a couple of ways. I've been fighting this for a while and think 
I have found the best solution for me -

which may not be *your* best solution.

Here's your best options (IMO):
1. (What I am doing) - Using a new 500GB Hard drive (~$100)  for my laptop 
(I could use the 250GB HD that came with the laptop but this gives me more 
room  I can use the smaller HD as a ext HD) , I will install Vista with 
the Recovery Discs, then install XP on a seperate partition.  I will use a 
3rd partition for my data files.  This is the best solution because I 
don't have to find the HD Driver (and others) for my new Toshiba laptop. 
Problem is, a XP driver for my Toshiba components may not even exist! 
You'll need 3GB for XP and 20GB for Vista.  Since I have data on my 250GB 
Hard Drive I'll use a HD Docking station I have ($30) to copy/share files 
between the 250  500 HDs.

2. Here's another less desirable (IMHO) option.  On a seperate PC, 
download nLite (free) software.  Locate the HD driver (and drivers for all 
other components in your new computer) and place them in a temp folder on 
your borrowed PC.  Run nLite which will use your XP install discs to place 
a copy of XP Installation on your borrrowed PC.  nLite will then 
integrate the drivers into the files of the XP installation folder.  Now 
you can copy the new XP files containing the drivers onto a CD.  Use that 
CD/s to install XP on your computer and hope you have the correct drivers.

It's more complex to describe than to do but the problem is still finding 
the proper drivers.  I started to try this but feel the 1st option will be 
more likely to work.

Using option 1 you can start up on Vista then switch to XP once the 
computer is running.  This is called a Dual Boot System and is very 
common.  \

HTHs
LarryT
91 300D

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:13 AM
Subject: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

If you do figure out how to get back to XP let me know. My daughter has a 
new HP laptop that she wants to go back to XP on. Problem is HP doesn't 
provide any drivers for the computer that will work with XP. Since she 
uses the computer for relaxation (games). Linux won't work because the 
games she wants to run won't run on Linux. or is there some way to 
install XP in Linux and have the Linux drivers run the computer? How much 
would that slow things down because she has the games turned down to 
medium to low detail just to run them now. Any slow down and you might as 
well forget about playing.

Manfred

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:47:36 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE:  OT -new computer

Hi Tim -
Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in
performance.  You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt
it,.

You're right about the configuration - presently the Ext HD is shown as a
drive in the desktop.   And when on the desktop I see it like that - it
shows the 2 HDs in the puter and the 3rd as C, D, E  F and H as the ext. 
I
use software called Network Magic which makes things nuch easier to set 
up.
I had tried unsuccessfuly to set up the LAN so I could print (printer 
hooked

to desktop) with the laptop - followed the instructions but still it said
No!  But NM configured it perfectly.  Until my new laptop added Vista to 
the
mess.  But that too can be fixed. once I get rid of Vista and install 
XP

again.

Thx agn

Take care --
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage


Hey Bob -
Our 78 240D with completely new/rebuilt engine (still perfect after 50k 
miles) gets 22-24mpg's - no matter what - just like you.  AC on or off - 
doesn;t matter - very high speed ;-) does matter some - I can run 75 easily 
now that the engine has ben reblt and  mileage suffers *very* little.


Its an awesome car - love those W123s  built like a tank.  I wonder why MB 
didn;t go to a galvanized (sort of) steel treatment like Porsche did in '75?


It would have kept a lot more W123s on the road!

LarryT
91 300D

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage


I can never get any better than 22 mpg in my '77 300Dever. Air on (when
it used to work), air off...loaded, empty...uphill, downhill...80 mph ave or
60 mph ave.
You all are, as Napoleon Dynamite would say, lucky.

Bob R

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:52 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:


Speaking of mileage.  Our '91 300D 2.5T has been a wonderful car.  Once I
took care of the few  minor glitches left from a PO it has become 
basically

a new car.  I hope I can find another as good someday.

We keep complte records of our mileage.  Over the past 6 months or so 
we've
been getting 28-30mpg.  However, a recent fillup gave over 32 mpg.  I'm 
not
complaining about 32 but I am wondering why we got that'  We've only seen 
32

once or twice before in our 3 years of ownership.

I can see 28-30 being attributed to driving style - I tend to drive it a
little harder than my wife.  But generally, our driving is a constant mix 
of
highway, city, her and me.  I especially wonder about the 28-32 gap - 
that's
a difference of  14.3%.   Would the fuel formulation (Winter/Summer) 
account

for that difference?  Or is that driving style also?

Thanks gang!

- Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage


Her fully packed 1985 300CD hit 29.5 mpg in hway driving averaging 70mph.
Never tested it empty...

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 ...I've? also driven a perfectly running 1977 300D automatic across the?

 country, and got ~25mpg

When my '78 300D had about 40K miles on it, I drove it one summer day 
from

San Mateo CA to Redding CA in about four hours at a steady 65-70 mph. All
Interstate and close to sea level. Fuel level was topped up to the same
level
on both ends of the trip.

28.5 mpg that trip and I'm convinced that's the best it could do. BTW,
pump
timing was spot-on and the injectors were all perfect. Hell, my C300 3.0
V-6 can do better than that.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

2009-04-17 Thread R A Bennell

Best I have managed with the 76 115 300D is about 26.5 mpg (adjusted to US 
gallon). 

On average, over the past 10K miles is 21 but a lot of it is in town.

Randy

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage


28MPG is the best I've gotten with a '78 300CD.  This was during an 1100 
mile trip from Southern California to Hillsboro, Oregon with only 1 cold 
start (doable with 2 drivers).  We never stayed below 60 other than mountain 
passes.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

2009-04-17 Thread Curt Raymond

Strange, my 240D got 28mpg overall, low was like 24mpg...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:17:17 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Hey Bob -
Our 78 240D with completely new/rebuilt engine (still perfect after 50k 
miles) gets 22-24mpg's - no matter what - just like you.  AC on or off - 
doesn;t matter - very high speed ;-) does matter some - I can run 75 easily 
now that the engine has ben reblt and  mileage suffers *very* little.

Its an awesome car - love those W123s  built like a tank.  I wonder why MB 
didn;t go to a galvanized (sort of) steel treatment like Porsche did in '75?

It would have kept a lot more W123s on the road!

LarryT
91 300D

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[MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of white 
robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they want to 
create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance records, 
hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything else! 
Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest idea.  Sure, 
it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the expense of 
patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of credit card 
information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away, lost or 
stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out there for all to 
see is even worse IMHO.


Yet here they are, all those IBM technicians proudly boasting they are 
working toward the goal of total integration of

your life's total body of information.

Am I being too paranoid?  I mean, I don't have to worry about finding a job 
anymore, but someone with a family history of heart disease or cancer  may 
not get hired if that info is readily available.


It seems the govt wants to eventually create an electronic record of each 
person in this world -- driving records, working reccords, health records, 
tax records, family records, - everything.  Sure sounds like 1984 to me. 
Loss of pivacy is one thing - having faceless bureaucrats crawling through 
every facet of my families' life is not something I want happening.  It may 
surprise you to learn they're not ALL honest.


The computer has brought us great convienence but it has the ability to 
cause great harm also.


LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records


LarryT wrote:
want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance 
records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to 
everything else! 


1984 is so quarter century ago. It's a Brave New World out there.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Thomas

There is no privacy any more. Get over it.

*Scott McNealy Chairman and Co-Founder, Sun Microsystems
(http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/executives/mcnealy/bio.jsp )

*Jan 1998 or so, Lotusphere, Orlando FL*

--R

LarryT wrote:
Just saw a disturbing TV commercial (History Channel) where dozens of
white robed technicans talk about what they are working on. Seems
they want to create a huge database that puts medical records,
insurance records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks
to everything else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like
the greatest idea. Sure, it may make the insurance business more
profitible, but at the expense of patient privacy! We've had a
regular diet of reports of credit card information being lost or
stolen when hard drives are given away, lost or stolen. That's *very*
bad. But medical records being out there for all to see is even worse
IMHO.

Yet here they are, all those IBM technicians proudly boasting they are
working toward the goal of total integration of

your life's total body of information.

Am I being too paranoid? I mean, I don't have to worry about finding
a job anymore, but someone with a family history of heart disease or
cancer may not get hired if that info is readily available.

It seems the govt wants to eventually create an electronic record of
each person in this world -- driving records, working reccords, health
records, tax records, family records, - everything. Sure sounds like
1984 to me. Loss of pivacy is one thing - having faceless bureaucrats
crawling through every facet of my families' life is not something I
want happening. It may surprise you to learn they're not ALL honest.

The computer has brought us great convienence but it has the ability
to cause great harm also.

LarryT
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Oil Analysis at youroil.net.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

We are already living in an Orwellian Animal Farm  The events of the 
past 80 -180 days prove it.


At 12:02 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

LarryT wrote:
want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance 
records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to 
everything else!


1984 is so quarter century ago. It's a Brave New World out there.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph

2009-04-17 Thread Ralph W

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.netwrote:


 Ralph,
 Are the wagon's back doors (left and right) any good.  I have a 1982 300TD
 I
 am rebuilding and need a couple of rust free doors.
 Thanks,
 Mike


My parts wagon is pretty much a rust bucket. I could only help with things
like glass and hardware.

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[MBZ] The Autobahn on History Channel

The History Channel runs a series called Modern Marvels  - the program 
called Autobahn which will be on again this evening (Fri) at 7PM Eastern 
time.


The opening has a RUF Porsche 911 going to the limit - evidently German 
tuners must certify the top speed advertised will actually be met.


Hmm.. where do I apply? ;-)

They also have video of a SL flipping over several times from high speed. 
When the Mercedes stopped rolling the occupants crawled out and staggered to 
the nearby hill.


Anyway - they go over the history and construction of the highway as well as 
the controls in place and police coverage.  BTW, tickets are based on the 
drivers income.  (So, I guess poor people can drive really fast and pay 
really small tickets?) ;-p


It's a program well worth watching -- IMO at least.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread Rick Knoble

Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of 
white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they 
want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance 
records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything 
else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest idea. 
Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the 
expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of credit 
card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away, 
lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out there 
for all to see is even worse IMHO.


http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff anymore. 
I don't think anyone believes it's real.


Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread Tom Hargrave

One of my software clients is the local Mental Health Center. Some
impressive software is already available for digitizing  automating medical
records. It's just a matter of time until all medical records are digital 
stored in a national database for all physicians to access (with your
permission).

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

 Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of 
 white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they 
 want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance 
 records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything 
 else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest idea.

 Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the 
 expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of credit

 card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away, 
 lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out there 
 for all to see is even worse IMHO.

http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff anymore.

I don't think anyone believes it's real.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 


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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:22:10 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com
wrote:

 A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb, 
 so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of 
 software I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.

In setting up recent XP systems at work, I have given the OS a 20 GB
partition. I have a 10 GB partition on my work laptop and have to juggle
stuff around to keep it empty enough to defragment easily.

About the running of unpatched MS software, I'll be much stronger:


 It is absolutely stupid and foolhardy to run unpatched MS software.


If there weren't jillions of people doing that, we wouldn't have all the
spam, denial of service, zombie robot network, and other problems we have
now.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

(and political hacks, the local shire riff the po lice and other rif 
raff to access at will without permission)


Just remember how few hours it was before Joe the plum ber's complete 
history was all over the me dia, including his private I RS records.


At 01:59 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

One of my software clients is the local Mental Health Center. Some
impressive software is already available for digitizing  automating medical
records. It's just a matter of time until all medical records are digital 
stored in a national database for all physicians to access (with your
permission).

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

 Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of
 white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they
 want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance
 records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything
 else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest idea.

 Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the
 expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of credit

 card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away,
 lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out there
 for all to see is even worse IMHO.

http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff anymore.

I don't think anyone believes it's real.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

I agree that 20 Gb is a practical Min size for Windows OS.  7.6 GB 
for the install leaves less than 25% free space on a 10 gb partition, 
and is a ticking time bomb.  There are clever ways to do minimalist 
installs, but that is another matter and not for the faint of 
heart.  IN my experience, Chinese grad students are experts ant 
minimal installs.


I fully agree with your statement about running unpatched MS 
products, not just windows.  I just was not as forthright



At 02:07 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:22:10 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com
wrote:

 A fully patched and updated xp copy takes something like 7.5.to 8 gb,
 so IMHO, it takes at least 10 GB for XP without a lot of
 software I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.

In setting up recent XP systems at work, I have given the OS a 20 GB
partition. I have a 10 GB partition on my work laptop and have to juggle
stuff around to keep it empty enough to defragment easily.

About the running of unpatched MS software, I'll be much stronger:


 It is absolutely stupid and foolhardy to run unpatched MS software.


If there weren't jillions of people doing that, we wouldn't have all the
spam, denial of service, zombie robot network, and other problems we have
now.


Craig

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[MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue

2009-04-17 Thread Glenn Brown

Triplett 630-APL VOM

G. M. Brown
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[MBZ] pulsing brakes after sitting

2009-04-17 Thread Allan Streib

So my 300D was parked a few weeks waiting on fuel filter O-rings.  As luck 
would have it, we had a lot of rain during that time.

Now my brakes are pulsing, I assumed it was just a rusty patch on the rotors 
where it was sitting and that it would clear up quickly, but it has been a few 
days and not really improved much.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread Tom Hargrave

I did not say I agreed with it, I just stated where things are going.

There are benefits.

What if you have a chronic condition - let's say congestive heart failure,
you are traveling and have an accident. You are hauled into the ER and they
have to know what medications not to give you. For example, if they give you
the wrong stuff, you could die in the ER from heart failure or internal
bleeding.

With an on-line system, the attending physician can pull up your records and
adjust your treatment accordingly.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924
 

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On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

(and political hacks, the local shire riff the po lice and other rif 
raff to access at will without permission)

Just remember how few hours it was before Joe the plum ber's complete 
history was all over the me dia, including his private I RS records.

At 01:59 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:
One of my software clients is the local Mental Health Center. Some
impressive software is already available for digitizing  automating
medical
records. It's just a matter of time until all medical records are digital 
stored in a national database for all physicians to access (with your
permission).

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924


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On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

  Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of
  white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they
  want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance
  records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to
everything
  else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest
idea.

  Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the
  expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of
credit

  card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away,
  lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out there
  for all to see is even worse IMHO.

http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff
anymore.

I don't think anyone believes it's real.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:32:39 -0400 Glenn Brown gmb010...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Triplett 630-APL VOM

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A good old standby. But it still may mis-calibrated.


Craig

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[MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue

2009-04-17 Thread glenn brown


Boy, do I feel even stupider!  After so many of you suggested that either my 
meter readings may have been low or there may be a problem with the charging 
system in my '84 300D, I checked/zeroed my Triplett meter and after zeroing the 
meter the new battery voltage at the battery terminals with the car off = 
12.3VDC, and when the car is idling = 13.5VDC.

 

G. M. Brown

Brevard, NC

 

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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue



A new, fully charged battery should read 12.7-12.8 no load. At 12.3 it's either 
half charged or seeing a bigger draw than the clock and the radio memory should 
put on it. 13.5 charging is a bit low, but the older MBZ had their voltage 
regulators set low, I think 13.5-14.0 is normal.
When estimating to a tenth of a volt, you're using the mirror on the meter to 
eliminate parallax error, right?


Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT - New computer

2009-04-17 Thread WILTON

'Rcvd a 3.5 USB 2. HD enclosure via UPS early this afternoon.  'Removed HD from 
my old Win 98 computer and installed it in the enclosure.  'Plugged the USB 
plug into my new Vista computer; it recognozed the old HD immediately.  'Just 
transferred bunch of files from old to new that I had not done in last few days 
via flash drive.  This arrangement (making the old HD a part of the new 
computer sure makes tranferring files easy - folders displayed on the screen 
side-by-side, etc.  BTW, can I transfer WORKABLE APPLICATIONS/PROGRAMS in this 
mannner; i.e., by merely transferring an applicatrion or program from the old 
HD, can/should I expect it to work on the new one?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer


WILTON wrote:

 by merely transferring an applicatrion or program from the old HD, can/should 
I expect it to work on the new one?


Unlikely, unless you can also transfer the Registry keys that go with them.

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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

2009-04-17 Thread OK Don

I hate (not really) to set Kaleb off again, but the '92 300D 2.5T has been
driven 7595 miles since I got it, and I've burnt 227.2 gallons driving those
miles. They are a mix of commuting to work and highway. That's 32.4 mpg. The
'90 gets about 1 mpg less.


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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue

2009-04-17 Thread OK Don

I wonder how accurate those $2 - $5 Harborfreight DVOMs are -- guess I
should get one and see. I have an ExtechEX330 and a Knightkit VTVM to
compare to.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:

 On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:32:39 -0400 Glenn Brown gmb010...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Triplett 630-APL VOM

 
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 A good old standby. But it still may mis-calibrated.


 Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

Hmmm remember the Va Tech shootings 2 years ago yesterday?  The govt 
claimed they had no knowledge of the killers mental state and thus had 
allowed his firearms purchases to go thru.


So, now they are asking for more power to collect medical records to use 
during firearms purchase background checks.


Doesn;t sound like they're being completely honest.  I guess that's par for 
the course.  Now you know why I am so much against additional firearms 
restrictions.  The govt cannot be trusted.  Doesn't matter if they are Dems 
or Republicans - they are All crooks.


LarryT

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records



One of my software clients is the local Mental Health Center. Some
impressive software is already available for digitizing  automating 
medical
records. It's just a matter of time until all medical records are digital 


stored in a national database for all physicians to access (with your
permission).

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924


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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records


Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of
white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they
want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance
records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything
else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest 
idea.



Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the
expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of 
credit



card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away,
lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out there
for all to see is even worse IMHO.


http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff 
anymore.


I don't think anyone believes it's real.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

Or, you could keep a laminated card in your wallet/around your neck with the 
same info.


And you;re going to say, but that laminated card can get lost - so can 
whatever will connect their med records
to that person.  Unless we are planning to implant some kind of GPS/bar 
code?


Sometimes, the answer to a problem can be worse than the problem.

LarryT

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records



I did not say I agreed with it, I just stated where things are going.

There are benefits.

What if you have a chronic condition - let's say congestive heart failure,
you are traveling and have an accident. You are hauled into the ER and 
they
have to know what medications not to give you. For example, if they give 
you

the wrong stuff, you could die in the ER from heart failure or internal
bleeding.

With an on-line system, the attending physician can pull up your records 
and

adjust your treatment accordingly.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924


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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

(and political hacks, the local shire riff the po lice and other rif
raff to access at will without permission)

Just remember how few hours it was before Joe the plum ber's complete
history was all over the me dia, including his private I RS records.

At 01:59 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

One of my software clients is the local Mental Health Center. Some
impressive software is already available for digitizing  automating

medical
records. It's just a matter of time until all medical records are digital 


stored in a national database for all physicians to access (with your
permission).

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924


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On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

 Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of
 white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they
 want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance
 records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to

everything

 else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest

idea.


 Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the
 expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of

credit


 card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away,
 lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out 
 there

 for all to see is even worse IMHO.

http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff

anymore.


I don't think anyone believes it's real.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer

If you downloaded a program and saved that download,  you can install it 
again, most likely.  If a program was installed from CDs it's doubtful.  The 
registry would need to be modified and those changes are done during 
installation.


But yes, it's very easy to backup files, photos, docs, etc by merely 
cut/paste or copy/paste.


Once  you;re sure there's nothing in the Windows folder you need, you can 
get 10-20gb of space by deleting those files.  But there's a lot of stuff in 
there - make sure there's nothing you want.  Like images..


Good luck -

LArryT


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To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - New computer


'Rcvd a 3.5 USB 2. HD enclosure via UPS early this afternoon.  'Removed HD 
from my old Win 98 computer and installed it in the enclosure.  'Plugged 
the USB plug into my new Vista computer; it recognozed the old HD 
immediately.  'Just transferred bunch of files from old to new that I had 
not done in last few days via flash drive.  This arrangement (making the 
old HD a part of the new computer sure makes tranferring files easy - 
folders displayed on the screen side-by-side, etc.  BTW, can I transfer 
WORKABLE APPLICATIONS/PROGRAMS in this mannner; i.e., by merely 
transferring an applicatrion or program from the old HD, can/should I 
expect it to work on the new one?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

I know it's difficult to put toothpaste back in the tube, but to give up 
will ensure it never gets

put back.

Tell Mr. McNealey he's part of the problem not the solution.  Hello, he was 
probably paid handsomely to

datamine al those records.

LarryT


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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records



There is no privacy any more.  Get over it.


 *Scott McNealy  Chairman and Co-Founder, Sun Microsystems 
(http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/executives/mcnealy/bio.jsp  )

 *


 *Jan 1998 or so, Lotusphere, Orlando FL*

--R

LarryT wrote:
Just saw a disturbing TV  commercial (History Channel) where dozens of 
white robed technicans talk about what they are working on.  Seems they 
want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance 
records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything 
else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest 
idea.  Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at 
the expense of patient privacy!  We've had a regular diet of reports of 
credit card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given 
away, lost or stolen.  That's *very* bad.  But medical records being out 
there for all to see is even worse IMHO.


Yet here they are, all those IBM technicians proudly boasting they are 
working toward the goal of total integration of

your life's total body of information.

Am I being too paranoid?  I mean, I don't have to worry about finding a 
job anymore, but someone with a family history of heart disease or cancer 
may not get hired if that info is readily available.


It seems the govt wants to eventually create an electronic record of each 
person in this world -- driving records, working reccords, health 
records, tax records, family records, - everything.  Sure sounds like 
1984 to me. Loss of pivacy is one thing - having faceless bureaucrats 
crawling through every facet of my families' life is not something I want 
happening.  It may surprise you to learn they're not ALL honest.


The computer has brought us great convienence but it has the ability to 
cause great harm also.


LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Thomas


They seem to be fairly accurate, amazingly enough.

--R

OK Don wrote:

I wonder how accurate those $2 - $5 Harborfreight DVOMs are -- guess I
should get one and see. I have an ExtechEX330 and a Knightkit VTVM to
compare to.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:

  

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:32:39 -0400 Glenn Brown gmb010...@gmail.com
wrote:



Triplett 630-APL VOM
  

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Re: [MBZ] 300D mileage

2009-04-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

damn it!  I was just thinking not 5 minutes ago how I regret getting 
rid of that car, and my 91 that I had.  Darn it


OK Don wrote:

I hate (not really) to set Kaleb off again, but the '92 300D 2.5T has been
driven 7595 miles since I got it, and I've burnt 227.2 gallons driving those
miles. They are a mix of commuting to work and highway. That's 32.4 mpg. The
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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread MG

Thanks Larry, I'll forward this to my daughter as more options.

Manfred

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:18:20 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] QRe:  Ext HDD, was RE:  OT -new computer

There are a couple of ways. I've been fighting this for a while and think I
have found the best solution for me -
which may not be *your* best solution.

Here's your best options (IMO):
1. (What I am doing) - Using a new 500GB Hard drive (~$100)  for my laptop
(I could use the 250GB HD that came with the laptop but this gives me more
room  I can use the smaller HD as a ext HD) , I will install Vista with the
Recovery Discs, then install XP on a seperate partition.  I will use a 3rd
partition for my data files.  This is the best solution because I don't have
to find the HD Driver (and others) for my new Toshiba laptop.  Problem is, a
XP driver for my Toshiba components may not even exist!  You'll need 3GB for
XP and 20GB for Vista.  Since I have data on my 250GB Hard Drive I'll use a
HD Docking station I have ($30) to copy/share files between the 250  500
HDs.

2. Here's another less desirable (IMHO) option.  On a seperate PC, download
nLite (free) software.  Locate the HD driver (and drivers for all other
components in your new computer) and place them in a temp folder on your
borrowed PC.  Run nLite which will use your XP install discs to place a copy
of XP Installation on your borrrowed PC.  nLite will then integrate the
drivers into the files of the XP installation folder.  Now you can copy the
new XP files containing the drivers onto a CD.  Use that CD/s to install XP
on your computer and hope you have the correct drivers.

It's more complex to describe than to do but the problem is still finding
the proper drivers.  I started to try this but feel the 1st option will be
more likely to work.

Using option 1 you can start up on Vista then switch to XP once the computer
is running.  This is called a Dual Boot System and is very common.  \

HTHs
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels

2009-04-17 Thread RELNGSON

I can never get any better than 22 mpg in my '77 300Dever. Air on 
(when
 it used to work), air off...loaded, empty...uphill, downhill...80 mph ave 
 or
 60 mph ave. You all are, as Napoleon Dynamite would say, lucky...
 
Luck does not come into it. Your 32 year old car needs something. Perhaps 
cam or pump timing and certainly injectors. or it might just be all wore out.

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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue


I wonder how accurate those $2 - $5 Harborfreight DVOMs are -- guess I
should get one and see. I have an ExtechEX330 and a Knightkit VTVM to
compare to.


Surprisingly accurate, one would think.  Where they suck is
in build quality, and speed of reading.  And maybe in areas
where the input voltage is not particularly steady.  Areas
where my Flukes kick butt, incidentally.

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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue


Triplett 630-APL VOM


Even re-zeroed, your voltages sound a tad low.

I was appalled, once upon a time, when I checked my VTVM
against my new (then) Fluke.  It was _way_ off.

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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer


I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.


I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] OT: Philosophy


A quote my wife sent me:

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways---Chardonnay in one hand, chocolate in the other,
body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO,
What a Ride!'

Sounds good to me.

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Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels

2009-04-17 Thread Peter Frederick


Or dragging rear brakes or a slipping odometer...

Peter

On Apr 17, 2009, at 8:00 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

I can never get any better than 22 mpg in my '77 300Dever.  
Air on

(when
it used to work), air off...loaded, empty...uphill, downhill...80  
mph ave

or
60 mph ave. You all are, as Napoleon Dynamite would say, lucky...

Luck does not come into it. Your 32 year old car needs something.  
Perhaps
cam or pump timing and certainly injectors. or it might just be all  
wore out.


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Re: [MBZ] No preglow indicator lite, no start - epilogue

Seem to be ok for general stuff.  NO good on glow plug resistance, 
just like any cheap meter.  Pretty good for the price overall!


At 06:04 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

I wonder how accurate those $2 - $5 Harborfreight DVOMs are -- guess I
should get one and see. I have an ExtechEX330 and a Knightkit VTVM to
compare to.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:

 On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:32:39 -0400 Glenn Brown gmb010...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Triplett 630-APL VOM

 
 
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 A good old standby. But it still may mis-calibrated.


 Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Philosophy

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Thomas


I think I was like that last Saturday night.

--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

A quote my wife sent me:

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways---Chardonnay in one hand, chocolate in the other,
body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO,
What a Ride!'

Sounds good to me.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread Gary Hurst

no, they will use it against you in all kinds of ways. anything that is
known about you can and will be when the opportunity arises. no one is
going to ask for your permission.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:15 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

Hmmm remember the Va Tech shootings 2 years ago yesterday? The govt
claimed they had no knowledge of the killers mental state and thus had
allowed his firearms purchases to go thru.

So, now they are asking for more power to collect medical records to use
during firearms purchase background checks.

Doesn;t sound like they're being completely honest. I guess that's par for
the course. Now you know why I am so much against additional firearms
restrictions. The govt cannot be trusted. Doesn't matter if they are Dems
or Republicans - they are All crooks.

LarryT

- Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

One of my software clients is the local Mental Health Center. Some
impressive software is already available for digitizing automating
medical
records. It's just a matter of time until all medical records are digital

stored in a national database for all physicians to access (with your
permission).

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
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On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

Just saw a disturbing TV commercial (History Channel) where dozens of
white robed technicans talk about what they are working on. Seems they
want to create a huge database that puts medical records, insurance
records, hospital records, etc etc where *everything* talks to everything
else! Don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like the greatest
idea.

Sure, it may make the insurance business more profitible, but at the
expense of patient privacy! We've had a regular diet of reports of
credit

card information being lost or stolen when hard drives are given away,
lost or stolen. That's *very* bad. But medical records being out there
for all to see is even worse IMHO.

http://solari.com/archive/databeast

Here yak go. Believe it or don't. I don't bother posting this stuff
anymore.

I don't think anyone believes it's real.

Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels

2009-04-17 Thread Gary Hurst

i've owned a half a dozen of these cars and none have done better on average
than 23

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Or dragging rear brakes or a slipping odometer...

 Peter


 On Apr 17, 2009, at 8:00 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  I can never get any better than 22 mpg in my '77 300Dever. Air on
 (when

 it used to work), air off...loaded, empty...uphill, downhill...80 mph ave
 or
 60 mph ave. You all are, as Napoleon Dynamite would say, lucky...

  Luck does not come into it. Your 32 year old car needs something.
 Perhaps
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 out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread drcscruggs

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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:49:44 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
wrote:

  I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.
 
 I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either.

Which I why I run Linux.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph

2009-04-17 Thread Michael E. Esh

Thanks Ralph,

If anyone else has line on back doors (left and right) for 1982 300TD please
let me know.

Thanks,
Mike

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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Michael E. Esh
michael...@charter.netwrote:


 Ralph,
 Are the wagon's back doors (left and right) any good.  I have a 1982 300TD
 I
 am rebuilding and need a couple of rust free doors.
 Thanks,
 Mike


My parts wagon is pretty much a rust bucket. I could only help with things
like glass and hardware.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - IBM Working to Integrate ALL Med Records

2009-04-17 Thread Mountain Man

Tom wrote:
 For example, if they give you
 the wrong stuff, you could die in the ER from heart failure or internal
 bleeding.

 With an on-line system, the attending physician can pull up your records and
 adjust your treatment accordingly.

The thing wrong with this wonderful provision is the assumption that
it will work in this manner.  It probably won't, and then you have
that bit of toothpaste out from the tube.

Let a few of us die with our privacy of information rather than have
some mindless machine house it for our benefit.

OTOH, what is wrong with any information about me/you?  Whether it
ever helps me/you, who cares what they know - they already know it
anyway - it is merely a semantics arguement.
mao

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[MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-17 Thread Ken Rushing

My son has an '87 420 SEL and once started, RPM's reach 2000 at idle within
4 seconds. The linkage isn't bound and does not appear to have even moved
once started. Where should I begin?
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Re: [MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-17 Thread OK Don

Which I wouldn't (and don't) run unpatched either. Patch everything!

   I don't believe it is wise to run unpatched MS software.
 
  I don't believe it is wise to run their _patched_ software, either.

 Which I why I run Linux.


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Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-17 Thread Peter Frederick

Idle control valve -- about have the size of a coke can, connected to  
the air meter horn boot at the rear of the manifold (bottom half,  
it's sorta buried).


Make sure it's connected and the hoses are intact.

You should also pull the codes from the computer to see what if any  
error codes are stored.


Peter

On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Ken Rushing wrote:

My son has an '87 420 SEL and once started, RPM's reach 2000 at  
idle within
4 seconds. The linkage isn't bound and does not appear to have even  
moved

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Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels

2009-04-17 Thread Bob Rentfro

It might need any or all of that stuff...it's using a quart of oil every 700
miles or so. Still goes and goes...

If the Jabulator gets no better than 23, mine sounds about right I suppose.

Bob R

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

I can never get any better than 22 mpg in my '77 300Dever. Air on
(when
it used to work), air off...loaded, empty...uphill, downhill...80 mph ave
or
60 mph ave. You all are, as Napoleon Dynamite would say, lucky...

Luck does not come into it. Your 32 year old car needs something. Perhaps
cam or pump timing and certainly injectors. or it might just be all wore
out.

RLE

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