Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
I misspoke, it was a sub-critical mass that would release a goop of energy the was measurable on the meters of the day. Still pretty heady stuff for the day. -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. On 9/25/2010 9:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Hm. Still sounds fishy to me. Nuclear fission in a critical mass happens on a timescale that makes the speed of the sphere falling through the donut hole a comparitive eternity. Peter T. Arnoldpm7...@comcast.net writes: I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole on the donut, for an instant you have a critical mass that will peg all the meters. Brilliant young men in the 40's This was Manhattan Project fun and game in the era, makes good reading. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Lots of positive feedback on the HF site for this item. On person did mention that the camera head was 18mm and not small enough to go through a spark plug hole. My personal favorite review of this: Excellent Product Review by Tim Leech Very good quality for the price. We use it for home colonoscopies and couldn't be more pleased Dan --- On Sun, 9/26/10, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010, 12:30 AM really close! http://www.etronixmart.com/supereyes-b002-200x-usb-digital-microscope-manual-focusing-p-572.html?osCsid=ad6129ad79c64a005cb54d3ab0bcb58b appears to be 7mm dia, with light. only problem is that it is twice what I'd be willing to spend. Some other time, it would be worth the price... For most of us, this is probably IT. I am just being a real cheapskate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:25:06 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole That doesn't conform to any definition of 'tickling' I'd think of. They did used to do it, or so I understand, but I think it was more like ootching slugs of metal near each other on a table. The donut description is more like that of an active bomb. Not much as a tabletop demonstration! I did some searching on the web and found that it was called, Tickling the dragon's tail. I found lots of references to the 'ootching slugs of metal near each other on a table' experiments that killed two people, the second of which was Louis Slotin. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin. I also found one reference to dropping material through holes. That also lists, in reverse chronological order, all of the criticality accidents to 30 Jan 1968. It's at http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/accident/critical.html Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
My Dakota had terrible rear brake issues. I got 'em stuck one time out at camp (unloading on a big hill) but the 318ci v8 had plenty of power to push against them. Still by the time we got to town I'd boiled the brake fluid and we had perilously squishy feeling brakes... Now one of my Saturday things is to go set and release the parking brakes on each vehicle 3 or 4 times. I rarely use the parking brake when I park so they never get exercised... Anyway on the tractor if you see my other post I'd already heard of this possibility and did my best to check for it. Could still be possible but where the clutch worked one day and didn't the next AND I can drive it all over creation dragging a couple thousand pounds of resisting pickup truck I discount it mostly... -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:20:46 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a0624083fc8c3f7ca0...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed On my first MB, the 190Dc, soon after I bought it, I pushed in the clutch at a RR crossing, and it didn't go out of gear. Turned out the throwout had seized sometime before. Each time you pushed the clutch, the throwout wore on the pressure plate arms. That day the arms wore through, so the throwout bearing went past the arms. No clutch. Being a torquey Diesel, after I had shut it down to stop, I put the car in first and cranked the starter. We took off in first, then I was able to speed match and gear jam to get into second and then third. I got it home. I don't suspect the tractor has this problem, but it is something to be aware of, depending on the spring design I think Mitch's suggestion of rust bonding may be the winning suggestion. On the dogde caravans, the rear wheel drum brake shoed are metallic. When it is rainy and humid, the shoes rust weld to the drums amazingly hard. This spring after the snow all melted, After rocking and dragging back and forth didn't break loose the rust welds, I finally decided to go fo' broke (a phrase from the Hawaiians in WWII Italian combat theater) and drag the wheels out the driveway and hope hitting the bump across the gutter fast would break them loose. I drug the tires squealing out the drive, across the gutter and across the street, 75 ft or more, and only got one wheel loose. I was really stumped, but I had to get the van out of the street. So I put it in D (for Drag) and gunned it to drag it back into the garage. When it bounced the gutter the second time, the other one finally broke loose. The first time I encountered this with the fist caravan, I took off the tire and beat on the drum with the 10 pounder BFH until I was sure I was going to break the drum off then take off the shoes and trash the whole thing. It finally broke loose after a LOT of beating. Point being, that rust bonding can be very strong. I generally keep not so good tires on the rear so I don't ruin good tires when this happens, and for safety, the best tires should always be on the front axle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Thats seriously small... A borescope or something they use for surgery. By the time you get that small it looks like you might as well get a proper borescope. Maybe its something you can rent, or do you know a plumber that might have one? Looks like a cheapie on like sells for ~$100 which is cheaper than I'd thought. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:00:16 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a06240847c8c41079c...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed A double ATTABOY for Gerry! As long as the list youngsters are talking about cheap technology replacing older expensive technology. Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. As an alternative, maybe a light or fiber light trnsmitter could be snaked in through the same hole if the camera was small enough. A source for a fiber light transmitter would be good too. On my 80 240D 4 speed project, I'd like to inspect the bores of the supposedly good engine before I stick it in the car. Borescopes are expensive and something that McParts doesnt rent. I don't mind pulling prechambers since I have my homemade JD70 wristpin slammer slide hammer prechamber puller and my homemade prechamber ring wrench Curt? anyone else? If anyone has a NOS 616 headgasket laying around, I can skip this step. But I am trying to cheap out of spending 70-80 bucks on a headgasket just to take a look inside. Aimed a light at the hole in the housing and put a computer camera on a block under the car. Sat in the car with a laptop and kept tapping the starter until I could see the drain plug. Went back under the car with a wrench and a pan, drained the ATF, pulled everything out. Done in two trips under the car. Gerry '83 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Most heart surgery (the easy stuff like what I had) isn't done with a scope, they're doing a flouroscope while they work and watch on a separate TV monitor. Weird to watch especially when you know its your insides they're working in... Sort of like watching somebody work a maze while pushing the line along. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:17:59 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: aanlkti=sp0z8a74kds90ba2ah6t9+swqhxpyv9_vz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) ?to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes ?(OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Speaking of which I've got a good '83 616 head and transmission. The bottom end is probably no good having run out of oil... Free for the taking, come and get it. I'd love to have somebody take it so I could observe the removal process. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:22:41 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors Message-ID: aanlktikvhu+l-trajmowj4oaqzqkraif8uo2eertq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dieselhead wrote: ?Then I can start on the 2 OM616 engines, hoping to make one that will propel the 80 4 speed. 123 240D (UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE ME A OM602 Bring a trailer here and take the '81 engine here? It was a good runner when rust put it on the sidelines. And, rust will take it to the recycle, sooner rather than later to appease the woman here. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Agreed, When you said it worked one day and not the next, that eliminates the rusted stick possibility. Depending on the pedal feel, you could have a linkage issue or fingers worn off the pressure plate. Anyway on the tractor if you see my other post I'd already heard of this possibility and did my best to check for it. Could still be possible but where the clutch worked one day and didn't the next AND I can drive it all over creation dragging a couple thousand pounds of resisting pickup truck I discount it mostly... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Salvaging Hammie WAS: glow in the dark doors
No time like the present. Taking things apart that you know you will never have to put back is easy, can be fun and educational. Just go out, break the timing chain and pull the head off. You don't need a crane or hoist. Then unbolt the remaining stuff off the block, except the motor mount arms. unbolt the motor mounts and transmission. At that point, if you are feeling strong, you can lift up the block and rollit out over the radiator support. if not, get another guy a rope and a pole, The block is somewhere around 100 lbs. If you put the bores to your chest and hold the motor mount arms, you can carry it up to 100 ft or so. I've done that before, but I had the pan off.when I did it. You have to keep the weight as close to your spine as possible. You can always rent/beg/borrow and engine hoist or use a block and tackle if you have a tree limb handy. Once that is done, you jack up the front end and take loose the driveshaft and lines to the trans. Then block up the trans and take loose the mount. You'd probably need to drop out the exhaust first. Once the trans is free, roll it off the blocks, or knock the blocks out from under it , but get it on the ground so you can drag it out. Voila (Not quite) instant spare parts! When you know you don't have to put it back together, it is liberating. I'd also grab the axle halves, and maybe the diff. Hood, grille, front fenders etc. If you were closer, I'd sure take you up on the offer! I'd love to have somebody take it so I could observe the removal process. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors
Good research Craig. One thing I like about y'all is that there is so much collective knowledge. This was an example. Craig did a marvelous job of digging up information. Jim Cathey, I said earlier this week I want to nominate as a national treasure. OK Don bailed me out at least twice for my OT questions about Dodge vans. So many others have helped out so many people. Dan Weeks commented earlier this week that he was glad he finally had an answer after 8 years of seeking info here. Roger keeps us apprised of the latest news about the aircraft industry and flying. Even though I get tired of his pooches, he adds life to the group. Thanks to all of you. A special thinks to Kaleb for being list mom. Many of us know why he is called the list mom. It is kind of a tribute to the late Kathy Kennel. She took on the task of bringing MBCA into a real web presence with a list years ago. She became the original list mom. To Kathy, Salute! My idle conversation about SWMBO WANTING to drag home more junk Glow in the dark doors led to some real knowledge and research about NucE and the history of the same. TO the WONKOs and Wackos that make up this list, I am glad to be just another wacko who tries to keep 10-50 year old MBs running and providing good service. Speaking of WONKO, you still alive? Been awful quiet since you became a gramp in that buick On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:25:06 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole That doesn't conform to any definition of 'tickling' I'd think of. They did used to do it, or so I understand, but I think it was more like ootching slugs of metal near each other on a table. The donut description is more like that of an active bomb. Not much as a tabletop demonstration! I did some searching on the web and found that it was called, Tickling the dragon's tail. I found lots of references to the 'ootching slugs of metal near each other on a table' experiments that killed two people, the second of which was Louis Slotin. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin. I also found one reference to dropping material through holes. That also lists, in reverse chronological order, all of the criticality accidents to 30 Jan 1968. It's at http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/accident/critical.html Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:22:22 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: My personal favorite review of this: Excellent Product Review by Tim Leech Very good quality for the price. We use it for home colonoscopies and couldn't be more pleased That's the one I mentioned. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors
Speaking of WONKO, you still alive? Been awful quiet since you became a gramp in that buick Yes, speaking of Wonko, he was the last person I can recall that waxed ecstatic about the collective wisdom and general helpfulness of the members of this list. I personally wanted to elevate and nominate Peter Frederick to Marshall Booths position, but Peter is very humble when it comes to his extensive knowledge of MB automobiles and other subjects... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
I have the 2 ends which are fine. I thought about splicing in something but would it hold? What would you use to hold it, hose clamps? On 9/25/2010 10:37 PM, OK Don wrote: Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.netwrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
When I was pulling the head I could not figure out where the other end went to (I did not look very good) and could not get the head out and snake it thru the manifold at the same time so I cut it. I figured I had plenty laying around and pulled one off of a 3.0 603 and its shaped different. I think my best bet is to see if I can bend it around to make it fit. Yes, its steel line. On 9/25/2010 10:39 PM, Dieselhead wrote: How about that weird 603 you had? I suppose it has yet a third style that won't work Can you build a new one or cut out a section and repair the original? Is it steel tubing? You should be able to have a repair section silver soldered in. You can make it/fit it, then take it to a good commercial refrig shop, and they can silver solder it. It would be cool if you could swedge the ends to slide over the tubing, and again, a commercial refig shop can do that too. (assuming it is steel tubing. Are you sure the old one can't be straightened/unkinked? If not you must have done a really good job of fubar with it. Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
pressure side On 9/25/2010 10:56 PM, Dieselhead wrote: WILL the 3/8 dia hose for the auto trans connection to the radiator work for a splice? that will hold oil pressure of up to at least 100 PSI, and is built for heat and oil. FLAPS has that. but i'd want a heat shield between it ahd the hot side of the turbo... You talkin bout the pressure side or the return? Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [M-Powered] Borescope....Snake cameras
http://www.misumi.com.tw/PLIST.ASP?PC_ID=52 There are many snake cameras available. Google snake camera. Gerry __._,_.___ for links to dozens of Mensa eSIGs, just click here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/M-eSIGs/links and if your favorite group is not listed, then add it! Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3160 - Release Date: 09/26/10 03:01:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
Yes - like on the power steering hoses. Perhaps slide it a couple of inches over the steel line, and put two clapms on each end. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have the 2 ends which are fine. I thought about splicing in something but would it hold? What would you use to hold it, hose clamps? On 9/25/2010 10:37 PM, OK Don wrote: Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors
I wanta thank the entire crew for helping me with lotsa stuff. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors Speaking of WONKO, you still alive? Been awful quiet since you became a gramp in that buick Yes, speaking of Wonko, he was the last person I can recall that waxed ecstatic about the collective wisdom and general helpfulness of the members of this list. I personally wanted to elevate and nominate Peter Frederick to Marshall Booths position, but Peter is very humble when it comes to his extensive knowledge of MB automobiles and other subjects... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
What??!! Huh?!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:22:22 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: My personal favorite review of this: Excellent Product Review by Tim Leech Very good quality for the price. We use it for home colonoscopies and couldn't be more pleased That's the one I mentioned. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 94 140 radio amp wiring
Does anybody have a wiring diagram for the radio amp connection on a 94 140 chassis? Somebody in the past removed the amp and hacked the wiring, I spliced the wiring back together but there were several wires of the same color so I had to guess. It works, but the fade is backwards and it also seems like the volume is backwards, turning it down turns it up etc. That part might be the radio tough as the sound does not turn up and down smoothy. Im going to try a different radio to test that. I also appear to have a blown speaker. It sounds like it but looking at it the thing does not appear to be blown. I would have figured the cone would be blown for sure. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
Bingo! That is it. it is about a 5 yr solution. If it is anywhere close to the exhaust heat side of the turbo, you should try to make a heatshield. Even if it is just tinfoil. i just looked at the trans cooler lines on the van that i put on about 5 yrs ago. They are getitng hard and brittle. Shoulda changed them today, but it a few miles to FLAPS for more hose. So I will do it later. Yes - like on the power steering hoses. Perhaps slide it a couple of inches over the steel line, and put two clapms on each end. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have the 2 ends which are fine. I thought about splicing in something but would it hold? What would you use to hold it, hose clamps? On 9/25/2010 10:37 PM, OK Don wrote: Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors
Same here -- great group, you put up with dumb questions, and help a lot. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I wanta thank the entire crew for helping me with lotsa stuff. Wilton OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Just Fleabayed borescope and came up with a bunch from Hong Kong, $30 and up. Some with lcd screen integrated. not HD but so what. A 617 and 601/602 NA prechambers have 14mm necks, turbo are 15mm.AFAIK. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 9/25/2010 10:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I was just looking at the camera on the macbook.. It is maybe 3mm dia. that could be put in a .5 thick case and you would have a 4mm dia camera for pretty cheap. The megapixel camera on my motorola cell phone appears to be about 1mm lens dia. Seems to me somewhere in the computer peripherals world there should be a camera and light USB device for around $30. they put video camera on R/C planes. Those have t be pretty small and they are either wireless or record to a microSD card. Whatever that is ought to work, except for the absence of a light. But if you can keep the camera to 4mm dia, then you should be able to get light in with the remaining 6mm You know, I had this idea a few years ago, to make a cheap cam like that for hobbyists, cars, etc. and never really pursued it. I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. --R On 9/25/2010 8:17 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Secret message for OK Don WAS: OT Caravan
Changing the trans fluid and filter on the van was way easy, except for draining the TC. Easier than an MB because you only have to raise the left front wheel a little. to get to the pan. The pan was glued on with black RTV. Next time I will have some permatex blue or red or RTV stuff handy too. The filter has no screws. just pops off and then you get a bath when the filter lands in the oil drain pan. For future reference: to drain the TC fluid, you want to take the oil cooler line closest to the back cylinder off at the trans and drop that hose in the pan. Or you can take the radiator end off the other line, and drop the hose in the pan. I took off the hose furthest from the trans. I figured I had a 50/50 chance of getting oil coming out the hose. Murphy is alive and well, because the nipple furthest form the back cylinder is the pressure side. So I sprayed everything with oil, then shut it down and put the hose back on and took off the OTHER hose at the trans on the nipple closest to the back cylinder. only took a few more seconds for bright red oil to come out. Counting the new oil pumped into the pan, I think I have about 7 qt in it now, and it is a little low. After I cycle it through the gears and get it warmed up, I will refill the fluid to the level. FLAPS could not tell me how much oil it should have taken with or w/o the TC. IIRC, yes - it's as simple as the SL. I also don't think the TC has a drain plug. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I will work on the idle tomorrow or Sun afternoon. Decided to change the trans oil and filter on the 00 Dogde caravan tomorrow, before I mess with the SL again. Anyone BTDT on a caravan or other crypsler product? any gotchas? I think it should be as simple as on the SL, except that I don't thing the TC has a drain plug. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: OTA HDTV
I'm growing tired of forking over $$$ to the cable company every month when I only watch about 10% of the chanels available. The last straw was that they've decided they're going to encode all the channels, so I'm going to need another damn box and remote just to watch TV. They say it is to enhance their service, but I suspect the real reason is to combat piracy and to track what people are watching so they can sell this data to marketing companies. I'm thinking of going back to over-the-air (OTA) TV. I'm in a fringe area, so I'd need a roof mast if not a tower. Looks like $100 would buy a good HD antenna, which would be offset in one month after canceling cable. Unknown costs for a mast or tower. Anyone have experience with this? Here's a tower for sale close to me, is this price high, decent? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160469554963 Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA HDTV
I have made and installed 3 of the Make.com coathanger DTV antennas. They cost under $10. It is affected sometimes by weather conditions. All three are in the attic, so no corrosion problems or similar stuff. I think OK DON posted a website that will give you a chart of all the stations in your area so you can figure distance and location. YOu are better off with one coathanger antenna per TV, than to try to feed 2 or more off one antenna. Splitters reduce the signal. I midify the Make.com directins by using a longer 1x4 and putting a drywall screw through it into a rafter or truss to hang the antenna. It is not perfect, but you can experiment and learn a lot on $10 before you plop down hundreds for what may not work better. Get a really good converter box, unless you have digital TVs. Ask the local home owned tv shops about converters, antennas and OTA DTV. Then buy some stuff you need from them. I bought 2 converter boxes with the gummit money from the local appliance/tv shop. They knew what works. You can always mount the coat hanger antenna on a 100' tower for better reception, and put a signal amp and an antenna rotor on . AND go to the gummit welfare libary once a week and check out movies. Its FREE! we get vcr tapes, or dvds, depending on where we are. One antenna is in WI, one in IL and one in AL. So they should work allover the country. Measure and cut the coathangers carefully, and sand the coathangers for connections. On one, i even soldered every connection. I'm growing tired of forking over $$$ to the cable company every month when I only watch about 10% of the chanels available. The last straw was that they've decided they're going to encode all the channels, so I'm going to need another damn box and remote just to watch TV. They say it is to enhance their service, but I suspect the real reason is to combat piracy and to track what people are watching so they can sell this data to marketing companies. I'm thinking of going back to over-the-air (OTA) TV. I'm in a fringe area, so I'd need a roof mast if not a tower. Looks like $100 would buy a good HD antenna, which would be offset in one month after canceling cable. Unknown costs for a mast or tower. Anyone have experience with this? Here's a tower for sale close to me, is this price high, decent? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160469554963 Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
BTDT x8 Yes, I have the shirt! It's a lifesavor, Much like Mobile1 -- Pete Arnold You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- On 9/26/2010 1:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Most heart surgery (the easy stuff like what I had) isn't done with a scope, they're doing a flouroscope while they work and watch on a separate TV monitor. Weird to watch especially when you know its your insides they're working in... Sort of like watching somebody work a maze while pushing the line along. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:17:59 -0500 From: Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: aanlkti=sp0z8a74kds90ba2ah6t9+swqhxpyv9_vz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) ?to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes ?(OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a General Thank you!
With all due respect to the many contributors of great info to this list--- and there are many , I second that motion. Thank you, Peter Frederick. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and all those BMWs. Message: 12 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:29:56 -0700 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors Message-ID: col117-w262f3ac7939091f0786347dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Speaking of WONKO, you still alive? Been awful quiet since you became a gramp in that buick Yes, speaking of Wonko, he was the last person I can recall that waxed ecstatic about the collective wisdom and general helpfulness of the members of this list. I personally wanted to elevate and nominate Peter Frederick to Marshall Booths position, but Peter is very humble when it comes to his extensive knowledge of MB automobiles and other subjects... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
Im real nervous about that, I dont want it to pop off and spring a leak. I guess I will either try that, try to bend the one off the 3.0. or spend the $130 or more to buy a new one. On 9/26/2010 6:21 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Bingo! That is it. it is about a 5 yr solution. If it is anywhere close to the exhaust heat side of the turbo, you should try to make a heatshield. Even if it is just tinfoil. i just looked at the trans cooler lines on the van that i put on about 5 yrs ago. They are getitng hard and brittle. Shoulda changed them today, but it a few miles to FLAPS for more hose. So I will do it later. Yes - like on the power steering hoses. Perhaps slide it a couple of inches over the steel line, and put two clapms on each end. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have the 2 ends which are fine. I thought about splicing in something but would it hold? What would you use to hold it, hose clamps? On 9/25/2010 10:37 PM, OK Don wrote: Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3160 - Release Date: 09/26/10 02:01:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Telecopes
I have been thinking on and off for years I wouldnt mind getting some sort of telescope. I have never really been into it much but would like to have something that when the urge arises I can take it out and night and look at the sky. What should I be looking for that will look at the moon real good? What about if I want to see other planets? Am I on another planet? How much should I expect to spend. Does anybody have something to sell? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Telecopes
Kaleb wrote: I have been thinking on and off for years I wouldnt mind getting some sort of telescope. DBT years ago counseled to get a good set of astronomy binoculars for using. I did - they work, but are seldom used - I don't know why... They were b'day gift for a son. Nikon astronomy binocs - expensive, but you will not beat Nikon optics, I don't think. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Craig wrote: Actually, there were two incidents of that, though not exactly as described. Ever since, it has been mandatory to do those types of experiments remotely (like 1/4 mile away) with machines doing the moving of material together. Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had to be one frightening flight in an old airplane. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Telecopes
I used to get the Edmund Scientific catalogs when I was a kid. I checked their website and it looks like they are still selling the same telescopes now as then! I guess not much has changed in the technology, though. I'm not sure how good their stuff is, but it's probably not complete junk. Looks like the telescopes start at around $250. I'd probably try to find a used one until I knew it was something I was going to spend time on and enjoy. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I have been thinking on and off for years I wouldnt mind getting some sort of telescope. I have never really been into it much but would like to have something that when the urge arises I can take it out and night and look at the sky. What should I be looking for that will look at the moon real good? What about if I want to see other planets? Am I on another planet? How much should I expect to spend. Does anybody have something to sell? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A general Thank you! WAS: glow in the dark doors
Dieselhead wrote: Good research Craig. One thing I like about y'all is that there is so much collective knowledge. This was an example. Craig did a marvelous job of digging up information. Doesn't Craig sit in the chair Slotin sat in while in NM? ...you do work at the national lab, eh Craig? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had to be one frightening flight in an old airplane. Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
OK, I pulled off the wires, and one terminal came off the wire. pulled out the idle speed control/motor and looked at it. there was a 12v pulse signal at the hot wire and the other appeared to have continuity to ground. all the hoses and vac look ok. So I thought maybe the wire that came off had not been making connection. repaired the terminal and put that wire on the bottom pin as it had been. There does not seem to be any polarity, so reversing the wires probably won't matter? Or will it matter? put it all together and started the car, hoping the one wire was the culprit. Went to 1600 RPM immediately. 800 when in D or R. cycled through gears several times. only difference is that when the trans is in Neutral or P, rpm rises as the engine heats up. So 1600 to 2000 in N or P 800 in gear D or R. Same as before. Did not do the 12v test to the pins with the wires removed yet. That is next. The pulse signal seems to be off about the same as on, and about 1 pulse a sec, just guessing. No fancy electrical intruments. I am thinking that the OVP and idle relay are ok. Likely that the idle speed control/motor is defective. the 12v test might indicate something, if it does not kill the engine. Thoughts? You're right on Fred... most likely an issue with the idle control. The idle valve looks like this: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0001411225.jpg Take a look at it and all the rubber hoses that connect it. Anything dried or up cracked should be replaced. Most likely, it all needs to be replaced, along with all the rubber vacuum line fittings. This is a good place to start and might cure lots of running issues with the car. The parts are not too expensive and you just replace each part one at a time to avoid mixing things up. Note that the vacuum line arrangements are different from model year to model year, so if you get a diagram, make sure its for a 1985 US model car only. I believe if you remove the idle valve and rotate it back and forth in your hand, you should hear the valve inside open and close. You can try cleaning it out with your favorite spray stuff and see if it helps. My experience is that it doesn't work for long if you do clean it. There is a controller for the idle valve, but I'm not too familiar with the specifics. The factory service CD will be very helpful to you in diagnosing this one. Jaime On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: D'head. Air leak, or stuck idle control motor? I know nada about the 380SL's fuel system. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 9/24/2010 1:27 PM, Dieselhead wrote: this car seems to idle very high when it is in neutral. It is like the high idle never goes to normal idle. When you start the engine, it goes to about 2000 rpm and stays there. When you put it into D or R, the engine slows enough to be ok. I did not check the tach, but I would say 750 to 1000. as soon as you take it out of gear, the RPMS go up to 2000. Thoroughly warmed up engine... I think I heard once that this is an electric problem to do with one or two relays. Can anyone point me to the right relays? No, blipping the throttle does not get it off the high idle. EVER. TIA Still 85 380SL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Allan wrote: Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Thanks for the names - you got the idea... I thought at one time I heard an account that spoke about the percussion wave that they expected to emanate from the blast, meaning the airplane needed to scoot real quick in the opposite direction, sharp bank, climb high, etc. I also wonder if there was a donut hole that someone had to drop the donut hole in, then drop it out the bomb bay. Some crude tech by today's experience - but hey - it got the job done. Not much of that type of weird death defying stuff happening today in the realm of what we want to call science. There is no science anymore - it is all indoctrination. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
It will hold for more than 5 yr. You won't have the car in 5 yr. you can always weld the 2 halves back together, ot find someone to do it for you. I'd use the trans cooler hose. or an industrial viton hose. that may be a 20 year solution. Im real nervous about that, I dont want it to pop off and spring a leak. I guess I will either try that, try to bend the one off the 3.0. or spend the $130 or more to buy a new one. On 9/26/2010 6:21 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Bingo! That is it. it is about a 5 yr solution. If it is anywhere close to the exhaust heat side of the turbo, you should try to make a heatshield. Even if it is just tinfoil. i just looked at the trans cooler lines on the van that i put on about 5 yrs ago. They are getitng hard and brittle. Shoulda changed them today, but it a few miles to FLAPS for more hose. So I will do it later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
THe B29s were pretty new at the time, not old. But I think you mean old to us now. in the link I posted a week ago about Jack Shelley, there was a link to the recordings of theinterviews Jack did with the crew of the Enola Gay, who dropped the Hiroshima bomb, and with the Nagasaki crew, and with some of the nuclear scientists in the pacific with the bombs. Very interesting. If you can't find the link, let me know it was from the des moines register (holding nose) Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had to be one frightening flight in an old airplane. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
They were told what to expect when and after it went off. Probably were told is was a really powerful bomb that was hoped to end the war and save lives. It was, and it did. To the plane crew, it was pretty much just another day at work, until later when they learned what it was and what it did. But then it is done. No undoing it. no redos. Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had to be one frightening flight in an old airplane. Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
65 psi hot oil, I think not. What is the difference between the 3.5 and 3.0L line? I bent mine all up doing the head -- forgot to clear it from the block while lifting the head -- but managed to bend it back into shape. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Some crude tech by today's experience - but hey - it got the job done. Not much of that type of weird death defying stuff happening today in the realm of what we want to call science. There is no science anymore - it is all indoctrination. mao And I have the scars to prove it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Telecopes
I recall being able to see Jupiter and 4 of its moons with an inexpensive pair of Nikon compact binos (on a very clear night in Baja California Sur). I recently bought a pristine vintage Bushnell Spacemaster spotting scope at my gun club swap meet for $50 including tripod and aluminum case! 15-40X zoom IIRC. These are no longer the bleeding edge of technology but still very good and can be found occasionally at good prices. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:53 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT Telecopes I have been thinking on and off for years I wouldnt mind getting some sort of telescope. I have never really been into it much but would like to have something that when the urge arises I can take it out and night and look at the sky. What should I be looking for that will look at the moon real good? What about if I want to see other planets? Am I on another planet? How much should I expect to spend. Does anybody have something to sell? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don WAS: OT Caravan
I ignored the TC fluid when I changed the tranny fluid - probably ought to do it again soon. I'll try this method next time. It does make sense, and I'm glad to know that someone (you) has worked out which line is which! Thanks! On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Changing the trans fluid and filter on the van was way easy, except for draining the TC. Easier than an MB because you only have to raise the left front wheel a little. to get to the pan. The pan was glued on with black RTV. Next time I will have some permatex blue or red or RTV stuff handy too. The filter has no screws. just pops off and then you get a bath when the filter lands in the oil drain pan. For future reference: to drain the TC fluid, you want to take the oil cooler line closest to the back cylinder off at the trans and drop that hose in the pan. Or you can take the radiator end off the other line, and drop the hose in the pan. I took off the hose furthest from the trans. I figured I had a 50/50 chance of getting oil coming out the hose. Murphy is alive and well, because the nipple furthest form the back cylinder is the pressure side. So I sprayed everything with oil, then shut it down and put the hose back on and took off the OTHER hose at the trans on the nipple closest to the back cylinder. only took a few more seconds for bright red oil to come out. Counting the new oil pumped into the pan, I think I have about 7 qt in it now, and it is a little low. After I cycle it through the gears and get it warmed up, I will refill the fluid to the level. FLAPS could not tell me how much oil it should have taken with or w/o the TC. IIRC, yes - it's as simple as the SL. I also don't think the TC has a drain plug. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I will work on the idle tomorrow or Sun afternoon. Decided to change the trans oil and filter on the 00 Dogde caravan tomorrow, before I mess with the SL again. Anyone BTDT on a caravan or other crypsler product? any gotchas? I think it should be as simple as on the SL, except that I don't thing the TC has a drain plug. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Fred - Sound to me like the cold engine sensor is not working. Did you get the pdf file that I sent you (07.3-112.pdf 2Mb) early Saturday AM? It was the file that Jamie was referring to. Not sure how your SL is set up but on my '81 there is a temperature sensor in the back of the right cylinder Head that is used by the idle speed computer to give you fast idle when the engine is cold. When the engine warms up the sensor (closes?) and sends a signal to the idle speed computer so that the idle speed then drops to normal. As I recall the test to see if that circuit and sensor is working was just to pull off the connector from the sensor. That should equal fast idle. Short the connector should drop to warm idle. Don't trust my memory read the pdf before you try that. Also I think I remember seeing that in the later 116 engines they used oil temperature instead of water temp. but that would be in the pdf. Let me know if you didn't get the file and I'll try to send it again. I can break it into 2 smaller files if your mail server choked on the 2Mb file. Barry Went to 1600 RPM immediately ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA HDTV
I used aluminum clothes line wire - less resistance than steel, and doesn't rust. 12 gauge solid house wire would also work fine, but I would solder the connections then. The elements need additional screws, or hot glue, or something to keep them in place if it's sitting up in the air - mine pivoted on the center screw, shorting out against the element below them, effectively killing tha antenna till fixed it. I feed a Haupage USB receiver that plugs into the computer with the antenna. It works fine. My antenna is about 20 feet above the roof on a fiberglass pole that also supports part of the long wire loop I use for shortwave ham radio. I think this is the site I found earlier, but am not sure: http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I have made and installed 3 of the Make.com coathanger DTV antennas. They cost under $10. It is affected sometimes by weather conditions. All three are in the attic, so no corrosion problems or similar stuff. I think OK DON posted a website that will give you a chart of all the stations in your area so you can figure distance and location. YOu are better off with one coathanger antenna per TV, than to try to feed 2 or more off one antenna. Splitters reduce the signal. I midify the Make.com directins by using a longer 1x4 and putting a drywall screw through it into a rafter or truss to hang the antenna. It is not perfect, but you can experiment and learn a lot on $10 before you plop down hundreds for what may not work better. Get a really good converter box, unless you have digital TVs. Ask the local home owned tv shops about converters, antennas and OTA DTV. Then buy some stuff you need from them. I bought 2 converter boxes with the gummit money from the local appliance/tv shop. They knew what works. You can always mount the coat hanger antenna on a 100' tower for better reception, and put a signal amp and an antenna rotor on . AND go to the gummit welfare libary once a week and check out movies. Its FREE! we get vcr tapes, or dvds, depending on where we are. One antenna is in WI, one in IL and one in AL. So they should work allover the country. Measure and cut the coathangers carefully, and sand the coathangers for connections. On one, i even soldered every connection. OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Fairly new airplane then; probably less than a year old. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors Craig wrote: Actually, there were two incidents of that, though not exactly as described. Ever since, it has been mandatory to do those types of experiments remotely (like 1/4 mile away) with machines doing the moving of material together. Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had to be one frightening flight in an old airplane. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Telecopes
Real men grind their own optics -- http://www.telescopemaking.org/grinding.html not that I've ever done it, mind you. My telescope is a +1 close-up lens on the end of a pvc tube, with an eyepiece from an old camera. I strap it to a tripod, it's too high powered to hand hold. A +1/2 close up lens would be even better. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: I recall being able to see Jupiter and 4 of its moons with an inexpensive pair of Nikon compact binos (on a very clear night in Baja California Sur). I recently bought a pristine vintage Bushnell Spacemaster spotting scope at my gun club swap meet for $50 including tripod and aluminum case! 15-40X zoom IIRC. These are no longer the bleeding edge of technology but still very good and can be found occasionally at good prices. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:53 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT Telecopes I have been thinking on and off for years I wouldnt mind getting some sort of telescope. I have never really been into it much but would like to have something that when the urge arises I can take it out and night and look at the sky. What should I be looking for that will look at the moon real good? What about if I want to see other planets? Am I on another planet? How much should I expect to spend. Does anybody have something to sell? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA HDTV
New tower sections are $119 per 10 feet, then you need the ground mount and the top section, plus shipping: http://www.texastowers.com/rohn_25g.htm We now watch most of our TV on Hulu -- On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I'm growing tired of forking over $$$ to the cable company every month when I only watch about 10% of the chanels available. Here's a tower for sale close to me, is this price high, decent? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160469554963 Allan -- -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT? - Sprinter
Who wqas looking for a cheap Sprinter? This has been listed on CL once a month for the last three or four months -- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1974626016.html also http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1974257088.html -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
No climb (already at high altitude); turn for 55 seconds after release while bomb continues forward; roll out tail to burst; hold it straight and level until shock wave passes. I think at least one of them was a cannon-type weapon - a gun or cannon-type apparatus fired one component into close proximity with the other to create critical mass (detonation); spherical shape of high explosive detonated around it also concentrated critical mass by implosion. (Oversimplified and generally) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors Allan wrote: Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Thanks for the names - you got the idea... I thought at one time I heard an account that spoke about the percussion wave that they expected to emanate from the blast, meaning the airplane needed to scoot real quick in the opposite direction, sharp bank, climb high, etc. I also wonder if there was a donut hole that someone had to drop the donut hole in, then drop it out the bomb bay. Some crude tech by today's experience - but hey - it got the job done. Not much of that type of weird death defying stuff happening today in the realm of what we want to call science. There is no science anymore - it is all indoctrination. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
If it's the supply line, it is worth the peace of mind to buy a replacement. If it is the return line you can use duct tape, a piece of old garden hose, and some Harbor Freight zip ties. -Dave Walton On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don WAS: OT Caravan
Good! I'll send YOU the cleaning bill! When the filter came off and splashed fluid all over my head, some of it ran into my eye before I could turn eyes up. so, in return for your cheerful funding of washing up my mess, I will tell you that the filter on my 00 with 3.3 engine is square, and the one FLAPS sold me was not. They gave me the wrong filter. It is held on at the RR corner of the filter with a tube that fits with an oring into the valve body. So, grab the LF corner with one hand and pry the filter RR corner away form the valve body with the other, and you can avoid the bath. The filter has 4 little bumps that interfere with the oil pan, so the oil pan holds the filter snug in place. for 100k miles, the fluid was not bad. Cleaner than the 150k SL that probably had trans filter changed sometime. Guess I shoulda done the trans filter right away. SHoulda done it on the van long ago, but I only intended to keep it a year or two. Now I think it is 5 or approaching 5 I have had this van. I ignored the TC fluid when I changed the tranny fluid - probably ought to do it again soon. I'll try this method next time. It does make sense, and I'm glad to know that someone (you) has worked out which line is which! Thanks! On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Changing the trans fluid and filter on the van was way easy, except for draining the TC. Easier than an MB because you only have to raise the left front wheel a little. to get to the pan. The pan was glued on with black RTV. Next time I will have some permatex blue or red or RTV stuff handy too. The filter has no screws. just pops off and then you get a bath when the filter lands in the oil drain pan. For future reference: to drain the TC fluid, you want to take the oil cooler line closest to the back cylinder off at the trans and drop that hose in the pan. Or you can take the radiator end off the other line, and drop the hose in the pan. I took off the hose furthest from the trans. I figured I had a 50/50 chance of getting oil coming out the hose. Murphy is alive and well, because the nipple furthest form the back cylinder is the pressure side. So I sprayed everything with oil, then shut it down and put the hose back on and took off the OTHER hose at the trans on the nipple closest to the back cylinder. only took a few more seconds for bright red oil to come out. Counting the new oil pumped into the pan, I think I have about 7 qt in it now, and it is a little low. After I cycle it through the gears and get it warmed up, I will refill the fluid to the level. FLAPS could not tell me how much oil it should have taken with or w/o the TC. 992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Uh, that was my SL question. No, I didn't get a pdf. send it to 126die...@gmail.com thanks. Fred - Sound to me like the cold engine sensor is not working. Did you get the pdf file that I sent you (07.3-112.pdf 2Mb) early Saturday AM? It was the file that Jamie was referring to. Not sure how your SL is set up but on my '81 there is a temperature sensor in the back of the right cylinder Head that is used by the idle speed computer to give you fast idle when the engine is cold. When the engine warms up the sensor (closes?) and sends a signal to the idle speed computer so that the idle speed then drops to normal. As I recall the test to see if that circuit and sensor is working was just to pull off the connector from the sensor. That should equal fast idle. Short the connector should drop to warm idle. Don't trust my memory read the pdf before you try that. Also I think I remember seeing that in the later 116 engines they used oil temperature instead of water temp. but that would be in the pdf. Let me know if you didn't get the file and I'll try to send it again. I can break it into 2 smaller files if your mail server choked on the 2Mb file. Barry Went to 1600 RPM immediately ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA HDTV
60 foot fiberglass ppole for $300 - http://www.spiderbeam.us/product_info.php?info=p232_Spiderbeam 18m fiberglass pole.html or http://www.spiderbeam.us/index.php?cat=c2_Fiberglass Poles.html On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:53 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: New tower sections are $119 per 10 feet, then you need the ground mount and the top section, plus shipping: http://www.texastowers.com/rohn_25g.htm We now watch most of our TV on Hulu -- On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I'm growing tired of forking over $$$ to the cable company every month when I only watch about 10% of the chanels available. Here's a tower for sale close to me, is this price high, decent? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160469554963 Allan -- -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don WAS: OT Caravan
I would have remembered a bath like that - so I lucked out when I did it last time. I have a set of car clothes - no cleaning bill other than they get washed all by themselves. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Good! I'll send YOU the cleaning bill! When the filter came off and splashed fluid all over my head, some of it ran into my eye before I could turn eyes up. so, in return for your cheerful funding of washing up my mess, I will tell you that the filter on my 00 with 3.3 engine is square, and the one FLAPS sold me was not. They gave me the wrong filter. It is held on at the RR corner of the filter with a tube that fits with an oring into the valve body. So, grab the LF corner with one hand and pry the filter RR corner away form the valve body with the other, and you can avoid the bath. The filter has 4 little bumps that interfere with the oil pan, so the oil pan holds the filter snug in place. for 100k miles, the fluid was not bad. Cleaner than the 150k SL that probably had trans filter changed sometime. Guess I shoulda done the trans filter right away. SHoulda done it on the van long ago, but I only intended to keep it a year or two. Now I think it is 5 or approaching 5 I have had this van. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for OK Don WAS: OT Caravan
I'm not talking about the clothes. that is minimal. You volunteered to pay to clean the engine compartment, the radiator, condensor and the garage floor. Thanks. I did not like getting the stuff in my eye. Going to take a shower now to get it out of my hair. I would have remembered a bath like that - so I lucked out when I did it last time. I have a set of car clothes - no cleaning bill other than they get washed all by themselves. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Good! I'll send YOU the cleaning bill! When the filter came off and splashed fluid all over my head, some of it ran into my eye before I could turn eyes up. so, in return for your cheerful funding of washing up my mess, I will tell you that the filter on my 00 with 3.3 engine is square, and the one FLAPS sold me was not. They gave me the wrong filter. It is held on at the RR corner of the filter with a tube that fits with an oring into the valve body. So, grab the LF corner with one hand and pry the filter RR corner away form the valve body with the other, and you can avoid the bath. The filter has 4 little bumps that interfere with the oil pan, so the oil pan holds the filter snug in place. for 100k miles, the fluid was not bad. Cleaner than the 150k SL that probably had trans filter changed sometime. Guess I shoulda done the trans filter right away. SHoulda done it on the van long ago, but I only intended to keep it a year or two. Now I think it is 5 or approaching 5 I have had this van. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
Transmission cooler hose will work fine. Q: How many cars and trucks are running down the road today with HOT OIL under pressure running through 3/8 dia hoses? A: ( to view the answer scroll down) Nearly all. Every car or light truck with an auto trans has hard oil cooler lines running to the front, and a 8 to 12 section of hose between the hard lines and the radiator. They don't blow that often. MB lines start to leak after about 20 years. FLAPS hose is good for at least 5 years. Kaleb won't own the 140 in 5 years. 100PSI is really nothing for trans hose. normal operating range. Kaleb can get industrial 400 or more PSI hose with viton if you really want to overkill. a 3 section won't cost much. If it's the supply line, it is worth the peace of mind to buy a replacement. If it is the return line you can use duct tape, a piece of old garden hose, and some Harbor Freight zip ties. -Dave Walton On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Well guess what: Rusty's website says that idle control valve is $800 or more at the friendly local stealership. Only $350 from Rust man. for a $25 part. Ok, to be fair if I call him he will probably sell it for less, but $300 is still a lot of money to slow down the idle. How bout I stuff a 20 cent faucet washer in there? Then it might idle too rich? I can always drill out the hole to get more air through. I will test the Idle control unit tomorrow to see if 12v kills the engine. I will try to figure out/find the sensor Barry talks about. That is what I thought i should be looking for from the beginning. Just a little thermo that is supposed to say ok, I am warm now so the idle speed drops. grumble stupid gassers. by the time I get done with this, I might be able to diagnose 116 gassers. /grumble I did see a vacuum sensor buried inside the front side of the Rt head. I'll look on the right hinterkopf tomorrow to see if I find an elektrik thermo switch there.. Fred - Sound to me like the cold engine sensor is not working. Did you get the pdf file that I sent you (07.3-112.pdf 2Mb) early Saturday AM? It was the file that Jamie was referring to. Not sure how your SL is set up but on my '81 there is a temperature sensor in the back of the right cylinder Head that is used by the idle speed computer to give you fast idle when the engine is cold. When the engine warms up the sensor (closes?) and sends a signal to the idle speed computer so that the idle speed then drops to normal. As I recall the test to see if that circuit and sensor is working was just to pull off the connector from the sensor. That should equal fast idle. Short the connector should drop to warm idle. Don't trust my memory read the pdf before you try that. Also I think I remember seeing that in the later 116 engines they used oil temperature instead of water temp. but that would be in the pdf. Let me know if you didn't get the file and I'll try to send it again. I can break it into 2 smaller files if your mail server choked on the 2Mb file. Barry Went to 1600 RPM immediately ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
