Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
That's a great thought Ed - someone did exactly that (David Bruckman?) for the 123 wagons, I need a similar savior for my 124 wagon... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga Maybe someone on the list has a similar car, that they know for sure the suspension is setup right. If so, maybe they can take a measurement of a fixed point on the underside, to give you a baseline of what your car's ride height should be? Just a thought I'm throwing out there. I'm sitting on the side lines, reading and taking all this in and learning what I can. I figure soon or later, I'll need to do all this too if I keep the car long enough. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 23:01, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: OK 124 (and 201) experts, here's my puzzle. After replacing the four links and also the bushings at each end of the spring link, I STILL have negative camber on my 124 wagon. It is better, but it's still there. :( So, I've thought of a couple of causes and options. 1) Eccentric bolt and elongated holes at the inner end of either the spring link or the camber link, and adjust the camber directly. There is a note in the Tech. Modification notes of the service manual that the very early 124 cars had such an adjustment, but it was eliminated. 2) Rear springs are worn out; Replace em! 3) Rear spring pads are worn out; Replace em! How can I measure the ride height to determine if the negative camber is due to decreased ride height? -Max (feeling a little negative) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
What!!?! An MB suspension that doesn't hold up for a million miles? Heresy!!! Burn him! Burn him! Actually, I was thinking the same - stretching or deforming somewhere - but that is a terrible thought. Taking the car in for new tires and alignment today, I'll ask the shop but they're tire/brake folks. Maybe I should call the local MB wizard shop to see what they think (they do a lot of body work). -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga I have pondered this phenomenon, but have no direct answer. My suspicion is that maybe somehow the spring link (LCA) stretches under high mileage. Perhaps the link mountings distort, but nothing is obvious. With this phenomenon, I have not suspected springs as the springs and rubber seats appear ok, and the height seems ok. I have NOT measured the height. Perhaps a really good frame straightening shop can help. They should have all the measurements etc. A friend has a 00 volvo that has been crabbing really bad, and pulling to the left. many alignment and vovlo only shops could not fix it or find a problem. I suggested he find a frame straightening shop. He took it in and they immediately found the problem and fixed it. He is very happy now. I CAN tell you that you are not alone. OK 124 (and 201) experts, here's my puzzle. After replacing the four links and also the bushings at each end of the spring link, I STILL have negative camber on my 124 wagon. It is better, but it's still there. :( So, I've thought of a couple of causes and options. 1) Eccentric bolt and elongated holes at the inner end of either the spring link or the camber link, and adjust the camber directly. There is a note in the Tech. Modification notes of the service manual that the very early 124 cars had such an adjustment, but it was eliminated. 2) Rear springs are worn out; Replace em! 3) Rear spring pads are worn out; Replace em! How can I measure the ride height to determine if the negative camber is due to decreased ride height? -Max (feeling a little negative) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Yes, I forgot to order new spring pads. I may decide to replace those, fortunately now I know that getting out the springs is not a big deal at all. And yes, according to the technical data book, negative camber is normal, so maybe I'm making a fuss over nothing! Will ask tire shop to measure and report the camber. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga I would have replaced the spring pads when I did the links (as I plan to do on mine) -- if the rubber in the links is bad, the rubber in the pads is also bad. I know this was a problem with someone else's car a few years back but I don't know what the solution was. There is some negative camber that is normal, just like a BMW, the rear wheels are not supposed to stand straight up and normal ride height. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] fwm4se如何从管9s理和制cx度 上保护商业秘密？
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Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld
Me three, although having some success welding up a brace for my snowmobile trailer (thicker, new metal) helped a lot. I took a basic welding class at The Steel Yard in Providence. Best thing about the class was learning to cut with a torch! Its a tired old saw but there is no substitute for time on the stick. My welding started to show serious improvement when I started my second 5# spool of wire... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:28:24 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld Message-ID: 58e00d8e-0c02-11e0-a45a-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I am looking to do the same thing (I was looking for a welding class') one of these days, but I just cant seem to find the time right now. An alternate approach is to buy a $100 rusty car and a welder, and have at it! That's what I did... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
*Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been worth painting to match. I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty dirty... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: aanlktik8-pvh=p848cm4mz-q_tyld7wnrot2xgxxp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel consumption would be too much of an issue. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the pictures: http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fwm4se如何从管9s理和制cx度上保护商业 秘密？
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Curt, You're well on your way to Pebble Beach. ;-) hee hee. It's all about the final coat of Zymol. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 09:33, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been worth painting to match. I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty dirty... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: aanlktik8-pvh=p848cm4mz-q_tyld7wnrot2xgxxp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel consumption would be too much of an issue. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Kia Sedona
My only impression was as a rental car for about 6 weeks when one of my Lincolns had been hit by someone in such a big hurry to get to a sonic that she cut across three lanes of traffic - anyway - I was impressed and I'm never impressed. It drove nice - got resonable gase mileage, sat the whole family nicely. Because of my rule rental cars are to be Driven, We put about 6000 miles on it in 6 weeks and liked it alot. Anyone have any experience with the Toyota Sienna? My parents are giving us one with about 160K on it that they bought new. I have driven it alot and don't love it, but sure think it is a reliable piece of machinery. Peter On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am in the market for a vehicle with 3 row (7 passenger) seating. There is a '05 Kia Sedona for sale locally. Any experiences? I believe these sold with a 10/100K warranty, anyone know if that transfers to subsequent owners? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
If y'all are not careful, I may hafta post a photo of my Tower Paint spray job I did coupla months ago on a section of the left rear door (between pinstrip and lower window chrome strip) on my black 91 350SDL. SWMBO's camera is mess up, though, so you'll just hafta take my word for it; it looks just like the adjoining paint that came from Stuttgart 20 years ago. Somebody (not I) had evidently done a lot of buffing/polishing/rubbing on that section and rubbed paint off to the primer in 2 small spots. 'May have been somebody's chauffeur in the 4 years before I got the car nearly 16 years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the pictures: http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
Yes, that's the part I'm referring to. I couldn't quite make out what it was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, then painted over. A small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite hard, but I suspect that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it in some way. Thanks for the tips. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas down low? It is basically painted over undercoating. The regular off the shelf rubberized undercoating won't do. There are several options available that can duplicate this undercoating although I have been unable to 100% faithfully copy what was there. The original stuff is very rubbery and pliable and no product that I have found has had that quality. Anyway, I have used a variety of products. Wurth made a product which is meant to be applied with a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and stippled over the surface to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed undercoating. 3M has a body shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. 3M also has a rocker panel spray which also takes some finishing over with a brush to smooth out the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another product that can be used but again you have to be creative in its application to get a factory look. All these products then get primed and painted body color. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like to be better informed about the right way to do it on certain models, so I can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done. As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing some rust. I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past that have caused water to settle. I did notice the rubber spout under the side in questions is missing. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth. But I recall they were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about anything specific on a car. I did have some issues with the idea that anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned. But he did alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of good information... but he wasn't right about everything, and even a suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems. I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to make dieseltech (and any real serious projects of my own) work. I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 years? I bought my first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to legally drive. I grew up in a W123 and learned to drive in a W126. I'm in my 30s now. I'm an engineer and I work in the automotive industry, as some of you may know. (Which is why I took the attack on the engineers who design these cars personally) I've been working on many Mercedes project cars over the years and most of them I've never mentioned here. I feel that there is no interest in any real restoration or preservation work. The posts I do make are largely ignored. This isn't the fault of the list, its my fault for not finding a more suitable audience. I'm a big believer that original is best. Something Dr. Booth and I had in common. I enjoy these cars because they bring me and my passengers an experience of what things were like when they were new 20-30+ years ago. I take pride in making them operate as originally intended, design flaws and all. As I get older, I feel stronger and stronger about this. The projects I take on are usually nice cars
Re: [MBZ] fwm4se如何从管9s理和制cx度上保护商业 秘密？
NO, we don't want any of your cheap OEM junk parts! And you can keep your fuses too! hee hee Ed 300E 2010/12/20 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com Kalebwtf? Bob R 2011/12/19 yjka cab...@zhuangtai.com dryng请rniex参oibnf阅jtqur附ydlss件nwqrh资okaff料 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ???.doc Type: application/msword Size: 40960 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20111220/68031f63/attachment.doc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Somebody got a little carried away with the old polishing wheel, eh. I have been given two of them, and I'm frightened to plug them in. I've been warned, extreme caution must be used around any creases in the metal, as the wheel can buzz it down to primer in no time, if you don't keep it moving. It's ok, hand waxing the old cars are a few of the only pleasures I get anyway. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 10:15, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If y'all are not careful, I may hafta post a photo of my Tower Paint spray job I did coupla months ago on a section of the left rear door (between pinstrip and lower window chrome strip) on my black 91 350SDL. SWMBO's camera is mess up, though, so you'll just hafta take my word for it; it looks just like the adjoining paint that came from Stuttgart 20 years ago. Somebody (not I) had evidently done a lot of buffing/polishing/rubbing on that section and rubbed paint off to the primer in 2 small spots. 'May have been somebody's chauffeur in the 4 years before I got the car nearly 16 years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the pictures: http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: more 140 ignorance and hate
It should have read, any job is worth doing, is worth doing well, that's why I don't do any of my own body work lol. I had a bad Bondo experience once, and I've never recovered from it. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:29, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. And those are two _completely_ different statements! Like to see my weld jobs on the Frankenheap? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld
Make sure you check the pricing on fills for different sized cylinders. I ended up with an A size (~ 5ft tall) because the cost per cubic foot was about 1/5th the cost of refilling the little pony tanks Harbor Freight sells. No one locally actually fills 'your' cylinders - they just swap them out. -Dave Walton On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Me three, although having some success welding up a brace for my snowmobile trailer (thicker, new metal) helped a lot. I took a basic welding class at The Steel Yard in Providence. Best thing about the class was learning to cut with a torch! Its a tired old saw but there is no substitute for time on the stick. My welding started to show serious improvement when I started my second 5# spool of wire... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:28:24 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld Message-ID: 58e00d8e-0c02-11e0-a45a-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I am looking to do the same thing (I was looking for a welding class') one of these days, but I just cant seem to find the time right now. An alternate approach is to buy a $100 rusty car and a welder, and have at it! That's what I did... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld
A friend of mine did just that. But I told him to hurry up and start practicing, as I hear iron oxide is really hard to weld! hee hee Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:27, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. Save your money. Forget the class. Buy a mig welder and practice on some scrap metal then ask us and we'll teach you the intricacies of the whole process. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I am looking to do the same thing (I was looking for a welding class') one of these days, but I just cant seem to find the time right now. An alternate approach is to buy a $100 rusty car and a welder, and have at it! That's what I did... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Yes - that is the website which inspires me. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been worth painting to match. I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty dirty... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: aanlktik8-pvh=p848cm4mz-q_tyld7wnrot2xgxxp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel consumption would be too much of an issue. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
A one car garage is a severe handicap! ;) Seriously though I don't know why a roller job couldn't look as good as you'd want it to, its really all about the cut and polish job. I didn't even bother, just got it so the orange peel wasn't too bad and left it alone. Its actually weathered quite well. I just scuffed up the hood, which was red, and started coating. I was sanding (with 400 no less *shudder*) every coat at first which is WAY too much. I should have been using 1500 every 3rd coat or so. I think I ended up with ~15 coats but thats only because I scrubbed a bunch clean off, learning process and all. Once the final coat was down you'd want to a 2000 grit level, then clearcoat, then cut and polish and it'd look great. MASSIVE amount of work though. That said to take any car to that level with any process (roller or gun) is going to be a massive amount of work... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:12:04 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: aanlktim8npyzcqrajezub70ym670+zwh+qbx-mkgh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, You're well on your way to Pebble Beach. ;-) hee hee. It's all about the final coat of Zymol. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 09:33, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been worth painting to match. I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty dirty... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apologies Why can't we all just get along? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I dont think there was anything untrue in any of that. On 12/19/2010 6:05 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The list has been just fine until the last day or 2. As far as being asleep at the wheel, I have actually been on the road all weekend. I have not decided it I want to ban or moderate anybody yet. I am hoping it sorts itself out rather soon. As for people on this list slandering Richarde, I do not know what you are talking about The only statements of fact, true or otherwise, I recall seeing about Richarde were a claim that he posts with incredible frequency on facebook and something about Rusty paying him $2000 a month for mbz.org. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3326 - Release Date: 12/19/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
3M Rocker Panel Spray, part # 05911. You can use it over or under a paint. I used this to recoat repaired rockers on a number of MBs over the years, and it gives you the exact texture that the OEM stuff did. I usually put it down over primer, then shot the requisite MB flat black chassis paint over it. Looked just like it came from the factory. Dan --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:17 AM Yes, that's the part I'm referring to. I couldn't quite make out what it was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, then painted over. A small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite hard, but I suspect that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it in some way. Thanks for the tips. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas down low? It is basically painted over undercoating. The regular off the shelf rubberized undercoating won't do. There are several options available that can duplicate this undercoating although I have been unable to 100% faithfully copy what was there. The original stuff is very rubbery and pliable and no product that I have found has had that quality. Anyway, I have used a variety of products. Wurth made a product which is meant to be applied with a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and stippled over the surface to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed undercoating. 3M has a body shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. 3M also has a rocker panel spray which also takes some finishing over with a brush to smooth out the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another product that can be used but again you have to be creative in its application to get a factory look. All these products then get primed and painted body color. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like to be better informed about the right way to do it on certain models, so I can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done. As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing some rust. I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past that have caused water to settle. I did notice the rubber spout under the side in questions is missing. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth. But I recall they were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about anything specific on a car. I did have some issues with the idea that anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned. But he did alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of good information... but he wasn't right about everything, and even a suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems. I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to make dieseltech (and any real serious projects of my own) work. I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 years? I bought my first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to legally drive. I grew up in a W123 and learned to drive in a W126. I'm in my 30s now. I'm an engineer and I work in the automotive industry, as some of you may know. (Which is why I took the attack on the engineers who design these cars
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Okay - Its definitly not as good as Top Gear on the other side of the pond, but its not that bad. I know I'm just a redneck at heart - but you have to admit making fun of GM cars for 45 mins during last nights episode was pretty funny. On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I found Top Gear on Netflix and watched a couple of episodes (season 12, looks like 13 is not on streaming yet) last night. They can say some dirty words on Brit TV that they can't say here, and make allusions to things verboten. Quite entertaining. I watched them on the laptop, gotta get one of those boxes you can hook to the TV and watch them directly on the rabbit ears. --R On 12/17/2010 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Anybody watching Top Gear America? It sucks... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I am not the only one who would be sad to see you go
Jaime, I've been on the list since Richard Sexton ran it and I also would like to see your knowledge base continue to enlighten our list. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AMG photo attachment test ?
Ed wrote: shot of AMG catalog, 1 of 4 pages on W123. This I noticed is a larger pic, but maybe it will be compressed somehow when uploaded ? That came thru fine. I want that black anodized grill surround for my W123 - has anyone seen that anywhere? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The continuing 124 rear suspension saga
Spring pads are a possibility, but are you sure the base pressure valve inside the levelling valve is working? What happens when you open the bleed screw? The car should fall. If it does not, the base pressure valve component is leaking and needs rebuilding. OK 124 (and 201) experts, here's my puzzle. After replacing the four links and also the bushings at each end of the spring link, I STILL have negative camber on my 124 wagon. It is better, but it's still there. :( ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
Rusty wrote: Why can't we be friends - War *That* is the beginning of all this pc garbage. The reason for the current meersaydees-fray is that we have a decade and half of pent up pc holdings that have had no outlet, so now the outlet comes out against even the most amiable amongst us, by the most amiable in our midst. PC has run its course. In fact, western kulture has run its course. OT - DC has known we have been done for two decades - viz the 'legislation' that they fool around with. They know this kulture has been on the downhill slide for 20 years and have been aiding and abetting it. Now, a small number of us plebes are beginning to be keen to this endeavor, although it is wy too far gone to arrest. We are all niggers expecting the big-mama gov't to provide for each one of us - and for free. Does anyone hold up their hand and say ax the bush era tax cut scheme? - I thought not. Pile on to the ruination of the kulture - we all be niggas now! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
it's a great tune though, no? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Rusty wrote: Why can't we be friends - War *That* is the beginning of all this pc garbage. The reason for the current meersaydees-fray is that we have a decade and half of pent up pc holdings that have had no outlet, so now the outlet comes out against even the most amiable amongst us, by the most amiable in our midst. PC has run its course. In fact, western kulture has run its course. OT - DC has known we have been done for two decades - viz the 'legislation' that they fool around with. They know this kulture has been on the downhill slide for 20 years and have been aiding and abetting it. Now, a small number of us plebes are beginning to be keen to this endeavor, although it is wy too far gone to arrest. We are all niggers expecting the big-mama gov't to provide for each one of us - and for free. Does anyone hold up their hand and say ax the bush era tax cut scheme? - I thought not. Pile on to the ruination of the kulture - we all be niggas now! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld
I've been using flux core wire. At my skill level it doesn't really make any difference vs gas welding. I don't see a whole bunch of difference between my cheap Lincoln Handy Mig vs the really nice Miller's we had in class for working with rusty metal. On nice clean metal a nicer machine makes a nicer weld more easily but its not a huge difference. If I were welding a lot the nicer machine would be worth it though. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:28:21 -0500 From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Learning to weld Message-ID: aanlktingpx1hx+mhezkoooenk6bk0g0wkbdcebvqe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Make sure you check the pricing on fills for different sized cylinders. I ended up with an A size (~ 5ft tall) because the cost per cubic foot was about 1/5th the cost of refilling the little pony tanks Harbor Freight sells. No one locally actually fills 'your' cylinders - they just swap them out. -Dave Walton On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Me three, although having some success welding up a brace for my snowmobile trailer (thicker, new metal) helped a lot. I took a basic welding class at The Steel Yard in Providence. Best thing about the class was learning to cut with a torch! Its a tired old saw but there is no substitute for time on the stick. My welding started to show serious improvement when I started my second 5# spool of wire... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AMG photo attachment test ?
Glad it came through. I'll post a few more later today, but they will have to await admin approval first, due to the size. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 11:45, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Ed wrote: shot of AMG catalog, 1 of 4 pages on W123. This I noticed is a larger pic, but maybe it will be compressed somehow when uploaded ? That came thru fine. I want that black anodized grill surround for my W123 - has anyone seen that anywhere? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Except that the whole thing was stolen from Top Gear UK when they spent a half hour making fun of British Leyland. They stole EVERYTHING, it was an event by event copy but with hosts that have no chemistry. Why must American shows steal from British shows and then do it poorly? At least the Aussies make up new stunts... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:54:52 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlkti=qxncy9ny98yrt_lu8mjphvr5lnwwqs6nag...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay - Its definitly not as good as Top Gear on the other side of the pond, but its not that bad. I know I'm just a redneck at heart - but you have to admit making fun of GM cars for 45 mins during last nights episode was pretty funny. On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I found Top Gear on Netflix and watched a couple of episodes (season 12, looks like 13 is not on streaming yet) last night. They can say some dirty words on Brit TV that they can't say here, and make allusions to things verboten. Quite entertaining. I watched them on the laptop, gotta get one of those boxes you can hook to the TV and watch them directly on the rabbit ears. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
You two really need to give it a rest. I think we get it by now. --R On 12/20/2010 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it's a great tune though, no? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.comwrote: Rusty wrote: Why can't we be friends - War *That* is the beginning of all this pc garbage. The reason for the current meersaydees-fray is that we have a decade and half of pent up pc holdings that have had no outlet, so now the outlet comes out against even the most amiable amongst us, by the most amiable in our midst. PC has run its course. In fact, western kulture has run its course. OT - DC has known we have been done for two decades - viz the 'legislation' that they fool around with. They know this kulture has been on the downhill slide for 20 years and have been aiding and abetting it. Now, a small number of us plebes are beginning to be keen to this endeavor, although it is wy too far gone to arrest. We are all niggers expecting the big-mama gov't to provide for each one of us - and for free. Does anyone hold up their hand and say ax the bush era tax cut scheme? - I thought not. Pile on to the ruination of the kulture - we all be niggas now! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
you don't like music? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You two really need to give it a rest. I think we get it by now. --R On 12/20/2010 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it's a great tune though, no? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.com wrote: Rusty wrote: Why can't we be friends - War *That* is the beginning of all this pc garbage. The reason for the current meersaydees-fray is that we have a decade and half of pent up pc holdings that have had no outlet, so now the outlet comes out against even the most amiable amongst us, by the most amiable in our midst. PC has run its course. In fact, western kulture has run its course. OT - DC has known we have been done for two decades - viz the 'legislation' that they fool around with. They know this kulture has been on the downhill slide for 20 years and have been aiding and abetting it. Now, a small number of us plebes are beginning to be keen to this endeavor, although it is wy too far gone to arrest. We are all niggers expecting the big-mama gov't to provide for each one of us - and for free. Does anyone hold up their hand and say ax the bush era tax cut scheme? - I thought not. Pile on to the ruination of the kulture - we all be niggas now! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Well it was good enough to give me some good laughs. Its not all a rip off to me, cause I don't get to see Top Gear UK. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Except that the whole thing was stolen from Top Gear UK when they spent a half hour making fun of British Leyland. They stole EVERYTHING, it was an event by event copy but with hosts that have no chemistry. Why must American shows steal from British shows and then do it poorly? At least the Aussies make up new stunts... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:54:52 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlkti=qxncy9ny98yrt_lu8mjphvr5lnwwqs6nag...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay - Its definitly not as good as Top Gear on the other side of the pond, but its not that bad. I know I'm just a redneck at heart - but you have to admit making fun of GM cars for 45 mins during last nights episode was pretty funny. On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I found Top Gear on Netflix and watched a couple of episodes (season 12, looks like 13 is not on streaming yet) last night. They can say some dirty words on Brit TV that they can't say here, and make allusions to things verboten. Quite entertaining. I watched them on the laptop, gotta get one of those boxes you can hook to the TV and watch them directly on the rabbit ears. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
Gary Hurst wrote: it's a great tune though, no? I know you're working for the CIA they wouldn't have you in the Mafia ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Go to YouTube and search for top gear british leyland challenge It's side-splitting. Allan On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:17 -0600, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Well it was good enough to give me some good laughs. Its not all a rip off to me, cause I don't get to see Top Gear UK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
What technique are you using to apply the stuff. It lays down too rough and bumpy to look entirely correct. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2010, at 10:48 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: 3M Rocker Panel Spray, part # 05911. You can use it over or under a paint. I used this to recoat repaired rockers on a number of MBs over the years, and it gives you the exact texture that the OEM stuff did. I usually put it down over primer, then shot the requisite MB flat black chassis paint over it. Looked just like it came from the factory. Dan --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:17 AM Yes, that's the part I'm referring to. I couldn't quite make out what it was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, then painted over. A small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite hard, but I suspect that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it in some way. Thanks for the tips. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas down low? It is basically painted over undercoating. The regular off the shelf rubberized undercoating won't do. There are several options available that can duplicate this undercoating although I have been unable to 100% faithfully copy what was there. The original stuff is very rubbery and pliable and no product that I have found has had that quality. Anyway, I have used a variety of products. Wurth made a product which is meant to be applied with a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and stippled over the surface to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed undercoating. 3M has a body shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. 3M also has a rocker panel spray which also takes some finishing over with a brush to smooth out the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another product that can be used but again you have to be creative in its application to get a factory look. All these products then get primed and painted body color. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like to be better informed about the right way to do it on certain models, so I can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done. As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing some rust. I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past that have caused water to settle. I did notice the rubber spout under the side in questions is missing. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth. But I recall they were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about anything specific on a car. I did have some issues with the idea that anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned. But he did alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of good information... but he wasn't right about everything, and even a suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems. I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to make dieseltech (and any real serious projects of my own) work. I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 years? I bought my first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to legally drive. I grew up in a W123 and learned to drive in a W126. I'm in my 30s now. I'm an engineer and I work in the automotive industry, as some of you may know. (Which is why I took the attack on the engineers who design these cars personally) I've been working on many
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
The reason American TV gets away with being a crappy remake of somebody else is that most Americans aren't really sure there are any other countries in the world... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk98rm1wng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRu_i8j63sfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDPulvdfvsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkWIX4DcMGofeature=related -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:17:26 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlktimibkzu_szx+vyuqsmqu8h-hophaop0rwbf4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well it was good enough to give me some good laughs. Its not all a rip off to me, cause I don't get to see Top Gear UK. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Except that the whole thing was stolen from Top Gear UK when they spent a half hour making fun of British Leyland. They stole EVERYTHING, it was an event by event copy but with hosts that have no chemistry. Why must American shows steal from British shows and then do it poorly? At least the Aussies make up new stunts... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Series 10, Episode 7 (2007) is on Netflix --R On 12/20/2010 2:11 PM, Allan Streib wrote: top gear british leyland challenge ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
Thanks for all the kind words, guys! Jaime On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, I appreciate your prior contributions and I have always had a LOT of respect for you. After this post, my respect is restored, and I ask you to consider remaining. I was really surprised and shocked that you chose to ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Geez - This list is really getting to have no resonable content and nothing but negative attack replys to any opinon. Starting to sound like political attack ads the week before an election. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason American TV gets away with being a crappy remake of somebody else is that most Americans aren't really sure there are any other countries in the world... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk98rm1wng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRu_i8j63sfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDPulvdfvsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkWIX4DcMGofeature=related -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:17:26 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlktimibkzu_szx+vyuqsmqu8h-hophaop0rwbf4...@mail.gmail.comaanlktimibkzu_szx%2bvyuqsmqu8h-hophaop0rwbf4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well it was good enough to give me some good laughs. Its not all a rip off to me, cause I don't get to see Top Gear UK. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Except that the whole thing was stolen from Top Gear UK when they spent a half hour making fun of British Leyland. They stole EVERYTHING, it was an event by event copy but with hosts that have no chemistry. Why must American shows steal from British shows and then do it poorly? At least the Aussies make up new stunts... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
Thanks Dan. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 10:48, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: 3M Rocker Panel Spray, part # 05911. You can use it over or under a paint. I used this to recoat repaired rockers on a number of MBs over the years, and it gives you the exact texture that the OEM stuff did. I usually put it down over primer, then shot the requisite MB flat black chassis paint over it. Looked just like it came from the factory. Dan --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:17 AM Yes, that's the part I'm referring to. I couldn't quite make out what it was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, then painted over. A small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite hard, but I suspect that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it in some way. Thanks for the tips. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas down low? It is basically painted over undercoating. The regular off the shelf rubberized undercoating won't do. There are several options available that can duplicate this undercoating although I have been unable to 100% faithfully copy what was there. The original stuff is very rubbery and pliable and no product that I have found has had that quality. Anyway, I have used a variety of products. Wurth made a product which is meant to be applied with a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and stippled over the surface to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed undercoating. 3M has a body shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. 3M also has a rocker panel spray which also takes some finishing over with a brush to smooth out the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another product that can be used but again you have to be creative in its application to get a factory look. All these products then get primed and painted body color. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like to be better informed about the right way to do it on certain models, so I can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done. As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing some rust. I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past that have caused water to settle. I did notice the rubber spout under the side in questions is missing. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth. But I recall they were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about anything specific on a car. I did have some issues with the idea that anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned. But he did alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of good information... but he wasn't right about everything, and even a suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems. I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to make dieseltech (and any real serious projects of my own) work. I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 years? I bought my first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to legally drive. I grew
Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate
I have used the rattle can version with great success. It's too messy in bulk to goober up a good spray gun. I just masked carefully and sprayed in light passes until I go the coverage and effect I wanted. The stuff looked as good as the original, I thought. I have used the Wurth brand equivalent, too, but I'm a 3M snob when it comes to body work stuff. Dan --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 3:40 PM Thanks Dan. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 10:48, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: 3M Rocker Panel Spray, part # 05911. You can use it over or under a paint. I used this to recoat repaired rockers on a number of MBs over the years, and it gives you the exact texture that the OEM stuff did. I usually put it down over primer, then shot the requisite MB flat black chassis paint over it. Looked just like it came from the factory. Dan --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:17 AM Yes, that's the part I'm referring to. I couldn't quite make out what it was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, then painted over. A small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite hard, but I suspect that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it in some way. Thanks for the tips. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas down low? It is basically painted over undercoating. The regular off the shelf rubberized undercoating won't do. There are several options available that can duplicate this undercoating although I have been unable to 100% faithfully copy what was there. The original stuff is very rubbery and pliable and no product that I have found has had that quality. Anyway, I have used a variety of products. Wurth made a product which is meant to be applied with a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and stippled over the surface to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed undercoating. 3M has a body shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. 3M also has a rocker panel spray which also takes some finishing over with a brush to smooth out the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another product that can be used but again you have to be creative in its application to get a factory look. All these products then get primed and painted body color. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like to be better informed about the right way to do it on certain models, so I can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done. As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing some rust. I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past that have caused water to settle. I did notice the rubber spout under the side in questions is missing. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
Ed - Haven't had any new posts since this one on 12/17 - I know ya'll aren’t being THAT quiet. Kaleb -- Ever find a Drivers Door Lock actuator? Thx LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: E M Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde Keep it clean now boys, family list here you know! hee hee Ed 300E On 17 December 2010 00:40, relng...@aol.com wrote: Oh oh. Not Ru-Glyde, but Sil-Glyde. Had a tube of it for decades. Defintely superior to something that will run to the bottom. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
Hi Larry, There has been quite a bit of traffic on the Benz list. If you don't start to receive posts soon, drop me a note, and I'll forward it to Kaleb and see if he can help. I average about 25 or so posts a day from the B list. Take care Larry, Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 17:38, l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Ed - Haven't had any new posts since this one on 12/17 - I know ya'll aren’t being THAT quiet. Kaleb -- Ever find a Drivers Door Lock actuator? Thx LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: E M Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde Keep it clean now boys, family list here you know! hee hee Ed 300E On 17 December 2010 00:40, relng...@aol.com wrote: Oh oh. Not Ru-Glyde, but Sil-Glyde. Had a tube of it for decades. Defintely superior to something that will run to the bottom. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 wagon central locking repair
Dieselvolk, Several days ago I found that the central locking on my 124 wagon had ceased to function. It has always been partially crippled, only working from the driver's door, but that was good enough to limp along, but now even the driver's door didn't lock or unlock. I studied the manuals to see how it all works, and found a nice trouble shooting guide. Step 1: confirm power and ground to the pump. Pump is located under carpet under right rear seat, which requires removing the door jamb and pulling up the carpet. Chinee plastic wedges from Harbor Freight do the job nicely. Ground = OK, but power = 0.41 volts = fail. Fuse was fine. The only other connection point labeled is X30, a big junction under the dash somewhere. FSM has a picture which indicates behind the parking brake pedal, so I started removing layers there; driver's carpet, Styrofoam, floor padding, and finally the dead-pedal plastic, which revealed X30. Took a little testing to determine which connector of the six is the right one (hint: only has pin 1 with red/white for power, and pin 3 for ground which of course is brown). No continuity between pin 1 at the X30 connector and the power pin at the pump, so the wire is bad somewhere in between. Note that there is a multi-junction point somewhere between X30 and the pump which feeds power to driver's door, passenger door, and rear gate actuators, but no hint as to where that is in the FSM. Hand-over-hand along the wiring loom would require pulling out the seats and pulling up the carpet, which I don't have time for. If the inner panels for the doors were pulled, I could test at the actuators to see which ones are getting power, which might also help determine the fault location(s), but I don't want to do that yet. I decided to run a new power wire to see if I could restore function. I used a pin salvaged from the old '95 E300 wiring harness at the X30 end of the new wire to connect to 12v power, and then added the new wire to the pin at the pump, so that power is fed down both ends of the old wire. It works! Ran the new wire underneath the rear seat over the left rear door, and then pulled up the door jambs and fed the wire forward to the driver's foot well. Put all the layers and door jambs back in place, and the only place the new wire is visible is at the left rear door jamb (about two inches show between seat cushion and door jamb). Not a perfect fix, but good enough for now. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
hursty wrote: it's a great tune though, no? fo sho. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
--R- wrote: I think we get it by now. hmmm... I don't get it yet. Give us all a hint? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Hi Peter, In re-reading I can see where I look pretty bad in my post. My apologies, my back is playing up and I had to get out the snowblower and plow today for a storm coming up tomorrow so I was more stern than I intended. Seriously though, watch the clips I posted in order top to bottom, theres no comparison... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:35:14 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlktimab-uef6flefmsc22ic2siicc3kzksnvpwm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Geez - This list is really getting to have no resonable content and nothing but negative attack replys to any opinon. Starting to sound like political attack ads the week before an election. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason American TV gets away with being a crappy remake of somebody else is that most Americans aren't really sure there are any other countries in the world... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk98rm1wng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRu_i8j63sfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDPulvdfvsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkWIX4DcMGofeature=related -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
I've yet to see the aus or usa versions(what's cable tv?), but the usa one has been getting below steller reviews in every forum thread I've seen. Maybe it just needs time to mellow, and/or set? Walt, who will try to snag some episodes off the net tomorrow... On Dec 20, 2010 6:07 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Peter, In re-reading I can see where I look pretty bad in my post. My apologies, my back is playing up and I had to get out the snowblower and plow today for a storm coming up tomorrow so I was more stern than I intended. Seriously though, watch the clips I posted in order top to bottom, theres no comparison... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:35:14 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlktimab-uef6flefmsc22ic2siicc3kzksnvpwm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Geez - This list is really getting to have no resonable content and nothing but negative attack replys to any opinon. Starting to sound like political attack ads the week before an election. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason American TV gets away with being a crappy remake of somebody else is that most Americans aren't really sure there are any other countries in the world... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk98rm1wng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRu_i8j63sfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDPulvdfvsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkWIX4DcMGofeature=related -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No Apologies
You and Jabba have various observations and opinions (which you have been sharing ad nauseum on this list) arising since his unbanning, which are of little use or interest to almost all others on this list, and are therefore generally useless to the primary purpose of the list. The test to discover which is of little interest is to ask yourself, Would this comment be of little use or interest to the list? If you have to ask, the answer is YES and it should then not be shared. QED. Jabba was to apologize and play nice, which has been marginally successful the last few days until it degenerated into whatever silliness. You are not helping his rehabilitation. And you have used impolite words on this list which could be, no ARE, offensive to others. I have no other hints to offer if these do not get through. I am hoping this msg is of use to the list (which will be determined if the foolishness ends). --R On 12/20/2010 5:57 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R- wrote: I think we get it by now. hmmm... I don't get it yet. Give us all a hint? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
Received an MBZ email from E M (Ed) that was followed by a series of characters and numbers. When I tried to open it, a field popped up saying: To display language characters correctly you need to install the following language pack. On the next line it said Chinese simplified. The line would not patch into this email and I didn't install the language pack. Malware? Gerry From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Hi Larry, There has been quite a bit of traffic on the Benz list. If you don't start to receive posts soon, drop me a note, and I'll forward it to Kaleb and see if he can help. I average about 25 or so posts a day from the B list. Take care Larry, Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 17:38, l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Ed - Haven't had any new posts since this one on 12/17 - I know ya'll aren’t being THAT quiet. Kaleb -- Ever find a Drivers Door Lock actuator? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
Gerry, I received the email via the list, with a bunch of asian characters in the title. I figured it was a spam to the list. I replied with, we don't want any of your junk OEM parts or fuses I would not open any attachments, as I'm sure the original source is spam or some other junk. Apologizes in advance if replying to it has caused any further distribution of it, or trouble to the list. Anyone who receives it, bin it! Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 18:59, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Received an MBZ email from E M (Ed) that was followed by a series of characters and numbers. When I tried to open it, a field popped up saying: To display language characters correctly you need to install the following language pack. On the next line it said Chinese simplified. The line would not patch into this email and I didn't install the language pack. Malware? Gerry From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Hi Larry, There has been quite a bit of traffic on the Benz list. If you don't start to receive posts soon, drop me a note, and I'll forward it to Kaleb and see if he can help. I average about 25 or so posts a day from the B list. Take care Larry, Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 17:38, l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Ed - Haven't had any new posts since this one on 12/17 - I know ya'll aren’t being THAT quiet. Kaleb -- Ever find a Drivers Door Lock actuator? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No Apologies
i don't think i've shared very much so far. mostly just been insulted by the penoffs of the world. i think like many here you only hope to create trouble On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You and Jabba have various observations and opinions (which you have been sharing ad nauseum on this list) arising since his unbanning, which are of little use or interest to almost all others on this list, and are therefore generally useless to the primary purpose of the list. The test to discover which is of little interest is to ask yourself, Would this comment be of little use or interest to the list? If you have to ask, the answer is YES and it should then not be shared. QED. Jabba was to apologize and play nice, which has been marginally successful the last few days until it degenerated into whatever silliness. You are not helping his rehabilitation. And you have used impolite words on this list which could be, no ARE, offensive to others. I have no other hints to offer if these do not get through. I am hoping this msg is of use to the list (which will be determined if the foolishness ends). --R On 12/20/2010 5:57 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R- wrote: I think we get it by now. hmmm... I don't get it yet. Give us all a hint? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
Don't think so - my 'puter displayed the Chinese characters just fine, no installations required. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 7:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde Received an MBZ email from E M (Ed) that was followed by a series of characters and numbers. When I tried to open it, a field popped up saying: To display language characters correctly you need to install the following language pack. On the next line it said Chinese simplified. The line would not patch into this email and I didn't install the language pack. Malware? Gerry From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Hi Larry, There has been quite a bit of traffic on the Benz list. If you don't start to receive posts soon, drop me a note, and I'll forward it to Kaleb and see if he can help. I average about 25 or so posts a day from the B list. Take care Larry, Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 17:38, l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Ed - Haven't had any new posts since this one on 12/17 - I know ya'll aren't being THAT quiet. Kaleb -- Ever find a Drivers Door Lock actuator? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde
I just checked my bin. The email as I received it, displayed the characters in the title bar, and a hyperlink within the text of the email, which I didn't open. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 19:33, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Don't think so - my 'puter displayed the Chinese characters just fine, no installations required. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 7:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sil-Glyde Received an MBZ email from E M (Ed) that was followed by a series of characters and numbers. When I tried to open it, a field popped up saying: To display language characters correctly you need to install the following language pack. On the next line it said Chinese simplified. The line would not patch into this email and I didn't install the language pack. Malware? Gerry From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Hi Larry, There has been quite a bit of traffic on the Benz list. If you don't start to receive posts soon, drop me a note, and I'll forward it to Kaleb and see if he can help. I average about 25 or so posts a day from the B list. Take care Larry, Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 17:38, l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Ed - Haven't had any new posts since this one on 12/17 - I know ya'll aren't being THAT quiet. Kaleb -- Ever find a Drivers Door Lock actuator? Thx LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
he is saying he hates us and wants us to stfu. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: --R- wrote: I think we get it by now. hmmm... I don't get it yet. Give us all a hint? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Thanks - Accepted. I saw some top gear from years ago about making a couple of limo's from production cars the best being the two saab 9000 welded together. Classic. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Peter, In re-reading I can see where I look pretty bad in my post. My apologies, my back is playing up and I had to get out the snowblower and plow today for a storm coming up tomorrow so I was more stern than I intended. Seriously though, watch the clips I posted in order top to bottom, theres no comparison... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:35:14 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear Message-ID: aanlktimab-uef6flefmsc22ic2siicc3kzksnvpwm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Geez - This list is really getting to have no resonable content and nothing but negative attack replys to any opinon. Starting to sound like political attack ads the week before an election. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason American TV gets away with being a crappy remake of somebody else is that most Americans aren't really sure there are any other countries in the world... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk98rm1wng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRu_i8j63sfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDPulvdfvsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkWIX4DcMGofeature=related -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No Apologies
Do we all really have to act like this? It's like watching a cat fight in highschool, but wihout the bouncing boobies... Walt On Dec 20, 2010 7:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Curt Raymond wrote: Seriously though, watch the clips I posted in order top to bottom, theres no comparison... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk98rm1wng I can't reconcile what they paid for those heaps with the 800 quid that Viki paid for the 300TE. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
So, where is this Aussie version? I do remember seeing a youtube of a young woman auditioning for it, but haven't came across the finished product - Hendrick No cable here either -- it's OtA or Internet. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: I've yet to see the aus or usa versions(what's cable tv?), but the usa one has been getting below steller reviews in every forum thread I've seen. Maybe it just needs time to mellow, and/or set? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Wasn't the the woman from NZ, and featured a 600 SWB in the background? Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 21:18, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, where is this Aussie version? I do remember seeing a youtube of a young woman auditioning for it, but haven't came across the finished product - Hendrick No cable here either -- it's OtA or Internet. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: I've yet to see the aus or usa versions(what's cable tv?), but the usa one has been getting below steller reviews in every forum thread I've seen. Maybe it just needs time to mellow, and/or set? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
I think so. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:25 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't the the woman from NZ, and featured a 600 SWB in the background? Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 21:18, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, where is this Aussie version? I do remember seeing a youtube of a young woman auditioning for it, but haven't came across the finished product - Hendrick No cable here either -- it's OtA or Internet. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: I've yet to see the aus or usa versions(what's cable tv?), but the usa one has been getting below steller reviews in every forum thread I've seen. Maybe it just needs time to mellow, and/or set? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Source for fan motor brushes
The fan motor in the 00 Dodge caravan has apparently worn down its brushes. Any idea where I might find brushes for such a thing? I need to take it apart, make the fix and get it back together within a day as we are short vehicles this time of year, and the 300D is down too. If there is a way to have them in hand before I start, it would be a great advantage. TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies
Okay, guys. One of us has been kind enough to let me know that my recent response had words that were offensive. There are meanings to the word that should be clear - in context. However, I had to look up the word in urban slang online to verify that there are quasi-serious meanings that are not pejorative. Following is an urban dictionary meaning, fyi. nigga, niggah etc.(noun) 1.describes an ignorant, uneducated, foolish individual regardless of race, color, religion, sexual orientation, etc. 2. endearing term between two or more individual to describe a friendship or bond. This is not a civil war issue - this has morphed in today's world to a meaning that is rational and is used to clearly express a disdain for attitudes that wherein we previously honored production has morphed to honoring the accumulation of handouts, viz. wall street bailout, social security, medicare, unemployment. Obviously, DC has a *huge* burden to bear in this morph as they are incapable of purchasing a $22 Estwing hammer, but rather purchase the $987 hammer that is of inferior quality - that type of stupidity and flagrance breeds our cultural attitude morph. And... lest we think all things mercedes cars is the *only* subject matter here - I think not. We have strayed from mercedes often and I have learned much non-mercedes stuff here and thank the collective knowledge and attitude of all of us here. I find this community to be intelligent and informed on much mercedes stuff as well as good attitudes about this culture and our current failings. If these things are not carried forward here - where? If not now - when? If not us - who? DanG aka mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
Is this the HF ball joint press tool that people are using? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/steering/3-in-1-ball-joint-u-joint-c-frame-press-service-kit-38335.html Other than the fittings, how is it different from a large c-clamp (6)? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Source for fan motor brushes
My local hardware store carries a small variety of brushes, in the same part of the store where they sell individual nuts and bolts and other fastener-type things. Without getting the old brushes out and taking them for comparison, I don't know how you'd know whether they had any compatible ones. Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: The fan motor in the 00 Dodge caravan has apparently worn down its brushes. Any idea where I might find brushes for such a thing? I need to take it apart, make the fix and get it back together within a day as we are short vehicles this time of year, and the 300D is down too. If there is a way to have them in hand before I start, it would be a great advantage. TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
OK Don, et al. That's the one that I used on my 201s. Air hammer out and press in using a 1.5 black iron plumbing end cap, works good. I have a picture if you would like it. There was some complaint about its' size (over 1mb) so if you would like a copy I could send it direct. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 12/20/2010 9:54 PM, OK Don wrote: Is this the HF ball joint press tool that people are using? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/steering/3-in-1-ball-joint-u-joint-c-frame-press-service-kit-38335.html Other than the fittings, how is it different from a large c-clamp (6)? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
Yassh! that be it! I got mine for $40 on sale about 8 months ago. Is this the HF ball joint press tool that people are using? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/steering/3-in-1-ball-joint-u-joint-c-frame-press-service-kit-38335.html Other than the fittings, how is it different from a large c-clamp (6)? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Source for fan motor brushes
That is why I was hoping someone knew of a listing of size or someplace that sells them online. My local hardware store carries a small variety of brushes, in the same part of the store where they sell individual nuts and bolts and other fastener-type things. Without getting the old brushes out and taking them for comparison, I don't know how you'd know whether they had any compatible ones. Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: The fan motor in the 00 Dodge caravan has apparently worn down its brushes. Any idea where I might find brushes for such a thing? I need to take it apart, make the fix and get it back together within a day as we are short vehicles this time of year, and the 300D is down too. If there is a way to have them in hand before I start, it would be a great advantage. TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No Apologies
it appears that many of you guys seem to have to act like this. gordon is viciously savaged. moderator again asleep; at the wheel. it is like the worst sort of playground the way you guys bully people. you are lowlives On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Do we all really have to act like this? It's like watching a cat fight in highschool, but wihout the bouncing boobies... Walt On Dec 20, 2010 7:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
Thanks - I think I can figure it out -- I'll holler if I can't though! On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: OK Don, et al. That's the one that I used on my 201s. Air hammer out and press in using a 1.5 black iron plumbing end cap, works good. I have a picture if you would like it. There was some complaint about its' size (over 1mb) so if you would like a copy I could send it direct. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fun car?
This is an interesting frankenbenz -- might be fun (until you need to work on it). http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/2123029972.html -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American Top Gear
Yesh - the americans couldnt' even come up with thier own jokes. I have seen borrowed ideas but thats pretty crazy. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:28 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think so. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:25 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't the the woman from NZ, and featured a 600 SWB in the background? Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 21:18, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, where is this Aussie version? I do remember seeing a youtube of a young woman auditioning for it, but haven't came across the finished product - Hendrick No cable here either -- it's OtA or Internet. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: I've yet to see the aus or usa versions(what's cable tv?), but the usa one has been getting below steller reviews in every forum thread I've seen. Maybe it just needs time to mellow, and/or set? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apologies ADMIN Read
This post which I did not quote due to the offensive racial slang is NOT acceptable, PERIOD. Any further posts along these lines will result in expulsion from the list. On 12/20/2010 11:05 AM, Mountain Man wrote: Rusty wrote: Why can't we be friends - War *That* is the beginning of all this pc garbage. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No Apologies
OK, this problem has been solved. On 12/20/2010 6:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i don't think i've shared very much so far. mostly just been insulted by the penoffs of the world. i think like many here you only hope to create trouble -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No Apologies
Walt, rest assured I just cured that problem, we should not have anymore of these sorts of posts. On 12/20/2010 7:18 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Do we all really have to act like this? It's like watching a cat fight in highschool, but wihout the bouncing boobies... Walt On Dec 20, 2010 7:18 PM, Gary Hurstjabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3327 - Release Date: 12/20/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
yep, that is the one I used to do the ball joints on a 124 On 12/20/2010 8:54 PM, OK Don wrote: Is this the HF ball joint press tool that people are using? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/steering/3-in-1-ball-joint-u-joint-c-frame-press-service-kit-38335.html Other than the fittings, how is it different from a large c-clamp (6)? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:37:00 -0500 Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: OK Don, et al. That's the one that I used on my 201s. Air hammer out and press in using a 1.5 black iron plumbing end cap, works good. I have a picture if you would like it. There was some complaint about its' size (over 1mb) so if you would like a copy I could send it direct. No need to send it direct; there is no complaint about 1 MB in size. There IS a complaint, however, with the apostrophe on its. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Source for fan motor brushes
Buy the largest set you can find, within reason, and go at them with a hacksaw/file. Wastefull, yes, but works. If they are too small, bring em back and swap for larger ones. Walt, been there, done that on a Honda 4wheeler starter. On Dec 20, 2010 10:38 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That is why I was hoping someone knew of a listing of size or someplace that sells them online. My local hardware store carries a small variety of brushes, in the same part of the store where they sell individual nuts and bolts and other fastener-type things. Without getting the old brushes out and taking them for comparison, I don't know how you'd know whether they had any compatible ones. Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: The fan motor in the 00 Dodge caravan has apparently worn down its brushes. Any idea where I might find brushes for such a thing? I need to take it apart, make the fix and get it back together within a day as we are short vehicles this time of year, and the 300D is down too. If there is a way to have them in hand before I start, it would be a great advantage. TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
OK Don wrote: Is this the HF ball joint press tool that people are using? http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/steering/3-in-1-ball-joint-u-joint-c-frame-press-service-kit-38335.html Other than the fittings, how is it different from a large c-clamp (6)? It's the connection to the fittings that make the difference. Mine worked - once. I had to sledge-hammer it back into shape about 4 times during the pressing of one ball joint. The joint went in. I don't know that the C part is of any use. I have considered welding some _heavy_ side braces onto it... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension rebuild - who's BTDT?
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:33:35 -0700 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:37:00 -0500 Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: OK Don, et al. That's the one that I used on my 201s. Air hammer out and press in using a 1.5 black iron plumbing end cap, works good. I have a picture if you would like it. There was some complaint about its' size (over 1mb) so if you would like a copy I could send it direct. No need to send it direct; there is no complaint about 1 MB in size. That should read, No need to NOT send it direct ... There IS a complaint, however, with the apostrophe on its. See http://www.angryflower.com/aposter.html Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Question for Jaime and others w. MBUSA connections - or - How to get NLA parts demand onto the MB radar
The MB policy of actually supporting their classic community is brilliant, and I am willing to put my money (within reason) on it. As I posted before, I'm becoming impatient with aftermarket parts of questionable provenance and will pay a premium for OE quality. A couple of times now I've gone to order something for my W115 and have been told by the dealer that the part is NLA and we even checked with the Classic Centre. Two parts that come to mind are the rear seat pads and the speaker grill assembly (the one that always shrivels up) on later W114/5 dashboards. Demand for some items like seat pads must be increasing after being close to nil for many years. When I did the interior in my W115 I got what World Uplholstery said was their last set of rear pads, one of which was a NOS genuine part, the other had served as their fitting model when they were testing the covers. A friend is getting set to do his W115, and World confirmed that the pads are NLA. Same story from GAHH and Mercedes directly. A while ago I happened upon a note from Tom Hansen at the Classic Centre that the trim pieces for the R107 were once again available after being NLA for a while. So my question: if the part is NLA, but Mercedes-Benz is restarting production on certain items according to demand, how does one ensure that this demand is actually registered with the company. Is there a way of getting onto a list or something so that these parts become available? Or do I just send a note to Tom? D. PS: to the joy of W116 owners, it appears that those formerly NLA rear seat pads are once again available in the aftermarket (and a bargain!). Not sure how they'll hold up over time, but better than crumbling vestiges of the original... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
