Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
No refunds here that I know of. If you sell the car before the registration expires, you simply lose the value of what you paid. Some states, like Indiana, had a system where the cost of your annual registration was based on the value of the vehicle, rather than a flat fee. If you had a new or fairly new car, you might have to pay thousands of dollars each year for your registration. Fees leveled off after 12 years. I am not sure if they still do it this way or not. I don't think they do. Dan Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: No, car rego is controlled by the states, however there is a memorandum of understanding to enable people to buy cars interstate. Within the federal law there is a section that states that a state cannot hamper free trade, this is a simplification of the law but it's purpose is to stop a state from imposing a tax/duty on products from another state. Further they way it works here is that the old rego is cancelled in the respective state, you can even get a refund for the unused portion and then you get new rego and have to pay tax on the purchase price, which is stated on the ownership transfer form. Hendrik who hates paying tax but it's the price of civilisation On 08/04/12 12:06, Dan Penoff wrote: Hendrik, The problem exists because of the separation of federal and state governments here when it comes to regulating commerce within their respective state. You have federal laws governing such things, where in our case they are controlled by the individual states. Each state has different laws regarding titling and registration of vehicles, and it's a very complex thing. Part of the problem originates from the fact that registrations and titles are a revenue stream for each state, so they guard their individual processes very closely. For example, in Florida and Wisconsin, two states I have been a legal resident of, if you purchase a vehicle out of state within six months of becoming a state resident, you have to pay sales tax on the vehicle equal to what would be charged by the respective state. For example, if I bought a car while living in Wisconsin and moved to Florida within six months of buying the car in Wisconsin, when I go to register the car in Florida as a legal resident I would have to pay the difference (if any) between the sales tax I paid on it in Wisconsin and the sales tax in Florida. If Wisconsin's sales tax is 4% and Florida's is 6%, I would have to pay Florida the 2% difference when I register the car there. This is an example of how convoluted our state regulations can be Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
If you are making a simple variable DC power supply, yes. Dan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Does 3500 Microfarad count as BHC? I can buy one on fleabay for $10 or 3 for $20. I was thinking maybe buying 3 and using as many as needed. I found 50 Amp bridge rectifiers. I figured I could use 2 in parallel to be able to pass 50 to 70 amps. So wire the variac to the rectifiers, (AC side) then hang the BHC across the DC side of the rectifiers. Is that right?(DC to the iron cathode and anode.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:29:06 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Does 3500 Microfarad count as BHC? Yes. WHAT VOLTAGE RATING? I can buy one on fleabay for $10 or 3 for $20. I was thinking maybe buying 3 and using as many as needed. I found 50 Amp bridge rectifiers. I figured I could use 2 in parallel to be able to pass 50 to 70 amps. Paralleling rectifiers can be tricky and is not recommended (you can easily get thermal run-away, where one bridge is taking all the current). The original article said 70 V and 30 A. I'd use just one. You will need to make sure the rectifier has a good heat sink -- at 30 A, you will be dissipating roughly 60 W in the bridge and want to keep the bridge's temperature below 70 deg.C. or so. So wire the variac to the rectifiers, (AC side) then hang the BHC across the DC side of the rectifiers. Is that right?(DC to the iron cathode and anode.) Yes, that is correct. Just remember both output leads will be hot with respect to ground. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
te: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:48:32 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: 067b5ef2-5876-4283-b612-16ddf251e...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That doesn't make a lot of sense. I work a block away from the county central offices, and there is a DMV branch there that's totally dead, even at lunchtime. I asked them how I should deal with the purchase and they really didn't know. The catch-22 regarding temporary tags came up, and the person there admitted that they didn't know how you would go about it, as it's impossible under the current laws to get a temporary tag if the car is not physically in the state or your possession. Duh. I called PA and they were equally clueless. It wasn't until we were at the title place in PA that the offer of a temporary tag even came up. Dan Right... the Pennsylvania bureaucracy is a special kind of confusing. For certain types of title operations you go to private companies; for certain types of drivers license things you can go to private companies, online or the state (in local centers) and for some things you can only go to the state capital by mail. And it's quite common for the people who are actively involved to tell you have to go to somewhere else for something they're responsible for. I knew that temporary tags existed for transit however I thought they used to cost 15 or 20 bucks. It seems someone in the state had a brilliant eureka moment where they thought they could raise revenue and whack out-of-state people by raising the fee by five or six times. And if I was Dan I would've said the heck with it too. Given how dramatically the fee was raised I wonder how many others say the heck with it and if today they collect as much as they used to under the old structure. Tony Wirtel Former '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
Sorry! It is 450V rated On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:29:06 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Does 3500 Microfarad count as BHC? Yes. WHAT VOLTAGE RATING? I can buy one on fleabay for $10 or 3 for $20. I was thinking maybe buying 3 and using as many as needed. I found 50 Amp bridge rectifiers. I figured I could use 2 in parallel to be able to pass 50 to 70 amps. Paralleling rectifiers can be tricky and is not recommended (you can easily get thermal run-away, where one bridge is taking all the current). The original article said 70 V and 30 A. I'd use just one. You will need to make sure the rectifier has a good heat sink -- at 30 A, you will be dissipating roughly 60 W in the bridge and want to keep the bridge's temperature below 70 deg.C. or so. So wire the variac to the rectifiers, (AC side) then hang the BHC across the DC side of the rectifiers. Is that right?(DC to the iron cathode and anode.) Yes, that is correct. Just remember both output leads will be hot with respect to ground. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Actually a lot of what I'm seeing here makes me think the New England states are pretty civilized. When I bought my '83 240D I paid upfront, they sent me the title, I got plates, took the bus to NJ and drove the car back to MA, very simple. All this fluff about needing to see the car to prove the VIN got taken care of 7 days later when I got the car inspected. The inspection stations here are quite un-corrupt. Even back when I had a bought and paid for inspection station there were things I couldn't have done, rule #1 was that paperwork had to be in order... -Curt Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:07:37 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: a06240803cba6adf5cb28@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed NJ is very strict... I've been involved in a few situations that didn't go well a few years ago... luckily it was never me directly. In one case, the car was impounded because we couldn't provide proof of insurance (but we did have insurance, just no proof). Other times resulted in lots of tickets, but no impound. In NJ, the key is insurance. If you don't have it, you're in trouble. Most state police cars now drive around with the license plate scanning technology. So you use an expired plate or one from another car, they catch you just by driving by. I suppose if you use a valid plate from a very similar car, you can get away with it. But I don't take any chances now. In state, I always arrange to buy cars during the week so I can goto the local DMV and register it with insurance before driving. Or I just take the title and come back for the car a few days later after I register it. Out of state is still difficult. NJ is another state that will offer non-residents 30 day temp tags (with proof of insurance), but nothing for people in state. Jaime Guess I am lucky. The one time i got a car from east of the Appalachians, It didn't run so I had no choice but to pay to have it hauled . Seems beat to avoid buying cars from East of the Appalachians, as whacko state laws originate there or Kalyfornya I still liked my old system, with old cars that had the serial number plate screwed on: I swapped the plates and TYP plate, (before VIN) and never told the insco. Same car.just changed color... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
One of the things that people not from here don't realize is that the Northeast is New York and SOUTH to Virginia. North of New York is New England, NOT the same thing. Aroostook County, Maine is a whole different thing entirely. Look up the bloodless war of Aroostook secession... -Curt Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:49:26 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: 20120407214926.0b997649.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:18:04 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia So are all of the northeastern states cut from the same cloth? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Those private companies in PA are most often members of the Commonwealth and make regular trips to Harrisburg to do their business. They take your paperwork with them and process it for you for a fee so you don't have to go to Hburg to do it yourself. Takes 3 days to do in PA what you can do in most states in minutes. Mike On Apr 8, 2012 9:36 AM, Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com wrote: te: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:48:32 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: 067b5ef2-5876-4283-b612-16ddf251e...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That doesn't make a lot of sense. I work a block away from the county central offices, and there is a DMV branch there that's totally dead, even at lunchtime. I asked them how I should deal with the purchase and they really didn't know. The catch-22 regarding temporary tags came up, and the person there admitted that they didn't know how you would go about it, as it's impossible under the current laws to get a temporary tag if the car is not physically in the state or your possession. Duh. I called PA and they were equally clueless. It wasn't until we were at the title place in PA that the offer of a temporary tag even came up. Dan Right... the Pennsylvania bureaucracy is a special kind of confusing. For certain types of title operations you go to private companies; for certain types of drivers license things you can go to private companies, online or the state (in local centers) and for some things you can only go to the state capital by mail. And it's quite common for the people who are actively involved to tell you have to go to somewhere else for something they're responsible for. I knew that temporary tags existed for transit however I thought they used to cost 15 or 20 bucks. It seems someone in the state had a brilliant eureka moment where they thought they could raise revenue and whack out-of-state people by raising the fee by five or six times. And if I was Dan I would've said the heck with it too. Given how dramatically the fee was raised I wonder how many others say the heck with it and if today they collect as much as they used to under the old structure. Tony Wirtel Former '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
SOME STATES only allow dealers to issue temp tags LarryT On 4/8/2012 9:36 AM, Tony Wirtel wrote: te: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:48:32 -0400 From: Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID:067b5ef2-5876-4283-b612-16ddf251e...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That doesn't make a lot of sense. I work a block away from the county central offices, and there is a DMV branch there that's totally dead, even at lunchtime. I asked them how I should deal with the purchase and they really didn't know. The catch-22 regarding temporary tags came up, and the person there admitted that they didn't know how you would go about it, as it's impossible under the current laws to get a temporary tag if the car is not physically in the state or your possession. Duh. I called PA and they were equally clueless. It wasn't until we were at the title place in PA that the offer of a temporary tag even came up. Dan Right... the Pennsylvania bureaucracy is a special kind of confusing. For certain types of title operations you go to private companies; for certain types of drivers license things you can go to private companies, online or the state (in local centers) and for some things you can only go to the state capital by mail. And it's quite common for the people who are actively involved to tell you have to go to somewhere else for something they're responsible for. I knew that temporary tags existed for transit however I thought they used to cost 15 or 20 bucks. It seems someone in the state had a brilliant eureka moment where they thought they could raise revenue and whack out-of-state people by raising the fee by five or six times. And if I was Dan I would've said the heck with it too. Given how dramatically the fee was raised I wonder how many others say the heck with it and if today they collect as much as they used to under the old structure. Tony Wirtel Former '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
Refunds are not common but some states do/did issue them. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: No refunds here that I know of. If you sell the car before the registration expires, you simply lose the value of what you paid. Some states, like Indiana, had a system where the cost of your annual registration was based on the value of the vehicle, rather than a flat fee. If you had a new or fairly new car, you might have to pay thousands of dollars each year for your registration. Fees leveled off after 12 years. I am not sure if they still do it this way or not. I don't think they do. Dan Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: No, car rego is controlled by the states, however there is a memorandum of understanding to enable people to buy cars interstate. Within the federal law there is a section that states that a state cannot hamper free trade, this is a simplification of the law but it's purpose is to stop a state from imposing a tax/duty on products from another state. Further they way it works here is that the old rego is cancelled in the respective state, you can even get a refund for the unused portion and then you get new rego and have to pay tax on the purchase price, which is stated on the ownership transfer form. Hendrik who hates paying tax but it's the price of civilisation On 08/04/12 12:06, Dan Penoff wrote: Hendrik, The problem exists because of the separation of federal and state governments here when it comes to regulating commerce within their respective state. You have federal laws governing such things, where in our case they are controlled by the individual states. Each state has different laws regarding titling and registration of vehicles, and it's a very complex thing. Part of the problem originates from the fact that registrations and titles are a revenue stream for each state, so they guard their individual processes very closely. For example, in Florida and Wisconsin, two states I have been a legal resident of, if you purchase a vehicle out of state within six months of becoming a state resident, you have to pay sales tax on the vehicle equal to what would be charged by the respective state. For example, if I bought a car while living in Wisconsin and moved to Florida within six months of buying the car in Wisconsin, when I go to register the car in Florida as a legal resident I would have to pay the difference (if any) between the sales tax I paid on it in Wisconsin and the sales tax in Florida. If Wisconsin's sales tax is 4% and Florida's is 6%, I would have to pay Florida the 2% difference when I register the car there. This is an example of how convoluted our state regulations can be Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
I consider New England to be part of the the Northeast, especially when I'm talking about the whole region in general. I think those states just been around a lot longer than anyone else so they've had more time to make their bureaucracy ridiculous and hence the 'whacko's by the other poster. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:18:04 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia So are all of the northeastern states cut from the same cloth? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Over the past 20-40 years, the regs have taken a definite slant to the favor of stealers. Here, for instance, if you TRADE a car (at the stealer) they can take your plate off and put it on the new vehicle. As an individual, you have only a few days to buy a new car after you sell a car to transfer plates. It is illegal to move a plate to a car before the old one is sold. Makes no difference if is not being used or if it is junked. No dice. The old system was that when you sold a car, you turned the plates in and got a refund. It was completely independent of purchasing. When you purchased a vehicle, you bought a plate. clean and simple. Only stealers can issue a temp paper plate. In the past, johnny law let you drive a purchase (without plates) as long as you had a bill of sale within 10 days. Not sure if that still is true. SOME STATES only allow dealers to issue temp tags LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
t'other side. Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Actually, Florida is one of the saner states I have lived in as far as the DMV is concerned. The only one I can think of that was better was Wisconsin. Indiana was patronage job heaven (the DMV used to be run by the governor's political party) and California was a total nightmare to try and navigate if you had anything out of the ordinary. As for the VIN verification issue, the only time you have to do it is when the title is being transferred in from out of state. If it's Florida car or a new car, VIN verification is not required. Dan Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
True, but how many states can you transfer title in at 4:00 on a Saturday afternoon? I would gladly pay for such a convenience. Not an option in any state I have lived in to-date. Dan Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Those private companies in PA are most often members of the Commonwealth and make regular trips to Harrisburg to do their business. They take your paperwork with them and process it for you for a fee so you don't have to go to Hburg to do it yourself. Takes 3 days to do in PA what you can do in most states in minutes. Mike On Apr 8, 2012 9:36 AM, Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com wrote: te: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:48:32 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: 067b5ef2-5876-4283-b612-16ddf251e...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That doesn't make a lot of sense. I work a block away from the county central offices, and there is a DMV branch there that's totally dead, even at lunchtime. I asked them how I should deal with the purchase and they really didn't know. The catch-22 regarding temporary tags came up, and the person there admitted that they didn't know how you would go about it, as it's impossible under the current laws to get a temporary tag if the car is not physically in the state or your possession. Duh. I called PA and they were equally clueless. It wasn't until we were at the title place in PA that the offer of a temporary tag even came up. Dan Right... the Pennsylvania bureaucracy is a special kind of confusing. For certain types of title operations you go to private companies; for certain types of drivers license things you can go to private companies, online or the state (in local centers) and for some things you can only go to the state capital by mail. And it's quite common for the people who are actively involved to tell you have to go to somewhere else for something they're responsible for. I knew that temporary tags existed for transit however I thought they used to cost 15 or 20 bucks. It seems someone in the state had a brilliant eureka moment where they thought they could raise revenue and whack out-of-state people by raising the fee by five or six times. And if I was Dan I would've said the heck with it too. Given how dramatically the fee was raised I wonder how many others say the heck with it and if today they collect as much as they used to under the old structure. Tony Wirtel Former '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
I had to go to the state snooper's cop shop (70 miles away) for a VIN verification when I took a vehicle into WI to license. at the time WI was something like $25 a yr for license. The next year they changed to something like $90 a year flat rate. At the same time, I was paying $13 or $16 a year for MB 110 Diesels in a joining state, based on depreciation. A new car was hundreds there for license, but I took advantage of the depreciated rate by driving mostly old vehicles. Actually, Florida is one of the saner states I have lived in as far as the DMV is concerned. The only one I can think of that was better was Wisconsin. Indiana was patronage job heaven (the DMV used to be run by the governor's political party) and California was a total nightmare to try and navigate if you had anything out of the ordinary. As for the VIN verification issue, the only time you have to do it is when the title is being transferred in from out of state. If it's Florida car or a new car, VIN verification is not required. Dan Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Quite a few places, you cant do anything relating to the gummit after 4 pm ANY day. True, but how many states can you transfer title in at 4:00 on a Saturday afternoon? I would gladly pay for such a convenience. Not an option in any state I have lived in to-date. Dan Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Those private companies in PA are most often members of the Commonwealth and make regular trips to Harrisburg to do their business. They take your paperwork with them and process it for you for a fee so you don't have to go to Hburg to do it yourself. Takes 3 days to do in PA what you can do in most states in minutes. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not Aggravating!
Since everyone is aggravated talking about stupid gummit regs, I'd like to wish everyone a HAPPY EASTER! That is not aggravating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Only paper plates in FL are dealer issued and good for 30 days. The dealer is also responsible for collecting all fees at the time of sale, which are forwarded to the DMV for processing. This can be problematic, as the last car I bought the dealer did not forward the fees in a timely manner and my paper plate expired. I reported this to the DMV, they issued my new plates on the spot since I had a receipt for the fees, and the dealer got a nice $500 fine for holding back my fees. Ouch! Dan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past 20-40 years, the regs have taken a definite slant to the favor of stealers. Here, for instance, if you TRADE a car (at the stealer) they can take your plate off and put it on the new vehicle. As an individual, you have only a few days to buy a new car after you sell a car to transfer plates. It is illegal to move a plate to a car before the old one is sold. Makes no difference if is not being used or if it is junked. No dice. The old system was that when you sold a car, you turned the plates in and got a refund. It was completely independent of purchasing. When you purchased a vehicle, you bought a plate. clean and simple. Only stealers can issue a temp paper plate. In the past, johnny law let you drive a purchase (without plates) as long as you had a bill of sale within 10 days. Not sure if that still is true. SOME STATES only allow dealers to issue temp tags LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not Aggravating! Is too.....water pump leak.
It is when I just went out to go get our kids and the water pump on the 300d has developed a leak! We are supposed to be driving almost 500 miles today! Just came in to check part numbers.appears the 78 cd has the same water pump so I am off to change it out and hope for the best. That one has been sitting for a few months with very little, if any coolant left in it so I hope the seals are good. Anyway, Happy Easter All! Mike Who thinks cars have got it in for him. On Apr 8, 2012 10:39 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Since everyone is aggravated talking about stupid gummit regs, I'd like to wish everyone a HAPPY EASTER! That is not aggravating. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Only paper plates in FL are dealer issued and good for 30 days. The dealer is also responsible for collecting all fees at the time of sale, which are forwarded to the DMV for processing. This can be problematic, as the last car I bought the dealer did not forward the fees in a timely manner and my paper plate expired. I reported this to the DMV, they issued my new plates on the spot since I had a receipt for the fees, and the dealer got a nice $500 fine for holding back my fees. Ouch! Dan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past 20-40 years, the regs have taken a definite slant to the favor of stealers. Here, for instance, if you TRADE a car (at the stealer) they can take your plate off and put it on the new vehicle. As an individual, you have only a few days to buy a new car after you sell a car to transfer plates. It is illegal to move a plate to a car before the old one is sold. Makes no difference if is not being used or if it is junked. No dice. The old system was that when you sold a car, you turned the plates in and got a refund. It was completely independent of purchasing. When you purchased a vehicle, you bought a plate. clean and simple. Only stealers can issue a temp paper plate. In the past, johnny law let you drive a purchase (without plates) as long as you had a bill of sale within 10 days. Not sure if that still is true. SOME STATES only allow dealers to issue temp tags LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
In Florida any state LEO can do a VIN verification - I had one of our school district security guys do one once for me! We also have community resource officers in the county who will do it at their leisure, all you have to do is call their office and ask them to come by. That's how I got the 300E done, as I wasn't driving it and I needed the VIN verified to get it titled and tagged. Indiana used to do the excise tax thing, based on the value of the car - I don't think they do it anymore, as I don't recall getting gouged on our cars when I lived there a few yard ago. Back in the day when I was growing up there, I never owned anything new enough to get dinged with the fees - I was always at the bottom of the table, so I think I paid something like $25 for my tags. Dan On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I had to go to the state snooper's cop shop (70 miles away) for a VIN verification when I took a vehicle into WI to license. at the time WI was something like $25 a yr for license. The next year they changed to something like $90 a year flat rate. At the same time, I was paying $13 or $16 a year for MB 110 Diesels in a joining state, based on depreciation. A new car was hundreds there for license, but I took advantage of the depreciated rate by driving mostly old vehicles. Actually, Florida is one of the saner states I have lived in as far as the DMV is concerned. The only one I can think of that was better was Wisconsin. Indiana was patronage job heaven (the DMV used to be run by the governor's political party) and California was a total nightmare to try and navigate if you had anything out of the ordinary. As for the VIN verification issue, the only time you have to do it is when the title is being transferred in from out of state. If it's Florida car or a new car, VIN verification is not required. Dan Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Bit of a joke there by an independent minded New Englander. I was on a tractor forum one time when gay marriage was legalized here in MA. Of course tractor forums are very conservative and somebody posted What are they doing in MA? to which I responded Whatever the hell we please. Now get your dammed nose out of it! -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:18:34 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: cacncphkw4fp26k9sqcckgzegshhwcu8ng1c_jxdnjk31v3i...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I consider New England to be part of the the Northeast, especially when I'm talking about the whole region in general. I think those states just been around a lot longer than anyone else so they've had more time to make their bureaucracy ridiculous and hence the 'whacko's by the other poster. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:18:04 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia So are all of the northeastern states cut from the same cloth? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Indiana used to do the excise tax thing, based on the value of the car - I don't think they do it anymore They do, but it's less of a hit than in the past. It *is* deductible on your federal itemized deductions, as a small offset as well. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: Yeah, we have a coomerce clause in the constitution that is supposed to stop such BS. But our legislators cant read, and the courts believe they must look to foreign lawr to find direction (because they can't read either.) The really like sure rea law, because they could knock of f anyone they don't like under that. I don't know of any state that would not honor the temporary registration from another state. The problem here is buying a car in another state, and neither state is claiming to have a provision for temporary registration in such a case. What you might need to be asking about is a transport permit or some such, don't expect the BMV employees to suggest that as they are not the most creative folk. Also don't expect them to know the rules, if they are like the IRS there's a good chance they will answer questions incorrectly. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not Aggravating!
I have a story of the local DMV (I can't remember what it is called here, maybe part of the Dept of Public Safety) -- a few months ago I get a call one day from a woman at the local office, she tells me I have a wrong plate. It was kinda weird as I got it over 3 yr ago when I went to register all the cars when we moved here, and had plates in numerical sequence. Anyway, a middle number had been given to someone else, somehow, but I ended up with it, had been driving all that time with someone else's plate. The woman was very nice, told me her name, she would put the plate aside, just to ask for her when I came in, would not have to wait, just bring the other plate with me. So I go there a week or so later when I was up that way doing errands, she was on vacation or something, the woman at check-in tells me to go see someone else who knew all about it, she went and got the plate, printed off the new documents, and I was on my way in about 5 min. Having dealt with DMV in Massachusetts, where rudeness was a refined art, I thought I was being scammed when the woman called me. --R On 4/8/12 10:39 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Since everyone is aggravated talking about stupid gummit regs, I'd like to wish everyone a HAPPY EASTER! That is not aggravating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not Aggravating!
Floridda's DMV is refreshingly easy to work with, at least I have found this to be so. Case in point: When we moved back to Florida in 2011, I went to the DMV to register and title our cars. Florida has a rather nasty law that says when you move into the state you have to pay a processing fee of something like $225 or $250 per vehicle. I fully expected to have to pay this, as much as I hated to. When I was going through the process, the person who served me asked me if I was transferring my registration from another car (grin grin, wink wink). Somewhat befuddled, I said Yes and continued the process. When they gave me the total for payment, I was surprised that it was significantly lower than I expected. Turns out I had several old plates sitting in the system that had never been transferred (expired) and as a result, they were able to use those to say that I transferred them to my new vehicles. Amazingly, these sit in the system for some time, and can be referenced over and over, as I did the same thing when I brought the 300E into the state and avoided paying the processing fee. Dan On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have a story of the local DMV (I can't remember what it is called here, maybe part of the Dept of Public Safety) -- a few months ago I get a call one day from a woman at the local office, she tells me I have a wrong plate. It was kinda weird as I got it over 3 yr ago when I went to register all the cars when we moved here, and had plates in numerical sequence. Anyway, a middle number had been given to someone else, somehow, but I ended up with it, had been driving all that time with someone else's plate. The woman was very nice, told me her name, she would put the plate aside, just to ask for her when I came in, would not have to wait, just bring the other plate with me. So I go there a week or so later when I was up that way doing errands, she was on vacation or something, the woman at check-in tells me to go see someone else who knew all about it, she went and got the plate, printed off the new documents, and I was on my way in about 5 min. Having dealt with DMV in Massachusetts, where rudeness was a refined art, I thought I was being scammed when the woman called me. --R On 4/8/12 10:39 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Since everyone is aggravated talking about stupid gummit regs, I'd like to wish everyone a HAPPY EASTER! That is not aggravating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Water pump leak
Is a w123 300d water pump prone to leaking if the coolant reservoir is over full? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water pump leak
Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: Is a w123 300d water pump prone to leaking if the coolant reservoir is over full? I am having trouble seeing how the level in the reservoir would have much to do with it. The whole system is under pressure when hot; if the level is too high it just goes out the overflow tube on the reservoir. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Reasonable SD?
I kinda like the newer seats, and that color. Wonder how much mod is necessary to fit them or if they just drop in? http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2946054315.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2945616780.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reasonable SD?
There's that blue again. Underside of the blue trunk lid you sent me is now black; top to be black soon. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reasonable SD? I kinda like the newer seats, and that color. Wonder how much mod is necessary to fit them or if they just drop in? http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2946054315.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water pump leak
That is what I thought. Water pump is off parts car. Having trouble w/ over tight fan bolts! Mike On Apr 8, 2012 11:53 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: Is a w123 300d water pump prone to leaking if the coolant reservoir is over full? I am having trouble seeing how the level in the reservoir would have much to do with it. The whole system is under pressure when hot; if the level is too high it just goes out the overflow tube on the reservoir. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reasonable SD?
Excellent, send pics when you get it done. --R On 4/8/12 12:29 PM, WILTON wrote: There's that blue again. Underside of the blue trunk lid you sent me is now black; top to be black soon. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reasonable SD? I kinda like the newer seats, and that color. Wonder how much mod is necessary to fit them or if they just drop in? http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2946054315.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
Nice car, but red interior and blue exterior? Ugh. Dan On Apr 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2945616780.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
Looks like new seat leather but the headrest is old and faded? --R On 4/8/12 12:39 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Nice car, but red interior and blue exterior? Ugh. Dan On Apr 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2945616780.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
Is this a good deal? http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/2899562465.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
Dan. Only if you take out that gas-pig and put in a 604. Prejudiced? not me! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred At 12:52 PM 4/8/2012, you wrote: Is this a good deal? http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/2899562465.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reasonable SD?
Seats, interior, etc., look like mine. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reasonable SD? I kinda like the newer seats, and that color. Wonder how much mod is necessary to fit them or if they just drop in? http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2946054315.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
Dieselhead wrote: I found 50 Amp bridge rectifiers. I figured I could use 2 in parallel to be able to pass 50 to 70 amps. Nope. Not unless you have two transformers. Each diode will have a _slightly_ different turn-on voltage, so the one that's a touch lower will hog all the current and the other one will not do much of anything. You can build your own bridge out of four individual diodes. So wire the variac to the rectifiers, (AC side) then hang the BHC across the DC side of the rectifiers. Is that right? (DC to the iron cathode and anode.) If it were me, I would wire a high value resistor across the capacitor to dissipate the change so that after 10 or 15 minutes the hairy is gone from your BHC. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
You'd probably need to consider the panhandle West and the peninsula East. But the Appalachian mountains end in North Georgia and Northern Alabama. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: t'other side. Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Another way to think about it - if they make it hard to carry a gun, they're probably going make it hard to drive :-) On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: You'd probably need to consider the panhandle West and the peninsula East. But the Appalachian mountains end in North Georgia and Northern Alabama. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: t'other side. Florida is South of the mountains. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: California likes cars but hates polluters. So there are no safety inspections and no strict tag requirements. Reserve your judgement of whackos to the Northeast on down to Virginia (and don't forget that Florida is basically the Northeast without snow). Florida is east of the Appalachians last time I checked. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2945616780.html Not a bad price, too bad the white whale -er, wagon is still stuck in the garage. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:38:36 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry! It is 450V rated That's quite enough. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:47:27 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: If it were me, I would wire a high value resistor across the capacitor to dissipate the change so that after 10 or 15 minutes the hairy is gone from your BHC. This is a good idea. Each capacitor will hold about 48 Joules of energy when the variac outputs 120 VAC. You will want to check things with a voltmeter before you handle the connections after a run. If you run less than 120 VDC output, a 25 W lightbulb will make a dandy bleeder resistor. Just wire one or two across the capacitor bank. One will give you a time constant of 6 seconds; two will give a time constant of 3 seconds. Five time constants (15 - 30 s) will drop the voltage across the capacitor bank to close to zero. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water pump leak
Kroil and wait... Walt, who's snapped off a few fan bolts... On Apr 8, 2012 12:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: That is what I thought. Water pump is off parts car. Having trouble w/ over tight fan bolts! Mike On Apr 8, 2012 11:53 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: Is a w123 300d water pump prone to leaking if the coolant reservoir is over full? I am having trouble seeing how the level in the reservoir would have much to do with it. The whole system is under pressure when hot; if the level is too high it just goes out the overflow tube on the reservoir. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this sporty tractor!
I don't see the reasoning in that idea, the M104 with electronic fuel injection is a relatively frugal and reliable engine. Taking that out and putting in a OM6XX will cost a fair few dollars, decrease performance, devalue the car and gain a few liters/100ks. The only way I could see this work is if the original engine or gearbox is stuffed and it's gonna cost 's to fix and you have access to a good and low priced OM603 turbo. Hendrik who has a petrol pig 103 On 09/04/12 02:29, Frederick wrote: Dan. Only if you take out that gas-pig and put in a 604. Prejudiced? not me! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred At 12:52 PM 4/8/2012, you wrote: Is this a good deal? http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/2899562465.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this sporty tractor!
It's not that it's practical or reasonable, some of us just need to hear that clatta clatta when we start an engine. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: I don't see the reasoning in that idea, the M104 with electronic fuel injection is a relatively frugal and reliable engine. Taking that out and putting in a OM6XX will cost a fair few dollars, decrease performance, devalue the car and gain a few liters/100ks. The only way I could see this work is if the original engine or gearbox is stuffed and it's gonna cost 's to fix and you have access to a good and low priced OM603 turbo. Hendrik who has a petrol pig 103 On 09/04/12 02:29, Frederick wrote: Dan. Only if you take out that gas-pig and put in a 604. Prejudiced? not me! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred At 12:52 PM 4/8/2012, you wrote: Is this a good deal? http://tampa.craigslist.org/**hil/ctd/2899562465.htmlhttp://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/2899562465.html Dan __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS rip off
Sounds like a rip off to me, unless the remainder of the rego is transferable to the new owner. How do they get away with it? Wonder how much money they make out of duplicate registrations on vehicles? Also the system of rego based on value is stupid, insofar that the state wants people to drive relatively modern cars but imposes an extra tax on anyone who buys a newer car. Our system does have this in a sense where the tax payable when you register a car is based on value but annual renewal fees are based on the type of vehicle, so the annual cost of a new Merc is the same as one that is 20 years old. Hendrik who hates paying for rego On 08/04/12 23:30, Brian Toscano wrote: Refunds are not common but some states do/did issue them. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com wrote: No refunds here that I know of. If you sell the car before the registration expires, you simply lose the value of what you paid. Some states, like Indiana, had a system where the cost of your annual registration was based on the value of the vehicle, rather than a flat fee. If you had a new or fairly new car, you might have to pay thousands of dollars each year for your registration. Fees leveled off after 12 years. I am not sure if they still do it this way or not. I don't think they do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this sporty tractor!
There are several ways to achieve this on an otto motor, disconnecting a couple of spark plugs/injectors, loosening a few rockers or even make a recording of Diesel engine noises for the mp player. I reckon the disconnecting of the injectors is the way to go, because it will also give you that Diesel performance that some of you crave, plus it may improve the fuel economy. However the fun activity of trying to fill a Diesel car with a high flow Diesel pump designed for truck fuel tanks will not be possible. Hendrik who has heard enough klattering to last a lifetime On 09/04/12 10:19, OK Don wrote: It's not that it's practical or reasonable, some of us just need to hear that clatta clatta when we start an engine. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Hendrik Fayheni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: I don't see the reasoning in that idea, the M104 with electronic fuel injection is a relatively frugal and reliable engine. Taking that out and putting in a OM6XX will cost a fair few dollars, decrease performance, devalue the car and gain a few liters/100ks. The only way I could see this work is if the original engine or gearbox is stuffed and it's gonna cost 's to fix and you have access to a good and low priced OM603 turbo. Hendrik who has a petrol pig 103 On 09/04/12 02:29, Frederick wrote: Dan. Only if you take out that gas-pig and put in a 604. Prejudiced? not me! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this sporty tractor!
I weren't serious, Geez. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 4/8/2012 8:46 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: I don't see the reasoning in that idea, the M104 with electronic fuel injection is a relatively frugal and reliable engine. Taking that out and putting in a OM6XX will cost a fair few dollars, decrease performance, devalue the car and gain a few liters/100ks. The only way I could see this work is if the original engine or gearbox is stuffed and it's gonna cost 's to fix and you have access to a good and low priced OM603 turbo. Hendrik who has a petrol pig 103 On 09/04/12 02:29, Frederick wrote: Dan. Only if you take out that gas-pig and put in a 604. Prejudiced? not me! Fred Moir At 12:52 PM 4/8/2012, you wrote: Is this a good deal? http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/2899562465.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
That is just so weird, sure over here getting a temporary registration for an un-registered car is a bit more complicated than buying a registered car but quite do able with a visit to the car rego place. Why would a state want to miss out on a few dollars (temp rego is relatively expensive) and the end result being that a vehicle shipper gets some business. Hendrik who lives in a civilised country with mostly sensible rules On 09/04/12 01:04, Allan Streib wrote: Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com writes: Yeah, we have a coomerce clause in the constitution that is supposed to stop such BS. But our legislators cant read, and the courts believe they must look to foreign lawr to find direction (because they can't read either.) The really like sure rea law, because they could knock of f anyone they don't like under that. I don't know of any state that would not honor the temporary registration from another state. The problem here is buying a car in another state, and neither state is claiming to have a provision for temporary registration in such a case. What you might need to be asking about is a transport permit or some such, don't expect the BMV employees to suggest that as they are not the most creative folk. Also don't expect them to know the rules, if they are like the IRS there's a good chance they will answer questions incorrectly. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
Here in Arizona, you can buy the temp registration online for $2.00, good for 3 days. If you want/need longer there is a 45 day temp registration for about $25.00 that you have to go to DMV and ask for. They are usually used for out of state cars that need a little delay in getting title sorted out or for new cars that need time to get all the dealer docs processed before issue of license. I'm stunned at how the East is shot full of overkill and paperwork. Don't the folks back east know how to vote this stuff out? On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: That is just so weird, sure over here getting a temporary registration for an un-registered car is a bit more complicated than buying a registered car but quite do able with a visit to the car rego place. Why would a state want to miss out on a few dollars (temp rego is relatively expensive) and the end result being that a vehicle shipper gets some business. Hendrik who lives in a civilised country with mostly sensible rules On 09/04/12 01:04, Allan Streib wrote: Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com** writes: Yeah, we have a coomerce clause in the constitution that is supposed to stop such BS. But our legislators cant read, and the courts believe they must look to foreign lawr to find direction (because they can't read either.) The really like sure rea law, because they could knock of f anyone they don't like under that. I don't know of any state that would not honor the temporary registration from another state. The problem here is buying a car in another state, and neither state is claiming to have a provision for temporary registration in such a case. What you might need to be asking about is a transport permit or some such, don't expect the BMV employees to suggest that as they are not the most creative folk. Also don't expect them to know the rules, if they are like the IRS there's a good chance they will answer questions incorrectly. Allan __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this sporty tractor!
Nope - not the same. BTDT - a barely running M117 does NOT sounds like the well oiled clockwork machinery that an OM 603 has. And then there's the sweet exhaust smell vs. the astringent stink of an M engine (I have owned and driven both types). However, this is a religious topic, not a rational one, so logic doesn't apply. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: There are several ways to achieve this on an otto motor, disconnecting a couple of spark plugs/injectors, loosening a few rockers or even make a recording of Diesel engine noises for the mp player. I reckon the disconnecting of the injectors is the way to go, because it will also give you that Diesel performance that some of you crave, plus it may improve the fuel economy. However the fun activity of trying to fill a Diesel car with a high flow Diesel pump designed for truck fuel tanks will not be possible. Hendrik who has heard enough klattering to last a lifetime On 09/04/12 10:19, OK Don wrote: It's not that it's practical or reasonable, some of us just need to hear that clatta clatta when we start an engine. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Hendrik Fayheni...@ozemail.com.au** wrote: I don't see the reasoning in that idea, the M104 with electronic fuel injection is a relatively frugal and reliable engine. Taking that out and putting in a OM6XX will cost a fair few dollars, decrease performance, devalue the car and gain a few liters/100ks. The only way I could see this work is if the original engine or gearbox is stuffed and it's gonna cost 's to fix and you have access to a good and low priced OM603 turbo. Hendrik who has a petrol pig 103 On 09/04/12 02:29, Frederick wrote: Dan. Only if you take out that gas-pig and put in a 604. Prejudiced? not me! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
Dieselhead wrote: I found 50 Amp bridge rectifiers. I figured I could use 2 in parallel to be able to pass 50 to 70 amps. Nope. Not unless you have two transformers. Each diode will have a _slightly_ different turn-on voltage, so the one that's a touch lower will hog all the current and the other one will not do much of anything. You can build your own bridge out of four individual diodes. So wire the variac to the rectifiers, (AC side) then hang the BHC across the DC side of the rectifiers. Is that right? (DC to the iron cathode and anode.) If it were me, I would wire a high value resistor across the capacitor to dissipate the change so that after 10 or 15 minutes the hairy is gone from your BHC. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
Good idea, but it might take some of the fun out of the demo! If it were me, I would wire a high value resistor across the capacitor to dissipate the change so that after 10 or 15 minutes the hairy is gone from your BHC. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
If you need it, I would say it is worth it. Standard mileage for 17 year old car. Will be needing work, but, then you know that. My 95 e300D is valued at $5k with same miles. clay On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Is this a good deal? http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/2899562465.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
Bingo! Brian gets a prize! Another way to think about it - if they make it hard to carry a gun, they're probably going make it hard to drive :-) Or if it is a blue state they most likely make it hard to drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS rip off
Also the system of rego based on value is stupid, insofar that the state wants people to drive relatively modern cars but imposes an extra tax on anyone who buys a newer car. Our system does have this in a sense where the tax payable when you register a car is based on value but annual renewal fees are based on the type of vehicle, so the annual cost of a new Merc is the same as one that is 20 years old. Hendrik who hates paying for rego WELL, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS, GUMMIT AND GUMMIT EMPLOYEES. Why does the word stupid seem to fit in well with this group? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to impound cars over it. Mike On Apr 8, 2012 11:34 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: Yeah, we have a coomerce clause in the constitution that is supposed to stop such BS. But our legislators cant read, and the courts believe they must look to foreign lawr to find direction (because they can't read either.) The really like sure rea law, because they could knock of f anyone they don't like under that. I don't know of any state that would not honor the temporary registration from another state. The problem here is buying a car in another state, and neither state is claiming to have a provision for temporary registration in such a case. What you might need to be asking about is a transport permit or some such, don't expect the BMV employees to suggest that as they are not the most creative folk. Also don't expect them to know the rules, if they are like the IRS there's a good chance they will answer questions incorrectly. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
What would the specs of the diodes need to be to pass up to 25 amps@ up to 120 V? Each rated for 25 Amp or more? It just seemed easier to buy a rectifier than to build one. But to get 25 amp, I may need to build. Thanks Philip and Craig for helping me out with this demo unit. You can build your own bridge out of four individual diodes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Max -- mama needs this!
I think the interior is actually burgundy. The burgundy rarely looks good in pictures, but is nice when you can see and touch it. It is an unusual combination, but I kinda like it. Not something I would order, but not bad like the photos look. I bet burgundy 107 visors don't turn up on fleabay often! Nice car, but red interior and blue exterior? Ugh. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL
Would these be the same thing as those used in the w116? Sure look the same. I know the 107 is a blend of 114 and 116 parts, but are the rubber bits completely different? Bound to be the same thing, just more special part number for when you do show car instead of road car. This matters not, as I just want it on the road, not looking for ribbons or medals. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-to-1981-Rear-Subframe-Mount-Bushing-Kit-Mercedes-220-230-240-250-280-450-/370592510563?hash=item564908f263item=370592510563pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessoriesvxp=mtr#ht_668wt_1165 clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to impound cars over it. OK this seems like too much to believe so I did 2 minutes of research (so I may be wrong, but what I found at least sounds believable): Massachusetts does not recognize out of state temporary plates issued to a Massachusetts resident as legal. Massachusetts does not issue temporary plates for its own residents but it does recognize legally issued temporary plates on out of state vehicles. So if I am a MA resident the state will not recognize another state's temporary plate on a car I bought. However if I as an Indiana resident I buy a car here and have a proper temporary registration then I can drive it in/through MA legally. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL
Q can tell you in the mornin' Would these be the same thing as those used in the w116? Sure look the same. I know the 107 is a blend of 114 and 116 parts, but are the rubber bits completely different? Bound to be the same thing, just more special part number for when you do show car instead of road car. This matters not, as I just want it on the road, not looking for ribbons or medals. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-to-1981-Rear-Subframe-Mount-Bushing-Kit-Mercedes-220-230-240-250-280-450-/370592510563?hash=item564908f263item=370592510563pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessoriesvxp=mtr#ht_668wt_1165 clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
Dieselhead wrote: What would the specs of the diodes need to be to pass up to 25 amps@ up to 120 V? Each rated for 25 Amp or more? Each diode carries the full current, but only half the time. So if it is going to have 25 A continuous through it, I would look for a 30-35 A diode rated for at least 200 V (120 V-RMS is 170 V peak). It just seemed easier to buy a rectifier than to build one. But to get 25 amp, I may need to build. It's easy to build. Four diodes is all it takes. Here is a link to a diagram for a bridge rectifier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diode_bridge_smoothing.svg That diagram is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode_bridge The advantage to a pre-built bridge is it's easier to wire. And occasionally it's cheaper. As Craig said, there will be a fair amount of heat from these diodes, so be sure to mount them in a way to dissipate that heat. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS
So what are they trying to do here? Encourage MA residents to buy vehicles within MA? On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to impound cars over it. OK this seems like too much to believe so I did 2 minutes of research (so I may be wrong, but what I found at least sounds believable): Massachusetts does not recognize out of state temporary plates issued to a Massachusetts resident as legal. Massachusetts does not issue temporary plates for its own residents but it does recognize legally issued temporary plates on out of state vehicles. So if I am a MA resident the state will not recognize another state's temporary plate on a car I bought. However if I as an Indiana resident I buy a car here and have a proper temporary registration then I can drive it in/through MA legally. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS rip off
lobbyists who influence the politicians too. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Also the system of rego based on value is stupid, insofar that the state wants people to drive relatively modern cars but imposes an extra tax on anyone who buys a newer car. Our system does have this in a sense where the tax payable when you register a car is based on value but annual renewal fees are based on the type of vehicle, so the annual cost of a new Merc is the same as one that is 20 years old. Hendrik who hates paying for rego WELL, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS, GUMMIT AND GUMMIT EMPLOYEES. Why does the word stupid seem to fit in well with this group? __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:36:10 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What would the specs of the diodes need to be to pass up to 25 amps@ up to 120 V? Each rated for 25 Amp or more? It just seemed easier to buy a rectifier than to build one. But to get 25 amp, I may need to build. Get a pre-packaged bridge rectifier. They usually are square, have four terminals, and have a metal pad with a hole through it for bolting to a heat sink. You should get a bridge with at least a 400 V rating (the capacitor will store 120*sqrt(2) DC and the reversed diode will see the line go opposite polarity, for a total of 2*120*sqrt(2) ). Buy, don't build. If you'd like I can search for a source of the right kind of thing tomorrow. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
