Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed!
Problem is the access, best bet is to get am imperial allen key the next size up and a pair of vice grips and have a go. I have removed rounded/stuffed allen bolts with vice grips, proper US vice grips. Ya gotta make sure that there is no crap in the hole. These bolts need to be torqued to the proper spec, most people like me will overtorque em. Gonna cut the text I am replying to to save Roger et al the bother but it was Max Dillion that offered a suggestion and Craig asked the question ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
And the non-existent organic farm where they raise all of their own produce. Seems the farm was shut down a year or so ago, but they never bothered to tell their customers or change the story they give everyone. They got busted big time in the local paper and have since changed their story. Not so sure I would trust them with my food...a lot about Bern's is the aura, which enables them to charge very high prices. If I wanted to spend $100/person for dinner I would go to Ruth's Chris'. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Dan, you are a saint for offering, might be a year or three before you get the call. I'm going to be down Florida way soon, Orlando and Tampa, are you (or anyone else on the list) in either area? Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
No natural caves in this part of the world, unless they are under water. Bern's wine cellar is just that-a wine cellar that they built some years ago. They also built two so-called caves to house a cheese collection, which they make a point of stating that they are not man-made caves to their credit. About 90% of their wine collection isn't even on site; it's stored off site in a climate controlled warehouse. How do I know this? I work with a guy who was a sommelier there in the 80s. He got the wife and I a tour of the off site warehouse back in 2004. Impressive if you are into wine. I'm not, so it was just a big building with a lot of bottles in it to me. Now the cheese collection I could get into... Dan who loves to cut the cheese Man On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Dan, you are a saint for offering, might be a year or three before you get the call. I'm going to be down Florida way soon, Orlando and Tampa, are you (or anyone else on the list) in either area? Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Clarification: the caves are not man-made and I believe they state this on their web site. Gotta love the autocorrect... Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: No natural caves in this part of the world, unless they are under water. Bern's wine cellar is just that-a wine cellar that they built some years ago. They also built two so-called caves to house a cheese collection, which they make a point of stating that they are not man-made caves to their credit. About 90% of their wine collection isn't even on site; it's stored off site in a climate controlled warehouse. How do I know this? I work with a guy who was a sommelier there in the 80s. He got the wife and I a tour of the off site warehouse back in 2004. Impressive if you are into wine. I'm not, so it was just a big building with a lot of bottles in it to me. Now the cheese collection I could get into... Dan who loves to cut the cheese Man On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Dan, you are a saint for offering, might be a year or three before you get the call. I'm going to be down Florida way soon, Orlando and Tampa, are you (or anyone else on the list) in either area? Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And it has shot up to $28k now. Someone is getting taken for a very expensive ride. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Looks like a cut up coupe, plenty of them out there, notice NO vin, 15k on the clock, yeah right, this is going to end in tears. Hendrik who looked a chop job a while back On 20/06/12 10:42, clay monroe wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cbnko5f Not mine no interest That looks sweet and with 12 hours to do it is only $3600. Less than $4k drop top. Wish I had space for her clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
If we had a VIN we would know. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab Looks like a coupe hacked into a cabriolet, perhaps? Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: South Florida bondomobile. I am willing to bet. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
I would agree with you, but the market this car is coming from is well known for poseur cars. I didn't even think about the lack of a VIN in the ad - that would be telling in the event that it is a conversion. The quality of classic or vintage cars in South Florida should always be questioned and thoroughly vetted in the event of a potential purchase. I spent several years in Pompano and Dade County for work, and during that time looked at probably 100 cars easily for potential buyers. I would have to say that less than five percent were solid cars that were honestly represented. The rest were sloppy restorations (and I use that term loosely) that presented well in photos but failed even the ten foot test when seen in person. I was regularly looking at 190s for a guy in Wisconsin. I learned more than you would ever want to know about the 190s, especially their weak areas and how rust prone the bodies and pans were. Nearly every one of these I saw in this area had shoddy repair work in the problem areas, often covered up or concealed as much as the seller could. There is strong demand from the offshore buyers who come into Miami like you or I would go into Sams Club or Costco. They come to South Florida with loads of cash, spend a week on a shopping spree, arrange for a couple of containers to be shipped home and they are on their way. They are rarely discerning buyers and often purchase things like this sight unseen, only looking at photos and nothing more. Payment is either in cash or an irrevocable LC, meaning the seller has money in the bank before the car ever leaves the lot. Off it goes to the port to be loaded in a container, never to be seen again. You can drive down Collins Avenue and other main thoroughfares in the area and there are literally high line independent car dealers on both sides of the street for blocks. They all have very highly desirable cars on the lot in prominent places. If you look at these up close the quality is shocking. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And it has shot up to $28k now. Someone is getting taken for a very expensive ride. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Looks like a cut up coupe, plenty of them out there, notice NO vin, 15k on the clock, yeah right, this is going to end in tears. Hendrik who looked a chop job a while back On 20/06/12 10:42, clay monroe wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cbnko5f Not mine no interest That looks sweet and with 12 hours to do it is only $3600. Less than $4k drop top. Wish I had space for her clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Sommelier? A professional wine sniffer/taster/buyer? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? No natural caves in this part of the world, unless they are under water. Bern's wine cellar is just that-a wine cellar that they built some years ago. They also built two so-called caves to house a cheese collection, which they make a point of stating that they are not man-made caves to their credit. About 90% of their wine collection isn't even on site; it's stored off site in a climate controlled warehouse. How do I know this? I work with a guy who was a sommelier there in the 80s. He got the wife and I a tour of the off site warehouse back in 2004. Impressive if you are into wine. I'm not, so it was just a big building with a lot of bottles in it to me. Now the cheese collection I could get into... Dan who loves to cut the cheese Man On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Dan, you are a saint for offering, might be a year or three before you get the call. I'm going to be down Florida way soon, Orlando and Tampa, are you (or anyone else on the list) in either area? Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
That and the 3 cars that I've seen that went into FL with high mileage showing on the odo and came back out of FL few months later with low mileage are why I will try very hard NOT to buy a car that has been titled in FL. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab I would agree with you, but the market this car is coming from is well known for poseur cars. I didn't even think about the lack of a VIN in the ad - that would be telling in the event that it is a conversion. The quality of classic or vintage cars in South Florida should always be questioned and thoroughly vetted in the event of a potential purchase. I spent several years in Pompano and Dade County for work, and during that time looked at probably 100 cars easily for potential buyers. I would have to say that less than five percent were solid cars that were honestly represented. The rest were sloppy restorations (and I use that term loosely) that presented well in photos but failed even the ten foot test when seen in person. I was regularly looking at 190s for a guy in Wisconsin. I learned more than you would ever want to know about the 190s, especially their weak areas and how rust prone the bodies and pans were. Nearly every one of these I saw in this area had shoddy repair work in the problem areas, often covered up or concealed as much as the seller could. There is strong demand from the offshore buyers who come into Miami like you or I would go into Sams Club or Costco. They come to South Florida with loads of cash, spend a week on a shopping spree, arrange for a couple of containers to be shipped home and they are on their way. They are rarely discerning buyers and often purchase things like this sight unseen, only looking at photos and nothing more. Payment is either in cash or an irrevocable LC, meaning the seller has money in the bank before the car ever leaves the lot. Off it goes to the port to be loaded in a container, never to be seen again. You can drive down Collins Avenue and other main thoroughfares in the area and there are literally high line independent car dealers on both sides of the street for blocks. They all have very highly desirable cars on the lot in prominent places. If you look at these up close the quality is shocking. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And it has shot up to $28k now. Someone is getting taken for a very expensive ride. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Looks like a cut up coupe, plenty of them out there, notice NO vin, 15k on the clock, yeah right, this is going to end in tears. Hendrik who looked a chop job a while back On 20/06/12 10:42, clay monroe wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cbnko5f Not mine no interest That looks sweet and with 12 hours to do it is only $3600. Less than $4k drop top. Wish I had space for her clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Yup. Bern's has a couple of them on staff, I believe. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:41 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Sommelier? A professional wine sniffer/taster/buyer? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? No natural caves in this part of the world, unless they are under water. Bern's wine cellar is just that-a wine cellar that they built some years ago. They also built two so-called caves to house a cheese collection, which they make a point of stating that they are not man-made caves to their credit. About 90% of their wine collection isn't even on site; it's stored off site in a climate controlled warehouse. How do I know this? I work with a guy who was a sommelier there in the 80s. He got the wife and I a tour of the off site warehouse back in 2004. Impressive if you are into wine. I'm not, so it was just a big building with a lot of bottles in it to me. Now the cheese collection I could get into... Dan who loves to cut the cheese Man On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Dan, you are a saint for offering, might be a year or three before you get the call. I'm going to be down Florida way soon, Orlando and Tampa, are you (or anyone else on the list) in either area? Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush - south Florida is really the hotbed of questionable cars. I am not aware of Tampa or other parts of Florida being that way. For that matter, you can find some very nice legit cars in the Naples area due to the large numbers of old money folks living in that area. You just have to stay out of southeast Florida, IMHO. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:54 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: That and the 3 cars that I've seen that went into FL with high mileage showing on the odo and came back out of FL few months later with low mileage are why I will try very hard NOT to buy a car that has been titled in FL. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab I would agree with you, but the market this car is coming from is well known for poseur cars. I didn't even think about the lack of a VIN in the ad - that would be telling in the event that it is a conversion. The quality of classic or vintage cars in South Florida should always be questioned and thoroughly vetted in the event of a potential purchase. I spent several years in Pompano and Dade County for work, and during that time looked at probably 100 cars easily for potential buyers. I would have to say that less than five percent were solid cars that were honestly represented. The rest were sloppy restorations (and I use that term loosely) that presented well in photos but failed even the ten foot test when seen in person. I was regularly looking at 190s for a guy in Wisconsin. I learned more than you would ever want to know about the 190s, especially their weak areas and how rust prone the bodies and pans were. Nearly every one of these I saw in this area had shoddy repair work in the problem areas, often covered up or concealed as much as the seller could. There is strong demand from the offshore buyers who come into Miami like you or I would go into Sams Club or Costco. They come to South Florida with loads of cash, spend a week on a shopping spree, arrange for a couple of containers to be shipped home and they are on their way. They are rarely discerning buyers and often purchase things like this sight unseen, only looking at photos and nothing more. Payment is either in cash or an irrevocable LC, meaning the seller has money in the bank before the car ever leaves the lot. Off it goes to the port to be loaded in a container, never to be seen again. You can drive down Collins Avenue and other main thoroughfares in the area and there are literally high line independent car dealers on both sides of the street for blocks. They all have very highly desirable cars on the lot in prominent places. If you look at these up close the quality is shocking. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And it has shot up to $28k now. Someone is getting taken for a very expensive ride. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Looks like a cut up coupe, plenty of them out there, notice NO vin, 15k on the clock, yeah right, this is going to end in tears. Hendrik who looked a chop job a while back On 20/06/12 10:42, clay monroe wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cbnko5f Not mine no interest That looks sweet and with 12 hours to do it is only $3600. Less than $4k drop top. Wish I had space for her clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] 100mph 1928 Mercedes unearthed after 60 years
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161571/100mph-1928-Mercedes-60-years-rusting-away-garage-worth-1-5m.html#ixzz1yLPdBmEY --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
'Don't doubt at all that are some very fine, legitimate creme puffs in FL that sell to us foreigners, but, in my search, I couldn't find 'em; 'had 3 turds advertised as creme puffs instead. A 4th one was near York, SC; all MB 124's. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush - south Florida is really the hotbed of questionable cars. I am not aware of Tampa or other parts of Florida being that way. For that matter, you can find some very nice legit cars in the Naples area due to the large numbers of old money folks living in that area. You just have to stay out of southeast Florida, IMHO. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:54 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: That and the 3 cars that I've seen that went into FL with high mileage showing on the odo and came back out of FL few months later with low mileage are why I will try very hard NOT to buy a car that has been titled in FL. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab I would agree with you, but the market this car is coming from is well known for poseur cars. I didn't even think about the lack of a VIN in the ad - that would be telling in the event that it is a conversion. The quality of classic or vintage cars in South Florida should always be questioned and thoroughly vetted in the event of a potential purchase. I spent several years in Pompano and Dade County for work, and during that time looked at probably 100 cars easily for potential buyers. I would have to say that less than five percent were solid cars that were honestly represented. The rest were sloppy restorations (and I use that term loosely) that presented well in photos but failed even the ten foot test when seen in person. I was regularly looking at 190s for a guy in Wisconsin. I learned more than you would ever want to know about the 190s, especially their weak areas and how rust prone the bodies and pans were. Nearly every one of these I saw in this area had shoddy repair work in the problem areas, often covered up or concealed as much as the seller could. There is strong demand from the offshore buyers who come into Miami like you or I would go into Sams Club or Costco. They come to South Florida with loads of cash, spend a week on a shopping spree, arrange for a couple of containers to be shipped home and they are on their way. They are rarely discerning buyers and often purchase things like this sight unseen, only looking at photos and nothing more. Payment is either in cash or an irrevocable LC, meaning the seller has money in the bank before the car ever leaves the lot. Off it goes to the port to be loaded in a container, never to be seen again. You can drive down Collins Avenue and other main thoroughfares in the area and there are literally high line independent car dealers on both sides of the street for blocks. They all have very highly desirable cars on the lot in prominent places. If you look at these up close the quality is shocking. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And it has shot up to $28k now. Someone is getting taken for a very expensive ride. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Looks like a cut up coupe, plenty of them out there, notice NO vin, 15k on the clock, yeah right, this is going to end in tears. Hendrik who looked a chop job a while back On 20/06/12 10:42, clay monroe wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cbnko5f Not mine no interest That looks sweet and with 12 hours to do it is only $3600. Less than $4k drop top. Wish I had space for her clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? Yup. Bern's has a couple of them on staff, I believe. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:41 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Sommelier? A professional wine sniffer/taster/buyer? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? No natural caves in this part of the world, unless they are under water. Bern's wine cellar is just that-a wine cellar that they built some years ago. They also built two so-called caves to house a cheese collection, which they make a point of stating that they are not man-made caves to their credit. About 90% of their wine collection isn't even on site; it's stored off site in a climate controlled warehouse. How do I know this? I work with a guy who was a sommelier there in the 80s. He got the wife and I a tour of the off site warehouse back in 2004. Impressive if you are into wine. I'm not, so it was just a big building with a lot of bottles in it to me. Now the cheese collection I could get into... Dan who loves to cut the cheese Man On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Dan, you are a saint for offering, might be a year or three before you get the call. I'm going to be down Florida way soon, Orlando and Tampa, are you (or anyone else on the list) in either area? Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed!
I have successfully used the next larger sized Allen key, regardless of measurement system (inches, MM, etc.), ground hollows into the sides, leaving the six corners rather sharp, then pounded it into the rounded hole. I have used a standard Alln wrench, then cut off 5/8 or so, and turned it with the appropriate sized socket. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
So, can't y'all just hear Wilton tawkin French with a southern accent?? Randy On 20/06/2012 1:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Thanks, SWMBO and I both prefer to sit at a table, but we also enjoy a drop or two of vino... Maybe Dan will treat us? Poor folks from out of town and such. ;) Max Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? now Accetns
A related but funny thing I saw on the news in Texas once -- they were interviewing this Chinese student from Texas AM (I think) who had come to the school not knowing much English. He had won some sort of award. The kid had a really thick Texas accent overlaying his Chinese accent, it was really funny (well to me anyway, the juxtaposition I guess). I guess he learned Texasenglish from all his buds. --R On 6/20/12 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, can't y'all just hear Wilton tawkin French with a southern accent?? Randy On 20/06/2012 1:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Never been in the place and don't plan to go there, sorry. Call me cheap, but paying that kind of money for a meal is really hard for me to justify. Especially when it's a steak. I'm always the designated driver, so I never get to drink, either. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, SWMBO and I both prefer to sit at a table, but we also enjoy a drop or two of vino... Maybe Dan will treat us? Poor folks from out of town and such. ;) Max Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
But I don't tawk with much of a southern accent, do I, Max? Certainly not as much as Randy may think, anyway, and having lived near The Soo for several years, 'can even tawk with a Canadian (well, Ontario, anyway) accent when necessary, eh? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? So, can't y'all just hear Wilton tawkin French with a southern accent?? Randy On 20/06/2012 1:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed!
Now you're depriving us of clever signature tag lines ! Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Problem is the access, best bet is to get am imperial allen key the next size up and a pair of vice grips and have a go. I have removed rounded/stuffed allen bolts with vice grips, proper US vice grips. Ya gotta make sure that there is no crap in the hole. These bolts need to be torqued to the proper spec, most people like me will overtorque em. Gonna cut the text I am replying to to save Roger et al the bother but it was Max Dillion that offered a suggestion and Craig asked the question ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rather do it myself!
My friends often ask me, Wilt, why do you have to try to do everything yourself? Why can't you let somebody else help you sometime? Well, 'just had the reason reconfirmed. 'Went to get 20 lb. propane cylinder refilled. As I stood at back of the car with trunk open, and clerk coming toward me with the filled cylinder, I thought, I should ask him to just put the cylinder down and I'll put it in the trunk. I hesitated, though, and as he arrived at the car, he swung the cylinder way up and over into the trunk and let it land on edge of the steel ring mounted on underside of it. I heard the board that's directly beneath the trunk carpet and on top of the spare tire break with a resounding CRACK! Clerk didn't seem to notice, probably has no idea what he did and doesn't give a damned. Shonuff, I can clearly see the impression/dent in the trunk floor and feel the weakness in the broken board. If I had insisted on loading it myself, the floor in my 124 would still be completely intact. Several times before, when I've gotten the cyl refilled, I have locked the car and arrived back at it after the clerk had filled the cylinder and left it sitting at back of car; I'll make damned sure to do that henceforth. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rather do it myself!
WILTON wrote: My friends often ask me, Wilt, why do you have to try to do everything yourself? Why can't you let somebody else help you sometime? Because if you care about how a job is done, you have to do it yourself. I have found that even if I find someone particular and careful (Rare!) they are never particular and careful about the same things I am. So to have the task done to my satisfaction seems to always require me to do it. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Does this mean you won't but me a steak there? -Max Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And the non-existent organic farm where they raise all of their own produce. Seems the farm was shut down a year or so ago, but they never bothered to tell their customers or change the story they give everyone. They got busted big time in the local paper and have since changed their story. Not so sure I would trust them with my food...a lot about Bern's is the aura, which enables them to charge very high prices. If I wanted to spend $100/person for dinner I would go to Ruth's Chris'. Dan -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
No, I won't but you a steak there. I'll buy you dinner at the Columbia in Ybor City. Some of the finest Latin cuisine in town. Yum, yum. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Does this mean you won't but me a steak there? -Max Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And the non-existent organic farm where they raise all of their own produce. Seems the farm was shut down a year or so ago, but they never bothered to tell their customers or change the story they give everyone. They got busted big time in the local paper and have since changed their story. Not so sure I would trust them with my food...a lot about Bern's is the aura, which enables them to charge very high prices. If I wanted to spend $100/person for dinner I would go to Ruth's Chris'. Dan -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
The Burmese would call such an extravagance decorating your chee [sh**] On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Never been in the place and don't plan to go there, sorry. Call me cheap, but paying that kind of money for a meal is really hard for me to justify. Especially when it's a steak. I'm always the designated driver, so I never get to drink, either. Dan On Jun 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, SWMBO and I both prefer to sit at a table, but we also enjoy a drop or two of vino... Maybe Dan will treat us? Poor folks from out of town and such. ;) Max Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They have multiples, one right under the restaurant in a natural cave. It is an amazing place. The kitchen was cleaner than a surgical suite, I swear the floor looked absolutely spotlessly shiny clean, you could have your meal right there on the floor. --R On 6/19/12 11:07 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that the place with the world's largest wine cellar? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Bern's Steak House --R On 6/19/12 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I am in Tampa. If you're going to be in the area, let me know. Dan -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? now Accetns
There was such a guy I used to work with, an ABC from Louisiana who spoke with a drawl. Quite jarring when I first heard him open his mouth. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A related but funny thing I saw on the news in Texas once -- they were interviewing this Chinese student from Texas AM (I think) who had come to the school not knowing much English. He had won some sort of award. The kid had a really thick Texas accent overlaying his Chinese accent, it was really funny (well to me anyway, the juxtaposition I guess). I guess he learned Texasenglish from all his buds. --R On 6/20/12 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, can't y'all just hear Wilton tawkin French with a southern accent?? Randy On 20/06/2012 1:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 280SE Cab
Folks, There is a BIG difference between a correctly converted coupe into cabrio, with behind dashboard, A post, B post, behind cabine and floor structural reinforcments, or a regular chopped coupe into cabrio done a la Straman and the copycat conversions. Not one company, repeat NOT ONE, in the US did coupe into cabrio conversions with the structaral reinforcments, no matter what they printed in their brochures. They all did it the Straman way and made the car effectivly worthless. I've seen to many of them while they were building them. I call these cars a front half parts car and a rear half parts car with some interior parts, nothing more. Fredd These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Like when I made fun of the couple from Geawguh on the cruise last fall that had dinner at Versails. They were Army officers, so I suggested that Versailles was somewhere that Army officers should know about, its been in all the papers... -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:05:19 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? Message-ID: 270B84432687498F8884936BE673D777@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Evil PnP
Frosch came to me minus her front plate holder. Plate up front was bolted straight to the bumper. Classic car does not need front plate in WA. Finally got a drier day, so hit the PnP. Place is now an overpriced dump. Price hike has resulted in massive shrinkage and vandalism to stock. One guy seems to have found a rattle can and decided to make art on a bunch of cars. Another has gone around smashing the glass. Prices increase and the idiots running the shop have no idea what the heck they are selling. Hundreds of thousands of parts could be in the computer, but they have a small fraction. So they decide to guess what a part is. Plate holder became battery tray. Lug bolts are head bolts and you get charged $1 ea. Dude says he pays $85 per bolt for his plane. THis is not a flying thing that FAA deals with, junk yard car. Still overcharge for all you have a need for. Washer pump rung up as bottle and pump. I should have made them give me the bottle. And the speakers, you know the ones that have the screen riveted on? They charge for the speaker and the screen. I told them they are raping the customers. Dude just laughs. Anyway, I pick up the front plate holder and sand, derust, and shot it in black. Goes on once the paint cures. I also got two of the silver vent rings that are missing on Frosch. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed! geha8y8u
Take a slightly larger allen wrench (SAE size?) and beat it in , or file/grind the end on all flats to make it tapered, then beat it in. An allen head that is soft enough to round, is also soft enough to be squared (hexed) up by beating in a bigger size wrench. I have had good luck using a SAE size in a metric allen, and vice versa. The task of replacing the water pump has progressed, but I have hit a snag. The coolant return line from the heater core changes from rubber to metal on the passenger's side of the engine. The metal pipe goes across the front of the head and then joins the water pump with a flange and an o-ring seal. In the middle of the pipe is a bracket that is bolted to the head. That bolt has a 5 mm allen recess. I have used a socket-drive allen bit to try to remove the bolt, but the bit just turned in the recess, rounding it out. Of course, the bolt isn't the most accessable, as the attached picture shows. Any suggestions on how to get it out? Thanks, Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bolt.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 24782 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20120619/a34e3864/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? now Accetns
My Danish friends in Greenland in '78 said I spoke Danish with a Norwegian accent. We never understood how that came about, unless the study tape I was using was recorded by a Norwegian. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? now Accetns There was such a guy I used to work with, an ABC from Louisiana who spoke with a drawl. Quite jarring when I first heard him open his mouth. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A related but funny thing I saw on the news in Texas once -- they were interviewing this Chinese student from Texas AM (I think) who had come to the school not knowing much English. He had won some sort of award. The kid had a really thick Texas accent overlaying his Chinese accent, it was really funny (well to me anyway, the juxtaposition I guess). I guess he learned Texasenglish from all his buds. --R On 6/20/12 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, can't y'all just hear Wilton tawkin French with a southern accent?? Randy On 20/06/2012 1:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Reminds me: Several years ago, SWMBO and I were touring an old mansion in Natchez when tour guide mentioned the garconier, which she pronounced garsoneer. I interrupted with a question, Please pardon me, you used a term I haven't heard before; what was that again? She replied, The garsoneer - the servant's house. Oh, en Francais, garcon - maison de garcon, assurement! I exclaimed. Wilton - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Evil PnP
Oh, yeah, The vent rings were off a 1975 280 w114. Nice looking inline 6 under the hood. standard torn up interior. It looked like it had been a good enough ride when it got there, until I pulled up the carpet. Looking for the rubber stoppers for the floor board. No floor at all. It had rusted completely away. I would have pulled the body trim, but I had no desire to spend $5/lnft. Sadly I had two sets of trim for Gump, but sold it last fall. clay On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:30 PM, clay monroe wrote: Frosch came to me minus her front plate holder. Plate up front was bolted straight to the bumper. Classic car does not need front plate in WA. Finally got a drier day, so hit the PnP. Place is now an overpriced dump. Price hike has resulted in massive shrinkage and vandalism to stock. One guy seems to have found a rattle can and decided to make art on a bunch of cars. Another has gone around smashing the glass. Prices increase and the idiots running the shop have no idea what the heck they are selling. Hundreds of thousands of parts could be in the computer, but they have a small fraction. So they decide to guess what a part is. Plate holder became battery tray. Lug bolts are head bolts and you get charged $1 ea. Dude says he pays $85 per bolt for his plane. THis is not a flying thing that FAA deals with, junk yard car. Still overcharge for all you have a need for. Washer pump rung up as bottle and pump. I should have made them give me the bottle. And the speakers, you know the ones that have the screen riveted on? They charge for the speaker and the screen. I told them they are raping the customers. Dude just laughs. Anyway, I pick up the front plate holder and sand, derust, and shot it in black. Goes on once the paint cures. I also got two of the silver vent rings that are missing on Frosch. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
If you take me someplace with good Cuban or Mexican, I'll buy YOU dinner! Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: No, I won't but you a steak there. I'll buy you dinner at the Columbia in Ybor City. Some of the finest Latin cuisine in town. Yum, yum. Dan -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
On 20/06/2012 2:58 PM, WILTON wrote: But I don't tawk with much of a southern accent, do I, Max? Certainly not as much as Randy may think, anyway, and having lived near The Soo for several years, 'can even tawk with a Canadian (well, Ontario, anyway) accent when necessary, eh? Wilton Now Wilton, what is the point of living down south if you don't get to drawl a bit? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Compared to most folks in the Carolinas, I'll attest and affirm that Wilton pretty much has no accent. However he is an expert at placing any American accent, and probably most furin accents as well. Max WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: But I don't tawk with much of a southern accent, do I, Max? Certainly not as much as Randy may think, anyway, and having lived near The Soo for several years, 'can even tawk with a Canadian (well, Ontario, anyway) accent when necessary, eh? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1976 300D
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3086299079.html not mine, no interest I can check it out for any interested parties clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
Well, I can place a lot of 'em, anyway. 'Used to take great pleasure in baiting my Air Force friends, especially those from Philly, NY, NJ, etc., by saying y'all several times 'til they'd snicker, Y'all, yuk, yuk, y'all? I'd then reply with the planned, Yes, y'all. You do understand 'y'all,' don't you? It's Southern for youse guys. (Appropriate NY/NJ accent on youse guys.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? Compared to most folks in the Carolinas, I'll attest and affirm that Wilton pretty much has no accent. However he is an expert at placing any American accent, and probably most furin accents as well. Max WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: But I don't tawk with much of a southern accent, do I, Max? Certainly not as much as Randy may think, anyway, and having lived near The Soo for several years, 'can even tawk with a Canadian (well, Ontario, anyway) accent when necessary, eh? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
I probably have evolved back to it a little bit during the last 33 years back in NC, but why would want to drawl when the greater interest is to be properly understood? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? On 20/06/2012 2:58 PM, WILTON wrote: But I don't tawk with much of a southern accent, do I, Max? Certainly not as much as Randy may think, anyway, and having lived near The Soo for several years, 'can even tawk with a Canadian (well, Ontario, anyway) accent when necessary, eh? Wilton Now Wilton, what is the point of living down south if you don't get to drawl a bit? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:06:00 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I probably have evolved back to it a little bit during the last 33 years back in NC, but why would want to drawl when the greater interest is to be properly understood? When I was in the USAF stationed at Tyndall AFB, Panama City, FL, I rented a mobile home off base for a while. The 6-or-so year-old son of the owner was playing around one afternoon when I came back. He had a drawl about a foot thick. My thought was, Poor boy. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? now Accetns
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: My Danish friends in Greenland in '78 said I spoke Danish with a Norwegian accent. We never understood how that came about, unless the study tape I was using was recorded by a Norwegian. Probably nothing you would ever hear. The Danes and Norwegians I know all sound about the same to me, when they speak English. Swedish definitely has a different cadence though, and I can tell the Swedes from the Danes. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FleaBay WTF
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: There is a fool locally that is convinced his chebby blocked w107 will fetch $12k. The car is a 30 footer and no amount of vasoline and buffing will turn that turd into more than a parts car. If you need parts for a Chevy -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques? now Accetns
When I took French in college my teacher (who looked exactly like Gerard Depardieu) said I spoke French with a Quebecois accent. I have no idea how that happened. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:42:11 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?now Accetns Message-ID: 44DFC320ED0A4306ABDBFE9C3F153175@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My Danish friends in Greenland in '78 said I spoke Danish with a Norwegian accent. We never understood how that came about, unless the study tape I was using was recorded by a Norwegian. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?now Accetns
Me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?now Accetns WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: My Danish friends in Greenland in '78 said I spoke Danish with a Norwegian accent. We never understood how that came about, unless the study tape I was using was recorded by a Norwegian. Probably nothing you would ever hear. The Danes and Norwegians I know all sound about the same to me, when they speak English. Swedish definitely has a different cadence though, and I can tell the Swedes from the Danes. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?now Accetns
I was the only boy in my French classes during my junior and senior years of high school. I was very frustrated when having to listen to my classmates read French - one - word - at - a - time - with no expression and/or feeling - just - one - meaningless - disconnected - word - at - time. It would finally be my turn to read, and I would read the lines with feeling - tie the words together with proper expression - to convey a message - to give it all meaning. I've taken great pleasure in being able to do this. #1 grandson can also do this, and has told me several times how frustrating it is to listen to his classmates try to read/translate - one -word - at - a - time - in an expressionless monotone. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?now Accetns When I took French in college my teacher (who looked exactly like Gerard Depardieu) said I spoke French with a Quebecois accent. I have no idea how that happened. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:42:11 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?now Accetns Message-ID: 44DFC320ED0A4306ABDBFE9C3F153175@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My Danish friends in Greenland in '78 said I spoke Danish with a Norwegian accent. We never understood how that came about, unless the study tape I was using was recorded by a Norwegian. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 100mph 1928 Mercedes unearthed after 60 years
Spose that's the SL of it's day? Hendrik who put in a signature line to appease the masses On 21/06/12 00:34, Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161571/100mph-1928-Mercedes-60-years-rusting-away-garage-worth-1-5m.html#ixzz1yLPdBmEY --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280SE Cab
There's a chop job 280SE 3.5 available here in D.C. at Friendship Classics. The sappy part is that it still has the s/r switch on the dash. They chopped a 3.5 sunroof coupe to make a faux cabriolet. :(( The moron who did this is not going to come out ahead on the deal, I bet. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Fredd f...@knology.net wrote: Folks, There is a BIG difference between a correctly converted coupe into cabrio, with behind dashboard, A post, B post, behind cabine and floor structural reinforcments, or a regular chopped coupe into cabrio done a la Straman and the copycat conversions. Not one company, repeat NOT ONE, in the US did coupe into cabrio conversions with the structaral reinforcments, no matter what they printed in their brochures. They all did it the Straman way and made the car effectivly worthless. I've seen to many of them while they were building them. I call these cars a front half parts car and a rear half parts car with some interior parts, nothing more. Fredd These have shot up to crazy prices lately... even the coupes converted to cabs have value... they list them in german pricing guides. The last guide I have shows a converted 220SEb cab worth 32,000EUR in #3 condition. Compare to 41,000EUR for a real one and only 17,300EUR for a coupe. Regardless of the history of the car, I've seen much worst sell for $26k around here... its still a good deal, believe it or not. Even if it has holes in the floor and bondo... new floors will cost you only a smaller percentage of the car's value, so its not a big deal. I've helped a few people buy these recently and had to change my thinking... they're buying cars with bad floor repairs as investments, and its actually paying off. It is another car that I've been saying to myself buy one while you still can... but I'm afraid I've missed my chance. They're just too expensive. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1976 300D
Anyone know the official name of that barfy color? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3086299079.html not mine, no interest I can check it out for any interested parties clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed! geha8y8u
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:44 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Take a slightly larger allen wrench (SAE size?) and beat it in , or file/grind the end on all flats to make it tapered, then beat it in. I was out on the street in front of our house this evening, with my 8 bench grinder sitting on the asphalt and powered by a long extension cord doing just that. An allen head that is soft enough to round, is also soft enough to be squared (hexed) up by beating in a bigger size wrench. It's also soft enough to repeatedly round out to larger sizes, even with the modified allen wrench pounded in. Tomorrow, I will try the Alden INDUSTRIAL SERIES proGrabit(R) Broken Bolt Damaged Screw Extractor #8403P I bought this afternoon at our local DoItBest hardware store. (See http://www.prograbit.com/ ) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed! geha8y8u
Let us know how they work for you. Is the idea that you put them in a variable speed drill with a ton of torque and get a running start, or do you do them by hand? -Dave Walton On Jun 20, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:44 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Take a slightly larger allen wrench (SAE size?) and beat it in , or file/grind the end on all flats to make it tapered, then beat it in. I was out on the street in front of our house this evening, with my 8 bench grinder sitting on the asphalt and powered by a long extension cord doing just that. An allen head that is soft enough to round, is also soft enough to be squared (hexed) up by beating in a bigger size wrench. It's also soft enough to repeatedly round out to larger sizes, even with the modified allen wrench pounded in. Tomorrow, I will try the Alden INDUSTRIAL SERIES proGrabit(R) Broken Bolt Damaged Screw Extractor #8403P I bought this afternoon at our local DoItBest hardware store. (See http://www.prograbit.com/ ) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing E320 water pump: Suggestions needed! geha8y8u
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:31:32 -0400 Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: Let us know how they work for you. Is the idea that you put them in a variable speed drill with a ton of torque and get a running start, or do you do them by hand? You use a variable speed drill in reverse for burnishing/drilling, flip the tool, and then use it again in reverse for extracting the bolt. I'm not sure you get a running start; I'll have to look at the instructions more closely. Craig -Dave Walton On Jun 20, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:44 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Take a slightly larger allen wrench (SAE size?) and beat it in , or file/grind the end on all flats to make it tapered, then beat it in. I was out on the street in front of our house this evening, with my 8 bench grinder sitting on the asphalt and powered by a long extension cord doing just that. An allen head that is soft enough to round, is also soft enough to be squared (hexed) up by beating in a bigger size wrench. It's also soft enough to repeatedly round out to larger sizes, even with the modified allen wrench pounded in. Tomorrow, I will try the Alden INDUSTRIAL SERIES proGrabit(R) Broken Bolt Damaged Screw Extractor #8403P I bought this afternoon at our local DoItBest hardware store. (See http://www.prograbit.com/ ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
We! We! Y'all! So, can't y'all just hear Wilton tawkin French with a southern accent?? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?
I found a good cuban place in Tampa a few years ago. Not big or fancy, but Mr. Ward, who used to inhabit the dickarde Diesel list, recommended it. #1 Daughter liked it because they had guava turnovers. It was hard to argue with her about that! We bought some extra turnovers to take along. It was the highlight of the whole tampa/st pete area. It was on a main thoroughfare. If memory serves, a N-S highway, and on the west side. If you take me someplace with good Cuban or Mexican, I'll buy YOU dinner! Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
