Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
John Reames wrote: Ass-skating sucks! BTW, isn't the average lifespan past a broken hip (for older folks) something ridiculously short like 6 mos? It has been in my family. Only one recovery to normal life that I can think of offhand. Don't know if it's because it's such a hard injury to recover from, or if it's because the fall and broken hip was just a symptom of their advanced decline. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
Is there more to it where they tell you not to restart a warm 61x engine with the thermostat removed or something? I hate to revive a really old argument (like from my first days on the list 9 or so years ago) but you can't run a 61x engine any amount of time with the thermostat removed or the car will overheat. Double action thermostat and all that. The interesting thing I found was that I could get maybe a half hour of driving if I started with a cold engine and went but if the engine was warm and restarted it would overheat quickly... -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:48:04 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush Message-ID: bay403-eas128e002630293905068b805dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Where does the special tool, aka thermostat modified with shell casing, come into it? With OM61x engines it doesn't. According to the TFM in PDF 20-015 page 1 heading A sub 2 remove coolant thermostat (20-110). With OM60x engines it does. In the same number PDF for OM602 (w124) on page 1 under Coolant thermostat it says remove and install forcibly-opened thermostat part no. 000 589 74 63 00 (step 1) I may be presumptuous, but I assume the engineers at MB know way more about this stuff than I do. I included reference material, so no one thinks I pulled these facts from thin air. Rick When in doubt RTFM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sad to hear that you fell afoul of the laws of gravity. I wish you a speedy recovery Gravity is only a law if you choose to believe in it. thud Ouch! /thud /geocities I told my kids that the only laws they are allowed to break, without discussing it with me first, are generally-accepted laws of physics. I also told them that I will buy them a car of their choosing if they can break one. I am hoping that one day I will have to pay out. :) On Nov 26, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Head is ok but ribs are unhappy. If I just sit here all is well but if I move in certain ways I am reminded quickly that I should not do that. Sorry to hear about your mishap, hope you are feeling better by now. Randy who does not like the idea of getting old and feeble If it makes you feel better, SWMBO (who is approximately 30 :) fell down our stairs and into the basement wall a few months back; she wound up with a mild concussion and an awful lot of bed rest over the next couple of weeks. We even have that grippy rubber on the staircase, it just takes one misstep and some weird angles regardless of age. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
On 26/11/2012 6:51 PM, clay monroe wrote: Sad to hear that you fell afoul of the laws of gravity. I wish you a speedy recovery clay The thing that truly amazes me is how quickly it happened. I don't know if that is a factor of age. I think perhaps in the past, I might have slipped and recovered but this time I just slipped big time. I'm not ancient - I'm 60 - and although I am a bit over nourished, I don't consider myself to be falling apart quite yet so it is a bit of a wake up call. I also consider myself to be quite careful so it bothers me that it happened like it did. I fell a couple of times a couple of years ago but those were outdoors. I stepped out the back door in our office building on the way to my vehicle and it was icy. Down I went but I put my arm out and broke the fall mostly. I suffered a bit of pain in my shoulder for a long while - maybe because I did it a second time in the same spot. After that I seemed to catch on to the fact that it is often slippery in that spot. I have also stepped out of my truck when it was slippery and essentially ended up hanging from my seat belt with my legs under the truck. Apart from those incidents I have not fallen in many years. I recall a couple of incidents when I was working on the addition to our house but that would have been back in about 1987. I was backing down a ladder with tools in both hands and managed to lose my balance and fall backward onto the deck. I punched a bit of a hole in the palm of my hand that time as I landed on a duplex nail that was holding some bracing during the construction process. I also stepped backwards off of a stepladder one time, onto a screwdriver I had left on the floor of the porch and it rolled under my foot and I went down but I don't recall really even hurting after those incidents, but, of course, I was much younger. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Zombie hunting with class
On 26/11/2012 6:27 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649item=110979825674sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT Hendrik whose favourite zombie movie is Shaun of the dead ___ Oooh! Just the thing for the outback. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
On 26/11/2012 7:06 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I got it out. Used a different bolt. Yes, I have to take off the drain tube from under, and take out the lower bushing/nut for the oil supply tube for the turbo. Then wire the cam sprocket and pull the camshaft. Then headbolts, and then OFF with its head. Should get done by 2-3. THen off to get some scrimps and goodies. Pick up SWMBO and #1D and head off to the beach for sunset and shrimp. I plan to pack up the head and take it home to prep. seals and guides. Then put it back together next trip. So, where are you and why are you doing this there?? Did I misss something along the way? Randy Car is 1000 miles away at #1 daughter's house. I did an iron butt yesterday. 1050 miles in one day. So it is your daughter's car. I do sort of recall something on those lines. I used to do things like from here to Chicago in a day but not any more. My elder son moved to Ottawa last summer and I would like to drive out there once but I think I will need a minimum of 3 days each way. It is roughly 1300 miles from Winnipeg. We went by air in September and that was easy. Something like 2 and 1/2 hours in the air sure beats 3 days in the car. And, of course, if you factor in the cost of fuel, meals, rooms etc, it probably did not cost any more than driving would have. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
On Nov 27, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there more to it where they tell you not to restart a warm 61x engine with the thermostat removed or something? I hate to revive a really old argument (like from my first days on the list 9 or so years ago) but you can't run a 61x engine any amount of time with the thermostat removed or the car will overheat. Double action thermostat and all that. I had the thermostat removed from my 1985 300CD during the flush cycle and I could not get it to heat up past 70c. I ran it at 3000 rpm for about 20 minutes, then drove it for about fifteen. Ambient temp was about 50f. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Did they loose the breaks?
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20121127/PC16/121129494/1006/c-17-involved-in-rough-landing-and-mortar-attack --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
Curt, you certainly can run the engine without a thermostat for the purposing of cleaning the system. As mentioned, its in the manual. You should never try to drive the car normally without a thermostat, however. Jaime On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there more to it where they tell you not to restart a warm 61x engine with the thermostat removed or something? I hate to revive a really old argument (like from my first days on the list 9 or so years ago) but you can't run a 61x engine any amount of time with the thermostat removed or the car will overheat. Double action thermostat and all that. The interesting thing I found was that I could get maybe a half hour of driving if I started with a cold engine and went but if the engine was warm and restarted it would overheat quickly... -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:48:04 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush Message-ID: bay403-eas128e002630293905068b805dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Where does the special tool, aka thermostat modified with shell casing, come into it? With OM61x engines it doesn't. According to the TFM in PDF 20-015 page 1 heading A sub 2 remove coolant thermostat (20-110). With OM60x engines it does. In the same number PDF for OM602 (w124) on page 1 under Coolant thermostat it says remove and install forcibly-opened thermostat part no. 000 589 74 63 00 (step 1) I may be presumptuous, but I assume the engineers at MB know way more about this stuff than I do. I included reference material, so no one thinks I pulled these facts from thin air. Rick When in doubt RTFM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Did they loose the breaks?
Unfortunately, for our guys on the ground and in the air in that theater... it's just another day at the office. I lived in Afganistan and surrounding tribal territories for 7 years. Light duty back in the day when Russia was our enemy. The Pathan people know how to fight, unfortunately, Congress doesn't. Just my .02 cents worth. Grant... On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20121127/PC16/** 121129494/1006/c-17-involved-**in-rough-landing-and-mortar-**attackhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20121127/PC16/121129494/1006/c-17-involved-in-rough-landing-and-mortar-attack --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
Actually running it without the thermostat increased the velocity of the coolant which gives the engine more power and increases fuel economy to over 40mpg Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, you certainly can run the engine without a thermostat for the purposing of cleaning the system. As mentioned, its in the manual. You should never try to drive the car normally without a thermostat, however. Jaime On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there more to it where they tell you not to restart a warm 61x engine with the thermostat removed or something? I hate to revive a really old argument (like from my first days on the list 9 or so years ago) but you can't run a 61x engine any amount of time with the thermostat removed or the car will overheat. Double action thermostat and all that. The interesting thing I found was that I could get maybe a half hour of driving if I started with a cold engine and went but if the engine was warm and restarted it would overheat quickly... -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:48:04 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush Message-ID: bay403-eas128e002630293905068b805dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Where does the special tool, aka thermostat modified with shell casing, come into it? With OM61x engines it doesn't. According to the TFM in PDF 20-015 page 1 heading A sub 2 remove coolant thermostat (20-110). With OM60x engines it does. In the same number PDF for OM602 (w124) on page 1 under Coolant thermostat it says remove and install forcibly-opened thermostat part no. 000 589 74 63 00 (step 1) I may be presumptuous, but I assume the engineers at MB know way more about this stuff than I do. I included reference material, so no one thinks I pulled these facts from thin air. Rick When in doubt RTFM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
Each of our two black 18 lb. cats delights in slowly making his way ahead of me as I attempt to descend the stairs. I always ask them politely Excuse me - am I in your way? and they generally move a little quicker (but not much).. Andrew Human staff to Mystal and Polydamas On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 26/11/2012 6:51 PM, clay monroe wrote: Sad to hear that you fell afoul of the laws of gravity. I wish you a speedy recovery clay The thing that truly amazes me is how quickly it happened. I don't know if that is a factor of age. I think perhaps in the past, I might have slipped and recovered but this time I just slipped big time. I'm not ancient - I'm 60 - and although I am a bit over nourished, I don't consider myself to be falling apart quite yet so it is a bit of a wake up call. I also consider myself to be quite careful so it bothers me that it happened like it did. I fell a couple of times a couple of years ago but those were outdoors. I stepped out the back door in our office building on the way to my vehicle and it was icy. Down I went but I put my arm out and broke the fall mostly. I suffered a bit of pain in my shoulder for a long while - maybe because I did it a second time in the same spot. After that I seemed to catch on to the fact that it is often slippery in that spot. I have also stepped out of my truck when it was slippery and essentially ended up hanging from my seat belt with my legs under the truck. Apart from those incidents I have not fallen in many years. I recall a couple of incidents when I was working on the addition to our house but that would have been back in about 1987. I was backing down a ladder with tools in both hands and managed to lose my balance and fall backward onto the deck. I punched a bit of a hole in the palm of my hand that time as I landed on a duplex nail that was holding some bracing during the construction process. I also stepped backwards off of a stepladder one time, onto a screwdriver I had left on the floor of the porch and it rolled under my foot and I went down but I don't recall really even hurting after those incidents, but, of course, I was much younger. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Did they loose the breaks?
Well it looks like they walked away from the landing, and the airplane was not broken too bad. The pilots might have had to change their flightsuits after... --R On 11/27/12 2:28 PM, G Mann wrote: Unfortunately, for our guys on the ground and in the air in that theater... it's just another day at the office. I lived in Afganistan and surrounding tribal territories for 7 years. Light duty back in the day when Russia was our enemy. The Pathan people know how to fight, unfortunately, Congress doesn't. Just my .02 cents worth. Grant... On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20121127/PC16/** 121129494/1006/c-17-involved-**in-rough-landing-and-mortar-**attackhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20121127/PC16/121129494/1006/c-17-involved-in-rough-landing-and-mortar-attack --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:34:46 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Actually running it without the thermostat increased the velocity of the coolant which gives the engine more power and increases fuel economy to over 40mpg So THAT'S how they do it! Brilliant analysis, Kaleb! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
And of course they delight in moving about in the shadows where they can't be seen... Presumably setting up some sort of accident (Dogs have owners, cats have staff) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 27, 2012, at 16:06, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Each of our two black 18 lb. cats delights in slowly making his way ahead of me as I attempt to descend the stairs. I always ask them politely Excuse me - am I in your way? and they generally move a little quicker (but not much).. Andrew Human staff to Mystal and Polydamas On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 26/11/2012 6:51 PM, clay monroe wrote: Sad to hear that you fell afoul of the laws of gravity. I wish you a speedy recovery clay The thing that truly amazes me is how quickly it happened. I don't know if that is a factor of age. I think perhaps in the past, I might have slipped and recovered but this time I just slipped big time. I'm not ancient - I'm 60 - and although I am a bit over nourished, I don't consider myself to be falling apart quite yet so it is a bit of a wake up call. I also consider myself to be quite careful so it bothers me that it happened like it did. I fell a couple of times a couple of years ago but those were outdoors. I stepped out the back door in our office building on the way to my vehicle and it was icy. Down I went but I put my arm out and broke the fall mostly. I suffered a bit of pain in my shoulder for a long while - maybe because I did it a second time in the same spot. After that I seemed to catch on to the fact that it is often slippery in that spot. I have also stepped out of my truck when it was slippery and essentially ended up hanging from my seat belt with my legs under the truck. Apart from those incidents I have not fallen in many years. I recall a couple of incidents when I was working on the addition to our house but that would have been back in about 1987. I was backing down a ladder with tools in both hands and managed to lose my balance and fall backward onto the deck. I punched a bit of a hole in the palm of my hand that time as I landed on a duplex nail that was holding some bracing during the construction process. I also stepped backwards off of a stepladder one time, onto a screwdriver I had left on the floor of the porch and it rolled under my foot and I went down but I don't recall really even hurting after those incidents, but, of course, I was much younger. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
On 27/11/2012 3:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Each of our two black 18 lb. cats delights in slowly making his way ahead of me as I attempt to descend the stairs. I always ask them politely Excuse me - am I in your way? and they generally move a little quicker (but not much).. Andrew Human staff to Mystal and Polydamas Our little dog will run down the stairs and pass me on the way. Good thing I did not fall on him. He is a Bichon so not quite as heavy as your cats. About 15#. He always goes up the right side and down the left side. You can see the pattern of his feet on the carpet as we go up the middle and do not normally step on the same spots that he does. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
Not only that but if your ac did not blow ice cold before it will now Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:34:46 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Actually running it without the thermostat increased the velocity of the coolant which gives the engine more power and increases fuel economy to over 40mpg So THAT'S how they do it! Brilliant analysis, Kaleb! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
I got 2 85lb poodles doing that sort of thing, but I shoo them ahead of me and they seem happy to comply. More time/fun to tearass around the house that way. They would probably love a big slide to get down more quickly. --R On 11/27/12 4:50 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 27/11/2012 3:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Each of our two black 18 lb. cats delights in slowly making his way ahead of me as I attempt to descend the stairs. I always ask them politely Excuse me - am I in your way? and they generally move a little quicker (but not much).. Andrew Human staff to Mystal and Polydamas Our little dog will run down the stairs and pass me on the way. Good thing I did not fall on him. He is a Bichon so not quite as heavy as your cats. About 15#. He always goes up the right side and down the left side. You can see the pattern of his feet on the carpet as we go up the middle and do not normally step on the same spots that he does. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Flush
BUT ONLY in deepest winter. Randy On 27/11/2012 5:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Not only that but if your ac did not blow ice cold before it will now Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:34:46 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Actually running it without the thermostat increased the velocity of the coolant which gives the engine more power and increases fuel economy to over 40mpg So THAT'S how they do it! Brilliant analysis, Kaleb! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Well, it is my car, but since I didn't need it, and my 300D she had needed more work than I could do in a week there, I swapped cars and left the SDL there. SHE only drives SLs (except for when she has one of my diesels available) Car is 1000 miles away at #1 daughter's house. I did an iron butt yesterday. 1050 miles in one day. So it is your daughter's car. I do sort of recall something on those lines. I used to do things like from here to Chicago in a day but not any more. My elder son moved to Ottawa last summer and I would like to drive out there once but I think I will need a minimum of 3 days each way. It is roughly 1300 miles from Winnipeg. We went by air in September and that was easy. Something like 2 and 1/2 hours in the air sure beats 3 days in the car. And, of course, if you factor in the cost of fuel, meals, rooms etc, it probably did not cost any more than driving would have. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
#4 was leaking so bad today it was going pfft pfft pfft I could hear it. Temporarily I removed the injector and prechamber and seated it a bit better. It still bubbles. Checked on the rest 2-5 are bubbling (4 is still much more). I was pretty careful to make sure that the seats were nice and clean when I put the prechambers back in. They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
If you moved pre-chambers from a 14 head, then I think machining is required on the pre-chamber so they will fully seat. Hopefully someone who has btdt will chime in. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: #4 was leaking so bad today it was going pfft pfft pfft I could hear it. Temporarily I removed the injector and prechamber and seated it a bit better. It still bubbles. Checked on the rest 2-5 are bubbling (4 is still much more). I was pretty careful to make sure that the seats were nice and clean when I put the prechambers back in. They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
Perhaps comparing 22 pre-chamber to a 14 pre-chamber will reveal the difference. I think the place that needs to be cut down is the shoulder transition from the nipple to the base of the pre-chamber. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you moved pre-chambers from a 14 head, then I think machining is required on the pre-chamber so they will fully seat. Hopefully someone who has btdt will chime in. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: #4 was leaking so bad today it was going pfft pfft pfft I could hear it. Temporarily I removed the injector and prechamber and seated it a bit better. It still bubbles. Checked on the rest 2-5 are bubbling (4 is still much more). I was pretty careful to make sure that the seats were nice and clean when I put the prechambers back in. They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Out There
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:09:35 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I got 2 85lb poodles doing that sort of thing, but I shoo them ahead of me and they seem happy to comply. More time/fun to tearass around the house that way. They would probably love a big slide to get down more quickly. So how about doing what a neighbor did for his sons: installing a fire pole? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:21:41 -0500 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? They are not just spacer rings; you must renew them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q pix
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:01:12 -0600 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sorry, I was looking here, different album: https://picasaweb.google.com/m/viewer#album/110184791268815842578/5813450881345490977 Link is for mobile devices, not sure how that will work for PC. It doesn't. I did, however, go back to the original URL, https://picasaweb.google.com/110184791268815842578/OffWithHerHead?authuser=0feat=directlink and navigate to the MB RustyQ 2011 album. I then found Picasa, or google+ now, doesn't work in Seamonkey, so I switched to Firefox. With that browser, it works awkwardly. I'm not impressed. #36 is Rick MacJava and I looking under the hood of his wagon. Anyway, I found the picture with three people in it, a man in a plaid shirt, a man with a hat in a yellow shirt, and a woman in a black tank top. Which one is you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ian Frazier Does It Again
You have to love this guy... http://www.torinfo.com/justforlaughs/coyote_v_acme.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q pix
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:57:00 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: #36 is Rick MacJava and I looking under the hood of his wagon. Which one is Rusty? One would think a picture documentation of a RustyQ would prominently feature pictures of Rusty, his family, and his car ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
-Original Message- From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Nov 27, 2012 7:19 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603. Those are seals, and you must use new ones. However, the prechambers from an earlier head will often not seat properly in a #22 head because the new ones are shaped a bit different. The taper where the large diameter first starts to taper down is narrower in the new pre-chambers. Old style ones usually need to be machined down at a 45 degree angle a tad to fit. Or you can buy new ones and injectors for $600 a hole or so (not). Use some plastigauge to check -- a tiny bit on the seal must be squeezed completely out when you lightly tighten the retainer ring. If it is not, they will leak, and you have to either machine the head or the prechambers. Peter On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:21:41 -0500 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: They already had spacer rings on them, should I have renewed those? They are not just spacer rings; you must renew them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q pix
I'm in the yellow shirt and straw hat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:01:12 -0600 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sorry, I was looking here, different album: https://picasaweb.google.com/m/viewer#album/110184791268815842578/5813450881345490977 Link is for mobile devices, not sure how that will work for PC. It doesn't. I did, however, go back to the original URL, https://picasaweb.google.com/110184791268815842578/OffWithHerHead?authuser=0feat=directlink and navigate to the MB RustyQ 2011 album. I then found Picasa, or google+ now, doesn't work in Seamonkey, so I switched to Firefox. With that browser, it works awkwardly. I'm not impressed. #36 is Rick MacJava and I looking under the hood of his wagon. Anyway, I found the picture with three people in it, a man in a plaid shirt, a man with a hat in a yellow shirt, and a woman in a black tank top. Which one is you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q pix
#5 has I believe, standing, Rusty in blue shirt, sunglasses, khaki cap; and also standing Lady with red hair and sunglasses may be Mrs Rusty, looking in purse. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:57:00 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: #36 is Rick MacJava and I looking under the hood of his wagon. Which one is Rusty? One would think a picture documentation of a RustyQ would prominently feature pictures of Rusty, his family, and his car ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
On 11/27/2012 7:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: If you moved pre-chambers from a 14 head, then I think machining is required on the pre-chamber so they will fully seat. Hopefully someone who has btdt will chime in. Nay it was 22 prechambers. Ill get a set and go from there. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2883 miles
WOW, What a trip! 1. Our first leg was to Ohio for a family reunion, and thence to Chicago for outlaw Thanksgiving (flew to Seattle and back). Halfway to Ohio the new monovalve developed a tiny tear causing no heat at cruise rpms. I also realized the Aux pump had failed, so we had multiple issues. Rusty was able to get a Saturday delivery of the affected parts, and everything worked perfectly until driving in downtown Chicago on Sunday afternoon. While at a stop light, I noticed the temperature climb from it's normal 90 to about 115at the green, it returned to about 100 and then continued to fluctuate from 95-110. Pulled over to check under the hood, and noticed that the NEW aux pump was dripping coolant at idle from the joint between the motor and pump body, and spraying it at high rpm's. Nice! After a few sentences of NAVY vocabulary, I was able to get a phillips screwdriver on the 4 screws which hold the thing together, and the leak stopped. This was a MTC (?) replacement, and it was only on the car for about 400 miles before it started to leak. UNSAT. 2. While on the subject of MTC, I have gone through 2 monovalve kits this year from MTC, and each have had a VERY small tear in the diaphragm which renders heat inop at cruise rpms. During our drive to today from Buffalo to Maine, it happened again! ARGH!!! No heat at cruise sucks. I learned that I could go max hot while at idle, and it would stay in hot, but the second that the valve would try to cycle, it would stay cold. I will bet that the NEW MTC monovalve has a tiny tear like the others.maybe it's time to drop the $135 for an OEM??? 3. And of course...what would a major road trip be without a vacuum issue? While I as in the autoparts store looking for the right coolant (unsuccessfully), SWMBO unlocked the car from the pax side. Nothing has worked right since then: must use the manual shutoff for the engine, no locks, cruise control intermittent, weird climate control stuff (might be monovalve), and definitely harder shifting. The investigation starts tomorrow now that I am in garage and not FMAO. All of that being said, this is still the BEST automobile that I have ever owned. The only car that comes close in terms of driving is the '93 Northstar Eldorado, and it isn't that close if you consider reliability. My old Volvo 240's are up there in the reliability department, but then you have to drive a Volvo...Sorry daughter, I hope you are still enjoying the 245! to be continued ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2883 miles
On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: maybe it's time to drop the $135 for an OEM??? You get what you pay for, etc. Glad you had a good trip otherwise. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2883 miles
I'd guess you have a ruptured diaphragm in the lock system on the passenger door. Not applicable if you have a W126 or W124, as the lock system is not engine vacuum operated. If you do have a W126, you have a cracked plastic block in the main vac line to the booster, or some hoses off. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q pix
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:45:23 -0600 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: #5 has I believe, standing, Rusty in blue shirt, sunglasses, khaki cap; and also standing Lady with red hair and sunglasses may be Mrs Rusty, looking in purse. So, then, he's the fellow in #18 and #19 manning the grill. I though it might be he because as the host of the shin-dig, it would be logical for him to be running the grill. Rusty, is the Lady with red hair and sunglasses in https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EkvJI9yF5wQ/Tm1iCVM090I/gO8/BoldCfjMw3Y/s953/DSCF1152.JPG your wife? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Less OT - Re: Ian Frazier Does It Again
That was good, but this one is more relevent to the list members -- http://www.torinfo.com/justforlaughs/nationalities.html On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: You have to love this guy... http://www.torinfo.com/justforlaughs/coyote_v_acme.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaking prechambers 603.
Those are seals, and you must use new ones. As usual, Peter is right. Those are not spacers, they are seals. If you take out the prechambers, you need new seals. They should have been in the head gasket set. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Less OT - Re: Ian Frazier Does It Again
That was good, but this one is more relevent to the list members -- http://www.torinfo.com/justforlaughs/nationalities.html I think this one is best of the lot: Americans: Drink weak, pissy-tasting beer. Canadians: Drink strong, pissy-tasting beer. Brits : Drink warm, beery-tasting piss. Aussies : Drink anything with alcohol in it. And the last line about aussies is the best of the best. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
