Re: Can't upload binary file (Apache::ASP sample)
- Original Message -
From: Joshua Chamas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: Can't upload binary file (Apache::ASP sample)
So first, I might use a sysread(FILEHANDLE,SCALAR,LENGTH,OFFSET)
call to slurp the binary into a scalar, then if you want to print
it, try a $Response-BinaryWrite() as shown at:
I have to save file at server, and as response simply make link to it (IMG
SRC=...).
I've tried to use sysread syswriteb but result remained the same: 0x20
instead 0x00... :((
If you want to make your example above work, try setting OUT
to binmode, with binmode(OUT), before you write to it.
I'm sure that file uploads - filesize is the same, but content differs...
and this code works fine at local machine:
if ((open IN, "in.jpg") (open OUT, "out.jpg")) {
binmode(IN);
binmode(OUT);
while (IN) { print OUT $_; }
close IN;
close OUT;
}
so I think all trouble is in $filehandle.. no I'm SURE!
that code works perfectly fine on test data, and there is no mess with 0x00
and 0x20!
i've read something about filehandles at
http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/CGI/cgi_docs.html#upload_caveats - that
it must be obtained throug different package - like that:
$file = $query-param('file to upload');
$file = "main::$file";
...
but I don't know what package I have to use...
RE: Embperl 1.2.1: multipart/form-data processing and nested pages
Hi,
I am trying to process a file upload with multipart/form-data in a
nested page that is called with Execute(). I know that
multipart/form-data can't be processed twice, so I tried a call like
this:
Execute( { inputfile = 'process_form.epl',
param = [$whatever,\%fdat],
fdat = \%fdat,
options = optDisableFormData });
I tried to read from the filehandle via %fdat and even via the explicit
reference from the parameters, and got rather strange results. Whatever
I do, it works flawlessly with requests from Netscape on Unix platforms,
but when I do a request with either Netscape or IE from Windows, there
seems to be no filehandle.
Is there any clean way to parse the file uploads from a nested page ? I
am very confused about the different behavior depending on the client
type.
Is the main page (from where you call Execute) also a Embperl page? I guess
yes, then you don't have to pass %fdat and set optDisableFormData, Embperl
will take care for you, just write:
Execute( { inputfile = 'process_form.epl',
param = [$whatever],}) ;
or shorter
Execute('process_form.epl', $whatever) ;
Does this change anything?
What version of CGI.pm you have installed? Maybe it will help to upgrade?
If this all doesn't change anything, does it make a difference if you try to
access the filehandle from the main page, instead from the nested page?
Gerald
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Re: UK based modperl agency required for Virgin
Appologies to the list for my last mail which should have been private. On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Clinton Gormley wrote: You have all supported me tremendously through building my first mod_perl web site : http://www.orgasmicwines.com - many thanks. -- Matt/ Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases. Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.
RE: Problems with custom config directives in user written modules
I cannot seem to get custom configuration directives to work in
apache (1.3.11) modperl (1.21). I would presume the examples in the
book do not work either. I found someone having similar problems
in the list archives, to which Doug provided a workaround which also
does not work.
Any advice about this issue is helpful. Please reply to me directly as
well.
In Makefile.PL:
my @directives = (
...
{ name= 'Directive4',
errmsg = 'Anything',
args_how= 'RAW_ARGS',
req_override= 'OR_ALL',
},
);
In the httpd.conf file:
Perl
require Apache::TestDirective;
delete $INC{'Apache/TestDirective.pm'};
/Perl
#PerlModule Apache::TestDirective
Why are you using 'require', and not the PerlModule line you commented
out?
Directive4 foo
What comes back:
Invalid command 'Directive4', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a
module not included in the server configuration
--
Eric
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[Embperl + SSI]GET parameters encoding.
hi list, I'm using a mix of SSI and Embperl in a site that's almost done. I use a set of SSI templates that load the 'content file' indicated by the query string. And sometimes the 'content file' is an Embperl file. So far so good. Now for a specific page, I definitely need to pass some variables to the Embperl page. As I am using !--#include virtual="$QUERY_STRING_UNESCAPED" -- in the SSI template, [which is not safe, I know, but the server is quite unsafe by itself] I've tried to URL-encode the second set of parameters when building the link. But I hit a brick wall in the way: As soon as I add a 2nd set of parameters, the subrequest doesn't 'parse' the embperl file. It just provides the unparsed emperl! Is there a way to achieve what I need to do, and still depend on the template I've got [ that is, I don't want to re-work my templates in Embperl ! ] . Thanks! ml -- -- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion. -- -- - Martin Langhoff @ S C I M Multimedia Technology - - http://www.scim.net | God is real until - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | declared integer -
[Embperl] Packages and shared code.
hi
I've built my forst 'complex' site with Embperl, with a series of
web-applications like a calendar and an address book relie.
The code is modularized in a main lib, where all the DBI routines
are implemented and a separated lib for each 'application'. These libs
are 'Executed' to compile the functions into a pre-set package.
Now I'm trying to go one step further and make the code ready to be
implemented in a few more sites. The problem is that both the code and
static varibles remain there in memory-space in a 'shared package'. And
this 'shared package' model blocks me from having many sites with
a] different 'configuration related' static variables
b] different code versions
The only solution is to manually change the package -- for each file
that is part of the site. Not to mention the (many) function calls with
the myPackage::mySub() syntax I'm using.
Now, what the hell can I do?
What I want is to be able to designate the 'running package' from a
config file, like I'm doing for many other config issues.
I guess I could eval(" package $config{package}") but I don't want
to 'eval' every damned function call. Grrr.
Bear in mind I'm a bit new to Perl and Embperl. Maybe I just missed
the so easy solution altogether...
thanks!
ml
-- --
To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion.
-- --
- Martin Langhoff @ S C I M Multimedia Technology -
- http://www.scim.net | God is real until -
- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | declared integer -
RE: [Embperl] Packages and shared code.
hi I've built my forst 'complex' site with Embperl, with a series of web-applications like a calendar and an address book relie. The code is modularized in a main lib, where all the DBI routines are implemented and a separated lib for each 'application'. These libs are 'Executed' to compile the functions into a pre-set package. Now I'm trying to go one step further and make the code ready to be implemented in a few more sites. The problem is that both the code and static varibles remain there in memory-space in a 'shared package'. And this 'shared package' model blocks me from having many sites with a] different 'configuration related' static variables b] different code versions The only solution is to manually change the package -- for each file that is part of the site. Not to mention the (many) function calls with the myPackage::mySub() syntax I'm using. Now, what the hell can I do? A global variable is global for the whole Webserver. That's always true for mod_perl and can't be changed. Put your code and data inside an object, the you can create different objects for the differnt sites. Gerald - Gerald Richterecos electronic communication services gmbh Internetconnect * Webserver/-design/-datenbanken * Consulting Post: Tulpenstrasse 5 D-55276 Dienheim b. Mainz E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice:+49 6133 925151 WWW:http://www.ecos.de Fax: +49 6133 925152 -
RE: [Embperl] Packages and shared code.
Martin A. Langhoff wrote:
Now I'm trying to go one step further and make the code ready to be
implemented in a few more sites. The problem is that both the code and
static varibles remain there in memory-space in a 'shared package'. And
this 'shared package' model blocks me from having many sites with
a] different 'configuration related' static variables
b] different code versions
(a) keep from putting your 'configuration related' static variables in the
code. Either user a PerlSetVar configuraton or a package with just
configuration information, I'd say.
(b) for the different code versions, don't set the package using an eval.
Perhaps do something like setting up a hash with values which are references to
subs
perhaps $MyCalendar::handlers-{$code_version}{$functions_name} could be how
you reference all of your functions for all of your code versions. Each code
version is in a package like MyCalendar::vTwo and it's smart enough to setup
it's own $MyCalendar::vTwo-{$function_name} hash and create a reference to it
in $MyCalendar-{$code_version}. You can then pass the $code_version to your
front end embperl code as a string in a PerlSetVar config.
If you pass which code version in a PerlSetVar, you can probably have the same
embperl code referenced from different virtual hosts with different
configuration values
Now, this is not the only way to do it.. and it's probably not the best. I'm
sure the OO people will say, "setup a hash of constructors for all your code
versions." But it's just here to give you some ideas.
- David Harris
Principal Engineer, DRH Internet Services
Re: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
Seeing as how I might be the first person on watch today (it's only 1/4 to 11am EST, after all...), I'll field this... Mark Jaaneston [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this a forum where recruiters can spam for new business? I am new here - is the any penalty for these guys? At the very least, I'd like to post references to anti-recruiter job sites. Guys, you can avoid these blood-sucking leeches and get contract and permanent work without having 30-60% of your earning potential stolen from you because they once happened to know somebody that you didn't. Yea, I hate recruiters. Got burned twice, the second by a company that swore up and down they were honest, and they were, for the first contract. Whoops... Sorry, I get a little upset about being raped twice. Do we discourage this type of spam? MJ. I'm very sorry to hear that you were treated poorly in the past. I've been unimpressed by recruiters in the past as well, and as such I tend to be very discriminating about such things. However, no, we don't discourage this type of email. (It doesn't even qualify as "spam" 'round these parts) As Doug MacEachern, mod_perl creator and "list owner", explained to me once, he is (or at least, has been) an independent contractor himself, and so he appreciates that a number of people on this list could benefit from seeing this kind of information posted here. And information for the benefit of the people on this list is what this list is all about, whatever form it may take. Cheers, Richard - Richard Dice * Personal 514 816 9568 * Fax 514 816 9569 Open Source Evangelist, HBE Software * http://www.hbesoftware.com ShadNet Creator * http://shadnet.shad.ca/ * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Occasional Writer, HotWired * http://www.hotwired.com/webmonkey/ "squeeze the world 'til it's small enough to join us heel to toe" - jesus jones
RE: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
Mark, modperl job offers have always been welcome on the modperl list. Please search the archives and you'll find this fact. Cheers, -- Eric hi, i'm not a recruiter, im hiring directly for the company i work for, which, by the way, has put a lot of time and support into helping with mod_perl development. josh Mark Jaaneston [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this a forum where recruiters can spam for new business? I am new here - is the any penalty for these guys? At the very least, I'd like to post references to anti-recruiter job sites. Guys, you can avoid these blood-sucking leeches and get contract and permanent work without having 30-60% of your earning potential stolen from you because they once happened to know somebody that you didn't. Yea, I hate recruiters. Got burned twice, the second by a company that swore up and down they were honest, and they were, for the first contract. Whoops... Sorry, I get a little upset about being raped twice. Do we discourage this type of spam? MJ. At 07:24 AM 2/1/00 -0600, Bobbi Short wrote: Hello. I am a Recruiter with Tech-Pro, Inc. Tech-Pro is a computer consulting services company with offices in Indianapolis, Indiana; Minneapolis, Minnesota; Denver, Colorado; and Phoenix, Arizona. We provide experienced computer professionals on a contract basis. Our consulting staff consists of salaried, hourly and independent contractors. We have immediate opportunities available for mod_perl architects in the Indianapolis area. Ideally, these are contract to hire opportunities with a very large, well known and respected national company. However, for the right candidate, the company is willing to do contract only. If you are interested in learning more about these opportunities, please email me your resume. Be sure to include your phone number and the best time of day to reach you. Thanks for responding. I look forward to hearing from you soon. To learn more about Tech-Pro, please visit our web site at www.tech-pro.com http://www.tech-pro.com . Bobbi Short Tech-Pro, Inc. 8041 Knue Road Indianapolis, IN 46250 Main: (317) 577-4840 Fax: (317) 845-0389 Office locations in Indianapolis, Denver, the Twin Cities, and Phoenix email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tech-pro.com Tech-Pro, Inc. is member of the National Association of Computer Consulting Businesses (NACCB). -- At 07:23 AM 2/1/00 -0800, Josh rotenberg wrote: hi, job i am looking for one or two short to medium term contractors to work on a fairly large scale mod_perl application. the qualified applicant will be able to work in-house (south of market in san francisco) at least most of the time, and be available on a somewhat regular schedule (9-5, 10-6, whatever). in addition to being a perl master and mod_perl ninja, the qualified applicant would also have a firm knowledge of product localization. specifically, i need people with experience in developing applications that support asian languages, so knowledge of asian language encodings is important. the contract will most likely be 3-4 months, full time, with the distinct possibility of a longer contract or full-time employment later on. again, qualifications: * excellent perl skills, OO design and implementation * demonstrated proficiency with mod_perl and apache * solaris and linux experience a must * knowledge of doublebyte character encoding and product localization * firm grasp of MIME and some of the mail RFCs * knowledge of cvs, rpm * ability to work independently, on tight schedules * ability to communicate effectively with those less technical * ability to work in-house in san francisco * ability to wrap c/c++ with xs is a big plus * database stuff is a big plus * C apache module experience a plus please send resumes (text/plain or text/html preferred) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] /job thanks, josh -- josh rotenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.parasite.com - Kenneth Frankel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- josh rotenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.parasite.com
Response to Your Email
Mark: I'd like to try to say something to make you feel better, but I know it's probably not possible. As recruiters, we, too, deal with other recruiting agencies and they are not always ethical. Just so you and others know, it is in the contractors best interest to work for an agency that is a member of the NACCB (National Association of Computer Consulting Businesses). Member agencies must meet and abide by certain standards. See the attached link. http://www.naccb.org/about/principles1.html http://www.naccb.org/about/principles1.html I'm not trying to sell anyone on Tech-Pro, but we are a member firm. I apologize if I've offended anyone with my posting. I will not contact anyone without their permission. I belong to a similar group at my home email address and I know sometimes minor issues can cause a lot of wasted time and grief. That was not my intent. That's why the reference indicated it was a job posting - if not interested, just delete it. Once again, I apologize if I've offended anyone. Bobbi Short Tech-Pro, Inc. 8041 Knue Road Indianapolis, IN 46250 Main: (317) 577-4840 Fax: (317) 845-0389 Toll Free: (877) 874-5627 Office locations in Indianapolis, Denver, the Twin Cities, and Phoenix email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tech-pro.com Tech-Pro, Inc. is member of the National Association of Computer Consulting Businesses (NACCB).
RE: www.modperl.com
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lincoln Stein Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: www.modperl.com The site should be up at its new location. Let me know if you see any problems with it. I haven't done much with it yet except for fixing a bug in one of the Hangman examples. It looked like a Y2K bug at first, because the cookie dates were set to 1969, but it was just an ordinary bug. How about putting Chapter 3,4, and 5 online. I own one copy and its usually at work. Sometime when I am at home I wish I had another copy. It would be awesome if I were able to get at the other chapters online. I don't suppose you can convince O'reilly to make this there OpenBook # 2 and have the whole book online ? --- Baiju Thakkar http://www.perlmonth.comhttp://www.linuxmonth.com Just use Perl; #!/boot/linux
RE: www.modperl.com
On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, Baiju Thakkar wrote: The site should be up at its new location. Let me know if you see any problems with it. I haven't done much with it yet except for fixing a bug in one of the Hangman examples. It looked like a Y2K bug at first, because the cookie dates were set to 1969, but it was just an ordinary bug. How about putting Chapter 3,4, and 5 online. I own one copy and its usually at work. Sometime when I am at home I wish I had another copy. It would be awesome if I were able to get at the other chapters online. I don't suppose you can convince O'reilly to make this there OpenBook # 2 and have the whole book online ? I can recommend getting 2 copies. Even just for the reference card it's worth it :) -- Matt/ Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases. Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.
mod_perl installed as DSO
Hi I am trying to install mod_perl-1.21 with Apache1.3.11, I am following the procedure in the book (at least I thought I was following), everything looks fine, but when I restarted httpd I got the following error message from errror_log [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [error] Cannot remove module mod_perl.c: not found in module list [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 configured -- resuming normal operations Is there any one can tell me how to get rid of the error message "Cannot remove module mod_perl.c" ? My makepl_args.mod_perl has the following contents APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.11/src DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 \ ADD_MODULE=log_referer,rewrite,proxy,so,vhost_alias,mime_magic,expires \ APACHE_PREFIX=/usr/local/apache_dso \ PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 Thanks, PC Wang
Re: mod_perl installed as DSO
"Wang, Pin-Chieh" wrote: Hi I am trying to install mod_perl-1.21 with Apache1.3.11, I am following the procedure in the book (at least I thought I was following), everything looks fine, but when I restarted httpd I got the following error message from errror_log [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [error] Cannot remove module mod_perl.c: not found in module list [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 configured -- resuming normal operations Is there any one can tell me how to get rid of the error message "Cannot remove module mod_perl.c" ? My makepl_args.mod_perl has the following contents APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.11/src DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 \ ADD_MODULE=log_referer,rewrite,proxy,so,vhost_alias,mime_magic,expires \ APACHE_PREFIX=/usr/local/apache_dso \ PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 Thanks, PC Wang this is how i compiled apache and modperl on redhat 6.1 hope this helps for modperl 1.21 perl Makefile.PL USE_APXS=1 USE_DSO=1 WITH_APXS=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs EVERYTHING=1 make make install for apache 1.3.9 ./configure --enable-rule=shared_core --with-perl=/usr/bin/perl --enable-module=so --enable-module=rewrite the version of perl on here is This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-linux
Version 0.02 of IPC::Cache available
Hi, [I sent this out a while back, but it never made it through. Odd.] Based on some great feedback from this list, I was able to remove the dependency on IPC::Shareable. Not that I dislike IPC::Shareable -- to the contrary, it does what it does rather well -- but I was really looking for something more lightweight. I discovered Maurice Aubrey's excellent IPC::ShareLite module, which exactly filled the role I needed. IPC::Cache now relies on the efficient ShareLite shared memory routines, but the interface did not change at all. You can find it at CPAN now: http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IPC/IPC-Cache-0.02.tar.gz Thanks for the feedback! -DeWitt
Re: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
My apologies to you, Josh, you are one of the good guys. Still, I don't know if it is appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be a forum for recruiting -- what's the consensus on this guys? MJ At 07:41 AM 2/1/00 -0800, josh rotenberg wrote: hi, i'm not a recruiter, im hiring directly for the company i work for, which, by the way, has put a lot of time and support into helping with mod_perl development. josh Mark Jaaneston [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this a forum where recruiters can spam for new business? I am new here - is the any penalty for these guys? At the very least, I'd like to post references to anti-recruiter job sites. Guys, you can avoid these blood-sucking leeches and get contract and permanent work without having 30-60% of your earning potential stolen from you because they once happened to know somebody that you didn't. Yea, I hate recruiters. Got burned twice, the second by a company that swore up and down they were honest, and they were, for the first contract. Whoops... Sorry, I get a little upset about being raped twice. Do we discourage this type of spam? MJ. At 07:24 AM 2/1/00 -0600, Bobbi Short wrote: Hello. I am a Recruiter with Tech-Pro, Inc. Tech-Pro is a computer consulting services company with offices in Indianapolis, Indiana; Minneapolis, Minnesota; Denver, Colorado; and Phoenix, Arizona. We provide experienced computer professionals on a contract basis. Our consulting staff consists of salaried, hourly and independent contractors. We have immediate opportunities available for mod_perl architects in the Indianapolis area. Ideally, these are contract to hire opportunities with a very large, well known and respected national company. However, for the right candidate, the company is willing to do contract only. If you are interested in learning more about these opportunities, please email me your resume. Be sure to include your phone number and the best time of day to reach you. Thanks for responding. I look forward to hearing from you soon. To learn more about Tech-Pro, please visit our web site at www.tech-pro.com http://www.tech-pro.com . Bobbi Short Tech-Pro, Inc. 8041 Knue Road Indianapolis, IN 46250 Main: (317) 577-4840 Fax: (317) 845-0389 Office locations in Indianapolis, Denver, the Twin Cities, and Phoenix email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tech-pro.com Tech-Pro, Inc. is member of the National Association of Computer Consulting Businesses (NACCB). -- At 07:23 AM 2/1/00 -0800, Josh rotenberg wrote: hi, job i am looking for one or two short to medium term contractors to work on a fairly large scale mod_perl application. the qualified applicant will be able to work in-house (south of market in san francisco) at least most of the time, and be available on a somewhat regular schedule (9-5, 10-6, whatever). in addition to being a perl master and mod_perl ninja, the qualified applicant would also have a firm knowledge of product localization. specifically, i need people with experience in developing applications that support asian languages, so knowledge of asian language encodings is important. the contract will most likely be 3-4 months, full time, with the distinct possibility of a longer contract or full-time employment later on. again, qualifications: * excellent perl skills, OO design and implementation * demonstrated proficiency with mod_perl and apache * solaris and linux experience a must * knowledge of doublebyte character encoding and product localization * firm grasp of MIME and some of the mail RFCs * knowledge of cvs, rpm * ability to work independently, on tight schedules * ability to communicate effectively with those less technical * ability to work in-house in san francisco * ability to wrap c/c++ with xs is a big plus * database stuff is a big plus * C apache module experience a plus please send resumes (text/plain or text/html preferred) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] /job thanks, josh -- josh rotenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.parasite.com - Kenneth Frankel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- josh rotenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.parasite.com Once upon a time you wrote ... - Kenneth Frankel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Mark Jaaneston wrote: Still, I don't know if it is appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be a forum for recruiting -- what's the consensus on this guys? mod_perl relevant job postings has always been welcome on this list. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 60M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Using network appliance Filer with modperl
According to Elizabeth Mattijsen: We have been using such a setup for over 2 years now. The only real issue we've found is not so much with mod_perl itself, but with MySQL. If you put your databases on the NetApp, either have a seperate central database server, or make damn sure you do not use the same database from two different front-end servers. We've seen database corruption that way (using Linux front-end servers with NFS 2). It is probably reasonable for MySQL to assume that only one server is accessing the files at once since it has its own remote client access protocol. Do you happen to know if there is a performance difference for MySQL between local drives and a NetApp? Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anti-recruiter Re: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
Richard Dice wrote: Mark Jaaneston [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this a forum where recruiters can spam for new business? I am new here - is the any penalty for these guys? At the very least, I'd like to post references to anti-recruiter job sites. Caveat emptor Could you please post the references or email me direct? I am an independent contractor in the Sunnyvale, CA area. I do not mind the job posts, so long as they don't take over the list. But I only go direct. I am always interested in finding new prospects, and I would love to see what you have that helps you find jobs. Thanks, Yea, I hate recruiters. Got burned twice, the second by a company that swore up and down they were honest, and they were, for the first contract. Whoops... Sorry, I get a little upset about being raped twice. Do we discourage this type of spam? MJ. I'm very sorry to hear that you were treated poorly in the past. I've been unimpressed by recruiters in the past as well, and as such -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (408)543-6451 Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
Fair enough, sorry for the throat-biting, everybody. Let me just say: 1) Ask the recruiter what they are charging the company you will be working for (the bill rate). If they don't want to give it to you, your butt is being humped. Find another recruiter. 2) VERIFY this with the company you will be working for. Get the recruiter to give permission to the company's accounting department. Ask them to see an invoice. 3) The most they should be taking is 25%. You can even negociate a sliding scale, getting lower over time. It should always be at most 25% or find a different recruiter. 4) Everything is a negotiation. The recruiters are negotiating for themselves. BTW, #1 and #2 are from the Contract Employee's handbook, at www.cehandbook.com. A lot of good techniques there for finding your own contracts, how to wrassle the recruiters in line, etc. The NACCB that TechPro talks about has a fuzzy list of policies and doesn't seem to be as good to the consultants as it could be. First, the NACCB has been criticized here: http://rmpcp.com/naacbmem.html and more importantly, their list of policies does not specifically state how people won't get screwed, ie, they will disclose the pay and bill rates and markups to everybody, which is one of the things the CEHandbook says to insist on. Finally: Group apology. My above How-to-deal-with-recruiters posting may approach spam for mod_perl, but since recruiters have just waved their flags in here, and that I have this dream of the battle-grizzled consultants (like myself) helping out the newbies at risk whereever in the internet they may be, I hope I (and others) can post these few things. Think of it as the ex-cheerleader warning the new cheerleaders about the coach and the rides home from the parties. MJ At 04:58 PM 2/1/00 +0100, Eric Cholet wrote: Mark, modperl job offers have always been welcome on the modperl list. Please search the archives and you'll find this fact. Cheers, -- Eric At 10:11 AM 2/1/00 -0600, you wrote: Mark: I'd like to try to say something to make you feel better, but I know it's probably not possible. As recruiters, we, too, deal with other recruiting agencies and they are not always ethical. Just so you and others know, it is in the contractors best interest to work for an agency that is a member of the NACCB (National Association of Computer Consulting Businesses). Member agencies must meet and abide by certain standards. See the attached link. http://www.naccb.org/about/principles1.html http://www.naccb.org/about/principles1.html I'm not trying to sell anyone on Tech-Pro, but we are a member firm. I apologize if I've offended anyone with my posting. I will not contact anyone without their permission. I belong to a similar group at my home email address and I know sometimes minor issues can cause a lot of wasted time and grief. That was not my intent. That's why the reference indicated it was a job posting - if not interested, just delete it. Once again, I apologize if I've offended anyone. Bobbi Short Tech-Pro, Inc. 8041 Knue Road Indianapolis, IN 46250 Main: (317) 577-4840 Fax: (317) 845-0389 Toll Free: (877) 874-5627 Office locations in Indianapolis, Denver, the Twin Cities, and Phoenix email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tech-pro.com Tech-Pro, Inc. is member of the National Association of Computer Consulting Businesses (NACCB). hi, i'm not a recruiter, im hiring directly for the company i work for, which, by the way, has put a lot of time and support into helping with mod_perl development. josh Mark Jaaneston [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this a forum where recruiters can spam for new business? I am new here - is the any penalty for these guys? At the very least, I'd like to post references to anti-recruiter job sites. Guys, you can avoid these blood-sucking leeches and get contract and permanent work without having 30-60% of your earning potential stolen from you because they once happened to know somebody that you didn't. Yea, I hate recruiters. Got burned twice, the second by a company that swore up and down they were honest, and they were, for the first contract. Whoops... Sorry, I get a little upset about being raped twice. Do we discourage this type of spam? MJ. At 07:24 AM 2/1/00 -0600, Bobbi Short wrote: Hello. I am a Recruiter with Tech-Pro, Inc. Tech-Pro is a computer consulting services company with offices in Indianapolis, Indiana; Minneapolis, Minnesota; Denver, Colorado; and Phoenix, Arizona. We provide experienced computer professionals on a contract basis. Our consulting staff consists of salaried, hourly and independent contractors. We have immediate opportunities available for mod_perl architects in the Indianapolis area. Ideally, these are contract to hire opportunities with a very large, well known and respected national company.
Re: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, Mark Jaaneston wrote: My apologies to you, Josh, you are one of the good guys. Still, I don't know if it is appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be a forum for recruiting -- what's the consensus on this guys? Please, this has been discussed so many times before. If you're new check the archives. The consensus on this is not going to change. -- Matt/ Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases. Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.
Re: Using network appliance Filer with modperl
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:29:30AM +0100, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: At 11:16 1/31/00 -0800, siberian wrote: My question is : Has anyone experienced any 'gotchas' in putting perl code that modperl handlers use on a Network Attached file server like a network appliance box ( www.netapp.com )? I am assuming that there are no real issues but before i go blow a ton of cash on this thing I wanted to be sure that no one had found a problem. We have been using such a setup for over 2 years now. The only real issue we've found is not so much with mod_perl itself, but with MySQL. If you put your databases on the NetApp, either have a seperate central database server, or make damn sure you do not use the same database from two different front-end servers. We've seen database corruption that way (using Linux front-end servers with NFS 2). The default linux MySQL has --skip-locking enabled by default so having two database servers access the same database tables would be very bad regardless of where the files lived. With regards to fsck on large file systems: we've heard one horror stories about that as well (with Xs4all here in Amsterdam). I recall having read that they fixed the problem with the fsck taking very long on large file-systems with the latest OnTap release. That's good news. Thanks. Tim.
runaway httpd processes
I am running Apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21 and perl 5.04 on a UltraSparc5 running 2.5.1 Solaris. I am experiencing runaway httpd processes. We have tried to find a pattern in these processes but nothing seems to define the problem. They are coming from random sites, getting random content. They appear for a while and then pause for various intervals before reappearing. Truss shows the process to continuous lseeks and reads. There are no errors in the error_log. I have gone thought the archives and have seen some similar references. One mentioned a "leak in the Solaris libraries", but there was no following discussion of that issue. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks - Will Wiley Sr. Automation Engineer Wind River Systems, Platform Engineering Tel : +1(510)749-2476 Fax : +1(510)749-2010 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.windriver.com
PerlRequire problems
I just recompiled Apache with mod_perl support. I followed the directions, had no errors, and made no brain farts. The PerlRequire directive isn't valid! Any ideas? mod_perl version = 1.21 perl version = 5.00503 Apache version = 1.3.11 OS = Redhat Linux version 6.1 on P-150 w/ 48 MBytes RAM. The httpd executable is larger, and I moved it by hand to the /usr/local/apache/bin directory. How do I test to make sure that mod_perl is working right? 'make test' skipped a few tests, but all were successful. Thanks, Jon J. Horner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jjhorner.penguinpowered.com/ 2:05pm up 7 days, 5:43, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.11, 0.23
Re: Using network appliance Filer with modperl
At 11:25 1-2-2000 -0600, Leslie Mikesell wrote: According to Elizabeth Mattijsen: We have been using such a setup for over 2 years now. The only real issue we've found is not so much with mod_perl itself, but with MySQL. If you put your databases on the NetApp, either have a seperate central database server, or make damn sure you do not use the same database from two different front-end servers. We've seen database corruption that way (using Linux front-end servers with NFS 2). It is probably reasonable for MySQL to assume that only one server is accessing the files at once since it has its own remote client access protocol. Do you happen to know if there is a performance difference for MySQL between local drives and a NetApp? All MySQL operations are atomic. You can always be sure that no two threads will be updating a table at the same time, for example. If you need to work on multiple tables while making sure data stays consistent among them, lock these tables before use. A single MySQL server will have no problems running with its databases mounted on an NFS store, although performance probably won't be very good. It shouldn't hurt too much for huge tables that you don't access that heavily, but those that you do use frequently had better be kept on a local disk. Of course you can just make symlinks in your var directory to the tables that you've stored on an NFS store somewhere. Multiple MySQL servers running on the same database stored on an NFS store is not something you should try at all. Threaded locking is unreliable by itself on Solaris and Linux if I read the MySQL docs correctly, and NFS locking is worse than that. You'd absolutely need a thread-safe flock() implementation that works over NFS as well - good luck with your quest. :) When you do use locking, be very very careful if you use Apache::DBI or similar persistent connections. MySQL threads keep tables locked until the thread ends (connection is closed) or the tables are unlocked. If your session die()'s while tables are locked, they will stay neatly locked as your connection won't be closed either This was a nasty one I bumped in to ... Grtz, Pascal -- Pascal Eeftinck - arcade^planet.nl arcade^xs4all.nl - Perl is not a language, it's a way of life
$r-filename and Apache::RegistryBB...
Howdy. Here's the background: In my Transhandler, I'm setting the URI
and setting the filename for use. The filename is executed by
Apache::RegistryBB, code cached, etc Things run smoothly until I ask a
process for the file again things get ugly fast.
The error messages I'm getting are:
[Tue Feb 1 12:02:36 2000] [error] Can't upgrade that kind of scalar at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i686-linux-thread/Apache/RegistryBB.pm line 20.
Attempt to free unreferenced scalar.
[Tue Feb 1 12:02:30 2000] [notice] child pid 31687 exit signal Segmentation
fault (11)
Attempt to free unreferenced scalar at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i686-linux-thread/Apache/PerlRun.pm line 256.
The only commonality through out this is the filename. In my
transhandler I'm setting the filename and returning OK:
$r-filname('/www/docs/login' . $uri());
return(OK);
I'm pretty sure that's not the problem, but I could be wrong. I do
know that when I stop using Apache::RegistryBB and use plain old Registry,
things work with out a hitch, no segfaults in sight. Any thoughts/ideas?
perl, version 5.005_03 built for i686-linux-thread
Server version: Apache/1.3.11 (Unix)
Server built: Jan 25 2000 16:25:14
mod_perl, 1.21
--
Sean Chittenden p. 650.473.1805
auctia.com, Inc.f. 650.329.9651
Another problem with proxy code from Eagle book
I've got another problem with a module I'm developing that uses the proxy code from the Eagle book. Let's say a client requests http://w3.tivoli.com/foo/bar/. This gets proxied to http://w3.tivoli.com:81/foo/bar/ and works just fine. But, if they request http://w3.tivoli.com/foo/bar (no trailing slash) it gets proxied to http://w3.tivoli.com:81/foo/bar. The proxied page comes over just fine but there is an image on this page that is somethig like this IMG SRC="images/bar.gif". With the trailing slash this turns into a request for http://w3.tivoli.com/foo/bar/images/bar.gif which turns into http://w3.tivoli.com:81/foo/bar/images/bar.gif. The problem occurs when you don't have a trailing slash. The request ends up being http://w3.tivoli.com/foo/images/bar.gif. The bar directory gets dropped when there's not a trailing slash. Perhaps I don't have something configured right on the proxy server. DirectoryIndex or something? But I don't think DirectoryIndex would actually work because there are no documents in the server root of 80 so Apache wouldn't find an index.html anyway. --- Jason Bodnar + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Tivoli Systems I swear I'd forget my own head if it wasn't up my ass. -- Jason Bodnar
RE: PerlRequire problems
see http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#How_can_I_tell_whether_mod_perl_ this and other parts of the guide should be able to help you track down the error more... if not, then provide some details and we'll see what we can do... HTH --Geoff -Original Message- From: J. Horner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PerlRequire problems I just recompiled Apache with mod_perl support. I followed the directions, had no errors, and made no brain farts. The PerlRequire directive isn't valid! Any ideas? mod_perl version = 1.21 perl version = 5.00503 Apache version = 1.3.11 OS = Redhat Linux version 6.1 on P-150 w/ 48 MBytes RAM. The httpd executable is larger, and I moved it by hand to the /usr/local/apache/bin directory. How do I test to make sure that mod_perl is working right? 'make test' skipped a few tests, but all were successful. Thanks, Jon J. Horner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jjhorner.penguinpowered.com/ 2:05pm up 7 days, 5:43, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.11, 0.23
Re: PerlRequire problems
When you start your server, make sure the error log contains a line identifying itself as "Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21". Also, make sure you compiled with EVERYTHING=1 On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, J. Horner wrote: I just recompiled Apache with mod_perl support. I followed the directions, had no errors, and made no brain farts. The PerlRequire directive isn't valid! Any ideas? mod_perl version = 1.21 perl version = 5.00503 Apache version = 1.3.11 OS = Redhat Linux version 6.1 on P-150 w/ 48 MBytes RAM. The httpd executable is larger, and I moved it by hand to the /usr/local/apache/bin directory. How do I test to make sure that mod_perl is working right? 'make test' skipped a few tests, but all were successful. Thanks, Jon J. Horner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jjhorner.penguinpowered.com/ 2:05pm up 7 days, 5:43, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.11, 0.23 -- Matt/ Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases. Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.
Lingering processes --is it a mod_perl or Apache::session issue?
Hello, I have been using mod_perl with Apache::session... after doing development of a few cgi's I noticed that the apache server started spitting out "can't spawn another process" messages in the error log. When I stopped the apache server it listed about a million httpd processes that it said would not take a sigterm I am pretty sure I don't have any infinite loops, this are really basic scripts I am writting. I suspected it is some sort of deadlock with apache::sesssions (?). Has anyone else experienced this? Keith
Re: runaway httpd processes
Are you using apache:session? Keith - Original Message - From: Will Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:54 PM Subject: runaway httpd processes I am running Apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21 and perl 5.04 on a UltraSparc5 running 2.5.1 Solaris. I am experiencing runaway httpd processes. We have tried to find a pattern in these processes but nothing seems to define the problem. They are coming from random sites, getting random content. They appear for a while and then pause for various intervals before reappearing. Truss shows the process to continuous lseeks and reads. There are no errors in the error_log. I have gone thought the archives and have seen some similar references. One mentioned a "leak in the Solaris libraries", but there was no following discussion of that issue. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks - Will Wiley Sr. Automation Engineer Wind River Systems, Platform Engineering Tel : +1(510)749-2476 Fax : +1(510)749-2010 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.windriver.com
Re: Proxy example in eagle book does not work
On 19-Jan-00 Doug MacEachern wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Jason Bodnar wrote:
A line in the proxy example of the eagle book on page 380 does not seem to
work
(entirely):
The line:
$r-headers_in-do(sub {$request-header(@_);});
what if you change that to:
$r-headers_in-do(sub {$request-header(@_); 1});
?
That sets all the headers including Connection which is a problem if it's
Keep-Alive. It probably needs to be something like:
$r-headers_in-do(sub {return 1 if $_[0] eq 'Connection';
$request-header(@_); 1});
---
Jason Bodnar + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Tivoli Systems
That boy wouldn't know the difference between the Internet and a hair net. --
Jason Bodnar
Re: JOB OPENINGS -- INDIANAPOLIS
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Mark Jaaneston wrote: Still, I don't know if it is appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be a forum for recruiting -- what's the consensus on this guys? Although new to the list, my experience with recruiters is that they aren't worth the space they occupy. E-mail lists are cheap: anybody can easily create a modperl-jobs mailing list. Those who want to read such things can subscribe to it; those who don't won't have to wade through such crap. - Paul
RE: www.modperl.com
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Baiju Thakkar wrote: How about putting Chapter 3,4, and 5 online. I own one copy and its usually at work. Sometime when I am at home I wish I had another copy. That's an easily solvable problem: buy another copy. Unless you're severly underpaid as a programmer, you can afford it. - Paul
Re: runaway httpd processes
Keith Kwiatek wrote: Are you using apache:session? The blame-everything-on-apache::session business is getting a bit tired. Go back to your workstation and take another look at the code. I'm sure you are leaking sessions somehwere. There are a large number of happy, silent Apache::Session users. -jwb
RE: mod_perl installed as DSO
Unfortunately I am running Solaris 2.6 the suggested directive doesn't work ( I got a core dump for Segmentation Fault), Is there anybody can answer the error [error] Cannot remove module mod_perl.c: not found in module list What module list it's talking about "Wang, Pin-Chieh" wrote: Hi I am trying to install mod_perl-1.21 with Apache1.3.11, I am following the procedure in the book (at least I thought I was following), everything looks fine, but when I restarted httpd I got the following error message from errror_log [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [error] Cannot remove module mod_perl.c: not found in module list [Tue Feb 1 10:57:28 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 configured -- resuming normal operations Is there any one can tell me how to get rid of the error message "Cannot remove module mod_perl.c" ? My makepl_args.mod_perl has the following contents APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.11/src DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 \ ADD_MODULE=log_referer,rewrite,proxy,so,vhost_alias,mime_magic,expires \ APACHE_PREFIX=/usr/local/apache_dso \ PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 Thanks, PC Wang this is how i compiled apache and modperl on redhat 6.1 hope this helps for modperl 1.21 perl Makefile.PL USE_APXS=1 USE_DSO=1 WITH_APXS=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs EVERYTHING=1 make make install for apache 1.3.9 ./configure --enable-rule=shared_core --with-perl=/usr/bin/perl --enable-module=so --enable-module=rewrite the version of perl on here is This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-linux
Newbie Question
Hi all, I hope you guys will forgive this question, but I am a complete beginner with CGI etc. We run an NT Server using Apache Web Server and I want to run Perl scripts on our web site to handle our administration forms. I loaded the Activeperl software onto the server, but it still doesn't run perl scripts. I have read heaps of stuff (most confusing) I have made changes to the httpd.conf file as outlined in some documents I read but then the service won't restart. I read a lot about the MOD-PERL but very little about what it is and how it works, is this my problem? Is anyone willing to tell me in SIMPLE terms what i have to do to get this thing working? I think you all for any help you can provide. And again I apologise for bringing such a lame question to the list. Thanks again Ian * Ian Ollier - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Queensland Centre for Schizophrenia Research Wolston Park Hospital, Wolston Park Road Wacol QLD 4076 AUSTRALIA ph: +61 7 3271 8592 fax: +61 7 3271 8567 mobile: 0411145593 website: http://www.qcsr.uq.edu.au Any opinions herein are my own and do not necessarily reflect my employer's views. *
Re: Newbie Question
Hi Ian, We run an NT Server using Apache Web Server and I want to run Perl scripts on our web site to handle our administration forms. To get full advantage out of mod_perl, it is more interesting to use it on UNIX machines. But, in this community, we will encourage you to use mod_perl even if you are determined to use NT. I loaded the Activeperl software onto the server With the ActivePerl distribution, you can run Perl scripts in plain CGI mode, but you cannot use mod_perl. but then the service won't restart. You should provide a complete technical description of your problem. I read a lot about the MOD-PERL but very little about what it is and how it works, is this my problem? Yes. You should start by reading http://perl.apache.org/guide. Take your time to read this document carefully. Is anyone willing to tell me in SIMPLE terms what i have to do to get this thing working? You should understand that mod_perl is a bridge between Perl and Apache, which, apart from its technical excellence, allows Perl programmers to use their Perl culture while configuring and programming their Web applications not only at the application level (the script itself) but also at the system level (the server, i.e. Apache). Whether you use mod_perl or not, programming a Web application requires understanding how the Web works and how http servers work. Reading http://perl.apache.org/guide will attract your attention to mod_perl's major ambitions. Try to define what your application's ambition first of all, then look for corresponding guidelines in that document. Victor.
Caucho faster than mod_perl?
Hey. This is kind of relevant regarding the latest hello benchmarks that were released. I was sent this today and thought it would be of some interest to you guys, or at least those interested in benchmarks. http://www.caucho.com/articles/benchmark.html Supposedly, according to its benchmarks, it's faster than mod_perl... impressive to say the least. Any chance someone has any experience with this or would like to benchmark this technology? External validation would be pretty useful. --SC -- Sean Chittenden
Re: ASP Application variable; StatINCMatch variable
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Joshua,
I am using an Application variable in my application. It is initialized when a user
session starts as:
$SID = $Session-SessionID;
$Application-{$SID} = "somevalue";
When a user's session times out, I try using this application variable ... the key
is right but I cannot get any value out of the Application hash. I am using:
$SID = $Session-SessionID;
$Application-{$SID} ;
to retrieve the value.
In my httpd.conf, i have set the AllowApplicationState to "1" in the .htm file
handler. AllowSessionState is also set to "1".
This all should work just fine. Have you tried setting SessionTimeout real
low, like .1, and then doing a $Response-Debug($Application) in your
Session_OnEnd just to see what data is in there ? Also try putting a
"use strict" in your global.asa, or if you are using a dev v.18, try the
UseStrict setting, which may help uncover an error in your code.
If you can't get this to work, show me the debug output with Debug set
to -2 from the first write of the application till the Session_OnEnd
in particular. You will need to put in $Response-Debug() statements
at various places to show what data $Application holds at various points.
Another confusion I have is with the StatINCMatch variable. Can I use this variable
to reload modules in a particular directory ... not reload all the modules with
PerlSetVar StatINCMatch Provillage/*
(where Provillage dir is in the perl directory path and contains the modules that I
would like reloaded)
Yes, that's how its use is intended.
-- Joshua
_
Joshua Chamas Chamas Enterprises Inc.
NodeWorks free web link monitoring Huntington Beach, CA USA
http://www.nodeworks.com1-714-625-4051
Re: Caucho faster than mod_perl?
Sean Chittenden wrote: Hey. This is kind of relevant regarding the latest hello benchmarks that were released. I was sent this today and thought it would be of some interest to you guys, or at least those interested in benchmarks. http://www.caucho.com/articles/benchmark.html Supposedly, according to its benchmarks, it's faster than mod_perl... impressive to say the least. Any chance someone has any experience with this or would like to benchmark this technology? External validation would be pretty useful. --SC -- Sean Chittenden I'll be benchmarking it on WinNT, which should give a good relative value to the mod_perl environments I've tested. Note that in the "hello world" benchmarks at http://www.chamas.com/bench/hello_bysystem.html Scott from Caucho only benchmarked Registry scripts, but didn't do the native mod_perl handler test, which runs significantly faster, anywhere from 50% to 100% faster on Linux from what I can tell, which would put it right next to Resin's JSP Java for HelloWorld. It would be great if someone with a Linux box could do both a modperl handler a resin jsp. If Chip, Kimbro, or Dirk submitted the bench, that would be great!, since they already done a few on their Linux boxes to readily compare against. -- Joshua _ Joshua Chamas Chamas Enterprises Inc. NodeWorks free web link monitoring Huntington Beach, CA USA http://www.nodeworks.com1-714-625-4051
Re: Caucho faster than mod_perl?
Sean Chittenden wrote:
http://www.caucho.com/articles/benchmark.html
Supposedly, according to its benchmarks, it's faster than mod_perl...
impressive to say the least. Any chance someone has any experience
with this or would like to benchmark this technology? External validation
would be pretty useful.
It is not faster than mod_perl. We tested it and found that the Resin
author used code that didn't take good advantage of mod_perl, i.e.
Apache::Registry scripts rather than PerlHandler modules. We sent our
results and code to Caucho, and received a cordial reply, but they have
not updated their page. The following is an excerpt from the message one
of our engineers sent to them:
I've recently been testing Resin 1.1b4's performance compared with
mod_perl. The "benchmark.jar" from your web site included perl scripts
that really didn't take full advantage of the capabilities that mod_perl
offers. So, I wrote three perl modules that attempt to be similar to
examples included in the Resin 1.1b4 distribution and better reflect
what mod_perl can do.
Attached is a gzipped tar file with these perl modules, and you're free
to do whatever you want with them.
Overall, I've found Resin to be a very good product, yet ran into a few
problems during testing. These may be caused by the IBM 1.1.8 JDK rather
than the Resin package itself. For example when running Resin as a
stand-alone httpd server, then using "httperf" to benchmark it, the
entire JVM would freeze up when the --close-with-reset option was given
to httperf.
The JVM used in testing is IBM 1.1.8, on Red Hat Linux 6.0, 2x500MHz
Pentium III, 512MB RAM, Oracle 8.0.5 client libraries (JDBC). Apache
1.3.9 with DSO support was used for "Resin+Apache", with 60 max clients.
A recent version of mod_perl and Apache (without DSO) was used for the
"mod_perl+Apache" tests, also with 60 max clients. Finally, "Resin
httpd" is Resin running its own web server, with max threads set to 60.
These tests used httperf with persistent connections, making either
1000 or 100 requests per connection, depending on the test. The results
on "hello" are astounding:
Test: "hello" -- displays "Hello, World"
Size: 450 bytes
httperf: 40 concurrent connections, 1000 requests/connection
Results:
mod_perl+Apache: 1600 req/sec
Resin+Apache: 500 req/sec
Resin httpd: 4600 req/sec
Test: "bighello" -- lots of HTML + "Hello World"
Size: 23888 bytes
httperf: 40 concurrent connections, 100 requests/connection
Results:
mod_perl+Apache: 480 req/sec
Resin+Apache: 300 req/sec
Resin httpd: 280 req/sec
Test: "database" -- query: "select NAME from DIVISION", returns 11
rows
Size: 460 bytes
httperf: 40 concurrent connections, 100 requests/connection
Results:
mod_perl+Apache: 570 req/sec
Resin+Apache: 300 req/sec
Resin httpd: 450 req/sec
So, although "Resin httpd" performs very well with many small transfers
("hello"), the performance relative to mod_perl appears to degrade with
larger transfers ("bighello"). The database performance improved nicely
from where it was under Resin+Apache, but mod_perl still has the edge
there.
I also tested the "file.jsp", which I renamed "fortune" in the perl
tests. With http_load, the results again show mod_perl ahead:
Resin:
1584 fetches, 10 max parallel, 489610 bytes, in 10 seconds
309.097 mean bytes/connection
158.4 fetches/sec, 48961 bytes/sec
mod_perl:
6190 fetches, 10 max parallel, 1.98814e+06 bytes, in 10 seconds
321.186 mean bytes/connection
619 fetches/sec, 198814 bytes/sec
I'm not trying to belittle Resin in any way -- in fact I'm impressed by
both its design and performance. In learning about Resin during these
tests, I found that JSP is in many ways easier to use than mod_perl. The
smart caching that Resin does (with compiling .java - .class, etc.) is
effective, and the XML configuration is a joy to deal with compared to
Apache's httpd.conf.
So, it's nice, but not as fast as mod_perl on Linux. If anyone wants to
try this on another OS, I can supply a tar of the files we used for
testing.
- Perrin
Re: mod_perl installed as DSO
So, you are saying that this doesn't work either:
#!/bin/sh
# A script stolen from ...
# Jeff Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# ... go figure! :)
tar xvf modperl*.tar
tar xvf apache*.tar
cd ../modperl
perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache-1.3/src DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1
PREP_HTTPD=1 EVERYTHING=1
make
cd ../apache-1.3
../configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache --enable-module=all
--enable-shared=max \
--activate-module=src/modules/perl/libperl.a
exit
Then, as root, in modperl do a make install,
then in apache, do a make install...
I am on Solaris 2.6 and running
Apache/1.3.12-dev (Unix) mod_perl/1.21_01-dev...
HTH, -Sneex-
Bill Jones * Systems Programmer * http://www.fccj.org/cgi/mail?sneex
(' Running -
//\ Perl, Apache, MySQL, PHP3,
v_/_ Ultra 10, LinuxPPC, BeOS...
From: "Wang, Pin-Chieh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:01:59 -0600
To: "'Clay'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug MacEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mod_perl installed as DSO
Unfortunately I am running Solaris 2.6 the suggested directive doesn't work
( I got a core dump for Segmentation Fault), Is there anybody can answer the
error
[error] Cannot remove module mod_perl.c: not found in module list
What module list it's talking about
snipped
for modperl 1.21
perl Makefile.PL USE_APXS=1 USE_DSO=1
WITH_APXS=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs
EVERYTHING=1
make
make install
for apache 1.3.9
./configure --enable-rule=shared_core
--with-perl=/usr/bin/perl
--enable-module=so --enable-module=rewrite
Re: Caucho faster than mod_perl?
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Sean Chittenden wrote: Hey. This is kind of relevant regarding the latest hello benchmarks that were released. I was sent this today and thought it would be of some interest to you guys, or at least those interested in benchmarks. http://www.caucho.com/articles/benchmark.html the "loop" test indicates that they're not really knowing what they're doing with the mod_perl side of things. a loop should not get slower like that, so it's probably because they have some thing that prints (which turns into r-print if I remember correctly) a zillion lines. (other peoples) benchmarks sucks. Use the tool that serves you best. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/ more than 60M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: Problems with custom config directives in user written modules
Eric Cholet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perl
require Apache::TestDirective;
delete $INC{'Apache/TestDirective.pm'};
/Perl
#PerlModule Apache::TestDirective
Why are you using 'require', and not the PerlModule line you commented
out?
It appeared to work. =)
In searching the mail archives I found reference to this problem
before. The above was provided by Doug.
Neither method actually works.
--
Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The opinions expressed above are entirely my own
Better the demon that makes you improve than the angel who threatens.
Re: runaway httpd processes
We have found the problem. It was not Apache::Session. It was our own module for tracking authenticated users that was maintaining some session information. There was this bad piece of code that was not doing file locking correctly in a particular wierd state. Bad Code...bad code. Thanks At 02:01 PM 2/1/00 -0800, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: Keith Kwiatek wrote: Are you using apache:session? The blame-everything-on-apache::session business is getting a bit tired. Go back to your workstation and take another look at the code. I'm sure you are leaking sessions somehwere. There are a large number of happy, silent Apache::Session users. -jwb - Will Wiley Sr. Automation Engineer Wind River Systems, Platform Engineering Tel : +1(510)749-2476 Fax : +1(510)749-2010 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.windriver.com
ASP Application variable; StatINCMatch variable
Hi Joshua,
I am using an Application variable in my application. It is initialized when a user
session starts as:
$SID = $Session-SessionID;
$Application-{$SID} = "somevalue";
When a user's session times out, I try using this application variable ... the key is
right but I cannot get any value out of the Application hash. I am using:
$SID = $Session-SessionID;
$Application-{$SID} ;
to retrieve the value.
In my httpd.conf, i have set the AllowApplicationState to "1" in the .htm file
handler. AllowSessionState is also set to "1".
Another confusion I have is with the StatINCMatch variable. Can I use this variable to
reload modules in a particular directory ... not reload all the modules with
PerlSetVar StatINCMatch Provillage/*
(where Provillage dir is in the perl directory path and contains the modules that I
would like reloaded)
Thanks,
Ritu
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As long as we're at it...
As long as we're on the job thread: Boston.com is looking to hire another programmer, preferably one with modperl experience, but we're extremely willing to hire someone who's just a good, solid web programmer, with an interest in learning about apache and modperl. Requirements are a strong knowledge of perl and a desire explore new ways to use it to help drive site traffic. We'd be willing to hire someone on a contract basis, but would prefer a fulltime employee. Database background would be nice. Other stuff: We're in Boston, MA (USA) near the Children's Museum, about 3 blocks from South Station. A good, young, fun group of people, who are committed to writing clean, fast code. (You'll be hard pressed to find stuff without 'use strict' here...) We're all Unix, all the time (Solaris, Linux), so please, MSCE me no MSCEs. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Steve -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My God! What have I done? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Steve Reppucci 617/929-7003 Director of Software Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston.com (Times Company Digital) Be Open
Re: Caucho faster than mod_perl?
Sean Chittenden wrote:
http://www.caucho.com/articles/benchmark.html
Supposedly, according to its benchmarks, it's faster than mod_perl...
impressive to say the least. Any chance someone has any experience with this
or would like to benchmark this technology? External validation would be
pretty useful. --SC
It is not faster than mod_perl. We tested it and found that the Resin
author used code that didn't take good advantage of mod_perl, i.e.
Apache::Registry scripts rather than PerlHandler modules. We sent our
results and code to Caucho, and received a cordial reply, but they have
not updated their page. The following is an excerpt from the message
one of our engineers sent to them:
I've recently been testing Resin 1.1b4's performance compared with
mod_perl. The "benchmark.jar" from your web site included perl scripts that
really didn't take full advantage of the capabilities that mod_perl offers.
So, I wrote three perl modules that attempt to be similar to examples
included in the Resin 1.1b4 distribution and better reflect what mod_perl
can do.
Attached is a gzipped tar file with these perl modules, and you're free to
do whatever you want with them.
Overall, I've found Resin to be a very good product, yet ran into a few
problems during testing. These may be caused by the IBM 1.1.8 JDK rather
than the Resin package itself. For example when running Resin as a
stand-alone httpd server, then using "httperf" to benchmark it, the entire
JVM would freeze up when the --close-with-reset option was given to
httperf.
The JVM used in testing is IBM 1.1.8, on Red Hat Linux 6.0, 2x500MHz
Pentium III, 512MB RAM, Oracle 8.0.5 client libraries (JDBC). Apache 1.3.9
with DSO support was used for "Resin+Apache", with 60 max clients. A recent
version of mod_perl and Apache (without DSO) was used for the
"mod_perl+Apache" tests, also with 60 max clients. Finally, "Resin httpd"
is Resin running its own web server, with max threads set to 60.
These tests used httperf with persistent connections, making either 1000
or 100 requests per connection, depending on the test. The results on
"hello" are astounding:
Test: "hello" -- displays "Hello, World"
Size: 450 bytes
httperf: 40 concurrent connections, 1000 requests/connection
Results:
mod_perl+Apache: 1600 req/sec
Resin+Apache: 500 req/sec
Resin httpd: 4600 req/sec
Test: "bighello" -- lots of HTML + "Hello World"
Size: 23888 bytes
httperf: 40 concurrent connections, 100 requests/connection
Results:
mod_perl+Apache: 480 req/sec
Resin+Apache:300 req/sec
Resin httpd: 280 req/sec
Test: "database" -- query: "select NAME from DIVISION", returns 11 rows
Size: 460 bytes
httperf: 40 concurrent connections, 100 requests/connection
Results:
mod_perl+Apache: 570 req/sec
Resin+Apache:300 req/sec
Resin httpd: 450 req/sec
So, although "Resin httpd" performs very well with many small transfers
("hello"), the performance relative to mod_perl appears to degrade with
larger transfers ("bighello"). The database performance improved nicely
from where it was under Resin+Apache, but mod_perl still has the edge
there.
I also tested the "file.jsp", which I renamed "fortune" in the perl tests.
With http_load, the results again show mod_perl ahead:
Resin:
1584 fetches, 10 max parallel, 489610 bytes, in 10 seconds
309.097 mean bytes/connection
158.4 fetches/sec, 48961 bytes/sec
mod_perl:
6190 fetches, 10 max parallel, 1.98814e+06 bytes, in 10 seconds
321.186 mean bytes/connection
619 fetches/sec, 198814 bytes/sec
I'm not trying to belittle Resin in any way -- in fact I'm impressed by
both its design and performance. In learning about Resin during these
tests, I found that JSP is in many ways easier to use than mod_perl. The
smart caching that Resin does (with compiling .java - .class, etc.) is
effective, and the XML configuration is a joy to deal with compared to
Apache's httpd.conf.
So, it's nice, but not as fast as mod_perl on Linux. If anyone wants to
try this on another OS, I can supply a tar of the files we used for
testing.
- Perrin
Newbie Question
Thanks for your responses so far, I know I have a lot of reading to do but I just thought I would add this to my first post. After loading Activeperl I changed the httpd.conf file by adding the following: Alias /perl/ c:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache/cgi-bin Location /perl SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI /Location PerlModule Apache::Registry PerlModule CGI PerlSendHeader On It was after adding this that the service refused to restart. I will obviously have to read a whole lot more before this is going to work. The annoying thing is that I just want to run a script to handle forms seems like a hell of a lot of effort for such a simple request :) Thanks all Ian * Ian Ollier - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Queensland Centre for Schizophrenia Research Wolston Park Hospital, Wolston Park Road Wacol QLD 4076 AUSTRALIA ph: +61 7 3271 8592 fax: +61 7 3271 8567 mobile: 0411145593 website: http://www.qcsr.uq.edu.au Any opinions herein are my own and do not necessarily reflect my employer's views. *
Re: As long as we're at it...
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Steve Reppucci wrote: As long as we're on the job thread: Will you guys indicate in your ads whether you take app. from OUTSIDE USA, please? Who knows if you can't get someone like Doug who's a Kiwi? :-) Jie
Re: runaway httpd processes
There are a large number of happy, silent Apache::Session users. Yes, I am a silent and happy Apache::Session user. You're right Jeffrey, happy users should not be silent. So I confirm that my site www.jazzvalley.com, still a start-up but already serving about 5,000 dynamic requests per day, uses Apache::Session to get behind-the-cookie data on **every single request** landing on my site. Million thanks for having made it possible. Victor.
Re: runaway httpd processes
There are a large number of happy, silent Apache::Session users. Yes, I am a silent and happy Apache::Session user. You're right Jeffrey, happy users should not be silent. Ditto that. Have Apache::Session serving content for a dynamic chat page. It gets hit every 30 - 45 sec by every user in the chat room -- thousands of hits an hour. It's been running for months without a shutdown or reboot.
perl.apache.org AWOL?
ObModPerl: I don't seem to have a route to perl.apache.org. Isn't this just a virtual host on www.apache.org? Off Topic: Any reason I can't use /etc/passwd with mod_auth? I'll take my answers off the list, thanks. -jwb
