Re: [MOSAIC] Wonders

2013-09-24 Thread Terry
We are having the EXACT same issues with our new Journeys program!  wow!
 Same story...different program.

Terry


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Krista Sadlers wrote:

> I'd love to hear how other districts are using this curriculum. This is our
> first time using it and our teachers are having a very hard time fitting it
> all in. What do your LA schedules look like?
>
>
>
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> From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of
> Michelle Gips
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Subject: [MOSAIC] Wonders
>
> I would agree that it is inclusive and teaches lots of skills that kids
> need
> and do not otherwise receive.  My concern is vast amount of materials and
> how difficult it is to locate everything and know that everyone is using it
> correctly. We have had reading series in the past, but I am not sure that
> the teachers had to do this much hands on teaching with it.  WE did not
> have
> a very good Wonders training and would love to know how people find the
> organization and what "suggestions" they have for locating everything since
> some is in our hands and the rest is accessible on line.
> MIchelle Gips
> Reading Specialist
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Re: [MOSAIC] Help Designing Writing Curriculum

2013-09-15 Thread Terry
Have you read any of Jeff Anderson's books?  Everyday Editing and
Mechanically Inclined.  Excellent resources for writing and grammar.  have
fun.  Sounds like a great opportunity to really put together some good
stuff!  ;)

Terry


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 6:29 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Hello Fellow Lovers of Literacy!
> I have been given a wonderful opportunity to design a K-12 Writing
> Curriculum (aligned with CCSS/PARCC) for a small, rural school district in
> AZ.  Our
> goal is to design a curriculum that truly allows students to graduate high
> school with the skills to be successful in both college and the work place.
>  We want to create a backwards  design…with college and career skills
> driving the instruction down to  kindergarten. There is really nothing in
> this
> district and little to no  money.  I’m very excited about this
>  opportunity.
> I know I can’t do this  alone and I’m hoping you’ll be willing to give me
> any advice, suggestions,  ideas, etc. you may have.  Here are  a few of my
> initial questions:
> 1.  Do you have  suggestions on how to put together a successful cadre of
> teachers?
> 2. What does a cadre “design” look like that is productive and  inclusive?
> 3.  What types of “PD”  do you feel are engaging designs?  (For example:
> meeting with teachers once a month with follow ups and  continual training
> throughout the year).
> 4. Curriculum design itself:  Essential skills?  Scaffolded
> ideas/curriculum?  Resources?
> I’m sure I will have many more questions as I engrain myself in  this
> project.  Thank you in advance  for all of your suggestions and ideas!!
> Ali Conant, Ed.D
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Re: [MOSAIC] rigorous texts for teaching unit

2013-07-04 Thread Terry Decker
Chris VanAllsburg's Two Bad Ants is great kinder fare for picture inference.

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Renee Goularte  wrote:

> Yes, Jennifer, I was thinking the same. And I am concerned that fabulous 
> picture books will be left behind in favor of more "novels" and 
> "informational text" (due to misconceptions in the whole common core 
> brouhaha). As an artist, I know that certain children's books have 
> illustrations that greately enhance the content and context of the book.
> 
> For example, for Kindergartners, I would say start with Elmer by David McKee 
> and REALLY LOOK at the illustrations. There's some real potential there for 
> critical thinking, inferencing, and discussions about empathy.
> 
> Renee
> 
> 
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Palmer, Jennifer wrote:
> 
>> I was going to ask about rigor too--- it means different things to different 
>> people. I'm concerned that some folks think rigor means harder reading 
>> levels... When really rigor is more about the instruction requiring kids to 
>> think!! I worry that too many kids won't get practice at their instructional 
>> reading levels--- a huge problem and a potential pitfall of Common Core
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:48 AM, "Renee Goularte"  wrote:
>> 
>>> The Other Side is an excellent book.
>>> 
>>> I am wondering, though, what you mean by "rigorous text"? What is it 
>>> exactly that you are looking for?
>>> 
>>> Renee
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Ginny Osewalt wrote:
>>> 
 The Other Side by J. Woodson
 
 Clover's mom says it isn't safe to cross the fence that segregates their 
 African-American side of town from the white side where Anna lives. But 
 the two girls strike up a friendship, and get around the grown-ups' rules 
 by sitting on top of the fence together.
 
 On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Jeanne Canon  wrote:
 
> Greetings All,
> I am looking for some rigorous texts for the theme "Unlikely 
> Friendships."  I teach ESL grades 2 through 5.  So far I have been just 
> targeting second and third grade, but any books on this topic for up to 
> grade 5 (fiction or expository texts, poetry too) would be greatly 
> appreciated.  I value your input.  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> "A public education system is based on the principle that you care whether 
>>> the kid down the street gets an education."  ~ Noam Chomsky
>>> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Informal Reading Inventories

2012-07-12 Thread Terry Decker
We use the QRI5 because it's inexpensive and has a good variety of passages for 
each level.  Some of our district schools favor DRA2 or Fount as Pin ell for 
more gradients within levels.  I do find it necessary to use the CORE Reading 
Assessments for specific skkill diagnosis, but that's not usually nèeded for 
group placement.  It just depends upon the reason for testing for choosing a 
test.

Nicole Power  wrote:

>I have the CRI 2 and the QRI 4.  I like the passages and the questions in the 
>CRI much better than the QRI; however, I found the scoring instructions vague, 
>unclear, and generally difficult to follow. I would like to see the scoring 
>all in one section with clear guidelines.  The CD that came with it was an 
>example of administration. I wish they would have put the PDF versions of the 
>teacher copy on the CD so I wouldn't have to copy them from the spiral.  If 
>they could revise the CRI to make the scoring easier to follow with a PDF on 
>CD, I would choose this every time.
>
>Nicole
>
>Sent from my iPad
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>On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:25 PM, "Meredith Glasser"  
>wrote:
>
>> Cara,
>> Look at the Critical Reading Inventory (CRI). Dr. Harris had us administer
>> it to student for reading diagnosis. I found that I liked the CRI better
>> then other reading inventories.
>> 
>> Meredith
>> On Jul 11, 2012 10:56 AM, "Cara Acosta"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I know there has been some discussion about this in the past,
>>> but what do you think is the best informal reading inventory out there?  I
>>> have used QRI in the past and find it pretty effective at leveling
>>> students.  However, if I want more skill specific data, are there any
>>> options?
>>> 
>>> Someone mentioned Burns and Roe?  Can anyone here attest to the efficacy of
>>> that inventory?
>>> 
>>> Please discuss!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your input!
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Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Comp and ADHD

2012-07-03 Thread Terry Decker
I can't help but wonder if the problem might also be the ability to visualize, 
which exacerbates the ADHD.  You can check by handing her a simple picture (or 
choice of a few) a common noun, then have her verbalize to you exactly what she 
sees so you can "see" it too.  Make sure, by your asking questions if need be, 
to get the what, where, mood, perspective, , color, size,...everything until 
you can get the idea of what she knows.  It's amazing!  I have worked with some 
children this last year who couldn't describe a hammock within 5 minutes or 
describe a picture--but they could decode fine.  Needless to say, their 
comprehension was abysmal.  I attended a Lindamood Bell training on Visualizing 
and Verbalizing, which REALLY helps!    Good luck!
Terry
--- On Mon, 7/2/12, mrsjro...@aol.com  wrote:

From: mrsjro...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Comp and ADHD
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Monday, July 2, 2012, 2:57 PM

Does she like to draw? You can really get a good grasp of her comprehension 
 if she draws her answers for questions relating to setting, plot, 
characters,  making predictions and connections. I have used drawing frequently 
for 
even the  most severe ADHD students.
 
June
 
 
In a message dated 7/2/2012 2:48:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
meghan.for...@gmail.com writes:

Hi  Mena,

I'll ask her to tell me what she's good at - she's not shy about  that!
I hadn't thought about kinesthetic, but that's probably better than  my
favorite reading on the comfy couch method. As we read, I was  stopping
and talking about what was going on in the book, asking  questions
designed to get her to make t-t or t-s connections, asking  questions.
Interestingly, she told me about her cousin who is dyslexic like  Percy
Jackson, but made no mention of ADHD or  herself.

Thanks!
Meghan

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Mena   wrote:
> Hi Meghan, I would use as many  kinesthetic (VAKT...hmm maybe even use 
realia) and aesthetic activities  (reader response, t-t, t-s,t-w connections) 
as possible to provide context and  activate or create prior knowledge as 
possible to motivate the reader. Many  students who struggle with reading 
excellent in other areas like artistic  skills...try to find what the student 
is 
good at:) If it is art have the  student use sketch -to-stretch. I think 
that like ELL learners student with  ADHD need as much context as possible. 
From,  Mena
>
>
>
>
> Philomena Marinaccio-Eckel,  Ph.D.
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> College of Education
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>
>
> -Original  Message-
> From: Meghan Formel  
> To: mosaic  
> Sent: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 10:22  am
> Subject: [MOSAIC] Reading Comp and ADHD
>
>
>  Good Morning! I'm tutoring an incoming 4th grader this summer, with a
>  primary focus on teaching reading comprehension skills (Mosaic). We're
>  reading Book 1 of The Lightning Thief (an option for her school's
>  summer reading.) The student has been diagnosed with ADHD and seems to
>  be predominantly inattentive. I'm using techniques like keep
>  information down to essentials, taking frequent breaks and
>  comprehension checks while reading, asking her to repeat back
>  instructions, positive reinforcement, redirection, and visual  aids.
>
> I'm a new teacher, and I'm very interested in hearing  what other
> teachers' experiences have been in reading comprehension  with this
> population of learners. What worked? What didn't  work?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs

2012-06-14 Thread Terry Decker
Linda,    I don't get to use much volunteer help in my Title 1 setting--time 
frames are sticky.  I did use them much as you suggest when I taught a regular 
classroom.  We do train "educated" volunteers to work in our after-school 
reading intervention program.  There is always good reason for caring adults to 
be involved with kids--hence the rationale for SMART reading.  It certainly 
doesn't replace explicit instruction, but it does help.  Our after-school 
volunteers are trained to work with children as you've outlined, plus we taught 
them a system for working with vocabulary and questioning for comprehension.    
 Thanks for the volunteer angle, which does really help students who come from 
homes where parents don't read with them. 
Terry
--- On Thu, 6/14/12, Linda Rightmire  wrote:

From: Linda Rightmire 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 5:44 PM

Terry,

I leave in your full comments on EAs. Great suggestions especially with the
amount of back and forth interaction you have detailed. Interesting comment
re Allington -- also a longtime favorite of mine -- that he disagrees with
EAs for assisting weaker students. I know one of his major points is expert
help for those kids.

However, I feel a "live, warm body" is better than a computer (that
responds with whatever ding or boink when you're right or wrong ;/  ). I
speak of using volunteers. I recruited volunteers very selectively -- not
from the general parent population per se, but often from my educated
friends (including retirees). (My husband will regularly find me at a
gathering chatting up a friend -- turns out we're discussing whether I can
rope them in to help one half hour a week.) No they are not trained
specifically at length -- but I did train them and give them ongoing
feedback.

I have had this argument with other university personnel, and I think those
kids need *both* (obviously, I'd say). They need my expertise, but they
also need a lot of oral reading practice at a suitable level (in
self-chosen material, another Allington 'pillar' of reading instruction)
 -- practise reading with a friendly adult who has a bit of training. You
can train as to 'pause-prompt-praise' (just one simple approach people can
remember, not my invention). For example, it is common for adults to think
they must instantly say, "no", and interrupt "that second". Reading
Recovery taught us to use -- *after* the paragraph or whatever --  "Let's
look at that, there's a tricky bit here," and "You said 
-- what would we expect it to look like [or sound like] if it was
?"

In more substantial material (or with very struggling students) I would
also encourage the adult to "take a turn" -- read for a page or two, just
to improve comprehension, establish some of the vocabulary, share
enjoyment, etc.

And so on. Great stuff, thanks, Terry.

Linda Rightmire
SD #73 Kamloops, BC



On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Terry Decker wrote:

> Hi Cathy,    I'm sorry I'm so slow getting a response to you.  Life's been
> very hectic, as you know from the teaching at the end of the year
> perspective.
>    As for supervising EAs, I've found it to be one of the most rewarding
> parts of my job as our school's Title 1 teacher/Literacy Specialist &
> supervisor.  There are a few things that I think have helped our team to be
> successful, and I hope this is what you're wanting.  If not, maybe this
> will trigger specific questions I can answer.  1) Hire the right EA.  If
> you have input on personnel, I'd opt for experience as much as possible.  I
> have 3 retired teachers on my team, and they're wonderful.  They have the
> background, the "teacher work ethic," and the love of children.  I also
> have 2 EAs who have worked in Title for many years and one certified
> teacher (secondary math--but still a teacher) who just wanted part-time
> because of family...It helps when your EAs don't have to learn the ropes
> from the ground up. 2)  Take time to train your EAs on exactly which
> programs, progress monitoring tools, and routines you want to use.  Make
> sure he/she
>  can use materials with fidelity. 3)   Find a way (and this is a hard one
> for me, but I found it helps a lot ) to do regular mini-observations on
> your EA to support her/him and for your peace of mind that the students are
> getting what they need.  This will also help support the EA and give you
> the opportunity to answer specific questions about practice.  This is
> particularly important if your EA has no prior teaching background.  4)
>  Meet weekly to go over the data he/she has collected on students.  You
> sh

Re: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs

2012-06-14 Thread Terry Decker
Hi Cathy,    The thing that made doing observations easy and non-threatening 
for both my EAs and me was using the basic lesson plan I'd taught them to use 
as the format for observation.  I also made sure to find several things to 
praise first, and then would ask questions about anything that I felt deviated 
from the lesson outline.  For example, if the the EA didn't model a skill that 
students were practicing, I might ask how she/he'd modeled it previously, or 
asked how she'd know when her students understood that concept.  Another way I 
handle it is to arrange for her to observe me or another EA/teacher with a 
similar group, then debrief with the same formal we use for observation.  I try 
to couch it as a conversation about the children among "teachers."  I guess 
having a lesson format in place that has been taught as part of the 
training/professional development gives the EA a security blanket and the basis 
for good conversation about best
 practice that can be used in a non-threatening way.     I hope that helps.   
For me, it's finding the time and making arrangements to take the time to 
observe that is hard, as all observations need to have a follow-up with plenty 
of praise and practical suggestions. :) Terry
--- On Thu, 6/14/12, CAG  wrote:

From: CAG 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 6:39 PM

Thanks, Terry and Linda. I agree 100% with both of you and everything you say.

Linda - I like the phrase 'pause-prompt-praise' - I needed something easy to 
put in volunteers'/EA's brains.

Terry - your third point of mini-observations is my biggest discomfort. Can you 
speak more to that?

Thanks. Cathy
- Original Message - From: "Linda Rightmire" 
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs


> Terry,
> 
> I leave in your full comments on EAs. Great suggestions especially with the
> amount of back and forth interaction you have detailed. Interesting comment
> re Allington -- also a longtime favorite of mine -- that he disagrees with
> EAs for assisting weaker students. I know one of his major points is expert
> help for those kids.
> 
> However, I feel a "live, warm body" is better than a computer (that
> responds with whatever ding or boink when you're right or wrong ;/  ). I
> speak of using volunteers. I recruited volunteers very selectively -- not
> from the general parent population per se, but often from my educated
> friends (including retirees). (My husband will regularly find me at a
> gathering chatting up a friend -- turns out we're discussing whether I can
> rope them in to help one half hour a week.) No they are not trained
> specifically at length -- but I did train them and give them ongoing
> feedback.
> 
> I have had this argument with other university personnel, and I think those
> kids need *both* (obviously, I'd say). They need my expertise, but they
> also need a lot of oral reading practice at a suitable level (in
> self-chosen material, another Allington 'pillar' of reading instruction)
> -- practise reading with a friendly adult who has a bit of training. You
> can train as to 'pause-prompt-praise' (just one simple approach people can
> remember, not my invention). For example, it is common for adults to think
> they must instantly say, "no", and interrupt "that second". Reading
> Recovery taught us to use -- *after* the paragraph or whatever --  "Let's
> look at that, there's a tricky bit here," and "You said 
> -- what would we expect it to look like [or sound like] if it was
> ?"
> 
> In more substantial material (or with very struggling students) I would
> also encourage the adult to "take a turn" -- read for a page or two, just
> to improve comprehension, establish some of the vocabulary, share
> enjoyment, etc.
> 
> And so on. Great stuff, thanks, Terry.
> 
> Linda Rightmire
> SD #73 Kamloops, BC
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Terry Decker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Cathy,    I'm sorry I'm so slow getting a response to you.  Life's been
>> very hectic, as you know from the teaching at the end of the year
>> perspective.
>>    As for supervising EAs, I've found it to be one of the most rewarding
>> parts of my job as our school's Title 1 teacher/Literacy Specialist &
>> supervisor.  There are a few things that I think have helped our team to be
>> successful, and I hope this is what you're wanting.  If not

Re: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs

2012-06-14 Thread Terry Decker
Hi Cathy,    I'm sorry I'm so slow getting a response to you.  Life's been very 
hectic, as you know from the teaching at the end of the year perspective.  
   As for supervising EAs, I've found it to be one of the most rewarding parts 
of my job as our school's Title 1 teacher/Literacy Specialist & supervisor.  
There are a few things that I think have helped our team to be successful, and 
I hope this is what you're wanting.  If not, maybe this will trigger specific 
questions I can answer.  1) Hire the right EA.  If you have input on personnel, 
I'd opt for experience as much as possible.  I have 3 retired teachers on my 
team, and they're wonderful.  They have the background, the "teacher work 
ethic," and the love of children.  I also have 2 EAs who have worked in Title 
for many years and one certified teacher (secondary math--but still a teacher) 
who just wanted part-time because of family...It helps when your EAs don't have 
to learn the ropes from the ground up. 2)  Take time to train your EAs on 
exactly which programs, progress monitoring tools, and routines you want to 
use.  Make sure he/she
 can use materials with fidelity. 3)   Find a way (and this is a hard one for 
me, but I found it helps a lot ) to do regular mini-observations on your EA to 
support her/him and for your peace of mind that the students are getting what 
they need.  This will also help support the EA and give you the opportunity to 
answer specific questions about practice.  This is particularly important if 
your EA has no prior teaching background.  4)  Meet weekly to go over the data 
he/she has collected on students.  You should  be the one to enter that data 
into whatever record-keeping system you use, so you know exactly where each 
student is working.  5)  Build a professional and friendly rapport with the EA. 
 Those weekly meetings give you the opportunity to listen to the EAs insights 
and feelings about the chilodren he/she teaches, and are usually insightful.  
6)  If you learn something new/know of available professional development 
opportunities that
 would be beneficial, help to facilitate the EA's professional growth.  For 
example, I scheduled a training from our district ELL department on SIOP 
techniques, which was very beneficial and appreciated.  You don't have to do 
all the training yourself.    I hope this helps.  One of my favorite reading 
gurus, Richard Allington, is very against the use of EAs, saying that the least 
trained people are working with the neediest children.  He is undoubtedly 
correct most of the time.  But if you can hire experience, train carefully, and 
monitor effectively, I think you'll get a lot of bang for your district's buck. 
  :) Terry
--- On Mon, 5/28/12, CAG  wrote:

From: CAG 
Subject: [MOSAIC] question for Terry Decker/supervising ed techs
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 6:06 PM

Hi, Terry. I couldn't quite tell what your address was so am emailing you here. 
You can email me off-list at cag...@myfairpoint.net.

I would like to talk about supervising ed techs/EA's/other staff, as I'm 
supervising 1 ed tech for RTI, and I'm not sure I'm doing it the best it can be 
done.  I'm open to anyone else being in on the conversation as well.

Thanks. Cathy

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Re: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?

2012-05-22 Thread Terry Decker
The way we do Walk to Read is that for part of the literacy Instructional 
Blcok, all the children at a certain grade level go to a smaller, focused 
instructional group.  Some are in groups for phonics instruction at or below 
grade level; some go for comprehension work at or below grade level; others are 
accelerated with work on inferences or higher order thinking skills in above 
level materials.  Unlike traditional tracking, our Walk to Read is a flexible 
grouping, where students are often moved to more, less difficult materials, or 
in groups having a different instructional focus.  It does not replace a 
teacher's meeting with small groups during reading workshop or Daily 5 time, 
not does it eliminate whole-group instruction; but it does allow every student 
an opportunity to be taught at his instructional level every day. 

--- On Mon, 5/21/12, Foltermann, Marsha  wrote:

From: Foltermann, Marsha 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 7:19 AM

What is "Walk to Read"?

Mrs. Marsha Foltermann
6th grade, ELAR
903-462-7307
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[mailto:mosaic-bounces+mfoltermann=denisonisd@literacyworkshop.org] On 
Behalf Of Terry Decker
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:06 PM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?

We have done Walk to Read for 3 years now, and it has made a positive 
difference in the reading success of the students at my school.  Classroom 
teachers are still using the reading series for whole class instruction and are 
using literacy workshop too.  We have a mandated 90 minutes of reading 
instruction, and the Walk to Read is 30-35 minutes of that.   Our district 
funded 4 "literacy assistants, who, along with the Title 1 staff, help us to 
place every child in appropriate materials for their rate and level of 
instruction.  As the Title 1 reading specialist, I supervise the lit EAs and 
Title staff.       Additionally, I pull Tier 3 students for another "dose" of 
focused instruction in the afternoon. \   We are moving to an RtI-like process 
next year, which I eagerly anticipate. Terry

--- On Wed, 5/16/12, norma baker  wrote:

From: norma baker 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 3:49 AM

How is "Walk to Read" different from the tracking we have all worked so hard to 
get rid of in favor of Reading Workshop? We have a new administrator who 
"talks" about RW, but also wants us to buy an anthology, (funny to be thankful 
for a lack of funds!!! lol), implement centers and Walk to Read. Also "talks" 
about RTI, but has gotten rid of TIer II that had been scheduled as additional 
instruction for struggling students. Now Tier II will be during the literacy 
block which to me is supplanting rather than providing the supplemental support 
that would be beneficial! I am a Reading Workshop enthusiastic for sure and 
think far too many things are competing for the time students spend truly 
reading and teachers conferring with them. Am I being short-sighted??? Please 
enlighten me if so! Thanks! norma   An old man once said, "There comes a time 
in your life, when you walk away from all the drama and people who create it. 
You surround yourself with people 
 who make you laugh. Forget the bad, and focus on the good. Love the people who 
treat you right, pray for the ones who don't. Life is too short to be anything 
but happy. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living." 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?

2012-05-18 Thread Terry Decker
We have done Walk to Read for 3 years now, and it has made a positive 
difference in the reading success of the students at my school.  Classroom 
teachers are still using the reading series for whole class instruction and are 
using literacy workshop too.  We have a mandated 90 minutes of reading 
instruction, and the Walk to Read is 30-35 minutes of that.   Our district 
funded 4 "literacy assistants, who, along with the Title 1 staff, help us to 
place every child in appropriate materials for their rate and level of 
instruction.  As the Title 1 reading specialist, I supervise the lit EAs and 
Title staff.       Additionally, I pull Tier 3 students for another "dose" of 
focused instruction in the afternoon. \   We are moving to an RtI-like process 
next year, which I eagerly anticipate. Terry

--- On Wed, 5/16/12, norma baker  wrote:

From: norma baker 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 3:49 AM

How is "Walk to Read" different from the tracking we have all worked so hard to 
get rid of in favor of Reading Workshop? We have a new administrator who 
"talks" about RW, but also wants us to buy an anthology, (funny to be thankful 
for a lack of funds!!! lol), implement centers and Walk to Read. Also "talks" 
about RTI, but has gotten rid of TIer II that had been scheduled as additional 
instruction for struggling students. Now Tier II will be during the literacy 
block which to me is supplanting rather than providing the supplemental support 
that would be beneficial! I am a Reading Workshop enthusiastic for sure and 
think far too many things are competing for the time students spend truly 
reading and teachers conferring with them. Am I being short-sighted??? Please 
enlighten me if so! Thanks! norma   An old man once said, "There comes a time 
in your life, when you walk away from all the drama and people who create it. 
You surround yourself with people
 who make you laugh. Forget the bad, and focus on the good. Love the people who 
treat you right, pray for the ones who don't. Life is too short to be anything 
but happy. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living."  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?

2012-05-18 Thread Terry Decker
   Perhaps it looks like "tracking," but the fact that every child moves to 
his/her reading at the same time has been less "tracking" than pulling children 
for Special Education or other interventions, with their attached stigmas.  
We;ve never talked about which is "the high group", and because the Title 1 and 
SpEd pull reading groups at the same time, it minimizes those students' missing 
other instruction.  It's worked for us. Terry

--- On Wed, 5/16/12, Beverlee Paul  wrote:

From: Beverlee Paul 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Walk to Read?
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 11:40 AM

Totally correct, Norma.  We're now down the rabbit hole, Alice.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:49 AM, norma baker  wrote:

> How is "Walk to Read" different from the tracking we have all worked so
> hard to get rid of in favor of Reading Workshop? We have a new
> administrator who "talks" about RW, but also wants us to buy an anthology,
> (funny to be thankful for a lack of funds!!! lol), implement centers and
> Walk to Read. Also "talks" about RTI, but has gotten rid of TIer II that
> had been scheduled as additional instruction for struggling students. Now
> Tier II will be during the literacy block which to me is supplanting rather
> than providing the supplemental support that would be beneficial! I am a
> Reading Workshop enthusiastic for sure and think far too many things are
> competing for the time students spend truly reading and teachers conferring
> with them. Am I being short-sighted??? Please enlighten me if so! Thanks!
> norma   An old man once said, "There comes a time in your life, when you
> walk away from all the drama and people who create it. You surround
> yourself with people who make you laugh. Forget the bad, and focus on the
> good. Love the people who treat you right, pray for the ones who don't.
> Life is too short to be anything but happy. Falling down is a part of life,
> getting back up is living."
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Parental Involvement: Off Topic

2012-04-27 Thread Terry
Did you see this article???
http://www.edutopia.org/blog/parent-teacher-collaboration-richard-curwin?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_content=blog&utm_campaign=parentteacherdreamteam


Terry

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Kathy  wrote:

> If you shouldplease share.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:51 AM, rascal...@aol.com wrote:
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> >
> > HI Everyone,
> >
> > At my school, we are taking some time to discuss future ways to better
> our
> > school's curriculum, etc.  One area we'd like to improve in is with
>  Parent
> > and Community Involvement.  I was wondering if anyone has come  across
> > successful programs, activities, strategies, etc to increase Parental and
> > Community involvement.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > You can email me off list at: _rascal570@aol.com_
> > (mailto:rascal...@aol.com)
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> > Thank you in advance for your help with this.
> >
> > Ali/FL
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Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop & test taking

2012-02-25 Thread Terry
Linda,
What is the QAR strategy?

Terry

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Linda DeGreen wrote:

> I second Pauline's thoughts. I would also add that I teach the QAR
> strategy at the beginning of the year and then we use this and other test
> taking strategies to answer questions in a test format throughout the year.
> We teach test taking as a separate genre. Kids need to know how the
> elements or characteristics of tests work , the same way they understand
> the elements of reading a mystery or any other genre .
> Linda
>
> On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Pauline K Nagle wrote:
>
>  I would suggest teaching test taking as a genre, a type of reading that
>> has
>> a specific structure and way to comprehend it.  Lucy Calkins has a good
>> book about this, but I can't recall the name.  I will find the title and
>> send it to you.  I think students need to learn how to tackle the text and
>> how to handle the type of questions, and this must be taught as a skill
>> set
>> and practiced.  But it does not need to take over your reader's workshop
>> or
>> reading instruction.  You just need to teach how the comprehension skills
>> they use in their independent reading texts can be applied on an excerpt
>> and how the questions are asked.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, evelia cadet **
>> wrote:
>>
>>
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>>>
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>>>  I
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>>> want.  Out of almost 70 teachers, only 2 teachers in my school are doing
>>> reader's workshop.  We are trying to convert the other teachers in our
>>> campus.  They are noticing how our students are engaged in reading and
>>> are
>>> forming a reading community that is extending outside the classroom.
>>> However, people in my school are data driven (specifically standardized
>>> testing data), and they will not consider any instructional method,
>>> unless
>>> there is tangible evidence they drive results (standardized state
>>> testing).
>>> Ok, this was just the introduction, here is my concern.  My students
>>> seemed to be enjoying reading and they are showing evidence of
>>> understanding/applying the comprehension strategies/skills we are working
>>> on in class.  Nevertheless, when they take one of those practice test we
>>> are required to give, everything seems to go downhills.  It is like they
>>> are unable to transfer what we are learning with authentic literature to
>>> the context of the test.  I honestly don't know what to do.  I know there
>>> are people in my school, including some in the administration, waiting to
>>> see what impact reader's workshop has on test results.  Any ideas or
>>> advices.  HELP!!  Thank you.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Reader Writer Workshop Resources

2012-02-19 Thread Terry
Will you post the link to the school website you are referring to?  I would
love to check it out.

Terry

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Sandy Stevens
wrote:

> Charlene,
>
> I love your school's website.  I got lost in for over an hour.
> Unfortunately, I was unable to acces your link to the videos.:(
>
> I am working on my Reading Specialist license and hopt to be a literacy
> coach someday.  I have you rwebsite bookmarked as a great resource.
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Confering

2011-10-10 Thread Terry
I think Patrick Allen's book "Conferring" is an excellent resource for
conferring.

Terry Wrenn

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:20 PM, evelia cadet wrote:

>
>
>
>
> This is my first year launching reader's workshop and I believe is going
> very well. My district does not follow reader's workshop. So, I have been
> preaching about readers' workshop in my school. Two other teachers started
> reader's workshop, after seeing the enthusiasm my students are showing about
> their reading. I wanted to share this with you all because this group has
> made a big impact in my teaching. Now I need some help with individual
> conferences.  How essential are they? Do they need to happen everyday?  Does
> anyone know about a great website or book about individual conferences?
>  Anything else I should know about conferences?  Thanks a lot. Evelia Cadet
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Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Requirement

2011-10-04 Thread Terry
Excellent!  thanks, Sherry!  I love that idea!

Terry

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Sherry Elmore wrote:

> In addition to writing literacy letters, written responses, and reviews, my
> students have learned to love doing their own book talks for the class.
>  They sign up on a sheet when they are ready to "talk" and I require each
> student do at least one talk a quarter. Periodic mini lessons focus on book
> talk techniques and we designed a rubric together for scoring their talks.
> We conclude book talks with a question/answer time.  I have been so
> impressed to see my students take ownership of the classroom.  I take the
> role of another learner in the classroom.  This is a great extension to the
> literacy component but also supports the speaking strand or LA.  Students
> listening to the book talks keep notebooks open and record titles on their
> Future Reading Lists when they hear something that interests them.
>
> Sherry
>
> 
> From: 
> mosaic-bounces+scourie=chatham.k12.nc...@literacyworkshop.org[mosaic-bounces+scourie=
> chatham.k12.nc...@literacyworkshop.org] on behalf of Sue and Paul Therrien
> [sptherr...@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:37 PM
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Requirement
>
> Sally, I really like your approach. I am part way there telling them to
> read 20 minutes or more a night and having no parent initials. Some do it,
> some pretend. But I am going to have them set their goals like you do. Plus,
> I like the letter dialog, if I can find the time! Thanks for sharing.
> Sue
>
> --- On Tue, 10/4/11, Sally Thomas  wrote:
>
>
> From: Sally Thomas 
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Requirement
> To: "mosaic listserve" 
> Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 3:44 PM
>
>
> My students set their own goals.  We had great discussions about whether or
> not they wanted to use # pages, # books.  We had great discussions about
> the
> value of rereading if one wanted to.  And on and on.   I have evidence of
> them raising and lowering their goals for different reasons (e.g.
> Afterschool commitments etc. for awhile).  Of course at first it took them
> some getting used to.  Did I really mean it?  I shared the "research" about
> the importance of extensive reading but that it needed to be engaged
> reading.  There was literally no way that I could ever really measure that
> -
> it meant that they had to want to read.  Thus their own choices, their own
> goals.   So this was their own goal for a reason.  I did "push" sometimes,
> like in about the third month asking them to graph categories of books (
> categories elicited in a class brainstorm) and they had to plot their own.
> In addition to amount, they had to try a text from one new category that
> month.
>
> Part of the secret is creating a reading culture where it is an activity
> that most (and eventually alll) kids treasure.  Another part is using our
> teacher knowledge to help kids find the books they will love.  They also
> learn to help each other find those books.
>
> Kids took this super seriously.  Think if you are building in this kind of
> thinking (I also did reading dialogue letters once a week - authentic talk
> in writing about a book in the form of real letters back and forth) that
> the
> worry about assessment and the worry about not really reading just
> disappears.  At least that was my experience.  I LOVED this time and the
> letters and the talk.
>
> Sally
>
>
> On 10/4/11 11:06 AM, "Terry"  wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> > Would you share your thoughts about requiring a certain number of books
> to
> > be read per quarter?
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Requirement

2011-10-04 Thread Terry
Thanks to all of you for your responses.

I love the idea of individually set goals.  That makes more sense.

Terry

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Sue and Paul Therrien <
sptherr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Sally, I really like your approach. I am part way there telling them to
> read 20 minutes or more a night and having no parent initials. Some do it,
> some pretend. But I am going to have them set their goals like you do. Plus,
> I like the letter dialog, if I can find the time! Thanks for sharing.
> Sue
>
> --- On Tue, 10/4/11, Sally Thomas  wrote:
>
>
> From: Sally Thomas 
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Requirement
> To: "mosaic listserve" 
> Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 3:44 PM
>
>
> My students set their own goals.  We had great discussions about whether or
> not they wanted to use # pages, # books.  We had great discussions about
> the
> value of rereading if one wanted to.  And on and on.   I have evidence of
> them raising and lowering their goals for different reasons (e.g.
> Afterschool commitments etc. for awhile).  Of course at first it took them
> some getting used to.  Did I really mean it?  I shared the "research" about
> the importance of extensive reading but that it needed to be engaged
> reading.  There was literally no way that I could ever really measure that
> -
> it meant that they had to want to read.  Thus their own choices, their own
> goals.   So this was their own goal for a reason.  I did "push" sometimes,
> like in about the third month asking them to graph categories of books (
> categories elicited in a class brainstorm) and they had to plot their own.
> In addition to amount, they had to try a text from one new category that
> month.
>
> Part of the secret is creating a reading culture where it is an activity
> that most (and eventually alll) kids treasure.  Another part is using our
> teacher knowledge to help kids find the books they will love.  They also
> learn to help each other find those books.
>
> Kids took this super seriously.  Think if you are building in this kind of
> thinking (I also did reading dialogue letters once a week - authentic talk
> in writing about a book in the form of real letters back and forth) that
> the
> worry about assessment and the worry about not really reading just
> disappears.  At least that was my experience.  I LOVED this time and the
> letters and the talk.
>
> Sally
>
>
> On 10/4/11 11:06 AM, "Terry"  wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> > Would you share your thoughts about requiring a certain number of books
> to
> > be read per quarter?
>
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[MOSAIC] Reading Requirement

2011-10-04 Thread Terry
Hello All,
Would you share your thoughts about requiring a certain number of books to
be read per quarter?  I use and teach the thinking strategies and we do much
work honing those skills.  Although I use mentor texts for lessons, the bulk
of reading is student choice.  Prior to this "thinking culture", I used AR
tests and had point goals for each student.  I read (and loved) The Book
Whisperer and felt like I needed some type of "requirement" to keep
reluctant readers focused on that goal - thus the 6 book per quarter goal.

What I am seeing, however, is that students who haven't met their goal yet
are choosing short, easy books to just finish the goal rather than digging
into a book they would truly love or want to read.  I think that defeats the
purpose of developing a passion for reading...it becomes more of a chore.

Any suggestion or advice would be welcome.  Should I continue with a number
requirement per quarter?  How do I keep those reluctant or lazy readers
reading of there is no requirement???

Thanks...in advance.

Terry

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Re: [MOSAIC] how do you teach phonics in grades 3-5?

2011-09-19 Thread Terry
You might want to check out Jeff Anderson's books, Mechanically Inclined and
Everyday Editing.  I love them...Jeff gives great insight to teaching
grammar in the context of writer's workshop.

Terry

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Saundra McDonald
wrote:

>
> We have recently implemented a Reading/Writing Workshop approach for grades
> 3-5 at our small independent school.  One of the teachers is quite concerned
> that phonics is not being explicitly taught.  We do use Words Their Way.  In
> addition, teachers include word attack skills during some of the
> mini-lessons.  How do other schools address this issue?
>
> Thank you,
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Re: [MOSAIC] Young Adult Book Selections

2011-08-07 Thread Terry
Maggie,
Love you passion!

You are a great inspiration!

Any chance you'd have time to send a booklist with some of your favorite
books - the ones that catch the "non-reader?"

I teach 5th grade - a younger group - but maybe there'd be some that would
be equally as enticing to a 5th grader.

Thanks for sharing your story!

Terry

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Mnayer, Maggie
wrote:

> Jean,
>
> I teach 9th and 10th grade English and Reading for 9-12 graders in an urban
> school and share your struggle.  There are several conclusions I have come
> to.  First of all, school is an academic environment and I argue my students
> can read the more objectionable books at home or on their own time.  I have
> over 1100 books in my personal classroom library and most of them are
> considered  high interest for adolescents, especially young men.  My job is
> to introduce them to the various genres of books (I read little snippets of
> the different books available to them) and set them loose.  I also provide
> 5-15 minutes at the beginning of each class to read their self-selected
> books.  This allows me to opportunities to  share with them other works by
> either same author or authors with similar writing styles.  Second, they
> need to learn, much like the language they use, there is a time and place
> for everything.  How I speak to my family is not the same as how I speak at
> school or at the university where I am teaching classes.  There is a casual
> conversation and a formal conversation.  I only allow formal conversation in
> the classroom.  Keeping that in mind, makes it easy to translate that
> argument into the rationale that there are school appropriate books and
> those that are not school appropriate.  Furthermore, many of my students
> would be very uncomfortable with explicit sex, violence, and language, all
> of which are what I consider objectionable. There many high interest
> nonfiction books that have hooked the most apathetic of students when their
> interests have been tapped. Third, if they argue the only books they are
> interested are the ones that have objectionable material in them, they are
> grasping at straws and aren't going to read anyway. In my experience, those
> who want to read books that are "keeping it real" for them are those that
> want validation that the self-destructive choices they are making (choosing
> to become part of the culture of drugs and violence that surrounds them) are
> "normal" and then they won't have to feel guilt or question those choices.
>  That life may be normal for a small segment of our society, but it will not
> help our students make less risky choices by giving them the idea it is
> normal for the rest of our society. Every year, several of my students tell
> me that EVERYONE is in a gang, EVERYONE is involved in violence, and so on.
>  Well, everyone isn't, just many of the people they know and by including
> those lifestyles in literature selections for them to read, you are telling
> them it is acceptable and normal. I have big issues with any teacher sending
> those messages.  I believe a large part of my job is exposing my students to
> the world outside of their limited exposure.  There is an entire world
> outside of our town and I want my students to assertively choose where and
> how they will fit into it and not just do what they see around them.  They
> may still choose that in the end, but it won't be because they did not know
> there was something out there that was a better fit for their personalities
> and strengths.  Somewhere between objectionable and Shakespeare, there is a
> wonderfully wide range of amazing books  that students can explore, read,
> and enjoy.
>
> I am sorry this is so long, but I am really passionate about this topic and
> truly believe this is an inroad we can use to help our students break out of
> negative cycles and can be one of the tools they can use to reshape the way
> they see themselves and their futures.  I know this from personal
> experience.  My 11th grade English teacher was the first person EVER to tell
> me I was smart and should  go to college.  No one in my family even
> graduated from high school and I was told that I was NOT going to college.
>  I was not smart enough and they weren't spending the money on something as
> foolish as school.  I now have my MA and not only teach in high school, but
> also  teach adjunct courses at the  local university.  So, I know from
> personal experience that a teacher planting seeds of change CAN, in fact,
> completely alter a child's lifetime course.  Oh, she also took me to my
> first opera and told me there was a whole world outside my home and that I
> should be part of that too. I would hav

Re: [MOSAIC] reading logs

2011-07-19 Thread Terry
Love this


On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jan Sanders  wrote:

> I had my students read every night.  The first 15 minutes of the school day
> they met with a partner (their choice -could stay the same or change daily)
> and told them about their book, why they liked it (or didn't) something
> about the setting or character...  I had a list of conversation starters,
> but once they understood this was to meet with someone and talk about
> reading or what they read last night, the starters were rarely used.  Maybe
> once a week I had 1 or 2 students not read.  They were allowed to read
> whatever they wanted -just be ready to talk about it.  The students got
> very
> excited about reading and loved that they didn't have to write about it for
> homework, or bug mom or dad, or auntie, or grandma to sign a log.
> During those 15 minutes I would walk around to listen in to partner talk.
>  We would meet as a class afterwards at the open space on the carpet (close
> together) and I would have a few students share what their partner had said
> while they met that day (this kept them listening to their partner as they
> never knew who would be called on to share that day).  The partner was
> allowed to interject if they wanted to clarify something.
> Jan
>
> I had parents tell me they loved the homework and students became
> motivated,
> excited readers.  I even had students decide to read the same book so they
> could talk about it together.
>
> Jan
> You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your
> grandmother.
> -Albert Einstein
> "*If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for
> reward,
> then we are a sorry lot indeed.*" Albert Einstein
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:21 PM,  wrote:
>
> >
> >  Hello,
> >
> >  I would greatly appreciate your thoughts about the use of reading logs
> in
> > my sixth grade reading/writing workshop. My homework policy is that
> students
> > read 30 minutes 5 nights a week or 150 minutes a week. They are free to
> read
> > any book they choose. I give students a reading log, due every Monday,
> that
> > asks them to document the minutes they read nightly, I ask them to write
> > about their independent reading weekly, based on the strategies and or
> > elements of literature we were studying.  I maintain a classroom library
> and
> > students have access to the school library every 2 weeks. My problem is
> that
> > my homework completion rate is TERRIBLE. Rather , I should say that fewer
> > than 50% of my students regularly turn in their homework. Atwell, Miller,
> > and many, many other language arts teachers consider reading at home an
> > important part of their reading program. I  am tempted to drop the the
> > reading log requiremnent, but I don't want to "dumb down" my expectations
> > for my students who are predominantly blue collar and poor. I want
> students
> > to have some accountability, but at the same time I don't want to make
> the
> > homework process so cumbersome that it turns my students off to reading
> > independently. What are your experiences and insights that can help?
> Thank
> > you.
> >
> > Darlene Kellum
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MOSAIC] reading logs

2011-07-18 Thread Terry
Love the letter idea!  :)


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Sherry R Elmore  wrote:

> I, too, used the friendly letter format.  My students alternated weeks
> between writing to me and writing to a student in a class in a neighboring
> county.  I was in grad school with the teacher at the other school and we
> matched up our kids as literacy buddies.  The letters were called literacy
> letters.  The day my students would get a letter in return (either from me
> or from their buddies) was wonderful.  They could not wait to read them.
>
> I also had the same experience, mostly getting summaries at first or simple
> comments like "I liked this book", "It was a good book", "I would recommend
> this book".  However, by the end of the year, I was getting comments like "I
> wonder why Rowling is killing off all of Harry's father figures" and " I
> have realized I like books written in 1st person because I find I connect
> with them more."
>
> The REALLY tough part to sell teachers on is the time commitment it takes
> to respond to the letters.  However, once I got started and realized the
> benefits, it became something I looked forward to doing.  The students
> really need to see you as a reader as well.  They need to see you constantly
> modeling what good readers do. I am a curriculum coach.  In that position, I
> used an actual letter from one of my former students as text for a paideia
> seminar with my teachers to show where we wanted the letters to lead, how
> much learning could take place by writing them, and the relationship that
> can be developed between the teacher and the student.  This approach proved
> an easy sell for teachers!
>
> Sherry Elmore
>
>  _
>
> From: Sally Thomas [mailto:sally.thom...@verizon.net]
> To: mosaic listserve [mailto:mosaic@literacyworkshop.org]
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:05:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] reading logs
>
> My students kept a list of books read.  Then we wrote informal  letters,
>  back and forth, about their reading once a week.  They were more like
>  conversations.  Took awhile for some to "get it."  "What do you mean write
> a
>  letter?"  I said make it like a chatty letter to a friend.  Two of my kids
>  started labeling their letters "chatty letter #1."  Had to model examples
> of
>  course.  And every week, my letters back were models of how people write
>  about their reading.  Sometimes I would ask some if I could share their
>  letters so others could see the kinds of things we were writing.  At first
>  they would tend to write summaries.  But that wasn't what I wanted.
>  Rather:
>  Here's what I'm reading.  I'm thinking.  I'm wondering.  I'm discovering
>  this about myself as a reader.  I'd like to read . next.  With
> patience
>  and time the letters got interesting.  They were funny, serious, sometimes
>  profound.   I learned a lot about them as readers.   I know Atwell wrote
>  about these at one time, Cora Lee Five I think did too, I did too in
>  Language Arts years ago.
>
>  It had a different "feel" than an assignment to my students.  They loved
>  these letters and got upset if I missed a week.  Only strategy I used that
>  NEVER got complaints.  Think it felt like writing personal notes with your
>  teacher!
>
>  Sally
>
>
>  On 7/17/11 9:21 PM, "da...@aol.com"  wrote:
>
>  >
>  >  Hello,
>  >
>  >   I would greatly appreciate your thoughts about the use of reading logs
> in my
>  > sixth grade reading/writing workshop. My homework policy is that
> students read
>  > 30 minutes 5 nights a week or 150 minutes a week. They are free to read
> any
>  > book they choose. I give students a reading log, due every Monday, that
> asks
>  > them to document the minutes they read nightly, I ask them to write
> about
>  > their independent reading weekly, based on the strategies and or
> elements of
>  > literature we were studying.  I maintain a classroom library and
> students have
>  > access to the school library every 2 weeks. My problem is that my
> homework
>  > completion rate is TERRIBLE. Rather , I should say that fewer than 50%
> of my
>  > students regularly turn in their homework. Atwell, Miller, and many,
> many
>  > other language arts teachers consider reading at home an important part
> of
>  > their reading program. I  am tempted to drop the the reading log
> requiremnent,
>  > but I don't want to "dumb down" my expectations for my students who are
>  >  predominantly blue collar and poor. I want students to have some
>  > accountability, but at the same time I don't want to make the homework
> process
>  > so cumbersome that it turns my students off to reading independently.
> What are
>  > your experiences and insights that can help? Thank you.
>  >
>  > Darlene Kellum
>  >
>  >
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Re: [MOSAIC] reading logs

2011-07-18 Thread Terry
Just a thought...here's is a link to Patrick Allen's (Conferring) blog...he
has a great post on reading logs...you may have to dig a little but it's
sure worth reading to address your questions.

http://all-en-a-days-work.blogspot.com/

Terry Wrenn

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Sally Thomas wrote:

> My students kept a list of books read.  Then we wrote informal  letters,
> back and forth, about their reading once a week.  They were more like
> conversations.  Took awhile for some to "get it."  "What do you mean write
> a
> letter?"  I said make it like a chatty letter to a friend.  Two of my kids
> started labeling their letters "chatty letter #1."  Had to model examples
> of
> course.  And every week, my letters back were models of how people write
> about their reading.  Sometimes I would ask some if I could share their
> letters so others could see the kinds of things we were writing.  At first
> they would tend to write summaries.  But that wasn't what I wanted.
>  Rather:
> Here's what I'm reading.  I'm thinking.  I'm wondering.  I'm discovering
> this about myself as a reader.  I'd like to read . next.  With patience
> and time the letters got interesting.  They were funny, serious, sometimes
> profound.   I learned a lot about them as readers.   I know Atwell wrote
> about these at one time, Cora Lee Five I think did too, I did too in
> Language Arts years ago.
>
> It had a different "feel" than an assignment to my students.  They loved
> these letters and got upset if I missed a week.  Only strategy I used that
> NEVER got complaints.  Think it felt like writing personal notes with your
> teacher!
>
> Sally
>
>
> On 7/17/11 9:21 PM, "da...@aol.com"  wrote:
>
> >
> >  Hello,
> >
> >   I would greatly appreciate your thoughts about the use of reading logs
> in my
> > sixth grade reading/writing workshop. My homework policy is that students
> read
> > 30 minutes 5 nights a week or 150 minutes a week. They are free to read
> any
> > book they choose. I give students a reading log, due every Monday, that
> asks
> > them to document the minutes they read nightly, I ask them to write about
> > their independent reading weekly, based on the strategies and or elements
> of
> > literature we were studying.  I maintain a classroom library and students
> have
> > access to the school library every 2 weeks. My problem is that my
> homework
> > completion rate is TERRIBLE. Rather , I should say that fewer than 50% of
> my
> > students regularly turn in their homework. Atwell, Miller, and many, many
> > other language arts teachers consider reading at home an important part
> of
> > their reading program. I  am tempted to drop the the reading log
> requiremnent,
> > but I don't want to "dumb down" my expectations for my students who are
> >  predominantly blue collar and poor. I want students to have some
> > accountability, but at the same time I don't want to make the homework
> process
> > so cumbersome that it turns my students off to reading independently.
> What are
> > your experiences and insights that can help? Thank you.
> >
> > Darlene Kellum
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MOSAIC] OH NO! OH NO! OH NO!

2011-05-10 Thread Terry
I am interested in this.

Terry Wrenn
5th Grade
McDonald Elementary

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Flemming, Melanie E.
wrote:

> I'm up for a lesson study!
>
> Melanie Flemming
> Third Grade
> Franklin Elementary School
>
>
> ~Developing 21st Century Learners~
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mosaic-bounces+mflemming=bcps@literacyworkshop.org [mailto:
> mosaic-bounces+mflemming=bcps@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of
> Beverlee Paul
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:43 AM
> To: Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Subject: [MOSAIC] OH NO! OH NO! OH NO!
>
> JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS IN THE CLEAR - I promised myself NO NEW BOOKS but
> then...came...Lesson Study Step by Step - How Teacher Learning Communities
> Improve Instruction by Catherine C. Lewis and Jacqueline Hurd published by
> Heinemann  ANYONE FOR A BOOK STUDY? (then I'd HAVE to buy the book!)
>
> --
> "If you want to build a ship, don't herd people together to collect wood
> and
> don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the
> endless immensity of the sea."  Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Re: [MOSAIC] reading videos, including the Black Eyed Peas

2011-03-15 Thread Glynda Terry
Our school filters also block YouTube. However, I think I "googled" for it last 
year and found it a couple of different ways that got around our filter. We 
sent it out to all of our teachers, learned the words, and performed it 
(adapted somewhat) at our K-2 Reading Celebration in May. Our principal still 
plays it over the intercom occasionally this year. If you still can't find it 
that you can watch, email me and I can probably send you links to it.
 
Glynda Terry
Reading Specialist
W. G. Rhea Elementary School
Paris, TN 38242
731-641-0962

>>> "Dluhos Sara (31R024)"  3/14/2011 11:14 AM >>>
I was so excited to watch this (and possibly show it to my next class) until I 
saw that it was on YouTube, which is blocked on our computers here at school.  
:(

Mrs. Sara Dluhos
English Language Arts
Barnes Intermediate School 24
(718) 356-4200



From: mosaic-bounces+sdluhos=schools.nyc@literacyworkshop.org on behalf of 
Hillary Marchel
Sent: Sat 3/12/2011 7:26 AM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] reading videos, including the Black Eyed Peas



Here you go 
.https://www.ocps.net/lc/west/moo/Documents/Gotta%20Keep%20Reading%20Lyrics.pdf

Hillary Marchel Reading Specialist
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> thanks.  I need the words to The CST song using the black eyed peas song. 
> Does any one else still have them.
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>> This will get your kids jumping up with a good book!
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Re: [MOSAIC] conferring

2010-12-31 Thread Terry
We did a lesson on "Conferring Protocol" and made a poster of what was
expected of EVERYONE while I am conferring with a student.  Occasionally I
review it and if a student does interrupt or gets off task I refer them back
to the poster.  It has helped a lot.  My poster has things like when it's
okay to interrupt (hardly ever!); what they should be doing (reading,
writing about reading, or talking - minimally - about reading)  stuff like
that.  I teach 5th grade so that's a bit younger but so far things are
working pretty good.

Best of luck...

Terry

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:59 PM,  wrote:

> Before school starts on Monday, I need to have a better plan for how to
> handle conferring in my classroom.
> I teach middle school.  My students are fine during mini lessons or when
> they are working independently.
> When I have a conference with an individual or a small group, everything
> seems to fall apart.  The rest of the class seems to think conferring means
> it's their opportunity to get off task.
> I've asked my colleagues for help, but all I've gotten is that I have to
> let the class know I expect them to keep working.  That advice has not
> helped me.
> If you have a specific suggestion that has worked for you, please let me
> know. Thanks!
> Jan
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Re: [MOSAIC] 5th grade up Interactive comprehension sites needed

2010-11-05 Thread Terry
Would this one work?

www.easycbm.com

Terry

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Ann Jernigan <
ajerni...@mail.wccards.k12.mo.us> wrote:

> We are needing some interactive computer sites where students can read
> stories and answer questions.   We have students asking for these so they
> can practice at home.   We are needing these for upper elementary/junior
> high levels.   You guys are always great resources.   Can anyone out there
> help?Here's a website that some of you might like for the JH/HS
> students:
> http://literacyworks.org/learningresources/4_networked_indiv/lr_networked_indiv_home.html
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Re: [MOSAIC] sitting on the floor

2010-10-06 Thread Terry
I have several folding outdoor chairs (the collapsible type) in my room.
 Would those work?  They are compact enough to tuck away when we aren't
using them.

Terry

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Stacey McDonald  wrote:

> I teach 6th grade at a LARGE (almost 10,000 students) district in upstate
> New York. Here's my dilemma - I would love to have the kids on the floor
> but
> the custodian has firmly planted his foot stating no rugs (hygienic
> reasons), no sofas (won't pass fire inspection). I saw that you have futons
> - those would NEVER be permitted in my district.
>
> Does anyone have ideas as to how to bring the kids up close/cozy to
> engender
> the feeling of sharing something - in this case a book - when there are so
> many regulations in place?
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[MOSAIC] Professional Book Discussions

2010-06-22 Thread Teresa Terry
I was wondering are any of your doing an online professional book discussion?  
If so...

Teresa




  
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Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency

2010-03-11 Thread Terry Decker
   I've just been working with our literacy EAs and my Title 1 EAs on fluency.  
The feature article in this month's Reading Teacher , although focused on 
1-minute fluency timings, does a good job on understanding how to improve true 
fluency!  
   I do use SOAR to Success for K-2, Read Naturally, and Reading Rewards in our 
Title program.  There are strengths in all these programs.   I agree that a 
small group of intensive intervention students benefit from them.  In using 
Reading Rewards, we have the most success by coupling that direct-model 
instruction with readers' theater.  Finding books that hook the upper 
elementary struggling reader is critical to fluency and especially making 
life-long readers.  So, we keep working on as many ways to get kids reading as 
we can find and get teachers to use in the classroom, while targeting intensive 
readers with appropriate intervention.

Terry Decker
Reding Specialist, Title 1 

--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Beth  wrote:

> From: Beth 
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency
> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:49 AM
> 
> I have to agree that, for most students, wide reading of
> "just-right" or even slightly easy text will work
> wonders.  BUT, there is always a small group of kids
> who need a more explicit intervention, whether we like it or
> not.  I have teachers using Read Naturally and the
> students do seem to benefit from it and enjoy doing
> it.  The teachers see the pay-off, otherwise they
> wouldn't continue using it, but every one of them emphasizes
> that it is only for a small group of students, carefully
> selected, for whom other things (readers theater, choral
> reading, etc.) has been unsuccessful.
> 
> My school has not used this program yet, but another school
> in our district has tried the Rewards Program.  This is
> for 5-6 grade students, I believe.  While the person
> who implemented the program admits it's not overly
> stimulating for the students, it did make a difference in
> their fluency.  It is a short-term program done
> daily.  I found some information on the program on the
> FCRR.org web site (Florida Center for Reading Research).
> 
> Again, nothing beats tons of reading to build fluency, but
> for the student who is not a fluent reader, chances are
> reading has become a chore and something he or she
> avoids.  We have to actively work, using the tools we
> have to work with,  to rebuild their confidence and to
> help them view themselves as productive readers.  I
> also agree, however, that these fluency interventions need
> to be a part of a comprehensive instructional program, not
> something done in isolation!
> 
> Beth
> Language Arts Resource Specialist, Title 1 Reading
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
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> We use the Read Naturally program.  The students love
> it.
> >>> "Yingling" 
> 3/9/2010 10:10 PM >>>
> oes anyone know of an intervention program proven to
> improve fluency in 
> pper elementary grades?  Right now we have Soar to
> Success and Great Leaps. 
> ut, these programs aren't helping our 4th/5th grade
> fluency.  Any ideas?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Spelling

2010-02-04 Thread Terry Tabat
I use a spelling list that has 15 words in order from easy to
difficult. Students take a pretest on Friday of the first 10 words. If they
pass a word, they don't have it. This sound difficult but I use a sheet with
all the words listed in the left column. The center column has 10 blank
lines and the right column has all 15 lines.  This sheet is placed in a file
folder with the top lid cut into 3 leaves.  For the pretest, they have the
center flap up with the other two papercliped down.  I give the first 10
words only. The last 5 are called enrichment words.  When I correct it, I
use a highlighter to highlight the words in the first column I want them to
learn and the numbers of the same words in the third column.  I cut off the
first column and give it to them to learn.  This way I can give different
students different words and number of words.  I have many ELL students plus
high students. This seems to do the best job of meeting their needs.  On
Friday, I give the entire list but students know that they are only
responsible for the ones that are highlighted.  I teach third grade and they
seem to be able to understand this method.

Terry Tabat
Lexington, NC

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> I am in my 7th year of teaching, and am trying to start up an
> individualized
> spelling program for my 2nd graders, starting with the 2nd semester next
> week. I've done some research, but am interested in some practical thought
> and advice based on experience! Also, I would be interested in any theories
> or ideas behind giving spelling tests. I ditched them a few years ago
> because I found my 1st graders were either struggling through the entire
> thing (becoming frustrated, and not learning anything in the process), or
> were acing every test because they already knew the words or were
> memorizing
> them and not transferring to writing. I've also recognized this could have
> been due to my poor implementation; I am a writer's workshop teacher
> through
> and through, and wasn't devoting a lot of time to it.
>
> So, please offer up your thoughts and advice!
>
> Thank you,
> Amy Tisinger
> 2nd Grade Teacher
> Rainbow Bridge International School
> Shanghai, China
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[MOSAIC] logging in

2009-07-02 Thread Terry Decker
I'd like my password to be vptitle.


  
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Re: [MOSAIC] Content Area Read Alouds Requested

2007-12-29 Thread Teresa Terry
Leslie,
   
  I am hoping to compile a list of K-6 read alouds for our bookroom.  In doing 
so, teachers can select those appropriate for reading alouds as well as bring 
in a tub of texts at multiple levels for students to use for research and 
further study. 
   
  I appreciate you asking.  Before your question I was thinking small...5th 
grade!  Thanks for expanding my mind. =)
Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Teresa,
For which grade?
Leslie/1/CA

Teresa Terry wrote:

I am in the process in putting together an order for read alouds for the 
following science topics:

Minerals, properties of matter & change, Sedimentary, Igneious & metamorphic 
rocks, solar system (Sun, Earth, Moons, Planets, & Galaxies) and Fossils 
records and Earth changes

I would love to have any book recommendations. I am open to any genre of 
book/print media that pertains to these topics.

Teresa


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[MOSAIC] Content Area Read Alouds Requested

2007-12-27 Thread Teresa Terry

I am in the process in putting together an order for read alouds for the 
following science topics:
   
  Minerals, properties of matter & change, Sedimentary, Igneious & metamorphic 
rocks, solar system (Sun, Earth, Moons, Planets, & Galaxies) and Fossils 
records and Earth changes
   
  I would love to have any book recommendations.  I am open to any genre of 
book/print media that pertains to these topics.
   
  Teresa

   
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[MOSAIC] Fountas and Pinnell Assessment Kit

2007-08-19 Thread Terry Brusda
Good Morning Reading Enthusiasts-

Is there anyone out there with a new Assessment Kit from Fountas and 
Pinnell-what is your professional opinion? We are looking at movong away from 
the  Dominie as our benchmarks and are searching for a replacement.
thanks!
Cathy in Green Bay-
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Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin, when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-26 Thread Teresa Terry
Yes, Heather it is on p. 87 of Teaching for Deeper Comprehension.  Linda and 
Carla have grouped under the goal of participants internalizing language 
as...restating, inviting, acknowledgeing, focusing/refocusing, elaborating, 
providing evidence, requesting clarification, and posing questions for the 
group.  They describe the behavior/definition and then the teacher scaffold.
  For providing evidence they say, "Supporting one's own or another's thinking; 
examples can be inside or outside the text." Teacher scaffold could be, "Can 
anyone else give an example of___ from the text?" and  "Has anything like this 
ever happen to you or someon you know?"  They also list making connections, 
predictions, recalling, inferring, and visualizing under the goal for 
participants to share and/or question their comprehension processes before, 
during, and after reading.
   
  What I love about this book is that they give the theory behind their 
practical application. It is amazing to have read the texts that provoked their 
thoughts.  It really has given me a deeper understanding of what their thinking 
is.  It is also nice to see the how their thinking has been shaped by research, 
the research of others, and their work with teachers and kids. 
   
  Someone asked me earlier what my conversation moves, co-constructed chart, 
sounded/looked like.  Well it is at school; but, the kids and I talked about 
and watched the DVD lit. group clip from TDC and recorded what/how kids 
connected their talk in discussions.  Through that notetaking/observing we 
listed on one chart what kids did and then on another the language they used.  
We added our own language to the second chart also. So, one chart might say 
Agree/Disagree   and the other chart might say, "I agree with ___ because" 
   
  I have been reading some of the new Comprehension/Fluency Fountas and Pinnell 
book that Deb suggested.   I was excited to see that they had used the 
Instructional Conversation research in their book: it seems like a list of 
"whats".  I often wonder why some authors cut out the why and move directly 
into the how/what.  I wonder if this causes teachers to stay at a procedural 
levels and unable to see abstractly and transfer this knowledge to future 
teaching or to really understand why the do what they do...rather than just do. 
 But, maybe it is there...I have only flipped through the pages and read those 
chapters pertaining to literature discussion groups.   I was happy to see that 
this book moved from emergent literacy to fluent levels of eight graders.
   
  Teresa T.
   
  

Heather Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Teresa,

The Dorn and Soffos book you mention below when discussing Text Talk - is that 
"Teaching for Deep Comprehension"? Is that where I need to look to find more 
info on Text Talk and the Conversation Moves chart?

Thanks,

Heather Wall/ 3rd grade/ Georgia
NBCT 2005
Literacy: Reading - Language Arts



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From: Teresa Terry 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:15:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin, when comprehension strategies become the reason 
for reading. . .


Lori,

That is one book I do not ownyet. Could you talk about the different 
categories and the coding of conversations? 

For an action research project I did analyze the change over time in 
teacher/student talk in regards to Dorn and Soffos' Text Talk which included 
posing questions, clarifying, elaborating, supporting thinking with evidence, 
etc... I also looked at each chain of talk and classified it as literal, 
inferencial, and evaluative to determine if thinking deepened with the use of 
text talk/students' own language which produced the same behaviors. After each 
literature discussion we go over over Conversational Moves chart
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Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin, when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-22 Thread Teresa Terry
Thanks for sharing!  I read this book a couple of years ago...I think we even 
talked about it one summer on this listserve.  I think over Christmas I am 
going to revisit.  
   
  I really like the power and insights you gain from videotaping yourself with 
students.  It is amazing how a group changes over time and allows you to 
replace and reflect on your own teaching.
  

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  I am just finishing using Ardith Davis Cole's Knee to Knee which focuses on 
conversations on shared texts - a five-step process. I began in September going 
into one classroom at each level from grades 1 through 5. This is the first 
time I have used this text. The classrooms I went into were heterogeneous, 
including higher students, remedial students, and classified students. We 
started slowly with just observing other people having conversations and then 
inched ourselves into making "I wonders", asking thick and thin questions, and 
looking for evidence within a shared text. Most of the groundwork was done by 
me, through direction instruction and lots and lots of modeling and the kids 
were just observers. 

"Calling the Circle" was the highlight of this endeavor. The entire class sat 
in a large circle on the floor to engage in a shared text conversation - 
usually from read alouds. The hardest thing for me to do, as a teacher, was to 
become mute. I couldn't say anything or use any body language that would sway 
the students' comments. My job was to write down any positive comments or 
observations I made to share following their converstion. In every session 
where the circle was called, I had to interrupt the kids because we had run out 
of time rather than conversation. The kids learned not only the conventions of 
having a strong, meaningful conversation, but they also began to "police" 
themselves to keep attentive and focused. The comments from the students, 
regardless of their "standing" in the classroom, raised my eyebrows as well as 
my consciousness of what children can do when you provide them with engaging 
and relevant lessons. I can't tell you how many times I had to pick 
my chin up off the floor. Students who normally were introverted in the 
classroom became some of my most vocal conversationalists. The final step is to 
whittle the circle back to three students, and finally, to independent 
conversations on texts that are read - of course, these are in our heads.

If you haven't looked at this text, I would highly recommend it. We are so 
impressed with the results that we are going to video tape one of the classes 
in a "circle" conversation with the hopes that it will air on a local 
educational channel or, at the very least, be available for any staff members 
who might consider doing this with their own class. It is not just a book to 
teach kids how to dialogue on literature, it also covers many strategies that 
are inherent with critical thinking and being socially acceptable.

Linda

-- Original message -- 
From: Teresa Terry 

> Lori, 
> 
> That is one book I do not ownyet. Could you talk about the different 
> categories and the coding of conversations? 
> 
> For an action research project I did analyze the change over time in 
> teacher/student talk in regards to Dorn and Soffos' Text Talk which included 
> posing questions, clarifying, elaborating, supporting thinking with evidence, 
> etc... I also looked at each chain of talk and classified it as literal, 
> inferencial, and evaluative to determine if thinking deepened with the use of 
> text talk/students' own language which produced the same behaviors. After 
> each 
> literature discussion we go over over Conversational Moves chart and reflect 
> on 
> our use of the moves in the wording on the chart or in their own words. We 
> add 
> their own words to chart. This chart has served as a scaffold in connecting 
> talk. As students take on the language/behaviors it will be less needed/taken 
> down. 
> 
> Anyway, I said all this to say...II'd love to know more about what you are 
> thinking. 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> I am working with two oung teachers working in outlaying schools, nearly 40 
> miles away from one another, to develop an 
> inquiry based unit of study that will involve 'lit cirlce discussions' that 
> will 
> be facilitated using Blackboard. Both teachers have 
> small classes, children who have known each other since birth (or darn near) 
> and 
> are reluctant readers. Our hope is that a 
> different approach, choice in reading and the opportunity to mix things up a 
> bit 
> in terms of grouping will help. I have been 
> reading Jeff Wilhelm's new book on inquiry, which I highly recommend, and he 
> discusses the skills students need to have 

Re: [MOSAIC] New problem....

2006-12-22 Thread Teresa Terry
The DVD that comes with Teaching for Deeper Comprehension has a couple of 
student discussions and a couple of adult discussions.  I used the two kid ones 
with my upper grade kids...I'm thinking the video had 4th or 5th graders.  We 
watched first for understanding.  Rewatched for what kids did...rewatched for 
what they sounded like.

Jan Kammert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I have read Bill's new problem and 
some of your suggestions. I also teach
8th grade, and I'm beginning to think that my students would benefit from
a video that shows an excellent book discussion.

Can anyone suggest a video I can buy?
Thanks!
Jan


On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, William Roberts wrote:

> Hope everyone is getting rest and relaxation this holiday season, but I've
> got a problem: I'm not getting any thinking from my 8th graders.at
> least not anything I want. I know I'm not expecting too much from them
> since other years have not been sosomere words can't describe them.
> Let me show you:
> 
> I gave a writing prompt to tell me about a favorite movie, TV show, book,
> video game, or CD album. Many tried, but a few MADE UP SHOWS! Once wrote
> about a movie that had "over 200 movie stars!" Others wrote about movies
> that hadn't even seen, but they had heard of them or had seen a trailer
> about them. A few told me that they had no favorite for any of the
> suggested items! I asked, "What do you do for fun?" and got the response,
> "I sleep." I continued with, "What do you do when you wake up?" Answer:
> "I eat." I knew better, but continued, "So what do you do when you aren't
> sleeping or eating?" and was told, "Sometimes I stare at my ceiling fan."
> 
> I was finishing a movie unit which included using the strategies on art,
> music, movies, as well as books, and the students were supposed to select a
> movie from the top 250 movies (foreign and American), and write an essay
> about the film. One child wrote, "I didn't do the assignment. It was a
> stupid assignment. You wanted us to write about a movie we hadn't seen. If
> we hadn't seen it, how did you expect us to write about it?" and he was
> totally sincere! One wrote about ROCKY and regaled about the "bloody,
> awesome fights" but not one thing about the acting or music or direction.
> When I asked if he had actually seen it, he said "no, but I did see part of
> one of the fights."
> 
> In a class discussion about music, we all made connections when I talked
> about a favorite song coming on the radio ("Everyone turns up the volume!"),
> but when I mentioned a song you didn't like, this class said, "you listen to
> it." I asked if you changed the station (which most classes admitted), but
> this one class insisted you just listen to the song whether you hate it or
> not. I asked why they wouldn't change the station, and they said "if you
> wait, a better song will come on." I asked (you'd think I'd learn to stop
> asking) why they didn't turn the station and was told, "It's too much
> trouble to change the knob back."
> 
> They do not infer. They do not think for themselves or have educated
> opinions. Is this laziness? The results of too much state tests? Is this
> group a mutation? Or did they miss the cognitive boat? With state tests
> only a few months away, I'm losing my mind. Any ideas?
> 
> Bill
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin, when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-22 Thread Teresa Terry
Lori,
   
  That is one book I do not ownyet.  Could you talk about the different 
categories and the coding of conversations?  
   
  For an action research project I did analyze the change over time in 
teacher/student talk in regards to Dorn and Soffos' Text Talk which included 
posing questions, clarifying, elaborating, supporting thinking with evidence, 
etc... I also looked at each chain of talk and classified it as literal, 
inferencial, and evaluative to determine if thinking deepened with the use of 
text talk/students' own language which produced the same behaviors.  After each 
literature discussion we go over over Conversational Moves chart and reflect on 
our use of the moves in the wording on the chart or in their own words.  We add 
their own words to chart.  This chart has served as a scaffold in connecting 
talk.  As students take on the language/behaviors it will be less needed/taken 
down. 
   
  Anyway, I said all this to say...II'd love to know more about what you are 
thinking.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am working with two oung teachers working in outlaying schools, nearly 40 
miles away from one another, to develop an 
inquiry based unit of study that will involve 'lit cirlce discussions' that 
will be facilitated using Blackboard. Both teachers have 
small classes, children who have known each other since birth (or darn near) 
and are reluctant readers. Our hope is that a 
different approach, choice in reading and the opportunity to mix things up a 
bit in terms of grouping will help. I have been 
reading Jeff Wilhelm's new book on inquiry, which I highly recommend, and he 
discusses the skills students need to have 
meaningful discussions, actually classifying the different types of responses. 
We feel that the kids do not have the skills to 
have meanigful conversations, so I have suggested that we try something quite 
different. Having found essays and short 
stories which also support the inquiry question, I scripted discussions which 
we will model for the kids--role playing--and 
the kids will have the scripts. We will be working to help the kids code the 
conversations, moving them towards independetly 
code the discussions. I am hoping this analysis will support higher quality 
discussions online.

Lori

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:33 , Teresa Terry sent:

>Ellin,
> 
> Is there any part (chart/page) that you can release from your up and coming 
> book/presentations that would further our 
thinking??? I don't think I can wait until 2007!
> 
> As far as...to comprehend, I'm thinking that just like there are different 
> levels of understanding vocabulary, there are also 
different levels of comprehension. That is why it is only through reading, 
reflection, social interactions/discourse with peers 
and a more knowledgeable person, reflection on social interaction/discourse, 
addtional rereadings/further reading on the 
theme/subject matter, and if approriate, application in ones life, does one 
really understand.
> 
> As far and discourse prompts, I'm thinking that Linda Dorn and Carla Soffos 
> believe they are to be used as self destructing 
scaffolds. For the children that I am teaching it appears that they really lack 
experience with literate conversations. The 
transcript that follows is of a group of sixth grade, low socioeconomic, ELL 
students who were participating in a literature 
discussion group and are nearing proficency levels on our state test this is 
how a discussion began. 
> 
> The book for this discussion was When the Earth Shakes.
> 
> T- So who wants to start our conversation? 
> E- In this book it is about earthquakes, tsunamis, and what to do when an 
> earthquake hits. In the first chapter it tells you 
about, um, what the earthquakes did in California and I forgot what it is 
called but it runs through California and… 
> Ed-It said that a woman went to sleep in her bed and when she woke up she was 
> on the other side of her house. That’s 
when a man and a boy were in a car and the car just starting jumping, again, I 
didn’t know they jumped. 
> D-On p. 16 it says, “In 1985 a powerful earthquake knocked down buildings in 
> Mexico City. The epicenter was more than 
200 miles away!” I didn’t know what that means; but, I thought it was like the 
earthquake was more than 200 miles. 
> T-um-hum 
> D-Like knocked down more than 200 miles. 
> T-So, they are quite destructive, aren’t they? If they are taking people and 
> bouncing them around like you (Ed) were 
talking about and now we are finding out the epicenter is more than 200 miles 
away and they were still feeling the affects in 
Mexico City. What is an epicenter?
> Notice that after students seemed to be going around in the circle sharing 
> what the text was about rather than expanding 
upon another’s thoughts, the teacher synthesized the information and posed a 
converge

Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-21 Thread Teresa Terry
Great quesitons!!!
   
  As I read your email I began wondering:
  1.  When does being metacognitive about strategies impede the actual 
comprehension/fluency of text?
   
  I know we want our students to monitor their comprehension and use strategies 
to gain meaning; but, do we want students to be so metacognitive that they 
focus more on what their brains are doing than the text?  How do we balance 
that? 
   
  I stop and ask myself, before strategy use was spotlighted and my awareness 
of it was underground, am I a better reader today because my brain stops me in 
the middle of thought and says, "Hey, you just made an inference." or "Wow, I 
just made a movie in my mind!"  I think not.  I'm just more aware of what my 
brain is doing.  But, I often find it frustrating to read a piece of adult 
fiction and be interrupted with my brain telling  me the strategies I am using. 
 Sometimes I wish it was unconsious so my brain could use that mental energy to 
think deeper.  What do you think?  
   
  Knowing it is important for students to know how to help themselves as 
readers how do we get them to eventually become unconsious of them?  Or do we?!
   
  Working with teachers I have listened to many conversations about students 
who were unable to use certain strategies to comprehend...especially 
visualization.  I find this interesting.  I personally believe that all reader 
visualize...perhaps, just at different levels of details.  My thinking here is 
exposure...and the development/refinement of those that they do use.
   
  What do you think?
   
  Interesting thoughts, Joy!
Joy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Teresa,
I actually composed a reply earlier today, but my Internet service provider had 
it's fiber optic cable severed and we have had limited service.

Thanks for the link, I've begun reading it, and the accompanying links 
suggested by the author in an effort to grab hold of what you are talking 
about. I wonder how my class discussions would rate on this scale? One thing 
I've always thought I did well was have good discussions with my students. One 
thing I've always thought I needed improvement with was systematically 
presenting information to my students. I'm not always sure my students are 
using their metacognition to recognize the strategies they are using, although 
I can tell that they are inferring, visualizing, etc. through our discussions.

So my question is: Is it so important for them to be able to DO the strategy, 
know that they are doing it, and be able to identify what they are doing? (Or 
be able to use a strategy on demand?) Is it ok if they can do the strategy, but 
not do the rest? I know if they can do all three they have a deeper 
understanding, but for some kids this might not be possible. For example, the 
kids in my class who are identified with learning disabilities in decoding seem 
to be better at using the strategies, but not at identifying them or being able 
to do it on demand; they do it automatically!

I'm just posing these questions for discussion. I don't know what the answers 
are, but am hoping to learn more through further discussion on this list.


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Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin, when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Teresa Terry
Ellin,
   
  Is there any part (chart/page) that you can release from your up and coming 
book/presentations that would further our thinking???  I don't think I can wait 
until 2007!
   
  As far as...to comprehend, I'm thinking that just like there are different 
levels of understanding vocabulary, there are also different levels of 
comprehension.  That is why it is only through reading, reflection, social 
interactions/discourse with peers and a more knowledgeable person, reflection 
on social interaction/discourse,  addtional rereadings/further reading on the 
theme/subject matter, and if approriate, application in ones life, does one 
really understand.
   
  As far and discourse prompts, I'm thinking that Linda Dorn and Carla Soffos 
believe they are to be used as self destructing scaffolds.  For the children 
that I am teaching it appears that they really lack experience with literate 
conversations. The transcript that follows is of a group of sixth grade, low 
socioeconomic, ELL students who were participating in a literature discussion 
group and are nearing proficency levels on our state test this is how a 
discussion began. 
   
  The book for this discussion was When the Earth Shakes.

   T- So who wants to start our conversation?  
   E- In this book it is about earthquakes, tsunamis, and what to do when an 
earthquake hits.  In the first chapter it tells you about, um, what the 
earthquakes did in California and I forgot what it is called but it runs 
through California and…  
   Ed-It said that a woman went to sleep in her bed and when she woke up she 
was on the other side of her house.  That’s when a man and a boy were in a car 
and the car just starting jumping, again, I didn’t know they jumped.  
   D-On p. 16 it says, “In 1985 a powerful earthquake knocked down buildings in 
Mexico City.  The epicenter was more than 200 miles away!”  I didn’t know what 
that means; but, I thought it was like the earthquake was more than 200 miles.  
   T-um-hum  
   D-Like knocked down more than 200 miles.  
   T-So, they are quite destructive, aren’t they?  If they are taking people 
and bouncing them around like you (Ed) were talking about and now we are 
finding out the epicenter is more than 200 miles away and they were still 
feeling the affects in Mexico City.  What is an epicenter?
  Notice that after students seemed to be going around in the circle sharing 
what the text was about rather than expanding upon another’s thoughts, the 
teacher synthesized the information and posed a convergent question that she 
felt was an important vocabulary concept for the discussion. 
   
  The following portion reflects the depth of thinking throughout the majority 
of the text.  As stated before, the students seemed to share information at 
random and interrupted one another in the stream of speech.  Students were not 
using a co-constructed conversational moves chart that was hung near the 
discussion meeting place. Instead, students supported and added to another’s 
thoughts with, “It says…” “On page __” and “I think I know why.” Although a 
student shared a poorly constructed inference and activated her schemata 
concerning earthquakes, the majority of the discussion was at a literal level.  
Example 2 resents a passage that reflected the literalness of the student’s 
conversation.

   E-I think it means where the people are.  Where they have the Richter scale. 
I think it is that..  
   D- (Interrupts E) On the front cover, did the earthquake knock down half of 
the road or something like that?  
   E-It looks like a freeway.  
   T-Can it do that?  
   All-Yes.  
   E-When there is an earthquake the ground like…  
   D-(interrupts E) Shaken.  
   E-And, sometimes it separates or it makes it.  When there is a bunch of 
earthquakes the ground starts getting like…(searching for a word)…No, like, 
it’s not strong anymore. When there is another earthquake I think it …  
   F-They say the Native Americans, there were turtles that every time they 
argued they  
   E-separate
  Three weeks later, the teacher was moving towards self-regulation in her use 
to Text Talk prompts (Dorn and Soffos, 2005).  Notice that the students were 
also taking them on or were using their own language to produce discourse 
chains. 
  Zachary’s Ball

   T-(having recorded the student’s co-constructed focus questions) asks, “What 
does Zachary’s Ball have to do with dream?  Or does it?  If so, what?  
   D-I thought he was dreaming.  He said, he said, hold on…  
   M-Because his dad just gave him a ball.  Just to give it to him and he had 
dreams.  
   D-He said his ball was magic.  
   E-Yeah.  
   M-Yeah, it was magic.  
   E-And then they won their game.  
   M-Yeah, at the end when the ball disappeared supposedly he found it again.  
   E-It was confusing.  
   D-The part where he lost the baseball.  
   M-Yeah.  
   D-He says (reads) Then one day my baseball was gone…finally gave up…who took 
the ball?  
   M-Yeah,

Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-21 Thread Teresa Terry
Instructional Conversations were part of a study that was concerned with 
providing best practices with students who were from the low socioeconomic, 
limited English student. As part of this study teachers and the researchers 
taped themselves and viewed them according to the IC scale.  By using IC in 
classrooms students used learned in a social context, using language as a tool 
for applying higher order thinking skills while going deeper in text.  
   
  Here are the links below where you can read at the source:
   
   www.ncela.gwu.edu/pubs/ncrcdsll/epr2.htm 
http://www.ncela.gwu.edu/pubs/ncrcdsll/epr4.htm
   


Joy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Teresa,
Is this rating scale something that an observer uses when evaluating a teacher?



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Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-20 Thread Teresa Terry
Joy,
   
  A score of 0 or 2 is equal to the criteria given.  A score of 1 would be "in 
between".

Joy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Theresa,
Thanks for sending the Instructional Conversation Rating Scale to me. I have a 
few questions. I noticed the scale is from 0-2, and all the level 1 responses 
are blank. Can you tell me why this is?

Thanks



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Re: [MOSAIC] When do comprehension strategies become... (long)

2006-12-19 Thread Teresa Terry
Thanks Deb...I'll go out and buy it.

Deb Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I don't mean to sound like a broken 
record, but the new Fountas Pinnell
Comprehension book with CD that has video and pdf files is absolutely the
ticket to these questions. I am just now getting into it and plan to use
their new guided reading form and readers notebook after Christmas. It is
really a awesome resource.
Deb/OH/1+RR


On 12/19/06, Lisa Szyska wrote:
>
> Teresa,
> You bring up some interesting points/questions. I
> totally know what you mean about being focused
> over-much on the strategy. When I first started w/the
> strategies, I was so concerned about whether kids knew
> how to classify their connections that I was missing
> the big picture about the purpose for the connections.
> I do think, however that while students are learning
> to monitor their thinking it is appropriate for them
> to focus on a particular strategy. This helps them
> slow down to not only use the strategy, but reflect on
> how it helped them grow as a reader. Later, they
> understand that proficient readers grab strategies
> (tools) from their mental toolbox when they need it.
> (Tools are my analogy for the strategies all year.) I
> know this has been discussed at length on this
> list...strategies one at a time vs. together. One at
> a time works for me.
>
>
> I'm not sure what you (or was it the inservice
> trainer?) mean when you say "strategies become the
> reason for reading." Strategies are not the reason for
> reading; comprehension is the reason for reading, and
> the strategies are the mental heavy lifting you do to
> get to that deeper place.
>
> I am assuming that you have read Daniels' Lit Circles
> book since it sounds as you are very well-versed and
> experienced w/lit circles. Have you heard him speak
> recently? He has said that the role sheets, etc. were
> never meant to be used as some teachers use them.
> They were meant to scaffold discussions until students
> had the skills to use thier own notes, etc. to have
> the conversation. The problem isn't really w/Daniels'
> approach, it is that teachers are not always as
> reflective as you are and do not think about the real
> purpose for lit circles.
>
> I agree that adult book discussions ultimately focus
> on the deeper points, but often we start out w/our
> basic personal reactions and thoughts which
> springboard into that deeper discussion. This is a
> sophisticated skill, and I have seen ADULTS who are
> not that adept at doing this. And sometimes we adults
> get off on tangents as well. Kids do need time to
> develop their discussion skills and their thinking, so
> I think it's brilliant and important that you are
> helping your lit groups get to those meatier
> discussions. I do this as well. I also model this
> w/the whole group during read alouds. When we get off
> on tangents (off topic is what we say in class) we
> recognize it and discuss why and how to get back. I
> think too many teachers just expect this to magically
> happen as a result of lit circles, and that just isn't
> so. Modeling this deeper kind of discussion and
> helping kids get their thinking on the right track
> will lead to them thinking/discussing that way
> independently.
>
> Interesting thread, Teresa. Thanks for sharing your
> thinking.
> Lisa
> 2/3 IL
>
>
>
> --- Teresa Terry wrote:
>
> > In the past five years I have been
> > reading/implementing literature discussion in my
> > classrooms. I have in the past year moved from a
> > Daniel's approach to literature discussion where
> > students really spoke more about their
> > visualizations, connections, inferences, etc in
> > their discussions and perhaps did not always lead to
> > the deeper meaning of the book to literature
> > discussion where kids are thinking deeply about the
> > author's message and recording their
> > thinking-inferences, etc...but the conversations are
> > richer focusing in on a group chosen question or
> > two...such as for Zachary's Ball.. Does the ball
> > represent dreams? Conversations are between
> > students with me leading from behind prompting the
> > group to agree/disagreee, pose questions, elaborate,
> > clarify, and provide evidence to support their
> > thinking. It amazes me that the conversations are
> > leading to more inferential and evaluative thinking.
> >
> > And, I keep thinking about an inservice I attended
> > where the presentor asked if comprehension could be
> > taught and when do comprehension strategies become
> > the reason for reading...I have to say she l

Re: [MOSAIC] When do comprehension strategies become... (very long)

2006-12-19 Thread Teresa Terry
Lisa and others,
   
  Thank you for sharing.  You brought up good questions and thoughts.  
   
  Yes, I have been extremely fortunate in having access to training.  I have 
attended 3 or 4 session with Smokey, spent 3 days with Ellin in Denver, and 
have attended a full day session on comprehension with the likes of Debbie, 
Tony, Ellin, etc...
   
  My training as a K-3 Reading Excellence coach with literature discussion 
groups did not use the role sheets (thank goodness!) but the discussions 
heavily revolved around a summary, connections, inferences, 
visualizations.more about the strategies we were using while trying to tie 
it into how did it help you understand the story better.  My thoughts now are 
that perhaps these conversations were not where they needed to be...I'm 
wondering if it should have been more about the deeper meaning of the books. 
   
  This maybe due to the fact that I am now working with 4th-6th grade students 
and that I have read Teaching for Deeper Comprehension by Linda Dorn and Carla 
Soffos.  I am fortunate that I am in a district who subcontracts with them for 
monthly coach training.  Linda is very focused on chains of discourse whether 
it is among adults or with children.  They believe that a conversation is a 
language dance-a set of well-orchestrated moves that are regulated by the 
desire to c onstruct meaning...meaning is negotiated through the group 
interactions.  In this book, literature discussions are inquiry-driven with the 
teacher who may use, "Does anyone want to raise any questions about ___'s 
thinking here?" (clarification) or "Does anyone want to say something more 
about that?" (elaboration).  It is over time that children begin taking on the 
conversational moves (or use their own language) just as Vygotsky speaks of how 
children learn in a social context and then internalize the
 learning and use it as a tool for their own thinking.  In Linda's and Carla's 
book, they say that literature discussion consist of seven components.  First, 
of course the introduction and selection of the book with ownership and choice 
by students.  Children have been talk how to prepare for lit. groups and 
understand the guidelines for engagin in them...anchor charts are used to 
reinfoce independent learning.  The second component is silent reading of the 
text by individualsI can still see buddies though if one needs more support 
in persisting, etc... I do believe this is much better than teachers who have 
their groups read one page...I often wonder if they really concentrate by 
listening to others read/read with or if they are a few pages ahead like in 
round robin reading.  The third component is teacher conferencing.  This is a 
component that I unfortunately have left out due to the need to pull guided 
reading groups and literature groups.  Here, she suggests
 meeting with students in short conferences before  the actual lit. group.  She 
is suggesting meeting with approximately 8 students daily...and yes I'm 
thinking this would take the place of a group in a schedule because I'm 
thinking we have to have time for math/science/social studies in upper grades.  
Here, the teacher might ask, "How did the story make you feel?" Has anything 
similar to this ever happend to you?"  "What does the author mean here?"  ""How 
does the author use words to help us see what he is describing?"  and "What is 
the theme of the story?"  "What do you think the main character learnered?"  In 
conferences she prompts her students in three areas...response to story, 
questioning the author, and assessing comprehension.  Kids also use reading 
logs to track their thinking and to make reflections of their reading.  The 
fourth component is the actual lit dicussion.  Here, the teacher provides 
different levels of support as children take on responsiblity for
 talk around books.  She is sensitive to how the children are responding to one 
another and prompts them to build discourse chains within the group as I spoke 
about above.  The goal here is for students to develop analytical and 
reflective strategies for comprehending. Conversations could sound like the 
examples they give with students discussing The Story of Ruby Bridges on p.88 
of their book TDC:
   
  Taylor:  I agree with you, Marcus.  I think she opened the door for black 
kids to go to school with white kids so they could get a better education.
  Teal:  Yeah, the white kids went to the best schools.
  David:  Why do you think that, Teal?
  Teal:  Well, on the page where they are in court the author says, " The black 
children were not able to receive the same education as the white children.  It 
wasn't fair.  And it was against the nation's law.
  alexius: But, Ruby kept going and that changed our schools.  I love her for 
that.
  Matthew:  I was wondering why the whites were so mean and did not want her to 
go to their school.
   
  The fifth component is a peer discussions where kids continue to talk w

Re: [MOSAIC] When do comprehension strategies become the reason forreading?

2006-12-18 Thread Teresa Terry
In the past five years I have been reading/implementing literature discussion 
in my classrooms.  I have in the past year moved from a Daniel's approach to 
literature discussion where students really spoke more about their 
visualizations, connections, inferences, etc in their discussions and perhaps 
did not always lead to the deeper meaning of the book to literature discussion 
where kids are thinking deeply about the author's message and recording their 
thinking-inferences, etc...but the conversations are richer focusing in on a 
group chosen question or two...such as for Zachary's Ball.. Does the ball 
represent dreams?   Conversations are between students with me leading from 
behind prompting the group to agree/disagreee, pose questions, elaborate, 
clarify, and provide evidence to support their thinking.  It amazes me that the 
conversations are leading to more inferential and evaluative thinking.
   
  And, I keep thinking about an inservice I attended where the presentor asked 
if comprehension could be taught and when do comprehension strategies become 
the reason for reading...I have to say she left me with lots to toss over in my 
mind. 
   
  I feel that I have finally gotten to a place where I can see that I was too 
focused on the strategy and neglected the real reason for book discussions...it 
is about understanding=going deeper.  I have not ever attended a book 
discussion where a group of women tossed out connections and inferences in bits 
and pieces and did not focus on the deeper meanings/purposes that the author 
wanted to stir within us.
   
  I would love to hear your thoughts.  

Laura Klug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  If you keep in mind what adult independent readers look like , I think
it is easier to see how we can support children in getting there. The
strategies are a way to help children get to the point where they can
self-select based on interest and need, where they know when their
comprehension breaks down ( as it does for all of us at times ) and
what to do about that and when they automatically make connections and
read beyond the text to take the meaning that they need and want from
what they are reading. All of the strategies are aids along the way to
help them construct meaning. Gradually, those supports become more
integrated into their thinking.

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I think the strategies are meant as a way to scaffold the discussion,
not the reason for the discussion.



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[MOSAIC] When do comprehension strategies become the reason for reading?

2006-12-17 Thread Teresa Terry
I have been studying and implementing literature discussions using the 
Instructional Conversation checklist and Linda Dorn's Supporting Text Talk.  
This has been a move for me in my understanding for literature discussion per 
Daniels and Reading Excellence/Reading First.  It seemed that before student 
discussed and shared their use of comprehension strategies as oppossed to 
really digging deeper in the text.  
   
  Having grown in my understanding of literature discussions per Linda Dorn and 
Carla Soffos' Teaching for Deeper Comprehension, I would like for others to 
talk about how their literature discussion look/sound?  
   
  I really want to think deeply about the dialogue that one should hear if 
students were talking deeply about the text.  And, I wondering when 
comprehension strategies become the reason for reading and discussing books?
   
   
  Teresa T.

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Re: [MOSAIC] attention span

2006-12-09 Thread Teresa Terry
Have you read A Mind at a Time by Mel Levine?  This is another book that made 
me think differently.

Carrie Cahill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Does anyone out there have any 
suggestions for helping 2nd graders
develop longer attention spans for group work and read alouds? I feel
confident that the books I'm choosing have meaty and interesting content
for the students, but I still feel the attention of some is so short! I
know Ellin Keene talked in MOT about engaging the students - and the
fact that they need to be aware of the NEED to be engaged. Maybe that's
the problem - they don't know they even need to be engaged?



Carrie: K-8



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Re: [MOSAIC] the power of modeling

2006-12-09 Thread Teresa Terry
Have you seen Linda Dorn's and Carla Soffos' Teaching for Deeper Comprehension? 
It is awesome!  Chapter 7 is about literature discussions. It comes with a DVD 
featuring literature discussions with an upper grade classes and even adult 
lit. discussions.  
   
  I believe it is worth the $20ish I spent...she and Carla are amazing!  
   
  Arkansas is lucky to have these ladies leading our state in developing a 
literacy vision and a path to a conceptual depth of knowledge among teachers. 
   
  If you haven't ever purchased one of their books...I'm thinking you'll want 
them all about you read this one!
gina nunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  My kids are having some of the best literature circle discussions I have 
ever seen, and this year's kids actually struggle more than in the past. 
The one thing I did differently was to model one for them. Two teachers and 
myself used the last chapters of a book the class had just finished to 
conduct a lit circle. We modeled all the good stuff we wanted to see and 
had the kids observe and record...

Good literature circles "Look like" and "Sound like"

All three of us were impressed with the obvious and not so obvious behaviors 
the kids picked up on.

Their first book club meeting was exciting to watch. Gina

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