Re: Hotlist window issue
On 28 Aug 2023 as I do recall, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 11:37:26PM +0100, Harriet Bazley wrote: > > I've just noticed that the same thing applies to the global history > > window - if I check that in WinEd, the history window in the Templates > > file has *neither* 'Allow off screen' nor 'Keep on screen' flags set. > > Both of these use the "tree" template, whose source can be found here: > > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/frontends/riscos/templates/en#n2605 Thanks for the pointer - I've spent a lot of time fiddling around with the settings of those two flags in !NetSurf.Resources.en.Templates.tree, and so far as I can tell the only setting that can prevent the window from resizing itself off the bottom of the screen is to have 'Keep on screen' (bit 13) ON and 'Allow off screen' (bit 6) OFF. Which is rather more stringent than actually desirable, because it then makes it impossible for any part of that window ever to be outside the screen ever, which is *not* normal Wimp behaviour, but it's the only combination of flags that appears to produce the desired result of jumping up to the top of the screen to use the maximum visible area when the size is toggled. I can only assume that the 'standard' RISC OS behaviour (as displayed by NetSurf's main browser window for instance) of forcing the window onscreen when the user requests a toggle to maximum size, but permitting it to be dragged partially offscreen thereafter, requires some kind of application redraw rather than being handled entirely by the WIMP? -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == A poor workman blames his tools. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Hotlist window issue
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 11:37:26PM +0100, Harriet Bazley wrote: > I've just noticed that the same thing applies to the global history > window - if I check that in WinEd, the history window in the Templates > file has *neither* 'Allow off screen' nor 'Keep on screen' flags set. Both of these use the "tree" template, whose source can be found here: http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/frontends/riscos/templates/en#n2605 (And similar in the other languages.) B. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Hotlist window issue
On 27 Aug 2023 as I do recall, Christian Ludlam wrote: > > > On 27 Aug 2023, at 22:42, Harriet Bazley wrote: > > > > On 27 Aug 2023 as I do recall, > > Frederick Bambrough wrote: > > > >> Is this a known bug? > >> > >> Hotlist ignores 'Allow windows off screen' configuration settings when > >> 'off screen' is disallowed. It moves freely off screen in all directions > >> except 'top' where it stops with the top edge of the title bar off screen. > >> > >> Other NetSurf windows do as expected. [snip] > > The hotlist simply expands downwards from its current position, which > > causes the resize icon and bottom scroll arrow to disappear off the > > bottom of the screen, which under RISC OS means that you *can't* then > > resize it manually to make the bottom items accessible again…. > > > > I think both problems are controlled by bit 6 of the window flags - if you > have a template editor you may be able to fix this. I've just noticed that the same thing applies to the global history window - if I check that in WinEd, the history window in the Templates file has *neither* 'Allow off screen' nor 'Keep on screen' flags set. These two are confusing: https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/11/topics/17817#posts-139923 ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Hotlist window issue
> On 27 Aug 2023, at 22:42, Harriet Bazley wrote: > > On 27 Aug 2023 as I do recall, > Frederick Bambrough wrote: > >> Is this a known bug? >> >> Hotlist ignores 'Allow windows off screen' configuration settings when >> 'off screen' is disallowed. It moves freely off screen in all directions >> except 'top' where it stops with the top edge of the title bar off screen. >> >> Other NetSurf windows do as expected. >> > I reported an offscreen-hotlist-related window issue back in 2021. It > has never been acknowledged, let alone confirmed or resolved (and it's > still present, and as annoying as ever). > https://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2831 > > Its is not normal RISC OS behaviour for the 'toggle window size' icon to > expand the window *beyond the edge of the screen*, whatever the 'Allow > windows off screen' configuration is, and indeed other NetSurf windows > behave as expected - you can drag them manually so that portions are > off-screen, but as soon as you toggle the size they expand to the > largest possible size that will fit on the screen (moving to the top of > the screen if necessary in order to fit in the maxmimum-size window) but > no larger. > > The hotlist simply expands downwards from its current position, which > causes the resize icon and bottom scroll arrow to disappear off the > bottom of the screen, which under RISC OS means that you *can't* then > resize it manually to make the bottom items accessible again…. > I think both problems are controlled by bit 6 of the window flags - if you have a template editor you may be able to fix this. Christian ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Hotlist window issue
On 27 Aug 2023 as I do recall, Frederick Bambrough wrote: > Is this a known bug? > > Hotlist ignores 'Allow windows off screen' configuration settings when > 'off screen' is disallowed. It moves freely off screen in all directions > except 'top' where it stops with the top edge of the title bar off screen. > > Other NetSurf windows do as expected. > I reported an offscreen-hotlist-related window issue back in 2021. It has never been acknowledged, let alone confirmed or resolved (and it's still present, and as annoying as ever). https://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2831 Its is not normal RISC OS behaviour for the 'toggle window size' icon to expand the window *beyond the edge of the screen*, whatever the 'Allow windows off screen' configuration is, and indeed other NetSurf windows behave as expected - you can drag them manually so that portions are off-screen, but as soon as you toggle the size they expand to the largest possible size that will fit on the screen (moving to the top of the screen if necessary in order to fit in the maxmimum-size window) but no larger. The hotlist simply expands downwards from its current position, which causes the resize icon and bottom scroll arrow to disappear off the bottom of the screen, which under RISC OS means that you *can't* then resize it manually to make the bottom items accessible again -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == The best way to keep your friends is not to give them away. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Hotlist editing
On 29 Sep 2013 as I do recall, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <6f29e49253.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, >Harriet Bazley wrote: > > > It is (as of at least v1356, and currently in v1359) no longer possible > > to edit/manually update the URLs in a hotlist, something which I used do > > on a regular basis. > > Alt+Click? It should behave like the filer. > Ah, that works, yes. :-) It's just the actual visible 'Edit' function on the menu that has changed, then. -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == We are not punished for our sins, but by them.
Re: Hotlist editing
In article <6f29e49253.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley wrote: > It is (as of at least v1356, and currently in v1359) no longer possible > to edit/manually update the URLs in a hotlist, something which I used do > on a regular basis. Alt+Click? It should behave like the filer. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <0039c5d3.01dc65003...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > I fixed mine in the choices file: > sys_colour_Window:ff Changing just one colour is a *really bad thing to do*. For example you'll find that scrollbars (frames & textareas) are still black. As I said in the "Options/Choices refactor" thread, the recommended fix is to delete old Choices files, as doing this has other benefits. Also, NetSurf has just been fixed to reset all colour values to their defaults if they are all black. If you just change one colour, it won't be able to detect this problem and reset them for you. BTW, you can see the colours (and all the other current settings) by visiting about:config in NetSurf. It also indicates whether you are using a default setting, or if you have modified a Choices value. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <0039c5d3.01dc65003...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > I fixed mine in the choices file: > sys_colour_Window:ff > Peter I find that a bit hard on my eyes, so use dd instead (Very light grey). Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <53531ae9e1ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, cj wrote: > In article <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com>, >Dave Higton wrote: > > The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201. CI1212 and CI1219 display > > the hotlist as black on black. RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB. > > Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again. > > I'll put in a bug report. > Have you tried deleting your Choices file, as per suggestions in > other threads? As someone also getting the same problem, I did just that, and thereafter it was okay. However, I'm using two versions of NetSurf, the latest and an older version, when I re-use the older version, then later go to the latest version the Hotlist is back to Black. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist display illegible
On 29 May 2013 01:17, Chris Newman wrote: > In article <0039c5d3.01dc65003...@smtp.freeola.net>, >> I fixed mine in the choices file: >> sys_colour_Window:ff > That worked although I have no idea quite what the arcane 6 fs actually do. It's a hexadecimal value meaning white (in this context). Cheers, JFL -- Jean-François Lemaire
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <0039c5d3.01dc65003...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > > > >Message: 10 > >Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 21:51:41 +0100 > >From: Dave Higton > >Subject: Hotlist display illegible > >To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org > >Message-ID: <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com> > > > >The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201. CI1212 and CI1219 display > >the hotlist as black on black. RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB. > >Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again. > > > >I'll put in a bug report. > > > >Dave > I fixed mine in the choices file: > sys_colour_Window:ff That worked although I have no idea quite what the arcane 6 fs actually do. Hotlist window now has black text on a white ground. Wasn't the background blue or grey at one time? Oh well. 50 shades of grey will do. Many thanks, -- Chris
Re: Hotlist display illegible
> >Message: 10 >Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 21:51:41 +0100 >From: Dave Higton >Subject: Hotlist display illegible >To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org >Message-ID: <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com> > >The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201. CI1212 and CI1219 display >the hotlist as black on black. RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB. >Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again. > >I'll put in a bug report. > >Dave I fixed mine in the choices file: sys_colour_Window:ff Peter
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201. CI1212 and CI1219 display > the hotlist as black on black. RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB. > Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again. #1222 still black here. -- Chris
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201. CI1212 and CI1219 display > the hotlist as black on black. RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB. > Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again. > I'll put in a bug report. Have you tried deleting your Choices file, as per suggestions in other threads? -- Chris Johnson
Re: Hotlist on RISCOS
In article <5306d264c4d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > And you'll be lucky if you hit the spot (Once in a blue moon). The > receptive bit for the D&D must be about one or two pixels in size, and > don't ever bother if the Directory is at the bottom of the window, > you'll never get it in. It would make a lot of sense if a directory could be clicked on to activate it (open directory icon) so that it could be filled. Adding to an empty directory is indeed chancey. -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more!
Re: Hotlist on RISCOS
In article , Tony Moore wrote: > On 31 Dec 2012, "Gerald Dodson" wrote: > > I often have trouble re-arranging the Hotlist. In particular grouping > > items into a directory. At the moment I have a new directory into > > which I have been trying to place a number of items not currently in a > > directory. > Drag the selected items to the _lower_ half of the directory icon. > Tony And you'll be lucky if you hit the spot (Once in a blue moon). The receptive bit for the D&D must be about one or two pixels in size, and don't ever bother if the Directory is at the bottom of the window, you'll never get it in. Yes I know, drag it (Directory) up the window... Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist on RISCOS
On 31 Dec 2012, "Gerald Dodson" wrote: > I often have trouble re-arranging the Hotlist. In particular grouping > items into a directory. At the moment I have a new directory into > which I have been trying to place a number of items not currently in a > directory. Drag the selected items to the _lower_ half of the directory icon. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 as I do recall, Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012, Michael Drake wrote: > > In article <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, > >Harriet Bazley wrote: > > > > > Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my > > > NetSurf hotlist > > > > The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. > > > > Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed > > to handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the > > first entry to contain an "unusual" character. > > Looking at the Hotlist files posted by Richard Torrens, the entry which > caused the truncation was (on one line): > >http://www.vivastreet.co.uk/east-anglia";> >••▷ East Anglia Free ads, East Anglia classifieds, >East Anglia FREE CLASSIFIED ADS, 450,000+ free classifieds in the >UK Ah, and the one from the list I reported is http://elegantmusings.com/";>Casey’s Elegant Musings So the problem is caused by adding webpages with UTF characters in the title to your hotlist (and not editing the default title - which I normally do, but in this case didn't) -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, >Harriet Bazley wrote: > > > Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my > > NetSurf hotlist > > The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. > > Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed > to handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the > first entry to contain an "unusual" character. Looking at the Hotlist files posted by Richard Torrens, the entry which caused the truncation was (on one line): http://www.vivastreet.co.uk/east-anglia";> ••▷ East Anglia Free ads, East Anglia classifieds, East Anglia FREE CLASSIFIED ADS, 450,000+ free classifieds in the UK A possible temporary workaround would be to edit each title, in the Hotlist window, to remove 'unusual' characters - in this case ••▷ - before quitting NetSurf (so saving the file). Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, >Harriet Bazley wrote: >> Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my >> NetSurf hotlist > The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. > Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed to > handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the first > entry to contain an "unusual" character. > The beep is because NetSurf opens a warning dialogue box to report the > problem, although since it is quitting, you won't get a chance to see it > before NetSurf quits. > In article <8f7cb4f252.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, >Peter Young wrote: >> What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu >> over the history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar >> icon. > That's the same problem. The warning mentions the hotlist because global > history and hotlist share the same code for saving. Thanks for the explanation. I imagine it's being worked on, so I will be patient. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley wrote: > Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my > NetSurf hotlist The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed to handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the first entry to contain an "unusual" character. The beep is because NetSurf opens a warning dialogue box to report the problem, although since it is quitting, you won't get a chance to see it before NetSurf quits. In article <8f7cb4f252.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu > over the history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar > icon. That's the same problem. The warning mentions the hotlist because global history and hotlist share the same code for saving. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:59:21PM +0100, John Williams wrote: [snip] > > Would it be possible to have once again something like the old > > builds page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too > > much unproductive work? > > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/job/netsurf/BUILD_JS=jsoff,CC=gcc,TARGET=riscos,label=arm-unknown-riscos/ > > The list of builds down the left hand side has links to a details page > for each, which includes the change messages for the commits included > in that build, with links to diffs on the cgit revision viewer. At present, the earliest build available on that page is #641. How is it possible to access earlier builds? I wish to identify the build in which https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3579166&group_id=51719&atid=464312 first occurred. This lies between #417 and #461. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: [snip] > It gets even odder. I tried today to do something I've done many times > before, so that I could search the global history. What I do is to > open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the > history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. > This opens the hotlist in HTML, and you can then use the search > option. Today, when I got to the stage of dragging the icon to the > icon bar I get the weird error message "Unable to save the hotlist", > (yes, hotlist!) with a beep, but NetSurf doesn't crash. I have the > logfile, and will report this on the bug-tracker, in the hope that > this possibly might shed some light on what's going on. I tried to add a comment to the bug report, and got a page saying "XSRF Attempt Detected!". What am I doing wrong? I tried to correct the wording of the error message, which is "The hotlist was unable to be saved properly". From what I can see, the already truncated hotlist seem to be intact, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article <20121122170227.gu3...@pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > > Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds > > page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much > > unproductive work? Sorry - Pluto breaks link! See Message-ID: <20121122170227.gu3...@pepperfish.net> > The list of builds down the left hand side has links to a details page > for each, which includes the change messages for the commits included in > that build, with links to diffs on the cgit revision viewer. Thanks! John
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:59:21PM +0100, John Williams wrote: > In article <20121122110116.GF3366@somnambulist.local>, Daniel Silverstone > wrote: > > > > What was the first #number of this change? > > > I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend though, so > > you should be able to trace it. > > Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds page > detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much unproductive > work? http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/job/netsurf/BUILD_JS=jsoff,CC=gcc,TARGET=riscos,label=arm-unknown-riscos/ The list of builds down the left hand side has links to a details page for each, which includes the change messages for the commits included in that build, with links to diffs on the cgit revision viewer. B.
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article <20121122110116.GF3366@somnambulist.local>, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > > What was the first #number of this change? > I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend though, so > you should be able to trace it. Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much unproductive work? John
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: > [snip] >> Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the >> file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, >> at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all >> computers sees this message :-) > That happened sooner than I expected! I imported a 32K hotlist from > the backup of the late Iyo, and ran NetSurf, and then quitted it. > There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly became 8K. Is it something to do > with the size of the hotlist perhaps? > Looking back, I have had a couple of unexplained bleeps when shutting > down the machine, and I now know why! It gets even odder. I tried today to do something I've done many times before, so that I could search the global history. What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the history > History > Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. This opens the hotlist in HTML, and you can then use the search option. Today, when I got to the stage of dragging the icon to the icon bar I get the weird error message "Unable to save the hotlist", (yes, hotlist!) with a beep, but NetSurf doesn't crash. I have the logfile, and will report this on the bug-tracker, in the hope that this possibly might shed some light on what's going on. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012, cj wrote: > > > With #665 on the Iyonix (5.19, 7 Nov 2012) the truncation is still > > occurring when NetSurf is quit. The file I am using to test is > > shortened from 24K to 10K. > > I've now checked #600 and #659 with RO5.19 (29-Oct-12), running on > RPCEmu v0.8.9. The results were identical to those for RO6.20, reported > earlier, ie no truncation with a 90K file. Now I'm up to date: using #665 with RO5.19 (29-Oct-12), running on RPCEmu v0.8.9, and with RO6.20 running on a SARPC, here there is still no truncation of a 90K Hotlist file, when NetSurf is quit. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Peter Young wrote: [snip] > I imported a 32K hotlist from the backup of the late Iyo, and ran > NetSurf, and then quitted it. There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly > became 8K. Is it something to do with the size of the hotlist perhaps? No problem here, with a 90K Hotlist file. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, cj wrote: > With #665 on the Iyonix (5.19, 7 Nov 2012) the truncation is still > occurring when NetSurf is quit. The file I am using to test is > shortened from 24K to 10K. I've now checked #600 and #659 with RO5.19 (29-Oct-12), running on RPCEmu v0.8.9. The results were identical to those for RO6.20, reported earlier, ie no truncation with a 90K file. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
With #665 on the Iyonix (5.19, 7 Nov 2012) the truncation is still occurring when NetSurf is quit. The file I am using to test is shortened from 24K to 10K. -- Chris Johnson
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young wrote: [snip] > Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the > file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, > at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all > computers sees this message :-) That happened sooner than I expected! I imported a 32K hotlist from the backup of the late Iyo, and ran NetSurf, and then quitted it. There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly became 8K. Is it something to do with the size of the hotlist perhaps? Looking back, I have had a couple of unexplained bleeps when shutting down the machine, and I now know why! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43:24AM +, Tony Moore wrote: >>> On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone >>> wrote: We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, >>> What was the first #number of this change? >> >> I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend > That, I believe, was 3-4 Nov 2012. > Using RO6.20: > When quitting NetSurf #600 (5 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my > Hotlist as a 90K file. > When quitting NetSurf #659 (18 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my > Hotlist as an 89K file. > The difference in file-lengths seems to be caused by #600 writing & > whereas #659 writes & , however I can't persuade either NetSurf version > to truncate the Hotlist. Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all computers sees this message :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article , David Pitt wrote: > FWIW I note the Hotlist generated by #665 is missing the > tag. OTOH I have not seen the Hotlist get truncated yet. Having now checked on both Iyonix and ARMini, both hotlists are truncated. Since I 'auto-upgrade' NetSurf very regularly (at least daily), and only keep the last 3 versions I have no idea when it started. I never noticed before, since my most frequented sites are at the top of the list, so probably haven't needed to scroll down the list for maybe weeks. -- Chris Johnson
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43:24AM +, Tony Moore wrote: > > On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone > > wrote: > > > We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, > > What was the first #number of this change? > > I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend That, I believe, was 3-4 Nov 2012. Using RO6.20: When quitting NetSurf #600 (5 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my Hotlist as a 90K file. When quitting NetSurf #659 (18 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my Hotlist as an 89K file. The difference in file-lengths seems to be caused by #600 writing & whereas #659 writes & , however I can't persuade either NetSurf version to truncate the Hotlist. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article , Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > In article <20121122083649.GA3366@somnambulist.local>, >Daniel Silverstone wrote: > > If any of you had backups of your hotlist from before NetSurf seems to > > have lost entries, you could use copies of those backups to do the > > test. If the problem manifests repeatably, then copies of the > > offending hotlists would go a long way to helping us diagnose and fix > > the fault. > It's a saving issue. Just closed Netsurf and watched the file shrink from > 16K to 552 bytes. > Both attached Should have said this is with 3.0 (Dev CI #656) -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more!
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43:24AM +, Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > [snip] > > We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, > What was the first #number of this change? I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend though, so you should be able to trace it. D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone wrote: [snip] > We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, What was the first #number of this change? Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
Daniel Silverstone, on 22 Nov, wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:16:26AM +, Peter Young wrote: > > > > Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? > > > Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( Looking at the Hotlist > > > file it is not corrupted, the html is perfectly formed, it's just > > > missing all but the first 35ish entries. > > And have had that recently happen here, too. > > It would be massively helpful if people seeing this behaviour could > attempt to determine if this is a loading or saving issue -- This can be > done by editing the file in Zap or StrongEd and then starting NetSurf > before looking in the NetSurf hotlist window to see if the added items are > visible, and then quitting NetSurf and seeing if they get saved back out > to the hostlist file. > > We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, so any hints are gratefully > received. FWIW I note the Hotlist generated by #665 is missing the tag. OTOH I have not seen the Hotlist get truncated yet. -- David Pitt
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article <20121122083649.GA3366@somnambulist.local>, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > If any of you had backups of your hotlist from before NetSurf seems to have > lost entries, you could use copies of those backups to do the test. If the > problem manifests repeatably, then copies of the offending hotlists would go a > long way to helping us diagnose and fix the fault. It's a saving issue. Just closed Netsurf and watched the file shrink from 16K to 552 bytes. Both attached -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! Title: NetSurf hotlist Buy/Sell FreeAds Burwell Preloved | used latex for sale UK and Ireland Free Classified Ads . Classifieds . Property, Jobs, Motors, Personals... ••▷ East Anglia Free ads, East Anglia classifieds, East Anglia FREE CLASSIFIED ADS, 450,000+ free classifieds in the UK Gumtree - Cambridge craigslist: cambridge, UK classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events Welcome to the Camlets Home Page eFreeko, recycling the planet - Home Page hififorsale.com's AudiophileCandy Canon: Ace Cameras For Best Deals On Used Cameras, Lenses, Accessories, Scopes, Binoculars, Eyepieces and Astronomical Equipment. Digital Camera Magazine Classifieds Gumtree.com - Gloucester Classifieds Computing gEDA Project Homepage pdf2gerb: Convert PDF to Gerber and NC Drill formats « scattershot genius; Vutrax Electronics CAD - Off-site Links Perlmasters Perl Script and CGI Script Resource Site Perl CPAN RISC OS 32 Bit Conversions David Pilling :: Home : RISC OS Dave Higton's home page SiteMatch RISC OS Web Site Synchroniser Google Directory - Computers > Systems > RISC OS > Software > Monitor Definition Files IYONIX pc RISCOS Ltd RISC OS Knowledgebase RISC OS Select - Private - News RISCOS.org : Support - !Boot Structure Recommended software - RISCOS BBC - h2g2 - RISC OS Computers John's HTML Tutors ZFC Guides Avisoft Home Page Tests etc IANA — Root Zone Database Test Your Firewall The W3C Markup Validation Service Unix CGI - perldoc.perl.org demime - A tool to scrub mime from mailing lists Pure-FTPd - About Stripmime Electronics AVR EAsm homepage Semiconductors == Diodes == Soldering LF-1000 TIPS BOSS Enclosures Dancap Electronics Home Page - Official Hakko Distributor for the UK and Northern Ireland Kaisertech, hot air rework, fume extraction, dummy components. Rampantapathy : - Cart contents Welcome to STMicroelectronics SuperMagnete.de - The Strongest Magnets in the World Food Food From Britain http://www.justsolutions.eu/CamFruit/displayGrowers.asp Spice Pages: Coconut (Cocos nucifera) Spice Pages: Coconut (Cocos nucifera) Welcome to Rick Stein's Seafood Restaurant, Accommodation & Cookery School - Rick Stein Genealogy Stoke Ferry Dr Henry Linhook Helsham of Stoke Ferry, Norfolk (1767-1806) Dr Robert Harvey (1700-1756) of Stoke Ferry, Norfolk, England. Stoke Ferry - White's 1854 GENUKI: Norfolk: Genealogy: Towns and Parishes: Stoke Ferry GENUKI: Norfolk: Genealogy: Towns and Parishes: Stoke Ferry: Coates: Names Holidays Camp Sites and Caravan Parks in England An extensive caravan parks and sites directory, a portal for caravan sales and rental, and a comprehensive on-line guide to caravan, mobile home, motorhome, tent, trailer tent and cabin holidays :: Caravan Sitefinder UK Defra, UK - Rural Affairs Paws For a Walk - The Dog Friendly Website Holiday Accommodation Dog & Pet Friendly Cottages Caravans B&B Hotels Pet friendly dogs welcome self-catering country cottages and holiday cottages Cotswolds Holiday Accommodation Dog & Pet Friendly Cottages Caravans B&B Hotels Forest of Dean Evans Holidays Royal Forest of Dean, Herefordshire and Monmouthshire Dog Friendly Accommodation Holiday accommodation in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire Cottages Wye Valley Forest of Dean accommodation self catering Lincolnshire Lincolnshire Walks - Lincolnshire County Council Norfolk The Brecks, Norfolk – Places to Stay, Visit, Eat and Drink in the Brecks Nottingham Homepage Music BBC - Radio 3 Index of /2ndhand/ Natural history Animals Cats Cat Rescue and Rehoming - Siamese Cat Club Welfare Trust SpringerLink - Journal Article FAB Home Page Mr. Lee CatCam Fish Aquariumlife.net - Aquarium articles, forums, DIY projects, tools Species - ARKive Plants Flower seeds Vegetable seed Grass seed, Garden Sundries Latin name index P - Plants For A Future database report Plants For A Future - 7000 useful plants PFAF Database Search Thomas Etty Esq. - Heritage Vegetable Seeds Novelty Tropical Seeds Invasive non-native plants http://www.fruitipedia.com/ NetSurf NetSurf homepage NetSurf test builds Photography Advanced Camera Services Canon EOS Beginners' FAQ III - Lenses Canon EOS Beginners' FAQ III - Lenses photo.net - photo.net Searches Search for People, Businesses and Places - 192.com Route Planner (GB) : Routes, maps and directions - The AA AltaVista - Babel Fish Translat
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:16:26AM +, Peter Young wrote: > >> Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? > > Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( > > Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is > > perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish > > entries. > And have had that recently happen here, too. It would be massively helpful if people seeing this behaviour could attempt to determine if this is a loading or saving issue -- This can be done by editing the file in Zap or StrongEd and then starting NetSurf before looking in the NetSurf hotlist window to see if the added items are visible, and then quitting NetSurf and seeing if they get saved back out to the hostlist file. We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, so any hints are gratefully received. If any of you had backups of your hotlist from before NetSurf seems to have lost entries, you could use copies of those backups to do the test. If the problem manifests repeatably, then copies of the offending hotlists would go a long way to helping us diagnose and fix the fault. Many thanks, Daniel. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Bryan Hogan wrote: > In message <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk> > Harriet Bazley wrote: >> Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? > Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( > Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is > perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish > entries. And have had that recently happen here, too. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In message <60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk> Harriet Bazley wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish entries. Bryan. -- RISC OS User Group Of London - http://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/ RISC OS London Show - http://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/
Re: Hotlist
On 1 Jul, Dave Symes wrote in message <52a88f4e59d...@triffid.co.uk>: > In article , >Nick Roberts wrote: > > [Snippy] > > > Check the preferences - General group, 'Add URLs to main book'. > > > If this is ticked, BookMaker will put add any new URLs at the botton of > > the hotlist. > > > If it isn't, adding a URL will put up a menu of folders to choose from. > > It is not ticked, no Menu of folders arrives, and the URL is added to the > main book. Nick's talking about BookMaker; you're talking about NetSurf's inbuilt hotlist. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
Re: Hotlist
In article , Nick Roberts wrote: [Snippy] > Check the preferences - General group, 'Add URLs to main book'. > If this is ticked, BookMaker will put add any new URLs at the botton of > the hotlist. > If it isn't, adding a URL will put up a menu of folders to choose from. It is not ticked, no Menu of folders arrives, and the URL is added to the main book. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In message <52a7994e9acvj...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman wrote: > In article <52a78e014dd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > wrote: > > In article <52a75401a9stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists > > wrote: > > > In article <52a7433e91d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > > > wrote: > > > > > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. > > > > > Thank you Stuart. > > > > > She doesn't. > > > > Sorry, should have been more clear. My suggestion is to use > > > !BookMaker. > > > > With !BookMaker running and boxes created, when I click "Add to > > > hotlist", I get a list of the boxes in !BookMaker I can choose to > > > add to. > > > We used to use Bookmaker a lot, but we stopped using Bookmaker > > because it didn't interface with NetSurf. > > > I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as > > when I Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it > > goes in, it just puts it in the default place. > > Here, it puts it at the bottom of the list of folders. I then open > the appropriate folder & drag the file up to it. Only takes a few > seconds. Check the preferences - General group, 'Add URLs to main book'. If this is ticked, BookMaker will put add any new URLs at the botton of the hotlist. If it isn't, adding a URL will put up a menu of folders to choose from. -- Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a78e014dd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <52a75401a9stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists > wrote: > > In article <52a7433e91d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > > wrote: > > > > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. > > > Thank you Stuart. > > > She doesn't. > > Sorry, should have been more clear. My suggestion is to use !BookMaker. > > With !BookMaker running and boxes created, when I click "Add to hotlist", > > I get a list of the boxes in !BookMaker I can choose to add to. > We used to use Bookmaker a lot, but we stopped using Bookmaker because it > didn't interface with NetSurf. > I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when I > Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it just > puts it in the default place. Here, it puts it at the bottom of the list of folders. I then open the appropriate folder & drag the file up to it. Only takes a few seconds. Cheers, -- Chris
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a7909659stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > In article <52a78e014dd...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when > > I Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it > > just puts it in the default place. > I do here, have you got the latest version - 2.15 Yes. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a78e014dd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when I > Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it just > puts it in the default place. I do here, have you got the latest version - 2.15 -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a75401a9stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > In article <52a7433e91d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. > > Thank you Stuart. > > She doesn't. > Sorry, should have been more clear. My suggestion is to use !BookMaker. > With !BookMaker running and boxes created, when I click "Add to hotlist", > I get a list of the boxes in !BookMaker I can choose to add to. We used to use Bookmaker a lot, but we stopped using Bookmaker because it didn't interface with NetSurf. I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when I Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it just puts it in the default place. Anyway, it appears She's sorted and has no intention of doing anything other. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
On 29 Jun 2012, Bryn Evans wrote: > In a mad moment - Dave Symes mumbled : [snip] > > Problem is... She can't drag anything to the bottom of the list > > where the directory resides, it is totally unreachable, any part of > > the icon. > > > By getting her to drag the directory up the list a few spaces, it > > becomes reachable. > > I noticed this behaviour when the Hotlist was first introduced, and > discovered the same workaround. The problem appeared some time between 2.6 (21st September 2010), which is ok, and 2.7 (7th April 2011), which is not ok (sorry that I cannot be more precise). It seems to be caused by the position of the pointer on the bounding box which represents the objects being moved. The pointer is at the top left of the box, which is higher than one line, in the Hotlist window. Thus the pointer cannot reach the bottom line. Previously, the objects to be dragged were represented by a transparent icon, which didn't restrict the movement of the pointer. Tony
Re: Hotlist
In a mad moment - Dave Symes mumbled : > In article <52a711c566t...@netsurf-browser.org>, >Michael Drake wrote: >> In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, >>Dave Symes wrote: >>> How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her >>> directories? >>>From the user guide: [snip] >> -- http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#Hotlist > Indeed, thanks > Problem is... She can't drag anything to the bottom of the list where the > directory resides, it is totally unreachable, any part of the icon. > By getting her to drag the directory up the list a few spaces, it becomes > reachable. I noticed this behaviour when the Hotlist was first introduced, and discovered the same workaround. Thinking about it, there would seem to be some advantage if the creation of new Directories took place at the head of the list. (ducks and dons flame proof coat) -- |)[ |)ryn [vansmail to - brynev...@bryork.freeuk.com
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a7433e91d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. > Thank you Stuart. > She doesn't. Sorry, should have been more clear. My suggestion is to use !BookMaker. With !BookMaker running and boxes created, when I click "Add to hotlist", I get a list of the boxes in !BookMaker I can choose to add to. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a716f93astuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her > > Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't > > get anything to go into those directories. > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. Thank you Stuart. She doesn't. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her > Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't > get anything to go into those directories. I use !Bookmaker, works fine. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a711c566t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > directories? > >From the user guide: > "As with filer windows, selections can be made by dragging selection > boxes and adjust clicking can be used to add or remove items from the > selection. Selections can then be dragged and dropped within the > hotlist management window to move them around. It is possible to drop > a selection into a closed directory by releasing it over the bottom > half of the target directory. Dropping the selection over the top half > of a directory or address will insert the selection above that item. > Finally, dropping a selection over the lower half of an address will > move it below the address." > -- http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#Hotlist Indeed, thanks Problem is... She can't drag anything to the bottom of the list where the directory resides, it is totally unreachable, any part of the icon. By getting her to drag the directory up the list a few spaces, it becomes reachable. Dave FWIW. I've tried this on my install of NS with the same result. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <62f511a752.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore wrote: > On 28 Jun 2012, Brian Howlett wrote: > > On 28 Jun, Dave Symes wrote: > [snip] > > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > > directories? > > > > Drag 'n' drop seems to work... > You need to drop the selection on the _lower+ half of a directory icon, > otherwise the selection is moved to the space above the directory. > Tony Sorry chaps, that's not the problem. See my last posting, but to sumarise... She can't drag anything to the bottom of the list where the directory resides, it is totally unreachable, any part of the icon. By getting her to drag the directory up the list a few spaces, it becomes reachable. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article , Brian Howlett wrote: > On 28 Jun, Dave Symes wrote: > > Fay wants to know something about the NS hotlist, so If the answer is > > known, I appreciate the solution. > > She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her > > Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't > > get anything to go into those directories. > > No point in asking me... Which is why I'm asking here. > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > directories? > > Thanks > Drag 'n' drop seems to work... It didn't for her. Then I had a lightbulb moment. The particular director was at the very bottom of the list, so she could get anything she grabbed to actually drag over it... It wouldn't go down to the bottom of the list. So I got her to create another directory below that one and lo and behold, she can now drag stuff into that required directory. Of course she still can't drag anything to the newley created very bottom directory. This set me thinking... If she drags that bottom (Newley created directory) up a few places, it can now be accessed. There is something dodgy happening (Bug). The version she is using... Dev (23 March 2012 R13571) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
On 28 Jun 2012, Brian Howlett wrote: > On 28 Jun, Dave Symes wrote: [snip] > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > directories? > > Drag 'n' drop seems to work... You need to drop the selection on the _lower+ half of a directory icon, otherwise the selection is moved to the space above the directory. Tony
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > directories? >From the user guide: "As with filer windows, selections can be made by dragging selection boxes and adjust clicking can be used to add or remove items from the selection. Selections can then be dragged and dropped within the hotlist management window to move them around. It is possible to drop a selection into a closed directory by releasing it over the bottom half of the target directory. Dropping the selection over the top half of a directory or address will insert the selection above that item. Finally, dropping a selection over the lower half of an address will move it below the address." -- http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#Hotlist -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Hotlist
On 28 Jun, Dave Symes wrote: > Fay wants to know something about the NS hotlist, so If the answer is > known, I appreciate the solution. > She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her > Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't > get anything to go into those directories. > No point in asking me... Which is why I'm asking here. > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > directories? > Thanks Drag 'n' drop seems to work... -- Brian Howlett -- My net income doesn't cover my gross habits...
Re: Hotlist display silly
The following bytes were arranged on 29 Dec 2010 by Tony Moore : > On 29 Dec 2010, "Steve Fryatt" wrote: > > That seems to always have been the case: I've finally understood what > > the scroll code was (or wasn't) doing. It's the kind of thing that > > could well fall under the work I'm doing away from the trunk at > > present, so it's noted but any fix may not appear in test builds > > immediately. > > Another minor problem: The scrollbar can no longer be controlled using > the page-up, page-dn or arrow keys. While we're at it, Adjust-double-click on an entry no longer closes the window, which is far more annoying. -- __<^>__ Follow me on Twitter! --> http://twitter.com/swirlythingy / _ _ \ (Or, um, don't. It's a free country and all that.) ( ( |_| ) ) \_> <_/ === Martin Bazley ==
Re: Hotlist display silly
On 29 Dec 2010, "Steve Fryatt" wrote: > On Tue, December 28, 2010 7:50 pm, David H Wild wrote: > > > I have found a "silly" in the display of hotlist entries. > > > > If you click on the scrollbar to move down whole screen, the entry > > after the present lowest one is missed and the new display starts > > with the entry two after the present lowest. > > That seems to always have been the case: I've finally understood what > the scroll code was (or wasn't) doing. It's the kind of thing that > could well fall under the work I'm doing away from the trunk at > present, so it's noted but any fix may not appear in test builds > immediately. Another minor problem: The scrollbar can no longer be controlled using the page-up, page-dn or arrow keys. Tony
Re: Hotlist display silly
On Tue, December 28, 2010 7:50 pm, David H Wild wrote: > I have found a "silly" in the display of hotlist entries. > > If you click on the scrollbar to move down whole screen, the entry after > the present lowest one is missed and the new display starts with the entry > two after the present lowest. That seems to always have been the case: I've finally understood what the scroll code was (or wasn't) doing. It's the kind of thing that could well fall under the work I'm doing away from the trunk at present, so it's noted but any fix may not appear in test builds immediately. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
Re: Hotlist problems
In a mad moment - Richard Sutherland-Smith mumbled : > SA RPC Adjust 4.39 NetSurf 1.1 > A couple of weeks ago all the entries in my Hotlist below the root > entrie, disappeared, so I repoaded them. > Today all my Hotlist disappeared, and the icon in the icon-bar is now > grey. > If I click on the Hotlist file in > !Boot.choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf > I get a NetSurf window saying, "Empty Document, The document sent by > the server is empty" I am not sure what causes this - possibly when ns crashes and quits. It is worth while making a backup copy of the Netsurf Choices Directory and copying into it about once a week. This will give you a recovery route for the history, hotlist and cookies. Check that some content does exist in the working files first of course ;) -- |)[ |)ryn [vansmail to - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bryork.com
Re: Hotlist export
On 16 Feb 2008 Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I try to export Netsurf's hotlist on RISC OS 5.13, nothing > happens unless it's dragged to the root directory of the hard disc. > I'm trying to replace a file with the same name. It doesn't work with > the "newer" filer option on or off either. Is this a problem with the > application or RISC OS 5? Working fine here. Saves anywhere, overwrites itself no problem. Cheers ---Dave -- __ David J. Ruck Phone: +44- (0)7974 108301 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
Re: Hotlist unable to be correctly loaded.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For about a year now, even after numerous new versions, Netsurf > continually says 'hotlist unable to be correctly loaded' after first > running. I expect you have a completely empty Hotlist file at Choices:WWW.NetSurf.Hotlist If it is empty you should just delete it and you won't get the error again. You will also be able to use the hotlist properly. The bug that actually caused an empty hotlist file to be saved was fixed a long long time ago. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Hotlist unable to be correctly loaded.
On 25 Aug 2007 Roger Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For about a year now, even after numerous new versions, Netsurf > continually says 'hotlist unable to be correctly loaded' after first > running. Your hotlist is probably corrupted. Look at !Boot.Choices.WWW.NetSurf.Hotlist, if its corrupted either fix the HTML or delete it. Cheers ---Dave -- __ David J. Ruck Phone: +44- (0)7974 108301 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
Re: Hotlist unable to be correctly loaded.
On 25 Aug 2007 Roger Darlington wrote: > For about a year now, even after numerous new versions, Netsurf > continually says 'hotlist unable to be correctly loaded' after first > running. > Any ideas please. Look at !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Hotlist and see what's wrong with it. It should be just an html page containing a title (NetSurf) and one or more (nested) unordered lists. -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
