[newbie] remove

1999-11-20 Thread Ken G

remove



RE: [newbie] ADSL?

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Ty C. Mixon wrote:

 USWest, the not-so-baby Bell only supports Windows, and won't even 
 give hints for other OS's, but everything works fine under my Linux 
 installation.  I pay USWest for the dsl line, and Datawest (a local 
 ISP) for the service with a static IP. I'm my own smtp (using yi.org 
 as a redirect), ftp, and telnet server.  Still need to figure out how 
 to do POP3, but that's not as important to me, as when I move next 
 time I may not have the dsl connection.
 
You shouldn't need any more than the ip, gateway and dns for any OS. If
they ask the OS simply repeat the question, and emphisize that you didn't
ask where to input them, you only want to know what they are :)

oh yeah why i answered, pop-3 is provided by the imap rpm 

rpm -ihv /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/imap-* 

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--Axalon



RE: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Ty C. Mixon

The way I learned it, the number zero is neither odd nor even.  But 10 
would be even b/c it's divisible without remainder by 2.

The place holder thing is a significant digits idea,which is not 
always the same between math and science (physicas, chem).

-- 
Ty Mixon
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:26147713

 Original Message 

On 11/20/99, 10:51:45 AM, "Ken Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
regarding RE: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS):


 Using this logic then the number 10 is not an even number digitally
 because it is just a combination of 1 and a place holder.

 Ken Wilson
 First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
 irrelevant
 (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PadLocke
 Sent: November 20, 1999 10:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)


 zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.





Re: [newbie] Printing with an HP 722C

1999-11-20 Thread Terje Bjerkelia

At 07:56 20.11.99 -0600, you wrote:
Hi all,

  Is anyone using an HP DeskJet 722C with Mandrake? I realize that this is a
'windows only' printer (PPA) but i remember someone working on getting it to
go under Linux. anyone know? any ideas?
Thanks,

Mark E Hood

Works ok in b/w, color support is in development. 

Take a look at http://www.httptech.com/ppa/ for more info.

Terje



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Oder Santos wrote:

 John Aldrich wrote:
  
  On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  
   My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
   toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.
  
  Hmm..Pentium 200mmxI don't see anything obvious here Have you
  tried from a console window within X as well as from console prompt?
  IIRC, the directory names sound correct...how did you unpack it?
  John
 
 
 Hi John,
 I tried from a console window within KDE and I unpack it whit tar xfv
 file.tar
 Oder.

try testing the archive "tar tvf foo.tar" (isn't that supposed tobe a
tgz though?) 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:
  
   On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, you wrote:
How/where does one get Quake for linux??
   
   Presumeably in the software store. :-)
 John
  
  If you've been unfortunate enough to buy the windows only version, you
  will find the binarys and insctructions proliferate just about all the
  linux gameing sites. 
  
 I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux
 version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said
 they don't have a release date yet. :-(
   John

CompUSA, Bestbuy, and Linuxmall will all carry it when it's released i'd
wager. 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



RE: [newbie] ADSL?

1999-11-20 Thread Ty C. Mixon

USWest, the not-so-baby Bell only supports Windows, and won't even 
give hints for other OS's, but everything works fine under my Linux 
installation.  I pay USWest for the dsl line, and Datawest (a local 
ISP) for the service with a static IP. I'm my own smtp (using yi.org 
as a redirect), ftp, and telnet server.  Still need to figure out how 
to do POP3, but that's not as important to me, as when I move next 
time I may not have the dsl connection.

-- 
Ty Mixon
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:26147713

 Original Message 

On 11/20/99, 10:14:20 AM, Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote regarding RE: [newbie] ADSL?:


 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

  Locally (BellSouth) is one of those that has required
  a Windows box to set up your ADSL, although that may be changing.
  Another friend of mine has a Linux box and they're coming to install
  the ADSL line today for him. I think one problem in the past has been
  that a LOT of "kiddies" set up Linux boxes on ADSL and Cablemodems
  and leave 'em *wide* open for hacking and spamming. This causes
  problems down the road for the cable/phone co. So, as a result of
  this "problem" they have developed "windows-only" policies.
  What the INSTALLER thinks may be a different matter. ;-)
  John

 Ok true but theres easier ways, i Know lots of isp's that block port 
25,
 for those reasons, to all their customers ip's

 --
 MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
 --Axalon





RE: [newbie] ADSL?

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  While this is fine if you have a box to destroy, I mean put windows on.
  I'm sure they have a tech that can verify the ethernet connection with a
  laptop. Setting up the network card is truly trivial, no matter what OS
  good ones don't even require a reboot. Do you already have a home network,
  or ethernet card?
  
 Yes to both. :-) I have a Windows box and a Linux box hooked to my
 ISDN router. 

I've got to start paying more attention :) i didn't realise this was your
question 

 The problem is, I think, that they "key" the ADSL to the
 MAC address of your ethernet card and some "Baby Bell" companies won't
 install ADSL if they don't have a Windows box to use. :-) You can
 always set up "dual-boot" and then wipe the Windows partition
 afterwards. ;-) 

The dsl modems here in Denver aren't that much different than the cable
modems, with the exception the dsl modems you can get one with upto 4 eth
ports. Hardcodeing the mac address of the nic, I really doubt is going on,
and if they do really do it they need smacked cause they're just causeing
more work for them selves. It may be the case the've skimp'd on them, and
got cheap ones without arp support 
 
 Locally (BellSouth) is one of those that has required
 a Windows box to set up your ADSL, although that may be changing.
 Another friend of mine has a Linux box and they're coming to install
 the ADSL line today for him. I think one problem in the past has been
 that a LOT of "kiddies" set up Linux boxes on ADSL and Cablemodems
 and leave 'em *wide* open for hacking and spamming. This causes
 problems down the road for the cable/phone co. So, as a result of
 this "problem" they have developed "windows-only" policies.
 What the INSTALLER thinks may be a different matter. ;-)
   John

Ok true but theres easier ways, i Know lots of isp's that block port 25,
for those reasons, to all their customers ip's

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Michael R. Batchelor

 But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or
even?

According to a report on NPR last night, they were assumed to be even.


I think if you talk to a "real mathematician" (which leaves me out) zero
isn't odd or even, just as the negative numbers aren't odd or even. The
quality of oddness or evenness only applies to whole numbers, i.e.
positive integers.

MB



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Michael R. Batchelor

 But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or
even?

According to a report on NPR last night, they were assumed to be even.


I think if you talk to a "real mathematician" (which leaves me out) zero
isn't odd or even, just as the negative numbers aren't odd or even. The
quality of oddness or evenness only applies to whole numbers, i.e.
positive integers.

MB



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Michael R. Batchelor

 But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or
even?

According to a report on NPR last night, they were assumed to be even.


I think if you talk to a "real mathematician" (which leaves me out) zero
isn't odd or even, just as the negative numbers aren't odd or even. The
quality of oddness or evenness only applies to whole numbers, i.e.
positive integers.

MB



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Michael R. Batchelor

 But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or
even?

According to a report on NPR last night, they were assumed to be even.


I think if you talk to a "real mathematician" (which leaves me out) zero
isn't odd or even, just as the negative numbers aren't odd or even. The
quality of oddness or evenness only applies to whole numbers, i.e.
positive integers.

MB



Re: [newbie] Hauppauge, BTTV, BT848, WinTV, KWintv... Any Expertsout there?

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 I'm hoping one of you guys/gals have had experience with the Hauppaugh WinTV PCI 
card.  I just can't figure out why my tuner won't
 change channels.  I get snow and that's it.  KwinTV, BTTV  BT848 software and 
drivers were installed.  Any insights or suggestions?
 
 Seve

This is probably unreleated as my TV card doesn't use v4l, but i've just
recently had similar problems with gatos/xatitv. I have to click "scan
channels" and cancel it, untill i do i'm stuck on the channel i started on 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread Ronald J. Yacketta

David wrote:
 
 
dump 2 gallons water out fo bucket a and 3 out of bucket b, then dump
bucket b into a giving 4 galons ;) *snicker* I know,its not the right
answer, but it does give 4 gallons
 
 Hello All...
 
 Ok maybe this is not a "Factoid" per sebut just a little quiz to burn some
 brain cells, ( then again for some maybe not even that :) )
 
 U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
 "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
 
 u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water
 
 How to do?
 
 Rule: the only measuring device allowed r the buckets
 unlimited water supply
 
 "best to do while sober"
 
 as far as i know there r 2 answer's..
 
 it does help to straighten out your thoughts though
 
 actually what i am looking for is if anyone would be able to translate that into
 a wee app for X,.. Written in C, as the song goes
 
 enjoy..
 David



Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

The buckets were built by automated machines being run by a Linux machine AND
the water is straight from Linus T's faucet :)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 David wrote:
 
  U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
  "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
  
  u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water
 
   Fill the 3-gallon bucket, empty it into the 5-gallon one.  Fill it
 again, empty what will fit into the 5-gallon bucket.  Pour the remainder
 (in the 3-gallon bucket, which will be 1 gallon) wherever you need it. 
 Refill the 3-gallon bucket and pour it wherever you need it, which will
 give you 4 gallons there.  What does this have to do with a Linux list?
 
 --
 Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
 with ketchup.
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 By placement alone they would have to be odd wouldn't they?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or even?
 
  J
 
  On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   From: Ronald A. Yacketta
  
   what about 1/9/2001?
   is that not odd a nod number? 1 is odd, 9 is nod and oh yeah 2001 is a
 odd
   number ;-P
  
  
  
  
  
   bluebottle [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/19/99 11:55:40 AM
  
   Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC)
   Subject:  [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Today - Friday, 19/11/1999 -  will be the last day that has all odd
 digits
   in it's date until 1/1/3111. That's right, you will have seen the last
 "odd
   digit day" in your lifetime, and for approximately 37 generations to
 come!
 
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] X-server (2)

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

make that 
switchdesk
honestly... I don't speak with a lisp, although I can program in lisp ( a
little) 


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 mandrake and probably redhat distributions have a neat little app called
 swithdesk. It will allow you to change environments from whatever environment
 you happen to be running.
 
 Nota ben. I'm not an expert or anything like that... yet. Just sharing my exp.
 
 l8r
 
 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   I am also a beginner in Linux as well, as some of you had the mistake of
   speaking to me.  I am curious, "How do I change Windows Managers?"  I read up
   on GNOME and you can do it from the manager itself, but, from what I can tell,
   you can't from KDE, the wm I am using now.  From my installation, I think I
   have FVWM, GNOME, and KDE atleast.
   
   To answer that last message, I would like to say that XF86Setup, or something
   similar, works well.  I just used it to mess around.
   
  Actually, you can from w/in KDE. The same way you do within
  Gnome. Change to Gnome, and from there, I think you can
  select different ones.
  John
 --
 PadLocke the Ogre
 There are three types of people in this world...
 those who can count, and those who can't
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 I have a ESS1888 on my compaq.  The only thing that got it to work is that $20 
driver from OSS.  Once in a while it would cut out on
 me.  Also, when you play realmedia, the sound is good for a few seconds and you get 
silence.  Then the only way to get the sound
 back is to reboot.
 
 I even tried ALSA.  It only worked for my CD player but none of the PCM  MP3 stuff. 
 For MP3s, you would hear a bit of sound then
 silence.  At the same time you could see the counter go crazy.
 
 Seve

I've just been to the url you've given, They seem to have a standalone
tarball module, but the link is broken the only linux link i found on the
site that works is the one to OSS 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dreja Julag [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.
 
 
 Sorry, sir, I have a home built.  Just a cheap board I my bro gave to me.
 
 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Speak my friend.  What would you like to know?  I take it you have a Crampaq?
 
  Seve
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joe Marcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.
 
 
  My 'board has an ESS1888 integrated...it's equivalent to a winmodem.
  I suspect that this is generally true, but I would like to hear from
  those who know more than I (almost everyone) :.)
  
  
 --
 Drew Jackman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20177604
 
 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

This Gateway Solo P133 w/ 32mb RAM notebook that I use as my linux box has an
integrated ess1888 as well. By chance did you find any free solutions as far as
linux device drivers for your ess1888? Right now I'm using an ess1868 driver
which works rather poorly. 

Thanks


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 I have a ESS1888 on my compaq.  The only thing that got it to work is that $20 
driver from OSS.  Once in a while it would cut out on
 me.  Also, when you play realmedia, the sound is good for a few seconds and you get 
silence.  Then the only way to get the sound
 back is to reboot.
 
 I even tried ALSA.  It only worked for my CD player but none of the PCM  MP3 stuff. 
 For MP3s, you would hear a bit of sound then
 silence.  At the same time you could see the counter go crazy.
 
 Seve
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dreja Julag [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.
 
 
 Sorry, sir, I have a home built.  Just a cheap board I my bro gave to me.
 
 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Speak my friend.  What would you like to know?  I take it you have a Crampaq?
 
  Seve
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joe Marcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.
 
 
  My 'board has an ESS1888 integrated...it's equivalent to a winmodem.
  I suspect that this is generally true, but I would like to hear from
  those who know more than I (almost everyone) :.)
  
  
 --
 Drew Jackman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20177604
 
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] Samba

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Sounds like an "encrypted password" problem.  I bet when you click on the
 sahre in Network Neighborhood it asks for a password for the a share with
 "$" in it.  If so, you must enable password encryption in your Samba setup.
 
 Keith wrote:
 
Or, I think, if the "windows" machines are NT, disable encrypted
passwords. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
 toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.

Hmm..Pentium 200mmxI don't see anything obvious here Have you
tried from a console window within X as well as from console prompt?
IIRC, the directory names sound correct...how did you unpack it?
John



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or even?
 
According to a report on NPR last night, they were assumed to be even.
John



Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 StarOffice 5.1 is included as a 30 day full-trial pending your
 registration.  Don't know if registration is free or not as my trial isn't
 up yet.
 -Josh
 
If you download it, it's free, so I would assume that the version on
the CD is free.
John



Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 ESS and Crystal Audio and several others I can't think of right now make
 chipsets that OEM's stick on their cards. Does Linux support the chipset
 directly or the OEM's card which in some cases has a slightly modified version
 of the chipset? 
 
For Crystal Audio, etc it's probably better to get the OpenSound
utility. I think it's something like $10 and IIRC, the upgrades are
free.
John



Re: [newbie] Hauppauge, BTTV, BT848,WinTV,KWintv... Any Experts out there?

1999-11-20 Thread Jim Vaughan

Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 
 I'm hoping one of you guys/gals have had experience with the Hauppaugh WinTV PCI 
card.  I just can't figure out why my tuner won't
 change channels.  I get snow and that's it.  KwinTV, BTTV  BT848 software and 
drivers were installed.  Any insights or suggestions?
 
 Seve

That occurs when my input connection is loose or not connected.  I have
found it almost impossible to receive channels without an attached
antenna or cable connection.

Jim



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:
 
  On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   How/where does one get Quake for linux??
  
  Presumeably in the software store. :-)
  John
 
 If you've been unfortunate enough to buy the windows only version, you
 will find the binarys and insctructions proliferate just about all the
 linux gameing sites. 
 
I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux
version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said
they don't have a release date yet. :-(
John



Re: [newbie] FW: Bouncing!! (991117-8324497)

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:
 
  On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   Looks like a lot of #$@# to me!!
   I have a feeling that either they don't know what they are doing, or we are
   in a lot of trouble :-(
   
  The problem is NOT with mindspring.com. The problem is with
 
 In part it actualy is, they shouldn't be bounceing them back to both the
 list (majordomo /dev/null's these) and to the sender (the crap in our
 mailboxes)
 
Ahh...wasn't aware they were ALSO bouncing it back to the majordomo
server... I agree then. :-) You da man, Axalon! :-)
John



RE: [newbie] ADSL?

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 While this is fine if you have a box to destroy, I mean put windows on.
 I'm sure they have a tech that can verify the ethernet connection with a
 laptop. Setting up the network card is truly trivial, no matter what OS
 good ones don't even require a reboot. Do you already have a home network,
 or ethernet card?
 
Yes to both. :-) I have a Windows box and a Linux box hooked to my
ISDN router. 

The problem is, I think, that they "key" the ADSL to the
MAC address of your ethernet card and some "Baby Bell" companies won't
install ADSL if they don't have a Windows box to use. :-) You can
always set up "dual-boot" and then wipe the Windows partition
afterwards. ;-) 

Locally (BellSouth) is one of those that has required
a Windows box to set up your ADSL, although that may be changing.
Another friend of mine has a Linux box and they're coming to install
the ADSL line today for him. I think one problem in the past has been
that a LOT of "kiddies" set up Linux boxes on ADSL and Cablemodems
and leave 'em *wide* open for hacking and spamming. This causes
problems down the road for the cable/phone co. So, as a result of
this "problem" they have developed "windows-only" policies.
What the INSTALLER thinks may be a different matter. ;-)
John



Re: [newbie] ISP connection good...FIRE BAD

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Boy, people thought I was a 'puter geek when I was using windoze...
 After several re-installs and reconfigurations of internet sofware, I
 think I've finally gotten pretty close to where I'd like to be.  I can
 use my ISP connection as an unpriveleged user!  Linux also doesn't
 gobble 73% of my HD.  I'm learning alot, and when I get some more cash,
 I'll be getting some better books.  I guess my "Mastering Windows 95"
 book is pretty useless now as well as "The Expert Guide...".  This has
 been somewhat fun, if not frustrating for me and my family.  I'm
 learning alot, and am thinking about finding another ISP that offers
 Linux/Unix support.  There's plenty of smaller ISP's, and I'd think some
 of them would be more inclined to offer support.  Mindspring tries to
 help, but let's face it, Linux hasn't quite gotten the market share as
 Microsoft and Mac.

JoshI work for a LOCAL ISP in Chattanooga. We're also proponents
of the Linux alternative. We've helped one or two people configure
their Linux boxes for dialing into Mindspring. Standard PPP stuff
works with Mindspring. :-)
If you'd like to contact me off-list (or even on-list...just trying
to help conserve bandwidth G) I'll be glad to try and help you with
anything you need to configure Linux for Mindspring. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] Samba

1999-11-20 Thread jeff

Just a note. There is a bug in Windows 95-98 that sometimes makes it impossible to
log in. There is a fix .. goto
http://www.samba.org

They have a area that list problems and fixes.

Jeff

Bruce Endries wrote:

 I've seen the same thing many times. Here are some suggestions:

 1. Make sure you have a linux username and password that
 exactly matches your windows username and password.

 2. Make sure that you have a samba share that is useable by the
 particular user.

 3. Make sure that you have the samba share configured in
 smb.conf for the particular user, or make it a public share (writable).

 4. Make sure smb.conf is configured to use encrypted passwords.

 5. Make sure you add the linux/windows user to the encrypted
 password file by using the command: smbpasswd -a XX where
 XX is the linux/windows username. You will be prompted for
 the password.

 Then try it again.

 Bruce

 Date sent:  Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:23:31 -0600 (CST)
 From:   David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:Re: [newbie] Samba
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 
  Can you log in as your unprivileged user? If so, your problem is probably
  that you aren't allowing guest logins to your share (you can do this by
  adding "guest ok" or something like that to the share).
  Also, check which user account you have set as your Samba guest account.
 
  DvB
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Gerry Doyon wrote:
 
   Sounds like an "encrypted password" problem.  I bet when you click on the
   sahre in Network Neighborhood it asks for a password for the a share with
   "$" in it.  If so, you must enable password encryption in your Samba setup.
  
   Keith wrote:
  
Hi all,
   
I seem to have Samba up and running after many days of pulling my hair
out,and now have another problem.I can see my 2 windows machines and my
linux files (i am using LinNeighborhood) and can mount and use the
windoze file systems no problem.Now on my windoze boxes i can see the
linux box but cannot access it,its asking for a password and i cant for
the life of me find out where to put this password.Swat has no offering
for a password when i set up my shared linux files.Any suggestions
welcome.
   
Thanks
   
--
Keith
  
  
 



[newbie] Hauppauge, BTTV, BT848, WinTV, KWintv... Any Experts out there?

1999-11-20 Thread Sevatio Octavio

I'm hoping one of you guys/gals have had experience with the Hauppaugh WinTV PCI card. 
 I just can't figure out why my tuner won't
change channels.  I get snow and that's it.  KwinTV, BTTV  BT848 software and drivers 
were installed.  Any insights or suggestions?

Seve



No Subject

1999-11-20 Thread Mike J. Kesow



thank you all for the loving responses, I'll see yinz in 
hell.


Re: [newbie] ISP connection good...FIRE BAD

1999-11-20 Thread Jim Vaughan

josh mccaffrey wrote:
 
 Boy, people thought I was a 'puter geek when I was using windoze...
 After several re-installs and reconfigurations of internet sofware, I
 think I've finally gotten pretty close to where I'd like to be.  I can
 use my ISP connection as an unpriveleged user!  Linux also doesn't
 gobble 73% of my HD.  I'm learning alot, and when I get some more cash,
 I'll be getting some better books.  I guess my "Mastering Windows 95"
 book is pretty useless now as well as "The Expert Guide...".  This has
 been somewhat fun, if not frustrating for me and my family.  I'm
 learning alot, and am thinking about finding another ISP that offers
 Linux/Unix support.  There's plenty of smaller ISP's, and I'd think some
 of them would be more inclined to offer support.  Mindspring tries to
 help, but let's face it, Linux hasn't quite gotten the market share as
 Microsoft and Mac.
 Josh
 Atlanta, GA

I would have to highly recommend Corecomm.net as an ISP that provides
support to the Unix/Linux community.  They were and have been very
helpful as well as providing the necessary info to setup my ppp
connection.

Jim



Re: [newbie] Install problems...

1999-11-20 Thread Benjamin Montgomery

go to http://www.linux.org and do a search for laptops. It will give you the
Linux laptop page. There are some links there that go to pages that give
info about installing linux on a winbook.

- Original Message -
From: Michael D. Kirkpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 2:48 PM
Subject: [newbie] Install problems...


 I have a WinBook Laptop computer and I am trying to figure out how to
 install Mandrake RH6.0.

 I can not get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM drive.

 Here is what is going on...

 1.  I insert the removable floppy drive and boot from the boot disk.
 2.  When I get to the point where it asks me to pick which cd-rom drive
 to use, I remove the floppy drive and insert the cd-rom drive with the
 CD #1 in it.
 3.  I went through the entire list for CD-ROM drivers and it can not
 find the cd-rom.
 4.  It is not SCSI.

 I have an external CD-ROM drive as well that hooks up to the parallel
 port as well.  I tried it and it can not be found.  The CD-ROM is a
 "Backpack".

 I tried Fdisk the hard drive and copied the 9 files from the boot disk
 to it to see if it may be a problem from swapping the CD-Rom with the
 Floppy drive.  I can not get it to boot from the hard drive.  I fdisked
 the hard drive using DOS 6.0 fdisk utility and formatted it.  I copied
 the boot disk to the hard drive and it would not boot from the hard
 drive.

 I just need to install Apache web server and X-Windows so I can show off
 a working copy of my web site when I am on the road.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.




Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-20 Thread Oder Santos

John Aldrich wrote:
 
 On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  I am really new to linux and I have just downloaded Star Office 5.1a but
  after "untar" so51a and try ./setup in office51 I saw this message:
  segmentation fault (core dumped). What is this? Does anyone could help
  me? Thanks in advance, Oder.
 
 Hmm...sounds like a bad/grunged archive, or something
 similar. Mine worked just fine out of the archive.
 
 What processor are you on? How much memory? How much free
 drive space?
 John

Thanks John,

My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.



Re: [newbie] K Desktop

1999-11-20 Thread Warren Doney

Dennis Robertson wrote:
 
 Steve,
 
 I have tried all possible combinations of IP, DNS and Gateway entries in
 Kppp and still find that the panel and desktop icons do not work after
 using Kppp.  Is there anything else I can try, please?
 
 Thanks.
 --
 Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
 Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.

I had this too, All you have to do is make sure the box "Autoconfigure
hostname from this account" in the IP tab is not checked. Mind you,
It seemed to "revert" for some reason... I have had no problems since
I reinstalled Mandrake (for something else);-).
Perhaps you could try uninstalling/reinstalling kppp with kpackage

-Warren.



Re: [newbie] Instructions to Compile Mandrake 6.1

1999-11-20 Thread hugahog



On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Do you know it the later kernels (later than 2.2.13-7) support
 dma transfers by default? I know the 2.2.13-7 does not.
 Just interested.
 
 Larry

 I remember seeing it in some of them Larry, but I don't
remember which ones or if it actually worked. I have this line at
the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local to enable, among other things, dma:
   hdparm -m4 -c1 -u1 -d1 -k1 -a64 /dev/hdb

  The 'd' switch enables dma. 'info hdparm' has good explainations
for the various switches, specially for WD HDD's.
-- 
.. Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 
 Tom, thanks for that info. I wasn't aware of what file to change to make
it permanent.  I had previously done it manually and used the k1 switch
to make it permanent (which didn't work) so I recompiled the kernel.
But I needed to do that anyway for sound card reasons.

Larry



Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.

1999-11-20 Thread Sevatio Octavio

I have a ESS1888 on my compaq.  The only thing that got it to work is that $20 driver 
from OSS.  Once in a while it would cut out on
me.  Also, when you play realmedia, the sound is good for a few seconds and you get 
silence.  Then the only way to get the sound
back is to reboot.

I even tried ALSA.  It only worked for my CD player but none of the PCM  MP3 stuff.  
For MP3s, you would hear a bit of sound then
silence.  At the same time you could see the counter go crazy.

Seve

-Original Message-
From: Dreja Julag [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.


Sorry, sir, I have a home built.  Just a cheap board I my bro gave to me.

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Speak my friend.  What would you like to know?  I take it you have a Crampaq?

 Seve

 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Marcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.


 My 'board has an ESS1888 integrated...it's equivalent to a winmodem.
 I suspect that this is generally true, but I would like to hear from
 those who know more than I (almost everyone) :.)
 
 
--
Drew Jackman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20177604




Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread Russ Hogue

That is one method, there other is to pour off 3 gallons from the 5 gallon
leaving 2 gallons.  Empty the Three gallon bucket and put the 2 gallons of
water into it.  Fill the five and pour off 1 galolon into the three.

probably the most meaningful contribution I can make to this list G

R
- Original Message -
From: Andrew M George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 7:12 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux


 hmmm
 1. Go to video Store
 2. Rent Die hard III
 3. Fast Forward to the park scene
 4. Take notes

 (sorry...couldn't resist)


 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  1. Fill the 5 gallon bucket using the 3 gallon bucket. Now there is 3
gallon
  of water in the 5 gallon bucket. And you can add 2 more gallon of water
to
  fulfil it.
  2. Once again fill the 5 gallon bucket using the 3 gallon bucket. Now
you
  have exactlt 1 gallon of water left in your 3 gallon bucket. (it's only
take
  2 gallon of water to fulfil the 5 gallon bucket.
  3. Empty the 5 gallon bucket. Then put your 1 gallon of water into it
(it
  was in the 3 gallon bucket).
  4. Add exactly 3 more gallon of water (of course using the 3 gallon
bucket).
  5. Now you have exactly 4 gallon of water.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David
  Sent: November 19, 1999 5:34 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux
 
 
  
 
  Hello All...
 
  Ok maybe this is not a "Factoid" per sebut just a little quiz to
  burn some
  brain cells, ( then again for some maybe not even that :) )
 
  U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
  "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
 
  u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water
 
  How to do?
 
  Rule: the only measuring device allowed r the buckets
  unlimited water supply
 
  snip






[newbie] Re:

1999-11-20 Thread Belzebub

You  are more than welcome to leaave our camp anytime you want. GO back
to your BSOD if that is what you want.

 "Mike J. Kesow" wrote:
 
 I LOVE THE HUMOR AND SARCASM, BUT I HATE YOU ALL AND WANT OFF OF THIS
 CRAP!



[newbie] Re:

1999-11-20 Thread Joe Gardner

"Mike J. Kesow" wrote:

  I LOVE THE HUMOR AND SARCASM, BUT I HATE YOU ALL AND WANT OFF OF THIS
 CRAP!

So remove yourself asshole, o rwere you too stupid and ignorant to
remember how? (hint, it's NOT rocket science)



[newbie] K Desktop

1999-11-20 Thread Dennis Robertson

Steve,

I have tried all possible combinations of IP, DNS and Gateway entries in
Kppp and still find that the panel and desktop icons do not work after
using Kppp.  Is there anything else I can try, please?

Thanks.
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.



[newbie] Scanner

1999-11-20 Thread Dennis Robertson

Hello List,

I am trying to get my Mustek 60011N scanner to work.  I have installed
SANE on initial install (and Kpackage confirms) and have printed the
notes on how to configure, build and install SANE as well as sane-mustek
5, which I printed when I was running Caldera2.2.  Problem is the files
which should be in /usr/local/lib/, /usr/local//etc/sane.d/ and
/usr/local/man/ do not exist.  GIMP cannot see the scanner.  

Can anyone tell me what to do from here ( to get my scanner working,
that is ), please?

TIA.
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.




Re: [newbie] Blackbox

1999-11-20 Thread Dennis Robertson

Sean Armstrong wrote:
 
 Hello Blackbox Users,
 
 I was impressed by the supporting comments for blackbox, so I installed
 it with KDE enabled.
 
 Here is the dumb question.  I read the install and run notes but nothing
 tells me how to actually start it ie get it on my desktop.  Has the
 install not worked or am I missing something obvious?
 
 Please be kind.
 --
 Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
 Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.
 
 I just changed my Xclients file to read:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 kpanel 
 kfm -d 
 /usr/local/bin/blackbox
 
 Of course you don't have to add the lines kpanel  and kfm -d , I added
 these so that the desktop icon for kde and the kpanel would appear.  These
 are my own tastes.  The blackbox binary was located in my /usr/local/bin
 file.  Make sure that you place the bsetroot bin somewhere where the OS can
 access it ie. /bin .  Then just save this to your Xclients file, remember to
 back up the original Xclients file in case something goes wrong.  Then just
 run startx from the command line prompt and you will be on you way.
 left/right clicking the desktop will pull up the blackbox menu, which
 probably needs to be edited to work properly with your system (..very easy
 to do), or the iconify menu.
 Have fun, and spread the word.  Blackbox is the fastest and easiest to
 modify GUI out there.
 
 SA

Thanks Sean,

It works and I am evaluating it.  I appreciate the kpanel and kfm
additions.  It seems faster, but not markedly so.  I find it cumbersome
to shut down - is there a way of having it start (run level 5) and
shutdown by default if I decide to go with it. 

Regards.
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.




Re: [newbie] 128MB becomes 64MB when overclocked

1999-11-20 Thread Doug Boze

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

 Supprised it booted, what flavor video card?


A lowly Matrox Mystique PCI (and Rainbow Runner daughtercard). The original,
not the 220 model.

 Windoze and linuz use totaly different methods for determining the
 available ram, simply append="mem=128M" in your lilo.conf


I shall endeavor to apply said instructions, and will report forthwith
(sorry, beer factor mode enabled! :)




Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack

1999-11-20 Thread Satyajit Das

Hi benjamin, thanks to purchased mandrake powerpack. Yes you get 6 CD's.
One for
installation, 2 for Application program including demos and all source.
Yes you find StarOffice 5.1 alongwith key number, please regist. SO 5.1 by
online
for use unlimited times.
you may also get help directly from L-mandrake by online or telephone.

thanks
satyajit

Benjamin wrote:

 Dear friends:

 I just purchased the Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack this afternoon (from
 LinuxMall). I won't be getting it till Wednesday.

 Just curious:

 Mandrake says on their web page that the PowerPack includes the
 installation CD, 1,800 rpms and a third CD with commercial applications
 (plus a CD for the source code for each of the above, making for a total
 of 6 CD's).

 Does the CD with commercial applications include any that are not
 normally available on the Net or at www. freshmeat.net or elsewhere? And
 are they demos, shareware or what? And is StarOffice 5.1 included?

 Thank you so much.

 Benjamin

 --
 Benjamin and Anna Sher
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sher's Russian Web
 http://www.websher.net




RE: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread Andrew M George

hmmm
1. Go to video Store
2. Rent Die hard III
3. Fast Forward to the park scene
4. Take notes

(sorry...couldn't resist)


On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 1. Fill the 5 gallon bucket using the 3 gallon bucket. Now there is 3 gallon
 of water in the 5 gallon bucket. And you can add 2 more gallon of water to
 fulfil it.
 2. Once again fill the 5 gallon bucket using the 3 gallon bucket. Now you
 have exactlt 1 gallon of water left in your 3 gallon bucket. (it's only take
 2 gallon of water to fulfil the 5 gallon bucket.
 3. Empty the 5 gallon bucket. Then put your 1 gallon of water into it (it
 was in the 3 gallon bucket).
 4. Add exactly 3 more gallon of water (of course using the 3 gallon bucket).
 5. Now you have exactly 4 gallon of water.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David
 Sent: November 19, 1999 5:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux
 
 
 
 
 Hello All...
 
 Ok maybe this is not a "Factoid" per sebut just a little quiz to
 burn some
 brain cells, ( then again for some maybe not even that :) )
 
 U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
 "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
 
 u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water
 
 How to do?
 
 Rule: the only measuring device allowed r the buckets
 unlimited water supply
 
 snip



Re: [newbie] Samba

1999-11-20 Thread Bruce Endries

I've seen the same thing many times. Here are some suggestions:

1. Make sure you have a linux username and password that 
exactly matches your windows username and password.

2. Make sure that you have a samba share that is useable by the 
particular user.

3. Make sure that you have the samba share configured in 
smb.conf for the particular user, or make it a public share (writable).

4. Make sure smb.conf is configured to use encrypted passwords.

5. Make sure you add the linux/windows user to the encrypted 
password file by using the command: smbpasswd -a XX where 
XX is the linux/windows username. You will be prompted for 
the password.

Then try it again.

Bruce





Date sent:  Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:23:31 -0600 (CST)
From:   David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Samba
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 
 Can you log in as your unprivileged user? If so, your problem is probably
 that you aren't allowing guest logins to your share (you can do this by
 adding "guest ok" or something like that to the share).
 Also, check which user account you have set as your Samba guest account.
 
 DvB
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Gerry Doyon wrote:
 
  Sounds like an "encrypted password" problem.  I bet when you click on the
  sahre in Network Neighborhood it asks for a password for the a share with
  "$" in it.  If so, you must enable password encryption in your Samba setup.
  
  Keith wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   I seem to have Samba up and running after many days of pulling my hair
   out,and now have another problem.I can see my 2 windows machines and my
   linux files (i am using LinNeighborhood) and can mount and use the
   windoze file systems no problem.Now on my windoze boxes i can see the
   linux box but cannot access it,its asking for a password and i cant for
   the life of me find out where to put this password.Swat has no offering
   for a password when i set up my shared linux files.Any suggestions
   welcome.
  
   Thanks
  
   --
   Keith
  
  
 




[newbie] segmentation fault ?

1999-11-20 Thread Oder Santos

I try ./setup in office51 to install StarOffice51a but receive this message:
segmentation fault (core dumped). What it is? Does anyone know how to help
me? Thanks, Oder.



[newbie] OS

1999-11-20 Thread nadger

Q: How many Internet mailing list subscribers does it take to change a light 
bulb? 

Nice one David. 

At the same time as I posted the odd digit fact I sent a copy to Bill Gates. I've had 
an 
email from an M$VP assuring me that Windows 3111 will correct this problem but it's 
too far ahead to give me a price in the UK.

I read all the group mail. Problem is that both my linux boxes run OK and do all I 
want 
of them. 




John the Nadger
http://www.goon.freeuk.com



re: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread nadger

It has a two in it - all the digits have to be odd.

John the Nadger


 ** Original Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 ** Original Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ** Original Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:00:47 -0500

 ** Original Message follows... 


 From: Ronald A. Yacketta
 
 what about 1/9/2001?
 is that not odd a nod number? 1 is odd, 9 is nod and oh yeah 2001 is a odd
 number ;-P
 
 
 
 
 
 bluebottle [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/19/99 11:55:40 AM
 
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC)
 Subject:  [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Today - Friday, 19/11/1999 -  will be the last day that has all odd digits
 in it's date until 1/1/3111. That's right, you will have seen the last "odd
 digit day" in your lifetime, and for approximately 37 generations to come!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


** - End Original Message --- **

 


John the Nadger
http://www.goon.freeuk.com



[newbie] Re:

1999-11-20 Thread Stanley O'Larey

 "Mike J. Kesow" wrote:
 
 I LOVE THE HUMOR AND SARCASM, BUT I HATE YOU ALL AND WANT OFF OF THIS
 CRAP!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"remove" in body of text.



Re: [newbie] Please remove my address from your list

1999-11-20 Thread Stanley O'Larey

 Wayne Collins wrote:
 
 Dear Sir,
 
 Please remove my address from your mailing list.
 
 Thank-you.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Remove" in body of text.



Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread Dan Brown

David wrote:

 U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
 "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
 
 u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water

Fill the 3-gallon bucket, empty it into the 5-gallon one.  Fill it
again, empty what will fit into the 5-gallon bucket.  Pour the remainder
(in the 3-gallon bucket, which will be 1 gallon) wherever you need it. 
Refill the 3-gallon bucket and pour it wherever you need it, which will
give you 4 gallons there.  What does this have to do with a Linux list?

--
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.



Re: [newbie] FW: Bouncing!! (991117-8324497)

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Looks like a lot of #$@# to me!!
  I have a feeling that either they don't know what they are doing, or we are
  in a lot of trouble :-(
  
 The problem is NOT with mindspring.com. The problem is with

In part it actualy is, they shouldn't be bounceing them back to both the
list (majordomo /dev/null's these) and to the sender (the crap in our
mailboxes)

 racetrac.com, who is a client of mindspring.com.
 Racetrac.com had an employee who signed up for the list
 with their work address @racetrac.com. Now that they are no
 longer there, their email address no longer exists. That is
 why the mail is bouncing.
   John
 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Ty C. Mixon

True enough, but zero is BY DEFINITION neither odd nor even.  :)

 Original Message 

On 11/20/99, 2:45:55 PM, Peter Heckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS):


 PadLocke wrote:
 
  zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.

 If you define even as: "can be divided by 2 without remainder" then
 0 is even.
 0 div 2 = 0, remainder = 0.

 Pretty long thread!

 ;-)

 Peter





Re: [newbie] xconfigurator help

1999-11-20 Thread Carl Campbell

At 01:35 PM 11/20/99 -0800, you wrote:
I need to configure my computer's video card settings
to get a better resolution.  The help documents told
me to do it in "xconfigurator".  The problem I have is
that I can't find xconfigurator anywhere and so I
can't run it.  I even used the find feature to find it
and tried typing it in the terminal.  Could you please
tell me where I might find it or another way I could
change my monitor settings to get a better resolution.
 I really appreciate it.

Ryan Gardner

It is "Xconfigurator", not "xconfigurator".



Re: [newbie] X-server (2)

1999-11-20 Thread Andrew M George

 
 try desktopcfg, its by us and it runs from a console unlike switchdesk 
  
 --Axalon

OK...I asked this once before but didn't get a reply
how do you add a window manager to the KDM/XDM list and get it working?
KDM configure llows you to add a menu item, but I can't find any doco as to
what else has to be changed...
 



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Mike

when divided by two, odd numbers have a remainder, even numbers don't. zero
divided by two has no remainder, so it's even




Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread Ronald J. Yacketta

"Ronald J. Yacketta" wrote:
 
 David wrote:
 
  
 dump 2 gallons water out fo bucket a and 3 out of bucket b, then dump
 bucket b into a giving 4 galons ;) *snicker* I know,its not the right
 answer, but it does give 4 gallons
 
  Hello All...
 
  Ok maybe this is not a "Factoid" per sebut just a little quiz to burn some
  brain cells, ( then again for some maybe not even that :) )
 
  U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
  "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
 
  u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water
 
  How to do?
 
  Rule: the only measuring device allowed r the buckets
  unlimited water supply
 
  "best to do while sober"
 
  as far as i know there r 2 answer's..
 
  it does help to straighten out your thoughts though
 
  actually what i am looking for is if anyone would be able to translate that into
  a wee app for X,.. Written in C, as the song goes
 
  enjoy..
  David

ops! (3- 2 = 1) + (5 -3 = 2) = 3 *blush*
should have been 
(3 -2 = 1) + (5 - 2 = 3 ) = 4



[newbie] (no subject)

1999-11-20 Thread Ken Carte

remove



[newbie] remove

1999-11-20 Thread Ken Carte

remove



RE: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread James Lewis

0 is in fact an imaginary number. Try and imagine having zero of something.
0 x 1 implies there
are some ones, but there are none of them. Having a zero quantity of
something is in its self contradiction. You can't have nothing of something.

Or have i just drank too much coffee today...

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Heckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 20 November 1999 21:46
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)


 PadLocke wrote:
 
  zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.

 If you define even as: "can be divided by 2 without remainder" then
 0 is even.
 0 div 2 = 0, remainder = 0.

 Pretty long thread!

 ;-)

 Peter




[newbie] eth0

1999-11-20 Thread Donny

Hey everyone. When booting, it takes FOREVER to start interface
eth0.



Re: [newbie] xconfigurator help

1999-11-20 Thread Auroch

Been in the same predicament.
Finally decided to  look veeery carefully at  the  docs and then tried
typing

Xconfigurator

and [enter].

Notice the capital X.

Hope its that simple  for  you too.

Antonio C T Rocha
Brasil

-Mensagem original-
De: Ryan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Data: Sábado, 20 de Novembro de 1999 20:13
Assunto: [newbie] xconfigurator help


I need to configure my computer's video card settings
to get a better resolution.  The help documents told
me to do it in "xconfigurator".  The problem I have is
that I can't find xconfigurator anywhere and so I
can't run it.  I even used the find feature to find it
and tried typing it in the terminal.  Could you please
tell me where I might find it or another way I could
change my monitor settings to get a better resolution.
 I really appreciate it.

Ryan Gardner

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Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com



Re: [newbie] eth0

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Donny wrote:

 Hey everyone. When booting, it takes FOREVER to start interface
 eth0.

dhcp sucks in general, use static if posible. Ok i know thats not
practical for everybody, try setting the BOOTPROTO to pump and see if you
get a fast response. Theres not much tobe done about this.

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



RE: [newbie] 128MB becomes 64MB when overclocked

1999-11-20 Thread Matthew Hart

I don't know if the Abit board fully supports faster FSB setting than 66mhz,
as it's a Celeron only board.

I run a Tyan Tiger100 S1832, with dual MSI Socket to slot converters, and 2x
Celeron 466 clocked to 85mhz (1200+bogomips)on the fsb and that works fine.
BUT I am using a board that designed to run at 100mhz over the FSB.
I am planning to add some serious (cryogenic) cooling, and run to 95mhz
(1340+ BogoMIPS.

Sorry I digress.

The point is, I am not sure how well the Mobo will handle the frequency,
considering it's not a P2 or P3 board.

My reccomendation is to change your ETC/LILO.CONF, and add the statement
APPEND="MEM=128M". Then run /SBIN/LILO.

If that doesn't work, try dropping your FSB speed down a notch, untill the
memory come back.

Regards

Matt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Boze
Sent: 18 November 1999 11:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] 128MB becomes 64MB when overclocked


Hi, folks.

I've got an Abit BP6 motherboard with two Celeron 466MHz processors and
128MB of PC133 ECC RAM. At normal clock speed, Linux reports 128MB RAM,
as expected. But when I started overclocking, Linux immediately
reported 64MB!

Currently running at 574MHz, nice and comfy, with Linux Mandrake 6.1,
kernel 2.2.13-7mdksmp, compiled #1 SMP Wed Sep 15 16:38:50 CEST 1999.

With version 6.0, I compiled (not entirely successfully) an SMP version
of the standard kernel. I seem to recall something about enabling
enhanced Real Time Clock support, due to the SMP. Right now I'm using
the installed SMP kernel.

Windoze reports 128MB at the same overclock, so I wonder if Linux is
relying on the bus speed? Currently it's 82MHz, instead of the standard
66MHz.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Doug



Re: [newbie] X-server (2)

1999-11-20 Thread Belzebub

You have to edit the file /usr/bin/fndSession



[newbie] Netscape Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 - Is it worth it?

1999-11-20 Thread Sevatio Octavio

I'm curious as to how much of an improvement Netscape 4.7 is over 4.6.  For all of you 
that upgraded, was it worth the time?  Did it
fix the problems of it suddenly shutting down and all the other annoying stuff?

Seve



Re: [newbie] X-server (2)

1999-11-20 Thread Belzebub

Correction:

In my system I had to edit /usr/sbin/fndSession



Re: [newbie] xconfigurator help

1999-11-20 Thread Alan Shoemaker

RyanXconfigurator is spelled with an uppercase X.

Alan


Ryan Gardner wrote:
 
 I need to configure my computer's video card settings
 to get a better resolution.  The help documents told
 me to do it in "xconfigurator".  The problem I have is
 that I can't find xconfigurator anywhere and so I
 can't run it.  I even used the find feature to find it
 and tried typing it in the terminal.  Could you please
 tell me where I might find it or another way I could
 change my monitor settings to get a better resolution.
  I really appreciate it.
 
 Ryan Gardner
 
 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux
 version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said
 they don't have a release date yet. :-(
Yah rumor was nov 24, then dec 7. . .according to folks at all the comp shops i
been to.  What i understand from reading the plans of id staff, it seems that
the Elite (tin box) edition won't have linux binaries, additionally, the Linux
version WILL NOT ship simultaneously with the Win/Mac versions as originally
planned.  Linux binaries will not be able for dload until post xmas, mainly for
the purpose of collecting stats.  

 --

Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] Netscape Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 - Is it worth it?

1999-11-20 Thread David van Balen

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 I'm curious as to how much of an improvement Netscape 4.7 is over 4.6.  For all of 
you that upgraded, was it worth the time?  Did it
 fix the problems of it suddenly shutting down and all the other annoying stuff?
 
 Seve
 
 


Not really. If you've got some extra time then go ahead and upgrade but
don't go out of your way to do so... don't know if it fixed the 128 bit
encription problem or not.

DvB



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux
 version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said
 they don't have a release date yet. :-(
oh yeah the demo should be out tonite too!  (20-11-99)
--

Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



[newbie] Words Of Wisdom

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

Dear Everyone:
Recently I have been in involved in an email discussions with one of my
friends about OS theory, mainly linux and UNIX Design Theory.  Id like to share
with you all something he said that for me personally says it all. . .

--  Forwarded Message  --
Is Linux UNIX? I don't know. But its beautiful. Its rebellious. Its free.
Its a slap to the face of the corporate world. Fuck you bill. Fuck you
scott. We don't need your feature bloated OS nor your designs on world
domination thank you. We have our own visions, our own view of perfection
which we work together to achieve without tainting our dreams with greed.
You can  take your avarice, your hate, i'll just take linux and go where i
want to go. today.


:) hehe. that was fun. silly me.
--

Nuff said. . .you go, stephen

--

Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] eth0

1999-11-20 Thread Don

Ok, thanx. Im just on a home lan so using static is no prob. How to i go
back to configure my network settings?

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Donny wrote:

  Hey everyone. When booting, it takes FOREVER to start interface
  eth0.

 dhcp sucks in general, use static if posible. Ok i know thats not
 practical for everybody, try setting the BOOTPROTO to pump and see if you
 get a fast response. Theres not much tobe done about this.

 --
 MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
 --Axalon



[newbie] make dep error (was Problems patching the kernel...)

1999-11-20 Thread M Thompson

I applied the "ide.2.2.13.1999.patch" patch file to the kernel.  I then 
typed "make mrproper" then "make xconfig" and then "make dep"

When I typed "make dep" I received the error message:
snip
../../.config: no such file or directory
***no rule to make target ../../.config  stop
[_sfdep_fc4] error 2
[fastdep] error 2
[sfdep_drivers] error 2
[dep_files] error 2


What do I do to get rid of these error messages so I can recompile my 
kernel?  What do these error messages mean?

If anyone could even point me to a webpage that has help on these error 
messages, I'll take that too.


thanks all,
Matt

From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems patching the kernel...
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:09:23 -0700 (MST)

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, M Thompson wrote:

  I'm trying to patch my kernel with a patch file.  I placed the patch 
file in
  /usr/src.
 
  I ran the command "patch -p0  (patch file)" and received the following
  message---"File to Patch:"  What should I type when I receive that 
message?
  Is there anything else I should be doing to accomplish this task?
 
  BTW - I am using the file "ide.2.2.13.1999.patch" to add support for 
my
  Promise Ultra66 IDE controller.
 
  I thought patching the kernel was a painless procedure.

do it like
zcat ide.2.2.13.1999.patch.gz | patch -p1
or
patch -p1  ide.2.2.13.1999.patch

With the later you'll recieve a few of the same messages skip them (they
should all refer to different archs), the prompting gets skiped if you
zcat, because stdin is not a tty

  Thanks all,
  Matt
 
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 --Axalon


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RE: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

Sorry... can't let my old math profs down on this one.

Zero isn't imaginary either. An imaginary number is a multiple of a quantity
called "i" which is defined by the property that i squared equals -1. Zero
squared is Zero and the square root of Zero is still Zero. 

Some people get confused, because it is hard to imagine any number having a negative 
square.
It is tempting to believe that i doesn't really exist, but rather it's just a
convenient mathematical hoop de doo. This isn't the case. Imaginary numbers do
exist. They are not really imaginary at all. The name
dates back to when they were first introduced, before their existence was
really understood. At that point in time, people were imagining what it would
be like to have a number system that contained square roots of negative
numbers, hence the name "imaginary". Eventually it was realized that such a
number system does in fact exist, but by then the name had stuck.


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 0 is in fact an imaginary number. Try and imagine having zero of something.
 0 x 1 implies there
 are some ones, but there are none of them. Having a zero quantity of
 something is in its self contradiction. You can't have nothing of something.
 
 Or have i just drank too much coffee today...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Heckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 20 November 1999 21:46
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  PadLocke wrote:
  
   zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.
 
  If you define even as: "can be divided by 2 without remainder" then
  0 is even.
  0 div 2 = 0, remainder = 0.
 
  Pretty long thread!
 
  ;-)
 
  Peter
 
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-20 Thread Darin Martin



 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux
  version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said
  they don't have a release date yet. :-(
 Yah rumor was nov 24, then dec 7. . .according to folks at all the comp
shops i
 been to.  What i understand from reading the plans of id staff, it seems
that
 the Elite (tin box) edition won't have linux binaries, additionally, the
Linux
 version WILL NOT ship simultaneously with the Win/Mac versions as
originally
 planned.  Linux binaries will not be able for dload until post xmas,
mainly for
 the purpose of collecting stats.

If a software dealer gives you a hard date for the release of any Id game,
they are making it up.. Anyone that has followed John Carmack and co. over
the last few years knows that they never give hard release dates.  They
always release the game "When Its Done".

Todd Hollenshead, the CEO for Id software had this to say in a recent finger
update. ( you can see it for yourself by going to the console or xterm
window and typing 'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more')

Here is Todds update:

11-14-1999

Demo Test notes:

As Graeme indicated, this is a preliminary release. We are
retaining the prohibition on physical media distribution until we
release the final or "gold" demo. That means that magazines will
NOT be allowed to distribute this version of the demo on coverdisks.
This is marked all over the test, however I would appreciate it if
all of the Quake 3 and game site webmasters that are mirroring or
covering the release would lend me a hand and make sure our friendly
neighborhood game and computer magazines understand this.

Rest assured, we will allow physical media distribution of the final
demo, once it is released, but not yet.

Second, although the 1-800-idgames number is on the screen, we (id) aren't
accepting orders yet. Also, please remember that number is not for
technical support for Quake III Arena, the demo test, or any other id
game. Feedback, bugs, etc., in the demo test should still be sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Finally, before the crazy speculation starts, we aren't done with the
game yet. We will be finished "when it's done!" Again, anyone besides
id claiming to have the official release date is just pulling your chain.








Re: [newbie] OS

1999-11-20 Thread Steve Philp

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Q: How many Internet mailing list subscribers does it take to change a light
 bulb? 
 
 Nice one David.
 
 At the same time as I posted the odd digit fact I sent a copy to Bill Gates. I've 
had an
 email from an M$VP assuring me that Windows 3111 will correct this problem but it's
 too far ahead to give me a price in the UK.

Now THAT's humor!

Thanks for the laugh John
-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] ISP connection good...FIRE BAD

1999-11-20 Thread Steve Philp

Jim Vaughan wrote:
 
 josh mccaffrey wrote:
 
  Boy, people thought I was a 'puter geek when I was using windoze...
  After several re-installs and reconfigurations of internet sofware, I
  think I've finally gotten pretty close to where I'd like to be.  I can
  use my ISP connection as an unpriveleged user!  Linux also doesn't
  gobble 73% of my HD.  I'm learning alot, and when I get some more cash,
  I'll be getting some better books.  I guess my "Mastering Windows 95"
  book is pretty useless now as well as "The Expert Guide...".  This has
  been somewhat fun, if not frustrating for me and my family.  I'm
  learning alot, and am thinking about finding another ISP that offers
  Linux/Unix support.  There's plenty of smaller ISP's, and I'd think some
  of them would be more inclined to offer support.  Mindspring tries to
  help, but let's face it, Linux hasn't quite gotten the market share as
  Microsoft and Mac.
  Josh
  Atlanta, GA
 
 I would have to highly recommend Corecomm.net as an ISP that provides
 support to the Unix/Linux community.  They were and have been very
 helpful as well as providing the necessary info to setup my ppp
 connection.

Are you in the Atlanta area?  I'll be visiting in a couple weeks and I'm
looking for some suggestions of things I should check out over a
weekend.  Anything you could recommend?

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Netscape Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 - Is it worth it?

1999-11-20 Thread Mrs. Karen Heiby

I got the 4.7 128-bit and it worked pretty well for a couple weeks, although
today it crashed so much I got frustrated and started using Windows/ IE5 so
I could get what I had to do, done.




- Original Message -
From: David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 - Is it worth it?


 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

  I'm curious as to how much of an improvement Netscape 4.7 is over 4.6.
For all of you that upgraded, was it worth the time?  Did it
  fix the problems of it suddenly shutting down and all the other annoying
stuff?
 
  Seve
 
 


 Not really. If you've got some extra time then go ahead and upgrade but
 don't go out of your way to do so... don't know if it fixed the 128 bit
 encription problem or not.

 DvB




[newbie] benchmark

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

At workI use an app by SiSoft called Sandra to diagnose, and benchmark
computers (processors, bus, bridge, video, register dumps, harddisks, etc
etc etc) that I have to fix. It's a really good app for Windoze. Is anyone
familiar with it and does anyone know if there is a similar app for X systems?


 --
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



[newbie] Mailing list problem

1999-11-20 Thread Steve Philp

Would someone please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the mailing list
until his email client problems are resolved?  I'm sure we're all a
little tired of reading how his client is unable to read messages with
forwarded content...

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack

1999-11-20 Thread Dennis Robertson

Satyajit Das wrote:
 
 Hi benjamin, thanks to purchased mandrake powerpack. Yes you get 6 CD's.
 One for
 installation, 2 for Application program including demos and all source.
 Yes you find StarOffice 5.1 alongwith key number, please regist. SO 5.1 by
 online
 for use unlimited times.
 you may also get help directly from L-mandrake by online or telephone.
 
 thanks
 satyajit
 
 Benjamin wrote:
 
  Dear friends:
 
  I just purchased the Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack this afternoon (from
  LinuxMall). I won't be getting it till Wednesday.
 
  Just curious:
 
  Mandrake says on their web page that the PowerPack includes the
  installation CD, 1,800 rpms and a third CD with commercial applications
  (plus a CD for the source code for each of the above, making for a total
  of 6 CD's).
 
  Does the CD with commercial applications include any that are not
  normally available on the Net or at www. freshmeat.net or elsewhere? And
  are they demos, shareware or what? And is StarOffice 5.1 included?
 
  Thank you so much.
 
  Benjamin
 
  --
  Benjamin and Anna Sher
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sher's Russian Web
  http://www.websher.net

Hello Benjamin,

I wish you better luck in registering SO5.1 than I have had.  Online
registration would not work for me.  Star Division replied to my
complaint that they wish everyone would download SO5.1a from Sun because
it does not require registration and is the only version that will be
supported in future.  If you insist they will give you a company
registration method and number for SO5.1 which will give you unlimited
use, but from then on you will be on your own - no patches or upgrades. 
You can download SO5.1a if you have the time and patience or buy it for
$9.95.  I am going to wait until I can get it on a magazine cover disk
as I did with SO5.1 (Sun version) for Windoze.  Maybe your experience
will be different - I hope so.

Regards.
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.




Re: [newbie] K Desktop

1999-11-20 Thread Dennis Robertson

Warren Doney wrote:
 
 Dennis Robertson wrote:
 
  Steve,
 
  I have tried all possible combinations of IP, DNS and Gateway entries in
  Kppp and still find that the panel and desktop icons do not work after
  using Kppp.  Is there anything else I can try, please?
 
  Thanks.
  --
  Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
  Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.
 
 I had this too, All you have to do is make sure the box "Autoconfigure
 hostname from this account" in the IP tab is not checked. Mind you,
 It seemed to "revert" for some reason... I have had no problems since
 I reinstalled Mandrake (for something else);-).
 Perhaps you could try uninstalling/reinstalling kppp with kpackage
 
 -Warren.

Thanks Warren,

I don't know how many installs I have done with Caldera and Mandrake, so
I was rather hoping that would not be the fix.  But maybe I can stand
just Kppp.

Regards.
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.




Re: [newbie] Scanner

1999-11-20 Thread Dennis Robertson

John Aldrich wrote:
 
 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Hello List,
 
  I am trying to get my Mustek 60011N scanner to work.  I have installed
  SANE on initial install (and Kpackage confirms) and have printed the
  notes on how to configure, build and install SANE as well as sane-mustek
  5, which I printed when I was running Caldera2.2.  Problem is the files
  which should be in /usr/local/lib/, /usr/local//etc/sane.d/ and
  /usr/local/man/ do not exist.  GIMP cannot see the scanner.
 
  Can anyone tell me what to do from here ( to get my scanner working,
  that is ), please?
 
 SCSI or Paralell?
 John

Sorry, John, parallel.  How's this from the SANE-mustek.5 notes:  "Note
that this scanner comes with its own ISA card that implements a funky
parallel port (in other words the scanner is not connected to the
printer parallel port.  The code present in this release has not been
tested so proceed at your own risk!  Be prepared to pull the scanner
cable on short notice in case the situation grows dangerous and/or
noisy."  Talk about a beta release.  Maybe that's why I can't find any
files.  Anyway, I'm prepared to have a go if I can find a way.  Another
reason not to use Windoze.

Regards.
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone first.



[newbie] It's here

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

Hey John, quake3 official demo (test version anyway?) is out. . .grab it now
before everyone finds out about it!!!

yes i know it's sad ive been sitting here the last 2 hrs waiting for carmack's
announcement. . .no, i have no life(:-D 

--

Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom

1999-11-20 Thread Sevatio Octavio

Hey, is it just me?  Or do you experience a renewed sense of excitement when messing 
with Linux that you haven't had since the early
days of DOS?  I know M$ will remain as a player of some sorts but the question has now 
evolved from "which is the better OS" to "why
be confined with M$?"

Seve

BTW, who is Scott?

-Original Message-
From: Seth Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 9:06 PM
Subject: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom


Dear Everyone:
 Recently I have been in involved in an email discussions with one of my
friends about OS theory, mainly linux and UNIX Design Theory.  Id like to share
with you all something he said that for me personally says it all. . .

--  Forwarded Message  --
Is Linux UNIX? I don't know. But its beautiful. Its rebellious. Its free.
Its a slap to the face of the corporate world. Fuck you bill. Fuck you
scott. We don't need your feature bloated OS nor your designs on world
domination thank you. We have our own visions, our own view of perfection
which we work together to achieve without tainting our dreams with greed.
You can  take your avarice, your hate, i'll just take linux and go where i
want to go. today.


:) hehe. that was fun. silly me.
--

Nuff said. . .you go, stephen

--

Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.




Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread Mike

ok, i'm no math whiz, but i seem to remember imaginary numbers being used
for something else. it is the set of numbers used to describe the square
root of negative numbers. think of what the square root of -4 is. zero isn't
an imaginary number because it has a square root, zero.



0 is in fact an imaginary number. Try and imagine having zero of something.




Re: [newbie] Mailing list problem

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Steve Philp wrote:

 Would someone please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the mailing list
 until his email client problems are resolved?  I'm sure we're all a
 little tired of reading how his client is unable to read messages with
 forwarded content...
 

Did it yesterday when the first looped message went thru 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 update. ( you can see it for yourself by going to the console or xterm
 window and typing 'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more')
Oh yah. . .totally. . .ive worked in the software industry hehe. . ."when its
done" is quite a mantra there. . .yah i been following plans and stuff. . .was
pretty disappointed to see no simultaneous ship date):

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The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 what i was thinking of, was more or less an interative  game type, which will
 take user input too move the buckets around ie: poring water between them , with
 both sollutions incorperated into the game.
 
 Does this make sence?
 
Oh yes most definitely.  trying to visualize a bit to see how UI needs to be
setup. . .this could be neat. . .im seeing all kinds of possibilities. . .might
be a WHILE b4 i have some workable code but i'll see if anything comes up. . .


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Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] Mailing list problem

1999-11-20 Thread Mark E Hood

I seem to remember a message stating that he was removed yesterday. 
mark 

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 10:57 PM
Subject: [newbie] Mailing list problem


 Would someone please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the mailing list
 until his email client problems are resolved?  I'm sure we're all a
 little tired of reading how his client is unable to read messages with
 forwarded content...




Re: [newbie] Netscape Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 - Is it worth it?

1999-11-20 Thread Benjamin

Dear Mrs. Karen Heiby:

The Netscape and IE 128 encryption versions are only valid for sites
that support 128 encryption. To get FULL protection for ALL SITES, see
Fortify encryption. Add is below.

I would recommend checking out the Fortify 128 encryption program. It's
free for non-commercial use.

Please read the README file from A to Z.

Address:

http://www.fortify.net

Benjamin
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http://www.websher.net



Re: [newbie] Netscape Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 - Is it worth it?

1999-11-20 Thread Default User

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you fingered:
 I'm curious as to how much of an improvement Netscape 4.7 is over 4.6.  For all of 
you that upgraded, was it worth the time?  Did it
 fix the problems of it suddenly shutting down and all the other annoying stuff?
 
 Seve

Not for me, it doesn't.  Same shit different bull..  Others may differ
--
Ronald Yeo
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Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom

1999-11-20 Thread Seth Gibson

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 BTW, who is Scott?
 
I think he's making a reference to Scott Sellers of 3dfx. . .i think i'll have
to go with him on that too. . .next gen feature in a video chipset i want. .
.hardware geometry engine or hardware accumulation buffer. . .hmmm. . .let me
think. . .

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Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom

1999-11-20 Thread David van Balen

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 Hey, is it just me?  Or do you experience a renewed sense of excitement when messing 
with Linux that you haven't had since the early
 days of DOS?  I know M$ will remain as a player of some sorts but the question has 
now evolved from "which is the better OS" to "why
 be confined with M$?"
 
 Seve
 
 BTW, who is Scott?
 


Sun's CEO?



Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack

1999-11-20 Thread Benjamin

Dear Dennis:

Thank you so very much for your info about StarOffice. I already
downloaded StarOffice 5.1a from Sun's site about two weeks ago using my
ADSL. I was curious whether that version, i.e. 5.1a was available in the
Mandrake 6.1 PowerPack. But, more importantly, I was curious about the
other commercial software on the last CD. But I guess I'll find out when
I get my package on Wednesday.

Thank yo so much.

Benjamin
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net



[newbie] Re: [expert] ipchains and ip_fw.c

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, James Lewis wrote:

 On the ipchains home page, there is an alert regarding fragmented packets
 and ipchains.
 
 I need to know if this bug affects Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9) - as there is a
 patch supplied for 2.2.10 but not 2.2.9
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 James Lewis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not aplicable(wee! my spelling sux), We've enabled the defragment all
packets (we ship kernel with masq) 

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