Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Goldenpi

yes. Im getting two of most.

- Original Message - 
From: Kathleen Dickason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking


> I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else?
> 
> Kathleen
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] Re: [expert] reiser fs ? (was: Unexplained crashes)

2000-08-19 Thread Goldenpi

Not so reliable for me. I have already had to reformat once just after I got
it, because I didn't shut down properly.

- Original Message -
From: Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 10:31 PM
Subject: [newbie] Re: [expert] reiser fs ? (was: Unexplained crashes)


> Doug,
>
> I don't see why it couldn't. I've never tried it, but i would think that
> if this utility can see the Linux partition, which is ext2, and the Reiser
> file system is 'still' and Unix style file system, I don't foresee any
> troubles doing so.
>
> I haven't bothered to become aquainted with the reiser Fs primarily
> because I've found the ext2 FS that Mandrake installs with by default to
> be a very robust, hardy, and resiliant file system. It has recovered very
> gracefully from several instances of being brought down hard and cold by
> power outages cause mostly to severe weather in our area, and a few times
> from my wife tripping the breaker with her monster vacuum cleaner. This
> morning being the most recent. It doesn't even flinch. when the I power it
> back up it goes through the FSCK, makes sure everything is there and goes
> on as if nothing ever happened. RedHat was never able to recover this
> way. I absolutely LOVE Mandrake Linux.
>
> --
> Mark
> 
> **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
> ** <_||_> in the making of this |
> **  =\/=  message... | Registered Linux user #182496
> 
>
> > Can Explorext2 read/write  reiser fs from Win98?  Thanx. (You might post
> > your answer to the list.  I think a lot of people would like to know.)
> >
> > Thanx.  --doug
> >
> >
>
>





Re: [newbie] Partitioning questions

2000-08-19 Thread Goldenpi

erm...I have no boot partition with lilo, a 2gi /partition and no home
partition. Works through. I store a lot of data of my other hard drive which
is full of fat32. It is weird, it wont do linux and it will not boot
windows. I think it has a bad cilender.

I found an alternative boot loader to lilo or grub, and this makes linux a
bit more reliable by preventing windows from doing anything to it. Its calld
the-switch-I-put-in-the-power-cables. Since I have 3 hard drives, all is
working well.

- Original Message -
From: Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Lance Dow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Linux Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Partitioning questions


> Lance,
>
> It sounds like our systems are identical. I'm running the same thing. The
> answers to your questions are simple enough.
>
> 1) Win95 will run on any size partition. I've had it running already on a
> 3.5GB, 5GB, and 13.5GB. No problem.
>
> 2) partition your linux partitions thusly:
>
> a real basic setup for a large disk sytem that will use LILO as a boot
> loader.
> /boot = 15MB
> / = however big you want to make it. (at least 3 GB) (the filesystem
> root)
> /home = at the very least 500MB - more if you're going to have more than
> one user
>
> You don't have to worry about 'how' the installation process knows how to
> put everything where it needs to go. For now you'll you have to take it on
> faith. It knows exactly where to put things. It can see and read the
> partition tables, understands the table definitions and loads things up
> accordingly.
>
> If you don't want to use LILO you can use the other boot loader called
> GRUB which doen't require a /boot partition since it's equiped to handle
> cylinder sizes above 1024. LILO can't see beyond this which is why a large
> disk needs to be partitioned with a /boot partition.
>
> Even with the use of Grub I still prefer to setup a /boot partition
> because it allows, in my opinion, the system to boot faster and more
> efficiently.
>
> Be ABSOLUTELY sure to create a 'boot' disk while you're installing
> Mandrake. In the event that something happens to your boot loader, or
> you're working on windows and wipe your MBR, where LILO and GRUB live, you
> will need that boot disk to be able to get back into Linux and reinstall
> your boot loader program.
>
> If you need any more assistance don't hesitate to holler.
>
> --
> Mark
> 
> **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
> ** <_||_> in the making of this |
> **  =\/=  message... | Registered Linux user #182496
> 
>
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Lance Dow wrote:
>
> > Hi there
> >
> > In spite of all the horror stories I've been reading here in this forum
> > over the last couple of weeks, I've decided to install Linux-Mandrake
7.1
> > on my PC.
> >
> > In preparation for this event I've been doing a lot of RTFM-ing (reading
> > manuals and HOWTOs, for those who need a translation). One idea that
> > appeals to me is having separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc.
While
> > the FMs are full of useful detail, they all seem to *just* fall short of
> > answering my question. So I turn to the Linux-newbie brains trust for
> > assistance.
> >
> > Right. I have a 13.6G disk drive which I want to set up as a dual-boot
> > system. Once I've got Linux running, I plan to copy the Windows files
from
> > my existing drive onto the FAT32 partition of the new drive. My Windows
> > system currently has a 3.2G disk partitioned as 2G and 1.2G (roughly). I
> > have a lot of spare room on this so I think I can get by with a single
3G
> > FAT32 partition on the new disk.
> >
> > [On reflection, this might not work as I'm still using Win95. I seem to
> > recall this not being able to handle partitions over 2G.]
> >
> > So, with around 10G at my disposal for Linux, my first question is "How
big
> > do I need to make the individual partitions to use this space
efficiently
> > and effectively?"
> >
> > The second question is, having created all these partitions, how does
the
> > install program know which is which, so that what needs to go into /home
> > (for example) actually goes to the right partition?
> >
> > As a Linux newbie I'm likely to want to install everything that comes
with
> > the distro, and probably install and try lots of other stuff as the
months
> > go by. I'd like to create an environment that doesn't make this any more
> > difficult than it needs to be.
> >
> > For what it's worth my current system is three years old and uses an AMD
K6
> > 233 with 64M of RAM. I expect to upgrade it in the next few months to
> > something like an Athlon 700 with maybe 128M of RAM.
> >
> > I look forward to your learned responses. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > (Another) Lance
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>





Re: [newbie] help

2000-08-19 Thread Anthony


> Hi there,
> 
> What package(s) do I need to install to have iostream.h in my system?
> 
> Thanx

I had the same problem as you, and I think
http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/libg++-devel-2.8.1-2.i386.html
was supposed to give you that file. However, my suggestion is that if you have
just installed your system, reinstall it, and this time do a developer install
and make sure you install EVERYTHING even remotely related to programming.
It'll save a lot of headaches later on, not only in coding, but in compiling
software off the net.

-- 
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread Anthony


> Does anyone know how to find out what a lost password is? 

I don't think you can, as a security precation. You just have to set a new
password.

> -- 
> Dennis - A registered Linux user #180842
-- 
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] New Kernel

2000-08-19 Thread Anthony

Yep, the kernel is 2.4. It was supposed to be out last fall, but now it'll be
this fall when it's finally released in a stable form. You can already download
a beta version of it if you're feeling lucky from www.kernel.org, but if you
want an "official" release, then you'll have to wait a month or two.
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html has some info on what's new and
improved in the 2.4 kernel. 

> I read in the paper yesterday that Linus Torvalds is coming out with a new
> kernel for Linux (he was quoted as saying that it pained him to go back to
> 2.2).  Does anybody know when this will be available for the great unwashed
> (i.e. us)?
> 
> pete
-- 
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http://binaryfusion.net
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] Re: Undeliverable: and Repeat Messages

2000-08-19 Thread Greg Stewart

I've always maintained that Windows runs better when the computer is OFF.
Some admins just simply forget to follow that premise!

--Greg Stewart, MCP  :-)


> 
> > You notice it is from an NT box?  (sorry, couldn't resist) 
> 
> Yep.that does sum it up:)
> 
> Maxtor
> 

 
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Re: [newbie] Re: Undeliverable: and Repeat Messages

2000-08-19 Thread maxtor


> You notice it is from an NT box?  (sorry, couldn't resist) 

Yep.that does sum it up:)

Maxtor




Re: [newbie] Re: Undeliverable: and Repeat Messages

2000-08-19 Thread Gary

> Don't worry, it's not you, nor I , nor anyone else in particular on  this
> list... The mail server is having a problem, or it's someone's mailserver
> that happens to be bouncing everything around, including some looped mail in
> a bad header citing mandrax.org, etc.

You notice it is from an NT box?  (sorry, couldn't resist) 
> 
> I read a message a day or two ago, although I can't find it now to copy in,
> that describes the problem in better detail (but the solution was still
> elusive). Just be patient, it's being worked on...

Thanks Greg for your input, as well as everyone else's  - Dennis, 
Philomena ... 


-- 
Best regards,
Gary 

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If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip. 







[newbie] Re: Undeliverable: and Repeat Messages

2000-08-19 Thread Greg Stewart

Don't worry, it's not you, nor I , nor anyone else in particular on  this
list... The mail server is having a problem, or it's someone's mailserver
that happens to be bouncing everything around, including some looped mail in
a bad header citing mandrax.org, etc.

I read a message a day or two ago, although I can't find it now to copy in,
that describes the problem in better detail (but the solution was still
elusive). Just be patient, it's being worked on...

--Greg


>
> Why have I been getting these messages for the past several days.  My
> post does get to the newbie group, but I always get this bounce.
> Anybody else get these?
>
> --
> Regards
> Gary
>
>
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Re: Undeliverable: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread Dennis Myers

Yes, I've been getting them on occasion  and then my mail will be posted. Go
figure! Must be a glich in the server.


Gary wrote:

> Why have I been getting these messages for the past several days.  My
> post does get to the newbie group, but I always get this bounce.
> Anybody else get these?
>
> --
> Regards
> Gary
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords
> >   Sent:Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:26:07 +0100
> > did not reach the following recipient(s):
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:31:10 +0100
> > The recipient name is not recognized
> >   The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER
> > 10008200431QXLLCM7Y
> > MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
> > Recipient





Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Greg Stewart

Three copies... Is that all?

--Greg


> I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else?
> 
> Kathleen
> 
> 

 
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Re: Undeliverable: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread philomena

Yup - I get one of those everytime I post ..

philomena

Gary wrote:

> Why have I been getting these messages for the past several days.  My
> post does get to the newbie group, but I always get this bounce.
> Anybody else get these?
>
> --
> Regards
> Gary
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords
> >   Sent:Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:26:07 +0100
> > did not reach the following recipient(s):
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:31:10 +0100
> > The recipient name is not recognized
> >   The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER
> > 10008200431QXLLCM7Y
> > MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
> > Recipient





Re: Undeliverable: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread Gary


Why have I been getting these messages for the past several days.  My 
post does get to the newbie group, but I always get this bounce.  
Anybody else get these?

-- 
Regards
Gary


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords 
>   Sent:Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:26:07 +0100
> did not reach the following recipient(s):
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:31:10 +0100
> The recipient name is not recognized
>   The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER
> 10008200431QXLLCM7Y
> MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
> Recipient 










Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread Gary

> Does anyone know how to find out what a lost password is? Also how do
> you delete a user name?
> -- 
> Dennis - A registered Linux user #180842

The easiest way is to type "linux single" at startup when you boot up.  
You will be in bash.  Type passwd root

then type in the new root password. 


-- 
Best regards,
Gary 

Today's thought: I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.







Re: [newbie] laptops

2000-08-19 Thread Marcia Waller

Dear All, Has anyone heard of Linux on the new Emachine notebook called
Eslate or on a KFC notebook? Are these good notebooks? Marcia





Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)

2000-08-19 Thread patrick darcy

> oh noo. we're supposed to be helping people here and now look :)









> OK, now how did this "Jail" reference get in here...now I'm paranoid, too!!!
>
> --Greg
>
> > Oh sure and all the people in Jail are innocent too.
>
> > > Greg Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > > > i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he
> > > > > was bothering me :)
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe you!!!  :-)
> > > >
> > > > --Greg
> > >
> > > its absolutely true. where i live there is a new puppy named of all
> > > things gum drop. hes a little sheltie. at this very moment he
> > > is chewing something in my room. this is where i keep all my
> > > computer stuff and im almost afraid to look :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > patrick darcy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Greg Stewart wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ya know... I kinda like it when Windoze has to re-boot!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It means I get to walk away from the desk, visit the lu or get
> my
> > 85th
> > > > cup
> > > > > > > of coffee, or even chat with the neighbouring engineers who had
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > > > > problem the day before!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In brief, it means LESS WORK FOR ME!!!   (Am I going crazy?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > actually from what u have just said either u are or u arent crazy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> 
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Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Thanks, I did check this, but it seems to be set correctly.  :/

It's only on this list that I see dupes, not on the other two mailing lists
I subscribe to or with regular email...I wonder if it could be my server
doing something funny?

Dennis Myers wrote:

> You might check your preferences, I think I saw where you were using
> Netscape. If you don't check the take deleted messages off of the
> server, I'm not sure, but, you may get them loaded again when you
> reboot.  I'm not certain about this but seems like I read it on another
> thread somewhere.  Check and see, it does'nt seem right, but maybe that
> is the problem.
>
> Kathleen Dickason wrote:
>
> > I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else?
> >
> > Kathleen





Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Dennis Myers

You might check your preferences, I think I saw where you were using
Netscape. If you don't check the take deleted messages off of the
server, I'm not sure, but, you may get them loaded again when you
reboot.  I'm not certain about this but seems like I read it on another
thread somewhere.  Check and see, it does'nt seem right, but maybe that
is the problem.

Kathleen Dickason wrote:

> I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else?
>
> Kathleen





[newbie] Linux Crash

2000-08-19 Thread Michael Khachiki

Hi every one

I am having a bit of problem with my Linux Laptop. Some time my Linux
machine frizzes all by it self with no warning or error messages and I don't
know why? This happens when I start using Kdevelpoe V1.0 or Netscape. Can
anyone help me and explain to me as to what I am doing wrong? I have tried
turning Java off on Netscape and that reduced the frequency of the crash but
it did not stop it.





Re: [newbie] Time

2000-08-19 Thread Aaron Lynch

Ok, but here's the deal.

When I do this :rdate -sp time.nist.gov

it sets it correctly to 17:01

but if I restart the box, it reverts back to 10:55

so how do I make it stick?




> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > I can't seem to set my machines time correctly.  When I do, it ends up
soon
> > reverting back to GMT, as if it's using a NTP server.  How can I set my
> > machine to use a ntp server to sync it's clock, and also know it's PDT?
>
>As with most things in Linux, there's several ways to take
> charge of this.  Here's how i do it.
>
>   In bashrc I've created an alias to save typing and remembering
> this time URL,   alias tdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov"
>
>   When I type 'tdate' in a terminal while connected to the Net, my
> system clock is set to the correct time.  If I then believe the
> hardware clock (bios) needs to also be reset, I'll type
>'hwclock --systohc'which  "Set[s] the Hardware Clock to the
> current System Time.   See 'man hwclock'
>
> --
> ~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>





Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread AOLShopGAM

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I use linuxconf from a terminal window and then get into the User section to 
add/remove/update users.

Jerry

<< Log on as root, and use one of the usermangement apps. (can't remember
what they are called). On 7 they should be in gnome, X apps bit (that is
if you are using Kde). From there you can delte users, change there
passwords and stuff like that.

Mark Hillary

Root is all powerfull, I am Root, beware!

Dennis Myers wrote:

> Does anyone know how to find out what a lost password is? Also how do
> you delete a user name?
> --
> Dennis - A registered Linux user #180842


 >>





Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Bob

Thanks for reply Greg
2 computers using 3com905b tx ethernet cards connected thru hub.
Dns Numbers 192.168.100.1255.255.255.0
  192.168.100.2255.255.255.0
ISP Dns 208.223.196.128(I also set this as Gateway in Kppp
setup)  If i use the default gateway in Kppp I get the same message with Dns
208.223.199.240
I have no idea where this number comes from.
Interfaces running
lo ,eth0
No firewall or masquerading that I know of.
I can ping both computers but have not tried to mount yet. I first wanted to
get my internet connection back.
Hope this helps
Bob

- Original Message -
From: Greg Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking


> To speed things up, and provide for a better explanation of how to correct
> the issue, could you please post a complete description of your LAN, the
> configuration of both (all) computers (IP, subnet, gateway, DNS,
interfaces,
> etc.) and a diagram of the LAN you're trying to establish.
>
> Also, if you have any services runing to establish firewalling,
> ipmasquerading, etc. list them as well.
>
> --Greg
>
> > I can connect to the internet just fine until I try to setup a simple
peer
> > tp peer network. After dialing kppp and the connection being terminated,
I
> > get the debug message "peer is not authorized to use remote address
> > xx.xx.xx.xx . My ISP assigns me a random number when connected. I have
> tried
> > to resovle this my self but can't find  a way to get both to work at
same
> > time. I just want to be able to access the internet and to be able to
> access
> > (eth0) my other computer also. I have tried to search for an answer with
> no
> > luck. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
>
>

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RE: [newbie] SAMBA headache

2000-08-19 Thread Neil & Kate


Cool did that and SAMBA is going great.
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Monty Malik
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] SAMBA headache


You have the add the smb group.  As root try doing this:

groupadd smb

This will add the smb group.

Hope this helps

Monty

On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:01:56PM -0500, Neil & Kate wrote:
> I was trying to set up samba using instructions from mandrakeuser.org
>
> at one point it says...
>
> "Preparing A Public Share On The GNU/Linux Machine
> Now you'll build a home (a 'guest account') for the Windows machines on
the
> GNU/Linux machine. For this purpose, create a new user called 'smbuser'
> using either 'linuxconf' or the command 'adduser'. Since the home
directory
> for the Windows machine is public, it might be more intuitive to call the
> home directory for 'smbuser' 'public'. The group for 'smbuser' will be the
> 'smb' group created with the installation of the samba.rpm on your
GNU/Linux
> box. The appropriate 'useradd' command looks like this:
>
> useradd -d /home/public -g smb smbuser"
>
> When I try to do this I get an error message that "smb is an unknown
group".
> I do have the samba.rpm loaded.
>
> How do I manually create the smb group? and what rights/permissions do I
> need to give it? or am I barking up the wrong tree completely?
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] Time

2000-08-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> I can't seem to set my machines time correctly.  When I do, it ends up soon
> reverting back to GMT, as if it's using a NTP server.  How can I set my
> machine to use a ntp server to sync it's clock, and also know it's PDT?

   As with most things in Linux, there's several ways to take
charge of this.  Here's how i do it.

  In bashrc I've created an alias to save typing and remembering
this time URL,   alias tdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov"

  When I type 'tdate' in a terminal while connected to the Net, my
system clock is set to the correct time.  If I then believe the
hardware clock (bios) needs to also be reset, I'll type 
   'hwclock --systohc'which  "Set[s] the Hardware Clock to the
current System Time.   See 'man hwclock' 

-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [newbie] laptops

2000-08-19 Thread Ingo Bauer

Hi Marica;

I have a tecra 8000 with a 10gig drive and 128MB ram. Half the dive is
win98, needed for work, the rest is all Mandrake 7.1 . Mandrake installed
fine.

Ingo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marcia Waller
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] laptops


Dear Ingo, What kind of Toshiba laptop do you have and or like? How many
gigs of harddrive  and rams of memory does one need for a dual boot
system-Linux/Windows? Did the Linux Mandrake install well? Thanks for the
info. Marcia










Re: [newbie] Partitioning questions

2000-08-19 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:12:45 +0100,Lance wrote:

> One idea that
>appeals to me is having separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc.
---
Sat, 19 Aug 2000  16:33:32

a perfect idea Lance, as It mirrors my thoughts precisely 8-), in my
opinion the most important one to have separate is /home...that way
you can install op sys  and format other partitions without losing
your personal files and settings...makes it the prime candidate for
backups also.
One caution...if you make separate partitions for /usr and usr
local ...do not make my mistake and spell them /user and user local
with the rediculous assumption that Linux can spell.usr ..hrumph!

Otherwise the install will filter into the correct partitions
automatically.

> While
>the FMs are full of useful detail, they all seem to *just* fall short of
>answering my question. So I turn to the Linux-newbie brains trust for
>assistance.

I also ran into this, and the reason for it is, there is no
correct answer that will work for every system...so everyone talks
around the issue and you never get an answer that is meaningful.

another caution here...a lot of the info you will find was written way
back when hard drives were the size of dimes and will not depict your
requirements for your thirteen gig drive. but no matter how you carve
it up in about three weeks you will see that you should have done it
some other wayfor my purposes 13g is way larger than I need so I
am just holding my plan for some future install with room to spare for
now.
>
>Right. I have a 13.6G disk drive which I want to set up as a dual-boot
>system. Once I've got Linux running, I plan to copy the Windows files from
>my existing drive onto the FAT32 partition of the new drive. My Windows
>system currently has a 3.2G disk partitioned as 2G and 1.2G (roughly). I
>have a lot of spare room on this so I think I can get by with a single 3G
>FAT32 partition on the new disk.
>
>[On reflection, this might not work as I'm still using Win95. I seem to
>recall this not being able to handle partitions over 2G.]

If you are really running fat 32 you must have a later version

W95a is restricted to fat 16 and 2.1g drives...but you can make a 2g
and a one gig to get threein fact I would make two 2g fat 16
partitions and still be below the cylinder limit for lilo easy, as
that occurs at near 8 gigIf that is a consideration for the
version of lilo you are planning to install?

W95a does like to be the first os on the disk though, you
might want to install it before linux?

with usr and var and all on my 2g root partition it is running 71%
usage with a 6.1 mdk install, the lions share of this is usr, next
time I will have them in a partition of their own .

later
Olly P
Biloxi 
Mississippi




RE: [newbie] i486 install problem

2000-08-19 Thread carol

Hello,
Its the first time i write to this list, actually I subscribed yesterday,
and after just a couple of hours I found the solution to my problem. And I
didn't even ask for help!!!
I also had this 'signal 11' error problem with the instalation. I was
starting to think that the linux cd was bad, I got it with a Pc magazine.

I went to this link that Tom suggested (http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/)and I
really didn't understand much about it, I'm new to Linux and not really very
experienced with computers in general although I love them. So I did the
only thing that I knew I was able to do, from what was listed in that page,
and it worked, I was really surprised that the solution was so easy.
This is what I did:
Entered Bios Setup and changed RAM timing to 70 ns instead of 60 ns as it
was by default. I reset with the startup floppy (which I made with Rawrite
in Dos) and the Mandrake CD in their respective drives, and Linux started
with the instalation. I was so happy..
I just wanted to tell you in case this could help someone with the same
problem. I also have to say that my PC is an old Pentium 133 mhz, with 24
mgs Ram, and 2 HD drives (one of them only for Linux, and the other for
Win98, both 1,2 Gigs.)

Good luck to everybody

Carolina Kohler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Mensaje original-
De: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fecha: sábado, 19 de agosto de 2000 0:43
Asunto: Re: [newbie] i486 install problem


>On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, you wrote:
>> from my experience with "signal 11" it's usually some sort of hardware
>> conflict.  I can't remember any further information besides that, but I
>> hope just knowing it may be a hardware conflict will help.
>
>  mine experience too, here's a good link to start with
>
>  http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
>--
>~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>
>> bascule wrote:
>> >
>> > i have finally managed to get a copy of the i486 iso that passes the
>> > md5sum, but everytime i try to install it on my 486 i get an error:
>> >
>> > install exited abnormally - recieved signal 11...
>> >
>> > is 'signal 11' just a kill signal or does it tell me anything about
what
>> > might have happened. i have made a cd of the iso and tried to install
>> > that way and also i have set up the cd as an nfs mount and tried that
>> > (thanks to all those who helped me out a while ago with networking
>> > questions!)
>> >
>> > doing an altf3 after the install stops shows the last line of that
>> > console as *removing device file /proc
>> >
>> > alt f4 gives (6)Adding Swap: 25196k swap space (priority -1)
>> >
>> > alt f5 gives Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information:
>> > done
>> >
>> > the install fails after choosing the packages and letting the install
>> > get on with formatting etc.
>> >
>> > i think i have a hardware prob but i'm not sure where (an install of
>> > win95 went ok!)
>> >
>> > there is an outside chance that i did not burn the cd right but i only
>> > say this because depite burning such things for a while i noticed that
>> > unlike the i586 cd (a pressed one) the long filenames on the i486 cd
are
>> > only completely displayed on my other mandrake box, in win98 they are
>> > shortened which the i586 names aren't - does this mean a mistake in
>> > burning?
>> >
>> > sorry to ramble on a bit but this is frustrating!
>> > any ideas?
>> >
>> > bascule
>> >
>> > p.s. anyone care to correspond direct who knows about staroffice5.1 and
>> > macros?
>





[newbie] Great Networking Surprise

2000-08-19 Thread Michael Hatzakis

Group,

Just messing with Mandrake 7.1 on Peer to Peer with an NT4.0 box with
access to Internet.  I have Wingate 3.01 running on WinNT and almost
effortlessly, my Linux machine can connect to internet using my Wingate
proxy server.  Wow..!  I have to say, this 7.1 is a huge improvment over
RH 5.

Can someone give me the basics on how to get Apache running on my
peer-peer?  I think it may be a WinNT problem, I cannot resolve my Linux
box's IP address when runnning netscape on my NT box.

Thanks, Michael
 
Michael Hatzakis, Jr MD
Assistant Professor of Rehabilitation Medicine
University of Washington Medical Center
Medical Director, Inpatient and Cardiac Rehabilitation Programs
Puget Sound Veterans Administration Health Care System
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
(206) 277-1792
(206) 764-2263 Fax






Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Kathleen Dickason

I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else?

Kathleen





Re: [newbie] laptops

2000-08-19 Thread Marcia Waller

>From some of your responses it sounds like there are more than a few good
laptops out there for running Linux.

 Are 6.0 gigs of harddrive and 32 megs of memory enough for running Linux
Mandrake and Windows easily? Would I be better off getting at least 64 megs
of memory and 10 or more gigs of harddrive?

Will Mandrake 7.0 or 7.1 be easier to install and use on a laptop? I am
looking for a laptop that installs Mandrake without a problem, detects
everything, and everything else works fine, too.  I need a dual boot system
with Windows, too. Is Partition Magic in 7.1? That worked well for me in 7.0
on my desktop.

Thank you for your help. Marcia





Re: [newbie] Partitioning questions

2000-08-19 Thread Mark Weaver

Lance,

It sounds like our systems are identical. I'm running the same thing. The
answers to your questions are simple enough.

1) Win95 will run on any size partition. I've had it running already on a
3.5GB, 5GB, and 13.5GB. No problem.

2) partition your linux partitions thusly:

a real basic setup for a large disk sytem that will use LILO as a boot
loader.
/boot = 15MB
/ = however big you want to make it. (at least 3 GB) (the filesystem
root)
/home = at the very least 500MB - more if you're going to have more than
one user

You don't have to worry about 'how' the installation process knows how to
put everything where it needs to go. For now you'll you have to take it on
faith. It knows exactly where to put things. It can see and read the
partition tables, understands the table definitions and loads things up
accordingly.

If you don't want to use LILO you can use the other boot loader called
GRUB which doen't require a /boot partition since it's equiped to handle
cylinder sizes above 1024. LILO can't see beyond this which is why a large
disk needs to be partitioned with a /boot partition.

Even with the use of Grub I still prefer to setup a /boot partition
because it allows, in my opinion, the system to boot faster and more
efficiently.

Be ABSOLUTELY sure to create a 'boot' disk while you're installing
Mandrake. In the event that something happens to your boot loader, or
you're working on windows and wipe your MBR, where LILO and GRUB live, you
will need that boot disk to be able to get back into Linux and reinstall
your boot loader program.

If you need any more assistance don't hesitate to holler.

-- 
Mark

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On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Lance Dow wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> In spite of all the horror stories I've been reading here in this forum
> over the last couple of weeks, I've decided to install Linux-Mandrake 7.1
> on my PC.
> 
> In preparation for this event I've been doing a lot of RTFM-ing (reading
> manuals and HOWTOs, for those who need a translation). One idea that
> appeals to me is having separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc. While
> the FMs are full of useful detail, they all seem to *just* fall short of
> answering my question. So I turn to the Linux-newbie brains trust for
> assistance.
> 
> Right. I have a 13.6G disk drive which I want to set up as a dual-boot
> system. Once I've got Linux running, I plan to copy the Windows files from
> my existing drive onto the FAT32 partition of the new drive. My Windows
> system currently has a 3.2G disk partitioned as 2G and 1.2G (roughly). I
> have a lot of spare room on this so I think I can get by with a single 3G
> FAT32 partition on the new disk.
> 
> [On reflection, this might not work as I'm still using Win95. I seem to
> recall this not being able to handle partitions over 2G.]
> 
> So, with around 10G at my disposal for Linux, my first question is "How big
> do I need to make the individual partitions to use this space efficiently
> and effectively?"
> 
> The second question is, having created all these partitions, how does the
> install program know which is which, so that what needs to go into /home
> (for example) actually goes to the right partition?
> 
> As a Linux newbie I'm likely to want to install everything that comes with
> the distro, and probably install and try lots of other stuff as the months
> go by. I'd like to create an environment that doesn't make this any more
> difficult than it needs to be.
> 
> For what it's worth my current system is three years old and uses an AMD K6
> 233 with 64M of RAM. I expect to upgrade it in the next few months to
> something like an Athlon 700 with maybe 128M of RAM.
> 
> I look forward to your learned responses. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards
> 
> (Another) Lance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





[newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Bob

I can connect to the internet just fine until I try to setup a simple peer
tp peer network. After dialing kppp and the connection being terminated, I
get the debug message "peer is not authorized to use remote address
xx.xx.xx.xx . My ISP assigns me a random number when connected. I have tried
to resovle this my self but can't find  a way to get both to work at same
time. I just want to be able to access the internet and to be able to access
(eth0) my other computer also. I have tried to search for an answer with no
luck. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Bob





Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Greg Stewart

To speed things up, and provide for a better explanation of how to correct
the issue, could you please post a complete description of your LAN, the
configuration of both (all) computers (IP, subnet, gateway, DNS, interfaces,
etc.) and a diagram of the LAN you're trying to establish.

Also, if you have any services runing to establish firewalling,
ipmasquerading, etc. list them as well.

--Greg

> I can connect to the internet just fine until I try to setup a simple peer
> tp peer network. After dialing kppp and the connection being terminated, I
> get the debug message "peer is not authorized to use remote address
> xx.xx.xx.xx . My ISP assigns me a random number when connected. I have
tried
> to resovle this my self but can't find  a way to get both to work at same
> time. I just want to be able to access the internet and to be able to
access
> (eth0) my other computer also. I have tried to search for an answer with
no
> luck. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> Bob
>
>

 
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[newbie] Re: [expert] reiser fs ? (was: Unexplained crashes)

2000-08-19 Thread Mark Weaver

Doug,

I don't see why it couldn't. I've never tried it, but i would think that
if this utility can see the Linux partition, which is ext2, and the Reiser
file system is 'still' and Unix style file system, I don't foresee any
troubles doing so. 

I haven't bothered to become aquainted with the reiser Fs primarily
because I've found the ext2 FS that Mandrake installs with by default to
be a very robust, hardy, and resiliant file system. It has recovered very
gracefully from several instances of being brought down hard and cold by
power outages cause mostly to severe weather in our area, and a few times
from my wife tripping the breaker with her monster vacuum cleaner. This
morning being the most recent. It doesn't even flinch. when the I power it
back up it goes through the FSCK, makes sure everything is there and goes
on as if nothing ever happened. RedHat was never able to recover this
way. I absolutely LOVE Mandrake Linux.

-- 
Mark

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> Can Explorext2 read/write  reiser fs from Win98?  Thanx. (You might post 
> your answer to the list.  I think a lot of people would like to know.)
> 
> Thanx.  --doug
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] Partitioning questions

2000-08-19 Thread Paul

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Lance Dow wrote:

>appeals to me is having separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc. While

/boot can be between 10 and 50 megs, depending on your hunger to play with
different kernels. I have a 15 meg partition for it, with 5 kernels on it
and 11 megs free.

/ with me is 1.5 Gb, don't know if that is a lot or not.

/home is 4 GB, and I have a separate 8Gb /usr partition also.

>The second question is, having created all these partitions, how does the
>install program know which is which, so that what needs to go into /home
>(for example) actually goes to the right partition?

Don't worry, it knows :)

>As a Linux newbie I'm likely to want to install everything that comes with
>the distro, and probably install and try lots of other stuff as the months
>go by. I'd like to create an environment that doesn't make this any more
>difficult than it needs to be.

If you want to install everything, you will at least need 13Gb, if you
just install the first 2 CD's!

Paul

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[newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-19 Thread Bob

I can connect to the internet just fine until I try to setup a simple peer
tp peer network. After dialing kppp and the connection being terminated, I
get the debug message "peer is not authorized to use remote address
xx.xx.xx.xx . My ISP assigns me a random number when connected. I have tried
to resovle this my self but can't find  a way to get both to work at same
time. I just want to be able to access the internet and to be able to access
(eth0) my other computer also. I have tried to search for an answer with no
luck. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Bob





Re:[newbie] OT Linux has on windows

2000-08-19 Thread The Neptune

And I have more problems come up with Linux than I ever did have with
windows that is why I just got done taking Linux off my HD and putting
windows back on. Linux needs alot of work before it can even come
close to preforming like
windows!!
Where do you want to go today! Windows will get you there almost right out
of the box. Were with Linux it May be a long time coming before you
get every thing working just the way you like (but this may be more the
fault
of the applications you use and not linux itself.)
Doug
- Original Message -
From: Ken Wahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] OT Linux has on up on windows


> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Tom Brinkman wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > > Now i know that this is not very usall, that is why i am going to tell
you all.
> > > Right now we all know how windoze has better hardware support than
linux,
> >
^^
> >Nope! We all sure damn don't!!
> >It's prob'ly apparently that way to most 'hands off' users, but
> > actually the reverse... very unfortunately, is the case.
> >
> >Windoze has been the most popular OS for the desktop by far for
> > almost 10 years now.  Among the pros and cons of this history,
> > particularly in the last few years, is that hardware has been
> > foisted on the unaware 'computing public' that is 'win' hardware.
> > It's not hard for windoze to 'better' support hardware, when the
> > hardware is designed solely for, or at least slanted towards
> > Windoze, and the manufacturers withhold or provide limited support
> > for any other OS.
> >
> >Most all computer users that vary from this 'win' computer/
> > hardware situation, eg, Linux users, soon realize not all hardware
> > is created equal.  First baptism is they find out their modem is
> > not really a modem, but just a board that has a place to stick a
> > phone line into. _IF_ you use it with windoze.  Next most familiar
> > plight is they find out they don't really have a printer, it only
> > works with Windoze.  What they prob'ly don't even realize, is that
> > their super duper 900mhz Intel Inside, brand new ready made ...
> > runs like a homebuilt 450, since the cpu/cache/ram/drives are takin
> > on the work load that 'win' hardware shirks and dumps on 'em.
> >
> >The problem goes a lot deeper than this. With the popularity,
> > advent, foisted upon ... however you see it... of the 'onboard',
> > 'builtin' video/sound/modem motherboards (absolute junk IMO), users
> > of OS's other than Micro$h!+, soon find out that the manufacturer's
> > of this cr@p, either only marginally support, provide only binary
> > support (eg, Nvidia), or refuse to support any other OS but ... you
> > guessed it, Winblows.
> >
> >   According to the DOJ, this has been going on because of
> > illegal arm twisting by M$. It's real hard (I don't know why they
> > bother) for Linux, BSD, etc., volunteers to try and write drivers
> > for this sub standard 'win' cr@p, when the manufacturers
> > won't/don't cooperate.  This is the real injustice M$ has caused.
> > __Not flimsy software... flimsy hardware___
> >
> >   My point:  Windoze is responsible for lousy hardware, and lousy
> > hardware support, even by their own products. OS's like Linux and
> > BSD are doin a Herculean job, IMO, to do as well as they do
> > which is often better than Windoze or NT can  ...amazing
> >
> >The result is ALL desktop computer users loose and loose big.
> > Marginal, junk hardware is dumped on the computing public. BUT,
> >
> >  HEY!, "it works great with Windoze!"
> >
> >
>
> See your point.  I'll be looking to do some hardware uprgrades in the
> future so I would like to ask if anyone knows if there is a list
> maintained somewhere of linux-friendly (ie.real) hardware manufacturers.
>
> Thanks,
>
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[newbie] Partitioning questions

2000-08-19 Thread Lance Dow

Hi there

In spite of all the horror stories I've been reading here in this forum
over the last couple of weeks, I've decided to install Linux-Mandrake 7.1
on my PC.

In preparation for this event I've been doing a lot of RTFM-ing (reading
manuals and HOWTOs, for those who need a translation). One idea that
appeals to me is having separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc. While
the FMs are full of useful detail, they all seem to *just* fall short of
answering my question. So I turn to the Linux-newbie brains trust for
assistance.

Right. I have a 13.6G disk drive which I want to set up as a dual-boot
system. Once I've got Linux running, I plan to copy the Windows files from
my existing drive onto the FAT32 partition of the new drive. My Windows
system currently has a 3.2G disk partitioned as 2G and 1.2G (roughly). I
have a lot of spare room on this so I think I can get by with a single 3G
FAT32 partition on the new disk.

[On reflection, this might not work as I'm still using Win95. I seem to
recall this not being able to handle partitions over 2G.]

So, with around 10G at my disposal for Linux, my first question is "How big
do I need to make the individual partitions to use this space efficiently
and effectively?"

The second question is, having created all these partitions, how does the
install program know which is which, so that what needs to go into /home
(for example) actually goes to the right partition?

As a Linux newbie I'm likely to want to install everything that comes with
the distro, and probably install and try lots of other stuff as the months
go by. I'd like to create an environment that doesn't make this any more
difficult than it needs to be.

For what it's worth my current system is three years old and uses an AMD K6
233 with 64M of RAM. I expect to upgrade it in the next few months to
something like an Athlon 700 with maybe 128M of RAM.

I look forward to your learned responses. Thanks in advance.

Regards

(Another) Lance







[newbie] Time

2000-08-19 Thread Aaron Lynch

I can't seem to set my machines time correctly.  When I do, it ends up soon
reverting back to GMT, as if it's using a NTP server.  How can I set my
machine to use a ntp server to sync it's clock, and also know it's PDT?





Re: [newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread Mark Hillary

Log on as root, and use one of the usermangement apps. (can't remember
what they are called). On 7 they should be in gnome, X apps bit (that is
if you are using Kde). From there you can delte users, change there
passwords and stuff like that.

Mark Hillary

Root is all powerfull, I am Root, beware!

Dennis Myers wrote:

> Does anyone know how to find out what a lost password is? Also how do
> you delete a user name?
> --
> Dennis - A registered Linux user #180842





Re: [newbie] Can't write to imwheel.pid?

2000-08-19 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Ken Wahl wrote:
> 
> Not to beat the much-discussed imwheel issue but I've got a new
> problem.  I start imwheel with a kdelnk in my ~/Desktop/Autostart
> directory.  This works fine for me but it doesn't work on my wife's user
> account.  I copied the exact kdelnk I had to her Autostart folder and
> changed the ownership and it doesn't work.  When I try to start it from
> the console in her account I get the error "can't write to imwheel.pid."
> My account is not any more privileged than hers (I thought) so what could
> be the cause of this and how do I correct it?
[snip]

KenI don't have any accounts except my own and root (and I
don't log in as root as I do system maintainance as 'su -') so
I can't speak from personal experience on this problem but I
believe you ought to check the permissions of your
/usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel file.  It should be owned by root.root
and the permissions should be set at 6755.  The Application
icons in each of the Autostart directories should be owned by
the user (like ken.ken or wife.wife) and the permissions set
to 644.  Hope this helps.

Alan




[newbie] SMB printer problem

2000-08-19 Thread Neil & Kate

HI

I have three computers with 98 NT server and Linux. I have set up SAMBA and
SMB per instructions and everything works great except for one little
problem
I have a Lexmark 3200 attached to the NT Server, If I try to print a test
page from mandrake I get a message from the NT spooler (on the NT machine)
that the print job x completed...BUT the printer just sits there silently
staring at me.
I have tried using alternate drivers recommended by Lexmark to no avail. Any
pointers or help would be MUCH appreciated.

Neil





Re: Re[2]: [newbie] ld-linux.so.

2000-08-19 Thread poogle


Hi there, 
I liked the sound of khealthcare so I downloaded it but it has an unsatisfied
dependency for libsensors.so.1, I can't find libsensors.so.1 anywhere have you
got any ideas where I might look please ?
Poogle




Re: Re[6]: [newbie] OT Linux gaming OT

2000-08-19 Thread Ed Tharp

Hey,
>
 And Mike is right about the platforms, too. OSs (plural) for the x86
platform should be able to  support all the hardware available for the
platform.
>
> > But it isn't the responsibility of the OS company to support all
> > hardware.  All hardware for the x86 platform should support every OS
> > available.  So while I'll agree with you, I'll disagree about who is to
> > blame.  A decent hardware company should support every OS they can.
>
> OK, sorry, you are right, I didn't put my thoughts to paper correctly.
> I meant that every device should have support under every OS, not
> saying it's the OS's job. It's not the OS's job to do so. But Linux
> won't get far unless someone persuades the companies to make drivers
> for Linux, too.
>
>
> >> And they should start with the most common. I'd like Linux to
> >> support my Matrox Marvel G400, PS/2 mouse, CD-RW and HP DeskJet 930
>
> > The OS company may not know a single thing about the Matrox Marvel G400.
> > On the other hand, the most OSs have published documentation on creating
> > device drivers for the OS.
>
> But if the OS company wants to succeed it has to convince to the
> companies to use their specs and write a driver. I can program an OS,
> too (well, I can't), and put my specs out but why should the companies
> care ?  That's the problem. If Linux wants to be mainstream it has to
> be attractive to the companies.
>
>
> >> I am much like Mike I guess - I like computers and love to learn about
> >> them no matter what platform or OS, but I want my mouse to work.
> > Then buy a better mouse.  :)
>
> I am fine with this one. It's great when it works.
>
>
> > If you buy a new tire for your car and the car starts pulling so bad
> > that you can't keep it on the road, who is to blame?

hey and while we are on the subject, I have a diesel powered Subaru pickup,
and I am sure pissed it will not haul that semi trailer up hill as fast as
the kenworth... heck they are both diesel they both run on the same
fuel, they both have air in the tires, and a manual shift transmission...
who should I blame, the jap government for exporting this piece of  piddle?





[newbie] Lost passwords

2000-08-19 Thread Dennis Myers

Does anyone know how to find out what a lost password is? Also how do
you delete a user name?
-- 
Dennis - A registered Linux user #180842




Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)

2000-08-19 Thread Ed Tharp

Oh sure and all the people in Jail are innocent too.
- Original Message -
From: patrick darcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)


> Greg Stewart wrote:
>
> > > i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he
> > > was bothering me :)
> >
> > I don't believe you!!!  :-)
> >
> > --Greg
>
> its absolutely true. where i live there is a new puppy named of all
> things gum drop. hes a little sheltie. at this very moment he
> is chewing something in my room. this is where i keep all my
> computer stuff and im almost afraid to look :)
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > > patrick darcy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greg Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ya know... I kinda like it when Windoze has to re-boot!
> > > > >
> > > > > It means I get to walk away from the desk, visit the lu or get my
85th
> > cup
> > > > > of coffee, or even chat with the neighbouring engineers who had
the
> > same
> > > > > problem the day before!
> > > > >
> > > > > In brief, it means LESS WORK FOR ME!!!   (Am I going crazy?)
> > > > >
> > > > > --Greg
> > > >
> > > > actually from what u have just said either u are or u arent crazy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

__
> > message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com
> > emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris
(bookmarks)-forums
> > Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] two copies

2000-08-19 Thread pwbunce



"L. H. LOO" wrote:

> Hello Linuxians
> I am receiving two copies each of all the postings on this list. I use
> Eudora 4.3.2 LightMode, is this the problem.
> Regards

no so do i and i use ns !

peter







Re: [newbie] OT Linux gaming OT

2000-08-19 Thread pwbunce


 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
>> If you buy a new tire for your car and the car starts
pulling so bad
>> that you can't keep it on the road, who is to blame? 
Don't blame the
>> car manufacturer just because the car doesn't support
whatever tire you
>> want to buy.
> Well if 80% of the cars support it then I guess I will
choose the car
> which supports the biggest variety of tires.
But you didn't.  That car is named Windows. 
:)
Jon
Bull  when IBM showed os2 to your mr gates  he is reported
as saying
os2 is the best op software he had ever seen , but they then fell out
and m$ then cobbelled together 95 followed by 98 hardley reliable ! and
NO multitasking.
linux is the future but it aint' easy.
peter bunce (old newbe)
 
 


Re: [newbie] OT Linux gaming OT

2000-08-19 Thread pwbunce



Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> ... and it has Firestone tires.
> -- Carroll Grigsby

dont go out in the rain then!!!

peter bunce uk







Re: [newbie] two copies

2000-08-19 Thread Paul Yeiter

No thats not the problem, I use outlook and get the same problem.(sorry
about the ms windoze prod but I just installed linux 1st time)
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] two copies


> Nope, I keep getting 2 copies using kmail
>
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > Hello Linuxians
> > I am receiving two copies each of all the postings on this list. I use
> > Eudora 4.3.2 LightMode, is this the problem.
> > Regards
>
>




Re: [newbie] boot log...

2000-08-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> A have such question - how can i scroll up and down the boot messages? I 
> konw that it is possible, at least in SlackWare, but - how...
> 
> Jancs
> Laps Cileecish
> 
> http://jancs.ktf.rtu.lv

If you boot to level 3 (txt prompt),  should do
it.  If you boot into X, or the above doesn't work for some reason,
type 'dmesg'  in a terminal.  If you want to save the current
dmesg, try  'dmseg > dmesg.txt'

-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] boot log...

2000-08-19 Thread Paul

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Jancs wrote:

>Hi!
>
>A have such question - how can i scroll up and down the boot messages? I 
>konw that it is possible, at least in SlackWare, but - how...
>
>Jancs
>Laps Cileecish

you can see the boot messages by doing

less  /var/log/messages

Paul

--
Some people will never burn out,
for they were never on fire to begin with...

)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
Registered  Linux  User   174403
-=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-





Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)

2000-08-19 Thread Paul

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Greg Stewart wrote:

>Ya know... I kinda like it when Windoze has to re-boot!
>
>It means I get to walk away from the desk, visit the lu or get my 85th cup
>of coffee, or even chat with the neighbouring engineers who had the same
>problem the day before!
>
>In brief, it means LESS WORK FOR ME!!!   (Am I going crazy?)
>
>--Greg

No, but you're nuts and that's why we love you so much!  *grin*
Paul

--
Some people will never burn out,
for they were never on fire to begin with...

)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
Registered  Linux  User   174403
-=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-





Re: [newbie] help

2000-08-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> What package(s) do I need to install to have iostream.h in my system?
> 
> Thanx
> 

   libstdc++-devel

   If you're looking to compile source, you should check here:
  http://mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.htmlhalf way down the
page is a list of all the packages that are needed
-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] star office pluggins

2000-08-19 Thread Veit Waltemath

hey,
for java you need the JDK1.1.8 from www.blackdown.org. Only this
environment works under 5.2. Install the tar-archive somewhere under
/usr/lib/. Then in the Star-Office Explorer there is a bookmark
for setting up the java-environment. Mark the Java JDK 1.1.8in the
upcomming window, if you have another environments installed, and
 click OK. Thats it.

-- 
Veit Waltemath  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
01896 Pulsnitz / Sa -Germany
 




[newbie] star office pluggins

2000-08-19 Thread scotchpie

Hi,
Does anyone know of how I can get the Star Office browser to accept 
Java and Flash web pages in it's browser.  When in graphical mode I 
usually use the integrated desktop to do everything, however though 
the browser seems to be super quick there is no support for either 
Java or Flash?
Cheers in advance  
Andrew 







RE: [newbie] Mandrake no detecta mi tarjeta de red ni de sonido

2000-08-19 Thread Pedro Navajas Lara

Awe es una Soundblaster awe 64. Los drivers son los mismos, el problema es
que el DrakConf no detecta ninguna tarjeta, y no se por qué. Tengo todo
exactamente igual que mi amigo. Pienso que es un bug de Mandrake. ¿Puede ser
eso?





Re: [newbie] 7.1 Hangs on Boot - Dell Laptop

2000-08-19 Thread Dan O'Rourke

I remember using 7.0 on an old NEC laptop with an attached monitor.  It wasn't
my comp though, so I don't know if any special configuration needs to be done.
To try and fix your problem, I'd suggest booting in runtime level 3 when you
do your install, so that X doesn't automaticallly start, and you can mess around
with your settings.

As for getting the official distro (ie. The Box) you don't really need it.  The
disc that came with MaxLinux is the same as the Mandrake 7.1 you'd get in a
box.  The only other differences are the Tech Support (which I found COMPLETELY
pathetic...you're better off mailing this list), and the "Goodies" CD's that
accompany the distro.  You'll also get a quasi-useful manual.  But again,
you're probably better off buying "SAMS Linux-Mandrake in 24 hours" as a more
complete look at the Mandrake distrobution.

> I got the CD in the current issue of Maximum Linux. The install seemed to go
> fine (although it did not stop at the make boot disk step). I configured X
> to use my monitor (NEC Multisync XV14). When the system reboots, the monitor
> is not activated and the LCD panel goes blank and Linux never comes up.
> Will 7.1 use a laptop with a monitor attached?
> Should I just get the official distribution from Mandrake?
> Thanks




Re: [newbie] two copies

2000-08-19 Thread poogle

Nope, I keep getting 2 copies using kmail

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> Hello Linuxians
> I am receiving two copies each of all the postings on this list. I use 
> Eudora 4.3.2 LightMode, is this the problem.
> Regards




[newbie] boot log...

2000-08-19 Thread Jancs

Hi!

A have such question - how can i scroll up and down the boot messages? I 
konw that it is possible, at least in SlackWare, but - how...

Jancs
Laps Cileecish

http://jancs.ktf.rtu.lv






Re: [newbie] ppp and demand dialing

2000-08-19 Thread Andrew Scotchmer

> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > Would/etc/rc.d/rc.local be a better place to put the line
> > "/sbin/ifup ppp0"?
> > 
> > I believe a separate instance of bash exists for each user logged in with
> > bash as their default shell.
> > 
> > --Greg
> > 
> > 
Thats a thought I might give it a try.

Each user including root has there own hidden bashrc file in their home
directory.  However a user cannot run the command ifup ppp0 or at least not on
my system, therefore I placed it in the, what I presumed was system wide
configuraton, /etc/bashrc as I intended it to initiate the dial up once root had
logged in and the getty handed over to the bash shell.

Would not placing it into /etc/rc.d/rc.local bring up the dial tone before
logging in and if so how would that work as no-one, not even root has
logged in?
I think I might try that and see.

Andrew




[newbie] 7.1 Hangs on Boot - Dell Laptop

2000-08-19 Thread Rick Morris

I got the CD in the current issue of Maximum Linux. The install seemed to go
fine (although it did not stop at the make boot disk step). I configured X
to use my monitor (NEC Multisync XV14). When the system reboots, the monitor
is not activated and the LCD panel goes blank and Linux never comes up.
Will 7.1 use a laptop with a monitor attached?
Should I just get the official distribution from Mandrake?
Thanks