Re: [newbie-it] Java Applet
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Corrado wrote: Ciao a tutti! Uso Linux Mandrake come OS di default da diversi mesi, ormai, e in rete ho sempre avuto a che fare con i problemi "noti" di Netscape... Recentemente, tuttavia, le cose sono peggiorate, tanto che non riesco più a entrare in nessuna chat java... Il problema si è presentato per la prima volte alcune settimane fa, su Yahoo... lo strano è che a volte riuscivo a entrare, altre no, alternativamente... Da un paio di settimane, il problema è divenuto persistente. su Yahoo, in particolare, mi ritrovo sempre lo stesso messaggio di errore riguardo l'impossibilità di caricare la applet y.ch.0 classy.ch.0 Ma ora non riesco a caricare più *nessuna* chat java... non ho modificato nulla nelle impostazioni del browser, salvo aggiornarlo alle release 4.73 prima e 4.74 poi, e ho anche provato a fare un "downgrade" alla 4.72... Ho poi installato ex-novo (non un aggiornamento, quindi) Mandrake 7.1, conservando tuttavia le directory che contenevano i mex di posta elettronica... Niente, la situazione non è cambiata... Se qualcuno avesse qualche idea Grazie, ciao! Corrado Purtroppo non ti so aiutare. So solo che anch'io, dopo aver upgradato a netscape 4.75, non sono + riuscito a usare le applet java... Navigando a un certo punto e' comparso il messaggio: Unable to start a java applet: Can't find 'java40.jar' in your CLASSPATH Current value of CLASSPATH: /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins:/usr/local/bin/plugins: /home/floods/.netscape/plugins Ho provato a guardare da terminale il valore della variabile CLASSPATH, ma era vuota. Ho provato a definirla dandole il percorso giusto in cui c'era il file java40.jar (/usr/local/netscape-4.75/java/classes), ma niente. Ho provato allora a creare un link simbolico in /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins ma...mi e' comparsa una pagina web che mi avvertiva che il mio browser non e' java compatibile!! Ora: se CLASSPATH non e' definita, da dove prende netscape i valori che ho scritto sopra? E come e' possibile che netscape non sia java compatibile??! Sono io che mi sono dimenticato di fare qualcosa di fondamentale? Help...please! -- Floods e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Changing themes in enlightement
I second this, or you could place the .etheme file in the system wide directory which is in /usr/share/enlightenment/themes (I think). Hope this helps, Mark. -Original Message- From: Andrew Scotchmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 August 2000 15:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Changing themes in enlightement On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, you wrote: The files are in tar.gz form. I think I just need to decompress it. But after I regenerate my menus, I'm still not found my new theme there. Maybe there is something wrong with the instalation. If so, how I can install my theme ? Thank's for reply. -Pungki Hang on you don't need to decompress them do you? I know in KDE you just use the tar.gz file, maybe it's the same in enlightenment. It's been a while since I last used it so I'm not too sure. Try placeing the files in ~/.enlightenment/themes. Andrew
Re: [newbie] Problems with printer and modem install in Mandrake 7.1
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Re: [newbie] Extracting a .BZ2 file
Hi Stan! The easiest way under KDE is to open kfm, change to the diirectory where the file s located, move the mouse over it, click the ROGHT button and choose "archiver" to uncompress it. The not so easy way is to open a shell, change to the directory with the compressed file in it and then type tar -xfvz file.tar.gz or tar -xIf file.tar.bz2 Hope that helps. Cheers! What is the correct procedure in extracting a tar.bz2 file? I also had trouble with a tar.gz file that appears to be extracted but still will not work. I have looked in the HOWTO sections of some websites and it looks like I need to do /configure which I am not familiar with. Thanks for any help you can give me... Stan "The Crippler" Wilburn Mid-Range Systems Engineer Rock Hill Telephone Company 803-323-6366 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
[newbie] Can't install NIC's........
Hi gang, I just subscribed to this list, and hope that someone can help. I just installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe on a Celeron 333 desktop computer. The install went very smoothly. Unfortunately , the install didn't 'detect' any of my two NIC's that are installed. I've had no luck finding any information about how to 'manually' install a NIC, even after searching hundreds of websites etc. Any info out there usually has to do with installing drivers AFTER Linux has already detected your NIC initially. i.e when I go to HardDrake and see a list of my hardware, there is no plus sign next to Network Interface device etc. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, since the NIC's are the most important part of me using Linux in the first place! Thanks, Jeremy Wood p.s Both my NIC's aren't listed in the compatible hardware list at Linux-mandrake.com, however they both come with Linux drivers...and colleagues have used them in their machines with Linux without a hitch.
[newbie]
Hi,
I'm a relitivily new linux user and I got up this morning to boot into
win98 (I know 'who would want to use windows' but I really wanted to
play Janes WWII fighters:-) ). Then after I finished what I wanted to
do I rebooted the computer and started to load linux.
Upon linux loading I get the error msg.
"VFS:Cannot open root device 03:06
Kernel panic. 'pretty much same as above really' "
then it just sits there.
I've tried using my rescue disk. I placed it into the floppy drive
then at lilo types rescue and I get the same error.
What is causing this (or should I say could cause this). I have done
several web searches and so far everything I have found on the error
msg have been relating to the upgrade of the kernel (which I haven't
done yet).
My machine is a
Celeron 533 (socket 370)
64MB RAM (Core, I read about it again {As I had heard the term before
but in realation to old mainframes})
15GB HD, 6GB win98 partition, 7 GB Linux (Mandrake 7.1) partition,
300MB /Home partition, 100MB swap
ATI Rage IIc 8MB
Creative PCI Ensoniq
Motorola 56kbs winmodem
52x IDE CD-ROM
RE: [newbie] actiontec pci pro
Is the pppd setup properly? Check to see that you have passed it the option for "noauth" - otherwise it will fail as it doesn't receive the correct authentication from your ISPs server (which shouldn't be happening). Adding this option will turn off the authentication reception it is expecting and should allow you to use the system normally. Mark. -Original Message- From: Greg Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2000 02:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] actiontec pci pro Its a winmodem...I tried the latest ltmodem driver from lucent and am able to dial out..However when ISP answers a box comes up saying ppp unexpectedly quit. The same configuration works on an old 14400 modem. Any help with the lucent greatly appreciated. Try visiting the SuSE website... I understand they have better support for winmodems than most other distributions. --Greg __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
RE: [newbie] Mandrake Development installation
Yes it does - at least in 7.1. Although if you choose Developer you should also have the option of selecting the packages later on in the install process. Just ensure you're using the XFree86 selection and you should be fine (don't forget at least one Window Manager though!) Mark. -Original Message- From: Michael Khachiki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2000 14:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake Development installation Dear who ever If I install mandrake 7.0 as development machine would it install xwindows or not??? regards
Re: [newbie] Yo
die thread die! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/25/2000 07:11:23 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo Jason Ashman wrote: -- Hey Linux users. I am a Microsoft convert, Windows SUCKS! With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going than you ever would using windows. If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that windows does right out of the box so be it. First off its heartbeats and yes you might end up spending more time configuring your machine...main point is YOU are configuring your machine and not a sub standard non RFC following O/S. I never once thought Linux would be the "Windows" killer only becasue of a gret number of people who just are not interested as much in computers and how why they work. For those who *do* enjoy delving into their systems and having ALL the control over how things are delegated on a machine Linux has been a dream come true ... free *nix!! Those who can ... do, those who can't either whine or grab a spine and figure out why they can't, and rectify the problem with a solution either with help from others, or on their own. At one time I believed people who didn't *get* Linux and open source were just cattle running with the rest of the "well it works good enough for me" hurd ... I admit thats shallow and rude...Linux just isn't for everyone ... too bad we have to listen to them whine though =o\ if you dont like the o/s and want to complain ... maybe it would be better to join a Windows advocation mailing list and tell them...at least you might get some of the feed back you are looking for =o) -- Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today! LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using Windows, It's memory hungry and slow! Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today! Linux -Where Do You Want To Go Tomorrow! OpenBSD-Hey Are You Guys Coming Or What? I believe I have read this tag many ways but I like this one (even though I do not have and BSD installs running at the moment) ;-) Lonny Selinger
[newbie] Ricoh MP7000 Series CD R/RW Mandrake 7
I installed Mandrake 7 about 2 months ago on a Pentium II 400MHz with 10 Gig IMB harddrive. I had trouble with the install as soon as the system booted from the CD it lost the mouse so I had to do the entire install from the keyboard. I could not scroll down all of the install screens so may have missed some stuff at the bottom of them. Since installing it everything works fine except that I can't access the CD Drive attempting to cd /mnt/cdrom or ls /mnt/cdrom returns Input / output error Makes no difference if you are logged in as user or root, if the drive has a CD in it or not or even if the drive is open or closed. The CD is mounted and can be unmounted so that is not the problem. Using KFM and clicking on the CD Icon on the desk top returns could not list directory contents file /mnt/cdrom as it trys to spin up the floppy drive. this is of course logical as it is looking in the wrong place. I presume the fault is in fstab I don't know a lot about it but I can't see anything obviously wrong /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=auto 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/DOS_hda5 vfat user,exec,conv=auto 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,conv=auto 0 0 /dev/hda7 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda8 swap_upgrade swap defaults 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount user,exec,dev,suid,rw,fs=iso9660 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 Any ideas would be very welcome. -- Regards, Richard Tollyboy Products International http://www.tollyboy.com
[newbie] problem with installtion Linux
I had tried install linux on two system. Screen goes black and is it because of the video card. Video card is ChainTech Desperado 3DFX Voodoo Banshee is it because of the video . i had check out Mandrake It said that it support Voodoo Banshee so what the problem. Then the second problem is error messages when installing another system. "CD ROM - Open failed" "DiskChange detected on device ide1 (22,0)
[newbie] Partition
I have Hard Disk woth 10 Gb. And I want use my pc like server Data base with oracle 8i Which partition is the best for my, I mean how mach give to /usr , /, /home .. thanks. And please if any one know documentation about it , send to my the addres. Thanks -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
I like Linux as it is. I don't give a shit about prime time. Linux is a learning experience, more like PBS. If it turns into Saturday morning cartoons, I'll go with something else. Call me a snob I don't care. BTW I am not a programmer. Phil -- Evil is that which one believes of others. It is a sin to believe evil of others, but it is seldom a mistake. -- H.L. Mencken
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Jeff Malka wrote: Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for everyone, IMO. Choice is good... It is, but for an OS to survive it must attract and "keep" a sufficient audience, Otherwise it might have the same fate as OS/2 which is also an excellent multiuser stable OS. Do not ask why I am leaving OS/2, because I am not really, just learning a new OS and noting how it appears to a non programming guru. Well...that's a very different situation. OS/2 declined because IBM made a corporate decision to stop developing and supporting it, not because of any lack on its part. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Knapster problems
Knapster is alive and well, for now. - Original Message - From: "Homoky, Mark MJ SSI-ISEC-34" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Knapster problems Stan, As I understand it Knapster was shut down recently by the US Government for Copyright reasons - anyone else confirm this? I wouldn't expect we'd have to wait too long though before something else comes along. Mark. -Original Message- From: Stan Wilburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2000 15:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Knapster problems I installed the Knapster rpm in Mandrake 7.1 and everything seemed to work fine. I have the Knapster icon on my desktop but when I click it nothing happens. I don't receive and error so I am stuck as to what is exactly happening. Has anyone seen this or do I have something setup wrong? Thanks... Stan "The Crippler" Wilburn Mid-Range Systems Engineer Rock Hill Telephone Company 803-323-6366 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] finding the KFM executable file
If you type ls at the command line, you will see these attributes listed in the left column. "drwxrwxrwx" The first character, if "d" means directory, if "-", file. the first "rwx" are the root permissions, the second, group permissions, and the third, user permissions. "kfm" is writeable by root, read- and exectuable by all with permissions set to "-rwxr-xr-x" Correction, the first "rwx" refers to the owner, the second "rwx" refers to the group, and the third "rwx" refers to the world, there is no way to set the permissions for root. Joseph H. Perry Oracle DBA Columbus State University 4225 University Ave Columbus, GA 31907-5645 (706) 568-2063 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[newbie] PlexWriter 12x10x32
I've sent an e-mail which did get replied to but there was an error in the reply. My question was whether Plextor's 12x10x32 CD-RW P/N: PX-W1210TA/SW is supported on Linux Mandrake 7.1 (Helium)? Will the driver "cdrecord" work for this device? I cannot find it in any of the Linux hardware compatibility lists. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
[newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Problem with SCSI Drives and eth0 on boot
Need Help. I'm running a HP Vectra XU with (1) 2GB ST3255ON ; (4) 18GB ST318416N SCSI drives and a Sony SCSI CDROM. The (4) 18GB disks are in an external HP1350SE tower. The SCSI controller is on the system board and is an Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI. All the drives are narrow channel. When I load MD7.1 with only the 2GB drive everything works on boot-up. When I load MD7.1 with all (5) SCSI drives the install completes without a problem. When I boot using Linux on Grup I get the following errros: Boot Done. Enabling symmetric IO mode...done. Enabling IO-APIC IRQs ... changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 16 Kernal panic : could not set ID ... In swapper task - not syncing (the system hangs) When I boot using Linux-Up on Grup the system boots, however as the processes are started my eth0 will not start. I get: Bringing up interface eth0 - Delaying eth0 initialization..[failed] The system is fine all the devices are mounted and accessible - but I can't get to my network? I need help?
Re: [newbie] error on boot-up
Marcia, If you want to re-install just do so as if you were installing for the first time. If you've defined the partitions, such as '/' (root), /home, /boot, and so forth you can format all the partitions except your home dir and that will leave all your data files in tact while installing the OS afresh. That is your best option at this point. It appears that something catastrophic has occured to your system and the only way I can see out of this is by re-installing the OS itself. If you have any futher questions on this please feel free to email me directly if you wish. I can help you sort out the options open to you as far as partitioning is concerned as can the others here on this list. Mark Marcia Waller wrote: Dear Paul, Alan, Mark, Thank you for your help. I would definitely agree that my system is stalling as it's attempting to mount the 'root' file system in read/write mode. I typed the' linux single' and it made no difference. I have not found a way to get to a console or linuxconf. I have read and tried many things and none have worked. I suppose you have to choose Grub at installation and it is a little late now. The failsafe did not work with LILO that is for sure. Would I be better off totally reinstalling Linux Mandrake 7.0? I did do the upgrade install and that did not change anything either. I suspect that I did something incorrectly in the fstab file since I was working on that for the zip drive just before I had problems. I touched nothing but the zip drive entry. I have been working on that for awhile trying to get it to work and that never hurt anything before plus it did not get my zip to work either:) Thank you for your help. I may just try to start over if I can. If I decide to reinstall how would I use grub instead? I appreciate the help. Marcia
RE: [newbie] Knapster problems
Stan, As far as I know, Napster is still open for business under appeal. Buzz As I understand it Knapster was shut down recently by the US Government for Copyright reasons - anyone else confirm this? I wouldn't expect we'd have to wait too long though before something else comes along. Mark. -Original Message- From: Stan Wilburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2000 15:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Knapster problems I installed the Knapster rpm in Mandrake 7.1 and everything seemed to work fine. I have the Knapster icon on my desktop but when I click it nothing happens. I don't receive and error so I am stuck as to what is exactly happening. Has anyone seen this or do I have something setup wrong? Thanks... Stan "The Crippler" Wilburn Mid-Range Systems Engineer Rock Hill Telephone Company 803-323-6366 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Reiser Fs
Voglio reinstallare Mandrake 7.1 e so che è possibile impostare il file suystem a Reiser Fs anziché ext2. Ora, siccome sono un newbie (moolto newbie) vorrei chiedervi la differenza fra i due file system e i vantaggi (e/o svantaggi) del reiser... ho letto che è un file system journaled ma non ho la più pallida idea di che cosa significhi. Grazie e ciao a tutti Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] F1
Help, we need to make a Startup Disk or how can star the linux without XWINDOWS, because i just change the date in the BIOS and Linux just dont work with graphical mode. Thanks
Re: [newbie] Knapster problems - die thread DIE
Personally I can't wait till this court thing gets settled, Napster is shut down for good, and this thread dies. Napster is stealing plain and simple. No matter how you slice it. Of course that's if you're being completely honest with yourself and others. Put yourself in the shoes of the artist whos CD's you're ripping and then sharing with others. THAT is NOT just music files you're swapping back and forth. That is a peice of someone elses creativity that is COPYRIGHTED material and not for FREE distribution. So PLEASE! take it off line and off this list! Mark Buzz and Nan wrote: Stan, As far as I know, Napster is still open for business under appeal. Buzz As I understand it Knapster was shut down recently by the US Government for Copyright reasons - anyone else confirm this? I wouldn't expect we'd have to wait too long though before something else comes along. Mark. -Original Message- From: Stan Wilburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2000 15:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Knapster problems I installed the Knapster rpm in Mandrake 7.1 and everything seemed to work fine. I have the Knapster icon on my desktop but when I click it nothing happens. I don't receive and error so I am stuck as to what is exactly happening. Has anyone seen this or do I have something setup wrong? Thanks... Stan "The Crippler" Wilburn Mid-Range Systems Engineer Rock Hill Telephone Company 803-323-6366 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Knapster problems - die thread DIE
Personally I can't wait till this court thing gets settled, Napster is shut down for good, and this thread dies. Napster is stealing plain and simple. No matter how you slice it. Of course that's if you're being completely honest with yourself and others. Put yourself in the shoes of the artist whos CD's you're ripping and then sharing with others. THAT is NOT just music files you're swapping back and forth. That is a peice of someone elses creativity that is COPYRIGHTED material and not for FREE distribution. check out etree.org for some things way cooler than napster but with a much more limited selection of bands. All live stuff, but a fat connection required...
[newbie] Wine: How to start?
Been trying to figure out Wine - how exactly do you use it? I can't get it to even start. Thanks
[newbie] Networking problems
Can anyone help me out on this one. I've been itching to upgrade to Mandrake 7.1 for a while now. So that's done, and I love it. However, I can't seem to get the sound card to be detected, as well as connect to my network. I'm on mixed network, with a Unix gateway (routing us to a higher level network), with all the other machines being either Solaris or NT. I don't know what exactly I need to configure to access the network from Linux. I've tried duplicating all the settings from the NT partition - whereas the machine was concerned, so to the gateway, I should still be - "samemachinename", and the same IP address. However. I'm quite sure I entered something wrong. I can't ping the gateway, nor can I see anyone else on the network (which means no internet from within Linux). I set the ethernet card to be dev/eth0, which shows a device fail in bootup now, so I'm quite sure the problem begins there. Is there any general advice someone can give to help me get unto a Unix network. I've had little experience with Linux - however, I have intentions of making it my operating system of choice. If you wish to help me address this problem, you can email me directly, so as not to waste the people's time on this list. Thanks. About the sound card, I'll try a bit to figure that one out - probably have to find an RPM driver somewhere for it. Kirk
Re: [newbie] Netscape freeze
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Juggernaut wrote: Hello I'm using Mandrake 7.0 And then, if I want to access Netscape Communicator (not Netscape Navigator, because my GNOME has 3 icon for Netscape), it will freeze up. There is an information about 'reading file' at the left corner. And Netscape does not show anything (blank). But if I open Netscape navigator, it work fine. Anyone can help me ? BTW, are there any deferentitation between Netscape Navigator and Netscape Communicator ? I have communicator also, and that freezes at times also, but not all the time. I don't use the other parts, just the browser. Paul -- If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie!
Its shockwave. Its a rolling stones song, with words makeing fun of windows. - Original Message - From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie! "Brisco County Jr." wrote: Here's another one too funny not to pass on to the group! (Takes bout a minute for the show to start) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php3?id=1412 ok...what's the joke? I followed the URL and didn't see a thing. Using 4.75. I figured that would be enough to view something with plugins. What's up? -- Mark
[newbie] Setting up networking: hostname vs. hostname+domain
When I go to configure the networking it want's me to set ths hostname which I assume is just a single word name like 'jupiter' representing the name of the machine itself. Then it want's me to put in the fully qualified name i.e. hostname+domain. If I'm using a cable modem, do I make this 'jupiter.austin.rr.com'? I feel kind of funny doing that, can I just leave it as 'jupiter'?
Re: [newbie] Viewing Source Code
What you are looking at with all those funny symbols is __binary__ code, i.e., what the compiled source looks like. What you want is the __uncompiled__source__ as the man said in his reply. Then if you modify the source, you will have to recompile it before you can run it. Hope this is a little clearer. --doug At 06:57 AM 08/29/2000 +0100, you wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Robin Regennitter wrote: Hi Everybody, I was wondering how do I view the source code of any program. I tried using various editor and developing tools. All I got is a bunch of symbols and letters. How am I suppose to modify a program if I cant understands these multi symbols and letters? Did you install the sources from the Sources CD? They should be in /usr/src/linux or /usr/src/Mandrake somewhere (not sure, I don't have them on disk) Paul -- If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Networking problems
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Kirk Lashley wrote: now, so I'm quite sure the problem begins there. Is there any general advice someone can give to help me get unto a Unix network. I've had little experience with Linux - however, I have intentions of making it my operating system of choice. You could start by checking http://mandrakeuser.org There's a lot of info on setting up and checking network stuff there. About the sound card, I'll try a bit to figure that one out - probably have to find an RPM driver somewhere for it. You'll have to tell which card you have otherwise nobody can give you a tip... Paul -- If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Jeff, As a "newbie", a user with NO technical knowledge can install a UNIX-LIKE operating system, and use it without much guidance. Most users are able to find this alone a very enabling and excellent first step. You may not consider this a serious usability issue, but it teaches the user to do many things without knowing the intimate details about the OS. Also, a very important first lesson. Trust themselves that they are able to do for themselves, and that it is NOT out of their range of abilities. If a task is out of his or her range, they are given MANY resources of information, not the least of which is this mailing list. Obviously, not everyone is interested in the Linux OS nor any other OS for that matter. However, Linux has MANY more free programs than any other OS, because it is an open source and therefore low dollar investment, many will be interested. You mention DOSEMU. From what I understand of the DOSEMU, there is a man page, and a HOWTO file that gives explicit instructions on the setup and use of this tool. What the Warp OS hides from you is FAR more substantial than that which it reveals (along with all other "Win" O/Ss) thru it's GUI. The Windows-like features of the Warp (or OS2) OS prevent you from getting to the actual threads and child-threads to see how the process of a program flows, unless you were to spend hundreds on debuggers. I can do this on Linux out of the box (so to speak) with freely available software, which means that the CAPABILITIES of the OS are HIGHER than that of the average user. Which is also true of WinNT, and OS2/Warp. If usability is a consideration, one must address the issue of compatability to the purpose and then efficiency (both financial and task oriented). Linux has a more open, bigger base to cover than a limited OS like OS2 or Windows. There's just plain more to learn. But there's always someone to ask. The worst thing that can happen to a new user is that he or she becomes complacent with their current skillset and stops growing. This OS will constantly change, and forever introduce new and more features to achieve the results, in many different ways, so there's more choices than a closed OS like Windows and Warp. But learning is the best part of the OS. It is what makes it more fun to use than Windows, because anyone can fix it without a $20,000 license for the source code, to see what makes it tick. And anyone can put in their code to make it better. Even if the code is only an idea for a future feature like making DOSEMU work for anyone out of the box. Have a great day. Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Linux Newbie Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:38 AM Subject: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user) As someone who does not like to have MS stuff on my PCs but have to because of the need of relating to the real business world, I was eager to try Linux. It really is great, especially for an open system. But I believe it still has a way to go before it can be used by the general computer public. One example is DOSEMU. I am running Mandrake 7.1 which installs dosemu automatically, but not in a usable form. Whereas OS/2 runs dos applications transparently and even a beginner can use them. However the equivalent in Linux is dosemu which - let's get real - needs experience with programming to use and is totally useless to a beginner. As installed only a root can use it. Apparently to make it useable one must tinker with /etc/dosemu.conf and /etc/dosemu.users. Well, a normal PC user could not possibly understand or modify these files assuming he can find them in the first place. That is another problem. There are numerous configuration files (X, etc.) and they are all located in different places instead of in one directory where a non programmer can find them. There are numerous other problems that make using Linux a steep learning curve - which it does not need to be. I am certain it will improve and I sure hope so, but it cannot improve unless normal PC users like myself point out where they see the problems for them. That is the reason for this message which is not meant to start a flame war but to point out where newbies need help, get frustrated and abandon the OS despite its obvious advantages. I for one, though fairly sophisticated with computers but not a programmer, still cannot figure out how to modify the various files so that 1. a non su can start and use dosemu 2. how to change from the virtual directory dosemu starts in (when in KDE knosole) to a real dos logical drive (already mounted) where my applications exist. AGH!!! Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] Reiser Fs
My Italian is not good enough to answer in your language. The Reiser fs keeps copies of data before writing new data, so it can be restored to some semblance of usefulness after a disk crash (due to power loss, etc.) It's supposed to be a little slower, but if you have to fsck, it's supposed to be a __lot__ faster. Explore2fs will __not__ read the Reiser from Windows 9x or NT, AFAIK. Hope that helps. --doug At 10:58 PM 08/28/2000 +0200, you wrote: Voglio reinstallare Mandrake 7.1 e so che è possibile impostare il file suystem a Reiser Fs anziché ext2. Ora, siccome sono un newbie (moolto newbie) vorrei chiedervi la differenza fra i due file system e i vantaggi (e/o svantaggi) del reiser... ho letto che è un file system journaled ma non ho la più pallida idea di che cosa significhi. Grazie e ciao a tutti Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Netscape 4.75 problem
Hi, just lately my netscape navigator is not properly displaying the screen nor does the link works. It works after I logged on but then after a few tries, it just won't display anything or link is inoperable. I suspected that when I opened the other browser which is kdm and today I installed RealPlayer then after going through a few web site, navigator just dies on me. Is anyone having this problem. I just installed it last week. maybe I should go back to re-installing navigator 4.74. Rob
[newbie] OS Sucks-Rules-o-Meter
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Re: [newbie] PlexWriter 12x10x32
I have the Plexwriter 8x4x32, and it works fine. I don't think you will have any problems using the 12x- go for it Eunice On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, you wrote: I've sent an e-mail which did get replied to but there was an error in the reply. My question was whether Plextor's 12x10x32 CD-RW P/N: PX-W1210TA/SW is supported on Linux Mandrake 7.1 (Helium)? Will the driver "cdrecord" work for this device? I cannot find it in any of the Linux hardware compatibility lists. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- Eunice Thompson - Treasurer/Community Relations Cerritos Linux Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cerritoslug.org
[newbie] downloading
Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent
[newbie] drop dead thread--------was: Yo
It died. On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: die thread die! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/25/2000 07:11:23 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo Jason Ashman wrote: -- Hey Linux users. I am a Microsoft convert, Windows SUCKS! With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going than you ever would using windows. If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that windows does right out of the box so be it. First off its heartbeats and yes you might end up spending more time configuring your machine...main point is YOU are configuring your machine and not a sub standard non RFC following O/S. I never once thought Linux would be the "Windows" killer only becasue of a gret number of people who just are not interested as much in computers and how why they work. For those who *do* enjoy delving into their systems and having ALL the control over how things are delegated on a machine Linux has been a dream come true ... free *nix!! Those who can ... do, those who can't either whine or grab a spine and figure out why they can't, and rectify the problem with a solution either with help from others, or on their own. At one time I believed people who didn't *get* Linux and open source were just cattle running with the rest of the "well it works good enough for me" hurd ... I admit thats shallow and rude...Linux just isn't for everyone ... too bad we have to listen to them whine though =o\ if you dont like the o/s and want to complain ... maybe it would be better to join a Windows advocation mailing list and tell them...at least you might get some of the feed back you are looking for =o) -- Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today! LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using Windows, It's memory hungry and slow! Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today! Linux -Where Do You Want To Go Tomorrow! OpenBSD-Hey Are You Guys Coming Or What? I believe I have read this tag many ways but I like this one (even though I do not have and BSD installs running at the moment) ;-) Lonny Selinger
[newbie] Uninstall Linux
Hi! I've recently bought Linux-Mandrake 7.1 and installed it on my computer. I used the partition magic (included with the 3- cdrom set) and because I can't get the peripherals to work, I want to take Linux OFF the computer that I installed it on and get rid of the 3 gig partition that I made and restore Windows on that machine. I've checked the books that came with Linux 7.1 and find instructions for uninstalling Partition Magic and Boot Magic, but nothing on how to take Linux OFF the computer. Can someone help me??? Thanks!! Lynn Johnson Iowa -- "To HELL with empire, WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!!" Patrick J. Buchanan Reform Party presidential nominee August 12, 2000 Long Beach, Cal.
Re: [newbie] downloading
"Nijs, Vincent" escribió: Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent What about using a Getright-type program? 8-? -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Greg Stewart wrote: Um... 1, Gates created the first version DOS. --- snip Greg: Actually, Gates didn't actually create the first DOS -- at least not in the normal sense of "create". He bought it from a company called Seattle Microsystems (I think that was their name). They had written it as a 16 bit version of CP/M for use with their 16 bit computers -- real bleeding edge stuff in those days. The neat part of the story (and quite possibly totally inaccurate) is that some IBM executives went to Seattle to talk to Gary Kildall, the President of Digital Research and the author of CP/M) about licensing his CP/M-16 system, and then to see Bill about acquiring rights to MicroSoft Basic. Kildall (a genuine character, from all accounts) decided to play hard to get, and took off for Africa on a safari. Gates heard about all of this, so he called Seattle Microsystems and made them one helluva an offer. They took it. When the IBM guys showed up at Microsoft, Gates said, "Oh, by the way, would you be interested in my new operating system?" I don't know how much of the above is true (other than Gates did buy the original DOS from Seattle Microsystems), but it is a good story. -- Carroll Grigsby
RE: [newbie] Reiser Fs
Don't know the answer to this one...Ciao -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Reiser Fs Voglio reinstallare Mandrake 7.1 e so che è possibile impostare il file suystem a Reiser Fs anziché ext2. Ora, siccome sono un newbie (moolto newbie) vorrei chiedervi la differenza fra i due file system e i vantaggi (e/o svantaggi) del reiser... ho letto che è un file system journaled ma non ho la più pallida idea di che cosa significhi. Grazie e ciao a tutti Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] DOSEMU: How to start in 7.1?
In LM 7.1 DOSEMU won't start, not even when I'm root. It worked fine in LM 6.0, although like someone else just recently said, there didn't seem to be a way to access a real DOS partition, just a fake one.
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
But learning is the best part of the OS. It is what makes it more fun to use than Windows, because anyone can fix it without a $20,000 license for the source code, to see what makes it tick. And anyone can put in their code to make it better. Even if the code is only an idea for a future feature like making DOSEMU work for anyone out of the box. (fixing code and putting your own code in is exclusively for programers.) I totally agree and am not giving up on learning Linux. Learning an OS is one thing. Learning programming to be able to use it is another. It is the configuration issues that have been a stumbling problem for me and I am sure many others. I do not want to harp on DOSEMU (in which I am only interested because I wanted to "see" if I could run dos apps under linux) but if one goes to the howto, readme and man pages for dosemu (all of which I have spent hours on) they do require substantial programming experience to use them. So it becomes not just a matter of learning the OS (which is reasonable to expect) but one also has to learn programming as well. Below is an example on the etc/dosemu.config (which is needed to configure and use dosemu): # Notes for editing this section: # # In$_xxx = (n)n is a numerical or boolean value # = = # In$_zzz = "s"s is a string # # Please edit only beteen the brakets and quotes and keep the rest intact. #^^^ $_debug = "-a" # same format as -D commandline option # (but without the -D in front) $_features= "" # list of temporary hacks, see release notes in # the file ChangeLog. e.g "0:1 2:0", which means # to set feature_0 to 1 and feature_2 to 0. $_mapping= "" # prefered mapping driver, one of: # auto, mapself, mapfile, mapshm .. and here is an example for the etc/dosemu.users file (needed to configure who can use dosemu besides root: default_lib_dir= /var/lib/dosemu log_level= 0 root c_all # root is allowed to do all weird things nobody nosuidroot guest # variable 'guest' is checked in /etc/dosemu.conf # to allow only DEXE execution guest nosuidroot guest # login guest treated as 'nobody' ... I am sure this appears very simple and straightforward to "someone who can fix the code or put your own code in", but you have to admit they require some understanding of programming if one is not to make a total mess of it. That is the catch: -not just learning a new OS but ALSO needing to learn programming (not to mention compiling, etc.) just to use the OS. All of which I am doing, but it is probably too much to expect from 99% of potential users who are not programmers or have computer science degrees. It would be a shame to leave all those to Gates. After all we could have the ultimate open unrestricted system by eliminating the C interface and requiring users to be able to write machine code to be able to configure it - but that would cut out even more people than the present programmers interface does! Now let's be fair. I _WILL_ master this. I am just showing my frustration; and also my concern that a Linux interface should be forthcoming that will allow normal non-programmers to use the OS. I also understand that this is in the works and already great strides have been made which are amazing with more to come. The code will still be there for those who can use it and the simpler interface for those who need it. Excuse my frustration. I'm really on your side :-( Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Problem with SCSI Drives and eth0 on boot
I would avoid using Grub and go to Lilo until this was figured out. Sorry if I have not been very helpful, but I at least like to try so you not think your ignored :) On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, you wrote: Need Help. I'm running a HP Vectra XU with (1) 2GB ST3255ON ; (4) 18GB ST318416N SCSI drives and a Sony SCSI CDROM. The (4) 18GB disks are in an external HP1350SE tower. The SCSI controller is on the system board and is an Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI. All the drives are narrow channel. When I load MD7.1 with only the 2GB drive everything works on boot-up. When I load MD7.1 with all (5) SCSI drives the install completes without a problem. When I boot using Linux on Grup I get the following errros: Boot Done. Enabling symmetric IO mode...done. Enabling IO-APIC IRQs ... changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 16 KKernal panic : could not set ID ... In swapper task - not syncing ((the system hangs) When I boot using Linux-Up on Grup the system boots, however as the processes are started my eth0 will not start. I get: Bringing up interface eth0 - Delaying eth0 initialization..[failed] The system is fine all the devices are mounted and accessible - but I can't get to my network? I need help?
Re: [newbie] Netscape 4.75 problem
I am having the same problem with Netscape...the screen just goes blank and I can't do anything...is there some kind of timeout feature in Linux? Thanks.. At 11:28 AM 8/29/00 -0700, you wrote: Hi, just lately my netscape navigator is not properly displaying the screen nor does the link works. It works after I logged on but then after a few tries, it just won't display anything or link is inoperable. I suspected that when I opened the other browser which is kdm and today I installed RealPlayer then after going through a few web site, navigator just dies on me. Is anyone having this problem. I just installed it last week. maybe I should go back to re-installing navigator 4.74. Rob Stan "The Crippler" Wilburn Mid-Range Systems Engineer Rock Hill Telephone Company 803-323-6366 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] downloading
Dear Joan Tur, Could you please let me know what a 'Getright-type program' is? Best, Vincent -Original Message- From: Joan Tur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] downloading "Nijs, Vincent" escribió: Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent What about using a Getright-type program? 8-? -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Kathleen Dickason wrote: P.S. OS/2 does indeed rock. I used it when I first worked at IBM (dont work there anymore) and it was lovely. Then "upgraded" us all to Windows. Oh, the pain... Kathleen hmm...just one of many blunders IBM has made in the last 20 years. I hope they're getting it right these days. -- Mark
[newbie] RPM problem thanx
first off, thanks to Phil, Greg Joseph for answers to my last question. my brain hadn't quite realized that suffixes do not decide if a file is executable or not. maybe i can make some progress now=) or maybe not -- for my next question: i'm trying to install a RPM file from the command line (ok is it just me or are RPMDrake Kpackage lame. if i'm going to install a RPM from the GUI why can't i just browse the tree, find the RPM i want to install and click on it or something. both of these programs just confuse me. of course, actually i'm quite happy with a command line -- so there) anyhowz, when i type "RPM -i filename.rpm" i get back: "no such file or directory" yet when i do "ls" the file is quite certainly there. i tried using the whole file name with extension i matched the case still no dice. could this have something to do with permissions? but if i am root, permissions woudn't matter right? can't root go anyplace do anything? any thoughts? thanks much Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] error on boot-up
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Marcia Waller wrote: Dear Paul, Alan, Mark, Thank you for your help. I would definitely agree that my system is stalling as it's attempting to mount the 'root' file system in read/write mode. I typed the' linux single' and it made no difference. I have not found a way to get to a console or linuxconf. Hmmm could it be that you accidentally did something to fstab that the boot sequence does not like? Did you accidentally create a new little partition somewhere on disk? If the latter is the case, it can be that the root partition has been moved from where it was (like /dev/hda1) to the next partition (/dev/hda2). You could get into the system (in that case) by typing on the lilo prompt: linux root=/dev/hda2 to override the fstab entry. Just guessing, though. I think when you do a new install, and you have all things User-based (/usr and /home) on separate partitions, you could save a lot of things you already set up by not formatting these partitions, just the root partition. I have read and tried many things and none have worked. I suppose you have to choose Grub at installation and it is a little late now. Even when you initially set up lilo, you can install Grub afterwards by simply running it as root. Paul -- Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] linux freezes when close laptop cover
My linux Madrake 7.1 freezes when I close my laptop. Is this normal? I thought Linux was ulta-stable. I have a Dell Inspiron 7500. I have an Atlas Flyer that used to give a black screen of death on opening the cover again. However, if I closed the cover and re-opened it, everything was fine again... I'm running 7.0... Regards, Ozz.
[newbie] Number Nine Imagine Series 2
I am trying to set up 7.1 on a Dell Pentium Pro 200 with a Number Nine Imagine Series 2 video card. Although this is listed in the selection list during setup, MDK reports "no screens found" regardless of which resolution and monitor I try. Does anyone have any suggestions why this is happenin and how to fix it? I've never encountered this problem with a supposedly supported card before. Chris Slater-Walker == Chris Slater-Walker BA(Hons) CCNA MCSE Cisco, Windows NT, Linux, Samba, DNS French German Spoken == [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.slater-walker.net/ ==
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Jeff Malka wrote: Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for everyone, IMO. Choice is good... It is, but for an OS to survive it must attract and "keep" a sufficient audience, Otherwise it might have the same fate as OS/2 which is also an excellent multiuser stable OS. Do not ask why I am leaving OS/2, because I am not really, just learning a new OS and noting how it appears to a non programming guru. Well...that's a very different situation. OS/2 declined because IBM made a corporate decision to stop developing and supporting it, not because of any lack on its part. OS/2 was not as hot as it could have been. I seem to recall having to set up endless parameters in config settings for every application. This was WAY beyond the novice. As for the decline, I seem to recall that the next release (which would have been FAR better) was originally a joint IBM/Micro$oft project. The two had a problem seeing eye to eye and Micro$oft pulled out. (Micro$oft then proceeded to remove all IBM code from OS/3, replaced it with Micro$oft code, re-named it Win95 and the rest is history...). There never was much support for OS/2. Comparatively few applications were ever ported, and (compared to the competition at the time) was a real resource hog. Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie!
Hey Mark, it's a song to the tune of Start Me Up (Rolling Stones) that spoofs Win95, Bought Me Up! Pretty funny actually! Steve W. - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie! "Brisco County Jr." wrote: Here's another one too funny not to pass on to the group! (Takes bout a minute for the show to start) http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php3?id=1412 ok...what's the joke? I followed the URL and didn't see a thing. Using 4.75. I figured that would be enough to view something with plugins. What's up? -- Mark
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
"Austin L. Denyer" wrote: ~~ snip ~~ As for the decline, I seem to recall that the next release (which would have been FAR better) was originally a joint IBM/Micro$oft project. The two had a problem seeing eye to eye and Micro$oft pulled out. (Micro$oft then proceeded to remove all IBM code from OS/3, replaced it with Micro$oft code, re-named it Win95 and the rest is history...). There never was much support for OS/2. Comparatively few applications were ever ported, and (compared to the competition at the time) was a real resource hog. Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz. Not quite. OS/2 began as a joint project, but ended up split. IBM continued OS/2 development, and Microsoft created Windows NT (with much guidance from former DEC employees with VMS experience). Win95 came about much later, about the time OS/2 2.1 and Warp 3 were available. Although it required lots of memory (16MB ran it well, but 4 to 8MB was common at the time), it has always required less than Win95 and NT. Microsoft's marketing dominance relegated OS/2 to primarily mission critical apps, like those used in nuclear plants, ATMs, and financial institutions--and now custom set-top boxes for accessing the Internet. Believe it or not, OS/2 is still profitable to IBM: over $5M in profit the last year. Now back to the more relevant Linux programming.. Bob
Re: [newbie] downloading
Vincent, It sounds like you could use a download manager. Checkout Go!Zilla at http://www.gozilla.com/. It is fantastic. Or As a convenience to this list, I will burn MDK 7.1 onto two CD's at a cost of $6.50 for my time, my CD-R media, and shipping costs. If interested, just send me an E-mail requesting my mailing address. I'm not trying to make a fortune or get rich. It seems like a waste to download the iso images and just burn the 2-CD set for myself. I hope this will save someone some time and expense, Matt From: "Nijs, Vincent" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] downloading Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:25:24 +0200 Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, you wrote: I like Linux as it is. I don't give a shit about prime time. Linux is a learning experience, more like PBS. If it turns into Saturday morning cartoons, I'll go with something else. Call me a snob I don't care. BTW I am not a programmer. Phil Thats exactly my thoughts Phil. If Linux became 'Prime-time' and everything was made to run perfectly first time round then where would the learning experience be. This is one of the major paradoxes that the Linux distributors, promoters and programmers must face. For me Linux has recaptured the days of my youth when, with my ZX81 and later Spectrum, I would hide away for hours whilst typing in pages and pages of program from a games magazine or trying to teach myself basic. Then came Windows and I became a virtual zombie. Now thanks to Linux, whilst others down tthe local pub are discussing the finer arts of word processing and how to change their Windows 9x desktop colours, I'm wrangling with the complexeties of LiLo configuration, shell scripting and trying to teach myself C programing. I'm once again reliving those distant and hazy days of youth when my world revolved around a spongey rubber keypad and a 16k RAM pack precariously balanced against a school textbook. Linux has provided me with the answer of what can be done on those long cold wintery nights when all thats keeping me going is a full perculator of coffee and a sheer willfull desire to have this machine finally configured to my liking. So what if I'm red eyed and blurry the next day at work at least I can say that I know more about my system and computers in general than just knowing how to point at something and click. Andrew
Re: [newbie] Alas, my modem!
Knightmayre Computer Solutions wrote: Hi all, Got v7.0 up and running- went on a treat although I know I've still got loads to do on iti.e. only reading the DVD-ROM and not the CD-R and minor stuff like that, but that'snot too important atm. The thing is, my internal modem (yeah, yeah) doesn't appear to be a WinModem: it'san ESS ES56T-I , which is as far as I can acertain, a hardware varient of the good ol'PCI version, but can I get it to work? All I constantly get is 'modem is busy' so I have touse Windoze to go online. Can anyone also recommend a decent book to buy on Linux: I was thinking of Linuxfor Dummies *g* but would like to hear what others have to say. Cheers, Dave If you had it running in Windows, what com port did you use? Linux uses - /dev/ttyS0 com-1 /dev/ttyS1 com-2 /dev/ttyS2 com-3 /dev/ttyS3 com-4 If I had to buy a single book to start with, I would get "Running Linux" from O'Reilly. -- Barry :-)
Re: [newbie] downloading
GoZilla is spyware don't use it, try download excellorator plus, but neither one work with ftp servers - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] downloading Does it support resumable downloads? there is a program calls gozilla that will resume downloads and which works very well. There are also hundreds of similar programs that I haven't used. - Original Message - From: Nijs, Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: [newbie] downloading Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent
Re: [newbie] PlexWriter 12x10x32
I also have a PlexWriter I can't get it to work. So I installed a 2nd cd rom drive it works fine. What do I have to do to get the PlexWriter to work. - Original Message - From: "Eunice Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] PlexWriter 12x10x32 I have the Plexwriter 8x4x32, and it works fine. I don't think you will have any problems using the 12x- go for it
Re: [newbie] Viewing Source Code
You have to download the source code. The stuff you're trying to view is the executable file which only makes sense to the computer. So go to the website of the program you want to look at, and then download the .tar.gz file which should include all the source code. I was wondering how do I view the source code of any program. I tried using various editor and developing tools. All I got is a bunch of symbols and letters. How am I suppose to modify a program if I cant understands these multi symbols and letters? Rob -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] (OT) Windows 95: the Movie!
Do you have flash installed? It's a flash file. You can download the flash plugin from www.flash.com http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php3?id=1412 ok...what's the joke? I followed the URL and didn't see a thing. Using 4.75. I figured that would be enough to view something with plugins. What's up? -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] downloading
hi im a newbie actually i cant get mandrake loaded (7.1 for windows) so i guess i m a pre newbie the software trys to load but i get a two tone blue screen and it just sits there HELP john
Re: [newbie] Linux Digital Cameras II
mrc wrote: Has anyone succeeded in getting Linux (Gphoto) actually downloading digital images from a digital camera? I have failed both in Windows 95 and Linux to do this with my Fujifilm MS1200. Documentation warns that the software might not work where more than one operating system exists on the same harddrive. Anyone have similar experience? Michael Coady MichaelGphoto works just fine with my Ricoh RDC-300Z. But upon looking through the list of supported cameras (the place where you tell the software what camera you are using [in the configure pull-down menu]) and not finding yours (Fujifilm MS1200) I'm not particularly surprised that you can't get it to work. The closest model number I see to your Fujifilm MS1200 is a Fuji MX-1200. Probably it isn't a close enough match to allow the software to work with your camera. Does your camera use a standard serial port (supported) to connect to the computer or does it connect via USB (not supported)? As to multiple operating systems residing on a single hard drive, I don't see what effect that could have on the software. Alan
Re: [newbie] Wine: How to start?
wine [/path] /filename.ext i.e., wine /mnt/dev/hda1/aclt/acltwin.exe would mount and open autocad lite. I have had problems with the files directory associated, but the program opens. With more work, or copying the necessary files to a directory in Linux, things should work better. But that's the general idea. I'm just fooling with it now, but would like to get all of this stuff to work, not being all that happy with the MS attitude. . . . --doug At 08:36 08/29/2000 -0700, you wrote: Been trying to figure out Wine - how exactly do you use it? I can't get it to even start. Thanks
Re: [Re: [newbie] Soundblaster live sound card]
Default sound volume is extremely LOW, try raising the volume in the Mixer panel, and make sure your speakers are turned on/up. HTH Jaguar Stan Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried all of these things...the files appear to be playing on the player themselves but no sound comes out of the speakers...this setup does work in Windows, however, so speakers are turned on... At 05:32 PM 8/28/00 +0100, you wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Stan Wilburn wrote: I have a Soundblaster Live sound card that is recognized by Mandrake 7.1 and appears to be installed (it loads the EMU10K1 module or driver) but it does not work. Any suggestions? Thanks... How do you know it does not work? Did you try to "play ...wav" something? Did you switch on system sounds in your window manager? Have you tried to play audio CD's? Paul -- Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- Stan "The Crippler" Wilburn Mid-Range Systems Engineer Rock Hill Telephone Company 803-323-6366 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
[newbie] Petition
How many of you object to dialpad.com not supporting linux? Lets e mail them and tell them what we think of their unfair practice of discrimination against Linux users! It is the rights of the linux community to be able to use dialpad.com just as much as the windows users. Please e mail dialpad.com to express how you feel about this unfair discrimination. Go to http://www.dialpad.com or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] --not as likely to get response I feel. Or snailmail them Dialpad.com, Inc. 2953 Bunker Hill Lane, #400 Santa Clara, CA 95054 USA Thank you.
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
"Austin L. Denyer" wrote: Jeff Malka wrote: Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for everyone, IMO. Choice is good... It is, but for an OS to survive it must attract and "keep" a sufficient audience, Otherwise it might have the same fate as OS/2 which is also an excellent multiuser stable OS. Do not ask why I am leaving OS/2, because I am not really, just learning a new OS and noting how it appears to a non programming guru. Well...that's a very different situation. OS/2 declined because IBM made a corporate decision to stop developing and supporting it, not because of any lack on its part. OS/2 was not as hot as it could have been. I seem to recall having to set up endless parameters in config settings for every application. This was WAY beyond the novice. Wow. I didn't have to do any of that. My workstation had it preinstalled, but I found settings were easier to change and and configure than in Windows. It was much more intuitive for me. (I should mention, though, that OS/2 is *not* a multi-user OS, contrary to what Mr Malka wrote above.) As for the decline, I seem to recall that the next release (which would have been FAR better) was originally a joint IBM/Micro$oft project. The two had a problem seeing eye to eye and Micro$oft pulled out. (Micro$oft then proceeded to remove all IBM code from OS/3, replaced it with Micro$oft code, re-named it Win95 and the rest is history...). Yup, yup, yup. There never was much support for OS/2. Comparatively few applications were ever ported, and (compared to the competition at the time) was a real resource hog. To what are you comparing it, specifically? Boot time was far quicker than Windows, IIRC. Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz. *digs in her pockets, coming up with 2 cents and pocket lint* ;) Kathleen, OS addict
Re: [newbie] RPM problem thanx
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Re: [newbie] OS Sucks-Rules-o-Meter
Whoever you are: DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS TO THE LIST. NOT EVER! Of course I erased it. I'm not crazy. I don't need any viruses or other gadgets. DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS. NEVER! At 18:34 08/29/2000 +, you wrote: For anyone who hasn't seen this, it really is quite intersting http://srom.zgp.or
Re: [newbie] downloading
That's an excellent suggestion... www.cheapbytes.com has CDROMS of all the popular Linux OSs burned onto CDRs and they sell them for like $2 each. No Documents, no support, but just what you need to get going on Mandrake! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] downloading On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Nijs, Vincent wrote: I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? With a connect like that I would first suggest trying to find a copy on a magazine, or order one at www.cheapbytes.com Even a poor student should be able to manage that... Paul -- If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] RPM problem thanx
this isn't answering your command line question, but what you described about how you thought kpackage should work via the GUI is exactly how it works for me - I download the RPM file, click on it once, kpackage pops up and I click on the Install button - if it yells at me about dependancies, I fix those, and then all is fine - works like a charm for me. I'm not sure where the file type-executable associations are set up - I'm sure someone else can answer that and then maybe you will have more luck with the gui. cheers, philomena (different "phil"!) Adrian Smith wrote: first off, thanks to Phil, Greg Joseph for answers to my last question. my brain hadn't quite realized that suffixes do not decide if a file is executable or not. maybe i can make some progress now=) or maybe not -- for my next question: i'm trying to install a RPM file from the command line (ok is it just me or are RPMDrake Kpackage lame. if i'm going to install a RPM from the GUI why can't i just browse the tree, find the RPM i want to install and click on it or something. both of these programs just confuse me. of course, actually i'm quite happy with a command line -- so there) anyhowz, when i type "RPM -i filename.rpm" i get back: "no such file or directory" yet when i do "ls" the file is quite certainly there. i tried using the whole file name with extension i matched the case still no dice. could this have something to do with permissions? but if i am root, permissions woudn't matter right? can't root go anyplace do anything? any thoughts? thanks much Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] downloading
Vince, go to www.shareware.com and find an appropriate ftp utility that allows you to continue where you were cutoff. Also, because you are a student, I think you can find somewhere in the school to use higher bandwidth other than dial up speeds...The ISO image is something like 1.2GB because it is an ISO image of 2 CD Roms. My favorite tool for downloading is called ftpPRO. There is a Linux version as well (although not free under Linux either, but pretty good at it's job and I think stable enought to be worth the $40.00US). Best of luck! Also, keep reading this mailing list because there are some really smart people about installs here! Steve Weltman (from Beijing) - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] downloading Does it support resumable downloads? there is a program calls gozilla that will resume downloads and which works very well. There are also hundreds of similar programs that I haven't used. - Original Message - From: Nijs, Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: [newbie] downloading Dear Mandrake users, I am a poor PhD student trying to download Mandrake 7.1. I am using windows 2000 an IE5.5 and am having difficulties with the ftp server resetting the connection (5 minutes seems to be about the maximum I can hope for) and downloading the link files (e.g. files like 'basename', 'chmod' etc. in /Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Vincent
Re: [newbie] FW: help with setting up pppoE
Paul, you need to get a program called rp-pppoe-2.2.tar.gz from Roaring Penguin. Their web site is www.roaringpenguin.com. Download the newest version and install it per their instuctions. It's a very easy program to set up. Answer the 5 or 6 questions when you RUN the adsl-setup program (actually, it runs itself at the end of the questions) and you should be good to go. I use this program myself. When I first tried it out I could connect but couldn't move to any web pages. I found that I needed to add my ISP's dns server address to my /etc/resolve.conf and all was well. That done, I connect and surf to my heart's delight. To disconnect you type ADSL-STOP. Good luck. Oh, one other thing, pay VERY close attention to their 'how to connect' text file. This will help to resolve any other problems you may encounter. They really seem to know what they're talking about. :) Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Linux-Mandrake 7.0
[expert] Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer USB Drivers
After I read in either Linuxmag or Linux Journal that the Intellimouse Explorer was a good buy I have had my eye on them. Well I finally got one, and fixed my USB problem in Linux, but when the USB is initializing it says that none of the current USB drivers loaded supported this mouse. But I can see the lights light up on the mouse when the USB is detected so I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas or knows of any USB drivers that support the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer? I am currently running Mandrake 7.1. Thanks in Advance, (and I apologize for the several M-bombs that I had to drop) Jarrod
