Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
Sorry for the intrusion, I received a complaint about a user on our local system, is it your wish that I pull this user's acct? On Sunday 12 August 2001 08:09 pm, so spoke poogle: On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:16, you wrote: OK I guess no one cares about helping, I tried to put in as much as I knew, but no one was willing
Re: [newbie] installing Bastille
I would suggest checking that you have the Bastille-Tk-module rpm installled. -s On Sunday 12 August 2001 01:55 pm, you wrote: Thanks, s. I have tried running from the command line, and I get the message can't find Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC. Any ideas? Thanks again, Stan
Re: [newbie] joystick module
On Sunday 12 August 2001 02:09 pm, you wrote: I'm back to trying to make my joystick work. I made the proper entries in /etc/modules.conf but jstest won't detect the joystick. I tried loading the modules manually and when I did modprobe adi.c (for the logitech module) I received Can't locate module adi.c The adi.c module is located at /usr/src/linux-2.4.3/drivers/char/joystick/adi.c, and /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/adi.o.gz. What needs to be done? Thanks. TC Well, joysticks can still be a pain. However when modprobing, depmoding or insmoding one only uses the main name of the module without any suffix, such as: depmod adi I have the logitect wingman extreme digital that uses that module. It once worked off the sb live gameport, but a few weeks ago I installed a new hdd and then 8.0. It wouldn't work off the gameport then (admittedly I gave up pretty quick). ??? Anyway, mine has a usb adapter and it works fine off that. If you are trying to use sblive gameport with no success and have a usb adapter, try using that. Otherwise, just keep fiddling with it. Good luck. I used: alias char-major-13 joydev ns558 adi in my modules.conf when it did work off the gameport. -s
Re: [newbie] Postfix VS. Sendmail
I installed Webmin but I don't know how to use Webmin to configure Sendmail. Tuan, First, make sure webmin is in fact running by typing '/etc/rc.d/init.d/webmin status' (without the quotes, as root). If it is, it should show something like 'miniserv.pl (pid x) is running...' -- if not, it will show 'miniserv.pl is stopped'. If webmin isn't running, type '/etc/rc.d/init.d/webmin start' You should see a line stating 'Starting Webmin[ OK ]' You do not need to run webmin start if webmin is already running. Next, connect to https://localhost:1/ if you are on your machine. If not, it will be https://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:1/ (where aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd is your IP). A login box will popup on the screen. Type in 'root' as the user name and your root password in the password box. Click on ok. Next, click on the 'Servers' tab. Select 'Sendmail configuration'. This will bring up all the different sections of sendmail configuration. These are 1. Sendmail options - mail delivery and reception options (mail forwarding, local delivery, sending e-mail, and so forth) 2. Mail Aliases - edits the file /etc/aliases, allows you to configure which pseudo accounts get re-directed to which real accounts (for example, you can redirect webmaster to user). 3. Local Domains - useful if you have purchased the rights to a domain and are hosting it on your machine. Basically these are the domains for which this box will accept e-mail. 4. Domain Masquerading - This allows you to set the domain from which an e-mail sent from this server appears to come from (instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED], you can have [EMAIL PROTECTED]). 5. Trusted Users - If a local user tries to send email, sendmail will only allow the user to provide a different From: address if the user is on the Trusted user list. The restriction exists to prevent users from forging email with faked From: addresses originating from your system. 6. Address Mapping - Unless you have a domain (such as yourdomain.com), you will not need to configure this. This allows you to set things up such that either any e-mail going to the domain yourdomain.com is redirect to your actual e-mail account, or allows you to redirect [EMAIL PROTECTED] independently of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7. Spam Control - This controls which machines can send e-mail through your system. You can also add entries to discard e-mail from addresses which are sending you unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam). 8. Relay Domains - You can configure which domains you will allow e-mail to go to on your mail server. Again, unless you purchase multiple domains (yourdomain.com, and yourdomain.org), you will not need to configure this. 9. Mail Queue - Tells you whether or not any e-mail is queued and awaiting delivery. This isn't particularly useful, except perhaps to troubleshoot problems. 10. User Mailboxes - Tells you which users have e-mail. Again, not terribly useful information. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
we do care about helping, or we would not have wasted the time to read your mail, much less respond, but I would suggest that quite possibly you DID sound Me-AN, and still do, and sound as if what ever curve balls life has thrown you, should be cause to elevate your problems above the rest of the struggling mortals. You might be surprised to learn about the different handicaps almost everyone brings. I might also suggest that for some folks, attitude could be considered a handicap. If you think we know a lot but ain't telling you, then perhaps you are giving the credit to the wrong persons, since most of the time around here, a question that has enough informantion to provide an answer will get three or four answers, most of the time they are all correct, and not always redundant. I would also propose that in the eyes of some who read your posts, perhaps _YOU_ may be the one appearing to have a macho and the world owes me attitude. I also noticed at least one really good answer about deleting and reinstalling the modules for the SCSI card. Perhaps you have not received that mail from the server by the time you posted this. Calling boogerface to other newbies just trying to get enough information to start to trace a problem is not likely to get you the help you want. My mother always told me the most likely way to get people to say shitty things was to say shitty things to them, she also mentioned that if i do not want people to throw stones at me, I should not throw stones at them. (I sure think throw stones sounds so much more grown up than 'say shitty things, but that is just my opinion) By the way, I bet other people that wind up with the same problem you had could benefit by your perseverance and reporting what you do and did to correct your problem. I really tried and no one understands. I can really understand the frustration in your mails, but it might work better if you take a deep breath between each sentence, read what you wrote, and realize that we might NOT know right off what the problem you are having is. I would bet, very few of the people reading this will be able to intuit what your hardware consists of, even after reading the history of all your posts on the subject. We know you have a zip drive, and the moodel of it, but that's it. do you run a webserver and DNS and news server? Theese _might_ drain your system enough to slow down access on the zip. are you running a batch job in gimp of converting all the files in a 2 gig folder from *.gif to *.png? see what I mean? On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:16, Linux Newbie wrote: OK I guess no one cares about helping, I tried to put in as much as I knew, but no one was willing to even lift a finger, I'm sick of this elitist attitude I know alot but I'm not telling you What do you expect me to do just pull it out of my a$$? You could have been a little nicer and dropped the macho attitude, I did not come off mean, so why should you? I only reacted to that first boogerfaces useless info I knew he was not even trying and dammit I'M TRYING!!! I'm handicapped!! Some things are just not good enough for you freaking Bob Normals eh? Gee what a hell of a caring list!!! It used to be so nice here and no one would say shitty things and hurt your feelings. I really tried and no one understands. I quit! On Sunday 12 August 2001 07:34 am, so spoke etharp: and the info you provided for the correction to be figured out from was SOOOooo useful. correct it and that it was unacceptable, ain't much to go on. I know you must realize this is a list of folks Volunteering to help each other, with no compensations or warrenties, and if you want a reply that helps you, maybe you could help us by attempting to sound as polite as possible (since no one HAS to help, and you are _ASKING_ for [as opposed to buying] assistance), and to include as much info about your problem, your system, the error message as possible. On Sunday 12 August 2001 02:24, Linux Newbie wrote: O gee thanks for NOTHING!!! Care to give me any MORE USELESS information Ok correct it! (Sorry I couldn't resist, it sounds like you EXPECT an IMMEDIATE response, as if someone owes it to you...)
Re: [newbie] Home network Samba question
Michael D. Viron wrote: One question that keeps nagging at me and impedes my understanding is: Will the box that is acting as a gateway have a specific gateway IP address in addition to the address I've already given it? Yes. All Gateways have at least 2 IPs (sometimes more depending on how many networks they connect to). On the internal interface, you need to statically assign 192.168.1.1 That's what it is set to at the moment. What would be a correct setting for the 'gateway' IP, knowing the internet is accessed via a dialup connection? The Samba question is: In order for both Linux boxes to be seen by the Win9x boxes, my understanding is that both Linux boxes must be running Samba. IF this is correct, should one Samba box be set up as the 'Samba server' and the other be set up as the 'Samba client'? Nope, both machines must be running as samba servers. The Samba client is for connecting via smb to an existing samba (smb) server. Is there any inherent problem with having two Samba servers on a single LAN? Will there be any conflicts? Thanks, Michael Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] MDK 8.0 Partition sizes??
ok, I'll bite, why would you, and what was the problems you encountered On Sunday 12 August 2001 10:20, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 11 August 2001 09:38 pm, etharp wrote: Can't share /swap between MS products and real OS It can be done http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Swap-Space.html I did it once a few years ago. Believe me, it's not worth the hassle
Re: [newbie] grep -r *.c doesn't find files
On Sunday 12 August 2001 06:44 am, George Petri wrote: Surely, grep can do something this basic, can't it (didn't the author of grep write c programs too:)? I don't like find and its complexity very much. Recall that the tools in Unix are (or at least were at one point) designed to do one thing well, and do it simply. If there is a command that will return a list of files, there really isn't a need for that functionality to be put into another command that does something else. Unfortunately, find can be difficult to learn to use and it does have a lot of options. I tend to prefer something like : # grep whatever `find . -name *.c` By using the backquotes, that simply substitutes the filenames that find returns right into the grep command line. But that can be impractical as find could return a great deal of filenames (thus a very long command line). But it's easier to type :). It does turn out that the xargs solution is likely less stressful on the system. Grep actually can recurse - by using the -r switch on grep, it'll go through all files in a directory and directories within the parent directory (or matching filenames). 55 days? That's 2 months! My X seems to die under heavy loads -- under that load average of 51.29 on a single Pentium II, X didn' yeah, but I usually don't run the load average quite that high :). I don't think it's necessarily a case of the X server dying, but maybe the system is so stressed out that it's hard for it to respond to keystrokes or anything else. Recently I've noted a few tiimes where this has happened to me - sometimes by killing the X server and getting out of KDE I can reclaim the system. So far, I haven't had to reboot -- not in the last two months or so :). George -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
RE: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow?????
PAN seems to hold the message headers in RAM to do sorts and such. With 250,000+ message groups this can quickly max out RAM and it swaps like crazy... BTW: One of the great things about PAN (at least to me) is that it CAN deal with this many group headers!!! Other Winblows programs including FreeAgent, crap out at 10,000 messages... Pan has been so effective, that I've set up a system just to run it. Great stuff.. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:52 PM To: Jose M. Sanchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Richie de Almeida'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? I ain't no PAN ex-spurt either, but I would have thought that was mostly disk readding the files for the info in the cache and the stuff already wrote to the drive, not swap action. On Saturday 11 August 2001 16:46, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Well running PAN shoots your theory... 2-3 250,000 message newgroups and your system will be swapping for all it's worth... And it's only a client... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:15 PM To: Richie de Almeida; etharp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? As I mentioned below, you would only need over 256MB of RAM if you're doing something very memory-intensive, like complex graphics or multimedia work. For most uses, 256MB is more than enough. If you find that your swap is full while doing ordinary desktop work, something is wrong.
Re: [newbie] MDK 8.0 Partition sizes??
etharp wrote: snip Later, I may add additional Linux systems and plan to share the /home partition with them. The same user names and passwords will be used . Is there some way to insure that the user ID numbers will be the same in all systems? Is it just a matter of editing? good question I would like to know the answer if you find out Let's hope someone knows the answer... Is there any real benefit from having a swap file larger than 2XRAM and how about having more than one swap? I'm thinking of swap being shared by all systems? Dumb idea??? I have 64 MB RAM. Can't share /swap between MS products and real OS double the amount of ram to 256megs max normal Sorry, I should have said 'shared by all Linux systems' I'm thinking of passibly gaining a little speed by sharing the workload between the two hard drives.
RE: [newbie] Home network Samba question
Michael D. Viron wrote: One question that keeps nagging at me and impedes my understanding is: Will the box that is acting as a gateway have a specific gateway IP address in addition to the address I've already given it? Yes. All Gateways have at least 2 IPs (sometimes more depending on how many networks they connect to). On the internal interface, you need to statically assign 192.168.1.1 That's what it is set to at the moment. What would be a correct setting for the 'gateway' IP, knowing the internet is accessed via a dialup connection? --- If you are NOT using DHCP your OTHER machines (the one's without the modem/connection) will use the IP address of your internet connected machine's ethernet card as the gateway. I.E. 192.168.1.1 as Michael indicated. The internet connected machine is it's own gateway to the internet, so do not give it an explicit gateway address. If you've set the following ppp options... noipdefault defaultroute a ppp connection will automatically establish itself to 1) have no default IP, but instead use that assigned by the ISP, 2) use the modem connection as a default route to the internet... The Samba question is: In order for both Linux boxes to be seen by the Win9x boxes, my understanding is that both Linux boxes must be running Samba. IF this is correct, should one Samba box be set up as the 'Samba server' and the other be set up as the 'Samba client'? Nope, both machines must be running as samba servers. The Samba client is for connecting via smb to an existing samba (smb) server. Is there any inherent problem with having two Samba servers on a single LAN? Will there be any conflicts? --- No. I've set up 20 Samba servers on a single LAN... Although you should set up the unit likely to remain up the longest, as the browse master. This permits it to maintain the list of available shares in both winblows and Samba.. I normally kick up the os level of the browse master from 33 to 34 to insure that it wins the elections... You might also consider utilizing DOMAIN logins so that your Winblows machines need only use one login to access all the Samba resources... -JMS
RE: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow?????
Heh... I was being a bit facetious... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:14 AM To: Jose M. Sanchez; 'Richie de Almeida'; 'etharp'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? Ummm... I did say you would only need over 256MB of RAM if you're doing something very memory-intensive. I gave graphics or multimedia work as mere examples, and I made it clear that was the case. I said in an earlier post that 256MB of swap is fine for general use. I would hardly declare loading 2-3 250,000 message newgroups as general use.
Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow?????
Gee I was under the assumpption the hidden files and folders in /home/username/.pan would have been the stored headers and such. And that would have been the disk access seen when opening a folder On Sunday 12 August 2001 17:02, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: PAN seems to hold the message headers in RAM to do sorts and such. With 250,000+ message groups this can quickly max out RAM and it swaps like crazy... BTW: One of the great things about PAN (at least to me) is that it CAN deal with this many group headers!!! Other Winblows programs including FreeAgent, crap out at 10,000 messages... Pan has been so effective, that I've set up a system just to run it. Great stuff.. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:52 PM To: Jose M. Sanchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Richie de Almeida'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? I ain't no PAN ex-spurt either, but I would have thought that was mostly disk readding the files for the info in the cache and the stuff already wrote to the drive, not swap action. On Saturday 11 August 2001 16:46, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Well running PAN shoots your theory... 2-3 250,000 message newgroups and your system will be swapping for all it's worth... And it's only a client... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:15 PM To: Richie de Almeida; etharp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? As I mentioned below, you would only need over 256MB of RAM if you're doing something very memory-intensive, like complex graphics or multimedia work. For most uses, 256MB is more than enough. If you find that your swap is full while doing ordinary desktop work, something is wrong.
RE: [newbie] mp3 encoder missing???
Eh, I don't think this is accurate. MP3 formats nor the MPEG format are proprietary... It was defined by a consortium Which is why there are so many legal alternatives to Fraunhoffer's encoder... Fraunhoffer's encoder ITSELF is proprietary, not it's output. BTW: other MP3/MPEG encoders are available at RPMfind, which work great with grip and other programs... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 1:34 AM To: Kevin Fonner; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] mp3 encoder missing??? The MP3 format is patented by the Fraunhoffer (spelling?) Institute. If Mandrake included MP3 encoders they would have to pay royalties to Fraunhoffer. You can look up lame or bladenc at rpmfind.net, or for the latest versions you can compile your own. Better yet, use Ogg Vorbis. This format is 100% open source (so there are no royalties) and features twice the compression of MP3 with the same quality (or double the quality at the same size). On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:21, Kevin Fonner wrote: I noticed grip is part of the mandrake installation and so is cdpar* for ripping music off the cd. However why are their not any mp3encoder's installed nor on the cd's. Where can I get an rpm for mandrake to encode the mp3's? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
RE: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow?????
Yeah that's where they are written to... But while PAN is running it attempts to hold as much of the header list as possible in RAM, to quicken sorts (which it does all the time.) You can actually delete the file for a particular group, in the .pan directory, while it's running. As soon as you attempt to exit PAN, the file will get re-written from RAM. -JMS -Original Message- From: etharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 5:29 PM To: Jose M. Sanchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Richie de Almeida'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? Gee I was under the assumpption the hidden files and folders in /home/username/.pan would have been the stored headers and such. And that would have been the disk access seen when opening a folder On Sunday 12 August 2001 17:02, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: PAN seems to hold the message headers in RAM to do sorts and such. With 250,000+ message groups this can quickly max out RAM and it swaps like crazy... BTW: One of the great things about PAN (at least to me) is that it CAN deal with this many group headers!!! Other Winblows programs including FreeAgent, crap out at 10,000 messages... Pan has been so effective, that I've set up a system just to run it. Great stuff.. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:52 PM To: Jose M. Sanchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Richie de Almeida'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? I ain't no PAN ex-spurt either, but I would have thought that was mostly disk readding the files for the info in the cache and the stuff already wrote to the drive, not swap action. On Saturday 11 August 2001 16:46, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Well running PAN shoots your theory... 2-3 250,000 message newgroups and your system will be swapping for all it's worth... And it's only a client... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:15 PM To: Richie de Almeida; etharp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] isn't mandrake 8 slow? As I mentioned below, you would only need over 256MB of RAM if you're doing something very memory-intensive, like complex graphics or multimedia work. For most uses, 256MB is more than enough. If you find that your swap is full while doing ordinary desktop work, something is wrong.
Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install
On Sunday 12 August 2001 11:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote: Well, progress but I don't know whether it will stick or not. Are you absolutely sure that the 6326 card that you have is an AGP and not PCI? The way I read the video hardware compatiblility list, only the AGP version is supported. I have an SIS6326 AGP with 4meg on board, and I have no problems at all with it inXF86 ver 4.x eryl
Re: [newbie] Plancks constant... ;-(
On Saturday 11 August 2001 10:46 am, you wrote: PSS Anyone -ever- got Kwintv to compile and work under 8.0? Nope and I tried. I even had trouble trying to install the dependencies. I think the biggest insurmountable obstacle was with the version of qt it requires conflicting with the one mandrake currently uses. I know I had qt1 and 2 installed on 7.2, but it's a no go for me with 8.0. So anyway, xawtv works. If you work out this qt thing, come back and share. -s
RE: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
I succumbed to the dark side... It's power was irresistible... Help me Obi-wan... ;-) -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 4:43 PM To: Jose M. Sanchez; 'Linux Newbie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow On Saturday 11 August 2001 14:13, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Linux Newbie Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] zip250 way too slow As the resident A$$ around my house, I must say your sense of humour was a welcome waste of bandwidth.
RE: [newbie] mp3 encoder missing???
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Eh, I don't think this is accurate. MP3 formats nor the MPEG format are proprietary... It was defined by a consortium Which is why there are so many legal alternatives to Fraunhoffer's encoder... Fraunhoffer's encoder ITSELF is proprietary, not it's output. So why is bladeenc illegal in the US then? I thought that was not based on Fraunhoffers encoder? peace, Rog
RE: [newbie] using a Windows printer
What KIND of printer is it? -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stewart Taylor Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] using a Windows printer Hi All I recently installed V8. Initially the I could use the printer on a Win98 machine over my network , in fact it was better under Linux than Windows. Then I set up SMB using Samba and since then everything seems to work under Samba as it should except I can't use the printer at all. Everything looks as if it's working then after quite a delay I get a message about the printer not being ready. Any ideas please Stewart
Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install
can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set to off, and that you do not have any card next to the video card, and that the hard drives are set up as masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it could well be worth the time to set the jumpers a cables if you get this right). next i would consider a good test program for your ram. the differences in the install may have been choices you made as far as expert and recomended. I am no where near expericanced enough to decipher your error, but I bet someone here will in the next couple of days. On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote: Well, progress but I don't know whether it will stick or not. I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as mem=060. The istallation went very smoothly, although I was given a warning at the very beginning about being low on memory. The other things that I noticed was that there was no sight of a bar filling across the screen before going into second stage like in previous installs, just a hestitation. I never saw the number of programs that would be downloader, as I did before, but there was the picture show about all the great things I was getting, which I don't think I've been seeing lately. Also, that I did not need to insert the second CD at all. But the problem is that when I chose Sutdown (not Restart)I still got a message about segmentation fault rather than a complete termination at the end of the shutdown process. Ctr Alt Del at this point made the machine end and restart. So I tried restarting--no problem. This time I shut down and selected Restart (not Shutdown) and I saw no errors. But I remember this kind of behavior before for a while until it simply wouldn't restart after a while, so I'm still not sure that I'm OK. Here is what it said when it stopped the shutdown: Code: Bad EIP value. /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation fault halt -i -d -p - I decided to try reinstalling by cutting back on the memory setting even more, so I reinstalled with mem=055. It went through the whole installation fine, but could not start X, would only run in command mode. So I reinstalled once again with my mem=060 and everything is OK *for now* to the extent above. I plan to shut down now with the Restart option. Unless, that error message tells you that I have something I should do, I'll just wait and see if the fix holds or not. Thanks again. --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it must seem like I ask a BUNCH of questions, but the more info we have the more likely to find the problem. Have you tried the install with specifying a few lower meg ram than the amount you are reported to have? (At the splash screen hit F1 And type linux mem=xxxM without the quotes and with a number representing the RAM available as xxx. this was linux mem=120M after subtracting 8 meg from 128 meg reported do you have a card in the slot next to the video card (a no-no w/n agp video card) On Saturday 11 August 2001 20:01, Peter Rymshaw wrote: -what vidoe card do you have? is it onboard the MOBO? **It is a SIS PCI 6326VC4MAGP3D. It's a card plugged into one of the expansion slots. does it share memory from the MoBo? **I have no idea. are the hard drive set as master on there own ide channel? **The hard drives are master and slave on the first. is the CD ROM set to slave on it's own channel? **The CD ROM is *master* on the other channel. is the BIOS correctly ID the HD? **Yes. and do you have the same problems with winder$? **No. do you try and delete tmp files? **No, is that likely to matter? I will.. sounds like you might have problems with the pio or dma settngs on te hard drives, but could be a load of different things. what brand of HD? model? speed? how are you formating it? has this hosed the winder$ install? **One's a Maxtor, one's a Western. Don't know the models off hand. Been using either the Linux installation option or Partion Magic 4.0 to reformat the Linux Partions each attempt. Both drives were originally formated as FAT 32, but my for my most recent attempts I've formatted the entire drive for Linux. (PM shows just one partion, Ext2, occupying the whole drive. *Should I be seeing the swap and personal partitions seperately? I think I did at one time*. *Thanks. Does this info help any? Pete R. On Saturday 11 August 2001 13:44, Peter Rymshaw wrote: Segmentation errors or faults have prevented me from operating and now even installing Mandrake 8 (from 2 CD unpackaged version). From the beginning I had difficulties in installation, (sometimes while it was installing programs, sometimes during post-installation steps) , was eventually successful and had it
RE: [newbie] mp3 encoder missing???
I can't speak about this with any great authority... But WinAMP (and other US distributed players such as Sonique) include MP3 encoding modules which are not Fraunhoffer based and there have been no patent lawsuits concerning this. In fact if the MP3 format were proprietary EVERY MP3 encoder decoder would also need to pay royalties to Fraunhoffer. CDEX for instance advertises itself as a legal free encoder... How can this be if the MP3 format itself is proprietary. There are plenty of hardware MP3 encoding and decoding IC's which do not use Fraunhoffer AFAIK. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 5:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] mp3 encoder missing??? On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Eh, I don't think this is accurate. MP3 formats nor the MPEG format are proprietary... It was defined by a consortium Which is why there are so many legal alternatives to Fraunhoffer's encoder... Fraunhoffer's encoder ITSELF is proprietary, not it's output. So why is bladeenc illegal in the US then? I thought that was not based on Fraunhoffers encoder? peace, Rog
[newbie] Reinstalling without pain?
Recently I had a system crash that wiped out my LM7.2 desktop completely (the one with the cartoon penguins) and left me with only standard KDE -- which is okay, I guess, but I really want the other one back. After trying and failing to get help both here and via the MandrakeExpert feature of the LM website, I've decided to just bite the bullet and reinstall the OS. I have /home as a separate partition, so I don't think any of my users' (me and my SO actually) stuff will get blown away, but: Is there anything like a canonical list of files one should save before reinstalling? I'm thinking of stuff like /etc/ passwd, rc.local, etc. I can come up with a few of these myself without too much thought, but I bet one or two of you out there have already faced this problem and might have something to say about it Anything else I should keep in mind? Thanks! Mark Shaw
RE: [newbie] Reinstalling without pain?
dunno about everyone else, but I save /root (I have a nasty tendency to save stuff in there when working as root.) I also save /etc and /usr (or if its too big, just the apps and configs in there) and i save my www dir in /var I hang onto the copies only till I am competely sure that the new install works perfectly.. once I know that, I usually wipe the old files and do a backup of the new ones... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Shaw Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 6:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Reinstalling without pain? Recently I had a system crash that wiped out my LM7.2 desktop completely (the one with the cartoon penguins) and left me with only standard KDE -- which is okay, I guess, but I really want the other one back. After trying and failing to get help both here and via the MandrakeExpert feature of the LM website, I've decided to just bite the bullet and reinstall the OS. I have /home as a separate partition, so I don't think any of my users' (me and my SO actually) stuff will get blown away, but: Is there anything like a canonical list of files one should save before reinstalling? I'm thinking of stuff like /etc/ passwd, rc.local, etc. I can come up with a few of these myself without too much thought, but I bet one or two of you out there have already faced this problem and might have something to say about it Anything else I should keep in mind? Thanks! Mark Shaw
Re: [newbie] Home network Samba question
On Sunday 12 August 2001 21:31, Michael Picco wrote: Having just switched a pair of boxes from Mandrake 7.1 to 8.0, I've had my run of problems getting things working again. The setup here consists of four machines: Win98, Win95 and two Mandrake 8.0. They are all connected via a four-port hub as a local LAN. One of the Mandrake boxes has a modem hanging off of a serial port, which I hope to set up as the gateway box. Each box has an assigned IP address of the order: 192.168.1.x One question that keeps nagging at me and impedes my understanding is: Will the box that is acting as a gateway have a specific gateway IP address in addition to the address I've already given it? No, the IP u gave is fine. Also consider setting up SNF as your gateway, ie, Mandrakes Single Network Firewall. Look for it on Madrakes Products web page. Its a much securer option and it was made to fullfil that function. The Samba question is: In order for both Linux boxes to be seen by the Win9x boxes, my understanding is that both Linux boxes must be running Samba. IF this is correct, should one Samba box be set up as the 'Samba server' and the other be set up as the 'Samba client'? No, both should be running Samba server. Peace Amien Salie
Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install
This is in reply to both of your messages. As I thought, I appear to have a PCI video card. My computer shop receipt says that they installed SiS 6326 PCI VC4MAGP3D S# B46N3151, which I think is ambiguous, but the card is definitely plugged into a PCI slot and my AGP slot inside ib the board is empty. I was going to ask you a series of questions regarding my vidio card replacement options re Sis/other/AGP/PCI, but your next message and some of my own thinking prompts me to go in another direction. Do you think maybe I can stay with this card even though it is a PCI? Is does seem to be working. Mandrake Control Center reports it as Sis 6326 (no reference to AGP or PCI). Furthur, it has me using XFree 4.0.6., but presents options of 3.3.6., 3.3.6. Experimental, and 4.0.6.Experimental (all of which might freeze the computer. Danger!) I was going to ask you about these and how I could change back to my current setting from the command line if I tried it and failed. But now I see your latest message. Do you think I should try the other changes to my hardware? That is, do you think that I still might be able to work things out with existing card? Sorry to take up so much time, if you're not sure, I'll just go ahead and try and see how it goes. Thanks. --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set to off, and that you do not have any card next to the video card, and that the hard drives are set up as masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it could well be worth the time to set the jumpers a cables if you get this right). next i would consider a good test program for your ram. the differences in the install may have been choices you made as far as expert and recomended. I am no where near expericanced enough to decipher your error, but I bet someone here will in the next couple of days. On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote: Well, progress but I don't know whether it will stick or not. I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as mem=060. The istallation went very smoothly, although I was given a warning at the very beginning about being low on memory. The other things that I noticed was that there was no sight of a bar filling across the screen before going into second stage like in previous installs, just a hestitation. I never saw the number of programs that would be downloader, as I did before, but there was the picture show about all the great things I was getting, which I don't think I've been seeing lately. Also, that I did not need to insert the second CD at all. But the problem is that when I chose Sutdown (not Restart)I still got a message about segmentation fault rather than a complete termination at the end of the shutdown process. Ctr Alt Del at this point made the machine end and restart. So I tried restarting--no problem. This time I shut down and selected Restart (not Shutdown) and I saw no errors. But I remember this kind of behavior before for a while until it simply wouldn't restart after a while, so I'm still not sure that I'm OK. Here is what it said when it stopped the shutdown: Code: Bad EIP value. /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation fault halt -i -d -p - I decided to try reinstalling by cutting back on the memory setting even more, so I reinstalled with mem=055. It went through the whole installation fine, but could not start X, would only run in command mode. So I reinstalled once again with my mem=060 and everything is OK *for now* to the extent above. I plan to shut down now with the Restart option. Unless, that error message tells you that I have something I should do, I'll just wait and see if the fix holds or not. Thanks again. --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it must seem like I ask a BUNCH of questions, but the more info we have the more likely to find the problem. Have you tried the install with specifying a few lower meg ram than the amount you are reported to have? (At the splash screen hit F1 And type linux mem=xxxM without the quotes and with a number representing the RAM available as xxx. this was linux mem=120M after subtracting 8 meg from 128 meg reported do you have a card in the slot next to the video card (a no-no w/n agp video card) On Saturday 11 August 2001 20:01, Peter Rymshaw wrote: -what vidoe card do you have? is it onboard the MOBO? **It is a SIS PCI 6326VC4MAGP3D. It's a card plugged into one of the expansion slots. does it share memory from the MoBo? **I have no idea. are the hard drive set as master on there own ide channel? **The hard drives are master and slave on the first. is the CD ROM set to slave on it's own channel? **The CD ROM is *master* on the other
Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8
I can't get midi files to play, except in sndconfig. See other responses
below. I don't know what most of this means. Thanks for your help.
On Friday 10 August 2001 2:36, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
Adams, Jamie wrote:
It seems odd that you are only getting 'snippets' of sound. Is it
possible that there is an IRQ or DMA conflict somewhere?
snip
Yes, I think that might well be the case. Btw, we're talking about
an old ISA SB16, and not the relatively new SB16 PCI I think...
It's definitely an old ISA card.
The Creative Labs names sometimes cause confusion :)
The driver seems to be loaded ('snippets' of sound); check with
'/sbin/lsmod | grep sb' .
Here's what I get
sb 7136 1
sb_lib 33120 0 [sb]
uart401 6224 0 [sb_lib]
sound 54256 1 [sb_lib uart401]
soundcore 3504 5 [sb_lib sound]
usb-ohci 14496 0 (unused)
usbcore47248 1 [usb-ohci]
Use 'cat /proc/interrupts'
Here's what I get
CPU0
0: 288781 XT-PIC timer
1: 4523 XT-PIC keyboard
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 0 XT-PIC soundblaster
9: 5973 XT-PIC usb-ohci, eth0
12: 216728 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse
14: 20301 XT-PIC ide0
15:498 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
ERR: 0
and 'cat /proc/dma' to check for IRQ and
DMA problems.
and here's what I get there.
1: SoundBlaster8
4: cascade
5: SoundBlaster16
In your first mail you said: 'The midi track played fine' ,
referring to 'sndconfig'. Can you now play a midi file ?
-Frans
[newbie] wu-FTP and RedHat7.1
By default, it seems remote hosts aren't able to connect. I attempt to, but it just sits there, no messages or anything. I'm not sure what's causing this, any hints?
Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
I don't think there has been the sort of abuse that one would wish to have an acct pulled for. At least not that I have seen. Of course the only thing that would justify pulling an acct. (for me) would be spam or M$ viruses comming from or through the domain. Heck this does not look like _MY_ idea of Internet-Abuse. If someone cannot spout off or flame a little when frustrated, the next step might in blowing off steam might be a little less desirable? On Sunday 12 August 2001 16:29, Abuse Spam control Department wrote: Sorry for the intrusion, I received a complaint about a user on our local system, is it your wish that I pull this user's acct? On Sunday 12 August 2001 08:09 pm, so spoke poogle: On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:16, you wrote: OK I guess no one cares about helping, I tried to put in as much as I knew, but no one was willing
Re: [newbie] wu-FTP and RedHat7.1
hmmm am _I_ losing it, or is this weekend seem to be full of short incomplete questions expecting intuitive answers? maybe more of a hint as to when and where and who and how and how much? On Sunday 12 August 2001 20:40, Greg Taylor wrote: By default, it seems remote hosts aren't able to connect. I attempt to, but it just sits there, no messages or anything. I'm not sure what's causing this, any hints? Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
RE: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
This Abuse Spam control is from kittypuss.org not mandrake, so it has nothing to do with the list, AFAIK. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:15 PM To: Abuse Spam control Department; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow I don't think there has been the sort of abuse that one would wish to have an acct pulled for. At least not that I have seen. Of course the only thing that would justify pulling an acct. (for me) would be spam or M$ viruses comming from or through the domain. Heck this does not look like _MY_ idea of Internet-Abuse. If someone cannot spout off or flame a little when frustrated, the next step might in blowing off steam might be a little less desirable? On Sunday 12 August 2001 16:29, Abuse Spam control Department wrote: Sorry for the intrusion, I received a complaint about a user on our local system, is it your wish that I pull this user's acct? On Sunday 12 August 2001 08:09 pm, so spoke poogle: On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:16, you wrote: OK I guess no one cares about helping, I tried to put in as much as I knew, but no one was willing
Re: [newbie] MDK 8.0 Partition sizes??
On Sunday 12 August 2001 03:58 pm, etharp wrote: ok, I'll bite, why would you, Out'a curiosity more'n anything else and what was the problems you encountered As the howto warns, it's just too damn complicated. Does work tho On Sunday 12 August 2001 10:20, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 11 August 2001 09:38 pm, etharp wrote: Can't share /swap between MS products and real OS It can be done http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Swap-Space.html I did it once a few years ago. Believe me, it's not worth the hassle -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install
well,,, maybe Don't worry about my time, I am here of my own free will and enjoy it for the heck of it and the learning I receive for free. it seems to me we might be getting some where tho, is the card in the slot next to the AGP slot? It should be, and that would be the first thing to try if it is not. have you tried (when running linux, in a text console, as root, without the quotes) cat /proc/pci and cat /proc/interupts for more information about possible pci and IRQ asingnments and confilcts? I would bet you can still use the card, depending on how great graphics you need, (and that is without checking the hardware list at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3) but I bet you will get a few folks to tell you for hi-end video cards Ge-force w/nvida chips is da way to go. On Sunday 12 August 2001 1903:30, Peter Rymshaw wrote: This is in reply to both of your messages. As I thought, I appear to have a PCI video card. My computer shop receipt says that they installed SiS 6326 PCI VC4MAGP3D S# B46N3151, which I think is ambiguous, but the card is definitely plugged into a PCI slot and my AGP slot inside ib the board is empty. I was going to ask you a series of questions regarding my vidio card replacement options re Sis/other/AGP/PCI, but your next message and some of my own thinking prompts me to go in another direction. Do you think maybe I can stay with this card even though it is a PCI? Is does seem to be working. Mandrake Control Center reports it as Sis 6326 (no reference to AGP or PCI). Furthur, it has me using XFree 4.0.6., but presents options of 3.3.6., 3.3.6. Experimental, and 4.0.6.Experimental (all of which might freeze the computer. Danger!) I was going to ask you about these and how I could change back to my current setting from the command line if I tried it and failed. But now I see your latest message. Do you think I should try the other changes to my hardware? That is, do you think that I still might be able to work things out with existing card? Sorry to take up so much time, if you're not sure, I'll just go ahead and try and see how it goes. Thanks. --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set to off, and that you do not have any card next to the video card, and that the hard drives are set up as masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it could well be worth the time to set the jumpers a cables if you get this right). next i would consider a good test program for your ram. the differences in the install may have been choices you made as far as expert and recomended. I am no where near expericanced enough to decipher your error, but I bet someone here will in the next couple of days. On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote: Well, progress but I don't know whether it will stick or not. I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as mem=060. The istallation went very smoothly, although I was given a warning at the very beginning about being low on memory. The other things that I noticed was that there was no sight of a bar filling across the screen before going into second stage like in previous installs, just a hestitation. I never saw the number of programs that would be downloader, as I did before, but there was the picture show about all the great things I was getting, which I don't think I've been seeing lately. Also, that I did not need to insert the second CD at all. But the problem is that when I chose Sutdown (not Restart)I still got a message about segmentation fault rather than a complete termination at the end of the shutdown process. Ctr Alt Del at this point made the machine end and restart. So I tried restarting--no problem. This time I shut down and selected Restart (not Shutdown) and I saw no errors. But I remember this kind of behavior before for a while until it simply wouldn't restart after a while, so I'm still not sure that I'm OK. Here is what it said when it stopped the shutdown: Code: Bad EIP value. /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation fault halt -i -d -p - I decided to try reinstalling by cutting back on the memory setting even more, so I reinstalled with mem=055. It went through the whole installation fine, but could not start X, would only run in command mode. So I reinstalled once again with my mem=060 and everything is OK *for now* to the extent above. I plan to shut down now with the Restart option. Unless, that error message tells you that I have something I should do, I'll just wait and see if the fix holds or not. Thanks again. --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it must seem like I ask a BUNCH of
[newbie] 2.4.7 kernel
I remember civileme saying that hard drives were limited to ata33 in Mandrake 8.0 because of some problem in the kernel with the Via chipset. Does anyone know if this has been fixed in the 2.4.7 kernel? If so, has anyone compiled the 2.4.7 kernel (mandrake version from cooker) and found that they could use ata100? Thanks. TC __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
yep, but it Appears to me that it went to the list as a result of a mail to the list from someone whom Jose Sanchez answered: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Linux Newbie Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] zip250 way too slow the zip250 used to have good speed, but now is way too slow, this is not acceptable and must be corrected. Ok correct it! (Sorry I couldn't resist, it sounds like you EXPECT an IMMEDIATE response, as if someone owes it to you...) On Sunday 12 August 2001 21:49, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: This Abuse Spam control is from kittypuss.org not mandrake, so it has nothing to do with the list, AFAIK. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:15 PM To: Abuse Spam control Department; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow I don't think there has been the sort of abuse that one would wish to have an acct pulled for. At least not that I have seen. Of course the only thing that would justify pulling an acct. (for me) would be spam or M$ viruses comming from or through the domain. Heck this does not look like _MY_ idea of Internet-Abuse. If someone cannot spout off or flame a little when frustrated, the next step might in blowing off steam might be a little less desirable? On Sunday 12 August 2001 16:29, Abuse Spam control Department wrote: Sorry for the intrusion, I received a complaint about a user on our local system, is it your wish that I pull this user's acct? On Sunday 12 August 2001 08:09 pm, so spoke poogle: On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:16, you wrote: OK I guess no one cares about helping, I tried to put in as much as I knew, but no one was willing
Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8
Yes, I believe it is in the shared slot with the PCI. but the real question I _meant_ to ask was that there was nothing in the other shared slot. open KDE Control Center=Sound=Sound Server and made the default the sound driver (neither ALSA nor autodetect) then logged out an rebooted. Ok, if it says neither ALSA nor autodetect and there is one other choice, why would you choose autodetect, since that was part of neither? have you tried OSS? damn that sounded a little to much like the father in me, I do not mean to sound so gruff. Excuse me please. This part confused me. I don't have default sound driver as an option here. Sound I/O Method is currently set to autodetect. My only choices are autodetect, Open sound system, and No audio input/output. I have no other choices. Might you have some servers or mail checking going on in the forground that may be using all the CPU resources for a few seconds? what version of Mandrake are you running? just because you did not start them, does not mean you do not have servers running. In Mandrake, servers are running when you start up, by default, as long as you installed them when you installed the OS and have not made sure they do not start at boot and are turned off as you work. I'm running Mandrake 8.0 with the 2.4.3-20mdk kernel. I've tried this nothing running at all after a fresh boot. I've been poking around some more. Only part of the soundcard is recognized. The multimedia controller is all that is working. The other three parts (game controller, midi, and something else) are reserved but not operational. They're listed under the unknown device class in the KDE System control center. The part that is shown as working has NO DRIVER INSTALLED. Thanks for all of your help. On Thursday 09 August 2001 23:24, Linus Drouhard wrote: Disabling ASLA on boot had no effect...still no sound. MP3's won't run. Any player I try just sits there. I push play it sits there. Something, maybe unrelated to the sound system itself has got in the way?? CD's play from the CD player ok. I'll keep playing with this, but if anyone has any more good ideasThanks On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote: To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs. I also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there. I don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux). I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's. I've not tried any other audio format. I'll try what you said, ALSA was checked to start, but not running. Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to reboot. thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really slow...for another post... On Tuesday 07 August 2001 5:31, etharp wrote: let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if kmix was installed? do you have the available hard drive space to install it? do not install more sound drivers (as far I rememrber, alsa and OSS conflict, and you may already have some conflicting sound problems). in fact, in this case, the answer may be as likely to uninstall a sound service as to install one. this is a partial quote from a report by someone whom knows ALOT more about this stuff than I do. Mandrake Control Center = System = Services and unchecked at boot for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and wasn't running anyway. Then I opened KDE Control Center=Sound=Sound Server and made the default the sound driver (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged out an rebooted. Sound was afterwards fine. On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote: Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was off). I tried to find Kmix, don't have it. I did get CD Player to work. But I cannot get XMMS to work. It still scrolls the MP3 title and sits there. It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to stop it. In fact, just about any of the sound applications freeze when I try to exit them. None (but CD Player) work. Could there be a setting somewhere that has been accidentally switched, effectively killing my card? I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights with WINE (and then disappointed at the results) several more nights with SANE (didn't get that to work right and gave up, at least for now) and now ALSA, I want something to go easy. The mini-howto on ALSA is 29 pages and its for kernel 2.2, not the 2.4.3 that comes with Mandrake 8.0. I'm not sure I want to tackle that now. Please help a newbie in distress. On Sunday 05 August 2001 5:21, etharp wrote: run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable
Re: [newbie] MDK 8.0 Partition sizes??
both _great_ reasons if you ask me, thanks, learned somthing again. (ain't Mandrake-linux grand, it even helps keep old farts like me from suffering from Alzhiemers to soon. It does not keep you from it, just the suffering grin) On Sunday 12 August 2001 22:08, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 12 August 2001 03:58 pm, etharp wrote: ok, I'll bite, why would you, Out'a curiosity more'n anything else and what was the problems you encountered As the howto warns, it's just too damn complicated. Does work tho On Sunday 12 August 2001 10:20, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 11 August 2001 09:38 pm, etharp wrote: Can't share /swap between MS products and real OS It can be done http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Swap-Space.html I did it once a few years ago. Believe me, it's not worth the hassle
Re: [newbie] zip250 way too slow
On Sunday 12 August 2001 01:16 pm, Linux Newbie wrote: OK I guess no one cares about helping, I tried to put in as much as I knew, but no one was willing to even lift a finger, I'm sick of this elitist attitude I know alot but I'm not telling you What do you expect me to do just pull it out of my a$$? No, please don't There's more'n several reasons why a query will garner less than desired reponses o snippy or demanding attitude o posted in other than plain text format o more'n one query in a single post o it's evident the answer is as plain as day and is available from many prominent sources o nobody has had the proposed problem before o overly verbose questions o obscure, or little used hardware involved o it's Sunday an we're all in church o it's not Sunday an we're all drunk, foolin around, or otherwise engaged o other, depending on the mood we're in It's also important to understand that there's no answers available from this list, only opinions. Some of them just happen to be, or are intended to be helpful ; -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8
I think we're heading down the wrong path. I've checked another place in KDE and there aren't ANY drivers installed for the Soundblaster! HardDrake sees it incorrectly and won't load the drivers. I tried manually. Thanks for your patience. Here are the answers to your questions below. Maybe something will come up. On Sunday 12 August 2001 9:22, etharp wrote: Yes, I believe it is in the shared slot with the PCI. but the real question I _meant_ to ask was that there was nothing in the other shared slot. No, there isn't physical room to put a card in each slot. open KDE Control Center=Sound=Sound Server and made the default the sound driver (neither ALSA nor autodetect) then logged out an rebooted. Ok, if it says neither ALSA nor autodetect and there is one other choice, why would you choose autodetect, since that was part of neither? have you tried OSS? damn that sounded a little to much like the father in me, I do not mean to sound so gruff. Excuse me please. No problem. I didn't understand that the sound driver and Sound I/O Method were the same, since in KDE System Control under the Properties of Creative SB16 PnP Audio there is no driver installed. I thought I was in the wrong screen. This part confused me. I don't have default sound driver as an option here. Sound I/O Method is currently set to autodetect. My only choices are autodetect, Open sound system, and No audio input/output. I have no other choices. Might you have some servers or mail checking going on in the forground that may be using all the CPU resources for a few seconds? what version of Mandrake are you running? just because you did not start them, does not mean you do not have servers running. In Mandrake, servers are running when you start up, by default, as long as you installed them when you installed the OS and have not made sure they do not start at boot and are turned off as you work. OK. On this, I have to plead ignorance. What should I be looking for here? To my knowledge I don't have any mail servers running. I am running Samba. Everything else seems to run fine. I'm running Mandrake 8.0 with the 2.4.3-20mdk kernel. I've tried this nothing running at all after a fresh boot. I've been poking around some more. Only part of the soundcard is recognized. The multimedia controller is all that is working. The other three parts (game controller, midi, and something else) are reserved but not operational. They're listed under the unknown device class in the KDE System control center. The part that is shown as working has NO DRIVER INSTALLED. Thanks for all of your help. On Thursday 09 August 2001 23:24, Linus Drouhard wrote: Disabling ASLA on boot had no effect...still no sound. MP3's won't run. Any player I try just sits there. I push play it sits there. Something, maybe unrelated to the sound system itself has got in the way?? CD's play from the CD player ok. I'll keep playing with this, but if anyone has any more good ideasThanks On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote: To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs. I also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there. I don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux). I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's. I've not tried any other audio format. I'll try what you said, ALSA was checked to start, but not running. Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to reboot. thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really slow...for another post... On Tuesday 07 August 2001 5:31, etharp wrote: let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if kmix was installed? do you have the available hard drive space to install it? do not install more sound drivers (as far I rememrber, alsa and OSS conflict, and you may already have some conflicting sound problems). in fact, in this case, the answer may be as likely to uninstall a sound service as to install one. this is a partial quote from a report by someone whom knows ALOT more about this stuff than I do. Mandrake Control Center = System = Services and unchecked at boot for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and wasn't running anyway. Then I opened KDE Control Center=Sound=Sound Server and made the default the sound driver (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged out an rebooted. Sound was afterwards fine. On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote: Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was off). I tried to find Kmix, don't have it. I did get CD Player to work. But I cannot get
[newbie] kinda OT: making KDE2.x themes
I've been looking all over for information on making themes for KDE2.x, but haven't found anything. I thought I'd try here and see if anyone has any ideas. I can find mountains of information on KDE1.x themes, which helps. But packaging it all together is done differently between 1 and 2. I guess KDE1.x themes are just a tarball, but KDE2.x uses special *.ktheme binary files, which I'm totally clueless on. Matt
[newbie] Second VFAT partition invisible in MDK
Hello: I have Mandrake-Linux pretty much how I would like it to be. I've spent on and off for about several weeks tweaking the thing (and having to do a few reinstalls). The only thing that I would like to know is this: I've created two Windows partitions. One holds the OS to boot from, the other is the d:drive to hold data files. I tried looking this up in a HOWTO, but it seems that the section in question was left unfinished. What is it that I need to do to get Linux not only to see my VFAT data partition, but to have it recognize during the boot process? fdisk in Linux recognizes the drive, but doing df only sees both the Linux root partition and the Windows OS partition. Please advise on how to proceedthanks! = Velanche Stewart *[EMAIL PROTECTED] *http://www.thegrid.net/velanche __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] 2.4.7 kernel
On Sunday 12 August 2001 09:19 pm, Terry C wrote: I remember civileme saying that hard drives were limited to ata33 in Mandrake 8.0 because of some problem in the kernel with the Via chipset. Does anyone know if this has been fixed in the 2.4.7 kernel? Just to be clear, the VIA-IDE bug isn't a kernel problem, it affects all OS's. It's a hardware bug. All hardware, specially chipsets have erratta. Most just go unnoticed by the the user. Those that do surface usually get a software or firmware fix (ie, bios upgrade). The VIA chip has a rarely experienced problem with cross IDE large file (100mb) tranfers. I believe most of the hype surrounding the VIA problem is just that... hyperbole. That said ... Excerpt from 'dmesg': .. Linux version 2.4.7-13mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release / Linux-Mandrake 8.1)) #1 Thu Aug 9 16:03:41 CEST 2001 | | Applying VIA southbridge workaround. | | .. (I have an AMD approved Soyo k7vta pro VIA kt133a chipset Mboard) If so, has anyone compiled the 2.4.7 kernel (mandrake version from cooker) and found that they could use ata100? I compiled a 2.4.7-13dk from source which was sucessful, made a initrd for it, edited lilo, and such ... but it panic'd on boot. Didn't bother with it. I d/l'd the ready made kernel-2.4.7-13mdk an installed it. I was hoping to fix 2.4.5's aversion to supermount, but it's still broken with 2.4.7-13, MOF it's not even there. So I went back to my good 'ol tried an true alias mcd=mount /dev/cdrom alias ucd=umount /dev/cdrom in bashrc As is my habit with a new kernel, I took a look at 'dmesg' (above) and for the first time saw the 'Applying VIA southbridge workaround.' line. So next thing I did was a 'hdparm -i' on my HDD's and saw they were now *udma5 (ata/100) enabled. now for my usual rant ; The drives were gettin about 22 to 24mb/sec on ata/33 (udma2, hdparm -t), now they get 28 to 30mb with ata/100 BFD. ata/66 and /100 are nothin but Wintel hype. Real world tranfers are not improved, MOF, I think they're a touch slower. hdparm is not a good bench, it measures burst rates, which have little to do with reality. I regularly load a dir with 37,000 .jpg files in it that average 100k each. Now that my HDD's are running ata/100, it takes a few seconds longer to load that dir than when they were on ata/33. FWIW, I'd advise those using 2.4.5 to upgrade to 2.4.7. For those usin a stock 8.0 kernel (2.4.3), leave well enough alone unless you believe you're experiencing the VIA-IDE bug. You're probly not, but at least you can't blame it anymore ;) I wasn't, I'm just an upgrade-aholic ; -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay
[newbie] Fw: Cron root@tbird run-parts /etc/cron.daily
Hi everyone, Since a few days I get this message from Cron: Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 04:02:52 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron root@tbird run-parts /etc/cron.daily error: syslog:181 duplicate log entry for /var/log/syslog I've looked in the syslog file, and at times I encounter a line like this: Aug 5 08:43:44 tbird last message repeated 10 times Is this what the cron daemon is complaining about? Anyone know where this comes from? And how to fix it? I don't feel it is system threatening, but it is a bit annoying. Paul -- The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. -George Bernard Shaw http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
[newbie] ISDN USB configuration
HI The Mandrake 8.0 can't recognize the ISDN USB Siemens Santis Communicator do any one now how I' can it work -- Thank you. Ebrahim Elmahdy mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Second VFAT partition invisible in MDK
On Sunday 12 August 2001 10:53 pm, Velanche Stewart wrote: The only thing that I would like to know is this: I've created two Windows partitions. One holds the OS to boot from, the other is the d:drive to hold data files. Same thing I just did. You need to edit /etc/fstab and add the second Winblows partition. As an example here's my Winblows lines /dev/hda1 /c vfat user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hda5 /d vfat user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 To make things simple, I just brought up fstab in Kwrite (as root), copied my hda1 line, pasted it back in on another empty line, then edited the dev (/dev/hda5) and the mount point (/d) keeping the same options that my C:\ drive (hda1) has. Running 'mount -a' or rebooting will then make your D:\ drive visible in Linux. You can see by my fstab that I move Windoze drives out of /mnt, and mount them under /c and /d. Wherever you mount them, make sure you've created a mount point for them (ie, created the new mount point directory) before editing fstab and remounting or rebooting. Another hint: if you edit /etc/updatedb.conf and remove vfat, from # Which filesystems do we exclude from search? PRUNEFS=nfs,smbfs,ncpfs,proc,devpts,supermount,iso9660,udf,usbdevfs,devfs then 'updatedb' and 'locate' will also keep tract of and find files on your Winblows drives for ya. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay
